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From: Nicole Roberts <maaafy_bird@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Crossovers. 
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I agree, Shocker would certainly have liked another
bash at getting top eight  after having an excellent
game against excess bee but then forgetting how to
play ultimate when we played maiden bungle. The
problem is how to cross over when you have 20 teams,
unless top 4 get a bye as in open tour 1, so cross
over is 5-12, 13-20. The games, however, at mixed tour
1 were pretty short anyway, and we still finished our
last game at 7.30(got to love those cold showers), so
I guess there just wasn't any scheduling time... The
good thing is that the seedings should be sorted out
for next tour, so that the pools are fairer (apart
from the pool that gets chevvy out for revenge ;))

nicole
shocker
--- Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> The schedule for the weekend didn't include a
> crossover
> after the first pool.  There is always a pressure
> between
> time in the schedule on one hand and the need to
> make sure
> overly strong or weak pools don't dominate the final
> standings.  I personal think there should be a cross
> over in
> the Tours, but I would be interested to get a feel
> from
> Britdisc.
> 
> Basically, I think that the scheduals should always
> consider 
> a cross over after the first pool when scheduals are
> drawn 
> up.  This means that overly weak or strong pools
> don't end 
> up placing their teams too high or too low in the
> second 
> day.  This is partically important on the first
> event in a 
> new season as positions rarely go to seeding.  
> 
> Hokey from our pool, the scores on the doors as it
> were...
> 2 seed > 1.  Ea... Grazed & Confused - WINNERS
> 8 seed > 3.  Cyrille
> 13 seed > 11. Yorkie Bar Kids
> 11 seed > 12. Zoo
> 18 seed > 18. Martha and the Mootones
> 
> Felt that we had a partically tough pool (though
> would
> certainly accept that the standard of the overall
> event was
> very high (with respect to the previous year)). 
> having
> worked very hard in our games with ybk and zoo we
> were
> dumped into the bottom 4.  Having a crossover
> ensures that
> there are teams in the next 8 who shouldn't be in
> the bottom
> 8 and vis versa.  I'm not saying that we would have
> necessarily won that cross over but that is what it
> is there
> for.  I would have felt stronger about putting this
> case if 
> we had rumbled red in the bottom 4 as well, but it
> wasn't to 
> be. 
> 
> End of the day - t'was a small thing set against a
> fantastic 
> tournament.  I really enjoyed it.  
> 
> What do people think about, time pressures/dangers
> of 'one
> game wonders' vs equaty between pools?
> 
> cheers
> ben
> martha and the mootones
> 


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