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From: "Christian Nistri" <wigsy22@hotmail.com>
To: funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: shaftin' and other difficulties
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If i understood correctly one of the benefits of the two-tier system would 
be that we can use smaller venues as we would only need to arrange 
facilities for 16(?) teams at a time - there wouldn't be much point in 
dividing the tour and then asking everyone to go along to the same venue 
anyway.
Personally I think the idea is great. However i hope that Nationals remains 
the same, as one big knock-out competition, where we get as many players 
from around the country as possible. If this means holding it in the same 
central location every year so be it.
Finally, and this probably isn't relevant for many outside the top 8, from 
what i have understood from the WFDF tournament cycle we have Europeans 
(Nations) in 2003 and Worlds (Nations) in 2004. This gives us a really good 
chance to focus on (geo)club ultimate in this country over the next 2 years 
and maybe try out new formats for the tournies during the year. Players 
needn't worry about playing a big summer tournament with the best club they 
can and so can hopefully help develop talent closer to home.
wigsy


>From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
>To: wayne@fluiddruids.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: shaftin' and other difficulties
>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:22:17 +0000
>
>>>        (4) It means that people coming through don't get to see top
>>> >>flight ultimate. Which is not good as it means people don;t come away
>>> >>from tournaments having had the ability to watch top teams play and
>>> >>learn from them, so the rate of learning slows.
>
>>Yeah, and my propositions above lessen the interaction between the 'top
>>flight' teams and the others.  I'm not so keen on that.
>
>As a simple solution: you could start each league event with a giant
>crossover (top of div 1 plays bottom of div 2, 2nd in div 1 plays
>penultimate in div 2, etc.) This may be tedious for the top teams but it's
>only 1 game. Apart from giving less experience teams/players a chance to
>play more experienced people, it also gives scope for a lower seeded team 
>to
>play a whole event in the top division if they play hard against a better
>team and win their cross over. If the 'better' teams are really better then
>the upset winners of the cross over should get relagated at the end of the
>same tournament, but have a wealth of experience they would otherwise have
>been deprived.
>
>I'm not saying this is what should be, but it's one solution.
>
>Jon Good - BAF, Flatball, MBB
>
>
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