From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 3 16:34:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08866 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:30:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08844 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:30:44 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06466 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:30:40 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:28:21 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:30:13 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED30D@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'David Grayson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Regional Rosters Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:30:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I accept your point, and thinking along those lines am prepared to adapt the rules; 1. As before you cannot change CLUBS between regionals and Nationals. If you play for a club at regionals, you must play for the same club at Nationals. Should you not play at regionals you may pick-up with any club at Nationals. Should you play at regionals you do not have to play at Nationals. 2. If a club enters more than one team to regionals then players may move between teams between regionals and nationals (note: players may not switch between games at either tournament - you may only play for one team at each tournament). HOWEVER, should a player move from Team B to Team A, then Team B must forfeit their slot at Nationals if they qualify. This allows you to play experienced players on a weaker team for regionals, and then move them up to your first team for Nationals. If your second team qualifies as well then the experienced player must either stay with the second team, or the second team forfeits their place at Nationals. This also allows you to move players up due to injuries. This rule however will prevent teams from attempting to qualify multiple teams at Nationals, and then organising one good team leaving their weaker second team to occupy spots that should be available to more deserving teams. Note this rule is the same as the rule governing clubs activities between the tour and National Outdoors. This rule will be confirmed at the captains meeting at each of the regional events. Chris -----Original Message----- From: David Grayson [SMTP:david@mcg.gla.ac.uk] Sent: 3 March 1999 14:32 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Regional Rosters Just to agree with Mark. Last year at least three teams at nationals were seriously affected by not being able to promote B team players to cover injuries etc. I believe this devalued the quality of nationals as clubs playerd ironman instead of having a B team player as a sub. In most sport you can refuel at a pit stop. Should 2 teams from one club qualify then they can be treated as separate and not permit switching between teams. The other (slightly more radical) alternative would be to consider Nationals as a competition between the top 24 clubs in GB. Therefore don't allow second teams to qualify. Seems to me this takes away a lot of the incentive for certain second teams to play hard at regionals however so I wouldn't be in favour of it. Having said all that - rules were set a few weeks ago and regionals teams will have been picked on the basis of those rules so perhaps we should be discussing a change for next year? Dave. Mud Culture. > From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Regional Rosters > Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:02:39 -0000 > This was originally going just to you Chris, but as your server keeps > returning my messages it looks like fate wanted this as an open > discussion..... > > We all understand - I think - why teams should be required to roster their > regional entries. I won't bore you by repeating the arguments. I agree > with them. But there are situations where the rules - designed to promote > and protect a level playing field for all teams - disadvantage some teams - > particularly students. Strange Blue (I hope you don't mind me speaking > about this Dora) have worked really hard to put a second team together for > the regionals. It is a specifically student-related issue that this second > team (or third, or fourth) will consist of freshers, beginners etc who do > not get as many opportunities to compete. In fielding multiple teams clubs > may be stretching their human resources to the point where, if a first team > player is injured, there is no one left to replace them. So what should > they do? Only take one team, to guarantee replacements if needed, or take > the second team, knowing that if the firsts qualify but suffer injury they > may have to give up their space at the nationals? > > There is no easy solution. As you have pointed out, Chris, by allowing > players to switch teams you run the risk of large clubs attempting to flood > the Nationals. But I do think we should think about this seriously. One > suggestion - by no means fool-proof - is to allow teams a designated number > of nominated reserves - one or two players who must be with that club, who > are allowed to play in the regionals with one team but then take up their > reserve place in the Nationals if required. This will probably only help > student clubs anyway - there are very few non student clubs who put in > multiple teams - and by limiting the number of reserves you largely prevent > a team from amassing hundreds of pick-ups for the finals. > > I'm always far too enthusiastic, and I'm sure a hundred people will tell me > why this can't work. But discuss it quickly and sensibly and see if we > can't reach some sort of solution for teams like Strange Blue - it is in our > sport's best interests to help, rather than discourage, teams after all. > > Thanks for reading this far..... > > > > Mark > Whiplash > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 3 18:01:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA28555 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:00:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28544 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:00:16 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA13531 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:00:15 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0002127F; Wed, 3 Mar 99 17:58:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:58:23 +0000 Message-ID: <0002127F.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re[2]: Regional Rosters To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "HUGHES; Chris" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Maybe I'm looking at this too closely? Author: "HUGHES; Chris" Date: 03/03/99 16:30 >I accept your point, and thinking along those lines am prepared to adapt the >rules; >1. As before you cannot change CLUBS between regionals and Nationals. > If you play for a club at regionals, you must play for the same club at >Nationals. Should you not play at regionals you may pick-up with any club >at Nationals. Should you play at regionals you do not have to play at >Nationals. By this rule, 'non-regular' teams such as (for example) Mr Men, Look at Me! and Wyld Stallions must, by definition, a) be a CLUB b) be a 'second team' of another clubs c) none of the above, in which case they could qualify, elect not to play at Nationals, and pick up for other CLUBS (Reminds me slightly of a similar Outdoor scenario...! and of an Indoor query involving the Manchester teams last year...) >2. If a club enters more than one team to regionals then players may >move between teams between regionals and nationals (note: players may not >switch between games at either tournament - you may only play for one team >at each tournament). HOWEVER, should a player move from Team B to Team A, >then Team B must forfeit their slot at Nationals if they qualify. >This allows you to play experienced players on a weaker team for regionals, >and then move them up to your first team for Nationals. >If your second team qualifies as well then the experienced player must >either stay with the second team, or the second team forfeits their place >at Nationals. This also allows you to move players up due to injuries. It is assumed OBVIOUS that the second team CAN NOT attend 'cos it's supplementing the first team? They are not allowed to replace these 'promoted' players with others from their player base...? These 'new' players could, however, go straight into the first team as the 'injury subs'. So how do you stop any club from (for example) entering two "good" Iron Man teams to Regionals (maybe different Regions!), qualifying for Nationals - maybe not top of the region, but in a position to win - and then amalgamating those two teams into a "superteam" that will win the Nationals event (rather than both finishing top 6)? Off the top of my head I can think of three clubs that _could_ do that... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 3 18:14:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA01268 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:13:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01257 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:13:15 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14458 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:13:14 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 18:10:53 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:12:46 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED30F@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "HUGHES; Chris" Subject: RE: Re[2]: Regional Rosters Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 18:12:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1. If they enter regionals under their own name, then for the purpose of this tournament, yes, they are considered a club. 2. If you do not play at regionals then yes you can play for any indoor team at Nationals as you have not been 'cup-tied' 3. Yes you can supplement your first team with 'new' players who have not played for either team in regionals, thereby leaving your 2nd team intact, but once you move a player from your second team to the first team one of these two teams (presumably the 2nd team) cannot play at Nationals irrelevant of qualification. 4. You don't stop two teams from the same club amalgamating into one super team since they could do this anyway. 5. I make the assumption (possibly rashly) that as in all areas of ultimate that Spirit will prevail. Is that enough explanation for everyone or do people want pictures as well? Chris DoC -----Original Message----- From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk [SMTP:Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk] Sent: 3 March 1999 17:58 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; HUGHES; Chris Subject: Re[2]: Regional Rosters Maybe I'm looking at this too closely? Author: "HUGHES; Chris" Date: 03/03/99 16:30 >I accept your point, and thinking along those lines am prepared to adapt the >rules; >1. As before you cannot change CLUBS between regionals and Nationals. > If you play for a club at regionals, you must play for the same club at >Nationals. Should you not play at regionals you may pick-up with any club >at Nationals. Should you play at regionals you do not have to play at >Nationals. By this rule, 'non-regular' teams such as (for example) Mr Men, Look at Me! and Wyld Stallions must, by definition, a) be a CLUB b) be a 'second team' of another clubs c) none of the above, in which case they could qualify, elect not to play at Nationals, and pick up for other CLUBS (Reminds me slightly of a similar Outdoor scenario...! and of an Indoor query involving the Manchester teams last year...) >2. If a club enters more than one team to regionals then players may >move between teams between regionals and nationals (note: players may not >switch between games at either tournament - you may only play for one team >at each tournament). HOWEVER, should a player move from Team B to Team A, >then Team B must forfeit their slot at Nationals if they qualify. >This allows you to play experienced players on a weaker team for regionals, >and then move them up to your first team for Nationals. >If your second team qualifies as well then the experienced player must >either stay with the second team, or the second team forfeits their place >at Nationals. This also allows you to move players up due to injuries. It is assumed OBVIOUS that the second team CAN NOT attend 'cos it's supplementing the first team? They are not allowed to replace these 'promoted' players with others from their player base...? These 'new' players could, however, go straight into the first team as the 'injury subs'. So how do you stop any club from (for example) entering two "good" Iron Man teams to Regionals (maybe different Regions!), qualifying for Nationals - maybe not top of the region, but in a position to win - and then amalgamating those two teams into a "superteam" that will win the Nationals event (rather than both finishing top 6)? Off the top of my head I can think of three clubs that _could_ do that... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 3 19:26:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA13359 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:25:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA13353 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:25:36 GMT Received: from brockman.tinet.ie (brockman.tinet.ie [159.134.237.30]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02408 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:25:35 GMT Received: from p161.as1.letterkenny1.tinet.ie ([159.134.252.161] helo=mail1.tinet.ie) by brockman.tinet.ie with smtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 10IHGu-0001aR-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:25:33 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.5b1 (45) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 20:35:13 -0500 Subject: complaint From: Randal Faulkner To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk just to let everyone know vanessa white emailed a complaint saying wayne retter was wrong to write about people with good memories because she says old people do not have good memories.come on everybody who got this send me an email till I really see if there is 1000 people on this email stuff.I have bet david mackay and mark jefferson 100 punds that there isnt.so come on send loads of emails From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 4 00:48:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA01428 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:46:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01420 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:46:25 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25996 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:46:25 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-052.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.52]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA00799; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:43:59 GMT Message-ID: <015e01be65d8$7d88a100$34a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "David Grayson" , "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: starting uni teams & student mailing list Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:58:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dave, Your story is a lesson for us all! I took 3 long years to pursuade Leicester that we were worth it. As for subsidsing new teams, ALL new teams (student or otherwise) can have provisional (free) membership in their first year. At present we only allow them to attend three events. Tell me about any changes which you think might encourage new teams (free student membership - yeah right!) Nice work - can I keep your story for publication in the future? Ben BUF Secretary -----Original Message----- From: David Grayson To: student-ultimate@egroups.com Cc: P.P.Guest ; Ben Ravilious Date: 03 March 1999 14:13 Subject: starting uni teams To share some information on how we managed to start a Uni team in Glasgow - apologies for length. Our Uni had the same system as that described by Paul in Manchester. That is - there must be 15 members for 2 years before there was any support given by the AU. Full accounts, membership lists etc. were also provided. We got around this by the following method. 1. Our Uni has a system where an individual must join the AU - after that they can join as many clubs as they like. We set our club membership fee at zero pounds and took the names and membership numbers of 15 people (all swimmers as it happens) and they agreed to join our club to give us the required number of members. 2. We trained on public parks and invited members of the public to play with us. As we did not use Uni facilities and received no support we saw no reason to insist on members to join the AU. At this point we had a distinction between members and players. As we were not breaking any rules we could be quite open about it. 3. We went to the Sports and Recreation Service in the University - who run the facilities and explained the situation to them. We said: "If you give us some hall time, we will run a free session for anyone in the Uni to come and play Ultimate" We guarantee to get 15-20 people each week and if we fall short we will give up our time. The sports service were more than happy to see good use of hall time and the promotion of a new sport. 4. We had been to the student newspaper and got an article in that promoted the sport and helped recruit players. They were also extremely excited about the chance of an anti-AU story (which of course when interviewed we put across diplomatically). 5. When we went back to the AU we explained what we had done and claimed that this counted as our first year. We had a constitution etc. and they accepted that argument. We also got into a long discussion about the problems of having a sport for all attitude while still having the 2 year rule. They then came back with an idea of "starter clubs" which meant that after one year we would be entitled to 4 minibuses a year and one-third of one percent of the total AU budget. There would be no more than three starter clubs in any one year and if they proved themselves then they would get full affiliation. That year 3 starter clubs were set up (Ultimate, Gaelic Football and Gymnastics). What is the take home message? Play by the rules, be honest about what you are doing, and win the arguments but don't be scared to bend the rules. We managed to show our AU that there was a demand for the sport, we could run it, but that we would not be prepared to make our players join the AU unless they supported us. "Sport for all" always gets AU peoples backs up - keep making them say they are interested in sport for all. Also keep other organisations onside - we had the newspaper and the sports service supporting us before our AU did. Finally always make them think they came up with something. Our AU president was delighted to come up with the idea of starter clubs and take the credit for the recent influx of new sports (which they do deserve credit for). Every Uni is different but don't expect money straight off. You will have to pay for tournaments yourself. What is the present situation with the BUF regarding new student teams? Perhaps there could be some sort of a starter club incentive in the BUF for registering new Uni teams (waive subs, 50% off entry fees to student indoor regionals?). Just an idea. Seems to me that at the moment the effort of starting a Uni team will far outweigh the initial benefits if a player already has a Uni team to play for. Much as the experience was fun and rewarding I'm not sure I would have done it if I could have gone and played elsewhere. Hope this is of some use to anyone presently struggling with establishment, Dave. Far Flung - Glasgow Uni. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 4 00:51:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA01894 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:50:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01885 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:50:29 GMT From: Chris_Dunckley@rechem.co.uk Received: from relay.mail.pipex.net (relay.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.38] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA04182 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:50:29 GMT Received: (qmail 16123 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1999 00:50:25 -0000 Received: from mailhost.rechem.co.uk (HELO rechemfawley.rechem.co.uk) (194.128.51.11) by relay.mail.pipex.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 1999 00:50:25 -0000 Received: by rechemfawley.rechem.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 8025672A.00030E3C ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:33:22 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: RECHEM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <8025672A.000258DA.00@rechemfawley.rechem.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:29:02 +0000 Subject: Request for info for presentation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Has anyone got any good material for a five minute presentation on Ultimate as I've got to do one towards the end of the month? No videos I'm afraid the only possible technology I have is an overhead projector. Cheers Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 4 01:03:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA04329 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:02:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA04319 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:02:54 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA04907 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:02:53 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-020.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.20]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA01034 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:00:35 GMT Message-ID: <019201be65da$cf2d9720$34a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Randal Falkner Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:58:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Steps are being taken to remove this gentleman from Britdisc. In the meantime I suggest you all comply with his request for correspondence (in triplicate?!) ;-) Ben BUF Secretary -----Original Message----- From: Randal Faulkner To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 03 March 1999 19:42 Subject: complaint >just to let everyone know vanessa white emailed a complaint saying wayne >retter was wrong to write about people with good memories because she says >old people do not have good memories.come on everybody who got this send me >an email till I really see if there is 1000 people on this email stuff.I >have bet david mackay and mark jefferson 100 punds that there isnt.so come >on send loads of emails From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 4 12:25:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04656 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:23:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04649 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:23:41 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07664 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:23:41 GMT Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10IXA7-0000TM-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:23:36 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:22:00 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline Fonseka Subject: To all London teams MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A crazy idea for anyone who wonders why London teams don't see as much of each other as logic dictates they should. We are a very new team playing out of the University of London, Under Cover Lovers, would like to invite you guys to give a show of interest in a friendly match up, possibly in a round robin arrangement, on a Saturday in Regent's Park, specifically on the 20th of March. We think it would be a great way to introduce all the London teams to each other. It might also be a good way to see how well attended a London Ultimate Tourney would be, or at least to start down the road of a regular play day for all the London teams to play each other. Could anyone who is interested please drop me an email, and based on the response I get during the first week we'll decide whether to go through with it. Sincerely, Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 4 13:07:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17093 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:06:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17080 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:06:05 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA11088 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:06:04 GMT Received: from 97315250 by brookes.ac.uk (8.8.7/) id NAA17186; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:06:02 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:06:02 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199903041306.NAA17186@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Women's outdoor practice Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, The next women's general outdoor practice will be on Saturday, 13th March, Clapham Common, London at 1pm. I realise that this clashes with one of the indoor regionals but it's hard to find a free weekend. The next women's tournament is April 24/25 - Spring into Action outdoor tournament, Warwick University. Please contact Sue Underwood 0121 778 2018 for further information. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 4 19:54:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA25881 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:53:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25865 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:53:11 GMT Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA10663 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:53:10 GMT Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10IeBA-0004N0-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:53:08 +0000 Message-ID: <5SjvpBAgRu32Ewf6@couplehood.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:52:00 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline Fonseka Subject: London 20th March MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks for everyone who has emailed me with positive responses. If this keeps up it looks like the day should turn our great. For all of the people who have posted to remind that the indoor nationals are also on the 20th of March, let me just clarify: The day is meant to be a friendly get together for London teams (or those in the vicinity - thanks Mohawks, see you there) It is not meant to compete with the nationals for attention. In any case, while there may be many teams who are committed to the nationals, there should be an equal number of teams or players without teams that are not. For those players I look forward to meeting you on the 20th of March, I will post up the details (time, format, 'apres frisbee') as soon as I get a definite on numbers of people and teams. FYI it looks like Imperial College, QMW, King's College, UCL and Mohawks have expressed firm interest. I have also had several emails from players without teams who can either pick up with teams that are short, or form an ersatz pickup team on the day. Albatross and First Touch haven't replied yet but I hope they will soon. Also, an open plea. If anyone who plans on coming can help out with cones, measuring tape (to mark out the pitch according to spec) and some new discs to sell that will be great. It seems like I have tapped a rich vein here with a lot of isolated London teams who want to play together! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 00:38:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA14483 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:37:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA14456 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:36:59 GMT Received: from mailc.surrey.ac.uk (mailc.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.100.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA12810 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:36:58 GMT Received: from default (actually host annex1-8.surrey.ac.uk) by mailc.surrey.ac.uk with SMTP-external (PP); Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:36:51 +0000 Reply-To: cs81bm From: Ben McCormack To: Britdisc Subject: Game Wanted Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:40:45 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be66a0$ce700180$1285e383@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello All I have now started an Ultimate team at The University of Surrey, based in Guildford. We have been playing now for about 5 weeks and some people wanting to play a game. Does anyone have beginners team or a team that does not mind playing beginners to play us in the next 3 weeks one Sunday? We have the use of a Hall form 12:00 to 14:00 or we could use the playing fields. Cheers Ben McCormack University of Surrey Ultimate Frisbee Club Ext 4194 Mob 07971 480526 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 10:36:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA04974 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:35:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04963 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:35:13 GMT From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16746 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:35:12 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2); Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:34:58 +0000 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02578; Fri, 5 Mar 99 10:34:55 GMT Message-Id: <9903051034.AA02578@damson.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:34:51 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Terrace Army X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone out there have any contact details for the new Terrace Army team in Bedford, practice times etc Peter Connor Mad Kows Milton Keynes From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 12:28:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06991 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:26:34 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06976 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:26:30 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:27:28 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Student List Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [Posted on behalf of Si Weeks, since britdisc kept BOUNCEing it! Sam.] At the weekend, there was a meeting to discuss student ultimate. It was decided it was necessary to set up a group distribution list such that we could have a large subscription from student teams without them having to get bored with disc golf announcements or listening to Colin's crap. So here are the details. Will student teams get as many people in their club to join as possible (particularly the committee), so that we have a good representation of students. Anyone else who is interested in student issues are more than welcome to join. To join send a blank message to: student-ultimate-JOIN@egroups.com [NB Please replace the word 'JOIN' in the above address with 'sub scribe' but without a space!] To send an email to the group, send it to: student-ultimate@egroups.com Cheers, Si Weeks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 14:14:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA00574 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:11:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA00547 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:11:39 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA24537 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:11:38 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 05 Mar 1999 13:47:42 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:49:34 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED320@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Inddor Regionals Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:49:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As many of you are aware the first indoor regional is taking place this weekend in Sheffield, with three more happening the weekend after in Glasgow, Milton Keynes and Plymouth. The Nationals is taking place on the weekend of 20 & 21 of March in Cheltenham. The qualifying slots for each region is as follows Scotland - 4 teams North - 6 teams Midlands - 9 teams South - 5 teams This was allocated on the relative size of each of the tournaments, and the relative strength of each event. The slots are obviously allocated to the highest place teams, if a team does not want it's slot then it will be passed down that region until it is filled. NOTE: teams will have to make that decision on the Sunday of regionals, and you will be expected to pay the Regional TD your entry fee into Nationals. If a region can't use their full allocation of slots then the first excess slot will go to the Northern Region. All teams will need to complete a Roster at regionals, and all teams should clarify the rules about eligibility of players, and moving teams within a club. If you are in doubt speak to me first - don't get your team disqualified later! Good luck all - and enjoy yourself. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 16:37:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08911 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:34:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08890 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:34:24 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07433 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:34:23 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.249] (helo=pebley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10IxYM-0003pT-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:34:22 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 5 Mar 99 16:34:21 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 5 Mar 99 16:16:47 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:16:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Seeding X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <39664367508@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chewy wrote: > At the end of the tournament i forgot to say thanks to Si Weeks who > actually wrote the schedule for the weekend ( sorry Si ). But Thanks. No problem at all. However it appears not everyone shared your opinion. This year we opted for two pools of eight. Dave Farmyard, Chewy and I made this decision based on the fact that a student teams strengths change a lot over the course of a year (e.g. Mohawks last year's outdoor champions failed to even qualify for the indoors this year). Therefore we opted for the largest pools possible in order to neglect the effect of the seeding. This matched Skunks (winners of the South-east qualifier) up with Far Flung (no.6 in the Northern qualifier - they only got in 'cos Flying Sorcerers dropped out) first game Saturday morning. Skunks lost this game and then also lost to Bears (the eventual winners) and Jedi later in the group stages. On collecting the plate in the presentation, Skunks commented that "This isn't the trophy we came to win, the only thing that has beaten us all weekend is the seeding." Whilst I feel that they were a little unfortunate to be the team that missed out and end up in the bottom eight as a result of a two way tie for fourth place, I do not think they can blame this on the seeding. They had every opportunity to qualify. If they were the best team in the tournament why did they lose three games? Maybe putting this email out was unnecessary. It's taken me all week, to decide whether I should do it. But having heard another team that were not at Nationals being given exactly the same explanation by Skunks for their poor performance, I decided it was time to set the record straight. That's about it. I look forward to seeing Skunks at the outdoors, Please let me know Skunks, if you would you like a bye straight to the final just to make sure you don't lose to one of the 'lesser' northern teams again. Later, Si Weeks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 5 17:59:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26171 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:57:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26165 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:57:54 GMT From: ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA20686 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:57:53 GMT Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id RAA16852; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:54:05 GMT Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016662; Fri, 5 Mar 99 17:53:11 GMT Received: from intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F84003ZXV45LQ@olive.uk.pw.com> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:55:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: by intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8025672B.0062732C ; Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:55:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:36:26 +0000 Subject: RE: Re[2]: Regional Rosters To: "HUGHES, Chris _" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <8025672B.0061A0E4.00@intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L GB@C&L INT@INTL Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris these discussions have taken place before. You made a statement that was exactly the position from previous years earlier this week. At this stage (as agreed by David Grayson) teams had been picked knowing that situation We should not be changing the rules ad hoc because it might suit a particular part of the playing community if they all write in at one time this close to a tournament. I am aware of many times in the past when non student teams have entered 2 or more teams in Regionals/Nationals and could/would have altered their approach with this rather sudden change. I re-iterate, changes of this nature should not just happen particularly after a definte statement has been made. The rules are there for a reason (usually a good one) and 1 days thought is not generally enough to work through all the considerations necessary. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 6 12:38:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22375 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:36:54 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22368 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:36:52 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29354 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:36:52 GMT Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10JGK1-0005aC-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:36:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 12:35:31 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline Fonseka Subject: London 20th March MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I appear to started somewhat of a landslide with my little suggestion of a London Teams Friendly on March the 20th. The various threads I heave been receiving all point to a widespread desire to have a 'London scene'. So, just to spark up some more interest I am posting the main ideas I have noted in the correspondence I have received: 1. That the London Summer Ultimate League is something that should continue, albeit on a more self-organized basis. Too much work was involved getting teams to arrive on time and with the 'right' players for one person to reasonably be able to do it. The suggestion is that there really ought to be at least two regular weekend games in London where tems can turn up and play each other, that these locations should be fairly central (and this appears to refer to Regent's Park, Hyde Park, Kensington, Mile End, and Clapham Common) and that there should be a basic little web site somewhere where results can be posted. Other points noted were that the games should be at night (not good in my opinion) so that they will not clash with fixtures that teams may have out of town, and that they should be run for a fairly sort period to allow for students to play before they break for hols or cram for exams. The latter point leads me to the next suggestion … 2. That there ought to be a mini League-style tourney for London Uni teams, only. Not wanting to be snobbish I believe its reasonable to allow any team in the London, Greater London or anywhere within reasonable travelling distance (i.e. Reading / Cambridge / etc) to join the fun. No details have been fleshed out but I forsee potential for this being a hit sometime during the first month of the summer terms. On the point of student study commitments, I don't think there is going to be that much of a problem. Firstly, I advocate short, time capped games to run for just one day. Secondly, being a very local (London & immediate vicitnity) tournament the usual problems about travelling time and access shouldn't deter students from turning up just one day a week, unless they have been really lazy and not looked at a book since January, in which case they are probably going to fail anyway so what's the diff? Thirdly, This kind of format will be conducive to beginners getting Ulty fever by exposure to a tournament vibe, something which has always proven a big catalyst to selling the game. The shorter games and the easy travel should mak it a soft-entry option for people just picking the game up, and the exposure to a wide range of team standards and styles ought to be exciting as well. The final point I want to make here is that having a London tourney make a lot of sense as far as publicising the game goes. Imagine a Ross-on- Wye happening in the middle of 6 million people in London, as opposed to some playing fields a half hour away from the passing public. Naturally I am thinking of very central venues like Regent'' Park or Hyde / Kensington. The urban press offices and newspapers will find it much easier to get off their arses to cover something so local, and 'ooo, weird and strange', neh? 3. There has also been a strong sentiment that these friendlies should be a regular event. By that I am not certain if they are talking weekly, fortnightly, monthly or what. Still, there are some evident benefits of having a weekly thing where, say, four or five London Ulty teams match up and have a good competitive session against each other. I don't think that this last suggestion need be very formal with rankings, records etc. The team captains themselves should be able to call each other up and arrange some kind of phone chain to get everyone on pitch on time. The main advantage in skills terms of this would be to allow teams to develop an esprit de corps and an individual playing style by regularly playing 'other' teams as opposed to only playing within their own club / circle. This ought to mean (in an ideal world) a significant rise in standards as players learn to fall into their own groove and start to specialise in certain positions. It should increase intra-team communication and intuition so that X knows what Y will do, having seen him or her do it 7 times out of ten in a weekly match. And everything I havee said viz student beginners ought to apply with equal emphasis for this situation. Right, that is my post for now. Following on from this I will send an update of the responses I have had from various teams about the 20th of March. Everyone please RSVP ASAP. That is if you plan on coming. Cheers all, Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers -- Adeline Fonseka From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 7 16:22:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA15090 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:21:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15046 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:21:27 GMT Received: from euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk (euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.48.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15275 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:21:27 GMT Received: from ccnt012f.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk ([138.250.24.12]) by euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10JgIv-000816-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:21:25 +0000 From: jerome Hardouin Reply-To: J.R.Hardouin.1998@cranfield.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: I would like to go to brugge! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:21:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everybody! I'm a little poor student in cranfield (if you know the place you know it's true!) and I would like to play in the brugge outdoor tournament. The only problem is that I've no team so I ask desperately you guys to see if somebody has a spot left in his team. I've played seriously ultimate for 6 months and I've played in 7 tournament so far, including the student regionals and nationals indoors with "alien nation" (my university team). If you would like some more information please do not hesitate to get in touch with Aaron Altman, my coach. Thanks for your time and I apologise for any surplus mail. Jerome Hardouin (a french in cranfield). ---------------------- jerome Hardouin Cranfield University J.R.Hardouin.1998@Cranfield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 07:48:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA10548 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:47:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10542 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:47:04 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10775 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA21609 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199903080747.HAA21609@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 13th March 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Essex University, Colchester [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Indoor Regionals (2 days) [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 20th March 1999 Indoor Nationals (2 days) [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 27th March 1999 BDGA Golf: Bristol Spring Fling (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Red Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Leicester Ultimate Club (Red) Address PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ Email red@ultimateweb.co.uk Phone 0116 2559638 (Ben Ravilious) Saturday 10th April 1999 BDGA Golf: Quarry Park Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Tour I (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th April 1999 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Bennison Email pbennison@sepro.ie Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 Dawn till dusk...: THE ULTIMATE DAY (1 day) @ University of Bradford [Outdoor Ultimate] Cost: A minimal fee will be requested from each team (£20) - ALL the money collected will go to Marie Curie Cancer Care Charity (reg. no.207994). Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 09:19:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19972 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:18:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19961 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:18:56 GMT Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17093 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:18:52 GMT Message-Id: <199903080918.JAA17093@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:11:33 -0000 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: Ben Ravilious Cc: britdisc Subject: Publicity Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:18:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This week I received some publicity from the local newspaper (the Grantham Journal) about putting Ultimate on the curriculum of our HND in Sports Science. The Daily Star have just picked this up, and in true Derek Robins style put the article between a model's legs. The article: Spin Docs A college is offering a course in how to throw a frisbee. Grantham College, Lincs, is set to produce Britains first qualified coaches in the sport. Students will spend two hours a week learning the game. Frisbee Ultimate is played on a 110 yrd pitch and spread from a US High School in 1968 to most beaches around the world. Sports science lecturer Paul Unwin said "its attractive to people turned off by traditional sports because there is no contact and no aggression." I dont know what to say?! PU From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 10:23:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02802 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:22:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02790 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:22:00 GMT Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25712 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:21:59 GMT Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00604; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:21:48 GMT Received: from localhost by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA18768; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:21:44 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:21:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Big Funky X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: Si Weeks cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Seeding In-Reply-To: <39664367508@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si, the moral is quite obvious: Northern teams are better than teams comprised of southern pansies!!!!!! Jon Good - southern pansy playing with real men (can I say that?!?) aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian' and 'More than just a Hint' aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of 'Blue Arse Flies' D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. Vice-Captain S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers J'ai mange de la vache enragee, tout les temps! World of Crack! "Three young women who should know better, lowered defences on seven pints of bitter." From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 10:32:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA05236 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:31:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05226 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:31:46 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA27484 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:31:45 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 000234F8; Mon, 8 Mar 99 10:29:40 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:29:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000234F8.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Publicity Cc: britdisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Author: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" >Spin Docs > >A college is offering a course in how to throw a frisbee. Grantham >College, Lincs, is set to produce Britains first qualified coaches in >the sport. Students will spend two hours a week learning the game. >Frisbee Ultimate is played on a 110 yrd pitch and spread from a US >High School in 1968 to most beaches around the world. >Sports science lecturer Paul Unwin said "its attractive to people >turned off by traditional sports because there is no contact and no >aggression. > >I dont know what to say?! Stick with the cliche: "All publicity is good publicity" If this looks shaky, qualify with: "It could be worse" (semi-serious) I wonder if they'd be interested in a sponsorship deal for Worlds... they pay the tournament some cash (?), and we allow them to put a double page spread with some nice colour photos, results and short interviews in the paper every day and guarantee them a certain distribution - like 5 copies per team, per day... [I have to assume that this has beem tried with other papers before, and I've never seen it happen yet, so I assume they're not interested...] (not-so-serious) then they could come sit on the "beach" in St.Andrews and watch the all those people who were turned off by traditional sports, and see all that lack of aggression... do you think that they might cotton-on that at two hours a week, there's quite a few years learning on pitch... Wayne Retter PS: Please excuse the royal "we"... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 11:00:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12643 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:59:12 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12632 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:59:09 GMT Received: from postal.interaccess.com (postal.interaccess.com [207.208.133.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02065 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:59:08 GMT Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [206.183.83.99]) by postal.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id EAA01700 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:58:23 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com BY mailhost.spencerstuart.com ; Mon Mar 08 05:00:48 1999 Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:00:15 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Albatross lives on! Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:55:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BD-ers Here's a quality national media mention, which as far as I'm concerned is rare enough to warrant a Britdisc posting. >From page 6 of The Observer yesterday, the article "That's another fine club you've got me into"? > In lieu of an online article to copy-and-paste, here are the relevant > paragraphs: > > Britain's traditional institutions - from churches to trade unions - > are fast losing members as new and exclusive clubs spring up in their > place. > In place of holy communion come Laurel and Hardy. Out with the > Women's Institute - in with frisbee-throwing teams. > The clubbable spirit has never been stronger, according to a Gallup > poll to be released this week...being in a club is the number one > pastime for 21 million of us. > Essex Rocket Club recently became the first amateur group to break the > sound barrier; the Albatross Ultimate is a thriving frisbee-throwing > group; and the UK Sucrologists Club brings together collectors of > packets of sugar. > [...and then some stuff about how important clubs are, but nothing > specifically about Ultimate] > Now, about those sugar packets...sounds like a hoot! > Cheers > Wayne Albatross (outdoors) Angels (indoors) GB Masters (dreams) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 11:04:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13959 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:04:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13928 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:04:15 GMT Received: from rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.71.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02996 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:04:14 GMT Received: from stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (stork [152.78.71.1]) by rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09972; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:04:12 GMT Received: from klf.ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:wp296@klf [152.78.71.184]) by stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA10817; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:04:12 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:04:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Will Parker Reply-To: Will Parker To: Si Weeks cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Seeding In-Reply-To: <39664367508@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc and Si Weeks, Sorry for those who don't care, especially non-students, but I have just read Si Weeks' message to Britdisc and I was very upset by the tone he took. With hindsight, I would rather not have said what I said about the seeding at the students but I think the whole thing was taken out of context. It is true as he said, that if we were expecting to qualify, why did we lose three games? But what I said about the seeding was more referring to how strangely the whole tournament went, through no fault of the organisers: it was another of those weird three way ties which we lost out on. We were never using the seedings as an excuse and I think the whole thing just sums up exactly how bad I am at making speeches (as anyone who knows me will tell you). Next time maybe I will just ignore the call of SPEECH from the rest of my team who were out there to embarass me!!!! We NEVER went to Leeds saying "we are the best team at the tournament". NEVER. We believed we had a chance of winning, like any of the other teams in the top half. Surely a lot of the team's targets is to win aswell as to have fun. That was why I said "we didn't come to win this trophy (ie the plate)". In response to your final comment: > That's about it. I look forward to seeing Skunks at the outdoors, > Please let me know Skunks, if you would you like a bye straight > to the final just to make sure you don't lose to one of the 'lesser' > northern teams again. frankly, I am offended and I find this ridiculous and extremely rude. We will definately be at the student outdoors and we will be glad if we can even manage to stay until Sunday after last year's disaster of broken down cars and injury. If we have a chance of winning, we will try, but we won't be going around saying "we are the best" as you obviously think we do. Also, I would like to point out that we never said or even implied that the northern teams were "LESSER". In fact I KNOW that they are far far stronger. Just look at the results!! Why did you make this comment????? Your email was unneseccary. If you had to send it, why did you not ask Skunks why we said these things rather than launching into a personal attack and implying we said things that we didn't? Look forward to seeing everyone we saw at Leeds again and if the outdoors is even half as good as Leeds was then it will be excellent. Thanks for listening. I really hope I didn't offend any one else. Will Skunks -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Chewy wrote: > At the end of the tournament i forgot to say thanks to Si Weeks who > actually wrote the schedule for the weekend ( sorry Si ). But Thanks. No problem at all. However it appears not everyone shared your opinion. This year we opted for two pools of eight. Dave Farmyard, Chewy and I made this decision based on the fact that a student teams strengths change a lot over the course of a year (e.g. Mohawks last year's outdoor champions failed to even qualify for the indoors this year). Therefore we opted for the largest pools possible in order to neglect the effect of the seeding. > This matched Skunks (winners of the South-east qualifier) up with Far > Flung (no.6 in the Northern qualifier - they only got in 'cos Flying > Sorcerers dropped out) first game Saturday morning. Skunks lost this > game and then also lost to Bears (the eventual winners) and Jedi > later in the group stages. > > On collecting the plate in the presentation, Skunks commented that > "This isn't the trophy we came to win, the only thing that has beaten > us all weekend is the seeding." > > Whilst I feel that they were a little unfortunate to be the team that > missed out and end up in the bottom eight as a result of a two way > tie for fourth place, I do not think they can blame this on the > seeding. > > They had every opportunity to qualify. If they were the best team in > the tournament why did they lose three games? > > Maybe putting this email out was unnecessary. It's taken me all week, > to decide whether I should do it. But having heard another team that > were not at Nationals being given exactly the same explanation by > Skunks for their poor performance, I decided it was time to set the > record straight. > > That's about it. I look forward to seeing Skunks at the outdoors, > Please let me know Skunks, if you would you like a bye straight > to the final just to make sure you don't lose to one of the 'lesser' > northern teams again. > > Later, > > Si Weeks. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 12:41:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10920 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:40:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10899 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:40:15 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10185 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:40:13 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:37:39 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:37:37 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A575B@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Defamation of Character Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:37:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Brief, but direct statement: At no time did I entertain a small wager with one Randal Faulkner. Or his son. Or his mother. Or pet gerbil. No bet. I would like to take this opportunity to remove myself officially from any past, present or future statements from the aforementioned family. Please also note my use of punctuation. And capital letters. sincerely Mark Jefferson From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 17:38:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA01139 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01132 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:39 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00105 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:38 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.249] (helo=pebley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10K3xC-00025P-00; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:34 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 17:36:34 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 17:36:21 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: wp296@ecs.soton.ac.uk Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Seeding CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3DFBB986264@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Will, Cc: Britdisc I'm glad to hear that your comment on collecting the trophy wasn't as arrogant as it sounded. The student outdoors was just a gag, sorry for any offence caused. See you in Bakewell and I hope if you have to make a speech that you choose your words more carefully. Si Weeks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 17:45:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02695 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:44:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02688 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:44:28 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12282 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:43:55 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10K446-0002C7-00; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:43:42 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:54:28 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVN1LS; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:43:52 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id RAA01838; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:37:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma001823; Mon, 8 Mar 99 17:36:57 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00413; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:39:19 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA01139 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01132 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:39 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00105 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:38 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.249] (helo=pebley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10K3xC-00025P-00; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:34 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 17:36:34 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 17:36:21 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: wp296@ecs.soton.ac.uk Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:36:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Seeding CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3DFBB986264@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Will, Cc: Britdisc I'm glad to hear that your comment on collecting the trophy wasn't as arrogant as it sounded. The student outdoors was just a gag, sorry for any offence caused. See you in Bakewell and I hope if you have to make a speech that you choose your words more carefully. Si Weeks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 18:21:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA10524 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10518 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:07 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05471 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:06 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.249] (helo=pebley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10K4dJ-00038c-01; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:05 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 18:19:54 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:19:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sheffield Open Indoor Qualifiers CC: ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <3E0756C75AA@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This weekend saw the first qualifiers for the Open Indoors. Unfortunately, Saturday saw Sheffield blanketed with a couple of inches of snow, yet this was not enough to deter the comitted competitors (although some did have to push their bus up a steep hill close to the venue). Saturday saw Chevron dominating (even wearing afro wigs and fake moustaches) with strong challenges coming from Bob, Phatfly, Jedi and Phat 'Eds . The only drawback to the day was the cheesy dance music being spewed forth from the speakers on the sidelines (the team responsible will remain anonymous, although you can be assured the host club were not responsible). The social saw much drinking and unfortunately for witnesses, nakedness. Sheffield, the home of the Full Monty , inspired a few misguided individuals to emulate their on screen heroes. (Who was that bloke with the tiny penis anyway?) There was also the usual post party flood the hosts house action, with a poor Phat 'Eds player returning from a triumphant pull at his faculty ball to see water pouring through his kitchen ceiling. Sunday arrived (far to early for some) and various players played with drink induced symptoms i.e. hangovers, blurred vision and in some cases a state of prolonged inebriation. Crossovers were played first and then onto the seroius issue of qualification. These games were played on the BIG pitch (congrats to Phateds for playing the 3rd 4th playoff agianst Phatfly iron man). The final saw Chevron overcoming BOB. The full results were as follows with the top six qualifying for Nationals. Jed Children II have already refused a place should it become available, so if anyone drops out MMJ will step in. 1. Chevron Action Flash (Claret Jug Winners) 2. BOB 3. Phatfly 4. Phat 'Eds 5. Jedi Children 6. Take Phat 7. Jedi Children II 8. Mild Mannered Janitors 9. Mwnci See (Plate Winners) 10. Zebedee 11. Too Phat 12. Brunel Falcons 13. Disciples 14. Disciples II Spirit was hotly contested with over half the teams getting a vote. However, it was Mwnci See whoe were to enjoy the Tequilla on the long ride back to Aberystwyth. Finally, Fantasy League Frisbee was also contested for everyones last game, which raised eighteen pounds for Comic Relief. The best team was selected by Will (Jedi II). MVP went to Chris (also Jedi II) and LVP (also receiving a trophy) went to Steve (Mwnci See). Thanks to everyone who came and congratulations and good luck for Cheltenham for those who qualified. Si W DJ Tournament Director Tournament Reporter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 8 18:27:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA11935 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:27:00 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11920 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:26:57 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15717 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:26:53 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10K4jq-0005XO-00; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:26:51 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:37:33 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVN1N8; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:26:56 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id SAA04424; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma004382; Mon, 8 Mar 99 18:20:04 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05634; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:21:28 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA10524 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10518 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:07 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05471 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:06 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.249] (helo=pebley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10K4dJ-00038c-01; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:20:05 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 18:20:04 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 8 Mar 99 18:19:54 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:19:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sheffield Open Indoor Qualifiers CC: ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <3E0756C75AA@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This weekend saw the first qualifiers for the Open Indoors. Unfortunately, Saturday saw Sheffield blanketed with a couple of inches of snow, yet this was not enough to deter the comitted competitors (although some did have to push their bus up a steep hill close to the venue). Saturday saw Chevron dominating (even wearing afro wigs and fake moustaches) with strong challenges coming from Bob, Phatfly, Jedi and Phat 'Eds . The only drawback to the day was the cheesy dance music being spewed forth from the speakers on the sidelines (the team responsible will remain anonymous, although you can be assured the host club were not responsible). The social saw much drinking and unfortunately for witnesses, nakedness. Sheffield, the home of the Full Monty , inspired a few misguided individuals to emulate their on screen heroes. (Who was that bloke with the tiny penis anyway?) There was also the usual post party flood the hosts house action, with a poor Phat 'Eds player returning from a triumphant pull at his faculty ball to see water pouring through his kitchen ceiling. Sunday arrived (far to early for some) and various players played with drink induced symptoms i.e. hangovers, blurred vision and in some cases a state of prolonged inebriation. Crossovers were played first and then onto the seroius issue of qualification. These games were played on the BIG pitch (congrats to Phateds for playing the 3rd 4th playoff agianst Phatfly iron man). The final saw Chevron overcoming BOB. The full results were as follows with the top six qualifying for Nationals. Jed Children II have already refused a place should it become available, so if anyone drops out MMJ will step in. 1. Chevron Action Flash (Claret Jug Winners) 2. BOB 3. Phatfly 4. Phat 'Eds 5. Jedi Children 6. Take Phat 7. Jedi Children II 8. Mild Mannered Janitors 9. Mwnci See (Plate Winners) 10. Zebedee 11. Too Phat 12. Brunel Falcons 13. Disciples 14. Disciples II Spirit was hotly contested with over half the teams getting a vote. However, it was Mwnci See whoe were to enjoy the Tequilla on the long ride back to Aberystwyth. Finally, Fantasy League Frisbee was also contested for everyones last game, which raised eighteen pounds for Comic Relief. The best team was selected by Will (Jedi II). MVP went to Chris (also Jedi II) and LVP (also receiving a trophy) went to Steve (Mwnci See). Thanks to everyone who came and congratulations and good luck for Cheltenham for those who qualified. Si W DJ Tournament Director Tournament Reporter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 10:18:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14927 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:16:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14910 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:16:54 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02395 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:16:54 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:15:27 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:15:25 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A5774@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: K-niggets? Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:15:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Any K-nigget please respond TODAY I want to get your entry pack for the regionals off but need an address. If you have Gail Osbourne's address, great. Otherwise your's will do. Cheers Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 10:28:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA17382 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:27:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17371 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:27:16 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03409 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:27:11 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KJjA-0007Rh-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 05:27:09 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 05:38:03 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNFTH; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:27:05 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id KAA23714; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:20:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma023700; Tue, 9 Mar 99 10:20:30 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01648; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:19:16 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14927 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:16:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14910 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:16:54 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02395 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:16:54 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:15:27 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:15:25 -0000 From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A5774@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: K-niggets? Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:15:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Any K-nigget please respond TODAY I want to get your entry pack for the regionals off but need an address. If you have Gail Osbourne's address, great. Otherwise your's will do. Cheers Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 10:51:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23295 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:50:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23276 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:50:10 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06385 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:50:08 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:47:44 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:49:45 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED330@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour 1 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:49:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Firstly Apologies; Due to typing error and misunderstanding with my secretary (i.e. I'm thick) the deadlines for entries into the tour are incorrect - the dates are right, the months are wrong. This should read; 10/11 April Hitchin 20 March 8/9 May Sheffield 17 April 5/6 June Edinburgh 15 May 26/27 June Southampton 5 June 17/18 July Exeter 26 June Thank you to all who pointed that out. This mail is also to confirm that Tour 1 is to be held in Hitchin - one of the few venues not to be blighted by the footy season. I am aware that it means people need to go and practice their zones - I just hope that the gale force winds won't be too bad. Teams need to pay their deposits and BUF subs soon to guarantee places in the tour, and there are some very noticeable absences; Those that have paid Dora Kemp are; 1 Strange Blue 2 Bliss 3 Whiplash 4 Twin Peaks 5 Skunks 6 Chevron Action Flash 7 Druids 8 Gael Force 9 Nightfever 10 Sharks 11 Albatross 12 Headrush 13 Blue Arse Flies 1 14 Blue Arse Flies 2 15 First Touch So if you intended to play in the tour - start organising your team now! Chris Hughes (DoC) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 10:55:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA24554 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:55:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24538 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:55:10 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07175 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:55:02 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KKA7-0000Kb-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 05:54:59 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 06:05:54 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNFXG; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:54:55 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id KAA26054; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:48:40 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma026041; Tue, 9 Mar 99 10:48:15 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06652; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:51:57 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA23295 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:50:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23276 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:50:10 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06385 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:50:08 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 09 Mar 1999 10:47:44 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:49:45 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED330@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour 1 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:49:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Firstly Apologies; Due to typing error and misunderstanding with my secretary (i.e. I'm thick) the deadlines for entries into the tour are incorrect - the dates are right, the months are wrong. This should read; 10/11 April Hitchin 20 March 8/9 May Sheffield 17 April 5/6 June Edinburgh 15 May 26/27 June Southampton 5 June 17/18 July Exeter 26 June Thank you to all who pointed that out. This mail is also to confirm that Tour 1 is to be held in Hitchin - one of the few venues not to be blighted by the footy season. I am aware that it means people need to go and practice their zones - I just hope that the gale force winds won't be too bad. Teams need to pay their deposits and BUF subs soon to guarantee places in the tour, and there are some very noticeable absences; Those that have paid Dora Kemp are; 1 Strange Blue 2 Bliss 3 Whiplash 4 Twin Peaks 5 Skunks 6 Chevron Action Flash 7 Druids 8 Gael Force 9 Nightfever 10 Sharks 11 Albatross 12 Headrush 13 Blue Arse Flies 1 14 Blue Arse Flies 2 15 First Touch So if you intended to play in the tour - start organising your team now! Chris Hughes (DoC) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 11:47:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07665 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07643 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:34 GMT Received: from callisto.ftel.co.uk (callisto.ftel.co.uk [192.131.79.11] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11959 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:33 GMT Received: from ftel.co.uk (honegger.ftel.co.uk [172.16.5.16]) by callisto.ftel.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7/Revision:1.32) with ESMTP id LAA21308 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:27 GMT Message-ID: <36E5072A.8623D1D1@ftel.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:34:02 +0000 From: Steve Sheppard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Masters Team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for the World Clubs? Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have gone quiet. Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc by the end of the month so time is short! Cheers Steve (sometimes VH, ex STAN) -- Dr Steven J. Sheppard Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 11:59:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA21336 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21306 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:13 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16117 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:03 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KL8v-000274-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 06:57:50 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:08:45 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNF88; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:57:40 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id LAA01705; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:51:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma001669; Tue, 9 Mar 99 11:51:12 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14561; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:48:10 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07665 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07643 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:34 GMT Received: from callisto.ftel.co.uk (callisto.ftel.co.uk [192.131.79.11] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11959 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:33 GMT Received: from ftel.co.uk (honegger.ftel.co.uk [172.16.5.16]) by callisto.ftel.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7/Revision:1.32) with ESMTP id LAA21308 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:27 GMT Message-ID: <36E5072A.8623D1D1@ftel.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:34:02 +0000 From: Steve Sheppard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Masters Team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for the World Clubs? Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have gone quiet. Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc by the end of the month so time is short! Cheers Steve (sometimes VH, ex STAN) -- Dr Steven J. Sheppard Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:06:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23248 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:05:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23210 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:05:42 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17481 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:05:32 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLFi-0002JY-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:04:51 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:15:46 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNF92; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:04:40 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id LAA02451; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma002419; Tue, 9 Mar 99 11:58:03 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16443; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:00:02 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA21336 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21306 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:13 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16117 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:58:03 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KL8v-000274-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 06:57:50 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:08:45 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNF88; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:57:40 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id LAA01705; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:51:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma001669; Tue, 9 Mar 99 11:51:12 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14561; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:48:10 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA07665 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07643 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:34 GMT Received: from callisto.ftel.co.uk (callisto.ftel.co.uk [192.131.79.11] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11959 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:33 GMT Received: from ftel.co.uk (honegger.ftel.co.uk [172.16.5.16]) by callisto.ftel.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7/Revision:1.32) with ESMTP id LAA21308 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:45:27 GMT Message-ID: <36E5072A.8623D1D1@ftel.co.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:34:02 +0000 From: Steve Sheppard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Masters Team Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for the World Clubs? Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have gone quiet. Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc by the end of the month so time is short! Cheers Steve (sometimes VH, ex STAN) -- Dr Steven J. Sheppard Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:11:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA24660 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24652 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:01 GMT Received: from polaris.kbw.co.uk (dns1.kbw.co.uk [193.132.201.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14675 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:01 GMT Received: by dns1.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:08:49 -0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Masters Team Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:08:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is something up with Britdisc today? This is the 3rd copy of this message I've received and I've got 2 copies of previous ones. NE1 else got the same problem? TIA, roger > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Sheppard [mailto:S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 11:34 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Masters Team > > > > Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for > the World > Clubs? > > Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have > gone quiet. > > Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc > by the end > of the month so time is short! > > Cheers > > Steve > (sometimes VH, ex STAN) > > -- > Dr Steven J. Sheppard > Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk > Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 > Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:17:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26489 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26459 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:36 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15505 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:28 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLQq-0002h5-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:16:21 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:27:16 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNF0Q; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:14 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA03767; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma003754; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:09:50 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18938; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:11:53 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA24660 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24652 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:01 GMT Received: from polaris.kbw.co.uk (dns1.kbw.co.uk [193.132.201.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14675 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:01 GMT Received: by dns1.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:08:49 -0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Masters Team Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:08:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is something up with Britdisc today? This is the 3rd copy of this message I've received and I've got 2 copies of previous ones. NE1 else got the same problem? TIA, roger > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Sheppard [mailto:S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 11:34 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Masters Team > > > > Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for > the World > Clubs? > > Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have > gone quiet. > > Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc > by the end > of the month so time is short! > > Cheers > > Steve > (sometimes VH, ex STAN) > > -- > Dr Steven J. Sheppard > Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk > Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 > Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:23:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28002 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27983 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:55 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16171 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:54 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:45 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:42 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A577B@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional URGENT Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To anyone without a team for the regionals: Due to an unavoidable, but nevertheless dissappointing, withdrawal from MK this weekend, a gaping wound has appeared in the schedule. Please step forward to fill it..... Anyone wishing to pick up, please get in touch. Any team wishing to pull something together last minute, please get in touch. My happiness depends on your intervention. 3 hours plus of Ultimate could be yours..... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:24:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28516 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:23:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28496 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:23:42 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21064 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:23:37 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLX8-0002tt-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:22:51 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:33:46 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNGAF; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:22:45 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA04664; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma004614; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:16:13 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20059; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:17:53 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA26489 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26459 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:36 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15505 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:28 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLQq-0002h5-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:16:21 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:27:16 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNF0Q; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:16:14 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA03767; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma003754; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:09:50 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18938; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:11:53 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA24660 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24652 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:01 GMT Received: from polaris.kbw.co.uk (dns1.kbw.co.uk [193.132.201.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14675 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:10:01 GMT Received: by dns1.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:08:49 -0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Masters Team Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:08:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is something up with Britdisc today? This is the 3rd copy of this message I've received and I've got 2 copies of previous ones. NE1 else got the same problem? TIA, roger > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Sheppard [mailto:S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 11:34 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Masters Team > > > > Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for > the World > Clubs? > > Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have > gone quiet. > > Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc > by the end > of the month so time is short! > > Cheers > > Steve > (sometimes VH, ex STAN) > > -- > Dr Steven J. Sheppard > Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk > Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 > Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:30:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA00625 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:30:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00569 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:29:55 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17055 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:29:47 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLdb-00037w-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:29:31 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:40:27 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNGAX; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:29:18 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA05458; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:23:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma005404; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:22:43 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21097; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:23:44 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28002 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27983 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:55 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16171 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:54 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:45 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:42 -0000 From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A577B@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional URGENT Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:21:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To anyone without a team for the regionals: Due to an unavoidable, but nevertheless dissappointing, withdrawal from MK this weekend, a gaping wound has appeared in the schedule. Please step forward to fill it..... Anyone wishing to pick up, please get in touch. Any team wishing to pull something together last minute, please get in touch. My happiness depends on your intervention. 3 hours plus of Ultimate could be yours..... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:36:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02303 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02259 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:44 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23596 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:43 GMT Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:33:34 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Roger Thomson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Masters Team Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:33:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roger, Stop sending that bloody message!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:Roger@kbw.co.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 12:09 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Masters Team > > Is something up with Britdisc today? > > This is the 3rd copy of this message I've received and I've got 2 copies > of > previous ones. > > NE1 else got the same problem? > > TIA, > roger > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Sheppard [mailto:S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk] > > Sent: 09 March 1999 11:34 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: Masters Team > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for > > the World > > Clubs? > > > > Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have > > gone quiet. > > > > Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc > > by the end > > of the month so time is short! > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > (sometimes VH, ex STAN) > > > > -- > > Dr Steven J. Sheppard > > Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk > > Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 > > Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:45:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04664 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04659 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:53 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25211 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:45 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLs7-0003o1-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:44:32 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:55:27 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNGCD; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:22 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA07557; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:38:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma007499; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:37:45 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23924; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:37:37 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02303 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02259 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:44 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23596 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:43 GMT Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:33:34 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Roger Thomson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Masters Team Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:33:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roger, Stop sending that bloody message!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:Roger@kbw.co.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 12:09 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Masters Team > > Is something up with Britdisc today? > > This is the 3rd copy of this message I've received and I've got 2 copies > of > previous ones. > > NE1 else got the same problem? > > TIA, > roger > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Sheppard [mailto:S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk] > > Sent: 09 March 1999 11:34 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: Masters Team > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for > > the World > > Clubs? > > > > Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have > > gone quiet. > > > > Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc > > by the end > > of the month so time is short! > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > (sometimes VH, ex STAN) > > > > -- > > Dr Steven J. Sheppard > > Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk > > Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 > > Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 12:52:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06311 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:51:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06289 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:51:05 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26392 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:50:57 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLxw-00045L-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:50:32 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:01:28 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNGCZ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:50:23 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA08702; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma008654; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:43:50 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25519; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:46:20 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04664 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04659 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:53 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25211 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:45 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KLs7-0003o1-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:44:32 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:55:27 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNGCD; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:22 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id MAA07557; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:38:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma007499; Tue, 9 Mar 99 12:37:45 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23924; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:37:37 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02303 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02259 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:44 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23596 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:35:43 GMT Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:33:34 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Roger Thomson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Masters Team Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:33:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roger, Stop sending that bloody message!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:Roger@kbw.co.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 12:09 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Masters Team > > Is something up with Britdisc today? > > This is the 3rd copy of this message I've received and I've got 2 copies > of > previous ones. > > NE1 else got the same problem? > > TIA, > roger > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Sheppard [mailto:S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk] > > Sent: 09 March 1999 11:34 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: Masters Team > > > > > > > > Does anyone know what is happening about the Masters team for > > the World > > Clubs? > > > > Colin Smith was originally sorting something out but all seems to have > > gone quiet. > > > > Obviously there's the concept of having to pay entry fees etc > > by the end > > of the month so time is short! > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > (sometimes VH, ex STAN) > > > > -- > > Dr Steven J. Sheppard > > Fujitsu Telecom. Europe Ltd ** email: S.Sheppard@ftel.co.uk > > Birmingham Business Park ** phone: 0121 717 6503 > > Birmingham, B37 7YU ** fax : 0121 717 6014 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 14:45:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07599 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07592; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:47 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12102; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:46 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:44 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A5786@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, ecumu@csv.warwick.ac.uk, paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk, damian.mudge@sema.co.uk, d0097469@infotrade.co.uk, shipley@tesco.net, a.findlay@bton.ac.uk, sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, andrew@rfeltham.demon.co.uk, khalsall@bucfp.demon.co.uk, dak12@cus.cam.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional - Final Info Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks This message should tell you all you need to know about the regional. If not, ask someone else. The original intention to split Saturday into AM and PM for pool games has been abandoned - the timing only worked for 24 teams. With only twenty (19?) we need to begin crossovers on Saturday afternoon. Captains' meeting is therefore at 0845hrs. FORMAT: (subject to ammendment in the event of a complete disaster, or at my whim.....) Four pools of five, with games of 20 minutes. Crossovers for 16 teams of 20 minutes. The top team in each pool qualifies without a crossover. quarters and semis for top 16 of 20 minutes. Bottom 4 play round robin of 20 minute games. Position playoffs for top 16 of 40 minutes plus cap. No complaints! First games as follow: (Some teams are down twice: your second game is another's first.....) 0900hrs slipdisc bears III (sorry Sarah!) bears II (Sorry!) lurkers 0922hrs mohawks strange blue II strange blue mad kows 0944hrs druids whiplash wild stallyns ? 1006hrs blue arse flies onion (sorry Paul - forgot full name but have your letter at home) look at me hurricane 1028hrs fifth element slipdisc uti bearsII 1050hrs mr men mohawks bears strange blue SPIRIT: To avoid three and four way ties, as have been common of late, SOTG will not be decided by a vote but on a scoring system (It's been done somewhere before, possibly Leicester???) Forms will be given out at Captains' meeting - each team you play will be given a score out of five. No guidelines will be given - it's up to you to judge what merrits a particular score. If you don't get a rep to the meeting please make sure you pick up this form and score after each game. DIRECTIONS: The maps (posted) are so straight-forward that you probably won't need directions in the city itself but here they are anyway. The city road system is in a grid format, and roads are numbered (V for vertical roads, H for horizontal roads) - signposts before each roundabout tell you which road you are approaching. All roundabouts are named, and signs are easily visible. >From the north, east midlands (M1): Come off the M1 at junction 14, turning right, into Milton Keynes. At the first roundabout (Northfield) take the third exit onto H5. Cross four roundabouts (Pineham, Pagoda, North Overgate and North Skeldon) and at fifth roundabout (Belvedere) turn right onto V8. Cross one roundabout (Downs Barn) and at next roundabout (Redbridge) turn left onto H3. At first roundabout (Stantonbury) turn right onto V7 and the entrance to Stantonbury Campus is the first on your right. >From the south east (M1): Come off the M1 at junction 14, turn left into Milton Keynes and follow directions for traffic from the north, east midlands (M1), starting at the Northfield roundabout, (paragraph 2, "At the first roundabout.....") >From the south, south east (M40): Leave the M40 at junction 9, and head east into Bicester. The first two or three miles will be on the A41 (duel carriageway.) Go straight on at all times, following signs for Buckingham, and you will end up on the A421. It will take you 15 or 20 minutes to reach Buckingham - the road bypasses the town itself. By this point signs for Milton Keynes will have appeared. At a final, two-exit roundabout, a sign will direct "Milton Keynes north" traffic to the left, "Milton Keynes" traffic to the right. Follow the north route and turn left. Drive down the hill (for about a mile), over a small roundabout, and at the main roundabout turn right onto the A422. This road will take you (in about ten or fifteen minutes) to a large roundabout with traffic-control on the A5 (a Little Chef will be on your right hand side.) Turn right onto the A5 south-bound (duel carriageway.) Come off the A5 at the first exit (signs for the A422.) Take the second exit onto the A422 (H3) and drive straight over two roundabouts (Stacey Bushes and Bancroft) (past the concrete cows! - left hand side after the railway over-pass.) At the third roundabout (Stantonbury) turn left onto V7 and the entrance to Stantonbury Campus is the first on your right. >From the north, west midlands (M40): NB. I've only ever driven this route in reverse, and can't remember it all that well, but signposts were pretty accurate and it all seemed straight-forward. It can't be particularly difficult, but if in doubt, use directions for south west traffic. Leave the M40 at junction 11 and take the A422 to Brackley. The first part of the journey will be dual carridgeway. At some point along this you need to turn right at a roundabout and go up a hill, single carridgeway. This is still the A422. Stay on the A422 for what seems like forever, through Buckingham and on towards Milton Keynes. Beyond Buckingham, you are on the same road as south east traffic. Follow directions from the third paragraph ("This road will take you.....") >From the west, south west, south: >From this side of the country, whatever road you take, you will need to bypass Oxford (A40 from Cheltenham, A420 from Swindon, A34 from Newbury etc.) When you reach the outskirts of Oxford, if you are not already on it, take the A34 northbound, for M40 north traffic etc. At the M40 junction (9) drive straight over, heading for Bicester, and follow directions for south, south east (M40) from paragraph 2, ("the first two or three miles.....") I can't think of anything more I need to say except drive carefully and I'll see you on Saturday. Bye...... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 14:57:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA10781 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:56:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10730 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:56:32 GMT Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13979 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:56:14 GMT Received: from [206.2.168.100] (helo=bgus-mail.gfi-us.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KNvN-0004fh-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:56:02 -0500 Received: by mail2.GFI-US.COM with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:06:55 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com (172.20.0.30 [172.20.0.30]) by benexchange.benfieldgreig.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id GPPVNGM7; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:55:45 -0000 Received: by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com; id OAA05281; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:49:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.31) by gatekeeper.benfieldgreig.com via smap (3.2) id xma005203; Tue, 9 Mar 99 14:49:09 GMT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12375; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:46:11 GMT Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA07599 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07592; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:47 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12102; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:46 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:44 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:42 -0000 From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A5786@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, ecumu@csv.warwick.ac.uk, paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk, damian.mudge@sema.co.uk, d0097469@infotrade.co.uk, shipley@tesco.net, a.findlay@bton.ac.uk, sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, andrew@rfeltham.demon.co.uk, khalsall@bucfp.demon.co.uk, dak12@cus.cam.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional - Final Info Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:43:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks This message should tell you all you need to know about the regional. If not, ask someone else. The original intention to split Saturday into AM and PM for pool games has been abandoned - the timing only worked for 24 teams. With only twenty (19?) we need to begin crossovers on Saturday afternoon. Captains' meeting is therefore at 0845hrs. FORMAT: (subject to ammendment in the event of a complete disaster, or at my whim.....) Four pools of five, with games of 20 minutes. Crossovers for 16 teams of 20 minutes. The top team in each pool qualifies without a crossover. quarters and semis for top 16 of 20 minutes. Bottom 4 play round robin of 20 minute games. Position playoffs for top 16 of 40 minutes plus cap. No complaints! First games as follow: (Some teams are down twice: your second game is another's first.....) 0900hrs slipdisc bears III (sorry Sarah!) bears II (Sorry!) lurkers 0922hrs mohawks strange blue II strange blue mad kows 0944hrs druids whiplash wild stallyns ? 1006hrs blue arse flies onion (sorry Paul - forgot full name but have your letter at home) look at me hurricane 1028hrs fifth element slipdisc uti bearsII 1050hrs mr men mohawks bears strange blue SPIRIT: To avoid three and four way ties, as have been common of late, SOTG will not be decided by a vote but on a scoring system (It's been done somewhere before, possibly Leicester???) Forms will be given out at Captains' meeting - each team you play will be given a score out of five. No guidelines will be given - it's up to you to judge what merrits a particular score. If you don't get a rep to the meeting please make sure you pick up this form and score after each game. DIRECTIONS: The maps (posted) are so straight-forward that you probably won't need directions in the city itself but here they are anyway. The city road system is in a grid format, and roads are numbered (V for vertical roads, H for horizontal roads) - signposts before each roundabout tell you which road you are approaching. All roundabouts are named, and signs are easily visible. >From the north, east midlands (M1): Come off the M1 at junction 14, turning right, into Milton Keynes. At the first roundabout (Northfield) take the third exit onto H5. Cross four roundabouts (Pineham, Pagoda, North Overgate and North Skeldon) and at fifth roundabout (Belvedere) turn right onto V8. Cross one roundabout (Downs Barn) and at next roundabout (Redbridge) turn left onto H3. At first roundabout (Stantonbury) turn right onto V7 and the entrance to Stantonbury Campus is the first on your right. >From the south east (M1): Come off the M1 at junction 14, turn left into Milton Keynes and follow directions for traffic from the north, east midlands (M1), starting at the Northfield roundabout, (paragraph 2, "At the first roundabout.....") >From the south, south east (M40): Leave the M40 at junction 9, and head east into Bicester. The first two or three miles will be on the A41 (duel carriageway.) Go straight on at all times, following signs for Buckingham, and you will end up on the A421. It will take you 15 or 20 minutes to reach Buckingham - the road bypasses the town itself. By this point signs for Milton Keynes will have appeared. At a final, two-exit roundabout, a sign will direct "Milton Keynes north" traffic to the left, "Milton Keynes" traffic to the right. Follow the north route and turn left. Drive down the hill (for about a mile), over a small roundabout, and at the main roundabout turn right onto the A422. This road will take you (in about ten or fifteen minutes) to a large roundabout with traffic-control on the A5 (a Little Chef will be on your right hand side.) Turn right onto the A5 south-bound (duel carriageway.) Come off the A5 at the first exit (signs for the A422.) Take the second exit onto the A422 (H3) and drive straight over two roundabouts (Stacey Bushes and Bancroft) (past the concrete cows! - left hand side after the railway over-pass.) At the third roundabout (Stantonbury) turn left onto V7 and the entrance to Stantonbury Campus is the first on your right. >From the north, west midlands (M40): NB. I've only ever driven this route in reverse, and can't remember it all that well, but signposts were pretty accurate and it all seemed straight-forward. It can't be particularly difficult, but if in doubt, use directions for south west traffic. Leave the M40 at junction 11 and take the A422 to Brackley. The first part of the journey will be dual carridgeway. At some point along this you need to turn right at a roundabout and go up a hill, single carridgeway. This is still the A422. Stay on the A422 for what seems like forever, through Buckingham and on towards Milton Keynes. Beyond Buckingham, you are on the same road as south east traffic. Follow directions from the third paragraph ("This road will take you.....") >From the west, south west, south: >From this side of the country, whatever road you take, you will need to bypass Oxford (A40 from Cheltenham, A420 from Swindon, A34 from Newbury etc.) When you reach the outskirts of Oxford, if you are not already on it, take the A34 northbound, for M40 north traffic etc. At the M40 junction (9) drive straight over, heading for Bicester, and follow directions for south, south east (M40) from paragraph 2, ("the first two or three miles.....") I can't think of anything more I need to say except drive carefully and I'll see you on Saturday. Bye...... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 17:13:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA13989 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:12:05 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13977 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:12:02 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:13:01 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: once only I hope? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a test message to see if my efforts to remove the multiple copies of postings from britdisc has succeeded - if it has, all credit to Neil Travers for his helpful observations. If it hasn't, please bear with me as Ralf has clearly left an incompetent fool in charge while he suns himself in Australia! Cheers, Sam. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 17:56:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA23260 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:55:18 GMT Received: from holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@holly-fddi [137.205.4.5]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23244 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:55:13 GMT Received: from europa.bton.ac.uk (europa.bton.ac.uk [194.83.112.9]) by holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA17399 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:55:10 GMT Received: from alpha2.bton.ac.uk ([194.81.203.3]) by europa.bton.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10KQ8Y-0005Uj-00; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:17:46 +0000 Received: from localhost by alpha2.bton.ac.uk (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0212PM) id AA04085; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:17:46 GMT Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:17:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Ali Findlay To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Rule changes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk While checking out the WUCC99 web page, I came across the new WFDF rule changes they propose to use for WUCC. Most of the new rules and changes are about timings after points and timeouts, but at the end of the page I came across this shocker. Failing to catch after touching (Replacement rule 404.05 D (8) Whenever a member of the receiving team touches the disc during its flight (whether in or out-of bounds) and the receiving team subsequently fails to catch the disc prior to its touching the ground, any member of the receiving team can pick up the disc from where it stops. This replaces current rule 404.05.D (8). NOTE: this means you can drop the pull and still keep possession. The full list of rule changes are on the WUCC99 web page www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ ALi Mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 9 21:07:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24336 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:05:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24328 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:05:44 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21153 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:05:43 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-034.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.34]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA05124 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:02:37 GMT Message-ID: <009301be6a70$b04efac0$22a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: Subject: Re: WFDF Rule changes Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:23:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Sharp-eyed Ali has spotted the new rule changes from WFDF: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/. We have only just received these today ourselves and we will correspond with teams once we've had a proper chance to digest them ourselves. As you can see there are some fairly radical changes primarily designed to speed the game up and reduce stoppages. As the document also states, WFDF will be looking to the National Associations for feedback on their effectiveness. These new rules have been given 'guideline' status until June 7th 1999 at which point they will be confirmed with any additions or deletions gained from the practical experience of players and moderated by WFDF. We in Britain will need to decide how and when these rules will be implemented. Issues such as the scope of introductions like the 'Corner Disc' rule, requiring five game discs for a match, will need to be decided. We will make a full statement on all of this in due course. If in the meantime you have anything you'd like to say on the matter feel free to email the BUF at this address (buf@ultimateweb.co.uk). So for the time being, "Don't drop the pull!" Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary -----Original Message----- From: Ali Findlay To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 09 March 1999 17:58 Subject: Rule changes >While checking out the WUCC99 web page, I came across the new WFDF rule >changes they propose to use for WUCC. Most of the new rules and changes >are about timings after points and timeouts, but at the end of the page I >came across this shocker. > >Failing to catch after touching (Replacement rule 404.05 D (8) > >Whenever a member of the receiving team touches the disc during its flight >(whether in or >out-of bounds) and the receiving team subsequently fails to catch the disc >prior to its >touching the ground, any member of the receiving team can pick up the disc >from where it >stops. > >This replaces current rule 404.05.D (8). > >NOTE: this means you can drop the pull and still keep possession. > >The full list of rule changes are on the WUCC99 web page > www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ > >ALi >Mohawks > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 08:57:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA06579 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:49:04 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06570 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:49:01 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:44:00 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Dave Neilson Subject: Tour I Invitations Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 10 + 11 April 1999 - Tour I - Hitchin Invitations go in the post, first class, on Wednesday 10 March, to the team contacts (addresses as per the BUF website allteams.xls database) of the teams listed at the end of this message. Please be aware that the official closing date for entry to this event is 20 March 1999. (This may get extended a _little_) You need to get sorted ASAP - send deposits (15.00) to BUF c/o Dora Kemp, and entrance fees (80.00) and forms to Layout Dreams - so that we can confirm your entry and send you any further details. Whether or not you are on the following list, if your team does not plan to attend, please let me know, so that I know who NOT to expect. Remember - teams do not have to enter all of the events, or be rostered, so it's possible for newer/smaller/less established teams to combine (check out the Ultim8 Tour Rules at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/ultim8/tour1999/ ) and enter one-off events - if they enter soon enough. I look forward to hearing from you soon Wayne Retter Layout Dreams If your team is NOT on this list, and your email contact should be receiving an additional message. If you're a "new" team, and you don't have any info, you need to contact me. ALBATROSS BEARS BLISS BLUE ARSE FLIES (CATCH 22) CHAOS CHEVRON ACTION FLASH EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY WOMENS ESSEX UNIVERSITY FINGERS 6 FIRST TOUCH FLUID DRUIDS FUBAR GB JUNIOR TEAM HEADRUSH HURRICANES JEDI CHILDREN KINGS COLLEGE LONDON K-NIGGETS LURKERS MILD MANNERED JANITORS MOHAWKS MORPHINE LOGIC MUD CULTURE MWNCI SEE NIGHT FEVER NO FRILLS OW! PHAT 'EDS PICNIC IN THE SKY PLAYTHINGS POOKAS PURPLE HAZE RED RESERVOIR FISH SHARKS SKUNKS SLIPDISC SNEEEKY'S STRANGE BLUE SUPERFLY TOXIC NINJA ATTACK TWIN PEAKS URIEL UTI VILLAGE PEOPLE VIOLENTLY HAPPY WHIPLASH (ANTIPODEAN MIX) _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 11:02:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA03699 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:59:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03661 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:59:54 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20769 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:59:53 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:49:43 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:49:41 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A5796@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Rule changes Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:49:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does the following rule change apply specifically to the pull or does this mean we don't have to catch anymore? > -----Original Message----- > From: Ali Findlay [SMTP:A.Findlay@bton.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 March 1999 17:18 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Rule changes > > Failing to catch after touching (Replacement rule 404.05 D (8) > > Whenever a member of the receiving team touches the disc during its flight > (whether in or > out-of bounds) and the receiving team subsequently fails to catch the disc > prior to its > touching the ground, any member of the receiving team can pick up the disc > from where it > stops. > > This replaces current rule 404.05.D (8). > > NOTE: this means you can drop the pull and still keep possession. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 11:44:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA16089 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:42:34 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16059 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:42:27 GMT Received: from dirc.bris.ac.uk (dirc.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.51]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA13371 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:42:26 GMT Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dirc.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:42:17 +0000 Received: from lang-ah27.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah27.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.132]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28466; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:40:42 GMT From: Raf Freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: RE: Rule changes In-Reply-To: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A5796@bell.open.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:38:30 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1 Build (3) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:49:40 -0000 M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk wrote: > > Does the following rule change apply specifically to the > pull or does this mean we don't have to catch anymore? Don't be stupid, you only keep possession after dropping it if your team is called "receiving". Rafi (receiving 22) ps "receiving" is a registered teamname of a team previously known as catch 22. he...he.. > > Whenever a member of the receiving team touches the > disc during its flight > (whether in or > > out-of bounds) and the receiving team subsequently > fails to catch the disc > prior to its > > touching the ground, any member of the receiving team > can pick up the disc > from where it > > stops. > > > This replaces current rule 404.05.D (8). > > > NOTE: this means you can drop the pull and still keep > possession. > > _________________________________________ Dr Raf Freire University of Bristol Dept. Clinical Veterinary Science Div. Animal Health and Husbandry Langford House Langford Bristol BS40 5DU Tel: 0117 9289355 Fax: 0117 9289582 ________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 13:58:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA26749 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:57:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26675; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:56:57 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05327; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:56:56 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:47:07 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:47:05 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A579E@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, dak12@cus.cam.ac.uk, khalsall@bucfp.demon.co.uk, andrew@rfeltham.demon.co.uk, sean.holden@framestore.co.uk, a.findlay@bton.ac.uk, damian.mudge@sema.co.uk, paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk, ecumu@csv.warwick.ac.uk, d0097469@infotrade.co.uk, shipley@tesco.net, Ind-Ultimate-List@open.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional - Update Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:47:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK Major crisis of confidence. Am rescheduling as we speak. Watch this space for news of new starting times. Please endeavour to arrive for Captain's Meeting anyway..... Cheers Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 14:58:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA11880 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:57:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11872 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:57:45 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA09778 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:57:44 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:53:33 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:53:31 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27025A57A2@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: PRESS RELEASE: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:53:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk REVOLUTIONARY NEW FORMAT TO BE UNVEILED IN MILTON KEYNES THIS WEEKEND. TEAMS TO SCHEDULE THEIR OWN GAMES WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT. TURN UP, FIGHT FOR COURT TIME, GO HOME. "IT'S BRILLIANT" T.D. WAS QUOTED AS SAYING. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 15:59:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA25197 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:57:21 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06570 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:49:01 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:44:00 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Dave Neilson Subject: Tour I Invitations Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 10 + 11 April 1999 - Tour I - Hitchin Invitations go in the post, first class, on Wednesday 10 March, to the team contacts (addresses as per the BUF website allteams.xls database) of the teams listed at the end of this message. Please be aware that the official closing date for entry to this event is 20 March 1999. (This may get extended a _little_) You need to get sorted ASAP - send deposits (15.00) to BUF c/o Dora Kemp, and entrance fees (80.00) and forms to Layout Dreams - so that we can confirm your entry and send you any further details. Whether or not you are on the following list, if your team does not plan to attend, please let me know, so that I know who NOT to expect. Remember - teams do not have to enter all of the events, or be rostered, so it's possible for newer/smaller/less established teams to combine (check out the Ultim8 Tour Rules at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/ultim8/tour1999/ ) and enter one-off events - if they enter soon enough. I look forward to hearing from you soon Wayne Retter Layout Dreams If your team is NOT on this list, and your email contact should be receiving an additional message. If you're a "new" team, and you don't have any info, you need to contact me. ALBATROSS BEARS BLISS BLUE ARSE FLIES (CATCH 22) CHAOS CHEVRON ACTION FLASH EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY WOMENS ESSEX UNIVERSITY FINGERS 6 FIRST TOUCH FLUID DRUIDS FUBAR GB JUNIOR TEAM HEADRUSH HURRICANES JEDI CHILDREN KINGS COLLEGE LONDON K-NIGGETS LURKERS MILD MANNERED JANITORS MOHAWKS MORPHINE LOGIC MUD CULTURE MWNCI SEE NIGHT FEVER NO FRILLS OW! PHAT 'EDS PICNIC IN THE SKY PLAYTHINGS POOKAS PURPLE HAZE RED RESERVOIR FISH SHARKS SKUNKS SLIPDISC SNEEEKY'S STRANGE BLUE SUPERFLY TOXIC NINJA ATTACK TWIN PEAKS URIEL UTI VILLAGE PEOPLE VIOLENTLY HAPPY WHIPLASH (ANTIPODEAN MIX) _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 16:35:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA04316 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:34:35 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA04299 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:34:31 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA04879 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:34:30 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:34:24 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:34:23 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FC84@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Guess who? MK Info.... Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:34:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've done it! One miraculous format coming up! Off to see a friend make an arse of himself on stage (apparently he's dancing to Steps) but will give details of first games tomorrow. The good news is some of you won't be starting until 1130! The bad news is I still want somebody there for captain's meeting. Got to go Byeeeeee Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 10 21:07:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21914 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:05:59 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21907 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:05:57 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03268 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:05:57 GMT Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10KqAo-000PCl-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:05:56 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:59:22 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Layout Dreams Subject: Re: Tour I Invitations In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dave Neilson writes >10 + 11 April 1999 - Tour I - Hitchin > >Invitations go in the post, first class, on Wednesday 10 March, to the team >contacts (addresses as per the BUF website allteams.xls database) of the >teams listed at the end of this message. Any/all replies should please come to LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk Cheers Wayne PS: Thanks, Sammy, for forwarding those you've received. PPS: I've got bounces from messages sent to the Chaos (madbob111@aol.com - user unknown) and BGA (bga@daletaylor.co.uk - user is unknown) email contacts. _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 10:01:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA06959 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:00:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06952 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:00:21 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16132 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:00:19 GMT Received: from [158.152.23.8] (helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10L2Fs-000OA6-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:59:52 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:06:53 -0000 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: drop the pull Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:06:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My first opportunity to put my oar in. 1. Timing and corner discs. Strikes me as pretty unworkable in most of our tourneys. However - teams going to WUCC will need to practice. They could do this against each other. This is OK for us and UTI - might not be so good for the co-ed teams as they may play each other less frequently. (???) Suggest that we could adopt a system of something like: "Teams that want to play with corner discs must bring extra discs. If one team wants to do this - and they have brought the necessary discs - then the other team are asked to (ie they must) comply." 2. I would like to formally (how do I do that?) ask the BUF to go back to the WFDF Ultimate committee to re-instate the dropped-pull rule. This is a brilliant rule. And I speak as a player who is usually on the wrong-end of it! Si (22) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 10:06:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA08106 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:05:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08073 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:05:43 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01165 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:05:42 GMT Received: from [194.159.98.2] (helo=postcard.KSCL.COM) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10L2LK-000Oqj-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:05:30 +0000 Received: by POSTCARD.kscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:05:35 -0000 Message-ID: From: Fraser Macrae To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: drop the pull Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:05:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Couldn't agree more. If you risk catching the pull to gain an advantage and screw up, you should be penalised with a turnover. Fraser (sneeeky's) -----Original Message----- From: Simon Hill [mailto:simon.hill@actix.com] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 9:07 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: drop the pull My first opportunity to put my oar in. 1. Timing and corner discs. Strikes me as pretty unworkable in most of our tourneys. However - teams going to WUCC will need to practice. They could do this against each other. This is OK for us and UTI - might not be so good for the co-ed teams as they may play each other less frequently. (???) Suggest that we could adopt a system of something like: "Teams that want to play with corner discs must bring extra discs. If one team wants to do this - and they have brought the necessary discs - then the other team are asked to (ie they must) comply." 2. I would like to formally (how do I do that?) ask the BUF to go back to the WFDF Ultimate committee to re-instate the dropped-pull rule. This is a brilliant rule. And I speak as a player who is usually on the wrong-end of it! Si (22) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 14:16:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA08940 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:13:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08923 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:13:30 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25090 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:13:29 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:09:54 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:09:53 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FC8A@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional - READ ME! Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:09:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The tournie schedule is finished: There is a pick-up space for anyone who wants to come down and play, or for a team that wants to pull itself togther for a weekend of Ultimate. First game times are as follows. I know some of the later teams will want the lie in but where possible could you please attempt to have a representative at the Captain's meeting? Cheers..... 0900 Bears II Lurkers Wyld Stallyns UTI 0922 Mr Men Mohawks Onion Terror Strange Blue II 0944 Strange Blue Mad Kows Look at Me Hurricane 1006 Whiplash Slipdisc Fifth Element Bears III 1028 Pickup 1050 Blue Arse Flies 1112 Bears 1134 Druids - you can pay me later Off to buy the prizes. Have a good one! Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 14:42:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA16312 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:41:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16294 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:41:35 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21271 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:41:34 GMT Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:41:18 -0000 Message-ID: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED340@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Matt Franklin Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:41:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could Matt Franklin contact me ASAP please, or if anyone knows a work or home phone number could they please let me know. Please ring my mail system is a bit wobbly at the moment. Chris Hughes (01242 543299 - w) (01452 380529 - h) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 15:15:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA24700 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:13:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24681 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:13:35 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA23869 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:13:34 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 000299D1; Thu, 11 Mar 99 15:12:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:11:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000299D1.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: DG on Sky Sports 2 - Yesterday To: BritDisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have been advised by my colleagues that there were "two chaps talking about frisbees" on Sky Sports 2, before the football, last night. Further discussion revealed that "some kind of basket with chains" was involved, and it was all "on someones farm". Was this expected? Recent footage, or something new? are the BDGA keeping their publicity drive quiet :) BTW, my collegues actually paid attention to the program, because they knew I "played with frisbees", and found it quite interesting - "better than real golf" - and would be willing to partake, should a convenient chance arise. Wayne From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 18:06:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04802 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:05:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04788 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:05:38 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA01949 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:05:37 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 11 Mar 99 18:05:38 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 11 Mar 99 18:05:09 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:05:07 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: DG on Sky Sports 2 - Yesterday In-reply-to: <000299D1.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne wrote.. > I have been advised by my colleagues that there were "two chaps talking about > frisbees" on Sky Sports 2, before the football, last night. .....(part of message deleted) > Was this expected? Recent footage, or something new? are the BDGA keeping their > publicity drive quiet :) This was expected and recent footage. It was filmed on 19th Feb at Quarry Park and included an interview with me and some throws by Richard Sampson and myself. It was a good bit of coverage and lasted nearly 3 minutes. The programme was European Golf Tour Weekly and is shown around europe and on the golf channel in north america. In fact I had an e-mail from Juha in Finland who saw it on a german sports programme. The next scheduled TV appearance for disc golf will be "Moment of Truth" with Cilla Black. Filming is next month, I don't yet know when it will be broadcast. Derek *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 18:07:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA05115 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:07:10 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05107 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:07:09 GMT Received: from curlew.cs.man.ac.uk (curlew.cs.man.ac.uk [130.88.13.7]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07522 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:07:08 GMT Received: from fs1.eng.man.ac.uk ([130.88.29.100]) by curlew.cs.man.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #2) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10L6NU-00004x-00; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:24:00 +0000 Received: from UK-AC-MAN-ENG-FS1/SpoolDir by fs1.eng.man.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 11 Mar 99 14:23:59 BST Received: from SpoolDir by UK-AC-MAN-ENG-FS1 (Mercury 1.43); 11 Mar 99 12:48:41 BST From: "P.P.Guest" Organization: University of Manchester To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:48:32 BST Subject: RE: drop the pull X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <1627F7E0D0D@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Couldn't agree more. > If you risk catching the pull to gain an advantage and screw up, you should > be penalised with a turnover. > Fraser > (sneeeky's) > Doesn't this rule change give recieving players the chance to just hit the disc back as far as they can the other way? Doesn't sound like a particularly workable rule to me - too open to abuse. Cheers, Paul (f6) ------------------------------- Paul Guest University of Manchester P.P.Guest@stud.man.ac.uk MBGA5PPG@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 18:30:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA10166 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:29:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10156; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:29:15 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08928; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:29:14 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.249] (helo=pebley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10LABF-0007Iq-00; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:27:37 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 11 Mar 99 18:27:37 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 11 Mar 99 18:27:35 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 18:27:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Invite to Student Outdoors CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <42899B11111@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA10159 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Student Teams, The official invite to the Student Outdoors are in the post and should be arriving on most team contacts' doormats in the morning. Please note that demand is expected to be greater than the number of teams that can be catered for, so first teams have priority up until the 3rd April only, so get your cheques in the post now and do not wait until after the holidays. Full details are given below: This year the National Student Outdoor Championships are set in the picture-postcard surroundings of Derbyshire's Peak District. With camping for all, good English pub grub, and two party venues, incorporating a live band and lots of beer, it’s sure to be an exceedingly good tournament. As in the past there will be no qualifiers, so the tournament will take place as one big extravaganza on the 1st/2nd May 1999. Last year twenty six teams entered the tournament. With a total of around forty student teams this year, demand is expected to be greater than the twenty-eight places available. In order to give each team a fair chance, cheques of eighty pounds made payable to ‘More Than Just A Tournament’ will be accepted on a first come, first served basis with first teams having priority up until Saturday 3rd April. After this date cheques will be accepted in the order they were received from second teams, third teams, etc. Therefore cheques should be sent as soon as possible to guarantee your place. If you need to claim the money back off your Student Union then it is probably best to get one of your club members to send a cheque straight away and then I will send you a receipt so you can claim it back off your Student Union at a later date. Accomodation will be in the form of onsite camping. There will be enough room for all teams. For those of you who require more luxury, a list of alternative accommodation is in the post along with the official invite. However, this is Bank Holiday weekend, so it will be very busy and you will need to book very soon. See you all there, Simon Weeks Tournament Director -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 11 20:54:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA01785 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:52:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA01767 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:52:29 GMT Received: from bridge.freeuk.net (bridge.freeuk.net [212.126.144.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18834 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:52:29 GMT Received: from [212.126.148.10] (helo=default) by bridge.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10LCRO-0004hx-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:52:26 +0000 From: "er2de2" To: Subject: Fw: drop the pull Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:37:58 -0000 Message-ID: <01be6bff$0c7b6b00$0100007f@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You can spot the good intention behind the new rule: It may make the game more fluid, as it takes the risk out of bringing the disc into play more quickly. Still, as someone who has gone through the humiliating experience before, I'd miss the thrill that comes with every pull heading my way... I can only agree with Si, the old rule should stay, not just for the comedy value of seeing someone else screw up. After all, mistakes must be punished. Tammo (Chevron) er2de2@bigfoot.com -----Original Message----- From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 11 March 1999 10:03 Subject: drop the pull > >2. I would like to formally (how do I do that?) ask the BUF to go back to >the WFDF Ultimate committee to re-instate the dropped-pull rule. This is a >brilliant rule. And I speak as a player who is usually on the wrong-end of >it! > >Si (22) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 01:45:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA14392 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:44:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA14386 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:44:49 GMT Received: from mailc.surrey.ac.uk (mailc.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.100.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA28930 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:44:49 GMT Received: from default (actually host annex1-14.surrey.ac.uk) by mailc.surrey.ac.uk with SMTP-external (PP); Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:44:24 +0000 Reply-To: cs81bm From: Ben McCormack To: Ben Ravilious , David Grayson , BRITDISC Subject: RE: starting uni teams & student mailing list Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:48:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001301be6c2a$66e0fe40$1885e383@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <015e01be65d8$7d88a100$34a492c3@pii266> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all Just to give another picture of student Ultimate Clubs and Student Unions. I have started a club down here at University of Surrey. What happened here is a story of nothing but support for the Club. I have been given help all of the way along. - I have been given 2 hours regular use of the sports hall on campus every week right from the beginning. - We are now an official union club and we have only existed for 6 weeks. - We also have interdepartmental Ultimate tournament running. My advice to anyone wanting to start a club is that it is a great thing to do. I have met so many new people through the Union. What I found really useful was trying to get to know the right people. Try to get your Sports Sabbatical along for one of the sessions because support from them makes it all easier. Once you know the sports crowd then you have a much easier time, for the past 6 years at Surrey there has been a Rugby person has been our Sports Sabbatical. I am now starting to think that I will stand next year and hopefully become the first Ultimate playing Sports Sabbatical as other people have suggested that I should stand. ================================= Ben McCormack University of Surrey Ultimate Frisbee Club Ext. 4194 Mobile 07971 480526. ================================= -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:bravil@webleicester.co.uk] Sent: 03 March 1999 23:58 To: David Grayson; BRITDISC Subject: Re: starting uni teams & student mailing list Dave, Your story is a lesson for us all! I took 3 long years to pursuade Leicester that we were worth it. As for subsidsing new teams, ALL new teams (student or otherwise) can have provisional (free) membership in their first year. At present we only allow them to attend three events. Tell me about any changes which you think might encourage new teams (free student membership - yeah right!) Nice work - can I keep your story for publication in the future? Ben BUF Secretary -----Original Message----- From: David Grayson To: student-ultimate@egroups.com Cc: P.P.Guest ; Ben Ravilious Date: 03 March 1999 14:13 Subject: starting uni teams To share some information on how we managed to start a Uni team in Glasgow - apologies for length. Our Uni had the same system as that described by Paul in Manchester. That is - there must be 15 members for 2 years before there was any support given by the AU. Full accounts, membership lists etc. were also provided. We got around this by the following method. 1. Our Uni has a system where an individual must join the AU - after that they can join as many clubs as they like. We set our club membership fee at zero pounds and took the names and membership numbers of 15 people (all swimmers as it happens) and they agreed to join our club to give us the required number of members. 2. We trained on public parks and invited members of the public to play with us. As we did not use Uni facilities and received no support we saw no reason to insist on members to join the AU. At this point we had a distinction between members and players. As we were not breaking any rules we could be quite open about it. 3. We went to the Sports and Recreation Service in the University - who run the facilities and explained the situation to them. We said: "If you give us some hall time, we will run a free session for anyone in the Uni to come and play Ultimate" We guarantee to get 15-20 people each week and if we fall short we will give up our time. The sports service were more than happy to see good use of hall time and the promotion of a new sport. 4. We had been to the student newspaper and got an article in that promoted the sport and helped recruit players. They were also extremely excited about the chance of an anti-AU story (which of course when interviewed we put across diplomatically). 5. When we went back to the AU we explained what we had done and claimed that this counted as our first year. We had a constitution etc. and they accepted that argument. We also got into a long discussion about the problems of having a sport for all attitude while still having the 2 year rule. They then came back with an idea of "starter clubs" which meant that after one year we would be entitled to 4 minibuses a year and one-third of one percent of the total AU budget. There would be no more than three starter clubs in any one year and if they proved themselves then they would get full affiliation. That year 3 starter clubs were set up (Ultimate, Gaelic Football and Gymnastics). What is the take home message? Play by the rules, be honest about what you are doing, and win the arguments but don't be scared to bend the rules. We managed to show our AU that there was a demand for the sport, we could run it, but that we would not be prepared to make our players join the AU unless they supported us. "Sport for all" always gets AU peoples backs up - keep making them say they are interested in sport for all. Also keep other organisations onside - we had the newspaper and the sports service supporting us before our AU did. Finally always make them think they came up with something. Our AU president was delighted to come up with the idea of starter clubs and take the credit for the recent influx of new sports (which they do deserve credit for). Every Uni is different but don't expect money straight off. You will have to pay for tournaments yourself. What is the present situation with the BUF regarding new student teams? Perhaps there could be some sort of a starter club incentive in the BUF for registering new Uni teams (waive subs, 50% off entry fees to student indoor regionals?). Just an idea. Seems to me that at the moment the effort of starting a Uni team will far outweigh the initial benefits if a player already has a Uni team to play for. Much as the experience was fun and rewarding I'm not sure I would have done it if I could have gone and played elsewhere. Hope this is of some use to anyone presently struggling with establishment, Dave. Far Flung - Glasgow Uni. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 08:57:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA09368 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:56:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09361 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:56:14 GMT Received: from dirc.bris.ac.uk (dirc.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.51]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA11475 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:56:13 GMT Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dirc.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV (PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:56:06 +0000 Received: from lang-ah27.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah27.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.132]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA00346; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:54:02 GMT From: Raf Freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk cc: BritDisc Subject: Re: DG on Sky Sports 2 - Yesterday In-Reply-To: <000299D1.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:51:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1 Build (3) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > BTW, my collegues actually paid attention to the program, > because they knew I "played with frisbees", and found it > quite interesting - "better than real golf" - and would > be willing to partake, should a convenient chance arise. Dear Wayne and others, While we're riding on this DG publicity tidal wave (er.. ripple) First golf tournament of the year is this week-end at Colchester University and there are about 14 tournaments running up to November. Taking part is easy- just turn up. Dates and contact details are on the britdisc diary, BDGA newsletter (for which you have to be a member), and BDGA webpage- or alternatively contact me. There are 2 main types of events- tour and non-tour. Non-tour events are smaller, format is more flexible so tend to be more beneficial for novices. Begineers are welcomed and catered for at tour events too, only difference is that there are a few contenders/pretenders getting serious about it all. You don't even need to turn up with golf discs, they can usually be bought (or sometimes borrowed) at tournaments- or alternatively play with your ultrastar. Rafi (BDGA competitions director) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 09:36:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA15343 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:35:28 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA15333 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:35:26 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01be6bff$0c7b6b00$0100007f@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:36:25 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Fw: drop the pull Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think it is another watering down of what the more mature players know as REAL Ultimate - just to pander to the weaker new players who cannot catch (let alone throw). Some history... Have you ever noticed the chorus of "TWO HANDS!" when someone drops? This is a throwback to when they first weakened the rules to allow players to catch with both hands - up until then, you HAD TO catch with ONE hand and the habit was hard to break. When they changed the rules, teams adopted the strategy of verbal reinforcement whenever the disc was in the air and heaven help any player who didn't heed the reminder ... the tradition continues! Going back to the 'pull' rules - they ought to insist that if the disc lands in the receiving team's endzone, then they immediately lose possession, thus forcing that team to make the catch. Pulls short of the endzone can be left to land without penalty. This would properly reward decent pulls and add excitement to the start of every point! Just some Friday morning thoughts ... Cheers, Sam. Tammo writes: >Still, as someone who has gone through the humiliating experience before, >I'd miss the thrill that comes with every pull heading my way... >I can only agree with Si, the old rule should stay, not just for the comedy >value of seeing someone else screw up. > >After all, mistakes must be punished. and Si Hill wrote: >>2. I would like to formally (how do I do that?) ask the BUF to go back to >>the WFDF Ultimate committee to re-instate the dropped-pull rule. This is a >>brilliant rule. And I speak as a player who is usually on the wrong-end of >>it! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 10:02:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA20463 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20453 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:26 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15804 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:26 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:20 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:17 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FC94@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: More publicity Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:01:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In an attempt to redress the publicity balance between golf and ultimate I have persuaded Anglia TV to make an appearance in MK tomorrow, 10am. They'll be looking for televisual people to interview and will be filming some play. I'm not sure how interested they will be when they realise we don't have matching socks, so if anyone out there has a set of team shorts maybe we could pacify them...... see you there..... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 11:43:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA13987 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:41:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA13978 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:41:09 GMT Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23576 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:41:04 GMT Received: from [158.152.139.88] (helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10LQJG-00052a-0K; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:40:59 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:37:24 -0000 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E445207E@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk'" , Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Cc: BritDisc Subject: Disc Golf! Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:37:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, There was a small Golf Tourney in West London in January earlier this year, which I played in. It was my first and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes I played the majority of the course with an Ultrastar and yes I did do OK. (My best round was better that Derek 'The Wind's' worst, not bad for a first effort, I think) Having said that Derek did a grand salesman's pitch and flogged me two golf discs, neither of which have been thrown since. I say stop those Golf Tourneys clashing with the Ultimate ones (and my training schedule) and maybe you'll get more Ultimate players interested. Any Ultimate players thinking about having a go, I would definitely recommend it. Colin UTI. -----Original Message----- From: Raf Freire [SMTP:Raf.Freire@bristol.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, March 12, 1999 8:52 AM To: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Cc: BritDisc Subject: Re: DG on Sky Sports 2 - Yesterday > BTW, my collegues actually paid attention to the program, > because they knew I "played with frisbees", and found it > quite interesting - "better than real golf" - and would > be willing to partake, should a convenient chance arise. Dear Wayne and others, While we're riding on this DG publicity tidal wave (er.. ripple) First golf tournament of the year is this week-end at Colchester University and there are about 14 tournaments running up to November. Taking part is easy- just turn up. Dates and contact details are on the britdisc diary, BDGA newsletter (for which you have to be a member), and BDGA webpage- or alternatively contact me. There are 2 main types of events- tour and non-tour. Non-tour events are smaller, format is more flexible so tend to be more beneficial for novices. Begineers are welcomed and catered for at tour events too, only difference is that there are a few contenders/pretenders getting serious about it all. You don't even need to turn up with golf discs, they can usually be bought (or sometimes borrowed) at tournaments- or alternatively play with your ultrastar. Rafi (BDGA competitions director) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 12:14:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22767 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:43 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22748 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:40 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:13:37 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: MK Pick-up spaces: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi guys I promise this will be the last time I write today.* This is another reminder to all those players who tonight find themselves without a team. Players who rock themsleves to sleep and dream of playing Ultimate in Milton Keynes, only to wake up crying because no one wants them. This is your last chance to make friends and finally end that subscriptions to "Love Connection". No more late-night calls to those phonebars; leave those midnight snacks behind. Wene yourself off Barbara Streissand, Celine Dionne - restore your self-respect and dignity, put on your metaphoric dancing shoes and come to Milton Keynes, home of the 1999 south east (ish) Indoor Regional Championships! (Please.) See you there???? Mark *I reserve the right to withdraw this statement. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 12:14:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22881 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:13:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22851 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:58 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk [194.66.194.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01150 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:57 GMT Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:37 -0000 Message-ID: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED343@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Dave Neilson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: "'Me'" Subject: RE: Fw: drop the pull Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My feeling is with Sam's - that this pushes the balance of power further to the receiving team without giving the team that pulls any pay back. I appreciate the sentiments behind the whole concept; try and prevent that dead space between the time of the pull and a receiver ambling to the disc allowing the offensive team to set up its play. But I think the turnover rule as suggested by Sam is a bit harsh. I preferred the 'rumoured' rule that was going to be enforced; that if the pull landed in, and stayed in the pitch / endzone - then it had to be played from where it landed / caught, and could not be walked forward to the endzone line. This would encourage teams to put good pulls that land inbounds, and stay inbounds - i.e. did not roll out. Whilst encouraging teams to catch the disc and play. One assumes that if you make a mess of a catch and drop it, then a good defence would be on you by the time you pick it up! Chris Hughes (expressing his opinions as an individual) -----Original Message----- From: Dave Neilson [SMTP:D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 1999 09:36 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Fw: drop the pull I think it is another watering down of what the more mature players know as REAL Ultimate - just to pander to the weaker new players who cannot catch (let alone throw). Some history... Have you ever noticed the chorus of "TWO HANDS!" when someone drops? This is a throwback to when they first weakened the rules to allow players to catch with both hands - up until then, you HAD TO catch with ONE hand and the habit was hard to break. When they changed the rules, teams adopted the strategy of verbal reinforcement whenever the disc was in the air and heaven help any player who didn't heed the reminder ... the tradition continues! Going back to the 'pull' rules - they ought to insist that if the disc lands in the receiving team's endzone, then they immediately lose possession, thus forcing that team to make the catch. Pulls short of the endzone can be left to land without penalty. This would properly reward decent pulls and add excitement to the start of every point! Just some Friday morning thoughts ... Cheers, Sam. Tammo writes: >Still, as someone who has gone through the humiliating experience before, >I'd miss the thrill that comes with every pull heading my way... >I can only agree with Si, the old rule should stay, not just for the comedy >value of seeing someone else screw up. > >After all, mistakes must be punished. and Si Hill wrote: >>2. I would like to formally (how do I do that?) ask the BUF to go back to >>the WFDF Ultimate committee to re-instate the dropped-pull rule. This is a >>brilliant rule. And I speak as a player who is usually on the wrong-end of >>it! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 13:42:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA14986 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:41:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14969 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:40:57 GMT Received: from web701.mail.yahoo.com ([128.11.23.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA02727 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:35:05 GMT Message-ID: <19990312133158.19831.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.232.120.49] by web701.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:31:58 PST Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:31:58 -0800 (PST) From: Colin Smith Subject: Masters team To: Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry all for the long period of quiet. Been trying to sort my life out. Could all people (and I do mean all) who want to play for the Masters team for clubs please contact me by return, by email or phone (0181) 942 8050. As Steve Shepherd rightly pointed out, there is the small matter of a deposit to be paid at the end of the month. And of course the equally important matter of getting the team together for practices and tournaments. I will return all mail I receive on Monday, and will then set up the first meeting of the squad and tell you how much it will cost to be a part of Worlds. I have said before that I have had a nightmare with my email, and so now have no addresses for any of the people that were originally in the squad. I need at the very least fifteen people. Once I have those names, we can move on and get organised. Again sorry for general confusion Cheers Colin Smith Kniggets Ultimate Tel: 0181 942 8050 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 15:14:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA06607 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:12:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06591 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:12:44 GMT Received: from beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.129.138]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA29627 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:12:42 GMT Received: from cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.92]) by beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29763 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:12:40 GMT Received: from soton.ac.uk (maggie.aero.soton.ac.uk [152.78.240.162]) by cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with ESMTP id MAA17548 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:12:46 GMT Message-ID: <36E9059A.5E85AF0F@soton.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:16:26 +0000 From: Paul Schuricht X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Mailing List Subject: Becca moving house Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Becca H.(Women in Black/Bliss) asked me to post this. She is moving house this weekend. Her new contact details are: 47 Cromwell Road Polygon Southampton S015 2JE Tel: 01703 638041 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 16:20:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21340 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:19:42 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21281 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:19:32 GMT Received: from titan-bh.gartner.com (titan.gartner.com [206.98.32.100]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA14853 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:19:24 GMT Received: from titan-bh.gartner.com by titan-bh.gartner.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA19459; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:24:04 -0500 Received: by puma.gartner.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:18:11 -0500 Message-ID: <5E7179348EE2D1119C8C00805F15D912CD06D7@panther.gartner.com> From: "Slater,Emma-Jayne" To: "'p1cosull@cfi.capital.ge.com'" , "Diana (E-mail)" , "Hannah Easter (E-mail)" , "Gary Jarvis (E-mail)" , "Gen Connors (E-mail)" , "Tara Jewell (E-mail)" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk>, "Katey Forth (E-mail)" , "Laura Pearce (E-mail)" , "Kristin Lewis (E-mail)" , "Kirsten (E-mail)" , "Meike Scott (E-mail)" , "Natalie (E-mail)" , "Erin Primas (E-mail)" , "Terri (E-mail)" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Directions for women's practise tomorrow Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:16:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Directions to women's practise tomorrow (at last) Take the tube to Clapham South and on leaving the tube station turn left. You should automatically see the common land on your left and there is a lake there also. If you continued past the lake you would get to the Windmill pub. I suggest that we meet by the lake and take it from there as there appear to be a couple of places on the common that we have practised at before. See you all tomorrow E-J My mobile no: 0467 895985 Rebecca Forths mobile: 0973 410232 Emma-Jayne Slater GartnerMeasurement Tel: +44 1784 488946 Fax: +44 1784 488989 email: emma-jayne.slater@gartner.com > IT Measurement for Business Performance and Alignment, June 2-4, 1999 in > Palm Springs, CA > http://www.gartner.com/measureit > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 16:28:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA22979 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:27:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22963 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:27:29 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15451 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:27:28 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:26:50 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:26:49 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FCA9@bell.open.ac.uk> To: emma-jayne.slater@gartner.com, p1cosull@cfi.capital.ge.com, DBiag@aol.com, Hannah@ultimate19.freeserve.co.uk, gary.jarvis@rocketmail.com, gconnors@csc.com, 97315250@brookes.ac.uk, kateyforth@aol.com, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, Kristin.Lewis@wdr.com, misbist@ibm.net, scottm@rabo-bank.com, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, yo@eprimas.demon.co.uk, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Directions for women's practise tomorrow Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:26:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Don't go! Come to Milton Keynes! Take a women't team to the Nationals! > -----Original Message----- > From: Slater,Emma-Jayne [SMTP:emma-jayne.slater@gartner.com] > Sent: 12 March 1999 16:17 > To: 'p1cosull@cfi.capital.ge.com'; Diana (E-mail); Hannah Easter > (E-mail); Gary Jarvis (E-mail); Gen Connors (E-mail); Tara Jewell > (E-mail); Katey Forth (E-mail); Laura Pearce (E-mail); Kristin Lewis > (E-mail); Kirsten (E-mail); Meike Scott (E-mail); Natalie (E-mail); Erin > Primas (E-mail); Terri (E-mail); 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: Directions for women's practise tomorrow > > Directions to women's practise tomorrow (at last) > > Take the tube to Clapham South and on leaving the tube station turn left. > You should automatically see the common land on your left and there is a > lake there also. If you continued past the lake you would get to the > Windmill pub. I suggest that we meet by the lake and take it from there as > there appear to be a couple of places on the common that we have practised > at before. > > See you all tomorrow > > E-J > > My mobile no: 0467 895985 > Rebecca Forths mobile: 0973 410232 > > Emma-Jayne Slater > GartnerMeasurement > Tel: +44 1784 488946 > Fax: +44 1784 488989 > email: emma-jayne.slater@gartner.com > > > IT Measurement for Business Performance and Alignment, June 2-4, 1999 in > > Palm Springs, CA > > http://www.gartner.com/measureit > > > > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 12 19:41:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA23094 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:39:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23072 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:39:40 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA29275 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:39:38 GMT Received: from [194.222.139.162] (helo=cloe.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10LXmL-000JlD-0B; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:39:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:37:59 +0000 To: "Slater,Emma-Jayne" Cc: "'p1cosull@cfi.capital.ge.com'" , "Diana (E-mail)" , "Hannah Easter (E-mail)" , "Gary Jarvis (E-mail)" , "Gen Connors (E-mail)" , "Tara Jewell (E-mail)" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk>, "Katey Forth (E-mail)" , "Laura Pearce (E-mail)" , "Kristin Lewis (E-mail)" , "Kirsten (E-mail)" , "Meike Scott (E-mail)" , "Natalie (E-mail)" , "Erin Primas (E-mail)" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" From: Terri Whitehead Subject: Re: Directions for women's practise tomorrow In-Reply-To: <5E7179348EE2D1119C8C00805F15D912CD06D7@panther.gartner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone please remind me what time we are meeting? Thanks Terri In message <5E7179348EE2D1119C8C00805F15D912CD06D7@panther.gartner.com>, "Slater,Emma-Jayne" writes >Directions to women's practise tomorrow (at last) > >Take the tube to Clapham South and on leaving the tube station turn left. >You should automatically see the common land on your left and there is a >lake there also. If you continued past the lake you would get to the >Windmill pub. I suggest that we meet by the lake and take it from there as >there appear to be a couple of places on the common that we have practised >at before. > >See you all tomorrow > >E-J > >My mobile no: 0467 895985 >Rebecca Forths mobile: 0973 410232 > >Emma-Jayne Slater >GartnerMeasurement >Tel: +44 1784 488946 >Fax: +44 1784 488989 >email: emma-jayne.slater@gartner.com > >> IT Measurement for Business Performance and Alignment, June 2-4, 1999 in >> Palm Springs, CA >> http://www.gartner.com/measureit >> >> >> >> >> -- Terri Whitehead terri@cloe.demon.co.uk 0171-435-3450 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 13 17:37:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA24946 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:36:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24939 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:36:46 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA19336 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:36:45 GMT Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10LsL4-000GfM-0C; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:36:43 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:35:03 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, joffers@ibm.net, k970003@kingston.ac.uk, perchat@hotmail.com, rob.trup@virgin.net, paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk, cs81bm@surrey.ac.uk, surry@kcl.ac.uk, ultimate@ic.ac.uk, jolyon.thompson@ic.ac.uk From: Adeline Fonseka Subject: London 20th March MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Inaugural London 'Friendly Fire' Tourney 20th March 1999 Location: On the playing fields just south of the London Zoo, Regent's Park. Thanks to everyone who has emailed me with positives and with expressions of interest. The following teams have indicated that they will be playing at the Tourney: 1. Dough Boy - joffers@ibm.net 2. Kniggets - k970003@kingston.ac.uk 3. First Touch - David Whitehead 4. Under Cover Lovers 5. Albatross - 6. Chaos - 7. G Spots - Stefan Moores, perchat@hotmail.com The following teams have yet to confirm their entry: 1. Playthings - Robert Trup, rob.trup@virgin.net 2. Onion Terror - Paul Hurt, paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk 3. Uni of Surrey Ultimate - Ben McCormack, cs81bm@surrey.ac.uk 4. None of the Above - Spud, timothy, surry@kcl.ac.uk 5. Imperial College - ultimate@ic.ac.uk, jolyon.thompson@ic.ac.uk There may be enough people coming in to pick up on teams to justify an ad hoc Friendly Fire team. Players seeking to pick up should come prepared with one light and one dark shirt to fit the colours of the team with which you will be playing. FORMAT The format of the tourney will be a division into two pools, randomly drawn. In the event sufficient 'maybes' confirm entry in time there may be a third pool to accommodate the numbers. Pools will play a round robin format and there will be intermediate playoffs between the top two teams from each pool against each other in a standard semi-final / final set up. The third pitch (and we should have ample space for one, will be made available for the other teams to play each other. Matches will be organized by the captains amongst themselves with the understanding that games should be capped at 45 minutes in length to allow other teams time on the pitch. SCHEDULE Captains' Meeting will be at 12.15pm on the pitch. Teams should try and bring their own cones / accessories with them and volunteer to set up the pitches prior to the tourney's first game. First game will start at 12.45pm and will be capped at 45 minutes or 11 points, whichever comes first. There will be a 15 minute gap between games to exchange calls and rest up for the next match. ETHOS The tourney has been dubbed Friendly Fire to emphasize that the Spirit of the game is the primary driving force behind the competition. There are no entry fees and no prizes save for the kudos earned by good play. I hope this ethos survives to permeate any subsequent expansion of the Friendly Fire Tourney into a regular league format, a strong possibility in light of the immensely encouraging response I have received from London Teams and Ulty players up and down the country. I urge everyone to get behind the spirit of Friendly Fire and make it a great day out. Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers -- Adeline Fonseka From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 08:59:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA25926 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:58:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25909 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:58:48 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25882 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:58:47 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id IAA26388 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:58:45 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:58:45 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199903150858.IAA26388@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 20th March 1999 Indoor Nationals (2 days) [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 27th March 1999 BDGA Golf: Bristol Spring Fling (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Red Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Leicester Ultimate Club (Red) Address PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ Email red@ultimateweb.co.uk Phone 0116 2559638 (Ben Ravilious) Saturday 10th April 1999 BDGA Golf: Quarry Park Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Tour I (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th April 1999 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Bennison Email pbennison@sepro.ie Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 Dawn till dusk...: THE ULTIMATE DAY (1 day) @ University of Bradford [Outdoor Ultimate] Cost: A minimal fee will be requested from each team (£20) - ALL the money collected will go to Marie Curie Cancer Care Charity (reg. no.207994). Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 09:16:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA28194 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:14:59 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28186 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:14:58 GMT Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07585 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:14:57 GMT Received: from studentsw.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.13.104] helo=lms.student.gla.ac.uk) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #15) id 10MTSW-0005Ai-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:14:52 +0000 Received: from STUDENT_SW/SpoolDir by lms.student.gla.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 15 Mar 99 09:14:52 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by STUDENT_SW (Mercury 1.40); 15 Mar 99 09:14:51 +0000 From: "Ed Coates" <9705060c@student.gla.ac.uk> Organization: Glasgow University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:14:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Lost property - Glasgow qualifiers X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <11C9EBB6833@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> X-X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Ed Coates" <9705060c@student.gla.ac.uk> (SUPPRESSED at gla.ac.uk) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks! The following items were left at either the sports centre or my flat: a grey Champion top with 'Trinity' on the front a black scarf a blue towel (ro sham bo?) That's all we've found so far - if you did lose anything else drop me a line and we'll look a bit harder! Cheers Ed ____________________________________________________ Ed Coates Captain of Far Flung, Ultimate at Glasgow University 5 Ruchill St Glasgow 0141 946 3422 'People called Roman they go in the house' From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 12:19:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA09771 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:18:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09753 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:18:33 GMT Received: from uucp4.mail.uk.psi.net (uucp4.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.109.58]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07991 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:18:31 GMT Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp4.mail.uk.psi.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id MAA14313 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:17:36 GMT Received: from dreadnought.techprt.co.uk by ttpcom.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA15257; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:08:19 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990315121004.0068f208@comhost> X-Sender: br2@comhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:10:04 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Bruce Robins Subject: Lost Jacket at Milton Keynes regionals Cc: br2@ttpcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, We left a Sierra Designs goretex jacket at the Milton Keynes indoor regionals on the weekend and are pretty desperate to get it back. If anyone knows anything about it could you please get in touch. You can email me (br2@ttpcom.com) or phone me on (W) 01763 266453 or (H) 01462 490748. Jackie's work number is 0181 3622534. It was left in the upstairs viewing area above the main hall (Hall 1), about 20m past the entry doors. Yes, it was amongst that enormous pile of bags, discs, water bottles, clothes, people, etc, etc, etc. It's a Sierra Designs brand and is dark green and dark blue (black?). There are a few things in the pockets that aren't very easy to replace, including a rail card with her picture/name, so it should be easily identifiable. I have rung the Leisure Center, but it has not been handed in. many thanks, Bruce & Jackie Robins (ok, Potta). ======================================================================= O O O Bruce Robins Tel +44 1763 266453 O O O TTP Communications Ltd Fax +44 1763 261216 O O O Melbourn Science Park Registered office as shown TTPCOM Melbourn Royston Registered number 3475732 Herts SG8 6EE UK br2@ttpcom.com ======================================================================= From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 15:36:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26337 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:34:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26318 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:34:45 GMT Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26340 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:34:45 GMT Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10MZO6-0007ic-0K; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:34:43 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:59:45 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: BUF Ultim8 Tour - Event I Entry Fees MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please remember, the closing date for entry, which involves payment of both the 15.00 Deposit to the BUF and the 80.00 Entry Fee to the TD, is 20 March 1999. Entry Payments received by Layout Dreams (Wayne Retter): Thu 11/03 UTI Sun 14/03 Catch 22 * Mild Mannered Janitors * First Touch Mon 15/03 Skunks Mohawks Mwnci Magic * Phat 'Eds Fluid Druids (* = deposit to be sent to BUF c/o Dora Kemp) Deposits received by the BUF (Dora Kemp): Tue, 09 Mar Strange Blue * Bliss * Whiplash * Twin Peaks * Skunks Chevron Action Flash * Druids Gael Force * Nightfever * Sharks * Albatross * Headrush * Blue Arse Flies 1 * Blue Arse Flies 2 * First Touch Wed, 10 Mar UTI Dough Boy * Phat 'Eds (* = Entry Fee to be sent to Layout Dreams c/o Wayne Retter) Cheers Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 17:45:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA29271 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:43:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29257 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:43:49 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06312 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:43:48 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:33:03 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:33:02 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FCB1@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, chughes@chelt.ac.uk Subject: MK Regional Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:32:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks Back again, this time with results and a brief report (sort of). The final positions are as follows. "Q" indicates the team has qualified for the Nationals. 1. UTI Q 2. Mr Men Q 3. BAF Q 4. Wyld Stallyns Q 5. Druids Q 6. Bears Q 7. Look at Me Q 8. Strange Blue Q 9. Whiplash Q (plate) 10. Bears II 11. Mohawks 12. Lurkers 13. Fifth Element 14. Onion Terror 15. Hurricane 16. Slipdisc 17. Bears III 18. Mad Kows 19. Strange Blue II (spirit) MVP Steve Shipley (UTI) Special Contribution to Ultimate Sarah (UTI) I'm not really in the best position to report on the weekend's play given that I spent more time running between halls than I did watching games, so what you won't read from me is a match report: perhaps somebody else would like to contribute in that respect. I will say, however, that the standard of Ultimate throughout was worthy of the National Finals. As always, more teams deserved to qualify that ultimately (excuse the pun) could. Congratulations to all those who did, and best of luck next year for those who just missed out. I fumbled my way through the acknowledgements yesterday so would just like to systematically thank everyone again, or in some cases for the first time. In no particular order: Stantonbury Campus Leisure Centre staff and management, Anglia TV, Lisa Green (Sports Officer) and others in Milton Keynes Council Leisure Services, all of Whiplash, all of the Bears, Chris Hughes, Wayne Retter, Ian Stebbing, Paul Hurt, Graham Shellswell, The Citizen Newspaper, all of the Mad Kows, Stallyns (for the curry), you lot for turning up, my Mum, the man who blew up a hooter, and whoever invented tequila. Also everyone who I have forgot - I'm sure there are people, but please don't be offended, I was born a muppet and cannot help it. I have some lost property, but haven't got around to itemising it - I will put a message out in a few days. Once again, thank you all for coming. If I recover fully and am brave enough to hold another tournie, I promise to have ironed out the creases. Congratulations to the qualifyers - see you in Cheltenham. Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 15 21:13:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA00435 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:12:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00421 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:12:22 GMT From: m02e6r00@cwcom.net Received: from cwcom.net (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.152]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA15345 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:12:21 GMT Received: from cwcom.net ([195.44.14.10]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.167.16); Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: <36ED788D.6B6BB2D4@cwcom.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 21:15:57 +0000 Reply-To: jt-cam@cwcom.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, after a few fruitless searches for the correct web page for Britdisc, found only this address, and so hope this is the right way to go about subscribing... Please let me know if I'm on the right track or not, and can send more details forthwith! Catherine ex. Phat Ed/ex Jedi/ ex Snatch/ ex female Bear (once)! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 00:08:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA19978 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:07:49 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA19968 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:07:47 GMT Received: from nickel.cix.co.uk (nickel.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25817 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:07:46 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by nickel.cix.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id AAA27904 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:07:30 GMT X-Envelope-From: lholden@cix.compulink.co.uk Date: Tue, 16 Mar 99 00:07 GMT From: lholden@cix.compulink.co.uk (Louise Holden) Subject: Re: Masters team To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: lholden@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In-Reply-To: <19990312133158.19831.rocketmail@web701.mail.yahoo.com> Colin, As I said before I can't make Worlds this year but if you need to 'flesh out' the team for the tour and you don't mind someone who can't throw in the wind yet I would be very interested in playing with you. Cheers Paul Holden ex Lurkers, ex SLUT, now Slipdisc Birmingham From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 10:08:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA09004 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:06:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08978 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:06:36 GMT Received: from uucp4.mail.uk.psi.net (uucp4.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.109.58]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25465 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:06:32 GMT Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp4.mail.uk.psi.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id JAA09700; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:47:10 GMT Received: from dreadnought.techprt.co.uk by ttpcom.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA29060; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:31:54 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990316093339.0069ba80@comhost> X-Sender: br2@comhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:33:39 +0000 To: KMann@pmsi.co.uk, chughes@chelt.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, frisbee@mrao.cam.ac.uk, M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk From: Bruce Robins Subject: Re: Lost Jacket at Milton Keynes regionals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Just a quickie to let you know the left behind jacket turned up. It is on holidyas with Mark Jefferson for the week. If he wasn't so stubbly, i'd kiss him. Now that it's safe, I am free to say "Potta is a duffer and would forget her head if it wasn't bolted on". Love & Kisses, Brucie ======================================================================= O O O Bruce Robins Tel +44 1763 266453 O O O TTP Communications Ltd Fax +44 1763 261216 O O O Melbourn Science Park Registered office as shown TTPCOM Melbourn Royston Registered number 3475732 Herts SG8 6EE UK br2@ttpcom.com ======================================================================= From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 12:55:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA18973 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:51:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18963 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:51:48 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA20646 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:51:47 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0002C35D; Tue, 16 Mar 99 12:49:20 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:49:29 +0000 Message-ID: <0002C35D.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: BUF Indoor Nationals To: BritDisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk TD Contact: Chris Hughes' PC has just "thrown toys" in a rather serious, possibly suicidal, manner, therefore... if you need to contact Chris about the forthcoming w/e, PHONE him: home: 01452-380529, if you get no answer, try work: 01242-543299 you can Email the following address: layoutdreams@egroups.com and you'll probably get a response from ME. Accomodation: Alledgedly, the Cheltenham Racecourse accomodation, (a.k.a. HUNTERS LODGE) contact details isn't hugely obvious in the nice glossy book that your team should have, so... Hunters Lodge Cheltenham Racecourse Prestbury Park Cheltenham GL50 4SH tel: 01242-513345 fax: 01242-527306 approx cost is 10.00 per person for B+B, but it varies depending on how many people you put in a room (single person supplements, etc...) General (Tourist) Info: If you've got web access, check out http://www.cheltenham.gov.uk/ You can email the Tourist Info Office at tourism@chelt.demon.co.uk Word of warning: It's Gold Cup week from Tuesday 16 - Thursday 18 March, so your query may NOT be responded to quite as promptly as normal... Cheers Wayne Retter, on behalf of Chris Hughes Layout Dreams layoutdreams@egroups.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 14:41:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA16776 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:39:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16767 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:39:53 GMT Received: from mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com (mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com [193.130.129.196]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04254 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:39:52 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk (gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk [193.130.129.195]) by mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA02509 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:39:49 GMT Received: from uksn82.uk.oracle.com by gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk via smtpd (for mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com [193.130.129.196]) with SMTP; 16 Mar 1999 14:39:49 UT Received: by uksn82 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA27784; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:40:15 GMT Message-Id: <199903161440.OAA27784@uksn82> Date: 16 Mar 99 14:38:56 +0000 From: "RCOLE.UK.ORACLE.COM" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A New Dawn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Oracle InterOffice (version 4.1.2.12.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA16768 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, here is a a golden opportunity to take part in the tour at a high level with a brand new team. We have been playing together for 5 months indoors and are looking to make the leap to outdoors. We currently have players who have been playing from 7 months to 4+ years experience. We currently have a squad of 10, but are looking for some more committed, hardworking players who want to play to a top 8 standard in the tour, and who are based in the South/Mid East. The team will train in or around the Milton Keynes area as often as possible, starting with a inaugural training session on Sunday 28th March at 11am. All standards are welcome to come along and practice, as long as they are prepared to put in the effort to improve both their Ultimate and their fitness in time for Tour 1. Please note that if you are a fair-weathered pansy who is scarred of a bit of wind and rain after Schmindoors season, please don't bother, as we are looking for players who will be committed to the team, and not give up as soon as they feel the first rain drop break on their skin, or the wind ruffle their hair. If you are still interested, please contact myself, Rob Cole, on 0118 924 4873 any time, or Colin Eagles on 01908 674299 after office hours, as soon as possible, and we will give you details of our practice, or find the Wyld Stallyns at the indoors in Cheltenham. Please feel free to bring along any colleagues, but please bear in mind this will be a serious practice. See you all soon, Rob Cole ***************************************************************************** Robert Cole Tel: 0118 924 4873 Associate Consultant Mobile: 0961 170 759 Enterprise Methods and Tools Internal Extn: 44873 Oracle UK Fax: 0118 924 5605 Building 530 Email: rcole@uk.oracle.com Thames Valley Park Reading, RG6 1RA ***************************************************************************** The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 15:55:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA04295 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:54:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04265 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:54:12 GMT Received: from hot.virtual-pc.com (hot.virtual-pc.com [194.217.102.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10251 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:54:12 GMT Received: from mcg.gla.ac.uk (e2c13p17.scotland.net [148.176.239.17]) by hot.virtual-pc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25658 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:59:04 GMT (envelope-from lucy@mcg.gla.ac.uk) Message-ID: <36EE7E38.96D7A855@mcg.gla.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 15:52:24 +0000 From: Lucy Smallwood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Britdisc Subject: Scottish Regionals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And here are the results from Scotland: Full Results in rank order: 1. Flying Sorcerors 1 2. Mud Culture 1 3. Mud Culture 2 4. Sneeekys 1 5. Ro Sham Bo 6. Mud Culture 3 7. Shooting Stars - Dundee (spirit, party prize, gimmick prize - pretty well swept the board really) 8. Petroleum - Aberdeen 9. Sneeekys 2 10. Flying Sorcerors 2 11. Mud Culture 4 Thanks to everyone who came along and made it a great tournament, and to all of the teams for turning up on time for their games, and not hassling me too much about the schedule. I think it was fun, but ask me when I recover. Because I'm lazy when it comes to scheduling, a last minute change in the number of teams from 12 to 11 resulted in empty slots being filled with a knockout hat tournament. Well done team 5 who overcame team 3 in a great final. I would say this was more hotly contested than the real final, but that would be doing Sorcerors 1 and Mud Culture 1 a disservice. The final game was well fought and looked exceedingly tiring. If anyone would like to comment further on the games, please be my guest. Qualifying teams are Sorceror's 1 Mud Culture 2 Sneeeky's 1 Shooting Stars Lucy, Mud Culture From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 20:27:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA24816 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:26:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24804 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:26:49 GMT Received: from fritz.st-andrews.ac.uk (fritz.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.24.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14717 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:26:48 GMT Received: from langs.st-andrews.ac.uk (kg8@langs [138.251.24.10]) by fritz.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13927 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:25:50 GMT Received: from localhost (kg8@localhost) by langs.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA02218 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:27:27 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:27:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Kevin Gates X-Sender: kg8@st-andrews.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Student Nationals Trophy In-Reply-To: <199903150858.IAA26388@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Will someone from this years Student National Indoor Championship winning team be at the Open National Indoors this weekend? We have your trophy and will bring it if we can give it to you or someone who can get it to you. You can contact me at this address or Jon Good if you know him. Cheers Kevin St. Andrews Flying Sorcerers PS - Well done!!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 16 22:01:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA06282 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:01:07 GMT Received: from primrose (ecumu@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA06276; Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:01:04 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 22:01:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Clements To: Kevin Gates cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Student Nationals Trophy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorcerers, We were actually given another trophy this year - a rather nice cup, if I can remember the hazy details of the alcohol fuelled trip back. We could always do with some more silverware, though. If you want to pass it on, I'll be at the nationals this weekend. Congratulations on winning the Scottish regional. Cheers, Percy Warwick Bears. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Kevin Gates wrote: > > Will someone from this years Student National Indoor Championship winning > team be at the Open National Indoors this weekend? We have your trophy > and will bring it if we can give it to you or someone who can get it to > you. You can contact me at this address or Jon Good if you know him. > > Cheers > > Kevin > St. Andrews Flying Sorcerers > > PS - Well done!!! > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 17 08:43:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA00521 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:42:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00507 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:42:28 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA03967 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:42:28 GMT Received: from [194.159.98.2] (helo=postcard.KSCL.COM) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10NBuD-000DRu-0C; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:42:25 +0000 Received: by POSTCARD.kscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:42:55 -0000 Message-ID: From: Fraser Macrae To: "'scotdisc@egroups.com'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: A new Sneeeky is born Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:42:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At 3:03am this morning 17th March, Leo James and Pam Tough are pleased to announce the birth of their new son, Keir, weighing in at 8lb 13oz. Both mother and baby are doing well. Leo's quote of the night "He's gorgeous, and going to break some hearts, so lock up your daughters!" Fraser (Sneeeky's) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 17 10:38:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22252 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:35:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22239 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:35:28 GMT From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21703 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:35:27 GMT Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:35:18 +0000 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:35:17 -0000 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FCD1@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Anglian News Coverage Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:35:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As some of you know, Anglia News came along to the Miton Keynes regional on Saturday, taped interviews with myself and some Cambridge players and filmed a few games. The report was broadcast on Monday night around 18:00hrs. Apparently I look quite good with the extra ten pounds so am making a concerted effort to binge eat. I didn't see the footage but according to an Ultimate virgin we came across really well, and the game looked "quite sporty". We didn't get into the weekend's "sporting roundup" but rest assured we were at least ten minutes and a commercial break before the "recorder competition" and the "lambing season", and only just after a "stabbing". I deduce from watching Drop The Dead Donkey that this is a fairly prominent position and will have commanded much more attention than the snotty eight year old girls blowing down sticks for fun. My friend Jermey will pull some strings and try to get us a slot on Newsnight for this weekend. No promises, of course..... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 17 14:06:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA25532 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:59:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25293 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:58:52 GMT Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27979 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:19:44 GMT Message-Id: <199903171219.MAA27979@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:12:17 -0000 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc , Jim Unwin , SUPERFLY LIST , David Unwin , staff Subject: publicity Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:19:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ultimate will be featured on East Midlands today at 1.30 and 6.30. The feature concentrates, I hope, on Ultimate being offered as a part of the HND Sports Science at Grantham College. Lets hope for some good coverage. Central TV News will be doing a similar spot on Friday. PU From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 17 14:21:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA02152 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:19:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16456 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:35:50 GMT Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA00890 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:17:28 GMT Received: (qmail 31990 invoked from network); 17 Mar 1999 12:17:25 -0000 Received: from dyn170-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.170) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 17 Mar 1999 12:17:25 -0000 Message-ID: <36EF9CF7.C1A360AB@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:15:51 +0100 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc Subject: Ultilinks Chat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all. We just added a chat room to Ultilinks, for you to meet other players from the other side of the World. It's at http://www.ultilinks.com/chat/ Since it's a freeware Java applet we're still beta-testing it, but if everthing works fine we will link it to the rest of the site soon. Enjoy! Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 17 14:25:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA03522 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:25:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17139 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:37:51 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03386 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:37:47 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:47:04 -0000 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000000FA9@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Simon Salt To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: For attention of BUF Publicity/sport development/women's officer - everyone else can delete Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:46:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi I didn't know how else to contact you other than through Britdisc. I have come across an article concerning getting girls into sport. This is an excerpt: Girls do not share boys' enthusiasm for sport and most stop taking part as soon as they can, a new report shows. Based on new research which shows that nearly 40% of girls do not want to play sport, the Girls in Sport Partnership, a joint initiative by Nike UK and the Youth Sport Trust, aims to stop them dropping out of sport by changing the way sport and physical education are organised at school. The partnership is working with 52 schools across the country to test radical new ways of providing physcial education and sport for girls. One way in which it is hoping to do this is by bringing local sports clubs to the school to let girls try different sports and by establishing school sports councils to give girls more input into the physical education programme. The full article can be found at the ITN website url: (http://www.itn.co.uk/Britain/brit19990317/031703.htm?DTN) Might be a way of promoting Ultimate a little further. Cheers Simon (Sneeeky's) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 17 16:06:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25003 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:05:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24994 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:05:08 GMT Received: from otto.crispgroup.co.uk (crispgroup.demon.co.uk [158.152.87.155]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA29667 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:05:00 GMT Received: from [129.1.1.241] by otto.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.aia2) with ESMTP id za086293 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:58:12 +0000 Received: from [129.1.11.103] by homer.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0012/1.aia2) with ESMTP id ta057375 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:02:27 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:02:21 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE708F.8A102260.Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk> From: Ben Ravilious To: "'simon.salt@company-net.co.uk'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Nike girls in sport Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:02:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: Crisp Computing Mail Server Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Simon (& Britdisc), FYI, we (the BUF) were approached several months ago by pentathlete Mary Peters on behalf of Nike and have responded enthusiatically to this initiative. Hopefully they might showcase us as a model mixed sport. On the other hand it may just be hype. Who knows. Fingers crossed! We'll let you know what happens... Ben BUF Secretary (PS PLEASE DONT REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS AS IT WILL BE OBSELETE AS OF FRIDAY - USE bravil@webleicester.co.uk OR buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) From: Simon Salt To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: For attention of BUF Publicity/sport development/women's officer- everyone else can delete Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 13:46:56 -0000 Hi I didn't know how else to contact you other than through Britdisc. I have come across an article concerning getting girls into sport. This is an excerpt: Girls do not share boys' enthusiasm for sport and most stop taking part as soon as they can, a new report shows. Based on new research which shows that nearly 40% of girls do not want to play sport, the Girls in Sport Partnership, a joint initiative by Nike UK and the Youth Sport Trust, aims to stop them dropping out of sport by changing the way sport and physical education are organised at school. The partnership is working with 52 schools across the country to test radical new ways of providing physcial education and sport for girls. One way in which it is hoping to do this is by bringing local sports clubs to the school to let girls try different sports and by establishing school sports councils to give girls more input into the physical education programme. Cheers Simon (Sneeeky's) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 18 09:44:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA03260 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:20:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02821 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:20:02 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00935 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:51:48 GMT Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10NOE6-00087X-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:51:47 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:43:46 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I Entry - rules interpretation + chaser MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Entry Fees for Tour I (Hitchin 10+11 April 1999) MUST be posted. - 1st Class on Thursday, LATEST!!! to make the Closing Date. Layout Dreams will NOT be accepting cheques at Indoor Nationals (it's not fair on the teams that won't be there!) Tour Entry - Rules interpretation: For Event I: New year, Event I - the "top 16" get no favouritism on entry. Deposits (15.00 to BUF c/o Dora Kemp) get you onto the Tour Waiting List (TWL); Entry Fees (80.00 to Layout Dreams c/o Wayne Retter) received BEFORE Closing Date (20 March 1999) moves you from the TWL to the Tournament; - if space becomes an issue for Entry Fees received *before Closing Date*, TWL order kicks in to determine acceptance. i.e. If the tournament holds 32 teams, and we get 36 Entry Fees before Closing Date, the TWL (i.e. Deposit payment) will determine acceptance/refusal. Teams on the TWL for whom Entry Fees have NOT been received before Closing Date MAY (but NOT necessarily "will") get chased, but there's no guarantees of anything; - The withdrawal penalties start kicking in now. Having said that here's a chaser for the following who've paid their BUF deposits, but I've not yet received Entry Fees: Bliss; Whiplash; Chevron Action Flash; Gael Force; Nightfever; Entry forms (Microsoft Word documents) are available from http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u99tour1/invite.doc or by sending an email to: wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk subject: request tour invite body: [don't bother, I'm not going to read it!] Entry Fees received AFTER Closing Date move you from TWL to the Tournament on a "first-come-first-served" basis; - if space becomes an issue for Entry Fees received *on the same day*, TWL order kicks in to determine acceptance. There's now a (very basic) tournament website at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u99tour1/index.htm Cheers Wayne Retter _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 18 15:45:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05776 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:04:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05467 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:03:04 GMT Received: from otto.crispgroup.co.uk (crispgroup.demon.co.uk [158.152.87.155]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA01519 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:22:44 GMT Received: from [129.1.1.241] by otto.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.aia2) with ESMTP id ga086664 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:16:09 +0000 Received: from [129.1.11.103] by homer.crispgroup.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0012/1.aia2) with ESMTP id aa057538 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:20:16 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:20:10 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE7131.48C72720.Ben.Ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk> From: Ben Ravilious To: "'Britdisc'" , "'BUF Listbot'" Subject: Important: Obsolete Email Address Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 11:20:09 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: Crisp Computing Mail Server Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Please note that as of tomorrow (Friday 19th March) you will no longer be able to contact me via this email address (ben.ravilious@crispgroup.co.uk). >From now on please use the following address for personal correspondence with me: bravil@webleicester.co.uk The following two addresses remain active for correspondence with the BUF and my team (Red) respectively buf@ultimateweb.co.uk red@ultimateweb.co.uk Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary PS apologies for duplication/cross-posting of this message From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 18 16:17:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA08975 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:12:06 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08917 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:11:09 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19843 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:11:08 GMT Received: from 97315250 by brookes.ac.uk (8.8.7/) id PAA02046; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:11:05 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 15:11:05 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199903181511.PAA02046@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoor Finals Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am looking to pick up with a team to play at Cheltenham this weekend - does anybody need an extra player? Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 18 17:25:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13718 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:54:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12978 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:53:07 GMT Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06065 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:52:54 GMT Received: from whallida.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA23212; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:52:35 GMT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:51:57 -0000 Message-ID: From: Will Halliday Reply-To: "whalliday@rmplc.net" To: "'Layout Dreams'" , BritDisc Subject: RE: Tour I Entry - rules interpretation + chaser Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:52:58 -0000 Organization: rmplc X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies for hi- jack- short notice type request Can someone (maybe Sean?!) please send me Sean Young's home and business tel number Ta Will -----Original Message----- From: Layout Dreams [SMTP:LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 9:44 PM To: BritDisc Subject: Tour I Entry - rules interpretation + chaser Entry Fees for Tour I (Hitchin 10+11 April 1999) MUST be posted. - 1st Class on Thursday, LATEST!!! to make the Closing Date. Layout Dreams will NOT be accepting cheques at Indoor Nationals (it's not fair on the teams that won't be there!) Tour Entry - Rules interpretation: For Event I: New year, Event I - the "top 16" get no favouritism on entry. Deposits (15.00 to BUF c/o Dora Kemp) get you onto the Tour Waiting List (TWL); Entry Fees (80.00 to Layout Dreams c/o Wayne Retter) received BEFORE Closing Date (20 March 1999) moves you from the TWL to the Tournament; - if space becomes an issue for Entry Fees received *before Closing Date*, TWL order kicks in to determine acceptance. i.e. If the tournament holds 32 teams, and we get 36 Entry Fees before Closing Date, the TWL (i.e. Deposit payment) will determine acceptance/refusal. Teams on the TWL for whom Entry Fees have NOT been received before Closing Date MAY (but NOT necessarily "will") get chased, but there's no guarantees of anything; - The withdrawal penalties start kicking in now. Having said that here's a chaser for the following who've paid their BUF deposits, but I've not yet received Entry Fees: Bliss; Whiplash; Chevron Action Flash; Gael Force; Nightfever; Entry forms (Microsoft Word documents) are available from http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u99tour1/invite.doc or by sending an email to: wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk subject: request tour invite body: [don't bother, I'm not going to read it!] Entry Fees received AFTER Closing Date move you from TWL to the Tournament on a "first-come-first-served" basis; - if space becomes an issue for Entry Fees received *on the same day*, TWL order kicks in to determine acceptance. There's now a (very basic) tournament website at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u99tour1/index.htm Cheers Wayne Retter _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 18 19:04:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA16369 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:02:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16356 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:02:44 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from polaris.wat (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22964 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:02:43 GMT Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (unverified) by polaris.wat (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:02:29 +0000 Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0002E048; Thu, 18 Mar 99 19:02:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 19:02:01 +0000 Message-Id: <0002E048.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: IMPORTANT - Accomodation @ Indoor Nationals To: BritDisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk INDOOR NATIONALS in Cheltenham Chris has been informed of the following: Hunters' Lodge (Cheltenham Racecourse) is now FULL YMCA is now FULL for BOTH Friday AND Saturday nights... You need to start looking for 'proper' B+Bs or Hotels, unless you've already got something booked. Chris is attempting to check out whether another option is now available, but it wasn't last time we asked, so don't hold your breath... You have been warned.... Wayne Retter Layout Dreams ________________________________________________________________ Notice of Confidentiality This transmission is intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error please contact: ~admin@watsonwyatt.co.uk or IT Manager: +44(0)1737 241144 Fax: +44(0)1737 241496 _________________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 18 20:21:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA28167 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:20:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA28155 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:20:18 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00359 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:20:18 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-026.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.26]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA22959 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:16:02 GMT Message-ID: <017801be717c$df4866a0$1aa492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Red Outdoors - Teams In Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:17:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk So far, the following teams are in the Red Outdoors: Red 1 Red 2 UTI Catch 22 First Touch MMJ PDQ BAF 1 BAF 2 Bliss SOUP (New Scottish team) Cupid Stunts Stan (blimey!) There are loads of other teams out there who I know wanted to attend but we need to know numbers NOW. Chevron? Druids? Headrush? Kniggets? Slipdisc? Superfly? Strange Blue? If your cheque book is a bit tired from all the BUF/Tour stuff then please at least contact me to let me know you still intend to come. Thanks Ben Ravilious 0116 2559638 ====================================================================== RED OUTDOORS – TOUR ‘TUNE-UP’ 27/28TH MARCH 1999 24 TEAMS MAX – NEW VENUE – NIGHT CLUB PARTY – RED ORGANISATION £90 CHEQUES PAYABLE TO ‘RED ULTIMATE CLUB’ RED OUTDOORS LEICESTER ULTIMATE CLUB PO BOX 1075 LEICESTER LE2 1YQ *IMPORTANT*: PLEASE GIVE A REALISTIC IDEA OF A) HOW MANY TICKETS YOUR TEAM WILL REQUIRE FOR THE CLUB. B) HOW MANY PLAYERS WILL NEED A FLOOR TO CRASH ON. ENQUIRIES: BEN RAVILIOUS 0116 2559638 red@ultimateweb.co.uk ===> STOP ARSING ABOUT INDOORS AND PLAY THE GAME <=== (N.B. Due to lack of time we will only be posting invites to those teams who do not have email. Please therefore accept this as your offical invite!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 19 00:02:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA22023 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:13:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22011 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:13:46 GMT Received: from taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk (taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.48]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24071 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:13:45 GMT Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 10NZo7-0004FD-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:13:44 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 10:15:00 +0000 Subject: Scott Rose From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anybody out there send me Scott Rose's email address and home phone number. His university team is Reservoir Fish in Lancaster. Thanks Dora Kemp Whatever does good should be held in honour, and the only shame is in doing harm - Plato McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 20 19:50:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA22349 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:48:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22341; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:48:29 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25153; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:48:28 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-037.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.37]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA04023; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 19:43:15 GMT Message-ID: <004c01be730a$c34e2c20$25a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: BUF Subs: Payments Received Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:33:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, The following teams have either settled up or have at least contacted me about their subscription to the British Ultimate Federation:- ALIEN NATION, ANGELS, BEARS, BLISS, BLUE ARSE FLIES, BRUNEL FALCONS, CATCH 22, CHEVRON ACTION FLASH, DISCIPLES, DOUGH BOY, FALLING SKIES, FAR FLUNG, FIFTH ELEMENT, FINGERS 6, FIRST TOUCH, FLUID DRUIDS, G-SPOTS, GAEL FORCE, HEADINGTON HORRORS, I'LL HAVE A D PLEASE BOB, JEDI CHILDREN, JESTERS, K-NIGGETS, LOOK AT ME, LURKERS, MAD KOWS, MILD MANNERED JANITORS, MOHAWKS, MUD CULTURE, MWNCI SEE, NIGHT FEVER, PDQ, PHAT 'EDS, PICNIC IN THE SKY, POOKAS, RED, RESERVOIR FISH, RO-SHAM-BO, SHARKS, SHOTGUN, SKUNKS, SLIPDISC, SNEEEKY'S, SOUP, SOURCE, SOUTHAMPTON INSTITUTE, STRANGE BLUE, SUPERFLY, TATTVA RATS, THE FLYING SQUAD, TOXIC NINJA ATTACK, TWIN PEAKS, UNDER COVER LOVERS, URIEL, WHIPLASH, WYLD STALLIONS, YORKIE BAR KIDS The following teams have not paid and have not contacted me. If you belong to one of these, please at least get in contact so we know what is happening. If your team is having difficulties then PLEASE get in contact - we may be able to help. If you are not sure whether your team needs to pay, again please get back to me so that we can sort you out. Otherwise I will phone you for an explanation. NEW GUILDFORD TEAM, ALBATROSS, ASHTEAD DRAGONS, BANGOR UNIVERSITY, BIZARRE GARDENING ACCIDENT, CHAOS, CHARNWOOD SUNZ, CUPID STUNTS, DANE RAIDERS, DISC GRACEFUL, DISCO INFERNO, DISCPRAXIC DRAGONS, DISCULT, DUMP FRENZY, EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY WOMENS, ESSEX UNIVERSITY, FICKLED FINGERS, FLYING SORCERERS, FUBAR, GB JUNIOR TEAM, HEADRUSH, HIGH PIE, HINT OF LIME, HULLTIMATE, HURRICANES, MORE THAN JUST A HINT, MORPHINE LOGIC, MR MEN, MYTHAGO, NADS, NO FRILLS, NONE OF THE ABOVE, NORTHERN LIGHTS, ORGANICS, OW!, PLAYTHINGS, PURPLE HAZE, SCHOOL TEAM - NEWCASTLE, SHOOTING STARS, SHREWSBURY, SOUTHERN LIGHTS, SPUD GUN, ST PETERS HIGH SCHOOL EXETER, STAFFORDSHIRE UNIVERSITY, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TWO MILE ASH MIDDLE SCHOOL, UNDER THE INFLUENCE, UNIVERSITY OF WALES INSTITUTE CARDIFF, UWE, VICIOUS CIRCLE, VILLAGE PEOPLE, VIOLENTLY HAPPY, WOLFSON ULTIMATE, WOMEN IN BLACK, ZEBEDEES Thanks Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 20 21:44:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA29339 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:43:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29334 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:43:50 GMT From: m02e6r00@cwcom.net Received: from cwcom.net (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.153] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28090 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:43:49 GMT Received: from cwcom.net ([195.44.14.194]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.167.16); Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:44:25 +0000 Message-ID: <36F4176E.F33563C7@cwcom.net> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:47:26 +0000 Reply-To: jt-cam@cwcom.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Any players near Carlisle?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have recently moved up to Carlisle and as far as I can tell there are no teams in the area. Is there anyone out there who lives around here who'd be interested in forming a new team, or just chucking a disc around some weekends? Catherine Moore (ex. Phat 'Eds/Jedi etc) p.s. Cheers Rachel, I enjoyed the women's practice! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 20 21:52:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA29903 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:52:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29898 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:52:15 GMT Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28350 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:52:15 GMT Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #2) id 10OTfB-0001bf-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:52:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 21:50:40 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline Fonseka Subject: London 20th March, Tournament Report MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all the teams who made it out to Regent's Park for the first Friendly Fires. By all reports it was enjoyed by most everyone. The tournament format was aimed at giving each team the opportunity to play as many games with as many other teams as possible, and with three pitches and eight teams I hope everyone got at least three games under their belts. The two teams that finished undefeated were Brunel and Dough Boy, the latter being a newly formed team of Antipodean players. Under Cover Lovers were in fear of not having enough players to field a team but beefed themselves up with some skilled pickup players to come away with a 2-1 win-loss for the day. First Touch also won their first two games against the extremely colorful G Spots and K-niggets before going down in a hard fought battle to Dough Boy. K-niggets played extremely hard and won the distinction of playing the most games of the day (four) and having the most players stretchered off the pitch (two, I think). Honorable mentions go to Albatross and Imperial College whose top spirit help make the day a great day out for everyone. Friendly Fires was set up to give London teams a chance to play each other and to make some new friends. The ethos behind the tournament was for good spirit matches with lots of friendly competition. on those counts the day was a complete success. So much so that there is talk of having another Friendly Fires sometime in late May or early June. Early enough so that students will still be in London and late enough to their exams are out of the way. The proposed format will be that of a Hat Tournament to allow people to play even though they do not have a full team or a team at all! The dates being discussed are the last weekend of May (29-30) or the first weekend of June (5-6). Venue and party plans will be worked out along the way. Even though we are looking at London players mainly, London is central and accessible enough to make it viable for Brighton, Reading and other players in the immediate vicinity of Greater London to make an appearance. If you think this is a good idea, please reply to this email address with an expression of interest and with Friendly Fires in the subject line. There might be a small entrance fee to cover tournament costs but it will be a teeny tiny one, promise. Thanks again to everyone who made it out on the 20th. It was great to play with you. Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers PS to clear up the confusion, Adeline Fonseka is my wife and I don't know how to get rid of her signature from all my emails, so there! :) -- Adeline Fonseka From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 20 23:49:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA06146 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:48:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06136 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:48:25 GMT Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.24]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA00919 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:48:24 GMT Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA07417 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:48:23 GMT Received: from lr2.pub.brad.ac.uk (cerose@richC8lr2.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.151]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA29326 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:51:47 GMT From: Claire Rose To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Women's Outdoors - Leeds 14/3 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:48:21 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can somebody please drop me a line to let me know what went on last weekend at the women's outdoor session as I'm really interested but couldn't get along myself? Cheers, Claire. ****************************************************************** * Claire Rose * C.E.Rose@bradford.ac.uk * University of Bradford * * Final year Chemistry with Pharmaceutical and Forensic Science * ** UBU Women's Officer Elect * Bradford Disciples Ultimate Team ** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 07:48:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA06682 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:47:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA06677 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA24707 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA05664 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:47:02 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:47:02 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199903220747.HAA05664@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 27th March 1999 BDGA Golf: Bristol Spring Fling (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Red Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Leicester Ultimate Club (Red) Address PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ Email red@ultimateweb.co.uk Phone 0116 2559638 (Ben Ravilious) Saturday 10th April 1999 BDGA Golf: Quarry Park Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Tour I (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th April 1999 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Bennison Email pbennison@sepro.ie Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 09:21:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13910 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:19:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13904 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:19:17 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23565 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:19:16 GMT Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10P0rX-000286-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:19:12 +0000 Message-ID: <2zmUwDAypY92Ewso@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:10:26 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: BUF Indoor Nationals 1999 - Results MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BUF INDOOR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS 20+21 March 1999 Cheltenham. 1) Huge apologies to the teams for the TD discovery, at about 2.30pm n saturday, that the Trophy Shop from which the trophies were to be collected actually closed at 1.00 pm... IOUs were issued for Divisional Winners, Runners Up, MVP and SOTG. Luckily, Colin 'If you ever see me at an Indoor Tournament, please send me home (PS: These are my views and do not necessarily reflect the views of my team)' Wagstaff did arrive with the 'real' Champions Trophy. 2) In traditional reverse order... 24 [Shooting Stars? Default for non-appearance] 23 Uriel 22 Mud Culture 21 Jedi Children 20 Take Phat 19 Phatfly 18 Whiplash 17 Sneeekys - SPOON 16 Phat Eds 15 Picnic 14 Skunks 13 I'll have a D, please, Bob 12 BOB (Bradford Old Boys) 11 Wyld Stallyns 10 Nightfever 9 Mr Men - PLATE 8 Look at Me 7 Flying Sourcerors 6 Strange Blue 5 UTI 4 Bears 3 Chevron Action Flash 2 Fluid Druids MVP: Jackie Robins (nee Potter), Fluid Druids 1 Blue Arse Flies SPIRIT OF THE GAME: Flying Sourcerors Wayne Retter Layout Dreams _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 10:39:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA25118 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:38:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25108 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:38:42 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01993 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:38:41 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-003.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.3]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA25933 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:33:56 GMT Message-ID: <002601be7450$4c4a5c60$03a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Red Outdoors Map Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:38:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you coming to the Leicester Outdoors, a map is available at http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/redmap.doc This is in Word 97 format. I will put this plus full tournament details in the post on Tuesday night for all teams who are attending. In all probability it will be a 9am captains meeting with a 9:30am start. PLEASE NOTE: This is a new venue - we are NOT using Victoria Park. Thanks Ben (0116 2559638) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 11:59:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06767 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:57:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06753 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:57:55 GMT Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.2.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14112 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:57:53 GMT Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA12635 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:57:47 GMT Received: from lr41.pub.brad.ac.uk (rslack@richj31lR41.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.133]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA23557 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 12:01:11 GMT From: richard slack Reply-To: R.Slack@Bradford.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: 19th June: The Ultimate Day Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:57:43 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA06754 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Calling all... A sponsored 6am - 10pm day of ultimate is planned for Hyde Park, Leeds on Saturday 19th June in aid of the Marie Curie Cancer Care Trust. A team fee of £20 plus money from individual sponsorship forms should raise a fair bit of cash and provide a bit of publicity before the Worlds. The park is free so everything can go to Marie Curie. If there are any teams (or individuals for pick-up) that would like to come up to Leeds for it, could you contact me ASAP so that sponsorship forms can be sent out in enough time. There are plenty of pubs around the park to cool down and the city is in walking distance. If you can't make it yourself, please pass on the message to other club members - it should be a giggle. We've even got a band of travelling ultimate players coming up from Portsmouth for it (nice one) so I hope some northern teams can sign up to save our blushes! Cheers, Rich. ---------------------- Richard Slack Bradford Disciples Tel: (01274)732078. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 15:20:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA09329 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:19:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09318 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:19:16 GMT Received: from neodymium (neodymium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.83]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08098 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:19:15 GMT Received: from host62-172-62-59.btinternet.com ([62.172.62.59] helo=mail.btinternet.com) by neodymium with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10P6S3-0002VO-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:17:16 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: Clubs 99 - women and masters From: Laura Pearce To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:17:16 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have been informed by Charlie Mead that there is an extra slot in the women's division which has been offered to us. He needs to know VERY QUICKLY whether we want this slot or not. Does anyone want it/think they can fill it? Also, Masters - can someone please let me know what is going on and whether there will be at least one team registered before the deadline on 7th April. Many thanks Laura Pearce BUF National Director From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 22 17:49:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02075 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:47:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02066 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:47:57 GMT Received: from kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk (kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk [130.209.192.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06409 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:47:56 GMT Received: from mcg.gla.ac.uk (jim-pc [130.209.192.55]) by kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12211 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:41:19 GMT Message-ID: <36F68249.17E7306@mcg.gla.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:47:53 +0000 From: Lucy Smallwood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Britdisc Subject: Pickups at Red outdoors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone need pickups for Red Outdoors this weekend? Two Mud Culture players - myself and Ed Coates are keen to play. To respond use email: lucy@mcg.gla.ac.uk or tel: 0141 353 0890 Lucy, Mud Culture From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 00:10:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA08210 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:09:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08204 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:09:29 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA21603 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:09:28 GMT Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10PEl4-0006sl-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:09:26 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 00:08:36 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: BUF Tour 1999 - Event I - Hitchin MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As at Monday 22 March 1999 we've received 30 entries, and all bar one have been confirmed as having paid their deposits too (!) Two more would make the format near perfect, so... GO ON, you know you want to! Maps, and suchlike, should be in the post by the weekend (and hopefully on the website tomorrow night), and I'll try to bring a few spare sets to Leicester... In the meantime: - the Priory School is on the Bedford Road north of Hitchin, before Ickleford. - Hitchin railway station (East of the Town Centre) is about 3 miles from the venue, so you may wish to consider taxis or bicycles in your travel planning. Reminder: you need to sort out your own accomodation! - On site Camping is available both Friday and Saturday nights. - It may be worth booking hotels/B+Bs sooner rather than later, we're not sure how many there are, what they cost, and how far (walk or drive) they are from the School. Party Warning: Ickleford (the village nearest the venue) and Hitchin (the local town) are NOT the liveliest places in the world, and there is no formal social event planned - we'll be warning the local pubs (esp. The Green Man in Ickleford) that they may be busy, but that will be about it... any questions? Wayne Layout Dreams layoutdreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk (evenings) tourny website http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u99tour1/ Teams entered: UTI; Catch 22; The Mild Mannered Janitors; First Touch; Skunks; Mohawk Mwnci Magic; Phat 'Eds; Fluid Druids; Blue Arse Flies 1; Blue Arse Flies 2; Twin Peaks; Strange Blue; Headrush; Oxford Sharks; Albatross; Red; S.O.U.P.; Dough Boy; Hurricane; Jedi; Bliss; Nightfever; Whiplash; Chevron Action Flash; Slipdisc; Fingers 6; K-Niggets; Gael Force; Wyld Stallyns; Smudge _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 10:45:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA04780 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:43:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04770 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:43:26 GMT Received: from prontomail10.prontomail.com (prontomail10.prontomail.com [209.185.149.110]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10946 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:43:17 GMT Received: from jamiecrick (209.185.149.202) by prontomail10.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 02:42:28 -0800 From: "Jamie Crick" Message-Id: <199903230242232@jamiecrick.excite.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:43:51 +0000 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: University of Surrey contact X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Can anyone give me the e-mail address of the guy with the Surrey Uni team? Thanks for your help. Jamie --------------------------------------------- Jamie Crick 100 Kings Court Parnell Street Dublin 1 Eire Tel: +353 (0)1 878 6684 This E-mail brought to you by Excite's free E-mail service. Get your own E-mail address at http://www.excite.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 11:12:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA08968 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:10:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08958 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:10:40 GMT Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24299 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:10:39 GMT Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 10PP4v-0000Uc-00; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:10:37 +0000 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:05:34 +0000 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Looking for Sorcerers contact ... Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:09:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be751d$acfee580$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anybody from St. Andrews drop me a line? Thanks. Peter Pookas, Dublin Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 23 12:47:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23196 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:43:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23191 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:43:35 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05086 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:43:34 GMT Received: from [143.167.79.248] (helo=digley.shef.ac.uk) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10PQWm-0002SS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:43:29 +0000 Received: from DIGLEY/SpoolDir by digley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 23 Mar 99 12:43:28 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by DIGLEY (Mercury 1.43); 23 Mar 99 12:43:19 +0000 From: "K.A.Guard" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 12:43:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Phat 'eds Allstars @ Ross X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We at Phat 'eds have been discussing the possibilty of getting a reunion team of Phat 'eds current and old to play at Ross-on-wye this year. We'll be contacting those of you who we've got numbers for but if you've ever played for Phat 'eds, particularly if you were there at the very beginning, and you're interested in playing (provisionally - no committment yet) then we'd love to hear from you. Either email this address or ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk Cheers, Karl. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 24 15:59:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA21721 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:57:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21715 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:57:47 GMT Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03004 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:57:46 GMT Received: from dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.200]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10Pq2L-0000C2-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:57:45 +0000 Received: from DUNDEE-AS/SpoolDir by dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 24 Mar 99 15:56:20 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-AS (Mercury 1.44); 24 Mar 99 15:56:16 +0 From: "Steve Morrish" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:56:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Cheltenham X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi! This e-mail is to apologise to all the teams and individuals who were involved in the British National Open Finals in Cheltenham last weekend. I am the captain of the Shooting Stars Ultimate team, and I wish to apologise for our failure to either show up, or confirm that we would be unable to attend. I am deeply sorry that we could not attend what was surely one of the biggest events on the British Ultimate calendar. A combination of bad timing, and extremely bad luck, meant that although we wanted to attend, and would have been extremely proud to represent Scotland in some small capacity, we were unable to do so. I would hope that my actions over the past week do not reflect badly on either the Shooting Stars team, or Scottish Ultimate as a whole. Captaincy is a learning curve for me, but courtesy is not. Not only was it rude of me not to confirm, but it also caused a great deal of unneccessary hassle for the organisers. I would also like to apologise to Janitors, who were not given the opportunity to take our place and compete in the event. I hope that this unfortunate turn of events will not stop teams from inviting Shooting Stars to tournaments and events in the future. I assure you that this was a one off, and will never happen again. I look forward to meeting and seeing you all in the future, where I can apologise in person, rather than via e-mail. Once again, sorry for all the inconvenience caused. Yours, Steve Morrish Captain, Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 24 22:18:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00823 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:16:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA00813 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:16:47 GMT Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA21881 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:16:46 GMT Received: from modem-36.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.1.36] helo=default) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Pvx6-0002BO-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:16:45 +0000 Message-ID: <003a01be7643$a87e79e0$2401883e@default> From: "Lewis" To: Subject: Pick ups for Leicester Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:11:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE7643.51BD4F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE7643.51BD4F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 If anyone is interested in playing at Leicester with an improving new = team please get in contact. A lift maybe possible as well (depending on location obviously) From=20 Loopy. =20 loopy@pdq-ultimate.freeserve.co.uk =20 or 01705 791274 (if I'm not in speak to Aidan) ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE7643.51BD4F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BE7643.51BD4F00-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 01:25:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA13934 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:24:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA13928 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:24:12 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA28012 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:24:12 GMT Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10PysU-0006g0-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:24:11 +0000 Message-ID: <+8S93DANAZ+2EwEr@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:23:25 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I - Hitchin MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There are now some directions and maps on the website at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u99tour1/ These are due to follow in the post in the not too distant future... Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 10:57:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15363 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:55:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15352 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:55:25 GMT From: Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com Received: from soolin.barclayscapital.com (hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA01384 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:55:19 GMT Received: from hermes.barclayscapital.com ([141.228.4.66]) by soolin.barclayscapital.com via smtpd (for [172.30.34.74]) with SMTP; 25 Mar 1999 10:55:19 UT Received: from finn.barclaycapital.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.barclayscapital.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA02252 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:55:47 GMT Received: from mailhost.barclayscapital.com by finn.barclaycapital.net via smtpd (for hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) with SMTP; 25 Mar 1999 10:54:46 UT Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Message-Id: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Any Londoners need a lift to Leicester ? Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:49:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've got room for two or three more in my car. Going up Saturday morning from Fulham, A5 then M1. Give me a call / e-mail if you need a lift. Mark 0171 773 7255 (work) 0958 903212 (mob) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information about Barclays Capital, please visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group unless otherwise specifically stated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 13:59:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09048 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:53:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09037 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:53:11 GMT Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA27316 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:52:47 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-017.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.17]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA14136 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:47:29 GMT Message-ID: <006e01be76c6$e9a724c0$30a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Teams who face exclusion from BUF competitions Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:51:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A number of teams have still not paid their BUF subs or contacted us with an reasonable excuse. In particular, the following well-established teams have not responded. Please note that you are only days away from being barred from competing in events such as the Tour. BIZARRE GARDENING ACCIDENT, CHAOS, FLYING SORCERERS, PLAYTHINGS, PURPLE HAZE, VILLAGE PEOPLE. PLEASE get back to me and let me know what the problem is. If you play for one of these teams or know someone else who does please contact me. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 14:17:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA11812 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:12:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11807 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:12:50 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f72.hotmail.com [209.185.131.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA28593 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:12:48 GMT Received: (qmail 72723 invoked by uid 0); 25 Mar 1999 14:12:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990325141244.72722.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 159.15.128.11 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:12:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [159.15.128.11] From: "Alan Harding" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 1 - Hitchin' - Lost Player Needs New Home Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:12:43 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To All Teams (Entering Tour 1), I am looking for a team to pick up for, to go to all Tour Events except Edinburgh . If any teams needs extra players please email me ASAP. Stats: Years Played: 4 Current Team : I'll Have A 'D' Please Bob Ex Teams: Discult GB Juniors 3 Pint Challenge (Best): 32 sec Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 14:55:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA16611 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:49:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16599 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:49:02 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA00919 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:48:57 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 00033344; Thu, 25 Mar 99 14:48:35 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:46:55 +0000 Message-ID: <00033344.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Tour 1 - Hitchin' - Lost Player Needs New Home To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've had a couple of other individual players approach me with the "is there any chance I'll be able to pick up with someone?" query regarding Tour 1 at Hitchin. If there's enough "freelance" players around for Hitchin, why not consider entering an unrostered team? (I think we've got ONE space left in the tournament!) Picking up with teams is fine, so long as you (please) remember the Tour Rules... Rostered teams have ONE (and only one!) "guest" player slot PER TOURNAMENT, into which they may put either a) a completely unrostered (ie "freelance") player, or b) a player rostered for another team (but which isn't at that Event) Unrostered teams may consist of just about anyone, except players rostered to play for teams that are at the same Event. Students get special treatment... check out the Rules on the Tour website if this isn't making much sense... http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/ultim8/tour1999/ Cheers Wayne Retter ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Tour 1 - Hitchin' - Lost Player Needs New Home Author: "Alan Harding" Date: 25/03/99 14:12 To All Teams (Entering Tour 1), I am looking for a team to pick up for, to go to all Tour Events except Edinburgh . If any teams needs extra players please email me ASAP. Stats: Years Played: 4 Current Team : I'll Have A 'D' Please Bob Ex Teams: Discult GB Juniors 3 Pint Challenge (Best): 32 sec Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 15:19:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA20750 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:16:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20739 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:16:13 GMT Received: from mailhost.dircon.co.uk (mailhost.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28313 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:14:42 GMT Received: from [194.112.53.54] (th-en133-054.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.53.54]) by mailhost.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27159; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:14:23 GMT Subject: Re: Teams who face exclusion from BUF competitions Message-Id: <000000132263005219725@daletaylor.co.uk> From: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:15:25 +0000 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 2.9.8 Reply-To: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (BRITDISC), buf@ultimateweb.co.uk (British Ultimate Federation) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000013226==daletaylor.co.uk==__" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000013226==daletaylor.co.uk==__ Content-Type: application/fonttable; name="fonts" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AAAACAABADAGTW9uYWNv --__==========00000000013226==daletaylor.co.uk==__ Content-Type: application/styles; name="styles" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AAMAAAAAAAsACQABAAAACQAAAAAAAAAAArcACwAJAAEBAAAJAAAAAAAAAAACwgALAAkAAQAAAAkA AAAAAAA= --__==========00000000013226==daletaylor.co.uk==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, Mar 25, 1999, 1:51:58 pm GMT British Ultimate Federation wrote: >A number of teams have still not paid their BUF subs or contacted us with an >reasonable excuse. In particular, the following well-established teams have >not responded. Please note that you are only days away from being barred >from competing in events such as the Tour. > >BIZARRE GARDENING ACCIDENT, >CHAOS, >FLYING SORCERERS, >PLAYTHINGS, >PURPLE HAZE, >VILLAGE PEOPLE. > >PLEASE get back to me and let me know what the problem is. If you play for >one of these teams or know someone else who does please contact me. > >Thanks > >Ben Ravilious >BUF Secretary > > HOW MANY MORE TIMES?....... (This is the third!) BGA No Way! They were barely a team when they had a squad of 24 and there are currently too few members to form a team for solitaire. So bar BGA from the goddamn Olympics if you like! They've not been members of the BUF for at least three years to my knowledge. I don't really consider that a well-established team. N PS But I will be resurrecting something under the guise of BGA purely for the British Open so that no-one need come along expecting to lose every game! --------------------------------------- Nolan Taylor Dale Taylor Ltd Email: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: 01323 430700 Fax: 01323 430223 --------------------------------------- --__==========00000000013226==daletaylor.co.uk==__-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 25 17:34:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA20569 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:29:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20505 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:29:25 GMT Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA11219 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:29:15 GMT Received: (qmail 24326 invoked from network); 25 Mar 1999 17:29:08 -0000 Received: from dyn224-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.224) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 25 Mar 1999 17:29:08 -0000 Message-ID: <36FA71B1.946B40AA@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:26:09 +0100 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: BritDisc , "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" Subject: Ultilinks, new postcard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ciao all. Just a short note to annouce a new "X-Files" postcard we added to the Ultilinks Postcards Section for you to enjoy. It's made by Anzo (LaFotta Bologna) and it would make a nice poster in your room also. Check it out! Ultilinks, the Ultimate Starting Point is at http://www.ultilinks.com/ About 780 links and counting! See you all in Rimini (www.paganello.com), Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 09:33:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA13292 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:31:47 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA13277 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:31:38 GMT Received: from hgty.capgemini.co.uk (hgty.capgemini.co.uk [194.42.240.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28330 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:31:37 GMT Message-Id: <199903260926.JAA11783@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Received: forwarded by SMTP 3.0.11. From: "Bridle, Steven J" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'Iain Gibson'" Subject: Attention All Tour Teams...... Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 09:31:27 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------- I am looking to play in the tour this year but have no one to play for - my local team have not entered. Is there anyone who is looking for players? Taking into account the standard of my play I would be looking for a team would would realistically finish 12th -20th. I am in it for a laugh but will play hard for whoever I'm with and I'm willing to travel. If you are looking for players please contact me: Iain_Gibson@baa.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Steve Steven J. Bridle HP UNIX Support Team Technical Consultant: Cap Gemini UK plc. Internal: 783-3825 Fax: +44 (0)171-917-4303 > Voice: +44 (0)171-396-3825 > Email : steven.bridle@capgemini.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 12:16:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA13284 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:14:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13270 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:14:49 GMT Received: from ultra1.aber.ac.uk (ultra1.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.17]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15017 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:14:49 GMT Received: from pcfbcb.ccu.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.17.91] helo=pcfbcb) by ultra1.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.01 #4) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10QVVf-0003YR-00; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:14:47 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990326121620.008fca40@pophost.aber.ac.uk> X-Sender: jag6@pophost.aber.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:16:20 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: BISTO Subject: Sheffield Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA13273 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Morning, At the Indoor Open in Sheffield, one of our team manage to lose his sleeping bag...muppet! Its blue and quite good apparently. He really needs it back so if anyone found it, theres a £20 reward for its return. Cheers Bisto (mwnci See) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 13:34:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA23498 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:30:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA23488 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:30:46 GMT From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA25256 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:30:44 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 00033EA3; Fri, 26 Mar 99 13:30:22 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:30:09 +0000 Message-ID: <00033EA3.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Tour 1 - Hitchin' - Lost Player Needs New Home To: BritDisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Subject: Re: Tour 1 - Hitchin' - Lost Player Needs New Home Author: Gail Irvine Date: 26/03/99 13:08 Hi Wayne, this is Gail Irvine from the Kingston Kniggets university team. i could do with a couple of players for Hitchin as long as they aren't rostered for any one else. I'm not on the email for a couple of weeks, could you give them my number if they are interested. 0410 343 223 or 0181 942 8050 Cheers Gail From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 14:19:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA29563 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:15:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29557 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:15:38 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd109.hotmail.com [207.82.252.173]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA28482 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:15:31 GMT Received: (qmail 19455 invoked by uid 0); 26 Mar 1999 14:15:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990326141525.19454.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.206 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:15:24 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.206] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: 3rd Women's club slot for St. Andrews Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 06:15:24 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A third women's club slot has become available to Great Britain. So, if any women out there are interested in playing in St Andrews please contact me as soon as possible. I will be asking for an inital deposit of £100 to confirm you're interested and to pay for the team deposit (£1500) for the tournament If you know of any interested women that do not have email access I would be grateful if you would pass these details on, or pass their details onto me. Many Thanks Vanessa White (currently Blonde!) Vanessa White hm: 0181 663 4856 wk: 0171 616 4819 mb: 07970 903422 hm: Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk wk: nessa_white@hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 15:43:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA10375 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:39:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10364; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:39:30 GMT Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07282; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:39:29 GMT Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10QYUY-00027g-00; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:25:50 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 26 Mar 99 15:25:49 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 26 Mar 99 15:25:35 +0000 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 15:25:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <655092885@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, The Student Outdoors now has sixteen paid up entries, so I am expecting it to fill up by the first team deadline of next Saturday 3rd of April. Here are the sixteen paid up entries: Phat 'Eds Mythago Mohawks Jesters Disc Doctors No Frills Northern Lights Ow! PDQ Fish Ro-Sham-Bo Skunks Cupid Stunts Second Teams: Phat 'Eds II Mythago II Mohawks II If by next Saturday the tournament is not full then the three second teams (and any others I receive) will get into the tournament in the order given above. If you still want to come to the Student Outdoors, do not delay, get your entry sent today. Cheers, Si Weeks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 26 18:08:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA27731 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:07:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27721 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:07:44 GMT Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA19593 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:07:41 GMT Received: (qmail 14183 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 18:07:37 -0000 Received: from dyn184-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO paganello.com) (195.250.230.184) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 18:07:37 -0000 Message-ID: <36FBCC32.1A316CA@paganello.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:04:34 +0100 From: Jack La Palma X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "itadisc@egroups.com" , MP Ultimate , BritDisc Subject: [Fwd: [PAGANELLO999] C'mon and twist a little closer now] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0FC6A1036B61CEAA98DC7A56" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0FC6A1036B61CEAA98DC7A56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------0FC6A1036B61CEAA98DC7A56 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: peldi@mailbox.dsnet.it Received: (qmail 17018 invoked from network); 26 Mar 1999 18:04:30 -0000 Received: from dyn184-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO paganello.com) (195.250.230.184) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 26 Mar 1999 18:04:30 -0000 Message-ID: <36FBCB6B.B81334C3@paganello.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:01:15 +0100 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" Subject: [PAGANELLO999] C'mon and twist a little closer now Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hi all, The Paganello Chat Room Is OPEN Now!! 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(Jack La Palma) --------------0FC6A1036B61CEAA98DC7A56-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 28 21:59:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25136 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:57:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA25131 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:57:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from send102.yahoomail.com (send102.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA19292 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 21:57:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990328205823.3404.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.133.7.17] by send102.yahoomail.com; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:58:23 PST Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:58:23 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael O'Meara" Subject: Dublin Tourney? To: BritDisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since we are in a good position to win our own tourney, The Public relations people asked me to post the following message. We are going to win our tourney! and would like, teams from england wales and scotland and london to come to see this amazing feat take place. Contact Pete Bennison for a weekend of amazing sarcasm at pbennison@sepro.ie For available places. thanks to all the teams who are going to come over and try to get some great photos of the Pookas and the lovely towers of Ballymun. Respect Mike O'Meara _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 07:47:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA09026 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09021 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA01934 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA28338 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199903290647.HAA28338@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 10th April 1999 BDGA Golf: Quarry Park Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Tour I (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th April 1999 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Bennison Email pbennison@sepro.ie Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 11:35:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27267 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:34:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27260 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26270 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:33:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 10RZMk-0000zr-00; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:33:58 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:28:51 +0000 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Anybody from Reservoir Fish, Mud Culture, Cupid Stunts Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:33:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01be79cf$8470f8e0$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies for (another) annoying mail from across the water ... Please contact me re: your attendance at Dublin Tournie. P. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 15:22:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA23546 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:19:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23540 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:19:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA16727 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:19:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4772 invoked from network); 29 Mar 1999 14:19:47 -0000 Received: from userk882.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.72.204) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 1999 14:19:47 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be7981$ac1d5c60$cc4895c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Patch Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 01:49:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can Patch (GB Juniors coach) please get in touch with me. Cheers, Matt. Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 16:20:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA01063 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:17:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01018 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:16:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk [146.176.161.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27267 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:16:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from dcs.napier.ac.uk (pcg76d [146.176.161.65]) by poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00069; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:13:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <36FF994F.79DF47A6@dcs.napier.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:16:31 +0100 From: paul meaney Organization: Department of Computing, Napier University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-NECCK (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scotdisc@egroups.com CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: contact required for charlie mead Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, does anyone have Charile Mead's email or phone number? thanks, Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 17:04:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA08476 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:00:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08467 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:00:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f132.hotmail.com [209.185.131.195]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA29720 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:00:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 8874 invoked by uid 0); 29 Mar 1999 16:01:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990329160100.8873.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.125.22.112 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:00:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.125.22.112] From: "simon cocking" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Rimini Help, Simon -Dublin, pick Up? Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:00:15 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Brit disc world, only you can save be, or perhaps offer any suggestions, are there any uk teams going to rimini who would like another player, my original playing plans have gone down the pan for those of you who don't know me. blond hair, short, fast (ish) here's my friza cv, 1991 Mohawks, 1991 -3 Horizontal Hombres (Uk champs), 93 - 95 Miranda, also Bradford, Fingers, Catch 22, 95 -97 Chevron, 95 -99 coach/ player of Dublin Pookas, i've played Rimini b4, Harbour twice, European Indoors Stockholm - Playthings 97, and stuff ok, that's it, any interest let me know, cheers simonnnnn Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 29 22:51:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08486 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:50:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA08481 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:50:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12484 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:50:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10RjvR-0004dE-0C; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:50:30 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:49:30 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: peter.morgans@virgin.net From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Picnic's Tour I entry fee was waiting for me when I got home from Leicester (kudos to Red and Jesters for a fine weekend). That means (Hughes oh schedulemeister, pay attention!) we have 31 teams! Please, somebody, make our lives easier and the weekend more fun by entering another team! Cheerio Wayne PS: Tournament website is at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdream s/u99tour1/ and contains most of the information that hasn't yet gone in the post! (soon, I promise!) _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 11:00:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA07299 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:59:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07294 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:59:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk [146.176.161.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20113 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:59:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from dcs.napier.ac.uk (pcg74h [146.176.161.234]) by poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05390 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:55:48 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3700A075.BDEF2BBF@dcs.napier.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 10:59:17 +0100 From: paul meaney Organization: Department of Computing, Napier University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-NECCK (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: cahrlie mead contact Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk many thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 14:01:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26451 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:00:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26445 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:00:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f294.hotmail.com [207.82.251.185]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA12646 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 13:59:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 81418 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 1999 13:00:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990330130010.81417.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.1.129 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 05:00:10 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.128.1.129] From: "Alison Colyer" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Missing Disc Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 05:00:10 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For all of those people basking in the rays of spring at Regents Park this past Saturday, could someone please let me know if they picked up a VUL disc at the end of play? It's a just a crapy old road disc, with ingrained dirt and blood stains from where the chipped edges have shreded the catcher's hands, but it's mine and I miss it. It's the only disc I have in the world (well in this country anyway!). Please, please, please let me know if you found it. There can't be that many VUL discs in London? Thanks all, I wait with baited breath!! Alison Colyer Aussie Chick P.S. the names on it are actually Charles and Sara, but I have a little identity crisis and get confused sometimes. It's just an alias (or two). Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 14:58:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA04152 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:57:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04140 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:57:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from uk_mail.uksport.gov.uk (mailhost.uksportscouncil.co.uk [193.133.64.161]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13005 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:57:25 +0100 (BST) Received: by UK_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:57:43 +0100 Message-ID: <2F999984CB39D2119A6A00805FC775D135CA60@UK_MAIL> From: Laura Pearce To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Masters at Clubs - URGENT Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:56:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My apologies for yet another message about the masters division at Clubs. I received the following message from Charlie Mead yesterday: (please also see my additions/clarifications) -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Mead [mailto:charles.mead@easynet.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 28 March 1999 21:22 To: David J.C. MacKay; gbm@mrao.cam.ac.uk Cc: Laura Pearce Subject: Re: organization Just a word to you all. 1. It is highly unlikely that any of the Open teams will make it into WUCC except UTI and Catch. (LP: There are currently 35 of the 40 teams in the open division registered, which is why it is highly unlikely that there will be any spare slots in the division - does this mean there are any players who would like to play masters in view of this information?) 2. Masters is currently short of one team IF GB only sends one team. This will be offered to Canada who will take it. If you do not register one team by April 7th the other slot will be offered to USA who will take it, so it is decision time! (LP: You can see from this that any team not registered by 7th April will lose their slot) Someone needs to take a lead here. I think it reflects very poorly on BUF if you cannot fill at least one Masters slot. It will also have a serious knock-on effect on seeding for next World Championships in Germany. (LP: I will be very disappointed if we cannot fill one of the slots in the Masters division, especially after requesting a second one.) Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee +44-121-449-3382 (home) +44-121-373-5742 (work from Feb 1st 1999) www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ LP: With Easter at the end of this week, the amount of time to organise this is minimal, so if you're a master and you want to play at Clubs, NOW is the time to do something about it. Laura Pearce BUF National Director From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 15:16:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA06603 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:15:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06592 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:15:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from postal.interaccess.com (postal.interaccess.com [207.208.133.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16450 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 15:15:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [206.183.83.99]) by postal.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA27719 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:14:29 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com BY mailhost.spencerstuart.com ; Tue Mar 30 08:16:12 1999 Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:16:49 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'Masters'" , "'Charlie Mead'" Subject: Calling all over-30's with a passing interest in Ultimate Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 08:14:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk David MacKay has nominated me to take the organisational reins while he is away, so to follow up Laura's email just now: Anyone who can join our slowly growing band of enthusiastic geriatrics will be welcomed with open arms. Please respond to me, Britdisc, the GBM list (gbm@mrao.cam.ac.uk), whatever, but please do it *quickly*! Like before Thursday afternoon, when I for one will be out of email contact for Easter. If you want details of costs etc then visit the official website for Clubs 99 at: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ So don't worry about numbers ("I'll go if there are enough others going") - we *are* the numbers! As Nolan said: "It would be a disgrace rather than just a disaster if there were no GBM team" Cheers Wayne Tel (0171) 733 6046 Work (0171) 298 3365 PS Don't know how I got myself involved in all this - I guess I just don't want to waste the only chance I'll ever have to (sort of) represent my country [can you hear those violins play....] -----Original Message----- From: Laura Pearce [SMTP:Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 2:57 PM To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Subject: Masters at Clubs - URGENT My apologies for yet another message about the masters division at Clubs. I received the following message from Charlie Mead yesterday: (please also see my additions/clarifications) -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Mead [mailto:charles.mead@easynet.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, 28 March 1999 21:22 To: David J.C. MacKay; gbm@mrao.cam.ac.uk Cc: Laura Pearce Subject: Re: organization Just a word to you all. 1. It is highly unlikely that any of the Open teams will make it into WUCC except UTI and Catch. (LP: There are currently 35 of the 40 teams in the open division registered, which is why it is highly unlikely that there will be any spare slots in the division - does this mean there are any players who would like to play masters in view of this information?) 2. Masters is currently short of one team IF GB only sends one team. This will be offered to Canada who will take it. If you do not register one team by April 7th the other slot will be offered to USA who will take it, so it is decision time! (LP: You can see from this that any team not registered by 7th April will lose their slot) Someone needs to take a lead here. I think it reflects very poorly on BUF if you cannot fill at least one Masters slot. It will also have a serious knock-on effect on seeding for next World Championships in Germany. (LP: I will be very disappointed if we cannot fill one of the slots in the Masters division, especially after requesting a second one.) Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee +44-121-449-3382 (home) +44-121-373-5742 (work from Feb 1st 1999) www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ LP: With Easter at the end of this week, the amount of time to organise this is minimal, so if you're a master and you want to play at Clubs, NOW is the time to do something about it. Laura Pearce BUF National Director From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 30 16:15:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13272 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:14:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13266 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:14:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA19482 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:14:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-046.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.46]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA11168 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:08:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <007401be7ac0$238e7240$2ea492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Red Outdoors Results Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 16:05:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a few words on the Red Outdoors..... The weather was spectacular, the new venue proved to be good but I guess "you had to be there". Results: UTI (FA Cup winners) Red1 (Cannon fodder) Stan (Spirit - Slipdisc came joint top but had gone home!) Soup Druids BAF1 First Touch Superfly Whiplash (League Cup winners) Bliss Mild Mannered Janitors Slipdisc BAF2 PDQ G7 Red2 There are a few discs and other lost property - email us. Otherwise, thanks to those who were there. Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 31 00:10:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA24806 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:09:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA24801 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:09:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07769 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:09:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10S7dE-000AHs-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 30 Mar 1999 23:09:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 21:59:19 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Red Outdoors Results In-Reply-To: <007401be7ac0$238e7240$2ea492c3@pii266> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk First Touch were victorious over Fluid Druids in the 5v6 playoff... I also suspect that BAF1 beat Superfly. Leicester Ultimate Club writes >Results: > >UTI (FA Cup winners) >Red1 (Cannon fodder) >Stan (Spirit - Slipdisc came joint top but had gone home!) >Soup >Druids >BAF1 >First Touch >Superfly >Whiplash (League Cup winners) >Bliss >Mild Mannered Janitors >Slipdisc >BAF2 >PDQ >G7 >Red2 Cheers Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 31 12:58:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02495 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:56:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02488 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:56:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03625 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:56:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-021.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.21]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA01238 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:51:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003b01be7b6d$b4431720$15a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Red Outdoor results mistake. Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 12:15:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I get the message! I'll get Scott to sort this out as I am allergic to maths. Sorry for the error - we don't normally find ourselves in the final! Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 5 07:47:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA29747 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA29742 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA10022 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA23926 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199904050647.HAA23926@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 10th April 1999 BDGA Golf: Quarry Park Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Tour I (2 days) @ Hitchin [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th April 1999 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Bennison Email pbennison@sepro.ie Sunday 25th April 1999 Charity Sports Day in aid of the Parkinson's Disease Society (1 day) @ Ealing, London [Outdoor Ultimate] London-based corporate charity event. Further details will emerge on BritDisc. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 5 14:12:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA13371 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:12:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13366 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:12:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18899 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:12:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-057.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.57]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA28000 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:06:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <008d01be7f66$19d788e0$39a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Fw: BUF Web Page Enquiry Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:09:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Venezula anyone? -----Original Message----- From: Armando Dreyer To: BUF Date: 01 April 1999 19:12 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site Name: Armando Dreyer Address1: Address2: Post Code: Telephone: Fax: Message: Hello, My name is Armando, I play Ultimate with a Team in Venezuela "Frontinos". I am interested for to do contact with teams in Europe. Now we are making our web page and we would like contact them directly. We are interested in to promote the ultimate in Venezuela, here We have 20 teams approximately. I like that when you visit Sud America, come to Know Venezuela and play ultimate in my country. Sorry but my English. I hope receive news by you. See you later Armando From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 6 16:20:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA27982 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:20:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27977 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:20:10 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06738 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:20:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:20:03 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:20:00 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FD78@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Mission Impossible: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:19:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks! Missed me????? Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to make an Ultimate team of enthusiastic (quite possibly drunken) charitable disc sport virgins in ten minutes. If you are up to the challenge and available on Sunday 25th April please read on..... A charity event in aid of the Parkinson's Disease Society will take place on this day in Ealing. Roughly twelve corporate teams are taking part in what is supposed to be a relaxed, but competetive nonetheless, event. I have a feeling there are five sports altogether, but don't have any information on the others just yet. It's a standard two-pool, round-robin format - each team will get to play each other at each sport. We get only thirty minutes to explain the rules, teach the throws and unleash them on each other. As you will all know, there's nothing happening that weekend, and for anyone in the London area it's really not too far to travel and IT IS FOR CHARITY! Also, people with big mouths and lots of charisma required to charm the attendant GQ Active and Mens Health teams into covering Ultimate/Golf. Failing that, rich/sexy/violent people required to bribe/shag/beat them into action. Get in touch if you can help in any way. Cheers for reading..... Mark Whiplash PS - apparently someone knows one of the organisers - can you get in touch please, whoever you are??? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 6 19:27:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA13342 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:26:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA13336 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:26:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from tungsten (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22772 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:26:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from host5-171-232-240.btinternet.com ([195.171.232.240] helo=mail.btinternet.com) by tungsten with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10UaXs-0003A6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:25:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: FW: Ultimate Frisbee Show in Cracow, Poland From: Laura Pearce To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:25:56 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I received this email yesterday. If anyone is interested, please contact me as soon as possible so I can reply. I will then pass on contact details of interested parties. Thanks Laura > >We are a group of former Phisical Education Academy students running >some businesses in Cracow, Poland. We would like to organize frisbee >show in >our town (around 19 - 20 th of June'99), therefore we need a really good >(or just able to play) team (or teams) to come to Cracow and present >their abilities. Ultimate Frisbee is not popular in Poland at all, so >that would be great opportunity to show it to the people. Would it be >possible for you to have a look for any english team which would come >to Poland at that time ? >We can surely provide an accomodation, plane tickets, transport in >Cracow and great fun in our ancient city. >Please let me know as soon as you can (becouse the clock is running), >if there are any players you can find, and if there are any further >conditions we should consider. >Do not hestitate to contact me if you have any questions and require >anyfurther information. I can send it to you as soon as possible. >Waiting for your reply.. > > >-- >Bartek Cempla > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 6 23:17:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA29170 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:17:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29157 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:17:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA01708 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:17:16 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 13824 invoked from network); 6 Apr 1999 22:17:13 -0000 Received: from dyn134-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.134) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 6 Apr 1999 22:17:13 -0000 Message-ID: <370A8755.66B22BAD@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 00:14:45 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" Subject: Paganello99 Group Therapy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all. Before Jumpi gets back to his virtual self and posts a full report on the tournament I would like to invite all those of you who are trying to recover from Paganello99 to join us and talk about it on the Paganello Chat Room, at http://www.paganello.com/ Getting back to your 'real' life feels like getting run over by a train? Your 'Inbox' folder is about to explode and you don't even know where to start? You get a strange feeling of emptiness inside? I know, we miss you too. http://www.paganello.com/, follow the link to the "Chat Room". Talk to you there, Peldi PS.I am already waiting for your pictures! Remember, you could be the winner of the 1st Paganello Photo Award! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 09:18:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA28654 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:17:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28647 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:17:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24468 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:17:37 +0100 (BST) Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2K98RH5M>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:17:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Ben Ravilious'" , BRITDISC Subject: RE: BUF Web Page Enquiry Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:17:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Try Dave Bernard, he has a soft spot for Venezuelans! > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Ravilious [SMTP:bravil@webleicester.co.uk] > Sent: 05 April 1999 14:09 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Fw: BUF Web Page Enquiry > > Venezula anyone? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Armando Dreyer > To: BUF > Date: 01 April 1999 19:12 > Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry > > > You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > > Name: Armando Dreyer > Address1: > Address2: > Post Code: > Telephone: > Fax: > Message: Hello, > My name is Armando, I play Ultimate with a Team in Venezuela "Frontinos". > I > am interested for to do contact with teams in Europe. Now we are making > our > web page and we would like contact them directly. We are interested in to > promote the ultimate in Venezuela, here We have 20 teams approximately. I > like that when you visit Sud America, come to Know Venezuela and play > ultimate in my country. > > Sorry but my English. > I hope receive news by you. > See you later > Armando > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 10:45:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA09810 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:45:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09803 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:45:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00144 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:45:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 10UotX-0006Nj-00; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:45:15 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:39:40 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Ultimate in USA Today Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:44:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01be80db$2d2cdaa0$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ULTIMATE IN USA TODAY: Ultimate Frisbee tests character, fitness By Alexandra Robbins Special for USA TODAY (reprinted without permission, I hope that is ok) When Ultimate Frisbee makes its debut as a medal sport in the 2001 World Games in Japan, it's a safe bet that not one referee's call will be disputed. There won't be any refs. As the only self-officiated team sport in the Games, Ultimate Frisbee is quickly becoming a popular option for less traditional- minded athletes. Ultimate attracts "an eclectic bunch," says Michael Guiietz, Ultimate Players Association (UPA) managing director. "The people are different a little bit alternative, but they really are athletes." Many Ultimate players are drawn to the sport because of its underlying principle: the "spirit of the game," which players use to refer to the fact that they must call their own fouls and boundaries, even in national and international competition. If a player accused of a foul disagrees with the call, the team with possession keeps it. If players cannot resolve a dispute, occasionally they ask an observer to make the call. "There's a saying that Ultimate doesn't build character; it reveals character," says Jim Parinella, a five-time open national champion with his Boston based team DoG. "It gives individuals the opportunity to display their personalities on the field, whether they're going to be fair in their dealings with people or weasel their way out of things." During the 1995 World Ultimate Club Championships in England, the DoG squad was losing 19-18 when the opposing, San-Francisco- based team passed into the end zone. When Parinella dived for a block, the receiver cried foul. "The other team asked me if I had blocked the pass, but I couldn't say for sure," Parinelia recalls. "So I said I didn't the other team scored and won the game 20-18. If I had said I had blocked the shot, my team would have gotten possession instead." The players' responsibility to govern their own actions leads to fewer physical altercations than in other sports, says Kate Coyne, a member of four-time defending national women's champions Lady Godiva. "You're not policed; you police yourselves," she said. "In sports with refs, people try to get away with as much as they can. In Ultimate you're accountable to everyone." Guiietz estimates that about 150,000 Americans participate in Ultimate, which has counted former and current NFL players Shannon and Sterling Sharpe and Olympians Picabo Street and Eric Heiden among its club players. Ultimate, a high-endurance sport with few basic rules, combines the nonstop movement of soccer, the defensive strategies of basketball and the passing of football, former US. masters team captain Andy Borinstein says. The sport revolves around passing a plastic disc. On a rectangular area shaped similarly to a football field, seven-player squads must complete a pass in the opposite end zone to score. To advance the disc, the player with possession has 10 seconds to pass in any direction. Athletes may not move with the disc or initiate physical contact with another player. Despite its lack of publicity, Ultimate is quickly gaining popularity with high school students, says Amherst (Mass.) Regional High School coach Tiina Booth, who oversees one of only a few boys varsity Ultimate teams in the country "One of my players made a good analogy. You know when someone shoots a jumper and there's a crackle in the net? He said every time you throw or catch the disc you get that crisp snap, and that's why he found it so addictive," Booth says. Because of the simple rules and the low cost of the sport Ultimate requires only a disc and cones or other boundary markers - AmeriCorps, the Boy Scouts and the Boys and Girls clubs of America have incorporated it into their programs, "Ultimate is a team-building exercise we can teach elementary and middle school kids easily without a lot of rules," says Karen Labat of AmeriCorps. "It's something that is low-cost, no-contact, builds self-esteem and encourages physical fitness." Peter Bennison Pookas Dublin Ultimate mailto:pbennison@sepro.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 12:35:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25124 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25115 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08511 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:23 +0100 (BST) Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2K98R24P>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Brits at Rimini Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Another great year for the British at Rimini. The standard is getting hotter every year (luckily so is the weather) but all the British teams did really well with 3 teams in the top 16, Strange Blue winning spirit and Mohawks/UTI winning the party. On a personal note, UTI would like to say a massive thank you to all the other Brits who supported us, especially in the semi against Mir San Mir when we really needed you. Mohawks were the loudest (not suprising as there were 21 of them!) but also very vocal were Bliss, Strange Blue, Blunderbuss, OW, First Touch, Superfly and KUPA. Thanks a lot guys, we couldn't have done so well without you. Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 15:40:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA14450 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:40:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA14438 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:40:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18747 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:40:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10UtVA-000IVm-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:40:24 +0000 Subject: Tour I report-writer needed Date: Wed, 7 Apr 99 15:40:53 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all As part of an effort to get Ultimatum back on track somewhat, I'm looking for someone to write a brief-ish report on Tour I this weekend. What's involved - just paying a bit of attention to events at the tournament (maybe writing a few notes while you're there), then bashing it into a report of around 600-800 words. To be included in a bumper-sized edition of Ultimatum which we're aiming to publish as soon as possible after Hitchin. Someone's help with this would be much appreciated. All you budding journalists, please mail me back, or call me at home on 0181 767 8243. Thanks in advance. Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum Magazine, London, England editor@ultimatum.demon.co.uk Visit Ultimatum Online... http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 16:00:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA17648 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:59:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA17643 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:59:53 +0100 (BST) From: AWorman290@aol.com Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08585 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:59:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from AWorman290@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 8KKQa09712; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8280ef30.243ccc22@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:56:34 EDT Subject: Re: Brits at Rimini To: david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows sub 175 Reply-To: AWorman290@aol.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc, In response to Dave T's email, I'd like to thank all the teams that supported Bliss at Paganello this year. Thanks to everyone who supported Bliss - most especially in the final - it felt at times as if the whole crowd were behind us. I can't begin to say how traumatic it was to lose in sudden death, but many thanks to all those who cheered for us - it makes all the difference and it was great to be able to show off the high quality of womens ultimate in a final. As Dave said it was a great tournament for British teams...UTI having an incredible game against Mir San Mir... OW and Blunderbuss finishing in the top 20....Mohawks with their huge squad winning the party on every possible occasion and great playing and partying from every other British team. Thanks also to Jumpi + Peldi for organising what is quite probably the most enjoyable, well organised tournament in the world....ever. Thanks again Diana (Bliss) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 19:57:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA15348 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:56:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15341 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:56:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA21801 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:56:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10UxV0-0006gZ-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:56:31 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:52:45 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Potential Hitchin Accomodation (Hotels, Guesthouses, B+B) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With apologies to those of you for whom this is of no concern. For those of you who haven't heard from your team contact, from the SCOOT website (http://www.scoot.co.uk/): Wayne ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Scoot Results (Sort by distance / name) Guest Houses - Bed & Breakfast in Hitchin. Abbington Hotel 4 miles 23 Hitchin Road, Stevenage, SG1 3BJ Tel: 01438 315241 S Annandale 4 miles London Road, Stevenage, SG1 1XW Tel: 01438 729069 Silver Lion 4 miles West Street, Lilley, Luton, LU2 8LH Tel: 01462 768386 Lines Villa 6 miles 16 Clifton Road, Shefford, SG17 5AE Tel: 01462 811353 Ackworth Hotel 6 miles 36 Studley Road, Luton, Tel: 01582 731614 Sunview Guest House 8 miles 525 Dunstable Road, Luton, LU4 8QN Tel: 01582 491871 Pond Farm 8 miles 7 High Street, Pulloxhill, Bedford, MK45 5HA Tel: 01525 712316 Alma Guest House 8 miles 35 London Road, Biggleswade, SG18 8ED Tel: 01767 315123 New Inn Public House 8 miles 16 A Market Square, Biggleswade, SG18 8AS Tel: 01767 313198 Stratton Cottage Guest House 8 miles 4 Londonoad, Biggleswade, SG18 8ED Tel: 01767 600920 Fax: 01767 600416 West Cottage 9 miles 77 Hitchin Road, Upper Caldecote, Biggleswade, SG18 9BU Tel: 01767 315882 Guest House 10 miles 74 Station Rd, Harpenden, Tel: 01582 761417 Guest House 10 miles Beechwood, 74 Station Road, Harpenden, AL5 4TZ Tel: 01582 761417 Heritage Halt 10 miles 235 Luton Rd, Harpenden, Tel: 01582 713524 One-o-five Execuative Bed & Breakfast 10 miles 105 Dunstable Street, Ampthill, Bedford, MK45 2NG Tel: 01525 403778 Orchard Cottage 11 miles Wrestlingworth, Nr Sandy, SG19 2EW Tel: 01767 631355 R J Hamilton 11 miles High Winds Farm, Hicks Road, Markyate, St. Albans, AL3 8LW Tel: 01582 841198 Lodge Farm Guest House And Pon 12 miles Lodge Farm, Watling Street, Kensworth, Dunstable, LU6 3QS Tel: 01582 662732 Black Cat Cafe Bed & Breakfast 12 miles 90 Church Street, Dunstable, LU5 4HP Tel: 01582 607598 Northway Guest House 12 miles 126 High Street North, Dunstable, LU6 1LN Tel: 01582 662236 The Swan 14 miles 21 Court Road, Cranfield, MK43 0DR Tel: 01234 750332 Fax: 01234 750332 The Swan 14 miles 2 Court Road, Cranfield, MK43 0DR Tel: 01234 750332 Fax: 01234 750332 North Hall Farm Guest House 19 miles North Hall Road, Quendon, CB11 3XP Tel: 01799 543429 Fax: 01799 543429 Scoot Results (Sort by distance / name) Hotels & Inns in Hitchin. Tudor Oaks Lodge 0 miles Taylors Road, Astwick, Hitchin, Tel: 01462 834133 Fax: 01462 834133 Firs Hotel 0 miles 83 Bedford Road, Hitchin, SG5 2TY Tel: 01462 422322 Fax: 01462 432051 Redcoats Farmhouse Hotel & Restaurant 0 miles Redcoats Green, Hitchin, SG4 7JR Tel: 01438 729500 Fax: 01438 723322 redcoatsfarmhouse@ukbusiness.com Redcoats Farmhouse Inn 0 miles Redcoats Green, Hitchin, SG4 7JR Tel: 01438 729500 Fax: 01438 723322 redcoatsfarmhouse@ukbusiness.com The Lord Lister Hotel 0 miles 1 Park Street, Hitchin, SG4 9AH Tel: 01462 432712 Fax: 01462 438506 The Sun Hotel 0 miles Sun Street, Hitchin, SG5 1AF Tel: 01462 436411 Fax: 01462 431488 The Greyhound Inn 1 miles London Road, St Ippolyts, SG4 7NL Tel: 01462 440989 Letchworth Hall Hotel Ltd 2 miles Letchworth Lane, Letchworth, SG6 3NP Tel: 01462 683747 Blakemore Thistle Hotel 2 miles Little Wymondley, Hitchin, SG4 7JJ Tel: 01438 355821 The Broadway Toby Hotel 2 miles The Broadway, Letchworth, SS6 3NZ Tel: 01462 480111 Fax: 01462 481563 Ambassador Hotel 2 miles Sollershott East, Letchworth, SG6 3JW Tel: 01462 683143 Fax: 01462 491162 Red Lion Hotel & Restaurant 3 miles Kings Walden Road, Offley, Hitchin, SG5 3DZ Tel: 01462 768281 Goldcrest Inn Hotel & Restaurant 3 miles 14 A High Street, Baldock, SG7 6AS Tel: 01462 892940 The Rose & Crown Hotel 3 miles 8 Whitehorse Street, Baldock, SG7 6QN Tel: 01462 892339 Abbington Hotel 4 miles 23 Hitchin Road, Stevenage, SG1 3BJ Tel: 01438 315241 The Cromwell Hotel 4 miles 25-27 High Street, Old Town, Stevenage, SG1 3AX Tel: 01438 359111 Fax: 01438 742169 Cromwell Hotel 4 miles High Street, Stevenage, SG1 3AZ Tel: 01438 779954 Fax: 01438 742169 Gate Hotel 4 miles Gates Way, Stevenage, SG1 3LJ Tel: 01438 314126 The Forte Posthouse Stevenage 4 miles Old London Road, Broadwater, Stevenage, SG2 8DS Tel: 01438 365444 Fax: 01438 741308 The Hertford Park Hotel 4 miles Danestrete, Stevenage, SG1 1XB Tel: 01438 779955 Fax: 01438 741880 The Novotel Stevenage Hotel 6 miles Knebworth Park, Stevenage, SG3 6PY Tel: 01438 742299 Fax: 01438 723872 The Bell Inn 7 miles High Street, Codicote, Hitchin, SG4 8XD Tel: 01438 820278 Fax: 01438 821671 The Old George Hotel 7 miles High Street, Silsoe, Bedford, MK45 4EP Tel: 01525 860218 Three Tuns Hotel 7 miles 6 High Street, Ashwell, Baldock, SG7 5NL Tel: 01462 742107 Quality Clock Hotel 8 miles The Link, Welwyn, AL6 0SA Tel: 01438 716911 Fax: 01438 714065 The Brocket Arms 8 miles Ayot St. Lawrence, Welwyn, AL6 9BT Tel: 01438 820250 Fax: 01438 820068 The Shannon Hotel 8 miles Guildford Street, Luton, LU1 2PA http://www.scoot.co.uk/shannon_hotel/ Tel: 01582 482119 Fax: 01582 482818 The Greyhound 8 miles London Road, St Ippolyts, SS4 7NL Tel: 01462 440989 _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 7 23:53:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA05421 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:52:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA05405 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:52:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA14759 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:52:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10V1Ba-000DUj-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:52:43 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:51:16 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Vanessa White Reply-To: Vanessa White Subject: Spring into Action MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "SPRING INTO ACTIONS" 1999 Womens Outdoor Tournement Date: 24th and 25th April 1999 Venue: University of Warwick (just outside Coventry) Time: Saturday and Sunday 10am until 5.30pm Cost: £50 per team (including £12 BUF tax) - cheques payable to Sue Underwood. Please note that fields may be on a different part of the campus this year. Sue will only know much closer to the time since it is dependant on whether the new pitches are waterlogged or not!!! If you would like to play but haven't for a team or have only part of a team, please phone me an I will do my best to put you in touch with a team/another part team. Of you have any questions about anything, please phone Sue on the numbers below. Sue Underwood 70 Colebourne Road Billesley Birmingham B13 0EY Tel: 0121 778 2018 ENTRY FORM Please send reply ASAP to: Sue Underwood 70 Colebourne Road Billesley Birminham B13 0EY ------------------------------------------------------------------------ YES - I will be bringing a team to the Spring into Action Tournament on 24 and 25 April 1999. I enclose a cheque for £50 payable to Sue Underwood. Team Name: ____________________________________ Contact Name: ____________________________________ Address: ____________________________________ ____________________________________ ____________________________________ Telephone: ____________________________________ Do you need/want any more players? _________________ (I cannot guarantee to provide players but would liek to know so that I am able to put individuals in touch with team contract where possible) TEAM ROSTER (based on information you know at the moment - just to give me an idea and to help me share/allocate individuals where requires): ______________________________ _______________________________ ______________________________ _______________________________ ______________________________ _______________________________ ______________________________ _______________________________ ______________________________ _______________________________ ______________________________ _______________________________ -- Vanessa White Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903422 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 8 12:11:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA28446 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:11:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28437 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:11:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from avalon.ciam.unibo.it (avalon.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02834 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:11:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (giampi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by avalon.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18384; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:17:47 +0200 Message-ID: <370C8248.3590D960@gandalf.ciam.unibo.it> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:17:44 +0200 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: giampi Subject: Paganello999: World Beach Ultimate Cup (results) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aloha everybody! Please find below the results of Paganello '99: the Beach Ultimate Experience. The biggest european ultimate event took place on the Rimini Beach, Italy, on 4 sunny days (April 2nd to 5th) and it was joined by 900 Beach Ultimate lovers from all over the planet. An huge Beach party no-one should miss! I'm talking about: top level ultimate in both divisions, great Spirit, 3 shocking parties and a lot of fun, stories, songs, colors, games, etc. Results: after 320 games...and 3 parties: *1999 World Beach Ultimate Champions: Maitotytöt Espoo, Finland (Ladies Division) Feldrenner Mainz, Germany (Open Division) *Spirit Of The Beach: Berzerker! New York City, USA Strange Blue Cambridge, England *Complete standings: -Ladies Division: 1 Maitotytöt Espoo Finland (1999 World Beach Ultimate Champions) 2 Bliss, England (1998 WBUC) 3 Old Ones Amsterdam, The Netherlands 4 Beach Combers Gothenburg Sweden 5 Shoot From The Hip, Germany 6 Tank girls Berlin, Germany 7 Tequila Boom Boom Rimini, Italy 8 Yahoo Vienna, Austria 9 Fresh Eggs, Everywhere 10 Eyelash Vipers, Atlanta, USA 11 Swiss Mix, Switzerland 12 Swiss Chicken, Switzerland/Germany 13 Gazongas Innsbruck, Austria 14 Berzerker! New York City, USA 15 Mir San Mir, Germany 16 DDT Bologna, Italy -Open Division: 1 Feldrenner Mainz, Germany (1999 World Beach Ultimate Champions) 2 Mir San Mir Munich, Germany (1998 WBUC) 3 Fuzzy Bunny New York City, USA 4 UTI London, England 5 Cota Rica Rimini, Italy 6 Crunch Amsterdam, The Netherlands 7 Wall City Berlin, Germany 8 ZUF Zurich, Switzerland 9 Zamperl Unterfoehring, Germany 10 Groove Connection Vienna, Austria 11 Collard Greens Atlanta, USA 12 Team42 Dreieich, Germany 13 Gefle Gavle, Sweden 14 Flying Angels Bern, Switzerland 15 Blunderbuss London, England 16 OW! Oxford, England 17 Pele Mana S.Francisco, USA 18 Backstreet Toys Karlsruhe, Germany 19 Mental Discorders Bratislava, Slovak Rep. 20 Les Frisbeurs Nantais Nantes, France 21 Shakers On the Beach Rimini, Italy 22 Catch Up Graz, Austria 23 Searching Woodpeckers Sauerlach, Germany 24 Les Invalides Paris, France 25 La Fotta Bologna, Italy 26 KUPA, New Zealand 27 DISConnection Freiburg, Germany 28 Mörkö Espoo, Finland 29 Jet Set Leuven, Belgium 30 First Touch London, England 31 Forza Elektra Delft, The Netherlands 32 Strange Blue Cambridge, England 33 98% Funky Stuff Homburg, Germany 34 Huck-fin S.Francisco, USA 35 Flying Circus Innsbruck, Austria 36 Discipuli Berlin, Germany 37 Wizards Geneva, Switzerland 38 Salutami 'ntonio Milan, Italy 39 Meltdown Kiev, Ukraine 40 Superfly Nottingham, England 41 Prague Devils Prague, Czech Rep. 42 Mohawks Brighton, England 43 Patatas Bravas Barcelona, Spain 44 Die Blaumiesen Vienna, Austria 45 Radical Zurich, Switzerland 46 Horny Mermaids, Varsavia, Poland 47 MP Bologna, Italy 48 Mucche al Pascolo Bergamo, Italy Short notes: -only one team out of 64, didn't lose a game: Maitotytöt. Yeah! -in both divisions' finals, the 1998 Champions were defeated by one point only in sudden death. -5 teams lost one game only: Bliss (against Maitotytöt), Mir San Mir, Cota Rica, Fuzzy Bunny (all against Feldrenner) and Feldrenner (against UTI), keeping alive the tradition which states you can't win Paganello without losing one game at least! In light of this, it can be said that both 1999 Champs well deserved their victory. -Mir San Mir lost their 1st final after winning 4 in a row. -Best games of the whole Tournament: Maitotytöt-Bliss (women's final) and Mir San Mir-UTI (open semifinal) PAGANELLO 1991-1999: 1991: Open: Bestial Boys Cota Rica Rimini, Spirit: Big Pig Rimini 1992: Open: Mir San Mir Munich, Spirit: Bernarde Bern 1993: Open: Groove Connection Vienna, Spirit: Magyk Magyars Budapest Ladies: Tequila Boom Boom Rimini, Spirit: Yawp! Milan 1994: Open: Groove Connection Vienna, Spirit: Chaos London Ladies: Mir San Mir Munich, Spirit: Flying Circus Innsbruck 1995: Open: Mir San Zamperl Munich, Spirit: Paprika's Budapest Ladies: Mir San Mir Munich, Spirit: DDT Bologna 1996: Open: Wall City Berlin, Spirit: Galopping Goulash Budapest Ladies: Pig Up Germany, Spirit: Flying Circus Innsbruck 1997: Open: Mir San Mir Munich, Spirit: 98% Funky Stuff Homburg Ladies: Mir San Mir Munich, Spirit: Crazy Mamas Everywhere 1998: Open: Mir San Mir Munich, Spirit: Wizards Geneva Ladies: Bliss England, Spirit: Swiss Chicken Switzerland/Germany 1999: Open: Feldrenner Mainz, Spirit: Strange Blue Cambridge Ladies: Maitotytöt Espoo, Spirit: Berzerker! New York City Thanks to everybody who was here! It was simply unforgettable. La Dolce Vita. More info, pictures and results coming soon at: http://www.paganello.com Ciao! -Jumpi --- "Last train to London, just heading out Last train to London, just leaving town But I really want tonight to last forever I really want to be with you" (Electric Light Orchestra, 1979) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 8 12:16:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA29346 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29339 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21163 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10VCnR-0007Pv-00 for Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:33 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Apr 99 12:16:33 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.43); 8 Apr 99 12:16:19 +0100 From: "pete" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: hitchin to hitchin X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <8E215B206B@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, We are two lovely people, in Sheffield, looking for a lift down to hitchin this weekend, can anybody help? Cheers, Pete and Claerwen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 8 13:35:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09129 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:34:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09115 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:34:54 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA07918 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:34:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 00039DE2; Thu, 8 Apr 99 13:34:14 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:33:40 +0100 Message-ID: <00039DE2.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Hitchin format To: BritDisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, In response to the following queries, and others, the straightforward answer is "No, I can't". I _can_ enlighten you this much: Captain's meeting is at 9.00am on Saturday 10 Games start at 9.30am on Saturday Which teams are playing in these games will depend on whether any more teams drop out - we HAD 31 until Picnic pulled out yesterday! - and whether any more (there was one possibility) join in. Chris Hughes (schedule author) is now out of contact until Saturday morning - so we can't ask him, either... SO, DON'T BE LATE, or you may lose your game if you can't do 7-on-the-line, ready to play, when the hooter goes! More information... Seedings are based upon Nationals'98 results, THEN Tour'98 Rankings (i.e. teams that attended Nationals 98 will be seeded higher than teams that didn't, and Catch 22 [National Champs] are seeded above UTI [Nationals Runner-Up]) with any "new" teams slotted in at the TD's discretion. I'll TRY to publish the list of seedings this evening. (Please note that these may not be the final seedings used for the tournament!) Tournament Format/Schedule: (designed by Chris Hughes) - and not too dissimilar (Chris thinks, but I can't prove, either way) to Tour I (Leicester)'98 (Please note that this may not be the final format used for the tournament!) Saturday: Round 1: round-robin in 8 "traditional" pools of 4, with two spaces (apologies to UTI and Catch22 - looks like you'll have training time on Saturday!) ----------------------------------------- | A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | ----------------------------------------- | 01 | 02 | 03 | 04 | 05 | 06 | 07 | 08 | | 15 | 16 | 13 | 14 | 11 | 12 | 09 | 10 | | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | | -- | -- | 29 | 30 | 27 | 28 | 25 | 26 | ----------------------------------------- (the "staggers" are there so that, if everything goes perfectly to seeding, the Round3 08vs09... and 16v17... games haven't already been played in the Saturday pools) Round 2: 01v08... 09v16... 17v24... play ONE knockout game. --------------------------- | 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 | 1 knockout game --------------------------- | 15 16 13 14 11 12 09 10 | 1 knockout game --------------------------- | 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 | 1 knockout game --------------------------- 25-30 go into two pools of 3, and play a round-robin (1 game Sat, 1 Sun) Sunday: Round 3: 01-04; (i.e. winners of 01v08...) play semis and finals These will be longer than Saturday games. The FINAL will be played to the new WFDF Rules. 05-12; (i.e. loosers of 01v08... and winners of 09v16...) 13-20; (i.e. loosers of 09v16... and winners of 17v24...) play knockouts (quarters, semis and finals) 21-24; (i.e. loosers of 17v24...) play a round-robin pool 25-30 finish their round robin pools and have playoffs between pools --------------- | 01 02 03 04 | semis + finals ----------------------------- | 05 06 07 08 | knockout | 11 12 09 10 | ----------------------------- | 15 16 13 14 | knockout | 17 18 19 20 | ----------------------------- | 21 22 23 24 | round robin ----------------------------- | 25 26 | 27 28 | 29 30 | playoffs ------------------------- Conclusions: # In theory, any team can win this tournament - but you have to finish top of your Saturday pool to acheive this. # There are no "second chances" in this format - if you want to win the tournament, you will have to win ALL of your games (unless you want to rely on a lucky tie outcome!). ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Hitchin format Author: David Trovell at ~Internet Date: 08/04/99 12:39 Hi Wayne, Can you tell me who UTI are playing first and when? Cheers Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 8 14:11:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA14367 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:10:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14346 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:10:30 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA10535 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:10:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 00039E89; Thu, 8 Apr 99 14:09:50 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:08:53 +0100 Message-ID: <00039E89.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: WFDF Rules and U8Tour To: BritDisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris appears to be suffering PC/email problems... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Author: "HUGHES; Chris" at ~Internet Date: 08/04/99 Dear All. As you are probably aware the WFDF is proposing some rule changes for this upcoming year and worlds. However there was quite a lot of opposition on britdisc to these new rules. From that view we have already written a letter to the WFDF highlighting these view points, that whilst we belive the whole point of speeding up the game is good, that these rules may not be the way forward due to their complexity in managing the organisation of a tournament with these rules. However, we also feel that it is important that we give these proposals a chance. Hence at the upcoming tour 1 event it is proposed that the final and possibly the semi finals will be played to these new rules. THESE RULES WILL NOT BE APPLIED IN ANY OTHER GAMES. If people watch these games then if teams can email me their thoughts this can be included and taken into account when writing the final reply. Please consider not only how you felt it affected the game in the final, but also how it would affect the game at your own teams level. If any one has any questions then please leave them until the tournament as I will not have email or phone access until then. I enclose a copy of the rules for those who have not seen them. Chris Hughes DoC Rule Changes for 1999. Since 1995 there has been considerable pressure from players , teams and National Associations to introduce rule changes to Ultimate that will both speed up the non-playing part of the game and help resolve disputes on the field. The use of Observers and Referees is not a road which WFDF has been keen to take. Instead we have devised a number of new rules, some of which will replace older rules, to help move the pace of the game along. The following changes and adaptations to the WFDF Rules of Ultimate have been made by the WFDF Ultimate Committee with approval from the WFDF Board and in consultation with the UPA. These Rules will be used at WFDF World Ultimate Club Championships in 1999 and come into play officially from April 1st 1999. It is the intention of the Ultimate Committee that these rules are trialed by National Associations and teams and that feedback is given to the Ultimate Committee so that any practical or philosophical difficulties in putting these rules into practice can be sorted out before June 7th 1999. These rules will therefore be given guideline status until June 7th 1999 at which point they will be confirmed with any additions or deletions gained from the practical experience of players and moderated by WFDF. It is the purpose of these rule changes to speed up the game. Any suggestions to modify these rules further must keep to that main purpose. The suggestions for numbering of the new rules are guidelines only at this stage and to help players identify where the new rules fit. Game discs (To replace 404.05 D (10).intro and (a)) Every game has five game-discs, all provided by the Tournament Director according to 403.01. Four of these discs are placed just outside the cones at the corners of the playing field proper. As soon as a throw-off lands anywhere outside the playing field or the end-zone, any player on the receiving team may pick up one of the two closest extra discs and play it immediately. Depending on where the original disc lands the player may use the 'middle' or 'brick' rule when putting an extra disc into play, or play it from the corner of the playing field proper. Before one of the additional discs is picked up, the player who is about to pick up the disc must shout "Corner disc" and clearly point to the disc they are about to pick up to make it clear to the defence what is happening. It is not permitted to use the choice of disc to trick the defenders to set up their defence at the wrong disc. Brick rule: the brick point is moved to 20 yds (approximately 18 m) upfield from the goal line. (404.05 D (10) (c)) NOTE: If they wish players may choose to play the disc originally thrown and use the "middle" or "brick" rules. There is no "Over" option now. Time-limit between points ( New Rule 404.08 E (1) to (7) E1 The time limit between the scoring of a goal and the ensuing pull is sixty seconds for the receiving team, and seventy-five seconds for the throwing team. E2 As soon as a goal is scored (in the event of a discussion, as soon as the goal is acknowledged by the defending team), the score keeper starts a clock. After forty-five seconds, the score keeper warns the receiving team that it has fifteen seconds before the minute runs out, by shouting "Offence fifteen seconds." E3 If, before sixty seconds have passed, the receiving team acknowledges that they are ready, the score keeper warns the throwing team that they have fifteen seconds before the seventy-five seconds run out, by shouting "Defence fifteen seconds." E4 If, before sixty seconds have passed, the receiving team does not acknowledge that they are ready, they lose a time-out. The score keeper shouts "Time-out Offence" to announce this. A regular time-out for that team then takes place. If the receiving team has used all their time-outs, they lose possession at their own goal line, whereby the then receiving team can pick up the disc at the middle of the goal line. E5 If the throwing team do not acknowledge before seventy-five seconds that they are ready, they lose a time-out. The score keeper shouts "Time-out Defence" to announce this. A regular time-out for that team then takes place. If the throwing team has used all their time-outs, they lose the opportunity to defend the length of the field and the receiving team can pick up the disc at the middle of the goal line. E6 A team is ready when one or more of the seven players, who are positioned according to 404.05 D (2), raises an arm to acknowledge that they are prepared to immediately start playing. E7 When calling the time-outs, the score keeper can substitute the team names for the words Offence and Defence above. E8 The same rules shall apply for the beginning of each half of play. Time limits for Time Outs (New Rule 404.03.A (5)) After 1 minute 30 seconds the score keeper warns both teams that they have thirty seconds before the 2 (two) minutes runs out, by shouting "Time Out thirty seconds." Play shall be resumed at the end of a time out by the player with the disc shouting "Check". At this point a stall count can begin or the disc must be released within ten seconds. At the two minute mark if the team with the disc is not ready to start play again they shall loose a time out. A regular time-out for that team then takes place. If the team with the disc has used all its time outs they lose possession at the point where play would have resumed at the end of the time out. If the defending team is not ready to start play again the team with the disc may resume play after shouting "Check". The rules on 'Time limits between points' shall come into effect when a time out is called after a point is scored, except that the time between points shall be two minutes. After 1 minute 30 seconds the score keeper warns both teams that they have thirty seconds before the 2 (two) minutes runs out, by shouting "Time Out thirty seconds." Disputes (New Rule404.17 C (2)) After a dispute has gone on for thirty seconds, the score-keeper shall instruct the players involved to either resolve the issue themselves immediately or return the disc to the last thrower, according to 404.17 C. Any team felt to be extending disputes deliberately or persistently shall be referred to the Tournament Rules group with a view to possible disqualification from the tournament. Failing to catch after touching (Replacement rule 404.05 D (8) Whenever a member of the receiving team touches the disc during its flight (whether in or out-of bounds) and the receiving team subsequently fails to catch the disc prior to its touching the ground, any member of the receiving team can pick up the disc from where it stops. This replaces current rule 404.05.D (8). NOTE: this means you can drop the pull and still keep possession. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 8 18:36:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA19877 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:35:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA19869 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:35:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21274 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:35:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VIhu-00039H-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:35:14 +0100 Received: from modem-125.astro.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.96.253] helo=default) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VIgi-0001Pg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:34:00 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01be81e5$9a811fc0$fd60883e@default> From: "Lewis" To: Subject: Skunks contact Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:29:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE81ED.AD458800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE81ED.AD458800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need to get in contact with a Will Parker or Iain Roberts or Marv from = Skunks by this weekend. If anyone has a telephone number for these people can you please send it = to me!! My telephone number is 01705 791274 Email : loopy@pdq-ultimate.freeserve.co.uk Thanks a lot Loopy (PDQ, Portsmouth) PS If you're still connected to the net check out our ultimate web site = at http://www.pdq-ultimate.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE81ED.AD458800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need to get in contact with a Will = Parker or=20 Iain Roberts or Marv from Skunks by this weekend.
If anyone has a telephone number for = these=20 people can you please send it to me!!
 
