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From: Steve Henderson <HendersonS@Cityphone.co.uk>
To: "'Andy Cotgreave'" <Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk>,
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Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:53:55 -0000
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A couple of more simple (ignorant, to use your term) questions and then I
will shut up:

1.  If these (and other questions) should not be asked on Britdisc, and
instead directed to the Association, when is the next forum-based meeting?

2.  Where are the minutes from the AGM so that myself and others will no
longer be ignorant of the basic facts

3.  Before ANYONE is critical of me for not using the UKultimate to find
information, why not make that information EASILY accessable on the website.


I will shut up now.
Unless of course you call me ignorant again, Andy.
(and they were questions, not opinions)

Steve Henderson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Cotgreave [mailto:Andy.Cotgreave@RCP.co.uk]
Sent: 27 March 2002 11:36
To: 'Steve Henderson'
Subject: RE: membership fees and other questions


> 
> I think my questions are valid,
> If you treat my questions with such contempt I think my 
> concerns are doubly
> valid.
> 

I only replied in the manner i did because the same questions you ask have
been answered OVER and OVER and OVER. Yes, on Britdisc. And yes, at the AGM.
I don't think it's adequate to use Britdisc to voice complaints like this:
they should go straight to UKUltimate people (of which I am NOT one - i have
NO role in UKUltimate). Mailing opinions to Britdisc is not a way to
precipitate change, or challenge something that several individuals have
devoted a vast amount of time to setting up. Ultimate in the UK has tried
many different ways of organising itself. UKUltimate is the logical next
step to creating a self-financed, more structured and organised body. 

It doesn't need people wading into Britdisc with ignorant opinions. And I am
afraid that your mail did display a lack of knowledge of basic facts. Search
the Britdisc archive for discussions of UKUltimate if you don't believe this
is so.

To support your opinions, I do agree that UKUltimate has relied too much on
Britdisc as a way of dispensing information: too many non-Britdisc readers
are left in the dark. And their website does not contain any pages about
what UKUltimate is about - I believe the organisers are aware of this.

Andy
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