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From: Roger Thomson <Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>
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Subject: RE: Tour 1 Results
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>But surely, the sooner everyone actually sends in their entry and
>cheque, the sooner we'll know which team will be excluded due to
>capacity, no?

No, because Kev is still obliged to accept entries that arrive on May 3rd,
so nothing is final until then. Anyway, of course you're right that it's
better for entries to get there sooner - I was more reacting to Adam's
implication that entering NOW would increase the chances of teams getting
into the tournament; and was doing my civic duty in pointing out the Tour
rules on distribution of places so that teams understood the implications of
relegation, could plan their seasons accordingly and knew which games it was
important to win at Tour 2. 

There seem to be 2 slight problems with the current set up:
1/ As the deadline for Tour 1 is Friday May 3rd it seems likely that teams
won't find out whether their entries have been accepted until Monday May 6th
at the earliest - only 12 days before the tournament. Is this fair on people
who plan their whole summers around the Tour, have to make travel and
accommodation arrangements, put so much into their sport and look forward to
these events so much? Having earlier deadlines would make some sense as most
teams probably know well in advance which Tours they'd like to enter and can
raise a team for.
2/ Unless the entry deadline for each Tour is before the previous Tour we
won't know how many teams will be relegated and which are the play-off games
that determine it. We're depriving the teams this is relevant to of really
dramatic games that have a real impact on their seasons and condemning them
to a several week wait while they see how many of the teams on the waiting
list want to enter the next Tour. Given the increasingly competitive nature
of UKU Tours right the way through the seedings wouldn't they all rather
know what was at stake when they play those important play-off
games?...(comments from those who it might concern would help....JB7, Mohawk
Mwinci Magic, Rats of Nimh, Trigger Happy - was there a relegation feel
about your last games? If not, would you rather have known that these games
would determine whether you can get into Tour 2?).

Anyway, thought they were worth mentioning as we debate the sense and
practicalities of moving to a more divisional approach. Was anything worth
mentioning decided or discussed at the UKU meeting?

Cheers, sorry to bore you all so early in the day,
RT
cu#1

PS - Yes it was 15-12 Clapham1 vs Clapham2. 
PPS - Yes the Sharks really gave Clapham2 a good game and have really
improved over the winter. We thought they did so well only because Milky was
confined to the sideline injured, so I wouldn't expect them to do so well in
Tour 2 if he's better. 10th place maybe?
PPPS - Remember it's a relatively open practice on Clapham Common tonight @
6.30 pm or so - so come down if you want to play a competitive game and are
a relatively experienced and/or talented player in London. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 17 April 2002 21:13
To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Tour 1 Results


Wed, 17 Apr 2002, by Roger Thomson <mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com>;
 Subject: Tour 1 Results
>    >There are still places at Tour 2 so get your entry in NOW!!!!!!
>     
>    Surely there's no hurry?

But surely, the sooner everyone actually sends in their entry and
cheque, the sooner we'll know which team will be excluded due to
capacity, no?

And the less likely anyone will be to fall foul of a postal service
error. (Imagine the hullaballoo if cheques went missing in the post only
two days before the deadline - it'd be too late to send another and the
team may not be permitted to enter!)

It might even be possible that we could be emailed captains meeting
notes and see a finalised schedule several days before the tournament!?

Wayne
Fluid Druids
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