My telephone number is 01705 791274
Email : loopy@pdq-ultimate.fre= eserve.co.uk
 
Thanks a lot
Loopy (PDQ, Portsmouth)
 
PS If you're still connected to the net check out = our ultimate=20 web site at http://www.pdq-ultimate.= freeserve.co.uk
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE81ED.AD458800-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 8 21:58:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09041 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:57:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09036 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:57:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA06424 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:57:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VLro-0007iG-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:41 +0000 Message-ID: <4E78pFAeHRD3EwKm@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:30:22 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Layout Dreams Subject: Re: Hitchin format In-Reply-To: <00039DE2.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Seedings are based upon Nationals'98 results, THEN Tour'98 Rankings (i.e. teams >that attended Nationals 98 will be seeded higher than teams that didn't, and >Catch 22 [National Champs] are seeded above UTI [Nationals Runner-Up]) with any >"new" teams slotted in at the TD's discretion. > >I'll TRY to publish the list of seedings this evening. >(Please note that these may not be the final seedings used for the tournament!) Seeding Team Name 1 Catch 22 2 UTI 3 Chevron Action Flash 4 Fluid Druids 5 Headrush 6 First Touch 7 Red 8 Blue Arse Flies 1 9 S.O.U.P (*) 10 The Mild Mannered Janitors 11 Strange Blue 12 Nightfever 13 Jedi 14 Dough Boy (*) 15 Skunks 16 Wyld Stallyns (*) 17 Oxford Sharks 18 Twin Peaks (W) 19 Bliss (W) 20 Slipdisc 21 K-Niggets 22 Fingers 6 23 Whiplash 24 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 25 Phat 'Eds 26 Albatross (*) 27 Blue Arse Flies 2 (CoEd) (*) 28 Gael Force (CoEd) (*) 29 Smudge (*) 30 Hurricane (*) Notes: 1. S.O.U.P. (Scottish Open Ultimate Players) have been substituted in as a direct replacement for Sneeekys; 2. All other "new" (*) teams are seeded outside of the Nationals'98 rankings. See you Saturday Wayne PS: mail to this address will not be read before the weekend. best you try calling my mobile 07970-903420 if you need to contact me urgently (and I DO mean URGENTLY!). _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 05:17:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA07635 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:16:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA07627 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:16:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA19656 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:16:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-15.titanium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.10.143] helo=default) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VSip-0004gY-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:16:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000901be823f$683f9320$8f0a883e@default> From: "Lewis" To: Subject: It's worth a try, I'm desperate. Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:13:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE8247.C41EE300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE8247.C41EE300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! After weeks of trying to convince my ultimate team to go on tour, I now, = on the eve of Hitchin have to concede defeat.=20 Due to lack of interest, exams and holidays I've got no chance of = playing ultimate this weekend. [violins play softly in the background].=20 Unless someone is willing to throw a life line to this enthusiastic = lonely player. I honestly don't know the rules about guest/pickup = players for tour, but someone out their must be as desperate as me. [Look I'm emailing at 5am after just waking from a nightmare were I was = having to watch ultimate from the touch line because I'd just broken my = leg.....in 4 places!....Horrific.....see I am desperate!] Please email me and make mine and hopefully yours a good weekend.=20 Good luck to all the teams, I'm sure you all will make it a fab = tournament. Loopy (Lewis) ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE8247.C41EE300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi!
 
After weeks of trying to convince my = ultimate=20 team to go on tour, I now, on the eve of Hitchin have to concede defeat. =
Due to lack of interest, exams and = holidays I've=20 got no chance of playing ultimate this weekend.
 
 [violins play softly in the = background].=20
 
Unless someone is willing to throw a = life line=20 to this enthusiastic lonely player. I honestly don't know the rules = about=20 guest/pickup players for tour, but someone out their must be as = desperate as=20 me.
 
 [Look I'm emailing at 5am = after just=20 waking from a nightmare were I was having to watch ultimate from the = touch=20 line  because I'd just broken my leg.....in 4 = places!....Horrific.....see I=20 am desperate!]
 
Please email me and make mine and = hopefully=20 yours a good weekend.
Good luck to all the teams, I'm sure = you all=20 will make it a fab tournament.
 
Loopy = (Lewis)
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE8247.C41EE300-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 09:23:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA02350 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:22:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02342 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:22:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01424 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:22:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-115.flonase.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.67.243] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10VWYF-00040J-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:22:12 +0100 From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Pick-up at Hitchin Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:20:00 +0100 Message-ID: <01be8261$c2a9d060$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE826A.246E3860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE826A.246E3860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is anyone out there looking for an extra player for Tour 1? I'm normally a SuperFly player but we're not able to get a team together = for tour 1, possibly for the whole tour in fact. I'm not rostered with = any team at the moment. Thanks a lot, Ben big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE826A.246E3860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is anyone out there looking for an = extra player=20 for Tour 1?
I'm normally a SuperFly player but = we're not=20 able to get a team together for tour 1, possibly for the whole tour in = fact. I'm=20 not rostered with any team at the moment.
 
Thanks a lot,
 
Ben
big_boy@super-fly.frees= erve.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01BE826A.246E3860-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 13:19:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06210 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:19:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06203 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:19:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mcfeely.interaccess.com (mcfeely.interaccess.com [207.208.133.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA20272 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:19:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [206.183.83.99]) by mcfeely.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id HAA13835 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:19:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: FROM exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com BY mailhost.spencerstuart.com ; Fri Apr 09 07:21:54 1999 Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:21:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'Masters'" Subject: Another plea... Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:34:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ...not for a Hitchin pick up, but for the yet-to-be-registered GB Masters team for the WUCC extravaganza. The following have been referred to me via various people as maybe being interested (or at least being old enough, which is good enough for me) Could you *please* get in touch with me about potential involvement, even if it's only to say no. * George Aslett of Oxford/Monks * Dave Whitehead of First Touch * Matt Hinton, Milton Keynes * Ed Gonsalves, Open University * Anyone from an Open team that hasn't made it to the Open Division (you can still play for your Open team in the Tour!) * Anyone who might not see this as they haven't got email (apparently some people still don't!) * Anyone else old enough, and willing enough * Anyone... Either call me, email me or see me at Hitchin, where I'll be 'playing' with Albatross (generously seeded at 26) Cheers Wayne Home 0171 733 6046 Work 0171 298 3365 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 16:21:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA02819 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:20:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02801 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:20:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA04526 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:20:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11216 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 14:52:18 -0000 Received: from userh926.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (194.69.104.45) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 14:52:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001901be8270$09834b20$2d6845c2@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Tour 1 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:00:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anybody need some extra players at Hitchin this weekend. There are 3 - 5 of us that should have been part of a GB juniors type effort but we fell short of players at the last minute. Non of us are rostered. Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 16:21:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA02835 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:20:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02813 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:20:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA04238 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:20:26 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11227 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1999 14:52:19 -0000 Received: from userh926.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (194.69.104.45) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 1999 14:52:19 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01be8270$0a4cb5a0$2d6845c2@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Tour 1 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:01:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anybody need some extra players at Hitchin this weekend. There are 3 - 5 of us that should have been part of a GB juniors type effort but we fell short of players at the last minute. Non of us are rostered. Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 16:42:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA06267 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:42:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06257 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:42:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from romeo.ic.ac.uk (romeo.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06641 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:42:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from oban.cc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28] by romeo.ic.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 10VdQ3-0006zg-00; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:42:12 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by oban.cc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10VdPs-0000lb-00; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:42:00 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE0155F147@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: chuck around? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:41:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone in the London area fancy a chuck around at Kensington Gardens tonight??? Just to the west (left) of the Albert Memorial, on the grass. I'm gonna be there in about half an hour, so come join me. tom From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 9 16:56:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08256 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:55:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08244 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:55:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07874 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:55:15 +0100 (BST) Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2K98RP2W>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:54:47 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'White, Tom'" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: chuck around? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:54:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone in the London area fancy a stroll through Clapham Common tonight??? Just to the west (left) of the Band Stand, in the bushes. I'm gonna be there in about half an hour, so come join me!!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: White, Tom [SMTP:tom.white@ic.ac.uk] > Sent: 09 April 1999 16:42 > To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: chuck around? > > Anyone in the London area fancy a chuck around at Kensington Gardens > tonight??? > > Just to the west (left) of the Albert Memorial, on the grass. > > I'm gonna be there in about half an hour, so come join me. > > tom From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 10 20:40:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18325 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:39:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA18307; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:39:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA16257; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:39:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-016.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.16]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA15434; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:33:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001001be838a$12409360$10a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Paying for Ultimate - A Proposal Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:40:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, Those of you who were at Hitchin will already have had a chance to read this important proposal (attached below) but we want to make sure everyone gets a chance to read it. Please take the time to read this carefully and return (constructive) criticism of the proposal. Apologies to team main contacts who may receive this twice. Please can you circulate this email amongst your teams. Copies will also be posted to all team contacts shortly. We look forward to your response. Thanks The British Ultimate Federation Committee. ======================================================================= Paying for Ultimate – A Proposal Ultimate is growing. In the last five years the number of teams in the UK has doubled, the standard of play has increased tremendously and the sport is beginning to be noticed. Perhaps because of its academic roots, the way it is run has not changed much from the ‘President – Secretary – Treasurer’ university sports club management style. This has kept the sport going for many years but is now beginning to let us down. To give them credit, the various BUF committees have given a lot of time and have all added their bit, but generally this has always been focused on the bare essentials; scheduling the major tournaments, administrating membership, etc. Through the following conversation with an imaginary (and somewhat cynical!) player we hope to persuade you that we have a viable proposal to shake up the whole organisation and run things properly. PLAYER: Why does the BUF never really seem to be doing anything for us except taking our money? BUF: Because the whole organisation is entirely run by volunteers who have their own careers and can’t always make Frisbee their number one priority. As it happens, the BUF officers do a lot of work behind the scenes. The committee regularly receives up to 30 letters and emails per day and has an unceasing stream of rule and regulation queries to deal with. Unfortunately this generally isn't very interesting work and mostly involves hassling other ultimate players, writing letters and licking stamps. As the sport grows (currently approximately 2000 players) the situation will only get worse. We believe the only way to solve this problem is to pay people to do the administration work and newsletter production so that the elected officers can concentrate on the development of the sport. PLAYER: How could the BUF ever afford to pay salaries? BUF: By becoming an association with individual membership just like other countries (e.g. the UPA in America.) PLAYER: Isn’t individual membership just making more work for the organisation? BUF. Individual membership would increase the work of the administrator but the benefits of having proper contact with every player in the country would make it worthwhile. The organisation would be able to communicate properly with all players and the opportunities for starting new teams and helping special interest groups (e.g. women or juniors) would be huge. Rostering of teams would become a lot easier with a proper national database of players. PLAYER: This means I would have to pay more money, doesn’t it? BUF: Yes, but then the sport is currently so cheap it is almost free. The average player pays about £10 per year to the BUF through team affiliation fees and tournament tax. We are suggesting an annual individual membership of, say, £25. This would allow us to abolish team fees and tournament tax completely. PLAYER: What would we get for our money? BUF: Most important of all is a regular newsletter posted to all members. Other individual benefits could include individual personal accident insurance and cheap discs. For the good of the sport there would be someone running the national organisation properly so that enquiries are dealt with, information is provided, initiatives are supported and players are kept informed. Our national teams could be supported properly with maybe some financial assistance in the future. We could maintain contact with players who move or graduate and need to find or start new teams. In general, direct correspondence from the organisation rather than through team contacts would improve communication immensely. PLAYER: Who is going to police association membership at tournaments? BUF: Clearly the association would have to make sure that players at official tournaments were all fully paid members. With the increasing requirement for team rosters at tournaments it would be difficult for people to slip the net. In any case, we think most players would want to become members in order to receive the benefits mentioned above. PLAYER: What about students and junior players who cannot afford individual membership? BUF: It may be best to let these groups continue under the current team affiliation set-up. Apart from anything else, trying to keep in contact with individual student members would be very difficult. One idea might be to give these groups a bit more autonomy from the main national organisation. This is beginning to happen quite naturally now anyway as student ultimate becomes larger and more organised whilst the non-student teams are playing at a higher level. PLAYER: When might this happen? BUF: This is up to you. If the consensus on this proposal is positive then there is no reason why we should not consider going ahead within the next twelve months. The BUF is not going to make this happen unless it has the full support of players at all levels. It is likely that we might hold some sort of referendum for teams to make the final decision. The purpose of this letter is just to spark debate and gauge peoples’ feelings on the organisation of the sport in this country. We must have input from players to make this get off the ground. Please contact us with your comments suggestions or questions:- British Ultimate Federation buf@ultimateweb.co.uk 0116 2559638 PO Box 1 Swan House Leicester LE9 5ZW QUICK SUMMARY: The Federation is replaced with an Association of individual members who pay a single annual fee. The Association communicates directly with players Members receive individual benefits such as a regular newsletter posted to them and personal accident insurance. The Association employs people to produce the newsletter and deal with the administration tasks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Apr 11 22:46:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA00592 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:46:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA00583 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:46:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02679 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:46:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10WS3O-000Fg8-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:46:10 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:21:46 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: BUF Tour I - Results & Ranking Points MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Spirit of the Game: Dough Boy Final Positions: Team Ranking Points 01 Catch 22 250 02 Chevron Action Flash 230 03 U.T.I. 222 04 Dough Boy 210 05 Blue Arse Flies 205 06 S.O.U.P. 190 07 Fluid Druids 181 08 Headrush 170 09 Red 162 10 First Touch 150 11 Nightfever 141 12 Skunks 130 13 Wyld Stallyns 125 14 Strange Blue 110 15 Smudge 101 16 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 90 17 Sharks 81 18 Whiplash 74 19 Jedi 69 20 Bliss (W) 63 21 Blue Arse Flies Too (C) 57 22 Mild Mannered Janitors (C) 51 23 Twin Peaks (W) 46 24 Gael Force (C) 40 25 Phat 'Eds 34 26 Albatross 29 27 Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) 23 28 Slipdisc 17 29 Fingers 6 11 30 Hurricane 6 _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 07:47:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA08477 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:47:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08471 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23837 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA00961 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199904120647.HAA00961@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 17th April 1999 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Bennison Email pbennison@sepro.ie Sunday 25th April 1999 Charity Sports Day in aid of the Parkinson's Disease Society (1 day) @ Ealing, London [Outdoor Ultimate] London-based corporate charity event. Further details will emerge on BritDisc. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 10:42:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA28693 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:41:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28636 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:41:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06009 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:41:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 10WdDe-0005R8-00; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:41:31 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:36:17 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" , "EuroDisc" Cc: Subject: Dublin Tournament Website ... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:40:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be84c8$8a7d36a0$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dublin tournament web site (with maps) is now available. Sorry the maps are so big (1.5 MB total) but you might thank me if you get lost. Pitch location is the same as last year. The fun starts at the Pavillion Bar Friday night at Trinity College, from about 8pm onwards. Please note that if you have asked us for floor space, you MUST show up at the pub, sometime between 8 and close. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/1090/DublinUltimate.htm Peter Bennison +353 1 296 4428 Ext 145 mailto:pbennison@sepro.ie http://www.sepro.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 14:05:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22831 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22818 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:31 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11678 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:19 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:15 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FDA4@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Charity Event Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:05:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The response to my previous message requesting assitance on the 25th has been non-existant. Am I right in thinking that there are no London-area players prepared to give up a few hours on a Sunday for beer and charity, in order to introduce our sport to a captive audience, possibly recruit some new players, and get yet more much needed publicty, potentially on a national scale? The weekend was specifically chosen because it was free of Ultimate activity. The women's tournie has since been scheduled but that still leaves a lot of players free. If you can read this and say you don't want to see more publicity for Ultimate, you don't want more players and you don't want to help a charity cause then congratulations. I prefer to think that the majority of you do not think like that. Please make a small committment and support this event. The orginal message, with a vague outline of the event, is below. Mark Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to make an Ultimate team of enthusiastic (quite possibly drunken) charitable disc sport virgins in ten minutes. If you are up to the challenge and available on Sunday 25th April please read on..... A charity event in aid of the Parkinson's Disease Society will take place on this day in Ealing. Roughly twelve corporate teams are taking part in what is supposed to be a relaxed, but competetive nonetheless, event. I have a feeling there are five sports altogether, but don't have any information on the others just yet. It's a standard two-pool, round-robin format - each team will get to play each other at each sport. We get only thirty minutes to explain the rules, teach the throws and unleash them on each other. As you will all know, there's nothing happening that weekend, and for anyone in the London area it's really not too far to travel and IT IS FOR CHARITY! Also, people with big mouths and lots of charisma required to charm the attendant GQ Active and Mens Health teams into covering Ultimate/Golf. Failing that, rich/sexy/violent people required to bribe/shag/beat them into action. Get in touch if you can help in any way. Cheers for reading..... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 15:59:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA06494 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:58:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06482; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:58:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA29679; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:58:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10Wi8a-0004eX-00; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:56:36 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 12 Apr 99 15:56:35 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 12 Apr 99 15:56:19 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:56:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: National Student Outdoor Championships Venue: Lady Manners School, Bakewell Dates: 1st/2nd May 1999 Below is a list of the 24 teams paid up and entered. Cheques are being paid in today. A member of each of these clubs received a receipt and directions to the tournament at Tour I with the exception of No Frills, Fish, PDQ, N. Lights and Cupid Stunts whose receipts and directions went into the post this morning. Below there is also a list of teams which I have heard nothing from. Can ALL of you please let me know whether you are COMING OR NOT. PAID UP AND ENTERED Phat 'Eds Mythago Mohawks No Frills Ow! Fish Ro-Sham-Bo Cupid Stunts Skunks Disc Doctors Jesters Northern Lights PDQ Far Flung Mwnci See Jedi Disciples Bears Phat 'Eds II Mythago II Mohawks II Jedi II Bears II Bears III UNKNOWN (Please let me know EITHER WAY) Brunel Falcons Chaos Essex Falling Skies Fingers 6 Fubar Hulltimate Kings College Picnic Purple Haze Shooting Stars The Source Strange Blue Toxic Uriel UWE UWIC Yorkie Bar Kids -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 16:13:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08513 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:13:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08500; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:13:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01047; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:13:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10WiN6-0005AU-00; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:11:36 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 12 Apr 99 16:11:36 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 12 Apr 99 16:11:25 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:11:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Invites CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: Tour II Venue: Graves Tennis Centre & Meadowhead School Dates: 8th/9th May Sounds like I missed out on a top weekend, thanks to the pethetic reason of a really painful crick in the neck, which resulted in me being unable to move for 48 hours. Perhaps Chevron play better without me anyway. But hey, Tour I is over and it is time to get organised for Tour II: The tournament is being held at a split site, but since the venues are opposite sides of a minor road it won t be a problem at all. The Graves site is providing the mahjority of the facilities including hot food, changing rooms, first aid office, toilets, etc. The Meadowhead site is also providing food and all the parking, so can you please avoid parking on the Graves site. In the evening, the party is at one of the University of Sheffield s Halls of Residences, Sorby Hall. Those who came to the Sheffield Indoor Qualifier will know all about it. This time, however, in addition to cheap student beer there will be not one, but two discos. Since it is being advertised as an event for the residents of the hall, there will also be plenty of randoms for us all to get acquainted with. So far 25 teams have paid up their tax for the tournament (these are listed in the first list). All of these teams should have received the tournament pack this weekend at Hitchin. These teams now need to send there entry fee of 80 pounds to the address in the signature of this email. Cheques should be made payable to More Than Just A Tournament and should be sent to reach me by the deadline of next weekend (17th April). Invites are also going out to all the teams in the second list. If any other teams wish to receive an invite please let me know. To enter you must pay your tax to Dora and entry fee to me. In return, I will send an information pack including accomodation and directions. LIST 1: TAX PAID, PLEASE SEND TOURNAMENT ENTRY FEE >> 1 Strange Blue >> 2 Bliss >> 3 Whiplash >> 4 Twin Peaks >> 5 Skunks >> 6 Chevron Action Flash >> 7 Druids >> 8 Gael Force >> 9 Nightfever >> 10 Albatross >> 11 Headrush >> 12 Blue Arse Flies 1 >> 13 Blue Arse Flies 2 >> 14 First Touch >> 15 UTI >> 16 Phat Eds >> 17 Red I >> 18 Red II >> 19 Slipdisc >> 20 MMJ >> 21 Mohawk Mwnci Magic >> 22 Catch 22 >> 23 SOUP >> 24 Jedi >> 25 Wyld Stallions LIST 2: OFFICIAL INVITES SENT TO BEARS BRUCE LEE DRAGONS (nee K-NIGGETS) CHAOS DISC DOCTORS DOUGH BOY FINGERS 6 FUBAR GB JUNIOR TEAM KINGS COLLEGE LONDON K-NIGGETS LURKERS MUD CULTURE NO FRILLS OW! PICNIC IN THE SKY PLAYTHINGS POOKAS PURPLE HAZE RESERVOIR FISH SHARKS SNEEEKY'S SUPERFLY TOXIC NINJA ATTACK URIEL VILLAGE PEOPLE VIOLENTLY HAPPY Look forward to seeing you all in Sheffield, Si Weeks. ------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 12 16:14:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA08630 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:14:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA08621; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:14:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01136; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:14:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10WiOC-0005D0-00; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:12:44 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 12 Apr 99 16:12:43 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 12 Apr 99 16:12:32 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:12:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Tour II Accommodation CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA08622 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: Tour II Venue: Graves Tennis Centre & Meadowhead School Dates: 8th/9th May 1999 Accommodation Close to the Venue The No. 1 option is the Sheffield Moat House. The Hotel actually overlooks the pitches, so that if you are lucky enough not to be on first thing Sunday morning, you can sit in your room and watch everyone else sprinting around. That s not all, the price includes, breakfast and complimentary use of their swimming pool, Jacuzzi, sauna and even their gym! Could there be a better way to relax after running around a field all day? The cost is £58 for a double or twin room including breakfast. They also have a number of Z-beds, which they have offered to put in these rooms at an extra charge of just £7 including an extra breakfast (i.e. £65 for three people). There are also a number of triple rooms (1 double bed and 1 single bed) also available at a cost of £65. However, these rooms are being held for a fortnight only, so to reserve your place, act now. Call (0114) 282 9988 and quote Ref. 1334. Other than this there is not a great deal of accommodation available near to the venue. The only options are: Ashford, 3 rooms, 17pppn, 0114 237 5900 Bishops Place, 1 rooms, 15pppn, 0114 265 1753 Hillside, 2 rooms, 16pppn, 0114 262 0833 Tyndale, 4 rooms, 17pppn, 0114 236 1660 Whirlow Park, 3 rooms, 17.50pppn, 0114 235 0214 Beauchief Hotel, 41 rooms, 85pppn, 0114 262 0500 Accommodation Close to the Party The best option is the Halls of Residence. At the moment I have only got a deal with Earnshaw Hall, although I am expecting to hear from the others in the next few days. I will publicise this information on Britdisc when I get it. Earnshaw Hall are offering 30 single rooms at a cost of £10.50 if you provide your own bedding (i.e. sleeping bag) or £11.50 if you use theirs. This includes breakfast, which will be served between 7.45am and 10am approximately. To book call Aileen Turton on (0114) 222 8802. The YMCA also offers reasonably priced accommodation at £16 per night including breakfast. There are currently about twenty rooms available. To book call (0114) 268 4807. The following places are within a fifteen-minute walk from the party. They are roughly listed in ascending order of price. Abbey House, 3 rooms, 17ppn, 0114 266 7426 ParklandsGuest House, 4 rooms, 18pppn, 0114 267 0692 Beech House, 9 rooms, 19.50pppn, 0114 266 2537 Martins G.H., 8 rooms, 19.50pppn, 0114 230 8588 Millingtons G.H., 6 rooms, 21.00pppn, 0114 266 9549 Peace G.H., 8 rooms, 17.50pppn, 0114 267 0760 St Peligrino Hotel, 11 rooms, 2.pppn, 0114 268 1953 Etruria House Hotel, 11 rooms, 21pppn, 0114 266 2241 Hunter House Hotel, 24 rooms, 25pppn, 0114 266 2709 Roslyn Court Hotel, 22 rooms, 24.50pppn, 0114 266 6188 Westbourne House Hotel, 14 rooms, 32.50pppn, 0114 266 0109 Forte Posthouse, 127 rooms, 42.50pppn, 0114 267 0067 Other Accommodation There is more accomodation available in Sheffield. You can either get this from your team contact or you can call Destination Sheffield on (0114) 273 4671 or 273 4673. Finally there is limited floorspace. However teams who wish to take this option must justify their requirement. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 13 10:10:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15076 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:09:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15069 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:09:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f131.hotmail.com [207.82.251.10]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA05516 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:09:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 79408 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 1999 09:09:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990413090915.79407.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.50.71.154 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:09:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.50.71.154] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Dublin Tickect availible !!!! Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:09:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One train tickect from Leeds to Dublin for £28 availible this weekend. If anyone interested in going to the tourney please call Arun asap on 0113 281 6244 - daytime or 0113 2249680 - eves. You are welcome to pick up with the Janitors, Arun ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 14 15:11:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA05091 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:11:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA05072 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:11:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from ns0.infotrade.co.uk (ns0.infotrade.co.uk [194.72.246.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA08658 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:10:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1.infotrade.co.uk (mail1.infotrade.co.uk [194.72.246.14]) by ns0.infotrade.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA29779 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:00:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from d0097469@infotrade.co.uk) Received: from mail1.infotrade.co.uk ;14 Apr 1999 15:03:02 Received: from liv454.infotrade.co.uk ;Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:10:50 Received: by liv454.infotrade.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE8687.81B0B0E0@liv454.infotrade.co.uk>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:00:16 +-100 Message-ID: <01BE8687.81B0B0E0@liv454.infotrade.co.uk> From: NIALL GOGGIN To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Cool Runnings......... Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:59:28 +-100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE8687.81B85200" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE8687.81B85200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 As far as I'm concerned Masters should enter Worlds, either with the = team we have or with anyone else who decides nearer the time that they = want to play. Lack of experience didn't stop the Jamaican Bobsled team = entering the Olympics so it shouldn't be stopping us! Come on all you old gits out there, pull your fingers out. Let's show = the youngsters what we're made of. SEE YOU AT WORLDS! Niall. Slipdisc. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE8687.81B85200 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhAOAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSQBgCkAQAAAQAAAA0AAAADAAAwAwAAAAsADw4AAAAAAgH/DwEA AABVAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAJ2JyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVr JwBTTVRQAGJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrAAAAAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAA HgADMAEAAAAbAAAAYnJpdGRpc2NAY3N2LndhcndpY2suYWMudWsAAAMAFQwBAAAAAgH5DwEAAABV AAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAJ2JyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrJwBT TVRQAGJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrAAAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAdAAAAJ2Jy aXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrJwAAAAACAQswAQAAACAAAABTTVRQOkJSSVRESVNDQENT Vi5XQVJXSUNLLkFDLlVLAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAD/FsBBIABABcA AABDb29sIFJ1bm5pbmdzLi4uLi4uLi4uAJ8GAQWAAwAOAAAAzwcEAA4ADgA7ABwAAwBQAQEggAMA DgAAAM8HBAAOAA4AOwAcAAMAUAEBCYABACEAAAAyMzA2RUI2Mjc5RjJEMjExQjA1NjQ0NDU1MzU0 MDAwMAC5BgEDkAYAdAAAAAYAAABAADkAYME9A3+GvgEeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AHwwB AAAAGQAAAEQwMDk3NDY5QGluZm90cmFkZS5jby51awAAAABAAAcwwNcXMX6GvgFAAAgwYME9A3+G vgEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAbRU= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE8687.81B85200-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 14 15:28:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07620 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:28:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07599 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:27:58 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10619 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:27:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:25:38 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:25:36 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FDC0@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Cool Runnings......... Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:25:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Let's not also forgot Eddie "the Eagle" Edwards..... > -----Original Message----- > From: D0097469@infotrade.co.uk [SMTP:D0097469@infotrade.co.uk] > Sent: 14 April 1999 14:59 > To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: Cool Runnings......... > > > Hi all, > > As far as I'm concerned Masters should enter Worlds, either with the team > we have or with anyone else who decides nearer the time that they want to > play. Lack of experience didn't stop the Jamaican Bobsled team entering > the Olympics so it shouldn't be stopping us! > Come on all you old gits out there, pull your fingers out. Let's show the > youngsters what we're made of. > > SEE YOU AT WORLDS! > > Niall. > Slipdisc. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 12:14:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA00124 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:14:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00115 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:14:22 +0100 (BST) From: Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com Received: from soolin.barclayscapital.com (hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA19935 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:14:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.barclayscapital.com ([141.228.4.66]) by soolin.barclayscapital.com via smtpd (for [172.30.33.246]) with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 11:14:18 UT Received: from finn.barclaycapital.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.barclayscapital.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA11495 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:14:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.barclayscapital.com by finn.barclaycapital.net via smtpd (for hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 11:13:26 UT Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Message-Id: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Anyone want a game in London on 24th April ? Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:07:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We are looking for a team to play a practice game with on Saturday 24th April, probably in the afternoon at Regent's Park. Any takers ? Mark Albatross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information about Barclays Capital, please visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group unless otherwise specifically stated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 14:48:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22536 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:48:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22529 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:48:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23822 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:48:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-87.lipitor.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.76.215] helo=roger) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10XmV8-00069V-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:48:19 +0100 Message-ID: <00a201be8746$9539b480$02010180@roger.kbw.co.uk> Reply-To: "Pete Harvey" From: "Pete Harvey" To: Subject: Press Pack plea Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:45:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009F_01BE874E.A7343D10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01BE874E.A7343D10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, does anyone have an ultimate press pack suitable for interested = groups/potential sponsors? let me know Harv ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01BE874E.A7343D10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,
 
does anyone have an ultimate press pack suitable for = interested groups/potential sponsors?
 
let me know
 
Harv
------=_NextPart_000_009F_01BE874E.A7343D10-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 16:54:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13983 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:53:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13971 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:53:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd122.hotmail.com [207.82.252.186]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA05493 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:53:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 8299 invoked by uid 0); 15 Apr 1999 15:53:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990415155318.8298.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.2.203 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:53:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.2.203] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 1 Lost property Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:53:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Can whoever has the list of LP from Hitchin please mail it to me? Cheers Bes* Jes* Soup - Catch the flavour ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 18:32:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA28605 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:31:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28593 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:31:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14239 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:31:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-048.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.48]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA04122; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:25:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00b201be8766$04b5f480$30a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "Pete Harvey" , Subject: Re: Press Pack plea Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:57:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE8769.6C925DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE8769.6C925DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete, Did you try Jon Hope? I seem to remember suggesting him (being the BUF = Publicity bloke!). I'd be a bit miffed if he hasn't come up with = anything. Ben -----Original Message----- From: Pete Harvey To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 15 April 1999 14:53 Subject: Press Pack plea =20 =20 Dear All, =20 does anyone have an ultimate press pack suitable for interested = groups/potential sponsors? =20 let me know =20 Harv ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE8769.6C925DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pete,
 
Did you try Jon Hope? I seem to remember suggesting = him (being=20 the BUF Publicity bloke!). I'd be a bit miffed if he hasn't come up with = anything.
 
Ben
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Pete Harvey <harvey@as-if.com>
To: = britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk= =20 <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk= >
Date:=20 15 April 1999 14:53
Subject: Press Pack=20 plea

Dear All,
 
does anyone have an ultimate press pack suitable = for=20 interested groups/potential = sponsors?
 
