From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 23 11:32:41 2002 Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4NAWdI05362 for <suaaz@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:32:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@agave [137.205.192.52]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g4NAK0t06060; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:20:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g4NAEhQR023938 for <britdisc-outgoing@agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0/Submit) id g4NAEhml023937 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@sorrel [137.205.192.54]) by agave.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g4NAEgQR023932 for <britdisc-real@majordomo.csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by sorrel.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g4NAEgjV001519 for <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk>; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk (tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.206]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g4NAEg419686; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.11.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id g4NAEgs19214; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 11:14:42 +0100 (BST) From: Ben Booth <booth@atm.ox.ac.uk> To: Simon Statham <Simon_Statham@birmingham.gov.uk> cc: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Liability insurance for ultimate In-Reply-To: <80256BC2.0029FAA4.00@birmingham.gov.uk> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0205231102590.19171-100000@tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I posted a message to britdisc about an hour ago and it hasn't shown up so assuming it is lost. Appologies if you eventually get both. The ground we are trying to use is city council recreation grounds. Having spoken to their sports officer this morning I have a clearer idea of the situations. These grounds are also used by football and Cricket players through the year. Apparently as part of their affiliation with fifa or the cc of england and wales, they get indemnity insurence for claims against the grounds owners that they play on. The council here are not used to dealing this sports which don't provide the cover and I've got them runnign around at the moment seeing if they can do anything. This seems to be a standard practice for the council. This maybe just oxford but the fact that other sports governing bodies provide liability insurance for there sports suggests that it is more widspread. I would be suprised if other teams haven't encountered this problem with other council grounds. Is this something that the UKU should be thinking about obtaining? On an individual event basis the fees are quite large (costs approx 80 pounds as far as I can gather for a single event for upto 250 people). However on a large scale - to cover all events for all clubs this cost would be alot smaller. Ben [we limited in oxford in ground space - most playing fields are own by college feifdoms who are reluctant to allow external sporting events on their green surfaces (even students aren't allowed to walk on the grass)] On Thu, 23 May 2002, Simon Statham wrote: > Wayne's right, venues which hire themselves out should already be insured. I > used to work for a leisure Company, we always had to factor insurance costs into > out tender bids, then passed this cost on to our customers through the hire > charge. If they continue to press you for this I'd go elsewhere as they are > trying to diddle you and the insurance could be quite expensive. > > > > > Wayne Retter <druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk> on 22/05/2002 19:46:01 > > Please respond to Wayne Retter <wayne@fluiddruids.com> > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > cc: (bcc: Simon Statham/Transportation/BCC) > > > Subject: Re: Liability insurance for ultimate > > > > Ben, > > I've never encountered your situation. > > Do you means potential damage to the venue? > > Layout Dreams and/or Fluid Druids (my experiences as TD) have never been > required to have any insurance for the potential for damage to the > site(s) they've used. > > I'd have figured that grounds available to hire for sports would be > covered for this sort of thing already, and build the costs into their > hire charges? > > Someone official at UKU may know more...? > > Wayne Retter > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > mobile: 07970-903420 > w.retter@bigfoot.com > office: 01737-273655 > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. 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