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From: "Ben Ravilious" <ben@ravilious.net>
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Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:37:38 +0100
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Jon,

If you ask me, travelling all that way to play with your chosen team is
crazy but thats your choice! If we're talking about doing something for the
good of the sport it would be much more helpful if you brought your
experience (and loyalty) to a local team near you. I appreciate that that is
easier said than done though.

I also despair at the number of university 'old boys' teams which spring up
each year. I can understand wanting to stay in contact with uni friends and
maybe playing a few fun tournaments together for a laugh but there's no way
these teams are going to achieve anything serious or long-term unless you
live near each other. Now that we have contact details for everyone I very
much want to encourage graduates to go find (or start) a local team they can
contribute to. This will be better for them in the long run (you get to play
regularly!) and help strengthen of regionally-based teams.

I believe the geo rules for the Tour simply say that all players must live
within a 75 mile radius of somewhere - correct me if I'm wrong - its never
been an issue for my team!

Enough from me now I think.

Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Good" <funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com>
To: <ben@ravilious.net>; <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
Sent: 09 April 2002 22:30
Subject: Re: Mixed Teams In Major Tournaments


> >Playing in international tournaments is fantastic fun and I'm glad I've
> > >been lucky enough to have done this on a number of occasions myself.
> > >However, as individual players we must recognise that doing this should
> > >be on the basis of long-term commitment to a team. If we have this
> >attitude then we will end up with more committed teams and therefore more
> > >*individual* players getting the chance to attend. Heck if you're not
> > >going to Hawaii go to Brugge/Rotterdam/Rimini/wherever instead - you
will
> > >still have a good time and you don't need UK Ultimate to approve your
> > >roster for this!!!
>
> Ben,
>     I have to agree with you on the player loyalty issue. I've played for
> BAF for about 5 years now, through my university career in Scotland. I
think
> player loyalty is hard as Ultimate comes from a student base, and as such
a
> lot of younger (no offense to 'older' players) players move around the
> country a lot as they go to uni and the struggle to find a job. I may well
> have this wrong but for geo teams aren't you supposed to live nearer them
> than any other team? These two things just don't add  up. If I am right
> (doubtful) on the geo team thing, can't we have some kind of waver for
> players who have been at the club for a decent length of time? Sorry if
I've
> got my facts wrong but I can't check them at the moment.
>
> Le Boeuf
> #44
>
>
>
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