let me know
 
Harv
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE8769.6C925DC0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 18:39:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA29872 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:39:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29860 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:39:22 +0100 (BST) From: Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com Received: from soolin.barclayscapital.com (hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA16043 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:39:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.barclayscapital.com ([141.228.4.66]) by soolin.barclayscapital.com via smtpd (for [172.30.33.246]) with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:39:17 UT Received: from finn.barclaycapital.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.barclayscapital.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA19113 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:39:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.barclayscapital.com by finn.barclaycapital.net via smtpd (for hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) with SMTP; 15 Apr 1999 17:38:28 UT Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Message-Id: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Trains from London to Sheffield Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:32:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA29864 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone planning on getting the train from London to Sheffield for Tour II should book tickets soon, as there aren't many cheap tickets available - certainly on the Friday evening trains. They are doing a "Four for £39" special - a bargain compared to the cheapest other tickets of £27 or £34. Phone 08457 125678 to book. Mark (feeling like a trainspotter after writing this) Albatross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information about Barclays Capital, please visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group unless otherwise specifically stated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 19:43:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA07787 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:42:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA07779 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:42:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA18139 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:42:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:39:15 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:41:05 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED37C@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Jester Bit'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Tour 1 Lost property Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:40:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk No - I don't intend mailing the lost property list to anyone, as it is inexcess of two large bin bags worth. If you lost anythin at Hitchin mail me with what you lost, and I will look for it. The only major item that has been unclaimed is a pair of pescription glasses in a soft Oakley sunglasses case. Chris > ---------- > From: Jester Bit[SMTP:jester_bit@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:53 PM > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Tour 1 Lost property > > Hi > > Can whoever has the list of LP from Hitchin > please mail it to me? > > Cheers > Bes* > Jes* > > Soup - Catch the flavour > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 15 23:28:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03744 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:27:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03739 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:27:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28370 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:27:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Xubh-0001Yt-0A; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:27:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:28:29 +0100 To: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline Fonseka Subject: Re: Charity Event In-Reply-To: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FDA4@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Okay, okay, enough with the lecture already! I will be there if someone can give me clearer directions on how to find the place! Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers / First Touch In message <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FDA4@bell.open.ac.uk>, M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk writes >The response to my previous message requesting assitance on the 25th has >been non-existant. Am I right in thinking that there are no London-area >players prepared to give up a few hours on a Sunday for beer and charity, in >order to introduce our sport to a captive audience, possibly recruit some >new players, and get yet more much needed publicty, potentially on a >national scale? > >The weekend was specifically chosen because it was free of Ultimate >activity. The women's tournie has since been scheduled but that still >leaves a lot of players free. If you can read this and say you don't want >to see more publicity for Ultimate, you don't want more players and you >don't want to help a charity cause then congratulations. I prefer to think >that the majority of you do not think like that. > >Please make a small committment and support this event. The orginal >message, with a vague outline of the event, is below. > > > >Mark > > >Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to make an Ultimate team of >enthusiastic (quite possibly drunken) charitable disc sport virgins in ten >minutes. If you are up to the challenge and available on Sunday 25th April >please read on..... > > >A charity event in aid of the Parkinson's Disease Society will take place on >this day in Ealing. Roughly twelve corporate teams are taking part in what >is supposed to be a relaxed, but competetive nonetheless, event. I have a >feeling there are five sports altogether, but don't have any information on >the others just yet. > >It's a standard two-pool, round-robin format - each team will get to play >each other at each sport. We get only thirty minutes to explain the rules, >teach the throws and unleash them on each other. > >As you will all know, there's nothing happening that weekend, and for anyone >in the London area it's really not too far to travel and IT IS FOR CHARITY! >Also, people with big mouths and lots of charisma required to charm the >attendant GQ Active and Mens Health teams into covering Ultimate/Golf. >Failing that, rich/sexy/violent people required to bribe/shag/beat them into >action. > >Get in touch if you can help in any way. Cheers for reading..... > -- Adeline Fonseka From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 16 00:08:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA08187 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:08:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08178 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:08:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA00398 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:08:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-74.visine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.74] helo=irenefirmedow88.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10XvEy-0005om-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:08:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be8793$56d08140$4a5e883e@irenefirmedow88.freeserve.co.uk> From: "Darth Maul" To: Subject: Re: Tour 1 Lost property Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:48:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris To: 'Jester Bit' Cc: 'BritDisc' Date: 15 April 1999 17:49 Subject: RE: Tour 1 Lost property >No - I don't intend mailing the lost property list to anyone, as it is >inexcess of two large bin bags worth. If you lost anythin at Hitchin mail me >with what you lost, and I will look for it. > >The only major item that has been unclaimed is a pair of pescription glasses >in a soft Oakley sunglasses case. > >Chris > >> ---------- >> From: Jester Bit[SMTP:jester_bit@hotmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:53 PM >> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >> Subject: Tour 1 Lost property >> >> Hi >> >> Can whoever has the list of LP from Hitchin >> please mail it to me? >> >> Cheers >> Bes* >> Jes* >> >> Soup - Catch the flavour >> >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 16 00:25:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA11193 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:25:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11187 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:25:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01737 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:25:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-112.manganese.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.112] helo=irenefirmedow88.freeserve.co.uk) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10XubL-00073T-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:27:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be8795$bdaa8b20$700c883e@irenefirmedow88.freeserve.co.uk> From: "Darth Maul" To: Subject: Fingers 6 web site Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:13:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is for all Fingers 6 players old and new. There is a new Fingers web site found here: http://members.tripod.co.uk/Maul/index.html It has info on the new generation Fingers players, well the ones that bothered to help me. It is a new site so it will be updated with Ultimate things soon, but for now there is a message book and information page. Give it a go and tell me what you think. Cheers, Mauly F6. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 16 09:50:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA25927 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:50:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25917 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:50:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mcfeely.interaccess.com (mcfeely.interaccess.com [207.208.133.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22315 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:50:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [206.183.83.99]) by mcfeely.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id DAA24381 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:50:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: FROM exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com BY mailhost.spencerstuart.com ; Fri Apr 16 03:52:21 1999 Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2TTJX10H>; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:53:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'Masters'" Subject: GB Masters Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:49:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all We've finally done it. At the World Ultimate Clubs Championship in St Andrews this summer, there *will* be a Masters team representing Great Britain. Now that we have a fully-fuelled bandwagon, (and nothing to pay until late next month!) anyone who wants to jump on, please get in touch with Nolan Taylor, David MacKay (when he's back from his hols next week) or myself. Practices and training will be arranged in the very near future, probably even entering a couple of the tournaments in May. Cheers Wayne Home 0171 733 6046 Work 0171 298 3365 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 16 12:55:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22238 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:55:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22227 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:55:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA06855 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:55:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10Y7DD-0000CK-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:55:11 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 16 Apr 99 12:55:10 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 16 Apr 99 12:55:10 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:55:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Purple Haze & York X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <14D3F6B5C9F@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a phone contact for anyone from Purple Haze (can't get any answer from Beardy's phone) or Yorkie Bar Kids as neither have responded to my emails. Thanks, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 16 21:48:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28083 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:48:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28077 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00214 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10YFWm-000Coa-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:47:57 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:33:34 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I - game scores needed MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Tour I seemed to work out pretty well - no nasty ties, and all teams seemed to make sense of the format and schedule and work their way through. Thing is, I want a record of ALL the game scores! So, here's what I think I'm missing, please inform me of the scorelines: SATURDAY: Pool B: UTI W v L Wyld Stallyns UTI W v L Twin Peaks Wyld Stallyns W v L Twin Peaks Pool C: Chevron Action Flash W v L Jedi Pool E: Strange Blue W v L Gael Force Pool F: Nightfever W v L Fingers 6 Nightfever W v L Blue Arse Flies Too Fingers 6 W v L Blue Arse Flies Too Pool G: S.O.U.P. W v L Whiplash Pool H: Blue Arse Flies W v L Mild Mannered Janitors Blue Arse Flies W v L Phat 'Eds Mild Mannered Janitors W v L Phat 'Eds CrossOver Games: Catch 22 W v L Blue Arse Flies UTI W v L S.O.U.P Mohawk Mwnci Magic L v W Skunks Strange Blue L v W Fluid Druids Nightfever W v L Jedi Twin Peaks (W) L v W Whiplash Bliss (W) W v L Blue Arse Flies Too (C) Phat 'Eds W v L Hurricane Albatross W v L Slipdisc Fingers 6 L v W K-Niggets SUNDAY: Knockouts: Headrush W v L Nightfever Red L v W Fluid Druids S.O.U.P. W v L Skunks Blue Arse Flies W v L First Touch Jedi L v W Smudge Strange Blue W v L Bliss (W) Mohawk Mwnci See W v L Whiplash Wyld Stallyns W v L Oxford Sharks Pool M: Gael Force L v W Mild Mannered Janitors Blue Arse Flies Too W v L Mild Mannered Janitors Pool Y: Phat 'Eds W v L Fingers 6 Phat 'Eds W v L Slipdisc Fingers 6 L v W Slipdisc Pool Z: Albatross W v L K-Niggets Albatross W v L Hurricane K-Niggets W v L Hurricane SemiFinals: Catch 22 W v L Dough Boy U.T.I. L v W Chevron Action Flash Headrush L v W Blue Arse Flies First Touch W v L Nightfever Skunks L v W Red Smudge L v W Strange Blue Wyld Stallyns W v L Mohawk Mwnci See Oxford Sharks W v L Jedi Whiplash W v L Bliss (W) Finals: UTI W v L Dough Boy Blue Arse Flies W v L S.O.U.P. Fluid Druids W v L Headrush First Touch L v W Red Skunks L v W Nightfever Strange Blue L v W Wyld Stallyns Mohawk Mwnci See L v W Smudge Oxford Sharks W v L Whiplash Bliss (W) L v W Jedi Phat 'Eds W v L Albatross K-Niggets W v L Slipdisc Fingers 6 W v L Hurricane Cheers Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk +44/0-181-663-4856 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 16 21:48:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA28117 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:48:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28112 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:48:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA07672 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:48:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10YFX1-0007CE-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:48:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:04:24 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Subject: Tom's Tourney : final details MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just thought I'd make you all aware of the number of British teams that will be competing internationally in the near future... if I remember rightly, there will even be a webcam set up for the weekend. Anyone care to predict/brag (where's Colin when you need him?) as to the likely results of the Tournament? Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Dear Fluid Druids, We'll welcome you to the 7th edition of our Ultimate Tournament in Brugge. Once again we'll have 24 teams playing : 7 French teams : Friselis (Versailles), Hot (Paris), Hultic (Le Havre), Invalids (Paris), Iznogoud (Stains), Sun (Créteil), Ultimatum (Sèvres) 6 Dutch teams : Bfrisbee2's (Nijmegen), Disc Devils (Twente), Dutch Women (national team), Force Elektro (Delft), LCF (Eindhoven), Red Lights (Amsterdam) 6 English teams : Fluid Druids (Cardiff), K-Niggets (Kingston), Night Fever (Sandwich), Red (Leicester), Unter The Influence (London), Violently Happy (London) 4 Belgian teams : Frisdingue Dave (Namur), Freezzz Beezzz (Brugge), Spin H (Namur), XLR8RS (Brussel) 1 Swiss team : Flying Colors (Oberkirch) Some tournament details : * every team will play 5 games on saturday and 3 on sunday. * games will take 30 minutes on saturday and 40 minutes on sunday. * captain's meeting will start at 9.30 AM on saturday. * the first game of the tournament starts at 10 AM sharp on saturday. * the final will be terminated around 4 PM on Sunday Check out http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz for all other details. You'll also find a map of Brugge on the website. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 17 20:37:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA15420 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:36:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA15415 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:36:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f204.hotmail.com [207.82.251.95]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA02315 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:36:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 14157 invoked by uid 0); 17 Apr 1999 19:36:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990417193654.14156.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.56.97.73 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:36:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.56.97.73] From: "Alison Colyer" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Calling Alexa Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:36:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get a contact for Alexa Troedson, an aussie living in Cambridge and playing on Twin Peaks. If anyone knows her e-mail or number (or if you happen to be on britdisc and get this yourself) can you please let me know? Prefereably before next weekend. Thanks heaps, Alison ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 19 07:47:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA16638 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA16633 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13610 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA11474 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199904190647.HAA11474@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Sunday 25th April 1999 Charity Sports Day in aid of the Parkinson's Disease Society (1 day) @ Ealing, London [Outdoor Ultimate] London-based corporate charity event. Further details will emerge on BritDisc. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam (4 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Fiesta (2 days) TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 19th June 1999 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 19 09:00:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21160 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:59:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21150 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:59:49 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:55:33 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Freestyle Video Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Larry W. Imperiale" wrote: >The FPA just produced a 1.5 hour awesome freestyle instructional video. It >covers everything in detail with a fun story. It's not a promo video but >instructional. So save you euro dollars or whatever else you use and plan >to get a copy in Rimini. I'll try to get some copies in PAL. I'm not sure >of the cost, but it won't be real cheap as it's long and professionally >done. Did any of the BD'ers who went to Rimini get to see this video? What did you think? I don't suppose any of you brought a copy back to Britain with you - if you did, please get in touch. Thanks, Sam Neilson (Freestyler wannabe ... ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 19 17:01:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA12513 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:01:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12503; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:01:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23645; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:01:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10ZGT1-0001WU-02; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:00:15 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 19 Apr 99 17:00:16 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 19 Apr 99 17:00:11 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:00:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <199599A2482@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: National Student Outdoor Championships Venue: Lady Manners School, Bakewell Dates: 1st/2nd May 1999 I am still waiting to hear from the following teams to tell me if they are coming to the Student outdoors. PLEASE LET ME KNOW EITHER WAY. If you are coming please also put a cheque for eighty pounds made payable to More Than Just A Tournament in the post to the address in the signature of this email. Falling Skies Fingers 6 Flying Sorcerers Hulltimate Purple Haze Shooting Stars Toxic Uriel UWE Yorkie Bar Kids Thanks, Si Weeks -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 19 17:16:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA15276 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:16:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15269 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:16:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f202.hotmail.com [209.185.130.112]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA25044 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:16:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 43289 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 16:16:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990419161622.43288.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.234.147.138 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:16:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.234.147.138] From: "Lars Patel" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Slipdisc Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:16:22 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a message for Slipdisc players to get in touch with me. Lars _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 19 19:24:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA03793 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:24:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03785 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:24:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA22252 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:24:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-028.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.28]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA03052; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:19:52 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <007001be8a92$1e8a7000$1ca492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Ultimate Association Proposal: Your response Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:24:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, A big thank you to all those who responded about our proposal to turn the BUF into an association. Without exception, all the responses were positive to the principle of the idea. It seems we have overcome the biggest hurdle facing the plan! Many of you raised important questions about the practicalities of the proposal. We now hope to flesh it out further taking these questions into consideration. Specifically, the following concerns were raised:- 1) How to avoid discouraging new/casual/foreign players. Clearly asking a brand new player to pay full membership is not on. 2) How to charge university students appropriately. Some of you favour a lower student individual membership rate (could this still be covered by the student unions???). 3) How to deal with students who play for non-student teams. 4) That the BUF is transparent about what is being paid for and what it provides to members. 5) What actual budget would be required to fund the association - can this be met from the membership fees? Would some degree of tournament taxing with lower membership fees be appropriate? 6) Who will recruit and then supervise the employed persons. 7) Changes to the organisation's constitution. There will - we hope - be an issue of Ultimatum circulated soon which will include the flyer which most of you have already seen. We need to make sure the non-Internet teams get a chance to respond before ploughing on. If you have not yet expressed your thoughts on the proposal then please feel free to contact us:- British Ultimate Federation buf@ultimateweb.co.uk 0116 2559638 PO Box 1 Swan House Leicester LE9 5ZW Thanks again Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 10:29:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15261 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:26:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15256 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:26:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from nw177.netaddress.usa.net (nw177.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA04410 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:26:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1241 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 1999 09:26:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420092643.1240.qmail@nw177.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.77 by nw177 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Tue Apr 20 09:26:43 GMT 1999 Date: 20 Apr 99 10:26:43 BST From: M Allen To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lars....here we are X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA15257 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yeah, I could, Lars, if I had an e-mail address for you. Here's mine...... mta99@usa.net Are you back or what? *with it* Mal. .......\\#//.......Mal. ......[ o o ]......mta99@usa.net .........^.........++ 44 121 414 3526 ....8..\_/..8.....++ 44 121 458 1607 88+++++++88.... .........+......... ........./.\........ ...ooO...Ooo..... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 11:45:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA29180 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:44:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29168; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:44:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09884; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:44:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10ZXzH-0006bP-00; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:42:43 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 20 Apr 99 11:42:43 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 20 Apr 99 11:42:33 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:42:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Entry Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <1AC1003493C@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tournament Entry A list of all the teams who have paid up is shown below. Can someone from the teams who have not paid up and those teams on the list of possibles please contact me to say what you are doing. If there are any other teams wishing to enter the tournament there are still places available, but please contact me to let me know of your intention to come. Tournament Fees Paid Albatross Bliss Blue Arse Flies Blue Arse Flies Too Dough Boy First Touch Fluid Druids Gael Force Headrush Jedi Children Mild Mannered Jannitors Mwnci Mohawk Magic Nightfever Pookas Phat 'Eds Red I Red II Skunks Slipdisc SMUDGE SOUP Strange Blue Twin Peaks Whiplash Wyld Stallions In the Post Chevron Action Flash Under The Influence Unpaid Tournament Fees Catch 22 Sharks Possibles Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds Great Britain Masters Strange Blue II See you in Sheffield, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 11:52:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00400 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:52:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00391; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:52:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07680; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:52:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10ZY70-0006uL-01; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:50:42 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 20 Apr 99 11:50:42 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 20 Apr 99 11:50:38 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:50:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Accommodation Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <1AC32780FA4@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Accommodation Update The best options are filling up extremely fast. Close to the venue the best option is the Sheffield Moat House. We have filled our allocation, but the final six remaining rooms in the hotel have now also been made available to us for Friday and Saturday night. The rooms are twins. To reserve your place, call Lisa Wild on 0114 282 9988 and quote Ref: 1334. Close to the party the best option was Earnshaw Hall, but it is now FULL. However, two of the other halls of residences now have a limited number of rooms available within 15 minutes walk from the party. The cost is 10.50 pounds per night B&B. To book contact Jane Childs on 0114 222 8831 at Ranmoor Hall or Nicky on 0114 222 8861 at Tapton Hall. See you in Sheffield, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 12:09:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03247 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:08:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@holly-fddi [137.205.4.5]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03237 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:08:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from frost.csv.warwick.ac.uk (frost [137.205.65.150]) by holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10760 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:08:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from FROST/SpoolDir by frost.csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 20 Apr 99 12:08:36 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by FROST (Mercury 1.43); 20 Apr 99 12:08:28 +0100 From: "Philip Trostel" Organization: University of Warwick To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:08:25 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: need contacts for whiplash & slipdisc Reply-to: p.a.trostel@warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <44BA8629F9@frost.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk apologies to those from other teams. can someone please let me know the contacts for whiplash and/or bears and slipdisc? thanks. phil trostel ************************* Philip A Trostel p.a.trostel@warwick.ac.uk Department of Economics University of Warwick Coventry CV4 7AL Great Britain tel (44) 1203 523 034 fax (44) 1203 523 032 ************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 16:04:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA13748 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:03:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13735 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:03:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay02.netaddress.usa.net (relay02.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.182]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA25317 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:03:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 24430 invoked from network); 20 Apr 1999 15:03:06 -0000 Received: from www0k.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.40) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 1999 15:03:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 27678 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 1999 15:03:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990420150306.27677.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.40 by www0k via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Tue Apr 20 15:03:06 GMT 1999 Date: 20 Apr 99 16:03:06 BST From: M Allen To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SlipDisc contact-able X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA13736 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here is a contact addresses for SlipDisc Ultimate: mta99@usa.net and a website: http://members.tripod.com/slipdisc/intro1.html Any help? Mal. .......\\#//.......Mal. ......[ o o ]......mta99@usa.net .........^.........++ 44 121 414 3526 ....8..\_/..8.....++ 44 121 458 1607 88+++++++88.... .........+......... ........./.\........ ...ooO...Ooo..... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 16:50:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA21702 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:49:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21679 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:49:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from ns0.infotrade.co.uk ([194.72.246.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28307 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:49:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1.infotrade.co.uk (mail1.infotrade.co.uk [194.72.246.14]) by ns0.infotrade.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA23604 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:49:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from d0097469@infotrade.co.uk) Received: from mail1.infotrade.co.uk ;20 Apr 1999 16:40:29 Received: from 194.74.241.164 ;Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:49:14 Received: by liv352.infotrade.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BE8B4C.3650E880@liv352.infotrade.co.uk>; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:38:25 +-100 Message-ID: <01BE8B4C.3650E880@liv352.infotrade.co.uk> From: NIALL GOGGIN To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Masters..... Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:37:01 +-100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE8B4C.365A1040" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE8B4C.365A1040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I would just like to apologise if I offended anybody with the 'Cool = Runnings' mail. The idea was not to be flippant but just to say; 'Come = on people we have got a team so lets do it with the numbers we've got = and hope more join later'. I agree that a team of top players could be = got together for Worlds but where were they when the money was = requested? People have known about Worlds for months now and still = haven't come forward so lets go with the 12 or so committed, paid up = players and represent our country. After all it would be embarrassing if = the host country couldn't field a team. I do disagree with the fact that if better or more players commit = themselves then those of us that have paid are liable to be dropped from = the squad closer to the tournament when people have booked leave for it = etc.=20 As I said at the start I never meant to cause any animosity between team = members. Charlie's is the voice of reason and we should all pull = together on this and go and have a good week's Ultimate. Niall (my wife can't believe that for the first time in my life I've = actually managed to be controversial about something!!) Goggin. Slipdisc. PS. See you ALL at Sheffield? ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE8B4C.365A1040 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IhkPAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSQBgCkAQAAAQAAAA0AAAADAAAwBwAAAAsADw4AAAAAAgH/DwEA AABVAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAJ0JyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVr JwBTTVRQAEJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrAAAAAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAA HgADMAEAAAAbAAAAQnJpdGRpc2NAY3N2LndhcndpY2suYWMudWsAAAMAFQwBAAAAAgH5DwEAAABV AAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAJ0JyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrJwBT TVRQAEJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrAAAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAdAAAAJ0Jy aXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrJwAAAAACAQswAQAAACAAAABTTVRQOkJSSVRESVNDQENT Vi5XQVJXSUNLLkFDLlVLAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAHRFsBBIABAA0A AABNYXN0ZXJzLi4uLi4AxQMBBYADAA4AAADPBwQAFAAQACUAAQACACYBASCAAwAOAAAAzwcEABQA EAAlAAEAAgAmAQEJgAEAIQAAADREOTZBRkExMDJGN0QyMTFCMDU2NDQ0NTUzNTQwMDAwANYGAQOQ BgB0AAAABgAAAEAAOQCADAGiQ4u+AR4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAZAAAARDAw OTc0NjlAaW5mb3RyYWRlLmNvLnVrAAAAAEAABzCAFB5pDIu+AUAACDCADAGiQ4u+AR4APQABAAAA AQAAAAAAAABqEw== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE8B4C.365A1040-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 20 21:02:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25878 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:01:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA25867; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:01:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27957; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:01:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-035.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.35]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA04755; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:56:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01bb01be8b68$d9a6cec0$23a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: Cc: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: need contacts for whiplash & slipdisc Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:48:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As ever, contact details for all UK teams can be found on an Excel 97 format spreadsheet at: http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/allteams.xls If anyone needs this in another format please ask. Ben BUF Secretary. -----Original Message----- From: Philip Trostel To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 20 April 1999 12:11 Subject: need contacts for whiplash & slipdisc apologies to those from other teams. can someone please let me know the contacts for whiplash and/or bears and slipdisc? thanks. phil trostel ************************* Philip A Trostel p.a.trostel@warwick.ac.uk Department of Economics University of Warwick Coventry CV4 7AL Great Britain tel (44) 1203 523 034 fax (44) 1203 523 032 ************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 00:25:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA06583 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:24:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA06574 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:24:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail2.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA08009 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:24:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dialup-0333.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.145.77]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA18421 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:24:28 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <004801be8b84$8c047980$7090cbc1@default> From: "Eoghan Barry" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fear and loathing at the Dublin Open Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:20:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This year's Dublin Open lived up to the hard drinking standards set over the past four years. Twelve teams managed to shake off their hangovers in time to compete. The final results were: 12: UWE 11: Aberdeen 10: Bears 9 : PDQ =7: Abusive Fever =7: Bears 6 : Mwnci See (Spirit) 5 : Whiplash (Plate) 4: Mild Mannered Janitors 3: Pookas II 2: Pookas I 1: Mild Mannered Janitors (Cup) At the end of the first day four teams finished 4-0 - the two Dublin squads and two contingents of Janitors (generously laced with serious drinkers from Jedi, Chevron, Catch etc.) By mutual agreement the semis were set up as Dublin vs. Leeds. Fortunately the Pookas second team lost their semi while the Worlds team scraped a one point victory thus avoiding the potential horror of seeing the irish Worlds squad beaten by their own second team. The final was a hard fought battle - Pookas pulled 5-2 ahead thanks to a few early mistakes by the Janitors but once the Janitors settled down they quickly managed to level the game and long points were traded back and forth until the game was capped at 11-11. Janitors took the point on the cap and though the Pookas pulled one back the Leeds crew punched the winning point home to emerge the victors. With a shocking disregard for the tradition set by previous Dublin mudwrestling tourneys it stayed dry the whole weekend except for a couple of hail showers during the finals. Man of the weekend had to be our very own Jamie 'Chops' Crick who managed to break his nose while attempting to head- butt an Abusive Fever player in the kneecaps in the first game of the tourney. He spent the next two games in Beaumont Hospital, returned for the last game of the day and then djed the party later that night. He was last seen around 3 am clutching a bottle of vodka and a large handrolled cigarette, vociferously demanding 'phat beats'. UWE came back from a 20-1 defeat by Aberdeen to thrash all comers mercilessly in a tequila snorting competition which demonstrates a clear sense of the priorities underlying the Dublin Open. I'd like to thank all the teams who made the trip over (since I was supposed to mail out all the invites and didn't) and everyone who came to the party (since I was supposed to arrange the venue. And didn't). It was a great weekend and hopefully we'll see most of you again. Dr Benway Pookas Minister For Propaganda From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 09:44:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06721 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:43:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06708 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:42:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from FIREWALL.target-systems.com (mail.target-systems.com [194.168.207.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25293 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:42:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from as400a.target-systems.com by FIREWALL.target-systems.com (IBM Firewall for AS/400/4.2.0) id JAA001.24; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:42:48 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:45:18 +0100 To: "BRITDISC" From: "Darren Evans" X-From-OfficeVision: "Darren Evans" Importance: medium X-Mailer: IBM Internet Messaging Framework Message-Id: <924684318-0-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> X-MIME-Engine: v0.58 Subject: Congratulations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <924684318-1-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA06709 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having just arrived at work, i would like to commend whoever it was who got Simon Mayo to mention Ultimate Frisbee On Radio 1 about ten minutes ago. Good Effort!! See you in Sheffielf Two Hands Night Fever Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 11:33:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24297 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:32:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24279 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:32:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd124.hotmail.com [207.82.252.188]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA07117 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:32:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22621 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 1999 10:32:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990421103226.22620.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.2.204 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:32:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.2.204] From: "Jester Bit" To: darren.evans@target-systems.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Congratulations Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:32:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Having just arrived at work, i would like to commend whoever it was who got >Simon Mayo to mention Ultimate Frisbee On Radio 1 about ten minutes ago. Good >Effort!! It was me! :) Thing is, that Mayo is so dense he read only read out my freind's name and not mine, DOH! Next time I'll see if I can crow bar in 'It's a game between two sides of seven players,' followed by all the other rules one at a time until everyone knows what Ultimate is. ;) All the bes* Jes* Soup - Catch the Flavour ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 11:43:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26243 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26231 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.richardsbutler.com (mail.richardsbutler.com [195.152.50.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08384 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by RBLON04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:42 +0100 Message-ID: <7E5A7D5DF09ED211B59C00005A410C9A9CC867@RBLON04> From: "Stanwell-Smith, Helen" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: on the subject of publicity.... Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Disc golf takes to the skies....... I was flicking through the inflight magazine on a BA flight to Germany this weekend when I spotted an article on disc golf in the sports section! It was pretty complimentary and a good advert for the sport. Naturally I nabbed a copy so if anyone is interested I can mail the contents to them... Helen RICHARDS BUTLER INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM Beaufort House 15 St Botolph Street London EC3A 7EE England Authorised by the Law Society to conduct investment business. The partners of Richards Butler are either solicitors or registered foreign lawyers. A full list of partners and their professional qualifications is available at the above address. This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 14:56:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA29142 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29127 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14669 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:54:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.139.88] (helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10ZxSR-000Dil-0K; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:54:31 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:50:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4452130@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Stanwell-Smith, Helen'" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: on the subject of publicity.... Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:50:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I saw it as well, on a flight back from Tokyo, but respected the property of BA and left the copy in the seat pocket in front for some other passenger to read. Colin. -----Original Message----- From: Stanwell-Smith, Helen [SMTP:hjss@richardsbutler.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 11:43 AM To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Subject: on the subject of publicity.... Disc golf takes to the skies....... I was flicking through the inflight magazine on a BA flight to Germany this weekend when I spotted an article on disc golf in the sports section! It was pretty complimentary and a good advert for the sport. Naturally I nabbed a copy so if anyone is interested I can mail the contents to them... Helen RICHARDS BUTLER INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM Beaufort House 15 St Botolph Street London EC3A 7EE England Authorised by the Law Society to conduct investment business. The partners of Richards Butler are either solicitors or registered foreign lawyers. A full list of partners and their professional qualifications is available at the above address. This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 15:16:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA02656 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:14:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA02642 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:14:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.129.138]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA02459 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:14:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.92]) by beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06605 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:14:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from soton.ac.uk (lisa.aero.soton.ac.uk [152.78.240.161]) by cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with ESMTP id PAA24760 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:04:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <371DDBDF.14557C3F@soton.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:08:31 +0100 From: Paul Schuricht X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Mailing List Subject: Re: on the subject of publicity.... References: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4452130@LONSEX02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Those mags are there for you to take if you want. They like you to leave behind the emergency procedures card and the life jacket though. Sonic Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] wrote: > > I saw it as well, on a flight back from Tokyo, but respected the property of > BA and left the copy in the seat pocket in front for some other passenger to > read. > > Colin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stanwell-Smith, Helen [SMTP:hjss@richardsbutler.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 11:43 AM > To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: on the subject of publicity.... > > Disc golf takes to the skies....... > > I was flicking through the inflight magazine on a BA flight to Germany this > weekend when I spotted an article on disc golf in the sports section! > It was pretty complimentary and a good advert for the sport. Naturally I > nabbed a copy so if anyone is interested I can mail the contents to them... > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 15:27:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA04706 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:25:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04695 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:25:56 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA16733 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:25:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0004272C; Wed, 21 Apr 99 15:25:00 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:24:33 +0100 Message-ID: <0004272C.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re[2]: on the subject of publicity.... To: BritDisc Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk After all, Col (surely YOU would know this?), they use a part of the ticket money you pay to produce them... Wayne Paul Schuricht wrote: >Those mags are there for you to take if you want. They like you to leave >behind the emergency procedures card and the life jacket though. > >Sonic > >Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] wrote: >> >>I saw it as well, on a flight back from Tokyo, but respected the property of >>BA and left the copy in the seat pocket in front for some other passenger to >>read. >> >> Colin. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 16:47:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA18284 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18274 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:42 +0100 (BST) From: Tebewebb@aol.com Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21615 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from Tebewebb@aol.com (8052) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cTFTa05764; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:44:42 EDT Subject: Re: Ultimate Association Proposal: Your response To: buf@ultimateweb.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Tebewebb@aol.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In a message dated 4/19/99 2:29:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, buf@ultimateweb.co.uk writes: << 1) How to avoid discouraging new/casual/foreign players. Clearly asking a brand new player to pay full membership is not on. In the US, you can pay $5-10 per tournie "at the door", or pay $25 for the year. Stephen now Pocomoke, formerly Gun, permanently Happy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 21:14:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21640 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:13:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21608 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:13:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA02093 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:13:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11968 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 20:12:56 -0000 Received: from dyn186-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.186) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 20:12:56 -0000 Message-ID: <371E31B0.15D8085A@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:14:41 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] Another new feature Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ciao Ultimate Community, here we are again trying to help the ultimate community worldwide. For those of you who don't know, Ultilinks (http://www.ultilinks.com/) is the Ultimate Starting Point, with about 800 links to ultimate related sites around the world and much much more (read later). We have added another feature to Ultilinks that we think will make your life easier. It's called... Ultilinks Redirection Service ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Do you have a web page, but the URL is long and ugly and hard to remember? Would you like to have an address like http://www.ultilinks.com/goto/yournamehere instead? The Ultilinks Redirection Service will let you do that for free. Check it out at http://www.ultilinks.com/goto/ Another news from Ultilinks is that we are sponsoring the Zimbabwe ultimate site (http://www.ultilinks.com/sponsored/zimbabwe/). This is the first in what will hopefully be a wide range of ultimate sponsorship activities. And let me quickly list all the Ultilinks sections and features for you: Teams section ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/teams.html That's 450 links to ultimate sites in 31 different countries (all but the USA). Teams USA section ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://usa.ultilinks.com/ That's another 340 links to ultimate in the USA. The Rest ^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/therest.html Find here links to: *Upcoming Tournaments *Federations *Educational *Beach Ultimate *Online Shops *Useful links *Magazines & Articles *Fun links *Other Disc Sports The Search Engine ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://search.ultilinks.com/ The only search engine entirely devoted to Ultimate. It only lists ultimate related sites. The Tree ^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/tree.html or http://www.ultilinks.com/tree.gz (zipped) All of the above but in a tree-like structure, good for printing ABC Teams ^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/abc.html Links to all the teams in the world in alphabetical order. Ultilynx ^^^^^^^^ http://ultilynx.ultilinks.com/ All of the above but formatted for old browsers and/or slow connection. Go Random! ^^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/ click on "Go Random" A popup window that will open 1 to 10 randomly selected pages of the ones listed on Ultilinks. Picture of the Month ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/potm/ The best ultimate pictures of the entire WWW. Interviews ^^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/interviews/ Interviews to the ultimate V.I.P.s. Postcards ^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/postcards/ Virtual postcards for your friends and beloved ones. The Forum ^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/forum/ A bullettin board system for threaded discussions. The Chat ^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/chat/ A Java chat room for real-time discussions and virtual meetings. WUCC99 ^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ The official home page for World Clubs 99, St.Andrews, Scotland. Redirection Service ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ http://www.ultilinks.com/goto/ A redirection system for your home page. Get yourself an Ultilinks URL! Am I forgetting something? I might, so check for yourself at http://www.ultilinks.com/ Ciao, Peldi for the Ultilinks Staff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 21 22:20:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA28058 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:18:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28050 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:18:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA05555 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:18:44 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4611 invoked from network); 21 Apr 1999 21:18:38 -0000 Received: from usera711.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.68.203) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 1999 21:18:38 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be8c2a$b01a9600$cb4495c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: WFDF site Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:04:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc, I was looking through Ultimate sites on the web and found this article on the WFDF site. It discusses referees and sponsors in Ultimate, and raises a few interesting points. I thought people might be interested in it, and it might make us look at doing similar things in this country (or not). I've attached it in its web page form, hope you can all read it. Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 07:47:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA23007 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:46:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23002 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:46:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA15683 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:46:51 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 17521 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 06:46:46 -0000 Received: from userm016.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.77.66) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 06:46:46 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be8c6f$87a441e0$424d95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BritDisc" Subject: WFDF site 2 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:22:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE8C77.C20ECFA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE8C77.C20ECFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry. I forgot to attach the document to the last mail. It is attached to this one. Matt. 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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE8C77.C20ECFA0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 07:48:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA23131 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:48:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23123 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:48:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from hen.scotland.net (hen.scotland.net [194.247.65.129]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA21962 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:48:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [148.176.232.86] (helo=e1c2p4.scotland.net) by hen.scotland.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #7) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10aDHY-00067F-00; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:48:20 +0100 Received: by e1c2p4.scotland.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BE8C95.07862480@e1c2p4.scotland.net>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:52:11 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE8C95.07862480@e1c2p4.scotland.net> From: Michael Johnson To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Thursday's at Clapham? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:07:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anybody know if there is some midweek ultimate going on such as last years thursday evening at Clapham? MJ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 10:37:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA11569 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:35:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11555 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:35:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd118.hotmail.com [207.82.252.182]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22857 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:35:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 66871 invoked by uid 0); 22 Apr 1999 09:35:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990422093532.66870.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.2.205 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:35:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.2.205] From: "Jester Bit" To: Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:35:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Look what Matt's found: >In January, a marketing executive at >Jockey, the undergarment company best >known for bedroom-ready briefs, went >directly after Ultimate Frisbee as a potential >partner. >The Jockey sponsorship is a done deal: >officially this year's Nationals will be called >the 1999 Jockey UPA College >Championship. I can see it now... The Wonderbra Ultimat8 Tour The World Ultimate Emporio Armani Club Championships Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 10:48:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA13656 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:48:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13639 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:48:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from FIREWALL.target-systems.com (mail.target-systems.com [194.168.207.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA23739 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from as400a.target-systems.com by FIREWALL.target-systems.com (IBM Firewall for AS/400/4.2.0) id KAA001.96; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:49 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:07 +0100 To: "jester_bit@hotmail.com" , "Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com" cc: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" From: "Darren Evans" X-From-OfficeVision: "Darren Evans" Importance: medium X-Mailer: IBM Internet Messaging Framework Message-Id: <924774427-0-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> X-MIME-Engine: v0.58 Subject: Re[2]: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <924774427-1-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA13643 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What about the British Open G-String?? The List goes on... Two Hands Night Fever Say ooh.... la la........ la la...... c'mon, c'mon, ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate Author: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Date: 22/04/99 10:35 Look what Matt's found: >In January, a marketing executive at >Jockey, the undergarment company best >known for bedroom-ready briefs, went >directly after Ultimate Frisbee as a potential >partner. >The Jockey sponsorship is a done deal: >officially this year's Nationals will be called >the 1999 Jockey UPA College >Championship. I can see it now... The Wonderbra Ultimat8 Tour The World Ultimate Emporio Armani Club Championships Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 13:58:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA14859 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:56:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14842 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:55:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA28775 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:55:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 12398 invoked from network); 22 Apr 1999 12:55:26 -0000 Received: from usern651.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.85.176) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 12:55:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be8cba$eb8f5f00$b05595c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Re: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:20:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I should have seen this coming. It wasn't the idea of many a person running around in their pants that I liked, more the recognition for ultimate. The BUF are proposing that players become members not teams, and part of this involved having people employed by the BUF. Wouldn't sponsorship be a good way of raising money to employ people and also for raising the level of coverage of the sport, instead of making it a private affair. Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com -----Original Message----- From: Jester Bit To: Matthew.Lowe@dial.pipex.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 22 April 1999 10:35 Subject: Re: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate >Look what Matt's found: > >>In January, a marketing executive at >>Jockey, the undergarment company best >>known for bedroom-ready briefs, went >>directly after Ultimate Frisbee as a potential >partner. > >>The Jockey sponsorship is a done deal: >>officially this year's Nationals will be called >the 1999 Jockey UPA College >>Championship. > > >I can see it now... > >The Wonderbra Ultimat8 Tour > >The World Ultimate Emporio Armani Club >Championships > >Bes* >Jes* > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 15:05:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA26368 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26357 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:09 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA06470 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:04:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 00043A38; Thu, 22 Apr 99 15:01:31 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:01:43 +0100 Message-ID: <00043A38.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re[2]: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Author: "Matthew Lowe" >It wasn't the idea of many a person running around in their pants that I >liked, more the recognition for ultimate. Apart from the name-linking (and hence the "Ultimate players wear Jockeys" endorsement) in the advertising that is a part this sponsorship deal, what else do Jockey get out of it? - Photos of Ultimate players in their underwear? So why Ultimate, rather than mainstream sports with Celebrities who are household names? - Guarantees that no other underwear manufacturers will have sales stalls at the sponsored tournaments? Hmmm, ever seen an underwear store at a tournament? Do Jockey actually seem to be trying to help promote Ultimate, without too many benefits for themselves? Apologies for the cynicism, but from past experience sponsorship deals generally require something that cuts both ways - Ultimate players generally want the money (or whatever the money can buy: publicity, transport, kit...), but the sponsoring company wants something too - generally a decent advert, which is kind of difficult from an "alternative" sport with little or no media presence. Wayne Retter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 23:36:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA02510 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:34:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02500 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12179 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10aS2t-000LBN-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:34:12 +0000 Subject: Re: WFDF site 2, knickers to ultimate Date: Thu, 22 Apr 99 23:34:51 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I should have seen this coming. It wasn't the idea of many a person running >around in their pants that I liked, more the recognition for ultimate. The >BUF are proposing that players become members not teams, and part of this >involved having people employed by the BUF. Wouldn't sponsorship be a good >way of raising money to employ people and also for raising the level of >coverage of the sport, instead of making it a private affair. > >Matt Lowe Various individuals have gone seeking sponsorship before, with varying (generally low) degrees of success. Not thru lack of effort mind you. As Wayne rightly says, companies hope to get some kind of payback from their sponsorship endeavours, and as Ultimate stands at the moment, we have little to offer - we don't have crowds of spectators at our tournaments; we have no television audience; and we have a tiny player base compared to other sports. Rather than aggressively chasing sponsorship, I think it would be better to expend our limited energy and resources on building a solid foundation for the sport (which is what the BUF has been working towards for years). Ultimate then has a chance of developing into something more attractive to sponsors. That's my two cents, anyway. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 22 23:36:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA02509 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:34:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02496 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29723 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:34:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10aS2v-000LBN-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:34:13 +0000 Subject: Ultimatum - deadline approaching Date: Thu, 22 Apr 99 23:34:52 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there I'm currently working on a bumper issue of Ultimatum, which should be ready in time for Sheffield. If anyone has anything they'd like to get published in this issue, please can you think about it over the weekend and e-mail/carrier pigeon it to me by Tuesday evening next week. BTW, I don't seem to have anything about indoor nationals. If anyone fancies putting pen to paper on this topic, please go right ahead - otherwise it's results and nothing else. Also, any interesting photos (from any time since last June!) would be appreciated. Don't necessarily have to be action shots. Any pics from Worlds? Thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 23 00:40:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA28693 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:39:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA28688 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:39:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01953 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:39:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-027.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.27]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA07301 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:34:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00b001be8d11$25d921e0$1ba492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: FW: Regents Park - Where is the practice? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:26:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone help this chap out? Ben -----Original Message----- From: Sascha To: BUF Date: 22 April 1999 12:13 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Sascha >Address1: ************* >Address2: hackney >Post Code: >Telephone: 01819861838 >Fax: >Message: Could you please tell me where and when the Regents park drop in games are played. Cheers >sascha Mcdonald From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 23 18:39:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA24959 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:37:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24946 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:37:05 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA25260 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:37:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:04:30 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03116; Fri, 23 Apr 99 17:04:30 BST Message-Id: <9904231604.AA03116@damson.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:04:26 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: FAO: Portuguese Beach Tounament attendees X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Signed up for the Portuguese Beach tournament in June? Myself and two other players (both from Wyld Stallyns) are registered and are just about to book flights. We'd like to take maximum advantage of the present Evening Standard offer to get two return tickets for a total of GBP100, flying Stansted to Lisbon, thus we need another person. We're planning to go out between 12th and 14th June and return on the 21st and you'd need to be up for the same dates as us to use the offer. We've got the tokens for the offer we just need a warm body with an eye for a bargain. If you're interested get in touch asap, Pete Connor Mohawk Mwnci Magic (01908) 674299 (H) (01908) 654637 (o) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 07:48:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA07141 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA07136 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA20594 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA18225 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199904260647.HAA18225@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 1st May 1999 BDGA Golf: Scottish Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500249 Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Bakewell, Derbyshire [Students' Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Brugge: "7th International Tournament" (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Please reply before February 15th to one of the contacts. Contact Glenn Nolf Address Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email Glenn@km.be Fax + 32 59 552780 Phone + 32 50 311705 URL http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Jan Loontiens Address Zwagershullestraat 7 B9881 Bellem Fax + 32 9 3728614 Phone + 32 9 3750695 Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam Invitational (4 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 09:34:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA19361 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:31:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18971 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:29:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02995 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:29:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.195.0.131] (helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bgl6-0003Ao-0C; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:28:57 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 10bgl0-0007ZG-00; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:28:50 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, EuroDisc@ira.uka.de Cc: "'big_mike@compuserve.com'" Subject: Andy Hughes Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:21:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It is with enormous regret that I have to announce the sad news of the death of Andy Hughes. Andy passed away on Thursday morning after a long battle against renal cancer. He leaves his wife Derry, parents Derek and Betty, his brother, Mike and sister Julie. Andy was the founder and father-figure of Ultimate at Wolverhampton with the Hot Stamp Rejects for many years. He also founded and played with ACSS and the Suntans and played with Stan in their early days. He was a well-known and charismatic figure in UK Ultimate throughout the 80s and 90s. He was known and loved by so many people and will be sadly missed. There will be a ceremony on Friday 30th April at 3:30pm at Gornal Wood Crematorium, near Dudley. This will be followed by a social gathering at the Mount Hotel, Tettenhall. A map will be made available in the next few days. Andy's family would like to extend the invitation to anyone who knew him and would like to come and pay their respects. It is preferred that black is not worn. To give an idea of numbers attending it is requested that you contact Janette Carveth on 01902 420532 or e-mail: big_mike@compuserve.com as soon as possible. Andy's family would prefer that flowers are not send as they would rather collect donations which will go towards a suitable preventative renal cancer cause. Cards and donations can be sent to: Janette Carveth 65 Clark Road Tettenhall Wolverhampton WV3 9PA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Max Keogh Student Reservations Office Tel: +44 1843 227700 Fax: +44 1843 223377 Mobile: 07970 696178 max@student-reservations.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 10:35:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02355 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02333 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:39 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11408 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:31 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:27 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FE01@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Charity Event Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:33:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA02339 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc Just a small note to let you know that the charity event in Ealing happened this weekend. Twelve teams took part in Ultimate, Lacrosse, Kabaddi, Human Table Football and a lot of drinking (although that may just have been us). I want to publicly thank Nick, Lemmy and Chris from Night Fever and Spider from Whiplash for helping out, and for being generally entertaining. Thanks also to everyone who offered their support and had to drop out for whatever reason. Total funds raised for the Parkinson's Disease Society should come close to £2500. Cheers Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 17:52:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA14404 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:51:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14361; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11413; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:51:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10boaE-0000wh-00; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:50:14 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 26 Apr 99 17:50:13 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 26 Apr 99 17:50:11 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:50:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors Latest CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <24237823E1C@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: National Student Outdoor Championships Venue: Lady Manners School, Bakewell Dates: 1st/2nd May 1999 I am still awaiting cheques or definite NO's from the following teams. Can they please let me know asap. Hulltimate - Awaiting decision Toxic - Awaiting decision Under Cover Lovers - Awaiting decision Uriel - Awaiting decision UWE - Cheque in post? Here is a list of the 25 teams paid up for next weekend. If any of these teams have not got a map please let me know. Written directions will go out over email later in the week. Phat 'Eds Mythago Mohawks Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of their Minds Ow! Fish Ro-Sham-Bo Cupid Stunts Skunks Disc Doctors Jesters Northern Lights PDQ Far Flung Mwnci See Jedi Disciples Bears Shooting Stars Phat 'Eds II Mythago II Mohawks II Jedi II Bears II Bears III See you at the weekend, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 17:53:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA14692 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:52:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14673; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:52:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA07943; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:52:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10bobg-0000yI-00; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:51:44 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 26 Apr 99 17:51:43 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 26 Apr 99 17:51:32 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:51:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Entry Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <2423D446513@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: Tour II Venue: Graves Tennis Centre & Meadowhead School, Sheffield Dates: 8th/9th May There are now 29 teams paid up and entered with four possible further entries to come. The tournament has a maximum of 32 teams, so it is first come, first served, so get your cheques in the post. I will need a DEFINITE yes or no from these four teams by this Thursday (29th) at the latest: Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) - Colin please contact me. Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds SMUDGE II Strange Blue II The 29 Entered Teams Albatross Bliss Blue Arse Flies Blue Arse Flies Too Catch 22 Chevron Action Flash Dough Boy First Touch Fluid Druids Gael Force Headrush Jedi Children Mild Mannered Jannitors Mwnci Mohawk Magic Nightfever Pookas Phat 'Eds Red I Red II Sharks Skunks Slipdisc SMUDGE SOUP Strange Blue Twin Peaks Under The Influence Whiplash Wyld Stallions See you in Sheffield, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 18:26:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA20603 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20596 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11563 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.56.63] (helo=lurker.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bp5A-0006w3-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:22:12 +0000 From: Howard@lurker.demon.co.uk (Howee Lurker) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lurkers Outdoor Training Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:20:58 GMT Organization: LFDC Message-ID: <37279f54.8541826@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA20597 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those who are interested... Lurkers training reverts to outdoors this Wednesday 28th April at Wandle Park in Sunny South Croydon. Normal sort of time and stuff. Mail me here for more info or call Ed on his mobile on 0956 294519. L8rs, Howee. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 18:26:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA20625 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20610 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14375 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.56.63] (helo=lurker.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10bp7h-0007CT-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:24:50 +0000 From: Howard@lurker.demon.co.uk (Howee Lurker) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lurkers Outdoor Training Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:23:35 GMT Organization: LFDC Message-ID: <37279f54.8541826@post.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA20612 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those who are interested... Lurkers training reverts to outdoors this Wednesday 28th April at Wandle Park in Sunny South Croydon. Normal sort of time and stuff. Mail me here for more info or call Ed on his mobile on 0956 294519. L8rs, Howee. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 26 18:49:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA24291 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24278 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultra2.aber.ac.uk (ultra2.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA13790 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcslac.dcs.aber.ac.uk ([193.60.15.148] helo=pcslac) by ultra2.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.01 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10bpUh-0001qj-00; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:36 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990426184817.00944100@pophost.aber.ac.uk> X-Sender: tjb7@pophost.aber.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:17 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Captain Flubber Subject: Ultimate in Ascot? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, Just wondering if there's anyone living around the Ascot/Bracknell area for a chuck around over the Summer months and onwards? Tim. -- Tim Blair (a.k.a. Captain Flubber) Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See, Aberystwyth http://www.aber.ac.uk/~club14/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 27 10:50:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12319 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12305 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from alcatel.co.uk (gateway.alcatel.co.uk [194.73.204.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19895 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from gh04.asn.alcatel.co.uk ([193.131.18.117]) by gateway.alcatel.co.uk with ESMTP id <27830>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:49:43 +0000 Received: by GH04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:49:15 +0100 Message-ID: <00836F3A8A79D211A65D00001D315E53CEAAAE@GH04> From: "Wilcock, Duncan" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Picking up at the Bruges Tourney this weekend. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:49:14 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all: I am keen to pickup with a team this weekend at the Bruges Tournament. I have just joined the list so if postings have been issued previously, I have missed them. My resume: Have played a fair bit o' disc, 4-5 years? In Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver (sorry not at worlds) at reasonably competitive levels. Have played handler a fair bit, but would adjust position depending on the level of team played with. (I could use a bit of running to get me in shape) Age, 24. Have sleeping bag, can arrange own travel but could use a lift. I Like beer. Planning to go to Thursday's pickup on Clapham common - (if it's on this week - is it?) Contact: Duncan Wilcock duncan.wilcock@asn.alcatel.co.uk W: 0181 293 2799 H: 0181 858 3480 Thanks, Hopefully I will see one or some of you this weekend. Duncan. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 27 11:51:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA26214 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:50:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26189; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:50:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25339; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:50:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10c5La-0004m9-00; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:44:14 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 27 Apr 99 11:44:14 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 27 Apr 99 11:44:01 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:43:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Tour II Accommodation Latest CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <2541D6C6E42@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA26191 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Earnshaw Hall: Full Ranmoor Hall: Full Sheffield Moat House: Full Tapton Hall: 1 female room (Call Nicky 0114 222 8861) Halifax Hall are now able to offer 6 single rooms and one twin. This Hall is within five minutes of the party. The cost once again will be 10.50 pppn plus one pound if you don't have your own bedding. To book call Maureen on 0114 222 8815. Sorby Hall are also able to offer five (male) single rooms with the same costings. To book call Liz on 0114 222 8841. Once these two halls are full that will be all the Hall of Residences accommodation full. Therefore I have attached the original accomodation list to the bottom of this email. Don't forget if all these are filling up too then additional accomodation is available form your official team contact or you can call Destination Sheffield on (0114) 273 4671 or 273 4673. See you in Sheffield, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- Accommodation Close to the Venue Ashford, 3 rooms, 17pppn, 0114 237 5900 Bishops Place, 1 rooms, 15pppn, 0114 265 1753 Hillside, 2 rooms, 16pppn, 0114 262 0833 Tyndale, 4 rooms, 17pppn, 0114 236 1660 Whirlow Park, 3 rooms, 17.50pppn, 0114 235 0214 Beauchief Hotel, 41 rooms, 85pppn, 0114 262 0500 Accommodation Close to the Party The YMCA offers reasonably priced accommodation at £16 per night including breakfast. There are currently about twenty rooms available. To book call (0114) 268 4807. The following places are within a fifteen-minute walk from the party. They are roughly listed in ascending order of price. Abbey House, 3 rooms, 17ppn, 0114 266 7426 ParklandsGuest House, 4 rooms, 18pppn, 0114 267 0692 Beech House, 9 rooms, 19.50pppn, 0114 266 2537 Martins G.H., 8 rooms, 19.50pppn, 0114 230 8588 Millingtons G.H., 6 rooms, 21.00pppn, 0114 266 9549 Peace G.H., 8 rooms, 17.50pppn, 0114 267 0760 St Peligrino Hotel, 11 rooms, 2.pppn, 0114 268 1953 Etruria House Hotel, 11 rooms, 21pppn, 0114 266 2241 Hunter House Hotel, 24 rooms, 25pppn, 0114 266 2709 Roslyn Court Hotel, 22 rooms, 24.50pppn, 0114 266 6188 Westbourne House Hotel, 14 rooms, 32.50pppn, 0114 266 0109 Forte Posthouse, 127 rooms, 42.50pppn, 0114 267 0067 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 27 12:22:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02669 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:19:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02663 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:19:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27737 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:19:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10c5u3-000FVE-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:19:52 +0000 Subject: Clapham (was: Picking up at the Bruges Tourney) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 99 12:20:34 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Planning to go to Thursday's pickup on Clapham common - (if it's on this >week - is it?) Will hopefully post more info about this later today. But, at the moment, no, it's not on. Stand by your e-mail tho'. Cheers Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 27 12:27:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04344 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:26:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04307; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:26:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28332; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:26:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10c5v3-0006LT-00; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:20:53 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 27 Apr 99 12:20:54 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 27 Apr 99 12:20:46 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:19:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors Directions CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <254BA0E2391@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: National Student Outdoor Championships Venue: Lady Manners School, Bakewell Dates: 1st/2nd May 1999 Start times: Captains meeting 9am, First games 9.05am The tournament is being held at Bakewell, Derbyshire, which is within the Peak District National Park. I will leave it up to individual teams to use road maps and work out their best route to Bakewell. Once in Bakewell, all the roads converge at a mini roundabout right in the centre of town. At this roundabout you need to take the narrowest exit, which is the B5055 signposted to Monyash. Follow this road up to the top of the hill and then when you reach the brow turn left onto Shutts Lane. It is signposted Youlgreave. The venue is just 100 yards down the road on the left. If you have any problems you can call me on my housemate's mobile, which I will have Friday and Saturday ONLY. The no. is 07801 570 423. Be warned first games are at 9.05am, and over half of you will be playing. Don't be late. Normal penalties will apply. See you at the weekend, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 28 00:36:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA27327 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:35:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA27321 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:35:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA04627 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:35:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199904272335.AAA04627@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: (qmail 18014 invoked from network); 27 Apr 1999 20:40:45 -0000 Received: from userl670.uk.uudial.com (HELO ?193.149.75.229?) (193.149.75.229) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 1999 20:40:45 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:37:08 +0100 Subject: britdisc - fao: dave bluck From: "john purdie" To: britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk could Dave Bluck please get in touch with John Purdie asap 0181 440 1255 wk 0181 441 3596 fx 0171 813 9143 hm 0860 425 698 mob johnp@purdie.co.uk purdisc@dial.pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 28 10:29:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA10996 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10991 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.71.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12026 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (stork [152.78.71.1]) by rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24377 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from klf.ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:wp296@klf [152.78.71.184]) by stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA29157 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:00 +0100 (GMT) From: Will Parker Reply-To: Will Parker To: britdisc Subject: History of ultimate? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, A friend of mine is doing his dissertation on ultimate frisbee (whoever said being a student was easy?) and he asked me if anyone out there on Britdisc knew anything about the origins of Ultimate in Britain. He's trying to compare it to how the sport started up in Austria I think. Anyway, does anyone know the answer to any of the following questions, or can they point me in the right direction? When did it start? Who were the first teams? Who brought it from America? Were the first teams student teams? Who organsied the first tournament and who went to it? Who was the first open team? etc... Answers to any of these questions and any other useless trivia would be much appreciated. Thanks very much Will Skunks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 28 11:28:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA25220 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:26:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA25204 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:26:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd129.hotmail.com [207.82.252.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA17541 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:26:41 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 49986 invoked by uid 0); 28 Apr 1999 10:26:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19990428102635.49985.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.156 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:26:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.156] From: "Jester Bit" To: wp296@ecs.soton.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: History of ultimate? Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:26:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Will >Skunks wrote: >A friend of mine is doing his dissertation on ultimate frisbee (whoever >said being a student was easy?) and he asked me if anyone out there on >Britdisc knew anything about the origins of Ultimate in Britain. >When did it start? Who were the first teams? Who brought it from >America? Were the first teams student teams? Who organsied the first >tournament and who went to it? Who was the first open team? etc... > >Answers to any of these questions and any other useless trivia would be >much appreciated. Will, and anyone else interested I researched Ultimate thoroughly for a project at college last year. If you want to read my findings, or if you're interested in a copy of the Interactive CDRom I produced you're more than welcome (Power Mac only, but you can view the Quick time videos if you retitle them so a PC recognises that's what they are). Just let me know. All the bes* Jes* Soup - Catch the Flavour ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 28 14:24:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA06558 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:22:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06544 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:22:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk (kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk [130.209.192.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28648 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:22:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk (mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk [130.209.192.26]) by kestrel.mcg.gla.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08590; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:15:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from MCG1/SpoolDir by mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 28 Apr 99 14:22:37 +1100 Received: from SpoolDir by MCG1 (Mercury 1.40); 28 Apr 99 14:22:36 +1100 From: "David Grayson" Organization: Multimedia Communications Group To: "Si Weeks" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:22:33 gmt+1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tour II Entry Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Message-ID: <1856E2C3C6D@mcg1.mcg.gla.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Si, I've been away but the cheque will be in the post tonight for Smudge 2. Dave. > From: "Si Weeks" > To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:51:28 +0100 > Subject: Tour II Entry Update > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Event: Tour II > Venue: Graves Tennis Centre & Meadowhead School, Sheffield > Dates: 8th/9th May > > There are now 29 teams paid up and entered with four possible > further entries to come. The tournament has a maximum of 32 teams, > so it is first come, first served, so get your cheques in the post. > I will need a DEFINITE yes or no from these four teams by this > Thursday (29th) at the latest: > > Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) - Colin please contact me. > Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds > SMUDGE II > Strange Blue II > > The 29 Entered Teams > > Albatross > Bliss > Blue Arse Flies > Blue Arse Flies Too > Catch 22 > Chevron Action Flash > Dough Boy > First Touch > Fluid Druids > Gael Force > Headrush > Jedi Children > Mild Mannered Jannitors > Mwnci Mohawk Magic > Nightfever > Pookas > Phat 'Eds > Red I > Red II > Sharks > Skunks > Slipdisc > SMUDGE > SOUP > Strange Blue > Twin Peaks > Under The Influence > Whiplash > Wyld Stallions > > See you in Sheffield, > > Si Weeks. > -------------------------- > 74 commonside > sheffield > s10 1gg > tel: 0114 266 2304 > email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 28 16:10:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA29801 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:09:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29789 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:09:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from pa.scotland.net (pa2.scotland.net [194.247.65.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14326 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:08:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from [148.176.239.7] (helo=mcg.gla.ac.uk) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #4) id 10cVxI-0005vD-00; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:08:57 +0100 Message-ID: <37271608.11147F32@mcg.gla.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:07:04 +0100 From: Lucy Smallwood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lewis , Britdisc Subject: Re: Fw: virus warning References: <001c01be90dd$489eee60$280e883e@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This virus warning is a hoax. Please can we not send virus hoaxes to Britdisc. If you're unsure - check the symantec web site where they list all hoaxes: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html Lucy, Mud Culture P.S. Apologies to everyone for more mail on this subject. Lewis wrote: > -----Original Message-----From: Chris & Becs > To: adam puk > Date: 27 April 1999 18:06 > Subject: virus warningWARNING > > If you receive an email titled "It Takes Guts to Say 'Jesus' > DO NOT OPEN IT. It will erase everything on your hard drive. This > information was announced yesterday morning from IBM; AOL > states that this is a very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa", > and > that there is NO remedy for it at this time. > > Some very sick individual has succeeded in using the re-format > function from Norton Utilities causing it to completely erase > all documents on the hard drive. It has been designed to work > with Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. It > destroys MacIntosh and IBM compatible computers. This is a new, very > malicious virus and not many people know about it. > > Pass this warning along to EVERYONE in your address book and > please share it with all your online friends ASAP so that this threat > may be stopped. Please practice cautionary measures and tell anyone > that may have access to your computer. Forward this warning to > everyone > that might access the internet . > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 28 16:45:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA07631 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07612 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16286 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 10cWV4-0000yN-00; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:43:50 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:38:45 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Dublin Lost Property Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:42:59 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be918d$caf431d0$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk (sorry this took so long to post) Everyone seemed to have kept a close eye on his or her stuff, so not much was lost. The following things were found: 1 Nike grey pullover 1 Weight belt, the kind you wear around your waist for support 1 Watch 1 Navy Fleece type thing Let me know if any of it is yours. We'll be heading over to Sheff, so it would be great if you could arrange to pick it up from us then. Peter Bennison +353 1 296 4428 Ext 145 mailto:pbennison@sepro.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 29 10:37:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16682 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16667 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13099 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23960 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA16247 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:08 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:07 +0100 (BST) From: Jonathan Peter Good X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: BritDisc Subject: For Vanessa Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to those of you who this doesn't concern: Venessa, I have asked around for accommadation for your ladies. Shockingly alot of guys suddenly had spaces for young women to stay with them. I have spaces for 6 in one house and 4 in another. Both are with frisbee players from st. Andrews and will cost 50 pounds for the two weeks per person (self catered). If this is really too much I can try and haggle some more but I don't think I can get it any lower. I can send you contact e-mail addresses if you get in touch. I'll keep looking for other spaces - how many more do you want? lots of love Jon Good aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian' and 'More than just a Hint' aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of 'Blue Arse Flies' D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. Vice-Captain S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers J'ai mange de la vache enragee, tout les temps! World of Crack! "I was walking through Milton-Keaynes, when I saw this girl with unfeasably tight jeans." From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 30 12:19:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA19917 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:17:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19897 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:17:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from tantalum (tantalum.btinternet.com [194.73.73.80]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16438 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:17:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.99.43.115] (helo=[195.99.43.115]) by tantalum with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10dBHw-00050C-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:17:01 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:17:25 +0100 Subject: Open play in London? From: "Robin Evans" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi my name is Robin and I live in North London. I've never played Ultimate before but I like chucking the disc around. My skills aren't bad and I was wondering if anyone out there could point me in the right direction for a friendly team that I could just come along and meet? Cheers Robin From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 2 21:28:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA10491 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:26:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA10484 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:26:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA12484 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 21:26:05 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21449 invoked from network); 2 May 1999 20:26:03 -0000 Received: from dyn150-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.150) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 2 May 1999 20:26:03 -0000 Message-ID: <372CB511.D8984D36@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 22:26:57 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" Subject: [Ultilinks] New Cool Content. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Ultimate Community. This short note is to inform you of some new content just added to Ultilinks (http://www.ultilinks.com): -A new Interview by Dan Engstrom to STEVE MOONEY, Death or Glory. http://www.ultilinks.com/interviews/ -May 1999 Picture of The Month, a really cool high catch from Australia. http://www.ultilinks.com/potm/ -Five new Virtual Postcards, most of which by Nat Baddour, Canada. http://www.ultilinks.com/postcards/ I would also like to remind you of the new feature added to Ultilinks, a free redirection service that will let you have an Ultilinks URL for free. http://www.ultilinks.com/goto/ To make this email more useful, here's the list of upcoming tournaments currently listed on Ultilinks: Keep 'em flying, Peldi Upcoming Tournaments: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You'll have to remove the "Ulti*" and "*links" parts from any email address listed below to make it work. This is done for anti-spamming reasons. 99/ 05 / 01 (O) USA, IL, Chicago - May Day Melee (http://members.aol.com/MayDayUlt/) 99/ 05 / 01,02 (O) BE, Brugge - Tom's Tourney 99 (http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz) 99/ 05 / 01-08 (O) MX, Club Med, Sonora Bay - S.L.U.T. (http://www.napanet.net/~jesster/SLUT.html) 99/ 05 / 08,09 (O) AT, Wels - 2nd Kleinfeldturnier (mailto:Ulti*gerald.kalkusch@engel.at*links) 99/ 05 / 08,09 (O) IT, Milano - 11th International Milano Tournament (http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Bleachers/8456/) 99/ 05 / 13-16 (O) NL, Rotterdam - Harbour 1999 (http://home.wxs.nl/~airbreak/) 99/ 05 / 15,16 (O) PL, Poznan - The 1st Annual Poznan Half-Hat (http://amiga.org.pl/~mch/ultim.html) 99/ 05 / 22-24 (O) CH, Geneva - 11th Wiz Open (http://www.wizards.ch) 99/ 05 / 29,30 (O) DE, Halle/S. - 3.HUT (http://www.burg-halle.de/~max/ultimate/hallunken.html) 99/ 05 / 29,30 (O) DE, Sauerlach - 1000-Biers-Boelk-Tournament (http://www.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de/ultimate/) 99/ 06 / 05,06 (O) CH, Basel - 3bordersCup (http://www.datacomm.ch/luszabo/freespeed/3brdcup.html) 99/ 06 / 05,06 (O) CZ, Prague - Prague Spring '99 (http://pd.misto.cz/Pj_99/ENG/pj_99.htm) 99/ 06 / 05,06 (O) DE, Muenster - Fiffen Kanzen Ticken (http://www.rhw.de/~indiscutabel/) 99/ 06 / 12,13 (O) DE, Karlsruhe - Fridericiana Cup (mailto:Ulti*frisbee@sport.uni-karlsruhe.de*links) 99/ 06 / 12,13 (O) UK, Bristol - Fiesta (mailto:Ulti*lafave@cs.bris.ac.uk*links) 99/ 06 / 17-20 (B) PT, Praia do Meco - Bar do Peixe (http://www.betacyte.pt/diz-cu/porult99.html) 99/ 06 / 25,26 (B) LV, Jurmala - Jurmalas Bite 1999 (mailto:Ulti*inese@silava.lv*links) 99/ 07 / 02,03 (O) CA, Canada - The Name Game (http://www.snazzy.com/tidepool/hmni/namegame.html) 99/ 07 / 03,04 (O) DE, Rostock - German Students Championship (http://www.agr.uni-rostock.de/frisbee/DHM99/anfang.html) 99/ 07 / 04-10 (O) NL, Niewegein - 3rd Annual Disctivity (mailto:Ulti*mikeocon@knoware.nl*links) 99/ 07 / 10,11 (O) USA, WA, Seattle - Potlatch (mailto:Ulti*discnw@speakeasy.org*links) 99/ 08 / 07-15 (O) UK, St.Andrews, Scotland - WUCC 1999 (http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/) 99/ 09 / 09-12 (O) UK, Eastbourne - British Open 99 (http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/) 99/ 09 / 11,12 (O) NL, Nijmegen - Dutch Open 99 (http://members.xoom.com/bfrisbee2s/nbkhome.htm) 99/ 09 / 25,26 (O) AT, Bludenz - Ill-Zone (http://www.fly.to/upsadaisy) 99/ 09 / 25,26 (O) DE, Munich - Oktoberfest-tournament (http://www.lbm.mw.tu-muenchen.de/ultimate/) 99/ 10 / 22,24 (B) E, Barcelona - Porron Open 99 (HAT) (http://members.tripod.com/BarnaDisc/) Some other lists: - Upcoming Tournaments (Thomas Griesbaum) (http://www.ira.uka.de/~thgries/disc/termine.html) - BFDF events Diary (Mostly GB) (http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/) - Upcoming Tournaments (UPA) (http://www.wafc.org/upa/tourneys.html) - WFDF Schedule Search (http://www.wfdf.org/cgi/search.cgi) - Coed Tournaments of N.America (http://www.upa.org/coed/Tournaments/) - Tournaments in Australia (http://www.netbb.com/cgi-bin/frisbee/tourney.cgi) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 3 07:50:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA12077 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12072 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA29413 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA13428 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199905030647.HAA13428@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 8th May 1999 Tour II (2 days) @ Sheffield [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 74 Commonside Sheffeild S10 1GG Email gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk Phone 0114 266 2304 Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam Invitational (4 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 13:00:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA04151 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:58:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04111 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:58:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09673 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:58:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01440; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:58:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from lr17.pub.brad.ac.uk (rslack@richc8lr17.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.166]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA13420; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:58:33 +0100 (BST) From: richard slack Reply-To: R.Slack@Bradford.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: chw101@york.ac.uk, EGA97KAG@sheffield.ac.uk, fran@sunshine88.freeserve.co.uk, lec6rej@WEST-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK, Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com, mta99@usa.net, phs6amp@SOUTH-02.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK, Rawiz@BP.com, ultimate@lancaster.ac.uk Subject: 19th June: The Ultimate Day Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:58:16 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA04120 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk LEEDS city council have (finally) given the green light for the Hyde Park outdoor tournament, so we're off. Quick recap - sponsored dawn till dusk ultimate in Leeds for the Marie Curie Cancer Care fund on 19th June (see BUF diary). There will be a team and a hat tournament during the day and any pickups are welcome. £20 per team/ £3 per pick-up. Please can anyone interested, including most of the above that have already e-mailed me, drop me their address so I can send more information out. Cheers, Rich.S p.s. Nice one Jedi - YORKSHIRE! YORKSHIRE! etc... ---------------------- Richard Slack Disciples Ultimate rslack@bradford.ac.uk (01274) 732078. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 13:09:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA07031 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:08:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06970 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:08:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10477 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:08:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from valehouse.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.250]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10ee05-00038g-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:08:37 +0100 Received: from VALEHOUSE/SpoolDir by valehouse.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 13:08:38 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by VALEHOUSE (Mercury 1.43); 4 May 99 13:08:32 +0100 From: "Amy Messham" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:08:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Ultimate in Lyon? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <13890BE4D21@valehouse.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, Next year my studies take me to Lyon in France. Does anyone know of an Ultimate team in the near vicinity? Amy Messham From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 13:45:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA16247 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:44:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16237 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:44:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk [146.176.161.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02167 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:44:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from dcs.napier.ac.uk (pcg74f [146.176.161.232]) by poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11641 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:40:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <372EEB8E.74C618AC@dcs.napier.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:43:58 +0100 From: is8099 Organization: Department of Computing, Napier University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-NECCK (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: ankles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello, i was wondering if anyone out there knows the best place to get an ankle support - need something better than neoprene - preferably with lace up or very strong binding but not too bulky so as can be worn with normal cleets. i seem to remember Raffi, you had something similiar - can anyone help? thanks nessie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 14:02:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA21062 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:01:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21006 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:01:07 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart_Mullinger@stratus.com Received: from mailhub.stratus.com (mailhub.stratus.com [134.111.1.14]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA15262 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:01:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from ec.stratus.com (ec.stratus.com [164.152.11.200]) by mailhub.stratus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05881 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by ec.stratus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA10969 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:56:35 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:56:15 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Tour III MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Tour" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tour" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tour III, Edinburgh 5/6th June 1999 Jack Kane Centre Invites for Tour III were sent out last week and should now be with team contacts. They contain details about the tournament, an accommodation list and some maps. If any team is without then please reply and I'll get one sent to you. I'll also bring along some spare ones to Sheffield this weekend. The tournament is being held at The Jack Kane Sports Centre, Edinburgh. There will be 10 regulation size pitches, marked and coned. A game disc will be provided for each team for the weekend. The sports centre has plenty of changing and shower facilities. We have arranged the use of a large room in case of poor weather and for the provision of refreshments and snacks on both days. Unfortunately there is no camping available on-site. The invites contain a list of campsites, hostels, guest houses and hotels in and around Edinburgh. For more information check www.edinburgh.org Please note that Edinburgh is a popular tourist destination, so booking early is advisable. We will attempt to accommodate as many players as possible on floors. Obviously space will be limited and priority will be given to the more deserving teams. A web site for the tournament is on its way (promise!). It'll be at www.fishbowl.co.uk/tour3/ Please note that the closing date for payment of both the BUF tax and entry fee is 15th May 1999, which is all of a sudden rather close. If you have any questions then please mail sneeekys@bigfoot.com, or come and find me at Sheffield, I'll be playing with Gael Force. Stuart. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 15:41:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA19699 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:40:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19667 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:39:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from dirc.bris.ac.uk (dirc.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.51]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA20690 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:39:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dirc.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV (PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:39:44 +0100 Received: from langah26.lang.bris.ac.uk (langah26.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.130]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12818; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:38:43 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: is8099 Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: ankles In-Reply-To: <372EEB8E.74C618AC@dcs.napier.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:36:42 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oh no, not another turned ankle. Sportset (01202 548648) will mail you an ankle brace for about 30GBP. It's hinged with velcro straps and completely prevents turning your ankle. Sounds bulky but it's actually less inhibiting than lace up braces. Rafi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 16:00:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA24436 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:59:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA24416; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:59:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26818; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:59:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10egeE-000207-00; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:58:14 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 15:58:13 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 15:58:07 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:58:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors Results CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3005DFB6692@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: National Student Outdoor Championships Venue: Lady Manners School, Bakewell Dates: 1st/2nd May 1999 Here are the results of the Student Outdooors 1999. A report will hopefully be posted by the end of the week. Congratulations to Leeds and Shooting Stars and thanks to the weather for making it a lovely tournament. 22. Mohawks II (Sussex) 21. Bears II (Warwick) 20. Phat 'Eds II (Sheffield) 19. Shooting Stars (Dundee) 18. Jedi II (Leeds) 17. Reservoir Fish (Lancaster) (Spoon Winners) 15. Disc Doctors (Imperial) 15. Disciples (Bradford) 14. PDQ (Portsmouth) 13. Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds (Manchester Met.) 12. Mwnci See (Wales @ Aberystwyth) 11. Northern Lights (Durham) 10. Jesters (Leicester) 9. Skunks (Southampton) (Plate Winners) 8. Ow! (Oxford) 7. Far Flung (Glasgow) 6. Bears (Warwick) 5. Phat 'Eds (Sheffield) 4. Ro-Sham-Bo (Edinburgh) 3. Mythago (Bristol) 2. Mohawks (Sussex) 1. Jedi Children (Leeds) (Cup and Shield Winners) Spirit of the Game: Shooting Stars Hope everyone had a weekend, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 16:01:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA24961 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:01:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24928; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:00:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA26986; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:00:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10egg0-00026A-00; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:00:04 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 16:00:03 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 15:59:54 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:59:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Tour II Final Accommodation Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <300659C6BFE@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA24933 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All the Halls and the Sheffield Moathouse are FULL as far as I know. The original accomodation email is attached below. I do not know how full these options are. If they are all full then phone Destination Sheffield on (0114) 273 4671 or 273 4673 who have more options. See you in Sheffield, Si Weeks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Accommodation Close to the Venue Ashford, 3 rooms, 17pppn, 0114 237 5900 Bishops Place, 1 rooms, 15pppn, 0114 265 1753 Hillside, 2 rooms, 16pppn, 0114 262 0833 Tyndale, 4 rooms, 17pppn, 0114 236 1660 Whirlow Park, 3 rooms, 17.50pppn, 0114 235 0214 Beauchief Hotel, 41 rooms, 85pppn, 0114 262 0500 Accommodation Close to the Party The YMCA offers reasonably priced accommodation at £16 per night including breakfast. There are currently about twenty rooms available. To book call (0114) 268 4807. The following places are within a fifteen-minute walk from the party. They are roughly listed in ascending order of price. Abbey House, 3 rooms, 17ppn, 0114 266 7426 ParklandsGuest House, 4 rooms, 18pppn, 0114 267 0692 Beech House, 9 rooms, 19.50pppn, 0114 266 2537 Martins G.H., 8 rooms, 19.50pppn, 0114 230 8588 Millingtons G.H., 6 rooms, 21.00pppn, 0114 266 9549 Peace G.H., 8 rooms, 17.50pppn, 0114 267 0760 St Peligrino Hotel, 11 rooms, 2.pppn, 0114 268 1953 Etruria House Hotel, 11 rooms, 21pppn, 0114 266 2241 Hunter House Hotel, 24 rooms, 25pppn, 0114 266 2709 Roslyn Court Hotel, 22 rooms, 24.50pppn, 0114 266 6188 Westbourne House Hotel, 14 rooms, 32.50pppn, 0114 266 0109 Forte Posthouse, 127 rooms, 42.50pppn, 0114 267 0067 -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 16:04:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA26023 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:04:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25897; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:03:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25076; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:03:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10egfT-00023d-01; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:59:32 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 15:59:30 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 4 May 99 15:59:23 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:59:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Final Update CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <300635F5877@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: Tour II Venue: Graves Tennis Centre & Meadowhead School, Sheffield Dates: 8th/9th May Tour II is now FULL. If there is any other team that would like to enter, please contact me and I will put you on a reserve list. The 32 entered teams are: Albatross Bliss Blue Arse Flies Blue Arse Flies Too Bruce Lee Dragons Catch 22 Chevron Action Flash Dough Boy First Touch Fluid Druids Gael Force Headrush Jedi Children Mild Mannered Jannitors Mwnci Mohawk Magic Nightfever Pookas Phat 'Eds Phat Fingered Disciples (Student Pick Up) Red I Red II Sharks Skunks Slipdisc SMUDGE SOUP Strange Blue Superfly/Smudge II Twin Peaks Under The Influence Whiplash Wyld Stallions See you all in Sheffield, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 16:26:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA01998 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:25:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01941 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:25:30 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:26:54 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Dora Kemp" Subject: Tour 2 accommodation Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:17:23 +0100 Subject: Tour 2 accommodation From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Hi all going to Tour 2. Due to an unforseen injury, Strange Blue has one extra room in Ranmore Hall for a guy at a cost of 10.50 without linen, 11.50 with linen. Does anyone out there want it? I will take first come, first served. If I hear nothing by Thursday morning I shall c*ancel it. Please email me direct. NOTE: You won't be able to get it if you call the hall because it is in our name. Cheers Dora Kemp Strange Blue From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 18:08:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA24709 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:07:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24686 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:07:05 +0100 (BST) From: sally.riggs@ac.com Received: from mpcmr1001.ac.com (MPCMR1001.ac.com [170.252.160.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA07445 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:27:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from emehm1101.ac.com (EMEHM1101.ac.com [10.2.102.45]) by mpcmr1001.ac.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00786 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: by emehm1101.ac.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 86256767.005A7591 ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:28:03 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ANDERSEN CONSULTING To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <86256767.005A49F5.00@emehm1101.ac.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:21:57 +0000 Subject: Women's Tournament Results? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have the results of the women's outdoor tournament at Warwick University on 24 /25 April? It was a great turnout and thanks to the organisers. Cheers Sally Organics From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 20:07:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA13464 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:06:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13459 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:06:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA13723 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:06:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10ekWG-0006LR-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:06:17 +0000 Message-ID: <1mhfBLAWJzL3Ewpo@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:45:58 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Vanessa White Reply-To: Vanessa White Subject: Women's Practices in London MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Every other Monday (let's see how keen people are first!) Womens training practices. On: Monday 10th May At: Regents Park (south east part of the Zoo). Where First Touch usually practice. Time: 18.30 ish Action plan to do drills, throwing, sprints etc. Should you have any further question please get in touch. 0171 616 4819 (wk) 0181 663 4856 (hm) -- Vanessa White Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903422 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 20:57:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20473 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:56:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA20468 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:56:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24520 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:56:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10elIZ-0004sx-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:56:12 +0000 Message-ID: <9nRSXGAxz0L3EwZH@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:39:29 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: ELISA CARBONI Subject: Re: lift to England In-Reply-To: <"irafs1.ira.623:03.05.99.09.28.52"@ira.uka.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk from EuroDisc: ELISA CARBONI writes >Hi everybody... >I'd like to have sone information... >I'd like to go to England after Ginevra Tournament, are there any people or >team from England or on the way to England that are going to play in >Ginevra and can give me a lift back home? >Thanks a lot! >Elisa replies set to Elisa. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 4 23:54:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA10372 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:52:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10357 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:52:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03802 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:52:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-044.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.44]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA22347 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:45:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <010e01be9680$ed1af620$1fa492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Anyone want a Canadian? Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:42:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Doug Merry To: BUF Date: 30 April 1999 20:00 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Doug Merry >Address1: >Address2: >Post Code: >Telephone: >Fax: >Message: hi, > >I'm over here in Canada and I'll probably be visiting London in the next few weeks, sometime in May. Can you give me any info on where I can play? Just to pick up with a team for a night or two would be great. Thanx a lot! Dougie > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 5 11:30:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA04759 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:29:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04743 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:29:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12436 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:29:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.951 #1) id 10eyvX-0007bo-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:29:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:31:54 +0100 Subject: Tour 2 accommodation From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all attending Tour 2 Strange Blue's extra room in Ranmore Hall has now been taken but I found out last night that we have another free in Tapton Hall for a guy. Please email me by tomorrow morning if you want this room. B&B 10.50 without linen, 11.50 with. Cheers Dora Kemp Strange Blue Whatever does good should be held in honour, and the only shame is in doing harm - Plato McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 5 12:37:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA22077 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:36:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22055; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:36:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23273; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:36:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10ezxZ-0003HE-00; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:35:29 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 5 May 99 12:35:29 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 5 May 99 12:35:17 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:35:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Directions to Halls CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, rcole@uk.oracle.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <314FCBF5BD6@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Initial Directions: Follow signs for the University on arrival in Sheffield. Once you pass the University continue up Western Bank passing the Childrens Hospital on your left and then the Fitzooth and Firkin on your right. You will pass through a set of pedestrian crossing traffic lights before reachin a cross roads with more traffic lights. Individual routes to Halls are given from here. Tapton Hall: When you reach the set of traffic lights you need to turn right. Follow the road up the hill. Tapton Hall is on the right. Earnshaw Hall: Go straight on at the traffic lights, through Broomhill and then straight on at the next set. You then need to take the first (or second) road on the left, Endcliffe Vale Crescent. Sorby and Halifax Halls: Go straight on at the traffic lights, through Broomhill and then straight on at the next set. You then need to turn left down Endcliffe Vale Road after about half a mile. You first pass Sorby Hall on your left and then shortly afterwards Halifax Hall. Ranmoor Hall: Go straight on at the traffic lights, through Broomhill and then straight on at the next set. You then nedd to take a right turn, Shore Lane after about half a mile. Ranmoor Hall is on the left. See you Saturday, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 5 12:37:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21861 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:36:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21823; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:35:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23189; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:35:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10ezuu-0003Bj-00; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:32:44 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 5 May 99 12:32:44 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 5 May 99 12:32:40 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:32:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Directions to Tour II CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, 5883334x@mmu.ac.uk, "Hannah Easter" , rcole@uk.oracle.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <314F19D2B46@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Event: Tour II Venue: Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre and Meadowhead School Date: May 8th/9th I am afraid I will not be able to send out any further maps or directions by post. Team contacts do have them if you are desperate. However the directions below are pretty comprehensive and along with a map are also available on the Phat 'Eds Website (still under construction): http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/union/susoc/ultimate/Maps.html On arrival please DO NOT park at Graves Tennis Centre, as all parking is being provided by the Meadowhead School site. ARRIVAL BY CAR >From the North M1 Junction 33 to A630 Sheffield. Continue along the dual carriageway and follow signs for ring road Chesterfield (A61). Once you pass Mosbrook Junior and Infant School you will soon pass Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre on your left. Take the next road after this on the left, Dyche Lane, and then parking will be signposted from here. >From the South M1 Junction 29 to A617 Chesterfield. Follow signs for Sheffield A61. After the City of Sheffield boundary you will see the Sheffield Moathouse on your right hand side. Continue to the roundabout and turn right. You must follow this road until the next roundabout and double back. Continue back until you pass Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre on your left. Take the next road on the left, Dyche Lane, and then parking will be signposted from here. >From Sheffield City Centre Follow signs for A61(S) Sheffield. Approximately five miles from the City Centre you will pass through shops on both sides of the road. On the left there is a large Beefeater Pub called the Norton. After passing this you need to turn left at the roundabout and follow this road to the next roundabout and double back. Continue back until you pass Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre on your left. Take the next road on the left, Dyche Lane, and then parking will be signposted from here. ARRIVAL BY TRAIN Sheffield Station is five miles from the tounament venue. There is a taxi rank outside. A Hackney Carriage will set you back around 6.50. and takes about ten minutes. Alternatively you can catch the number 53 bus from stand A4 at the Sheffield Interchange just over the road. The cost of a single fare is 75p. These buses go every ten minutes and take about twenty minutes. See you Saturday morning, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 5 12:41:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23258 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:41:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23243; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:41:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24097; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:41:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10f01Q-0003PN-00; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:39:28 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 5 May 99 12:39:28 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 5 May 99 12:39:21 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:39:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Floorspace CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, gga96rdo@sheffield.ac.uk, zza98cw@sheffield.ac.uk, mba96djm@sheffield.ac.uk, poa96pjc@sheffield.ac.uk, ega97kag@sheffield.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3150E211541@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The floorspace for Tour II has now all been taken. Those arriving Friday night need to meet in the Grindstone Pub from 8pm onwards. Teams arriving Friday: Pookas Mohawk Mwnci Magic Skunks Accomodation for Saturday night: Jedi Children Phat Fingered Disciples To get to the Grindstone teams need to follow signs for the University on arrival in Sheffield. Once you pass the University continue up Western Bank passing the Childrens Hospital on your left and then the Fitzpooth and Firkin on your right. You'll pass through a set of pedestrian lights and the come to another set at a crossroads. Turn right and follow the road up the hill. As the road takes a hard turn to the right, you will see the Grindstone pub in front of you. Your hosts will meet you in there. Those teams just having accomodation on Saturday night can make arrangements with their hosts during play on the Saturday. See you Friday night, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 5 18:08:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA04317 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:07:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04304 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:07:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18212 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:07:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-017.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.17]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA16877 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:00:22 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001701be9719$d3f24880$11a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Canadian in Reigate area seeks 'recreational' team Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:06:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Christian To: BUF Date: 04 May 1999 16:22 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Stephen Christian >Address2: Reigate Surrey >Message: I have just moved to London from Vancouver (Canada). >I have been playiny ultimate since 1992. >I am interested in the best way to get some play in the UK. >Nothing too serious, recreational league and maybe >some touring masters (close to London). Please respond to my email address. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 6 08:53:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA09145 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:51:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09133 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:51:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com (mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com [193.130.129.196]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15389 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:51:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw3.uk.oracle.com (gatekeeper.oracle.co.uk [193.130.129.195]) by mail-gw2.uk.oracle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12196 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:51:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from uksn82.uk.oracle.com (uksn82.uk.oracle.com [138.3.208.44]) by mail-gw3.uk.oracle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22607 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:51:50 +0100 (BST) Received: by uksn82.uk.oracle.com (8.8.8+Sun/) id IAA29575; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:51:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199905060751.IAA29575@uksn82.uk.oracle.com> Date: 06 May 99 08:50:06 +0100 From: "Rob Cole" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Sheffield Accommodation: 2 Womens rooms going MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Oracle InterOffice (version 4.1.2.12.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id IAA09134 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to a late cancellation, the Wyld Stallyns have 2 rooms for Friday and Saturday night in Earnshaw hall (the one nearest the party) going spare. If you know of anyone who wants bed-and-breakfast, and probably a lift to the pitches, all for 10.50 a night (bring your own bedding, or it's and extra quid), drop me a line either at the numbers below, or reply to this email. See you there, Rob Cole ***************************************************************************** Robert Cole Tel: 0118 924 4873 Associate Consultant Mobile: 0961 170 759 Enterprise Methods and Tools Internal Extn: 44873 Oracle UK Fax: 0118 924 5605 Building 530 Email: rcole@uk.oracle.com Thames Valley Park Reading, RG6 1RA ***************************************************************************** The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 6 12:09:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25611 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:06:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25598 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:06:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from orange.easynet.co.uk (orange.easynet.co.uk [193.131.248.24]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14723 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:06:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from fig.mail.easynet.net ([195.40.1.46]) by orange.mail.easynet.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10fLzM-000666-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:06:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 3379 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 11:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO SLWKS024) (212.212.161.11) by fig.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 6 May 1999 11:06:46 -0000 X-Sender: simon.norris@mail.virgin.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Simon Norris Subject: Ride from London to Sheffield on Saturday Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:06:48 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One First Touch player needs a ride from London to Sheffield on Saturday. If anyone has room for him and is willing to give him a lift, please contact David Whitehead at David.Whitehead@gs.com. Thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 6 13:19:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA14777 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:18:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14771 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:18:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25510 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:18:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-119.strontium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.18.247] helo=default) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10fN6H-0002IH-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:18:01 +0100 Message-ID: <001301be97ba$06db5020$f712883e@default> From: "Lewis" To: Subject: Phat fingered disciples Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:13:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE97C2.32C56740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE97C2.32C56740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First of all thanks to everyone for a great student nationals and = congratulations to Jedi for coming away deserved winners. Second...During the student nationals somebody was going around asking = people playing for a pick up team at Tour II,=20 I put my name down but what is happening about this?? I'm willing and = able to play but my team PDQ are unable to field teams at the tour = events. Can anybody help!!! Loopy=20 (Lewis PDQ) ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE97C2.32C56740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First of all thanks to everyone for a great student = nationals=20 and congratulations to Jedi for coming away deserved = winners.
 
Second...During the student nationals somebody was = going=20 around asking people playing for a pick up team at Tour II, =
I put my name down but what is happening about = this?? I'm=20 willing and able to play but my team PDQ are unable to field teams at = the tour=20 events. Can anybody help!!!
 
Loopy
(Lewis PDQ)
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE97C2.32C56740-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 6 17:00:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA12382 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:59:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12374; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:59:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA28314; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:59:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from whallida.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA12331; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:59:01 +0100 (BST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:58:54 +0100 Message-ID: <9E34DDD518F1D211B1D50008C75D4D7B1DC2C9@RMEXCHANGE2.internal.rmplc.net> From: Will Halliday Reply-To: "whalliday@rmplc.net" To: "'Si Weeks'" , "All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Cc: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" , "gga96rdo@sheffield.ac.uk" , "zza98cw@sheffield.ac.uk" , "mba96djm@sheffield.ac.uk" , "poa96pjc@sheffield.ac.uk" , "ega97kag@sheffield.ac.uk" Subject: single room in hotel available Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:58:57 +0100 Organization: rmplc X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One lovely single room in the hotel by the pitches (jacuzzi, short walk to the fields bla bla????.)for sale for two nights (fri and sat) at 35 pounds per night due to last moment injury related withdrawal Will H Catch 22 -----Original Message----- From: Si Weeks [SMTP:GGA95SEW@sheffield.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 12:39 PM To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; gga96rdo@sheffield.ac.uk; zza98cw@sheffield.ac.uk; mba96djm@sheffield.ac.uk; poa96pjc@sheffield.ac.uk; ega97kag@sheffield.ac.uk Subject: Tour II Floorspace The floorspace for Tour II has now all been taken. Those arriving Friday night need to meet in the Grindstone Pub from 8pm onwards. Teams arriving Friday: Pookas Mohawk Mwnci Magic Skunks Accomodation for Saturday night: Jedi Children Phat Fingered Disciples To get to the Grindstone teams need to follow signs for the University on arrival in Sheffield. Once you pass the University continue up Western Bank passing the Childrens Hospital on your left and then the Fitzpooth and Firkin on your right. You'll pass through a set of pedestrian lights and the come to another set at a crossroads. Turn right and follow the road up the hill. As the road takes a hard turn to the right, you will see the Grindstone pub in front of you. Your hosts will meet you in there. Those teams just having accomodation on Saturday night can make arrangements with their hosts during play on the Saturday. See you Friday night, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 6 17:29:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA19091 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:27:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA19069 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:27:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from aligrafix.co.uk (merry.aligrafix.co.uk [193.123.31.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00534 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:27:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc8 (193.123.31.38) by aligrafix.co.uk with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Thu, 6 May 1999 17:27:41 +0100 Message-ID: <001001be97dd$71357d10$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> From: "Michael Beaton" To: Subject: A couple more rooms in Sheffield Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:28:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to last minute withdrawals, Sharks have overbooked by two male rooms in the SU accomodation (£10.50 per night B&B). We have got rooms in Tapton and Ranmoor halls, so the two free rooms can be in either (whichever is more convenient for the team that wants them). If you're interested, please email me at mike_beaton@hotmail.com or telephone on 01865-514744, or come and find me at the tournament. (The rooms are booked for Friday and Saturday, but I don't think it would be a problem letting them go for just Saturday.) Mike (Sharks). From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 6 17:44:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA22721 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:43:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22702 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:43:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate.ocean.co.uk (mailgate.infogrames.co.uk [195.44.46.84]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA01641 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:43:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7763 invoked from network); 6 May 1999 16:43:48 -0000 Received: from exchange-server.infogrames.local (10.10.10.214) by mailgate.infogrames.local with SMTP; 6 May 1999 16:43:48 -0000 Received: by exchange-server.infogrames.local with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:43:48 +0100 Message-ID: <7095C730A1D4D21181A400805F6F48CA1902DB@exchange-server.infogrames.local> From: Kevin Lowe To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: paulruff@hotmail.com Subject: Junior tournament Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:43:47 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Just to announce that there will be a junior (under 15) tournament on Sunday the 23rd of May at Millfield Prep school in Glastonbury. If there are any new 'youth' teams (under 19) or predominantly girl teams that would be interested in attending this tournament, then please also get in touch. For more details, please contact Vaughan Williams on 01458-832245 or email chestnut@millfieldprep.somerset.sch.uk While I'm here, if any junior team would be interested in hosting the junior outdoors in late June / early July, please get in touch. Kevin. |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Kevin.Lowe@infogrames.co.uk Tel: +44(0)161-827-8150 | | I hope I die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather | Not screaming and shouting like his passengers. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 7 09:36:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA07696 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:35:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07684 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:35:20 +0100 (BST) From: helen.myers@deloitte.co.uk Received: from smartmail1.business.net.uk (smartmail1.business.net.uk [194.88.64.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21742 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:35:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.deloitte.co.uk ([194.88.95.3]) by smartmail1.business.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10fg0P-0007KS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:29:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 8:54:25 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Spring into Action Results MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Secure Messaging /310000000/310102502/310102532/300490599/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA07685 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quickie to let everyone know the results of the women's tournament that took place a couple of weeks ago ... 1= Bliss 2= Twin Peaks 3= Fierce 4= Organic / Blondes (?) 5= Sheffield / Mohawks - Most improved performance 6= Bears Thanks to all those who took part and, of course, to Sue who put the time in to make it happen ... Love 'n' layouts Helen --------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTICE. This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to IT.SECURITY.UK@deloitte.co.uk then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 7 12:56:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA23410 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:54:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23394; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:54:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26618; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:54:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10fjCS-0002Jc-00; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:53:52 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 May 99 12:53:52 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 7 May 99 12:53:50 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Student.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:53:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors 1999 CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <3454DDC4987@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last weekend saw the picturesque setting of Bakewell, Derbyshire, play host to the National Student Outdoors and we were were also blessed with fine sunshine and very little wind (sorry Mohawks - dreams of their four man cup shettered!) The four groups went very much to seed although Jedi, the eventual winners, were fielding a weaker team on the Saturday resulting in them finishing second behind Ro-Sham-Bo in their pool. This lined Jedi up for the nail-biting 13-12 quater final against Sheffield's Phat 'Eds who would finish fifth after the determined Leeds side stopped them from advancing any further. The sudden death last point seemed to go on forever and somehow the final pass of the game squirmed over a huge layout-D to end Phat 'Ed's title aspirations. Jedi's semi-final also proved to be a well-spirited and close game although their defence managed to shut down Mythago's well-rehearsed offense early-on and they did enough to maintain a two-point cushion through to the end of the game. Thankfully the few niggly dissagreements between individuals which did occur didn't marr what turned out to be a great semi. Elsewhere Bears gave Mohawks as close a quarter-final as Phat 'Eds had given Jedi. Sussex took an early lead to go 5-2 up before Warwick really turned on the D to haul themselves back to 5-all. Mohawks took the half 9-8 and managed to maintain this advantage to win 12-10. Perhaps the support from the Sussex sideline was too much for Bears who stared on bemused as thirty Mohawks with silly haircuts stormed the pitch to celebrate victory over the Indoor Champions. Mohawks' semi against Ro-Sham-Bo perhaps lacked some of the drama of their quarter final as the Scots let the Southerners go 11-5 up before mounting the comeback which sadly fell just short. Mohawks' offence suffered a lull to allow Ro-Sham-Bo back in the game but the title-holders were always destined for the final and won-out 12-9. Spirit of the Game was awarded unanimously to Dundee's Shooting stars who were given five out of a possible five from each of the seven teams they played over the course of the weekend. I'm still not sure what all that dancing on the sidelines was about though. In the finals, Fish beat Jedi II to the spoon and Skunks overcame Jesters to claim the 1999 Outdoor plate to match the Indoor plate which they collected earlier in the season. The top eight took shape with Far Flung (7) proving much too strong for a tired Ow! (8); Phat 'Eds (5) settling the score with Bears (6) and Mythago (3) showing great character to come through against Ro Sham Bo(4). In the Cup final one could never see Mohawks finding a way past the now unstoppable Jedi whose two late-comers, Bob and Tom, showed more flair than the Mohawks defence could handle and soon Jedi were three points up. Despite the magnitude of the event however, spirit never failed including Locks picking on some poor spectator to resolve a potentially crucial stall-out call. Leeds' player Bruce probably also deserves a mention for the most spectacular layout catch (and subsequent drop) of the entire weekend, despite this however, Leeds won 16-12 and a gracious Chewy accepted the trophy with the honest words: "I've wanted this for fucking ages." Report: Karl Guard --------------------------------------------- The full results were: 22. Mohawks II (Sussex) 21. Bears II (Warwick) 20. Phat 'Eds II (Sheffield) 19. Shooting Stars (Dundee) 18. Jedi II (Leeds) 17. Reservoir Fish (Lancaster) (Spoon Winners) 15. Disc Doctors (Imperial) 15. Disciples (Bradford) 14. PDQ (Portsmouth) 13. Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds (Manchester Met.) 12. Mwnci See (Wales @ Aberystwyth) 11. Northern Lights (Durham) 10. Jesters (Leicester) 9. Skunks (Southampton) (Plate Winners) 8. Ow! (Oxford) 7. Far Flung (Glasgow) 6. Bears (Warwick) 5. Phat 'Eds (Sheffield) 4. Ro-Sham-Bo (Edinburgh) 3. Mythago (Bristol) 2. Mohawks (Sussex) 1. Jedi Children (Leeds) (Cup and Shield Winners) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 7 13:32:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA01032 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:31:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01022; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:31:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA25405; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:31:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10fjku-0003OH-00; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:29:28 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 May 99 13:29:27 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 7 May 99 13:29:16 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:29:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II CC: s.t.lord@dundee.ac.uk, WZiants@spencerstuart.com, dak12@cam.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <345E50C4820@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Captains Meeting is at 9am in the morning with first games starting promptly at 9.30am. Usual penalties apply for late arrivals. Last games on Saturday will finish at 6.15pm. The directions are pasted below again for any one who missed them last time. --------------------------------- Directions are also available on the web: http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/union/susoc/ultimate/Maps.html On arrival please DO NOT park at Graves Tennis Centre, as all parking is being provided by the Meadowhead School site. ARRIVAL BY CAR >From the North M1 Junction 33 to A630 Sheffield. Continue along the dual carriageway and follow signs for ring road Chesterfield (A61). Once you pass Mosbrook Junior and Infant School you will soon pass Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre on your left. Take the next road after this on the left, Dyche Lane, and then parking will be signposted from here. >From the South M1 Junction 29 to A617 Chesterfield. Follow signs for Sheffield A61. After the City of Sheffield boundary you will see the Sheffield Moathouse on your right hand side. Continue to the roundabout and turn right. You must follow this road until the next roundabout and double back. Continue back until you pass Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre on your left. Take the next road on the left, Dyche Lane, and then parking will be signposted from here. >From Sheffield City Centre Follow signs for A61(S) Sheffield. Approximately five miles from the City Centre you will pass through shops on both sides of the road. On the left there is a large Beefeater Pub called the Norton. After passing this you need to turn left at the roundabout and follow this road to the next roundabout and double back. Continue back until you pass Graves Tennis and Leisure Centre on your left. Take the next road on the left, Dyche Lane, and then parking will be signposted from here. ARRIVAL BY TRAIN Sheffield Station is five miles from the tounament venue. There is a taxi rank outside. A Hackney Carriage will set you back around 6.50. and takes about ten minutes. Alternatively you can catch the number 53 bus from stand A4 at the Sheffield Interchange just over the road. The cost of a single fare is 75p. These buses go every ten minutes and take about twenty minutes. See you Saturday morning, Si Weeks. -------------------------- 74 commonside sheffield s10 1gg tel: 0114 266 2304 email: gga95sew@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 7 19:05:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA11164 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:03:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA11151 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:03:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA05123; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:03:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 7 May 99 19:01:44 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 7 May 99 19:01:37 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: bdga@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 19:01:36 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 8th Scottish Open Disc Golf Championships. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <128EF7AB58C2@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Golfers, There was a mass turnout for the Scottish Open on 1/2 May on the island of Mull. Many players were new to tournament golf and we were very pleased to see new faces. We had a record turnout of 55 which is about a 25% increase on last year. Simon Luard got off to a flying start with a first round of 47. He held on to his lead going into the 4th round but slipped back and after 4 rounds I led by 4 from Oz Freire, Sam Neilson, Liam Young and Simon. There was then a 9 hole final for the top 5 and the pack closed in as all except me birdied the first hole. Sammy then deuced the following 3 holes to draw level with me in the lead. On hole 5 it looked like Sam might take the lead outright as his drive was the closest, but I holed out from 15 metres to stop the rot and Sam took a 3. I got another birdie on the 6th to regain a two shot lead and this time was able to hold on to it and take my 6th title. Daniel Luton won the junior event and Oliver Luton took the junior juniors title. At the awards ceremony plans were announced to get baskets for the course and pledges were invited. This drew a marvellous response and something like 10 or 11 baskets were pledged. Thanks to Guy and Sophie Bolton, Charlie Mead and all the others who helped with the organisation. Next stop on the BDGA Tour is Hayling Island on 22/23 May and then the Quarry Park Open on 12/13 June. Beginners welcome! 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Important -please type "OK" the subject line. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 07:48:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA17067 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA17059 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12943 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA03898 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199905100647.HAA03898@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Thursday 13th May 1999 Rotterdam Invitational (4 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 22nd May 1999 The Magnificent Severn Tournament (2 days) @ Shrewsbury [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jack Phone (01743) 270262 URL http://members.tripod.com/MagnificentSevern/ Contact Tom Phone (01743) 235751 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Hayling Island [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@westsussex.gov.uk Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 7th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Saturday 14th August 1999 Worlds (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 08:56:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA22629 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:55:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA22620 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:55:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA16779 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:55:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.23.8] (helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10gkuI-0007eY-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:55:22 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:48:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour II - and assorted things.... Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:48:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Haven't done this for a while... Congrats to UTI for bouncing back! and to Chev for breaking a long-standing record. Thanks to the Si Weeks and anyone who helped him organise the tournament. Apologies to anyone who had to play on "pitch 1" because I spat the dummy and refused to play on it. (My interest was that our team's injury-list didn't get any longer... ) With that comment in mind can I urge everyone to consider how 32-team tourneys are so difficult to organise in terms of finding good quality venues. Maybe we could look to change the format of the tour in some way next year? I'm obviously suggesting that there should be less teams - but done in such a way that more non-tour tournaments are encouraged and are able to take place. Unfortunately I don't really have the time to offer much help right now - so I will of course merrily play in whatever setup is kindly organised by those people who put in the time and effort. See you in Edinburgh... or even Rotterdam! Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 09:57:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA02394 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02388 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21968 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id EAA00324; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA07929; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (SMI-8.6/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id JAA12017; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:12 +0100 Received: by exlon05.lonserv3.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:12 +0100 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578AD3D250@exlon05.lonserv3.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: Querie about ultimate Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Quentin Koetter [SMTP:quen@globalnet.co.uk] > Sent: 09 May 1999 18:27 > To: aflores@lehman.com > Subject: Querie about ultimate > > I have been throwing a frisbee around for about 8 years and recently heard > about ultimate. I am interested in joining an Ultimate team and have been > browsing over some of the teams related websites. > Can you mail me some onformation on your team (location, where you train > etc). I live in London NW3 and am looking for something local or > alternatively in town. > > Thanks for your time. > > You can email me on this address or panswift@dircon.co.uk > > Raj Panjwani From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 10:33:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA10142 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:31:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10130 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:31:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25281 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:31:47 +0100 (BST) Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:30:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: London Summer League/Sheffield Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:30:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone out there planning to organise the London summer league soon? Lots of people have been asking about it and I think the turn out will be big this year. Thanks a lot to Simon (and all who helped him) for a great tournament at the weekend, congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. Can anyone remember this happening before? Cheers Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 10:49:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14210 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:48:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14188 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe12.hotmail.com [207.82.253.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA13090 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 43485 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 09:51:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510095101.43484.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.233.145 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:51:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.233.145] From: "Alison Colyer" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Poole ultimate Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:51:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm moving down to Poole in two weeks time and will be based (trapped?) there for about three months. Does anyone know of a team that I can train with around there, or even just some player to throw around with? I do have a car and don't mind travelling a little way to get in some play whenever possible. Ta, Alison Colyer Stallyns ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 10:49:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14343 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:48:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14304 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:48:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd128.hotmail.com [207.82.252.192]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA13161 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:48:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 30210 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 09:48:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510094816.30209.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.202 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:48:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.202] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, yo@eprimas.demon.co.uk, k970003@kingston.ac.uk, gynga@excite.com, hannah@ultimate19.freeserve.co.uk, hjss@richardsbutler.com, Hannah.Easter@CRO.LIGHTING.philips.com, jessicac@walker.co.uk, kawij@hotmail.com, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, FaneS@logica.com Subject: Womens Practice Reminder Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:48:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to reminder you all of the Womens Practice in London Regents Park at 18.30 tonight, at the back of the Zoo. See you all there. Vanessa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 10:54:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA15991 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15929 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk [146.176.161.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27785 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from dcs.napier.ac.uk (pcg78e [146.176.161.89]) by poseidon.dcs.napier.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08823 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:49:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3736AC6F.34577D28@dcs.napier.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:47 +0100 From: paul meaney Organization: Department of Computing, Napier University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-NECCK (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: London Summer League/Sheffield References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >, congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. > Can anyone remember this happening before? > Yep, Sneeekys did it at Chew Magna back in about 1994. We stuffed a full strength Samurai 12-6 in the semi and then got utterly walloped 13- 1 by a brand- new team going by the name of Shotgun Wedding. If you're going to make the final and win spirit, what better tournament to do it at... Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 10:55:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA16281 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:53:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16260 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:53:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd103.hotmail.com [207.82.252.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA27888 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:53:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 80831 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 09:54:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510095415.80830.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.155 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:54:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.155] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: London Summer League/Sheffield Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:54:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. >Can anyone remember this happening before? > >Cheers >Dave Not the tour, but at Dublin 97 Shooting Sorcerers (St Andrews/Edinburgh/Dundee combo) won the toury and spirit. Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 11:24:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA23795 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:22:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23730 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:22:46 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990510095415.80830.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:15 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: London Summer League/Sheffield Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >>congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. >>Can anyone remember this happening before? >> >>Cheers >>Dave > >Not the tour, but at Dublin 97 Shooting Sorcerers (St >Andrews/Edinburgh/Dundee combo) won the toury and spirit. > >Jes* The winners of the 1996 WUGC (for national teams) Open Division were the USA (represented by Death or Glory, aka DOG) who also won the SOTG award! Meanwhile, in the same event, GB Women, GB Masters and GB Guts came away with the SOTG in their divisions! ... and what a party THAT was!!! Sam (Chevron old git). From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 12:02:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA03160 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:59:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03142 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:59:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe1.hotmail.com [207.82.253.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA04860 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:59:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 35401 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 11:02:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510110202.35400.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.1.129 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:02:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.1.129] From: "Alison Colyer" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Sharks Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 04:02:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jason from Sharks, if you're on brit disc please e-mail me 'cause I seem to have got your address wrong. If not, can someone please sent me his address. Ta, Al Stallyns ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 12:31:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA11176 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:29:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11165 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:29:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00896 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:29:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.195.0.131] (helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10goFk-000Pwj-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:29:45 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 10goF8-0005QK-00; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:29:09 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:07:15 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: London Summer League/Sheffield Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:07:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk How about DoG (Death or Glory) representing USA at Worlds in Sweden in 1996. They won Worlds and Spirit. Now that takes some doing. -----Original Message----- From: paul meaney [SMTP:st8124@dcs.napier.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:53 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: London Summer League/Sheffield >, congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. > Can anyone remember this happening before? > Yep, Sneeekys did it at Chew Magna back in about 1994. We stuffed a full strength Samurai 12-6 in the semi and then got utterly walloped 13- 1 by a brand- new team going by the name of Shotgun Wedding. If you're going to make the final and win spirit, what better tournament to do it at... Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 12:45:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA14458 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:43:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14447 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:43:57 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03226 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:43:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:43:46 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:43:44 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FE7C@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: London Summer League/Sheffield Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:43:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: David Trovell [SMTP:david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk] > Sent: 10 May 1999 10:30 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: London Summer League/Sheffield > > > Thanks a lot to Simon (and all who helped him) for a great tournament at > the > weekend, congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. > Can anyone remember this happening before? > [M.J.Jefferson] OK, not quite the Worlds, but Whiplash did the double (with more than a little help from an eclectic mix of pick-ups) at Cam 98. Great time had by all. Which brings me to the point of the message: are there any plans for a Cam 99 - Dora, Dave, Graham ??? > Cheers > Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 13:13:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA21425 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:12:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21416 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:12:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from wsa-dns.wsatkins.co.uk (wsa.wsatkins.co.uk [193.117.23.130]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12250 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:12:02 +0100 (BST) Received: by wsa-dns.wsatkins.co.uk with ESMTP from TELFORD (telford.wsatkins.co.uk [10.126.2.253]) id NAA24807 for (3.2/3.2); Mon, 10 May 1999 13:16:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from WS_ATKINS-3/SpoolDir by TELFORD (Mercury 1.21); 10 May 99 13:14:26 BST Received: from SpoolDir by WS_ATKINS-3 (Mercury 1.30); 10 May 99 13:14:08 BST From: "Tom Supple" Organization: ws atkins To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:14:06 BST Subject: Magnificent Severn.......you know you want to! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: <82BD9572B00@TELFORD> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk MAGNIFICENT SEVERN ULTIMATE FRISBEE TOURNAMENT OUTDOOR - 22ND -23RD MAY. SHREWSBURY - SHROPSHIRE There are still a few limited places for this tournament, so book now to avoid disappointment. This is a fun, friendly tournament with great pitches, on the banks of the River Severn. It is definately not 'Iron Man' only, but if you feel fit then go for your life! There is camping organised for Saturday, with a party & late bar organised within stumbling distance. The cost is stlg85 per team. Email back to book a place or send a cheque to Jack Goolden (address below). Cheques for the tourney should be made payable to 'Magnificent Severn' and sent to Jack Goolden 5 Cleveland Street Monkmoor Shrewsbury Shropshire SY2 5DN cheers see you there.... tom p.s We do have a website to visit if you've got access to the Internet. Search for Ultimatum online and then access the Diary of Events. Our web page 'Magnificent Severn' is linked to this site. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 13:16:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA22540 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:16:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22531 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:16:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd87.hotmail.com [207.82.252.151]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA08464 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:16:31 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 84080 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 12:16:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510121625.84079.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.133.199.35 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:16:25 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.133.199.35] From: "Chris Adams" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Joining a team Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:16:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello I'm keen to try and join an ultimate team in either Surrey or SW London. I live just outside Guildfiord and would appreciate any suggestions. Cheers, Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 14:13:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA06738 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06719 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from SHREWSBURY (mailgate.shrewsbury.org.uk [195.173.64.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA17378 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.shrewsbury.local [192.168.95.157] by shrewsbury.org.uk [195.173.64.5] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP4.R) for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:13:25 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19990510141113.29970b12@mail.shrewsbury.local> X-Sender: KTBARNES@mail.shrewsbury.local X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:13 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: KTBARNES@shrewsbury.org.uk Subject: An interested suporter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ktbarnes@shrewsbury.org.uk Reply-To: KTBARNES@shrewsbury.org.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am interested in knowing about the location and times of the frisbee championships that will be taking place here in Shrewsbury on the 22nd May. I know how to play the game and would be interested in taking part (if that is possible), but if not, I am a sixth former at Shrewsbury school and so I was hoping to be able to wonder over and watch some games taking place. I got this E-mail address from a friend who plays for Brunel Univeristy. I look forward to some real ultimate frisbeeing! Best regards, Kevin Barnes From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 10 14:43:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA14510 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:41:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14474 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:41:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk (wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk [131.111.48.24]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22213 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:41:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10gqJP-0004Kc-00; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:41:39 +0100 To: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: London Summer League/Sheffield Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:41:39 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk CAM 99: ---------------- There will indeed be a CAM99 event, Saturday June 19th & Sunday June 20th. It's going to be a small event, with invitations going out to local teams soon. If you want to be invited, please email me, and I'll see what we can do. We only have a small number of fields this time, so sorry, we're going to have to keep things small and cosy this time. Here is the web page: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/cam99/ Yours, David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 01:06:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA09661 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:04:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA09651 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:04:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA06291 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:04:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10h026-000DLc-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:04:26 +0000 Subject: London Summer League Date: Tue, 11 May 99 01:05:16 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there Are there any London-based teams/players interested in getting a short summer league going? This is the plan (subject to suitable levels of interest)... 1) Teams tell us they're interested 2) We come up with a schedule 3) Games are "flexibly" scheduled for weeknights (to avoid tournaments). 4) You go and play them - each team might have one game every week or two, but no more often than that. 5) We compile the results, work out who's won. Maybe there'd be a "final" to decide. We'd like to ensure that any such league doesn't disintegrate after a few weeks, as this would make it all a little pointless. So before you say "yes, we'd like to enter", please ensure: a) that you have enough players who are honestly prepared to give it a go; b) that you can make it to the usual central-london venues (e.g. Clapham or Regents Park) on a mid-week evening; Teams can be either your usual BUF-type team, or you can grab a bunch of mates and throw a team together specifically for the league. Just make sure there's enough on your team to play 7-a-side, allowing for some players not showing up, etc. Have a think about it, make some calls, then if you'd like to enter, get back to me with the following information: * Name of the team * Contact name, telephone no, e-mail * Preferred "home ground" out of either Clapham Common or Regents Park. Or if you have an idea for somewhere else fairly central and accessible that we could play some games, do tell. We'd aim to get started by the first week of June, so don't leave it too long. Thanks Paul P.S. This would be in addition to, rather than instead of, the pickup games at Clapham Common. Hopefully that'll start this week. --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 08:10:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA28445 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:07:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28437 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:07:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA24400 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:07:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10h6d4-0003Yt-0A; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:07:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:17:50 +0100 To: David Trovell Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Keen Hoong Koon & Adeline Fonseka-Koon Subject: Re: London Summer League/Sheffield In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In message , David Trovell writes >Is anyone out there planning to organise the London summer league soon? >Lots of people have been asking about it and I think the turn out will be >big this year. > >Thanks a lot to Simon (and all who helped him) for a great tournament at the >weekend, congrats to Chevy for making the final AND winning spirit. >Can anyone remember this happening before? > >Cheers >Dave (Deep sucking of breath) Okay, here's a radical thought: How many people would be interested in attending a two-day hat tourney in central London, in Regent's Park to be exact. The Friendly Fires one-day tournament that I organized a couple of months ago was a lot of fun, and it did have the distinction of providing Dough Boys a stage for their debut, but in the end, it seemed that a good thrid of the people playing were picking up. It occurs to me that there must be a large number of loose players and/or players who have skipped tournaments outside the immediate vicinity of London who are very keen to play IN London. If you think this is a good idea, then please email me with expressions of interest AND I will need at least four other people with some organization skills and a little free time to help me pull it off. IF you feel like chipping in then please, please let me know. Once the results are in, I'll see if the idea has legs. Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers: (sometimes First Touch) -- Keen Hoong Koon & Adeline Fonseka-Koon From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 11:08:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA29491 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:07:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29481 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:07:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18876 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:07:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10h9RW-0003ob-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:07:19 +0000 Subject: Re: London Summer League Date: Tue, 11 May 99 11:08:10 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >4) You go and play them - each team might have one game every week or >two, but no more often than that. Sorry, not very good wording... I meant that the most you'd have would be one game a week. With luck you'd have only one game every two weeks, which I imagine would be a little easier on everyone. Sorry for the confusion. While I'm here, if there are any individual players who would like play in the League, but don't have a team, please get in touch and I'll see what I can do. Cheers Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 14:29:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA12940 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:27:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12864 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:26:58 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26246 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:48:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:46:49 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:46:45 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FE8B@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:46:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, sorry, fucked up again. I've lost our Tout III invite and need the following info. Eternally grateful. How much? To who? Where to? Cheers Mark Whiplash From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 15:15:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA25889 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:13:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25868 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f106.hotmail.com [209.185.131.169]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA28208 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:13:28 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 86281 invoked by uid 0); 11 May 1999 14:13:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511141336.86280.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.133.226.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:13:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.133.226.38] From: "Woody ." To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Superfly Recruitment Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A month ago Superfly were not going to be entering this year's Tour as we have lost a lot of key players (all for perfectly good reasons). However we have decided to go for it and managed to get a team together for Tour II by picking up players. As such, we are currently recruiting new players so that we can have a Nottingham based squad who can train together, and complete the Tour with a reliable backbone to the team. So, if anyone has moved to Nottingham (or the surrounding area) and needs a team to play for, or used to play Ultimate and wants to get back into it then let me know. Also, any new players will be gratefully received. We practice on Sundays at 14:00 on either Forest Fields or the Meadows. If you are interested then call Woody on 07971 975568 or e-mail me at Woody_141@Hotmail.com. Please pass this message on to anyone who doesn't subscribe to Britdisc but may be interested. Thanks, Woody Superfly ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 15:48:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA04510 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:46:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04438; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:46:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04434; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:46:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10hDkj-0003vA-00; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:43:25 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 11 May 99 15:43:26 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 11 May 99 15:43:20 +0100 From: "Si Weeks" To: All.Teams@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:43:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour II Results CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3A825DB1D47@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for the delay I had an exam today and funnily enough I didn't get much revision done over the weekend. Firstly I'd like to appologise that some of the pitches were not prepared to the standard I had been promised. I'd also like to thank Chris Hughes again for sorting out the schedule, Aileen for sorting out the SOTG and finishing positions while I was playing in the final, all the Phat 'Eds who helped me pick up all the litter and anyone else who distributed/collected cones etc for me. As you can imagine I have not had time to do a report, but here are the final positions: 32. Phat Fingers 31. Bruce Lee Dragons 30. Superfly 29. Albatross (Spoon Winners) 28. Red II 27. Slipped Disc 26. Twin Peaks 25. Skunks 24. Jedi Children 23. Blue Arse Flies II 22. Gael Force 21. Whiplash (Divisional Winners) 20. Mild Mannered Janitors 19. Wyld Stallions 18. SMUDGE 17. Sharks 16. Bliss 15. Phat 'Eds 14. Pookas 13. Mwnci Mohawk Magic (Divisional Winners) 12. Strange Blue 11. Night Fever 10. SOUP 9. First Touch 8. Headrush 7. Red 6. Blue Arse Flies 5. Dough Boy (Plate Winners) 4. Fluid Druids 3. Catch 22 2. Chevron Action Flash 1. Under The Influence And of course the most important award of the weekend, SOTG Winners: CHEVRON ACTION FLASH Thanks everyone for coming, Si Weeks P.S. In an attempt to get some work done I am now signing off Britdisc, so if anything is particularly relevant to me please forward it directly. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 16:35:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA16627 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:34:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA16619 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:34:03 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12350 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:34:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:29:23 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:29:21 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FE97@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Outdoor Session, Warwick Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:29:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To everyone in the area, and indeed anyone who is not, we'll be holding a training session at Warwick Uni this Saturday from 12:00. Everyone is invited to come along and have a game. I hope to see you there. If anyone needs directions just ask. Mark Whiplash From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 17:46:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA04746 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:45:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04731 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:45:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mcfeely.interaccess.com (mcfeely.interaccess.com [207.208.133.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA22471 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:45:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [206.183.83.99]) by mcfeely.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA19817 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:45:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: FROM exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com BY mailhost.spencerstuart.com ; Tue May 11 11:48:18 1999 Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <2TTJ7P4Q>; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:49:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: More press attention! Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:45:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes I've been scanning the national press for Ultimate titbits again. Well done to York's nameless Ultimate team for getting their photo into the Guardian today in a short article on the recent York v Lancaster varsity weekend. You'll have to search hard to find it, though, on page v of the Higher section, inside the Education supplement, inside the G2 section. Nice shirts! Cheers Wayne Albatross & Overflow(!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 22:24:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA12474 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:22:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12461 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:22:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from hen.scotland.net (hen6.scotland.net [194.247.64.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12578 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:22:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from [148.176.239.97] (helo=e2c5p51.scotland.net) by hen.scotland.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #7) id 10hJyn-0002VG-00; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:22:21 +0100 Received: by e2c5p51.scotland.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BE9BFC.F9470E80@e2c5p51.scotland.net>; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:24:02 +0100 Message-ID: <01BE9BFC.F9470E80@e2c5p51.scotland.net> From: Michael Johnson To: "'Paul Hurt'" , BritDisc Subject: RE: London Summer League Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:25:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk yes, or i'd even prefer just pick-up games maybe on a designated day and park so we can have numbers MJ -----Original Message----- From: Paul Hurt [SMTP:paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk] Sent: 11 May 1999 01:05 To: BritDisc Subject: London Summer League Hi there Are there any London-based teams/players interested in getting a short summer league going? This is the plan (subject to suitable levels of interest)... 1) Teams tell us they're interested 2) We come up with a schedule 3) Games are "flexibly" scheduled for weeknights (to avoid tournaments). 4) You go and play them - each team might have one game every week or two, but no more often than that. 5) We compile the results, work out who's won. Maybe there'd be a "final" to decide. We'd like to ensure that any such league doesn't disintegrate after a few weeks, as this would make it all a little pointless. So before you say "yes, we'd like to enter", please ensure: a) that you have enough players who are honestly prepared to give it a go; b) that you can make it to the usual central-london venues (e.g. Clapham or Regents Park) on a mid-week evening; Teams can be either your usual BUF-type team, or you can grab a bunch of mates and throw a team together specifically for the league. Just make sure there's enough on your team to play 7-a-side, allowing for some players not showing up, etc. Have a think about it, make some calls, then if you'd like to enter, get back to me with the following information: * Name of the team * Contact name, telephone no, e-mail * Preferred "home ground" out of either Clapham Common or Regents Park. Or if you have an idea for somewhere else fairly central and accessible that we could play some games, do tell. We'd aim to get started by the first week of June, so don't leave it too long. Thanks Paul P.S. This would be in addition to, rather than instead of, the pickup games at Clapham Common. Hopefully that'll start this week. --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 11 23:04:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA17260 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA17247 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA15184 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailer.york.ac.uk (mailer.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.96]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA28228; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:23 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:02:22 +0100 (BST) From: Walker the Small To: "Ziants, Wayne" cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Re: More press attention! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. -Rabbit <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> On Tue, 11 May 1999, Ziants, Wayne wrote: > Yes I've been scanning the national press for Ultimate titbits again. > > Well done to York's nameless Ultimate team for getting their photo into > the Guardian today in a short article on the recent York v Lancaster > varsity weekend. You'll have to search hard to find it, though, on page > v of the Higher section, inside the Education supplement, inside the G2 > section. Nice shirts! Well it's about time we finally got ourselve off the ground! Glad you like the shirts (they took long enough to find!). Catherine (Yorkie Bar Kids) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 12 08:46:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA09517 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:45:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09505 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:45:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd104.hotmail.com [207.82.252.168]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA05894 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:45:44 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 15643 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 07:45:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512074542.15642.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.208 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:45:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.208] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, yo@eprimas.demon.co.uk, k970003@kingston.ac.uk, gynga@excite.com, hannah@ultimate19.freeserve.co.uk, hjss@richardsbutler.com, Hannah.Easter@CRO.LIGHTING.philips.com, jessicac@walker.co.uk, kawij@hotmail.com, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, FaneS@logica.com Subject: Womens Practice Reminder EVERY Monday Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:45:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to the success of last Monday and the strong desire to learn how to throw in the wind there will be practices in Regent's Park by the zoo EVERY Monday at 18.30. Hope to see even more women there next time. Vanessa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 12 11:21:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09352 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09303 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27604 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:19:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10hW6M-000BzZ-0K; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:18:58 +0000 Subject: RE: London Summer League Date: Wed, 12 May 99 11:19:51 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "Michael Johnson" , "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >yes, or i'd even prefer just pick-up games maybe on a designated day and >park so we can have numbers > >MJ For those who'd rather just play pickup, the idea is to keep the once-a-week pickup games at Clapham Common going, much as we've had the last two years. That's *supposed* to start this week, but I'm still trying to get an ok from Lambeth Council - which isn't proving easy. However, the "league" part of the Clapham practice we intend to abandon (way too difficult to organise, and not worth the effort when you consider how quickly it tends to disintegrate). Now there are more teams in London, a proper "league" should be practical, at least in theory. And I'm sure many teams would appreciate the opportunity to gain more competitive experience which they can use at the Tour, etc. Perhaps one day we'll have one of those burgeoning (sp?) city leagues like in North America. Wouldn't that be good? It might start with just three or four teams this year, but if it goes well it gives us something to build on in the following years. BTW, I've started a database of players without teams who'd like to play in the league. So... * If you're a player without a team, get in touch. E-mail and telephone no. would be useful. * If you're putting a team together and you need extra players, let me know and I'll mail you the current list. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 12 12:21:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA25421 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:20:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25409 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:20:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.lancs.ac.uk (mail2.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.8.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA08313 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:20:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.lancs.ac.uk (actually host localhost) by mail2.lancs.ac.uk with Local SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 May 1999 12:16:56 +0100 Received: from unixc.lancs.ac.uk (unixc.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.116]) by mail2.lancs.ac.uk with SpooMTA 1.24; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:16:56 +0000 Received: (from ultimate@localhost) by unixc.lancs.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) id MAA02175; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:17:04 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:17:04 +0100 (BST) From: Lancaster Ultimate To: britdisc cc: students Subject: Campus visit day to the fish!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all you britdiscers and student types, We have just got this e-mail from the local education officer, who is the person that organises those visits to Universities for kids in the region. She has found our club via our web page (which is linked to our Athletic Union site) and has found it interesting enough to bring some kids along to a training session. This sort of thing is ideal for that whole topic of more publicity, and who better than the new generation of ultimate players! Who knows, maybe some of these kids that are coming along will remember our crazy sport and become a member of their local or University club. So all you student types out there, go and find out if this sort of thing is happening at your University, and get stuck in!! Scott ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reservoir Fish Ultimate at Lancaster ultimate@lancaster.ac.uk http://www.lancs.ac.uk/socs/ultimate --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:17:14 +0100 From: Goodall, Elaine To: "'ultimate@lancaster.ac.uk'" Subject: Campus visit day (Monday 21st June) Hello, My name is Elaine Goodall and I am working for the Community Access Programme based in the Department of Educational Research. On the 21st of June we are organising a campus visit day for small groups of secondary school pupils (aged about 14) and their parents. Each year we arrange for the pupils, in groups of about ten at a time, to take part in various activities around the campus. In the past these activities have been organised by departments around the university, but we are hoping to include some societies this year to show the pupils that there is more to university life than departmental activities! After reading your society's web page, I thought that it might be a society that these pupils would be interested in. If there is any chance that you might be able to offer to introduce a small group of pupils to what your society does, and perhaps to organise a short activity for them to do (the sessions organised are expected to last about 45 minutes each), then please get in touch with us as soon as you can. The campus visit day is Monday the 21st of June (week 10). Please read the following attachment for further information (if you have problems accessing the attachment, please let me know) Thank you very much for taking the time to read this. I hope that you will be able to offer us your support. Yours sincerely, Elaine Goodall Community Access Programme Assistant From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 13 12:51:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA27162 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:48:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27148 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:48:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11597 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:48:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10hty6-0003Vu-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:48:02 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 13 May 99 12:48:01 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.43); 13 May 99 12:47:50 +0100 From: "pete" To: , Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:47:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Pick up for TOUR III X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <3D6E8AB7BE9@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks, This is really for the students out there, so non-students need read no further. There was a student pick up team at Tour II, Sheffield, and we are hoping to enter a similar team for Tour III. So all you students who fancy a bit of ultimate in Scotland, 7th and 8th June, but dont have a team to play with, register your interest by e-mailing Ultimate@Sheffield.ac.uk, and come and play for with us. See you north of the boader, Phat' Eds. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 13 13:23:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06565 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:21:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06544 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:21:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15226 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:21:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.200]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10huUk-0007A7-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:21:46 +0100 Received: from DUNDEE-AS/SpoolDir by dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 13 May 99 13:21:01 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-AS (Mercury 1.44); 13 May 99 13:20:58 +0 From: "Steve Morrish" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:20:50 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Outdoor tournament in Dundee....... CC: shooting_stars@egroups.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA06548 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good afternoon folks! This is just a quick e-mail to guage interest in an outdoor tournament in the fair city of Dundee. We propose to hold it in October, the likely date being week three of the new term......think it's around about the 20th. I realise that the Freshers tournament in Edinburgh is also around this time, but we will make sure that this tourney does not clash with it. This will be the first event of its kind in Dundee. We are hoping to attract as many teams as possible. Should we get a massive response (please.......) we will restrict it to a maximum of 31 entries (which will make 32 teams, ourselves included). The facilities here are excellent, and there's no problem with accomodation, as long as you don't mind kipping on floors. If the response is positive, and we hope that it will be, I'll send out confirmation in the next few weeks. The entry fee will be quite cheap compared to other tournaments, and we'd only be looking for approx. £50 per team. If there are any pick-ups wanting to play, then the charge for them would be £5 per person. Please reply to either myself via this address or my hotmail account, which is morshy@hotmail.com, or to Elaine (the Vice Captain) whose address is "e.e.kenwell@dundee.ac.uk" We look forward to receiving your replies, and also to seeing you all in Dundee in October. As ever, if there is anyone who may be interested in this, but not subscribed to Britdisc, please pass it on. Yours fervently and servently, Starky Captain, Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 13 14:25:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22375 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22355 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:23:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20697 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:23:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10hvSA-000AiT-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:23:11 +0000 Subject: Clapham pickup games - good news Date: Thu, 13 May 99 14:24:03 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi you Londoners... To all those waiting to play at Clapham Common I finally have some promising news: Lambeth Council have agreed to let us use pitches 17 and 18 at Clapham. These are positioned just around the back of the Eagle Pond site where the Shotgun practice always was (is?). The bonus is that they're very possibly going to mark them for us as well. (TBC). This will be a great help in justifying our claim to the space when we come to the inevitable problem of having to turf off indignant soccer players. Other good features: * It's close to Clapham South tube * It's close to the pub Things should kick off next THURSDAY NIGHT (the 20th). I'll confirm more later. Cheers Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 13 17:51:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA11935 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:49:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11902 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:49:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay02.esat.net (relay02.esat.net [192.111.39.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08783 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:49:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay02.esat.net with smtp id 10hyfj-0002tc-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:49:23 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:43:13 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" , "EuroDisc" Cc: Subject: Shameless self promotion of Disc Golf/Ultimate in Ireland Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:48:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be9d60$61163860$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi fellow discers, I'll be giving a radio interview about Disc Golf and Ultimate in Ireland this Saturday, May 15th. The reason why I am mentioning this far and wide is that you can listen to it on the Internet. The address is http://www.rte.ie/radioone.ram. You'll need to download a (free) G2 RealPlayer from Real Networks (http://www.real.com) in order to hear it. Hopefully, I won't make a complete ass of myself. The name of the programme is 'Short Circuit' and it is on at 11:00 am, Irish time. We're in the same time zone as London, and are currently in daylight savings time, one hour behind Europe, and five hours ahead of the Eastern Daylight Time in North America. As a favour, I would sincerely appreciate it if someone out there could record the interview using a version of RealPlayer Plus (the one you have to pay for). Thanks, Peter Bennison Pookas - Dublin Ultimate President (yeah!) of the Irish Disc Golf Assoc. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 13 18:04:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14228 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:03:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14222 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:03:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09768 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:03:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.200]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10hytC-0004Jg-00; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:03:18 +0100 Received: from DUNDEE-AS/SpoolDir by dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 13 May 99 18:02:33 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-AS (Mercury 1.44); 13 May 99 18:02:09 +0 From: "Steve Morrish" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, scotdisc@egroups.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:02:08 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Dundee outdoors! CC: shooting_stars@egroups.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'd just like to clarify one or two things about my original e-mail, regarding the possibility of hosting an outdoor tournament in this, the wonderful city of Discovery. I may, inadvertantly, have given the impression that this tournament is for students only, by inferring that it will be held in 'week three of term one'. I would like to stress that any and all teams are welcome, beginners, open teams, Masters, students.....anyone basically who can get a team of 7 or more together (and even if you can't manage 7, there's bound to be loads of pick ups (he said, with various parts of his anatomy crossed)) and can throw a frisbee. The emphasis of this tournament is fun, but we hope to be able to provide a level of competition which will attract the more serious of ultimaters out there, and if successful, we hope it will be something we can sort out and arrange on an annual basis. If anyone requires any further clarification, any details, anything at all, please contact me at the above address, or at morshy@hotmail.com any time after June 1st. Look forward to hearing from you all soon. Fervently and servently, Starky Captain, Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 13 23:49:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA27635 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:48:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27623 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:48:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27087 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:48:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-005.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.5]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA07487 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:40:34 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01c201be9d92$dd64a820$05a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Fw: BUF Web Page Enquiry Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:46:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Any takers? Another new UTI player perhaps......? -----Original Message----- From: Patrick McNabb To: BUF Date: 13 May 1999 02:48 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Patrick McNabb >Address1: Vancouver >Address2: Canada >Post Code: >Telephone: >Fax: >Message: Hey there, > I am a B level ultimate player here in Canada and I am going to be in London/other bits of Great Britain >between May 17th and June 4th. I was hoping to find some pick up games in or around London or possibly any >tournaments that I can register in as a single. Any help you guys can give me would be great! > >Cheers, > >Pat > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 14 00:02:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29111 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:01:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA29086 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:01:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA20684 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:01:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.229.115.75] (helo=couplehood.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10i4TX-0008HB-0A; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:01:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:00:40 +0100 To: British Ultimate Federation Cc: BRITDISC From: Keen Hoong Koon & Adeline Fonseka-Koon Subject: Fw: BUF Web Page Enquiry In-Reply-To: <01c201be9d92$dd64a820$05a492c3@pii266> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1pm onwards at Regent's Park, just south of the London Zoo is where first touch has a game that you can pick up at. We seem to have a fair number of Canadians so you won't be alone. Cheers, Adam Keen In message <01c201be9d92$dd64a820$05a492c3@pii266>, British Ultimate Federation writes >Any takers? > >Another new UTI player perhaps......? > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick McNabb >To: BUF >Date: 13 May 1999 02:48 >Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry > > >>You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site >> >>Name: Patrick McNabb >>Address1: Vancouver >>Address2: Canada >>Post Code: >>Telephone: >>Fax: >>Message: Hey there, >> I am a B level ultimate player here in Canada and I am going to be in >London/other bits of Great Britain >>between May 17th and June 4th. I was hoping to find some pick up games in >or around London or possibly any >>tournaments that I can register in as a single. Any help you guys can give >me would be great! >> >>Cheers, >> >>Pat >> >> >> > > -- Keen Hoong Koon & Adeline Fonseka-Koon From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 14 08:39:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA13184 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:38:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13178 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:38:43 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:38:21 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "British Ultimate Federation" Subject: New Youth Ultimate Email List Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: New Youth Ultimate Email List Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:39:25 +0100 There is now an emailing list for those of you concerned with youth ultimate teams. If you run or play for a youth team and have not already had an invite go to this page: http://youth.ultimate.listbot.com/ to join, or reply to buf@ultimateweb.co.uk and I'll send you an invite manually. Cheers Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 14 13:16:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06336 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:14:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06324 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:14:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05204 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:14:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10iGrF-0003Lk-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:14:30 +0000 Subject: Ultimatum pic is Skunks v ? Date: Fri, 14 May 99 13:15:20 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all Can someone tell me who it is Skunks are playing in this pic from Hitchin? I thought it was Mohwaks, but now I'm not so sure... Pic is on the web at: http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/hitchin.jpg Thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 14 14:20:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA22747 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22733 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:57 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11281 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.2); Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:52 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05484; Fri, 14 May 99 14:18:49 BST Message-Id: <9905141318.AA05484@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Ultimatum pic is Skunks v ? In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You were right, its Bisto of Mohawk Mwnci Magic, he is actually from the Mwnci side of things though, pete MMM > Hi all > > Can someone tell me who it is Skunks are playing in this pic from > Hitchin? I thought it was Mohwaks, but now I'm not so sure... > > Pic is on the web at: > > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/hitchin.jpg > > Thanks > > Paul > > > > --------------------------------- > Paul Hurt > > Editor, Ultimatum > paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 14 14:34:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA27375 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:33:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27355 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:33:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12601 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:33:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10iI5v-000FQS-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:33:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Ultimatum pic is Skunks v ? Date: Fri, 14 May 99 14:34:33 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >You were right, its Bisto of Mohawk Mwnci Magic, he is actually >from the Mwnci side of things though, > >pete >MMM Aha, explains it. Thanks everyone. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 16 19:32:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA14124 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:30:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA14119 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:30:27 +0100 (BST) From: david.jamieson@mail.which.net Received: from mail1-gui.server.which.net (mail1-gui.server.which.net [194.168.97.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA17087 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:30:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.which.net ([194.168.100.184]) by mail1-gui.server.which.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-33929U70000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA2299 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 19:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: <373F0E1D.CE315498@mail.which.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:27:42 +0100 Reply-To: david.jamieson@which.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Attention of Isla at Durham Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Isla, its steve formerly from St Andrews, now in Newcastle! I do not have your telephone number to get directions/times to the Durham team practices. Could you or anybody else from Durham phone me to give me the information please? My mobile number is 0411 301110. Thanks in advance See you soon Steve From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 17 10:01:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA26881 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:59:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26864 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:59:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay02.netaddress.usa.net (relay02.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.182]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA09530 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:59:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11660 invoked from network); 17 May 1999 08:59:31 -0000 Received: from nwcst022.netaddress.usa.net (HELO www02.netaddress.usa.net) (204.68.24.22) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 17 May 1999 08:59:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 2382 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 1999 08:59:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990517085931.2381.qmail@www02.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.22 by nwcst022 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.118) on Mon May 17 08:59:31 GMT 1999 Date: 17 May 99 09:59:31 BST From: M Allen To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pick-Ups for Shrewsbury X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.118) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA26865 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello. Anyone who fancies playing in Shrewsbury this weekend, SlipDisc are looking for 2 or 3 pickup players for the weekend. If you fancy a bit of fun 'n' frisbee then contact Mal. on 0121 458 1607 e-mail: mta99@usa.net I look forward to your call. Mal. SlipDisc Ultimate. http://members.tripod.com/~slipdisc/ .......\\#//.......Mal. ......[ o o ]......mta99@usa.net .........^.........++ 44 121 414 3526 (WORK) ....8..\_/..8.....++ 44 121 458 1607 (HOME) 88+++++++88....++ 1 603 297 4506 (FAX) .........+.........01426 622 042 (PAGER) ........./.\........ ...ooO...Ooo..... ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 08:57:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA21023 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:55:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21004; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:55:52 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:53:40 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: chris strehlau (by way of Dave Neilson) Subject: (GB) need a ride from london to st.andrews aug/7 Cc: chris@wallcity.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [A good old friend and fellow Suntans player posted the following to EuroDisc - for those that don't know Sprocket, he's great fun and sure to spice up any long journey! Any BD-reader who can help please contact him direct on chris@wallcity.com. Cheers - Sammy.] howdy y'all - i'd like to find a ride from london to st.andrews on august 7th. i promise good vittels and a big smile on my face. cheerz, sprocket Chris Strehlau Wall City/Jungle Bag http://www.wallcity.com 3401 merrie lynn austin, tx, 78722 u.s.a. phone 512.478.5066 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 09:28:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA25209 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:27:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25201 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:27:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26801 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:27:17 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 26751 invoked from network); 19 May 1999 08:27:09 -0000 Received: from dyn229-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.229) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 19 May 1999 08:27:09 -0000 Message-ID: <374275EA.37A97EE5@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:27:22 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" Subject: Death or Glory Web Site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It's now up again at it's new location: http://www.ultilinks.com/dog/ ...and yes, it's hosted by Ultilinks, the Ultimate Starting Point: http://www.ultilinks.com/ Ciao, Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 15:27:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18692 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:25:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18684 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:25:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18158 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:25:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 by brookes.ac.uk (8.8.7/) id PAA08093; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:25:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:25:12 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199905191425.PAA08093@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: World Clubs'99/The Big Issue Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk attn: all Staff and Players at WUCC99 WUCC99 - What’s the BIG ISSUE Idea? As you may already have heard, this year’s World Club Championships in St.Andrews is going to be a fund-raising event for The Big Issue Foundation, Scotland. In essence, the idea is that WUCC99 players, staff and spectators will raise money for the charity in return for exposure and publicity for the competition and the sport. There will be prizes for the teams and individuals who raise the most cash. This flyer is designed to explain the thinking behind the association of WUCC99 with The Big Issue Foundation, Scotland and to outline how and why we would like ALL players, staff members and teams to get involved in fund-raising. THERE IS NO OBLIGATION TO GET INVOLVED, BUT THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF THE IDEA DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT INDIVIDUALS AND TEAMS PUT IN. What is The Big Issue Foundation? The Big Issue Foundation, Scotland is a registered charity, providing vital services to Big Issue vendors and other homeless people. Every year the Foundation hosts an Open Hogmanay in Glasgow, where homeless people can come for practical help at a difficult time of year. They also run education, training, health and small business development services. The Big Issue Foundation believes strongly in offering homeless people a hand-up, not a handout, and all projects are developed with this self-help ethos in mind. We think the charity, its ethos and the image of the magazine are all highly compatible with Ultimate’s dynamism and emphasis on self-reliance and spirit, and that our association with The Big Issue Foundation could prove mutually beneficial. What’s in it for the sport? In short, more positive exposure for the tournament and the game than would otherwise be possible. Providing we put effort into fund-raising, The Big Issue in Scotland will run ads for WUCC99 in the run up to the event and plans a double page spread on Ultimate in the week of the tournament. It may also be possible to persuade The Big Issue in other parts of the UK to run the article. Associating the sport with an established and compatible charity is also going to help in attracting interest from TV, radio and the press, raising the profile of the tournament and making it easier to attract sponsorship for the sport, both in the short term - for participating players, teams and WUCC99 in general - and in the longer term - for the BUF, national teams etc. What’s in it for your team? A higher profile for WUCC99 is a plus for any team seeking sponsorship - whether simply for kit and equipment or on a larger scale. Potential sponsors want to know that their company name is going to receive maximum exposure to their target audience through you and your team. Association with a good cause is an added bonus. As fund-raisers, you should find it much easier to get the kind of publicity - in local newspapers, on regional TV and radio etc. - that will attract and maintain a sponsor’s interest. In addition, all teams raising in excess of a certain sum (probably L1000) will receive prizes from the tournament organisers. (Details to be announced - The Big Issue Foundation, Scotland is currently plying its corporate backers for appropriate gifts!) What’s in it for you? As you probably already know, the most frequent source of sponsorship for individual Ultimate players is currently funding from their own employers. Many companies and organisations are very receptive to employee requests for financial support, providing they get something in return. Approaching an employer not just to request “money to play frisbee” but to ask for “support in your efforts as a participant in a well-publicised, international sports event in aid of a famous charity” should increase your chances of success significantly! The top individual fund-raisers - whether players or staff members - will be presented with prizes on Finals Day at WUCC99 (details to be announced). What do you have to do? Each team needs a Big Issue rep whose job it will be to co-ordinate fund-raising and keep in contact with us. Volunteers please let us know who you are ASAP! You can begin fund-raising as soon as you wish. Remember - all individual and team fund-raising will take place IN ADVANCE OF the tournament, so that the amounts collected by each person/team can be totalled up and prizes awarded on Finals Day (Saturday 14 August). For this reason, you need to collect the money you raise BEFORE coming to Scotland - pledges are no substitute for cash and will not count towards your total! We will be issuing forms and further information soon. Come and talk to us, e-mail or phone if you have any questions, or have any suggestions about how to make the idea work better. Cheers ! Jon Hope & Tara Jewell WUCC99 Media & Sponsorship Tel. 01865 246158 e-mail: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Jonathan.Hope@oxtutor.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 17:04:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA11345 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:03:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11335 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:03:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06208 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:03:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10k8oO-000Goc-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:03:17 +0000 Subject: Clapham pickup games - we're starting, and to hell with 'em. Date: Wed, 19 May 99 17:04:13 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all I'm still having problems getting Lambeth Council to confirm that we can use this particular space on the Common. I'm awaiting a return call from them ("she's in a meeting" again) this afternoon, but it remains to be seen if that call ever materialises. (Update: it's now 5pm, and nothing). Because I'm sure no one wants to put it off any longer, I'm proposing that we start tomorrow (Thursday) evening regardless. Where: Near Eagle Pond, Clapham Common. However, NOT where the Shotgun practice always is/was, but just around the back of there. Go up the footpath from Windmill Lane, past the old Gun pitch on the left, and our spot is on the right of the path. Start time: From 6:45 pm, play usually gets going by 7.20 or so. There is a map up at http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/lus/ Note that there will be no league system operating this year - pickup games only. Hope people get this message in time. Spread the word, and I'll see some of you tomorrow night. Cheers all Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 17:21:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA15215 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:20:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15193 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:20:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA05419 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:20:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.01 #3) id 10k94m-0007I3-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:20:12 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:23:00 +0100 Subject: Coach to Edinburgh From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA15203 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all Strange Blue has been making enquiries about travel to Edinburgh for Tour 3 (June 5-6). The Apex and SuperAdvanced Rail tickets are sold out so the only train option is £77.30 return. We have therefore decided to hire a 29-seater coach at a cost of 880 pounds from Cambridge to Edinburgh. There are about 10 seats left which we hope to fill in order to keep the individual cost down. If filled the coach will cost 31 pounds per person. If we only get 23, which we think will be the minimum, the cost would be 38 pounds per person. The coach will be leaving central Cambridge on Friday afternoon at 4 pm. The train and bus connections between London and Cambridge are very good and relatively cheap particularly if you have a railcard. We could put people up on Sunday night on the return journey if necessary. Please email me as soon as possible if you would like to go with us. I have to pay for the coach in advance so I would need you to send me a cheque for 31 pounds to reserve your seat but get in touch by email first. Hope to see you in Cambridge. Dora Whatever does good should be held in honour, and the only shame is in doing harm - Plato McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 21:41:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA23639 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA23628 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21462 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:40:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10kD8L-000AlZ-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:40:09 +0000 Subject: London Summer League (and Clapham practices) Date: Wed, 19 May 99 21:41:07 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all For attn of London players/teams... There seems to be a bit of confusion between the proposed London Summer League, and the Clapham Thursday night pickup games... The confusion is this: we're abandoning the "league" part of the LUS which we've had the last two years. It's a lot of work collecting names and organising everyone into teams, and if some people suddenly stop showing up it can knacker an entire team. The LUS league would be fun while it lasted, but tended to fall apart eventually one way or another. So Thursday nights are now pickup only. It's just too unfair to ask anyone to organise it all if it's going to collapse after four weeks. Perhaps, whenever we have two games, we can arbitrarily keep it divided into a "serious" game, and a less serious one. However, there now seem to be enough teams and players in London to start a REAL summer league, as a completely separate entity to LUS. This is partly so that London "geo-teams" can gain some additional competitive playing experience outside of the Tour. It may also encourage the formation of new local teams - I've personally met or heard from quite a few players who would like to play Ultimate, but can't make weekend tournaments due to other commitments (and as a result don't play at all). It's also less of a headache to organise as the teams themselves are responsible for making sure they have enough players, getting started, keeping score, etc. Once again though, it's pointless organising a summer league if teams aren't going to see it through. It's easy for a team to say "Yeah, we'll do it", but please make sure you have enough players who are honestly prepared to stick with what is after all not a HUGE commitment. I would have thought that 11, preferably 12 reasonably committed individuals was a bare minimum. If any teams need an extra player or two, I have a list of people without teams who would like to play in the league, which I can forward to you. There are also enough "spare" people to form a whole team themselves - at least in theory. We'll set it up with as few as four teams. Games will be scheduled for weeknights (probably avoiding Thursdays) but if teams want to rearrange a fixture by mutual agreement then that's fine. Okay, so having said all that, let me repeat the invitation: Would your team like to play in a London Summer League? ------------------------------------------------------- Teams can either be your usual BUF-recognised lot, or if your team isn't London-based, throw together a team with your friends just for the league. Anyone who needs a few more players, I have a list of "spare" people who want to play. To register your team's interest, I need to know: * The name of the team * Details of a team contact (name, telephone, e-mail) * Which of Clapham Common or Regents Park you'd rather use as a "home" ground (which is easiest for the majority of your players to get to? If you don't have a preference then fine). Fixtures will be scheduled for weeknights (because weekends are a precious commodity for most players). The league will hopefully be finished by the end of July, and you will likely have a few "off" weeks with no fixture. Please make sure you have enough players before entering (see above). If you are a "spare" player... ----------------------------- ...and you'd like play in the league, let me know and I'll put you on the list (I could do with your name, phone number, e-mail address, and a rough idea of where you live/work) DEADLINE FOR EXPRESSING AN INTEREST IS FRIDAY MAY 28th. ------------------------------------------------------ If not enough teams have entered by then, we'll shelve the idea until next year. Come on folks, various individuals have said what a great idea this is -- now we need to see you putting your team where your mouth is (?). You have eight days... In the meantime, see you Thursdays.... http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/lus/ thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 19 21:48:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24516 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:47:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24500 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:47:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA21857 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:47:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10kDFj-000Ajm-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:47:47 +0000 Subject: What year did Shotgun form? Date: Wed, 19 May 99 21:48:44 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone please tell me the year that Shotgun got together? Also, any statto's out there remember which years they won the National Outdoors? Thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 20 09:02:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id JAA24388 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:01:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24380 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from alcatel.co.uk (gateway.alcatel.co.uk [194.73.204.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15598 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:01:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from gh04.asn.alcatel.co.uk ([193.131.18.117]) by gateway.alcatel.co.uk with ESMTP id <28001>; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:01:38 +0000 Received: by GH04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:00:54 +0100 Message-ID: <00836F3A8A79D211A65D00001D315E53CEAB7B@GH04> From: "Wilcock, Duncan" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: A Ride to Shrewsbury Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:00:46 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone going to shrewsbury this weekend who has room in their car for an extra? Happy to help out with gas and even some grub. Email/phone: Duncan: 0181 293 2401 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 20 12:25:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id MAA08572 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:24:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08545 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:24:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10749 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:24:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10kQvs-00005U-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:24:12 +0000 Subject: Re: What year did Shotgun form? Date: Thu, 20 May 99 12:25:10 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At the moment, I have: Formed 1993 (for Madison World Clubs?) Won nationals 94, 95, 96, 97. Anyone want to confirm/disagree with this (sounds about right to me)? Cheers Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 20 15:32:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id PAA21766 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:30:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21748 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:30:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay04.netaddress.usa.net (relay04.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.184]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27230 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:30:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22939 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 14:29:59 -0000 Received: from nw175.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.75) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 20 May 1999 14:29:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 21313 invoked by uid 60001); 20 May 1999 14:29:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520142959.21312.qmail@nw175.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.75 by nw175 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.135) on Thu May 20 14:29:59 GMT 1999 Date: 20 May 99 15:29:59 BST From: M Allen To: BritDisc BritDisc Subject: Oppotunity for pick-ups in Shrewsbury this weekend X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA21752 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There is still the possibiliy of a couple of places, playing for SlipDisc this weekend. In fact, we could do with a few extra players. So come on, it'll be fun. Contact Mal. mta99@usa.net 0121 458 1607 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 20 17:08:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id RAA15629 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:06:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15618 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:06:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from VMS.UCI.KUN.NL (vms.uci.kun.nl [131.174.64.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10300 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:06:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from catv6244 (catv6244.extern.kun.nl) by VMS.UCI.KUN.NL (PMDF V5.1-10 #8798) with SMTP id <01JBFGZHAV5S002RU2@VMS.UCI.KUN.NL> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:50 +0200 (MET-DST) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:10:26 +0200 From: Linda Subject: The Dutch Open X-Sender: s9610375@hermes.uci.kun.nl To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <3.0.5.32.19990520181026.007d35b0@hermes.uci.kun.nl> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Frisbee people, Can anybody send me a list of all (or some) frisbeeclubs in England. Or tell me where to find some of your adresses. We need them so we can invite you to the Dutch Open, that will be held on september the 11th and 12th. Now we only have 2 adresses of teams from England. I sure hope anyone can help me. Linda Op het Veld BFrisBee2's, Nijmegen, the Netherlands. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 20 17:18:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id RAA17711 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:17:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17702 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:17:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13102 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:17:23 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11848 invoked from network); 20 May 1999 16:17:07 -0000 Received: from dyn205-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.205) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 20 May 1999 16:17:07 -0000 Message-ID: <37443548.28EDDAA5@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:16:08 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: l.ophetveld@student.kun.nl CC: BritDisc Subject: Re: The Dutch Open References: <3.0.5.32.19990520181026.007d35b0@hermes.uci.kun.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Linda wrote: > > Hi Frisbee people, > > Can anybody send me a list of all (or some) frisbeeclubs in England. Well, of course there's Ultilinks: http://www.ultilinks.com/ with more than 800 links to all the ultimate-related sites on the WWW. Or if you want a (printable) list of English clubs only, check out: http://ultilynx.ultilinks.com/t_UK.html Good luck with your tournament, Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 21 10:08:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id KAA08707 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:07:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08697 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:07:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25030 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:07:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10klGm-0007Ff-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:07:08 +0000 Subject: Missing some results Date: Fri, 21 May 99 10:08:03 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, again.... Bit of a long shot, but does anyone have results from any of the following: * Ross-on-Wye 1998 * Women's Outdoors, Headington Girls School, October 98 * Hong Kong Sevens (mud-fest!), Leeds, October 98 * Women's Indoors, Leeds, February this year * Southern BUF Indoor Regional (not student one), Plymouth, March this year Even the winners and runners up would be better than nowt. Issue 38 going to press Monday or Tuesday next week. Thanks. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 21 17:49:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id RAA21102 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:48:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21095 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:48:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de (irafs1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.100]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA12134 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:48:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de [129.13.2.181] by irafs1 with SMTP (PP); Fri, 21 May 1999 18:48:16 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Organisation: Faculty of Informatics, University of Karlsruhe Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:48:40 +0200 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Fridericiana-Cup in Karlsruhe (June 12/13) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Invitation So, you don't know where to go with your team on June 12/13 ? But you would appreciate attending a tournament ? There still is room for your team at the 3rd Fridericiana Cup in Karlsruhe, Germany Karlsruhe is located in the south of Germany in the Rhine valley, just 130 km south of Frankfurt and 60 km south of Heidelberg. This event is hosted by 6 sports groups of the University of Karlsruhe. However, your team needs not to be a student team to attend. We will have 2 Ultimate fields to use and plan to host up to 12 teams. Together with the other sports events (beach volleyball, swimming, hockey, basketball, water polo) we will be a big crowd of sports and fun enthusiasts (check out the pictures of last year's web cam at http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~schwimmen/ois/webbilder.htm ) and the party(ies) should just be great ! For more information have a look at the tournament web page http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Fridericiana-Cup/ You can also send an e-mail to frisbee@sport.uni-karlsruhe.de We are looking forward to hear from you ! Regards, Thomas Griesbaum From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 23 18:54:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id SAA26044 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:52:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26035 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:52:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15705 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:52:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10lcQY-0001AZ-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:52:47 +0000 Message-ID: <2QogKQAx9DS3Ewi+@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:48:33 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Vanessa White Reply-To: Vanessa White Subject: Womens Practice Reminder MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On: Monday 24th May At: Regents Park (south east part of the Zoo). Where First Touch usually practice. Time: 18.30 ish Should you have any further question please get in touch. 0171 616 4819 (wk) 0181 663 4856 (hm) -- Vanessa White Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903422 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 23 22:29:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) id WAA16459 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16445 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24970 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 10lfn7-0003EN-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:17 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10lfn6-0002De-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:16 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Masters team for worlds Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:28:16 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc, The "Overflow" Masters team played well at the Shrewsbury tournament and is on course to play at the worlds in St Andrews Aug 7-14. However, we will be unable to go unless we add *two* *more* *players* to our squad. This is a final urgent call for anyone over 30 who would like to go to the worlds to get in touch with us. Please email me, or contact Phil Cooper: (Phone 0121 353 6399) 199 Blackberry Lane, Four Oaks, Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands, B744JJ, before this Friday, 28 May. David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 13:13:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16047 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:11:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16034 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:11:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.48]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20639 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:11:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.01 #3) id 10ltZK-0001bm-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:10:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:13:52 +0100 Subject: Coach to Edinburgh From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, As of today I still have about 9 places left on our hired coach to Edinburgh. We are planning to leave Cambridge about 1.30 pm on Friday afternoon on June 4. The cost will be 35 pounds per place. Getting to Cambridge from London is very easy (by train or bus) and we can put people up in Cambridge on Sunday night, if required. Please email me soon if you are interested. Dora Kemp Strange Blue Whatever does good should be held in honour, and the only shame is in doing harm - Plato McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 14:49:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13236 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:47:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13216 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:47:55 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from mars.open.ac.uk (mars.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.58]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17941 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:47:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by mars with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:47:04 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF35@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour Regulations Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:46:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Guys Are these available on the net? I have lots of small, totally uninteresting questions I would like to check out but have lost my hard copy. Cheers Mark Whiplash From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 14:58:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16870 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:57:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16862 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:57:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08308 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:57:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:53:53 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 14:57:25 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED402@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Tour Regulations Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:57:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The new tour website is being established at the address below, and set up by Wayne Retter. However it is not online yet (as of my quick test 10 secs ago. But knowing how efficient wayne is you shouldn't have to wait to long - but the more everyone hassles him about it the longer it will take as he will be too busy speaking to you rather than getting on with it. I'm sure he will let you know when it is up and running http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk[SMTP:M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk] > Sent: 24 May 1999 14:46 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Tour Regulations > > Hi Guys > > Are these available on the net? I have lots of small, totally > uninteresting > questions I would like to check out but have lost my hard copy. > > Cheers > > > > Mark > Whiplash > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 16:31:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16465 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16452 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:54 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora.wat ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01965 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 000592DE; Mon, 24 May 99 16:27:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:27:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000592DE.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re[2]: Tour Regulations To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk until the new website is set up, the current Tour website is at: http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/ultim8/ and follow the links through 1999 and Rules... Wayne PS: The Tour II Ranking Points, and Total Ranking are now on said site... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Tour Regulations Author: "HUGHES; Chris" at ~Internet Date: 24/05/1999 14:57 The new tour website is being established at the address below, and set up by Wayne Retter. However it is not online yet (as of my quick test 10 secs ago. But knowing how efficient wayne is you shouldn't have to wait to long - but the more everyone hassles him about it the longer it will take as he will be too busy speaking to you rather than getting on with it. I'm sure he will let you know when it is up and running http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk[SMTP:M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk] > Sent: 24 May 1999 14:46 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Tour Regulations > > Hi Guys > > Are these available on the net? I have lots of small, totally > uninteresting > questions I would like to check out but have lost my hard copy. > > Cheers > > > > Mark > Whiplash > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 16:31:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16429 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16417 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24139 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 10lwfV-0007Fn-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:33 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:24:09 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Any word on Southampton? Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:29:08 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bea5fa$2a33afb0$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk How much money? Who to send cheques to? Peter Pookas - Dublin Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 16:42:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19315 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:40:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19309 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:40:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.71.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02893 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:40:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (stork [152.78.71.1]) by rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12173; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:40:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from tarrant.ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:wp296@tarrant [152.78.71.20]) by stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA23895; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:40:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:40:39 +0100 (GMT) From: Will Parker To: Peter Bennison cc: nap197@soton.ac.uk, britdisc , Iain Roberts , Iain Roberts Subject: Re: Any word on Southampton? In-Reply-To: <001001bea5fa$2a33afb0$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We'll be sorting everything out next week (price, etc) as soon as our exams are over. until then, use Iain (imr196@soton.ac.uk or iain2@ministryofsound.net) as an email contact. Will On Mon, 24 May 1999, Peter Bennison wrote: > How much money? Who to send cheques to? > > Peter > Pookas - Dublin Ultimate > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 17:04:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24837 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:02:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24819 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:02:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05268 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:02:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id RAA27316 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:02:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:02:32 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199905241602.RAA27316@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 20:23:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28854 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:22:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28846 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:22:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17306 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:22:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10lzrA-0007Ot-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:53:48 +0100 Received: from modem-67.name69.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.194.67] helo=default) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10m07L-0001tV-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:10:32 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bea619$15991620$43c2883e@default> From: "Wayne Retter" To: "BritDisc" Cc: "U8C Mailing List" Subject: Tour II Ranking Points Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:09:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA621.5AD20F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA621.5AD20F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Position Team Name Points=20 1 U.T.I. 250=20 2 Chevron Action Flash 230=20 3 Catch 22 222=20 4 Fluid Druids 210=20 5 Dough Boy 205=20 6 Blue Arse Flies 190=20 7 Red 181=20 8 Headrush 170=20 9 First Touch 162=20 10 S.O.U.P. 150=20 11 Nightfever 141=20 12 Strange Blue 130=20 13 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 125=20 14 Pookas 110=20 15 Phat 'Eds 101=20 16 Bliss (W) 90=20 17 Sharks 81=20 18 Smudge 75=20 19 Wyld Stallyns 70=20 20 Mild Mannered Janitors (C) 65=20 21 Whiplash 60=20 22 Gael Force (C) 55=20 23 Blue Arse Flies Too (C) 50=20 24 Jedi 45=20 25 Skunks 40=20 26 Twin Peaks (W) 35=20 27 Slipdisc 30=20 28 Red II 25=20 29 Albatross 20=20 30 Superfly 15=20 31 Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) 10=20 32 Phat Fingers 5=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA621.5AD20F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Position Team Name Points
1 U.T.I. 250
2 Chevron Action Flash 230
3 Catch 22 222
4 Fluid Druids 210
5 Dough Boy 205
6 Blue Arse Flies 190
7 Red 181
8 Headrush 170
9 First Touch 162
10 S.O.U.P. 150
11 Nightfever 141
12 Strange Blue 130
13 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 125
14 Pookas 110
15 Phat 'Eds 101
16 Bliss (W) 90
17 Sharks 81
18 Smudge 75
19 Wyld Stallyns 70
20 Mild Mannered Janitors = (C) 65
21 Whiplash 60
22 Gael Force (C) 55
23 Blue Arse Flies Too = (C) 50
24 Jedi 45
25 Skunks 40
26 Twin Peaks (W) 35
27 Slipdisc 30
28 Red II 25
29 Albatross 20
30 Superfly 15
31 Bruce Lee Dragons (nee=20 K-Niggets) 10
32 Phat Fingers 5
 
