From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 11 13:17:24 2002 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3BCHNd27743 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:17:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3BC8B721031; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:08:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g3BC1NQR000443 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:01:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g3BC1NR0000442 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:01:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g3BC1MQR000432 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:01:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f185.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.185]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3BC1L719440 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:01:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 05:01:15 -0700 Received: from 213.120.90.59 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:01:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.120.90.59] From: "Christian Nistri" <wigsy22@hotmail.com> To: kduk5@sussex.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Disqualifications Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 12:01:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F185U75iMaUfOImd1Ut000038e1@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2002 12:01:15.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[94BEF3A0:01C1E150] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk below is what was written last year after Tour $ re: clapham 2 - what does blacklisted mean? wigsy All, Those of you that were at tour 4 this year will have been aware of complications, those of you that weren't probably heard about them. This is the decisions made after the event following some official complaints from teams. I apologise for the delay in this, missive, but recently I haven't had the time to follow this through until now. 1. The late withdrawal from Clapham. The rules on this are very clear. "Lose 5% of final ranking score PER DAY (including the Monday) to be deducted at the end of the tour." Therefore Clapham 2 (the team that withdrew) withdrawing on the Thursday lose 20% of their final ranking score. Clapham 2 are also blacklisted for the next tour event - the rules are very specific in that a team cannot be blacklisted for National Finals. (Check the Tour rules for what exactly is meant by blacklisting). However it was decided by the committee that to then seed Clapham 2 for Nationals (should they wish to attend) according to the position after penalties had been deducted would skew the seeding unnecessarily, and unreasonably. Therefore Nationals would be seeded based on points score before penalties (which applies to all teams with penalties). That Clapham 2 finished 8th is due to their involvement in less than all four tours, like a number of other teams, which is each teams individual choice. This in itself may skew the rankings, however to artificially alter them would cause further problems. I wish to applaud Clapham, and particularly RT, for the manner in which they conducted themselves over the incident. They have repeatedly apologised and accepted with good grace the penalties imposed, and were aware enough of the rules to be able to tell me what they expected any penalty to be. Whilst having the seedings altered before Nationals with a points penalty might actually benefit the Clapham 2 team, they were able to see the problems that this might cause other teams, and felt that this would benefit the majority of players, and not just their own. Thank you all for your patience in this, and whilst I am aware that this is not to everyone's satisfaction, it should meet with approval from the majority of teams. Chris >From: "roof11uk" <kduk5@sussex.ac.uk> >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: Disqualifications >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:35:01 -0000 > > >I was under the impression that Clapham 2 were Disqualified freom >tour 1 this year as they pulled out of last years final tour at very >late notice. > >It would probably be good if this issue was resolved before saturday. > >Cheers, > >Roof > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.