From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 27 11:43:07 2002 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBh6R26818 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:43:06 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBfCn06340; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:41:12 GMT Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2RBcK0K025465 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:38:20 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g2RBcKQn025464 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:38:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g2RBcJ0K025459 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:38:19 GMT Received: from zcsn04.astrazeneca.com (zcsn04.astrazeneca.com [193.128.1.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2RBcIn05824 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:38:18 GMT Received: from zcsn14.ukhx.astrazeneca.net (zcsn14.ukhx.astrazeneca.net [192.168.199.14]) by zcsn04.astrazeneca.com (8.9.3/8.9.3.DEF) with ESMTP id LAA28137; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:38:10 GMT Received: from zcsn24.ukhx.astrazeneca.net (zcsn24.ukhx.astrazeneca.net [156.71.11.98]) by zcsn14.ukhx.astrazeneca.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16372; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:35:50 GMT Received: from ukapzcmsxhub01.ukap.astrazeneca.net (ukapzcmsxhub01.ukap.astrazeneca.net [156.71.158.135]) by zcsn24.ukhx.astrazeneca.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g2RBZok07899; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:35:50 GMT Received: by ukapzcmsxhub01.ukap.astrazeneca.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <HPGPJH29>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:35:49 -0000 Message-ID: <902E4614F838D211B3830001FA7E1A68045D8131@ukapphresmsx02.ukapd.astrazeneca.net> From: "Slack, Richard" <Richard.Slack@astrazeneca.com> To: "'Adam Batchelor'" <adam.batchelor@virgin.net>, Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk> Cc: britdisc <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:35:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk But what are we paying for - that was the main question wasn't it? ...and it wasn't as confrontational as everyone seems to have made it - was it?? I am more than happy to pay the money if there is going to be a bit more active promotion of our very clicky sport but I can't see any yet. I have faith as it's still early doors for you guys but ...what are we paying for? -----Original Message----- From: Adam Batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net] Sent: 27 March 2002 11:17 To: Steve Henderson Cc: britdisc Subject: Re: membership fees and other questions Ummm... AGM - yes that was a forum. Discussed on britdisc... Well it was advertised and a site dedicated to it. Were we elected democratically... yes Do you read your e-mails? Adam Batchelor Director UKUA PS Your sums don't work! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk> To: <administrator@ukultimate.freeserve.co.uk> Cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: membership fees and other questions > To the UK Ultimate Association > > I do not know if these have been asked / answered on Britdisc or anywhere > else, but now that you have collected around twenty thousand pounds in > membership fees, where is this money going? > What benefits am I getting this year as a fully paid-up member compared to > the last eight years? Medical insurance? etc > > Am I correct in that the membership fees are required only for the tour and > the indoor/outdoor nationals - ie seven tournaments. > If there is any medical insurance for members (or any other membership > benefits), is it only for these seven tournaments? > > If the fees are in part to be used for "Promotion of the Game" and to make > events more professional, why was there not a single advert in Bradford for > the National Indoor Championship Finals; no party for the evening; not even > a couple of bits of paper stuck on a wall somewhere to show rosters/results. > > While we are talking professionalism here, is ukultimate.com the official > website for the Association? > If so, why where are there no details about the Tour venues for this year > (...and the indoor finals were shown as being in Leeds) > > > Apologies if I am missing the point here, but if this is an association - > i.e. a body of people with a common purpose - how do the members > needs/wants/requirements get debated/answered/resolved. > You could just say: "Use britdisc" - as that is where everything is debated > and questioned. > But if that is the case, why was something so fundamental as THE FORMATION > OF THE ASSOCIATION and all of the details surrounding this event not > discussed on Britdisc BEFORE the event. > > I am now being told by people who I don't know to pay fees to an association > that I have no visibility into, no control over, and no opportunity to > debate about association goals, or vote for committee members... just to > play a game I have been happily playing for nine years. > What is the deal here? Am I missing something obvious?? > > Thanks. (and minor apologies for the almost-rant with little thought or > structure) > > Steve Henderson > (Bonkers) > (Stonkers) > (Geordie Whore) > > This communication contains confidential information which may also be > privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee named > above. If you are not the intended addressee any form of distribution, > copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error please notify the sender by e-mail or > by telephone 0191 2366661 and delete it from your system and destroy any > copies of it. >