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEA621.5AD20F00-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 20:26:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29351 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:25:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29337 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:25:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17675 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:25:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10lzr6-00025Q-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:53:44 +0100 Received: from modem-67.name69.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.194.67] helo=default) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10m07Q-0001tV-00; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:10:37 +0100 Message-ID: <002001bea619$18bec020$43c2883e@default> From: "Wayne Retter" To: "BritDisc" Cc: "U8C Mailing List" Subject: Tour Ranking after Tour II Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:09:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BEA621.613D6E20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BEA621.613D6E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alphabetical Ranking: =20 Note:=20 =20 Team Name Tour 1 Tour 2 Tour 3 Tour 4 Tour 5 Total Rank=20 Albatross 29 20 49 27=20 Bliss (W) 63 90 153 18=20 Blue Arse Flies 205 190 395 5=20 Blue Arse Flies Too (C) 57 50 107 24=20 Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) 23 10 33 29=20 Catch 22 250 222 472 1=20 Chevron Action Flash 230 230 460 3=20 Dough Boy 210 205 415 4=20 Fingers 6 11 - 11 32=20 First Touch 150 162 312 10=20 Fluid Druids 181 210 391 6=20 Gael Force (C) 40 55 95 25=20 Headrush 170 170 340 8=20 Hurricane 6 - 6 33=20 Jedi 69 45 114 22=20 Mild Mannered Janitors (C) 51 65 116 21=20 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 90 125 215 13=20 Nightfever 141 141 282 11=20 Phat 'Eds 34 101 135 19=20 Phat Fingers - 5 5 34=20 Picnic 0 - 0 35=20 Pookas - 110 110 23=20 Red 162 181 343 7=20 Red II - 25 25 30=20 S.O.U.P. 190 150 340 8=20 Sharks 81 81 162 17=20 Skunks 130 40 170 16=20 Slipdisc 17 30 47 28=20 Smudge 101 75 176 15=20 Strange Blue 110 130 240 12=20 Superfly - 15 15 31=20 Twin Peaks (W) 46 35 81 26=20 U.T.I. 222 250 472 1=20 Whiplash 74 60 134 20=20 Wyld Stallyns 125 70 195 14=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BEA621.613D6E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alphabetical Ranking:
 
Note:
 
Team = Name Tour 1 Tour 2 Tour 3 Tour 4 Tour 5 Total Rank
Albatross 29 20       49 27
Bliss=20 (W) 63 90       153 18
Blue Arse=20 Flies 205 190       395 5
Blue Arse=20 Flies Too (C) 57 50       107 24
Bruce Lee=20 Dragons (nee K-Niggets) 23 10       33 29
Catch=20 22 250 222       472 1
Chevron=20 Action Flash 230 230       460 3
Dough=20 Boy 210 205       415 4
Fingers=20 6 11 -       11 32
First=20 Touch 150 162       312 10
Fluid=20 Druids 181 210       391 6
Gael Force=20 (C) 40 55       95 25
Headrush 170 170       340 8
Hurricane 6 -       6 33
Jedi 69 45       114 22
Mild=20 Mannered Janitors (C) 51 65       116 21
Mohawk Mwnci=20 Magic 90 125       215 13
Nightfever 141 141       282 11
Phat=20 'Eds 34 101       135 19
Phat=20 Fingers - 5       5 34
Picnic 0 -       0 35
Pookas - 110       110 23
Red 162 181       343 7
Red=20 II - 25       25 30
S.O.U.P. 190 150       340 8
Sharks 81 81       162 17
Skunks 130 40       170 16
Slipdisc 17 30       47 28
Smudge 101 75       176 15
Strange=20 Blue 110 130       240 12
Superfly - 15       15 31
Twin Peaks=20 (W) 46 35       81 26
U.T.I. 222 250       472 1
Whiplash 74 60       134 20
Wyld=20 Stallyns 125 70       195 14
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BEA621.613D6E20-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 24 23:30:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22538 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:29:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22533 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:29:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28615 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:29:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-054.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.54]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA27119 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:19:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <019c01bea635$07b480a0$36a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: New player in Surrey area seeks team....... Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:30:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Kynaston 3720 To: bravil Date: 14 May 1999 08:26 Subject: Interested in Ultimate >Dear Ben > > I am interested in finding out more about Ultimate. > > A friend obtained your email address for me but unfortunately I dont have > full internet access. Would it be possible to send me some basic information > on the rules and the name of local group ? > > Since I live in Banstead Surrey would it be better for me to contact your > National Direction Laura Pearce ? as she just lives down the road in Sutton. > > If joining a local group/team is not convienient do you supply any form of > 'starters packs' so that I set up my own team where I work at BAe in New > Malden, Surrey ? > > Many thanks > >Duncan > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 12:50:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01364 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:48:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01347 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17044 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:47:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10mFgZ-0004w5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:47:55 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 25 May 99 12:47:56 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.43); 25 May 99 12:47:44 +0100 From: "pete" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:47:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: More plublicity X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <4F6FD610855@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA01350 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young people. Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a whole heap of acid and play frisbee". Now there's an idea for a rule change! Pete (Phat'eds) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 16:28:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23595 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:27:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23577 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:27:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA15623 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:27:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990525153136.29575.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.209.6.43] by web122.yahoomail.com; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:31:36 PDT Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:31:36 -0700 (PDT) From: The Milkybar Kid Subject: new call idea To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk " what we love to do is take a whole heap of acid and play frisbee" Forget the rules change, this is gonna be our next call. Bryce === The Milkybar Kid of Far Flung, Glasgow. (Also the captain) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 16:36:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25961 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:36:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from primrose (mavea@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25948 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:36:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:36:27 +0100 (BST) From: Miss S Kirwan To: Britdisc Subject: Ultimate video Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have / know where to get hold of a video of Ultimate that could be used at our Freshers Fayre? It's still a long way off (5th October) but I thought I'd start making enquiries now. Cheers, Sarah (Bears) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 16:57:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01423 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01414 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:50 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora.wat ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29612 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:56:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0005A784; Tue, 25 May 99 16:54:28 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:54:12 +0100 Message-ID: <0005A784.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Ultimate video To: Britdisc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There was a Channel 4 documentary, presented by Gary Imlach (popular C4 American Football host at the time), filmed in Colchester (WUGC'94) and other places (Adam "Fatboy Druid" Batchelor's lovenest!)... I have a copy that's now getting a bit rough (but you could borrow)... I've had a few Americans request copies too (format irrelevant!) Do the BUF have a stock of spares anywhere? or do they have a contact at C4 that I could obtain copies from. (Any chance, in these days of technology, that it could be put on a website somewhere in sensible (probably streaming?) format(s) ? Wayne ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Ultimate video Author: Miss S Kirwan at ~Internet Date: 25/05/1999 16:36 Does anyone have / know where to get hold of a video of Ultimate that could be used at our Freshers Fayre? It's still a long way off (5th October) but I thought I'd start making enquiries now. Cheers, Sarah (Bears) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 17:16:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05738 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:15:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05710 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:15:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate.ocean.co.uk (mailgate.infogrames.co.uk [195.44.46.84]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01235 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:15:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1288 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 16:14:42 -0000 Received: from exchange-server.infogrames.local (10.10.10.214) by mailgate.infogrames.local with SMTP; 25 May 1999 16:14:42 -0000 Received: by exchange-server.infogrames.local with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:14:42 +0100 Message-ID: <7095C730A1D4D21181A400805F6F48CA216A3B@exchange-server.infogrames.local> From: Kevin Lowe To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Channel 4 video Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:14:40 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I ran off 20 copies for the BUF a few months back. Jon Hope is the person to contact about them. If anyone has any of my videos, then please can they send them back. I've lent out over 10 videos, mainly for promoting junior Ultimate, and I currently have no copies left. While I'm here, can I point out that my email address is changing very soon (Infogrames and Jest have decided to part company, so we are setting up our own company next week). This email address will stay active for a while, but Kev@cheerful.com is going to be more reliable. Thanks, Kevin. |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Kevin.Lowe@infogrames.co.uk Tel: +44(0)161-827-8150 | | I hope I die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather | Not screaming and shouting like his passengers. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 23:17:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA28811 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:16:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28805 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:15:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18356 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:15:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-012.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.12]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA20806 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:06:20 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01a401bea6fc$58985420$18a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Another Lonely Londoner seeks team.... Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:36:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan C-Jones To: BUF Date: 14 May 1999 19:35 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Jonathan C-Jones >Address1: 18 Ford Sq >Address2: Whitechapel >Post Code: e2 >Telephone: 0171 423 9580 >Fax: >Message: i am interested in starting to play after a number of years away from the game and wondered who you could recommend to contact in the central london/east london area ? > >thank you for your time > >jon > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 25 23:18:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA28864 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:16:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28856 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:16:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18390 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:16:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-012.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.12]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA20833 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:06:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01a901bea6fc$6f4f7400$18a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: Subject: Drug Influenced Frisbee Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:13:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Need to be careful with this Frisbee + Drugs = Cool equation regardless of peoples own individual opinions on drugs. With team names such as 'Headrush', 'Under the Influence' and of course 'Substance Abuse' we're on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if you ask me! Not forgetting the growing number of schools playing the sport (some of whom will be reading all this). What do other people think about this? Seems draconian, but should the BUF be censoring team names for marketability in the future? Ben (expressing his *own* opinions) -----Original Message----- From: pete To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 25 May 1999 12:55 Subject: More plublicity Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young people. Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a whole heap of acid and play frisbee". Now there's an idea for a rule change! Pete (Phat'eds) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 08:21:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16305 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:20:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16300 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:20:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA06409 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:20:36 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA14262 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Wed, 26 May 1999 08:14:00 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Wed, 26 May 1999 08:14:00 +0100 From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: 4 Berth Caravan At Worlds Going Spare Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:18:40 +0100 Message-Id: <01bea747$fb161e80$0814010a@4000000e5059> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Following a number of Blue Arse Flies guests dropping out we now have a 4 berth self-catering caravan at Craigtoun Meadows going spare for the week of Worlds. The caravan site is supposed to be 15 minutes walk from the pitches and contains a shop, launderette and more importantly for one week only the internationally renowned "Guys' Bar". The caravan is available from the morning of Saturday 7th August until the morning of Saturday 14th August and will set you back 355 GBP (plus a 50 GBP returnable deposit). Give me a shout if you want any more information. If I don't hear anything by early next week I'll be cancelling the caravan - so don't delay. Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 10:14:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04667 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:13:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04658 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:13:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from web604.mail.yahoo.com (web604.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.168]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22659 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:13:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990526091428.12487.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.222.1.206] by web604.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:14:28 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Hallett Subject: Re: "Ben Ravilious": Drug Influenced Frisbee To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, >Ben wrote: >>> With team names such as 'Headrush', [snip] we're >>>on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if you >>> ask me! Ben has obviously taken too many drugs and never watched our games if he thinks the name HeadRush is a drug reference. You don't have to go any further than my, nobby's, and (historically) Sasha's pass selection (especially wrt hammers) to see where the name came from. Of course in some countries to say that you are 'Red' implies unnatural contact with one's mother..... ;) Pete Hallett HeadRush (and in no way Red) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 10:34:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09052 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:34:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09022 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:34:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (root@caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24281 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:34:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15998; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:33:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA09872; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:33:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:33:52 +0100 (BST) From: Big Funky X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: Peter Hallett cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: "Ben Ravilious": Drug Influenced Frisbee In-Reply-To: <19990526091428.12487.rocketmail@web604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lets not get too silly about this. Should Arsenal football club change their name because it can be pronounced as 'Arse and all' and the innumerable connotations that has? If a team has a name it is for a reason - usually because it reflects the players or they find it amusing - and if people want to take things the wrong way then that reflects their mentality. This should not govern what teams can call themselves. I don't think that 12 year old kids will suddenly shoot their grans in order to steal cash and score some 'horse' because a group of guys who throw a piece of plastic around decide to call themselves headrush, UTI, or substance abuse. Oh, and 'flying sorcerers' has not connection with cocaine, acid, glue, petrol, aerosal deoderants, or toilet duck. yours pedantically Jon Good aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian' and 'More than just a Hint' aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of 'Blue Arse Flies' D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. Vice-Captain S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers J'ai mange de la vache enragee, tout les temps! BIG LOVE "My nightmare is over, I woke up in Dover." From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 12:47:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08685 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:45:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08671 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:45:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10555 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:45:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from digley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.248]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10mc86-00022S-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:45:50 +0100 Received: from DIGLEY/SpoolDir by digley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 26 May 99 12:45:51 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by DIGLEY (Mercury 1.43); 26 May 99 12:45:41 +0100 From: "K.A.Guard" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:45:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Frisbee X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <4FBB9093078@digley.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA08674 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I personally agree with Ben and think that we should force Mark Jefferson et al. to drop the name "Whiplash" in case impressionable players are influenced to experiment with S&M, bondage and rubber gimp-suits. Karl, Phat 'eds > From: "Ben Ravilious" > To: > Subject: Drug Influenced Frisbee > Date sent: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:13:24 +0100 > Need to be careful with this Frisbee + Drugs = Cool equation regardless of > peoples own individual opinions on drugs. > > With team names such as 'Headrush', 'Under the Influence' and of course > 'Substance Abuse' we're on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if you > ask me! Not forgetting the growing number of schools playing the sport (some > of whom will be reading all this). > > What do other people think about this? > > Seems draconian, but should the BUF be censoring team names for > marketability in the future? > > Ben > (expressing his *own* opinions) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pete > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Date: 25 May 1999 12:55 > Subject: More plublicity > > > > Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a > very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young > people. > Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky > American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his > favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a > whole heap of acid and play frisbee". > Now there's an idea for a rule change! > > Pete (Phat'eds) > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 12:58:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11867 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:56:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11859 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:56:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06632 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:56:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from ojc21 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 10mcIi-0003o1-00; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:56:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:56:48 +0100 (BST) From: "O.J. Cottray" X-Sender: ojc21@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: "K.A.Guard" cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Frisbee In-Reply-To: <4FBB9093078@digley.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk go Strange Glue! olivier (strange blue) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 13:00:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12765 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:59:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12737 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:59:35 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13201 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:59:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:59:22 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF4B@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Frisbee Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:59:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA12756 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Karl makes a very good point, everyone. We should also ditch the name "Phat 'Eds" in case people misinterpret this as validation for personal abuse. I, for one, frequently call Karl phat. Mark Whiplash (it's a medical term not a sexual depravity) > -----Original Message----- > From: K.A.Guard [SMTP:EGA97KAG@sheffield.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 May 1999 12:46 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Frisbee > > I personally agree with Ben and think that we should force Mark > Jefferson et al. to drop the name "Whiplash" in case impressionable > players are influenced to experiment with S&M, bondage and rubber > gimp-suits. > > Karl, Phat 'eds > > > > From: "Ben Ravilious" > > To: > > Subject: Drug Influenced Frisbee > > Date sent: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:13:24 +0100 > > > Need to be careful with this Frisbee + Drugs = Cool equation regardless > of > > peoples own individual opinions on drugs. > > > > With team names such as 'Headrush', 'Under the Influence' and of course > > 'Substance Abuse' we're on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if > you > > ask me! Not forgetting the growing number of schools playing the sport > (some > > of whom will be reading all this). > > > > What do other people think about this? > > > > Seems draconian, but should the BUF be censoring team names for > > marketability in the future? > > > > Ben > > (expressing his *own* opinions) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pete > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Date: 25 May 1999 12:55 > > Subject: More plublicity > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a > > very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young > > people. > > Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky > > American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his > > favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a > > whole heap of acid and play frisbee". > > Now there's an idea for a rule change! > > > > Pete (Phat'eds) > > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 14:55:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11781 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11754 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from cav.logica.co.uk (cav.logica.co.uk [158.234.10.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15931 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from berry.logica.co.uk (berry.logica.co.uk [158.234.10.42]) by cav.logica.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA31085 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:36 +0100 Received: by berry.logica.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:35 +0100 Message-ID: <4FBF540FF16FD1119D9600A0C94B2B5103428EE3@napier.logica.co.uk> From: "Fane, Suzanne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Frisbee Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:54:31 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since Ben asked for opinions... If people want Ultimate to be taken seriously enough to get sponsorship then they shouldn't have drug related names. And even if those teams aren't looking for sponsorship, they are likely to prevent other teams with reasonable names from getting sponsored. Getting Ultimate to be taken seriously should be one of our top priorities, especially as the sport grows and gets more widely known. If it takes BUF censorship to do that, then fair enough. Suzy Fane Gael Force Co-ed team - (looking for sponsorship for WUCC) > ---------- > From: Ben Ravilious[SMTP:bravil@webleicester.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:13 PM > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Drug Influenced Frisbee > > Need to be careful with this Frisbee + Drugs = Cool equation regardless of > peoples own individual opinions on drugs. > > With team names such as 'Headrush', 'Under the Influence' and of course > 'Substance Abuse' we're on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if you > ask me! Not forgetting the growing number of schools playing the sport > (some > of whom will be reading all this). > > What do other people think about this? > > Seems draconian, but should the BUF be censoring team names for > marketability in the future? > > Ben > (expressing his *own* opinions) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pete > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Date: 25 May 1999 12:55 > Subject: More plublicity > > > > Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a > very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young > people. > Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky > American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his > favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a > whole heap of acid and play frisbee". > Now there's an idea for a rule change! > > Pete (Phat'eds) > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:11:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16104 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16098 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:19 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17012 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:12 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:11 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF4D@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: re: Drug Influenced Ultimate Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:09:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Briefly, it's a little short-sighted to think that team names stand in the way of Ultimate sponsorship. IMHO it's more likely to be something to do with the actice player base of 2000 (and that's only the "official" figure) the state of public ignorance, media dissinterest (or at best, ambivalnce). Marketable Ultimate is a long way off and yes, making a token sacrifice of individual teams names is draconian. Where do you stop? Anybody dislike Red's communist allusions? And besides, if you want to address "drugs" in sport, teams names are the least of your worries. Open up that particular can of worms at your perril. Mark Hyperextension-Hyperflexion Injury From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:13:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17090 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:13:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17070 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:13:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (root@caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17274 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:13:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21115; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA07184; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:53 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:52 +0100 (BST) From: Big Funky X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: "Fane, Suzanne" cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Frisbee In-Reply-To: <4FBF540FF16FD1119D9600A0C94B2B5103428EE3@napier.logica.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA17073 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jon Good aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian' and 'More than just a Hint' aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of 'Blue Arse Flies' D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. Vice-Captain S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers J'ai mange de la vache enragee, tout les temps! BIG LOVE "My nightmare is over, I woke up in Dover." On Wed, 26 May 1999, Fane, Suzanne wrote: > > > > Getting Ultimate to be taken seriously should be one of our top priorities, > especially as the sport grows and gets more widely known. If it takes BUF > censorship to do that, then fair enough. > Sorry if this sounds a little pretentious but the reason I started and continue to play ultimate rather than other sports is because of the attitude of (most of) the players and the general ethos of the sport. I like the idea that there are no referees, you don't have to be the best and the emphasis is on having fun. Team names are all part of this (although admittedly a very small one). I think that as the sport gets more popular there will be more and more pressure to change its nature to fit in with that of other sports and be more socially acceptable. I like the sport as it is: DIFFERENT, and I don't see why we should have to change names of teams. I understand it will limit the range of potential sponsors but I think this is more a reflection on the publicity the sport gets rather than names of teams. Sunday league football teams in St. Andrews have no shortage of sponsors even with team names like "Shafters", "Inter Ya'Ma" and "The BJ Boys". Sorry for sounding like a fundamentalist! > lots of love Jon G > > ---------- > > From: Ben Ravilious[SMTP:bravil@webleicester.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:13 PM > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: Drug Influenced Frisbee > > > > Need to be careful with this Frisbee + Drugs = Cool equation regardless of > > peoples own individual opinions on drugs. > > > > With team names such as 'Headrush', 'Under the Influence' and of course > > 'Substance Abuse' we're on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if you > > ask me! Not forgetting the growing number of schools playing the sport > > (some > > of whom will be reading all this). > > > > What do other people think about this? > > > > Seems draconian, but should the BUF be censoring team names for > > marketability in the future? > > > > Ben > > (expressing his *own* opinions) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pete > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Date: 25 May 1999 12:55 > > Subject: More plublicity > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a > > very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young > > people. > > Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky > > American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his > > favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a > > whole heap of acid and play frisbee". > > Now there's an idea for a rule change! > > > > Pete (Phat'eds) > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:17:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18430 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18413 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail9.svr.pol.co.uk (mail9.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.22]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17606 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-110.name43.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.181.110] helo=alscomputer) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10meU2-0007nt-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:16:38 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01bea781$ec67d4c0$c75efea9@alscomputer> From: "Alan Harding" To: "BritDisc" References: <01a901bea6fc$6f4f7400$18a492c3@pii266> Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Frisbee Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:13:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I play for a team ' I'll have a E please Bob ' or is it 'D'? Al. --------------- I'll have something please Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Ravilious To: Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:13 PM Subject: Drug Influenced Frisbee Need to be careful with this Frisbee + Drugs = Cool equation regardless of peoples own individual opinions on drugs. With team names such as 'Headrush', 'Under the Influence' and of course 'Substance Abuse' we're on a one-way ticket to media bad-news land if you ask me! Not forgetting the growing number of schools playing the sport (some of whom will be reading all this). What do other people think about this? Seems draconian, but should the BUF be censoring team names for marketability in the future? Ben (expressing his *own* opinions) -----Original Message----- From: pete To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 25 May 1999 12:55 Subject: More plublicity Has anyone seen the June addition of select magazine (retailing for a very reasonable £2.40) - a popular musical publication amongst young people. Amongst other things it carries an interview with Huey from quirky American rock band, Fun Lovin' Criminals. When asked about his favorite festival pastime he commented " what we love to do is take a whole heap of acid and play frisbee". Now there's an idea for a rule change! Pete (Phat'eds) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:29:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22544 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:27:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22535 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:27:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18504 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:27:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10meeZ-000I3t-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:27:32 +0000 Subject: Clapham Common pickup Thursday Date: Wed, 26 May 99 15:28:33 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Just a reminder that the pickup games are happening at Clapham Common on Thurday evenings. We were there last week. You're not trying to tell me a little rain put you off? :-) Map and other info at http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/lus/ See you there Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:32:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23413 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23363 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07138 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:30:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:26:03 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:38 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED41B@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Expanding the issue here to cover a larger are still raises the point - as Ultimate players something is going to be sacrificed to promote the game further for public awareness. This may be drug references (and use) to promote a squeaky clean image (just like rugby!). We may have to change the game, ie referees; local leagues instead of tournaments. Separate divisions at events. The ethos and social aspect of the game may change as sponsorship forces players to change their behavior on and off pitch, the player base means that you won't be playing and seeing your friends from other teams. Players may be forced to play for their closest teams etc. The possible outcomes from pushing the promotion of the sport may have big beneficial changes to the sport and individuals - but some aspects will also suffer; how much are people prepared to give up. Or are you happy in the knowledge that every one new who you speak to thinks the only reason you were able to represent your country is because you are the only one who plays that silly little sport, and you just weren't good enough to compete at rugby/football/hockey/netball* (*insert sport of their choice here) Chris Hughes (my opinions only) (not DoC) > ---------- > From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk[SMTP:M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 May 1999 15:09 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: re: Drug Influenced Ultimate > > Briefly, it's a little short-sighted to think that team names stand in the > way of Ultimate sponsorship. IMHO it's more likely to be something to do > with the actice player base of 2000 (and that's only the "official" > figure) > the state of public ignorance, media dissinterest (or at best, > ambivalnce). > Marketable Ultimate is a long way off and yes, making a token sacrifice of > individual teams names is draconian. Where do you stop? Anybody dislike > Red's communist allusions? And besides, if you want to address "drugs" in > sport, teams names are the least of your worries. Open up that particular > can of worms at your perril. > > Mark > Hyperextension-Hyperflexion Injury > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 15:51:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28992 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:49:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28977 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:49:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk (euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.48.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10451 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:49:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from tigger.pegasus.cranfield.ac.uk ([138.250.1.193]) by euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mezz-0004iY-00; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:49:39 +0100 From: jerome hardouin Reply-To: J.R.Hardouin.1998@cranfield.ac.uk To: Big Funky cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Re: RE: Drug Influenced Frisbee In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:49:37 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for OSF/1 Motif Version 4.1 Build (3) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In my opinion, Ultimate musn't became a big popular game because that way it would completly loose its fun. I mean we have come to this sport partly because of the social and the underground part. I personnaly don't want to be involved in a really strict ultimate where every single funky behaviour is banned. I'm happy with making some publicity for the sport but it has to stay a little sport without big ambitions (except to giev fun to the pleople who play that game). I will look like a conservative but I think that we'd better keep the current organization that I find really good. Thanks for listening to my opinion (it worth what it worth (not much I guess)). Jerome Hardouin An alien form alien nation and a wild stallyns. ---------------------- jerome hardouin Cranfield University J.R.Hardouin.1998@cranfield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 16:04:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02789 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02777 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12829 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.23.8] (helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mfDG-0003mH-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:03:22 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:39:48 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: taking ultimate seriously Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:39:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you want ultimate to be taken seriously here is my number 1 idea that will really help. ************************************************************** Get rid of this Spirit-business and start to use referees ************************************************************** Back to work... Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 16:04:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02701 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02694 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA21284 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:17 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA00346 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Wed, 26 May 1999 15:56:41 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Wed, 26 May 1999 15:56:41 +0100 From: "James Hewitson" To: "HUGHES, Chris" , Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Ultimate Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:01:21 +0100 Message-Id: <01bea788$9d8a4cf0$0814010a@4000000e5059> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The implication from Hughes comments is that the only way to get Ultimate recognized is to become more like every other mainstream sport (exactly the opposite reason that the vast majority of people begin playing). When I meet new people and tell them what I do with my weekends they do often think I'm slightly insane but when I explain to them properly about what the game involves and how much commitment the very serious players have they are 99 times out of 100 very interested in knowing more. As an Ultimate player I enjoy knowing that we're different from other sports-people - just because we don't get TV coverage or have some local business paying for our T-shirts doesn't cause me sleepless nights. I play Ultimate to enjoy myself, to meet up with my friends and to compete in a friendly and spirited atmosphere and I say lets keep it that way. Balti BAF 34 -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk ; 'M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk' Date: 26 May 1999 15:38 Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate >Expanding the issue here to cover a larger are still raises the point - as >Ultimate players something is going to be sacrificed to promote the game >further for public awareness. This may be drug references (and use) to >promote a squeaky clean image (just like rugby!). We may have to change the >game, ie referees; local leagues instead of tournaments. Separate divisions >at events. The ethos and social aspect of the game may change as sponsorship >forces players to change their behavior on and off pitch, the player base >means that you won't be playing and seeing your friends from other teams. >Players may be forced to play for their closest teams etc. The possible >outcomes from pushing the promotion of the sport may have big beneficial >changes to the sport and individuals - but some aspects will also suffer; >how much are people prepared to give up. Or are you happy in the knowledge >that every one new who you speak to thinks the only reason you were able to >represent your country is because you are the only one who plays that silly >little sport, and you just weren't good enough to compete at >rugby/football/hockey/netball* (*insert sport of their choice here) > >Chris Hughes >(my opinions only) >(not DoC) > > > >> ---------- >> From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk[SMTP:M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk] >> Sent: 26 May 1999 15:09 >> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >> Subject: re: Drug Influenced Ultimate >> >> Briefly, it's a little short-sighted to think that team names stand in the >> way of Ultimate sponsorship. IMHO it's more likely to be something to do >> with the actice player base of 2000 (and that's only the "official" >> figure) >> the state of public ignorance, media dissinterest (or at best, >> ambivalnce). >> Marketable Ultimate is a long way off and yes, making a token sacrifice of >> individual teams names is draconian. Where do you stop? Anybody dislike >> Red's communist allusions? And besides, if you want to address "drugs" in >> sport, teams names are the least of your worries. Open up that particular >> can of worms at your perril. >> >> Mark >> Hyperextension-Hyperflexion Injury >> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 16:08:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04215 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:08:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04202 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:08:29 +0100 (BST) From: souzae@towers.com Received: from towers.com (ns01.towers.com [208.207.110.34]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14006 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:08:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from email01.towers.com with id LAA173546 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:15:04 -0400 Received: by email06(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 8525677D.00532EE8 ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:08:34 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: TP To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <8525677D.00532B2F.00@email06> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:07:57 +0100 Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It may be a great trait to be willing to compromise, but going mainstream shouldn't be to the tune of all the sacrifices coming from the Ultimate community. Any talk of why its worth going mainstream should also include what kind of positive effect it could have on the already mainstream sports, i.e. more emphasis on an honor code among players for settling disputes, better spirit surrounding competition, more casual attitude about the whole thing...etc. Otherwise, ultimate becomes just another sport to capture the public eye. As it is, I think the public's attention span is only going to focus on 2-3 major sports at once. There's already saturation in that market, so to speak. If we're going to grab anyone's attention it's going to be specifically because we've got a different attitude and a different way of doing things. After all, grunge went mainstream in the early 90s and it showed us all how to come crashing down in misery from the sickening sweetness of 80s pop rock (only so that we could revive it in another 15-20 yrs). Sure, some will say that Nirvana cashed in at the expense of their punk roots, but we're all the wiser for their mainstream presence. :) Eric "HUGHES, Chris" on 26/05/99 15:29:33 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk'" cc: (bcc: Eric Souza/Towers Perrin) From: "HUGHES, Chris" Date: 26/05/99 14:29 Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate Expanding the issue here to cover a larger are still raises the point - as Ultimate players something is going to be sacrificed to promote the game further for public awareness. This may be drug references (and use) to promote a squeaky clean image (just like rugby!). We may have to change the game, ie referees; local leagues instead of tournaments. Separate divisions at events. The ethos and social aspect of the game may change as sponsorship forces players to change their behavior on and off pitch, the player base means that you won't be playing and seeing your friends from other teams. Players may be forced to play for their closest teams etc. The possible outcomes from pushing the promotion of the sport may have big beneficial changes to the sport and individuals - but some aspects will also suffer; how much are people prepared to give up. Or are you happy in the knowledge that every one new who you speak to thinks the only reason you were able to represent your country is because you are the only one who plays that silly little sport, and you just weren't good enough to compete at rugby/football/hockey/netball* (*insert sport of their choice here) Chris Hughes (my opinions only) (not DoC) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 16:15:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05801 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05772 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from drawbridge.ascend.com (drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15184 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from fw-ext.ascend.com (fw-ext [198.4.92.5]) by drawbridge.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA13185 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from russet.ascend.com by fw-ext.ascend.com via smtpd (for drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) with SMTP; 26 May 1999 15:13:42 UT Received: from wopr.eng.ascend.com (wopr.eng.ascend.com [206.65.212.178]) by russet.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA15071 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awilson-x86.eng.ascend.com (awilson-x86.eng.ascend.com [192.168.91.230]) by wopr.eng.ascend.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA23577 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:13:38 -0700 Received: from ascend.com (localhost.eng.ascend.com [127.0.0.1]) by awilson-x86.eng.ascend.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00212 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <374C0F9D.C605A01E@ascend.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:33 +0100 From: Andrew Wilson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Re: taking ultimate seriously References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree. However, if you want Ultimate to stay as Ultimate, and not become like all the other mainstream sports *********************************************************************** Get rid of this Be-Taken-Seriously business and leave it the way it is *********************************************************************** It's our call, people. Mig, Sneeekys Simon Hill wrote: > > If you want ultimate to be taken seriously here is my number 1 idea that > will really help. > > ************************************************************** > Get rid of this Spirit-business and start to use referees > ************************************************************** > > Back to work... > > Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 16:21:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07479 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:20:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07460 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:20:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate.ocean.co.uk (mailgate.infogrames.co.uk [195.44.46.84]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16481 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:20:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 29440 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 15:19:51 -0000 Received: from exchange-server.infogrames.local (10.10.10.214) by mailgate.infogrames.local with SMTP; 26 May 1999 15:19:51 -0000 Received: by exchange-server.infogrames.local with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:19:50 +0100 Message-ID: <7095C730A1D4D21181A400805F6F48CA21F291@exchange-server.infogrames.local> From: Kevin Lowe To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Drugs Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:19:49 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >After all, grunge went mainstream in the early 90s and it showed us all how to come crashing down in misery from the sickening sweetness of 80s pop rock (only so that we could revive it in another 15-20 yrs). Sure, some will say that Nirvana cashed in at the expense of their punk roots, but we're all the wiser for their mainstream presence. :) Isn't it about time we adopted random drugs tests for people who send emails to Britdisc? Kev. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 16:30:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09672 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:29:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09663 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:29:08 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17944 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:29:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Wed, 26 May 1999 16:28:41 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17443; Wed, 26 May 99 16:28:41 BST Message-Id: <9905261528.AA17443@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:28:39 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED41B@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Expanding the issue here to cover a larger are still raises the point - as > Ultimate players something is going to be sacrificed to promote the game > further for public awareness. This may be drug references (and use) to > promote a squeaky clean image (just like rugby!). We may have to change the > game, ie referees; local leagues instead of tournaments. Separate divisions > at events. The ethos and social aspect of the game may change as sponsorship > forces players to change their behavior on and off pitch, the player base > means that you won't be playing and seeing your friends from other teams. So, basically we sacrifice large portions of what makes the sport worthwhile in order to make the public aware of something which is no longer the thing we cared so much about, and were so desperate to let them know about. I'll opt to sacrifice the public awareness, thanks, Pete Connor > Players may be forced to play for their closest teams etc. The possible > outcomes from pushing the promotion of the sport may have big beneficial > changes to the sport and individuals - but some aspects will also suffer; > how much are people prepared to give up. Or are you happy in the knowledge > that every one new who you speak to thinks the only reason you were able to > represent your country is because you are the only one who plays that silly > little sport, and you just weren't good enough to compete at > rugby/football/hockey/netball* (*insert sport of their choice here) > > Chris Hughes > (my opinions only) > (not DoC) > > > > > ---------- > > From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk[SMTP:M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk] > > Sent: 26 May 1999 15:09 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: re: Drug Influenced Ultimate > > > > Briefly, it's a little short-sighted to think that team names stand in the > > way of Ultimate sponsorship. IMHO it's more likely to be something to do > > with the actice player base of 2000 (and that's only the "official" > > figure) > > the state of public ignorance, media dissinterest (or at best, > > ambivalnce). > > Marketable Ultimate is a long way off and yes, making a token sacrifice of > > individual teams names is draconian. Where do you stop? Anybody dislike > > Red's communist allusions? And besides, if you want to address "drugs" in > > sport, teams names are the least of your worries. Open up that particular > > can of worms at your perril. > > > > Mark > > Hyperextension-Hyperflexion Injury > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 17:10:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18728 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18722 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26258 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.195.0.131] (helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10mgFB-000DZN-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:09:25 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 10mgF7-0000Bs-00; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:24 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:59:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Clapham Common pickup Thursday Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:59:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Clapham Common pickup Bringing the game of Ultimate down to the level of MPs. Shouldn't the BUF police ban this sort of thing? Max From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 17:11:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19207 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:11:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19192 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:11:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26375 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:11:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from ojc21 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 10mgH4-0003tc-00; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:11:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:11:22 +0100 (BST) From: "O.J. Cottray" X-Sender: ojc21@red.csi.cam.ac.uk Reply-To: "O.J. Cottray" To: souzae@towers.com cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate In-Reply-To: <8525677D.00532B2F.00@email06> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i'd have to second peter, balti, jerome and the like- i play ultimate not because it's 'different' but because of its balance between spirit and competitveness -which requires active promotion of the spirit side to counteract our natural tendency for competition. that's why i like it. i appreciate the fact that players make a concerted effort towards that. i'd like to add ,if i may, that there isn't much point in being 'spirited' or whatever if we're going to keep it confined to the currently underground world of ultimate. alternative scenes have shot themselves in the foot over and over again and proven to be as hypocritical as any other by creating for themselves simply another elite of 'do-gooders'; by shunning the mainstream they simply become another isolated self-righteous group. so, no i don't think we should compromise the general spirit for the sake of publicity (because we don't need to do that). and no, i don't think we should isolate ourselves either as 'the only righteous sport there is'. i think our publicity should continue to focus on promoting the balance in ultimate. publicity has been on the up, and i dont' see why we should start doing away with some ultimate's fundamentals simply because we're impatient to get McDonalds t-shirts. i think what we need is more of the same thing actually. continue bringing why we joined to the forefront. who knows....one day, just maybe one day we'll see self-refereed football games in the FA... maybe Mike Tyson we'll apologise after every punch... starry-eyedly yours- olivier From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 19:35:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15108 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:34:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15099 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:34:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03617 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:34:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-035.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.35]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA09618 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:25:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <013901bea7a6$9d3d42c0$23a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Drug Debate - my point explained Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:23:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A debate on Britdisc - Wow! I think my point - which has been somewhat missed in this debate - is what a tabloid newspapers will make of our sport. Its almost certain that the Worlds will attract national press coverage given the amount of effort Jon Hope &co have been putting in. It would only take one sneering News of the World article to waste it all (unless you liked the Time Out article and believe any publicity is good publicity) I recently did an interview for a magazine in Leicester and the moment they saw a list of ultimate team names they jumped on the drug culture references. When it is published, I want to use the article to approach potential sponsors - if it suggests in any way that we're not entirely above board then you can forget it and you can forget getting any schools in the area to start playing too - my fingers are crossed. Personally I don't give a fig what names teams have - I love the weird and wacky names traditional in our sport and I'm not serious about censoring anything. I also *personally* don't care what people get up to in the privacy of their own homes - I am not a big Jack Straw fan either! All I am suggesting is that it would not be too much to ask newly forming teams just to be a bit careful about what names they choose. Being sensible about this does not have to involve the infringement of civil liberties or any huge compromise with the culture of our sport. You are quite within your rights to name your team 'Paedophile Ring' if you want, but you wouldn't do it because it would get bad press. Likewise, I am suggesting that overt references to drug culture might also not be in the sport's best interest. My reply to the 'keep it cosy' traditionalists out there is next time you run a freshers fair and someone joins having seen "that Channel 4 documentary" or "this website" perhaps you should reflect on how you first heard about the sport and how lucky you are to have found it. That is what good publicity can do for you. Fair enough? Ben (my own opinions throughout) PS: Red Leicester is not only a cheese but also a powerful hallucinogen which causes the abuser to see players, discs, endzones, etc which are not actually there! Particularly popular in the Bristol area - Pete? ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 26 23:11:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10989 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:11:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10984 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:11:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10625 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:11:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 14607 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 22:10:48 -0000 Received: from userp021.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.91.20) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 26 May 1999 22:10:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bea7b4$9beff9e0$145b95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Ultimate Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:15:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree. When I started playing ultimate about a year or two ago I found the first few months very difficult. The sport was so underground I had to dig 6 feet down to find anything. I found a lot of people in the Ultimate community who where happy just to play in a 28 team tournament once a month and nothing more. Thanks to a few "promoting" players I managed to finally get into the sport, what it was about and be able to talk to people for help. What I'm trying to say, like Olivier said, is that Ultimate could become a little isolated group, never growing to above 2000 players and never really being considered a proper sport. Some people may be happy with this, many of you have said so, but why? The only strong argument I have heard so far is that people don't want Ultimate to become like other mainstream sports. I believe that Ultimate could grow to that sort of level but still stay unique, with players making foul calls and the like. In fact the Callahan (spelling?) rules that are constantly discussed in the US are designed for such an occasion, players still make foul calls and if it is not resolved quickly or fairly the observer makes the call instead. I'm begining to ramble on so I'll draw what I'm saying to a close. From the comments I've read it seems that there is a great divide in British Ultimate over trying to the develope the sport to a greater level. Perhaps this needs to be addressed by the BUF, so that they have some idea of how its members would like things to be developed. Thanks for reading this far down if you have, Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com -----Original Message----- From: O.J. Cottray To: souzae@towers.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 26 May 1999 17:11 Subject: RE: Drug Influenced Ultimate >i'd have to second peter, balti, jerome and the like- >i play ultimate not because it's 'different' but because of its balance >between spirit and competitveness -which requires active promotion of the >spirit side to counteract our natural tendency for competition. that's why >i like it. i appreciate the fact that players make a concerted effort >towards that. >i'd like to add ,if i may, that there isn't much point in being 'spirited' >or whatever if we're going to keep it confined to the currently >underground world of ultimate. >alternative scenes have shot themselves in the foot over and over again >and proven to be as hypocritical as any other by creating for >themselves simply another elite of 'do-gooders'; by shunning the >mainstream they simply become another isolated self-righteous group. >so, no i don't think we should compromise the general spirit for the sake >of publicity (because we don't need to do that). and no, i don't think we >should isolate ourselves either as 'the only righteous sport there is'. >i think our publicity should continue to focus on promoting the balance in >ultimate. publicity has been on the up, and i dont' see why we should >start doing away with some ultimate's fundamentals simply because we're >impatient to get McDonalds t-shirts. >i think what we need is more of the same thing actually. continue bringing >why we joined to the forefront. > >who knows....one day, just maybe one day we'll see self-refereed football >games in the FA... maybe Mike Tyson we'll apologise after every punch... > >starry-eyedly yours- >olivier > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 05:04:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA22808 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 05:02:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22802 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 05:02:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (ralf@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA19214 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 05:02:30 +0100 (BST) Received: (from ralf@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id FAA25162 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 May 1999 05:02:29 +0100 (BST) From: Ralf Message-Id: <199905270402.FAA25162@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Drug Influenced Frisbee In-Reply-To: <4FBB9093078@digley.shef.ac.uk> from "K.A.Guard" at "May 26, 99 12:45:40 pm" To: EGA97KAG@sheffield.ac.uk (K.A.Guard) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 05:02:02 +0100 (BST) X-Quote: "Nature doesn't consult you; it doesn't give a damn for your wishes or whether its laws please you or do not please you. You must accept it as it is. . . ." X-Quote: I think there is a world market for about five computers. -- Thomas J. Watson, CEO, IBM Corporation, 1947 X-Freedom: 238 days... Reply-To: ralf@fysh.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL35 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > I personally agree with Ben and think that we should force Mark > Jefferson et al. to drop the name "Whiplash" in case impressionable > players are influenced to experiment with S&M, bondage and rubber > gimp-suits. Hold on! You've got to leave something for Mark to do in the evenings... There's not all that much in Milton Keynes, you know. :-) Ralf (currently finding that there's probably more chance of a game of Ultimate on the moon than in South Australia...) -- I will soon stop using this account as my primary e-mail address. All DCS help questions, please use unixhelp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk All work-related correspondance, please use ralf@dcs.warwick.ac.uk All personal correspondance, please use ralf@fysh.org All spam and junk mail, please use postmaster@localhost From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 10:53:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27627 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:52:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27587 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:52:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01897 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:52:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10mwpY-0008AA-00; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:52:04 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA927798729; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:52:11 GMT Message-Id: <9905279277.AA927798729@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:51:46 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: Drug Debate - my point explained MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > You are quite within your > rights to name your team 'Paedophile Ring' if you want, but > you wouldn't do > it because it would get bad press. Likewise, I am suggesting > that overt > references to drug culture might also not be in the sport's > best interest. i guess you weren't at this year's warwick indoors where the bears narrowly pipped 'Coventry Child Abuse' in the final. Shame. rob, chevron From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 11:45:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10524 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:44:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10516 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:44:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05390 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:44:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10mxeG-000JEh-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:44:28 +0000 Subject: London Summer League Date: Thu, 27 May 99 11:45:31 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all It looks like we're going to have enough teams (just) to start a small summer league, so we'll probably be writing a schedule over the weekend. If you or your team were interested in taking part but haven't yet been in touch, let me know now. Once the schedule's written, we're unlikely to change it to accommodate latecomers. Individual "spare" players also still accepted. You can call me on 0181 767 8243 (h) or 0370 918719 (m). I can also collect e-mail over the weekend too. Old message repeated below. Paul --------------------------- Would your team like to play in a London Summer League? ------------------------------------------------------- We are planning a short summer Ultimate league for London-based teams. Fixtures will be scheduled for weeknights (because weekends are a precious commodity for most players). The league will hopefully be finished by the end of July, and you will likely have a few "off" weeks with no fixture. Teams can either be your usual BUF-recognised lot, or if your team isn't London-based, throw together a team with your friends just for the league. One caveat though. It's easy for a team to say "Yeah, we'll do it", but please make sure you have enough players who are honestly prepared to stick with what is after all not a HUGE commitment. I would have thought that 11, preferably 12 reasonably committed individuals was a bare minimum. If any teams need an extra player or two, I have a list of people without teams who would like to play in the league, which I can forward to you. To register your team's interest, I need to know: * The name of the team * Details of a team contact (name, TELEPHONE NUMBER - IMPORTANT, e-mail) * Which of Clapham Common or Regents Park you'd rather use as a "home" ground (which is easiest for the majority of your players to get to? If you don't have a preference then fine). If you are a "spare" player... ----------------------------- ...and you'd like play in the league, let me know and I'll put you on the list (I could do with your name, phone number, e-mail address, and a rough idea of where you live/work) In the meantime, see you Thursdays.... http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/lus/ thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 13:32:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07763 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:30:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07751 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:30:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16896 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:30:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10mzIz-0006n1-00 for Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:30:38 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 27 May 99 13:30:38 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.43); 27 May 99 13:30:23 +0100 From: "pete" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:30:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: the Ultimate abuse X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <527B7044E2C@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having kicked this debate off, I think I owe it to you all to say a few things. First of all, I realize that posting that message was irresponsible, and I am in no way proud of the link I created between drugs and frisbee cool. Not all publicity is good publicity. It was not my intention to expose ultimate to the moral power of the tabloids. I fully acknowledge that my position of responsibility as an embassodor for the game, makes my actions all the more irresponsible, and hereby resolve to vanquish the scourge of drugs from this fair sport. If the sport needs to make sacrifices to preserve its good name, secure sponsership, and attract school children (Ben), then it is my head that should role. Pete (ex-Phat'eds). Now come on folks theirs a far more interesting debate on Eurodisc, anyone for a dropped pull? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 14:18:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18137 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:11:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18068 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:11:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15608 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:11:17 +0100 (BST) Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:21:03 +0100 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA700000017CF9E@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Simon Salt To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Drugs and draconian measures Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:20:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to chip in and offer an opinion, why do we have a problem of names and their associated meanings? If people want to play Ultimate seriously and attract serious sponsorship to their game then fine they should ensure that their behaviour and their team names are suitable for general consumption by the "General" populace. However, for those that want to play the game for the sense of fun and good spirit at a local/regional level and not in the public eye, then let them be called whatever they want. After all Manchester Utd aren't going to be chastised by the media because there happens to be a Sunday league team called the "Flaming Arseholes" or whatever. People have to decide at what level they want to play and then take the consequences of playing at that level, just as other sports people do. Simon Sneeekys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 17:38:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09298 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:37:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09290 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:37:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29827 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:37:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 13147 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 16:36:35 -0000 Received: from userl535.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.75.94) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 27 May 1999 16:36:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bea85f$286acd00$5e4b95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Re: Drugs and draconian measures Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:36:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The problem with making comparisons with other sports is this. Manchester UTD are a big team and have sponsorship but are not affected by such team names as "Flaming Arseholes". This is because "Flaming Arseholes" are unheard of and teams like them represent a very small percentage of the millions of football teams worldwide. The majority of football teams that play have names like United, Albion, Wanderers and the like. When possible sponsores look at ultimate they see a lot higher percentage of the teams with drug related names. This is to do with the size of ultimate, so what may seem like a small group of people to another sport is actually a fair quantity of ours. Many people have said if teams want sponsorship then another teams name will not affect that decision, but with ultimate at the stage that it is sponsors do not look at selling the teams but the sport. Teams don't contain big names like Beckham or Owen, so the image of the sport is what they use instead. Any connection between ultimate and drugs will slow the growth of the game. Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com -----Original Message----- From: Simon Salt To: 'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Date: 27 May 1999 14:19 Subject: Drugs and draconian measures >Just to chip in and offer an opinion, why do we have a problem of names and >their associated meanings? >If people want to play Ultimate seriously and attract serious sponsorship to >their game then fine they should ensure that their behaviour and their team >names are suitable for general consumption by the "General" populace. >However, for those that want to play the game for the sense of fun and good >spirit at a local/regional level and not in the public eye, then let them be >called whatever they want. >After all Manchester Utd aren't going to be chastised by the media because >there happens to be a Sunday league team called the "Flaming Arseholes" or >whatever. >People have to decide at what level they want to play and then take the >consequences of playing at that level, just as other sports people do. > >Simon >Sneeekys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 18:56:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23245 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:55:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23236 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:55:13 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01732 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:55:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Thu, 27 May 1999 18:55:07 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22829; Thu, 27 May 99 18:55:05 BST Message-Id: <9905271755.AA22829@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:55:03 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Drugs and draconian measures In-Reply-To: <000001bea85f$286acd00$5e4b95c1@default> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Any connection between ultimate and drugs will slow the growth of > the game. > > Matt Lowe Yes, in much the same way that the connection between snowboarding and drugs has prevented that sport from obtaining any recognition or sponsorship. Less, tongue-in-cheekly, do you have any evidence to back up your statement? The non-Daily Mail readers still form a considerable part of the population and can form opinions for themselves, they just might not condemn all recreational drug use out-of-hand, its even possible that there are quite a lot of people outside ultimate who actually use *and enjoy* recreational drugs, perhaps it is from these groups that ultimate will find the players to expand. Finally, if it's what you crave, there's both money and media in counter- as well as mainstream culture. Peter Connor From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 27 20:25:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05979 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05969 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08139 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from p56s03a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.163.87] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10n5lH-0000X4-00; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:24:16 +0100 Message-ID: <005f01bea876$72a6e4a0$57a393c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: "Ben Ravilious" , "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Drug Debate - my point explained Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:23:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree with the people that take the view about playing ultimate because it's different, the whole essence of the sport is that it has the element of non-conformitism about it. The lack of referees and the spirit make it the sport that it is, if this changes in the future then so be it - but while it's the way it is; accept it for what it is. Hopefully changes in the sports future won't mean the removal of the SOTG, maybe it will be the enhancement of it. Worrying about the tabloids reaction to the names of the teams won't do you any favours either. I know we have the worst press in the world for tabloid slander - recent case history proves the point - but if you compare the names of our teams with the names of teams in America then hopefully/should have nothing to worry about. Although there are many tabloid articles out there waiting to be written, there are also the articles from the more broad minded papers that support the facts and are more likely to influence the views of the nation (should it go that far). Coming from a team that has sponsorship already and going to a team that is well established I feel that it is important to promote ultimate as much as possible. However if people are going to be that draconian about the names of ultimate teams then surely every team in the country must think twice. Surely you get many permutation's and combinations out of Skunks, Mohawks and Phat Ed's to list just some student teams. The deciding factors about our sponsors and the reasons why the same sponsors increased their input was because they were interested and that in return for their money we drunk a lot of beer at their pub. This may not be the same for all sponsors but the theory still applies - if you make the offer attractive then they only have financial reasons not to support you. If they don't support you because they heartd some nasty runours about some names then you haven't explained the game properly. Finally it's good to see a debate rising on Britdisc, that's what it's there for Iain Skunks >A debate on Britdisc - Wow! > >I think my point - which has been somewhat missed in this debate - is what >a tabloid newspapers will make of our sport. Its almost certain that the >Worlds >will attract national press coverage given the amount of effort Jon Hope &co >have been putting in. It would only take one sneering News of the World >article to waste it all (unless you liked the Time Out article and believe >any publicity is good publicity) > >I recently did an interview for a magazine in Leicester and the moment they >saw a list of ultimate team names they jumped on the drug culture >references. When it is published, I want to use the article to approach >potential sponsors - if it suggests in any way that we're not entirely above >board then you can forget it and you can forget getting any schools in the >area to start playing too - my fingers are crossed. > >Personally I don't give a fig what names teams have - I love the weird and >wacky names traditional in our sport and I'm not serious about censoring >anything. I also *personally* don't care what people get up to in the >privacy of their own homes - I am not a big Jack Straw fan either! > > >All I am suggesting is that it would not be too much to ask newly forming >teams just to be a bit careful about what names they choose. Being sensible >about this does not have to involve the infringement of civil liberties or >any huge compromise with the culture of our sport. You are quite within your >rights to name your team 'Paedophile Ring' if you want, but you wouldn't do >it because it would get bad press. Likewise, I am suggesting that overt >references to drug culture might also not be in the sport's best interest. > >My reply to the 'keep it cosy' traditionalists out there is next time you >run a freshers fair and someone joins having seen "that Channel 4 >documentary" or "this website" perhaps you should reflect on how you first >heard about the sport and how lucky you are to have found it. That is what >good publicity can do for you. > > >Fair enough? > >Ben >(my own opinions throughout) > >PS: Red Leicester is not only a cheese but also a powerful hallucinogen >which >causes the abuser to see players, discs, endzones, etc which are not >actually there! Particularly popular in the Bristol area - Pete? ;-) > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 02:04:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27176 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:02:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA27171 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:02:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24037 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:02:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10nB2k-0005Bc-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 May 1999 01:02:39 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:59:21 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Drugs and draconian measures References: <000001bea85f$286acd00$5e4b95c1@default> In-Reply-To: <000001bea85f$286acd00$5e4b95c1@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Time to drop in my (first?) two-penneth... Matthew Lowe writes >The problem with making comparisons with other sports is this. Manchester >UTD are a big team and have sponsorship but are not affected by such team >names as "Flaming Arseholes". MU, as a team, are not directly affected, but Football, as a Serious Sport, is. Luckily the "Football" as a generic sport (i.e. from kicking around in the park with your mates, up to World Cup teams) is large enough to dilute or localise any disruption potentially caused. Famous football "stars" making getting rowdy in bars, or on aeroplanes, or saying the wrong things, also has a disruptive effect on the sport - but this gets localised by the use of "it's 'cos it's HIM, not 'cos he's a footballer" > This is because "Flaming Arseholes" are >unheard of and teams like them represent a very small percentage of the >millions of football teams worldwide. But, they (probably) have a ground, get regular (paying?) spectators, and a small sponsorship deal... Not even the sensibly named, currently serious Ultimate teams have that. > When possible sponsores look at ultimate they see a lot higher percentage >of the teams with drug related names. OK, there's comparatively more "unsavoury" names in Ultimate - and it has a lot to do with the size of the sport, and the largely student origins (e.g. "Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds" is a damn site less enthralling than "Manchester Metropolitan University Ultimate") BUT - student teams seem (by the current state of things) more likely to get sponsorship from local businesses who are more interested in getting said students to use their services/products (mostly pubs!) and advertise them, than being overly concerned about the name said student team goes by Other teams with the more "unsavoury" names, aren't necessarily too fussed about potential sponsorship. The teams that might benefit most from "big", "corporate" deals (like having the TDK or Panasonic logos all over your sponsor-provided kit, and a bit of cash to help with training / transport / tournament / medical fees, and a paid publicity department that can pull strings in the media world) are the "most successful" - i.e. the ones going to Worlds. Some of them have "bizarre" names, but none of them are particularly "unsavoury". If the sponsors aren't too happy with their name, they'll probably not be too fussed about changing it a bit. > Many people have said if teams want sponsorship then another teams name >will not affect that decision, but with ultimate at the stage that it is >sponsors do not look at selling the teams but the sport. >Teams don't contain >big names like Beckham or Owen, Both famous because they're good at their chosen sport. Eddie-the-Eagle was famous for being a nutter - but he had to use the publicity already generated by skijumping to become a famous nutter rather than a nutter no-one has ever heard of! Once Ultimate gets publicity, it will introduce new stars/nutters to the World: Moonee; Parinella; "Corky"; and our own, home-grown: Jackson; Golby; and the Funky 'Did someone say layout?' Monks. Who are the famous people in women's lacrosse? Which team won the World Aerobics Championships? and these sports are televised!!!! surely we could be televised nobodies, too? It's got to be a better source of funds than being nobodies hidden from view, and there's the chance that someone will say "I like this! Call them..." > so the image of the sport is what they use >instead. Any connection between ultimate and drugs will slow the growth of >the game. Just as the association of alcohol with Football, Rugby and Hockey have slowed that growth??? Carling even suggest (tongue-in-cheek) that the game started by kicking a beer can around! Sorry. Point taken - alcohol is a "legalised" drug, as are nicotine, caffeine and the assorted bits in Red Bull (unless you're competing in the Olympics, etc... but that's a matter for Chris Hughes to enlighten you on), but cannabis, etc ISN'T. Whilst I'd be positively scared to use a bunch of drunken Druids as promotional material, in the eyes of the law, it seems to a better sight than a large joint being passed around on a sunny day... The latter may seem more peaceful - but is ILLEGAL. End of story. End of sponsorship. End of fame. Bugger! I reckon we don't have to be squeaky-clean (that has to be near- impossible for anyone!), so a few "unsavoury" names will survive, but if the sponsorship / publicity is available, teams will evolve to their compromise points, to make as much use of what's available without loosing what's really important to them. The sport of Ultimate will, too, but exactly where the compromise point is remains to be seen. I guess we'll find out, when the option arises. Apologies for how long this took. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 09:56:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00121 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00098 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hgty.capgemini.co.uk (hgty.capgemini.co.uk [194.42.240.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27602 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199905280844.JAA24236@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Received: forwarded by SMTP 3.0.11. From: "Thornton, Paul R" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Drugs again, Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:54:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Without wanting to sound like the counsellor from South Park ('drugs are baaaad, okaaay!'), I'd like to make a slightly different point about drugs and Ultimate. Okay, many people who play Ultimate have a relaxed view about drugs, and quite a lot of people who don't also have a relaxed view. Unfortunately, almost all of the people who control the facilities we need to play on (i.e. decent sports grounds) have very fixed views on drugs (at least publicly). The point I am trying to make is that if we want to use decent venues then we can't afford a negative image. The people who run those venues will refuse to associate themselves with that negative image. There are other people who can better comment on this. However, the Ross tournament can be taken as an example. It is still a great tournie, but, unless old age is dimming my memory, it used to be held at a nicer venue until an unfortunate drug related incident. As for names, I don't think 'Headrush' is too offensive (especially when its Ultimate context is explained). 'UTI' will only offend those people looking to be offended. I think 'Coventry Child Abuse' is probably pushing it though .... Paul Red From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 10:09:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03414 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:08:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03401 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:08:43 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora.wat ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA28539 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:08:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0005CE68; Fri, 28 May 99 10:06:16 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:07:02 +0100 Message-ID: <0005CE68.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re[2]: Drugs and draconian measures To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >(e.g. "Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds" is a damn site less >enthralling than "Manchester Metropolitan University Ultimate") with apologies to Fingers 6 - for "less" read "more" ! Oh, and I'm not suggesting their name is "unsavoury", though, like the recent "Whiplash" comments, the origin of the name could be misinterpreted. Wayne From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 10:20:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06091 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06073 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:48 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from pandora.wat ([62.172.72.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA29344 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.01 Enterprise) id 0005CEBC; Fri, 28 May 99 10:17:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:17:45 +0100 Message-ID: <0005CEBC.CE21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Drugs again, and Ross-on-Wye To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Thornton; Paul R" > However, the Ross tournament can be taken as an example. It is still a > great tournie, but, unless old age is dimming my memory, it used to be > held at a nicer venue until an unfortunate drug related incident. Close - Druids moved the Ross tournament to a venue with better facilities. In the second year at the new venue, a drug related incident resulted in Ultimate becoming locally infamous for the "inherent drug culture" (the actions of a few were seen as typical). The venue has to keep the regular 'local' clients happy, so the Ultimate tournament was never allowed to return... Wayne Retter PS: If Adam Batchelor sorts his life out and books the old venue again, Druids will be able to get everything else organised and Ross-on-Wye '99 invitations should be forthcoming in the not-too-distant future. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 10:20:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05826 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05803 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay02.esat.net (relay02.esat.net [192.111.39.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29308 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay02.esat.net with smtp id 10nInF-0005XB-00; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:09 +0100 Received: from sepro_pbenn [192.168.1.171] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:13:40 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" , "EuroDisc" Cc: Subject: Ultimate ad in Sports Illustrated Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:18:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bea8eb$18878c70$ab01a8c0@sepro_pbenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ************************************************************ UPA ULTIMATE AD IN SPORTS ILLUSTRATED: The UPA put an ad in the Colorado regional version of Sports Illustrated for the College National Championships this weekend. Check it out - it looks sweet. Too bad it wasn't in all SI's rather than just that one. http://www.upa.org/gifs/siad.html From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 10:31:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08909 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08897 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:04 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00175 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:58 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:56 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF5A@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Drugs in Ultimate Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Probably my final comments on the matter: Why are we even having this discussion? Am I the only one who thinks the hypothesis is premature? Maybe my last message was misunderstood, more likely ignored, but I will persist with my point - teams who currently pursue sponsorship are no more likely to be held back by a perceived drug culture than Man UTD were (hypothetically) by the Flaming Arseholes. We are limited only by our size and profile. Surely the discussion should be how can we get to the luxurious position where a discussion on the image of Ultimate is actually required? It will be years, not months, before we are (potentially) in that position, by which time they may even have decriminalised Cannabis, rendering this debate irrelevant. At this stage in the growth of Ultimate steps to make it more publicly acceptable are, in my opinion, going to have a reverse effect - as many people have pointed out before me, disc sports are the "alternative", and are attractive to potential players because, not despite, of that. Grow from love, man..... Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 12:37:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09070 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:35:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09057 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:35:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07750 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:35:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.200]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10nKvI-00041n-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:35:36 +0100 Received: from DUNDEE-AS/SpoolDir by dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 28 May 99 12:35:29 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-AS (Mercury 1.44); 28 May 99 12:35:03 +0 From: "Steve Morrish" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:35:01 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Looking for a hero...... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone, anyone, from Jedi please contact me, regarding possibly picking up for us at the Edinburgh tourney. If they've cloistered themselves away from computers, could someone please pass a message onto them, asking them to contact me. It would be much appreciated. Whilst on the subject of pick-ups, any and all are welcomed to team up with Shooting Stars (now how's that for a bit of a drug related name then????) for Tour III in Edinburgh. You can't miss us, we're the psychos on the sideline wearing the blue t-shirts and dancing all the time! Cheers, Starky Captain, (Drug Free) Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 13:36:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23363 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:35:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23357 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:34:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11424 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:34:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10nLq1-000G2f-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:34:14 +0000 Subject: Re: Drugs and draconian measures Date: Fri, 28 May 99 13:35:06 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The general public immediately assume that any game involving "Frisbees" must be played by drug-crazed hippies. Nearly every time I speak to media people about the sport, you can tell that's what they're thinking (Honestly, after I'd explained the sport to one researcher, and gone into how seriously the top teams have to train, he actually asked, "So tell me, are sawn-off jeans and flowery bermuda shirts de-rigeur for Ultimate?"). So it's an uphill struggle for Ultimate before you even start, and drug references within the sport only tend to reinforce these misconceptions. I don't think it's a huge problem (there's not THAT many culprits), and I don't think any kind of censorship is being called for. But it might pay to exercise a little forethought and try to take a wider view when choosing a team name. Forget sponsorship and media coverage for now... it would just be nice to be taken a bit more seriously occasionally. Which is where the snowboarding analogy breaks down - snowboarders can do what they like, because snowboarding is cool. Ultimate isn't cool (I mean, I know it *is*, but try convincing your average 18 to 24-year-old). BTW, if you really want to help promote Ultimate as a "serious" sport, a good start would be to simply erase the word "Frisbee" from your vocabulary! (Just Say "Disc"). Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 15:31:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22495 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:29:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22457 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:29:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02486 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:29:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.139.88] (helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10nNdo-0002ib-0K; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:29:51 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:11:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4452285@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Paul Hurt'" , BritDisc Subject: RE: Drugs and draconian measures Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:09:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BTW, if you really want to help promote Ultimate as a "serious" sport, a good start would be to simply erase the word "Frisbee" from your vocabulary! (Just Say "Disc"). In Queensland, Australia, they do not use the 'frisbee' term, everything is referred to disc this, and disc that. The Aussie Nationals shirts and discs are all printed up with the 1999 Australian Ultimate Disc Championships on them. Not surprisingly, the tournament attracted a fair amount of local sponsorship, not however without a great deal of work by the organisers. Perhaps Paul is right, getting into local community sponsorship by promoting Ultimate as a disc (not Frisbee) sport may actually help. However, they do have teams named, Go Deep, Return of the Red Eye & Feral, which don't exactly conjure up completely respectable thoughts do they. Anyway enough of referring to UTI - Under the Influence. We are under the influence of everything and everyone, not just those drugs, legal or otherwise. Back to work.......another drug????? Colin. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 16:32:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07074 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:31:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07069 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:31:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10975 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:31:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:27:06 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:30:44 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED439@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Superfly! Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:30:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If Superfly intend to enter Tour 3 in Edinburgh, then they need to contact myself, Dora Kemp, and Stuart Mullinger - NOW! Chris Hughes DoC Chris Hughes 01452 380529 Dora Kemp (sorry don't have phone no. handy) Stuart Mullinger 0131 6621774 sneeekys@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 16:53:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11615 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11590 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13531 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:52:40 +0100 (BST) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:56:46 -0700 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758FE28536@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Drugs and draconian measures Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:51:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 3 serious points: 1 - In the internal world of Ultimate names don't matter, but to others, they do. However, outsiders like the fact that we don't call ourselves "sensible" names. 2 - Si is right - one of the biggest things that would stop Ultimate being seen as a fringe sport is referees. I don't agree with having referees, I think that observers is a step in the wrong direction, but every outsider I have spoken to has said things like "that means you can get away with a lot of stuff!", and immediately has an image of fouls happening at every verse end. 3 - It is possible to promote a sport from the ground up, by getting schools etc to play. One of the clearest examples of this is Korfball, which enjoys a player base similar to ours, but has sponsorship etc, and when played at international level, has the backing of the sports council. Although it is not televised, and is a "minority" sport in the UK, it has a very large following in Holland and Poland, and is televised there regularly (about every 3 months or so iirc). The question that I have is - do we care if Ultimate is seen as a major sport in the UK? It is possible to have the things that we want (sponsorship, recognition etc.) without it, and if we can promote good SOTG as the core of Ultimate, then that is what makes the sport different. Cads - living in the states, working way too hard, and not playing due to injury. > -----Original Message----- > From: Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] [SMTP:Colin.Wagstaff@eulergroup.com] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 7:09 AM > To: 'Paul Hurt'; BritDisc > Subject: RE: Drugs and draconian measures > > BTW, if you really want to help promote Ultimate as a "serious" > sport, a > good start would be to simply erase the word "Frisbee" from your > vocabulary! (Just Say "Disc"). > > In Queensland, Australia, they do not use the 'frisbee' term, > everything is referred to disc this, and disc that. The Aussie Nationals > shirts and discs are all printed up with the 1999 Australian Ultimate Disc > Championships on them. Not surprisingly, the tournament attracted a fair > amount of local sponsorship, not however without a great deal of work by > the > organisers. > > Perhaps Paul is right, getting into local community sponsorship by > promoting Ultimate as a disc (not Frisbee) sport may actually help. > > However, they do have teams named, Go Deep, Return of the Red Eye & > Feral, which don't exactly conjure up completely respectable thoughts do > they. > > Anyway enough of referring to UTI - Under the Influence. We are > under the influence of everything and everyone, not just those drugs, > legal > or otherwise. > > Back to work.......another drug????? > > Colin. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 19:16:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02096 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 19:14:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02090 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 19:14:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (as-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.217.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25307 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 19:14:27 +0100 (BST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.0) id OAA02808 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:13:34 -0400 From: Stuart Clark Subject: Looking for Leo To: Britdisc Message-ID: <199905281413_MC2-7778-5779@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id TAA02091 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anybody know the whereabouts of Leo James??? Sneeky and sometime Funky Monk? Cheers Stu. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 28 20:42:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12239 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:41:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12233 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:41:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from spamgaac.compuserve.com (as-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.217.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00745 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 20:41:14 +0100 (BST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.0) id PAA19192 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:40:12 -0400 From: Stuart Clark Subject: Do we care? To: Britdisc Message-ID: <199905281540_MC2-7778-5D38@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id UAA12234 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think Cads hit it right on the head.... >The question that I have is - do we care if Ultimate is seen as a major >sport in the UK? and I think the brutal truth is "No." The fact of the matter is this, Ultimate is nowhere near the profile it needs to be to start attracting sponsors. I'll illustrate my point. We're using things like Korfball as a comparison but when someone mentions Korfball you instantly have a mental image of what that game is, and what it's about. The same is true of Lacrosse, and Water Polo. We all know or have a vague idea of what these sports involve and yet have any of us played them? How come we know? Ultimate on the other hand...... Well what's that then? "Well it's a game with a Frisbee".....So what do you do, see how far you can throw it? No-one has the faintest clue what we all do with our weekends. At best you might get "Oh yeah, I saw an article on that once." but that's rare. Now look at it from a sponsors point of view. You come to me wanting me to sponsor your team. It's not a lot of money, maybe 300 quid to cover your strip and a few extras, but the first thing I'm going to say is, "Well what the hell is this Ultimate thing? I've never heard of it. (Hence neither have 99.99 of the general populace). Who's going to see my motto on your strip?" "Er.......about 250 other players at a tournament (who don't need convincing to play 'cos they're already there), and that is of course providing I don't lay out and cover my shirt in mud in which case it won't be seen by anyone. Sorry, but unless I'm a really charitable fellow which a local pub landlord might be, for me it's a bum deal. Zero advertising, 300 quid down the drain. So then it comes down to raising the profile of the game, and the onus has to be on us as players. We can't rely on the BUF to do this for all of us, and that's not to say that the BUF is ineffective, it's just saying that as governing bodies go, it's tiny, and if it's going to have any clout it needs every one of us behind it and doing our bit to raise the profile of our sport. In the last ten years there's been a relative handful of people get involved in the day to day running of the BUF. Some have been doing it for ages and are still there or influential, but that's just it - if they don't do it, no-one will. Add to this the other handful of individuals who have hosted and run tournaments and you've got about the sum total of all the people in the UK who've been procreative about Ultimate. The problem is that in general, Ultimate in this country has a pretty apathetic player base. If the sport grows then great, if it doesn't, so what - my favourite tournament will probably still be on the same weekend next year, I just wanna turn up and play. Ultimate in schools. Brilliant!!! It's something that's talked about at nearly every BUF meeting (or used to be). Why isn't it happening faster than it is? Because the schools co-ordinator is one guy who can't teach Ultimate in schools nationwide. We need enthusiastic people on the ground who are prepared to give up some of their time if this sport is going to go anywhere. Ask yourself what you've done to promote Ultimate (and telling someone down the pub doesn't really count). BUF AGM? Naaaaa, I'd rather go to the party. Mmmmmm. I'll go before I bore you all to death. Stu. BAF #77 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat May 29 00:17:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01452 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:15:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01366 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:15:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA09650 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:15:19 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22079 invoked from network); 28 May 1999 23:15:05 -0000 Received: from userl288.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.74.101) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 28 May 1999 23:15:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bea95f$ea53cba0$654a95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Re: Drugs and draconian measures Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:14:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Oakley, Caedman To: BritDisc Date: 28 May 1999 16:54 Subject: RE: Drugs and draconian measures >3 serious points: > >1 - In the internal world of Ultimate names don't matter, but to others, >they do. However, outsiders like the fact that we don't call ourselves >"sensible" names. I agree. Though it would not hurt for new teams to think a little more carefully when picking names. >2 - Si is right - one of the biggest things that would stop Ultimate being >seen as a fringe sport is referees. I don't agree with having referees, I >think that observers is a step in the wrong direction, but every outsider I >have spoken to has said things like "that means you can get away with a lot >of stuff!", and immediately has an image of fouls happening at every verse >end. I think Ultimate could manage without referees if it reaches a more public level. But I see some kind officials being inevitable if the game wants to keep growing. A system like the Callahan rules, where observers make a decision if the two players involved cannot agree in a short time, would work well as it keeps the game going and still puts an emphasis on spirit. >3 - It is possible to promote a sport from the ground up, by getting schools >etc to play. One of the clearest examples of this is Korfball, which enjoys >a player base similar to ours, but has sponsorship etc, and when played at >international level, has the backing of the sports council. Although it is >not televised, and is a "minority" sport in the UK, it has a very large >following in Holland and Poland, and is televised there regularly (about >every 3 months or so iirc). I cannot see why British Ultimate could not do more work with schools. As far as I see it all it needs is one or two individuals that could give up one evening a week to coach a Junior Ultimate session. The coach could contact several local schools and make it open too all children in the area. Just ten people doing this nation-wide would double the number of junior clubs and increase the number of players starting before University. >The question that I have is - do we care if Ultimate is seen as a major >sport in the UK? It is possible to have the things that we want >(sponsorship, recognition etc.) without it, and if we can promote good SOTG >as the core of Ultimate, then that is what makes the sport different. That is up to the general Ultimate public of the UK. Should the sport be considered major? I believe it could gain quite a high profile without sacrificing the ideals of SOTG. Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com >Cads - living in the states, working way too hard, and not playing due to >injury. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 30 20:44:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26808 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:43:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26797 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:43:25 +0100 (BST) From: jt-cam@cwcom.net Received: from cwcom.net (email.mcmail.com [195.44.0.104] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22709 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 20:43:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from cwcom.net ([195.44.203.247]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.167.16); Sun, 30 May 1999 20:44:35 +0100 Message-ID: <375195DB.341A3836@cwcom.net> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:47:40 +0100 Reply-To: jt-cam@cwcom.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: school teams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With regard to raising the profile of the sport, and avoiding apathy, I'm currently considering setting up an Ultimate team in the school I teach at, and would appreciate some information on the following points: 1) How many school teams are there in the UK, and is there any kind of separate school league? 2) Are school teams eligible to play in any open/student tournament? 3) Any tips on which age range is the best - I have interest from 6th formers as well as younger pupils (13+)?? 4) Any school teams remotely close to Carlisle interested in a few friendlies? Grateful for any advice you can send my way, Cheers, Catherine Moore Carlisle From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 31 07:47:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19562 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19555 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03335 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA11535 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 31 May 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199905310647.HAA11535@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 5th June 1999 Tour III (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 31 11:45:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06948 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:43:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06937 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:43:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12090 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:43:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from fs1.eng.man.ac.uk ([130.88.29.100]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10oPX1-000Cxd-03; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:42:59 +0100 Received: from UK-AC-MAN-ENG-FS1/SpoolDir by fs1.eng.man.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 31 May 99 11:42:59 BST Received: from SpoolDir by UK-AC-MAN-ENG-FS1 (Mercury 1.43); 31 May 99 11:42:51 BST From: "P.P.Guest" Organization: University of Manchester To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:39:53 BST Subject: "frisbee" names and so on X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Message-ID: <2899ED20E82@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk > > >(e.g. "Fingers 6 Steps Ahead of our Minds" is a damn site less > >enthralling than "Manchester Metropolitan University Ultimate") > > with apologies to Fingers 6 - for "less" read "more" ! > Yeah thanks Wayne, you were in danger of a lynching the next time we see you. > Oh, and I'm not suggesting their name is "unsavoury", though, like the > recent "Whiplash" comments, the origin of the name could be > misinterpreted. Although I must admit we have played it up a little recently with our "when 5 fingers just aren't enough" slogan. I think someone touched on a fair point mentioning the way the aussies dropped the word frisbee for "disc." I don't think anyone I know playing ultimate uses the word in general conversation or in a game. The problem is that if you want to avoid saying you play "frisbee" with all the attitude that creates you're left with saying you play "ultimate" which can sometimes stick in the throat as a bit self-inflated. Of course thare ain't anything we can do as it all comes back to those crazee college kids back in the good ol' swinging sixties who probably never thought about getting sponsorship from their local pub would be an issue! Oh yeah, some of those who came up with the "f6saoom" idea now form the back-bone of one of the top clubs in the country (chevvy) so I think we can see the progress from the less to the more seriuos side of ultimate. Tu'penny worth over, Paul Fingers Six (obviously)------------------------------- Paul Guest University of Manchester P.P.Guest@stud.man.ac.uk MBGA5PPG@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 31 13:10:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16920 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:08:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16903 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:08:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd107.hotmail.com [207.82.252.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11284 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:08:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 53350 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 12:07:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531120736.53349.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.128.78 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 05:07:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.128.78] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Seeking a big favour Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 05:07:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following only applies to those in London. Dear Friends >From Monday 7 June to Fri/Saturday 3/4 July I will be Working in London. Up until yesterday everything was dora hunky but my accomodation has just fallen through. Can anyone please (please, please) offer me something for these four weeks? Like you I'll floor crash for two nights at a tourny, but I can't really do it for four weeks so if you have a spare room, or a bed in another room, or even just a bed(!) I'm interested. The studio I'm working at is in St Lukes just S/E of Islington, nearest tube is Bank, so anything near to the area or connectable to the station would be excellent. I realise this is more than the ordinary 'Can I kip over' request so of course I'm prepared to come to an agreement over bills/rent/food etc. I converse interestingly (aledgedly), cook (experimentally) and play disc in the park (absolutely). ;) Please reply to this address asap if you can help or know someone who might be able to. Include a phone number if you have one and I'll call you pronto. Many thanks in advance All the bes* Jes* Soup - Thick, Creamy, leaves you stuffed O | /| / | / | / | / \_____ ____/ \ \ / /\_______\ \ | / x - \ | \ / \ o /| \ | | \__/ | \ | O \ | \| \_| | O ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 31 14:23:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25520 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:21:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25513 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:20:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe17.hotmail.com [207.82.253.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA21228 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:20:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 62571 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 13:20:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531132026.62570.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.128.78 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 06:20:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.128.78] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Soup & the Big Issue Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 06:20:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all This weekend you will have a chance to take part in one of the biggest most prestigious Ultimate competitions ever. Skill, stamina, speed, fitness and luck will all play a part. No, not the Tour (skill, stamina, speed, do me a favour(!);) it's: Fanfare!!! Big Issue money raising Spot the disc! Oh yes. During Saturday's play and the due to be fantastic Saturday night party, the Soup players will be circulating a carfully sellected picture of a recent game of Ultimate. Look carefully. Something's wrong. Something's not right. Where's the disc?! It has been removed using the most expensive hi-tec equipment available leaving you with the task of 'spotting' it. Think you can handle it? For a measely £1 you get three crosses to place anywhere you like on the picture. Return it by the end of Sunday's play for judging (incidentally there will be non of this 'the expert pannel think it's here' judging bollocks, I'll have the original so you can see for yourself) and a winner will be found! The more who enter, the higher the cash prizes and the more money will be raised for the Big Issues (all profits go here!) so did deep! See all you generous people Saturday! Bes* Jes* Soup - It Came from the Kitchen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 31 16:21:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11402 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:18:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11392 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:18:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd107.hotmail.com [207.82.252.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16754 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:18:10 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 26265 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 1999 15:17:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990531151739.26264.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.194.10 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 08:17:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.10] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Womens Practice on Tuesday Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:17:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For this week only. Due to the Bank Holiday weekend the women's practice in Regents Park is on Tuesday, rather than Monday. At: Regents Park (south east part of the Zoo). Where First Touch usually practice. Time: 18.30 ish ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 01:26:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23239 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:24:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23232 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:24:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail9.svr.pol.co.uk (mail9.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.22]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20462 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:24:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-45.name13.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.166.45] helo=alscomputer) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ocMQ-0003MK-00; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:24:55 +0100 Message-ID: <007a01beabc4$b68d3600$53fbfea9@alscomputer> From: "Alan Harding" To: "BritDisc" , References: <375195DB.341A3836@cwcom.net> Subject: Re: school teams Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:15:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01BEABCC.499C2300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BEABCC.499C2300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1. I used to play for a junior team for about 4 years, and every year the = amount of teams grew. There are junior tournaments but only about 1 a = season (Indoor & Outdoor). There should be about 12+ Junior teams around = at the moment. But to keep this going there should be more tournaments = (Even a separate division in a major tourney will do - Tour, = Nationals???) this will then demonstrate the level of ultimate that is = achievable and will drive young people to keep playing. 2. Juniors used to / or maybe still allowed to play in Open or Student = tournaments. But few rarely do. Maybe due to unfair rules ( I will = explain....) Once while playing for Discult, we entered as a Junior teams at the = national Qualifiers. We were playing IRON Man (No Subs.... :) ). we = played well and managed to take 3rd position. Thinking we qualified we = celebrated. But we didn't this was because we weren't Uni. Students, = College Students Yes, Uni. No. ---- Cheers Guys. This because a year or two back a junior team NADS, beat all the = students won the student finals. (beaten by juniors -- oh dear!!! :) )=20 So after that we are not allowed to qualify, but are invited to play to = make up numbers!!. 3. >From my experience of teaching kids to chuck a disc, they are all keen, = but when it comes to the game < 12 may struggle with rules and taking it = seriously. The person to contact about Junior Ultimate is Kevin Lowe (Chevron = Action Flash) as he did / does a great job a Junior Co-ordinator. Good luck in your quest Al. Teams: I'll have a D please Bob, Discult, GB Juniors, Phoenix Phylers, = Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) - Pickup =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- (alan_harding28@hotmail.com) Global (alan@ajh28.freeserve.co.uk) Home ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 30, 1999 8:47 PM Subject: school teams > With regard to raising the profile of the sport, and avoiding apathy, > I'm currently considering setting up an Ultimate team in the school I > teach at, and would appreciate some information on the following = points: >=20 > 1) How many school teams are there in the UK, and is there any kind of > separate school league? > 2) Are school teams eligible to play in any open/student tournament? > 3) Any tips on which age range is the best - I have interest from 6th > formers as well as younger pupils (13+)?? > 4) Any school teams remotely close to Carlisle interested in a few > friendlies? >=20 > Grateful for any advice you can send my way, > Cheers, > Catherine Moore > Carlisle >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BEABCC.499C2300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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I used to play for a junior = team for=20 about 4 years, and every year the amount of teams grew. There are = junior=20 tournaments but only about 1 a season (Indoor & Outdoor). There = should be=20 about 12+ Junior teams around at the moment. But to keep this going = there should=20 be more tournaments (Even a separate division in a major tourney will do = - Tour,=20 Nationals???) this will then demonstrate the level of ultimate that is=20 achievable and will drive young people to keep playing.
 
2.
Juniors used to / = or maybe=20 still allowed to play in Open or Student tournaments. But few rarely do. = Maybe=20 due to unfair rules ( I will explain....)
Once while playing for = Discult, we=20 entered as a Junior teams at the national Qualifiers. We were playing = IRON Man=20 (No Subs.... :) ). we played well and managed to take 3rd position. = Thinking we=20 qualified we celebrated. But we didn't this was because we weren't Uni.=20 Students, College Students Yes, Uni. = No.      =20 ----    Cheers Guys.
 
This because a year or = two back a=20 junior team NADS, beat all the students won the student finals. (beaten = by=20 juniors -- oh dear!!! :) )
So after that we are not = allowed to=20 qualify, but are invited to play to make up numbers!!.
 
3.
From my experience of = teaching kids to=20 chuck a disc, they are all keen, but when it comes to the game < 12 = may=20 struggle with rules and taking it seriously.
 
The person to contact about = Junior=20 Ultimate is Kevin Lowe (Chevron Action Flash) as he did / does a great = job a=20 Junior Co-ordinator.
 
Good luck in your = quest
 
Al.
 
Teams: I'll have a D please = Bob, Discult,=20 GB Juniors, Phoenix Phylers, Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) -=20 Pickup
 
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(alan_harding28@hotmail.com= )       =20 Global
(alan@ajh28.freeserve.co.uk= )         =20 Home
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From: <jt-cam@cwcom.net>
To: <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk= >
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 1999 = 8:47=20 PM
Subject: school = teams

> With regard to = raising the=20 profile of the sport, and avoiding apathy,
> I'm currently = considering=20 setting up an Ultimate team in the school I
> teach at, and would=20 appreciate some information on the following points:
>
> 1) = How=20 many school teams are there in the UK, and is there any kind of
> = separate=20 school league?
> 2) Are school teams eligible to play in any = open/student=20 tournament?
> 3) Any tips on which age range is the best - I have = interest=20 from 6th
> formers as well as younger pupils (13+)??
> 4) = Any school=20 teams remotely close to Carlisle interested in a few
> = friendlies?
>=20
> Grateful for any advice you can send my way,
> = Cheers,
>=20 Catherine Moore
> Carlisle
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01BEABCC.499C2300-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 09:35:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21611 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:33:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21599 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:33:42 +0100 (BST) From: Peter.Cotton@Thameswater.CO.UK Received: from ThamesWater.Co.Uk (mailhost.thameswater.co.uk [194.42.250.98]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA11678 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:33:41 +0100 (BST) Received: by ThamesWater.Co.Uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 80256783.002E98AF ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:28:57 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: THAMESWATER To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <80256783.002EC857.00@ThamesWater.Co.Uk> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:34:10 +0100 Subject: calling sneeekys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I will be going up to Edinburgh early to acclimatise (wind speed and direction, length of grass, late opening hours - that kind of thing) I understand that there is a sneeeky practice in 'the meadows' on wednesday at 7pm. Can anyone give me directions, or is it easy? Pete 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 11:21:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12297 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12286 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18104 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04448 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:20:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 1 Jun 99 11:20:05 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 1 Jun 99 11:19:39 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:19:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Ultimate growth X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <73730BB1360@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There's a lot been said about Ultimate's image outside of the sport, and how it affects the sports growth. I think this is secondary to the following points. 1) COST - I think this is the single biggest factor, which affects the growth of ultimate. At the moment, virtually all revenue in the sport comes from the players. Some teams in the past have held tournaments for the purposes of generating revenue for them to play foriegn ultimate. Note that one of the tournaments in question was a regional championship, so it wasn't a matter of choice. Other costs on the ultimate player are applied by the BUF in terms of tournament and player taxes. Charging ultimate players for frankly limited publicity simply doesn't make sense. Incidently, what exactly is BUF money spent on? I'm not being cynical; I just don't know. 2) Loss of players - Many players leave the sport after university. I think that one of the biggest reasons people don't continue is that they don't have a team to play for. This is an area, which can easily be addressed. Every year, maybe it would be worth setting up a roster of all graduates around the country, to make it easier for them to set up teams. It is often the case that they move to towns which has no ultimate. 3) Expanding the growth areas I don't mean to dwell on university ultimate, but it is the main growth area. Starting teams in more universities. It usually starts by someone who has played before, moving to a particular university. This happened at Aberdeen (Petroleum) last year; there now doing really well and last time we played them they had 15 or so players come to Edinburgh. In a few years maybe they'll grow to a club of 40 or 50. Supporting these new teams is a priority, and this only happens by invitations and by keeping tournament costs low!!! Ok, I've talked for far too long, but my personal opinion is ultimate needs to concentrate on serving the people who play. A good steady growth of people who would otherwise be attracted to the sport (this doesn't mean we should make it cliquey), is much better than a media driven boom which would be followed by an equally sharp decline. Finally, just to say that these are just my personal views. I speak for nobody else. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo S.O.U.P From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 11:23:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13282 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:23:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13277 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:23:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18391 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:23:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (south-02.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.2]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01555; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:23:26 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199906011023.LAA01555@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H12/SpoolDir by south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 1 Jun 99 11:23:13 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H12 (Mercury 1.45); 1 Jun 99 11:23:05 GMT0BST From: "Chris Richardson" Organization: University of Leeds To: "Alan Harding" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:23:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: school teams CC: "BritDisc" In-reply-to: <007a01beabc4$b68d3600$53fbfea9@alscomputer> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Adam wrote: > Juniors used to / or maybe still allowed to play in Open or Student tournaments. But few rarely do. Maybe due to unfair rules ( I will explain....) > Once while playing for Discult, we entered as a Junior teams at the national Qualifiers. We were playing IRON Man (No Subs.... :) ). we played well and managed to take 3rd position. Thinking we qualified> > This because a year or two back a junior team NADS, beat all the students won the student finals. (beaten by juniors -- oh dear!!! :) ) > So after that we are not allowed to qualify, but are invited to play to make up numbers!!. Sorry to all the juniors out there to dispel these mythical figures who came and conquered all student opposition but NADS only finished second in the Northern qualifiers, losing by quite a large score to Catch 22. At the student finals in Oxford we came an even more lowly 9th and last in the competition, but along with all the usual cliches we were just happy to be there. Therefore you cannot blame me (as the only NADS player still playing regularly) for junior teams not being allowed to play in Student tournaments Surely this happens since juniors have their own tournaments to play in that Students aren't allowed to. There is nothing stopping a junior team from entering open tournaments. It bring invaluable experience - I was taught how to play zone by Sneeekys on a wet afternoon in Shropshire! We even hosted several open events! Sorry this mail became longer than I thought - nice to go down in Ultimate folklore though! Chris -Jedi, ex-NADS and always a Leeds Legend Chris Richardson- phs6cr@leeds.ac.uk or fluffy_nicholls@hotmail.com 12 Hessle Place, Leeds. LS61EU (0113) 2165130 or 07808 538077 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 12:51:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02211 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:49:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02175 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:49:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.48]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23720 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:49:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.01 #3) id 10on37-0005tB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:49:41 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:52:43 +0100 Subject: Coach to Edinburgh From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all I still have 8 seats available on our hired coach to Edinburgh for Tour 3. We will be leaving Cambridge at 1.30 pm on Friday and heading up the A1. We will be stopping at the services on the A1 near Grantham to pick up one passenger. If you would prefer to be picked up here that is fine. The cost is 31 pounds return. We will be staying at a campsite and have the use of the coach on Saturday evening and we will leave Edinburgh right after the tournament on Sunday. Please email me if you are interested. Dora Kemp Strange Blue McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 14:01:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17746 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17728 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from himiko.brunel.ac.uk (pp@himiko.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.108.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11449 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from empc-14.brunel.ac.uk by himiko.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP-BRUNEL (PP); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:59:55 +0100 From: Ultimate To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <19990531132026.62570.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:59:52 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.3 Build (39) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am trying to organise the freshers fayre for september/october and was wondering where I could get hold of an ultimate video and any other interesting ultimate stuff(posters and the like). Could anybody out there point me in the right direction? thanks Kevin Brunel Falcons Brunel University, UK Ultimate@brunel.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 14:01:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17897 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:01:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17885 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:01:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from himiko.brunel.ac.uk (pp@himiko.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.108.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11549 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:01:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from empc-14.brunel.ac.uk by himiko.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP-BRUNEL (PP); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:39 +0100 From: Ultimate To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <19990531132026.62570.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:00:36 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.3 Build (39) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am trying to organize the fresher's fair for September/October and was wondering where I could get hold of an ultimate video and any other interesting ultimate stuff(posters and the like). Could anybody out there point me in the right direction? thanks Kevin Brunel Falcons Brunel University, UK Ultimate@brunel.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 1 20:18:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27636 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:18:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27624 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:18:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22776 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:18:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-040.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.40]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA28441 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:15:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00bb01beac63$b1454800$28a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Ultimate growth Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:40:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim, No time for the full half hour argument - just read our proposal (attached) for turning the BUF into an association with individual membership fees and tell us what you think. I have also included proposals for how we should charge unwaged and student players. Money is spent on very dull things like leaflets, stamps, phone calls, etc, etc. It is true to say that as Ultimatum hasn't been forthcoming recently (shucks - the editor is a *volunteer*!) we have been considering lowering next year's affiliation fee to account for this. BTW, at most players pay something like £10 per year to the BUF via tournament tax and team affiliation fees (both of which could be abolished with individual membership) - is that expensive? Cheers Ben BUF Secretary =============================== Paying for Ultimate – A Proposal Ultimate is growing. In the last five years the number of teams in the UK has doubled, the standard of play has increased tremendously and the sport is beginning to be noticed. Perhaps because of its academic roots, the way it is run has not changed much from the ‘President – Secretary – Treasurer’ university sports club management style. This has kept the sport going for many years but is now beginning to let us down. To give them credit, the various BUF committees have given a lot of time and have all added their bit, but generally this has always been focused on the bare essentials; scheduling the major tournaments, administrating membership, etc. Through the following conversation with an imaginary (and somewhat cynical!) player we hope to persuade you that we have a viable proposal to shake up the whole organisation and run things properly. PLAYER: Why does the BUF never really seem to be doing anything for us except taking our money? BUF: Because the whole organisation is entirely run by volunteers who have their own careers and can’t always make Frisbee their number one priority. As it happens, the BUF officers do a lot of work behind the scenes. The committee regularly receives up to 30 letters and emails per day and has an unceasing stream of rule and regulation queries to deal with. Unfortunately this generally isn't very interesting work and mostly involves hassling other ultimate players, writing letters and licking stamps. As the sport grows (currently approximately 2000 players) the situation will only get worse. We believe the only way to solve this problem is to pay people to do the administration work and newsletter production so that the elected officers can concentrate on the development of the sport. PLAYER: How could the BUF ever afford to pay salaries? BUF: By becoming an association with individual membership just like other countries (e.g. the UPA in America.) PLAYER: Isn’t individual membership just making more work for the organisation? BUF. Individual membership would increase the work of the administrator but the benefits of having proper contact with every player in the country would make it worthwhile. The organisation would be able to communicate properly with all players and the opportunities for starting new teams and helping special interest groups (e.g. women or juniors) would be huge. Rostering of teams would become a lot easier with a proper national database of players. PLAYER: This means I would have to pay more money, doesn’t it? BUF: Yes, but then the sport is currently so cheap it is almost free. The average player pays about £10 per year to the BUF through team affiliation fees and tournament tax. We are suggesting an annual individual membership of, say, £25. This would allow us to abolish team fees and tournament tax completely. PLAYER: What would we get for our money? BUF: Most important of all is a regular newsletter posted to all members. Other individual benefits could include individual personal accident insurance and cheap discs. For the good of the sport there would be someone running the national organisation properly so that enquiries are dealt with, information is provided, initiatives are supported and players are kept informed. Our national teams could be supported properly with maybe some financial assistance in the future. We could maintain contact with players who move or graduate and need to find or start new teams. In general, direct correspondence from the organisation rather than through team contacts would improve communication immensely. PLAYER: Who is going to police association membership at tournaments? BUF: Clearly the association would have to make sure that players at official tournaments were all fully paid members. With the increasing requirement for team rosters at tournaments it would be difficult for people to slip the net. In any case, we think most players would want to become members in order to receive the benefits mentioned above. PLAYER: What about students and junior players who cannot afford individual membership? BUF: It may be best to let these groups continue under the current team affiliation set-up. Apart from anything else, trying to keep in contact with individual student members would be very difficult. One idea might be to give these groups a bit more autonomy from the main national organisation. This is beginning to happen quite naturally now anyway as student ultimate becomes larger and more organised whilst the non-student teams are playing at a higher level. PLAYER: When might this happen? BUF: This is up to you. If the consensus on this proposal is positive then there is no reason why we should not consider going ahead within the next twelve months. The BUF is not going to make this happen unless it has the full support of players at all levels. It is likely that we might hold some sort of referendum for teams to make the final decision. The purpose of this letter is just to spark debate and gauge peoples’ feelings on the organisation of the sport in this country. We must have input from players to make this get off the ground. Please contact us with your comments suggestions or questions:- British Ultimate Federation buf@ultimateweb.co.uk 0116 2559638 PO Box 1 Swan House Leicester LE9 5ZW QUICK SUMMARY: The Federation is replaced with an Association of individual members who pay a single annual fee. The Association communicates directly with players Members receive individual benefits such as a regular newsletter posted to them and personal accident insurance. The Association employs people to produce the newsletter and deal with the administration tasks. ==================================== Impact of the Association Proposal on Student Ultimate Despite the increasing number of Open division teams, University clubs still represent the largest division of the BUF. They are also still the place where the majority of our recruitment is achieved. If our organisation is to become an association with individual membership then making the proposal acceptable to students is absolutely critical. What I would like from you is some serious thought on what would be workable and what you feel your players would realistically be able to afford. Please try to keep in mind that this is not meant to be an opportunity to lobby for smaller fees for students – we would all like to pay less! Remember this is your organisation and we are asking you to decide how it can meet your needs fairly. To put the suggested new fees in context, compare them with the £10 or so that many players already pay to the BUF every year via a combination of Team Subs and Tournament Tax. The current system: It is clear that the current flat-rate team affiliation fee is unfair to small clubs (student or otherwise). It is also particularly harsh on those - usually smaller - university clubs who don’t have the financial backing of their Sports Unions. This is something which individual membership would counter. Proposed charges for individual membership: The general idea is to have a Full Membership fee of around £25 which would be payable by all waged association members. It was also suggested that there might be a lower ‘unwaged’ fee which would convey some or all of the benefits and rights of Full Membership (e.g. Ultimatum, personal accident insurance, voting rights, etc) and would probably cost a reasonable proportion of the Full Membership. The thought was that student players would be expected to pay this unwaged fee. Players’ initial reactions: When we first publicised the proposal, we expected most student players to be against having to pay anything approaching the full membership fee. We were also of the opinion that student teams might want to remain in some sort of affiliation system rather than all having to have individual membership. However from recent correspondence it has become apparent that these two assumptions were not entirely correct. Many student players said they would be willing to pay something approaching full membership rates, in order to get all the accompanying benefits. Several clubs also said that they thought their unions would still be willing to contribute to their individual fees. Charging new recruits: As almost everyone who responded has pointed out, we cannot charge even an unwaged membership fee to new recruits (e.g. fresher’s fair recruits) as this would be totally counterproductive. On the other hand we cannot afford to go dishing out virtually free membership if we are to cover the costs of an association Administrator and producing Ultimatum. Having had further conversations with players here are three further ideas which might resolve this issue:- Idea 1: Reduced Membership The association levies a small (e.g. £1 per player) annual fee on university teams. This ‘Reduced Membership’ would not provide the same benefits or rights as proper membership but would allow players to compete in a limited number of tournaments (perhaps not Tour or Nationals) and could pay for a limited number of Ultimatum newsletters to be posted to the club main contact address. Individual members of clubs could of course upgrade to proper Unwaged Membership at anytime. Idea 2: Free Temporary Membership All new recruits are entitled to free Full Membership for the first few months (how many?). They would be sent at least one free copy of Ultimatum and would be able to play in any events they wanted. Once this period had elapsed they would be required to pay the unwaged fee in full. Given that most of the drop-off in recruits from Fresher's Fair occurs before Christmas it would seem that a Free Temporary Membership period of around three or four months might be reasonable. One particular benefit from this system is that Ultimatum landing on doormats could well help retain waverers who might otherwise disappear. Idea 3: A Hybrid of the above two Some system whereby new recruits can get a temporary free membership and can then go on to pay a Reduced Membership for the rest of the year without the Full Membership benefits. There may be a danger with temporary membership in that players may be less willing to pay fees after the relative bonanza at fresher's fair. However if this were timed to coincide with the beginning of spring term then this problem might be avoided. In either case the move to individual contact with players will give added benefits to joining clubs and will also provide the organisation with a substantial list of people to mailshot when they graduate. Some of you may have some entirely different ideas as to how to go about charging student players. Please let us hear them. Some immediate questions which need answering: Q. Will certain ‘fun-only’ clubs be totally against their members having to pay anything like the full membership fee? Q. Will the majority of the more serious student players sign up for Full (or at least unwaged) Membership or will we end up with large numbers of ‘freebie’ student members paying virtually nothing to the organisation? Q. Will individual membership harm or promote student clubs’ financial support from their unions? Q. How long does it take to get new players hooked? What we need from you: Please discuss these ideas at your meeting. There is no pressing need to come up with concrete decisions at this stage but any ideas or constraints on what would be viable would be very helpful. To reiterate, this is not an opportunity to bargain for fee prices. We need everyone to be flexible as we don’t yet know how much an association would cost to run. As most of you have been hooked on Ultimate for several years, please also try to consider the possibilities from the point of view of a brand new recruit. As usually, all feedback will be gratefully received: British Ultimate Federation buf@ultimateweb.co.uk 0116 2559638 PO Box 1 Swan House Leicester LE9 5ZW Regards, The British Ultimate Federation Committee From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 2 12:07:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13774 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:06:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13765 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:06:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18787 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:06:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pf4s12a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.140.245] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10p8qc-0001Iw-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:06:15 +0100 Message-ID: <001701beace7$d908ad80$f58c93c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Tour IV Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:51:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEACEE.3C2675E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEACEE.3C2675E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To BD, paper packs for Tour IV in Southampton will be released this weekend = at the tour. The cost will be GBP 80, and the checks are made payable = to "S.U. Frisbee". If you don't want to pay us there then the closing = date for entry is Friday 19th June. Posting address shown below: Iain Roberts 38 Church Lane Highfield Southampton SO17 1SZ Cheers Iain Skunks ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEACEE.3C2675E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    paper packs for = Tour IV in=20 Southampton will be released this weekend at the tour.  The cost = will be=20 GBP 80, and the checks are made payable to "S.U. = Frisbee".  If=20 you don't want to pay us there then the closing date for entry is Friday = 19th=20 June.  Posting address shown below:
 
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Iain
Skunks
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEACEE.3C2675E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 2 17:31:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22549 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:30:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22536 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:30:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from wsa-dns.wsatkins.co.uk (wsa.wsatkins.co.uk [193.117.23.130]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08494 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:30:22 +0100 (BST) Received: by wsa-dns.wsatkins.co.uk with ESMTP from TELFORD (telford.wsatkins.co.uk [10.126.2.253]) id RAA00588 for (3.2/3.2); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from WS_ATKINS-3/SpoolDir by TELFORD (Mercury 1.21); 2 Jun 99 17:32:39 BST Received: from SpoolDir by WS_ATKINS-3 (Mercury 1.30); 2 Jun 99 17:32:20 BST From: "Tom Supple" Organization: ws atkins To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:32:13 BST Subject: Mag-Severn Results..... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Flags whistling in the wind, thick crusty bread with the bacon butties & views of the castle.... were all part of this fledgling tourney in Shrewsbury. Amazingly the weather held (a few radiation burns as proof) & though it was blustery everyone was able to play some good spirited games. The results are shown below: 1/ Chicken Sanchez All Stars (Overall winners) 2/ ChevRush --------------------------------------- 3/ Blue Arsed Flies 4/ Overflow (GB Masters) 5/ Superfly 6/ Gael Force --------------------------------------- 7/ Twin Peaks (Plate winners) 8/ Floating Bloke (Spirit winners) 9/ No Frills 10/ Slipped Disc Thanks to everyone who came. We really enjoyed seeing you all out there, both on the field & out at the party. And... maybe, just maybe it might happen again. cheers Tom & Jack (& the rest of the Shrews. crew) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 3 10:03:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07943 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:02:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07934 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:02:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06663 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:02:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-43.bromine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.17.43] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10pTNx-0000QQ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:02:01 +0100 From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Accommodation - Tour 3 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:00:56 +0100 Message-ID: <01bead9f$9722d400$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEADA7.F8E73C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEADA7.F8E73C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is still looking for accommodation for Tour 3, Marc = (Headrush/Druids) has rented a fantastic apartment for the weekend and = due to last minute problems, has a couple of spaces available for Friday = and Saturday night. The cost should be around 15 GBP per night. I believe the place is fully kitted out with kitchen, bathroom, lounge, = etc. so if you fancy living in luxury for the weekend, email me or give = Marc a call for more details on 07771 955 289. Ben SuperFly Ultimate big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEADA7.F8E73C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If anyone is still looking for = accommodation for=20 Tour 3, Marc (Headrush/Druids) has rented a fantastic apartment for the = weekend=20 and due to last minute problems, has a couple of spaces available for = Friday and=20 Saturday night. The cost should be around 15 GBP per night.
 
I believe the place is fully kitted = out with=20 kitchen, bathroom, lounge, etc. so = if you=20 fancy living in luxury for the weekend, email me or give Marc a call for = more=20 details on 07771 955 289.
 
Ben
SuperFly Ultimate
big_boy@super-fly.frees= erve.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEADA7.F8E73C00-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 3 16:28:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03659 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:26:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03618 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:26:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29000 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:26:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01587 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:26:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from lr40.pub.brad.ac.uk (rslack@richj31lR40.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.132]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA04574 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:27:07 +0100 (BST) From: richard slack Reply-To: R.Slack@Bradford.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: 19th June: The Ultimate Day Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:26:39 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA03621 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hullo Britdisc, Bradford here - hope you're well. I'm fine. Good. Just a final call for the 19th June all dayer in Hyde Park, LEEDS - sponsored dawn till dusk Ultimate with ALL proceeds to Marie Curie Cancer Care (only £20 per team / £3 per pick-up). Please contact ASAP for more info or see the BUF diary. - The whole park is ours for the day and it should be a giggle. Headrush, UTI etc also welcome. >yawn< ---------------------- Richard Slack rslack@bradford.ac.uk 7 Edmund St BRADFORD BD5 0BH. (01274) 732078. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 3 18:25:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25689 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:24:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25681 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:24:09 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart_Mullinger@stratus.com Received: from mailhub.stratus.com (mailhub.stratus.com [134.111.1.14]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12325 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:24:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from ec.stratus.com (ec.stratus.com [198.115.31.16]) by mailhub.stratus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16024; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by ec.stratus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01524; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:19:18 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:19:12 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Tour III MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk CC: reeves_nik@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Tour" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tour" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The teams entered for tour III are: 1 UTI 2 Chevron AF 3 Catch 22 4 Fluid Druids 5 Dough Boy 6 Blue Arse Flies 7 Red 8 First Touch 9 S.O.U.P. 10 Nightfever 11 Strange Blue 12 Phat Eds 13 Bliss 14 SMUDGE 15 Wyld Stallyns 16 MM Janitors 17 Whiplash 18 Gael Force 19 BAF Too 20 Skunks 21 Twin Peaks 22 Slipdisc 23 Sneeeky's 24 Albatross 25 Deep Blue 26 Shooting Stars 27 Falling Skies 28 Fingers 6 Captains Meeting will be at 9am, with first games for the top 8 at 9:30am. The other games will start at 10am. For those arriving early enough on Friday evening we will be in the Physician and Firkin opposite the Commonwealth Pool (see directions from the city centre below) from 9pm until 1am. Details of the party on Saturday night will be provided on Saturday. Maps were sent out with the invites. The pitches are at the Jack Kane Centre, Niddrie. This is on the east side of the city. Approaching the city from the A1: Leave the A1 at the Newcraighall/Niddrie(A6085/A6095) exit and turn left towards Niddrie. Kinnaird Park Shopping Centre is at this junction, it has a Mega Bowl and UCI. Go straight ahead at the crossroads with The Wisp and Duddingston Park South. The Jack Kane Centre is then signposted on your left. >From the city centre: North Bridge is the bridge at the east end of Princes Street, over the railway station. Get on this and head south for about a mile and a half. Pass the Odeon Cinema on your right and go straight over the next set of lights. At the following set of lights turn left onto East Preston Street, the Wine Glass pub is on the corner. Go to the end of this road and turn right onto Dalkeith Road. The pub we are meeting at on Friday night is the Physician and Firkin and is on your right. Head down the hill until you get to a large funny-shaped roundabout. Take the first left, which should be Peffermill Road. Follow this road for 2/3 miles and you will find the Jack Kane Centre signposted on your right. If you get to the A1 then you've gone too far (see above). See you all there, Stuart. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 3 18:30:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26824 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:30:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26811 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:30:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13123 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:30:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from p07s06a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.134.8] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10pbJv-0006ii-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:30:23 +0100 Message-ID: <001201beade6$aae573c0$088693c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Tour IV invitation Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:28:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEADEE.E8328800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEADEE.E8328800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BUF Ultim8 Tour 1999 Tour IV Southampton 26th & 27th June 1999 Dear Team, Skunks would like to invite you to the only tour event south of London. Entry Procedure The entry fee for the event is =A380 per team. First teams will get = priority when applications are put in, should there be any spaces then = second teams will be included in the order that they were received. = Please send a cheque payable to S.U.Frisbee and send to the address = below. Only teams that have paid their =A315 BUF tax for this event can enter. = If you have not done so then please pay this to Dora Kemp separately. All entries to the event should be with us no later than Friday 20th = June. We only have space for 32 teams, so don=92t hang around. Of course = if you have your cheque books available at Tour III then we=92ll = gratefully accept all your cheques, cash or otherwise. Venue The tournament will be held at two university sports grounds about 5 = minutes walk apart. The first is the traditional Southampton Outdoors = site at The Wellington sports ground; the other is Wide Lane sports = ground. There will be 10 pitches marked and coned, and games discs will be = provided for each pitch/team.=20 There are plenty of changing and showering facilities in the Wellington = Sports Pavilion. Hot and cold food and drinks will be provided in the = canteen and the bar should be open all day. There will be a paramedic on standby at the main site in case of = emergency. Sports massage facilities will also be available all weekend. Accommodation As is traditional for Southampton Outdoors camping is provided on-site = for Friday and Saturday night, with incredibly close proximity to the = party held in the pavilion. Enclosed is a list of hotels, hostels and = B&B=92s in Southampton. For food and non-party entertainment Skunks social secretary recommends = going into the city where they have a whole world of cuisine and plenty = of pubs and clubs. Getting back to the ground could be a problem though = =96 taxis from town will cost a lot and there is no regular bus service = direct to the ground. Transport Enclosed should be a map of the university sports facilities. Arriving by car Definitely the easiest method. You have to go on the M27 = from virtually any direction. From the M27 take junction 5 (signed = Airport) and on the roundabout take the exit marked towards Chandlers = Ford and Sports Grounds. (Eastbound this is the 1st exit on roundabout, = Westbound it is the 3rd exit). Follow this road up and take the first = left-hand turn into Stoneham Lane. Follow this for a few hundred meters = go past the church on your right and Wellington Sports ground is just = after the church. Please park close together in the car park because = there is only limited room. Arrival by Air, Rail or bus It=92s probably easiest to contact us = directly for information as there is no direct public transport route as = far as I know. The closest train station is Airport Parkway, this is = next to the airport and a taxi is probably the easiest route to getting = to the ground. Contact Details If you require any further information then please don=92t hesitate to = contact us: E-mail=20 Iain Roberts=96 iain2@ministryofsound.net Will Parker - wp296@ecs.soton.ac.uk Skunks mailing list - frisbee@soton.ac.uk Iain Roberts 38 Church Lane Highfield Southampton SO17 1SZ Tel: - 01703 368605 Or find me playing for Skunks in Edinburgh (number 35). ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEADEE.E8328800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

BUF Ultim8 Tour 1999

Tour IV

Southampton

26th & 27th June 1999

Dear Team,

Skunks would like to invite you to the only tour event south of=20 London.

Entry Procedure

The entry fee for the event is £80 per team. First teams will = get=20 priority when applications are put in, should there be any spaces then = second=20 teams will be included in the order that they were received. Please send = a=20 cheque payable to S.U.Frisbee and send to the address below.

Only teams that have paid their £15 BUF tax for this event can = enter.=20 If you have not done so then please pay this to Dora Kemp = separately.

All entries to the event should be with us no later than Friday=20 20th June. We only have space for 32 teams, so don’t = hang=20 around. Of course if you have your cheque books available at Tour III = then=20 we’ll gratefully accept all your cheques, cash or = otherwise.

Venue

The tournament will be held at two university sports grounds about 5 = minutes=20 walk apart. The first is the traditional Southampton Outdoors site at = The=20 Wellington sports ground; the other is Wide Lane sports ground.

There will be 10 pitches marked and coned, and games discs will be = provided=20 for each pitch/team.

There are plenty of changing and showering facilities in the = Wellington=20 Sports Pavilion. Hot and cold food and drinks will be provided in the = canteen=20 and the bar should be open all day.

There will be a paramedic on standby at the main site in case of = emergency.=20 Sports massage facilities will also be available all weekend.

Accommodation

As is traditional for Southampton Outdoors camping is provided = on-site for=20 Friday and Saturday night, with incredibly close proximity to the party = held in=20 the pavilion. Enclosed is a list of hotels, hostels and B&B’s = in=20 Southampton.

For food and non-party entertainment Skunks social secretary = recommends going=20 into the city where they have a whole world of cuisine and plenty of = pubs and=20 clubs. Getting back to the ground could be a problem though – = taxis from=20 town will cost a lot and there is no regular bus service direct to the=20 ground.

Transport

Enclosed should be a map of the university sports facilities.

Arriving by car Definitely the easiest method. You have to go on = the M27=20 from virtually any direction. From the M27 take junction 5 (signed = Airport) and=20 on the roundabout take the exit marked towards Chandlers Ford and Sports = Grounds. (Eastbound this is the 1st exit on roundabout, = Westbound it=20 is the 3rd exit). Follow this road up and take the first = left-hand=20 turn into Stoneham Lane. Follow this for a few hundred meters go past = the church=20 on your right and Wellington Sports ground is just after the church. = Please park=20 close together in the car park because there is only limited = room.

Arrival by Air, Rail or bus It’s probably easiest to = contact us=20 directly for information as there is no direct public transport route as = far as=20 I know. The closest train station is Airport Parkway, this is next to = the=20 airport and a taxi is probably the easiest route to getting to the=20 ground.

Contact Details

If you require any further information then please don’t = hesitate to=20 contact us:

E-mail

Iain Roberts– iain2@ministryofsound.net

Will Parker - wp296@ecs.soton.ac.uk

Skunks mailing list - frisbee@soton.ac.uk

Iain Roberts

38 Church Lane

Highfield

Southampton

SO17 1SZ

Tel: - 01703 368605

Or find me playing for Skunks in Edinburgh (number=20 35).

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEADEE.E8328800-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 4 12:17:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28668 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:15:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28652 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:15:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail13.svr.pol.co.uk (mail13.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.24]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07579 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:15:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-27.prozac.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.85.27] helo=default) by mail13.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10prwM-0006MT-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:15:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000001beae79$e30cdf20$1b55883e@default> From: "Darth Maul" To: Subject: Pickup's wanted Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:02:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEAE82.19A3CFA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEAE82.19A3CFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there anyone out there that would like to play for Fingers 6 this = weekend in Edinburgh, we would like a couple of players. Playing ironman = is not what I call a fun weekend, please help you are our only hope. If = anyone does want to, just come and find us on the Saturday morning. Cheers James F6..... ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEAE82.19A3CFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there anyone out there that would like to play = for Fingers=20 6 this weekend in Edinburgh, we would like a couple of players. Playing = ironman=20 is not what I call a fun weekend, please help you are our only = hope.  If=20 anyone does want to, just come and find us on the Saturday = morning.
 
Cheers James F6.....
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01BEAE82.19A3CFA0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 4 14:02:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20277 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:00:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20271 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:00:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk (euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk [138.250.48.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13179 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:00:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from cant022f.coa.cranfield.ac.uk ([138.250.72.22]) by euler.central.cranfield.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ptaO-00070Q-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:00:36 +0100 From: Aaron Altman Reply-To: A.Altman@cranfield.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate Frisbee Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:00:35 +0100 (British Summer Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Don't know if anyone else recieved this query as well, but I Thought I would pass it on to Britdisc since I think it would be better for British Ultimate if one of the enthusiastic and passionate people they interviewed had more of an English accent! Aaron --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:02:17 +0100 From: Helga Berry Subject: Ultimate Frisbee Sender: Helga Berry To: "'a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk'" Reply-To: Helga Berry Message-ID: I am working on a series of short films for BBC Knowledge channel covering a range of people and their life experiences or passions and am interested in finding people who would be able to talk on film for 60 seconds about their interest in frisbee and what they get out of the sport. Would you be able to supply me with a list of members of you federation in order for me to target some potential interviewees, I am looking for lively characters who really have a passion for the sport. Many thanks, Helga Berry Director New Media Unit BBC Birmingham x 28568 --- End Forwarded Message --- ======================================================================= Aaron Altman Cranfield University Alien Nation Ultimate ________ E-mail: a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk \____|________\ Phone: 011 44 1234 798 000 EXT 8862 / () D ) WWW URL: www.cranfield.ac.uk/~a.altman/aaron.htm /_ \ ________/_ | "Work like a dog, ~-_-~..~- (__________)> ) | Play like a dog" \_________/ "Highly Competitive play is encouraged, but never at the expense of the bond of mutual respect between players, adherence to the agreed upon rules of the game, or the basic joy of play" --------> Rules to live by! ======================================================================== From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 07:49:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15074 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15068 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08927 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id HAA14049 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199906070647.HAA14049@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 12th June 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Email D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 10:57:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08897 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:56:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08874 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA27327 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:55:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 5613 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 09:55:46 -0000 Received: from dyn206-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.206) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 09:55:45 -0000 Message-ID: <375B96DC.F3C1DC33@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:54:36 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" Subject: Paganello99 Photo Award Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ciao Beach Ultimate Lovers! Things are getting ready for the 1st Paganello Photo Award. If you were at Paganello99 and have some cool pictures you would like to submit for the competition, this is your last chance. Let me remind you the prizes: Grand Prize: Free stay for 2 at PaganelloY2K. And the picture will become the PaganelloY2K poster. Runner-Ups (2 of them): Free stay at PaganelloY2K for 1 person. Your picture will become the cover of "The Roar of The Talking Fish" and of the Paganello Web Site (http://www.paganello.com/). The three winning pictures will also become Ultilinks' Pictures of The Month. The pictures are divided into three categories: The Sport (19 pics. submitted), Freestyle (17 pics submitted) and The Paganello Village (only 7 pics submitted). So go ahead and scan your pictures at 300 DPI, save them as JPGs and email them to us at pictures@paganello.com ! You only have three days left before the online voting starts! Ciao, Peldi ----- The 1st Paganello Photo Award is sponsored by Ultilinks, the Ultimate Starting Point: http://www.ultilinks.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 11:37:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16779 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:36:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16767 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:36:26 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart_Mullinger@stratus.com Received: from mailhub.stratus.com (mailhub.stratus.com [134.111.1.14]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09774 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:36:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from ec.stratus.com (ec.stratus.com [198.115.31.16]) by mailhub.stratus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02519 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by ec.stratus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24314 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:31:33 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:31:25 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Tour III Results MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Tour" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tour" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hope you all made it home safely last night. Here's confirmation of the results, a fuller tournament report will follow. 1. UTI 2. Dough Boy 3. Chevron Action Flash 4. Catch 22 5. Red 6. SOUP 7. Fluid Druids 8. Strange Blue 9. Blue Arse Flies 10. Nightfever 11. Phat 'eds (Spirit) 12. First Touch 13. Wyld Stallyns 14. Bliss 15. Whiplash 16. Mild Mannered Janitors 17. Skunks 18. Gael Force 19. Blue Arse Flies Too 20. SMUDGE 21. Fingers 6 22. Twin Peaks 23. Sneeeky's 24. Albatross 25. Slipdisc 26. Shooting Stars 27. Falling Skies 28. Deep Blue Thanks everyone for coming. Stuart. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 11:40:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17490 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:39:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17479 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:39:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from web901.mail.yahoo.com (web901.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.76]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA10005 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:39:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990607103655.20571.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.190] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 03:36:55 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: CATCH TWENTY TWO Subject: Ultimatum Article To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A statement from Catch 22: The Article that was printed in the latest issue of Ultimatum regarding Catch 22's victory at National's last year was produced by one of it's individual memebers and not collectively by the team. As such the views and ideas express do not accurately portray those of the team but rather those of the author. Catch 22 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 12:13:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24624 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:11:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24608 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:11:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12323 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:11:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-81.name7.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.163.81] helo=roger) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10qxJI-0008F5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:11:21 +0100 Message-ID: <004401beb0d6$622eb270$02010180@roger.kbw.co.uk> Reply-To: "Pete Harvey" From: "Pete Harvey" To: Subject: Re: Ultimatum Article Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:10:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk yeah and we know where you live, Lanky -----Original Message----- From: CATCH TWENTY TWO To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 07 June 1999 11:40 Subject: Ultimatum Article >A statement from Catch 22: >The Article that was printed in the latest issue of >Ultimatum regarding Catch 22's victory at National's >last year was produced by one of it's individual >memebers and not collectively by the team. As such the >views and ideas express do not accurately portray >those of the team but rather those of the author. > >Catch 22 >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 12:25:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27763 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:24:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27746 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:24:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from kiwi.mail.easynet.net (kiwi.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13329 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:24:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from fig.mail.easynet.net (fig.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.46]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6499CD928 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:24:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 19400 invoked from network); 7 Jun 1999 11:24:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO SLWKS024) (212.212.161.11) by fig.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 1999 11:24:46 -0000 X-Sender: simon.norris@mail.virgin.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Simon Norris Subject: London sunday game Message-Id: <19990607112446.6499CD928@kiwi.mail.easynet.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:24:46 +0100 (BST) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There is an open practice on Sundays at Hyde Park starting at about 2.00, which will run for the rest of the summer. Anyone is welcome. Location is next to the Albert Memorial, nearest station High St Kensington or South Kensington. If you want any more info, please drop me a line. cheers Simon FT From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 13:12:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08251 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:11:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08240 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps1.leeds.ac.uk (mps1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17323 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (south-02.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.2]) by mps1.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29358; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:11:02 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199906071211.NAA29358@mps1.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H12/SpoolDir by south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 Jun 99 13:10:48 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H12 (Mercury 1.45); 7 Jun 99 13:10:39 GMT0BST From: "J.Chewins" Organization: University of Leeds To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:10:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Liverpool Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a long shot but i thought it would be worth a go.I will be in Liverpool next year (sept 99) as a student and as such i am going to attempt to introduce the sport of ultimate to the Mersey community. Will anyone with experience of Ultimate (even people who have only chucked around before) be living around that area and if so, would it be possible to give me a hand to teach some people to play. Also if any ultimate players know students in Liverpool who are interested in playing, please ask them to get in touch. Thanks for reading and any help is appreciated. Cheers Chewy Reply to this E mail until 11-6-99. E mail BusJChew@Livjm.ac.uk after mid september. Tel 0117 9573899 anytime inbetween!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 13:29:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11949 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:28:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11938 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:28:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16933 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:28:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from dundee-dj.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.201]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10qyVU-0005OX-01; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:28:00 +0100 Received: from DUNDEE-DJ/SpoolDir by dundee-dj.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 Jun 99 13:27:30 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-DJ (Mercury 1.44); 7 Jun 99 13:27:16 +0 From: "Evelyn Kenwell" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:27:07 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Jester ?? CC: "Evelyn Kenwell" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a contact number for Jester ( Shooting Stars/ SOUP)?? Strange it may seem , but we don't ! He left his jacket with us, and will probably need it for London. Please get in contact if you can help. Elaine V-Capt Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 14:05:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20551 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:03:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20531 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:03:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24998 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:03:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (south-02.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.2]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28514 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:03:36 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199906071303.OAA28514@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H12/SpoolDir by south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 Jun 99 14:03:22 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H12 (Mercury 1.45); 7 Jun 99 14:03:07 GMT0BST From: "J.Chewins" Organization: University of Leeds To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:02:52 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Headrush Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for cluttering Britdisc with personal requests, this one is for anyone from Headrush. I am going to be in Bristol from next week and want to keep my fitness together for the tours while i'm at home. Would it be possible for to give me your practice times and places (i think you play on the downs?) so that i can come along to train. Please reply to this address until 11-6-99, after that tel 0117 9573899. Thanks Chewy MMJ, Jedi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 17:23:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00604 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:22:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10157 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:33:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27901 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:33:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from dundee-dj.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.201]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10r0T2-0007Be-00; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:33:36 +0100 Received: from DUNDEE-DJ/SpoolDir by dundee-dj.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 Jun 99 15:33:05 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-DJ (Mercury 1.44); 7 Jun 99 15:32:54 +0 From: "Evelyn Kenwell" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:32:53 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: for A.Wilson.... CC: "Evelyn Kenwell" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks for your assistance with the Jester disappearance. The e-mail was also amusing.....perfect for an incredibly long-awaited study break!! P.S. Who are you Andrew ? Elaine V-C. SS. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 17:24:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01003 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:23:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10195 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:33:49 +0100 (BST) From: helen.myers@deloitte.co.uk Received: from mail.deloitte.co.uk (mail.deloitte.co.uk [194.88.95.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04694 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:33:48 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:10:47 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour III Congratulations MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Secure Messaging /310000000/310102502/310102532/300490599/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA10197 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick note to say well done to Stu and all those who helped pull off Tour III. It was well worth the journey. Good pitches, good facilities and a great party! Shame about the weather for the last games but, I think a lot of people were expecting that for the entire weekend?! Love 'n' layouts, Aitch ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTICE. This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to IT.SECURITY.UK@deloitte.co.uk then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 17:33:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04317 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:33:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04305 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:33:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07195 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:33:08 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:13:36 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECEE6@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour III Congratulations Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:13:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Just a quick note to say well done to Stu and all those who > helped pull off Tour III. And an even bigger well done to DoughBoy for spanking Catch and Chevvy. Nice to see the established order isn't too established. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 18:30:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15822 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:29:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15814 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:29:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10125 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:29:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from p00s03a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.163.1] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10r3D5-0004MV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:29:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01beb10b$2af97260$01a393c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Unidentified Cheque Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:27:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEB113.7544F120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEB113.7544F120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi BD, could the person who handed someone in Skunks a personal cheque for = their teams entry into Tour IV contact me and tell me which team it's = for as there's no indication on the cheque itself. The printed name on = the cheque is "P N A M Prince" if that helps. Cheers Iain Skunks ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEB113.7544F120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi BD,
    could the person = who handed=20 someone in Skunks a personal cheque for their teams entry into Tour IV = contact=20 me and tell me which team it's for as there's no indication on the = cheque=20 itself.  The printed name on the cheque is "P N A M = Prince" if=20 that helps.
 
Cheers
 
Iain
Skunks
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BEB113.7544F120-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 10:00:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08654 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:59:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08645 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:59:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from europa.bton.ac.uk (europa.bton.ac.uk [194.83.112.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09694 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:59:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from alpha2.bton.ac.uk ([194.81.203.3]) by europa.bton.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rHjB-00021s-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:59:25 +0100 Received: from localhost by alpha2.bton.ac.uk (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/28Jul95-0212PM) id AA10649; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:59:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:59:25 +0100 (BST) From: Ali Findlay To: britdisc Subject: Merrick's new career Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Look's like Merrick has got a new career as a Blue Peter Presenter. Last night's programme saw him and the rest of Blue Arse Flies (although Blue Peter elected to call them BAF) running around the Blue Peter garden. He also showed the Presenter's the 3 basic throws. Good job guys. ALi MOhawks p.s I don't normally watch Blue Peter, I just flicked over and saw Merrick standing there. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 10:17:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12145 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:16:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12134 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:16:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07657 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:16:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.139.88] (helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10rHzZ-000IbI-0K; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:16:21 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:02:25 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E44522CB@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Ali Findlay'" , britdisc Subject: RE: Merrick's new career Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:02:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Not the first time Ultimate has been on the show either. I recall Shotgun doing their thing in the BBC car park a few years back. Who's going to make it a hat trick of appearances for Ultimate then? -----Original Message----- From: Ali Findlay [SMTP:A.Findlay@bton.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 9:59 AM To: britdisc Subject: Merrick's new career Look's like Merrick has got a new career as a Blue Peter Presenter. Last night's programme saw him and the rest of Blue Arse Flies (although Blue Peter elected to call them BAF) running around the Blue Peter garden. He also showed the Presenter's the 3 basic throws. Good job guys. ALi MOhawks p.s I don't normally watch Blue Peter, I just flicked over and saw Merrick standing there. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 10:52:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19419 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19413 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk ([194.247.225.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09845 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:47 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA17577 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:46 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.248.151) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma017573; Tue, 8 Jun 99 10:51:20 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BEB19C.D4071100@KEVIN>; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:14 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEB19C.D4071100@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Merrick's new career Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:48:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA19414 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good to see that Colin is playing his usual position, 2 steps behind the play. Just over a year ago, Flowering Garden played against Hurricanes in the Blue Peter garden. The result was over 200 enquiries, unfortunately most consisted of a picture entitled "me playing frisbee in the garden" by Alex, age 5 1/2. Anyway, I don't think we should draw attention to people's performances in front of millions in the name of Ultimate when they get 'let down' by the actions of their 'mates'. No offers of a hat trick of You Bet appearances I see. Kevin. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 11:19:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25313 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25299 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from sclon_2.seacontainers.com ([195.171.125.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11576 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from SCLON_2 [195.171.125.1] (HELO localhost) by sclon_2.seacontainers.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0J/2.0J BL25J listener) id 0000_005e_375c_ede7_a679; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:18:15 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEB1A0.3DAD3DC0.nick.dray@geseaco.com> From: Nick Dray Reply-To: "nick.dray@geseaco.com" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "Nightfever (E-mail)" Subject: Whiplash in Shock Buyout. Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:15:39 +0100 Organization: GE SeaCo X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tuesday 8th June, 11.12AM, London. (Reuters) It has been formally announced that NightFever, the south east based ultimate team have bought control of Whiplash Ultimate for a "nominal" sum. Representatives of NightFever met with Mr Mark Jefferson, acting on behalf on Whiplash, in Edinburgh on Friday 4th June. Negotiations were said to be brief, yet productive. The deal is thought to be the first of it's kind in ultimate, and means that Whiplash are now a wholey owned subsiduary of NightFever. A Nightfever spokesman said that the team were "delighted" with Friday's events, although stressed that no firm plans for the future of Whiplash had been determined. No statement has yet been issued by Whiplash. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 11:19:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25448 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25424 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from FIREWALL.target-systems.com (mail.target-systems.com [194.168.207.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20550 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from as400a.target-systems.com by FIREWALL.target-systems.com (IBM Firewall for AS/400/4.2.0) id LAA001.96; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:17:55 GMT Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:17:59 +0100 To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" From: "Darren Evans" X-From-OfficeVision: "Darren Evans" Importance: medium X-Mailer: IBM Internet Messaging Framework Message-Id: <928837079-0-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> X-MIME-Engine: v0.58 Subject: Re:RE: Merrick's new career MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <928837079-1-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA25428 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Kevin Lowe wrote:-) >>>>> No offers of a hat trick of You Bet appearances I see. ..Yeah but Kev, you and Jon were promoting 'Let's try and throw frisbees through letterboxes and miss' as opposed to Ultimate on 'you bet'!! Only Joking Two Hands Night Fever Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 11:25:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27546 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:24:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27530 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:24:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from FIREWALL.target-systems.com (mail.target-systems.com [194.168.207.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA12088 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:24:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from as400a.target-systems.com by FIREWALL.target-systems.com (IBM Firewall for AS/400/4.2.0) id LAA002.02; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:23:42 GMT Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:23:47 +0100 To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" From: "Darren Evans" X-From-OfficeVision: "Darren Evans" Importance: medium X-Mailer: IBM Internet Messaging Framework Message-Id: <928837427-0-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> X-MIME-Engine: v0.58 Subject: Re:[NightFever] Whiplash in Shock Buyout. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Id: <928837427-1-darren.evans@AS400A.TARGET-SYSTEMS.COM> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA27531 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk to Mark Jefferson to the tune of 'i am sailing' by Rod Stewart FEVER OWN YOU (Repeat to Fade!!!) Two Hands ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: [NightFever] Whiplash in Shock Buyout. Author: Nick Dray Date: 08/06/99 11:15 Tuesday 8th June, 11.12AM, London. (Reuters) It has been formally announced that NightFever, the south east based ultimate team have bought control of Whiplash Ultimate for a "nominal" sum. Representatives of NightFever met with Mr Mark Jefferson, acting on behalf on Whiplash, in Edinburgh on Friday 4th June. Negotiations were said to be brief, yet productive. The deal is thought to be the first of it's kind in ultimate, and means that Whiplash are now a wholey owned subsiduary of NightFever. A Nightfever spokesman said that the team were "delighted" with Friday's events, although stressed that no firm plans for the future of Whiplash had been determined. No statement has yet been issued by Whiplash. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Track your stocks and funds in a StockMaster portfolio. With easy setup, you get quotes, charts, and news for them all on just one page. No limits, fast loading, and FREE! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/238 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/fever http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 17:29:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24191 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:27:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24170 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:27:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from web601.mail.yahoo.com (web601.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.165]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05117 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:27:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990608162805.4033.rocketmail@web601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.50.160.188] by web601.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:28:05 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:28:05 -0700 (PDT) From: elin mehlin Subject: St. Andrews To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Female looking for coed spot on a team for worlds.Can play any position and willing to wear paint on face a la wallace ... or anywhere else. Resume includes worlds Japan 92, ntnls us 91 and 92(mstrs womens champs) numerous coed tourneys ...Potlatch in Seattle...Hawaiian hats(Maui,Kona,Hilo)...Uomodonnas in Tucson.. Lungbuster in Colorado...Poultry days 97...AND Worlds 98 with Where's Bob... Many others in a 13 year career as Flight Attendant/Ulti-player. Have money, time, desire will travel. Elin Mehlin Womens Sectional Coordinator-Desert section, U.S. U.P.A. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 20:59:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29255 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:57:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29241 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:57:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from orac.sunderland.ac.uk (orac.sunderland.ac.uk [157.228.12.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23748 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:57:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from dialin2-54.sunderland.ac.uk ([157.228.254.54] helo=sunderland.ac.uk) by orac.sunderland.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 10rS0J-0004Wr-00; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:57:48 +0100 Message-ID: <375D715F.662FBC90@sunderland.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 20:39:11 +0100 From: Chris Gibbs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: British Ultimate Federation CC: BRITDISC Subject: Re: Ultimate growth References: <00bb01beac63$b1454800$28a492c3@pii266> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm not going to claim that I express the opinions of anyone but myself, but it might happen that the BUF's proposals go ahead without any opinion being expressed at all. Please don't take my questions/opinions as being belligerent...if they spark further discussion then I'll be happy. Apologies in advance for the length (the quotes are from the BUF email if you need context) > ..... Perhaps because of its academic roots, the way > it is run has not changed much from the ‘President – Secretary – Treasurer’ > university sports club management style. This has kept the sport going for > many years but is now beginning to let us down. Who is this 'management style' letting down? If, as you say later on, that university clubs represent the largest division of the BUF, then are you really expecting to change the way uni societies/clubs are run? > PLAYER: How could the BUF ever afford to pay salaries? > > BUF: By becoming an association with individual membership just like other > countries (e.g. the UPA in America.) > Why is there a connection being made between the way the BUF is structured and its ability to pay salaries? Surely the ability to pay salaries is dependent only on income. > > ... Individual membership would increase the work of the administrator but > the benefits of having proper contact with every player in the country would > make it worthwhile. The organisation would be able to communicate properly > with all players and the opportunities for starting new teams and helping > special interest groups (e.g. women or juniors) would be huge. Rostering of > teams would become a lot easier with a proper national database of players. ....similarly, is it not possible to keep a database of players and keep in contact with them without changing to individual membership? > PLAYER: What would we get for our money? > > BUF: Most important of all is a regular newsletter posted to all members. > Other individual benefits could include individual personal accident > insurance and cheap discs. > I actually think that this is similar to a very important question: What do players actually *want* from the BUF (or whatever it might become)? Personally, I could happily live without a printed copy of Ultimatum. I have no need for insurance (famous last words?!), and discs aren't that expensive are they? The one thing that I would want from the BUF is information: Details of tournaments and details of other players (nothing too personal!). The cost of maintaining the information base and publishing it (using emails and www to keep it low?) is perhaps where our money should go. > ... Clearly the association would have to make sure that players at > official tournaments were all fully paid members. With the increasing > requirement for team rosters at tournaments it would be difficult for people > to slip the net. In any case, we think most players would want to become > members in order to receive the benefits mentioned above. I personally think that this is a little naive. If you fancy playing for a team at a tournament, would there really be anything stopping you from doing so? > > PLAYER: What about students and junior players who cannot afford individual > membership? > > BUF: It may be best to let these groups continue under the current team > affiliation set-up. Apart from anything else, trying to keep in contact with > individual student members would be very difficult. One idea might be to > give these groups a bit more autonomy from the main national organisation. > This is beginning to happen quite naturally now anyway as student ultimate > becomes larger and more organised whilst the non-student teams are playing > at a higher level. Are we not at risk of introducing more complication if there is a different administration style for junior/student teams to that for other teams....and what if you're a (cliched) 'poor student' and you want to play for an open team? Finally, with regard to paying fees, isn't it logical that you pay according to how much involvement you have. Some players may only play in say two/three tournaments a year. Would £25 for this (and the newsletter telling them about tournaments they didn't go to) appeal? Here's a suggestion: the BUF runs the info service, and represents Ultimate to outsiders. Players wanting to be registered pay a nominal charge. This service should be well-advertised to students who have played at uni and are moving on... ...and if you don't believe it can be done for a nominal fee, then check out the sixdegrees website (www.sixdegrees.com) for an example of free information exchange...its reliant on advertising and the input of its members (it even has an Ultimate discussion group). Just think what companies might want to advertise to young, athletic graduates. A newsletter could be published online if popular enough...find a friend with a printer for hard copies. If you attend a tournament, you (and your team members) pay the entry fees, and the organisers cover their costs. If the BUF is partly responsible for a tournament, then it gets a part of the cash raised. Student/junior teams (with official school/university recognition) get a reduced rate? OK, I've gone on for way too long, but if you've read this far, then you're probably a player who actually gives a toss. As usual, all opinions are my own...blah, blah etc. chris ex-Petroleum now looking for folks in Newcastle/Sunderland who want to play this summer....and with no idea if there's anyone out there. ps cheers to all responsible for organising tour III in edinburgh From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 21:15:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01880 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:14:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01858 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:14:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13942 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:14:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-54.name1.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.160.54] helo=default) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rSFD-0003Vc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:13:12 +0100 Message-ID: <001101beb1eb$76603500$36a0883e@default> Reply-To: "Wayne Retter" From: "Wayne Retter" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Tour Ranking after Tour III Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:11:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEB1F3.7CCE0B80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEB1F3.7CCE0B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tour Ranking after Tour III Note: this is NOT the seeding for Tour IV Rank Team Name Total =20 1 U.T.I. 722 =20 2=3D Catch 22 682 =20 2=3D Chevron Action Flash 682 =20 4 Dough Boy 645 =20 5 Fluid Druids 572 =20 6 Blue Arse Flies 557 =20 7 Red 548 =20 8 S.O.U.P. 530 =20 9 First Touch 442 =20 10 Nightfever 432 =20 11 Strange Blue 410 =20 12 Headrush 340 =20 13 Wyld Stallyns 320 =20 14 Phat 'Eds 276 =20 15 Bliss (W) 263 =20 16 Skunks 251 =20 17 Smudge 236 =20 18 Whiplash 235 =20 19 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 215 =20 20 Mild Mannered Janitors (C) 206 =20 21 Blue Arse Flies Too (C) 174 =20 22 Gael Force (C) 168 =20 23 Sharks 162 =20 24 Twin Peaks (W) 128 =20 25 Jedi 114 =20 26 Pookas 110 =20 27 Albatross 82 =20 28 Slipdisc 74 =20 29 Fingers 6 64 =20 30 Sneeeky's 40 =20 31 Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) 33 =20 32 Red II 25 =20 33 Shooting Stars 20 =20 34 Superfly 15 =20 35 Falling Skies 13 =20 36 Deep Blue 7 =20 37 Hurricane 6 =20 38 Phat Fingers 5 =20 39 Picnic 0 =20 --- BUF Ultim8 Tour Committee u8c@egroups.com postmaster@ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEB1F3.7CCE0B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tour Ranking after Tour III
 
Note: this is NOT the seeding for Tour IV
 

Rank

Team Name

Total

1

U.T.I.

722

2=3D

Catch 22

682

2=3D

Chevron Action Flash

682

4

Dough Boy

645

5

Fluid Druids

572

6

Blue Arse Flies

557

7

Red

548

8

S.O.U.P.

530

9

First Touch

442

10

Nightfever

432

11

Strange Blue

410

12

Headrush

340

13

Wyld Stallyns

320

14

Phat 'Eds

276

15

Bliss (W)

263

16

Skunks

251

17

Smudge

236

18

Whiplash

235

19

Mohawk Mwnci Magic

215

20

Mild Mannered Janitors (C)

206

21

Blue Arse Flies Too (C)

174

22

Gael Force (C)

168

23

Sharks

162

24

Twin Peaks (W)

128

25

Jedi

114

26

Pookas

110

27

Albatross

82

28

Slipdisc

74

29

Fingers 6

64

30

Sneeeky's

40

31

Bruce Lee Dragons (nee = K-Niggets)

33

32

Red II

25

33

Shooting Stars

20

34

Superfly

15

35

Falling Skies

13

36

Deep Blue

7

37

Hurricane

6

38

Phat Fingers

5

39

Picnic

0

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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEB1F3.7CCE0B80-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 8 21:15:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01875 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:14:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01843 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:14:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25060 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:14:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-54.name1.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.160.54] helo=default) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rSFA-0003Vc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:13:09 +0100 Message-ID: <001001beb1eb$74a42d20$36a0883e@default> Reply-To: "Wayne Retter" From: "Wayne Retter" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Tour III - Ranking Points Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:06:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEB1F2.BEC16560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEB1F2.BEC16560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Points awarded for Tour III, Edinburgh: Position Team Name Points =20 1 U.T.I. 250 =20 2 Dough Boy 230 =20 3 Chevron Action Flash 222 =20 4 Catch 22 210 =20 5 Red 205 =20 6 S.O.U.P. 190 =20 7 Fluid Druids 181 =20 8 Strange Blue 170 =20 9 Blue Arse Flies 162 =20 10 Nightfever 150 =20 11 Phat 'Eds 141 =20 12 First Touch 130 =20 13 Wyld Stallyns 125 =20 14 Bliss (W) 110 =20 15 Whiplash 101 =20 16 Mild Mannered Janitors (C) 90 =20 17 Skunks 81 =20 18 Gael Force (C) 73 =20 19 Blue Arse Flies Too (C) 67 =20 20 Smudge 60 =20 21 Fingers 6 53 =20 22 Twin Peaks (W) 47 =20 23 Sneeeky's 40 =20 24 Albatross 33 =20 25 Slipdisc 27 =20 26 Shooting Stars 20 =20 27 Falling Skies 13 =20 28 Deep Blue 7 =20 --- BUF Ultim8 Tour Committee u8c@egroups.com postmaster@ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEB1F2.BEC16560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Points awarded for Tour III, Edinburgh:
 

Position

Team Name

Points

1

U.T.I.

250

2

Dough Boy

230

3

Chevron Action Flash

222

4

Catch 22

210

5

Red

205

6

S.O.U.P.

190

7

Fluid Druids

181

8

Strange Blue

170

9

Blue Arse Flies

162

10

Nightfever

150

11

Phat 'Eds

141

12

First Touch

130

13

Wyld Stallyns

125

14

Bliss (W)

110

15

Whiplash

101

16

Mild Mannered Janitors (C)

90

17

Skunks

81

18

Gael Force (C)

73

19

Blue Arse Flies Too (C)

67

20

Smudge

60

21

Fingers 6

53

22

Twin Peaks (W)

47

23

Sneeeky's

40

24

Albatross

33

25

Slipdisc

27

26

Shooting Stars

20

27

Falling Skies

13

28

Deep Blue

7

 
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEB1F2.BEC16560-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 15:03:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12136 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:01:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12117 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:01:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26915 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:00:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from clw13.clw.org ([209.8.25.198]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:54:26 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990609100100.006de46c@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:01:01 -0400 To: Chris Gibbs , British Ultimate Federation From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: Ultimate growth Cc: BRITDISC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA12132 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Comments on comments, from across the water. At 08:39 PM 6/8/99 +0100, Chris Gibbs wrote: >> PLAYER: How could the BUF ever afford to pay salaries? >> >> BUF: By becoming an association with individual membership just like other >> countries (e.g. the UPA in America.) >> > >Why is there a connection being made between the way the BUF is structured and >its ability to pay salaries? Surely the ability to pay salaries is dependent >only on income. > And income is dependent only on structure. >> >> ... Individual membership would increase the work of the administrator but >> the benefits of having proper contact with every player in the country would >> make it worthwhile. The organisation would be able to communicate properly >> with all players and the opportunities for starting new teams and helping >> special interest groups (e.g. women or juniors) would be huge. Rostering of >> teams would become a lot easier with a proper national database of players. > >....similarly, is it not possible to keep a database of players and keep in >contact with them without changing to individual membership? I would think it may be possible, but only the resources provided by going to individual membership make it truly feasible. > >> PLAYER: What would we get for our money? >> >> BUF: Most important of all is a regular newsletter posted to all members. >> Other individual benefits could include individual personal accident >> insurance and cheap discs. >> > >I actually think that this is similar to a very important question: What do >players actually *want* from the BUF (or whatever it might become)? >Personally, I could happily live without a printed copy of Ultimatum. I have no >need for insurance (famous last words?!), and discs aren't that expensive are >they? >The one thing that I would want from the BUF is information: >Details of tournaments and details of other players (nothing too personal!). >The cost of maintaining the information base and publishing it (using emails and >www to keep it low?) is perhaps where our money should go. > Printed copy or not, you need someone to write Ultimatum. As an American, I read the printed copy of the UPA newsletter cover to cover, and its huge. I would also read an electronic version, but both take time, resources, and money. In the states, insurance is not for the individual players, its for the tournament organizers, so they are not liable for injuries that occur. Almost never needed, but it gives organizers one less thing to worry about, and can be extremely useful in time of need. >> ... Clearly the association would have to make sure that players at >> official tournaments were all fully paid members. With the increasing >> requirement for team rosters at tournaments it would be difficult for people >> to slip the net. In any case, we think most players would want to become >> members in order to receive the benefits mentioned above. > >I personally think that this is a little naive. If you fancy playing for a team >at a tournament, would there really be anything stopping you from doing so? > A lot. In the US, rosters are closely monitored at important tournaments to insure players don't change teams, even from tournament to tournament. Sure, unknown players can jump around w/ no one noticing, but if Paulo decides to play for UTI after Catch is out of the finals, people would notice. >> >> PLAYER: What about students and junior players who cannot afford individual >> membership? >> >> BUF: It may be best to let these groups continue under the current team >> affiliation set-up. Apart from anything else, trying to keep in contact with >> individual student members would be very difficult. One idea might be to >> give these groups a bit more autonomy from the main national organisation. >> This is beginning to happen quite naturally now anyway as student ultimate >> becomes larger and more organised whilst the non-student teams are playing >> at a higher level. > >Are we not at risk of introducing more complication if there is a different >administration style for junior/student teams to that for other teams....and >what if you're a (cliched) 'poor student' and you want to play for an open team? > >Finally, with regard to paying fees, isn't it logical that you pay according to >how much involvement you have. Some players may only play in say two/three >tournaments a year. Would £25 for this (and the newsletter telling them about >tournaments they didn't go to) appeal? In the US, you can pay a small fee ($10?) to play in a single UPA tournament, or a $25 fee to join for the year. (Many other tounaments are simply team fee, and don't even require rosters, so individual players can virtually play for free.) Stephen Young Currently Pocomoke, formerly Gun, permanently Happy ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 17:48:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22590 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22585 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:47:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd106.hotmail.com [207.82.252.170]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20364 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:46:59 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 43330 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 1999 16:46:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990609164628.43329.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.122.243 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:46:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.122.243] From: Jester Bit To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: for Londoners Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:46:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk NEW IN TOWN seeks help getting to Quarry Park, Leamington for BDGA golf on Saturday 12th June 1999. Can anyone offer a lift please from and back to London? Cheers Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 18:47:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04037 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:45:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04031 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:45:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23255 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:45:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-037.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.37]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA17692 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:42:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003701beb2a0$20b38520$25a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Ultimate growth Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:43:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris, Thanks for your email. Your points addressed: 1. Who is this 'management style' letting down? Its letting down the Juniors, Women and Open teams who do not have the benefits of freshers fairs, university funding, university facilities, time to organise stuff, and a nearby bunch of mates to go play ultimate with. 2.Why is there a connection being made between the way the BUF is structured and its ability to pay salaries? Because by charging individuals (and yes, that means players paying a bit more than before) we can get a reliable income with which to employ someone. 3. similarly, is it not possible to keep a database of players and keep in contact with them without changing to individual membership? No! Hands up all those willing to maintain a database of 2000 people. It took me many weeks just to get our team contact database up to date. 4.What do players actually *want* from the BUF (or whatever it might become)? I accept that the proposal lacked a clear enough list of benefits for players - something for version 2 - promise! Suggestions as to what people would like from the organisation would be welcomed. I see the benefits falling into two categories: Tangible: Newsletter,discounts on equipment, discs, insurance, etc, Intangible: Publicity, increased recruitment, development of the sport. A lot of people want to have the intangible benefits but most don't have the time to make them happen - fair enough - with an administrator these people can "put their money where their mouth is." 5.The cost of maintaining the information base and publishing it (using emails and www to keep it low?) is perhaps where our money should go. Thats where it would go - the newsletter being the single most expensive proposed benefit of membership. And if you think Internet is sufficient to keep in contact with everyone then you're probably not fussed about whether we keep new teams, schools and publicity contacts informed. 6. If you fancy playing for a team at a tournament, would there really be anything stopping you from doing so? At Ross-on-Wye - No, Thats not an official BUF Event At the Nationals/Tour events - Yes, (Chris Hughes would be stopping you!!!) Rosters are already a requirement, policed membership would only be a small step further - every other country does it! 7. Are we not at risk of introducing more complication if there is a different >administration style for junior/student teams to that for other teams Probably true - In fact the students who responded didn't seem too concerned about having autonomy and most just wanted to remain part of the main organisation. On the other hand, judging by your posting (I assume from your ...ac.uk email address you are a student) some students would prefer to retain the current set-up, therefore *maybe* students should be running their own affairs? I'm not a fan of partition myself and I can't see us telling students they're not welcome at Association events! 8. what if you're a (cliched) 'poor student' and you want to play for an open team? Doesn't matter what team you play for. You pay your association membership (we have proposed a cheaper unwaged/student rate) and you play for whoever you like. 9. Finally, with regard to paying fees, isn't it logical that you pay according to how much involvement you have. Some players may only play in say two/three tournaments a year. Would £25 for this (and the newsletter telling them about tournaments they didn't go to) appeal? Maybe. Or look at it another way: Many? players don't get to hear about tournaments because they don't have Internet or their team contact is lazy, would £25 to be kept informed be too much? Might not regular communication actually encourage participation? Alternatively, we *could* charge a fee each time a non-member attends a tournament - but this sounds like tournament tax which I think most would like to see abolished? You decide! 10. Here's a suggestion: the BUF runs the info service, and represents Ultimate to outsiders. Players wanting to be registered pay a nominal charge. This service should be well-advertised to students who have played at uni and are moving on... ...and if you don't believe it can be done for a nominal fee, then check out the sixdegrees website (www.sixdegrees.com) for an example of free information exchange...its reliant on advertising and the input of its members (it even has an Ultimate discussion group). Just think what companies might want to advertise to young, athletic graduates. A newsletter could be published online if popular enough...find a friend with a printer for hard copies. "Let them eat cake", frankly! Who is going to run the info service? Who is going to deal with registration/charges? Who is going to approach these companies? Who is going to publish an online newsletter? Are you volunteering? We've been here a thousand times before - you simply can't expect people to give up that much free time - that is why we haven't had Ultimatum for over a year, that is why the website is out of date, that is why we haven't kept the school teams and THIS is why we must pay someone to do the boring stuff. Keep talking....the more feedback the better. Remember nobody has decided anything yet. This is still just a proposal. Cheers Ben PS, Chris, I have a couple of contacts in Newcastle for you which I will email to you separately. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Gibbs From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 18:52:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05078 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05072 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21018 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rmVk-000JAl-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:51:38 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:35:29 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Postmaster Subject: Re: Tour Ranking after Tour III References: <001101beb1eb$76603500$36a0883e@default> In-Reply-To: <001101beb1eb$76603500$36a0883e@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne Retter writes >Tour Ranking after Tour III > >Note: this is NOT the seeding for Tour IV > > Rank > Team Name > Total With sincere apologies to all with mail software that doesn't follow the "microsoft standards". Never again will I copy'n'paste from Excel into Outlook Express! Wayne PS: the Ultim8 Tour website at the new location of http://www.ultim8tour .freeserve.co.uk/ is prettier than the email :) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 18:52:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05094 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05087 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21024 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:51:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.248.177] (helo=phidelta.demon.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rmVn-000EIP-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:51:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:25:17 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Postmaster Subject: Re: Ultimate growth References: <00bb01beac63$b1454800$28a492c3@pii266> <375D715F.662FBC90@sunderland.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <375D715F.662FBC90@sunderland.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris Gibbs writes >Who is this 'management style' letting down? If, as you say later on, that >university clubs represent the largest division of the BUF, then are you really >expecting to change the way uni societies/clubs are run? >From mutterings I've heard recently (maybe I'm hanging around with the wrong students...), the Athletic Union structure in universities is also heading toward a basic individual membership fee basis, with additional participation fees. >Why is there a connection being made between the way the BUF is structured and >its ability to pay salaries? Surely the ability to pay salaries is dependent >only on income. As I see it: An individual membership basis provides funding in direct proportion to the number of members that exist, and indicate the scope for the number of salaried employees required to provide the required services. The current club registration basis provides a very rough indicator of the number of Ultimate players that exist, and of their needs. As a specific example - a newsletter - for the association, it's very simple to meet the target of one-per-member as the association knows how many members there are. The current system allows say, 6 per club, but how do you spot that an 'old boys' club contains 10 members, in comparison to a healthy student club of 60 to 80 members? >....similarly, is it not possible to keep a database of players and keep in >contact with them without changing to individual membership? Players move, and neglect to tell their bank, let alone the ultimate federation... They figure that word will get around, to the important people at least... It just doesn't work, even just trying to keep tabs on 'official club contacts'! >I actually think that this is similar to a very important question: What do >players actually *want* from the BUF (or whatever it might become)? >Personally, I could happily live without a printed copy of Ultimatum. I have no >need for insurance (famous last words?!), and discs aren't that expensive are >they? >The one thing that I would want from the BUF is information: >Details of tournaments and details of other players (nothing too personal!). >The cost of maintaining the information base and publishing it (using emails and >www to keep it low?) is perhaps where our money should go. Hence the *could*... I suspect that once the players decide what they want, there'll be some plan to provide it! Maybe discount deals with hire car companies, sports shop chains, airlines, hotel chains... Strangely enough: insurance could be handier than you might think (OK, sounds like a sales pitch, but there are times when it takes so long to get an NHS physio appointment that all they can say is "you seem to have recovered quite well"!) and quite a few venues are checking that there's some kind of insurance cover - especially if the public are going to be around too; and discs *could* be quite a lot cheaper... >> ... Clearly the association would have to make sure that players at >> official tournaments were all fully paid members. With the increasing >> requirement for team rosters at tournaments it would be difficult for people >> to slip the net. In any case, we think most players would want to become >> members in order to receive the benefits mentioned above. > >I personally think that this is a little naive. If you fancy playing for a team >at a tournament, would there really be anything stopping you from doing so? 1) Recognition - It's difficult to remember exactly who plays for an opposing team, but new faces stick out in a familiar crowd. 2) Endangering others benefits - hypothetical scenario: all of your team has to be paid up/rostered to receive insurance benefits, etc. If any ONE of your team isn't, the whole team looses the benefits. Then something goes wrong, and the insurance is void because of your ONE... People just don't like to run those sorts of risks. >Are we not at risk of introducing more complication if there is a different >administration style for junior/student teams to that for other teams....and >what if you're a (cliched) 'poor student' and you want to play for an open team? Maybe it'll be more complicated. Maybe it'll become simpler, if/when the student sector grows large enough to become self-supporting and goes it's own way? (what does the future hold?) >Finally, with regard to paying fees, isn't it logical that you pay according to >how much involvement you have. Some players may only play in say two/three >tournaments a year. Would £25 for this (and the newsletter telling them about >tournaments they didn't go to) appeal? Wasn't there the theory of a basic association membership fee, along with smaller tournament fees (?) i.e. changing the membership system rather than the entire payment system. It would still, therefore, be participation dependent. If you decided that a regular mailshot wasn't for you, you'd not sign up next year until you fancied playing, and then you'd get a temporary membership to cover you for the tournament? >Here's a suggestion: the BUF runs the info service, and represents Ultimate to >outsiders. Players wanting to be registered pay a nominal charge. This service >should be well-advertised to students who have played at uni and are moving >on... I think that this would require a charge to be made to people that wanted to obtain information, too, even 'insiders'. How do *you* find out where your local teams/players are if they don't >A newsletter could be published online if popular enough...find a friend with a >printer for hard copies. This part isn't a problem. Finding ten people willing to contribute is near impossible, however - check out www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk and/or Ultimatum over the last 10 years and work out how many different authors/contributors there were (not that the few didn't do well) and then how many of the names don't ring other bells... >If you attend a tournament, you (and your team members) pay the entry fees, and >the organisers cover their costs. If the BUF is partly responsible for a >tournament, then it gets a part of the cash raised. Student/junior teams (with >official school/university recognition) get a reduced rate? So, what's different? In the old days (when Toby Green was the BUF) the BUF actually ran all it's own tournaments (Nationals!). Now it seems that tournaments are only BUF affiliated because they pay a tournament tax to the BUF (OK, all teams that enter the Ultim8 Tour have to be paid up BUF members) >OK, I've gone on for way too long, but if you've read this far, then you're >probably a player who actually gives a toss. As usual, all opinions are my >own...blah, blah etc. Me too, and I do. One of my problems is that I don't think I've got time to do as much about it as I'd like. One last thing, I know that several people agree with my opinions, and quite a few disagree... Wayne Retter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 21:39:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00728 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:37:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00715 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:37:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA01908 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:37:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 29238 invoked from network); 9 Jun 1999 20:37:33 -0000 Received: from dyn205-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.205) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 9 Jun 1999 20:37:33 -0000 Message-ID: <375ED028.9387B71B@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:35:52 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" Subject: New Ultilinks Interview Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ciao a tutti. Just a short note to inform you that there's a brand new interview on Ultilinks: John Greenfield - Australian Ultimate. Check it out at: http://www.ultilinks.com/ Also note that Ultilinks now links to more than 800 ultimate related sites. We also host the following sites: WUCC99 - http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Death Or Glory - http://www.ultilinks.com/dog/ Zimbabwe Ultimate - http://www.ultilinks.com/goto/zimbabwe/ Keep 'em flying, Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 9 23:36:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16607 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16595 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03466 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from [158.152.203.174] (helo=[158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10rqvz-000LBt-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:34:59 +0000 Subject: Re: Ultimate growth Date: Wed, 9 Jun 99 23:36:11 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id XAA16596 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As Ultimatum editor (why that makes me qualified to pitch in, I'm not sure) here's my thoughts: >> ..... Perhaps because of its academic roots, the way >> it is run has not changed much from the ‘President – Secretary – Treasurer’ >> university sports club management style. This has kept the sport going for >> many years but is now beginning to let us down. > >Who is this 'management style' letting down? If, as you say later on, that >university clubs represent the largest division of the BUF, then are you >really >expecting to change the way uni societies/clubs are run? I think what Ben meant was that the BUF itself has been run a lot like a big University society i.e. with a President, a Secretary and a Treasurer, all volunteers. >> >> ... Individual membership would increase the work of the administrator but >> the benefits of having proper contact with every player in the country would >> make it worthwhile. The organisation would be able to communicate properly >> with all players and the opportunities for starting new teams and helping >> special interest groups (e.g. women or juniors) would be huge. Rostering of >> teams would become a lot easier with a proper national database of players. > >....similarly, is it not possible to keep a database of players and keep in >contact with them without changing to individual membership? There's currently no incentive for individual players to keep the BUF informed of their whereabouts, nor is there the manpower to maintain such a huge database (it's difficult enough keeping the team contact database up to date). As a result, the BUF has no verifiable figures for the number of players in the country, which is a problem when the BUF comes to represent itself to sponsors or other organisations like the Sports Council. > >> PLAYER: What would we get for our money? >> >> BUF: Most important of all is a regular newsletter posted to all members. >> Other individual benefits could include individual personal accident >> insurance and cheap discs. >> > >I actually think that this is similar to a very important question: What do >players actually *want* from the BUF (or whatever it might become)? >Personally, I could happily live without a printed copy of Ultimatum. Ultimatum *could* become a purely online publication. But that would still exclude (I'm guessing) 50% of the players in the country who don't have internet access. And a paper edition is a very useful promotional tool. I don't think we can get the coverage and growth we want without the paper version (which is a shame, since it'd make my life a bit easier if we didn't need to print it ;-) The additional exposure we get by having Ultimatum available as a download is definitely a good thing though. Which reminds me, I'd better get number 38 up there... > >Finally, with regard to paying fees, isn't it logical that you pay >according to >how much involvement you have. Some players may only play in say two/three >tournaments a year. Would £25 for this (and the newsletter telling them about >tournaments they didn't go to) appeal? Don't you think the less tournaments you go to, the *more* important it is that you get the newsletter? I'm sure lots of players gradually dropped out of Ultimate partly because they were no longer in touch with what was happening (I did). This is a real problem for new graduates who move to a part of the country with no teams. Getting a regular newsletter sent to your door would help considerably. As for options for paying less than 25 quid, most other sports will cost you rather more than 25 pounds a year to play even moderately seriously. Tennis? Golf? Sunday league football? If you don't want to participate in Ultimate "seriously", you can decline to become a member, not receive the newsletter, and only play in casual, non-BUF tournaments (at least, that's how I originally understood the proposal). That would seem pretty fair. I would assume that a "guest" player on a Tour team wouldn't need to be a BUF member. > Just think what companies might want to >advertise >to young, athletic graduates. You'd think, wouldn't you? But it seems that we are a far too insignificantly-sized group in the eyes of a company's marketing department, and they don't feel it's worth getting involved for the amount of exposure they get. In the past we've expended a lot of energy trying to get advertising in Ultimatum, with little to show for it. I'm not saying it's not a good idea, it's just that there's a limit to the number of man-hours that can go into producing Ultimatum, and chasing advertising etc has never been a terribly productive use of my time. If advertisers or sponsors want to approach me however, I'm more than happy. I'm not trying to shoot these ideas down in flames, this is just my perspective on things. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 10:02:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18983 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:00:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18978 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:00:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01029 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:00:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow (pow.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.132]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA10230 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:57:53 GMT Message-Id: <199906100857.IAA10230@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:03:25 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Ultimate growth Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just adding my support to the BUF proposals - I don't want to repeat everything as I am pretty much in agreement with what Ben and Paul have said. But >I'm sure lots of players gradually dropped out of Ultimate partly because they were no longer >in touch with what was happening (I did). This is a real problem for new graduates who move >to a part of the country with no teams. Getting a regular newsletter sent to your door would >help considerably. I see this as the most major benefit for both players and the BUF. Many players that aren't on britdisc/have web access find it hard to keep up with dates/results/new rules etc... and for new players I frimly believe that a monthly newsletter would go a long way to keeping them interested. I think this applies as much if not more to student players - my experience of student reqruitment is huge numbers of new people that last for about 2 months and then suddenly there are very few - anything that helps keep those people interested is great! I agree however that students (and un-waged) will need some form of reduced membership. Just my two cents, BARRY From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 10:33:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25194 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:32:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25180 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:31:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20259 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:31:58 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:12:14 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF2F@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:12:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA25181 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Getting a regular newsletter sent to your door would >help > considerably. People have suggested that this should be done through the web, others have rightly countered that this would disenfranchise those without web access. How about an affiliation fee which reflects the cost of your affiliation? One of the main costs highlighted has been posting a newsletter to your door. We could therefore have a £25 fee for those requesting a newsletter and £20 (or less depending on the postal and administration costs) for those accessing the newsletter via a website. People with limited bandwidth could be emailed an Acrobat pdf file to peruse at their leisure, print off, photocopy and distribute at will (good promotional tool I would have thought - they can give copies to friends/relatives, especailly when there's a photo/mention of them). Such a tiered structure would raise initial setup costs slightly as there would be two types of member, but that would quickly be recouped through saved printing, postage and stamp-licking costs and therefore merits serious consideration. If anybody can argue sensibly against such an approach, please do. Best of all, IT SAVES TREES! Waddyafink? rt > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry O'Kane > Sent: 10 June 1999 10:03 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Ultimate growth > > > Just adding my support to the BUF proposals - I don't want to repeat > everything as I am pretty much in agreement with what Ben and > Paul have > said. But > > >I'm sure lots of players gradually dropped out of Ultimate > partly because > they were no longer >in touch with what was happening (I > did). This is a > real problem for new graduates who move >to a part of the > country with no > teams. Getting a regular newsletter sent to your door would >help > considerably. > > > I see this as the most major benefit for both players and the > BUF. Many > players that aren't on britdisc/have web access find it hard > to keep up > with dates/results/new rules etc... and for new players I > frimly believe > that a monthly newsletter would go a long way to keeping them > interested. > I think this applies as much if not more to student players - > my experience > of student reqruitment is huge numbers of new people that > last for about 2 > months and then suddenly there are very few - anything that helps keep > those people interested is great! > > I agree however that students (and un-waged) will need some > form of reduced > membership. > > Just my two cents, > BARRY > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 12:02:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14588 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14578 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:01:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from web903.mail.yahoo.com (web903.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.78]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA26148 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:01:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990610110025.8748.rocketmail@web903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.186] by web903.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:00:25 PDT Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Nistri Reply-To: christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk Subject: Ultimate Growth To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk why on earth should people who have the benefit of computers at work be favoured by paying less than those who haven't access to the internet? You might argue that, some one who has access can print off copies for the team members who don't? O.K., well what's to stop just one team member paying full memebership and printing copies off for the whole team. Let's be fair and have every one paying the same, with discounts for students and un-employed. If the only difference between the two membership fees is as you suggest the "postal and administrative costs", I fail to see where the savings for the BUF would be.If I pay less but don't receive an Ultimatum, I am the only one who has made any saving. I think it's important not just to think of ourseleves but how we can all contribute, wouldn't you agree Roger? People have suggested that this should be done through the web, others have rightly countered that this would disenfranchise those without web access. How about an affiliation fee which reflects the cost of your affiliation? One of the main costs highlighted has been posting a newsletter to your door. We could therefore have a £25 fee for those requesting a newsletter and £20 (or less depending on the postal and administration costs) for those accessing the newsletter via a website. People with limited bandwidth could be emailed an Acrobat pdf file to peruse at their leisure, print off, photocopy and distribute at will (good promotional tool I would have thought - they can give copies to friends/relatives, especailly when there's a photo/mention of them). Such a tiered structure would raise initial setup costs slightly as there would be two types of member, but that would quickly be recouped through saved printing, postage and stamp-licking costs and therefore merits serious consideration. If anybody can argue sensibly against such an approach, please do. === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 12:23:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19299 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:22:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from primrose (mavea@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19251; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:22:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:22:12 +0100 (BST) From: Miss S Kirwan To: Nick Dray cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" , "Nightfever (E-mail)" , Tony Davies Subject: Re: Whiplash in Shock Buyout. In-Reply-To: <01BEB1A0.3DAD3DC0.nick.dray@geseaco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Mr Mark Jefferson is currently unavailable to comment, due to suffering from Post Birthday Hangover Syndrome, but will issue a formal statement on Monday after meeting with his accountants. Sarah (On behalf of Whiplash) On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Nick Dray wrote: > Tuesday 8th June, 11.12AM, London. (Reuters) > > It has been formally announced that NightFever, the south east based ultimate > team have bought control of Whiplash Ultimate for a "nominal" sum. > Representatives of NightFever met with Mr Mark Jefferson, acting on behalf on Whiplash, > in Edinburgh on Friday 4th June. Negotiations were said to be brief, yet productive. > > The deal is thought to be the first of it's kind in ultimate, and means that Whiplash are now a wholey owned subsiduary of NightFever. > > A Nightfever spokesman said that the team were "delighted" with Friday's events, > although stressed that no firm plans for the future of Whiplash had been determined. > > No statement has yet been issued by Whiplash. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 12:43:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24052 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:42:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24043 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:42:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail9.svr.pol.co.uk (mail9.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.22]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28511 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:42:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-181.name45.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.182.181] helo=roger) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10s3De-000657-00; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:42:02 +0100 Message-ID: <001001beb336$2afde200$02010180@roger.kbw.co.uk> Reply-To: "Pete Harvey" From: "Pete Harvey" To: , "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Ultimate Growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:40:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wigs, reduction of treeware is the only issue here. If I can get a pdf, I don't need the buf to pay for a large print run, somone to pack 'em and then pay the post office... how can you fail to see the savings? there is nothing to stop me from doing the legwork, and printing copies for my teammates/newbies/mother-in-law, but I would see that as 'Doing My Bit' to spread the word, rather than ripping off the BUF by paying slightly less for the privelige. Differential membership is fair to all parties, whether this is 'discrimination' for the un-webbed or un-waged is a matter of opinion. Harv -----Original Message----- From: Christian Nistri To: BRITDISC Date: 10 June 1999 12:03 Subject: Ultimate Growth why on earth should people who have the benefit of computers at work be favoured by paying less than those who haven't access to the internet? You might argue that, some one who has access can print off copies for the team members who don't? O.K., well what's to stop just one team member paying full memebership and printing copies off for the whole team. Let's be fair and have every one paying the same, with discounts for students and un-employed. If the only difference between the two membership fees is as you suggest the "postal and administrative costs", I fail to see where the savings for the BUF would be.If I pay less but don't receive an Ultimatum, I am the only one who has made any saving. I think it's important not just to think of ourseleves but how we can all contribute, wouldn't you agree Roger? People have suggested that this should be done through the web, others have rightly countered that this would disenfranchise those without web access. How about an affiliation fee which reflects the cost of your affiliation? One of the main costs highlighted has been posting a newsletter to your door. We could therefore have a £25 fee for those requesting a newsletter and £20 (or less depending on the postal and administration costs) for those accessing the newsletter via a website. People with limited bandwidth could be emailed an Acrobat pdf file to peruse at their leisure, print off, photocopy and distribute at will (good promotional tool I would have thought - they can give copies to friends/relatives, especailly when there's a photo/mention of them). Such a tiered structure would raise initial setup costs slightly as there would be two types of member, but that would quickly be recouped through saved printing, postage and stamp-licking costs and therefore merits serious consideration. If anybody can argue sensibly against such an approach, please do. === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 15:02:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01158 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:00:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01150 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:00:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09342 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:00:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 10 Jun 99 14:57:59 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 10 Jun 99 14:57:33 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:57:29 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Ultimatum production In-reply-to: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF2F@baby.kbw.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <15BAFD8F2341@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA01152 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Roger challenged anybody to argue sensibly against a two tier fee, depending on whether you wanted a printed copy of Ultimatum to be sent or not. Here are some sensible (but not necessarily compelling) arguments. In terms of publishing costs you would only cut costs proportionately to numbers of copies if you photocopy the newsletter. If it is being printed, which is far better quality, there is a large set up cost and the marginal cost per copy is relatively small. This was my experience when Sam Neilson and I produced Ultimatum 5 years ago. In terms of saving trees, a printed newsletter will be double sided, people printing hard copy on their printer will produce single sided, so it depends how many people choose to print their electronic version. Lastly, extra admin could be created as people opt initially for electronic version then find that they can't read acrobat files so want to change. Some will pester the publisher to produce different formats, acrobat version 1.1.2.b, MS-Word, etc. Like I said these may not be compelling arguments, but I hope they meet Roger's challenge of being sensible. If not I shall have my flame-proof jacket ready to put on! Del Roger Thomson wrote... > People have suggested that this should be done through the web, others have > rightly countered that this would disenfranchise those without web access. > > How about an affiliation fee which reflects the cost of your affiliation? > > One of the main costs highlighted has been posting a newsletter to your > door. We could therefore have a £25 fee for those requesting a newsletter > and £20 (or less depending on the postal and administration costs) for those > accessing the newsletter via a website. People with limited bandwidth could > be emailed an Acrobat pdf file to peruse at their leisure, print off, > photocopy and distribute at will (good promotional tool I would have thought > - they can give copies to friends/relatives, especailly when there's a > photo/mention of them). > > Such a tiered structure would raise initial setup costs slightly as there > would be two types of member, but that would quickly be recouped through > saved printing, postage and stamp-licking costs and therefore merits serious > consideration. If anybody can argue sensibly against such an approach, > please do. > > Best of all, IT SAVES TREES! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 15:05:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02197 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:04:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02179 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:04:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from web904.mail.yahoo.com (web904.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.79]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06958 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:04:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990610140352.6221.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.186] by web904.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:03:52 PDT Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:03:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Nistri Reply-To: christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ooops did I touch a nerve Nolan? I am sorry that I expressed a view with which you disagree. Evidently, your very sensitive about this "real World", something, being so young, I have obviously never experienced. My only point was that for the BUF it seemed the best idea to only differentiate between students/un-employed not compter users and non-computer users aswell. Nothing more to say. Take it easy Wigs === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 15:23:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06780 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:22:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06773 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:22:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12605 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:22:20 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:02:35 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF3A@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: Ultimate Growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:02:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA06776 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk PARENTAL ADVISORY: This is a considered response to Master Nistri's simplistic put-down of my well meant proposal for electronic distribution of Ultimatum and differential fees. If you don't care about it, don't read on. Don't be too easily offended by some of the more dramatic comments, I love theatre. I warned you - so if you read it you do so at your own peril, no flames please. I've just received, read and digested Derek's comments. They have some bearing. They should be factored into more precise calculations than my back of the envelope stuff below. They are sensible. They do not, however, affect the general gist of what I am saying. The full gist follows: Christian, > why on earth should people who have the benefit of > computers at work be favoured by paying less than > those who haven't access to the internet? Why on earth should the people who are up with technology pay for the administration costs brought about by those with more luddite attitudes? The Industrial Revolution is over. This is the Digital Revolution. It is a Revolution, let there be no doubt. If you don't surf the wave you get crushed by it. > You might > argue that, some one who has access can print off > copies for the team members who don't? O.K., well > what's to stop just one team member paying full > memebership and printing copies off for the whole > team. Nothing, but that is in fact the most beautiful thing about such a system. Thanks for highlighting that fact. It only encourages more savings. Distributed distribution - every system analysts wet dream. My wet dream. Paul Hurt's wet dream. > Let's be fair and have every one paying the > same, with discounts for students and un-employed. Sounds fair enough, but I wasn't addressing those particular issues in my mail. You Guardian readers are, thanks to democratic rule, entitled to heap more favour upon those of yourselves already blessed with copious free time, lack of committments and absence of any real responsibility. If I was in charge you'd be in a boot camp. > If the only difference between the two membership fees > is as you suggest the "postal and administrative > costs", I fail to see where the savings for the BUF > would be. Hmm let me see: Cost of first class stamp - 26p Cost of one manilla envelope - 10p Cost of one auto-print address label - circa 1.5p Cost of labour to pack each one (approx 20/hour @ £5/hour (presuming we get it done in the North ;-))) - 25p Cost of printing: 63p (figures supplied by Paul Hurt - see Appendix A below) Cost of each postal delivery - £1.255 Estimated current UK player base - 2000 Cost of each mailshot - £2510 Estimated number of mailshots/year - 7 (one before season start, one per Tour event and one after Nationals) Cost of mailing a years worth of issues: £17,570 Estimated BUF revenue: 2000 * £25 = £50,000 Can you smell the roses yet Christian? The environmental costs of reduction of Treeware (as RV called it) have not been included in these calculations because our capitalist free market economy is not sufficiently sophisticated or regulated that externalities like this are factored into prices. They only reinforce my argument. If that sentence was too much to digest - HIPPIES AGREE WITH ME! > If I pay less but don't receive an Ultimatum, > I am the only one who has made any saving. Not if only a portion (to be decided) is passed on as a consumer saving. 50% could be retained and regarded as a charitable donation from those with computers towards those without. How sweet. > I think > it's important not just to think of ourseleves but how > we can all contribute, wouldn't you agree Roger? I agree, but maybe one should be thinking of what one is contributing rather than one's personal animosity towards another poster before attempting to contribute, if rather naively, purely to settle a personal disagreement? Mine was a serious attempt to drag the BUF proposal into the 21st century, considered and thought through - was yours? There are arguments against differential fees. Some. Some of those deserve attention. Wigsy failed to mention any of those. There are further reasons for differential fees which I have not mentioned. The argument will evolve. > If anybody can argue sensibly against > such an approach, please do. I don't consider the argument by any means closed, especially not in Wigsy's favour ;-), and possibly not in my favour:-(, so please - more views! regards, PieBoy Bad Company, Strange Blue, Regulators, Hombres, Shotgun, Shotgone, DoughBoy and always provocative PS any syntax errors or errors in calculation are because of work pressure. I can hardly breathe. I apologise in advance. PPS Nolan's mail was to you and I personally (you can tell by looking in the header...), netiquette dictates that if you mail a response to the mailing list you should include the full text of his message to allow others to judge for themselves. I have included the full message in Appendix B in order to fulfill that obligation. I especially liked the waterproof putdown. Nice 1 Noles. PPPS Yes, I am a complete and utter technology fascist. Why aren't you all? APPENDIX A Ultimatum printing costs: (direct from Paul Hurt, the horses mouth) Cost of 800 copies: £575 Therefore cost of 2000 copies: £1437.5 (but let's be kind and say we get a discount, making it £1200) Cost of managing print run: 3hrs @ £20/hr = £60 Total: £1260 Per copy: 63p APPENDIX B Rarely have I heard such complete Bunkum! Idealists need to get to grips with the fact thet there is no equality in life whatsoever and those who propose it's implementation are 'suicidal theorists'. People with cars get places quicker (arguably) and indeed are called upon to give rides to teammates who don't have such luxuries and who's only alternative might be to pay a train fare or somesuch. That's the real World Christian. Been there lately? Do you plan to ban personal ownership of anything that might be beneficial to an individual in case that person gains an advantage of some type. I'm all in favour of supporting those with general financial drawbacks such as students and the unwaged but it's pushing the point just a teency weency bit towards just plain dum, to suggest that no-one should be allowed to benefit from ownership of a consumer item of some kind. If I'm the only one who turns up at a tournament with waterproofs and it pours, you're getting wet I'm afraid buddy. If one team member prints out Ultimatum for the whole damn team and anyone else who'd like a copy, fine. That's publicity. Others don't pay membership won't be able to take part in any BUF sanctioned competitions. Their loss! Being fair constitutes promoting the sport for the benefit of the participants. That would appear to be exactly what Roger was proposing. Don'y let naive ideology hold us all back. Hugs N From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 15:51:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13368 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:50:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13353 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:50:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from web905.mail.yahoo.com (web905.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.80]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA16396 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:50:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990610145016.17889.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.186] by web905.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:50:16 PDT Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:50:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Christian Nistri Reply-To: christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roger, we obviously have different views on how we should conduct ourselves towards our peers but thanks for the maths lesson. I only wished to point out that, as we would be paying for the postal and administrative costs ourselves, as you suggested yourself in the your first mail, the BUF wouldn't be actually saving any money, because it would be expending any in the first place, or am I reading your first e-mail wrong? >We could therefore have a £25 fee for those requesting >a newsletter >and £20 (or less depending on the postal and >administration costs) for those >accessing the newsletter via a website Thank you, however thank you for your considered response and I do apologise to Nolan, however his tone was fairly aggressive and I did object to it. Eve and I are looking forward to seeing you at Southampton, make sure you don't trip over a blade of grass Wigsy === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 15:59:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15814 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:59:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15803 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:59:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10644 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:59:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-108.sustiva.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.87.108] helo=workstation01) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10s6Il-00046v-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:59:32 +0100 Message-ID: <002801beb352$022630a0$6c57883e@workstation01> From: "Simon Barlow" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Ultimate growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:00:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEB35A.63012300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEB35A.63012300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Britdisc =20 Just a couple of points about this absolutly riveting argument. 1. Del is correct that printing has initial expensive set up costs and = per copy once the proofs have been done is relativly cheap per copy, and = as it stands at the moment we are trying to encorage people to take up = the sport this is our only way of distributing info to the masses.=20 2. just consider for one minute that Ultimate in its present state must = have the highest proportion of players of any sport in the world on = e-mail. but as it increases in size, and it will, more non university = gratuates will be brought into the game so the need for info in its = current form will become more vital 3. Also to encorage people to take up the sport and to increase our = chances of Sport England recognition we need to be able to provide info = to them that shows we are giving consideration to people from all walks = of life. And also this may be useful for Christian Family membership as = the Nistri clan expands Hope nobody minds me putting my Northern Twopeneth in And anybody with jobs paying over =A35 per hr give us northern boys a = ring as we'll take them off your hands. Simon Barlow Chevy Ex-fingers And just a short one before i go back to the coalface=20 Well done to fingers 6 for winning all there games at tour 3 keep it up = boys (and ladies) ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEB35A.63012300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Just a couple of points about this = absolutly=20 riveting argument.
1. Del is correct that printing has initial = expensive set up=20 costs and per copy once the proofs have been done is relativly cheap per = copy,=20 and as it stands at the moment we are trying to encorage people to take = up the=20 sport this is our only way of distributing info to the masses. =
2. just consider for one minute that Ultimate in its = present=20 state must have the highest proportion of players of any sport in the = world on=20 e-mail. but as it increases in size, and it will, more non university = gratuates=20 will be brought into the game so the need for info in its current form = will=20 become more vital
3. Also to encorage people to take up the sport and = to=20 increase our chances of Sport England recognition we need to be able to = provide=20 info to them that shows we are giving consideration to people from all = walks of=20 life. And also this may be useful for Christian Family membership as the = Nistri=20 clan expands
 
Hope nobody minds me putting my Northern Twopeneth=20 in
And anybody with jobs paying over £5 per hr = give us=20 northern boys a ring as we'll take them off your hands.
 
Simon Barlow
Chevy Ex-fingers
 
And just a short one before i go back to the = coalface=20
Well done to fingers 6 for winning all there games = at tour 3=20 keep it up boys (and ladies)
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BEB35A.63012300-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 17:36:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07517 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:34:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07502 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:34:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f179.hotmail.com [216.32.181.179]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29347 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:34:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 61937 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 1999 16:34:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990610163404.61936.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.125.60.119 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:34:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.125.60.119] From: Tim Davies To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ride to Southampton from London??? Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:34:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi. My name is Tim Davies. I am a Canadian over in Ireland for a while and playing for the Pookas in the upcoming Southampton Tourney. I am trying to see a bit of the world and flying in and out of London so I can try to see some tennis on Fri (25th). If someone could please give me a ride (In a car.... I mean... a drive - get your minds out of the gutter!) I would greatly appreciate it. In terms of convenience, I would like to see most of Friday's tennis and I need to catch a 10:15pm fight from Heathrow so if anyone could accomodate me I would be glad to chip in for gas. If you are interested drop me an email. Thanks for your time, Tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 18:26:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17452 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17433 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18825 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-058.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.58]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA09842 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:22:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002501beb366$75dce700$3aa492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Ultimate Growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:24:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Tiering the membership fee depending on whether someone receives printed copy is a possibilty. However at this early stage we need to charge everyone a proportion of the production costs however they receive the newsletter (just as we do now through team affiliation fees). If we put the newsletter online and people *don't* pay for it through their fees then we're in trouble. We might then have to broaden the requirement for membership at tournaments (e.g membership required for ALL tournaments not just National events). Otherwise we end up with loads of people getting a 'freebie' and being excluded from just the National events. Because of the need to communicate, I strongly believe that *everyone* should receive the newsletter one way or another. If players are able to opt-out then those that do choose to receive the newsletter might have to pay nearly twice as much - at least at this early stage. I think these teething troubles would only occur in the first couple of years of the association where we would be relying on a significant proportion of players to sign up. Given twice as many members, we *could* afford to have less newsletter subscribers and economies of scale would make it much cheaper anyway. In fact if we doubled the print run the total cost of the newsletter might only increase by say, 20%. Del is correct, once you're printing above a certain number (of order 1000 according to Paul) the printing costs rapidly diminish. Sorry if my maths appears confusing but trust me we do need a good sign up rate to make this thing viable. What I would like people to consider next is the employment of the administrator which is going to be more difficult than hiring a freelance newsletter editor. Does anyone out there have any knowledge of employment law? Would it be sensible/cheapest/necessary to declare ourselves as a company or charity? Is there a legal precedent for sports organisations governing bodies? Or can we just pay someone a cheque and let them worry about the taxman? Discuss... Keep talking - I think we're getting there... Ben PS "Please Miss!, the big boys are fighting in the playground." From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 18:36:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19777 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19761 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail2.richardsbutler.com ([195.152.50.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05455 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by RBLON04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:34:44 +0100 Message-ID: <7E5A7D5DF09ED211B59C00005A410C9A0138D432@RBLON04> From: "Stanwell-Smith, Helen" To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: Ultimate Growth Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:34:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Does anyone out there have any knowledge of employment > law? Would it be sensible/cheapest/necessary to declare ourselves as a > company or charity? Is there a legal precedent for sports organisations > governing bodies? Or can we just pay someone a cheque and let them worry > about the taxman? Discuss... > Unless there are any other lawyers out there - I guess I should volunteer to research the legal side. It is a case of - I know a little but I know a man who knows a lot! I should be able to get some decent advice to you as I do work for a City law firm! If anyone else has any knowledge of the legal bit of this discussion - perhaps we could talk about it.... Ben - if you want to contact me with some more details I will see what I can do.... Helen PS - am I really admitting the fact I am a lawyer to the world and damaging my already shaky reputation in this way? ;-) RICHARDS BUTLER INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM Beaufort House 15 St Botolph Street London EC3A 7EE England Authorised by the Law Society to conduct investment business. The partners of Richards Butler are either solicitors or registered foreign lawyers. A full list of partners and their professional qualifications is available at the above address. This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 18:45:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21574 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:45:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21564 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:45:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from kochanski.fishing.net (IDENT:tfc97@dialup01.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.43.64]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19767 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:45:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (tfc97@localhost) by kochanski.fishing.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01286 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:16:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: kochanski.fishing.net: tfc97 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:16:44 +0100 (GMT) From: Tom Coerkamp X-Sender: tfc97@kochanski.fishing.net To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Cheap Discs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm from the Imperial College Ultimate club, and we're looking for anyone who can sell us about 15-20 discs for about 6-8 pounds each. We need to buy some quickly before the end of term so we don't lose the money from our budget! Cheers, TC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 10 19:46:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00829 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:45:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00824 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:45:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10819 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:45:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 10 Jun 99 19:43:14 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 10 Jun 99 19:42:46 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:42:41 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Quarry Park Open Disc Golf X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <15BFBEA21560@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Disc People, The Quarry Park Open takes place this weekend and players of all standards are welcome - it is an Open after all! We will have some people totally new to tournament play so don't worry if you are not a "serious golfer". Ultimate discs are entirely legitimate and of course I will be selling golf discs at the course, and even lending them if you are new to the sport and don't want to buy until you've tried it. It is a two day tournament but you can play just one day for half fees. The cost is 12 pounds with reduction of 2 pounds for unwaged and a further pound off for BDGA members. This includes free sandwiches and soft drinks both days. There will be fun prizes and awards too. Camping on the course is free and there will be a barbecue on Saturday evening. The course is just outside Leamington Spa in Warwickshire. There is some info on the course on the web at www.ultimateweb.co.uk/bdga/courses.htm or at www.discgolf.co.uk Contact me at home on 01926 864136 or mobile 0780 8100380 for further details. Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 10:51:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28537 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:49:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28526 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:49:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20666 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:49:39 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:29:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF46@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: Ultimate Growth Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:29:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA28530 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Tiering the membership fee depending on whether someone > receives printed > copy is a possibilty. Glad that you are open to suggestions Ben. Please give it serious consideration. I think it could save money for everyone (and trees!). I'd be happy to work with Paul Hurt and/or yourself to model the costs more explicitly and accurately in order that you were making an informed decision. > In fact if we doubled the print run > the total cost > of the newsletter might only increase by say, 20%. Del is > correct, once > you're printing above a certain number (of order 1000 > according to Paul) the > printing costs rapidly diminish. You are failing to recognise that the print run is only 50% of the distribution costs. Automated online distribution saves that 50% as well. It's almost free no matter how many times you do it! If there's noone at the BUF capable of doing so I'd be happy to advise on how it may be done. I can't help feeling you're falling into the 'can't do, won't do' trap. > However at this early stage we need to charge everyone a > proportion of the > production costs however they receive the newsletter (just as > we do now > through team affiliation fees). A proportion, yes, but not necessarily the same proportion no matter what proportion of those costs you are responsible for. Communist Russia fell apart because it was a centralised bureaucratic economy with no incentive for cost-minimisation. Even if the fee differential is as small as £3 you will have a large body of people who will take online delivery, thus saving both the marginal print costs and post costs. These amount to no less than 85p per copy (even if you assume marginal printing costs are 30% of what I originally said - 20p (generous estimate!)), thus saving £5.95 per annum (on the assumption of 7 issues/year). £2.95 would therefore be a direct subsidiation of those people who wanted the newsletter mailing. A subsidisation, a gift to the BUF, a freebie, a bonus, a grant, something for nothing. Life is not a zero sum game. What you give to computer users does not get taken away from others, it gets given to them too! Wow! I like that, don't you? > However at this early stage If I had a pound every time a client had said that to me I'd be a very rich man. They all say it; later on they all admit they were wrong. In New Media there are hundreds of examples of companies moving too slowly, hardly any of companies moving too quickly. BT moved too slowly on free internet access, Freeserve is now floating for £2bn. Ouch, that hurts. BT were one of my clients, they didn't take our advice. > Sorry if my maths appears confusing but trust me we do need a > good sign up > rate to make this thing viable. Confusing? There was no maths in your response at all!!!! Oh, sorry - just noticed the vague reference to 20% of an unspecified number:-/. Trust you? Not if you're going to make an important decision based on an utterly inadequate decision framework. Not now, not ever. I proved Newsletter production and distribution costs were likely to cost the BUF, us, at least £17K a year. I'd like to see at least a proportion of that spent on something more valuable if it can be saved. Wouldn't you? This is the era of democracy and open government: if your idea of a good sign-up rate is 100%, and you're convinced that you need that in order to make this thing viable - PROVE IT. I bet you you can't - your arguments hold very little water. In fact, in the more normal spirit of debate on Britdisc, I'm prepared to bet you five pints of beer you can't. Maybe Laura, as BUF pres, would act as judge (Laura?). > Keep talking - I think we're getting there... Your initial willingness to listen made me think so, but the unfounded conviction with which you continued made me doubt it. Cy'all PieBoy > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Ravilious > Sent: 10 June 1999 18:24 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Re: Ultimate Growth > > > Dear all, > > Tiering the membership fee depending on whether someone > receives printed > copy is a possibilty. > > However at this early stage we need to charge everyone a > proportion of the > production costs however they receive the newsletter (just as > we do now > through team affiliation fees). If we put the newsletter > online and people > *don't* pay for it through their fees then we're in trouble. > We might then > have to broaden the requirement for membership at tournaments (e.g > membership required for ALL tournaments not just National > events). Otherwise > we end up with loads of people getting a 'freebie' and being > excluded from > just the National events. > > Because of the need to communicate, I strongly believe that *everyone* > should receive the newsletter one way or another. If players > are able to > opt-out then those that do choose to receive the newsletter > might have to > pay nearly twice as much - at least at this early stage. > > I think these teething troubles would only occur in the first > couple of > years of the association where we would be relying on a significant > proportion of players to sign up. Given twice as many > members, we *could* > afford to have less newsletter subscribers and economies of > scale would make > it much cheaper anyway. In fact if we doubled the print run > the total cost > of the newsletter might only increase by say, 20%. Del is > correct, once > you're printing above a certain number (of order 1000 > according to Paul) the > printing costs rapidly diminish. > > Sorry if my maths appears confusing but trust me we do need a > good sign up > rate to make this thing viable. > > > What I would like people to consider next is the employment of the > administrator which is going to be more difficult than hiring > a freelance > newsletter editor. Does anyone out there have any knowledge > of employment > law? Would it be sensible/cheapest/necessary to declare ourselves as a > company or charity? Is there a legal precedent for sports > organisations > governing bodies? Or can we just pay someone a cheque and let > them worry > about the taxman? Discuss... > > Keep talking - I think we're getting there... > > Ben > PS "Please Miss!, the big boys are fighting in the playground." > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 11:38:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08657 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:36:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08649 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:36:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26157 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:36:38 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:16:48 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF4B@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: BRITDISC Subject: FW: Warning! Worm virus being sent to ServletExec Interest list a uthors, don't open attachments like: zipped_files.exe Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:16:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This time it's a virus warning which is not a joke - just ask the BBC (no email facilities for 2 days now), Sky (it trashed half their systems) or half the banks - who aren't letting employees use mail programs at all. Get your anti-virus programs on the case and be safe. pieboy > -----Original Message----- > From: Nik Cuckson > Sent: 10 June 1999 17:26 > To: All Oyster Employees > Subject: FW: Warning! Worm virus being sent to > ServletExec Interest list autho rs, don't open > attachments like: zipped_files.exe > > Just received this mail from a list server ... this is a new > virus ... beware of mail attachments... description of the > virus is at the bottom of this message > > -----Original Message----- > From: Craig J. Detter [SMTP:craig@Detter.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 5:21 PM > To: ServletExec-Interest ServletExec (E-mail) > Subject: Warning! Worm virus being sent to ServletExec > Interest list autho rs, don't open attachments like: > zipped_files.exe > > I received two email messages today from someone in Europe > the subject line > came from a message I posted to the ServletExec Interest list. > > The description of this virus is: > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/worm.explore.zip.html > > This is a description I pulled from Symantec: > > Worm.ExploreZip > > Virus Name: Worm.ExploreZip > Infection Length: 210,432 bytes > Area of Infection: C:\Windows\System\, Email Attachments > Likelihood: Common > Detected as of: June 6, 1999 > Characteristics: Worm, Trojan Horse > > <<...>> > Description: > Worm.ExploreZip is a worm that contains a malicious payload. The worm > utilizes MAPI commands and Microsoft Outlook on Windows > systems to propagate > itself. The worm was first discovered in Israel and submitted to the > Symantec AntiVirus Research Center on June 6, 1999. > The worm e-mails itself out as an attachment with the filename > "zipped_files.exe". The body of the e-mail message may appear > to come from a > known e-mail correspondent and contains the following text: > Hi Receipient Name! > > I received your email and I shall send you a reply ASAP. > > Till then, take a look at the attached zipped docs. > > bye > The worm determines whom to mail this message to by going through your > received messages in your Inbox. > Once the attachment is executed, it may display the following window: > <<...>> > The worm proceeds to copy itself to the c:\windows\system > directory with the > filename "Explore.exe" and then modifies the WIN.INI file so, > the program is > executed each time Windows is started. The worm then utilizes > your e-mail > client to harvest e-mail addresses in order to propagate > itself. One may > notice their e-mail client start when this occurs. > <<...>> > Payload: > In addition, when Worm.ExploreZip is executed, it also > searches through the > C through Z drives of your computer system and selects a > series of files of > any file extension to destroy by making them 0 bytes long. > This can result > in non-recoverable data and/or computer system. > <<...>> > Repair Notes: > To remove this worm, one should perform the following steps: > Remove the line run=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\Explore.exe from > the WIN.INI > file > Delete the file "C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\EXPLORE.EXE". One may need to > reboot first, if the file is currently in use. > Norton AntiVirus users can protect themselves from this worm > by downloading > the current virus definitions either through LiveUpdate or from the > following webpage: > > Write-up by: Eric Chien > Update: June 9, 1999 > > > ------------------------ ServletExec-Interest ------------------------ > To unsubscribe, send email to list-requests@newatlanta.com and put the > command "unsubscribe servletexec" in the body of the message. > > Archives: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 12:09:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15838 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:08:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15832 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:08:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00395 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:08:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from postcard.kscl.com ([194.159.98.2]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10sPAI-0002Fp-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:08:02 +0000 Received: by POSTCARD.kscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:07:01 +0100 Message-ID: From: Fraser Macrae To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: FW: MEDIA RELEASE: 'ZippedFiles' or 'ExploreZip' spreads like Mel issa Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:06:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk definitely not a hoax. It took out 80% of scottish office yesterday, attacked SKy and loads of other companies around. we've had calls from all local papers here in Edinburgh. And all our suppliers. check local and national press today and tomorrow for more info. Fraser Sneeekys > ---------- > From: Marita Nasman-Repo[SMTP:Marita.Nasman-Repo@DataFellows.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 8:14 PM > To: press-english-technical@lists.datafellows.com; > press-english-interest@lists.datafellows.com; > press-pr@lists.datafellows.com; > press-english-virus-announcement@lists.datafellows.com > Subject: MEDIA RELEASE: 'ZippedFiles' or 'ExploreZip' spreads like > Melissa > > > This press release comes from Data Fellows. For more information on > Data Fellows' mailing list policy, see end of message. > > Press release > > For immediate release > > A new e-mail worm spreading globally > > 'ZippedFiles' or 'ExploreZip' spreads like Melissa > > Espoo, Finland, June 10, 1999 - A new e-mail worm has been found and is > spreading rapidly through the Internet. This virus works like a chain > letter > and carries a destructive payload. So far, it has been reported from a > dozen > countries, including USA, Germany, Norway, Israel and the Czech Republic. > The > virus is expected to spread globally within hours. > > This virus is known as either 'ZippedFiles' or 'ExploreZip'. It arrives to > a > user via an e-mail attachment. When the attachment is opened, the virus > will > browse through the inbox of the Microsoft Outlook e-mail program and will > send > a reply to every message. > > As a result, if a user called John Doe has recently received an e-mail > from > Jane Smith with the subject 'Please check these numbers', John's machine > will > automatically send a message which will look like this: > > From: John Doe > To: Jane Smith > Subject: RE: Please check these numbers > > Hi Jane > > I have received your email and I shall send you a reply ASAP. > Till then take a look at the attached zipped docs. > Sincerely > John. > > Attachment: zipped_files.exe > > The attachment looks like a WinZip archive file. When the received tries > to > unpack it by double-clicking it, he will get a WinZip error message > complaining > about a broken archive: > > Cannot open file: it does not appear to be a valid archive. > If this file is part of a ZIP format backup set, insert the last disk of > the > backup set and try again. > Please press F1 for help. > > In addition to spreading like a chain letter, the virus will try to > overwrite > the user's files on any accessible drives, including all network drives. > The > files that are overwritten must have one of these extensions: > > DOC - Microsoft Word documents > XLS - Microsoft Excel spreadsheets > PPT - Microsoft PowerPoint presentations > ASM - Assembler source files > CPP - C++ source files > > If the recipient is using an e-mail system other than Microsoft Outlook, > ZippedFiles will not spread further. However, it will damage the > recipient's > files. 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When I ask for input on a proposal which is still a million miles from completion why should I receive abuse? The reason I'm sticking this on Britdisc is *precisely because* it hasn't been worked out thoroughly yet - It gives everyone a chance to play a part in shaping it and helps us get it right. *Of course* we will have to look at the maths in more detail and I'm sure your calculations will be helpful. Ben :-( PS thanks to Max, and Helen for suggestions on the employment side of things. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson To: BRITDISC Date: 11 June 1999 10:52 Subject: RE: Ultimate Growth > Tiering the membership fee depending on whether someone > receives printed > copy is a possibilty. Glad that you are open to suggestions Ben. Please give it serious consideration. I think it could save money for everyone (and trees!). I'd be happy to work with Paul Hurt and/or yourself to model the costs more explicitly and accurately in order that you were making an informed decision. > In fact if we doubled the print run > the total cost > of the newsletter might only increase by say, 20%. Del is > correct, once > you're printing above a certain number (of order 1000 > according to Paul) the > printing costs rapidly diminish. You are failing to recognise that the print run is only 50% of the distribution costs. Automated online distribution saves that 50% as well. It's almost free no matter how many times you do it! If there's noone at the BUF capable of doing so I'd be happy to advise on how it may be done. I can't help feeling you're falling into the 'can't do, won't do' trap. > However at this early stage we need to charge everyone a > proportion of the > production costs however they receive the newsletter (just as > we do now > through team affiliation fees). A proportion, yes, but not necessarily the same proportion no matter what proportion of those costs you are responsible for. Communist Russia fell apart because it was a centralised bureaucratic economy with no incentive for cost-minimisation. Even if the fee differential is as small as £3 you will have a large body of people who will take online delivery, thus saving both the marginal print costs and post costs. These amount to no less than 85p per copy (even if you assume marginal printing costs are 30% of what I originally said - 20p (generous estimate!)), thus saving £5.95 per annum (on the assumption of 7 issues/year). £2.95 would therefore be a direct subsidiation of those people who wanted the newsletter mailing. A subsidisation, a gift to the BUF, a freebie, a bonus, a grant, something for nothing. Life is not a zero sum game. What you give to computer users does not get taken away from others, it gets given to them too! Wow! I like that, don't you? > However at this early stage If I had a pound every time a client had said that to me I'd be a very rich man. They all say it; later on they all admit they were wrong. In New Media there are hundreds of examples of companies moving too slowly, hardly any of companies moving too quickly. BT moved too slowly on free internet access, Freeserve is now floating for £2bn. Ouch, that hurts. BT were one of my clients, they didn't take our advice. > Sorry if my maths appears confusing but trust me we do need a > good sign up > rate to make this thing viable. Confusing? There was no maths in your response at all!!!! Oh, sorry - just noticed the vague reference to 20% of an unspecified number:-/. Trust you? Not if you're going to make an important decision based on an utterly inadequate decision framework. Not now, not ever. I proved Newsletter production and distribution costs were likely to cost the BUF, us, at least £17K a year. I'd like to see at least a proportion of that spent on something more valuable if it can be saved. Wouldn't you? This is the era of democracy and open government: if your idea of a good sign-up rate is 100%, and you're convinced that you need that in order to make this thing viable - PROVE IT. I bet you you can't - your arguments hold very little water. In fact, in the more normal spirit of debate on Britdisc, I'm prepared to bet you five pints of beer you can't. Maybe Laura, as BUF pres, would act as judge (Laura?). > Keep talking - I think we're getting there... Your initial willingness to listen made me think so, but the unfounded conviction with which you continued made me doubt it. Cy'all PieBoy > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Ravilious > Sent: 10 June 1999 18:24 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Re: Ultimate Growth > > > Dear all, > > Tiering the membership fee depending on whether someone > receives printed > copy is a possibilty. > > However at this early stage we need to charge everyone a > proportion of the > production costs however they receive the newsletter (just as > we do now > through team affiliation fees). If we put the newsletter > online and people > *don't* pay for it through their fees then we're in trouble. > We might then > have to broaden the requirement for membership at tournaments (e.g > membership required for ALL tournaments not just National > events). Otherwise > we end up with loads of people getting a 'freebie' and being > excluded from > just the National events. > > Because of the need to communicate, I strongly believe that *everyone* > should receive the newsletter one way or another. If players > are able to > opt-out then those that do choose to receive the newsletter > might have to > pay nearly twice as much - at least at this early stage. > > I think these teething troubles would only occur in the first > couple of > years of the association where we would be relying on a significant > proportion of players to sign up. Given twice as many > members, we *could* > afford to have less newsletter subscribers and economies of > scale would make > it much cheaper anyway. In fact if we doubled the print run > the total cost > of the newsletter might only increase by say, 20%. Del is > correct, once > you're printing above a certain number (of order 1000 > according to Paul) the > printing costs rapidly diminish. > > Sorry if my maths appears confusing but trust me we do need a > good sign up > rate to make this thing viable. > > > What I would like people to consider next is the employment of the > administrator which is going to be more difficult than hiring > a freelance > newsletter editor. Does anyone out there have any knowledge > of employment > law? Would it be sensible/cheapest/necessary to declare ourselves as a > company or charity? Is there a legal precedent for sports > organisations > governing bodies? Or can we just pay someone a cheque and let > them worry > about the taxman? Discuss... > > Keep talking - I think we're getting there... > > Ben > PS "Please Miss!, the big boys are fighting in the playground." > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 13:25:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02651 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:24:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02640 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:24:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27638 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:24:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10sQML-000KZP-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:24:33 +0000 Subject: RE: Ultimate Growth Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 13:25:43 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA02645 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Ultimatum printing costs: (direct from Paul Hurt, the horses mouth) >Cost of 800 copies: £575 >Therefore cost of 2000 copies: £1437.5 (but let's be kind and say we get a >discount, making it £1200) >Cost of managing print run: 3hrs @ £20/hr = £60 > >Total: £1260 >Per copy: 63p Whoa there!! The 800 copy price might be "horses mouth", but your estimate for 2000 copies is nothing to do with me! Print production doesn't work like that, due to economies of scale. I'd like to bet 2000 copies would cost nearer 8-900 max. Next, I don't think we can honestly expect to get 2000 BUA members. I'd guess more like 7-800 max right now, though I could be wrong. So let's say we were printing 600 copies instead of 800 because 200 people went for a "no-printed-copy" option. The BUF's savings would be pretty insignificant: the print cost would barely change (see above). And the total mailout cost is reduced by 350 quid over the year. Even at 25 pounds a year, the BUA can't expect to do any better than break even in its first couple of years. So a fiver discount for no-Ultimatum is unrealistic (under the above scenario, they save 350 in costs, but lose 1000 pounds turnover!). So if there was to be a no-Ultimatum option, the BUA could only afford to pass on the true saving, which amounts to a massive £1.75 per subscriber. What I'm saying is that a "no-Ultimatum" subscription would reduce your membership charge from £25 to just £23.25. How many people think that the bother of downloading and printing out 6 Ultimatums a year is worth saving a whole £1.75 ? By the way, downloading and printing out Ultimatum doesn't save any trees. In fact, it probably uses *more* paper, because few people can be arsed to print it double-sided. (Anyway, paper used for print comes from sustainable forests grown specifically for the purpose, so tree-saving isn't really an issue.) I'm all for on-line availability of Ultimatum (it's much appreciated by foreign and casual readers), but it isn't a device that will save the BUA any money (in fact it costs money, because of the additional time involved creating PDFs, uploading them, and updating the web site). The only way online distribution would save money would be if we didn't print or mail out ANY copies at all, which is a nice idea, but isn't an option. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 13:25:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02632 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:24:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02624 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:24:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09498 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:24:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10sQMT-000KZP-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:24:42 +0000 Subject: RE: Ultimate Growth Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 13:25:52 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA02625 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I proved Newsletter production and distribution costs were likely to cost >the BUF, us, at least £17K a year. I don't think you did. You admitted that your maths was all fag-packet guesswork. This hardly constitutes proof. Truth is, the print and distribution costs will be about £6000 per year, based on 800 paid-up members and six black and white 12-page issues per year. This is NOT however the total cost of producing Ultimatum. There are other very significant costs (notably the cost of editing, design and production) which will be incurred regardless of whether it's printed or electronic. These costs are pretty much fixed - they're the same whether we have 200 members or 2000. That's why the size of the membership is such a crucial factor. Unfortunately it's also the biggest unknown - we only have educated guesses as to how many players will actually become members. >I'd like to see at least a proportion of that spent on something more >valuable if it can be saved. Wouldn't you? See my previous posting - although there are benefits to having Ultimatum available online, saving money isn't likely to be one of them. Unless, as I say, we don't bother printing it at all. >if your idea of a good >sign-up rate is 100%, and you're convinced that you need that in order to >make this thing viable - PROVE IT. I bet you you can't - your arguments hold >very little water. In fact, in the more normal spirit of debate on Britdisc, >I'm prepared to bet you five pints of beer you can't. I can back MY figures up with six whole spreadsheets full of costings, which took three days to produce, involving analysis of my old timesheets and obtaining complex quotes from suppliers. I don't know if Ben, Laura and Ian went to these lengths, but I certainly did. So can *I* claim some of this beer? Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 13:31:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04310 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:30:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04283 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:30:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28130 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:30:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:26:08 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:29:59 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED46E@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Tom Coerkamp'" Subject: RE: Cheap Discs Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:29:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA04287 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you that haven't been to a tournament for a while The NEW BUF discs are available £7ea; £6ea if you buy 10 or more; £5ea if you buy 20 or more - £4 if you are a school kiddie. Contact me ; Here Chris Hughes PS Adam Harras has different designs available - but he is more expensive than me (any one can tell you I'm cheap and easy!) > ---------- > From: Tom Coerkamp[SMTP:tfc97@doc.ic.ac.uk] > Sent: 10 June 1999 18:16 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Cheap Discs > > Hi, > > I'm from the Imperial College Ultimate club, and we're looking for anyone > who can sell us about 15-20 discs for about 6-8 pounds each. We need to > buy some quickly before the end of term so we don't lose the money from > our budget! > > Cheers, > TC > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 14:16:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14717 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:15:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14704 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:15:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00732 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:14:55 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 17034 invoked from network); 11 Jun 1999 13:14:49 -0000 Received: from dyn150-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.150) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 11 Jun 1999 13:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <37610B5D.9A6C6AD4@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:13:01 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: [Fwd: New Pull Rules: Official] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------67D6C822AB3FA37F39AAF70B" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------67D6C822AB3FA37F39AAF70B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------67D6C822AB3FA37F39AAF70B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: peldi@mailbox.dsnet.it Received: (qmail 31928 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 23:52:26 -0000 Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de (@129.13.10.100) by mailbox.dsnet.it with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 23:52:26 -0000 Received: from ira.uka.de by irafs1.ira.uka.de id <05292-0@irafs1.ira.uka.de>; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:45:29 +0200 Errors-To: EuroDisc-owner@ira.uka.de Sender: EuroDisc-owner@ira.uka.de To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de From: Peldi Reply-To: Peldi Subject: New Pull Rules: Official Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:45:29 +0200 Message-ID: <"irafs1.ira.303:10.06.99.23.45.37"@ira.uka.de> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Ciao, the following is taken from the WUCC99 web site: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ ---------- 404.05 D. (5) Interference Original text: No player on the throwing team may touch the throw-off in the air before it is touched by a member of the receiving team. Addition: No member on the throwing team may intercept the disc in connection with a failed attempt by the receiving team to catch the throw-off. 404.05 D. (7) Reception in Endzone Whenever a player obtains possession of the throw-off within the end-zone he or she is defending, that player shall put the disc into play from the point he or she took possession. Failing to catch after touching (Replacement rule 404.05 D (8) Whenever a member of the receiving team touches the disc during its flight (whether in or out-of bounds) in a genuine attempt to catch the disc, and the receiving team subsequently fails to catch the disc prior to its touching the ground, the player that tried to catch the disc can pick it up from where it stops. If the first touch on the disc during its flight is anything other than a genuine attempt to catch the disc, and the receiving team subsequently fails to catch the disc prior to its touching the ground, the team throwing-off regains possession of the disc where it stops. NOTE: this means you can drop the pull and still keep possession. ---------- Not bad huh? Peldi --------------67D6C822AB3FA37F39AAF70B-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 14:43:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20772 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:41:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20754 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:41:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02617 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:41:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:37:17 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:41:04 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED474@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BUF LISTBOT'" , "'u8c'" , "'BritDisc'" Cc: "'Mez'" Subject: FW: New rules for ultimate Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:41:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA20758 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All; here is the website address for the new rules - you may have also seen Peldi's mail go round. As expected little has changed, despite our protestations, although we were able to affect one major change. Players can only put the disc in play from where they picked the disc up - ie you can no longer walk the disc to the front of the endzone if the disc does not roll out of play from the pull. There are also a number of clarifications on 'dropping' the pull. These are effectively; 1. the throwing team cannot catch and gain possession from a mac'ed pull. 2. If a valid attempt to catch a pull is dropped; no problem. If a deliberate attempt to knock the disc down / forward is made then the throwing team gets possession (Room for a good argument there) No clarification on if someone other than the attempting catcher can then pick up possession. The rules on the four corner discs, brick points, and time between points stand. Chris Hughes DoC For BUF and U8C only; Since these are now part of the official rules I can see no good reason why those feasible rules should not be incorporated into competition now. If you have a good reason say so. The rules on the Pull and Brick marks can be done now. Corner disc are feasible but teams playing have to provide five good discs. (To save the stupid questions; game disc + four corner discs) However teams need to organise replacing them, and also as often pitches are close together they need to organise recovery of the old disc - presumably from the middle of another game. Timing is unfeasible unless team Captains can agree an unbiased timekeeper with suitable watch(es) > ---------- > From: Dan Engström[SMTP:dan.ib@telia.com] > Sent: 09 June 1999 20:42 > To: lorne@orl.mcgill.ca; CHughes@chelt.ac.uk; > Jonathan.Potts@aspect.com.au; troy@u.washington.edu; > pasi.tuulosniemi@iki.fi > Subject: New rules for ultimate > > Dear friends, > > The revisions to the new WFDF rules for ultimate are now in their > final phase. The rules should be published at > http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99 within a few days. I would like to > thank you especially for your input. You have all had influence on > the final appearance of the rules. > > Best wishes, > Dan Engstrom > WFDF Ultimate Committee > > dan.ib@telia.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 11 21:58:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03693 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:56:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03688 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:56:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21418 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:56:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-046.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.46]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA01699 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:53:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01d901beb44d$2fddd060$2ea492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Association Budget Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:55:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C7_01BEB455.181B1340" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C7_01BEB455.181B1340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I haven't gone into the nitty-gritty of the newsletter costs in any detail as to some extent they don't affect the overall viability of the association proposal. If we can make savings by reducing the amount of printing then so much the better. At this stage we estimate the newsletter might cost of order £8,000 per year and that is what I am basing "back of fag packet" calculations on. We have to add the costs of a part-time admin plus other admin costs (£7000?). I am praying that the taxman isn't going to demand a cut of the salary. I concur with Pauls estimate of around 700 initial members which would yield a sum of order £14K which is around breakeven (bearing in mind that the student won't be paying the full £25 - more like £15). Clearly the percentage of student/unwaged players is an important consideration. We do also have the luxury of quite a healthy float due to the dearth of newsletters in the past couple of years. This could prove quite a useful cushion until such time as we get increased membership. My next task is to ascertain just exactly how many people really play this sport, what proportion are students and how many members we might expect on formation of the association. My most recent subs form returns point to around 2000 people with some connection to an ultimate team. Trouble is, many of the uni teams will have put down how many they *recruited*, not how many actually play on a regular basis. For more accurate numbers I think we should look at Tour/Indoor Nationals attendance, thus:- 40 Tour teams x 11 players (average) = 440 players ALSO, 80 Indoor national teams (20 per region?) x 8 players (average) = 640 players. As these two don't overlap completely, plus the fact that most teams will have different players going to different events, I think its fair to say 700 is a good first estimate. If anyone would like to challenge these figures or volunteer to count players(!) then please feel free... In the meantime I have attached (sorry majordomo!) an silly little excel 97 spreadsheet which people might like to play with. If it doesn't get through to Britdisc then I will email it to individuals on request. 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------=_NextPart_000_01C7_01BEB455.181B1340-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jun 12 19:56:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10648 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:55:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10642 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:55:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15383 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:55:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from couplehood.demon.co.uk ([212.229.115.75]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10sswS-0004N2-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:55:44 +0000 Message-ID: <3I3eVFAizqY3EwjN@couplehood.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:54:26 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Koon Keen Hoong & Adeline Fonseka-Koon Subject: Sunday PLay at Kensington Gardens In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED46E@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to let all you London players know, Simon from First Touch is has started up a Sunday pickup practice at the fields next to the Albert Memorial on Sundays at around 2pm. Anyone interested in playing in some lovely surroundings amidst tourists, skaters, hockey players and sun bathers (Sun? What sun?) then do turn up. As per usual everyone is welcome, all standards etc. etc. Cheers and Beers, Adam Keen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 12:42:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20409 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:40:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20399 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:40:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [194.126.80.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18951 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:40:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from p41s12a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.140.66] helo=cow) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10t8cl-0006PK-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:40:28 +0100 Message-ID: <002401beb591$64b19e80$428c93c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Tour IV latest Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:38:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEB599.ABB76820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEB599.ABB76820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi BD, here is the up to date list of teams entered into Tour IV. Twin Peaks Chevron Druids Albatross BAF 1&2 First Touch UTI Slipdisc MMJ Mohawk Mwnci Magic Catch 22 4 Non Blondes Overflow Sharks Skunks Pookas (confirmation of BUF taxes required) Teams that have paid their deposits for the event but haven't paid their = tournament fees are as follows: Strange Blue Bliss Gael Force Nightfever Headrush Phat'Eds Red 1&2 SOUP Wyld Stallions Kniggets If these teams or any other teams would like to enter the event then = send a cheque payable to S.U.Frisbee for =A380 to the address below. Iain Roberts 38 Church Lane Highfield Southampton SO17 1SZ If any teams want to receive paper packs then e-mail an address for me = to send it to and I will post it on (This is to keep the cost of = photocopies down and save on trees). Cheers Iain Skunks ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEB599.ABB76820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi BD,
    here is the up to = date list=20 of teams entered into Tour IV.
 
Twin Peaks
Chevron
Druids
Albatross
BAF 1&2
First Touch
UTI
Slipdisc
MMJ
Mohawk Mwnci Magic
Catch 22
4 Non Blondes
Overflow
Sharks
Skunks
 
Pookas (confirmation of BUF taxes = required)
 
Teams that have paid their deposits for the event = but haven't=20 paid their tournament fees are as follows:
 
Strange Blue
Bliss
Gael Force
Nightfever
Headrush
Phat'Eds
Red 1&2
SOUP
Wyld Stallions
Kniggets
 
If these teams or any other teams would like to = enter the=20 event then send a cheque payable to S.U.Frisbee for £80 to the = address=20 below.
 
Iain Roberts
38 Church Lane
Highfield
Southampton
SO17 1SZ
 
If any teams want to receive paper packs then e-mail = an=20 address for me to send it to and I will post it on  (This is to = keep the=20 cost of photocopies down and save on trees).
 
Cheers
 
Iain
Skunks
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEB599.ABB76820-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 17:09:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17535 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:07:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17523 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:07:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24392 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:07:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10tCnT-000Bgl-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:07:48 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:06:01 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Subject: UK Ultimate Demographics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Those statistics I mentioned in another post: >Existing and future potential >Demographics - who plays Ultimate? >A player questionnaire conducted in June 1993 at a national tournament >produced the following results. > >Age > - 19 2% >20 - 24 41% >25 - 29 37% >30 - 39 19% >40 + 1% > >Marital Status >Single 68% >Married/Living with partner 31% >Divorced/Separated 1% > >Employment Status >Full time paid 63% >Part time paid 2% >Full time home/child care 1% >Full time education 23% >Unemployed 6% >Other 5% > >Income > - £5,000 31% > £5,000 - £10,000 6% >£10,000 - £15,000 17% >£15,000 - £20,000 21% >£20,000 - £25,000 10% >£25,000 - £30,000 5% >£30,000 + 10% > >Social Class (based on occupation) >I Professional 26% >II Managerial 30% >III Skilled non manual 1% >IV Skilled manual 5% >V Partly skilled 5% > Student 26% > >Sex >Male 85% >Female 15% Wayne Retter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 17:09:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17556 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:07:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17539 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:07:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12097 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:07:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10tCnW-000Bgo-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:07:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:16:58 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Subject: Admin Queries References: <01d901beb44d$2fddd060$2ea492c3@pii266> In-Reply-To: <01d901beb44d$2fddd060$2ea492c3@pii266> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before starting on Ben's post, a couple of other suggestions/queries: 1) are the BUF treasurer's report/accounts for the last couple of years available yet? They used to contain accurate figures on the income/expenditure of the BUF, and would give people interested in the association vs. federation discussion a little more factual data on where (in the past) the money comes from/goes (i.e. now that they seem relevant, more people may read them!) Also, in this vein, I'm interested in what effect the evolution of the Ultim8 Tour has had on the cash flow. 2) It is my belief that BUF registered clubs should receive up to date copies of the WFDF Rules Booklet as a part of their affiliation fee. I haven't seen a new one for a while (I've got the Druids' orange covered 1995 Eighth Edition copy, and I know that the 1998 Eleventh Edition is on the WFDF website). Is this issue still supposed to happen? If so, could we please have a copy? I appreciate that the BUF does not have to stick to the WFDF Rules for domestic competition (the UPA has their own set of rules), but it would be nice to know where the differences are, and for the WUCC/GB teams to be able to know exactly where they _could_ come unstuck due to such differences. Cheers Wayne Retter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 17:09:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17575 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:08:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17570 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:08:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24395 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:08:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10tCnT-000Bgk-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:07:48 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:50:34 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Association Budget References: <01d901beb44d$2fddd060$2ea492c3@pii266> In-Reply-To: <01d901beb44d$2fddd060$2ea492c3@pii266> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben Ravilious writes >We have to add the costs of a part-time admin plus other admin costs >(£7000?). I am praying that the taxman isn't going to demand a cut of the >salary. Don't the BUF treasury records hold more accurate details of the admin costs? Reimbursements for phone calls, photocopying, postage, etc, cost of development programs, etc... Are you're "back of a fag packet" figures based on these, suitably projected/adjusted/rounded? Very vague memories, but - didn't the BUF have a part-time/volunteer administrator for a time? What's the story here? Since the post doesn't _seem_ to exist any more, I assume that there were reasons for the trial to terminate... what were those reasons, and what were the lessons learned? Will a _part-time_ administrator cover the job sufficiently? This will obviously depend upon the responsibilities of the post - are there yet any propositions as to what they would be (or, for that matter, currently ARE) I'm assuming that the association would be really looking for someone who will spend X regular planned hours per week administering the BUA (is/was this the proposed name? I'm assuming that this is still open to negotiation too, though someone got to BUPA before us...) rather than trying to squeeze them in around their other job(s)? Or not? dependent upon responsibilities, the time demand could fluctuate. >From the current setup, there just aren't enough hours in the day for our volunteer committees to do a normal days work, AND do their BUF stuff. Obviously this is a scenario to be fixed/avoided. If there aren't more volunteers, the obvious option is a salaried administrator. Anyone got any input on the way other countries do things? Various Swedish CLUBS have employed administrators, the UPA has salaried staff. I'm not suggesting that these organisations should be idols, but aspects should be used for role modelling. >For more accurate numbers I think we should look at Tour/Indoor Nationals >attendance, thus:- > >40 Tour teams x 11 players (average) = 440 players Can we not be more accurate in our estimations? Most Tour teams are ROSTERED, and have handed in their rosters. The unrostered teams could be persuaded to jot down some kind of team list (so far, the core of such teams hasn't changed dramatically, has it?) There's nearly a census here... (How do we guarantee that a proper census gets to everybody? I guess that all those that care and can be bothered will find out, but...) OK, some clubs have rostered their 'infrequent appearances' as well as their 'core players', but one could assume (damn, the inaccuracy strikes back!) that these 'infrequents' would subscribe to the association in order to be kept up to date - e.g. I don't remember seeing many Lurkers at Tour Events this year, yet, but they're planning to host their own tournament... Wayne Retter PS: In June 1993 Sean Young conducted a survey at the Samurai (now Headrush) Fiesta, and produced some demographic figures about UK Ultimate, based upon the results. His data sample wasn't huge (just the players, of the 16 teams at the event, that could be bothered to complete and return the survey.) and therefore those figures may be _slightly_ biased, for various reasons, but they're interesting enough to make it worthwhile re-running the survey. Anyone have any good ideas on: a) how to get the survey to everyone (if we could do this, we could conduct a census!); b) provide the incentives for: (i) people to complete the survey; (ii) the answers to be serious; (iii) the answers to be returned! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 18:16:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25843 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:14:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25797 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:14:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from ns0.infotrade.co.uk ([194.72.246.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15800 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:14:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1.infotrade.co.uk (mail1.infotrade.co.uk [194.72.246.14]) by ns0.infotrade.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA26932 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:24:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from d0097469@infotrade.co.uk) Received: from mail1.infotrade.co.uk ;13 Jun 1999 18:02:41 Received: from liv413.infotrade.co.uk ;Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:14:51 Received: by liv413.infotrade.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BEB5C6.8D6DFBE0@liv413.infotrade.co.uk>; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:59:59 +-100 Message-ID: <01BEB5C6.8D6DFBE0@liv413.infotrade.co.uk> From: NIALL GOGGIN To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Tracksuit bottoms........ Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:59:05 +-100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BEB5C6.8D8665E0" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ------ =_NextPart_000_01BEB5C6.8D8665E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, It appears that the entire Ultimate community has charged me with = looking after their stray tracksuit bottoms!!!! I have always had an = affinity with children and animals but it is a first to have hoards of = items of clothing strangely attracted to me! However as this has only = occurred since the rain at Edinburgh I can only assume that my bag was = the closest to hand when the downpour started! So, if you are suffering = from a lackage of trousers please let me know and I shall endeavour to = return absentees to their owners asap!!=20 Cheers.=20 Loose.xx (Slipdisc/BAF) D0097469@infotrade.co.uk ------ =_NextPart_000_01BEB5C6.8D8665E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjsQAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQSQBgCkAQAAAQAAAA0AAAADAAAwBQAAAAsADw4AAAAAAgH/DwEA AABVAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAJ2JyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVr JwBTTVRQAGJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrAAAAAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAA HgADMAEAAAAbAAAAYnJpdGRpc2NAY3N2LndhcndpY2suYWMudWsAAAMAFQwBAAAAAgH5DwEAAABV AAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAJ2JyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrJwBT TVRQAGJyaXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrAAAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAdAAAAJ2Jy aXRkaXNjQGNzdi53YXJ3aWNrLmFjLnVrJwAAAAACAQswAQAAACAAAABTTVRQOkJSSVRESVNDQENT Vi5XQVJXSUNLLkFDLlVLAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAFAFwBBIABABoA AABUcmFja3N1aXQgYm90dG9tcy4uLi4uLi4uAFIIAQWAAwAOAAAAzwcGAA0AEQA7AAUAAAA6AQEg gAMADgAAAM8HBgANABEAOwAFAAAAOgEBCYABACEAAABFMzdBNTE3REI3MjFEMzExQjA1NjQ0NDU1 MzU0MDAwMADFBgEDkAYAdAAAAAYAAABAADkAoPyCC761vgEeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4A HwwBAAAAGQAAAEQwMDk3NDY5QGluZm90cmFkZS5jby51awAAAABAAAcwYJ3lK7y1vgFAAAgwoPyC C761vgEeAD0AAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAdBg= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BEB5C6.8D8665E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 21:05:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13369 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13363 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21943 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-060.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.60]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA21459 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:00:48 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01a001beb5d8$2dd8d120$3ca492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: BBC Knowledge channel - response? Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:14:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Has anbody responded to this? Would be a dead easy bit of publicity for us. Do it or we send Colin!!! ;-) Ben -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Altman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 04 June 1999 14:05 Subject: Ultimate Frisbee >Don't know if anyone else recieved this query as well, but >I Thought I would pass it on to Britdisc since I think it >would be better for British Ultimate if one of the >enthusiastic and passionate people they interviewed had >more of an English accent! > >Aaron > >--- Begin Forwarded Message --- >Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:02:17 +0100 >From: Helga Berry >Subject: Ultimate Frisbee >Sender: Helga Berry >To: "'a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk'" > >Reply-To: Helga Berry >Message-ID: > > > >I am working on a series of short films for BBC Knowledge channel covering a >range of people and their life experiences or passions and am interested in >finding people who would be able to talk on film for 60 seconds about their >interest in frisbee and what they get out of the sport. > >Would you be able to supply me with a list of members of you federation in >order for me to target some potential interviewees, I am looking for lively >characters who really have a passion for the sport. > >Many thanks, > >Helga Berry >Director >New Media Unit >BBC Birmingham >x 28568 > >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > >======================================================================= > > Aaron Altman >Cranfield University Alien Nation Ultimate > ________ >E-mail: a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk \____|________\ >Phone: 011 44 1234 798 000 EXT 8862 / () D ) >WWW URL: www.cranfield.ac.uk/~a.altman/aaron.htm /_ \ > ________/_ | > "Work like a dog, ~-_-~..~- (__________)> ) | > Play like a dog" \_________/ > >"Highly Competitive play is encouraged, but never at the expense of the > bond of mutual respect between players, adherence to the agreed > upon rules of the game, or the basic joy of play" > > --------> Rules to live by! >======================================================================== > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 21:05:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13355 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13340 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00232 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-060.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.60]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA21446 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:00:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <019c01beb5d8$29543360$3ca492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Seeking team in Surrey... Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:27:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Replies to her not the BUF please! -----Original Message----- From: Janine Galloway To: BUF Date: 07 June 1999 18:30 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Janine Galloway >Address1: 9 Oak Hill >Address2: Epsom, Surrey >Post Code: KT18 7BU >Telephone: >Fax: >Message: I have played Ultimate once and very much enjoyed it. I would very much like to find out any information about any suitable clubs within my area. I am female and 28 years of age. Could you advise on any suitable clubs in my vicinity? >Thankyou. > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 21:05:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13398 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13382 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21951 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:04:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-060.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.60]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA21474 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:00:53 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01a401beb5d8$312f4f20$3ca492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Association Budget Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:03:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne, (cc Britdisc) 1. Treasury records: Have to refer you to Stebbo on this on. But, I think its fair to say that a considerably higher amount of money will be needed with an association and will be spent on costs that, in may cases (e.g. postage to individual members), have not been incurred in the past. The majority of previous BUF budgets (previously around £3000 annually) has been spent on Ultimatum so I think we would now need to look at putting aside a similar amount just for the other admin work. (Disclaimer: "Yes folks its vague - but at this stage we just to need to know that its viable"). Another task we have before us is to produce a job description for the administrator. Once this is done we will have a better idea of the admin costs (including the administrator's salary). 2. "didn't the BUF have a part-time/volunteer administrator for a time?" Volunteer - Yes, she (Jo Bates) quit due partly for personal reasons (including motherhood) and also - as far as I am aware - due to feeling perhaps that she was not being supported properly by the committee. You would have to ask members of the previous administration for the full details. Without wanting to open old wounds, I think the main lesson to be learnt here is to pay the administrator! 3. "I'm assuming that the association would be really looking for someone who will spend X regular planned hours per week administering " Correct. This is certainly a part-time position for the time being. Chris Hughes and I reckoned we would be looking at around 10 hours per week based on the work we already do (or *should* be doing!) plus the inevitable periodic extra work brought on by membership administration. A lot of things can be computerised (e.g. online updates of members' contact details and regular automatic mail-merging) - something which I would be willing and able to setup (assuming I am re-elected!) Does this sound reasonable/credible/acceptable to people? If it doesn't, then lets have *constructive* reasoning behind criticisms (please!) Ben PS - Wayne/Sean thanks for the demographics stuff - I think we may need to do something like this again - perhaps as part of the next subs form? -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Retter To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 13 June 1999 17:12 Subject: Re: Association Budget Ben Ravilious writes >We have to add the costs of a part-time admin plus other admin costs >(£7000?). I am praying that the taxman isn't going to demand a cut of the >salary. Don't the BUF treasury records hold more accurate details of the admin costs? Reimbursements for phone calls, photocopying, postage, etc, cost of development programs, etc... Are you're "back of a fag packet" figures based on these, suitably projected/adjusted/rounded? Very vague memories, but - didn't the BUF have a part-time/volunteer administrator for a time? What's the story here? Since the post doesn't _seem_ to exist any more, I assume that there were reasons for the trial to terminate... what were those reasons, and what were the lessons learned? Will a _part-time_ administrator cover the job sufficiently? This will obviously depend upon the responsibilities of the post - are there yet any propositions as to what they would be (or, for that matter, currently ARE) I'm assuming that the association would be really looking for someone who will spend X regular planned hours per week administering the BUA (is/was this the proposed name? I'm assuming that this is still open to negotiation too, though someone got to BUPA before us...) rather than trying to squeeze them in around their other job(s)? Or not? dependent upon responsibilities, the time demand could fluctuate. >From the current setup, there just aren't enough hours in the day for our volunteer committees to do a normal days work, AND do their BUF stuff. Obviously this is a scenario to be fixed/avoided. If there aren't more volunteers, the obvious option is a salaried administrator. Anyone got any input on the way other countries do things? Various Swedish CLUBS have employed administrators, the UPA has salaried staff. I'm not suggesting that these organisations should be idols, but aspects should be used for role modelling. >For more accurate numbers I think we should look at Tour/Indoor Nationals >attendance, thus:- > >40 Tour teams x 11 players (average) = 440 players Can we not be more accurate in our estimations? Most Tour teams are ROSTERED, and have handed in their rosters. The unrostered teams could be persuaded to jot down some kind of team list (so far, the core of such teams hasn't changed dramatically, has it?) There's nearly a census here... (How do we guarantee that a proper census gets to everybody? I guess that all those that care and can be bothered will find out, but...) OK, some clubs have rostered their 'infrequent appearances' as well as their 'core players', but one could assume (damn, the inaccuracy strikes back!) that these 'infrequents' would subscribe to the association in order to be kept up to date - e.g. I don't remember seeing many Lurkers at Tour Events this year, yet, but they're planning to host their own tournament... Wayne Retter PS: In June 1993 Sean Young conducted a survey at the Samurai (now Headrush) Fiesta, and produced some demographic figures about UK Ultimate, based upon the results. His data sample wasn't huge (just the players, of the 16 teams at the event, that could be bothered to complete and return the survey.) and therefore those figures may be _slightly_ biased, for various reasons, but they're interesting enough to make it worthwhile re-running the survey. Anyone have any good ideas on: a) how to get the survey to everyone (if we could do this, we could conduct a census!); b) provide the incentives for: (i) people to complete the survey; (ii) the answers to be serious; (iii) the answers to be returned! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 13 21:14:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15418 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:14:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15413 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:14:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from navy.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@navy.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.49]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23422 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:14:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by navy.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 10tGdr-0002J3-00; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:14:07 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10tGdr-00005N-00; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:14:07 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Cam 99 tournament next weekend 19-20 June Cc: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:14:07 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc, a small invitational tournament is happening this coming sat-sun 19-20 June in Cambridge. I thought we had it all wrapped up, but it turns out we have now got a VACANCY FOR ONE TEAM -owing to an unnamed pair of teams changing their minds without telling the TD. If you would like to come to play with nice teams like Nightfever, Twin Peaks, Strange Blue, Overflow, DiscGraceful this weekend, on the finest grass in England, please contact me by email or phone straight away. Details of the tournament are linked to the cambridge ultimate page, wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/cam99/ yours David P.S. Whiplash, please contact me to confirm that you and Bears are at least going to send one team between you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 07:48:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26046 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26041 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12874 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29364 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199906140647.HAA29364@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 19th June 1999 Grand Mohawk Reunion (2 days) @ various venues in Brighton [Outdoor Ultimate] It's going to be large (around150 ex-Mohawks are expected)! Contact Alex Bowers Email alex.bowers@kerryfoods.co.uk Phone 01784 430777 THE ULTIMATE DAY: Dawn till dusk outdoor charity tournament (1 day) @ Hyde Park, LEEDS [Outdoor Ultimate] £20 tournament fees per team and individual sponsorship money to Marie Curie Cancer Care. Contact Richie Slack Email r.slack@bradford.ac.uk Phone (01274) 732078 Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 31st July 1999 WUCC 99 Tune up tournament (2 days) @ Trent Park, London [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Colin Wagstaff Comment By Invitation Only Email Colin.Wagstaff@EULERGroup.com Phone 0181 360 8816 (home) 0171 860 2630 (work) Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 9th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be eight pitches in 99! (Max 32 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 09:05:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03804 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:04:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03793 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:04:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17582 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:04:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10tRj2-00099L-0K; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:04:12 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:54:19 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF44E0@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Ben Ravilious'" , BRITDISC Cc: "'guy bowles'" Subject: RE: BBC Knowledge channel - response? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:54:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am looking for lively characters who really have a passion for the sport. I believe a certain Dale Winton, aka, Guy Bowles may be exactly the kind of person they are looking for. Bowles, are you there? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ravilious [SMTP:bravil@webleicester.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 8:14 PM To: BRITDISC Subject: BBC Knowledge channel - response? Has anbody responded to this? Would be a dead easy bit of publicity for us. Do it or we send Colin!!! ;-) Ben -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Altman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 04 June 1999 14:05 Subject: Ultimate Frisbee >Don't know if anyone else recieved this query as well, but >I Thought I would pass it on to Britdisc since I think it >would be better for British Ultimate if one of the >enthusiastic and passionate people they interviewed had >more of an English accent! > >Aaron > >--- Begin Forwarded Message --- >Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:02:17 +0100 >From: Helga Berry >Subject: Ultimate Frisbee >Sender: Helga Berry >To: "'a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk'" > >Reply-To: Helga Berry >Message-ID: > > > >I am working on a series of short films for BBC Knowledge channel covering a >range of people and their life experiences or passions and am interested in >finding people who would be able to talk on film for 60 seconds about their >interest in frisbee and what they get out of the sport. > >Would you be able to supply me with a list of members of you federation in >order for me to target some potential interviewees, I am looking for lively >characters who really have a passion for the sport. > >Many thanks, > >Helga Berry >Director >New Media Unit >BBC Birmingham >x 28568 > >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > >======================================================================= > > Aaron Altman >Cranfield University Alien Nation Ultimate > ________ >E-mail: a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk \____|________\ >Phone: 011 44 1234 798 000 EXT 8862 / () D ) >WWW URL: www.cranfield.ac.uk/~a.altman/aaron.htm /_ \ > ________/_ | > "Work like a dog, ~-_-~..~- (__________)> ) | > Play like a dog" \_________/ > >"Highly Competitive play is encouraged, but never at the expense of the > bond of mutual respect between players, adherence to the agreed > upon rules of the game, or the basic joy of play" > > --------> Rules to live by! >======================================================================== > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 09:14:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05539 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:14:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05533 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:14:13 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:15:54 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Ultimate Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben asked: >Has anbody responded to this? Would be a dead easy bit of publicity for us. I replied to Helga Berry and received the following prompt response. I have passed this on to the 'BUF Publicity Machine' (in the shape of Jon Hope). Cheers, Sam. Helga Berry wrote: >Many thanks for your reply Sam, I'm really interested in covering Ultimate >but what does Disc Golf and Overall consist of ? > >As for interviewees, I'm looking for someone who can convey their interest >and talk about how they got into the sport (this is the learning experience >part of the film). Also, to answer questions such as: is it easy to do ? How >do I meet other players ? etc. and finally to demo a basic technique. The >films are very short - out of the interview I will edit a 60 second (main >version) and a 30 second version (which will be the 'tip' aspect of the >film). > > I didn't mention that alongside these films on screen will be associated >addresses and websites for the viewers to find out more info about the sport >/ societies etc. > >We're trying to cover a diverse a range of interest as possible and you >sport sounds absolutely ideal for one of our 'Junctions'. > >Looking forward to speaking to your suggested volunteers. > >Many thanks, > >Helga Berry >Director >New Media Unit >BBC Birmingham >x 28568 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 09:48:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11210 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:47:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11205 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:47:50 +0100 (BST) From: Mullinger_Stuart/ec@na1.stratus.com Received: from mailhub.stratus.com (mailhub.stratus.com [134.111.1.14]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12865 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:47:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from na1.stratus.com (na1.stratus.com [134.111.200.94]) by mailhub.stratus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02568; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 04:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by na1.stratus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27727; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 04:47:39 -0400 (EDT) X-OpenMail-Hops: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:42:35 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Tour III Report MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk CC: scotdisc@egroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Tour" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tour" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Many thanks to 'Kiwi' David Coleman for the following report. Stuart. Tournament Report: Edinburgh 1999 Welcome to Scotland. The expected welcome was made to all the teams that made the journey north. Yeah, it was raining. A freak occurrence I swear. When the sun rolled up on Saturday morning, it didn't hold the promise of a cracker of a day. I woke up bleary eyed to find my room was subjected to a Red attack. Red everywhere, but they did offer me a lift. The venue for the Edinburgh tourney was the Jack Kane Centre, which is located in an interesting part of town. The suprise of this tournament was that the new drop pull rule wasn't in use, except by agreement of the captains. Sneeeky's wasn't due to start until 10:30 so I managed to go around and glimpse some of the teams involved. Strange to Edinburgh, the rain came down in time to check out the first game. The first game I caught was First Touch Vs Catch-22. Midway through Catch was slightly more organised and went on to win it 17-4. Scary was the fact that one of FT was playing with a broken collarbone. Now that's dedication. In the local derby between Soup and Smudge, Soup went out winners comfortably in the end. On local derbys, a feature of this tournament was the number of Scottish teams involved. In the end there was 6 teams from Alba, many of them with players who had never been involved in a tour event. Overall it was quite a learning experience for some, whilst for others enough of a taste to want more. In the big matches, the morning suprise was the tight game between Chevron AF and Dough Boy, two of the teams that are causing problems for UTI and Co. My loyalties tend towards Dough Boys as I'm another Kiwi, so I was glad to see that Dough Boys went on to win. Another crunch game was Red Vs Druids. When I caught the game Red was playing well at midway and went on to win. Another game I quite enjoyed watching was Bliss Vs Nightfever. Nightfever made the initial running, but Bliss started to get over the first game blues, and were starting to pull it back. Perhaps a little too late as Nightfever won 15-8. Another of the top 8 games was Red Vs Chevron. From the looks of the game, Red appeared to be on something of a backlash from Chevron AF, with a stronger performance by Chevy. The afternoon brought with it the promise of sun, and it delivered. Yay, heat. A hot game running at that time was Phat 'eds Vs Bliss, with some good close quarter stuff with the occasional flash of pace, 8-7 at half time. In the second half Phat 'eds came out just that little bit stronger , and won 15-12. Druids Vs Dough Boy had the boys continuing to show their good form, and they went out winners 17-10. This was the form that was eventually to take Dough Boy to the final. As far as pool play went Twin Peaks had to be the unluckiest team. The E pool was a very tight pool, with two Scottish teams and two from south of the border. The first saw Sneeeky's go down 9-15 to Skunks, whilst Gael Force won 15-13 over Twin Peaks. Second round and Skunks won 15-13 over Twin Peaks, with Gael Force winning the local derby 15-13 over Sneeeky's. The final round saw Sneeeky's win 15-13 over Twin Peaks, whilst Skunks won one of the tightest games I've seen, coming from behind to win 15-14 against Gael Force. In other games Smudge were having a hard time of it, but when I caught part of their game, they scored a good upwind point into the strong breeze Vs Janitors. Magic. The game between UTI and Catch was another in the great rivalry between the two teams. Great Ultimate, big D, and passion ran throughout the game. But UTI seems to be on something of a high at the moment, and in this game they just seemed to have the edge. And so the result bore this out, 16-11. Another important game was Strange Blue Vs Soup. When I was watching, Soup seemed to be in control, and getting stronger. Then Strange Blue started its momentum and won the game 13-12. End of day one, except it wasn't. Party de Blind Poet was next on the cards. Good venue, although it was a bit of a maze to find the bar. Most teams were out in force and boogieing away. Special mention must be made of the Wyld Stallyns. My lasting image of the night was the Stallyns boogieing down, and looking like tomorrow was gonna be a hard hard day. All in all it was a great night. Memo: Dancing makes day two difficult. Day Two Play off morning: Sunday is always guaranteed to create a few suprises, due to hangovers and the dissappeared. Tour 3 was no exception, with teams turning up very late, or just in time to miss their game. The morning was bright and the heavy rain during the night created good layout conditions. Soup (we're thick, we're creamy) Vs BAF was the first game affected by the Sunday morning, BAF were late fielding seven players and Soup counted the points. Soup went on to take the 6th spot, with a higher score even if the penalty points were ignored. Another crossover was Wyld Stallyns Vs Gael Force with the Stallyns playing semi Iron Man. Hangovers aside, Stallyns took the game reasonably comfortably. Comment of the morning was from an observer of the Phat 'eds Vs Druids game, "close game, bit slow". The semi-finals were big games with Dough Boy up against Catch and UTI Vs Chevron AF. Both were reasonably tight games, but Dough Boy prevailed in the morning encounter, as did UTI. By this stage the afternoon was turning to the worst, and yours truly was involved in a mammoth encounter with Fingers 6, a game which swung all over the place. At capping Sneeeky's was up at 12-11, but in the events that followed, Fingers 6 managed to survive a massive attack and won the game 14-13. By this stage the weather had improved; not. It started bucketing down, which impacted on all games from the big final down to the playoffs for 23rd and 24th. Only really gutsy spectators defied the weather to watch the big games. Most others were hiding in the Cafe. In the final Dough Boy took on UTI. Dough Boy started out with guns blazing , stretching UTI to the limit, and went ahead. Midway through the boys were leading 13-10. But then UTI started to pick up the tempo, perhaps in concert with the storm. Storm was the word here, as UTI really turned it on in the rain and eventually won 21-14. One of the Dough Boys was heard to say, and I quote "Dough never rises in the cold". The Chevron AF Vs Catch-22 was a closer affair, as both teams alternately performed brilliantly and then struggled in the wet. However, due to the gluelike handling, Chevron won the 3rd/4th playoff. Overall the tournament was a lotta fun, although the weather sometimes played its role. Thanks to Stuart and Co who put in the hard yards to ensure its success. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 10:04:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14418 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:03:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14412 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:03:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14072 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:03:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-010.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.10]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA28409 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:59:57 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004201beb645$09c5a8e0$0aa492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: BBC Knowledge channel - response? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:05:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Guy & Sammy - cool! Any women interested? -----Original Message----- From: Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] To: 'Ben Ravilious' ; BRITDISC Cc: 'guy bowles' Date: 14 June 1999 09:04 Subject: RE: BBC Knowledge channel - response? > I am looking for lively characters who really have a passion for the >sport. > >I believe a certain Dale Winton, aka, Guy Bowles may be exactly the kind of >person they are looking for. > >Bowles, are you there? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Ravilious [SMTP:bravil@webleicester.co.uk] > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 8:14 PM > To: BRITDISC > Subject: BBC Knowledge channel - response? > > Has anbody responded to this? Would be a dead easy bit of publicity >for us. > > Do it or we send Colin!!! ;-) > > Ben > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Altman > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Date: 04 June 1999 14:05 > Subject: Ultimate Frisbee > > > >Don't know if anyone else recieved this query as well, but > >I Thought I would pass it on to Britdisc since I think it > >would be better for British Ultimate if one of the > >enthusiastic and passionate people they interviewed had > >more of an English accent! > > > >Aaron > > > >--- Begin Forwarded Message --- > >Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:02:17 +0100 > >From: Helga Berry > >Subject: Ultimate Frisbee > >Sender: Helga Berry > >To: "'a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk'" > > > >Reply-To: Helga Berry > >Message-ID: > > > > > > > >I am working on a series of short films for BBC Knowledge channel > covering a > >range of people and their life experiences or passions and am >interested in > >finding people who would be able to talk on film for 60 seconds >about their > >interest in frisbee and what they get out of the sport. > > > >Would you be able to supply me with a list of members of you >federation in > >order for me to target some potential interviewees, I am looking >for lively > >characters who really have a passion for the sport. > > > >Many thanks, > > > >Helga Berry > >Director > >New Media Unit > >BBC Birmingham > >x 28568 > > > >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > > > > >>======================================================================= > > > > Aaron Altman > >Cranfield University Alien Nation Ultimate > > ________ > >E-mail: a.altman@cranfield.ac.uk >\____|________\ > >Phone: 011 44 1234 798 000 EXT 8862 / () >D ) > >WWW URL: www.cranfield.ac.uk/~a.altman/aaron.htm /_ >\ > > ________/_ >| > > "Work like a dog, ~-_-~..~- (__________)> ) >| > > Play like a dog" \_________/ > > > >"Highly Competitive play is encouraged, but never at the expense of >the > > bond of mutual respect between players, adherence to the >agreed > > upon rules of the game, or the basic joy of play" > > > > --------> Rules to >live by! > >>======================================================================== > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 11:37:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05594 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:35:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05585 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:35:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07919 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:35:32 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:15:28 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B3ECF5E@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: BBC Knowledge channel - response? Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:15:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Guy & Sammy - cool! > > Any women interested? In Guy or Sammy? Surely not. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 12:11:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13955 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13943 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:25 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21786 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:29 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:12 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF9A@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: In urgent need of Balti Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:10:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Sorry to the rest of the world, but can you get in touch please James? Cheers Mark From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 12:54:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24155 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:53:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24145 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:53:50 +0100 (BST) From: ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA18345 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:53:49 +0100 (BST) Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id MAA20235; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:48:30 +0100 Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmae23022; Mon, 14 Jun 99 06:54:24 -0400 Received: from intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDB003G0D3IBI@olive.uk.pw.com> for Britdisc@Csv.Warwick.Ac.Uk; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 80256790.003C3A20 ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:57:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:57:02 +0100 Subject: Re: Association Budget To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <80256790.003C2BE3.00@intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=pFasXFUJgdt50jRSxPoNpdgZsAtZf69nFEOHU34C72JcumnLWf5TVCLc" Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L GB@C&L INT@INTL Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --0__=pFasXFUJgdt50jRSxPoNpdgZsAtZf69nFEOHU34C72JcumnLWf5TVCLc Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Wayne and others The BUF records are not currently with the BUF Treasurer (me) so unfortunately I cannot comment further on the historic costs of doing this work. In terms of going forward the main cost would be wages to the administrator, and the role has yet to be completely defined so we can only make assumptions on the cost. (Ben, I'm sure the Inland Revenue will be interested in taking its pound of flesh and we need to ensure we comply.) It is true that we used to have an administrator and the arrangement worked because the majority of the BUF committee lived reasonably close together, I believe with the administrator being married to the previous Treasurer. One of the main thrusts of reorganising the BUF is to make it a more professionally run organisation and to do that we need to get the structure, responsibilities, people and internal communications right. Ian Stebbing BUF Treasurer (Embedded image moved Wayne Retter to file: 13/06/99 16:50 pic15456.pcx) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: Subject: Re: Association Budget --0__=pFasXFUJgdt50jRSxPoNpdgZsAtZf69nFEOHU34C72JcumnLWf5TVCLc Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ben Ravilious writes >We have to add the costs of a part-time admin plus other admin costs >(=A37000?). I am praying that the taxman isn't going to demand a cut o= f the >salary. Don't the BUF treasury records hold more accurate details of the admin costs? Reimbursements for phone calls, photocopying, postage, etc, cos= t of development programs, etc... Are you're "back of a fag packet" figures based on these, suitably projected/adjusted/rounded? Very vague memories, but - didn't the BUF have a part-time/volunteer administrator for a time? What's the story here? Since the post doesn't _seem_ to exist any more,= I assume that there were reasons for the trial to terminate... what wer= e those reasons, and what were the lessons learned? Will a _part-time_ administrator cover the job sufficiently? This will obviously depend upon the responsibilities of the post - are there yet any propositions as to what they would be (or, for that matter, currently ARE) I'm assuming that the association would be really looking for someone who will spend X regular planned hours per week administering the BUA (is/was this the proposed name? I'm assuming that this is still open to= negotiation too, though someone got to BUPA before us...) rather than trying to squeeze them in around their other job(s)? Or not? dependent= upon responsibilities, the time demand could fluctuate. >From the current setup, there just aren't enough hours in the day for our volunteer committees to do a normal days work, AND do their BUF stuff. Obviously this is a scenario to be fixed/avoided. If there aren'= t more volunteers, the obvious option is a salaried administrator. Anyone got any input on the way other countries do things? Various Swedish CLUBS have employed administrators, the UPA has salaried staff.= I'm not suggesting that these organisations should be idols, but aspect= s should be used for role modelling. >For more accurate numbers I think we should look at Tour/Indoor Nation= als >attendance, thus:- > >40 Tour teams x 11 players (average) =3D 440 players Can we not be more accurate in our estimations? Most Tour teams are ROSTERED, and have handed in their rosters. The unrostered teams could= be persuaded to jot down some kind of team list (so far, the core of such teams hasn't changed dramatically, has it?) There's nearly a census here... (How do we guarantee that a proper census gets to everybody? I guess that all those that care and can be bothered will find out, but...) OK, some clubs have rostered their 'infrequent appearances' as well as their 'core players', but one could assume (damn, the inaccuracy strike= s back!) that these 'infrequents' would subscribe to the association in order to be kept up to date - e.g. I don't remember seeing many Lurkers= at Tour Events this year, yet, but they're planning to host their own tournament... Wayne Retter PS: In June 1993 Sean Young conducted a survey at the Samurai (now Headrush) Fiesta, and produced some demographic figures about UK Ultimate, based upon the results. His data sample wasn't huge (just the players, of the 16 teams at the event, that could be bothered to complete and return the survey.) and therefore those figures may be _slightly_ biased, for various reasons, but they're interesting enough to make it worthwhile re-running the survey. Anyone have any good ideas on: a) how to get the survey to everyone (if we could do this, we could conduct a census!); b) provide the incentives for: (i) people to complete the survey; (ii) the answers to be serious; (iii) the answers to be returned! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity t= o which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, o= r taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:58:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25636 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:58:22 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19127 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:58:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:56:00 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:55:43 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED270329FF9E@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Statement on behalf of Whiplash Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:55:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Whiplash would like to make the following statement: There is no evidence to support Shite Breather's outrageous claim that they negotiated a take-over of Whiplash on Friday 4th June, or at any other point before or after the birth of Christ. They are without a weedy, pox-ridden leg to stand on. We laugh in the face of Fright Diva and challenge them to a game of Twister, Ker Plunk or any other blood sport they care to name. This treacherous plot to destroy Whiplash - like the underhand, skulking attempt to steal our players which preceded it - will fail! That Nick and Lemmy are like the Dick and Mutley of Ultimate and will never win! Whiplash will continue to operate as a fully autonomous body, and will fight whatever devious, fiendish schemes come our way with full dignity, and in the true spirit of our founding fathers. Thankyou. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 15:27:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00516 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:25:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00509 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:25:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.129.138]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03947 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:25:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.92]) by beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25779 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:25:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from B12A-49.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b12a-49.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.53]) by cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id PAA09591 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:18:03 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Pennington Reply-To: nap197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Trophy Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:18:02 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Who has the Southampton Outdoor Winners Trophy from last years Tour IV? A UTI member perhaps? Can you let me know if you have it and bring it along to Tour IV to be re-engraved. Cheers marv (Skunks) ---------------------- nap197@soton.ac.uk --- End Forwarded Message --- ---------------------- Neil Pennington nap197@soton.ac.uk --- End Forwarded Message --- ---------------------- Neil Pennington nap197@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 15:40:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04014 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:38:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04006 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:38:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail10.svr.pol.co.uk (mail10.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.214]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10213 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:38:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-171.name43.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.181.171] helo=roger) by mail10.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10tXsy-0000j1-00; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:38:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000701beb673$76cd4190$02010180@roger.kbw.co.uk> Reply-To: "Pete Harvey" From: "Pete Harvey" To: , Subject: Re: Southampton Trophy Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:37:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk tell the engraver that DoughBoy is all one word, and spelt with a 'U'. cheers Harv -----Original Message----- From: Neil Pennington To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 14 June 1999 15:28 Subject: Southampton Trophy > >Who has the Southampton Outdoor Winners Trophy from last >years Tour IV? > >A UTI member perhaps? Can you let me know if you have it >and bring it along to Tour IV to be re-engraved. > >Cheers >marv (Skunks) > >---------------------- >nap197@soton.ac.uk > >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > >---------------------- >Neil Pennington >nap197@soton.ac.uk > >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > >---------------------- >Neil Pennington >nap197@soton.ac.uk > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 16:14:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11915 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:13:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11891 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:13:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07153 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:13:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 10tYQ9-0003Ai-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:13:09 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10tYQ9-0000O4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:13:09 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Subject: cam99 - pickup players wanted Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:13:09 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK, here is the deal: an intense, fun tournament, on luscious smooth grass. 19-20 June, Trinity New Field, Grantchester Road, Cambridge. Would you like to come and play in a pickup team? If so, just email me. If you email me before Thursday this week, your registration will be free. If you prefer to turn up on the day, your registration fee will be 2 pounds for the weekend, which includes unlimited tea, coffee, biscuits. And an apple. And an orange. And a banana. I'm sorry this invitation comes so late; I hope some of you will be able to respond. First touch? B.A.F.? Angels? Albatross? Shotgun, your chance to come back and win a tournament? All welcome, first come, first served. yours David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 14 20:43:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29423 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:42:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29418 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:42:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA03774 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:42:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 16179 invoked from network); 14 Jun 1999 19:42:08 -0000 Received: from userbg22.uk.uudial.com (HELO dial.pipex.com) (62.188.142.142) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 19:42:08 -0000 Message-ID: <37655AE9.36EE4B9F@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:41:29 +0100 From: Richard Robert Hims X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BRITDISC Subject: Tour IV [travelling from London] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just posting to ask if there is anyone driving down from North of London area either early Saturday morning or late Friday evening who would like to reduce their petrol money a little by taking along an extra passenger. Would appreciate any offers of a lift. -- Rich, Janitors richard.hims@dial.pipex.com vik.hims@cwcom.net vik-rich@iname.com rich-vik@iname.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 15 09:35:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14777 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14749 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28478 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 by brookes.ac.uk (8.8.7/) id JAA11750; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:58 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199906150834.JAA11750@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Bliss Party (Forward) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Subject: Party - Support Frisbee! > >Fair maidens and good men, > >As all of you now know, I dedicate a ridiculous amount of time to a sport that no one has ever heard of and that is struggling to get publicity and funding - that is, of course, Ultimate Frisbee. My team, Bliss, is going to Club Worlds in St Andrews Scotland in August this year and in return for some publicity about the sport, the British Ultimate Federation (BUF) have agreed to raise as much money as we can (with some ambitious targets) for the Big Issue Foundation, Scotland. >In order to raise the money Bliss has decided on several options, some = >of which include raising money for our kit which is bloody expensive and which we are required to don for the cameras and the masses that will be >watching... All this to say that you are cordially invited to a Bliss party >in order to raise money for both of these noble causes. We have rented = >out half of a pub and will be entertaining you with our mere presence for 6= hours. If you are anywhere near the neighborhood please do stop by. There will be lots of fit women running around if that's of any temptation and beer as usual if you couldn't care less. We are charging 5 pounds at the door but if you are really skinned any contributions will be welcome. I am not sure of the exact splits but I think roughly half of the money raised will go to the Big Issue and half will go to our sponsorship pool. Drink profits go straight to the pub.... > >PARTY >Sat June 19th >Pitcher & Piano >Pollen Street- Nr Hanover Square >1 min walk from Oxford Circus Tube >=A35 at door >5-11pm > >Hope to see some of your faces there! Even for just a quick stop over. >Absentee sponsorship contributions welcome. >This is also your chance to find out more about Ultimate and pick up games in London- you know you want to!! >Cheers, >Gen > >= > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 15 14:52:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21432 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:50:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21418 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:50:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe12.hotmail.com [207.82.253.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29661 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:50:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 69671 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 1999 13:50:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990615135012.69670.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.122.243 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:50:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.122.243] From: Jester Bit To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Can I have a ride, please? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:50:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To Sarfhampton from Landan on Friday night returning Sunday night? Please, please, please. Car comedy guaranteed! ;•) Cheers Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 15 18:38:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10650 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:22:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10644 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:22:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27979 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:22:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10twvD-000384-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:22:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:27:08 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: BBC Knowledge channel - response? References: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF44E0@LONSEX02> In-Reply-To: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF44E0@LONSEX02> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] writes >I believe a certain Dale Winton, aka, Guy Bowles may be exactly the kind of >person they are looking for. Dale Winton in front of a live audience, maybe, but on the telly, I'm afraid he'd be more Roger Mellie... W ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 15 19:05:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13147 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:04:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13133 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19832; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:04:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 15 Jun 99 19:01:57 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 15 Jun 99 18:33:48 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, bdga@egroups.com, gds@orbitwebs.com Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:33:45 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 5th Quarry Park Open Disc Golf - results X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <16369BBC493D@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Quarry Park Report A record number of competitors took part in the 5th Quarry Park Open - 46 in all. Lack of wind and some excellent golf resulted in better scores than ever before despite the ever growing trees presenting an increasing obstacle on many holes. Jim Edwards produced some excellent golf to take second spot ahead of Sam Neilson, Simon Luard and Liam Young. Rich Sampson (8th) consolidated his position as a top ten contender and Neal Pickett proved that his excellent performance at Hayling Island was not a fluke by taking 10th place. Sue Underwood was the top woman and placed 21st overall. Patrick Villiers -Stuart was the top junior, edging out Kieran McSherry - both came all the way from Northumberland to compete! I lead from start to finish but a lacklustre 3rd round left me with a diminished lead and I had to go up a gear in the 4th round to give myself a comfortable lead going into the 6 hole final. The first ever tournament ace was claimed by Si Luard on the difficult 15th hole (Blackdown The Hill) and he won a 25 pound credit at Del's Discs. There were many discs given away as prizes for good play and novelty awards too. Thanks go to Gateway Disc Sports for providing the plastic in form of the new Apache and Sabre discs. Despite some rain on Saturday night the barbecue and camp fire went well and a good time was had by all. 1.Derek Robins 2. Jim Edwards 3= Sam Neilson 3= Simon Luard 5 Liam Young 6 Sean Young 7 Oz Freire 8 Rich Sampson 9 Andy Lucey 10 Neal Pickett I have a web page with the results, which I will post to the bdga@egroups list. If anyone on britdisc wants it please mail me. Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 15 23:47:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA21234 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:46:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21227 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:46:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk ([194.247.225.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09035 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:46:12 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id XAA08195; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:45:44 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.249.143) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma008169; Tue, 15 Jun 99 23:45:04 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BEB789.0E62A160@KEVIN>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:44:49 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEB789.0E62A160@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'youth.ultimate@listbot.com'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" , "'wilric@hotmail.com'" Subject: Junior Outdoors Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:41:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id XAA21229 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, OK, details are arranged. The 1999 Junior outdoors is to be held on July 10/11 at Millfield Prep School in Glastonbury. Captains meeting will be at 10:30 on the Saturday. Camping is available free of charge on the Saturday night. Luxury accommodation (in the boarding school) is available for a fee (probably around 11 pound a head). Entry fee will probably be 40 pounds a team (BUF tax does not apply to junior teams). All meals are available, and well worth considering. This is where they (the school) want to make their money, so please think about supporting them so they think about hosting it again. Meal costs are normally in the region of 3 pounds for breakfast, 4 for lunch and 5 for dinner. The food is normally excellent. There will be invites in the post, but feel free to contact Vaughan directly now. His contact details are... Vaughan Williams Chestnut House, Martins Lane, Glastonbury. BA6 8LL. (H) 01458-832245 (M) 07808 175301 (E) chestnut@millfieldprep.somerset.sch.uk His son's email is probably more reliable, so you could try Richard on wilric@hotmail.com The rules for eligibility have been changed to fall in line with the WFDF rules. This means that if you are entitled to play for GB Juniors, you can play in the Junior tournaments. The rules state that you must be under 19 as of the 1st of January in the year of the tournament. Basically, you can play so long as you don't turn 20 this year. You don't need to still be at school. If you cannot get a full team out, you need to make arrangements with the Tournament Organiser (Vaughan) and the Junior Coordinator (me). We don't want to see juniors not playing, but we can't allow a 'super team' to form. Any questions, please feel free to ask. Kevin. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 11:17:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07897 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:15:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07875 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:15:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd93.hotmail.com [207.82.252.157]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA07503 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:15:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 40326 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jun 1999 10:15:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990616101503.40325.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.121.103.5 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:15:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.121.103.5] From: Chris Adams To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Wanting to play at Southampton Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:15:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, I am keen to play in the tournament at Southampton, but do not have a team to play for. Does anyone need or know of anyone who may need an extra player? Cheers, Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 12:12:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19955 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:11:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19948 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:11:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14459 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:11:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 10742 invoked from network); 16 Jun 1999 11:11:53 -0000 Received: from userm385.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.78.181) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 11:11:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000001beb77c$c0bd1f00$b54e95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Strange Blue Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:00:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEB77A.8C932820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEB77A.8C932820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone on E-mail from Strange Blue please get in touch with me. cheers, Matt Lowe Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEB77A.8C932820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEB77A.8C932820-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 12:33:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25113 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:32:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25095 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:32:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03161 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:32:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13549; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:32:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from lr6.pub.brad.ac.uk (rslack@richC8lr6.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.155]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA27370; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:32:54 +0100 (BST) From: richard slack Reply-To: R.Slack@Bradford.ac.uk To: 58989439@mmu.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, chw101@york.ac.uk, Darth@maul99.freeserve.co.uk, fran@sunshine88.freeserve.co.uk, ged.gray@zen.co.uk, u01ngp@abdn.ac.uk, ultimate@lancaster.ac.uk Subject: Leeds all-dayer Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:32:53 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA25100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone not stupid enough to get up for a 5 am start are welcome to join us in Hyde Park (just past the Leeds Met) this Saturday (19th). - Apparantly mild mannered Arun is cooking breakfast for all those turning up on time! - It's £20 per team/ £3 per pick-up and is for Marie Curie. There'll be a standard tourney in the morning and then a hat competition until 9 pm. Then onto the Firkin. If you're bringing a full team please be there by 9 am. Rich. ---------------------- rslack@bradford.ac.uk (01274)732078. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 14:53:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24490 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:52:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24475 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:52:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from curlew.cs.man.ac.uk (curlew.cs.man.ac.uk [130.88.13.7]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02510 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:52:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by curlew.cs.man.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 10uG6m-000L7H-00; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:52:05 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA929541123; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:52:06 GMT Message-Id: <9906169295.AA929541123@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:51:15 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: , <58989439@mmu.ac.uk>, , , , , , , Subject: RE: Leeds all-dayer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >If you're bringing a full team please be there by 9 am. Hear this; Chevron will be there at 5am. If you fancy your chances: step to us. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 17:41:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01605 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:40:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01596 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:40:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21075 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:40:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailer.york.ac.uk (mailer.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.96]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA22969; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:40:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:40:20 +0100 (BST) From: Walker the Small To: Rob Mitchell cc: R.Slack@Bradford.ac.uk, 58989439@mmu.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Darth@maul99.freeserve.co.uk, fran@sunshine88.freeserve.co.uk, ged.gray@zen.co.uk, u01ngp@abdn.ac.uk, ultimate@lancaster.ac.uk Subject: RE: Leeds all-dayer In-Reply-To: <9906169295.AA929541123@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. -Rabbit <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Rob Mitchell wrote: > > >If you're bringing a full team please be there by 9 am. > > Hear this; Chevron will be there at 5am. If you fancy your chances: step to us. > > Well, I doubt we fancy our chances but we'll take you on anyway, being further north than you and therefore supposedly harder!!! :) Yorkies From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 18:11:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07369 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:10:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07364 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:10:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.71.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22443 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:10:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (stork [152.78.71.1]) by rook.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18849; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:10:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from tarrant.ecs.soton.ac.uk (IDENT:wp296@tarrant [152.78.71.20]) by stork.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA09456; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:10:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:10:02 +0100 (GMT) From: Will Parker Reply-To: Will Parker To: britdisc cc: cbadams5@hotmail.com Subject: Soton pick ups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It looks like Skunks 2 will have a few spaces for pick ups. I'm not sure exactly how many yet, but I'll keep you posted Will Skunks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 16 21:37:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06616 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:36:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06605 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:36:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [194.126.80.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08136 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:36:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from p02s02a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.130.3] helo=cow) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10uIvK-0004b8-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:52:27 +0100 Message-ID: <00f701beb818$7752e600$038293c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Tour IV latest Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:49:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEB820.A40667A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEB820.A40667A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi BD, latest from Southampton is that the tourney is filling up fast. = Confirmed are: Strange Blue Bliss Twin Peaks Skunks Chevron Druids Nightfever Albatross BAF 1 BAF 2 First Touch UTI Phat'Eds Slipdisc MMJ Mohawk Mwnci Magic Catch 22 Wyld Stallions 4 Non Blondes Overflow Sharks Pookas =20 Hurricane Fingers 6 (these three require confirmation on BUF taxes from Dora Kemp) Headrush, Doughboy, SMUDGE (BUF tax??) have cheques in the post Uriel are interested and I've heard nothing from Red, Gael Force, SOUP = or Kniggets even though they have paid their BUF taxes. Any teams above that are still interested the closing date for entries = is this Friday, however if you mail me and tell me the cheque is on it's = way then I'll count you in. Cheers Iain ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEB820.A40667A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi BD,
    latest from = Southampton is=20 that the tourney is filling up fast.  Confirmed are:
 
Strange Blue
Bliss
Twin Peaks
Skunks
Chevron
Druids
Nightfever
Albatross
BAF 1
BAF 2
First Touch
UTI
Phat'Eds
Slipdisc
MMJ
Mohawk Mwnci Magic
Catch 22
Wyld Stallions
4 Non Blondes
Overflow
Sharks
 
Pookas   
Hurricane
Fingers 6 (these three require confirmation on BUF = taxes from=20 Dora Kemp)
 
Headrush, Doughboy, SMUDGE (BUF tax??) have cheques = in the=20 post
 
Uriel are interested and I've heard nothing from = Red, Gael=20 Force, SOUP or Kniggets even though they have paid their BUF = taxes.
 
Any teams above that are still interested the = closing date for=20 entries is this Friday, however if you mail me and tell me the cheque is = on it's=20 way then I'll count you in.
 
Cheers
 
Iain
------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01BEB820.A40667A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 17 13:58:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09498 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:56:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09471 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:56:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25140 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:15:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow (pow.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.132]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA16845 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:13:13 GMT Message-Id: <199906171213.MAA16845@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:18:12 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Beta testers wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, If any of you have a moment (and web access) to spare could you take a look at www.endzone.co.uk and let me know your thoughts (yes it is Ultimate related). I won't try and explain what it is here - as the site should explain itself. If you don't have time or web access you can find out more by sending a blank message to: info@endzone.co.uk I would like to get thoughts on the whole idea and on any problems and/or suggestions for the actual pages. I would appreciate it if someone could go though the entire site and let me know if they get any errors or anything. Thanks for your help, BARRY From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 17 20:30:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01125 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:29:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01117 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:29:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [194.126.80.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24875 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:29:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from p7cs01a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.161.125] helo=cow) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10uhqN-0001An-00; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <008201beb8f7$7d8120c0$7da193c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Cc: Subject: Southampton is now full Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:27:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEB8FF.C3944D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEB8FF.C3944D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi BD, as the subject says Southampton Outdoors tour event is now full. = However too many teams have sent or requested entry, there are 33 teams = on my list and only 32 spaces. Three of the teams haven't paid their = BUF taxes for this event. These are Pookas, Hurricane and Fingers 6. = Pookas have to pay to get their place (mainly due to their travel = arrangements that are non-refundable) and whichever out of Fingers 6 and = Hurricane pay Dora gets the final slot to take the total number up to 32 = teams. This is unfortunately the way it has ended up. =20 If anyone wants to contact me urgently about their teams entry then = phone me on 0403 649558. =20 Cheers =20 Iain ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEB8FF.C3944D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi BD,
    as the subject says Southampton = Outdoors=20 tour event is now full.  However too many teams have sent or = requested=20 entry, there are 33 teams on my list and only 32 spaces.  Three of = the=20 teams haven't paid their BUF taxes for this event.  These are = Pookas,=20 Hurricane and Fingers 6.  Pookas have to pay to get their place = (mainly due=20 to their travel arrangements that are non-refundable) and whichever out = of=20 Fingers 6 and Hurricane pay Dora gets the final slot to take the total = number up=20 to 32 teams.  This is unfortunately the way it has ended = up.
 
If anyone wants to contact me urgently about their = teams entry=20 then phone me on 0403 649558.
 
Cheers
 
Iain
------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BEB8FF.C3944D00-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 18 10:53:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11447 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:51:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11439 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:51:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24668 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:51:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from p23s07a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.135.36] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10uvJG-00019P-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:51:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003b01beb970$02542fe0$dda493c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Southampton Outdoors Final Entry Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:38:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEB976.B49389C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEB976.B49389C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI BD, Tour IV is now full as my previous message said, I didn't post the = final list because of the mix up with a couple of teams about their BUF = taxes. Here is the final entry into the event. Strange Blue Bliss Twin Peaks Skunks Skunks 2 Chevron AF Druids Gael Force Nightfever Albatross BAF 1 BAF 2 First Touch UTI Phat'eds Red 1 Red 2 Headrush Slipdisc MMJ Mohawk MM Catch 22 SOUP Wyld Stallions 4 Non Blondes Overflow Sharks Dough Boy SMUDGE Pookas Hurricane Fingers 6 Could someone from Fingers 6 please contact me ASAP. Apologies to any teams that wanted to play and didn't get in. There = will however be a pick-up team based primarily on Skunks that don't get = into the first team. If anyone wants to pick up for the tourney then = send me an e-mail and I'll put your name down. See you all next weekend, if any teams want directions etc then mail me = directly with a postal address and I'll send out paper packs to you. = Camping is available from Friday evening for all those teams with a fair = distance to cover. Cheers Iain ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEB976.B49389C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI BD,
    Tour IV is now = full as my=20 previous message said, I didn't post the final list because of the mix = up with a=20 couple of teams about their BUF taxes.  Here is the final entry = into the=20 event.
 
Strange Blue
Bliss
Twin Peaks
Skunks
Skunks 2
Chevron AF
Druids
Gael Force
Nightfever
Albatross
BAF 1
BAF 2
First Touch
UTI
Phat'eds
Red 1
Red 2
Headrush
Slipdisc
MMJ
Mohawk MM
Catch 22
SOUP
Wyld Stallions
4 Non Blondes
Overflow
Sharks
Dough Boy
SMUDGE
Pookas
Hurricane
Fingers = 6
 
Could someone from Fingers 6 please contact me=20 ASAP.
 
Apologies to any teams that wanted = to play and=20 didn't get in.  There will however be a pick-up team based = primarily on=20 Skunks that don't get into the first team.  If anyone wants to pick = up for=20 the tourney then send me an e-mail and I'll put your name = down.
 
See you all next weekend, if any teams want = directions etc=20 then mail me directly with a postal address and I'll send out paper = packs to=20 you.  Camping is available from Friday evening for all those teams = with a=20 fair distance to cover.
 
Cheers
 
Iain
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BEB976.B49389C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 18 11:18:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16630 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:16:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16624 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:16:45 +0100 (BST) From: RGarton@LoweHoward-Spink.co.uk Received: from ns3.business.net.uk (ns3.business.net.uk [195.50.64.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26513 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:16:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.50.100.74] (helo=smtpgw1.lowehoward-spink.co.uk) by ns3.business.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10uvXP-0004wt-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:06:19 +0000 Received: by smtpgw1.lowehoward-spink.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 80256794.0038BD52 ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:19:44 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: LOWE HOWARD-SPINK To: "BRITDISC" Message-ID: <80256794.0035E888.00@smtpgw1.lowehoward-spink.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:12:47 +0100 Subject: Ultimate popularity Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I need to get some figures on the growth/popularity of Ultimate in the UK. If anyone knows any, can you let me know. Specifically, I'm after: The total number of players The total number of players, 5, 10, 15 years ago - any amount that anyone has info for. The number of student players The number of student players 5, 10 etc... The number of women players The number of women players 5,10 etc.. I could also do with knowing all this on a team level. Any other 'useful trivia' on how Ultimate is growing would also be appreciated. Thanks, Bin. CONFIDENTIALITY The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person or take copies. http://www.lhs.co.uk/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 18 14:50:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29595 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:44:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29550 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:44:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11639 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:44:24 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199906181344.OAA11639@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:34:42 +0100 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc , Alison Hill , kevin lowe Subject: Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:41:00 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies for posting to any of you who dont care about the game growing My local sports centre in Grantham has decided to use Ultimate as a spear head to maximise participation in sport during the summer amongst youngsters and adults. If their previous experience of promoting Basketball is anything to go by, there could be considerable interest. My main query concerns the playing of Ultimate by younger players between 8 and 15. I already teach Ultimate to F.E and H.E students.(16 plus) Have you any experience of running 3 hour weeky sessions with youngsters as young as 8? How do you organise the sessions? How do you adapt the game to suit? At which age is it a good idea to graduate to a heavier disc? If you use a lighter disc, what do you use, Where do you get them from? How much are they? Have I left out any important questions that I should be asking? thanks pu From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 20 11:16:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00363 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:14:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00345; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:14:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from silberman.traya.com (h139-142-237-24.cg.FiberONE.NET [139.142.237.24]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04159; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:14:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from britneyworld.com ([139.142.237.25]) by silberman.traya.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 71; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 03:43:34 -0600 Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 00:04:55 From: "Melissa Goldman" Subject: hey Message-ID: <19990620094322804.AAA265.71@britneyworld.com> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey how are you? My name is Melissa, I am 18 years old from California. I love horse back riding. I seen your email address in a webpage and I wanted to talk to someone because I have nothing to do, tell me more about your self. I even made a page about Britney Spears. It's at http://britneyworld.com, go to it it's the best.:-) Anways write back ok? and Visit my page. Melissa melissa_goldman@britneyworld.com http://BritneyWorld.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 20 23:49:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07807 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07802 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14008 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 10vqNR-0000qz-00; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:49 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10vqNO-0002Ed-00; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:46 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, gbm@wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk Subject: Cam99 Results Cc: frisbee@mrao.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:47:46 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 7 DiscGraceful 6 Whiplash (Spirit) 5 City Blue 4 Twin Peaks 3 Night Fever 2 Overflow 1 Strange Blue 1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 21 07:48:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20333 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20327 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23401 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA13621 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199906210647.HAA13621@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 26th June 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Tour IV (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 31st July 1999 WUCC 99 Tune up tournament (2 days) @ Trent Park, London [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Colin Wagstaff Comment By Invitation Only Email Colin.Wagstaff@EULERGroup.com Phone 0181 360 8816 (home) 0171 860 2630 (work) Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 21 13:15:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21087 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:13:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21075 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from portalcp1.chevron.com (firewall-user@portalcp1.chevron.com [208.33.240.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19052 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:13:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from orbitcity.chevron.com (orbitcity.sr.chevron.com [146.27.94.253]) by portalcp1.chevron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21877 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calgary.chevron.com (khan.calgary.chevron.com [146.29.210.200]) by orbitcity.chevron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA19950 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from marvin by calgary.chevron.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA07485; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:13:04 -0600 Received: from marvin.calgary.chevron.com by marvin (8.8.8+Sun) id JAA14460; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199906161554.JAA14460@marvin> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:54:30 -0600 (MDT) From: geoscene Reply-To: geoscene Subject: Ultimate Growth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: AdKQ/To1arlxgKpLsDQpNA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk First of all, sorry for opening up the debate again. (I had an email stuff up and nothing arrived for 3 weeks, then all of it appeared at once) However, as the database type geek for all disc sports in Alberta (that is in Canada) I can provide a number for the amount of people able to receive an electronic version of a newsletter- 58% said that they would accept an electronic version. Not that this changes any of the many and varied calculations performed by Roger, Paul, Ben and Del but at least you can factor in a real number for the percentage of people who want to kill trees. (The numbers here are: Calgary has 32 ultimate teams playing and ~90 golfers. So the numbers are not THAT far from those that the UK will experience. If anyone wants to know how the individual player database works here please email me at ibat@chevron.com) Just watching from afar (the same as Steven) Batty (always Strolling, sometime Happy and now a Couch) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 21 15:05:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17196 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:04:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17169 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:04:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28603 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10w4gO-0006Zo-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:04:21 +0000 Subject: London League web site and mailing list Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 15:05:40 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi The London League made a successful start last week. Round two takes place tomorrow (Tuesday). There is now a web site for the league, where results and other info are posted: http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ We also have a mailing list (which I can confirm is now operational) and I'd urge all league players to subscribe to it to keep in touch with the latest news and gossip. I will not be posting info to BritDisc. To subscribe to the list point your web browser at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/londonleague If you don't have web access and would like me to subscribe you to the list manually, please let me know. Thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 21 15:54:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29051 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:53:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29046 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:53:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.54.142]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03392 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:53:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.168.121.128] by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <19990621145329.BMOW13160.mta1-svc@[194.168.121.128]> for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:53:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:56:39 +0000 Subject: North London Practices From: "Robert Trup" To: Britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990621145329.BMOW13160.mta1-svc@[194.168.121.128]> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are being held on Wednesdays on Hampstead Heath extension, 10 minutes from Golders Green tube with Playthings and others.... 7pm till darkish If you wish to come please email rob.trup@virgin.net http://www.popstar.demon.co.uk not quite as far as clapham!!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 21 20:29:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23466 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:29:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23459 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14957 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:28:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 10w9kZ-00011V-00 for britdisc@warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:28:59 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 21 Jun 99 20:28:59 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.44); 21 Jun 99 20:28:54 +0100 Received: from default (143.167.197.186) by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 21 Jun 99 20:28:49 +0100 Message-ID: <007101bebc1c$d6680500$bac5a78f@default> Reply-To: "Fruit of my Boom" From: "Fruit of my Boom" To: Subject: for super"plop" dave (phat eds) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:32:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01BEBC25.34B45D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BEBC25.34B45D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dave pleasse give us a ring=20 Ben=20 01372 740263 ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BEBC25.34B45D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BEBC25.34B45D40-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 00:18:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA23033 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:17:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22936 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:17:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21236 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:17:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10wDJJ-0009OR-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:17:05 +0000 Subject: Re: North London Practices Date: Tue, 22 Jun 99 00:18:25 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "Britdisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Are being held on Wednesdays on Hampstead Heath extension, 10 minutes from >Golders Green tube with Playthings and others.... > >7pm till darkish > >If you wish to come please email > >rob.trup@virgin.net > >http://www.popstar.demon.co.uk > >not quite as far as clapham!!! That depends on where you live ;-) Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 12:18:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12124 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12114 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.129.138]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09290; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.92]) by beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26096; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from B12A-48.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b12a-48.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.52]) by cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id MAA13123; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:33 +0100 (BST) From: meeks Reply-To: mjb497@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: need a ride!!!!! (mmmmm???) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:35 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hiya At the mo' I am playing at Soton outdoors and attending my sister in law to be's hen night in Wimbledon on the Friday before. I was planning to get the train rediculously early on Saturday morning, but it would be ace if there's anyone coming from around that area on Saturday morning that could offer a lift. I will live in hope, but don't put yourselves out for it. Thanks Marika Barden aka Meeks of Skunks and Four Non Blondes 01703 558928 ---------------------- meeks mjb497@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 12:23:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12162 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12110 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.129.138]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09290; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.92]) by beech.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26096; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from B12A-48.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b12a-48.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.52]) by cedar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id MAA13123; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:33 +0100 (BST) From: meeks Reply-To: mjb497@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: need a ride!!!!! (mmmmm???) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:13:35 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hiya At the mo' I am playing at Soton outdoors and attending my sister in law to be's hen night in Wimbledon on the Friday before. I was planning to get the train rediculously early on Saturday morning, but it would be ace if there's anyone coming from around that area on Saturday morning that could offer a lift. I will live in hope, but don't put yourselves out for it. Thanks Marika Barden aka Meeks of Skunks and Four Non Blondes 01703 558928 ---------------------- meeks mjb497@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 14:04:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04329 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:03:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04321 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:02:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultra2.aber.ac.uk (ultra2.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18907 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:02:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcedcd.dph.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.48.164] helo=aber.ac.uk) by ultra2.aber.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10wQC4-0004TC-00; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:02:28 +0100 Message-ID: <376FF9E8.96C48397@aber.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:02:33 -0700 From: Dinesh Narayan Organization: The Integrated Sensors Research Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Britdisc Subject: ultimate in Cardiff over summer? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello folks!! Alex Livingstone is asking anyone (or if you know of someone) in the Cardiff area who plays ultimate and would like to continue to play if they could please get in touch with him. He is working there over summer and is keen to keep up his disc skills. He can be reached by phone on 01222 339303 or email me and I will pass the message on. Many thanks in advance! Cheers, Den -- The Integrated Sensors Research Group, Department of Physics, University of Wales, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SY23 3BZ new email address: djn94@aber.ac.uk phone: (01970) 622838 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 14:36:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11912 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:34:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11902 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:34:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23452 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:34:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10wQh9-000KcR-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:34:35 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:45:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: "'britdisc'" Subject: WUCC Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:45:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk UTI are seeded 22 at WUCC I couldn't be happier! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 16:41:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14170 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:40:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14154 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:40:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01269 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:40:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from pdds13a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.141.222] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10wSeg-0007ZZ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:40:11 +0100 Message-ID: <006f01bebcc5$547cd940$5ca193c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Fingers 6 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:38:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01BEBCCD.B3D438E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BEBCCD.B3D438E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to bother Britdisc with this request. Could someone from Fingers = 6 please contact me very soon otherwise they do not get to play this = weekend in Southampton. Cheers Iain ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BEBCCD.B3D438E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry to bother Britdisc with this=20 request.  Could someone from Fingers 6 please contact me very soon=20 otherwise they do not get to play this weekend in = Southampton.
 
Cheers
 
Iain
------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BEBCCD.B3D438E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 19:24:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12108 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:23:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12094 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:23:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22487 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:23:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02961 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:23:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from lr9.pub.brad.ac.uk (rslack@richC8lr9.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.158]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id TAA04315 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:23:49 +0100 (BST) From: richard slack Reply-To: R.Slack@Bradford.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The Ultimate Day Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:23:48 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id TAA12095 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone has mislayed an adidas watch in Leeds, I've got it. Again, many thanks to all those that turned up, especially The Journeymen all the way from Portsmouth and Noah, backpacking from Toronto. By 1 pm Chevron AF had cruised to victory after over seven hours of ultimate and beat Janitors soundly in the final (nevermind Penry, there's always St Andrews to make amends). The rest of the day was taken up with a hat tourney that proved a closer call (although there were some unavoidable mismatches). The spirit prize was awarded to everyone by the Feast and Firkin and accompanied by lemons that were going to be part of a Bradford call (you don't know how lucky you were Chevvy!). Anyway, we've already collected well over £300 and I'm expecting at least that in sponsorship money. Could anyone with either completed or empty sponsorship forms please return them to me ASAP with the money raised. - Janitors, do you have the £20 entry fee? Cheques should be payable to Marie Curie Cancer Care and sent to my address below. Marie Curie pass on their great thanks also. Cheers, Rich. Bradford Disciples/BOB ---------------------- 7 Edmund St, BRADFORD BD5 0BH. (01274) 732078. rslack@bradford.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 20:51:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23516 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:51:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23508 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:51:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27481 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-029.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.29]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA00146; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:49:01 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00c301bebce8$ddcbad20$1da492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: , "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Ultimate popularity Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:44:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 'Bin' (Robin?) I can give you somewhat innaccurate figures from this years BUF subscription forms: >From the 51 out of 115 teams who bothered to fill in the form(!), we counted 974 men and 347 women. That gives around 2200 men and 800 women in total if you extrapolate (dodgy). **HOWEVER** I would take these numbers with a considerable pinch of salt because:- 1. Many of the university teams reported how many *recruits* they got not how many people actually play on a regular basis. 2. Many teams were putting down vague numbers (eg 30 men and 10 women) and, amazingly, Catch 22 have 22 players (who'd a thought it?!) 3. I would think the teams who didn't fill in the form are generally less well organised and therefore might not have as many players as the rest. I would say that more realistic figures might be something like 1200 men and 400 women. In general, its very hard to say exactly how many players there are (What contitutes a player? Someone who attends one or more tournamnents? Someone who joined a club?) Until such time as we have individual membership of a national association we can't really answer your question accurately. Is this for a research project or are you offering to do a proper census for me? ;-) Ben BUF Secretary -----Original Message----- From: RGarton@LoweHoward-Spink.co.uk To: BRITDISC Date: 18 June 1999 11:20 Subject: Ultimate popularity >I need to get some figures on the growth/popularity of Ultimate in the UK. >If anyone knows any, can you let me know. > >Specifically, I'm after: > > The total number of players > The total number of players, 5, 10, 15 years ago - any amount that > anyone has info for. > The number of student players > The number of student players 5, 10 etc... > The number of women players > The number of women players 5,10 etc.. > >I could also do with knowing all this on a team level. > >Any other 'useful trivia' on how Ultimate is growing would also be >appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Bin. > > >CONFIDENTIALITY >The information in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential. It is >intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the named >recipient please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the >contents to another person or take copies. > >http://www.lhs.co.uk/ > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 22 20:52:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23504 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:50:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23498 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:50:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11728 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:50:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-029.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.29]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA00140 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:48:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00c101bebce8$dc41ffe0$1da492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: *ANOTHER* player in Surrey Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:22:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Prediction: By 2005 90% of Ultimate players will be living in Surrey! -----Original Message----- From: Arsenyk Ustaris To: BUF Date: 17 June 1999 17:54 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Arsenyk Ustaris >Address1: 61 Springfield Road >Address2: Guildford, Surrey >Post Code: GU1 4DW >Telephone: 01483 577 276 >Fax: >Message: I need to play Ultimate!!! > >Can you please send me information as to the >nearest Ultimate club in my area (Surrey/Sussex)? > >Thanks. > >-- Arsenyk > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 23 22:12:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06288 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06283 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06273 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dialup-0229.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.144.229]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA83269 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:11:03 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <00b101bebdbc$47be2ea0$fd90cbc1@default> From: "Eoghan Barry" To: "Britdisc" Subject: emergency wallet-ectomy at Worlds '99 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:05:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We encourage all teams to produce goods that can be sold to help = them raise cash to pay for the trip. However, as with all WFDF events, = teams cannot sell any products except through official WUCC outlets = during the week or at Trading Night on the Tuesday of the tournament. = Teams will have to register all their products with WUCC who will be = responsible for selling all goods for a 25% fee. Please bear this in = mind when you are designing and pricing your goods. =20 =20 Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee Am I alone in thinking this is all just a bit fucking much? Apparently = it is not enough to charge a player fee that is as much as the fee for an entire team in = the average UK tourney - the WFDF has to have a cut of absolutely everything bought = and sold during the week in St. Andrews. By my calculations the WFDF is = receiving around=20 =A3140,000stg* in team and player fees for WUCC '99. Where is all this = money going? To pay the salaries of the volunteers who will be working at Worlds? To = cover the=20 expense of brand new red cones to mark the pitches? To pay everyone's = green fees for a round at the golf club? How can an ultimate tournament possibly = cost this much=20 money to stage? I find the exhortation to produce your own merchandise to defray the = expense of going to Worlds particularly entertaining. I can't speak for any other teams = but in the case=20 of the Pookas giving a 25% cut to a crew of greasy middlemen would = entirely swallow our mark-up and then some. The net effect of this ruling will be to = inflate the price of merchandise that is going to be sold mainly to other competitors at the = tournament. =20 Who the hell are the WFDF to say I can't sell a t-shirt to a fellow = ultimate player=20 except through their taxed and dutied, officially sanctioned channels? = For whose=20 benefit is this tournament being run?=20 I will say here and now that anyone with enough screws loose to want any = Pookas gear (t-shirts, discs, blotter acid etc.) at Worlds merely has to sidle = up to me,=20 utter the code words 'Worlds is buying Charlie Mead a new house', and = I'll sort them out with the necessary. Dr. Benway Minister For Propaganda Dublin Pookas=20 *for reasons of laziness I assumed that each team brings 14 players = (hardly an over-estimate since you have to roster 12 minimum to enter) and that = there are 96 teams coming. 14 x =A3100 =3D =A31400 (player fees) + =A3100 (team fee) =3D =A31500 x = 96 =3D =A3144,000 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We encourage all teams to produce goods that can be sold to = help=20 them raise cash to pay for the trip. However, as with all WFDF = events, teams=20 cannot sell any products except through official WUCC outlets during = the=20 week or at Trading Night on the Tuesday of the tournament. Teams = will have=20 to register all their products with WUCC who will be responsible for = selling=20 all goods for a 25% fee. Please bear this in mind when you are = designing and=20 pricing your goods.
 
 
Charlie Mead
Chair = WFDF=20 Ultimate Committee
Am I alone in thinking this is all = just a bit=20 fucking much? Apparently it is not enough
to charge a player fee that is as = much as the=20 fee for an entire team in the average
UK tourney - the WFDF has to have a = cut of=20 absolutely everything bought and sold
during the week in St. = Andrews.  By my=20 calculations the WFDF is receiving around
£140,000stg* in team and = player fees for=20 WUCC '99.  Where is all this money going?
To pay the salaries of the volunteers who will be = working at=20 Worlds? To cover the
expense of brand new red cones to mark the pitches? = To pay=20 everyone's green fees
for a round at the golf club? How can an ultimate tournament possibly cost this much =
money to stage?
 
I find the exhortation to produce your own = merchandise to=20 defray the expense of going
to Worlds particularly entertaining.  I can't = speak for=20 any other teams but in the case 
of the Pookas giving a 25% cut to a crew of greasy = middlemen=20 would entirely swallow
our mark-up and then some.  The net effect of = this ruling=20 will be to inflate the price of
merchandise that is going to be sold mainly to other = competitors at the tournament. 
Who the hell are the WFDF to say I can't sell a = t-shirt to a=20 fellow ultimate player
except through their taxed and dutied, officially = sanctioned=20 channels? For whose
benefit is this tournament = being run?=20
 
I will say here and now that anyone = with enough=20 screws loose to want any Pookas
gear = (t-shirts, discs,=20 blotter acid etc.) at Worlds merely has to sidle up to = me, 
utter the code words 'Worlds is buying Charlie Mead = a new=20 house', and I'll sort
them out with the necessary.
 
Dr. Benway
Minister For Propaganda
Dublin Pookas 
 
*for reasons of laziness I assumed that each team = brings 14=20 players (hardly an
over-estimate since you have to roster 12 minimum to = enter)=20 and that there are
96 teams coming.
 
14 x £100 =3D £1400 (player fees) + = £100 (team=20 fee) =3D £1500 x 96 =3D £144,000
            &nbs= p;     =20
------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01BEBDC4.7E08D3E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 23 22:38:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09524 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:38:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09518 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07174 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10wuiX-0003Fn-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:38:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:15:39 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Snippets... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following article in Ultimatum 38 caught my eye: > Divehard revitalises Swedish Outdoor Season > ... Most action is taking place indoors because many teams cannot > scrape up enough players to practise 7-on-7 two or three times a > week... for the following reasons: 1) Two or three times a week, are there any teams in England that actually manage that? 2) Note the word "practise", which I take to mean that drills and tactical training occur, not just a couple of hours of variable level play. On another tack entirely, student teams looking for Freshers Fayre (aka Bunfight, etc) and newbie training stuff could do worse than check out the Australian Flying Disc Association website at www.afda.com which seems fairly well stacked with drills and promotional materials. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 24 09:15:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08129 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:14:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08118 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:13:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com Received: from soolin.barclayscapital.com (hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA27479 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:13:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.barclayscapital.com ([141.228.4.66]) by soolin.barclayscapital.com via smtpd (for [172.30.32.13]) with SMTP; 24 Jun 1999 08:13:57 UT Received: from finn.barclaycapital.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.barclayscapital.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA24836 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:14:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.barclayscapital.com by finn.barclaycapital.net via smtpd (for hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) with SMTP; 24 Jun 1999 08:13:09 UT Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Message-Id: <51A9FACC9BF1D21190D800805FFE61D96E144F@exlpseu010.ldn.bzwint.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lifts available from London to Southampton Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:12:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have room for two in my car, leaving from Clapham at 6.30 tomorrow (Friday) night, returning Sunday evening. E-mail me back or phone tonight on 0171 622 7588 if interested. Mark Albatross -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information about Barclays Capital, please visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group unless otherwise specifically stated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 24 09:55:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14178 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:54:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14173 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25250 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:51:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Simon Hill'" , "'britdisc'" Subject: RE: WUCC Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:50:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk UTI have been re-seeded 20 at WUCC You don't know how happy that makes me!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Hill [SMTP:simon.hill@actix.com] > Sent: 22 June 1999 13:45 > To: 'britdisc' > Subject: WUCC > > UTI are seeded 22 at WUCC > > I couldn't be happier! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 24 14:59:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20441 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:58:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20431 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:58:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25567 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:58:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from p85s07a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.135.134] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10xA1P-0005Jl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:58:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bebe49$7234b720$868793c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Tour IV Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:56:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEBE51.BE54A7C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEBE51.BE54A7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For everyone coming down to Southampton on the weekend, Captains meeting = is at 9am and the first games start at 9.30. =20 For those turning up on Friday night, the ground will be open early = evening, and if there is enough people then the groundsman said he would = open the bar in the club house. =20 Cheers =20 Iain ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEBE51.BE54A7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For everyone coming down to = Southampton on the=20 weekend, Captains meeting is at 9am and the first games start at=20 9.30.
 
For those turning up on Friday = night, the ground=20 will be open early evening, and if there is enough people then the = groundsman=20 said he would open the bar in the club house.
 
Cheers
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BEBE51.BE54A7C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 24 15:19:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25243 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25231 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:44 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25523 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:46 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:39 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27032A002E@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Termination of contact Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:33 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27032A002E@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEBE4C.7427D352" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEBE4C.7427D352 Content-Type: text/plain Hi folks Please not that the email address mark.jj@btinternet is no longer in operation. Cheers Mark PS - Sammy, could you please remove this address from Britdisc? I forgot to do it myself before I closed the account. 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In November. November 13th-14th. Reminder that it's for players of less than 3 months experience, no more than one experienced player on the pitch at one time. 32 teams this year, first-come-first-serve by the arrival of cheques (90 pounds per team). However, 1st teams are given preference so please send in separate cheques for each team. Send your money (early because it's filling up fast - woah, better act now - almost last minute) to: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament c/o Geoff Legg 7 Blackmore Way Wheathampstead Hartfordshire AL4 8LJ Any questions, e-mail Geoff at g.b.legg@sms.ed.ac.uk. (I, on the other hand, am only a messenger.) Charles. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 24 17:12:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21460 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:11:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21452 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:11:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f236.hotmail.com [216.32.181.236]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06188 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:11:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 89033 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jun 1999 15:47:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990624154746.89032.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 139.184.30.11 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:47:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [139.184.30.11] From: Keith Moon To: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Snippets... Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:47:46 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > >1) Two or three times a week, are there any teams in England that >actually manage that? > >Wayne The Mohawks (Uni of Sussex) practice 3 times a week, I'll have you know! At least 3 hours every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, and as of October, it will be 4 times a week, with an indoor session on Monday. Some of us are commited, BRING IT ON! Keith Moon-Mohawk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 24 18:21:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05100 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:21:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05089 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:21:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11043 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:21:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from solarfox.demon.co.uk ([194.222.54.251]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10xDBR-0008YG-0A; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:21:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:20:16 +0100 Cc: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Karl Guard Subject: Re: Snippets... References: <19990624154746.89032.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19990624154746.89032.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 <9mEP5LxPiZMLZDgplzJnzOvFEc> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In message <19990624154746.89032.qmail@hotmail.com>, Keith Moon writes >> >>1) Two or three times a week, are there any teams in England that >>actually manage that? > >> >>Wayne > >The Mohawks (Uni of Sussex) practice 3 times a week, I'll have you know! At >least 3 hours every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, and as of October, it will >be 4 times a week, with an indoor session on Monday. Some of us are >commited, BRING IT ON! > >Keith Moon-Mohawk > > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com I imagine most student teams practice three or four times a week (we certainly do) but that's not particularly surprising when we all live in the same district of the same city. Anyone fancy starting the geo-team debate AGAIN ????!!!! Karl, Phats -- Karl Guard From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 09:48:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11452 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:42:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11447 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:41:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13821 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:41:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10xRYb-0002SP-4J; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:41:58 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:40:19 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: "'britdisc'" Cc: "'Catch22'" Subject: What are the rules of this game? I thought I knew them... Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:40:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there Let me start by saying that Twin Peaks are seeded 22 :), but UTI have been moved to 20 :( Have we received official word on the rule changes that (primarily) affect the pull. In particular, have we had official confirmation that the team receiving the pull must play the disc from where they take possession - even in their own endzone. Is there information about what happens if the disc ROLLS out of the back? (I'm also looking forward to seeing the first "You didn't try to catch that pull that hit your hands, its a turnover"-argument.) Even more fundamentally, was the BUF informed that WFDF was thinking of shortening games? Note that at WUCC games are 100 mins or first to 15...!!! This is really the kind of information that one needs at the beginning of the pre-season not 5 weeks before the tournament!! I'm confused. At this rate we'll be having rule-changes during the tournament... Apologies to people not involved in WUCC - but actually all this stuff will affect everyone. Si - 22 Simon Hill, Actix Ltd Hamlet House, 77 Fulham Palace Road, Hammersmith, LONDON W6 8JA, UK Tel: +44 (0) 7000 188 288, +44 (0) 181 748 9828 Fax: +44 (0) 7000 188 388, +44 (0) 181 748 8797 simon.hill@actix.com http://www.actix.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 10:56:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25242 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:55:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25227 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:55:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.59]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13312 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:55:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 2994 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 1999 09:54:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19990625095425.2993.qmail@nwcst314.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.59 by nwcst314 via web-mailer(M3.2.0.17) on Fri Jun 25 09:54:25 GMT 1999 Date: 25 Jun 99 10:54:25 BST From: M Allen To: BritDisc BritDisc Subject: A few empty places... X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.17) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA25229 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies to all apart from any who are interested... SlipDisc are down to Ironman for Southampton. If anyone fancies a bit of a pick-up for us then hunt us down when you get there or mail Mal. mta99@usa.net Thanks. Mal. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 11:35:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03310 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03304 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24674 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from cst034.york.ac.uk (cst034.york.ac.uk [144.32.116.24]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15112 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:34:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:34:11 +0100 () From: Little Bird To: BritDisc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk end subscription <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. -Rabbit <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 12:03:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09079 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:02:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09070 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:02:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17532 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:02:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:57:24 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:01:30 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4B2@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: RE: What are the rules of this game? I thought I knew them... Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:01:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If the disc lands in and rolls out the back (or the side) then the rules stand as before. Also contrary to some peoples belief; the disc may be bricked whenever the disc is pulled out-of-bounds (not just if it goes out from the end-zone) Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Simon Hill[SMTP:simon.hill@actix.com] > Sent: 25 June 1999 09:40 > To: 'britdisc' > Cc: 'Catch22' > Subject: What are the rules of this game? I thought I knew them... > > Hi there > > Let me start by saying that Twin Peaks are seeded 22 :), but UTI have been > moved to 20 :( > > Have we received official word on the rule changes that (primarily) affect > the pull. In particular, have we had official confirmation that the team > receiving the pull must play the disc from where they take possession - > even > in their own endzone. Is there information about what happens if the disc > ROLLS out of the back? > (I'm also looking forward to seeing the first "You didn't try to catch > that > pull that hit your hands, its a turnover"-argument.) > > Even more fundamentally, was the BUF informed that WFDF was thinking of > shortening games? Note that at WUCC games are 100 mins or first to > 15...!!! > This is really the kind of information that one needs at the beginning of > the pre-season not 5 weeks before the tournament!! > > I'm confused. At this rate we'll be having rule-changes during the > tournament... > > Apologies to people not involved in WUCC - but actually all this stuff > will > affect everyone. > > Si - 22 > > > Simon Hill, Actix Ltd > Hamlet House, 77 Fulham Palace Road, Hammersmith, LONDON W6 8JA, UK > Tel: +44 (0) 7000 188 288, +44 (0) 181 748 9828 > Fax: +44 (0) 7000 188 388, +44 (0) 181 748 8797 > simon.hill@actix.com > http://www.actix.com > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 13:26:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26086 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:25:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26064 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:25:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06732 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:25:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from p77s04a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.164.120] helo=cow) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10xV2a-0005V3-00; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:25:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bebf05$8fd20500$78a493c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Tour IV Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:07:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As requested by Rafi, here are the directions to the Wellington Sports Ground: Arriving by car Definitely the easiest method. You have to go on the M27 from virtually any direction. From the M27 take junction 5 (signed Airport) and on the roundabout take the exit marked towards Chandlers Ford and Sports Grounds. (Eastbound this is the 1st exit on roundabout, Westbound it is the 3rd exit). Follow this road up and take the first left-hand turn into Stoneham Lane. Follow this for a hundred meters go past the church on your right and Wellington Sports ground is just after the church also on the right. Please park close together in the car park because there is only limited room, there is an overflow car park opposite - please use it, don't block people in. -----Original Message----- From: rafael freire To: Iain Roberts Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 3:34 PM Subject: Re: Tour IV >Any chance you could post some directions on britdisc? >Rafi > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 15:08:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20662 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:06:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20655 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:06:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.dircon.co.uk (mailhost.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28005 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:06:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.54.133] (th-en136-133.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.54.133]) by mailhost.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA08280; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:06:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Tour IV Message-Id: <000000244393013164446@daletaylor.co.uk> From: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:07:26 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: iain2@ministryofsound.net (Iain Roberts), Postmaster@mailhost.dircon.co.uk, raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jun 24, 1999, 4:07:49 pm GMT Iain Roberts wrote: >right. Please park close together in the car park because there is only >limited room, there is an overflow car park opposite Hot stuff! Our own reserved spaces. The merits of age eh? N --------------------------------------- Nolan Taylor Dale Taylor Ltd Email: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: 01323 430700 Fax: 01323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 25 18:30:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29524 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:28:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29515 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:28:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08556 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:28:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from paes10a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.138.175] helo=cow) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10xZlw-0008MM-00; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:28:16 +0100 Message-ID: <003901bebf2f$e73179a0$af8a93c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: "David J.C. MacKay" Cc: Subject: Re: Tour IV Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:25:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those that are coming by train. The second site is actually opposite the Airport Parkway Train Station. If you come out of the station and turn right, go up the road for about 100m and there's an entrance on the left hand side of the road. Go in here and you'll find four pitches marked out, if you head for the far right hand corner (as you look out onto the fields) then there a smaller clump of bushes. Head for those and there's a path that leads to a stile and a footbridge. Go over the footbridge and then into the rod that's opposite (Stoneham Lane). After 100m theres aa church on the right hand side and the Sports Ground is just after the church also on the right hand side. For drivers: Chris Hughes has also informed me that the left turn into Stoneham lane might be illegal (and very sharp), if you don't want to turn left then you can go up to the roundabout and come back on yourself. When I last drove that way, I didn't see any 'no left turn' signs - but I could have missed it quite easily. Cheers Iain -----Original Message----- From: David J.C. MacKay To: iain2@ministryofsound.net Date: Friday, June 25, 1999 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Tour IV >why do you never give decent directions from the train station? >It is very convenient to come by train. >The first time I came to your tournament there were no directions >and I ended up paying my life savings to a taxi driver. >If you simply told people how to walk from the airport station >you would be doing us all a service. > >D > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jun 26 20:51:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11159 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:49:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11153 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:49:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f215.hotmail.com [209.185.130.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA15743 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:49:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 35806 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 1999 19:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990626194837.35805.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.100.252.219 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:48:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.252.219] From: jen the swede To: mohawks@hotmail.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Snippets... Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:48:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Considering the fact that Mohawks had their first Swedish players in 91 - and has had some continuously playing for them up til now - I'm not surprised that they practise "so hard". They got it all from us in the first place!!! Jen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 28 07:21:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10642 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:20:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10636; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:20:11 +0100 (BST) From: totem@portal.ca Received: from portal.ca (d130-1.dialup.portal.ca [206.87.130.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA21663; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:20:09 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199906280620.HAA21663@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: 6/27/99 10:52:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time Reply-To: totem@portal.ca To: totem@portal.ca Subject: THE UNTOUCHABLES Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ___________________________________________________________ This Message was Composed by a user of Extractor Pro '98 Bulk E- Mail Software. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aloha! The sun is shining down and you wish you were on the Beach with some plastic in your hand? Here is what you need boys and girls: the 1st Paganello Photo Award is ready for you!! You have now the big chance to take a look at the best Paganello pictures (they are really excellent!!), taken by the Beach Ultimate Lovers right by the sea, vote the best one, send postcards and even win some Paganello stuff. (Hey! A big thank to all of you who shot and sent us pictures!!!) Do you want more? Ok, the persons who took the most voted pictures (check the rules for details) will stay for free at Paganello2000!! So, if you were here, just step back into the Paganello world and lose yourself between the sweet taste of memories and the burning desire of wanting some more! If you weren't here, just check what it's waiting for you! Yeah! 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Have fun! -Jack La Palma --- "Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream" (Lennon/McCartney) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 28 17:27:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08217 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:25:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08207 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:25:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA14719 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:25:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1978 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jun 1999 16:25:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19990628162550.1977.qmail@nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.26 by nwcst281 via web-mailer(M3.2.0.17) on Mon Jun 28 16:25:50 GMT 1999 Date: 28 Jun 99 17:25:50 BST From: M Allen To: BritDisc BritDisc Subject: Practices in Southampton X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.17) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA08208 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone who plays frisbee in Southampton let me know the practice times of their respective teams, as a member of SlipDisc is going to working there for a month or three and clearly needs the practice!!! Thanks, Mal. SlipDisc. (ex-Force Elektro, ex-Lemmings) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 28 20:12:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02826 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:11:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02819 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:11:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23134 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:11:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from [168.191.153.236] (sdn-ar-002txaustP220.dialsprint.net [168.191.153.236]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09668 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906281911.MAA09668@falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: car rentals in scotland Date: Mon, 28 Jun 99 14:10:54 -0500 x-sender: wallcity@earthlink.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: chris strehlau To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i'm travelling through scotland for a week after worlds. does anyone have the scoop on cheap(er) car rentals? it may be impossible to find any cars due to the edinburgh festival. any advise on travelling by bus or train? i'd like to see some remote places and the lakes and highlands, so the car may be my best bet. i'd also love to visit disc players around scotland. i promise good stories from the wild west. cheerz, spRocket btw: i still need a ride from london to st.andrews on the morning of aug.7th. Chris Strehlau Wall City/Jungle Bag http://www.wallcity.com 3401 merrie lynn austin, tx, 78722 u.s.a. phone 512.478.5066 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 28 22:27:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16722 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:26:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16717 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:26:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hil-img-6.compuserve.com (hil-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.177.136]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27293 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:26:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hil-img-6.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.19) id RAA07410 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:24:58 -0400 From: Stuart Clark Subject: Ultimate publicity..... To: Britdisc Message-ID: <199906281725_MC2-7B1C-EAFD@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id WAA16718 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More fuel to add to the fire about perceptions of Ultimate in the wider community. A small article of about two column inches appeared in the Daily Express' Saturday magazine over a week ago. It was dubiously a tongue in cheek article about park sports and certified the Daily Express as a less-than-quality paper. Anyway, the article read like this, and I quote (word for word).... "The great sport of Nineties Californian hippydom, beloved for its non-competitive, freewheeling nature and surf-bum, VW camper image. Frisbee is apt to go astray a lot - particularly if players, as is often the case, are stoned - and though it never quite seems to fulfill the threat that it will decapitate a toddler, it does have an extremely irritating way of disturbing the peace for picnickers. One is always glad to see a dog run away with the vile plastic disc." Yeah, maybe it's mildly amusing and maybe it was never meant to cause offence but where did this journalist (Oliver Bennett) do his research? Should we be offended or would a response be seen as knee-jerk reactionary - another minority group kicking up a fuss about something that the public at large generally don't give two hoots about. Maybe we should throw down the gauntlet and invite Oliver Bennett to Exeter - then maybe we could turn the negative into some positive publicity? For those of you who are incensed at the above, you can write to the Express editor on: express.letters@express.co.uk For reference again, the journalist was Oliver Bennett, the article was entitled "Oliver Bennett's taste test - Park Sports" and it appeared in the Saturday supplement (19th June). Where did Oliver Bennett "taste test" Frisbee? Anybody see him? Anybody heard of him? Maybe we should just deluge the Express' e-mail in-tray. Cheers Stu BAF #77 PS. If you do e-mail I'll keep an eye on the letters page and let you know if you strike it famous because I am, I hate to admit, a reader of a less-than-quality paper. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 09:51:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22808 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:51:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22797 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from web906.mail.yahoo.com (web906.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.81]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14811 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:50:57 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990629085208.9741.rocketmail@web906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.186] by web906.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:52:08 PDT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christian=20Nistri?= Reply-To: christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk Subject: RULE QUESTION To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please could some one advise me as to the rules regarding the following situation that occurred in our semi against UTI? I caught a layout D and slid out of the pitch, and then, before I got up and without establishing a pivot foot, I placed the disc on the ground. There were some on the sideline that seemed to think that I had just turned over again, a "double turn over" so to speak, but I wasn't so sure. So can some one clarify the issue, and would it make a difference if the same thing happened but I was in-field? === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 10:14:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26413 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:13:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26397 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:13:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from aligrafix.co.uk (merry.aligrafix.co.uk [193.123.31.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18786 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:13:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc8 (193.123.31.38) by aligrafix.co.uk with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:13:21 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bec20f$bbd26b60$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> From: "Michael Beaton" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Re: Ultimate publicity..... Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:14:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >. Where did Oliver Bennett "taste test" >Frisbee? Anybody see him? Anybody heard of him? Huh? It's fairly obvious he's talking about throwing Frisbees in a park, isn't it? We don't have to have heard of him for him to have an opinion about that. Which doesn't mean it mightn't be a reasonable idea to invite him to Exeter anyway. Mike Sharks/Playthings/LT/Team-X/Sharks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 10:27:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28887 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:26:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28881 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:26:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17951 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:26:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from postcard.kscl.com ([194.159.98.2]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10yu9o-0003nT-0B; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:26:24 +0000 Received: by POSTCARD.kscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E09470D1E19@letterbox.kscl.com> From: Fraser Macrae To: "'christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:24:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk as you cannot turn over again until the disk is in play, the question is whether or not you established a pivot foot to put the disk back into play before "dropping the disk". So no turn-over! However, because you caught the disk (had control) then slid out, you should have played the disk. Had this happened in the middle of the field you would have got up and continued play, maybe gone back to where your slide started, but you wouldn't have placed the disk on the ground for someone else. I think the new rules also say that if you catch the disk out of bounds you also have to play it yourself. Part of speeding up the game. I think it is therefore a turn-over and don't do it again! Fraser Sneeeky's, etc. -----Original Message----- From: Christian Nistri [mailto:wigsy22@yahoo.com] Sent: 29 June 1999 09:52 To: BRITDISC Subject: RULE QUESTION Please could some one advise me as to the rules regarding the following situation that occurred in our semi against UTI? I caught a layout D and slid out of the pitch, and then, before I got up and without establishing a pivot foot, I placed the disc on the ground. There were some on the sideline that seemed to think that I had just turned over again, a "double turn over" so to speak, but I wasn't so sure. So can some one clarify the issue, and would it make a difference if the same thing happened but I was in-field? === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 11:14:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07895 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:13:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@holly-fddi [137.205.4.5]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07855 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:13:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from web901.mail.yahoo.com (web901.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.76]) by holly.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA12783 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:13:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990629100718.2803.rocketmail@web901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.186] by web901.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:07:18 PDT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christian=20Nistri?= Reply-To: christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >as you cannot turn over again until the disk is in >play, the question is >whether or not you established a pivot foot to put the >disk back into play >before "dropping the disk". So no turn-over! Well this is my point. The disc hasn't been put back into play as no pivot foot had been established so I can't have turned over. Could some one tell me the relevant section in the WFDF rules that I should look at. Apologies to UTI if it was a turn over. Wigsy >However, because you caught the disk (had control) >then slid out, you should >have played the disk. Had this happened in the middle >of the field you would >have got up and continued play, maybe gone back to >where your slide started, >but you wouldn't have placed the disk on the ground >for someone else. === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 11:26:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10150 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:24:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10140 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:24:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21137 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:24:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10yv4N-000N3j-00; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:24:52 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA930651921; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:25:29 GMT Message-Id: <9906299306.AA930651921@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:23:41 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >So can >some one clarify the issue, and would it make a >difference if the same thing happened but I was >in-field? as happened in the final against Chevron. rob > >=== >Wigsy >22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 12:39:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25381 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:38:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25366 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04813 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10ywDC-000JID-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:38:02 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:28:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [Simon Hill] Before I get involed in all this - can I just thank Skunks and anyone involved in organising the tourney for a well-run and very enjoyable event. And add that the permutations for finishing places at TourV and their impact on who wins the Tour would make John Motson say "... but lets leave that to the mathematicians". Hopefully a stato (like me) will get a chance to go through the details and put them on BD as I think they will make the games more interesting to the neutrals in Exeter. > >So can > >some one clarify the issue, and would it make a > >difference if the same thing happened but I was > >in-field? > > as happened in the final against Chevron. > > rob > [Simon Hill] But I think the same point stands. Did Wigsy have possession at the point of "letting go of the disc"? (For those who didn't notice he was at the time lying face down on the ground - feet up in the air I would say.) Or to put it another way, had he thrown directly off the ground to one of his teammates, could an oppenent have called travel? What if he had thrown straight it to me in the endzone for a "score"? Presumably I would have to walk back to the front of the zone since strictly speaking I was taking possession from Chev. I believe that strictly speaking there was no turnover in either case. (Of course I believe that, otherwise I would have suggested to Wigs that he had turned over and should give the disc back at the time.) Having said all that I think we'll make sure that it doesn't happen again. We do our best to avoid all forms of controversy... :-) Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 13:04:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00886 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:03:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00857 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:03:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07773 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:03:13 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA14816 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:55:50 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:55:50 +0100 Message-Id: <001601bec227$690dfcb0$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: RULE QUESTION Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:03:33 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The rules (404.06 Out-Of-Bounds) state that "In the event the momentum of a player carries him out-of-bounds after making an in-bounds reception" (which I presume is the case since Wigsy "slid out of the pitch"),....., "The player shall resume play at the point he or she went out-of-bounds". Therefore my understanding would be that putting down a disc that has been caught would be considered a turnover whether on or off the pitch (other than obvious stuff like after timeout calls etc). And throwing the disc without having a established a legal pivot foot within th field of play is always travelling ! Balti BAF34 -----Original Message----- From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 29 June 1999 12:47 Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION > [Simon Hill] > Before I get involed in all this - can I just thank Skunks and >anyone involved in organising the tourney for a well-run and very enjoyable >event. > > And add that the permutations for finishing places at TourV and >their impact on who wins the Tour would make John Motson say "... but lets >leave that to the mathematicians". > Hopefully a stato (like me) will get a chance to go through the >details and put them on BD as I think they will make the games more >interesting to the neutrals in Exeter. > >> >So can >> >some one clarify the issue, and would it make a >> >difference if the same thing happened but I was >> >in-field? >> >> as happened in the final against Chevron. >> >> rob >> > [Simon Hill] > But I think the same point stands. Did Wigsy have possession at the >point of "letting go of the disc"? (For those who didn't notice he was at >the time lying face down on the ground - feet up in the air I would say.) > > Or to put it another way, had he thrown directly off the ground to >one of his teammates, could an oppenent have called travel? What if he had >thrown straight it to me in the endzone for a "score"? Presumably I would >have to walk back to the front of the zone since strictly speaking I was >taking possession from Chev. > > I believe that strictly speaking there was no turnover in either >case. (Of course I believe that, otherwise I would have suggested to Wigs >that he had turned over and should give the disc back at the time.) Having >said all that I think we'll make sure that it doesn't happen again. We do >our best to avoid all forms of controversy... :-) > > Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 13:39:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08725 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:38:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08701 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:38:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28547 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:38:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10yx9p-0004kz-4J for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:38:38 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:23:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:23:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [Simon Hill] Incidentally - I had an official response about the question of where the disc is played from if the pull rolls out of the back of the endzone. Apparently nobody had thought of that! And so they'll be amending things once they've worked out what to do! Ooops. > The rules (404.06 Out-Of-Bounds) state that "In the event the momentum of > a > player carries him out-of-bounds after making an in-bounds reception" > (which > I presume is the case since Wigsy "slid out of the pitch"),....., "The > player shall resume play at the point he or she went out-of-bounds". > [Simon Hill] Actually Wigs landed OB - ie didn't make an in-bounds reception. > Therefore my understanding would be that putting down a disc that has been > caught would be considered a turnover whether on or off the pitch (other > than obvious stuff like after timeout calls etc). > > And throwing the disc without having a established a legal pivot foot > within > th field of play is always travelling ! > [Simon Hill] Exactly my point. But if he doesn't have possession, how can dropping the disc result in a turnover. It can't. What if he has control, hits the ground, and then drops? Double turnover? No. The rule that allowed the so-called "double-turnover" was removed (as I understand it). It certainly is a grey-area - and the D-player would be well-advised to retain possession, get up onto his feet, and give the disc to his handler who will (by then) be standing 5 yards behind and to the left of him imploring him to throw a dump! :) Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 13:57:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13101 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:55:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13081 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:55:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13984 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:55:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10yxQ0-000N0V-4S for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:55:21 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:54:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4554@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:27:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si & all So the feeling is if someone (a defender) catches the disc and prior to establishing a pivot foot purposely drops (let go of/places on the floor) the disc, it is not a turnover, whether in field or not. Sounds a bit weird to me. Going back to yesteryear and the old dropped pull rule, would that have meant that if you slid out of the pitch whilst catching the pull and then dropped it/placed it on the floor, it would not have been a turnover? I don't think so! If you catch the disc you take possession of it, surely? Thanks to Wigsy for bringing this up. We alomost had a shouting match on field about it but agreed it was an issue to be discussed later. Who says the top teams don't play with spirit? Col, UTI. PS. Well done Catch and Chevy to bring the tour title down to the wire. I'll ensure Guy brings the trophy to Exeter. Apologies on behalf of Alex de Cart for forgetting the Southampton one. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 15:03:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00167 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:02:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00158 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:02:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24094 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:02:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:57:23 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:01:36 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4BC@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:01:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk No - just getting started. The rules last year clarified a couple of gray areas, but I still don't think they cover this. The rules now state that you have to have control of the disc and yourself to claim a catch (so no laying out catching the disc - putting a foot down to claim the score and then dropping the disc when you go splat) - you have to complete the catching action. This also rules out double turnovers when you get the D then drop it on landing. So the question is when have you completed the catch? - presumably when you have gained possession - ie established a pivot foot (thereby scoring if you are in the endzone). If you are not on the pitch and have never been you cannot have possession and therefore can place the disc on the floor (if on D) and have never completed the catch so you do not have to take possession. But then the looming monster that is spirit kicks in - if the 'drop' is a genuine fumble fair enough that is exactly what the rules set out to try and solve. If the 'drop' is deliberately placing the disc on the floor [CN: I placed the disc - CH: please note I didn't see or hear about the incident and am not implying any attempt by Christian to twist the rules] as callous attempt to allow a stronger handler pick up the disc then I would personally say that is pushing the limits too far. What about in-pitch. Well the rules only state a pivot foot is required, and it is only traveling if that pivot foot is moved (I suppose you could crawl up pitch without your feet touching the ground and that's not traveling?) But as before it is down to completing the catching motion, and when exactly you lost the disc. All of this is assuming that there was no contact, so no strip or foul. However as they stand; if the drop is accidental that is exactly what the double-turnover rule was designed to clarify, if the drop was blatantly deliberate you are pushing the spirit aspect of the rules. I think that rules never envisaged the situation that anyone playing ultimate didn't actually want the disc. The moral of the story Wiggsy would have to be, don't push the rules in future unless you can afford to give up the disc - presumably even you can get a five yard pass to Si. Chris (all this coming from the man who had a second go at possession because he got the D and then launched an incomplete pass without getting back to the pitch) > ---------- > From: Simon Hill[SMTP:simon.hill@actix.com] > Sent: 29 June 1999 13:23 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? > > [Simon Hill] > Incidentally - I had an official response about the question of > where the disc is played from if the pull rolls out of the back of the > endzone. Apparently nobody had thought of that! And so they'll be > amending > things once they've worked out what to do! Ooops. > > > The rules (404.06 Out-Of-Bounds) state that "In the event the momentum > of > > a > > player carries him out-of-bounds after making an in-bounds reception" > > (which > > I presume is the case since Wigsy "slid out of the pitch"),....., "The > > player shall resume play at the point he or she went out-of-bounds". > > > [Simon Hill] > Actually Wigs landed OB - ie didn't make an in-bounds reception. > > > Therefore my understanding would be that putting down a disc that has > been > > caught would be considered a turnover whether on or off the pitch (other > > than obvious stuff like after timeout calls etc). > > > > And throwing the disc without having a established a legal pivot foot > > within > > th field of play is always travelling ! > > > [Simon Hill] > Exactly my point. But if he doesn't have possession, how can > dropping the disc result in a turnover. It can't. > > What if he has control, hits the ground, and then drops? Double > turnover? No. The rule that allowed the so-called "double-turnover" was > removed (as I understand it). It certainly is a grey-area - and the > D-player would be well-advised to retain possession, get up onto his feet, > and give the disc to his handler who will (by then) be standing 5 yards > behind and to the left of him imploring him to throw a dump! :) > > Si - 22 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 15:29:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05855 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:28:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05830 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:28:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27415 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:28:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.200]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 10yys1-0004AX-00; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:28:21 +0100 Received: from DUNDEE-AS/SpoolDir by dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 29 Jun 99 15:26:54 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-AS (Mercury 1.44); 29 Jun 99 15:26:45 +0 From: "Steve Morrish" Organization: Dundee University To: express.letters@express.co.uk Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:26:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Oliver Bennet's article on frisbee CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear sir, Oliver Bennet's article on frisbee being a vile sport, with the threat of decapitation a real one, was both ludicrous and damaging to what is a growing sport in this country. That the article was tongue in cheek does not make up for the fact that your reporter failed to do any research whatsoever on this subject. Has he ever played Ultimate (the sport played with a frisbee)? Has he ever been to one of the many well organised competitions that are held around the country on almost a weekly basis? Did he make any attempt whatsoever to find anyhting out about the sport at all? No, he did not. I am incensed that such an article was carried by what I had regarded as a quality newspaper. The Ultimate World Championships are being held in St Andrews between the 8th and the 14th of August. Perhaps Mr Bennet would like to attend, to see what Ultimate is all about. He will find none of the stereotypical attributes he seems to think are rife within the sport. How can we hope to raise the profile of the sport in this country, if narrowminded, brainless idiots such as Mr Bennet continue to portray frisbee as being played by stoned, long-haired hippies with nothing better to do with their time than to endanger the health of picnickers? Not only does this article damage the sport, which if he had bothered to do any research whatsoever, he would have found that it promotes sportsmanship, friendship and the spirit of the game above everything else, but has also damaged the credibility of these very attributes. There are many people, myself included, who are desperate to introduce Ultimate to schools, both to prolong the sport and help it grow, and to promote the three ideals mentioned previously. Mr Bennet may consider himself a humourous journalist, but in reality, he is nothing more than a petty, unimaginative hack. Yours in disgust, Steve Morrish Captain, Shooting Stars Ultimate Frisbee Club University of Dundee From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 15:42:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08837 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:40:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08826 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:40:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06437 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:40:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:36:10 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:40:23 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4BE@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Charles Heenan'" , "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Tour V and Ross Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:40:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Invites for Tour V - which will definitely be at Exeter will be sent out from Kevin Lowe, and on Britdisc so that all may see. (hopefully soon) Ross-on-Wye - as ever is hosted (neither myself or the Druids would ever claim it was organised) by the Druids. Invitations will presumably be going out at some stage - whenever Wayne Retter has a free minute. Chris > ---------- > From: Charles Heenan[SMTP:Charles_Heenan@stewartivory.co.uk] > Sent: 28 June 1999 13:18 > To: CHughes@chelt.ac.uk > Subject: Tour V and Ross > > > > Hey Chris, > > I'm looking to send off registration cheques for Tour V and for Ross. Are > you the man for Tour V and how much for Ross? > > Charles. > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > www.mimesweeper.com > ********************************************************************** > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 16:25:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18268 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:24:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18258 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:23:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from portalcp1.chevron.com (firewall-user@portalcp1.chevron.com [208.33.240.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08886 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:23:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from chvpk-msxb1.sr.chevron.com (chvpk-msxb1.sr.chevron.com [146.27.94.102]) by portalcp1.chevron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14720 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by chvpk-msxb1.backup.chevron.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:23:44 -0700 Message-ID: <19F52E0DF38ED211865600805F31B8F9A31EC7@cal-msx2.calgary.chevron.com> From: "Batty, Ian (IBAT)" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Pivot foot Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:23:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think that the rule question seems to be getting hung up on whether or not the player has established a pivot foot. I don't see this as being necessary for a player to be judged as having completed the catch. An example: I lay out (yeah I know, this is fictional), catch the disc in the end zone and then slide out of the zone. My first point of contact with the ground was in the field of play, I retained control of the disc at all times but I never establised a pivot foot. Does this mean that the point does not count? Surely, the end of the catch is when the player with the disc has control of the disc AND control of themselves i.e. they have stopped sliding, running or whatever. Establishing a pivot foot is not necessary to obtain possession, it is necessary to be able to throw. So, the way I read it (sorry Christian): If you PLACED the disc, this implies you had control and means turnover. If you let go whilst skidding you could say that a blade of grass/ mud up your nose/ whatever knocked the disc out of your hand Just my thoughts Batty ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ian Batty Oilfield Systems Limited ibat@chevron.com 953, 500-5th Avenue SW work: +1 403 234 5219 Calgary AB T2P 0N5 fax: +1 403 234 5616 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 18:46:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14462 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:45:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14454 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:45:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17027 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:45:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from p6fs08a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.136.112] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10z1wR-0006Wn-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:45:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000701bec256$e919a2e0$708893c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: Subject: Tour IV results Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:42:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEC25F.33F309C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEC25F.33F309C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry about the delay BD, but here are the results from the weekend. 1. Catch 22 2. Chevron AF 3. UTI 4. Doughboy 5. Red 6. SOUP 7. Headrush 8. BAF 9. Druids 10. Overflow 11. Nightfever 12. First Touch 13. Strange Blue (Plate) 14. Sharks 15. Pookas 16. Phat'Eds 17. Mohawk Mwnci Magic 18. Skunks 19. Wyld Stallions 20. Bliss 21. MMJ 22. Albatross 23. Twin Peaks 24. SMUDGE 25. BAF Too 26. Fingers 6 27. Gael Force 28. Slipdisc 29. Red 2 30. Hurricanes 31. Skunks 2 32. 4 Non Blondes Spirit: - Gael Force MVP: - Gary(Catch 22) Vanessa and the rest of 4 Non Blondes raised =A358 for the Big Issue = Foundation, I don't know how much Becca and the rest of Bliss raised = with their competition - no doubt they'll let us know. I hope everyone had a good time, I did - see you all in Exeter. Cheers Iain ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEC25F.33F309C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry about the delay BD, but here = are the=20 results from the weekend.
 
1. Catch 22
2. Chevron AF
3. UTI
4. Doughboy
5. Red
6. SOUP
7. Headrush
8. BAF
9. Druids
10. Overflow
11. Nightfever
12. First Touch
13. Strange Blue = (Plate)
14. Sharks
15. Pookas
16. Phat'Eds
17. Mohawk Mwnci Magic
18. Skunks
19. Wyld Stallions
20. Bliss
21. MMJ
22. Albatross
23. Twin Peaks
24. SMUDGE
25. BAF Too
26. Fingers 6
27. Gael Force
28. Slipdisc
29. Red 2
30. Hurricanes
31. Skunks 2
32. 4 Non Blondes
 
Spirit: - Gael Force
 
MVP: - Gary(Catch 22)
 
Vanessa and the rest of 4 Non Blondes raised = £58 for the=20 Big Issue Foundation, I don't know how much Becca and the rest of Bliss = raised=20 with their competition - no doubt they'll let us know.
 
I hope everyone had a good time, I = did - see you=20 all in Exeter.
 
Cheers
 
Iain
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEC25F.33F309C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 19:31:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA21914 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:30:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21900 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:30:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20038 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:30:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from p6fs12a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.140.112] helo=cow) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10z2eM-00072h-00; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:30:31 +0100 Message-ID: <00ae01bec25d$3ff63640$708893c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: "Simon Hill" , Subject: Re: RULE QUESTION Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:28:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > [Simon Hill] > Before I get involed in all this - can I just thank Skunks and >anyone involved in organising the tourney for a well-run and very enjoyable >event. Thanks Si, could people please comment on how the split site worked (if at all!) - I believe it was the first split site tour tournament. I didn't get round there very much due to awkward playing times etc, I assume that people took it upon themselves to run their own games. Did this work or did it add fuel to the "having two divisions" fire, no one complained openly about it but this doesn't mean anything of course. Sorry for startinf another possible debate on the back of another one, but I'm interested and I know the Skunks/Chris Hughes that run it next year will be interested. Cheers Iain now ex-Skunk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 21:08:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05591 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:06:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05585 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:06:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24926 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:06:25 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA19351 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:06:06 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.252.136) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xmaa19319; Tue, 29 Jun 99 21:05:50 +0100 Received: by kevinl133 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEC273.39D2DAA0@kevinl133>; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:06:16 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEC273.39D2DAA0@kevinl133> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Tour V Invites - at last Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:39:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA05586 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry these are so late, but here are the details. Written details, maps, directions, etc. go into the post tomorrow to all teams that have entered a tour tournament this year. Duckes Meadow, Exeter - July 17/18, 1999 Uriel would like to invite you to the final event of the 1999 BUF Ultim8 Tour. The tournament is being held at Exeter University's Duckes Meadow where 10 lined pitches can cope with up to 32 teams As usual, accommodation is courtesy of Double Locks Pub, located a 10 minute walk away from the pitches (15 minutes by car, or 1 minute swimming). If camping is not your style, then there is a B&B available on request. Free camping is available any night, but please respect the pub's rules. Don't bring your own drink! Don't eat your own food on their premises (or at least don't be seen doing so). They reserve the right to kick anyone and everyone off their premises for abusing these rules. There will be a food tent on the pitches providing hot and cold food (a more extensive choice than normal, we hope). Friday and Saturday evening, Double Locks will be serving their normal menu meals, and providing a Bar-B-Q both evenings. There are numerous restaurants and take-aways in town. Just head for the main high street. We hope to improve facilities by having water more available on the pitches, and a marquee if the weather is bad. This year, there will be two physios attending. The cost of the tournament is £60 (plus £15 tax). Please send a cheque (payable to Jennie McLaren) to be received no later than July 10th. If you haven't paid your £15 BUF tax deposit yet, then send it to Dora Kemp (McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER) Captain's meeting will take place at 09:00 on the Saturday, with matches beginning at 09:30. On the Sunday, matches will start at 09:00 sharp, with the presentations being held by 17:00. Enclosed is the list of teams that have paid their deposit. Any team that hasn't paid their £60 by July 10th, or hasn't come to some agreement with us, may be excluded from the tournament. Kevin Lowe & Jennie Mclaren. Spring Cottage, Church Green, Gresford, Wrexham. LL12 8RG. Tel: 01978-852819 (Home & Work), 07974 417626 (Mobile) Email: Kev@cheerful.com Contact Name: __________________________________ Team Name: __________________________________ Address: __________________________________ Tel: __________________________________ Email: __________________________________ Teams that have paid their BUF deposit (27 so far). Strange Blue Bliss Whiplash Twin Peaks Skunks Chevron Action Flash Druids Gael Force Nightfever Albatross Headrush Blue Arse Flies 1 Blue Arse Flies 2 First Touch UTI Phat Eds Red I Red II Slipdisc MMJ Mohawk Mwnci Magic Catch 22 SOUP Wyld Stallions Kniggets/aka Bruce Lee Dragons 4 Non Blondes Sharks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 29 22:30:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14498 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:28:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14492 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:28:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24292 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:28:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-039.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.39]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA02473 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:27:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000001bec276$baad4680$27a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Oliver Bennet's article on frisbee Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:23:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hmmm. Nice letter, well written, etc, etc, but I think the editor will now read all that hyperbole and just say "piss off" to anything related to 'Frisbees'. As Mike Beaton (Shark) pointed out, they never mentioned Ultimate so we can't exactly accuse them of harming our sport! I doubt that a journalist is going to respond favourably to a hoards of irate students playing a sport with a silly name condemning their work. Instead, I think we should be writing positive "well actually its a great new sport...." style letters. Some will no doubt accuse me of control freakery but it would have been nice to let someone from the BUF (I'm thinking Jon Hope - publicity officer) at least suggest some sort of strategy to how people could best respond. Its a shame we didn't have a debate about this before sending off "yours, angry of Ultimateville" letters. Whatever - its a free country (!) and I hope something positive comes of this opportunity. I reckon a formal invitation from the BUF to come and see ultimate being played would be a good move. Your call Jon. Keep scouring those tabloids Stu! Ben RED 10 (my opinions only) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Morrish To: express.letters@express.co.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 29 June 1999 15:32 Subject: Oliver Bennet's article on frisbee Dear sir, Oliver Bennet's article on frisbee being a vile sport, with the threat of decapitation a real one, was both ludicrous and damaging to what is a growing sport in this country. That the article was tongue in cheek does not make up for the fact that your reporter failed to do any research whatsoever on this subject. Has he ever played Ultimate (the sport played with a frisbee)? Has he ever been to one of the many well organised competitions that are held around the country on almost a weekly basis? Did he make any attempt whatsoever to find anyhting out about the sport at all? No, he did not. I am incensed that such an article was carried by what I had regarded as a quality newspaper. The Ultimate World Championships are being held in St Andrews between the 8th and the 14th of August. Perhaps Mr Bennet would like to attend, to see what Ultimate is all about. He will find none of the stereotypical attributes he seems to think are rife within the sport. How can we hope to raise the profile of the sport in this country, if narrowminded, brainless idiots such as Mr Bennet continue to portray frisbee as being played by stoned, long-haired hippies with nothing better to do with their time than to endanger the health of picnickers? Not only does this article damage the sport, which if he had bothered to do any research whatsoever, he would have found that it promotes sportsmanship, friendship and the spirit of the game above everything else, but has also damaged the credibility of these very attributes. There are many people, myself included, who are desperate to introduce Ultimate to schools, both to prolong the sport and help it grow, and to promote the three ideals mentioned previously. Mr Bennet may consider himself a humourous journalist, but in reality, he is nothing more than a petty, unimaginative hack. Yours in disgust, Steve Morrish Captain, Shooting Stars Ultimate Frisbee Club University of Dundee From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 00:00:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24294 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:58:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24277 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:58:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27167 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:58:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10z6pb-000F14-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:58:26 +0000 Message-ID: <9wciCJASwTe3Ewga@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:35:14 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4BC@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4BC@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk HUGHES, Chris writes CH>The rules now state that you have to have control of the disc and CH>yourself to claim a catch... officially (1998 WFDF Rules) phrased as: 404.12 The Receiver: A. Possession: A receiver gains possession by demonstrating sustained contact and control of a non-spinning disc while the receiver is on the ground and in-bounds. Loss of control due to ground contact related to a pass reception negates that receiver¹s possession up to that point CH>If you are not on the pitch and have never been you cannot have CH>possession and therefore can place the disc on the floor (if on CH>D) and have never completed the catch so you do not have to take CH>possession. So could this apply to aerial and layout D, too? I could make the jump/layout, catch the disc and throw/drop it to the ground, before I make ground contact without it being a "double" turnover? The rules don't say much about the D, but they do say this about interceptions: 404.12 The Receiver: E. Interception: A pass is considered intercepted if a defensive player catches a pass. If a defensive player catches a pass and accidentally loses possession of it before or during ground contact related to that catch, the defender is considered to have blocked rather than intercepted the pass. Therefore, as Chris says (but with the official words to back me up) I agree that we're looking at ACCIDENTALLY as the key phrase (and realise I can't get away with my jump/layout above) I'd also now argue that the only difference between an Offensive catch and a Defensive catch is that you are allowed to ACCIDENTALLY drop/put down a Defensive catch without penalty, and that position on/off pitch is irrelevant. This means, by my reckoning, that Wigsy turned over due to his deliberately putting down the disc, even though he was out of bounds, for another player to pick up. He should have been the one to bring the disc back to the pitch and put it in play. I reckon that some of the more agressive teams might even have tried stalling Wigsy whilst he was out of bounds (I've been stalled by a marker whilst still in a post-layout slide!), and putting the disc down would constitute a throwaway after the interception, even though he never made it back onto the pitch. (I reckon some opposition might let you put the disc down if you're lying in a tangled heap and needed that hand free to be able to make it back to your feet - but only if you were on D, landed off-pitch, promised that you'd pick the disc up again, and asked first!) As for Si's scenario of Wigsy converting his layout D into a Greatest assist... you'd have to start looking at the rules involving having a pivot foot... 404.10 The Thrower: A. A player may become "the thrower" by fielding a pull, receiving the disc from a teammate, intercepting a pass from an opponent, or by picking up the disc after a turnover. Whenever the disc is on the ground following a turnover, whether in or out-of-bounds, any player becoming offense may take possession of the disc and become the thrower. A defensive player who establishes possession of the disc becomes the thrower, but may not throw the disc before he or she establishes a legal pivot foot. To do so is a travelling violation. B. Prior to releasing a throw, the thrower must establish a pivot foot and may not change that pivot foot until the throw is released except in the case of an offensive player who has just received a pass and is throwing before the third ground contact in accordance with 404.12(C). The thrower has the right to pivot off the pivot foot in any direction. However, once the marker has established a legal position, the thrower may not pivot into him. The thrower may throw the disc in any manner and in any direction he or she chooses. C. In the event the disc is dropped by the thrower without defensive interference, it is considered an incomplete pass. and wonder whether even the Greatest is technically allowable... - OK, it's a throw before the third ground contact... - BUT, the Greatest thrower is technically a receiver, until the in/out bounds status (and thus completeness of the pass) is determined by the points of contact immediately before and after the catch... - except that the receiver no longer has the disc when landing OB... Then again, the Greatest is a thing of beauty and is deserving of respect, and the Comment at the beginning of The Rules suggests that such respect should merit allowance. Sticking to the Rules, though, we seem to end up pretending that the whole Greatest thing was merely a freak air current (!?) and that the "original" pass is the one that completed - in which case the receiver of Wigsy's hypothetical D-come-Greatest is the real intercepting player, and gets to walk to disc to the endzone line rather than celebrate the score immediately. Another thing I've just noticed, an intercepting receiver cannot throw on the run, but MUST establish a pivot foot before throwing. Cue: Discussions on how long a foot must be on the ground to be a pivot foot.. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 00:00:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24296 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:58:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24285 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:58:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01962 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:58:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 10z6pc-000F15-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:58:25 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:49:23 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour V and Ross References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4BE@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4BE@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk HUGHES, Chris writes >Ross-on-Wye - as ever is hosted (neither myself or the Druids would ever >claim it was organised) by the Druids. Invitations will presumably be going >out at some stage - whenever Wayne Retter has a free minute. > >Chris Ross - the story so far... The pitches are booked. Date is confirmed as 24+25 July 1999. We may, or we may not, have access to the clubhouse - and therefore toilets, showers, water and power supplies are a concern at the moment. Until this has been negotiated (by Adam, hopefully this week) and any costs of alternatives ascertained, the entry fee is unknown. [I'd hope it would be less than the 1998 GBP 110.00, but expect more than the previous GBP 75.00] The Druids are also negotiating as to which of them will be responsible for receiving money, answering queries, etc (I'll be on holiday in the middle of this essential period!) The following foreign teams have, so far, been allocated spaces: Feral, from Sydney, Australia Les Vieux Invalides, from Paris, France Pookas, from Dublin, Ireland Fluid Druids, and two other UK teams (they know who they are) have been allocated places. There are therefore 18 remaining. If anyone is REALLY keen to come, you could contact me for details of where to send a BLANK CHEQUE!!! Wayne Retter on behalf of Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 10:17:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24792 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:14:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24781 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:14:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19973 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:14:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 10zGRN-000DLM-00; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:14:02 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA930734085; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:14:48 GMT Message-Id: <9906309307.AA930734085@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:13:02 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I reckon that some of the more agressive teams might even have tried >stalling Wigsy whilst he was out of bounds (I've been stalled by a >marker whilst still in a post-layout slide!), I think that was probably me. >and wonder whether even the Greatest is technically allowable... >- OK, it's a throw before the third ground contact... >- BUT, the Greatest thrower is technically a receiver, until the in/out >bounds status (and thus completeness of the pass) is determined by the >points of contact immediately before and after the catch... >- except that the receiver no longer has the disc when landing OB... > >Then again, the Greatest is a thing of beauty and is deserving of >respect, and the Comment at the beginning of The Rules suggests that >such respect should merit allowance. I thought it was generally accepted that the Greatest Play is an exception to the rules. Incidentally, the last completed Greatest I saw was by Si Moore to Si Weeks for a score against Germany in Minnesota last year, which is certainly deserving of respect. love rob chevron action flash From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 10:33:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28931 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:32:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28924 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:32:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from aligrafix.co.uk (merry.aligrafix.co.uk [193.123.31.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21183 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:32:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc8 (193.123.31.38) by aligrafix.co.uk with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:32:28 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01bec2db$91845db0$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> From: "Michael Beaton" To: Subject: Tour format Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:33:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there a document around with the tour formats for each of the five tours on it? Mike (Sharks/ex.LT) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 10:41:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00561 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:41:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00550 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:41:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from web905.mail.yahoo.com (web905.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.80]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21630 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:41:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990630094108.8035.rocketmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.139.186] by web905.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:41:08 PDT Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:41:08 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christian=20Nistri?= Reply-To: christian.nistri@btm.bt.co.uk To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >>Then again, the Greatest is a thing of beauty and is >>deserving of >>respect, > Incidentally, the last completed Greatest I saw was >by Si Moore to Si >Weeks for a score against Germany in Minnesota last >year, which is certainly >deserving of respect. But alomost certainly NOT a thing of beauty. On a different tack thanks for the clarification on whether it was a turn over. General consensus seems that it was a turn over, so as already said to UTI, my apologies, and to that goes for Rob to or I'll never hear the end of it from you. See you all in Exeter, where hopefully I won't be getting skinned by my man and have to lay out to get the block. Wigsy === Wigsy 22,JTM,DAD, EX-BOUFFANT _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 13:28:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04634 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04626 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09038 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA04207 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:21 +0100 (BST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:18 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127014FE5D1@RMExchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: Andy Cotgreave To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: laura pearce's e-mail/tel no. Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:27:18 +0100 Organization: RM plc X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi, laura, are you there? does anyone have contact details for Laura, please ta Andy ========== RM plc acotgreave@rmplc.net tel: 01235 823254 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 15:21:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28596 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:20:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28578 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:20:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.tue.nl (mailhost.tue.nl [131.155.2.5]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06823 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:20:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from tnt1.chem.tue.nl [131.155.80.42] by mailhost.tue.nl (8.9.3) for id QAA28572 (ESMTP). Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:20:06 +0200 (MDT) Received: by tnt1.chem.tue.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:20:06 +0200 Message-ID: <23285647B6CFD111B783002048083698B91C38@tnt1.chem.tue.nl> From: "Woerkom, C.P.L." To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Invitation VIP Tournament 1999 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:20:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEC303.A65443C0" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEC303.A65443C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" VIP Indoor Ultimate Frisbee Tournament '99 During the weekend of November 6&7, the annual Light City Flyers VIP indoor ultimate frisbee tournament will take place. The tournament will be held in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. In the previous years teams from Holland, Belgium, Germany, France and England competed for the prizes. Last year the winners were Crunch from the Netherlands (a list of results can be found at http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/histvip1998.htm). We expect again to welcome many teams from all out of Europe. There is place for 24 teams. The tournament will be held at the Students Sportscentre in Eindhoven (different from last year). We will have three indoor halls at our exposal. The address is Studentensportcentrum Eindhoven, O.L.Vrouwestraat 1, Eindhoven, tel: +31-(0)40-2473232. The team-fee for participating in the tournament will be HFl 200,-. For the small amount of HFl 15,- you can sleep at the sportscentre and have breakfast. Dinner is optional. For HFl 15,- you can enjoy a meal at the mensa in Eindhoven. Please let us know if you prefer a vegetarian menu. The centre of the city however is nearby, plenty of restaurants can be found there. The closing date for subscribing for the tournament will be October 1st, 1999. You can subscribe by paying the tournament costs and filling in the registration form attached below. But be quick, first come first serve. Last years we had to turn down teams. The registration forms can be send to: Light City Flyers Chopinlaan 20 5653 EW Eindhoven The Netherlands or mailed to C.P.L.Woerkom@tue.nl The tournament costs can be paid at: Postbank, account nr. 1021840 Light City Flyers, Eindhoven (please note: VIP'99 and team name!) 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEC303.A65443C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 15:58:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05841 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:57:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05818 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:57:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08946 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:57:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:52:48 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:57:02 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4C2@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: RULE QUESTION - bored yet? Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:56:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > >I reckon that some of the more agressive teams might even have tried > >stalling Wigsy whilst he was out of bounds (I've been stalled by a > >marker whilst still in a post-layout slide!), > > I think that was probably me. > CH] if he was inbounds - screw him, serves him right for lying down on the job. If he was out of bounds - harsh. But then I've seen Dave Barnard stall Si Weeks (his best mate) whilst Si was out of bounds, and pinned down since Dave had laid out on top of him. > >and wonder whether even the Greatest is technically allowable... > >- OK, it's a throw before the third ground contact... > >- BUT, the Greatest thrower is technically a receiver, until the in/out > >bounds status (and thus completeness of the pass) is determined by the > >points of contact immediately before and after the catch... > >- except that the receiver no longer has the disc when landing OB... > > > >Then again, the Greatest is a thing of beauty and is deserving of > >respect, and the Comment at the beginning of The Rules suggests that > >such respect should merit allowance. > > I thought it was generally accepted that the Greatest Play is an exception > to > the rules. Incidentally, the last completed Greatest I saw was by Si Moore > to Si > Weeks for a score against Germany in Minnesota last year, which is > certainly > deserving of respect. > > love rob > chevron action flash > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 17:54:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29433 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:52:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29417 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:52:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15322 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:52:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from clw13.clw.org ([209.8.25.198]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:45:02 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990630125228.006d9a84@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:52:28 -0400 To: "Rob Mitchell", From: Stephen Young Subject: The Greatest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At 10:13 AM 6/30/99 GMT, Rob Mitchell wrote: >I thought it was generally accepted that the Greatest Play is an exception to >the rules. Incidentally, the last completed Greatest I saw was by Si Moore to Si >Weeks for a score against Germany in Minnesota last year, which is certainly >deserving of respect. > >love rob >chevron action flash In the U.S. (not to be overly obnoxious, but where most of the terminology comes from), you have the "Play" and you have the "Greatest". The Play is simply the act of throwing a disc back in bounds while in the air out of bounds. The Greatest is the Play for a score. So, you can't, as above, do the Greatest for a score. That is redundant. Of course, this doesn't help the current debate, and I'm just being a pain in the ass, but afterall, I am an American. Stephen currently Pokomoke, formerly Gun, permanently Happy ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 17:58:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00595 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:58:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00586 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:58:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10137 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:58:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from clw13.clw.org ([209.8.25.198]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:50:32 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990630125758.006de268@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:57:58 -0400 To: Stephen Young , "Rob Mitchell", From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: The Greatest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, damn, unclear. You have to add "to another player on your team" as below. >In the U.S. (not to be overly obnoxious, but where most of the terminology >comes from), you have the "Play" and you have the "Greatest". The Play is >simply the act of throwing a disc back in bounds to another player on your team >while in the air out of bounds. The Greatest is the Play for a score. So, you can't, as above, do >the Greatest for a score. That is redundant. > ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 23:18:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07239 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:16:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07231 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:16:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA25327 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:16:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 32288 invoked from network); 30 Jun 1999 22:16:47 -0000 Received: from dyn216-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO mailbox.dsnet.it) (195.250.230.216) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 30 Jun 1999 22:16:47 -0000 Message-ID: <377A9741.210E079D@mailbox.dsnet.it> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:16:33 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] Charlie Mead on Wucc99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi ultimate freaks! 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Keep 'em spinning (or better, fluttering??), Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 23:31:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09126 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09090 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25857 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10zSsU-000ECb-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:30:50 +0000 Message-ID: <3q1AUDB0ope3EwBk@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:29:08 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Ultim8 Committee Subject: Re: Tour format References: <001e01bec2db$91845db0$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <001e01bec2db$91845db0$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Michael Beaton writes >Is there a document around with the tour formats for each of the five tours >on it? > >Mike >(Sharks/ex.LT) yep, http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour99/ and follow the links through RULES to PART 6 - Tournament Formats alternatively download the Word97 document: http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour99/u899.doc this is the stuff that was circulated to team contacts pre-Tour for ease of reference, here's the text: 6. Tournament Formats. A. Comments For each event, teams are seeded according to the system described in Section [7]. It is expected that 24 teams enter each event, although the systems are readily altered to 20, 28, or 32 teams. Every effort will be made to avoid other (more difficult) numbers of teams. The descriptions below are necessarily brief, and assume a reasonable understanding of tournament formats. The details cannot be absolutely fixed as they always depend on final numbers. Often the description of what happens to teams seeded beyond 12th or 16th is deliberately vague so as to allow us to use the most appropriate system depending on the situation. The formats described below for Tour III and Tour IV may be swapped over. B. Details Tour I. An open format that (in theory) allows any team to finish in any position. (Note that this is different from 1997, and is based on questionnaire replies.) Tour II. The top 8 are in 2 pools of 4 with the top 2 in each progressing to semi-finals on Sunday; and the bottom 2 in each pool dropping to the "middle knockout 8" (5th-12th positions). Teams from 9th down are ideally in 4 pools with the winner of each moving up into the "middle knockout 8", and the other teams all playing off for 13th downwards. Tour III. All teams are initially in groups of 8 that are further divided into 2 pools of 4. The top 4 carry on as normal; but the 5-12 group are in 2 pools of 4 with a single playoff game to finish. This requires some Saturday results to be carried forward to Sunday. Teams below 12th on Sunday playoff for positions using a more straightforward (probably knockout) format. Tour IV. The top 16 start in 4 pools of 4 [A-D]. The winner of each [A1-D1] progress to semis. Teams in 2nd and 3rd, [A2, B2, ..., D3] go into a middle 8 comprising 2 pools of 4 for 5th-12th positions. As usual this also means carrying a result from Saturday. The bottom teams [A4-D4] join those teams starting below 16th to playoff for positions 13th downwards. Tour V. The same format as that described for Tour III. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter U8C statistician, U8C website manager u8c@egroups.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 30 23:31:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09109 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09092 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25859 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:30:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10zSsU-000ECd-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:30:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 22:56:24 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Southampton, split sites... References: <00ae01bec25d$3ff63640$708893c3@cow> In-Reply-To: <00ae01bec25d$3ff63640$708893c3@cow> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Iain Roberts writes >could people please comment on how the split site worked (if at >all!) - I believe it was the first split site tour tournament. Except, of course, Sheffield - depending on whether "over the road" can really be called "split site". Seemed to work, from the Druids' perspective - most games when we were over in Wide Lane seemed to start and finish roughly on time... There could have been a _potential_ problem with the three-way tie that nearly occurred in the SOUP, BAF, Druids, Nightfever Sunday pool, but the rules being on paper, and SOUP defeating BAF soon put paid to that. >Did this work or did it add >fuel to the "having two divisions" fire, Most teams seemed to end up over there at some point or other. I hadn't really realised/noticed that we'd been "relegated" to the "second site" along with the second division, so can't complain retrospectively. It may seem a little late (and therefore lame), but Druids would also like to offer their thanks to Iain and his team for the excellently run tournament. Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 09:16:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19645 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:15:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19634 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:15:38 +0100 (BST) From: Allan.Masson@pearsoned-ema.com Received: from mimesweeper.awl.co.uk (mimesweeper.awl.co.uk [194.200.102.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15326 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:15:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailserver.pearsoned-ema.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.awl.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 09:01:40 +0100 Received: from ccMail by mailserver.pearsoned-ema.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 00017329; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:15:31 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:20:23 +0000 Message-Id: <00017329.eval@pearsoned-ema.com> Subject: Re[2]: The Greatest To: Stephen Young , "Rob Mitchell", Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Presumably the Ultimate Greatest would be for the first player to intercept the disk out of bounds, whilst airborne, and then to pass the disk player to player, whilst airborne, down the outside of the sideline until the sixth player throws the disk into the endzone, whilst airborne, so that the seventh player can perform a majestic layout, catch the disk, take a one point lead a microsecond before the hooter sounds in the final of the world club championships. P/S: It must also be televised live, and transmitted to the entire populace of the world; with the exception of Lichtenstein. _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: The Greatest From: Stephen Young at INTERNET Date: 30.06.1999 12:57 Uhr Sorry, damn, unclear. You have to add "to another player on your team" as below. >In the U.S. (not to be overly obnoxious, but where most of the terminology >comes from), you have the "Play" and you have the "Greatest". The Play is >simply the act of throwing a disc back in bounds to another player on your team >while in the air out of bounds. The Greatest is the Play for a score. So, you can't, as above, do >the Greatest for a score. That is redundant. > ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 09:31:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22030 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:30:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22020 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:30:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16480 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:30:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10zcEv-000KGu-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:30:37 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:18:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Southampton, split sites... + situation for TourV Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:18:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I thought the split site was fine. I was pleased to see all the top teams being sent over there - but would add that it was an enormous shock to our system on Saturday morning. My only comment would be that captain's meeting finished too late given the distance to the other site, and that a map would have really helped!! When I whinged about these things to Jack (thats my wife if you don't know - she plays for Twin Peaks) she pointed out (in her own colourful language) that this sort of thing often happens to the lower ranked teams and that I might want to shut up. But I can imagine plenty of really good reasons why the capts meeting wasn't earlier than 9, and why it started late, and why nobody had had time to draw a map. So I'm definitely not interested in complaining! I love the Southampton tourney - and I love the cricket scoreboard. I could never tire of that particular gag. See you all in Exeter for the showdown... >From brief calculation: (maybe some Stattos could check this out...) If UTI win -> UTI win the tour. If Catch win -> Catch win the tour. If Chev win (with Catch beating UTI in 3rd place playoff) -> Chev win the tour. Given that Catch and UTI cannot meet in semis, and also that Dough Boy have already been in one final this is certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. I haven't checked out where any of the other teams could finish - I am assuming that nobody else can win. I haven't looked - but I wouldn't be suprised if DoughBoy could still finish in the top 3. There must be quite a few other 3-4 team battles going on further down the rankings. Does anyone have time to give some details? I think it would be quite interesting. Si - 22 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 10:48:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11398 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:47:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11389 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:47:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd79.hotmail.com [207.82.252.143]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15414 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:47:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 85428 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 1999 09:46:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990701094639.85427.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.122.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:46:39 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.122.196] From: Jester Bit To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: For Chevy's Harry G Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 02:46:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry everone else etc. Harry Golby (or is it Goldby?) could you please get in touch? I have a contact for an old mate of yours to pass on. If you know Harry and he's not on BD can you pass this on? Cheers. Cheers Jes* ps, a gag for your efforts: Bloke gets invited by a mate to a fancy dress party and turns up naked with a naked woman on his back. "It's supposed to be fancy dress," says his mate on opening the door. "This is fancy dress," replies the bloke. "I'm a snail." "Well what's with the naked women then?" asks his mate. "That's not a naked womwn, that's Michelle." (If you didn't like it, just remember, don't shoot the messenger;) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 10:58:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13285 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:57:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13275 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:57:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from drawbridge.ascend.com (drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16026 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:57:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from fw-ext.ascend.com (fw-ext [198.4.92.5]) by drawbridge.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA17624; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from russet.ascend.com by fw-ext.ascend.com via smtpd (for drawbridge.ascend.com [198.4.92.1]) with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 09:57:32 UT Received: from wopr.eng.ascend.com (wopr.eng.ascend.com [206.65.212.178]) by russet.ascend.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13882; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awilson-x86.eng.ascend.com (awilson-x86.eng.ascend.com [192.168.91.230]) by wopr.eng.ascend.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA19318; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ascend.com (localhost.ascend.com [127.0.0.1]) by awilson-x86.eng.ascend.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27704; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:57:17 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <377B3B7D.372DB86A@ascend.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 10:57:17 +0100 From: Andrew Wilson Organization: Lucent Technologies InterNetworking Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 i86pc) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jester Bit CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: For Chevy's Harry G References: <19990701094639.85427.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > (If you didn't like it, just remember, don't shoot the messenger;) > Unless the messenger happens to be Jester of course :-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 11:05:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14959 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:05:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14950 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:05:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26368 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:05:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 10zdiR-0006xC-00; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:05:12 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA930823567; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:06:09 GMT Message-Id: <9907019308.AA930823567@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:04:06 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: , Subject: RE: For Chevy's Harry G MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk done > >Sorry everone else etc. > >Harry Golby (or is it Goldby?) could you please get in touch? I have a >contact for an old mate of yours to pass on. > >If you know Harry and he's not on BD can you pass this on? Cheers. > >Cheers >Jes* > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 11:28:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19107 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:26:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19101 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:26:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd89.hotmail.com [207.82.252.153]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17783 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:26:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 88769 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 1999 10:26:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990701102614.88768.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.122.196 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Jul 1999 03:26:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.122.196] From: Jester Bit To: awilson@ascend.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: For Chevy's Harry G Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 03:26:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: Andrew Wilson > > (If you didn't like it, just remember, don't shoot the messenger;) > > > >Unless the messenger happens to be Jester of course :-) Yeah, shoot the messenger, hang the DJ, assasinate the state. In a box of assorted biscuits, which ones can fly? The plain ones. You. Asked. For. It. !. Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 13:30:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13549 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:28:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13534 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:28:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA12837 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:28:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1500 invoked from network); 1 Jul 1999 12:28:43 -0000 Received: from userl638.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.75.197) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 1999 12:28:43 -0000 Message-ID: <002801bec3b0$75baf640$c54b95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Cc: References: <01BEB789.0E62A160@KEVIN> Subject: Junior Outdoors Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:56:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I am looking to take my team (Sunz) to the Junior outdoors, but it looks as if we will only be able to muster a squad of at most 7 players. We would really like to go to this event, but if we cannot get a decent sized squad we may struggle. If any junior players don't have a team or their team is not able to make it, but they are still interested in playing, then they can pickup with us. If you know of any juniors not on E-mail please pass this message on. cheers, Matt Lowe. Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 14:16:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22936 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:14:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22922 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:14:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26337 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:14:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA08967 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:14:46 +0100 (BST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:14:43 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127014FE5FA@RMExchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: Andy Cotgreave To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: calling SOUP Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:14:42 +0100 Organization: RM plc X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Can Stu Mullinger, or a team contact for SOUP get in touch with me please. Thanks Andy ========== RM plc acotgreave@rmplc.net tel: 01235 823254 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 1 18:40:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14994 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:37:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14965 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:37:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13412 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:36:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-033.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.33]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA20726 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:34:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000501bec3e8$8a74ec20$21a492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: New Londoner seeking team Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:04:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please reply to Leo (loskolos@hotmail.com) not to the BUF. -----Original Message----- From: Leo Kipowski To: BUF Date: 01 July 1999 15:21 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry >You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >Name: Leo Kipowski >Address1: 170 Marlboroughroad >Address2: >Post Code: N19 4NP >Telephone: 0171-6865263 >Fax: >Message: Hello! >I just came to London, and I'm wondering if there >is any ultimate teams in London or the nearest >club or known group that plays. >Anyway, if you could send me some information >about any local club or some I can contact, >I would be very happy. > >Thank you > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 2 13:27:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18228 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:26:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18185 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:26:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28642 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:26:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA27891; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:26:21 +0100 (BST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:26:18 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127014FE618@RMExchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: Andy Cotgreave To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" , "'EuroDisc@ira.uka.de'" Subject: WUCC pricing scandal!!! Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:26:06 +0100 Organization: RM plc X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following is a copy of a letter sent to Charlie Mead, TD of WUCC99 Dear Charlie, RE: Merchandise commission charges at WUCC '99 We are writing to complain about the commission charged to sell merchandise at WUCC '99. We feel that a 25% commission charge is excessive, and against the ethos of the tournament and the sport. Merchandising is a fundamental and enjoyable aspect of the Worlds. It is a chance for teams to partly fund their way to the Worlds. It is also a chance for everyone to take souvenirs home. This aspect of the tournament is not one where players want to charge huge prices for their wares; it simply isn't fair on the participants. However, with such high commission rates, teams only have two "legal" options: 1. Keep the prices down, thus removing any chance of securing a return on their investment of time and energy into the design and printing of the merchandise. 2. Inflate the prices they will be selling their merchandise at, in order to justify this time investment. Either one of these options is a no-win situation for the players, but an apparent win situation for the tournament coffers. With the situation as it is, teams are deciding either to not make any merchandise at all, or to sell it to on the pitch sidelines: both are situations that the WFDF should not endorse, or be seen to be the direct cause of. We would like to request a reduction of the commission fee to a level that is fairer and more realistic. One that will not alienate the players from the tournament organisers, and one that will encourage people to use the merchandise tent. We feel that a reduction in the rate to 10% is acceptable. If a reduction is not possible, could you please provide us with a justification of this commission rate? Yours sincerely, Andy Cotgreave acotgreave@rmplc.net Chevron Action Flash Tara Jewell 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Bliss Simon Hill simon.hill@actix.com Catch 22 Vanessa White nessa_white@hotmail.com 4 Non Blondes Karl Mann KMann@pmsi.co.uk Druids Dave Trovell david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk U.T.I James Hewitson james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk Blue Arse Flies Helen Myers helen.myers@deloitte.co.uk Twin Peaks David Grayson david@mcg.gla.ac.uk Soup Richard Clegg richard.clegg@company-net.co.uk Gael Force From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 3 02:12:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16514 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:11:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA16509 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:11:43 +0100 (BST) From: Monkeyboy9@postmaster.co.uk Received: from nun.postmaster.co.uk (nun.postmaster.co.uk [212.57.32.111] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA08936 for ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:11:43 +0100 (BST) Received: by nun.postmaster.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 802567A3.0007BA12 ; Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:24:23 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: POSTMASTER To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <802567A3.0007B883.00@nun.postmaster.co.uk> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:06:00 +0100 Subject: any players brighton? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am at home in brighton over the summer, and i was wondering whether there was anyfing happening dan ere? wassup? monkey From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 4 17:59:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11922 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:57:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11912 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:57:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17561 for ; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:57:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from ojc21 (helo=localhost) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #3) id 110pa5-0006AU-00; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:57:29 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:57:29 +0100 (BST) From: "O.J. Cottray" X-Sender: ojc21@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk To: british ultimate mailing list cc: Katrin Bennhold Subject: london ultimate? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello BD- a friend of mine would be interested in joining some ultimate practice in london- her name is katrin and her email, as above; katrinbennhold@hotmail.com could someone let her know the when's, where's and how's? cheewoz- olivier From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 07:48:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27172 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27166 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04500 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA08224 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199907050647.HAA08224@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 31st July 1999 WUCC 99 Tune up tournament (2 days) @ Trent Park, London [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Colin Wagstaff Comment By Invitation Only Email Colin.Wagstaff@EULERGroup.com Phone 0181 360 8816 (home) 0171 860 2630 (work) Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 10:58:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18550 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:57:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18534 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:57:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02438 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 10:57:06 +0100 (BST) Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <3CVYG0P0>; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F586B@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: "'vicci@hotmail.com'" Subject: Calling Vicci Jefferies Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 11:07:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Vicci, If you're on britdisc, or still using hotmail, can you mail me back asap. Failing that, does anybody have a contact phone number for Vicci Jefferies? Thanks, Scuttler Sneeeky's / Gael Force From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 13:57:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13278 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:56:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13267 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:56:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09621 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:56:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-91.atenolol.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.54.91] helo=big-easy) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1118Id-0001uP-00; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:56:44 +0100 Message-ID: <003d01bec6e5$d73c8270$5b36883e@big-easy> From: "Paul Meaney" To: "Iain Roberts" Cc: Subject: Tour IV lost property Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:56:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01BEC6EE.382F90B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BEC6EE.382F90B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies for the cross post, but I'm just a wee bit concerned. anybody know who is responsible for Tour IV lost property? 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       =20 anybody know who is responsible for Tour IV lost property? More = specifically, if=20 a pair of white addidas hockey boots in a white Sainsburys bag were = found just=20 by the bar-b-q pit above pitch 1? I kind of need to know otherwise I'll = be=20 shoeless for tour V.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BEC6EE.382F90B0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 14:48:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20420 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:48:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20414 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:48:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12109 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:48:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11196F-000PHF-0K; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 13:48:01 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <3DZRK8D2>; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:07:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF456A@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Paul Meaney'" , Iain Roberts Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour IV lost property Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 14:07:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA20416 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know the Tour 3 lost property was at Tour 4 and i delved in the bags that Paul kindly brought along but could not find a number of items. The only of real value were a pair of Vans size 8, grey, suede, white laces. Did anyone pick these up from besides the final pitch accidentally? If you did what were you doing there, it was pissing it down. Forever grateful if they could be returned. Thanks, Colin. > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Meaney [SMTP:paul@sneeekys30.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 1:57 PM > To: Iain Roberts > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Tour IV lost property > >     Apologies for the cross post, but I'm just a wee bit concerned. >   >         anybody know who is responsible for Tour IV lost property? More > specifically, if a pair of white addidas hockey boots in a white > Sainsburys bag were found just by the bar-b-q pit above pitch 1? I kind of > need to know otherwise I'll be shoeless for tour V. >   >         Paul > >   > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 16:38:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09695 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:37:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09686 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:37:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16908 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:37:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:36:56 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:36:43 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED4CC@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Paul Meaney'" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour IV lost property Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:36:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA09689 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For the stupid amongst you - esp. Paul Meeany, I have ALL the lost property from all the tours so far (that wasn't in the job description as DoC), so if any of you have been so foolish as to lose anything at a tour you will need to see me before the BBQ on Saturday night at tour v, where upon the smell of mouldy, sweaty, burning, kit in the air will tell you that it is too late and that the sacrificial bonfire has been lit. Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Paul Meaney[SMTP:paul@sneeekys30.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 05 July 1999 13:56 > To: Iain Roberts > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Tour IV lost property > >     Apologies for the cross post, but I'm just a wee bit concerned. >   >         anybody know who is responsible for Tour IV lost property? More > specifically, if a pair of white addidas hockey boots in a white > Sainsburys bag were found just by the bar-b-q pit above pitch 1? I kind of > need to know otherwise I'll be shoeless for tour V. >   >         Paul > >   > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 20:06:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04673 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:05:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04666 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:05:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24315 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:05:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-008.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.8]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA03972; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:02:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003001bec719$ae803460$08a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" , "LEICESTER ULTIMATE LISTBOT" Cc: , "Neil Flint" , , , , , "hybrid" , "Mark Laywood" , Subject: 1999 Leicester Ultimate League Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:05:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lazy summer evenings on the park with a Frisbee? Jumpers for endzones? Its an enduring image! The 3rd Leicester Ultimate League starts on Tuesday 13th July at 7:30pm on Nelson Mandela Park in Leicester city centre and will run for four weeks. The league is open to players of all experience levels but we are particularly keen to invite first-time players to attend so BRING YOUR FRIENDS!. The fee for the whole event is £10 which you can pay on the day. There will be a prize for the winning team. Players must bring two t-shirts, one light, one dark for team selection If you are interested please reply to this email or phone Ben on 0116 2559638 / 0403 460866. Map and directions available on request. Catch you later The RED team. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 5 23:14:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19647 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:13:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19641 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:13:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28124 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:13:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 111GzO-000GeD-0K; Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:13:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 23:01:57 +0100 To: BritDisc , EuroDisc Cc: ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk From: Ross99 Subject: Ross on Wye Tournament 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK, you've asked for it, (some teams ARE actually willing to mail blank cheques!), so here it is: Fluid Druids cordially invite you to the 1999 edition of the Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament Dates: 24 + 25 July 1999 Venue: Ross Sports Centre, Ross on Wye, Herefordshire, England Cost: GBP 100.00 Accommodation - Bring your own (i.e. camping) or arrange yourselves a Bed + Breakfast. Note: Invitations are only being issued electronically, by means of this message - no individual emails, no phone calls, no postage... How to enter: Unless your team name appears on the following list* [*pay on arrival: Fluid Druids; Feral; Les Vieux Invalides; Pookas;] you should mail a a cheque of value GBP 100.00, payable to WAYNE RETTER, to the following address: Fluid Druids c/o Neil Travers 8 Cross Road Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 2UQ (Note: cheques/details received at other addresses will be ignored!) and include the following details: Team Name: Contact Name: Contact Address: Home PhoneNo: Home Email: Work PhoneNo: Work Email: Work Fax: After the teams listed above, and some guaranteed spaces [Bradford; Rejects; Four Non Blondes], the first 17 cheques received (i.e. a total of 24 teams) will succeed in entry to the tournament. Without payment, your entry is not acceptable! Neil Travers will keep you on track in respect of when he receives your payment, and where to find information about the tournament. If at any point, you find it necessary to WITHDRAW from the tournament, contact Neil *immediately* you know, so that we can arrange a standby team. If we can't arrange a standby - you'll lose your money! If you have any further queries, email the following address: ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk Don't necessarily expect same day replies. (messages to other addresses, especially @phidelta.demon.co.uk, will likely be ignored as I'll be on holiday!) Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter on behalf of the Fluid Druids Ultimate Club hosts of the Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 6 00:43:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15204 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:41:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15199 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:41:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f184.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.184]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA00119 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 00:41:26 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 58932 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 1999 23:40:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990705234054.58931.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.146.164.48 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:40:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.146.164.48] From: Payout Dreams To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ross-on-Why? Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 00:40:52 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For your inconvenience and discomfort there is no camping, showers or pitches at this year's Ross-on-Why? tournament. If you want to bring turf then please let us know in advance as landfill space is extremely limited. Health and safety officials have informed us that cyanobacteria levels in the River Why are now only 10 times European safety limits so there is nothing to worry about. Pay-out Dreams (tm) reserve the right to forge currency, receive stolen goods and house illegal immigrants. Your statutory rights may be affected at the organisers discretion. Remember: the price of fleece can go up as well as down. Please do no offend the organisers with cheques, postal orders or other unreliable forms of payment. Always hide the small print. Your wallet is at risk if you succeed in keeping up with payments. Do not pass "GO" - do not collect £200. NEVER read the label. "Oh go on then - count me in!!!!" -----Original Message----- From: Ross99 To: BritDisc ; EuroDisc Cc: ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk Date: 05 July 1999 23:17 Subject: Ross on Wye Tournament 1999 >OK, you've asked for it, (some teams ARE actually willing to mail blank >cheques!), so here it is: > >Fluid Druids cordially invite you to the 1999 edition of the > Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament > >Dates: 24 + 25 July 1999 >Venue: Ross Sports Centre, Ross on Wye, Herefordshire, England >Cost: GBP 100.00 > >Accommodation - Bring your own (i.e. camping) or arrange yourselves a >Bed + Breakfast. > >Note: >Invitations are only being issued electronically, by means of this >message - no individual emails, no phone calls, no postage... > >How to enter: > >Unless your team name appears on the following list* > >[*pay on arrival: Fluid Druids; Feral; Les Vieux Invalides; Pookas;] > >you should mail a a cheque of value GBP 100.00, >payable to WAYNE RETTER, >to the following address: > Fluid Druids > c/o Neil Travers > 8 Cross Road > Uxbridge > Middlesex > UB8 2UQ > >(Note: cheques/details received at other addresses will be ignored!) > >and include the following details: >Team Name: >Contact Name: >Contact Address: >Home PhoneNo: >Home Email: >Work PhoneNo: >Work Email: >Work Fax: > >After the teams listed above, and some guaranteed spaces [Bradford; >Rejects; Four Non Blondes], the first 17 cheques received (i.e. a total >of 24 teams) will succeed in entry to the tournament. Without payment, >your entry is not acceptable! > >Neil Travers will keep you on track in respect of when he receives your >payment, and where to find information about the tournament. > >If at any point, you find it necessary to WITHDRAW from the tournament, >contact Neil *immediately* you know, so that we can arrange a standby >team. If we can't arrange a standby - you'll lose your money! > >If you have any further queries, email the following address: > ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk >Don't necessarily expect same day replies. > >(messages to other addresses, especially @phidelta.demon.co.uk, will >likely be ignored as I'll be on holiday!) > >Wayne > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Wayne Retter >on behalf of the Fluid Druids Ultimate Club >hosts of the Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 6 10:13:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18478 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:12:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18471 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:12:09 +0100 (BST) From: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Received: from smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk [62.172.72.68]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14113 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:12:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccMail by smtpmail.watsonwyatt.co.uk (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 00075C7F; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:09:10 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:09:21 +0000 Message-ID: <00075C7F.C21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Subject: Re: Ross-on-Why? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm going to rise to the bait... Subject: Ross-on-Why? Author: Payout Dreams >For your inconvenience and discomfort there is no camping, showers or pitches >at this year's Ross-on-Why? tournament... Fluid Druids and Layout Dreams are SEPERATE entities. Layout Dreams (Chris and I) attempt to run quality tournaments (as requested by the Ultimate playesr of this country) and, in so doing, make some money to fund our playing expenses. Abuse Chris and I as much as you like [ and be prepared to get as you give :) ], but PLEASE, don't mix the Layout Dreams and Fluid Druid organisations together, even in fun. Fluid Druids (admittedly, mostly Chris and I over the last few years) have run the Ross on Wye tournament because it is an insitution on the BUF calendar. Yes, in the past the Druids as a club have made some money out of the tournament (that helped with covering BUF subs, tourney fees, training pitch hire, kit costs, sponsoring the Juniors, etc...) Sometimes, I'm not entirely sure why the Druids run Ross - the tournament venue is comparatively horrible [pitches, showers, toilets], the owners become more uncooperative each year [they might not even let us have access to the showers and toilets that are on site this year], and costs are escalating wildly [we'll have to arrange/hire replacements] And then we have to regularly turn teams away because we're oversubscribed! [Even at the extortionate 1998 price of GBP 112.00] Bottom line - if you don't want to come, don't [Red don't attend Druid's tournaments on principle...] If you boycott a tournament for being too expensive, it'll either get less expensive, or not happen in future. If you think people want to do something different/cheaper, organise it - even on the same weekend. Wayne Retter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 6 10:35:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22388 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:34:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22378 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:34:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15825 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:34:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:34:05 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA05770; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:33:45 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Ross-on-Why? In-Reply-To: <00075C7F.C21337@watsonwyatt.co.uk> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:30:51 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:09:21 +0000 Wayne_Retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk wrote: > If you think people want to do something > different/cheaper, organise it - even on the same weekend. Cue... British Disc Golf Open, Whitcombe farm, Dorsett, 24/25 July. Rafi (ex DoC BDGA) PS Cheque's in the post Wayne! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 6 10:55:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25175 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25167 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:15 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02304 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:29 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:12 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586CA8@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ross Alternatives Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:54:09 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586CA8@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEC795.7EA9425E" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEC795.7EA9425E Content-Type: text/plain Hi Guys Never to be outdone by the golfers, I too have an exciting addition to the disc sport calendar. Not yet confirmed, your responses will make or break the prospective Not The Worlds (to be known from here on in as NTW). There are many advantages of NTW over Ross - guarenteed toilets and showers, central location (Warwick) party venue, on-site beds, and of course, we do not expect any team, no matter how willing, to open up their arteries for the chance to compete - there will be a modest entry fee only. We also offer many advantages over the Worlds (see above) and additionally will not bleed your merchandising profits like a mafia extortion racket. so, NTW, the basic info (TBC): University of Warwick, August 14 & 15. To encourage the organisation of cheap events reply to this email. Failure to reply repeals your rights as an Ultimate player to complain about our very own Kray brothers who are, after all, only providing a service..... (Worlds attendees are obviously exempt from this clause). 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If so, can I have it back please? It was rather expensive, and I had grown rather attached to it. Or if anyone happened to pick it up by mistake, can you drop me a mail, please, and give it back? Cheers, Starky, Captain, Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 7 11:12:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28857 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28851 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:11:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15846 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:11:17 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA04285 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:29:52 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.252.154) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma004267; Wed, 7 Jul 99 09:28:54 +0100 Received: by kevinl133 with Microsoft Mail id <01BEC85B.40BD9CE0@kevinl133>; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:29:46 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEC85B.40BD9CE0@kevinl133> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Last call for Exeter Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:29:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA28852 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WE now have 32 teams entered, but only 21 paid up. The deadline is July 10th (this Saturday), so please get the cheques in the post. Also, Dough Boy, Jedi and Uriel (Oops), you need to get your £15 BUF cheque to Dora. Kevin & Jennie. Tournament fees received (or arranged). Uriel Strange Blue Bliss Whiplash Twin Peaks Skunks Chevron Action Flash Druids Gael Force Nightfever Albatross Headrush Blue Arse Flies 1 Blue Arse Flies 2 First Touch UTI Mohawk Mwnci Magic Catch 22 SOUP Wyld Stallions Kniggets/aka Bruce Lee Dragons 4 Non Blondes Jedi Dough Boy Waiting for...(the clock's running!) Superfly Phat Eds Red I Red II Slipdisc MMJ Sharks Overflow From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 7 13:42:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21482 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:42:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21475 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:41:59 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:43:52 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk (by way of Dave Neilson) Subject: ...please Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc Subject: Help please Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 10:34:00 +0100 The Meres leisure Centre in Grantham has been so impressed with Ultimate that it is now included it in its programme of events for the summer. This is what The Leisure Centre has planned: 1. Staff training for 36 members of staff on Saturday 24th July 6.30 - 8.30 They want all the leisure centre staff able to help in running the programme. Therefore they all need to understand the game, to the extent that they can help teach youngsters. 2. Initial taster sessions for youngsters and adults. running from the beginning of August. 3. Courses running on Monday and Wednesday evenings Following on from the taster evenings running through to September at least. There is one major problem AND THIS IS WHY I NEED HELP. I am the only Ultimate player in Grantham, and I am getting married when the programme is scheduled to start. Shite timing! So that means I will not be able to lead the coaching for the first 3 weeks from the 24th July. Is there anyone out there in Britdisc world who could initiate the training of 30+ leisure centre staff in the game? Obviously if we can get them buzzing it could really take off. If this works we (Meres Management and me) hope that this model can be employed in other Circa Leisure sites around the country. I want to see this work, but need your help so if you think you can help in any way please reply. thanks pu red superfly From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 7 18:49:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03071 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:47:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03065 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24174 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from jimson.demon.co.uk ([212.228.22.128]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 111vmt-000IVM-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:47:16 +0000 X-Sender: jimson@pop3.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:50:42 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jim McDonnell Subject: Anyone for pickups?.. Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Fresh from our 30th place triumph at Southampton, does anyone out there want a couple of pickup players for Exeter? We can offer - stiff joints, a very low top running speed (0 - 20 in 'no, sorry, I'm out of breath already'), dubious disc skills - throwing *and* catching - at best, and we're a guranteed distraction to the opposition who are never sure whether to mark us or just to cut out the middleman and call an ambulance early on. An attractive proposition for any team, I'm sure you'll agree. We expect demand to be fierce, so snap us up soon. Will bring own food and beer. Call me on 0181 444 6371 or email here - it's checked every day. - Jim 'Don't wake him, he looks so peaceful' McDonnell - Phil 'Watch it - that frisbee nearly knocked the fag out of my mouth' Cain (ex-Village, lately Hurricane) 'When you swim in the creek And an eel bites your cheek - That's a moray...' From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 8 09:54:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20145 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:53:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20132 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:53:26 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22706 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:39:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA31011 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:38:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA15762 for ; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:40:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id IAA54904 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:38:45 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:38:41 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <"l03130300b3a941ca49af(a)(091)212.228.22.128(093)*"@MHS> Subject: Re: Anyone for pickups?.. MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Another person looking to Pick up at Exeter Standard is as per the previous wire, ex-lurker, ex-village, ex-etc. thanks Cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 10 10:46:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09517 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:45:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09489 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:45:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03568 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:45:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from dreamer.demon.co.uk ([158.152.82.103]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 112thA-000Iv5-0C; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:45:20 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:44:26 +0100 To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk, james.hewitson@zurich.co.uk, richard.clegg@company-net.co.uk From: Neil Travers Subject: Re: Ross on Wye Tournament 1999 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne writes: > Fluid Druids > c/o Neil Travers > 8 Cross Road > Uxbridge NO, NO, NO!!! It's 5 Cross Road !! Right, I have so far (Sat am) received no cheques to my flat. I checked at the nearest No. 8 (there is no 8 Cross Road) and they've not received anything for me (although should now pass anything on). I have no idea what the post office will do faced with a non existent address - return them, bin them, take 2 weeks to match the name to a real address... whatever. You may want to cancel the cheque and resend it. Teams that have already sent cheques to the incorrect address should email me at mailto:ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk so I can let them know if I do receive the cheque or to let me know if you are cancelling a cheque. If you want to ring me - 01895-270153 (home). So the full correct address is: Neil Travers 5 Cross Road Uxbridge UB8 2UQ Many apologies for Wayne's incompetence and that I didn't find out about the mistake until now. -- Neil Travers ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 11 09:45:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26770 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:44:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26764 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:44:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14051 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:44:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from cloe.demon.co.uk ([194.222.139.162]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 113FDi-000C3i-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:44:23 +0000 Message-ID: <4iozgAAmkFi3EwgC@cloe.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 09:43:18 +0100 To: "'BritDisc'" From: David Whitehead Subject: Re: RULE QUESTION In-Reply-To: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E09470D1E19@letterbox.kscl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.04 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This question about a turnover after a defensive catch reminded me of a post by Jim Parinella some years ago on rec.sport.disc. Here's a copy of it which I took from his "Testosterone Page" (which I highly recommend, both for the educational value and the humour.) ----------- From: parinell@athena.mit.edu (James C Parinella) Subject: Re: Double Turnover or not? Date: 5Dec 1994 21:00:48 GMT In article bg572@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Glenn A. Ford) writes: > > > After having read most of the near-endless debate > about the Defensive Greatest, I have a question about a play > I saw at No Borders this past summer. Team A, on offense, > is moving the disc upfield when a defensive player from Team > B intercepts a pass INBOUNDS and his momentum carries him > OB. In an adrenaline rush, he throws the disc down, punches > the air once or twice and then picks up the disc and walks > it back to the line so that his team can go on O. Team A > then says that its another turnover because he dropped the > disc. Whaddya you think? > Glenn. Double turnover. As I'm sure a lot of you will be glad to know, this happened to me this summer during the wonderful Hingham tournament. The Tea Party was cruising through their games per usual and were playing Static Cling in a pool play game. We had asked some of the Static Cling players to play with us that tournament, but they begged off for various reasons, so we were excited to play them. We had also instituted a "penalty box" for our team. If you made a turnover, you went into the box until somebody else made a turnover and freed you, but with the exception that only one player per point could come out of the box. So if you have a couple hell points, your box could get pretty full and there would be some serious ro-cham-get-out-of-the- boxing. Fortunately for us, we were playing our typical near flawless game so the box was almost empty. Anyway, I'm covering my good friend Ben Adner (of Adner line fame), and I set it up perfectly to cut in front of him for the interception. As the pass is almost in my hands, I start chuckling, even giggling a little bit, as I think how good I am. I have to bend down a little bit, though, and the fields are uneven besides, so I'm off balance as I catch it. A step and a half later, the disc pops out of my hands. A few astute observers on BOTH teams start screaming, "Turnover," at this point. Now my mind is at full tilt, trying to dig up some obscure rule so I can keep the disc in my possession and myself out of the box. But the only thing that kept popping in my head was "Sustained contact with a non-spinning disc". I knew I was beat. Don't misunderstand me here, I certainly tried to argue my point, appealing to fairness and SOTG and I never really had it anyway, but both teams shouted me down and I was relegated to the box. Luckily for me, though, I had Alex the Count on my team, so I was soon on the field again. It should be a turnover, though. Jim "How the hell do you put that in the stat books?" Parinella From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 12 07:48:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA06485 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06480 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05627 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA20642 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199907120647.HAA20642@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 17th July 1999 Tour V (2 days) @ Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 31st July 1999 WUCC 99 Tune up tournament (2 days) @ Trent Park, London [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Colin Wagstaff Comment By Invitation Only Email Colin.Wagstaff@EULERGroup.com Phone 0181 360 8816 (home) 0171 860 2630 (work) Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 12 18:20:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07140 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:18:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07135 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:18:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04055 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:18:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from dreamer.demon.co.uk ([158.152.82.103]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 113jiP-000Pog-0A for britdisc@warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:18:07 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:17:14 +0100 To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk From: Neil Travers Subject: Re: Ross on Wye Tournament 1999 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have today received a bundle of letters which were originally sent to the incorrect address. So it looks like the post office did work out who it should be for. I'll sort out who has sent me a cheque and send out a separate email. Anyone who has resent their cheque let me know so I can give Wayne the right one (Helen, I got your messages). -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 12 20:21:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21248 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:20:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21240 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:20:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10357 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:20:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 27746 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1999 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from userai69.uk.uudial.com (HELO dial.pipex.com) (62.188.133.99) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 1999 19:20:14 -0000 Message-ID: <37879CC3.89F770D5@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:19:32 +0100 From: Richard Robert Hims X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BRITDISC Subject: Going down to Exeter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As the subject line implies, I am once again looking for a lift. Any offers of a lift, going down from North London mid to late Friday evening or even Saturday morning for anyone fond of early morning long drives, would be much appreciated. Standard incentives of a chip in on the petrol money, appalling sense of humour, wide range of conversational topics and bad taste in music apply. Thanx in advance, -- Rich, Janitors richard.hims@dial.pipex.com vik.hims@cwcom.net vik-rich@iname.com rich-vik@iname.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 12 20:50:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA24195 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:49:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24189 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:49:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15584 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:49:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from jimson.demon.co.uk ([212.228.22.128]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 113m5D-00027n-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:49:48 +0000 X-Sender: jimson@pop3.demon.co.uk (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:52:46 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jim McDonnell Subject: Lift to Exeter offered... Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Self explanatory really. Even though we've been cruelly snubbed on the 'does anyone need a pickup?' front, perhaps we can wheedle our way into a team's affections by driving some of you down there. So - space in a car for 2 people; polite company and erudite conversation offered in return for a share of the petrol (it's a Volvo so frugal isn't a word that springs to the lips - ergo about £10 each, each way) If you want a lift and you can be at The Spires shopping centre, High Barnet by 4pm Friday, mail me or Phil Cain at phil@mooseboy.demon.co.uk We'll be travelling A406-M4-M5 so we could (I imaginge - I'm not the driver) pick up en route if necessary. - Jim McDonnell From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 13 09:13:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16325 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:12:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16320 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:12:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02567 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:12:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA04952 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:12:24 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.248.6) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma004942; Tue, 13 Jul 99 09:11:56 +0100 Received: by kevinl133 with Microsoft Mail id <01BECD0F.EA338100@kevinl133>; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:13:05 +0100 Message-ID: <01BECD0F.EA338100@kevinl133> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour V details Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:13:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA16321 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Anyone that asked for B&B details (all two of you) will get them tomorrow either in the post, or failing that, I'll email some phone numbers of local B&Bs. All details are now available at http://x-stream.fortunecity.com/coderscl/155/ I'll try and get some better maps up there as well. Please don't take the seedings as Gospel. They will change once Chris works them out. Please don't ask when your first game is. The schedule is still being worked on. Assume that your first game is at 9:30 (Captain's meeting at 9:00). We have 30 teams entered. Kniggets - I am assuming that you are not coming since you haven't sent a cheque nor bothered to get in touch. 32 teams would have been nice, but oh well. Kevin & Jennie. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 13 11:01:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00545 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:00:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00537 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:00:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15045 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:00:43 +0100 (BST) From: J.M.Gaiger@open.ac.uk Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:00:41 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:00:39 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED27045C91E1@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ross Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:00:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Is anyone looking for stray players for Ross on Why ? And anyone who could give me a ride to Ross from the South West? Plenty of heart and experience, almost fit for the Masters. Thanks Honza, Prague Faculty of Arts The Open University Walton Hall Milton Keynes MK7 6AA (01908 652479) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 13 15:16:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07465 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:15:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07458 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:15:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from cia.com.au ([203.17.36.22]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA24299 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:15:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 32281 invoked from network); 13 Jul 1999 14:15:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO student.unsw.edu.au) (203.28.48.118) by cia.com.au with SMTP; 13 Jul 1999 14:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <378BF1C7.1B7B418F@student.unsw.edu.au> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:11:19 +1000 From: Duncan Keenan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lifts to Ross-on-Wye? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk G'Day, my name is Duncan Keenan, and I play for the Feral team from Sydney, Australia. Myself and most of my team (all nice, polite Australian lads) will be touching down in London on Friday, 23rd July, and trying to get to Ross-on-Wye to play in the tournament there as part of our warm-up for clubs. We were wondering if there were any London ultimate players who are driving to Ross on friday who could offer us some lifts? It would be much appreciated. Thanks Duncan Keenan Feral Sydney, Australia From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 14 14:04:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29727 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29700; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:47 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21069; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:45 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:42 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D0E@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, tsuil@csv.warwick.ac.uk, queen@bigwig.net, phubx@csv.warwick.ac.uk, psuth@csv.warwick.ac.uk, jessica_hybert@yahoo.com, ayrton@nsc.co.uk, kaytewass@hotmail.com, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, skirwan@ford.com, james.smalley@mazars-nr.co.uk, tony.davies@jewson.co.uk, annabel@muxloe67.freeserve.co.uk, baconjj@easymail.stcleres.essex.sch.uk, e.davison@ucsm.ac.uk, laurathwaite@hotmail.com, esvyu@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Kaptaincrazyford@hotmail.com Subject: Change of Contact Info Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:30 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D0E@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BECDF9.282CD580" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BECDF9.282CD580 Content-Type: text/plain To everyone this concerns: >From July 21st please address all electronic mail for Whiplash, or any personal email for me, to the following account: mjj_hq@yahoo.co.uk mailto:mjj@yahoo.co.uk Please be advised that the use of telepathy may get a quicker response. >From this point the most reliable methods of reaching me will be the archaic: BT and Royal Mail. Existing contacts stand: 14 Troutbeck Peartree Bridge Milton Keynes MK6 3ED 01908 666573 One of advantage of phoning will be the quirky messages ever-ready to greet your cheeful voices. Don't expect me to be in unless it's after 01:00 or before 10:00. 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So here's the list of cheques received that went to the wrong address. Bliss (resent cheque received, original destroyed) Whiplash Bradford Old Boys (Is this the Bradford that had the reserve spot?) SOUP MMJ (resent cheque received, original destroyed) Albatross Nightfever Gael Force Catch 22 Overflow BAF PornStars Smudge Twin Peaks (resent cheque received, original destroyed) Hopefully that's the end of the chaos due to the address, thanks. I will try to sort out a web site (directions, maps, teams etc.) which will probably end up at http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ross99/ -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 14 23:53:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12658 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:52:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12653 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:52:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd90.hotmail.com [207.82.252.154]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19460 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:52:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 60673 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 1999 22:52:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990714225203.60672.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.247.225.57 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:52:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.247.225.57] From: "Jester Bit" To: scotdisc@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: You. Will. Sing. Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:52:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To the tune of the disco legend 'I will survive' Ohhhhhhh... It's back! It's in yer face Crazy discmen in the picture a phantom Frisbee they do chase Place a cross where you think that disc should surely be Win fame and fortune, life long friends And prizes off of me! Ohhhhhhh wish! You'll Spot the Disc! Cross it slap bang in the centre and laugh until you pish! You'll get calls from old aquaintences You thought were surely dead And your partner will drop to her/his knees And gladly offer head! Ohhhhhhh! Oh yes indead fellow disc girls and boys! Exeter will see the return of the fantastic Big Issue money raiser from Soup, Spot the Disc! Same format as Edinburgh, buy a game card for £1 over the course of teh weekend, make three guesses and hand it back. Get it right and win some cracking surprise prizes. Help us beat the £140(!) raised at Edinburgh! Cannae wait All the bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 15 12:18:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22177 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:17:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22113; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:17:37 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24388; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:17:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:17:31 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:17:30 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D26@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, annabel@muxloe67.freeserve.co.uk, esvyu@csv.warwick.ac.uk, tsuil@csv.warwick.ac.uk, queen@bigwig.net, phubx@csv.warwick.ac.uk, e.davison@ucsm.ac.uk, baconjj@easymail.stcleres.essex.sch.uk, psuth@csv.warwick.ac.uk, jessica_hybert@yahoo.com, ayrton@nsc.co.uk, kaytewass@hotmail.com, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, skirwan@ford.com, laurathwaite@hotmail.com, captainkrazyford@hotmail.com, james.smalley@mazars-nr.co.uk, tony.davies@jewson.co.uk Subject: FW: Change of Contact Info Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:17:20 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D26@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BECEB3.A0037311" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BECEB3.A0037311 Content-Type: text/plain Bollocks. Sorry guys, error in previous related message (in the mailto address) revised: mjj_hq@yahoo.co.uk Yours humbly Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: M.J.Jefferson > Sent: 14 July 1999 14:03 > To: 'britdisc'; 'Chris'; 'Chris'; 'Ed'; 'James'; 'Jess'; 'Jim'; 'Kayte'; > 'Kermit'; 'Kermit'; 'Spider'; 'Tony'; 'Annabel Green'; 'Jacqui Bacon'; > 'Emma'; 'Laura'; 'Challis'; 'Matt Ford' > Subject: Change of Contact Info > > To everyone this concerns: > > From July 21st please address all electronic mail for Whiplash, or any > personal email for me, to the following account: > > mjj_hq@yahoo.co.uk mailto:mjj@yahoo.co.uk > > Please be advised that the use of telepathy may get a quicker response. > > From this point the most reliable methods of reaching me will be the > archaic: BT and Royal Mail. Existing contacts stand: > > 14 Troutbeck > Peartree Bridge > Milton Keynes > MK6 3ED > > 01908 666573 > > One of advantage of phoning will be the quirky messages ever-ready to > greet your cheeful voices. 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Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:31:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29991 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:31:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13280 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:31:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from west-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (west-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.124.1]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10157 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:31:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from LUCS-H21/SpoolDir by west-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 15 Jul 99 16:30:55 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H21 (Mercury 1.45); 15 Jul 99 16:30:47 GMT0BST From: "Jonny K" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:30:14 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: contact for jedi Reply-to: geo6jpb@leeds.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <457369B3BAE@west-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone have the phone number for Anthony Procter from Jedi. Either his Leeds number or his home address would be great. Thanks alot, Jon Bielby From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 16 11:05:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26640 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:04:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26634 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:04:40 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08654 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:04:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:04:39 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <397L3M20>; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:04:37 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D41@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: URGENT: FAO all unrostered players Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:04:36 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D41@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BECF72.9C9E10ED" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BECF72.9C9E10ED Content-Type: text/plain Wanna play at Exeter this weekend? Well Whiplash needs you! Yes, you! Be part of the most wanted team in the country,* be part of a seat-of-your-pants kinda team, the sort of team you walk away from feeling glad to be alive..... Any volunteers please respond directly to this email. You will be required to sign a disclaimer before play. PLEASE! HELP US! Mark Whiplash *the only UK team to fall victim of an ugly take-over battle. 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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:15:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To any player in the south london area who has no team Diablo welcomes you to play in our first game to take place next Thursday at 7pm Clapham common. We practice with the london open session and the game will be Diablo players against those players who train there but already have a team else where. Diablo is comprised of a balanced mix of new and experienced players so everyone is welcome. Mail me first at BRASSEMAN@hotmail.com just so I can keep a check on numbers. We will be going to the Bristol Fiesta on the 21 st Aug and the open nationals on the 16th sept. So join up if you want to play som fun frisbee. Simon Brasse. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 16 12:36:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11831 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:35:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11731 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:35:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13068 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:35:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-67.name63.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.191.67] helo=alscomputer) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1156Gk-0004hH-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:35:10 +0100 Message-ID: <007601becf7e$a43c5980$0a12fea9@alscomputer> From: "Alan Harding" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Exeter Pickups Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:30:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01BECF87.04FBD4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01BECF87.04FBD4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any team going to Exeter this weekend that needs any extra = players please email me (I have just been let down by my team, cheers guys) Cheers Al. =20 Kniggets - Not any more!!!! =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- (alan_harding28@hotmail.com) Global (alan@ajh28.freeserve.co.uk) Home ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01BECF87.04FBD4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there any team going to = Exeter this=20 weekend that needs any extra players please email me
(I have just been let down by = my team,=20 cheers guys)
 
 
Cheers
 
Al.
 
Kniggets - Not any = more!!!!
 
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(alan_harding28@hotmail.com= )       =20 Global
(alan@ajh28.freeserve.co.uk= )         =20 Home
------=_NextPart_000_0073_01BECF87.04FBD4A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 16 13:48:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21936 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:47:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21931 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:47:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16740 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:47:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-38.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.1.38] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1157Oi-0003wi-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:47:28 +0100 Reply-To: "Ben Peek" From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Exeter - pick ups Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:46:08 +0100 Message-ID: <01becf89$2cbe70e0$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01BECF91.8E82D8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BECF91.8E82D8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, SuperFly have had a bit of a last minute hitch, with several people = having to drop out of tour 5 at the last minute, so we're really = desperate for players. If any unrostered playersout there are looking for a team to play with = (or if you're rostered and your team isn't going) then you're welcome to = join us, regardless of your level of skill and experience. Sorry for the = short notice, but that's all the notice I've been given too. Reply to this email, or call me on 07971 699702 if you're interested. If = you can't get in touch, just turn up at Exeter and find us at the = campsite or captain's meeting. Cheers, Ben SuperFly big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BECF91.8E82D8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
SuperFly have had a bit of a last minute hitch, with = several=20 people having to drop out of tour 5 at the last minute, so we're really=20 desperate for players.
If any unrostered playersout there are looking for a = team to=20 play with (or if you're rostered and your team isn't going) then you're = welcome=20 to join us, regardless of your level of = skill and=20 experience. Sorry for the short notice, but that's all the notice = I've=20 been given too.
 
Reply to this email, or call me on = 07971 699702=20 if you're interested. If you can't get in touch, just turn up at Exeter = and find=20 us at the campsite or captain's meeting.
 
Cheers,
 
Ben
SuperFly
big_boy@super-fly.frees= erve.co.uk
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 16 14:54:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00863 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:53:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00855 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:53:00 +0100 (BST) From: M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21864 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:53:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from edison.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:52:57 +0100 Received: by edison.open.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:52:56 +0100 Message-ID: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D49@bell.open.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: Exeter - pick ups Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:52:55 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D49@bell.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BECF92.8154DF90" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BECF92.8154DF90 Content-Type: text/plain Whiplash asked first! Play with us! > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Peek [SMTP:big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 16 July 1999 13:46 > To: Britdisc > Subject: Exeter - pick ups > > Hi folks, > > SuperFly have had a bit of a last minute hitch, with several people having > to drop out of tour 5 at the last minute, so we're really desperate for > players. > If any unrostered playersout there are looking for a team to play with (or > if you're rostered and your team isn't going) then you're welcome to join > us, regardless of your level of skill and experience. Sorry for the short > notice, but that's all the notice I've been given too. > > Reply to this email, or call me on 07971 699702 if you're interested. If > you can't get in touch, just turn up at Exeter and find us at the campsite > or captain's meeting. > > Cheers, > > Ben > SuperFly > big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk > ------_=_NextPart_000_01BECF92.8154DF90 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjkNAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQgABQAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAQkABAACAAAAAAAAAAEFgAMADgAAAM8H BwAQAA4ANAA3AAUAawEBIIADAA4AAADPBwcAEAAOADQANwAFAGsBAQmAAQAhAAAANDg1REI1NjA0 MDNCRDMxMTg0NzkwMDAwRjgzMEVEMjcA4wYBBIABABYAAABGVzogRXhldGVyIC0gcGljayB1cHMA 8AYBDYAEAAIAAAACAAIAAQOQBgDwCAAAMAAAAAMABoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFKFAAB0 EAAAHgAHgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAVIUAAAEAAAAFAAAAOC4wMgAAAAADAACACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAABhQAAAAAAAAsAAYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAOFAAAAAAAACwAC gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAADoUAAAAAAAADAAOACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAQhQAA AAAAAAMABIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwAFgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAGIUAAAAAAAAeAAiACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA2hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgAJgAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAN4UAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4ACoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA ADiFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAACAQkQAQAAAMcDAADDAwAAywUAAExaRnXgDF13AwAKAHJjcGcxMjXS MgD7MzYB6CACpAPjCQIAY2gKwHNldDAeIAcTAoMAUBBWcHJxmjIRVn0KgAjIIDsJbz0OMDUUTwpg AoAKgXVjWwBQCwNjAEELYG4OEDDEMzMLpiBXaAUgC2Aoc2ggGUBrCYAgZoJpEQB0ISAgUAtgFHkg A/B0GWB1cyE/CqIKhAqBF6ABQBKgb3SFBZB0EeQxNiAtHUJ6TwUQZwuAB0AF0AeQc/hhZ2UdQxs2 HFQcIQsTQRxWaS0xNDQBQGyOaSDjDNAg42IgRgNh6joMg2IRQEIJ8BpQCeAAayBbU01UUDoKYh2w XwbgeUBzdYJwBJAtZmx5LgNQQwngERBydmUuBaAu+HVrXRs1IhAGYAIwInfZHRFKdSTgJ2A5KAAn YJAzOjQ2JhdUbyJ4OQUQdGQEAADgJid1YuZqHIEid0V4ESAEkB0w/CBwDeAjcCSAEKAe/yAJzxeg DlAX4gHQNTcLpxtDjEhpGdAG8GtzLBvz9QvhNBs1fhs1GKMq4CSRPkYnwRDgJYAzQRnAYSBzI/AF QG9mM9EZMQVAbb0LgHUccDNAGsAQ0CwapNsRECWAch3xJJBvC1AzggJ2C4BnIHRvIGR9A2BwNDA1 EDQyN3AIcCB+NRlwBUAa0DOANJk1oHPRN4B3ZScVsCAVsAdA+yfBAQBzJJE40DOAAhAFwGULUXkE kHMuMToYo0nlNFFuGpB1bgNgGhAEkH8ZsTv1N/I5ATpxCsA5IW88b2s3MjuyM+AccGFtNzdiO/Ia pCgFsQaQIHn/CGA6Yz4mAHAZwEJhBcBA00kEAG4nBUBnbzcxKe848gOgQmU6QGwFoAeAN2LeakSx GvE1oBWwZwsRNtD/BBE0QC6yGkBDozbQJYADIJ80QRmQAxADIENiZXgkkZEIkG5jZRvyIC4GAH0F sHIakDuyOQIZUAkRIG5uHGAN4DnhYj8jONAnXwQgOsE480wUPXAnM3Fi+wnhRJBpJYADoDdwJcAx P+cb0w5QGKNSZQtQGpA3cX8a0AQASbAAwAMQNaAFsWMHTUJGIQIgIDA3OTfIMSA2KAA3MBLQQjj3 C4A+Qj4xZEqwPYFCYVKx30RjESBU0ThSNYJqGwA44f8IcEaxN9A40SvlQ2IZ4ENx9xsAOMZSwG0s 0BrAUyFSov8FMAtxTREHgBEgNzE8YDEP/VBdQzkQPDEw71zfIwFeXvdQtzLGISFuSlIAUCewM/Hz JB8lLCA8UjI3cCPvZH9ePhvzJ7BeihNhAGmgAAMALgAAAAAACwACAAEAAAAeAHAAAQAAABIAAABF eGV0ZXIgLSBwaWNrIHVwcwAAAAIBcQABAAAAGwAAAAG+z4p0aGDgH4I7cRHTvE4AAPgwoNoAFz5V 4AALABcMAAAAAAMAXUAAAAAAQAA5ALA7DIGSz74BAwDxPwkEAAAeADFAAQAAAAUAAABNSjkyAAAA AAMAGkAAAAAAHgAwQAEAAAAFAAAATUo5MgAAAAADABlAAAAAAAMA/T/kBAAAAwAmAAAAAAADADYA AAAAAAMAgBD/////AgFHAAEAAAAsAAAAYz1HQjthPSA7cD1hYy51aztsPUJFTEwtOTkwNzE2MTM1 MjU1Wi0yMzgyMQACAfk/AQAAAEYAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089T1BF Ti9PVT1PUEVOTUFJTC9DTj1SRUNJUElFTlRTL0NOPU1KOTIAAAAeAPg/AQAAAA4AAABNLkouSmVm ZmVyc29uAAAAHgA4QAEAAAAFAAAATUo5MgAAAAACAfs/AQAAAEYAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgA Ky/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089T1BFTi9PVT1PUEVOTUFJTC9DTj1SRUNJUElFTlRTL0NOPU1KOTIAAAAe APo/AQAAAA4AAABNLkouSmVmZmVyc29uAAAAHgA5QAEAAAAFAAAATUo5MgAAAABAAAcwNVYMgZLP vgFAAAgwkN9UgZLPvgEeAD0AAQAAAAUAAABGVzogAAAAAB4AHQ4BAAAAEgAAAEV4ZXRlciAtIHBp Y2sgdXBzAAAAHgA1EAEAAAA7AAAAPDU5NEUxMDkyRTgwNUQyMTE4NDNGMDAwMEY4MzBFRDI3MDQ1 ODZENDlAYmVsbC5vcGVuLmFjLnVrPgAACwApAAAAAAALACMAAAAAAAMABhB5ZuD6AwAHENECAAAD ABAQAAAAAAMAERABAAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAAV0hJUExBU0hBU0tFREZJUlNUUExBWVdJVEhVUy0t LS0tT1JJR0lOQUxNRVNTQUdFLS0tLS1GUk9NOkJFTlBFRUtTTVRQOkJJR0JPWUBTVVBFUi1GTFlG UkVFU0VSVkVDT1VLUwAAAAACAX8AAQAAADsAAAA8NTk0RTEwOTJFODA1RDIxMTg0M0YwMDAwRjgz MEVEMjcwNDU4NkQ0OUBiZWxsLm9wZW4uYWMudWs+AACLDA== ------_=_NextPart_000_01BECF92.8154DF90-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 16 15:58:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08932 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:57:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08920 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:57:27 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25813 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:57:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20210 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:56:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06640 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:58:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id PAA168928 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:56:52 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:17:14 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <594E1092E805D211843F0000F830ED2704586D49@bell.open.ac.uk> Subject: Re: FW: Exeter - pick ups MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-0e80b8b0-00000001" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --openmail-part-0e80b8b0-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline; filename="FW:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about a merger? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: FW: Exeter - pick ups Author: M.J.Jefferson (M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk) at cobo-unix-mime Date: 16/07/1999 14:52 Whiplash asked first! Play with us! > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Peek [SMTP:big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk] > Sent: 16 July 1999 13:46 > To: Britdisc > Subject: Exeter - pick ups > > Hi folks, > > SuperFly have had a bit of a last minute hitch, with several people having > to drop out of tour 5 at the last minute, so we're really desperate for > players. > If any unrostered playersout there are looking for a team to play with (or > if you're rostered and your team isn't going) then you're welcome to join > us, regardless of your level of skill and experience. Sorry for the short > notice, but that's all the notice I've been given too. > > Reply to this email, or call me on 07971 699702 if you're interested. 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Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:08:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10369 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:08:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25769; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:08:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 16 Jul 99 16:05:15 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 16 Jul 99 16:04:49 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: bdga@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:04:45 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Disc Golf X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <191C35527756@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Sun In Scotland I spoke to Guy Bolton the other day and he said that the Scottish Sun was going to run a two page spread on disc golf with plenty of photos from Mull. This was due to be published today, has anybody seen it? British Open Disc Golf With 500 pounds sponsorship from Dr David Lenihan, this will be the biggest prize money tournament ever in the UK. Hopefully we will get a record number of attendees and make a good impression on the viewers of Trans World Sport. As ever all standards are welcome from disc golf virgin to top professionals. Contact Toby Green at toby.green@ibm.net for details, see also www.discgolf.co.uk To build up the excitement for the Open, it would be good to have bdga e-group subscribers mail the bdga group to announce their intention to play. Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 18 13:06:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16093 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:04:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16085 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:04:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f183.hotmail.com [209.185.131.246]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13603 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:04:40 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 75355 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 1999 12:04:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990718120409.75354.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.81.66.190 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 05:04:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.81.66.190] From: "Deirdre Morris" To: sgibbons@datamonitor.com Cc: eurodisc@ira.uka.de, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Worlds Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:04:08 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am still looking to pick up with a women's or coed team for worlds. Sarah, is there any possibility to play with you guys? Please let me know. I am currently in Spain for a few weeks and will need to plan my travel schedule. Also, I am looking for work in Europe for September in sports marketing/management - organizing major sporting events or working in the sports marketing/sponsorship department of a company. Does anybody have any ideas/leads/connections? Much appreciated if so. Thanks! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 19 07:47:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24320 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24315 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06855 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA19473 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199907190647.HAA19473@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 24th July 1999 BDGA Golf: British Open - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Dorset [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@ibm.net Ross on Wye (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Saturday 31st July 1999 WUCC 99 Tune up tournament (2 days) @ Trent Park, London [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Colin Wagstaff Comment By Invitation Only Email Colin.Wagstaff@EULERGroup.com Phone 0181 360 8816 (home) 0171 860 2630 (work) Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 19 08:13:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25707 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:12:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25701 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:12:44 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05671 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:12:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12679 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:12:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17638 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id IAA138570 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:12:10 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:11:55 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id IAA25702 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Welcome to the LURKERS experience. We are hosting a fairwell tournament on the 28 & 29th August. There is space for 24 teams and the places will be allocated on a first cheque basis. I will NOT hold places, I cannot afford it. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 19 09:47:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04903 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:46:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04893 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:46:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from www1.xoommail.com (colo01-031.xoom.com [206.132.179.31]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10623 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:46:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (from service@localhost) by www1.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA01104; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:46:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:46:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199907190846.BAA01104@www1.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: mta99@bigfoot.com Subject: The Tour To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On behalf of SlipDisc I'd just like to say thanks to all involved in making this year Tour happen. It was great fun. Thanks. Mal. SlipDisc Ultimate (Birmingham) mta99@bigfoot.com ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occassion at http://greetings.xoom.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 19 10:00:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06778 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:59:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06770 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11786 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA22060 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:59:20 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.254.152) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma022051; Mon, 19 Jul 99 09:58:54 +0100 Received: by kevinl133 with Microsoft Mail id <01BED1CD.7A35CE40@kevinl133>; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:06 +0100 Message-ID: <01BED1CD.7A35CE40@kevinl133> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour V brief summary Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:00:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA06771 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Thanks to all the teams that turned up and made this a very enjoyable tournament to run. Wayne will be posting the official results later as he took the results away with him. He should also work out final tour placings and qualifications for nationals at some point, but give him a few days for that. Results in brief that I can remember. Please don't send corrections if they are wrong - leave that to Wayne 1 UTI 2 Catch 22 3 Chevron Action Flash 4 Dough Boy 5 Headrush 6 SOUP 7 Red 8 Fluid Druids 9 First Touch? 10 Strange Blue? 11 Blue Arse Flies I 12 Sharks 13 Night Fever 14 Overflow Too vague here. 20 Bliss 21 Combo (Whiplash, Superfly, Uriel) 22 Slipdisc 23 Wyld Stallyns? 24 Albatross? 25 Twin Peaks? 26 27 Gael Force 28 4 Non Blondes Spirit of the Game was won by Sharks. Kevin & Jennie. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 19 12:50:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29136 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:49:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29129 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:49:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f299.hotmail.com [209.185.130.247]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA23828 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:49:48 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 65251 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 1999 11:49:16 -0000 Message-ID: <19990719114916.65250.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.154.107.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:49:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.154.107.185] From: "Simon Brasse" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Diablo players / wanna be players wanting to go to tournies Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 04:49:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all Diablo players or thoes thinking about joining, If you want to go to the open national tournament on 16th of September for four days, then bring cash to Thursdays open session on Clapham common so we can pay our entrance fee and guarantee Diablo a place. 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The Tour V positions, and points awarded: Pos Pts Team 1 250 UTI 2 230 Catch 22 3 222 Chevron Action Flash 4 210 Dough Boy 5 205 Headrush 6 190 SOUP 7 181 Red 8 170 Fluid Druids 9 162 First Touch 10 150 Strange Blue 11 141 Blue Arse Flies 12 130 Sharks 13 125 Night Fever 14 110 Overflow (M) 15 101 Blue Arse Flies Too (C) 16 90 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 17 81 Phat 'Eds 18 73 Mild Mannered Janitors (C) 19 67 Jedi 20 60 Bliss (W) 21 53 Combo 22 47 Slipdisc 23 40 Wyld Stallyns 24 33 Albatross 25 27 Twin Peaks (W) 26 20 Skunks 27 13 Gael Force (C) 28 7 Four Non Blondes (W) > He should also work out final tour placings > and qualifications for nationals at some point The points above should leave you all with plenty to play with in the meantime, but I'll calculate the official overall rankings, and have them confirmed by Chris and Dora. Watch this space... Wayne -- Wayne Retter Ultim8 Committee From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 09:38:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24180 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:37:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24150 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:37:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from security.pantek.co.uk (pantek-130.pantek.co.uk [194.176.73.130] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09970 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:37:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from backup.pantek.co.uk (unverified) by security.pantek.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:33:52 +0100 Received: by pantek-7.pantek.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <32BLXF1V>; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:33:41 -0000 Message-Id: <534A9809B3B2D211BFD100A0C9833BD244804A@pantek-7.pantek.co.uk> From: Mark Williams To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: remove Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:33:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BED292.F3DB5B50" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01BED292.F3DB5B50-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 10:45:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03082 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:44:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03077 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:44:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from interleaf.com (ileaf.prospect.com [137.103.1.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14909 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:44:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from hq.interleaf.com (fw.ileaf.com) by interleaf.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03415; Tue, 20 Jul 99 05:35:20 EDT Received: from pdcbe1.be.ileaf.com by hq.interleaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with ESMTP id FAA13743; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:43:39 -0400 Received: by pdcbe1.be.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <308HV9CS>; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:32:24 +0200 Message-Id: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAE5AE796@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'fluiddruids@egroups.com'" Subject: Ross on Wye - teamlist Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:47:17 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK here's the list of teams who made it to Ross. Details are in the post to 16 of the teams that provided an address (marked *). Details are also available at http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/ross99/ . I have reproduced the directions below. See you there. Ross on Wye 1999 Team List Team Contact Fluid Druids Neil Travers Feral Duncan Keenan Les Vieux Invalids Bart Pookas Rejects Max Keogh Four Non Blondes Vanessa White Fingers 6 *Bliss Terri Whithead *Whiplash Mark Jefferson *Bradford Old Boys Victoria Payne *SOUP Charles Heenan *M.M.J. Ben Mitchell *Albatross Philipp Prince *Nightfever Nick Dray *Gael Force Richard Clegg *Catch 22 Matt (Bob) Himms *Overflow Wayne Ziants *B.A.F. James Hewitson *Pornstars David Unwin *Smudge Dave Grayson *Twin Peaks Helen Myers *SlipDisc Niall Gogin Dough Boys Sky *Old Trouts Scott Rose Sorry to those who didn't make it and apologies again for the address mistake. Directions A40 from Gloucester/Cheltenham: follow the A40 to a ROUNDABOUT where it turns right, the Fire Station is on your left. Go STRAIGHT ACROSS, into Ross along Gloucester Road. Keep going, past the Market Hall in the Town Centre, along High Street and out of town. Follow the road as it goes left and down the hill as Wilton Road (B4260) and right a little at the bottom. On the LEFT is a CAR PARK. (If you cross the river, you've gone too far, turn back at the roundabout) TURN IN here, follow the trackway that's to the right of the car park and leads to the Ross Sports Centre. M50 from Worcester/Birmingham/M5 & A449 from Ledbury/Malvern: to the ROUNDABOUT that has the Livestock Market signposted and has the A40 as two exits. Follow the A40, towards Monmouth to the A40/A49/B4260 ROUNDABOUT and take the first exit, towards Ross. You can now follow the directions below. A40 from Monmouth/Symonds Yat/South Wales & A49 from Hereford/Leominster: follow either the A40 or A49 until you get to the A40/A49 ROUNDABOUT. Head into Ross on Wye on the B4260 (not along the A40/bypass) over the river on Wilton Bridge onto Wilton Road. On the right is a CAR PARK. TURN IN here, follow the trackway that's to the right of the car park and leads to the Ross Sports Centre. NOBODY, but NOBODY, SHOULD DRIVE ACROSS THE CRICKET PITCH AT ANY TIME P.S. Sharks, I haven't been able to tell you you're not in because you didn't include any contact info at all!! DON'T reply to this (my work address), use - mailto:ross99@dreamer.demon.co.uk -- Neil Travers Ross on Wye home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 14:31:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29747 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:30:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29741 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:30:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29975 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:30:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from HUMSCF2S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:29:31 +0100 Received: from HUMSCF2S/SpoolDir by HUMSCF2S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 20 Jul 99 14:29:32 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by HUMSCF2S (Mercury 1.43); 20 Jul 99 14:29:26 GMT0BST From: DAVID BARNARD To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:29:23 GMT0BST Subject: Ross pickups X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi all, There are two players from Cardiff wishing to play at Ross but have no one to play for. Are there any teams out there looking for two fantastic up and coming players. If so let me know. Dave (22) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 17:27:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23624 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:26:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23611 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:26:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12165 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:26:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 20 Jul 99 17:23:34 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 20 Jul 99 17:23:27 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:23:17 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Scottish Sun feature on disc golf X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <197D87A32716@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA23614 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, A big feature on disc golf appeared in the Scottish Sun last Friday. Liam Young posted the following to the BDGA e-group, and I thought it would be of interest to the wider disc community. Most of the 'quotes' from Guy are complete balls, made up by the 'journalist'. Disc Golf comes out of it very well, but it's absolute proof that the tabloids simply lie. The photos are good, but too big to pass on after scanning. I'm including the text below. I haven't bothered trying to fix text recognition after scanning. It's almost total lies so isn't worth the time. Guy said nothing about Colin Montgomerie, and Michael Jordan was nowhere near the place. So please don't pass this on to be mistaken for the truth. Looks like the Sun doesn't just have tits on Page 3, they employ them as journalists as well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------- "HOW TO PLAY GOLF WITH NO BALLS". The Eyes of the World are on Carnoustie, but could Tiger and Monty hack it on Mull? By GRAEME DONOHOE COLIN MONTGOMERIE is among the favourites to win The Open at Carnoustie this weekend and scoop his first ever major event. The man who won last week's Loch Lomond tournament is on top of his game and confident of beating the world's best golfers on home soil. It seems Monty has been Europe's lead-ing moneywinner for ever with the skills he developed at the home of golf. But Monty - dubbed Mrs Doubtfire by American fans - is almost as famous for his legendary temper. And there's one Scots course guaranteed to push him over the edge - Scotland's only FRISBEE golf course on the weather-beaten isle of Mull. Frisbee golf has taken off in the U.S. and top players are now competing for up to £100,000 a tournament. But MuLL greenkeeper Guy BoLton reck-ons Monty wouLd crack up and never con-quer the new craze because he's too FAT. Guy said: "The sports are virtually identi-cal although I'd say frisbee golf has all the thrills and spills while being a fair bit more energetic. "A fit guy like Tiger Woods would have no difficulty taking it up and I reckon he should come over and try it out when he's finished in Carnoustie. "But I'm afraid I could see our Monty struggling because your arms need a lot of stan~ina and his are just too flabby "I'd imagine he'd completely blow his top if he tried it out because he hates being no good at something - he gets totally demoralised. "And I wouldn't fancy trying to calm him down while he waited for his ferry to get back home to the mainland" The sport's becoming increasingly popu-lar in Britain with more and more fans ditching their clubs and making the trek to Mull to play on Scotland's only course. Excitement And the Scottish Sun decided to get into the swing of things and try out the new sport to see if it can rival The Open for excitement The rules are almost identical to golf -the aim being to get down to each of the 18~boles in as few throws as possible. There's even a variety of different dis-tance discs - ranging from driver to putter - to throw towards specially made baskets on the 'greens'. My handicap for real golf has always been a complete lack of ability. ~ut while I might get in trouble throw-ing golf clubs around in frustration, in disc golf it's actively encouraged. My first attempt from the 'tee' was a brilliant effort which flew straight and long - beginner's luck. Soon everyone was diving for cover and it was clear there were the same pitfalls as real golf as I struggled with my aim. The game manages to capture the sense of fun though It has the same scoring system as real golf and here I battled to meet the 63 par for the course. There was no danger ~t the course record 48 being broken witf~ me around But Guy, 35, reckons ~t won't be long till the fledgling game rivals its ancient father. He said: "Disc gQlf is massive in the States and more peopl, are beginning to hear about it in Britain. "We've held the Scottish Open in Mull for a few years now and this year was the best ever - we had over 100 players. "There might only be a £70 prize pot but players are competing for the honour and the trophy and we even have players trav-elling to compete from America" Guy added: "The sport is great fun and unlike golf you don't have to spend a for-tune on clubs, shoes and other equipment "All you need are yo~tw. discs which only cost about a fiver each and they're not easily lost unlike balls.. "It only gets expensive if you score a hole in one because we. follow the same tradition as golf that That Means you must buy a round for everyone in the bar' "I would certainly encourage anyone who's travelled to Carnoustie for the Brit-ish Open and has a couple of extra days to come over to Mull and tryit out" One big an of the sport is basketball ace Michael Jordan - who even sneaked a visit to the Scots taLe because he was deter-mined to play on Scotland's only course. The world's biggest earning sportsman -who raked in £20 million a year before retiring earlier this year - made the trip during a 10- day Scots break in May. Jordan, 36. visited the home of golf to take on Scotland's world famous courses including St Andrews, Royal Troon and Turnberry. But the 6ft 7in former - Chicago Bull hero's tour highlight was his trip to Mull. Yet Guy didn't even know who his latest Yank visitor was until he recognised him in the pape~& later that w..kl Guy laughed. "I can't believe the world's richest sportsman came to play and I never realised - I'm now wracking my brains to work out if I've also missed guys like Arnie Schwarzenegger, Mike Tyson or Jack Nicholson' "Disc golf is a big thing in the States so we get a lot of Americans popping over to p lay here while they're in Scotland because we're listed on the sport's official Internet site. "I don't follow basketball so I only clocked who he was when I noticed him in the papers - the only thing that really stoodout was he was incredibly tall. "There was about seven people over with him and they were a good laugh. "He was wearing shiny new white train-ers but there's quite a lot of sheep ~ on the course so by the time they finished the round they were totally cak edt "But they were all just laughing and jok- ing and asking if St Andrews was like this as well. Stars "They told me they'd played a few courses in Ireland and Scotland but that Mull was the best fun they'd had yet. "The y were really quite blown away with the views we have up here and I suppose now it should have been no sur-prise that Michael was one of the best players I've ever seen" Guy - who also runs Mull's Dalriada Kennels - is now hoping to get a High-land & Islands Council grant to buy a clubhouse just in case he has any more star visitors He said: "My ambition is to raise enough money to build a clubhouse "This is something the local authorities should take more seriously - kids love the game and you could do a tie in with all the local schools. "Mull's a great place to stay and this could really put the island on the map. "Who knows, maybe in a few years our sport will put guys -J~ike Tiger Woods and Cohn Montgomerie in the shade." oYou can book a round of frisbee goLf by contacting .Guy BoLton on 01688 500249. U DRIVING ME CRAZY... expert Guy shows our Graeme how is should be done *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 19:24:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06099 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:24:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06093 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:24:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f153.hotmail.com [209.185.131.216]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA17190 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:24:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 15049 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jul 1999 18:23:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990720182329.15048.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.154.107.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:23:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.154.107.185] From: "Simon Brasse" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Diablo Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:23:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To answer all enquieries at once: On Thursdays we mix in with the London Ultimate session that takes place on the second segment of Clapham common away from Clapham south tube. This Thusday we are having a game against all those who play at he London open session but are not part of Diablo. Anyone is welcome to join our team and it should make for a very enjoyable game. I don't know how much it'll be per person for either the Bristol fiesta or the National open because I'm not sure how many people want to come with Diablo. However, they are £120 and £140 respectively so if your interested bring £20 on Thursday and that should cover both. My own question to anyone who has started a team is: where is the best place in London to get good quality shirts printed up at a reasonable price? Best wishes to you all Simon Brasse (RED BULL) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 20 20:33:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12022 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:32:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12014 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:32:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx.seanet.com (dns2.seanet.com [199.181.164.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19947 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:32:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from andy1 (o15.dialup.seanet.com [207.12.129.143]) by mx.seanet.com (8.9.3/Seanet-8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16239 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000e01bed2ea$36970640$61a1fea9@andy1> From: "Andy Fuller" To: Subject: worlds Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:57:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BED2AF.65A6E9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BED2AF.65A6E9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm an ultimate player from Seattle flying into London on Fri. the 6th = at 10:30 am, and looking for a way up to Edinburgh. Do any Brits. have = space in a car or other suggestions? (I played for Shotgun at Worlds in = Vancouver and in Rotterdam in 94, so some of you may remember me). = Cheers -- Andy Fuller ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BED2AF.65A6E9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm an ultimate player from Seattle = flying into=20 London on Fri. the 6th at 10:30 am, and looking for a way up to = Edinburgh. =20 Do any Brits. have space in a car or other suggestions?  (I played = for=20 Shotgun at Worlds in Vancouver and in Rotterdam in 94, so some of you = may=20 remember me).  Cheers -- Andy Fuller
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BED2AF.65A6E9E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 12:07:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29225 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:06:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29208 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:06:08 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:08:11 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Do you collect discs? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A TV researcher has contacted me to ask if there are any UK based disc ("frisbee") collectors who have an insight into the history of the products they collect and covet. Anyone out in britdisc land know of any such people? If so, please get back in touch with me ASAP with their contact details. Cheers, Sam Neilson D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 12:36:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03412 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:35:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03402 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:35:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19053 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:35:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@morph.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00631 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:35:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from cc23.pub.brad.ac.uk (shunter1@cc0116cc23.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.33]) by morph.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA27505 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:36:28 +0100 (BST) From: Steven Hunter To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: remove Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:36:25 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Remove from mailing list ---------------------- Steven Hunter shunter1@Brad.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 13:20:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08558 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:19:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08551 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:19:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20774 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:19:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:18:59 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:19:13 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED505@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Tour Results Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:19:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you who have not checked out the website; http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour1999/index.htm then here are the final placings. Congratulations to UTI for winning the tour in the last game of the whole series, despite a determined effort by Catch 22 to sneak past them at the end. There was only one tie on points for 24th place between Pookas and Gael Force, resolved in Pookas' favour (by virtue of having finished higher in T4). Nationals seedings to follow, with Spirit once it has been worked out. Chris DoC <<...>> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 13:30:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09982 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:29:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09977 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:29:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28201 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:29:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:28:48 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:29:02 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED507@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Tour Results Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:29:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ooopps - maybe this time it will work; sorry all. > ---------- > From: HUGHES, Chris[SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > Sent: 21 July 1999 13:19 > To: 'BritDisc' > Subject: Tour Results > > For those of you who have not checked out the website; > http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour1999/index.htm > then here are the final placings. > > Congratulations to UTI for winning the tour in the last game of the whole > series, despite a determined effort by Catch 22 to sneak past them at the > end. > > There was only one tie on points for 24th place between Pookas and Gael > Force, resolved in Pookas' favour (by virtue of having finished higher in > T4). > > Nationals seedings to follow, with Spirit once it has been worked out. > > Chris > DoC > > U.T.I. > Catch 22 > Chevron Action Flash > Dough Boy > Red > S.O.U.P. > Fluid Druids > Blue Arse Flies > First Touch > Headrush > Nightfever > Strange Blue > Phat 'Eds > Wyld Stallyns > Sharks > Bliss (W) > Mohawk Mwnci Magic > Skunks > Mild Mannered Janitors (C) > Blue Arse Flies Too (C) > Smudge > Overflow > Whiplash > Gael Force (C) > Pookas > Twin Peaks (W) > Jedi > Albatross > Slipdisc > Fingers 6 > Combo > Red II > Sneeeky's > Bruce Lee Dragons (nee K-Niggets) > Hurricane > Shooting Stars > Superfly > Falling Skies > 4 Non Blondes (W) > Skunks II > Deep Blue > Phat Fingers > Picnic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 13:45:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11940 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:43:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11929 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:43:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.charite.de (barrier-17.charite.de [193.175.73.17]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29553 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:43:55 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.charite.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA04512; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:43:23 +0200 Received: from postamt1.charite.de(193.175.70.246) by mailhost.charite.de via smap (V1.3-PCG 08/1998) id sma004559; Wed Jul 21 14:43:01 1999 Received: by postamt1.charite.de (8.8.8/1.1.22.3/14Jul99-0931AM) id OAA0000026642; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:43:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from asthma.hau.charite.de(192.168.65.193) by postamt1.charite.de via smap (V1.3-PCG 08/1998) id sma030184; Wed Jul 21 14:42:55 1999 Message-Id: <3795C154.DA0175B9@charite.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:47:16 +0200 From: Ralf X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WUCC_Drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello to the U.K. I have booked 4 places on a ferry from Newcastle to Hamburg on the 23rd of August and one of the payers is going home earlier than he planed before. So there will be one place free Maybe somebody is interested. Ralf Otto-Knapp oknapp@charite.de Telefon: 030-29490982 Berlin, Germany From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 14:05:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14742 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14736 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22818 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:03:33 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:03:47 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED508@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Tim Blair'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Tour Results Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:03:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk These are simply the Tour finishing positions which is the total of all the tour ranking points scored. The Nationals seedings is based on the best four results a team has achieved (there are also rules on rostering - only the top two unrostered teams can enter into the 9 - 16 group). These results will be published later, and yes there are some changes in the order based only on points but not much. Speculate to your hearts content, but until we have checked and double checked the calculations nothing will be confirmed. Chris > ---------- > From: Tim Blair[SMTP:timothy.blair@ntli.net] > Sent: 21 July 1999 13:51 > To: HUGHES, Chris > Subject: Re: Tour Results > > > Chris, > > > > How are the rankings worked out? > > > > Are results for all tour events added together, or only the highest > four > > events? > > > > I, amongst everyone I talked to, was led to believe that the lowest > score > > was dropped, and the remaining four added together. This switches a > few > > teams around - Headrush & Frist Touch, Night Fever & Strange Blue, > Sharks > & > > Wyld Stallyns, but most importantly Mohawk Mwnci Magic & Bliss - moving > MMM > > into 16th place and qualifying, and pushing Bliss out... (According to > my > > calculations anyway...) > > > > Any enlightenment? > > > > Tim. > > Have I been an idiot, or do I just think I'm an idiot? > > This is how I see it : The results you sent out were final placings for > the > tour (all five results count). The teams qualifying for the Nationals are > worked out by dropping the lowest score, and they're the seeding's you'll > send out later... > > Is this correct, or am I still an idiot? > > Tim. > > -- > Tim Blair > Student Development Engineer > NTL Internet, Hook > email : timothy.blair@ntli.net > Phone : 01256 752318 > ICQ : 42522801 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 21 15:02:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23349 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:00:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23338 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:00:51 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:02:54 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Do you collect discs? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Many thanks to the numerous people who replied about this topic, the most amusing being: "...and give them more 'Frisbee Anorak' ammo? Not likely!" [Name withheld, but you may recognise their 'style' ;-) ] Its worth noting that having tons of discs is not the same as being an active collector - I too hoard the tournament discs I have gathered over the years, but would never call myself a collector. The good news is that we have located a 'Frisbee Anorak' who is actually listed in Victor Malafronte's disc collectors bible "The Complete Book Of Frisbee" - the old geezer is based in the Midlands and I have put him in touch with the TV researcher. Anyone else who has a genuine interest in this area should contact me and I will forward your details to the elderly gentleman. I'm sure you appreciate that I have not named him here for obvious reasons, but he may wish to announce his true identity, especially if he is indeed featured on the Channel 4 TV programme being prepared. Cheers, Sam. >A TV researcher has contacted me to ask if there are any UK based disc >("frisbee") collectors who have an insight into the history of the products >they collect and covet. > >Anyone out in britdisc land know of any such people? If so, please get back >in touch with me ASAP with their contact details. > >Cheers, > >Sam Neilson > >D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 12:13:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19320 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:12:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19308 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:12:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05237 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:12:21 +0100 (BST) Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:07:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: BRITDISC Subject: Lift from London to Ross? Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:07:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Has anyone out there got room for 2 Londoners in their car down to Ross? North London preferably but willing to travel. Let me know Cheers Dave (UTI) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 13:40:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00329 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:39:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00317 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:39:11 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:41:15 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: "Overalls" are not only for DIY enthusiasts! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ... or are they? Read on and decide for yourself who the true tossers are! There is usually a lot of Ultimate chat and debate on this forum and the occasional Disc Golf announcement, but how many BritDisc readers realised that there are more events in the "Frisbee Family" than just these two most popular siblings? You may have heard of the team sport of Guts, but as an event is not very often contested either in Britain or internationally - at least NOT in its 'full-on' version. A familiar close cousin is 'Flutter' Guts (aka 'Nerd' Guts', and by some older people referred to as 'Gollum'), which is often played between games / rounds for a bit of fun ... but that's not the sport I want to talk about here. How many of you have heard of the following in the flying disc context: Freestyle; Distance; Accuracy; Double Disc Court (DDC); Self Caught Flight (SCF); Maximum Time Aloft (MTA); Throw, Run & Catch (TRC); Discathon? Well now you have. Apart from some sideline tricks (ask Derek Robins to show you his "toothbrush"!) and the occasional pick-up game of DDC at the British Open in Eastbourne, these events have not been contested in any organised way in Britain for almost a decade [at least, as far as I am aware - please tell me if I am wrong]. However, the story is not quite the same in other parts of the world and the (so called) individual events [NB DDC is played in pairs and Freestyle is mostly contested in pairs or triples], are played widely in the USA, Sweden and sporadically in other places in Europe and beyond. Perhaps it is no surprise that there are regular World Championships for these events, but did you know that over 125 of the top players from a dozen countries around the world (plus a lone Brit) converged on Kalmar, Sweden to battle it out in the WFDF World Overall Championships?! "Overall? What's that?" I hear you say ... well I needed the pre-amble to help define exactly what we spent a whole week doing! The World Overall consists of seven events - a sort of "Frisbee Decathlon" (okay, 'Sept'athlon for you scholars) where, in addition to event champions, you gain points from each event towards the 'overall' award. The seven events are as follows: 1) Accuracy (total of 28 shots from 7 stations thrown through a fixed target) 2) Discathon (alternately throwing 2 discs around a 1km course against the clock) 3) Disc Golf 4) Distance (best of 5 throws - *with* the prevailing wind) 5) DDC (2 players per team, 2 teams, 2 discs - like doubles tennis but no net!) 6) Freestyle (3 to 5 minutes of tricks choreographed to music) 7) SCF (combined total points = {MTA [seconds] * 5.5} + TRC [metres]) These 'individual' events used to be very popular in Britain during the late '70s and early '80s attracting as many players as there are Ultimate players today! But lack of British-based events does not mean that the interest is dead. If you would like to find out more about playing these sports for fun or - better still - arranging some friendly challenge events between rival Ulty teams or Disc Golf clubs, then drop me a line and I'll help you all I can. Cheers, Sam Neilson. PS If you want to know how I got on at the World Overalls ... watch this space! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 16:04:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19221 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19201 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:00 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23830 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:02:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:03 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04575; Thu, 22 Jul 99 16:02:59 BST Message-Id: <9907221502.AA04575@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:02:56 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Flutter of Flubber Guts In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can somebody give me a definitive ruling on whether this is flutter or flubber guts, when I started playing I thought it was flutter but was corrected by some other ultimate type (a BAF boy I think) who told me it was flubber. The issue came up again recently at the Portuguese ultimate hat tournament when players again had various opinions but eventually flubber was decided upon (and the world club championships was played - you can see the results at ultilinks). Now a seasoned pro like Mr.Neilson says its flutter. Can anyone shed some light on this? > 'full-on' version. A familiar close cousin is 'Flutter' Guts (aka 'Nerd' > Guts', and by some older people referred to as 'Gollum'), which is often > played between games / rounds for a bit of fun ... but that's not the sport > I want to talk about here. >Sam Neilson From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 16:29:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22751 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22736 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.48]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18615 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from rfil1.phar.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.35.119]) by taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.023 #2) id 117KlP-0000zY-00; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:02 +0100 From: "M.J. Schell" To: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Flutter of Flubber Guts Message-ID: <1486031.3141649682@rfil1.phar.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <9907221502.AA04575@damson.open.ac.uk> Originator-Info: login-id=mjs54; server=imap.cus.cam.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.4.3, s/n S-100001] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --On Thu 22 Jul 1999 4:02 pm +0100 p.m.connor@open.ac.uk wrote: > Can somebody give me a definitive ruling on whether this is flutter > or flubber guts Perhaps not definitive--but I played flutter guts in the States as early as 1985. Never once, until the Portuguese report, had I heard it called "flubber." I suspect "flubber" is a European dialect for the original American word "flutter." Also, what is the earliest known example of spike guts? I first played it around 1987, but it may be older than that. Mike Schell From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 16:36:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24071 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:36:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24060 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:36:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from E-MAIL.COM (e-mail.com [204.146.168.195]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA27424 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:35:59 +0100 (BST) Received: by E-MAIL.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 6832 ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:35:43 EDT Received: from roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk [194.202.79.130] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:34:56 EDT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:35:52 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BB6D0CD0@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Flutter vs flubber Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:35:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think this is a fascinating illustration of linguistic evolution, the way in which language subtly changes from one generation to the next. We should take advantage of our good fortune in having Sammy, a living link to the past, to provide us with insights into the frisbee terminology of bygone days. Or maybe it's his memory going. Alex UTI PS It's flutter. All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 020 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 17:13:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28954 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:12:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28942 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:12:00 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BB6D0CD0@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:14:01 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Flutter vs flubber Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I think this is a fascinating illustration of linguistic evolution, the >way in which language subtly changes from one generation to the next. We >should take advantage of our good fortune in having Sammy, a living link >to the past, to provide us with insights into the frisbee terminology of >bygone days. > >Or maybe it's his memory going. > >Alex >UTI > >PS It's flutter. ... I tried checking with some close relatives of mine, but the platypus said it was called "quackker" while the celocanth (sp?) pronounced it "blubber" guts - if I can get some sense from any other living fossils I'll let you know. I am hoping that the tanker of molten amber that overtakes me each evening after work as I cycle home, does not have any catastrophic disaster or I might end up becoming 'Old Codgers of the 23 century' ... arrgh! I better go home! Sammysaurus Neilson. PS Hannah - do you have a 'word wrap' feature on your mail software - just wondered ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 19:50:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14776 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:49:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14769 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:49:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail28.prontomail.com (mail28.prontomail.com [209.185.149.128]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07883 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:49:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from jamiecrick (209.185.149.219) by mail28.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:45:47 -0700 From: "Jamie Crick" Message-Id: <199907221146454@jamiecrick.excite.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:46:01 +0100 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Ross from London? X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone has a space in a car going to Ross (preferably Sat. morning, but Friday would be fine) from London, I would really appreciate it. My work number is 0171 860 2999 Home number 0181 769 1620 Or just email me back. I'm an ex-Toxic player, but I've changed. Honestly. Thanks a million James Burgess This E-mail brought to you by Excite's free E-mail service. Get your own E-mail address at http://www.excite.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 22 23:44:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04369 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:43:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04356 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:43:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA14552 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:43:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from i02mac189.ira.uka.de [129.13.2.189] by iraun1 with SMTP (PP) local; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:42:54 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Organisation: Home Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:43:43 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Re: Flutter of Flubber Guts Cc: gutsfrisbee-l@mtu.edu Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Perhaps not definitive--but I played flutter guts in the States as early as >1985. Never once, until the Portuguese report, had I heard it called >"flubber." I suspect "flubber" is a European dialect for the original >American word "flutter." Hm, when I was introduced to that form of Guts in 1981 by an American he called it "Butterfly Guts". While I consider the "linguistic evolution" to "Flutter" as cute, I cannot understand the mindset of the person who first called it "Flubber". Thomasaurus Griesbaum P.S.: cc-ed to the Guts mailing list because those folks will tell us what it was called in 1959 ... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 00:21:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19544 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:20:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19456 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:20:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA15983 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:20:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 9086 invoked from network); 22 Jul 1999 23:20:20 -0000 Received: from dyn215-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO ultilinks.com) (195.250.230.215) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 22 Jul 1999 23:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3797D0CB.31DC5C78@ultilinks.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:17:47 -0100 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.1 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: Flutter of Flubber Guts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those interested, check out: http://www.ultilinks.com/flubberguts/ The game is called in different ways and played with different rules around the world. I am now collecting all your quotes to add them to the site. You might also be interested in knowing that at the Sarnen (CH) Hat Tournament next weekend there will be another fund-raising flu[bb|tt]er guts competition. And the World Champions will be there! ;-) Ciao, Peldi PS.For those who follow r.s.d.: Flubber Guts is 1000 times better than Goaltimate! Call ESPN! ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 10:39:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27311 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:38:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27305 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:38:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com Received: from soolin.barclayscapital.com (hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA03643 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:38:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.barclayscapital.com ([141.228.4.66]) by soolin.barclayscapital.com via smtpd (for [172.30.33.49]) with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 09:38:23 UT Received: from finn.barclaycapital.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.barclayscapital.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA16186 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:39:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.barclayscapital.com by finn.barclaycapital.net via smtpd (for hermes.barclayscapital.com [141.228.4.66]) with SMTP; 23 Jul 1999 09:37:36 UT Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Received: (private information removed) Message-Id: <51A9FACC9BF1D21190D800805FFE61D96E1593@exlpseu010.ldn.bzwint.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pick-ups at Ross Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:37:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We're short of a couple of players this weekend for Ross, so if you haven't got a team to play for, come and play for Alb@Ross (aka Albatross). E-mail me back if you want to play, or call me after 6pm on 0958 903212, or just find me tonight (in the pub from around 10pm) or in the morning. Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information about Barclays Capital, please visit our web site at http://www.barcap.com. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the Barclays Group does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Barclays Group unless otherwise specifically stated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 11:01:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00075 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:00:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00069 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:00:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27958 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:00:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from rfil1.phar.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.35.119]) by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.023 #2) id 117c7k-0000ph-00; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:00:16 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:00:14 +0100 From: "M.J. Schell" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: gutsfrisbee-l@mtu.edu Subject: Re: Flutter of Flubber Guts Message-ID: <162996.3141716414@rfil1.phar.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Originator-Info: login-id=mjs54; server=imap.cus.cam.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.4.3, s/n S-100001] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The beauty of "flutter" is that it captures perfectly the delicate, chaotic flight of the non-spinning disc, whereas "flubber" sounds more like someting for a Superball or Silly Putty than for a Frisbee. Mike Schell From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 12:41:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12577 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12568 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from aligrafix.co.uk (merry.aligrafix.co.uk [193.123.31.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12793 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:40:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc8 (193.123.31.38) by aligrafix.co.uk with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:06 +0100 Message-ID: <003601bed4f7$8e3410a0$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> From: "Michael Beaton" To: Subject: Forwarded stuff about DDC and overall which may be of interest Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Dave Neilson To: Michael Beaton Date: Friday, 23 July 1999 01:00 Subject: Re: "Overalls" are not only for DIY enthusiasts! I think it would be good if some or all of this chat went to britdisc - feel free to forward it there should the mood take you! A coupla thoughts: - few people are good at ALL the events, but trying is FUN! - even in Sweden many people opted out of certain events - an 'overall' tournie can feature any combination of events the TD decides - I too am crap at Freestyle, but I had a go in Sweden and didn't come last! I think it is only natural to feel intimidated, but that's where its important to emphasise that newcomers and beginners are more than welcome - the BDGA does this with every one of its Disc Golf announcements and has even introduced some 'best novice' awards. If any player or group of players wishes to stage an 'overall tournie' of some kind. I would be only too pleased to help and advise - I already know how much fun it is and I think it is best to be as 'inclusive' as possible of all ages and standards .... lets keep talking (and practising ;-) Cheers, Sam. PS I would highly recommend the newly produced instructional video from the Freestyle Players Association (FPA) - see their website for details. >Thanks! > >Yeah, I love DDC, and I used to enjoy MTA (although I'm crap at it!). > >Hmm, maybe these comment should go on britdisc, but anyway:(!) > >I had another quick look at your original posting, and I wonder if there are >other people like me who might be a bit 'intimidated' (is that the right >word?) by going to an overall tourney and pretending we can do things like >freestyle(!) (I can't, although I know practice makes perfect). But it >_would_ be great fun to go and have a go at some of these events (at least >the ones that I think I might not make a _complete_ arse of myself at!). > >What do you reckon? > >Mike. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Neilson >To: Michael Beaton >Date: Friday, 23 July 1999 01:00 >Subject: Re: "Overalls" are not only for DIY enthusiasts! > > >>>Sam, >>> >>>Have you got a copy of an official set of rules for DDC? It's a while >since >>>a learnt if off Glyn (Lewis), and everyone I know has a slightly different >>>version of rules like "angle", "when are the disks dead?" and "is on the >>>line in or out?" >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Mike (Sharks) >> >>There is no better starting place for all DDC matters than Conrad Damon's >>website: >> >> http://www.stanford.edu/~damon/ddc/ >> >>Incidentally, I met Conrad in Sweden and he is a great guy who played >>superb in almost every event. He won DDC with Harvey Brandt and finished >>2nd in overall! I'm sure he would point out that its good to know the >>rules, but its more important to get out and play (any variation of) DDC! >> >>Have fun and let me know how you get on. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Sam >> >>PS Judging by the responses so far, there may be a revival of interest in >>many or all of the individual events - I can hardly wait for the >>announcement of the next British Overall Championships! >> >> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 14:01:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21734 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:00:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21711; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:00:03 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:02:06 +0100 To: From: Dave Neilson Subject: RE: "Overalls" are not only for DIY enthusiasts! Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Cc: to britdisc for general info >hey sam, > >where can I procure some ddc discs, and a rope/peg court? (or the dimesions >so I can Blue peter one myself) > >harv > >calling himself a contenda for da overall!! First, check out Conrad Damon's website: http://www.stanford.edu/~damon/ddc/ As far as discs are concerned, you can get by fine with Ulty discs but if you want the real McCoy you can obtain them from Discovering The World and a few other places. If you want a local (UK) supply - the only possibility might be Charlie Mead (since he organised the last major international Overall tournament here). You can buy courts, but the DIY approach is probably cheaper and well within the technical grasp of most people (but remember "Overalls" are not only for DIY enthusiasts!). Again, I believe Conrad's page covers this sort of topic. Have fun and let me know how you get on. Cheers, Sam From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 15:52:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07184 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:51:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07169 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:51:25 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:53:25 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Some Recent Overall Results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [If you are not sure what "Overalls" are, see the earlier posting!] This summer I have been fortunate enough to take part in not one, but two World Overall Championships - several people have asked how I got on, so I hope posting my personal results is not viewed as too immodest ;-P [1] The "World Masters" were held in St Cloud, Minnesota, USA (June 1999). This annual event is for competitors aged 35 and over - it regularly attracts players in their sixties and seventies ... that's "years of age" rather than "total taking part"! But make no mistake, the competition is fierce while extremely friendly. Players are separated into their age divisions as follows: Masters: 35 - 44 Grand Masters: 45 - 54 Senior Grand Masters: 55 - 64 Legends: 65 and over! In the Masters division there were about 25 competitors - my performances were as follows: 1-Accuracy 10+14 (two rounds cumulative) = 7th [could (should) have reached the final] 2-Discathon 6:32 4th place -> SEMI[20] 6:20 (fastest second place finisher) 5th place -> FINAL[5] 6:31 3rd [had serious chance of winning] 3-Disc Golf 59+54+53 (three rounds cumulative) 11th [should have done a fair bit better] 4-Distance 167m[*] + 153m (two rounds cumulative) 1st place -> FINAL[5] 138m 3rd [really should have won, but as for SCF arm & body too knackered by Saturday] 5-DDC found local partner; won 1 & lost 5 7th [my partner had never played before] 6-Freestyle found local partner, but played poorly = 7th [probably my weakest event] 7-SCF (MTA+TRC) 7.99s + 52m + 8.17s + 46m (two rounds) 2nd place -> FINAL[5] (FINAL) 10.37s + 38m 4th [arm & body too knackered by Saturday] OVERALL (combining results from all 7 events) 5th [*] New personal best - beating my previous best of 164m set in 1992! Results and photographs can be viewed at the event website: http://www.dtworld.com/masters.htm ====================================================================== [2] The "WFDF World Overalls" were held in Kalmar, Sweden (July 1999). This event happens roughly once every two years and is open to all comers - i.e. there are no age restrictions! A number of the USA Masters players persuaded me to attend this year since they expected it would be particularly well attended - they were not wrong! The divisions on offer were as follows: Open: no restrictions Women: no age limits In the Open division there were about 100 competitors from 12 nations - my performances were as follows: 1-Accuracy 9 (I didn't make 2nd round!) =53rd [no real excuse, but the 8am start was tough!] 2-Discathon 5:54 + 6:16 16th place -> SEMI[16] 5:26 7th [better than I could have dreamed!] 3-Disc Golf 48 + 52 (two rounds cumulative) =14th place -> SEMI[16] +25 (extra 9 holes also cumulative) 14th [overjoyed to make the semi!] 4-Distance 157.0m + 141.0m (two rounds cumulative) 8th place -> SEMI[10] 141.0m = 6th [missed out on the final by 5 metres!] 5-DDC with local partner, Bobbo Karlsson won 2 [+2 walk-overs] & lost 11 18th [we won some crucial games in a high calibre field - gained good experience] 6-Freestyle with USA partner, Dan "Stork" Roddick =19th [Stork's mastery certainly saved me we finished with a rare "Flamingo F***"] 7-SCF (MTA+TRC) 12.46s[@] + 57.00m + 8.89s + 26.35m 23rd [poor second round meant I missed the semi] OVERALL (combining results from all 7 events) 14th [@] New personal best - also the best MTA of the whole week and allegedly a new British Record (beating Derek Robins' 12.44s set many moons ago)! Final results (and maybe photographs) can be viewed at the event website: http://www.kfk.org/wfdf-99/ ====================================================================== And now that my throwing arm is all warmed up, I'm off to the World Ultimate Club Championships in St Andrews with Chevron Action Flash. In addition to being their token "old git" (I prefer "STM"), I imagine that I will be keeping their water bottles filled - its the least I can do since I spend most of my time ripping the p*** out of them ;-) The rumour that I am the Chevron player "most likely to pull" is perhaps only partially true ;-} Thanks for reading this far. Hope you're enjoying the summer. Cheers, Sam Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 23 18:18:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24177 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:17:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24165 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:17:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05548 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:17:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.023 #2) id 117iwu-0004vW-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:17:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:21:28 +0100 Subject: sleeping bag From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all Did any of you lose a black sleeping bag with black stuffit straps attached? It appeared in our minibus after Exeter Tour 5 and doesn't seem to belong to any of us. Dora Strange Blue From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 07:48:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17163 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17158 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09693 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA11643 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199907260647.HAA11643@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 31st July 1999 WUCC 99 Tune up tournament (2 days) @ Trent Park, London [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Colin Wagstaff Comment By Invitation Only Email Colin.Wagstaff@EULERGroup.com Phone 0181 360 8816 (home) 0171 860 2630 (work) Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 07775 197169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 11:05:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04643 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:03:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04637 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:03:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f313.hotmail.com [209.185.131.17]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA24409 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:03:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 95692 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 1999 10:03:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19990726100310.95691.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.212.5.4 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:03:10 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.212.5.4] From: "Jonathan Sinclair" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lost Phone at Ross Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:03:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone pick up a Nokia mobile phone after the final at Ross? It has a bluey grey cover. Cheers sky (doughboy) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 12:28:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15774 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:24:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15766 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:24:08 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04031 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:24:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:24:15 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15056; Mon, 26 Jul 99 12:24:12 BST Message-Id: <9907261124.AA15056@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:24:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Rostered/Unrostered Teams X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One of the Wyld Stallyns boys has asked me to put this out, does anyone know which of the teams which have finished in the top 16 over the tour are unrostered as they're a bit concerned over whether they'll fall foul of the 2 unrostered teams limitation for national qualifying. Particularly interested in knowing the status of Headrush and Strange Blue as they think they know the rest, Pete From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 12:52:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19313 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19306 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28860 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:37 +0100 Received: from [137.222.156.56] (langah21.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.56]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA10896 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:22 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ankle braces Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:50:03 +0000 Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for MacPPC Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Vaguely remember somebody at ross asking me where to get ankle braces. Sportset (01202 548648) do mail order on a hinged brace called active ankle costing GBP33 or so. They've usually got them in stock, so are delivered pretty prompt. There used to be an ok sports injury clinic in ebinburgh that also sold lots of orthopaedic supports. I've no longer got the number, but perhaps some of the scottish lot might know. Rafi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 14:03:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28425 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:02:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28419 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:02:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01911 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:02:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:01:20 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:01:42 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED519@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: BritDisc , "'p.m.connor@open.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:01:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dora and Myself will check this out and produce a final list for Nationals qualification by the end of the week. Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk[SMTP:p.m.connor@open.ac.uk] > Sent: 26 July 1999 12:24 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > One of the Wyld Stallyns boys has asked me to put this out, does > anyone know which of the teams which have finished in the top 16 > over the tour are unrostered as they're a bit concerned over whether > they'll fall foul of the 2 unrostered teams limitation for national > qualifying. Particularly interested in knowing the status of > Headrush and Strange Blue as they think they know the rest, > > Pete > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 26 21:44:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20131 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:43:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20125 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:43:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09455 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:43:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 118raO-0007f6-0A; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:43:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:02:27 +0100 To: BritDisc , EuroDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Results - Ross on Wye 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ross on Wye (International) Ultimate Tournament 24 + 25 July 1999 SPIRIT OF THE GAME Les Vieux Invalides (Paris) MVP of the FINAL Declan from Dough Boy TROPHY 1 Dough Boy 2 Catch 22 3 Feral (Australia) 4 Fluid Druids 5 Blue Arse Flies 6 S.O.U.P. 7 Les Vieux Invalides (Paris) 8 Overflow PLATE 9 Whiplash 10 Fingers 6 ReUnion 11 Pookas (Dublin) 12 Bliss 13 Nightfever 14 Albatross 15 Smudge 16 Slipdisc SPOON 17 Pornstars 18 Wolverhampton Rejects ReUnion 19 Twin Peaks 20 Old Trouts 21 Mild Mannered Janitors 22 Bradford Old Boys 23 Gael Force 24 Four Non Blondes Thanks to: all the teams that attended; the extra players that came along and picked up; the catering crew (Heidi, Chris, Charlotte + Tom) for the all day BBQ; Adam and Neil for their pretourney work, and the rest of the Druids for picking up everybody else's trash! Wayne on behalf of the Fluid Druids PS: LOST + FOUND Sky (Dough Boy) - no mobile phone Piers (Feral) - no watch We DO have: Tan "Hook-Ups" combat trousers; Levi's cap; WFDF WUCC97 cap; "Strange Blue" T; "Argasi" sun hat; UK size 4 mercury trainers; "Halston" pouch ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter In charge of what happened on the day Ross on Wye 99 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 27 17:00:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11032 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:58:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11022 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:58:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04707; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:58:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 27 Jul 99 16:55:00 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 27 Jul 99 16:54:53 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, eurodisc@ira.uka.de Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:54:51 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Disc Golf: British Open CC: bdga@egroups.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <1A2512970BCD@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The 21st British Open Disc Golf Championships were held at Whitcombe Farm in Dorset on 24-25th July. The weather was glorious and the course was in fine condtion for the 50 competitors, including players from France, Switzerland, Germany and Austria. Hopefully Toby will post the full results but here are the top ten placings: - 1st Derek Robins (200 pounds) 2nd = Sean Young and Mark Broghammer (Germany) (121 pounds each) 4th Liam Young (70 pounds) 5th Charlie Mead (50 pounds) 6th Ricky Dietrich (40 pounds) 7th Steve Scarborough (30 pounds) 8th = Sam Neilson, Jim Edwards and Neil Halliday Womens Champion - Ruth Steele (50 pounds) Junior Champion - Daniel Luton (3 discs) Many thanks to Dr David Lenihan for his sponsorship of the event and to his colleagues who also provided free chiropractic treatment to players during the weekend. Next stop on the British Tour is the Caledonian Open (50 mins north of Edinburgh) on August 21/22. Beginners very welcome. Check out www.discgolf.co.uk or www.ultimateweb.co.uk/bdga Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 27 18:05:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19101 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:04:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19091 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:04:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.48]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09847 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:04:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.023 #2) id 119Ae1-0001Tw-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:04:01 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:08:00 +0100 Subject: sleeping bags From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all The Exeter sleeping bag saga continues. Jonathan Hope lost a maroon sleeping bag in a black sack and I found a black sleeping bag (with green interior) in a black stuffit sack with canvas straps. Has anyone found Jon's instead of their own? It may have been dropped in the car park or by the tents. Dora From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 27 21:11:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08066 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:10:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08060 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:10:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19722 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:10:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA22671 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:10:20 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.254.87) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma022626; Tue, 27 Jul 99 21:09:21 +0100 Received: by kevinl133 with Microsoft Mail id <01BED874.78BB4F60@kevinl133>; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:10:36 +0100 Message-ID: <01BED874.78BB4F60@kevinl133> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Rubbish! Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:03:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA08061 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Just trying to spark a discussion on one of the biggest problems about running a tournament. I really don't mind spending most of my day running around filling up water containers because the fields are so poorly equipped, that's what you accept when you book them. What does really annoy me though is the sheer mess left at the end of each day around the pitches, and the camping area. If it wasn't for the hard work of volunteers in clearing up tournaments like Exeter, Ross-on-Wye, etc. we would lose these venues. I would have loved to have seen more than 2 points of the UTI - Catch 22 final, but I couldn't because of the amount of rubbish left everywhere that had to be cleared before I could drive 250 miles home again. There really is no excuse for it. Black bin liners were everywhere (almost), so why didn't more rubbish make its way into them? If anyone has any ideas how to tackle this problem, then please suggest something. We try and keep tournaments as cheap as possible, but we are going to have to look at employing people to clear up after us. Sorry if I sound pissed off, but I am. Kevin (& Jennie) |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | email me. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 27 23:33:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA20649 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:31:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20644 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:31:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25473 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:31:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-015.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.15]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA15363 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:29:47 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002901bed880$49802160$0fa492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Re: Rubbish! Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:25:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Perhaps we need some proper rubbish bins for the bigger events? Can one not get some sort of frame/ring type thing which holds up a bin liner more visibly? Next BUF purchase? Alternatively, write "endzone" on a skip and see what happens! Ben -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Lowe To: 'Britdisc' Date: 27 July 1999 21:13 Subject: Rubbish! >Hi, > >Just trying to spark a discussion on one of the biggest problems about running a tournament. I really don't mind spending most of my day running around filling up water containers because the fields are so poorly equipped, that's what you accept when you book them. > >What does really annoy me though is the sheer mess left at the end of each day around the pitches, and the camping area. If it wasn't for the hard work of volunteers in clearing up tournaments like Exeter, Ross-on-Wye, etc. we would lose these venues. > >I would have loved to have seen more than 2 points of the UTI - Catch 22 final, but I couldn't because of the amount of rubbish left everywhere that had to be cleared before I could drive 250 miles home again. There really is no excuse for it. Black bin liners were everywhere (almost), so why didn't more rubbish make its way into them? > >If anyone has any ideas how to tackle this problem, then please suggest something. We try and keep tournaments as cheap as possible, but we are going to have to look at employing people to clear up after us. > >Sorry if I sound pissed off, but I am. > >Kevin (& Jennie) >|-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >| Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 >| >| If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and >| never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you >| are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, >| email me. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 28 09:31:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01044 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:30:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01038 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:30:16 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BED874.78BB4F60@kevinl133> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:32:16 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Rubbish! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [RUBBISH TIDIED UP] >If anyone has any ideas how to tackle this problem, then please suggest >something. We try and keep tournaments as cheap as possible, but we are >going to have to look at employing people to clear up after us. [TRASH TALK CLEANED AWAY] >Kevin (& Jennie) [LEFT OVER ADVERTISING MATERIAL DISPOSED OF] It used to be one of the boasts of disc event organisers that the friendly folk who play disc (Ultimate AND Disc Golf) actually leave the fields and courses tidier than they were before the event started. But all has changed in recent years and we are (almost) as bad as the general sporting public. One method worth exploring might be to provide (one or more) black bin liners to each team and offer a financial reward for every full or part full bag returned at the end of the tournament. From a budget point of view it would be childsplay to factor in the cost of the 'rewards' ... that way the teams that fill most bags reap the biggest financial rewards (right out of the pockets of the lazy sods who don't clean up after themselves ;-)! The same system can work on a 'no-money-prizes' competition basis, where the most rubbish collected wins some small token of gratitude (beer or a cuddly toy). It seems sad to have to pay people to clear up after themselves, but I still think it is better than buying people in to do the same job. 'Proper bins' are no answer either - its an 'attitude' thing IMHO. Sam "talking rubbish as always" Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 28 13:00:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06814 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:59:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06808 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:59:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from www2.xoommail.com (colo01-033.xoom.com [206.132.179.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14496 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:59:32 +0100 (BST) Received: (from service@localhost) by www2.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11195; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:59:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:59:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199907281159.EAA11195@www2.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: mta99@bigfoot.com Subject: load of rubbish To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well, why not ensure that one member of each team is responsible for disposing of a bag of rubbish at the end of each day, for arguments sake, the team captain as this person *theoretically* has most clout over the rest of his team. When Skip calls in to give in the days results then (let's be aggressive about this) don't accept the results until a convincing amount of sh*t is handed over. Rubbish for results, fair trade! And I don't think that saying 'oh my team are the cleanest team in history, we don't make rubbish' will work as every team member brings crips, biscuits, bananas, oranges, Lucozade, Wham bars, all in some sort of wrapper. In a team of 12 that is a convincing amount over the day. So all teams will need to hand a bag over. Or straight to bed, no party! Get tough on this, its no effort to stay clean. *Only dirty people wash, however* Mal. SlipDisc. mta99@bigfoot.com Finally a real address ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 28 19:41:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05868 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:39:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05863 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:39:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA14793 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:39:51 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7564 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 18:39:50 -0000 Received: from userl727.uk.uudial.com (HELO dial.pipex.com) (193.149.76.32) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 18:39:50 -0000 Message-ID: <379AC11D.2E696EA6@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:47:41 +0100 From: Richard Robert Hims X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BRITDISC Subject: Some unwanted blades for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I bought some size 11 Adidas [Quattro, Tiempo?] blades just before Ross, and then found, whilst playing in them, that they were much too big and I stacked it [slipped over] whenever I tried to turn a tight corner. They've only had about nine hours play in total , and are still in pretty damn good nick, but, like I said, they're too big for me. Any offers [I bought them for forty quid, so, I dunno, thirty would be nice] would be appreciated. While I'm writing, if anyone can suggest a decent mail order where I can get size ten-and-a-half blades or astros, that'd also be cool. Cheers, and apologies to those to who this message doesn't apply -- Rich, Janitors richard.hims@dial.pipex.com vik.hims@cwcom.net vik-rich@iname.com rich-vik@iname.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 28 23:55:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02560 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:54:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02545 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:54:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28628 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:54:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 119caI-0007D6-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:54:02 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:46:57 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: ...Hugga Bugga... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Headrush The BUF Tax for a non Tour tournament is only a tenner! Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 29 00:51:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20326 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:50:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20320 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:50:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f27.hotmail.com [209.185.131.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA01826 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:49:59 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 20519 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 1999 23:49:27 -0000 Message-ID: <19990728234927.20518.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.154.107.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:49:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.154.107.185] From: "Simon Brasse" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Diablo loses first game in style Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:49:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thank you to thoses who played for the latest team to emerge from south London last Thursday. Diablo lost 15 - 4 but were 2 - 1 up at one stage. It was fun and there was a lot of potential on display. We will be goiung to Bristol Fiesta (21st August) and the open national tounement (September 16). If anyone would like to join us then come to the open session on Clampham common tommorow by Clapham south tube and bring some money. I must sign the team up this Friday so bring cash or you can't come. Best wishes to all Simon Brasse (RED BULL) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 29 08:53:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23242 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:52:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23157; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:51:55 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:53:44 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: BUF diary / britdisc Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to remind the britdisc readers and contributors about Ralf's parting remarks: "I've left Sammy in charge whilst I'm away, so can you please field diary related stuff to him. He's also doing the majordomo admin stuff for britdisc, although you can all help to reduce the amount of work he has to do here. Some tips for britdisc: o Don't post things that look like commands. e.g. a subject or very short mail containing things like "help", "unsubscribe", "remove" etc. o Don't post large things, especially not over 40K. MS Word attachments are a definite no-no. If you want to post large things, use plain text or put things up on a web-site and provide a URL. o Subscribe / unsubscribe by sending mail to majordomo@csv.warwick.ac.uk with the following text in the body: subscribe britdisc or unsubscribe britdisc Don't make up other variations, or just mail Sammy. Do it properly, and it'll all happen automatically. If you're changing mail addresses, unsubscribe from your old address by sending a mail from that account if you can. If this isn't possible, use the form: unsubscribe britdisc old@email.address which will require approval. o Send diary related stuff to Sammy, serai@csv.warwick.ac.uk o Above all, have fun! Cheers, and have a good year, one and all... Ralf" ================================================= I don't mind helping out those in a genuine difficulty, but you could help me a lot by helping yourself ... if you see what I mean ;-) Sammy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 29 12:01:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19647 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:59:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19639 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:59:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f121.hotmail.com [216.32.181.121]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA07520 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:59:44 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 93455 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jul 1999 10:59:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990729105913.93454.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.6.126.237 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:59:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.6.126.237] From: "Peter James Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Worlds on Sky? Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:59:13 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I heard that SKY would be showing highlights from Worlds, is that right? Pete (Phat'eds and DSM) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 29 12:26:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23899 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:24:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23894 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:24:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17301; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:24:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 29 Jul 99 12:21:16 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 29 Jul 99 12:20:53 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, eurodisc@ira.uka.de Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:20:50 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Disc Golf on TV - Trans-World Sport X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <1A5082BA68C7@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Disc Golf on TV Trans world Sport was filming at the British Open on 25th July and this should go out this weekend to 130 countries. I believe that the programme starts at 8 a.m. on Saturday morning on Channel 4 in the UK. Derek *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 29 18:21:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14623 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:20:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14614 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:20:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21271 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:20:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from dante07.u.washington.edu (cpage@dante07.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.9]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA15558 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:20:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (cpage@localhost) by dante07.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA60870 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:20:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Page" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: travelers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, My name is Chris Page, I'm an ultimate player from Seattle (have played on Sockeye for 6 or 7 years) and got this email address from Roger Thomson, who was unable to help us. I am landing at Heathrow en route to St. Andrews on the evening of August 4, and am writing to inquire about the possibility of finding floor space for three people, possibly four, for that evening only. Any help you might be able provide would be most appreciated. looking forward, Chris Page Coordinator, Green/Duwamish Watershed Alliance {><(('> {><(('> {><(('> {><(('> Master of Public Administration, Daniel J. Evans School of Public Affairs From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 30 00:33:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28660 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:32:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28655 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:32:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f150.hotmail.com [216.32.181.150]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA07523 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:32:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 86543 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jul 1999 23:31:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990729233129.86542.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.8.77.55 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:31:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.8.77.55] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: In need of practice Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:31:29 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm a student in Banbury looking for a local team to practice with before going off to the US late September. I've practiced with both Strange Blue and Superfly whilst at uni., but now it seems the nearest team will be in Oxford, 1/2hr away. If anyone can help a trainee player with no-one to throw to (even a dog!) please get in touch. Cheers Antony ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 30 11:57:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16522 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:55:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16508 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:55:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19597 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:55:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow (pow.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.132]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA11125 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:51:22 GMT Message-Id: <199907301051.KAA11125@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:59:36 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: whatisultimate.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk www.whatisultimate.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 30 15:45:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15825 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:43:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15816 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:43:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10093 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:43:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:44:26 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:49:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: London League 99 - the end Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:44:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick word to say that the first London Summer League was wrapped up this week with the 5th game in the round robin. Big thanks due to Paul Hurt, organiser supreme, for all his efforts to make it work, from when he first put feelers out back in early May through to getting a great deal on bubbly for the presentation ceremony. Cheers, Paul. Some time soon (come on Paul, you lazy sod - get your act together!) the website http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ will be updated but for now here's what you need to know. Final league placings: 1 Strawberry Jam 2 Wyld Stallyns 3 Disco Volante 4 G-Spots 5 Spin on This 6 Thermal Corridor Spirit - joint winners Disco Volante & Spin on This Oh how the Sainsburys Cava flowed! Roll on an expanded Summer League 2000 Cheers Wayne Disco Volante (London) Albatross (UK) Overflow (World!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 30 22:02:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18859 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:00:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18852 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:00:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (web218.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.118]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA17262 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:00:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990730205901.2116.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.69.244.232] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:59:01 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David Williams Subject: anyone playing ultimate on aug 4 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk my name is david williams aka. stick.i currently play for burning ring of fire from raleigh, N.C. usa. i'm looking for any opportunity to play ultimate on aug 4. i would like to get some running in before worlds begins. my flight arrives that morning and the people sharing my rental car do not arrive until 10pm that night. if anyone is playing/practicing and wouldn't mind an extra player please e-mail directions or a phone number to get directions from heathrow thanks stick e-mail is stick_ring@yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 31 19:09:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01727 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:07:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01721 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:07:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15924 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:07:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AdY2-000B5G-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:25:52 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: ...Hugga Bugga... References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Dear Headrush It seems I must apologise... >The BUF Tax for a non Tour tournament is only a tenner! ...the BUF's BUF (Big Ugly Fing !?!) rang me, and said "actually, it's TWELVE, has been for a while now..." So, thanks to Chris, sorry to Headrush (and the rest of you that think this is more than a little inane!) Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 1 10:56:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27527 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:52:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27522 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:52:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd106.hotmail.com [207.82.252.170]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14017 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:52:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 70831 invoked by uid 0); 1 Aug 1999 09:52:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19990801095211.70830.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.152.248.177 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:52:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.152.248.177] From: "Vanessa White" To: Briar.Mackenzie@intl.pepsi.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com Subject: Women's Practices Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 02:52:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There will be NO womens practices on Monday's in Regents Park for the whole of August. Thanks Vanessa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 1 11:32:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00018 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:31:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00012 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:31:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00647 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:31:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Astg-000DFa-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:31:16 +0000 Subject: Re: London League 99 - the end Date: Sun, 1 Aug 99 11:33:01 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "'Britdisc'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Oh how the Sainsburys Cava flowed! The winners got something considerably more expensive! (bottle of Mumm - which is the real thing by comparison). Am I saying I think winning is more important than spirit? No, I'm just saying that I couldn't afford *2* bottles of champagne - sorry! Thanks everyone who played in the League - it's mostly down to your determination to keep showing up that it all actually worked out. Glad everyone enjoyed it. Here's to next year. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 1 23:48:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07322 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:46:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07316 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:46:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21812 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:46:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-014.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.14]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA20229 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:43:16 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001701bedc70$1cee9c00$0ea492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: BUF Website Updated Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:42:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf The new BUF website is finally finished . Its a victory of content over style I'm afraid! All comments, criticisms, suggestions gladly accepted. Oh and tell me if the colours look OK - I'm a bit colourblind! If anyone wants to offer to tart it up a little then please tell me. I expect there will be some updates to the contact database so please email them to buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary PS - thanks due to Scott for help with the website. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 07:48:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00988 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00982 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27265 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA18885 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199908020647.HAA18885@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Sunday 8th August 1999 World Clubs (7 days) @ St Andrews, Scotland [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/ Saturday 8th through to 14th August 1999. Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 0777 591 7169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 13:58:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12165 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:56:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12159 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:56:22 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17998 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:56:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05513 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:50:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10991 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:01:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id JAA110830 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:59:21 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:59:11 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002501bed76c$f3b640c0$fde293c3@Richie> Subject: Re: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA12160 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Welcome to the LURKERS experience. We are hosting a fairwell tournament on the 28 & 29th August. There is space for 24 teams and the places will be allocated on a first cheque basis. I will NOT hold places, I cannot afford it. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 14:19:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15654 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:18:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15646 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:18:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f44.hotmail.com [207.82.250.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18922 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:18:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 12793 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 1999 13:17:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990802131756.12792.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.71.32.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 06:17:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.71.32.53] From: "samuel rey" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: STUDENT RECRUITMENT Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 06:17:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk HI I SAY A MAIL ASKING FOR INFO ON RECRUITING STUDENTS, HERE IN NOTTINGHAM, WE ARE PUTTING OUR FRESHERS PACKAGE TOGETHER NOW. ANY USEFUL INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED THANX SAM ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 14:28:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17120 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:27:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17113 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:27:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd125.hotmail.com [207.82.252.189]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13039 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:27:42 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 64736 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 1999 13:27:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990802132707.64735.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.204 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 06:27:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.204] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to St. A's Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 06:27:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone trvelling to St. Andrews either Friday night or Saturday morning have space. If you do please contact me. on 0171 616 4819 (wk) or 0181 6634856. Thanks Vanessa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 15:38:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26415 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:37:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26410 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:37:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay03.netaddress.usa.net (relay03.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.183]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA23717 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:37:25 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 10149 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 14:37:23 -0000 Received: from nw176.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.76) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 14:37:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 5009 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 1999 14:37:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990802143719.5008.qmail@nw176.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.76 by nw176 via web-mailer(M3.2.0.53) on Mon Aug 2 14:37:19 GMT 1999 Date: 2 Aug 99 08:37:19 MDT From: "T.O'Leary" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hitch Hiking X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.2.0.53) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA26411 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, Anyone driving up to Worlds (or Glasgow)from London on the 5th or the 6th of August? Any advice on hitch hiking? Tim O'Leary ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 15:50:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28209 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:49:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28202 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:49:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20170 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:49:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from cs.bris.ac.uk (actually host luna.cs.bris.ac.uk) by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:49:45 +0100 Received: from hula.cs.bris.ac.uk (hula [137.222.102.117]) by cs.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25670 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:49:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by hula.cs.bris.ac.uk (8.8.7) id PAA04535; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:49:26 +0100 (BST) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Fiesta! 1999 Reply-To: lafave@cs.bris.ac.uk Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:49:26 +0100 Message-ID: <4534.933605366@hula> From: Laura Lafave Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nevermind the eclipse... come to the Fiesta instead ! [Less traffic and you will still get that end-of-the-world feeling... -ed.] The HeadRush Fiesta! tournament will be held 21-22 August 1999. The details are as last year... lush pitches, on-site food/drink/etc, first aid facilities, free camping at the Bungalow Inn on the Friday and/or Saturday, and party with all the trimmings. And as always, there will be a *new* competition to determine the first games on Sunday. Of course, the world-renown Tequila-slam-a-thon is included in the price. Spaces will be allocated as the cheques hit Andrew's doormat. Sorry, we can't reserve any spaces this year. Send your cheque for 100 pounds made out to "HeadRush Ultimate" to: Andrew Orr-Ewing 46 Alma Court, Alma Vale Road, Clifton, Bristol BS8 2HJ If we can send the information electronically to your team, please send us a contact email address with your money. Further details will be available via the HeadRush website asap. www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~lafave/ultimate/headrush.html Any questions? Please email Andrew : A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk See you there, Laura From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 2 16:56:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07697 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:55:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07690 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:55:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26119 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:55:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11BKQp-0003Wv-0K; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:55:19 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:46:03 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF46C2@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'UTI'" Subject: Trent Park Warm Up to WUCC 99 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:45:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Some of you may have noticed on the BUF Calendar there was a warm up tournament for WUCC last week-end held at Trent Park, London. This saw the Australian and Kiwi teams participating at World Clubs next week come up against each other, UTI in the open and, 4 Non Blondes and Bliss in the Womens divisions. Whilst the tourney was a resounding success it was a shame more British teams competing at WUCC this year didn't take up the opportunity of getting in some last minute practice against international opposition. Anyway, there was interest from Carlton TV to do a production. Filming included the game UTI against King Brown (AUS) and 4 Non Blondes against Seven Green Bottles (AUS). They also filmed three people doing a kind of flight test of three discs, the ubiquitous Ultrastar and two 'fun' discs from Wham - O. There were interviews with some players from down under and our very own National Director, Laura Pearce. The footage is currently being edited and is due to be aired this Thursday between 5:30 and 6:30pm on the Carlton digital channel, Carlton World. The programme is called Raw TV. If anyone manages to catch the show please let me know what you think. Thanks, Colin. UTI From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 3 08:15:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA20190 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:14:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20180 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:14:25 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21252 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:14:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10400 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26622 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id IAA64900 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:13:51 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:13:37 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id IAA20182 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Web site now available: http://www.intelcities.com/Athletic_Ave/clifford_bottomley/lurker1.htm cliff ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 Author: Clifford Bottomley at cobo Date: 02/08/1999 09:58 Welcome to the LURKERS experience. We are hosting a fairwell tournament on the 28 & 29th August. There is space for 24 teams and the places will be allocated on a first cheque basis. I will NOT hold places, I cannot afford it. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 3 09:44:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27348 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:43:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27342 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:43:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA25203 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:43:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 29425 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 08:43:42 -0000 Received: from userp131.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.91.130) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 08:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <002601bedcfa$20e3fe60$825b95c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: References: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF46C2@LONSEX02> Subject: Re: Trent Park Warm Up to WUCC 99 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:16:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On a similar theme, I was wondering what footage from worlds will be on over the next few weeks. I have access to terrestrial and Satellite an would like to know if anyone has any details on programs featuring worlds? I was also wondering if there will be daily results posted on E-Mail, any web sites or newspapers? Finally I was wondering if the daily magazine from worlds would be posted on-line? I hope someone out there has some of this information. Thanks in advance, Matt Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] To: 'Britdisc' Cc: 'UTI' Sent: 02 August 1999 16:45 Subject: Trent Park Warm Up to WUCC 99 > Some of you may have noticed on the BUF Calendar there was a warm up > tournament for WUCC last week-end held at Trent Park, London. > > This saw the Australian and Kiwi teams participating at World Clubs next > week come up against each other, UTI in the open and, 4 Non Blondes and > Bliss in the Womens divisions. > > Whilst the tourney was a resounding success it was a shame more British > teams competing at WUCC this year didn't take up the opportunity of getting > in some last minute practice against international opposition. > > Anyway, there was interest from Carlton TV to do a production. Filming > included the game UTI against King Brown (AUS) and 4 Non Blondes against > Seven Green Bottles (AUS). They also filmed three people doing a kind of > flight test of three discs, the ubiquitous Ultrastar and two 'fun' discs > from Wham - O. There were interviews with some players from down under and > our very own National Director, Laura Pearce. > > The footage is currently being edited and is due to be aired this Thursday > between 5:30 and 6:30pm on the Carlton digital channel, Carlton World. The > programme is called Raw TV. > > If anyone manages to catch the show please let me know what you think. > > Thanks, > Colin. > UTI From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 3 11:01:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07053 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:59:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07045 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:59:37 +0100 (BST) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02637; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:59:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id LAA23524; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:59:28 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma023522; Tue, 3 Aug 99 11:59:28 +0200 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA23693; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:59:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from EHLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (ehlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.139.54.212]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA27930; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:59:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EHLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA3 id 0056890004652890; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:59:27 +0200 To: Cc: , Subject: Re: Trent Park Warm Up to WUCC 99 Message-ID: <0056890004652890000002L902*@MHS> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:59:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 08/03/99 11:58:57" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA07046 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I would just like to thank Colin & Meika for arranging the tournament & schedule. Also the other participating teams, for making the effort, I know we valued the practice & I hope the other teams feel the same way. Hannah ( Bliss ) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 3 13:24:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25043 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:23:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25033 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:23:08 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:25:02 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Jester Bit" Subject: Ultimate in the Big Issue Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Issue 232, July 29 - August 4, of the Big Issue in Scotland has the double page report BI said they would publish. I'm not going to type it all out but here are a few highlights: "American football without the ball" Ultimate is a serious sport: you play it with a Frisbee, you can sacrifice cakes before games[?], wear grass skirts on the pitch and take sofas for the substitutes. It's serious all right: serious fun - and the Big Issue in Scotland's sister charity is set to benefit. If you head for the pitches around St Andrews university next week, be prepared to witness some peculiar goings on. People will be 'going ho' (horizontal), some may 'moose'[?], they'll be giving it plenty of Zs and you could even winess a circle of death. Yadda yadda yadda Ultimate yadda Cult sport yadda WUCC99 yadda Not Frisbee, flying disc yadda Two teams of seven yadda Endzones yadda. Dave grayson is the Captain of the team carrying Scottish hopes into WUCC99. "I could never get to grips with football or rugby," says Dave. "I could never get the hang of pulling someone's jersey or kicking theier ankles. I wasn't good at any of that." [Dave will have his knitting taken away from him and undergo 'Corrective Re-Education' to turn him back into the disc hungry D machine we know and love before Worlds] Yadda yadda yadda No referees yadda Sport on the rise in Scotland yadda Spirit yadda Fund raising for BI yadda. According to the organisers, the pairing [of Ultimate & the BI] is ideal. Jon Hope, spokesman for WUCC99 explains "We think the charity, its ethos and the image of the BI are all highly compatible with Ultimate's dynamicism and emphasis on self relience and spirit." Yadda the rest of teh article stresses how Ultimate wants to be taken seriously but not lose the fun element. A good article overall, and a nice pic of Dave (attachment too large to be sent to britdisc - please contact Jester if would like a copy sent to you directly) but unfortunately they haven't printed any details of how to contact anyone invovled in Ultimate in the UK along side it e.g. the BUF URL? If you turn a few pages though you do get a full page ad in colour for WUCC with a nice pic of DoG v Sweden, the WUCC99 URL and a St Andrews phone number (which I guess is the Uni's). Good work fellas and respect to Jon and Tara for getting this coverage. Bes* Jes* "Jester Bit" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 3 17:12:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24949 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:11:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24943 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail08.prontomail.com (prontomail8.prontomail.com [209.185.149.108] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18015 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:11:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from darroch_reid (209.185.149.229) by mail08.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:07:09 -0700 From: "Possum" Message-Id: <199908030907412@darroch_reid.looksmart.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:07:41 -0800 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Visitor passes for World's X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA24944 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do anyone know how much and where I can get visitors' passes for Worlds? There hasn't been any mail on for the last couple of weeks, any ideas? Thanks Possum. LookSmart … or keep looking. http://www.looksmart.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 3 19:12:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06491 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:10:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06483 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:10:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from web109.yahoomail.com (web109.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.76]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA06639 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:10:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990803181112.2579.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.250.130.177] by web109.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:11:12 PDT Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Wobwrong Subject: Fresh attraction To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc, In response to Samuel Rey's mail: Here at Far Flung in Glasgow Uni we have a multi-level approach to attracting freshers: -have all your smiliest people at the freshers fair (cue the now infamous Dave G) -have the strip ready to but, including the shorts if you have any. Ours are new for '99. -do a demonstration event in some park on campus or other public place. Have the smiliey people handing out leaflets to the gawping crowds. -in the first couple of practises, make the pace very laid back and fun. There is nothing worse than aggro with a frisbee to scare people off. -tell the new recruits to "bring a friend" to the next practise. Good luck for the new term. Sorry for wasting your time if you have graduated already. Cheers people, Bryce Renwick Captain of Far Flung, Ultimate at Glasgow Universtiy --- samuel rey wrote: > HI > > I SAY A MAIL ASKING FOR INFO ON RECRUITING STUDENTS, > > HERE IN NOTTINGHAM, WE ARE PUTTING OUR FRESHERS > PACKAGE TOGETHER NOW. ANY > USEFUL INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED > > THANX > > SAM > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > === What did the bhuddist say when he walked into the pizza shop? "Make me one with everything..." _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 4 16:59:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04545 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:57:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04539 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:57:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from cliff.st-andrews.ac.uk (root@cliff.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.140.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28829 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:57:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from edge.st-andrews.ac.uk (dsw@edge [138.251.140.2]) by cliff.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29034; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:57:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (dsw@localhost) by edge.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA08716; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:58:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:58:35 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Wragg X-Sender: dsw@st-andrews.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: benheywood@hotmail.com Subject: Jon Good... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen Jonny Good? We agreed with him a couple of months ago to accomodate some English girls for worlds in St A's, and he was last seen loading his lardy arse onto a flight to canada. We'd like to know what's going on..... If anyone knows who the girls are, get them to write to us (not to britdisc, we're not subscribed) so we can tell them the address, and they can tell us when they're coming, etc. And if anyone sees Jon boy, kill him. Benji & Dave Sorcerors benheywood@hotmail.com dsw@st-and.ac.uk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 4 17:48:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11022 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:47:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11008 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:47:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from www1.xoommail.com (colo01-031.xoom.com [206.132.179.31]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09311 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:47:14 +0100 (BST) Received: (from service@localhost) by www1.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23001; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:47:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:47:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199908041647.JAA23001@www1.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: mta99@bigfoot.com Subject: Calling the new Birmingham team... To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey, anyone out there from the New Birmingham Team? Just looked at the BUF site and searched for teams in Birmingham and more than 'SlipDisc' turned up. Can anyone contact me? Thanks, Mal. mta99@bigfoot.com Finally a real address ______________________________________________________ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com Birthday? Anniversary? Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 4 18:46:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17204 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:44:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17195 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:44:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05953 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:44:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-019.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.19]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA29321 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:41:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01d901bedea1$810a7640$13a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: Subject: Re: Fresh attraction Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:17:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Get a video playing Ultimate footage - it's a great attention grabber. Given that it isn't easy to explain this "team game with a frisbee and no referees", video will help immensly. Also, dont sit *behind* your stall waiting for recruits to come to you. Stand in front of it and grab them. Ben -----Original Message----- From: Wobwrong To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 03 August 1999 19:14 Subject: Fresh attraction >Hi Britdisc, > >In response to Samuel Rey's mail: > >Here at Far Flung in Glasgow Uni we have a multi-level >approach to attracting freshers: > >-have all your smiliest people at the freshers fair >(cue the now infamous Dave G) > >-have the strip ready to but, including the shorts if >you have any. Ours are new for '99. > >-do a demonstration event in some park on campus or >other public place. Have the smiliey people handing >out leaflets to the gawping crowds. > >-in the first couple of practises, make the pace very >laid back and fun. There is nothing worse than aggro >with a frisbee to scare people off. > >-tell the new recruits to "bring a friend" to the next >practise. > >Good luck for the new term. Sorry for wasting your >time if you have graduated already. > >Cheers people, > >Bryce Renwick >Captain of Far Flung, Ultimate at Glasgow Universtiy > > >--- samuel rey wrote: > >> HI >> >> I SAY A MAIL ASKING FOR INFO ON RECRUITING STUDENTS, >> >> HERE IN NOTTINGHAM, WE ARE PUTTING OUR FRESHERS >> PACKAGE TOGETHER NOW. ANY >> USEFUL INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED >> >> THANX >> >> SAM >> >> >> >______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at >> http://www.hotmail.com >> > >=== >What did the bhuddist say when he walked >into the pizza shop? > >"Make me one with everything..." >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 4 22:07:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05128 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:06:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05121 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:06:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13407 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:06:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11C8En-000Gpn-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:06:14 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:04:48 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Fresh attraction References: <01d901bedea1$810a7640$13a492c3@pii266> In-Reply-To: <01d901bedea1$810a7640$13a492c3@pii266> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There's a whole strategy for recruiting at uni on the Australian Flying Disc Association website at www.afda.au (? I've forgotten!) including sample posters and starter drills, etc... Good luck Wayne PS: Gotta agree with the video idea - Skunks used a copy of the "Dobbyns-Cribber Hammerfest" (Big Brother vs NYNY ?) Worlds or US Nationals Final for a few years, then made a couple of short films of their own (!) The channel 4 documentary might have reasonable uses, if you can obtain a copy (BUF - Jon Hope?) Ben Ravilious writes >Get a video playing Ultimate footage - it's a great attention grabber. Given >that it isn't easy to explain this "team game with a frisbee and no >referees", video will help immensly. > >Also, dont sit *behind* your stall waiting for recruits to come to you. >Stand in front of it and grab them. > >Ben ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 4 23:32:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12205 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:31:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12199 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:31:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from yutani.dns-host.com (yutani.dns-host.com [209.235.102.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20627 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:31:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from phoenix (phoenix4.demon.co.uk [194.222.44.236]) by yutani.dns-host.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA06519 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00ff01bedec8$85c72940$4ef2fea9@phoenix> Reply-To: "Tim Blair" From: "Tim Blair" To: References: <01d901bedea1$810a7640$13a492c3@pii266> Subject: Re: Fresh attraction Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:27:16 +0100 Organization: BadPen Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > There's a whole strategy for recruiting at uni on the Australian Flying > Disc Association website at www.afda.au (? I've forgotten!) including > sample posters and starter drills, etc... The URL is www.adfa.com Just helping out... :O) Tim. -- Tim Blair (a.k.a. Captain Flubber) Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate http://www.aber.ac.uk/~club14/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 5 11:17:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08359 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:16:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08256 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:15:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA09460 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:15:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 05 Aug 1999 05:16:19 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" , GBM Chowdah , GBM Chris , GBM Dan , GBM David , GBM Ed , GBM Jeff , "GBM Jeff (summer)" , GBM Jordan , GBM Matt , GBM Niall , GBM Nolan , "GBM Phil C (home)" , "GBM Phil C (work)" , GBM Phil T , GBM Rick , GBM Russ , GBM Sam , GBM Stefan , GBM Steve EG , GBM Steve H , GBM Tim Subject: (Self) publicity Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:16:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A little pre-Worlds publicity. With perfect timing, last week the Guardian's Notes & Queries printed the following question that just demanded an answer. Today they printed my response, with one or two minor edits. -------------------- Q Is there a sport or activity which I could take up in my late 20's and still have a chance representing England competitively? A I started playing Ultimate, a team game played with a frisbee, in 1995 when I was 26. This month I will be competing in the World Ultimate Club Championships at St Andrews, Scotland. Over 1600 players from 89 teams around the world will compete. The team I will be playing for is called Overflow, the Great Britain team in the over-30's division. The age range of the team is 30 to 49, the oldest of whom didn't start playing until the age of 37! -------------------- Good luck to all the other UK teams in St Andrews (even the young ones!) Wayne Overflow From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 6 12:01:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20867 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:59:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20846 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:59:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04489 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:59:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-124.anadrol.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.51.252] helo=bigeasy) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Chj6-0000SR-00; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:59:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bedffa$be47ff00$fc33883e@bigeasy> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Cc: Subject: Attention: Colin Wagstaff - this is a bit Urgent.......... Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:59:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin, please get in touch with adam r/e t-shirts at: 0131 667 9827 or reply to this email From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 8 20:05:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21952 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:04:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21944 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:04:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f277.hotmail.com [209.185.130.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12192 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 20:04:17 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1797 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 1999 18:49:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19990808184933.1796.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.154.107.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 08 Aug 1999 11:49:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.154.107.185] From: "Simon Brasse" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 11:49:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all Diabolo players. The bristol fieasta has been cancelled due to lack of interest. I'll give back the money to players who have already paid on Thursday. I'm arranging a competitive game for us on the 21st in the afternoon against Strawberry Jam. So tell me ASAP if you can play. Time to be decided. Sorry all Simon (RED BULL) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 9 08:55:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03348 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:53:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03326 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:53:45 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02085 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:53:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03902 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:09:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21151 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 02:11:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id IAA15620 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:09:08 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:08:57 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id IAA03332 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Welcome to the LURKERS experience. We are hosting a fairwell tournament on the 28 & 29th August. There is space for 24 teams and the places will be allocated on a first cheque basis. I will NOT hold places, I cannot afford it. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team The Web site: http://www.intelcities.com/Athletic_Ave/clifford_bottomley/lurker1.htm Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques payable to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 9 09:32:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10243 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:30:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10234 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:30:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (root@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06848 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:30:53 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA19762 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199908090647.HAA19762@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 14th August 1999 Not The Worlds (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Mark would like to hear comments and ideas about such an event. Contact Mark Jefferson Email M.J.Jefferson@open.ac.uk Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 0777 591 7169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 9 10:58:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27486 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27479 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17894 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from cs.bris.ac.uk (actually host luna.cs.bris.ac.uk) by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:36 +0100 Received: from hula.cs.bris.ac.uk (hula [137.222.102.117]) by cs.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28094; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by hula.cs.bris.ac.uk (8.8.7) id KAA17413; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:10 +0100 (BST) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: Andrew Orr-Ewing , petehallett@yahoo.com Subject: news travels fast ! Reply-To: lafave@cs.bris.ac.uk Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:56:10 +0100 Message-ID: <17412.934192570@hula> From: Laura Lafave Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Just an email to let you know that due to a lack of interest, we have cancelled the Bristol Fiesta for this year. Andrew asked me to tell those (two) teams who sent cheques that they will be destroyed unless you specificially request to have them returned: Thanks, Laura, on behalf of HeadRush From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 9 11:36:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03443 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:35:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03430 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:35:00 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17232 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:34:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10423; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA32237; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:36:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id LAA49920; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:34:20 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:34:08 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <17412.934192570@hula> Subject: Re: news travels fast ! TO: lafave@cs.bris.ac.uk CC: A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, petehallett@yahoo.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Item Subject: ARPA1.txt "internet headers" Could not convert BINARY FILE item to text. Will attempt to 'shar' item as file '07be8k7' at end of msg. ....................................................................... Item Subject: news travels fast ! For those now feeling that their lives have ended and were looking forward to playing Frisbee in the last few weeks of August. Why not come along to the Lurkers Fairwell tournament: We are hosting a fairwell tournament on the 28 & 29th August. There is space for 24 teams and the places will be allocated on a first cheque basis. I will NOT hold places, I cannot afford it. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: #65 per team The Web site: http://www.intelcities.com/Athletic_Ave/clifford_bottomley/lurker1.htm Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques payable to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: news travels fast ! Author: lafave (lafave@cs.bris.ac.uk) at cobo-unix-shar Date: 09/08/1999 10:56 Hi everyone, Just an email to let you know that due to a lack of interest, we have cancelled the Bristol Fiesta for this year. Andrew asked me to tell those (two) teams who sent cheques that they will be destroyed unless you specificially request to have them returned: Thanks, Laura, on behalf of HeadRush # This is a shell archive. Remove anything before this line, # then unpack it by saving it in a file and typing "sh file". # # Wrapped by openmail at cobo on Mon Aug 9 11:34:20 1999 # # This archive contains: # 07be8k7 # echo x - 07be8k7 sed 's/^@//' >07be8k7 <<'@EOF' Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id LAA54758 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:03:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.139]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00564 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:05:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04411 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:03:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk(137.205.192.30) by charon.cargill.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031327; Mon, 9 Aug 99 05:02:48 -0500 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18547; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:00:57 +0100 (BST) Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27486 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27479 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17894 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from cs.bris.ac.uk (actually host luna.cs.bris.ac.uk) by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:36 +0100 Received: from hula.cs.bris.ac.uk (hula [137.222.102.117]) by cs.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28094; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by hula.cs.bris.ac.uk (8.8.7) id KAA17413; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:56:10 +0100 (BST) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: Andrew Orr-Ewing , petehallett@yahoo.com Subject: news travels fast ! Reply-To: lafave@cs.bris.ac.uk Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:56:10 +0100 Message-ID: <17412.934192570@hula> @From: Laura Lafave Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk @EOF chmod 660 07be8k7 exit 0 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 9 18:26:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28019 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:25:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28014 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:25:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from ms25.hinet.net (root@ms25.hinet.net [168.95.4.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07839 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:25:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from www (h102.s16.ts30.hinet.net [163.30.16.102]) by ms25.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA28997 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:25:10 +0800 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Paul Liu 04" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Where is STAN? Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:23:54 +0800 Message-ID: <000801bee28b$f47b37c0$63121ea3@china.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for bothering you Last year (1998, 9th WUGC, USA), I didn't see anyone (Sammy? am I right?) of STAN joining the tourney with us from U.K.. If it is possible, can you help me to contact with STAN? Thanks for your gentle. GUTS Team Taiwan ROC, G.C. Paul Liu 04 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 9 22:17:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19182 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:15:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19162 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:15:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03174 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 22:15:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21382 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 21:14:58 -0000 Received: from userk948.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.73.16) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 21:14:58 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bee2ac$93dc6760$104995c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: worlds Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:25:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BD, I posted a message last week asking were I could check the results from worlds on a daily basis. I was told to look at the WUCC site, Which I did today, however I cannot find any results. If any of you people out there know any results or could tell me where to find them could you please mail me. Thanks, Matt Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 10 10:58:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19741 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:50:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19731 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:50:52 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25889 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:50:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:50:26 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11094; Tue, 10 Aug 99 10:50:22 BST Message-Id: <9908100950.AA11094@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:50:16 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: WUCC results X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Whoever was looking for results for WUCC, check back to the website as they've started to come through now, http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/news/08sun.html Pete From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 11 16:58:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16715 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16705 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:47 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15729 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10787 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22226 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id QAA109154 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:08 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:55:52 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA16706 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk THE LURKERS TOURNAMENT HAS YET TO REACH CRITICAL MASS ON NUMBERS OF PAID UP TEAMS. I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY MONDAY 16 AUGUST, IN ORDER TO SAVE MY POCKET. PLEASE THOSE WHO HAVE PROMISSED CHEQUES, PUT THEM IN THE POST NOW, THOSE WHO HAVEN'T GET A TEAM IN NOW. CLIFF We are hosting a fairwell tournament on the 28 & 29th August. There is space for 24 teams and the places will be allocated on a first cheque basis. I will NOT hold places, I cannot afford it. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team The Web site: http://www.intelcities.com/Athletic_Ave/clifford_bottomley/lurker1.htm Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques payable to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Aug 14 16:21:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15657 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:19:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15648 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18733 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11FfaC-0000ka-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:56 +0100 Received: from skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.158] ident=mackay) by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11FfaC-00056R-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:56 +0100 Received: (from mackay@localhost) by skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA24908 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:55 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:55 +0100 From: "David J.C. MacKay" Message-Id: <199908141518.QAA24908@skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WUCC results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The WUCC pages contain the game results, but they are a bit hard to find. For your convenience, here are the links for game results: 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th (The results up to the 12th are in place at the moment) David MacKay (14/8/99) PS the open final, between the Finnish Liquidisc and American DOG should be interesting. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 15 12:49:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26378 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:48:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26371 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:48:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f224.hotmail.com [209.185.130.162]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16714 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:48:09 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21416 invoked by uid 0); 15 Aug 1999 11:47:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990815114737.21415.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.154.107.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 04:47:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.154.107.185] From: "Simon Brasse" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 04:47:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all Diabolo players or those that want to play. Sorry Bristol was canceled. If I get enough money on Thursday we can still make the open nationals. I've organised a competitive match between ourselves and Strawberry Jam to be held on tuesday 24th August (Almost for sure.) Game starts at 7.30 so anyone interested in joining Diabolo or current members who want to play turn up at the regular Clapham South ultimate pitch. See you all Thursday. Simon Brasse. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 16 07:48:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15361 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15356 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07007 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA17315 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199908160647.HAA17315@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 21st August 1999 Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date - moved from 12 June! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ TBA, Scotland [Golf] Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 0777 591 7169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 16 12:30:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19263 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:29:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19251 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:29:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail01-lhr.pilot.net (mail-lhr-1.pilot.net [212.117.0.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27104 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:29:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntlon008.seacontainers.com (unknown-212-117-10-192.pilot.net [212.117.10.192] (may be forged)) by mail01-lhr.pilot.net with SMTP id MAA09833 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:29:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from PCL888 [172.16.102.226] (HELO PCL888.seacontainers.com) by ntlon008.seacontainers.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0I/2.0I BL25I listener) id 0000_06a2_37b7_f5ed_4b0a; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:28:45 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:30:42 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEE7E3.27A0E1C0.nick.dray@geseaco.com> From: Nick Dray Reply-To: "nick.dray@geseaco.com" To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Subject: Ignore if you're not R. Cole Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:30:40 +0100 Organization: GE SeaCo X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can Rob Cole mail me asap. cheers nick. mailto:nick.dray@geseaco.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 16 14:41:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08269 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08254 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA06650 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:23 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3955 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 13:40:21 -0000 Received: from usera872.uk.uudial.com (HELO default) (193.149.69.110) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 13:40:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bee7e9$ccf420a0$6e4595c1@default> Reply-To: "Matthew Lowe" From: "Matthew Lowe" To: References: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF46C2@LONSEX02> Subject: Change of e-mail Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:57:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My e-mail address will shortly be changing. So anyone planing on replying to a recent message will have to hang on until they have been notified of my new address, I should have posted it to BD by the end of today. Cheers, Matt Matthew.Lowe@Dial.Pipex.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 16 15:41:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19238 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:40:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19229 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:40:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12934 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:40:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA03811 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:40:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:40:19 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199908161440.PAA03811@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 21st August 1999 BDGA Golf - B tier tournament (2 days) @ Crook of Devon, 45min north of Edinburgh [Golf] Please note the change of date - moved from 28 August! Contact Liam Young Email liamyoung@bigfoot.com Bristol Fiesta (2 days) @ Chew Magna (just south of Bristol) [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED: "due to a lack of interest"! Contact Andrew Orr-Ewing Email A.Orr-Ewing@bristol.ac.uk Phone (0117) 9287672 Saturday 28th August 1999 Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 0777 591 7169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 16 18:57:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA18896 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:56:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18887 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:56:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from popmail1-gui.server.dtn.ntl.com (popmail1-gui.server.dtn.ntl.com [212.250.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28325 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (212.250.64.75) by popmail1-gui.server.dtn.ntl.com; 16 Aug 1999 18:56:04 +0100 Message-ID: <005201bee80d$86182220$4b40fad4@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: Subject: New E-mail address Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:04:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My new e-mail address is Matthew.Lowe@dtn.ntl.com Thanks, Matt. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 08:14:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25823 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:13:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25818 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:13:12 +0100 (BST) From: helen.myers@deloitte.co.uk Received: from mail.deloitte.co.uk (mail.deloitte.co.uk [194.88.95.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA24803 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:13:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 8:07:22 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WUCC99 - Houndz Shirts to trade with SOUP player MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Secure Messaging /310000000/310102502/310102532/300490599/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id IAA25819 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have 2 Houston Houndz shirts (#37) in my possession which are available for trading with a player from SOUP. I am led to believe that one of you expressed an interest at the tournament but, we never managed to track you down after play had finished. If anyone is interested, please get in touch. It may be best to email me at Helen_Myers@hotmail.com rather than this address as I may be terminating my employment very soon. Hope to hear from someone soon ... Love 'n' layouts Helen --------------------------------------------------------------------- IMPORTANT NOTICE. This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 11:17:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16271 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16257 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (newsgate.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06052 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from dmotive.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with UUCP id LAA01601 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:45 +0100 (BST) Date: 17 Aug 99 10:31:36 +0100 From: Oz Freire Subject: Do I need to Know? To: BritDisc Message-ID: <990817.103136@designmotive.co.uk> X-Mailer: InterCall 1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA16261 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to Matt for letting us all know he has a new e-mail address. I have a new pair of socks, but I don't go around telling all at Britdisc! Keep it relevant please. Oz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 11:44:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20804 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:43:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20792 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:43:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08910 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:43:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from dante08.u.washington.edu (cpage@dante08.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.10]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA16474 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:43:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (cpage@localhost) by dante08.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA34260 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:43:19 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:43:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Page" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pete Harvey Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk \\\Hey Pete-- \\\\\\\\\\\tried calling--don;'t have internet access to my e-mail, but do to my friend Chris'. \if you leave your mobile num ber will try to call you later this week or when we arrive back in \london next Sat. or Sun. \\\\l8r bro-- Andy F. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 13:27:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08291 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:26:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08278 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:26:14 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18649 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:26:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30873 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:25:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20260 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:27:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id NAA36066 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:25:40 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:25:27 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA08279 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Why not come play ultimate in the depths of Surrey, lovely fields, camping, pubs, resturants etc: The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team The Web site: http://www.intelcities.com/Athletic_Ave/clifford_bottomley/lurker1.htm Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques payable to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 14:00:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13411 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:58:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13385 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:58:45 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:01:03 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: 2000 GB Women Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Resurgence of GB Women's Ultimate The performances of our top two British Women's teams at the World Ultimate Club Championships last week were simply stunning! It is a constant source of inspiration to our other teams (Open, Co-ed, Women and Masters) when we watch Bliss and Twin Peaks take on the best in the world without an ounce of self doubt and not a flicker of fear. While it is true that Bliss finished stronger in their games, it should not be overlooked that Twin Peaks were also leading against several of the top teams. The reason this is important (to me at least) is because I am interested in how GB translates its club level successes into national team victories. It is also worth noting that there were outstanding achievements by GB women competing in the Co-ed Division - another potential source of individual talent! I believe we should be planning as early as possible for the GB assault on the World Ultimate (national team) Championships to be held in Germany next year. So,without wishing for a moment to find fault with the sterling efforts of GB managers, selectors, coaches and trainers of past years, I wanted to put forward an idea for an alternative approach to national team selection. Might we better harness the great club level cohesion, that is mostly a result of lots of regular practices, by sending our best club team (plus a number of invited 'guests') to represent GB in Germany? I am thinking initially about GB Women, but the same argument might be applied to the GB Open squads?! I feel that the Co-ed and Masters (and Juniors) squads will still be best served by combining the best talent on offer across a broader spectrum of clubs. Finally, could I take this opportunity to congratulate ALL the GB teams at WUCC, not least the large organisational team - lets party on! See you all at the British Open in Eastbourne! Sam Neilson (the old git from) Chevron Action Flash From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 14:31:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18947 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18942 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24836 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA14244 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:25:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199908171325.OAA14244@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:34:42 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: 2000 GB Women In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At 02:01 PM 8/17/99 +0100, sammy wrote: > >I believe we should be planning as early as possible for the GB assault on >the World Ultimate (national team) Championships to be held in Germany next >year. So,without wishing for a moment to find fault with the sterling >efforts of GB managers, selectors, coaches and trainers of past years, I >wanted to put forward an idea for an alternative approach to national team >selection. > >Might we better harness the great club level cohesion, that is mostly a >result of lots of regular practices, by sending our best club team (plus a >number of invited 'guests') to represent GB in Germany? I am thinking >initially about GB Women, but the same argument might be applied to the GB >Open squads?! I feel that the Co-ed and Masters (and Juniors) squads will >still be best served by combining the best talent on offer across a broader >spectrum of clubs. > A sound idea IMHO. Also lets not forget the fact that next years results will decide wether GB send a team to the World Games in Japan. While many people seem to be less than excited about this (particularly the 'purists' - there have been some changes to the 'usual' rules for that competition) I think they are being exceptionally dim-witted and insular. This is an unbelievably chance for Ultimate and it would be a disaster if GB weren't involved. I quote (from memory so it's probably not exact) "athletes will be accorded the same responsibility, restrictions and privileges as Olympic athletes" - hands up anyone playing Ultimate even half seriously who doesn't want to be part of that? (PS the "restrictions" refare to drug testing). My point being that those not either playing on the club teams in question or 'guested' should consider putting a kick-ass coed team together, and that all of the stronger players should be coaxed out of the woodwork for the other teams (eg masters). Just putting my oar in... Barry From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 14:33:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19800 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:33:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19779 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:33:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25409 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:33:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 27657 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 13:33:15 -0000 Received: from dyn189-s-bo.dsnet.it (HELO ultilinks.com) (195.250.230.189) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 13:33:15 -0000 Message-ID: <37B9641E.431B98C2@ultilinks.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:31:10 +0200 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc CC: Charlie Mead , Paul Hurt Subject: Results for Friday and Saturday online! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, here's what you've been all asking for: http://www.ultilinks.com/wucc99/news/13fri.html We couldn't put them online earlier than this, sorry. More detailed infos about the finals and lots of pictures will come soon, so keep checking the website regularely. Please stop emailing me asking for results and info now. Ciao, Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 15:15:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26612 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:14:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26588 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:14:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12659 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:13:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Gjzq-000EyN-0C; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:13:51 +0000 Subject: Comments/reports on WUCC finals needed Date: Tue, 17 Aug 99 15:13:57 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "EuroDisc" , "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all We're in the process of producing the final issue of "The Flying Scotsman", which will be posted on-line, and also printed and sent to all the competing teams at WUCC99. Unfortunately, because most of the media team were up until seven in the morning producing the issue that came out on finals day, we missed most of the finals (some of you Masters players will have seen me having breakfast at New Hall *before* dragging myself off to bed!). I'm looking for any reports or info on any of the finals games (from those playing as well as those spectating): Masters - Cigar 19-10 Return of the RedEye Coed - Red Fish Blue Fish vs Osaka Natto (final score was?) Women - Verge 19-13 Schwa Open - DoG 20-18 Liquidisc Any notes on the general run of the games, spectacular moments, crucial points, etc, much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Paul PS Apolgies to Red Eye for the finals day rosters. We'll get your nationality right in the last issue, I promise! --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 17:24:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17953 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:23:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17948 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11758 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:23:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 17 Aug 99 17:23:17 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 17 Aug 99 17:22:33 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:22:30 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Worlds results In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <185815531D8@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, I wish I could have been at St Andrews for the Ultimate but I did still go to Worlds last week - Disc Golf Worlds that is. Regarding the publication of results from WUCC Paul Hurt wrote - 7F00,0000,0000> My priority (in fact, the only reason I was there) was to make sure the > *competitors at the tournament* received the best information possible, in > as timely a fashion as possible. I think we managed to do this, and the > feedback I received from players was that the daily newsletter was the > best there's been at a Worlds event. No quibble about that and I wouldn't want to knock anybody involved in running/organising tournaments. However, good organisation can overcome some of the logistical problems encountered by Paul and Peldi. Disc golf is lucky to have some very talented and organised people and last weeks worlds ran very smoothly. I believe that results and reports were put on the web every day for the days play. Ultimate had 80 games a day with a points total for each team, Golf had 800 rounds of 18 holes every day. Every single card was checked for addition and results phoned into HQ within 1 hour of the end of the round. This required 2 volunteer officials at each of 4 parks and a mobile phone at each. Results and rankings for each of 400 players in 8 divisions were published in the tournament hotel and on the web that evening. Rick Bays published daily results in his e-letter. Within 3 hours of the end of play on Saturday payouts totalling 50000 USD were calculated for approx 150 players and cheques made out signed and presented to players at the awards ceremony that evening (including one for me!!!) Way to go Professional Disc Golf Association, Rochester Disc Golf Club and Chili Disc Golf Club. http://pdga.com/world99_list.phtml7F00,0000,0000 In fact North American players qualify for PDGA Worlds based on performance in 300 sanctioned tournaments, and with 5000 current members distributed over 15 regions determining who gets invited is a major task. The PDGA is now looking to maintain player ratings (handicaps) and course ratings for all members. The PDGA has only one full time administrator, but he is one ORGANISED and EFFICIENT man - Brian Hoeniger. 7F00,0000,0000> The route from games being played to results being available to publish > was quite a tortuous one. Score sheets had to be gathered from every game > (about eighty games a day), entered into spreadsheets, pool positions > worked out, etc. Corrections would frequently come in at dinner, or we'd > spot errors ourselves and have to go out and verify the actual score. So > final results from the day's games didn't get to us before about 10pm each > night. The race to get them into the newsletter would then start so that > the whole thing could be with the printers at 6am the next morning and two > thousand copies on the fields by 10 o'clock the following day. > > Thanks to some of the less-than-convenient facilities at St. Andrews (like > no outside telephone lines!), Peldi only had internet access between about > 7 and 10 pm each night, during which time the day's results were not yet > available. So you can see that there was no earthly way he could have > posted results any earlier than he did. > > Yes, I think it would have been good if full results had been sent out on > e-mail and rsd as well. But then, how many Worlds tournaments have there > been recently where this has actually happened? It happened in Sweden in > 1996, but only through the efforts of Thomas Griesbaum and myself, who > just happened to be there, and just happened to have laptops with us, and > just happened to be prepared to spend two or three hours a day typing up > results and putting them out there (and running up hotel phone bills in > the process). > > Of course, all things are possible given sufficient money. But then > tournaments become more expensive, and, whaddya know, people complain > about the cost! Who'd be a tournament director? > > The staff, virtually all of whom worked for no money (some even *paid* to > go to the tournament!) worked like trojans all week. There were so many > things that were so *right* about this tournament. Those involved deserve > a big pat on the back (rather than a slap in the face). > > Paul *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 17:34:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19786 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:33:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19780 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:33:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20652; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:33:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA16609; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:29:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199908171629.RAA16609@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:38:40 +0100 To: "Derek Robins" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Worlds results In-Reply-To: <185815531D8@admin.warwick.ac.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >The PDGA has only one full time administrator, Heres to the BUF getting one of those... And Paul, Peldi, Dora and all the others did a great job - regardless of how well organised a bunch of golf playing yanks are. :-) Barry From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 18:38:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29017 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:37:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29006 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:37:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16255; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:37:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 17 Aug 99 18:37:28 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 17 Aug 99 18:35:46 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, bdga@egroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:35:37 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 1999 Disc Golf Worlds X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <186B9C45610@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a brief report on PDGA DG World Championships. Ken Climos 9 year reign as Disc Golf World Champion came to an end last Saturday when Ron Russell beat him by 4 shots at the end of 171 holes of golf and a total of 432 shots. He won 4000 USD Juliana Bower easily retained her title as Womens World Champion with a total of 510 shots. Top non-USA performer was Jesper Lundmark of Sweden in 6th place. Six other Swedes and one Fin made it to the semi final round and finished in the top 50. Britain's Simon Luard finished in 152nd place out of 173 finishers in the Open division The masters division (35+) was won by Jim Oates after a play-off with Stan McDaniel, they shot 457. The top european player was me in 34th place out of 97. Just enough to get into the prize money $102.50. This was my best performance at Worlds and my score would have placed me 74th in Open division. Ruth Steele (was Lissaman) was the only european competitor in the womens division where she finished 20th of 25. She took second in a distance competition which was organised for the golfers. Full results available at http://pdga.com/world99_list.phtml Derek Robins *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 17 19:24:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05096 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:23:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05089 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:23:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26503 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:23:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-009.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.9]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA07780 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:24:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001301bee8de$27ebc860$09a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Worlds Coverage Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:27:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Two Saturdays ago Red managed to get half a page of coverage in the *sports* section of the Leicester Mercury. Just found it in the website archive...... http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/scripts/edarchdisplay.asp?section=Loca l+sports&ID=46362&source=LM (This link is rather long and my mailer keeps cutting it in two so make sure the whole thing is entered unto the URL box) This was accompanied by two colour photos of a training session. They mostly regurgitated our press release which is great because essentially we get to write the article! Ben RED From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 18 09:46:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09471 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:44:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09448 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:44:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16044 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:44:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA00636 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:44:43 +0100 (BST) From: "Andy Cotgreave" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: Anyone seen Dave Barnard? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:44:39 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127014FE83B@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, Does anyone know where Dave Barnard (of Catch 22) is? He is apparently in Edinburgh. His family need to get in touch URGENTLY. I had a phone call from his girlfriend this morning - if you know where he is, or know anyone who might know, can you either mail me back, or call Carol on 01222 668157. Cheers, Andy ========== RM plc acotgreave@rmplc.net tel: 01235 823254 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 18 10:01:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15368 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:59:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15311 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:59:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17082 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:59:05 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:53:24 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C3DE@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: Samba on the common Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:53:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Missed out on that famous Worlds atmosphere? Want to play some ultimate with players from the other side of the world? Then come down to Clapham Common on Thursday evening from 7pm for a game with the Brazilian co-ed team. They're in London and would love to play some disk with some London players. Garret Crosbie (ex-Shotgun), whose been training them in San Paulo, will also be there. Players of all nationalities are welcome - I'm sure there's plenty of you around. Hope to see you there, Cheers, PieBoy PS There may also be a game on Sunday afternoon for players still around; let me know if interested. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 18 12:05:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27181 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:03:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27173 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:03:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27893 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:03:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.53.235] (th-en134-235.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.53.235]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18786 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:03:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: BritOpen99 Message-Id: <000000312463017819087@daletaylor.co.uk> From: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:04:47 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Britdisc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA27174 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, Please note that the British Open 1999 is now over subscribed IF, and only IF everyone who has reserved a place pays their deposit. It is probably still worthwhile sending off entries, as I suspect a few of the 'reservations' may come to nothing. FULL ENTRIES... First Touch London GB Mohawk Mwnci Magic Brighton GB Deep South Mentality Sheffield GB Blue Arse Flies Worcester GB Point Blank Bristol GB Catch 22 Leeds GB Mild Mannered Janitors Leeds GB Under the Influence London GB Night Fever Ramsgate GB Sly Dogs Portsmouth GB Whiplash Milton Keynes GB O'flow National Team GB RESERVATIONS (Deposit due by 23/8 latest)... I have extended all reservation deadlines to 23/8 (this coming Monday) as some teams are still trying to organise themselves post-worlds. ANY team whose deposit has not reached me by that date will no longer have a reserved place and will only be added to the waiting list if I hear from them that they still wish to participate. Sun Creteil France Chevron Action Flash Manchester GB Four Non Blondes GB HSL Lueneburg Germany Ashtead Dragons Ashtead GB Superfly Nottingham GB Slipdisc Birmingham GB DoughBoy London GB Fluid Druids Ross on Wye GB Flowers Switzerland XLR8RS Brussels Belgium Red Leicester GB WAITING LIST... ONLY teams in the waiting list, who have paid their deposits, will be added to the entered teams list as and when reserved teams fail to meet the 23/8 deadline. IE if you are in the waiting list but have not sent a deposit cheque, you will NOT be added to either of the other two lists automatically, unless teams in the reservation list have dropped out prior to 23/8. This deadline will then apply to you. I will not cash waiting list teams deposits unless there is a place available for them at the Open. Floating Bloke GB Diablo GB BGA Eastbourne GB I hope this is all clear to one and all. Nolan --------------------------------------- British Open 99 Email: open99@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: +44 (0) 1323 430700 Fax: +44 (0) 1323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 18 14:59:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24994 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:57:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24984 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:57:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA10860 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:57:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990818135751.6409.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.250.130.222] by web121.yahoomail.com; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:57:51 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Brycie Subject: toilets at WUCC To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BD, can anyone remember the name of the company who supplied the mobile toilets for Worlds? I'm trying to get my hands on some of the "Urinal Aim Here" stickers for freshers week publicity. Anyone who wants some should mail me at this adress. Cheers, Bryce Renwick Capatin of Far Flung, Ultimate at Glasgow University. === What did the bhuddist say when he walked into the pizza shop? "Make me one with everything..." _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 19 14:34:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28961 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:33:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28954 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:33:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26843 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:33:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.53.181] (th-en134-181.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.53.181]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA26978 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:33:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Floating Bloke ? Message-Id: <000000315813017914393@daletaylor.co.uk> From: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:33:12 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Britdisc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA28956 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone from FLOATING BLOKE please contact me urgently. Thanks Nolan --------------------------------------- British Open 99 Email: open99@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: +44 (0) 1323 430700 Fax: +44 (0) 1323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 19 15:56:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13807 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:54:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13799 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:54:52 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15722 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:54:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04501 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24694 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:56:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id PAA72310 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:54:15 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:53:56 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS TOURNAMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have had a number of Questions about wether the tournament will be happening or not. 1) Is the tournament on? Yes there is expected to be only 16 teams instead of the hoped 24. 2) Is there any pick up team? Not officially, but there is at least one team which needs players. Contact Scott at oldtrouts@hotmail.com. 3) What is the accomodation? Camping you can stay Friday through Sunday nights. I will put some B&B on the web site for those of you who do not want to camp. Cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 20 08:41:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA27767 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:39:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27762 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:39:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from duck.prod.itd.earthlink.net (duck.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.117]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01061 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:39:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.149.74.210] (userm122.uk.uudial.com [193.149.77.172]) by duck.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21583 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: andrewline@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:40:19 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: andrewline@earthlink.net (Andrew Vickers, Caroline Batzdorf) Subject: Channel four and Ulitmate Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do you remember that Channel 4 programme about worlds 94 in Colchester? Does anyone have a copy on video? I have become friendly with someone who actually played in the final and he wants to watch it. Andrew Vickers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 23 07:51:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01609 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01604 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02003 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA10863 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199908230647.HAA10863@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 28th August 1999 Lurkers Tournie (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Clifford Bottomley Email Clifford_Bottomley@Cargill.com Phone 0777 591 7169 Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 23 09:32:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09288 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:28:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09278 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:28:35 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04268 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:28:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA11883 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:28:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29860 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id JAA112236 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:28:22 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:28:04 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS FUNTIME FRISBEE FAIR 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA09284 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have now got 13 teams fully paid and I would like to make that 16 by the weekend, her are those who have paid and have a place: Monks Old Boys Playthings Lurkers Mud Culture Red Village People Night Fever Wyld Stallions Clapham Bullfrogs Phat eds First Touch Super Fly Slip disc Awaiting reply OldTrouts Strange Blue Brunel Falcons Uriel Others are still welcome, but should put a cheque in the post ASAP. Cheques Payable to Clifford Bottomley. The Tounament: LURKERS 1999 FAIRWELL The Time: 28/29 August The Place: Cobham, Surrey The Cost: £65 per team The Web site: http://www.intelcities.com/Athletic_Ave/clifford_bottomley/lurker1.htm Further deatils will be disclosed closer to the time on the Lurkers Web Site. Please send your applications including cheques payable to: Clifford Bottomley 39 Court Farm Road Warlingham Surrey CR6 9BL If you need to contact me you can at the above address, or at clifford_bottomley@cargill.com cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 23 11:51:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00159 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:48:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00152 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:48:35 +0100 (BST) From: ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14496 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:48:29 +0100 (BST) Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id LAA03963; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:45:30 +0100 Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma002573; Mon, 23 Aug 99 11:44:20 +0100 Received: from intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FGW00MD9Z5YII@olive.uk.pw.com> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:44:29 +0100 (BST) Received: by intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 802567D6.003B1295 ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:45:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:40:08 +0100 Subject: Re: 2000 GB Women To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <802567D6.003AA4E4.00@intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L GB@C&L INT@INTL Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I would like to add my congratulations to Bliss for a great performance at WUCC but would like to make a few comments on Sammy's follow up remarks on national club champions representing GB in World Nations tournaments. 1. This has happened in this country before and had resonable success when there were far fewer teams. It the current climate when we are trying to grow the sport I fear that it will lead to the concentration of better, serious players in a few top teams rather than an effort to improve the quality in the country. This is because players are able to play for any team wherever based. This can already be seen with top student players playing for top 5 teams rather than local sides. 2. Would we actually be getting the best team? At WUCC this year in the Open division the reigning National Champions finished 3rd of the 5 GB entered teams (excludes SOUP who had the Scottish entry). 3. Do we try to ensure that the National Champions who won the title are the same team that goes to World Nations? What happens if it is expensive/difficult timing and only half can go? Do we say fine get some other people or sorry we are going to offer it to the second place team? How and who makes this decision? In recent years we have seen clubs sides grow and subside with extra players brought in for major tournaments who then return to their former teams afterwards. I do not know how true this scenario was for the recent WUCC 99 teams, only time will tell. Sammy also said that there were many good quality performances from women players not only on Bliss but also Twin Peaks, from the Co-ed teams and I would add also from Non-Blondes. Are these women to be excluded from the chance to play for their country because they do not play for the top women's only team? I do not believe that a club side that cannot completely form a large enough squad for a World Nations tournament but has to take other players from viable clubs (potentially destroying those teams as a side effect) has any benefits over a squad system made up of all eligable players! Ian Stebbing From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 23 13:20:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13349 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13334 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17742 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Iswj-0001Tc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:11:29 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Hong Kong Sevens 1999 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Britdisc The Mild Mannered Janitors (as seen at Worlds) would like to invite you to the second HONG KONG SEVENS. It's going to happen on the 9th and 10th of October 1999 at Lawnswood School, Leeds. THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT Come along and find out who is to be the final Yellow Jersey winner of the Outdoor Season! There are only 16 places Cost per team 60 pounds, Cheques payable to MMJ. Send to: 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Any problems call Arun (0113) 224 9680 or Gump (0113) 217 4624 or email me (b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk) Ben Mitchell (Chevron Action Flash - 20th at Worlds, not 21st) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 23 13:57:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19463 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:54:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19454 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:54:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20668 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:54:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 (tne499bf.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.113]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA10132 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:54:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:54:56 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199908231254.NAA10132@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RAD Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk RAD featuring Ultimate will be shown at 12:00 lunch time on 29th August, Channel 5. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 09:53:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22271 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:51:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22257 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:51:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from datamonitor.com (gateway.datamonitor.com [193.122.152.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20405 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:51:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from larch.datamonitor.com ([192.168.128.4]) by gateway.datamonitor.com with ESMTP id <115207>; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:51:06 +0100 Received: by larch.datamonitor.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:48:26 +0100 Message-ID: <996AEB00DA48D311A2780008C75B61891840A2@larch.datamonitor.com> From: Sarah Gibbons To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Pick-ups for Croydon Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:48:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of any teams that are looking for more players? Sarah Gibbons Senior Sales - Europe Tel: 0044 171 675 7286 Fax:0044 171 316 0630 sgibbons@datamonitor.com http://www.datamonitor.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 14:03:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28033 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:01:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28011 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:01:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07796 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:01:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from cst289.york.ac.uk (cst289.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.112]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19596 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:01:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:01:13 +0100 () From: Catherine Walker To: BritDisc Subject: Beginners Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there a recommended way of hoe to teach beginners, clearly throwing comes pretty top of the list, but as this is now only our 2nd year as a club this will be the first time we've properly taken on beginners at the start of the year, and we're not overly sure what's best to do with them! So I'd be really grateful for any suggestions... eg. should we get them using the stack right from the start or leave it a while... what's the best way to integrate them into the club/1st team without slowing down our better players... Cheers Catherine (Yorkie Bar Kids) PS If yu have an email address for Rachel Jacobs could you please pass it on to me please, and if you are Rachel Jabobs I seem to remeber you had a hotmail account, but the system here won't accept any hot mail emails! So could you ring Tom on 01904 423 961, cheers :) <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. -Rabbit <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 14:33:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03500 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:32:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03469 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:31:59 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09230 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:31:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:32:10 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01877; Tue, 24 Aug 99 14:32:03 BST Message-Id: <9908241332.AA01877@damson.open.ac.uk> To: Catherine Walker Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:31:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Beginners Cc: BritDisc In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Have a look at Aaron Altman's guide to starting and improving new teams at http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/public/ca/ad943925/ultimate.htm Pete > > Is there a recommended way of hoe to teach beginners, clearly throwing > comes pretty top of the list, but as this is now only our 2nd year as > a club this will be the first time we've properly taken on beginners > at the start of the year, and we're not overly sure what's best to do > with them! So I'd be really grateful for any suggestions... eg. > should we get them using the stack right from the start or leave it a > while... what's the best way to integrate them into the club/1st team > without slowing down our better players... > > Cheers > Catherine > (Yorkie Bar Kids) > > PS If yu have an email address for Rachel Jacobs could you please pass > it on to me please, and if you are Rachel Jabobs I seem to remeber you > had a hotmail account, but the system here won't accept any hot mail > emails! So could you ring Tom on 01904 423 961, cheers :) > > <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. > -Rabbit > <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 15:03:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08456 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:01:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08450 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:01:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd67.hotmail.com [207.82.252.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11177 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:01:55 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 86140 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 1999 14:01:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990824140124.86139.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:01:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk, chw101@york.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Beginners Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:01:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Have a look at Aaron Altman's guide to starting and improving new >teams at >http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/public/ca/ad943925/ultimate.htm > >Pete And while you're at it, have a look at I'd point any potential new player hre as it has all the info he or she needs on rules, throws, glossary of terms and history. If you want some comedy, have a look at for some QuickTime videos of different throws being performed. Bes* Jes* > > Is there a recommended way of hoe to teach beginners, clearly throwing > > comes pretty top of the list, but as this is now only our 2nd year as > > a club this will be the first time we've properly taken on beginners > > at the start of the year, and we're not overly sure what's best to do > > with them! So I'd be really grateful for any suggestions... eg. > > should we get them using the stack right from the start or leave it a > > while... what's the best way to integrate them into the club/1st team > > without slowing down our better players... > > > > Cheers > > Catherine > > (Yorkie Bar Kids) > > > > PS If yu have an email address for Rachel Jacobs could you please pass > > it on to me please, and if you are Rachel Jabobs I seem to remeber you > > had a hotmail account, but the system here won't accept any hot mail > > emails! So could you ring Tom on 01904 423 961, cheers :) > > > > <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > > There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. > > -Rabbit > > <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 24 15:28:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12763 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:26:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12758 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:26:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (mail.ntli.net [194.168.5.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27988 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:26:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntli-dev28 ([10.117.5.250]) by mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 549-35819U10000L10000S0) with SMTP id AAA26297; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:25:55 +0100 Message-ID: <034101beee3c$ef27bd40$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> From: "Tim Blair" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Beginners Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:28:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Another site to have a look at is http://members.xoom.com/davidjez/ - 'The Ultimate Handbook' Tim. -- Tim Blair Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate http://www.aber.ac.uk/~club14/ email club14@aber.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 25 10:13:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03612 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:11:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03604 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20647 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:11:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990825091215.21950.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.250.130.185] by web122.yahoomail.com; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:12:15 PDT Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Brycie Subject: Urinal Aim Here To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BD, sorry for obsessing about this so much, but I just think this is really cool. I now have 16 'Urinal Aim Here' stickers, I'll be at Lurkers this weekend so if you want one then come and see me. I'm the freakishly tall one playing for Mud Culture, I'll be wearing yellow shades even if its raining. Not that its going to rain. Cheers, Bryce === What did the bhuddist say when he walked into the pizza shop? "Make me one with everything..." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 25 10:32:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07539 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:31:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07526 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:30:59 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13801 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:30:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10847; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:30:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00783; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:32:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id KAA94384; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:30:25 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:30:16 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Lurkers B&B MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Ruth.Taylor@bass.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA07529 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Bear Leatherhead Road · Oxshott Tel: 01372 842747 The Cricketers, Downside, Cobham, Surrey. KT11 3NX Tel: 01932 862105 Fax 01932 868186 The Victoria, Oxshott, Surrey Tel: 01372 843562 Fax: 01372 843302 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 25 10:43:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09472 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:42:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09467 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:42:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from c2h5oh.bass.com (hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.co.uk [152.134.45.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23602 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:42:16 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com BY c2h5oh.bass.com ; Wed Aug 25 10:42:01 1999 +0100 Received: by c2h5oh.bass.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:40:44 +0100 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E576DC2@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com'" , "'britdisc2'" Subject: RE: Lurkers B&B Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:40:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA09468 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For anyone out there who might be looking for B+B this weekend........ The Cricketers is not a B+B!!! I have just called and they do everything else but! Ruth Red 11 > -----Original Message----- > From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com [SMTP:Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com] > Sent: 25 August 1999 10:30 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Ruth.Taylor@bass.com > Subject: Lurkers B&B > > The Bear > Leatherhead Road · Oxshott > Tel: 01372 842747 > > The Cricketers, > Downside, Cobham, Surrey. KT11 3NX > Tel: 01932 862105 > Fax 01932 868186 > > The Victoria, > Oxshott, Surrey > Tel: 01372 843562 > Fax: 01372 843302 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 25 11:17:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14871 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:16:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14866 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:16:08 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26281 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:16:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07053; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:15:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04826; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:17:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id LAA136866; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:15:21 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:15:07 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E576DC2@HQBRNNT02> Subject: RE: Lurkers B&B MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: Ruth.Taylor@bass.com CC: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RE:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA14867 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Infact non of them do B&B, I will check for some others, I got them from a web site, and didn't think to check them. cliff ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Lurkers B&B Author: Ruth.Taylor (Ruth.Taylor@bass.com) at cobo-unix-mime Date: 25/08/1999 10:40 For anyone out there who might be looking for B+B this weekend........ The Cricketers is not a B+B!!! I have just called and they do everything else but! Ruth Red 11 > -----Original Message----- > From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com [SMTP:Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com] > Sent: 25 August 1999 10:30 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Ruth.Taylor@bass.com > Subject: Lurkers B&B > > The Bear > Leatherhead Road · Oxshott > Tel: 01372 842747 > > The Cricketers, > Downside, Cobham, Surrey. KT11 3NX > Tel: 01932 862105 > Fax 01932 868186 > > The Victoria, > Oxshott, Surrey > Tel: 01372 843562 > Fax: 01372 843302 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 25 11:36:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18278 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:34:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18268 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:34:47 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18229 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:34:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26802 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:34:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA31188 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:36:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id LAA93374 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:34:13 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:34:08 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: NEW LIST OF B&BS - SORRY OLD LIST WAS CRAPOLLA MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA18269 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Half Moon Twin 37.50 per room 4rooms available, Closest one to the Pub where we are camping 4 miles High Street, Ripley, Woking, Surrey, GU23 6AN Tel: 01483 224380 Amber Lodge Single £34&38 5 Miles Tel 0181-399-3058 Antoinette Hotel Dbl £60 per night 5miles tel 0181-546-1044 CLiff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 25 13:19:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02996 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:17:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02990 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:17:34 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04550 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:17:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23002; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:16:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15568; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:18:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id NAA134756; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:16:29 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:16:16 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Lurkers tournament MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: Damian.Mudge@sema.co.uk CC: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Lurkers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Expected start time is 9.am cliff ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Lurkers tournament Author: Damian.Mudge (Damian.Mudge@sema.co.uk) at cobo-unix-mime Date: 25/08/1999 10:57 Hi Cliff. Can you tell me what time the tournament starts on Saturday morning? Cheers, Damo ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 09:39:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11736 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:38:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11716 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:38:38 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13236 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:38:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA06640; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:38:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07695; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:40:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id JAA117982; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:37:57 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:37:44 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: LURKERS TOURNAMENT STUFF MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Ruth.Taylor@bass.com, aflores@lehman.com, David.Whitehead@gs.com, whitehead@cloe.demon.co.uk, glynn@popstar.demon.co.uk, Kevin.Noble@pgen.com, mark.thomas@radius-design.co.uk, nick.dray@geseaco.com, oldtrouts@hotmail.com, Richie@hebrides.co.uk, mta99@bigfoot.com, big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk, timothy.blair@ntli.net, Rowbottn@regents.ac.uk, wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk, WZiants@spencerstuart.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA11721 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tournament site - Imperial College Sports Ground Cobham By Car Come off the M25 at the A3 (Junction10), drive north up the A3, take the first exit, take the third exit (towards Cobham), Down a steep hill, to a mini roundabout, (Sainsbury is on the left), go straight over. Carry on to another roundabout, take the second exit, follow this road for 2-3 miles, this will take you though Cobham Village, past an Esso garage on the right, past a pub (The Old Plough) on the right Go over a bridge over the railway, and take the first right 200 yards past the pub, (Imperial College Sports Ground Cobham) From the Train Station Come out of the main exit of Cobham station. Turn Right, and walk down station road, when you come to the T junction at the end of the road turn right, over the railway. Walk 200yrd over the bridge, and turn right into the Imperial colledge sports ground, follow the roadway, about 600yrds, and you will see the pavillion. Camping Ground - The Black Swan Pub Come of the M25 at the A3 (Junction 10), drive south on the A3, BEFORE you join the A3 proper turn left, Brown sign posts, a sign to Effingham & Hatchford, and Semaphore Tower, follow this road for 2-3 miles, the first pub you get to on the left is the camp site, (The Black Swan) From the Camping to the Tournament Site Take the road down the side of the pub, and follow signs to cobham. Follow this road, until it ends in a T junction, and then turn left (Signposted Cobham). Follow the road, and you will come to a T junction at Waitrose. Turn right and follow the road ahead, refer to the Tournament site directions. From the Tournament Site to the Camping Turn left out of the tournament site, pass the Old Plough, past the Esso Garage ( both on the left), keep on the road until you get to Waitrose. Turn Left, directly opposite Waitrose, follow the road 2/3 mile, over a river, take the next right. Follow the road, 1-2miles, and the first cross roads you get to the pub is on the right. Bed & Breakfast Name Distance to Cobham Address Pembroke Lodge Guest House 3 miles 35 Cranes Park, Esher, Surrey, KT5 Tel: 0181 3998636 Kingston Guest House 3 miles 15 Heath Road, Weybridge, Surrey, KT13 8TE Tel: 01932 856191 Bronwen 3 miles Crabtree Drive, Givons Grove, Leatherhead, Surrey, Tel: 01372 372515 Silverfirs Bed & Breakfast 4 miles 7a Leatherhead Road, Ashtead, Surrey, KT21 2TW Tel: 01372 272122 Half Moon 4 miles High Street, Ripley, Woking, Surrey, GU23 6AN Tel: 01483 224380 The Bull Inn 5 miles 152 Laleham Road, Shepperton, Middlesex, TW1 0DB Tel: 01932 221667 Angleside Guest House 5 miles 27 Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT18 5BD Tel: 01372 724303 Rosa Bed & Breakfast 5 miles Tuum, Epsom Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT17 1LJ Tel: 0181 3931682 Riverdene Guesthouse 5 miles 22 Bridge Road, Chertsey, Surrey, KT16 8JN Tel: 01932 565593 Shopping Waitrose - Cobham High Street Sainsbury - See tournament directtions. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Ruth.Taylor@bass.com, aflores@lehman.com, David.Whitehead@gs.com, whitehead@cloe.demon.co.uk, glynn@popstar.demon.co.uk, Kevin.Noble@pgen.com, mark.thomas@radius-design.co.uk, nick.dray@geseaco.com, oldtrouts@hotmail.com, Richie@hebrides.co.uk, mta99@bigfoot.com, big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk, timothy.blair@ntli.net, Rowbottn@regents.ac.uk, wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk, WZiants@spencerstuart.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Should have put that in the last email. Sorry From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 10:41:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20768 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:40:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20759 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:40:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16894 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:40:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from eeapp.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.58] helo=eeapp) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11Jw0q-0002kP-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:40:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:37:27 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@eeapp To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: seeking Jedi's Bruce Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Seeking email contact for Bruce from Jedi. Thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 12:39:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07495 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:38:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07489 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:38:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from www2.xoommail.com (colo01-033.xoom.com [206.132.179.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22823 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from service@localhost) by www2.xoommail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17682; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:38:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:38:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199908261138.EAA17682@www2.xoommail.com> X-Loop: xoommail.com From: mta99@bigfoot.com Subject: Lurkers Tournie Pick-Ups To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk An urgent plee for anyone who fancies playing at the Lurkers tournie this weekend. 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Send FREE animated greeting cards for any occasion at http://greetings.xoom.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 15:50:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05802 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:49:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05796 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:49:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01993 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:49:40 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:49:40 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C4D5@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'studio@pyott.co.uk'" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: help Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:49:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can't help Nads, maybe some1 on Britdisk will know.... > -----Original Message----- > From: pyott [mailto:studio@pyott.co.uk] > Sent: 26 August 1999 16:52 > To: Roger Thomson > Subject: help > > > > yo homie its me > > just hoping you can help trying to track down an ex wolves frisbee > player who was aslo a physio some guy called neil cooke?? > > know him and his details?? > if so please let me know as wolves are trying to do a reuinion > and get hold of him or something.... > > hope you know who he is coz i dont! > > lates m8 > > nk > x > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 16:53:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16234 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:52:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16228 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:52:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04712 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:52:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.250.64.118] (helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11K1lT-0002je-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:48:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000001beefde$8459ac00$7640fad4@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: References: Subject: Re: seeking Jedi's Bruce Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:57:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone from Jedi could get in touch with me that would be great. 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Kleckner To: Sent: 26 August 1999 10:37 Subject: seeking Jedi's Bruce > > Seeking email contact for Bruce from Jedi. > > Thanks. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 20:07:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11913 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:06:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11906 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:06:00 +0100 (BST) From: ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Received: from www2.funmail.co.uk ([193.117.244.182]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA14498 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:06:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 18609 invoked by uid 504); 26 Aug 1999 20:03:01 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO www2.funmail.co.uk) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 20:03:01 -0000 Message-ID: <136135279.935697781094.JavaMail.root@localhost> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:02:59 +0000 (GMT) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Do you get the Point? 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Love and Luck Point Blank -- Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmale.co.uk --136137787.935697779832.JavaMail.root@www2.funmail.co.uk-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 26 22:03:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23634 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:02:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23625 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:02:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f126.hotmail.com [209.185.131.189]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA20870 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:02:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 29940 invoked by uid 0); 26 Aug 1999 21:01:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990826210137.29939.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.6.113.187 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:01:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.6.113.187] From: "Old Trouts" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:01:37 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone is thinking of picking up at the Lurkers tourament this weekend then look no further! The Old Trouts are looking for any and all people of all abilities to play for us. So come along on the day, and you will be guarenteed a game. Cheers, Scott ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 09:00:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17304 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17282 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA05029 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:59:08 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA09304 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:58:27 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: National teams: a reply to Sammy Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:55:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sammy aired a question about a week ago- whether a strenghthened club team should represent GB as the national team- which received some responses but his point was largely missed. The idea that a strengthened club team should represent GB, as Sam is well aware, has been around for quite a while. It arose largely due to poor performances by national teams. Many (I'll come clean, myself included) thought these poor performances were due to the national teams not having continuity, cohesion and lacking experience of competition at the appropriate level. There is little doubt that the top club teams posses these three components, hence the idea that the best club side (albeit strenghthened) should represent GB was developed (I'll come clean again, it wasn't me) . How this idea could be implemented is, as Ian Stebbings pointed out, in need of further thought. So here's my answer to Sammy: Open: I don't think sending a strengthened club team to worlds would be a good idea at the momment. In my view none of the current top teams have sufficient ability or know-how to form the core of a national team. All of the top three have strengths for building solid teams, but then they also have glaring weaknesses. Choosing one team to form the core would discard the strengths of the other teams, without addressing its particular weaknesses. Had this question been asked in the early to middle days of shotgun (4-5 years ago), the answer would have been very different. On the plus side, I think the open division has skilled players that can do well at international level. Its just a question of deciding who they are and how they should be put together to form a team. Women: As I'm not part of the women's scene, I have no idea whatsoever how they could form a strong national team, though they clearly have talented players. Perhaps some of the players concerned would like to offer their views? Rafi (22) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 09:34:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21680 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:32:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21675 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11410 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:32:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.250.65.2] (helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11KHNL-0002LV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:28:43 +0100 Message-ID: <002101bef05c$24cc9f80$0241fad4@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: References: Subject: Re: National teams: a reply to Sammy Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:15:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On a similar theme. The World Games in 2001 have been mentioned several times before, but no one has said if the BUF are interested in trying to qualify a British national team. As far as I can tell we would have to finish in the top 4 of 3 of the divisions at worlds next year (I think), and if there was interest in entering a team then this current discussion on squad selection techniques deserves more attention. Is it a realistic aim, getting into the top 4? I believe so, I also believe an appearance at the world games by a GB team would be great publicity for the sport in this country. That's my pennies worth, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: rafael freire To: Sent: 27 August 1999 08:55 Subject: National teams: a reply to Sammy > Sammy aired a question about a week ago- whether a > strenghthened club team should represent GB as the > national team- which received some responses but his > point was largely missed. > > The idea that a strengthened club team should represent > GB, as Sam is well aware, has been around for quite a > while. It arose largely due to poor performances by > national teams. Many (I'll come clean, myself included) > thought these poor performances were due to the national > teams not having continuity, cohesion and lacking > experience of competition at the appropriate level. There > is little doubt that the top club teams posses these three > components, hence the idea that the best club side > (albeit strenghthened) should represent GB was developed > (I'll come clean again, it wasn't me) . How this idea > could be implemented is, as Ian Stebbings pointed out, in > need of further thought. > > So here's my answer to Sammy: > > Open: I don't think sending a strengthened club team to > worlds would be a good idea at the momment. In my view > none of the current top teams have sufficient ability or > know-how to form the core of a national team. All of the > top three have strengths for building solid teams, but > then they also have glaring weaknesses. Choosing one team > to form the core would discard the strengths of the other > teams, without addressing its particular weaknesses. Had > this question been asked in the early to middle days of > shotgun (4-5 years ago), the answer would have been very > different. > > On the plus side, I think the open division has skilled > players that can do well at international level. Its just > a question of deciding who they are and how they should be > put together to form a team. > > Women: As I'm not part of the women's scene, I have no > idea whatsoever how they could form a strong national > team, though they clearly have talented players. Perhaps > some of the players concerned would like to offer their > views? > > Rafi (22) > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 10:07:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26227 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:06:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26214 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:06:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14597 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:06:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KHy9-000F9c-0K; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:06:49 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:03:06 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4747@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'matthew.lowe'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: National teams: a reply to Sammy Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:02:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This (Akita 2001) will undoubtedly be discussed at length at the BUF AGM (Presumably being held on Sat night of Eastbourne as per previous years?). Participation in the World Games is a great opportunity for WFDF and the BUF/BUA alike, but there is a lot to discuss with regards the BUF's aims and how they/we are going to achieve those over the next two years or so. Therefore, I would urge anyone who is interested or has an opinion on Akita to attend the BUF AGM (whenever it may be). Rafi and Sammy and anyone else for that matter may continue to discuss the Open and Womens teams for next year but the overall plan for GB in respect of all five divisions needs to be developed as a whole if GB are to be represented at the World Games. I attended the WFDF congress meeting recently held in St. Andrews during World Clubs (No BUF officer did although I believe they were all at the tournament), where the organisers for the Disc Sports (there's Golf as well as Ultimate) at the World Games were present and they have some interesting views on how to run the tournament within the constraints given. There has been much discussion in WFDF in how to best use the time and allocation and indeed on how to select countries to be represented. These have now been pretty much fixed and it is clear GB does have a realistic chance of being represented in 2001. However this will not happen unless the teams in all divisions we send to WUGC in 2000 are the best possible. I trust some BUF type person can mail anyone who's interested the qualifying criteria, if not I have a paper copy from the meeting and all the details for Akita (flash brochure, schedule, selection process etc). Colin. UTI. -----Original Message----- From: matthew.lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 8:15 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: National teams: a reply to Sammy On a similar theme. The World Games in 2001 have been mentioned several times before, but no one has said if the BUF are interested in trying to qualify a British national team. As far as I can tell we would have to finish in the top 4 of 3 of the divisions at worlds next year (I think), and if there was interest in entering a team then this current discussion on squad selection techniques deserves more attention. Is it a realistic aim, getting into the top 4? I believe so, I also believe an appearance at the world games by a GB team would be great publicity for the sport in this country. That's my pennies worth, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: rafael freire To: Sent: 27 August 1999 08:55 Subject: National teams: a reply to Sammy > Sammy aired a question about a week ago- whether a > strenghthened club team should represent GB as the > national team- which received some responses but his > point was largely missed. > > The idea that a strengthened club team should represent > GB, as Sam is well aware, has been around for quite a > while. It arose largely due to poor performances by > national teams. Many (I'll come clean, myself included) > thought these poor performances were due to the national > teams not having continuity, cohesion and lacking > experience of competition at the appropriate level. There > is little doubt that the top club teams posses these three > components, hence the idea that the best club side > (albeit strenghthened) should represent GB was developed > (I'll come clean again, it wasn't me) . How this idea > could be implemented is, as Ian Stebbings pointed out, in > need of further thought. > > So here's my answer to Sammy: > > Open: I don't think sending a strengthened club team to > worlds would be a good idea at the momment. In my view > none of the current top teams have sufficient ability or > know-how to form the core of a national team. All of the > top three have strengths for building solid teams, but > then they also have glaring weaknesses. Choosing one team > to form the core would discard the strengths of the other > teams, without addressing its particular weaknesses. Had > this question been asked in the early to middle days of > shotgun (4-5 years ago), the answer would have been very > different. > > On the plus side, I think the open division has skilled > players that can do well at international level. Its just > a question of deciding who they are and how they should be > put together to form a team. > > Women: As I'm not part of the women's scene, I have no > idea whatsoever how they could form a strong national > team, though they clearly have talented players. Perhaps > some of the players concerned would like to offer their > views? > > Rafi (22) > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 10:23:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29114 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:21:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29107 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:21:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08438 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:21:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA18643 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:18:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199908270918.KAA18643@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:26:59 +0100 To: "'Britdisc'" From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: RE: National teams: World Games In-Reply-To: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4747@LONSEX02> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At 10:02 AM 8/27/99 +0100, Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] wrote: >I trust some BUF type person can mail anyone who's interested the qualifying >criteria, if not I have a paper copy from the meeting and all the details >for Akita (flash brochure, schedule, selection process etc). > This information is also available on the web (though not in as flashy a format): http://www.wfdf.org/WG2001.html and for more information about world games: http://w ww.worldsport.com/worldsport/sports/world_games/home.html and for more information about Akita http://www.wg2001.or.jp/English /wgeng.html From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 10:31:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01035 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:30:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01019 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:30:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (mail.ntli.net [194.168.5.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16745 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:30:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntli-dev28 ([10.117.5.250]) by mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 549-35819U10000L10000S0) with SMTP id AAA18456; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:30:15 +0100 Message-ID: <007601bef06f$0ceb0ec0$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> From: "Tim Blair" To: "'Britdisc'" , "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: National teams: World Games Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:32:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick note: > This information is also available on the web (though not in as flashy a > format): > http://www.wfdf.org/WG2001.html This URL is wrong. The correct one is http://www.wfdf.org/WG2001.htm The other two are right though... :O) Tim. -- Tim Blair Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate http://www.aber.ac.uk/~club14/ email club14@aber.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 13:06:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24581 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:04:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24568 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:04:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd135.hotmail.com [207.82.252.199]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27622 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:04:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 53162 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 12:10:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19990827121032.53161.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.172.85.166 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:10:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.172.85.166] From: "James Hammersley" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lurkers Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:10:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Does anyone have the directions to Lurkers? Thanks for your hlep Milky ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:04:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00034 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:02:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00024 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:02:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16490 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:02:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 (tne49727.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.112]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05373 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:20 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:20 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199908271603.RAA05373@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WUCC'99 Media Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WUCC’99 - Media Coverage Round-Up Television - Forthcoming: “RAD”, Channel 5, Aug 29, 12.00pm “TransWorld Sport”, Channel 4, Sept 4, 8.00am Sky 2 & 3, Sept 2 (both to be confirmed) “The Great Outdoors”, Grampian & STV, Sept 8, 10.25pm “De A-Nais?” (gaelic kid’s programme), BBC Scotland, Sept/Oct (tbc) Already Broadcast: “Blue Peter”, BBC1, June 7 “Raw”, Carlton, Aug 3 “Reporting Scotland”, BBC Scotland, Aug 9 “North Tonight”, Grampian TV, Aug 11 Newspapers: The Sunday Times (kids’section), Aug 8 The Times, Aug 9 The Scotsman, Aug 11 Also various local newspapers in the St. Andrews area during the week of the event. Magazines: The Big Issue, Scotland, July 29 - Aug 4 Health & Fitness Magazine, August edition Radio: BBC Radio Scotland and Scot FM broadcast interviews and details of the event before and during the tournament. Jonathan Hope & Tara Jewell Media WUCC’99 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:06:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00700 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:06:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00694 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:06:02 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16721 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:06:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22166; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:05:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05107; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:07:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id RAA81196; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:05:18 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:05:12 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990827121032.53161.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Lurkers - 9 am start, MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: j_hammersley@hotmail.com CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Lurkers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA00695 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tournament site - Imperial College Sports Ground Cobham By Car Come off the M25 at the A3 (Junction10), drive north up the A3, take the first exit, take the third exit (towards Cobham), Down a steep hill, to a mini roundabout, (Sainsbury is on the left), go straight over. Carry on to another roundabout, take the second exit, follow this road for 2-3 miles, this will take you though Cobham Village, past an Esso garage on the right, past a pub (The Old Plough) on the right Go over a bridge over the railway, and take the first right 200 yards past the pub, (Imperial College Sports Ground Cobham) From the Train Station Come out of the main exit of Cobham station. Turn Right, and walk down station road, when you come to the T junction at the end of the road turn right, over the railway. Walk 200yrd over the bridge, and turn right into the Imperial colledge sports ground, follow the roadway, about 600yrds, and you will see the pavillion. Camping Ground - The Black Swan Pub Come of the M25 at the A3 (Junction 10), drive south on the A3, BEFORE you join the A3 proper turn left, Brown sign posts, a sign to Effingham & Hatchford, and Semaphore Tower, follow this road for 2-3 miles, the first pub you get to on the left is the camp site, (The Black Swan) From the Camping to the Tournament Site Take the road down the side of the pub, and follow signs to cobham. Follow this road, until it ends in a T junction, and then turn left (Signposted Cobham). Follow the road, and you will come to a T junction at Waitrose. Turn right and follow the road ahead, refer to the Tournament site directions. From the Tournament Site to the Camping Turn left out of the tournament site, pass the Old Plough, past the Esso Garage ( both on the left), keep on the road until you get to Waitrose. Turn Left, directly opposite Waitrose, follow the road 2/3 mile, over a river, take the next right. Follow the road, 1-2miles, and the first cross roads you get to the pub is on the right. Bed & Breakfast Name Distance to Cobham Address Pembroke Lodge Guest House 3 miles 35 Cranes Park, Esher, Surrey, KT5 Tel: 0181 3998636 Kingston Guest House 3 miles 15 Heath Road, Weybridge, Surrey, KT13 8TE Tel: 01932 856191 Bronwen 3 miles Crabtree Drive, Givons Grove, Leatherhead, Surrey, Tel: 01372 372515 Silverfirs Bed & Breakfast 4 miles 7a Leatherhead Road, Ashtead, Surrey, KT21 2TW Tel: 01372 272122 Half Moon 4 miles High Street, Ripley, Woking, Surrey, GU23 6AN Tel: 01483 224380 The Bull Inn 5 miles 152 Laleham Road, Shepperton, Middlesex, TW1 0DB Tel: 01932 221667 Angleside Guest House 5 miles 27 Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT18 5BD Tel: 01372 724303 Rosa Bed & Breakfast 5 miles Tuum, Epsom Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT17 1LJ Tel: 0181 3931682 Riverdene Guesthouse 5 miles 22 Bridge Road, Chertsey, Surrey, KT16 8JN Tel: 01932 565593 Shopping Waitrose - Cobham High Street Sainsbury - See tournament directtions. Casualty St Peter's Hospital Guildford Road, Chertsey, Surrey, KT16 0PZ Tel: 01932 872000 Kingston Hospital Galsworthy Rd Kingston Upon Thames Surrey KT2 7QB Tel: 0208546 7711 Restaurants Indian Cobham Tandoori Restaurant 12c Anyards Road · Cobham · Surrey Telephone 01932 863842 & 866036 Panahar Tandoori Restaurant 124/126 High Street, Esher, Surrey Tel 01372 463081 or 464817 The Taste of Raj 4 High Street, Oxshott, Surrey Tel: 01372 843793/844327 Italian / Pizza Il Giardino 221 Portsmouth Road, Cobham KT11 1JR Tel. 01932 863973 Pizza Express 20-22 Anyards Road Cobham, Surrey Tel: 01932 860 870 Taxi STATION CARS (Cobham) Tel: 01932 863335 Trains LONDON WATERLOO COBHAM to COBHAM AND STOKE D'ABERNON to LONDON WATERLOO Friday 27th August Saturday 28th August Sunday 29th August Depart Arrive Depart Arrive Depart Arrive 16:42 17:20 06:42 07:15 15:33 16:53 * 17:12 17:45 07:12 07:46 16:28 17:03 17:42 18:17 07:42 08:15 16:33 17:53 * 18:09 18:44 08:12 08:45 17:28 18:03 18:25 18:54 08:42 09:15 17:33 18:53 * 18:56 19:31 18:28 19:03 19:12 19:45 18:33 19:53 * 19:42 20:15 20:12 20:46 20:43 21:16 * Need to change trains ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Lurkers Author: j.hammersley (j_hammersley@hotmail.com) at cobo-unix-mime Date: 27/08/1999 13:10 Hi Does anyone have the directions to Lurkers? Thanks for your hlep Milky ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:09:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01552 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01547 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.44]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01419 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11KOYn-0000e2-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:01 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11KOYn-0000XJ-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:01 +0100 To: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: WUCC'99 Media Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:01 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Tara, (and Britdisc) I think we'd all be interested to hear more about the Big Issue coverage. Can you tell us about the article in the July 29 issue? Did they only run one article, or is another planned? Did the English Big Issue ever consider running any articles? Was it all worth it, from our point of view? Thanks David PS can anyone scan in the Big Issue article so we can see it? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:43:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06486 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:42:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06478 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:42:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd93.hotmail.com [207.82.252.157]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03429 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:42:17 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 79389 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 16:41:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19990827164144.79388.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:41:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: WUCC'99 Media Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:41:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear David, (and Britdisc) I wrote the main points of the article and relevant facts the week the magazine came out, just before Worlds. Don't you remeber reading it then? I've since deleted the message, if someone for some inexplicable reason still has a copy in their InBox, perhaps he or she would be kind enough to forward it to David. Bes* Jes* >From: "David J.C. MacKay" >To: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: Re: WUCC'99 Media >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:01 +0100 > >Dear Tara, (and Britdisc) > > I think we'd all be interested to hear more about the >Big Issue coverage. Can you tell us about the article in >the July 29 issue? Did they only run one article, or is >another planned? Did the English Big Issue ever consider >running any articles? Was it all worth it, from our point of view? > > Thanks > > David > >PS can anyone scan in the Big Issue article so we can see it? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:52:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08213 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:51:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08207 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:51:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03880 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:51:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:52:59 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:58:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Jester Bit'" , mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WUCC'99 Media Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:52:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk if someone for some inexplicable reason still has a copy in their InBox... ...that'd be me then, with nothing better to do with my hard drive. btw couldn't help noticing that in the BI issue covering the week of the tourney, there was no mention at all of WUCC, not even in the events diary. Cheers Wayne Albatross & Overflow -----Original Message----- From: Jester Bit [SMTP:jester_bit@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 1:25 PM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate in the Big Issue Issue 232, July 29 - August 4, of the Big Issue in Scotland has the double page report BI said they would publish. I'm not going to type it all out but here are a few highlights: "American football without the ball" Ultimate is a serious sport: you play it with a Frisbee, you can sacrifice cakes before games[?], wear grass skirts on the pitch and take sofas for the substitutes. It's serious all right: serious fun - and the Big Issue in Scotland's sister charity is set to benefit. If you head for the pitches around St Andrews university next week, be prepared to witness some peculiar goings on. People will be 'going ho' (horizontal), some may 'moose'[?], they'll be giving it plenty of Zs and you could even winess a circle of death. Yadda yadda yadda Ultimate yadda Cult sport yadda WUCC99 yadda Not Frisbee, flying disc yadda Two teams of seven yadda Endzones yadda. Dave grayson is the Captain of the team carrying Scottish hopes into WUCC99. "I could never get to grips with football or rugby," says Dave. "I could never get the hang of pulling someone's jersey or kicking theier ankles. I wasn't good at any of that." [Dave will have his knitting taken away from him and undergo 'Corrective Re-Education' to turn him back into the disc hungry D machine we know and love before Worlds] Yadda yadda yadda No referees yadda Sport on the rise in Scotland yadda Spirit yadda Fund raising for BI yadda. According to the organisers, the pairing [of Ultimate & the BI] is ideal. Jon Hope, spokesman for WUCC99 explains "We think the charity, its ethos and the image of the BI are all highly compatible with Ultimate's dynamicism and emphasis on self relience and spirit." Yadda the rest of teh article stresses how Ultimate wants to be taken seriously but not lose the fun element. A good article overall, and a nice pic of Dave (attachment too large to be sent to britdisc - please contact Jester if would like a copy sent to you directly) but unfortunately they haven't printed any details of how to contact anyone invovled in Ultimate in the UK along side it e.g. the BUF URL? If you turn a few pages though you do get a full page ad in colour for WUCC with a nice pic of DoG v Sweden, the WUCC99 URL and a St Andrews phone number (which I guess is the Uni's). Good work fellas and respect to Jon and Tara for getting this coverage. Bes* Jes* "Jester Bit" > -----Original Message----- > From: Jester Bit [SMTP:jester_bit@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 5:42 PM > To: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: WUCC'99 Media > > Dear David, (and Britdisc) > > I wrote the main points of the article and relevant facts the week the > magazine came out, just before Worlds. Don't you remeber reading it then? > > I've since deleted the message, if someone for some inexplicable reason > still has a copy in their InBox, perhaps he or she would be kind enough to > > forward it to David. > > Bes* > Jes* > > > > >From: "David J.C. MacKay" > >To: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > >Subject: Re: WUCC'99 Media > >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:09:01 +0100 > > > >Dear Tara, (and Britdisc) > > > > I think we'd all be interested to hear more about the > >Big Issue coverage. Can you tell us about the article in > >the July 29 issue? Did they only run one article, or is > >another planned? Did the English Big Issue ever consider > >running any articles? Was it all worth it, from our point of view? > > > > Thanks > > > > David > > > >PS can anyone scan in the Big Issue article so we can see it? > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 17:56:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09219 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:55:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09205 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:55:40 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20594 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:55:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:55:57 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16974; Fri, 27 Aug 99 17:55:52 BST Message-Id: <9908271655.AA16974@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:55:35 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Re: WUCC'99 Media X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jester's summary of the BI article follows; Dear David, (and Britdisc) I wrote the main points of the article and relevant facts the week the magazine came out, just before Worlds. Don't you remeber reading it then? I've since deleted the message, if someone for some inexplicable reason still has a copy in their InBox, perhaps he or she would be kind enough to forward it to David. Bes* Jes* Date sent: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:25:02 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jester Bit Subject: Ultimate in the Big Issue Issue 232, July 29 - August 4, of the Big Issue in Scotland has the double page report BI said they would publish. I'm not going to type it all out but here are a few highlights: "American football without the ball" Ultimate is a serious sport: you play it with a Frisbee, you can sacrifice cakes before games[?], wear grass skirts on the pitch and take sofas for the substitutes. It's serious all right: serious fun - and the Big Issue in Scotland's sister charity is set to benefit. If you head for the pitches around St Andrews university next week, be prepared to witness some peculiar goings on. People will be 'going ho' (horizontal), some may 'moose'[?], they'll be giving it plenty of Zs and you could even winess a circle of death. Yadda yadda yadda Ultimate yadda Cult sport yadda WUCC99 yadda Not Frisbee, flying disc yadda Two teams of seven yadda Endzones yadda. Dave grayson is the Captain of the team carrying Scottish hopes into WUCC99. "I could never get to grips with football or rugby," says Dave. "I could never get the hang of pulling someone's jersey or kicking theier ankles. I wasn't good at any of that." [Dave will have his knitting taken away from him and undergo 'Corrective Re-Education' to turn him back into the disc hungry D machine we know and love before Worlds] Yadda yadda yadda No referees yadda Sport on the rise in Scotland yadda Spirit yadda Fund raising for BI yadda. According to the organisers, the pairing [of Ultimate & the BI] is ideal. Jon Hope, spokesman for WUCC99 explains "We think the charity, its ethos and the image of the BI are all highly compatible with Ultimate's dynamicism and emphasis on self relience and spirit." Yadda the rest of teh article stresses how Ultimate wants to be taken seriously but not lose the fun element. A good article overall, and a nice pic of Dave (attachment too large to be sent to britdisc - please contact Jester if would like a copy sent to you directly) but unfortunately they haven't printed any details of how to contact anyone invovled in Ultimate in the UK along side it e.g. the BUF URL? If you turn a few pages though you do get a full page ad in colour for WUCC with a nice pic of DoG v Sweden, the WUCC99 URL and a St Andrews phone number (which I guess is the Uni's). Good work fellas and respect to Jon and Tara for getting this coverage. Bes* Jes* "Jester Bit" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 18:56:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17699 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:55:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17688 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:55:49 +0100 (BST) From: Gussvictor@aol.com Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24814 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:55:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from Gussvictor@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 8WKIa09412 (3895) for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2a49ba80.24f82af9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:55:05 EDT Subject: American (Bloody Yank) looking to get involved in London Ultimate To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have just moved to London from the U.S., and I am looking to get involved in the Ultimate scene here. Experience wise, I have been playing on the starting lineup for DoG for the past 6 years! Just kidding. :-) Seriously, though, I have been playing Ultimate for the past six and a half years in Philadelphia. First college, and then club, so I do have some good experience. I would like to know if anyone can recommend anyplace to play pickup, and if there are any teams that are looking for players, either indoor or outdoor. Thanks for your help. Hope to meet some of you out on the fields. Cheers, Vic Guss From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 27 23:02:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10210 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10205 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:01:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04854 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:01:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KU3f-0006p4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:01:15 +0100 Received: from modem-43.tyrloses.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.131.171] helo=default) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KU33-0001iF-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:00:37 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bef0d6$caadadc0$ab83883e@default> From: "Lewis" To: Subject: Ultimate in London Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:53:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEF0DE.F504EFE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEF0DE.F504EFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I'm looking for an Ultimate team to play with in London, both indoors = and outdoors. I was playing for a uni side but unfortunately it looks like I will not = be able to continue my study. If anybody with any info can get in touch with me that would be great. Cheers Loopy. loopy@cwcom.net ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEF0DE.F504EFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
 
I'm looking for an Ultimate team to = play with in=20 London, both indoors and outdoors.
I was playing for a uni side but = unfortunately=20 it looks like I will not be able to continue my study.
If anybody with any info can get in = touch with=20 me that would be great.
 
Cheers
Loopy.
 
loopy@cwcom.net
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEF0DE.F504EFE0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Aug 28 18:35:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01334 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:33:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01329 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:33:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f116.hotmail.com [216.32.181.116]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01662 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:33:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 73889 invoked by uid 0); 28 Aug 1999 17:33:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990828173317.73888.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.140.126.108 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:33:15 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.140.126.108] From: "Alistair Topping" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Anyone need a player??? Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:33:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi my name's Ali and I'm looking for a temperary team to play for on the Saturday and Sunday of British Nationals. Please help me. I have been playing for about 4 years and went to Minneapolis with the GB juniors in 98. If anyone can help I'd be grateful if you could reply. Ali Topping P.s. I'm still a junior! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 29 20:56:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27419 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:55:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27413 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:55:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f195.hotmail.com [216.32.181.195]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA14503 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:55:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 29649 invoked by uid 0); 29 Aug 1999 19:54:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19990829195428.29648.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.197.52 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:54:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.197.52] From: "Steve Pawlowski" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate at Olympics? Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:54:28 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me if and when Ultimate will be featuring at the Olympic and/or Commonwealth games? I think I heard someone say something about it a while back, and just wondered if anyone could confirm it for me. Thanks very much for your help. Steve. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 29 23:35:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA17138 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:33:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17132 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:33:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe19.hotmail.com [216.32.180.123]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19688 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:33:33 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 39602 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Aug 1999 22:33:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990829223301.39601.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [212.140.77.23] From: "Alistair Topping" To: "BRIT DISC" Subject: Anyone need a player Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:11:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BEF273.E31F6940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BEF273.E31F6940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi my name's Ali and I'm looking for a temporary team to play for on the Saturday and Sunday of British Open! Please help me. I have been playing for about 4 years and went to Minneapolis with the GB juniors in = 98. If anyone can help I'd be grateful if you could reply. Ali Topping P.s. I'm still a junior! ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BEF273.E31F6940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi my name's Ali and I'm looking for a = temporary=20 team to play for on the
Saturday and Sunday of British Open! Please = help me.=20 I have been
playing for about 4 years and went to Minneapolis with = the GB=20 juniors in 98.

If anyone can help I'd be grateful if you could=20 reply.

Ali Topping

P.s. I'm still a=20 junior!
------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BEF273.E31F6940-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 30 07:49:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11829 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11821 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23651 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA10104 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199908300647.HAA10104@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Comment THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 30 16:09:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09014 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:07:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09008 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:07:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd124.hotmail.com [207.82.252.188]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29157 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:07:27 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 56586 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 15:06:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990830150655.56585.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:06:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Seekeing international contacts Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:06:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone has a particulary extensive address book, he or she might have a contact for Discus, Skogshyddans (open), Liquidisc or Condors he or she may feel like passing on to me please? Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 30 17:04:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16444 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:04:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16438 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:03:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15559 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:03:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 (tnc09783.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.62]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA26159 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:04:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:04:42 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199908301604.RAA26159@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB debate - a women's perspective Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Following Rafi's prompt, here's a female perspective on the top (women's) club team representing GB (with guests) debate! I don't think women's ultimate is at a sufficient number yet to make this viable. As at the end of most outdoor seasons I have seen so far, players are leaving to go home/travel/retire etc and so a clubs player base needs replenishing. In order to do this in time to represent GB next year, at our current standard, there is a danger that only established players would be asked to join, whose goals match those of the remaining club players. With today's current number of women players around these are likely to be the same women who are selected for the GB squad anyway. By working towards Clubs for 2002?, and not Worlds in a years time, I would hope that newer players who show potential are more likely to be brought on board and trained and leave other more established players to bring on other women's teams between now and then. Only when there are sufficient numbers of players for the top club team to be able to survive with its core intact at the end of any year, and still be the top club team, should this idea be entertained. Further, I'm not even sure then that this proves to be the best team to represent the Country. Taking the USA as an example, I believe Godiva are the most consistant club team to win Nationals (and so represent the USA at Worlds), but have finished behind Verge at the last 2 World Clubs - 97 and 99. Their poorer performance away from home could be due to the cost of travelling abroad (and so lacking a complete squad) or they may lack what is needed to win at International competitions - either way, it's questionable that they are the best team to represent their Country. This debate is slightly different to the States in that it was suggested that it be the best club team plus guests (which I don't believe happens in the States, I think they send just club team players?). I think that the 'plus guests' turns the club team practically into the GB team, under the club team name, so maybe the debate should just be GB team or best club team. Lastly, something new to be debated - this years experience has shown me that a non playing coach is a definite advantage, and in my view, the way forward - whether it be for the GB team or a club team! Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 10:09:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11767 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:08:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11760 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:08:06 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25789 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:08:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:07:10 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24894; Tue, 31 Aug 99 10:07:05 BST Message-Id: <9908310907.AA24894@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:06:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Lurkers Lost Property X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm mailing on behalf of Paul Dickinson of the Wyld Stallyns who managed to leave his bag with his kit and clothes changes on the side of the pitch at the final of the lurkers tournament. Can Cliff Bottomley or anyone else who might have seen a green Eurohike bag lying around on sunday get in touch with paul at paul.dickinson@bt.com cheers, Pete From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 10:20:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13768 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:19:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13758 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:19:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26461 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:19:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Lk4U-0002uI-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:19:18 +0100 Received: from modem-119.name13.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.166.119] helo=SNOWHITE) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Lk2C-0005aG-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:16:56 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Pete Harvey" To: "BritDisc" Subject: RE: Lurkers Lost Property Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:17:18 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9908310907.AA24894@damson.open.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk further lost property: the entire team strip of the bullfrogs is missing! if anyone has a faded tan/green Clapham Bullfrogs baseball cap, can they return it to doug - dougie@wouldilie.com thanx Harv > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of p.m.connor@open.ac.uk > Sent: 31 August 1999 10:07 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Lurkers Lost Property > > > I'm mailing on behalf of Paul Dickinson of the Wyld Stallyns who > managed to leave his bag with his kit and clothes changes on the > side of the pitch at the final of the lurkers tournament. Can Cliff > Bottomley or anyone else who might have seen a green Eurohike > bag lying around on sunday get in touch with paul at > paul.dickinson@bt.com > > cheers, > Pete > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 11:22:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25722 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:21:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25705 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:21:07 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02737 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:21:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00581 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:20:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04767 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:22:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id LAA62750 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:20:33 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:20:32 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Lurkers Tournament Results MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1. Clapham Bulfrogs (Champions) 2. Funky Monks (Spirit) 3. First Touch 4. Village People 5. Slip Disc 6. LURKERS 7. Mud Culture 8. Wyld Stallions 9. Night Fever (Plate Winners) 10.Red 11.Phat Eds 12.Playthings 13.Super Fly 14.Trouts Thanks for playing. CLiff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 11:51:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01915 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:50:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01908 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:50:09 +0100 (BST) From: paul.dickinson@bt.com Received: from babelfish.axion.bt.co.uk (babelfish.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.17.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05100 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:50:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from cbibipnt01.hc.bt.com by babelfish.axion.bt.co.uk (local) with ESMTP; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:47:59 +0100 Received: by cbibipnt01.hc.bt.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:47:44 +0100 Message-ID: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lost bag at Lurkers tourney Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:47:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I left a large green 'Eurohike' bag at the side of the pitch in front of the pavilion on Sunday afternoon. I left before the end of the final, so I wasn't around for the lost property bit. I'm hoping Cliff Bottomley's got it but I haven't been able to contact him as yet. Did anyone see it or know where it is now? It's full of kit and clothes so I'm quite anxious to track it down. Cheers Paul Paul Dickinson BT Worldwide Knowledge Management Group Tel +44 1908 356270 Fax +44 1908 393917 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 13:41:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22242 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:39:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22222 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:39:46 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10297 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:39:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29891 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:39:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30925 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:41:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id NAA22712 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:39:10 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:39:00 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Lost property at the Lurkers Tournament MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have given some lost property to CHRIS HUGHES, this is what I picked up today: 1 Eurohike Bag: 1 Plastic Bag 2 pairs of shoes inside. 1 pair of other shoes 1 Hat 1 Towel Please call or email me, if anything rings a bell, tel 01932 861461. cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 14:34:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02655 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:32:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02648 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:32:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15352 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:32:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Lo1r-0008Hx-0K; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:32:51 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:19:14 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4753@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'jewell tara s'" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: TV bits from Worlds Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:19:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tara, Bit of a suggestion here, you & John may have already been thinking about, but in case you hadn't...... Presumably, you have a copy of all of the TV media stuff from Worlds that has already been broadcast and you will be sent a copy of those still to be shown. How about putting all the clips together, into some sort of Montage and see if you can show it at Eastbourne and/or Nationals so that everyone can see it. I think everyone would be keen to see the coverage you managed to get for Worlds and it also show what a good job you and John did in generating so much interest. Just an idea. Colin. P.S. I have a10 minute or so piece from the Pre Worlds tourney shown on RAW TV if you want that too. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 14:39:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03877 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:39:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03865 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:38:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from aligrafix.co.uk (merry.aligrafix.co.uk [193.123.31.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16220 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:38:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc8 (193.123.31.38) by aligrafix.co.uk with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:38:51 +0100 Message-ID: <006d01bef3b6$4758ec40$261f7bc1@pc8.aligrafix.co.uk> From: "Michael Beaton" To: Subject: Midlands junior ultimate? Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:39:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Got this message from an interested junior. He is, of course, welcome to come and play with us, and I'll get back to him if I don't hear of anything more suitable for him; but can anyone let me know details of any youth Ultimate in this area (he lives somewhere between Oxford and Banbury), so that I am more informed when I contact him. Cheers, Mike (Sharks) -----Original Message----- From: Ray Haslam To: mike.beaton@aligrafix.co.uk Date: Tuesday, 31 August 1999 14:05 Subject: ultimate >Dear Mike, > I'm thinking of starting ultimate , I live in kirtlington - Which >makes you my nearest club. I'm 15 at the beggining of October , and was >wondering if there is a team for my age group? Please reply soon. Thanks >Ray > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 14:45:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05219 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:44:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05213 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:44:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (mail.ntli.net [194.168.5.125]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17154 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:44:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntli-dev28 ([10.117.5.250]) by mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 549-35819U10000L10000S0) with SMTP id AAA16878 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:44:16 +0100 Message-ID: <01ed01bef3b7$4a90f050$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> From: "Tim Blair" To: Subject: Re: TV bits from Worlds Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:46:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Presumably, you have a copy of all of the TV media stuff from Worlds > that has already been broadcast and you will be sent a copy of those still > to be shown. How about putting all the clips together, into some sort of > Montage and see if you can show it at Eastbourne and/or Nationals so that > everyone can see it. Sounds good - and get some copies done for the students to buy for freshers fairs!!! Tim. -- Tim Blair Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate http://www.aber.ac.uk/~club14/ email club14@aber.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 31 22:21:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17685 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:19:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17680 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:19:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25963 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:19:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11LvJi-0003SO-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:19:48 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:40:14 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: TV bits from Worlds References: <01ed01bef3b7$4a90f050$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> In-Reply-To: <01ed01bef3b7$4a90f050$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone got the technology (and the server space!) to convert all the various TV clips into a format that can be seen on the web??? Wayne Tim Blair writes > > Presumably, you have a copy of all of the TV media stuff from Worlds > > that has already been broadcast and you will be sent a copy of those >still > > to be shown. How about putting all the clips together, into some sort of > > Montage and see if you can show it at Eastbourne and/or Nationals so that > > everyone can see it. > >Sounds good - and get some copies done for the students to buy for freshers >fairs!!! > >Tim. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 11:28:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03979 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:26:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03974 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:26:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20945 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:26:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.250.33.156] (helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11M7X0-0002iF-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bef45e$6ce06120$9c21fad4@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: References: <199908300647.HAA10104@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Indoors Pitch size Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:28:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anybody give me the dimensions for the average indoor ultimate pitch? I would be most greatful as I am looking at possible indoor venues near my home. Thanks, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 14:48:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06743 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:46:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06669 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:46:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25178 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:46:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06141 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:46:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 1 Sep 99 14:46:08 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 1 Sep 99 14:45:45 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:45:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Indoor Rule Clarification X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What is the rule is about the position of the pivot foot when you pick up a disc on the edge of the pitch indoors? Or in other words, if the edge of the pitch is a wall, does your foot have to be up against the wall, or can you step away from the wall and then pick up the disc? In addition, how does the rule apply if during play the disc hits the wall causing a turnover, and the defensive team takes the disc to where it went out? Must the player in possession have his/her pivot foot against the wall, or can he/she take a pace off the side before establishing a pivot foot? Note the difference is that one has no option about picking up the disc before establishing a pivot foot. Tim SOUP Ro - Sham - Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 14:58:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09742 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:57:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09731 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:57:11 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:59:31 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: off to Florida! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Helen Myers" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:33:49 BST Hello, Just a quick note to let you all know that within the next month I am moving to Tampa, Florida - assuming the visa comes through! My previous e-mail account is no longer operable but, this one should be fine if anyone wants to stay in touch. It's been great playing over here and hopefully I can take some of what I've learnt (both on and off the pitch) to benefit my new team - The Hucksters. Have fun, keep smiling ... Love and layouts, Helen Myers (Twin Peaks, Whiplash etc.) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 15:35:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17173 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17167 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from interleaf.com (ileaf.prospect.com [137.103.1.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29441 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from hq.interleaf.com (fw.ileaf.com) by interleaf.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21067; Wed, 1 Sep 99 10:35:35 EDT Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.interleaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id KAA01280; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:33:42 -0400 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA00789; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:36:09 +0100 Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:34:07 +0100 Message-Id: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAE5AE823@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Indoors Pitch size Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:34:06 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I believe the official indoor pitch (EFDF) is supposed to be the same as a Handball Court, but I don't know exactly what that is. The numbers 20m x 40m (inc 6m endzones) spring to mind, but are generally irrelevent (even if I have remembered correctly) as you will probably not find anywhere in UK that big that you can afford. Wayne Retter may know what size Newport, Cheltenham (Chris?) and other standard venues are. -- Neil Travers work: Fluid Druids home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 15:44:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19853 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:44:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19847 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:43:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from interleaf.com (ileaf.prospect.com [137.103.1.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA00537 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:43:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hq.interleaf.com (fw.ileaf.com) by interleaf.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21304; Wed, 1 Sep 99 10:45:31 EDT Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.interleaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id KAA01544; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA00950; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:46:07 +0100 Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:44:05 +0100 Message-Id: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAE5AE824@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Indoor Rule Clarification Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:44:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If there are lines before reaching the walls then it should be no different from outdoors. The disc goes to where it went out. If the walls are the lines the rules do appear to be different, but I'm not sure if that's official (the indoor rules are difficult, if not impossible, to find written down). BUT, forcing people to take it from the line when that is either the wall or right next to the wall would seem (to me) to be unfair. You should still, at least, be able to pivot without hitting the wall. Ideally this should be because there is space outside the pitch before reaching the wall. I think that is where the strange indoor rules come from. -- Neil Travers work: Fluid Druids home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 16:40:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03334 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:39:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03324 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:39:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23113 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:39:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.24.12] (root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 11MCSn-0006I5-00; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:38:17 +0100 Received: from benjamcr by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 11MCSx-0002cY-00; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:38:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:38:27 +0100 (BST) From: Benjamin Crick To: Wayne Retter cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: TV bits from Worlds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey Wayne I have the relevant hardware to convert the video to AVI or MPG files. I may even have some server space to put towards the idea. I'll be at nationals with the Mohawks if you you want to pursue the idea further. Ben "Stroke" Crick On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Wayne Retter wrote: > Anyone got the technology (and the server space!) to convert all the > various TV clips into a format that can be seen on the web??? > > Wayne > > Tim Blair writes > > > Presumably, you have a copy of all of the TV media stuff from Worlds > > > that has already been broadcast and you will be sent a copy of those > >still > > > to be shown. How about putting all the clips together, into some sort of > > > Montage and see if you can show it at Eastbourne and/or Nationals so that > > > everyone can see it. > > > >Sounds good - and get some copies done for the students to buy for freshers > >fairs!!! > > > >Tim. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 21:36:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10783 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:35:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10776 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:35:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05707 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:35:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11MH6N-000J6c-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:35:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:33:57 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: TV bits from Worlds References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Benjamin Crick writes >Hey Wayne > I have the relevant hardware to convert the video to AVI or MPG >files. I may even have some server space to put towards the idea. > >I'll be at nationals with the Mohawks if you you want to pursue the idea >further. and he wasn't the only one with the capability for this (thanks also to Pete, Nolan and Sean)... So, is it worth the BUF following up on this potential and getting the various video footage onto the web? Anyone know what the copyright regs are? e.g. Will Channel 4 get stroppy if we put their documentary on the web? Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 1 21:49:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12526 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:48:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12514 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:48:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25516 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:48:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11MHIq-000KNz-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:48:21 +0000 Message-ID: <5ch8PXA3CZz3Ewrx@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:46:47 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Indoors Pitch size References: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAE5AE823@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> In-Reply-To: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAE5AE823@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Travers, Neil writes >I believe the official indoor pitch (EFDF) is supposed to be the same as a >Handball Court, but I don't know exactly what that is. The numbers 20m x >40m (inc 6m endzones) spring to mind, Yep, these are the recommended sizes... but Neil's close in the following statement: > but are generally irrelevent (even if >I have remembered correctly) as you will probably not find anywhere in UK >that big that you can afford. There aren't many places that size, and those that are, are expensive. >Wayne Retter may know what size Newport, Cheltenham (Chris?) and other >standard venues are. Um... the entire hall at the Newport Centre is 36m by 32m, so we play on roughly 35m length, with 18m width, and use short (3m ?) endzones and works out to being one of the largest indoor pitches in the country! Wayne PS: To those of you that haven't worked it out yet, an "official" Indoor Pitch is not much different in size to an Outdoor EndZone! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 04:19:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24795 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:17:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA24788 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:17:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f105.hotmail.com [209.185.131.168]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA09289 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:17:37 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 78166 invoked by uid 0); 2 Sep 1999 03:17:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19990902031705.78165.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.228.242.97 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:17:03 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.228.242.97] From: "Angels Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Indoor Rule Clarification Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:17:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk When the walls are the lines or the lines are very close to the walls then I've no idea what the rules say or whether there are any rules. But the common practice in my experience is that the team that has gained possession as a result of the disc hitting the wall does not take the disc back to the point where the disc hit the wall. Instead the disc is simply picked up and put into play from whatever part of the court it has ended up in just the same as if it had been an incomplete pass. Since most discs that hit a wall bounce away from it the problem of having a pivot foot jammed up against the wall simply never occurs. If a disc does strike a wall and come to rest right next to it then, following the customary practice above, the player picking it up is entitled to put her feet wherever she wants as she picks it up. In other words most players will plant their pivot foot away as far away from the wall as possible, stretch to pick up the disc, and put it into play with a full pivot available. The only time (I can think of) when you can get stuck is when the disc is turned over in your own endzone and it comes to rest next to the wall. Then you are obliged, as usual, to place one foot at a point on the goal line that is perpendicular to where the disc was in the endzone, i.e. a foot has to go against the wall. The thing to do in this situation is to make sure it is your non-pivot foot that is against the wall. Then you can put your pivot foot as far away from the wall as you can and pivot away. If you are a right-handed player in this situation on the left side of your endzone then it means you start with your back to the marker and pivot away from the wall to face the field. No big deal. In my experience this is the usual practice and for what its worth I think it is the best approach. I have heard the occasional argument about bringing the disc back to the point where it hit the wall but I can't think of any point in playing this way. - It does not add to the flow or playability of the game but rather it detracts from both. - Given that you can't attempt to curl the disc out and back in again it makes more sense to treat it as an incomplete pass, because essentially that's what it is. - Given the shorter distances involved indoors loss of possession is a sufficient penalty for any botched throw. Loss of yardage is unecessarily harsh and does not deter anything that is not already deterred by loss of possession. Barring the production of some obscure Scandiwegian rulebook I guess the final say in any given match is presently with the tournament director. Si Barry Angels H 0171 733 8155 M 07771 715 068 E sibarry@hotmail.com PS Angels are a co-ed team based in Brixton who play indoors all year round. Any London player starting to feel the call of the hard floor landing is welcome to come and play. >From: "Travers, Neil" >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: RE: Indoor Rule Clarification >Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:44:04 +0100 > >If there are lines before reaching the walls then it should be no different >from outdoors. The disc goes to where it went out. > >If the walls are the lines the rules do appear to be different, but I'm not >sure if that's official (the indoor rules are difficult, if not impossible, >to find written down). > >BUT, forcing people to take it from the line when that is either the wall >or >right next to the wall would seem (to me) to be unfair. You should still, >at least, be able to pivot without hitting the wall. Ideally this should >be >because there is space outside the pitch before reaching the wall. I think >that is where the strange indoor rules come from. > > >-- >Neil Travers work: >Fluid Druids home: ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 09:35:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12293 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:34:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12283 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:34:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21699 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA17161; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:31:18 +0100 Message-Id: <199909020831.JAA17161@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 09:39:14 +0100 To: Wayne Retter , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: TV bits from Worlds In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I too have access to the facilities to do this sort of thing - and plenty of server space. >So, is it worth the BUF following up on this potential and getting the >various video footage onto the web? > >Anyone know what the copyright regs are? e.g. Will Channel 4 get stroppy >if we put their documentary on the web? > The answer to this is almost definitly yes - however they won't notice unless anyone actually informs them... Another issue is that any footage of the entire documentary (or comparable length) would be extremely painful to download. Several shorter clips of highlights or coverage from the worlds seems much more feasable. Perhaps the entire thing could be made avialable on CD (but then there is no real advantage of this over video). I suspect the only way to do this i any case is for one (or more) of us to get hold of the tapes and just go ahead and do it. (Does all the footage exist in one place/tape?) In a related issue anyone interested should look at http://www.whatisultimate.com and let me know what you think of the site - anyone interested in helping to expand it would be very welcome. And if you have an ultimate related website check out: www.whatisultimate.com/partners Barry From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 11:32:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29466 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:30:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29455 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:30:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29100 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:30:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA24426 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:30:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 2 Sep 99 11:30:18 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 2 Sep 99 11:30:06 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:29:56 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Indoor Rulebook X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Would it not be worth producing an indoor rulebook? It need not be very long, maybe just a sheet of A4 illustrating the differences in rule between indoor and outdoor ultimate. Incidently, can you call a double team just on the endzone line against the 4 man zone defence, assuming one of your players is not in the vincinity. I don't see why you couldn't, but I can see it causing a lot of angst. Also, bearing in mind the size of British indoor endzones, is it worth introducing further rules to make it unadvantageous to set up a 4 man zone defence. In pool games the zones can be so small that once a team goes a few points down the other team can sit in their endzone and just wait for the opposition to try and 'force it'. For example, maybe the double team distance could be increased to 4 meters instead of 3. Tim SOUP Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 11:40:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01539 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:39:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01529 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:39:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29781 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:39:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 (ts409352.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.131]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16454 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:40:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:40:32 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199909021040.LAA16454@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Transworld & Sky Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Transworld Sport have moved the Clubs coverage to: Thursday 9th, Sky Sport 2 & 3 Saturday 11th, Transworld Sport, Channel 4, 8-9am From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 11:46:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02938 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:45:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02929 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:45:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00160 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:45:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from neil-s-laptop ([203.96.101.59]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990902104805.XWLQ2478302.mta2-rme@neil-s-laptop> for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:48:05 +1200 Message-ID: <001101bef52f$e73f35a0$3b6560cb@neil-s-laptop> From: "Neil Cooper" To: Subject: Indoors ..... Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:42:47 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEF594.7A9E1D20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEF594.7A9E1D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's my few points on the matter of zone defence indoors ... 1. Why all this talk of indoor when it was the 1st day of spring = yesterday ??? 2. If you think zone defence indoors is bad in the UK - in NZ they play = 'keyhole' end zones ... i.e. the basketball shooting zone without the = top semi-circle. We sometimes have 2 players on the opposition who = manage to constrain the zone just as well as the 4 man zone defence that = the dull teams play in the UK. 3. Outdoor season starting proper next month ......... Coops (xHeadrush #14 down under) ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BEF594.7A9E1D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's my few = points on the=20 matter of zone defence indoors ...
 
1. Why all this talk of indoor when it was the 1st = day of=20 spring yesterday ???
 
2. If you think zone defence indoors is bad in the = UK - in NZ=20 they play 'keyhole' end zones ... i.e. the basketball shooting zone = without the=20 top semi-circle. We sometimes have 2 players on the opposition who = manage to=20 constrain the zone just as well as the 4 man zone defence that the dull = teams=20 play in the UK.
 
3. Outdoor season starting proper = next month=20 .........
 
Coops (xHeadrush #14 down under)
 
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And it does happen occasionally. The difficulty is that it is rare to not have one your own players within 3m of the extra defenders. I think changing the stalling distance indoors would be a _bad_ idea. The offence isn't really at a disadvantage indoors are they? -- Neil Travers work: Fluid Druids home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 11:58:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05804 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:57:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05796 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:57:20 +0100 (BST) From: darren.evans@target-systems.com Received: from FIREWALL.target-systems.com (mail.target-systems.com [194.168.207.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA02178 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:57:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from as400a.target-systems.com by FIREWALL.target-systems.com (IBM Firewall for AS/400/4.2.0) id LAA002.78; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:55:43 GMT Received: by as400a.target-systems.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 802567E0.003C0547 ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:55:35 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: TARGET To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <802567E0.003C045B.00@as400a.target-systems.com> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:56:40 +0100 Subject: RE: Indoor Rule Clarification Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Angels Ultimate wrote: ""But the common practice in my experience is that the team that has gained possession as a result of the disc hitting the wall does not take the disc back to the point where the disc hit the wall. Instead the disc is simply picked up and put into play from whatever part of the court it has ended up in just the same as if it had been an incomplete pass."" .In my experience, if the disc hits the wall on the pull, it is taken from the point at which it hits the wall and is 'middled'. The same as it would if it went out on the pull outdoors. i therefore do not see why the rule should not apply for turnovers. For example: If the 'O' team huck a long pass, end-zone bound, and it hits the wall but lands in the 'D' teams end-zone, then the 'D' team are within their rights to walk the disk back to the point of contact with the wall. They should not be penalised yardage for the sloppy offence of the opposition. ""I have heard the occasional argument about bringing the disc back to the point where it hit the wall but I can't think of any point in playing this way."" .Many indoor tournaments are played in leisure centres with a dividing net between pitches. I've never seen a disc bounce off a net! Therefore we would need 2 separate rules. One for each side of the pitch!! It is probably best left to the particular TD to rule as they see fit. Merely an opinion Two Hands Night Fever Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 13:38:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19874 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:37:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19862 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:37:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09365 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:37:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.55.252] (th-en138-252.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.55.252]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA11561 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:36:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: BritOpen99 2 more places Message-Id: <000000334573019120616@daletaylor.co.uk> From: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:36:56 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Britdisc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA19864 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Now that we've gone well past the payment of deposits deadline, there are a lot less teams listed for the open than was originally the case. 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Thanks Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 15:23:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05897 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05883 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway1.sema.co.uk (gateway1.sema.co.uk [194.216.60.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17734 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from lonns01.sema.co.uk ([157.203.40.61]) by gateway1.sema.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07683 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:22:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from lones1.sema.co.uk (unverified) by lonns01.sema.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:21:51 +0100 Message-Id: Received: by lones1.sema.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:25:47 +0100 From: MUDGE Damian To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoors rules - yeah right! Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:18:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Slow day at work so here goes with some dangerous opinions of my own. Darren writes " In my experience, if the disc hits the wall on the pull, it is taken from the point at which it hits the wall and is 'middled'. The same as it would if it went out on the pull outdoors. i therefore do not see why the rule should not apply for turnovers. For example: ..... They should not be penalised yardage for the sloppy offence of the opposition." Fair point, but I tend to prefer restarting play from where the disk lands for a couple of reasons: (a) the defence has less time to set up than if I walk the disc back to it's original point of contact - it's fair to say that a team are at their most vunerable in the moments just after they have turned over (b) yardage isn't really an issue indoors - good teams can score a point with a throw from just about anywhere on the pitch (let's hear it for the hammer). A lot of teams make life difficult for themselves by having all their players(and hence markers assuming the absence of outrageous poaching) ahead of the thrower making it even harder to play in the cramped space (note that's a plug for outdoors there!). With reference to Tim's earlier mail, point taken about 'endzone zone' making life difficult to score in small endzones, but then isn't that the whole point? Why penalise a team who adopts this strategy? Some teams play an indoor zone on the whole pitch - would you penalise them too? An offence should not struggle for too long if they pivot and fake. Pitch size varies according to the sportshall being used and I think this is why up until now the rules have also varied and been governed by the tournament director - lets leave it that way otherwise we might be accused of taking indoors seriously :-) Damo ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 2 15:57:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11476 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:56:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11471 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:56:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd126.hotmail.com [207.82.252.190]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA21581 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:56:05 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 66610 invoked by uid 0); 2 Sep 1999 14:55:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990902145529.66609.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 07:55:29 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Indoors rules - yeah right! Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 07:55:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Damo wrote: >With reference to Tim's earlier mail, point taken about >'endzone zone' making life difficult to score in small endzones, >but then isn't that the whole point? Why penalise a team who >adopts this strategy? IMHO Surely because any team who plays like this sends spectators to sleep? Honestly, anyone who creams themselves everytime they see four across the back can get to Highbury. 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Love Helen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 10:57:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13392 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:55:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13386 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:55:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14951 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:55:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05733 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:55:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 3 Sep 99 10:55:30 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 3 Sep 99 10:55:26 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:55:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Indoor Zones X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <1007208F7DC4@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just one or two more points on indoor zone: 1) The difference between and indoor endzone and any other zone (indoors or outdoors) is that in an indoor endzone players can cover the only important space. In any other type of zone, commiting lots of players to defending one space leaves open another space on the field which the offence can exploit. A cup has to worry about passes through it and around it. In an indoor endzone zone one doesn't have to worry about deeper passes and if the disc is swung, someone else is already in position covering the space. 2) Making it more difficult to score from close range, changes the balance of the game. A D team can invest more heavily on stopping the long pass at the expense of letting short passes go. The O team then just ends up working the disc up, its not in their interests to risk possession by a long pass if D players are poaching long. 3) The option of throwing an endzone zone is only really available to the team which is winning. Stalemates between the offensive and defensive team in the endzone costs time. Indoor games are very short and if a team goes a few points down then its effectively over. At the end of the day, I agree that its a matter of degree. How hard is it to break an indoor zone for a given endzone size? In large halls, I don't think its much of a problem, but in pool games where the hall is often halved, it can be difficult. 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Message-Id: <000000337913019221066@daletaylor.co.uk> From: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:31:06 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Better still, just sit still and think about the game. Having eradicated all that annoying walking (let alone the awfully unhealthy running involved in ultimate and other real sport), why even waste time and energy moving your fingers? Nolan On Fri, Sep 3, 1999, 3:27:19 pm GMT Andrew Wilson wrote: >... well, actually 'Frisbee® Golf', complete with Wham-O endorsement. I've >not actually played it yet, but I've ordered 4 copies to save on >international postage. > >Cheques for 20 quid to anyone that wants one. > >Check out: > >http://www.headgames.net > >Here's the blurb... > >Experience one of the fastest growing sports in >the nation, Frisbee® Golf. >With four different players, three flying discs and >four unique courses, Frisbee® Golf is a game the >entire family will enjoy. > >The object of the game is just like golf. Play >under par and become the champion. Wind, trees >and diverse terrain provide challenging obstacles >and exhilarating action in Frisbee Golf > >4 Unique Frisbee® Golf Courses > >4 Different Players to Choose From > >Varying Levels of Course Difficulty > >Stunning Graphics > >Digitally Recorded Sounds > >Multiple Throwing Discs > >Control the Pitch, Angle and Power of the Throw > >Easy to Use Interface > --------------------------------------- Nolan Taylor Dale Taylor Ltd Email: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: 01323 430700 Fax: 01323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 19:37:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14042 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:36:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14036 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:36:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09577 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:36:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from clw13.clw ([209.8.25.197]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:25:30 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990903143544.007305f4@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:35:45 -0400 To: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd), britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: Disc Golf Computer game... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Better still, just sit still and think about the game. Having eradicated all that annoying walking (let alone the awfully unhealthy running involved in ultimate and other real sport), why even waste time and energy moving your fingers? > >Nolan I'm sure that Andrew only intends to use this poor substitute when his presence is required in the office. Stephen now pocomoke, formerly . . . ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 22:51:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12820 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12809 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23630 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11N1Dp-000Ew6-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:50:15 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:09:02 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Transworld & Sky References: <199909021040.LAA16454@brookes.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <199909021040.LAA16454@brookes.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> writes >Britdisc, > >Transworld Sport have moved the Clubs coverage to: > >Thursday 9th, Sky Sport 2 & 3 >Saturday 11th, Transworld Sport, Channel 4, 8-9am #@?*# ! and I've just spent all that time learning to program the VCR! on a related note, anyone have any ideas on the fate of www.trans-world- sport.com ? There's a link to it from Ultilinks, but it refuses to talk to be recongnised... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 3 22:51:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12776 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12769 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23631 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:50:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11N1Dp-000Poq-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:50:15 +0000 Message-ID: <1wQgCmALzD03EwRf@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:25:31 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Indoors rules - yeah right! References: <19990902145529.66609.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19990902145529.66609.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jester Bit writes >IMHO >Surely because any team who plays like this sends spectators to sleep? maybe... but AWC (the onetime exWarwick arm of the Druids) and Druids have used 1-2-2 and 2-1-2 formations indoors with reasonable success due to requirement for only one or two runners (to chase) and 3 or 4 slow/fat poachers (to stand around, poaching!) - ideal if you consider the physique of a "regular" Druids team! The lack of running around seemed to appeal to Flamingo "Get a Life, Play Outdoors" Trap (Shotgun the year they deigned to play indoors) - they made it all the way to 3rd in '93 (?) with a zone D. It also seemed to be a more popular D last year... Four across the back seems to be fading away - though I guess it's still popular with student teams. Wayne Wondering whether to buy a new pair of indoor shoes - it's about time I used my squash racquet again... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter Fluid Druids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 6 07:48:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16174 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16169 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15233 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA22977 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199909060647.HAA22977@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Comment THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 6 13:09:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28113 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:08:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28105 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:08:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16597 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:08:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:06:25 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:04:56 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED587@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Tim Blair'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:04:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It would appear my mail didn't make it to britdisc, only to the U8Committe list - Sorry all Chris Hughes >Apologies for the delay - I know I promised this last week; my fault. >The following teams will be invited to Nationals, and seeded in the >following order; > >Division 1 >1 UTI >2 Catch 22 >3 Chevron AF >4 Doughboy >5 Red >6 SOUP >7 Fluid Druids >8 BAF > >Division 2 >1 Headrush >2 First Touch >3 Strange Blue >4 Nightfever >5 Phat 'Eds (unrostered) >6 Sharks >7 Wyld Stallyns (unrostered) >8 Mohawk Mwnci Magic > >Reserves >Bliss >Skunks (unrostered) >MM Janitors >Smudge (unrostered) >BAF Too >Overflow (unrostered) >+ others too many to mention here > >NOTES; >There will be no crossover between any divisions. >Teams do not have to enter. If a team declines the invitation then everyone >will move up a place. Top seeds in Division 2 may be promoted to Division 1. >Only two unrostered teams are allowed in Division 2. Hence should a rostered >team drop out then the reserve slot will be offered only to those rostered >teams in the waiting list. Should a unrostered team drop out then it will be >offered to any team on the waiting list (ie; Bliss will be offered the empty >space either way). >Additions to Rosters / team lists - players must first qualify as a British >player. There are very strict rules on players changing teams - check with >me first before you get your team disqualified. The rules are available in >the Tour information pack all teams were sent, and are on the website >http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ >Nationals are to be held in Leicster, Sept 25 /26. There may well be a >Division 3 event open to all non qualifying teams - this has yet to be >confirmed. > ---------- > From: Tim Blair[SMTP:tim@badpen.com] > Sent: 05 September 1999 02:55 > To: HUGHES, Chris > Subject: Re: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: HUGHES, Chris > To: BritDisc ; > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:01 PM > Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > > Dora and Myself will check this out and produce a final list for > Nationals > > qualification by the end of the week. > > > Was this list not actually posted, or did I just miss it? > > It would be nice to know if we're definately in, considering we were right > on the edge... > > Thanks. > > Tim. > > -- > Tim Blair > Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate > http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ > email club@mwncisee.co.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 6 13:53:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04789 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04779 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14945 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:49:36 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:48:21 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED58B@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Flores, Aram'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:48:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The rules committee are discussing some of the finer points on this as we speak, but I can clarify some points. > Can a player switch teams for Nationals? - No, but there are some circumstances that allow it, mainly based around whether a player has been rostered. If you have been rostered for a team in the tour then you cannot change. If required specific situations can be discussed by the U8Comittee. > Can a UK based player, that isn't rostered, join a team (without taking > the > guest spot). This is the one presently under discussion. A decision is > going to be reached v. soon > Can a non-UK player that arrived before July 1st join a team (without > taking > the guest spot). Yes, BUT the proviso is that the rules state, 'coming to > live', so a prolonged holiday (extended worlds trip) would force them to > use the guest spot. How do you define 'coming to live'? If at this stage > you intend to be around for the next season ie Nationals is not going to > be your only major event then that would definitely qualify you. I will > get the U8C to make a definitive ruling on that. > Hope it helped Chris > ---------- > From: Flores, Aram[SMTP:aflores@lehman.com] > Sent: 06 September 1999 13:26 > To: 'HUGHES, Chris' > Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > Chris, > > Would it be possible to post a CLEAR statement on eligibility for > Nationals, > answering questions such as; > > Can a player switch teams for Nationals? > Can a UK based player, that isn't rostered, join a team (without taking > the > guest spot). > Can a non-UK player that arrived before July 1st join a team (without > taking > the guest spot). > > thanks, Aram > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HUGHES, Chris [SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > > Sent: 06 September 1999 13:05 > > To: 'Tim Blair' > > Cc: 'BritDisc' > > Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > > > It would appear my mail didn't make it to britdisc, only to the > U8Committe > > list - Sorry all > > > > Chris Hughes > > > > >Apologies for the delay - I know I promised this last week; my fault. > > >The following teams will be invited to Nationals, and seeded in the > > >following order; > > > > > >Division 1 > > >1 UTI > > >2 Catch 22 > > >3 Chevron AF > > >4 Doughboy > > >5 Red > > >6 SOUP > > >7 Fluid Druids > > >8 BAF > > > > > >Division 2 > > >1 Headrush > > >2 First Touch > > >3 Strange Blue > > >4 Nightfever > > >5 Phat 'Eds (unrostered) > > >6 Sharks > > >7 Wyld Stallyns (unrostered) > > >8 Mohawk Mwnci Magic > > > > > >Reserves > > >Bliss > > >Skunks (unrostered) > > >MM Janitors > > >Smudge (unrostered) > > >BAF Too > > >Overflow (unrostered) > > >+ others too many to mention here > > > > > >NOTES; > > >There will be no crossover between any divisions. > > >Teams do not have to enter. If a team declines the invitation then > > everyone > > >will move up a place. Top seeds in Division 2 may be promoted to > Division > > 1. > > >Only two unrostered teams are allowed in Division 2. Hence should a > > rostered > > >team drop out then the reserve slot will be offered only to those > > rostered > > >teams in the waiting list. Should a unrostered team drop out then it > will > > be > > >offered to any team on the waiting list (ie; Bliss will be offered the > > empty > > >space either way). > > >Additions to Rosters / team lists - players must first qualify as a > > British > > >player. There are very strict rules on players changing teams - check > > with > > >me first before you get your team disqualified. The rules are available > > in > > >the Tour information pack all teams were sent, and are on the website > > >http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ > > >Nationals are to be held in Leicster, Sept 25 /26. There may well be a > > >Division 3 event open to all non qualifying teams - this has yet to be > > >confirmed. > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 6 13:53:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04759 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04727 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from fwuk06.schroders.com (fwuk01.schroders.com [194.201.241.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18776 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:51:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from fwuk06.schroders.com (root@localhost) by fwuk06.schroders.com with ESMTP id NAA27664 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:48:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mswuk01.schroders.com (mswuk01.schroders.com [194.201.241.87]) by fwuk06.schroders.com with ESMTP id NAA27660 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:48:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from msxuk01.london.schroders.com (unverified) by mswuk01.schroders.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:49:07 +0100 Received: by MSXUK01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:50:15 +0100 Message-Id: <8B221B012EDCD011BB84080009DCEC7B0329BA5E@msxuk09.london.schroders.com> From: "Franklin, Matthew" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: South Africa Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:50:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anybody know if there are any ultimate teams or even just players in Cape Town, South Africa and if so how can I contact them. I am moving there for three years in November and don't want to hang up my boots just yet. Also how can I get myself taken off britdisc ? Thanks. __________________________________________________________________ Confidentiality Notice This message may contain privileged and confidential information. If you think, for any reason, that this message may have been addressed to you in error, you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it, and we would ask you to notify us immediately by return email to "Postmaster@Schroders.com". From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 6 19:15:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19705 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:13:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19694 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:13:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16322 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-044.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.44]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24457 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:14:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01bf01bef894$237263a0$2ca492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Nationals - Top 16 Teams Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:00:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Would representatives from the following teams please confirm that they wish to take part in the National Finals at Leicester: Catch 22 SOUP First Touch Phat'Eds I am skipping the invite letter for the top 16 and will be sending you directions and details (and an invoice) this week. Fees are as follows: Top 16 (A & B Divisions) - £100 'Not the Nationals' teams (C Division) - £50 Please send your cheques - payable to 'Red Ultimate Club' to Leicester Ultimate Club PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ I would like teams to have paid up by the weekend of 18/19th September. Teams NOT in the top 16 please read the other posting about the 'Not the Nationals' C division. Thanks Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 6 19:15:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19704 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:13:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19692 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16318 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:13:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-044.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.44]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24454 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 19:14:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01be01bef894$22ca8ae0$2ca492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: NOT the Nationals Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:57:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Attention all teams not completing in the top 16 at the Nationals! Get a great weekend of Ultimate – plus a great party – and finish in time to watch the best teams in the country battle it out for the title of 1999 National Champions. All for only £50. Can you afford to miss it? 1999 NATIONAL FINALS, VICTORIA PARK LEICESTER 25/26 SEPTEMBER -Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. -Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. -Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy -Party at Leicester’s ‘The Shed’ nightclub – free entry before 10pm. Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. £50 cheques payable to ‘Red Ultimate Club’ Please send your cheques to:- Leicester Ultimate Club PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ Catch you later – the RED team. More details - phone Ben on 0116 2559638 / 0403 460866 or reply to this email... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 09:41:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11975 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:39:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11969 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:39:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.sun.ac.za (mail.sun.ac.za [146.232.128.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23402 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:39:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from ing.sun.ac.za ([146.232.144.10]) by mail.sun.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11OGkc-0007hW-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:37:14 +0200 Received: from SUN_ING/SpoolDir by ing.sun.ac.za (Mercury 1.44); 7 Sep 99 10:39:05 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by SUN_ING (Mercury 1.44); 7 Sep 99 10:38:42 +0200 Received: from rboroto.sun.ac.za (146.232.145.137) by ing.sun.ac.za (Mercury 1.44); 7 Sep 99 10:38:34 +0200 Message-ID: <003701bef90b$f7807520$8991e892@sun.ac.za> From: "Ryan Males" To: Subject: Ultimate videos? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:35:40 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01BEF91C.BAE7B360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BEF91C.BAE7B360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi In order to increase exposure of the game here in South Africa I am = trying to get hold of any video or TV material on Ultimate. Are you = aware of any videos taken of games at WUCC this year, how to access them = and the costs involved? The Open final would be a great place to start! = =20 Ryan Males ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BEF91C.BAE7B360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi
 
In order to increase exposure of the = game here in=20 South Africa I am trying to get hold of any video or TV material on=20 Ultimate.  Are you aware of any videos taken of games at = WUCC=20 this year, how to access them and the costs involved?  The Open = final would=20 be a great place to start! 
 
Ryan = Males
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BEF91C.BAE7B360-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 09:41:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11884 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:38:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11877 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:38:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03278 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:38:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11OGlt-000Had-0K; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:38:35 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:33:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4794@LONSEX02> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Leicester Ultimate Club'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" , "'UTI'" Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:33:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben, Why are teams playing at the UK's premier tournament, the National Championships being asked to pay a higher entry fee than those in the 'not the nationals tournament'? Especially when it appears they will be offered the same facilities as those partaking in main tournament? * Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. * Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. * Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy * Party at Leicester's 'The Shed' nightclub - free entry before 10pm. Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. OK so they finish by 2pm on Sunday, does this qualify for 50% discount? It appears that the top 16 teams are being asked to subsidise the other tournament. Surely the point of Nationals is to make it a show event of the top teams? You may well argue that the 'not the nationals' will provide a larger crowd for the final etc and I would support that, but please not at a greater expense to those teams qualifying for nationals. Or perhaps the extra you earn will be profit for Red???? Surely something you would condone given your well publicised view of Druids policy over the previous years with the tournaments they've organised! Colin. UTI. P.S. Should you care to make a charitable donation to UTI due to lost funds over Red's non appearance at the 'World's warm up tournament' please let me know and I'll offset any such amount against our entry for Nationals. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 11:41:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04460 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:40:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04443 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:40:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04333 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:39:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:37:22 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:38:53 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED590@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Leicester Ultimate Club'" , "'Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" , "'UTI'" Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:38:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Why are the top 16 teams asked to pay more; are they subsidising the other teams? No - they are subsidising you Nationals is designed as a 16 team event - you can guarantee 16 teams there. Everything in the tournament is organised around these 16 teams. Ben has a guaranteed 10 pitches - 8 of which are being used by Div 1 & 2 teams leaving the rest to use two pitches, and any spaces when the other pitches are not in use. They will get less pitch time, they will be placed on the sloped lumpy pitches - so that the 16 teams are placed on flat, nice pitches. Then you pay for the party, the massage, all the other costs. But if we can get another 8 teams along for the ride - Div C, who will get a fun tournament, and a party, then they can contribute as well (that 8 x 50gbp = 400gbp) thats 400gbp that you don't have to pay, an extra 25gbp per team. So why still so expensive. Well you can only guarantee 16 teams coming so you still have to cover that expense, and budget for it - as a TD yourself you'll know about this Col. What you may find if the Div C event fills up and lots of teams come along, you might get a partial refund because Ben realises that all of a sudden he is making an unreasonable amount of profit - and will give some back (there's your incentive to put in a good bid to run a Nationals, qualifying, or tour event). Finally - how many players are UTI taking to Nationals 15? 7gbp per player. If a small team scrapes together and decided to enter the Div C event with 8 players it will cost them 6.25gbp each. Seems fair - I think so. Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: Wagstaff, Colin > [euler:eti-lon][SMTP:Colin.Wagstaff@eulergroup.com] > Sent: 07 September 1999 09:33 > To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club' > Cc: 'Britdisc'; 'UTI' > Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams > > Ben, > > Why are teams playing at the UK's premier tournament, the National > Championships being asked to pay a higher entry fee than those in the 'not > the nationals tournament'? Especially when it appears they will be > offered > the same facilities as those partaking in main tournament? > > * Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. > * Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. > * Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy > * Party at Leicester's 'The Shed' nightclub - free entry before 10pm. > Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from > Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. > > OK so they finish by 2pm on Sunday, does this qualify for 50% discount? > > It appears that the top 16 teams are being asked to subsidise the other > tournament. Surely the point of Nationals is to make it a show event of > the > top teams? You may well argue that the 'not the nationals' will provide a > larger crowd for the final etc and I would support that, but please not at > a > greater expense to those teams qualifying for nationals. > > Or perhaps the extra you earn will be profit for Red???? Surely something > you would condone given your well publicised view of Druids policy over > the > previous years with the tournaments they've organised! > > > Colin. > UTI. > > P.S. Should you care to make a charitable donation to UTI due to lost > funds > over Red's non appearance at the 'World's warm up tournament' please let > me > know and I'll offset any such amount against our entry for Nationals. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 12:17:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12280 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:16:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12267 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:16:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from server1.screaming.net (IDENT:root@server1.screaming.net [212.49.224.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13213 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:16:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from simon (dyn26-ras7.screaming.net [212.49.230.26]) by server1.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA10117 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:34:46 +0100 Message-ID: <001601bef922$be99b020$1ae631d4@simon> From: "Simon P Barlow" To: Subject: nationals-top16 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:16:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEF92A.BF77E180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEF92A.BF77E180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So is this a new precedent being set, that all tournaments will start = giving refunds if their profits become too large??? I don't think this will be the case do you Chris??? As I recall the last tournament Red held ( Tour 1 98 ) They didn't have = to pay for the use of Victoria Park and I don't remember ever seeing any = refund!!! Is this why the Not the nationals is so reasonable because Red are = subsidising this event. Si.b ( not looking forward to attempting to layout in dog s**t ) Chevy ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEF92A.BF77E180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So is this a new precedent being set, that all = tournaments=20 will start giving refunds if their profits become too = large???
 
I don't think this will be the case do you=20 Chris???
 
As I recall the last tournament Red held ( Tour 1 98 = ) They=20 didn't have to pay for the use of Victoria Park and I don't remember = ever seeing=20 any refund!!!
Is this why the Not the nationals is so reasonable = because Red=20 are subsidising this event.
 
Si.b   ( not looking forward to attempting = to layout=20 in dog s**t )
 
Chevy
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BEF92A.BF77E180-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 12:59:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20141 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20127 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12110 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-006.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.6]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09729 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:35 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009c01bef928$ddf9db60$06a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Nationals Pitches Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:56:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to Chris Hughes for having a brain. Just one correction, I have booked 12 pitches so the bottom division will have four to use. On the subject of pitches I would like to take this opportinuty to inform players that, as with every September,Victoria Park is in great condition having had all summer to recover from the footie season. Also, the top teams will be using the considerably flatter cricket outfields (not used previously). Chevy Simon - I don't know who gave you the idea that Victoria Park is free! We are paying something in the region of £50 per pitch. I am however willing to purchase a poopa-scoopa especially for you! Any more moans? :-( Ben -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club' ; 'Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]' Cc: 'Britdisc' ; 'UTI' Date: 07 September 1999 11:43 Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams >Why are the top 16 teams asked to pay more; are they subsidising the other >teams? > >No - they are subsidising you > >Nationals is designed as a 16 team event - you can guarantee 16 teams there. >Everything in the tournament is organised around these 16 teams. Ben has a >guaranteed 10 pitches - 8 of which are being used by Div 1 & 2 teams leaving >the rest to use two pitches, and any spaces when the other pitches are not >in use. They will get less pitch time, they will be placed on the sloped >lumpy pitches - so that the 16 teams are placed on flat, nice pitches. Then >you pay for the party, the massage, all the other costs. > >But if we can get another 8 teams along for the ride - Div C, who will get a >fun tournament, and a party, then they can contribute as well (that 8 x >50gbp = 400gbp) thats 400gbp that you don't have to pay, an extra 25gbp per >team. So why still so expensive. Well you can only guarantee 16 teams coming >so you still have to cover that expense, and budget for it - as a TD >yourself you'll know about this Col. What you may find if the Div C event >fills up and lots of teams come along, you might get a partial refund >because Ben realises that all of a sudden he is making an unreasonable >amount of profit - and will give some back (there's your incentive to put in >a good bid to run a Nationals, qualifying, or tour event). > >Finally - how many players are UTI taking to Nationals 15? 7gbp per player. >If a small team scrapes together and decided to enter the Div C event with 8 >players it will cost them 6.25gbp each. Seems fair - I think so. > >Chris Hughes >DoC > >> ---------- >> From: Wagstaff, Colin >> [euler:eti-lon][SMTP:Colin.Wagstaff@eulergroup.com] >> Sent: 07 September 1999 09:33 >> To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club' >> Cc: 'Britdisc'; 'UTI' >> Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams >> >> Ben, >> >> Why are teams playing at the UK's premier tournament, the National >> Championships being asked to pay a higher entry fee than those in the 'not >> the nationals tournament'? Especially when it appears they will be >> offered >> the same facilities as those partaking in main tournament? >> >> * Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. >> * Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. >> * Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy >> * Party at Leicester's 'The Shed' nightclub - free entry before 10pm. >> Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from >> Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. >> >> OK so they finish by 2pm on Sunday, does this qualify for 50% discount? >> >> It appears that the top 16 teams are being asked to subsidise the other >> tournament. Surely the point of Nationals is to make it a show event of >> the >> top teams? You may well argue that the 'not the nationals' will provide a >> larger crowd for the final etc and I would support that, but please not at >> a >> greater expense to those teams qualifying for nationals. >> >> Or perhaps the extra you earn will be profit for Red???? Surely something >> you would condone given your well publicised view of Druids policy over >> the >> previous years with the tournaments they've organised! >> >> >> Colin. >> UTI. >> >> P.S. Should you care to make a charitable donation to UTI due to lost >> funds >> over Red's non appearance at the 'World's warm up tournament' please let >> me >> know and I'll offset any such amount against our entry for Nationals. >> >> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 12:59:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20142 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20134 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16099 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-006.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.6]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09733 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:58:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009d01bef928$df699800$06a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Nationals Fees Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:56:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin, If you want to make the Nationals an event you need an audience. When I submitted the bid I was asked to try and accommodate a lower, less ‘serious’ division to achieve this. These non-top 16 teams aren’t going to pay £100 for a smaller tournament. YOU would have had to have paid £100 whatever. I will admit some regret that the main tournament fee has to be this much. We had a sponsor all lined up but they’ve been procrastinating big time so I had to charge the full amount in the first instance. You can expect a refund if they stump up some cash. Profits? I should be so lucky! I will publish any profits made if it makes you happy. The lower placed teams are not going to get nearly as much pitch time as the top 16. They’re also not going to get extra frills such as game discs. Fair? I think so. As for your clamoring about the Worlds Tune Up – I suggest you take a leaf out of the Druids book and A) get a firm “Yes we’re coming” from interested teams (show us the email!) and B) get their money, before you schedule your event. Beats relying on charity mate ;-) Trust me, it will all seem worth it when a sideline full of UTI supporters is cheering you on in the final! Catch you later Ben -----Original Message----- From: Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon] To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club' Cc: 'Britdisc' ; 'UTI' Date: 07 September 1999 09:43 Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams >Ben, > >Why are teams playing at the UK's premier tournament, the National >Championships being asked to pay a higher entry fee than those in the 'not >the nationals tournament'? Especially when it appears they will be offered >the same facilities as those partaking in main tournament? > >* Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. >* Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. >* Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy >* Party at Leicester's 'The Shed' nightclub - free entry before 10pm. >Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from >Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. > >OK so they finish by 2pm on Sunday, does this qualify for 50% discount? > >It appears that the top 16 teams are being asked to subsidise the other >tournament. Surely the point of Nationals is to make it a show event of the >top teams? You may well argue that the 'not the nationals' will provide a >larger crowd for the final etc and I would support that, but please not at a >greater expense to those teams qualifying for nationals. > >Or perhaps the extra you earn will be profit for Red???? Surely something >you would condone given your well publicised view of Druids policy over the >previous years with the tournaments they've organised! > > >Colin. >UTI. > >P.S. Should you care to make a charitable donation to UTI due to lost funds >over Red's non appearance at the 'World's warm up tournament' please let me >know and I'll offset any such amount against our entry for Nationals. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 13:00:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20711 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:00:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20692 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:00:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16468 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:00:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-006.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.6]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA09811 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:00:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00a901bef929$2b9960c0$06a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: SOUP & First Touch, where are you? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:04:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Would anyone from these two teams please contact me ASAP. I need to know if you're coming to the Nationals. Thanks Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 13:30:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27430 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:29:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27414 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:28:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from mimesweeper.guinness.com ([194.74.40.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19738 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:28:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from parhub03.pr.guinness (unverified) by mimesweeper.guinness.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 13:28:20 +0100 Received: by PARHUB03 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:28:14 +0100 Message-Id: <5161973F4E87D211A7B00008C7A4DD00AECB55@parmsg01.pr.guinness> From: "Bowles, Guy" To: "'HUGHES, Chris'" , "'Leicester Ultimate Club'" , "'Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" , "'UTI'" Subject: RE: [undertheinfluence] Re: Nationals - Top 16 Teams Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:24:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA27423 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris, Thank you for a comprehensive, if not pithy, explanation. We look forward to a fantastically run tournament, & though not an offer to pay more, I'm sure I speak for all of UTI (including Colin) when I say that £7 per player is well worth paying for the opportunity to add the National title to that of Tour Champions. See y'all at Eastbourne. Guy. UTI. -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris [SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] Sent: 07 September 1999 11:39 To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club'; 'Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]' Cc: 'Britdisc'; 'UTI' Subject: [undertheinfluence] Re: Nationals - Top 16 Teams Why are the top 16 teams asked to pay more; are they subsidising the other teams? No - they are subsidising you Nationals is designed as a 16 team event - you can guarantee 16 teams there. Everything in the tournament is organised around these 16 teams. Ben has a guaranteed 10 pitches - 8 of which are being used by Div 1 & 2 teams leaving the rest to use two pitches, and any spaces when the other pitches are not in use. They will get less pitch time, they will be placed on the sloped lumpy pitches - so that the 16 teams are placed on flat, nice pitches. Then you pay for the party, the massage, all the other costs. But if we can get another 8 teams along for the ride - Div C, who will get a fun tournament, and a party, then they can contribute as well (that 8 x 50gbp = 400gbp) thats 400gbp that you don't have to pay, an extra 25gbp per team. So why still so expensive. Well you can only guarantee 16 teams coming so you still have to cover that expense, and budget for it - as a TD yourself you'll know about this Col. What you may find if the Div C event fills up and lots of teams come along, you might get a partial refund because Ben realises that all of a sudden he is making an unreasonable amount of profit - and will give some back (there's your incentive to put in a good bid to run a Nationals, qualifying, or tour event). Finally - how many players are UTI taking to Nationals 15? 7gbp per player. If a small team scrapes together and decided to enter the Div C event with 8 players it will cost them 6.25gbp each. Seems fair - I think so. Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: Wagstaff, Colin > [euler:eti-lon][SMTP:Colin.Wagstaff@eulergroup.com] > Sent: 07 September 1999 09:33 > To: 'Leicester Ultimate Club' > Cc: 'Britdisc'; 'UTI' > Subject: RE: Nationals - Top 16 Teams > > Ben, > > Why are teams playing at the UK's premier tournament, the National > Championships being asked to pay a higher entry fee than those in the 'not > the nationals tournament'? Especially when it appears they will be > offered > the same facilities as those partaking in main tournament? > > * Division C Tournament finishing in time for the 2pm Sunday final. > * Full size pitches + cones + water + scoreboards + marquee. > * Physios from the Academy of Sports Therapy > * Party at Leicester's 'The Shed' nightclub - free entry before 10pm. > Live music from The Aynsley Lister Band (blues/rock) plus support from > Vigorous (rock covers) plus sixties disco. > > OK so they finish by 2pm on Sunday, does this qualify for 50% discount? > > It appears that the top 16 teams are being asked to subsidise the other > tournament. Surely the point of Nationals is to make it a show event of > the > top teams? You may well argue that the 'not the nationals' will provide a > larger crowd for the final etc and I would support that, but please not at > a > greater expense to those teams qualifying for nationals. > > Or perhaps the extra you earn will be profit for Red???? Surely something > you would condone given your well publicised view of Druids policy over > the > previous years with the tournaments they've organised! > > > Colin. > UTI. > > P.S. Should you care to make a charitable donation to UTI due to lost > funds > over Red's non appearance at the 'World's warm up tournament' please let > me > know and I'll offset any such amount against our entry for Nationals. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. Start with up to 150 Points for joining! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/805 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/undertheinfluence http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 13:45:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01186 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01179 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15676 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA06243 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:24 +0100 (BST) From: "Andy Cotgreave" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Nationals Fees Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:20 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127014FE992@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12701CB8168@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > Trust me, it will all seem worth it when a sideline full of > UTI supporters > is cheering you on in the final! Don't you mean in the 3rd/4th playoff? ho ho ho. Yours, making the obvious gag, Andy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 13:45:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01355 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:45:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01343 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:45:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15723 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:45:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:45:17 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13793; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:44:40 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: "Bowles, Guy" Cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: [undertheinfluence] Re: Nationals - Top 16 Teams In-Reply-To: <5161973F4E87D211A7B00008C7A4DD00AECB55@parmsg01.pr.guinness> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:41:33 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA01346 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Guy, I wish you the very best of luck in your second attempt to achieve this magnificent, though not unprecedented record. Rafi (22) On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:24:18 +0100 "Bowles, Guy" wrote: > Chris, > Thank you for a comprehensive, if not pithy, explanation. > > We look forward to a fantastically run tournament, & > though not an offer to pay more, I'm sure I speak for all > of UTI (including Colin) when I say that £7 per player > is well worth paying for the opportunity to add the > National title to that of Tour Champions. > See y'all at Eastbourne. > > Guy. > UTI. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 14:14:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07506 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:12:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07476 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:12:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24426 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:12:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-175.name53.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.186.175] helo=SNOWHITE) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11OL36-0006Na-00 for Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:12:37 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Pete Harvey" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: [undertheinfluence] Re: Nationals - Top 16 Teams Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:12:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk every dog has its day... Harv (26) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of rafael freire > Sent: 07 September 1999 13:42 > To: Bowles, Guy > Cc: 'Britdisc' > Subject: RE: [undertheinfluence] Re: Nationals - Top 16 Teams > > > Guy, > I wish you the very best of luck in your second attempt > to achieve this magnificent, though not unprecedented > record. > Rafi (22) > > On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:24:18 +0100 "Bowles, Guy" > wrote: > > > Chris, > > Thank you for a comprehensive, if not pithy, explanation. > > > > We look forward to a fantastically run tournament, & > > though not an offer to pay more, I'm sure I speak for all > > of UTI (including Colin) when I say that £7 per player > > is well worth paying for the opportunity to add the > > National title to that of Tour Champions. > > See y'all at Eastbourne. > > > > Guy. > > UTI. > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 16:02:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29788 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:59:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29762 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02558 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:59:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:56:50 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:58:24 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED592@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Simon P Barlow'" Subject: RE: nationals-top16 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:58:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA29772 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si B In terms of refunds - it has happened before, and if I feel people are making too much money from tournaments it will happen again. BUT, the tournaments that are being watched are the 'compulsory' tournaments (ie those that have been bid for) like the tour events, Nationals (in and outdoors). You organise your own tournament and you can charge as much as you like, and make as much profit as you like - if teams object, they won't go. However your choice for attending Nationals is limited - and awkward to boycott. So you should be expecting to pay a fair price, but similarly, those people who have organised an event like this will tell you that it takes one hell of a lot of time and effort, both before and on the day, the costs do mount up very quickly, and if I am to have half a chance to convince people to host these events, people / clubs need an incentive to get off their butts and do it. For those of you wanting to know why Leicester is hosting Nationals; their bid was put forward by the City Council with the full backing of their publicity office, and whilst this may not necessarily benefit the whole of the country, increasing the profile of the sport, anywhere has to rate fairly highly amongst our priorities. Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: Simon P Barlow[SMTP:dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net] > Sent: 07 September 1999 12:16 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: nationals-top16 > > So is this a new precedent being set, that all tournaments will start > giving refunds if their profits become too large??? >   > I don't think this will be the case do you Chris??? >   > As I recall the last tournament Red held ( Tour 1 98 ) They didn't have to > pay for the use of Victoria Park and I don't remember ever seeing any > refund!!! > Is this why the Not the nationals is so reasonable because Red are > subsidising this event. >   > Si.b   ( not looking forward to attempting to layout in dog s**t ) >   > Chevy > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 16:58:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15439 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:55:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15417 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:55:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07655 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:54:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:15:47 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:17:22 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED593@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:17:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hopefully this will finally clear up the debate; Any unrostered player is able to join a roster. (Check that you haven't been added to rosters already - please no gag additions adding people to teams that they have no intention of playing for) Any one moving to Britain for a pre-organised job, is coming to live, and may therefore join a roster, if they arrived before July 1st. Any one moving to Britain, and is going to stay until the next tour, is coming to live, and may therefore join a roster, if they arrived before July 1st. Anyone may be included as a guest. (But only one guest per team) Spirit of the Game applies. The reason for rosters was to try and prevent teams from loading with players for single events, but also to encourage continuity of teams. Be careful in adding to rosters (which must be notified to the DoC - me - before the event; on the morning of play is too late) as abuse of the rules this year will only lead to clamping down on rules next year. Sorry for dragging this one on, but the committee felt a little tedium now was better than a lot of excitement later when teams try to get each other disqualified during the event. See you all at Eastbourne (including Guy - hope this wasn't too pithy for you ;-) ), and I hope we can have an argument free Nationals. Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Flores, Aram[SMTP:aflores@lehman.com] > Sent: 06 September 1999 13:26 > To: 'HUGHES, Chris' > Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > Chris, > > Would it be possible to post a CLEAR statement on eligibility for > Nationals, > answering questions such as; > > Can a player switch teams for Nationals? > Can a UK based player, that isn't rostered, join a team (without taking > the > guest spot). > Can a non-UK player that arrived before July 1st join a team (without > taking > the guest spot). > > thanks, Aram > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HUGHES, Chris [SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > > Sent: 06 September 1999 13:05 > > To: 'Tim Blair' > > Cc: 'BritDisc' > > Subject: RE: Rostered/Unrostered Teams > > > > It would appear my mail didn't make it to britdisc, only to the > U8Committe > > list - Sorry all > > > > Chris Hughes > > > > >Apologies for the delay - I know I promised this last week; my fault. > > >The following teams will be invited to Nationals, and seeded in the > > >following order; > > > > > >Division 1 > > >1 UTI > > >2 Catch 22 > > >3 Chevron AF > > >4 Doughboy > > >5 Red > > >6 SOUP > > >7 Fluid Druids > > >8 BAF > > > > > >Division 2 > > >1 Headrush > > >2 First Touch > > >3 Strange Blue > > >4 Nightfever > > >5 Phat 'Eds (unrostered) > > >6 Sharks > > >7 Wyld Stallyns (unrostered) > > >8 Mohawk Mwnci Magic > > > > > >Reserves > > >Bliss > > >Skunks (unrostered) > > >MM Janitors > > >Smudge (unrostered) > > >BAF Too > > >Overflow (unrostered) > > >+ others too many to mention here > > > > > >NOTES; > > >There will be no crossover between any divisions. > > >Teams do not have to enter. If a team declines the invitation then > > everyone > > >will move up a place. Top seeds in Division 2 may be promoted to > Division > > 1. > > >Only two unrostered teams are allowed in Division 2. Hence should a > > rostered > > >team drop out then the reserve slot will be offered only to those > > rostered > > >teams in the waiting list. Should a unrostered team drop out then it > will > > be > > >offered to any team on the waiting list (ie; Bliss will be offered the > > empty > > >space either way). > > >Additions to Rosters / team lists - players must first qualify as a > > British > > >player. There are very strict rules on players changing teams - check > > with > > >me first before you get your team disqualified. The rules are available > > in > > >the Tour information pack all teams were sent, and are on the website > > >http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ > > >Nationals are to be held in Leicster, Sept 25 /26. There may well be a > > >Division 3 event open to all non qualifying teams - this has yet to be > > >confirmed. > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 18:07:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28789 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:05:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28783 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:05:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12414 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:05:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri2-051.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.51]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01614 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:08:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006d01bef953$ddf252c0$33a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Nationals Staff wanted Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:07:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WANTED Two people to help out at the National Finals in Leicester on 25/26 September. Duties will include: Collecting scores Ensuring pitches have enough water. Staffing the Info-desk in the marquee Announcing results and games over the PA system. Reporting problems/injuries to the info desk (walkie-talkies available) Picking up litter. Payment: Free food and beer (within reason!) plus free entry to the party. Contact me ASAP if you're interested. Beer monsters and tournament participants need not apply. Thanks Ben Ravilious Tournament Director From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 18:44:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04763 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:43:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04757 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:43:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from server1.screaming.net (IDENT:root@server1.screaming.net [212.49.224.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14968 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:43:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from simon (dyn59-ras16.screaming.net [212.49.239.59] (may be forged)) by server1.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA22289; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:01:59 +0100 Message-ID: <009601bef958$d344eae0$3bef31d4@simon> From: "Simon P Barlow" To: Cc: "Leicester Ultimate Club" , "HUGHES, Chris" Subject: nationals Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:44:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01BEF960.FBBE9360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BEF960.FBBE9360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben & Chris My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the point = that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a = tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased = considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of the = "compulsory tournaments". I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate community decide to = form the BUA to take over from the BUF, then when these compulsory = tournaments in the future are put on then all the profits/less = reasonable expenses, should go back to the BUA instead of the present = situation that we have found ourselves in where certain individuals = profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out that I feel this rate = needs to be increased. And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You told me = that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council = decided/never asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave = anyone any money back!!! (so did you make =A350 for every pitch you = didn't pay for last time). I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free and if = they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ = (Richer) !!! Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester council??? Red = tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!! And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! apart = from "Leicester city council" Si.b now nursing my hands after having my knuckles rapped P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run many = tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an = ultimate one as I know how many moaning players there are in our = wonderful sport. Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BEF960.FBBE9360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ben & Chris
 
My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the = point=20 that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a = tourney=20 .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased considerably = over the=20 past couple of years since the introduction of the "compulsory=20 tournaments".
I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate = community decide=20 to form the BUA to take over from the BUF, then when = these=20 compulsory tournaments in the future are put on then all the = profits/less=20 reasonable expenses, should go back to the BUA instead of the = present=20 situation that we have found ourselves in where certain individuals = profit.=20 Before you say BUF TAX let me point out that I feel this rate needs to = be=20 increased.
And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You = told me=20 that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council = decided/never asked=20 for the money after the event. And Red never gave anyone any money = back!!!=20 (so did you make =A350 for every pitch you didn't pay for last = time).
I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free and = if they=20 do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ = (Richer) =20 !!!
Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester council??? = Red tape=20 , Lost invoices and all that !!!!
And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! = apart from=20 "Leicester city council"
 
Si.b      now nursing my hands after having my = knuckles=20 rapped
 
P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run = many tennis=20 (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an ultimate one = as I know=20 how many moaning players there are in our wonderful sport.
 
Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20
------=_NextPart_000_007F_01BEF960.FBBE9360-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 19:41:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12229 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12221 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18342 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:39:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool-pri1-002.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.2]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA03051 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:42:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004f01bef960$fc310440$02a492c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: nationals Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:41:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simon That is 99% utter crap but seeing as your email is 'tongue in cheek' I = shall ignore it. FYI Simon Church is a 'Home Energy Officer' (thats the = 1% truth) so he is obviously able to knock up a few pitches on the sly = !?!=20 At least it was mildy amusing... :-p Ben (Just ordered the Red minibus from the Nationals profits - its made by = Matchbox) -----Original Message----- From: Simon P Barlow To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Leicester Ultimate Club ; HUGHES, Chris = Date: 07 September 1999 18:43 Subject: nationals =20 =20 Ben & Chris =20 My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the = point that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a = tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased = considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of the = "compulsory tournaments". I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate community decide to = form the BUA to take over from the BUF, then when these compulsory = tournaments in the future are put on then all the profits/less = reasonable expenses, should go back to the BUA instead of the present = situation that we have found ourselves in where certain individuals = profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out that I feel this rate = needs to be increased. And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You told = me that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council = decided/never asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave = anyone any money back!!! (so did you make =A350 for every pitch you = didn't pay for last time). I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free and = if they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ = (Richer) !!! Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester council??? = Red tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!! And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! = apart from "Leicester city council" =20 Si.b now nursing my hands after having my knuckles rapped =20 P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run many = tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an = ultimate one as I know how many moaning players there are in our = wonderful sport. =20 Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Simon
 
That is 99% utter crap but seeing as your email is 'tongue in = cheek' I=20 shall ignore it. FYI Simon Church is a  'Home Energy Officer' = (thats the 1%=20 truth) so he is obviously able to knock up a few pitches on the sly !?! =
 
At least it was mildy amusing...
 
:-p
 
Ben
(Just ordered the Red = minibus from the=20 Nationals profits - its made by Matchbox)
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Simon P Barlow <dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net>
To:=20 britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk= =20 <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk= >
Cc:=20 Leicester Ultimate Club <red@ultimateweb.co.uk>; = HUGHES,=20 Chris <CHughes@chelt.ac.uk>
Dat= e:=20 07 September 1999 18:43
Subject:=20 nationals

Ben & Chris
 
My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward = the=20 point that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit = out of a=20 tourney .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased=20 considerably over the past couple of years since the introduction of = the=20 "compulsory tournaments".
I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate=20 community decide to form the BUA to take over from = the BUF,=20 then when these compulsory tournaments in the future are put on = then=20 all the profits/less reasonable expenses, should go = back to the=20 BUA instead of the present situation that we have found ourselves in = where=20 certain individuals profit. Before you say BUF TAX let me point out = that I=20 feel this rate needs to be increased.
And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You = told me=20 that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council = decided/never=20 asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave anyone = any=20 money back!!! (so did you make £50 for every pitch you didn't = pay for=20 last time).
I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free = and if=20 they do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ = (Richer)  !!!
Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester = council??? Red=20 tape , Lost invoices and all that !!!!
And by the way how many teams did bid for this years = nationals!! apart=20 from "Leicester city council"
 
Si.b      now nursing my hands after having = my=20 knuckles rapped
 
P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run = many=20 tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an = ultimate=20 one as I know how many moaning players there are in our wonderful=20 sport.
 
Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !!=20
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BEF968.F99EC700-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 7 23:06:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03431 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:04:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03418 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:04:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from duck.prod.itd.earthlink.net (duck.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.117]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24465 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:04:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.188.135.232] (userb020.uk.uudial.com [193.149.71.3]) by duck.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02610 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:04:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: andrewline@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:05:43 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: andrewline@earthlink.net (Andrew Vickers, Caroline Batzdorf) Subject: Getting to Nationals Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This may be way too early to ask but: Is anyone driving to Leicester from London to get there for the first game on SUNDAY? Andrew Vickers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 8 11:27:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18744 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:26:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18739 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:26:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from proxy1.richardsbutler.com (mail.richardsbutler.com [195.152.50.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23087 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:26:02 +0100 (BST) Received: by naintl.netmanage.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:26:22 +0100 Message-ID: <0B187CA43648D311B5BA00005A410C9A5710E8@naintl.netmanage.com> From: "Stanwell-Smith, Helen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'jewell tara s'" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Transworld & Sky Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:26:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My TV guide doesn't mention Transworld sport being on Sky Sports 2 and 3 tomorrow....... Does anyone know when it is on/what channel? > > Transworld Sport have moved the Clubs coverage to: > > Thursday 9th, Sky Sport 2 & 3 > > > > RICHARDS BUTLER INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM Beaufort House 15 St Botolph Street London EC3A 7EE England Authorised by the Law Society to conduct investment business. The partners of Richards Butler are either solicitors or registered foreign lawyers. A full list of partners and their professional qualifications is available at the above address. This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 8 13:11:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06741 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:09:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06735 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:09:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04069 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:09:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 13:07:07 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:08:43 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED594@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Simon P Barlow'" Subject: RE: nationals Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:08:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si - I'll reply a bit more seriously than Ben ;-) (I can't comment on specific Red issues) I've had this argument before with people, but you say you've organised tennis events - I don't know how they relate in terms of organisation when compared to Ultimate events, but at least you know what is involved. Organising any event like this take a lot of time and effort, and very few people are going to do it out of the kindness of their heart - they are doing it for a reason; be that reason as basic as their team wants to have some warm up games before Worlds without having to travel too far, or their club wants to raise funds to be able to buy team kit, or an individual wants to raise money for the GB juniors to go to a foreign tournament. Your suggestion that we all do it for free / next to nothing isn't going to wash. So what are the two scenarios; 1) That those people organising events charge you - make a profit, and then put that money back into the sport somewhere, by paying to go to other tournaments, either as individuals, or as clubs, in this country or abroad. They use those profits to pay for BUF fees. So the people who lose out here are those people who don't organise tournaments - they end up paying for everyone else's ultimate. 2) all the tournaments are run at cost / small profit, and every club runs one - in which case its fair; I don't pay over the odds to go to your tournament, and you don't pay over the odds to go to mine. But as soon as some teams don't organise an event then they are expecting other people to put in the hard work to allow them to play. So I start charging more because I have to travel 300 miles to go to a tournament, rather than the 50 miles down the road. So how do we shift from 1 to 2. Well when the requests for bids for events starts for next year - and it will start soon!!, you put in a bid that matches or surpasses everyone else's, but you quote a lower entry cost, undercut everyone else so that we can all play for cheap. Meanwhile, as you say the people that moan, grumble and complain because everything is not exactly how they would like - start up without any concept of how much effort it is. Why the rising costs of tournaments - because players now expect more; we're no longer happy playing in some farmers field dodging the cows, we expect clubhouse / marquee to shelter from the weather, we want food, first aid cover, quality pitches. We are no longer happy with 24 teams attending Nationals to be played on four pitches, with games 45 minutes long. Instead we want everything, and as you alluded to, nothing is for free. This year to fit a 16 team event in the tour format we need 8 pitches. That means including BUF tax each team has paid 40gbp just for a piece of turf - you've not even got lines, cones, water bottles, scoreboards, invites, PA system, discs, firstaid cover, massage, clubhouse / marquee, food provision, party, trophies, publicity. Any accommodation is extra - most people don't realise that almost any venue that allows you to camp on site will charge you extra for the privilege. People will quite happily spend over 40gbp at the bar in an evening, and another 15 quid for a curry, but object to paying more than a fiver for a weekends entertainment. Other questions you raised; Yes Leicester were the only bid for Nationals, and there were only 4 bids for the 5 tour events, Aberystwyth (sp? - sorry) had to pull out, which was why T1 at Hitchin was so late in being organised, and why we had to twist Kev's arm to run T5. So more bids welcomed next year - if you don't like traveling, organise one on your doorstep. Also BUF tax, yes this has gone up slightly, and yes it is annoying but it is due to be scrapped as part of the conversion to the BUA, so expect tournament prices to come down if it goes through. My apologies for going on so long, although I'm sure this debate will happen again sometime soon (Eastbourne?) Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Simon P Barlow[SMTP:dgcltd@dgcltd.screaming.net] > Sent: 07 September 1999 18:44 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: Leicester Ultimate Club; HUGHES, Chris > Subject: nationals > > Ben & Chris >   > My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the point > that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a tourney > .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased considerably over > the past couple of years since the introduction of the "compulsory > tournaments". > I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate community decide to > form the BUA to take over from the BUF, then when these compulsory > tournaments in the future are put on then all the profits/less reasonable > expenses, should go back to the BUA instead of the present situation that > we have found ourselves in where certain individuals profit. Before you > say BUF TAX let me point out that I feel this rate needs to be increased. > And as to your comment Ben about Victoria park being free!! You told me > that you didn't have to pay for tour 1 as Leicester council decided/never > asked for the money after the event. And Red never gave anyone any money > back!!! (so did you make £50 for every pitch you didn't pay for last > time). > I'm not bothered as these days you don't get anything for free and if they > do it again this time then you can consider yourselves luckier/ (Richer)  > !!! > Also doesn't one of the Red players work for Leicester council??? Red tape > , Lost invoices and all that !!!! > And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! apart > from "Leicester city council" >   > Si.b      now nursing my hands after having my knuckles rapped >   > P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run many > tennis (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an ultimate > one as I know how many moaning players there are in our wonderful sport. >   > Ben I now expect pooper scoupers by every pitch !! > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 8 19:47:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10281 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:46:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10263 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:45:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20479 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:45:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Omj7-000PEb-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:28:32 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: nationals References: <009601bef958$d344eae0$3bef31d4@simon> In-Reply-To: <009601bef958$d344eae0$3bef31d4@simon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Simon P Barlow writes > My comments were meant slightly tongue in cheek to put forward the point that's fine then... > that tournament directors/clubs make far too much profit out of a tourney try it, and then tell me what you forgot to budget for (Colin did, and his mistake was to expect teams to attend, before asking them, and budgeting accordingly! - he'll know next time, assuming there is one.) > .And how the price of entry to tournaments has increased considerably over > the past couple of years since the introduction of the "compulsory > tournaments". ...and the introduction of half-reasonable venues? ...charging reasonable ground fees? Take the going rate for a decent quality football/hockey pitch for a game slot (2 hrs?)... multiply by the number of hours that an Ultimate tournament uses it for, and multiply again by the number of pitches you need to use for an Ultimate tournament - and hope that we are always able to get a "bulk booking" discount! (even Southampton Uni are planning to charge their own students full whack for hosting any future TOUR events - mostly due of the number of NON students that attend!) Add in the (not inconsiderable) costs of "luxuries" like St Johns, Masseurs, trophies, game discs, booking the campsite... > I feel personally that if / when the UK Ultimate community decide to form the > BUA to take over from the BUF, then when these compulsory tournaments in the > future are put on then all the profits/less reasonable expenses, should go > back to the BUA A few years ago the BUF was a.k.a. Toby Green - he was just about the only person doing anything (visible) - i.e. he ran ALL the National Tournaments (in Oxford) AND published Ultimatum. Why? He was the only (visible) one to get of his arse and do something for the simple rewards of doing it, and (mostly) making people happy. > instead of the present situation that we have found ourselves > in where certain individuals profit. The rewards now exist that other/more people are willing to get up and do things. If you want to remove those rewards, fine, but be prepared to train with your team, arrange fixtures with others, and play very few tournaments, unless you organise them. Once "competition" between Tournament Directors occurs, there'll be more chance of the "minimal profit" scenario. > Before you say BUF TAX let me point out > that I feel this rate needs to be increased. Um, I think you'll find that the move from BUF to BUA would be designed to REDUCE the tournament taxes (and make tournies slightly cheaper!) > I'm not bothered and you've NOT struck on one of my pet hates, in the slightest, at all, and it doesn't sound that way, does it? :) > And by the way how many teams did bid for this years nationals!! apart from > "Leicester city council" How many _teams_ actually bid for ANY of the "compulsory" events? or run the non-compulsory ones, for that matter? Southampton was bid for/run by the Skunks committee, Exeter used to be a "Uriel" affair, but now is really Kev + Jenny Lowe, Leicester events are generally _staffed_ by Red players, The Lurkers tournament was organised and run (predominantly) by Cliff, Druids manage to attend Ross (but the organisation and staffing is generally quite specifically limited) Edinburgh? not many! why not? lack of knowledge of facilities, or requirements, or lack of time to get out and find things? or lack of willingness do so? > P.S I know how difficult it is to run Tournaments as I have run many tennis > (week long) tournaments that's why I don't want to run an ultimate one as I > know how many moaning players there are in our wonderful sport. Yeah - most players try to skive the presentation to be home in time for tea, don't say "thanks" on the way out, leave their rubbish on a convenient patch of grass and then complain that they've left their boots behind and won't have them back in time for training. They bitch about the location, the cost, the weather, the seedings, schedule and format, the lack of drinking water, ice, hot showers, the hard ground in the campsite, the distance to the cashpoint, and the strength of the coffee - so why do TDs run Tournaments? Obviously, so they can bitch back, and know what they're talking about! Wayne co-ordinating TD for Fluid Druids joint-TD, Layout Dreams consultant-TD and unofficial staff member, many other UK Ultimate events - just raking it in!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 08:45:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17889 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:43:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17881 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:42:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01509 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:42:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from p03s07a01.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.135.4] helo=cow) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Oyr4-0003Ap-00; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:42:51 +0100 Message-ID: <008801befa96$6771c420$048793c3@cow> From: "Iain Roberts" To: "Wayne Retter" , Subject: Re: nationals Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:36:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks for bringing this up Wayne - I was going to before but didn't get time. WR>(even Southampton Uni are planning to charge their own students full WR>whack for hosting any future TOUR events - mostly due of the number of WR>NON students that attend!) Skunks started hosting tournament back in the day that Al Baldwin was the club secretary to raise funds so that we could make playing Ultimate cheaper for our students (subsidise playing tops, fees etc). This is still the reason why they do it. I've seen the figures for next year and providing they don't arrange discounts for bulk bookings (not probable) then they propose to charge £25 per session per pitch for outdoors and about £15 per session for the sports hall. A session is 1.5 hours, do your sums and then add on another few hundred pounds for the extra indoor pitch at the school at christmas. It's not so much of a profit maker any more is it? This means that students can't subsidise their players tops and their match fees. Maybe this will lead to less players, the result of this is that there will be fewer players in the future. I think you'll find this sort of scenario all over the country, and maybe this is why there aren't that many tournament bids going in for the 'compulsory' events. For all the time and effort put in (trust me it's a fair amount) you don't get that much return if you're doing it privately and none at all if you're running it for the club. Ask Wayne and Chris how much they have made out of Layout Dreams over the past few years - and they'll tell you not very much. So please stop moaning about tournament costs, generally if the price is set then it's there for a reason - they're not trying to make as much profit as Charlie Mead but some would be nice. And some appreciation for what they do probably wouldn't go amiss. To all the Druids on Britdisc, I think the idea for fees at Ross next year is a good one. Shall we start at Nationals? Cheers Iain ex-Skunks Now Druids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 12:30:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07987 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:28:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07981 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:28:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21347 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:28:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-41.lead.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.40.169] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11P2Nd-0008Fj-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:28:41 +0100 Reply-To: "Ben Peek" From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fw: [superfly] Worlds on TV Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:26:48 +0100 Message-ID: <01befab6$34686000$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message appeared on Eurodisc earlier. I don't think it's been posted to Britdisc yet... Ben SuperFly -----Original Message----- From: Adriano Vitali To: superfly Date: 09 September 1999 09:29 Subject: [superfly] Worlds on TV >Looks like we'll have to get up early on Sat morning. Channel4 8.00-9.00am > >From: Thomas Griesbaum >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:52:08 +0200 >Subject: Fwd: WUCC on Transworld Sport > >I am forwarding this on behalf of Charlie Mead, the Tournament Director of >the WUCC 99. > >Thomas >-------------------------------------------------------------- >WUCC footage will be shown on Transworld Sport this week. To be broadcast >Thursday and Friday on SKY sports 2 and 3 in Europe, also in Asia, >USA/Canada/S America on Thursday/Friday sometime and Channel 4 in UK on >Saturday. > >Will go to 133 countries. Footage is 6.5 minutes long apparently. > >Please tell all your team mates, members, friends. Get together. Have a >party. >relive all those Scotish moments. > > >Charlie Mead > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. >Start with up to 150 Points for joining! >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/805 > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/superfly >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 13:11:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14557 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14550 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (mailhost2.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02072 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.56.22] (th-en139-022.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.56.22]) by mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13410 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:09:12 +0100 (BST) Subject: BritOpen99 Final call Message-Id: <000000348283019723741@daletaylor.co.uk> From: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:09:01 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Britdisc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA14551 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, Not only is there still one place in the tournament remaining, but the Brussels team are so short of players that they're prepared to either give their slot to another team and pick up with a team, OR take on any ringers out there who are looking for a team. It's just one week to the start of the event, so please let me know now if you are still considering entering a team or as an individual, at the best non-tour event of the year. Or would like to play with some very freindly Belgians. Also, as long as I have 24 teams paid up, I will consider taking the risk of issuing the full schedule pre-event. Wouldn't it be nice to know if you're not required on the field until say 11am on Friday? Nolan PS I can now confirm that his year the Open, in line with other major events, will have a physio on hand to deal with those aches and pains. --------------------------------------- British Open 99 Email: open99@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: +44 (0) 1323 430700 Fax: +44 (0) 1323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 14:15:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25176 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:14:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25163 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:14:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from ritig8.rit.reuters.com (ritig8.rit.reuters.com [199.171.195.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05666 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:14:10 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199909091314.OAA05666@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:09:32 +0000 (GMT) From: "Patrick Moore (5)5884" Subject: Chris and Dave Patten In-reply-to: <199901040747.HAA17614@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Hop-count: 2 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for clogging up the airwaves, but can anybody give me a mail address for either Chris or Dave Patten... Thanks, Patrick -- patrick.moore@reuters.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 15:04:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03835 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:02:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03825 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:02:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f287.hotmail.com [209.185.130.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA03518 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:02:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 87623 invoked by uid 0); 9 Sep 1999 14:01:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990909140146.87622.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.146.64.165 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:01:46 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.146.64.165] From: "Edward Grigson" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Please remove from list Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 15:01:46 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please remove Edward.Grigson@btinternet.com from Britdisc. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 17:05:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26337 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:04:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26327 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntex1.webleicester.co.uk (ntex1.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16336 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: by ntex1.webleicester.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:10:26 +0100 Message-ID: <51F495A44C86D2119A5B0080AD7451A30F0A5E@ntex1.webleicester.co.uk> From: Ian Scotland To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: nationals COSTS!! Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:10:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk FYI Talking to one of the Japanese players at a WFDF congress some years ago (I think 4), to enter their nationals cost players individually in the region of 60GBP= (this included 30GBP= for membership of their national association without which you couldn't enter nationals) but the rest was the player fee for a weekend tournament. Granted this is extreme, but we are getting organisation of our sport for bargain basement prices in my opinion. Anyone going to the Open should ask one of the cricket players how much their sport costs them each year - one of their committee had estimated that the average cost per player per year was in the region of 3000GBP. I am not involved in the set-up or organisation of this years nationals, but I have been and know that everyone involved puts in a lot of work. Whats more Red can expect to perform worse as a team because of the organisation load placed on players who are both trying to play and organise at the same time. Scott From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 17:15:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28415 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:14:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28407 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:14:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17282 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:14:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:14:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C5AB@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: nationals COSTS!! Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:14:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Whats > more Red can expect to perform worse as a team because of the > organisation > load placed on players who are both trying to play and > organise at the same > time. C'mon Scott enough of the smokescreen, we know that running Nationals is really just a cynical attempt to gain home field advantage... ;-p rt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 9 20:38:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23793 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:37:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from primrose-atm (psuth@primrose-atm [137.205.12.7]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23787 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:37:19 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:37:19 +0100 (BST) From: mundy To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: don't miss whiplash! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk dear britdisc this is a call to all whiplash players past, present and future. - play for us at the british open in eastbourne 17-19 sept 1999. yes, once more "the only british team to be the subject of a takeover bid by a sinister mega-global corporation" (tm) are, err... short of players and both desire and request your assistance. we welcome deserters and loose cannons of any disposition. contact me asap if you are interested in playing for us. love ed -- ed shardlow 01243 783618 whiplash bears social sec 99/00 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 10 01:00:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA05908 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:58:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05899 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:58:40 +0100 (BST) From: Tedmunter1@aol.com Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10448 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:58:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from Tedmunter1@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 8EQJa06600 (4216) for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5fe396d9.2509a386@aol.com> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:57:58 EDT Subject: Re: Please remove from list To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please remove tedmunter1@aol.com from Britdisc. Thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 10 11:35:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09915 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09897 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:33:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.screaming.net (IDENT:root@[212.49.224.247]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15869 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:33:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from simon ([212.49.241.34]) by smtp1.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23219 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:35:46 GMT Message-ID: <010301befb78$596e4a00$8fe431d4@simon> From: "Simon P Barlow" To: Subject: nationals Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:33:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BEFB80.4A83F460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BEFB80.4A83F460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben & Chris I hope I've not offended you both or Red and must apologise if I have = too much over the past few days but felt I had to start some discussion = about the transition from the BUF to the BUA also nationals as I think = it is quite an important matter and as yet with the upcoming annual = meeting no one has made many opinions recently. For my sins I won't be = able to make Eastbourne as wedding fever has hit my friends recently ( = stupid people ) so thought I'd put forward my opinions (right or wrong). I feel some of the humour got lost on the way through and after having = being told by several Chevy members that I should change my email = address to=20 I_didn't_look_but_fuck_it,_I'm_leaping!@what?mail.com=20 or=20 a_dozen_chevron_players_slap_their_foreheads@who?mail.com I thought id better clear the air!!!! I still think that the BUA should take over all Tour Tournaments as if = the BUA goes ahead there will be someone paid to run these tournaments, = obviously help will be required by volunteers and other tourneys do need = to run to help the sports "fun" side and to also promote the sport in = the future. Also can we get nationals to be held at a sunnier and warmer = time of year. I agree with you Chris that we all will spend lots of money on beer etc = and not so much on tourney fees and still expect all the facilities that = come with it!!!! And I also agree that it takes alot of time and effort to put on a = tourney and that we need more bids around the country (I must say that = it was refreshing this season to play at a few spread out tourneys that = didn't take long to travel to from Manchester) next year I expect them = all to be on the south coast !! and I know all about you having Kev Lowe = sort out tour 5 and how we would have been in the shit without him.(and = chevy for tidying up the shit left by all the players) By the way Kev got Married last Saturday to Jennie (Good Party) Good = luck guys!! Well that's my ranting over with for some time as I don't want to get = the same reputation as Colin!!! Si.b=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BEFB80.4A83F460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ben & Chris
 
I hope I've not offended you both or Red and must = apologise if=20 I have too much over the past few days but felt I had to start some = discussion=20 about the transition from the BUF to the BUA also nationals as I think = it is=20 quite an important matter and as yet with the upcoming annual meeting no = one has=20 made many opinions recently. For my sins I won't be able to make = Eastbourne as=20 wedding fever has hit my friends recently ( stupid people ) so thought = I'd put=20 forward my opinions (right or wrong).
I feel some of the humour got lost on the way = through and=20 after having being told by several Chevy members that I should change my = email=20 address to
 
I_didn't_look_but_fuck_it,_I'm_leaping!@what?mail.com
or=20
a_dozen_chevron_players_slap_their_foreheads@who?mail.com
=
I thought id better clear the air!!!!

I still = think=20 that the BUA should take over all Tour Tournaments as if the BUA goes = ahead=20 there will be someone paid to run these tournaments, obviously help will = be=20 required by volunteers and other tourneys do need to run to help the = sports=20 "fun" side and to also promote the sport in the future. Also can we get=20 nationals to be held at a sunnier and warmer time of year.
I agree with you Chris that we all will spend lots = of money on=20 beer etc and not so much on tourney fees and still expect all the = facilities=20 that come with it!!!!
And I also agree that it takes alot of time and = effort to put=20 on a tourney and that we need more bids around the country (I must say = that it=20 was refreshing this season to play at a few spread out tourneys that = didn't take=20 long to travel to from Manchester) next year I expect them all to be on = the=20 south coast !! and I know all about you having Kev Lowe sort out tour 5 = and how=20 we would have been in the shit without him.(and chevy for tidying up the = shit=20 left by all the players)
 
By the way Kev got Married last Saturday to=20 Jennie (Good Party) Good luck guys!!
 
Well that's my ranting over with for some time as I = don't want=20 to get the same reputation as Colin!!!
 
Si.b
------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01BEFB80.4A83F460-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 10 13:15:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25463 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:13:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25448 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:13:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13457 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:13:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA12196 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:11:35 +0100 Message-Id: <199909101211.NAA12196@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:18:48 +0100 To: From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Ultimate Vid on www Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Check out: www.endzone.co.uk/ultimate for an ultimate video produced by Jester. Barry From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 10 16:40:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28035 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:38:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28026 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:38:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de (irafs1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.100]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA12039 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:38:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de [129.13.2.181] by irafs1 with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:38:47 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909101211.NAA12196@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Organisation: Faculty of Informatics, University of Karlsruhe Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:40:15 +0200 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Re: Ultimate Vid on www Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For more videos on the web check out http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom1999video.htm Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 10 21:59:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12128 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:57:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12123 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:57:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe13.hotmail.com [216.32.180.117]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA02898 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:57:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 16142 invoked by uid 65534); 10 Sep 1999 20:56:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19990910205629.16141.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [62.172.84.120] From: "Ali Topping" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Thanks all Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:54:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEFBD7.05DA8520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEFBD7.05DA8520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to you all for your help in finding me a team for Eastbourne. = I wish to say a special Ta to Kev Lowe for his truely MARVELOUS help, = and the rest of the Chevy lads. I'll do my best! Thanks guy's.=20 Kev, I know that you are still on your honneymoon at the mo, but I'm = sure that you'll get this sooner or later. Thanks again to all thoes who have concidered and helped. Hope to = see you all at the tourni! Ali Topping ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEFBD7.05DA8520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks to you all = for your help=20 in finding me a team for Eastbourne. I wish to say a special Ta to Kev = Lowe for=20 his truely MARVELOUS help, and the rest of the Chevy lads. I'll do my = best!=20 Thanks guy's.
 
    Kev, I know that you = are still=20 on your honneymoon at the mo, but I'm sure that you'll get this sooner = or=20 later.
 
    Thanks again to all = thoes who=20 have concidered and helped. Hope to = see you all=20 at the tourni!
 
Ali Topping
------=_NextPart_000_0042_01BEFBD7.05DA8520-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Sep 11 13:13:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19274 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19268 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:11:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07793 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:11:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-006.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.6]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA29893 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:13:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003601befc4f$5f93f2e0$03a492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Nationals - Tournament Details Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 13:12:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk (apologies to non-interested Britdisc people) If any teams attending the Nationals have changed their addresses recently could you please let me know ASAP. I have the following as contacts for the top 16:- Druids - Neil Travers, 5 Cross Road........ Wyld Stallyns - Rob Cole, 25 Pyegrove Chase........ Phat'eds - Pete Coy, 21 Rosa Road....... Nightfever - Nick Dray, 35 Lorne Gardens....... Headrush - Andrew Orr-Ewing, 46 Alma Court....... First Touch - David Whitehead, 4 Lyndhurst Road..... Chevron - Steve Kennedy, Flat 32.......... BAF - Merrick Cardew, Lan-Kidden......... Strange Blue - Dora Kemp, McDonald Inst....... Catch 22 - Simon Hill, 10 Niton Road......... Dough Boy - Jonathan Sinclair, Flat F........ UTI - Dave Trovell, 10B Harberton Road Mohawk Mwnci Magic - Alex Livingstone, Ultimate Club pigeon hole @ Uni. of Wales...... Sharks - Mike Beaton, 7 Juxon Street......... SOUP - David Grayson, 15 Roxburgh Street......... I will post the details on Monday evening so you have until then to let me know of any address changes. If you ask me nicely, I might be willing to send copies/faxes to other players. Thanks Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Sep 11 19:32:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20479 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:30:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20473 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:30:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14393 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:30:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-042.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.42]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA04226 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:32:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000d01befc84$547b4540$2aa492c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: BUF Annual General Meeting Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:33:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, The BUF AGM will be held on Friday 17th September at 8pm at The Sandford Room, The Saffrons, Eastbourne Below is an agenda for the meeting. We have limited it to three core issues which we believe are essential discussion topics. If you feel there is anything else which needs to be aired urgently then - time permitting - we will do our best to fit this into 'Any Other Business' We urge every team to be represented if at all possible. To make this easier we will be allowing teams to nominate a proxy from another team to represent them. proxies can represent a maximum of two teams only. If you wish to be represented by a proxy we require notice in advance. Please therefore notify us *before* the day of the meeting. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary =============================================== 1999 British Ultimate Federation - Annual General Meeting Friday 17th September, 8pm The Sandford Room, The Saffrons, Eastbourne AGENDA Apologies for Absence Minutes of the Last Meeting Officers Reports Election of Officers The Tour Reduction of the tour to FOUR events, maintaining the size of the events. The tour has clogged the calendar, with GB training next year, the present 3 week cycle removes the possibility of having non-tour tournaments. Fiesta being canceled and Lurkers having a poor turnout suggests that the tour dominates the schedule too much. GB teams Nomination of Co-ed Manager. Co-ordination of an overall strategy to produce a co-ed team at World Games in 2001. Confirmation of Present / New GB managers for other divisions. Decision on selection process for GB Open / Women's teams - selection of individuals or club? British Ultimate Association Mandate from teams to move forward with BUA proposal. Propose a time scale for achieving the new organisational model. Discuss firming up numbers of players and costings. Propose referendum of teams as to whether to accept the final proposal. Any Other Business Date of Next Meeting Toast to the Spirit of the Game From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 09:06:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA25344 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:55:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25334 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:54:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12265 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:47:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA21100 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199909130647.HAA21100@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Thursday 16th September 1999 The British Open Championships 1999 (4 days) @ Saffrons, Eastbourne [Outdoor Ultimate] There will be six pitches. (Max 24 teams) More details will be issued as and when available. Please note the change of date - moved from 9 September! Contact Nolan Taylor Address BritOpen 99 Admin Office 3 Wish Road Eastbourne East Sussex BN21 4NX Email open99@daletaylor.co.uk Fax 01323 430223 Phone 01323 430700 URL http://www.tradeworld.co.uk/open99/ Saturday 18th September 1999 BDGA Golf - A tier tournament (2 days) @ Burnlaw [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Email villiers-stuart@lineone.net Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Comment THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 09:29:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19049 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:26:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19022 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:26:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f168.hotmail.com [216.32.181.168]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28259 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:26:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 2493 invoked by uid 0); 13 Sep 1999 08:26:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990913082614.2492.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 192.71.102.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:26:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [192.71.102.2] From: "Suzanne Penfold" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Eastbourne Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:26:13 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone going from the Leicester/Nottingham area to Eastbourne on Friday night who has a space in their car for someone who is looking for a lift and is willing to pay good petrol money? Cheers Suze (twin peaks/ex-skunk) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 10:57:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12308 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12302 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11985 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06829 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11QFCy-000CzZ-0K; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:22:41 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:34:05 +0100 To: buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Cc: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Rumour-mongering - apology! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear BUF (especially Ben), It looks like our messages about the AGM "crossed in the post". Sorry! Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 10:57:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12355 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12334 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12014 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06855 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:55:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Q8bO-000F5g-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:19:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:44:52 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Myth-busting and Rumour-mongering... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Myth: Wayne has knowledge of and influence in the way Ultimate is run in the British Isles. Fact: Wayne says lots, sometimes it's useful stuff, less often people listen, every now and again my comments are taken into consideration. Hopefully the following will be taken into consideration! Rumours: On the Saturday of the BUF Open in Eastbourne, this coming weekend (i.e. 6 days from when most of you will read this), the British Ultimate Federation will be holding the Annual General Meeting - this is the one that ALL members may (ought to?) attend and make comments at, vote new/continuing committees, etc. There are likely to be several topics of discussion that may affect the ways in which Ultimate is run and occurs in the British Isles. (Typical examples, from previous rumours, include: BUF vs. BUA, membership fees, Tour structure, Nationals, International competition teams - remember that CoEd is "official" now!, and the financial situation.) Does anyone care? Would anyone (else) like to see the Agenda so that they know whether they ought to care? Would anyone like to propose any items for discussion, either as specified Agenda items, or under Any Other Business? Would anyone like to be prepared for any discussions in which they have any interest? Does anyone know what time the meeting is planned for? Will it mean I have to forgo the pleasures of the cold showers after the floodlit demo game (another rumour based on past experiences!), or even the game itself, and/or order a delivery dinner? Anyone from any teams that are not attending the tournament planning to send a representative? It's a good opportunity to come down to a great tournament and pick up for another team! Wayne PS: Dear BUF (Secretary, I presume), Could _I_ please see the Agenda, so that I may have _useful_ comments prepared... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 11:20:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17987 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:18:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17969 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:18:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26063 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:18:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.54.216] (th-en136-216.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.54.216]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA27378; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:18:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: Myth-busting and Rumour-mongering... Message-Id: <000000353203020062708@daletaylor.co.uk> From: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:18:28 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (BritDisc), Postmaster@mailhost1.dircon.co.uk, wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk (Wayne Retter) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Sat, Sep 11, 1999, 7:44:52 pm GMT Wayne Retter wrote: >Rumours: >On the Saturday of the BUF Open in Eastbourne, this coming weekend (i.e. >6 days from when most of you will read this), the British Ultimate >Federation will be holding the Annual General Meeting - this is the one >that ALL members may (ought to?) attend and make comments at, vote >new/continuing committees, etc. > ...Fiction! Fact: The BUF AGM is on FRIDAY night at Eastbourne. That's probably FOUR days from when most of you are reading this. N --------------------------------------- Nolan Taylor Dale Taylor Ltd Email: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: 01323 430700 Fax: 01323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 11:39:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21811 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:37:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21799 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:37:33 +0100 (BST) From: sally.riggs@ac.com Received: from mpcmr1001.ac.com (MPCMR1001.ac.com [170.252.160.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16209 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:37:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from emehm1101.ac.com (EMEHM1101.ac.com [10.2.102.45]) by mpcmr1001.ac.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA15389 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 05:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: by emehm1101.ac.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 862567EB.003AA160 ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 05:40:24 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ANDERSEN CONSULTING To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <862567EB.003AA047.00@emehm1101.ac.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:35:58 +0000 Subject: Winter Ultimate in London Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Calling all Londoners As the summer season at Clapham Common has officially ended - thank you Paul Hurt for all your organisation and cone-bringing reliability - I wonder if anyone has organised any winter evening open floodlight games? Last year there were games at Tooting Bec athletic grounds. Can someone let me know if this slot has been booked again and whether it is intended to be open sessions. If it is not in hand, I am happy to get in contact with the Council and let you know the outcome. Has anyone organised anywhere else.........? Cheers Sally From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 12:08:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29388 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:06:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29366 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:06:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00364 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:06:16 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:06:15 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C5C6@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Winter Ultimate in London Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:06:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sally (and other interested Londoners), Doug (of Clapham Bullfrogs and UTI) has always been the one to book the tooting pitches and he's been on the case for a week or so. He's been speaking to the guy in the hut at Tooting and is trying to book TWO nights a week down there. Last year the practices became very over-subscribed so we're trying to split the practices into one closed night and one open night. We think there's definitely enough demand. If we can't get two nights there we're going to try to book a floodlit track middle in Battersea Park (apparently not Astro-turf unlike the rest of the floodlit pitches there). Practices are likely to start sometime at the beginning of Octobrer when the current round of bookings end and the clocks go back. More info will follow when we hear back from Doug. Get your tights out for the winter! cya this weekend, Roger > Calling all Londoners > > As the summer season at Clapham Common has officially ended - > thank you Paul > Hurt for all your organisation and cone-bringing reliability > - I wonder if > anyone has organised any winter evening open floodlight > games? Last year there > were games at Tooting Bec athletic grounds. Can someone let > me know if this slot > has been booked again and whether it is intended to be open > sessions. If it is > not in hand, I am happy to get in contact with the Council > and let you know the > outcome. Has anyone organised anywhere else.........? > > Cheers > > Sally > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 14:28:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23429 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:26:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23407 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:26:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail08.prontomail.com (prontomail8.prontomail.com [209.185.149.108] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14585 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:26:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from darroch_reid (209.185.149.223) by mail08.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:21:47 -0700 From: "Possum" Message-Id: <199909130623481@darroch_reid.looksmart.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:23:48 -0800 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lifts to Eastbourne X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA23412 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, Wondering if anyone's got space in their car for 2 or 3 people travelling from the West Midlands to the tournament? Possum. LookSmart … or keep looking. http://www.looksmart.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 13 20:46:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27293 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:44:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27280 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:44:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14438 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:44:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-031.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.31]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12794 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:46:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000501befe21$020c77e0$1fa492c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Nationals: Directions Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:46:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Directions and Info about the Nationals should be hitting the top 16 doormats on Tuesday morning. As requested, I have stuck these on the web also:- http://homepages.webleicester.co.uk/bravil/Leicester.doc This is a rather large (2mb) Word 97 doc so I have attached the raw text below and put the map alone on the web at: http://homepages.webleicester.co.uk/bravil/leicestermap.gif I have not included any schedule details yet (still to be finalised with Chris Hughes) but you can assume a 9am captains meeting and a 9:30am start. Full schedule to follow. There are still places available for the C Division 'Not the Nationals' which will be limited to 8 teams max. Contact me ASAP if you are interested. Hassle or pay me at Eastbourne if you like. Ben ===================================== Dear Team Contact, 1999 BUF National Outdoor Finals Victoria Park, Leicester 25/26 September Congratulations on qualifying in the top sixteen in the UK. It is assumed that you wish to take part in the tournament so there is no official deadline for entries but in order that competition schedule can be prepared in time can you please forward your entry fee to arrive no later than Saturday 18th September. About the Tournament…… Format The top sixteen will play in two separate divisions of eight with no cross-over between divisions as per the Tour. Round robin in pools of four on the Saturday will be followed on Sunday by semi-finals and finals to determine placing. There will be no quarter-finals as these games will already have been played on the Saturday within the pool. There will also be a third division for teams who want a cheap tournament with the chance to watch the big games on the Sunday (i.e. to provide some spectators!) Venue We have secured the cricket area on Victoria Park which promise far superior quality pitches than the last tournament at this venue. It should also be noted that park has had all summer to recover from the previous football season so it should be in great condition. There will be eight pitches for the top two divisions so the games can be spaced evenly with no teams having to play back-to-back games. Facilities Showers, marquee, cones, water, scoreboards as normal. Car parking on the coach drive along the side of the park. Physios and First-aiders from the Academy of Sports Therapy. Public address system to make sure everyone knows where they are playing and what results have come in. A runner for each of the three divisions to make sure everything is running smoothly. Accommodation We have tried to provide a range of options for differing wallet sizes. Please see the attached accommodation sheet for details. Entertainment Many of you will remember the legendary party when P.J. Baker and the Leicester All-stars performed at ‘The Shed’ nightclub. Well we’re back at The Shed again with FREE ENTRY BEFORE 10PM to see the recently signed Ainsley Lister Band (rock/blues) plus support from Vigorous (rock covers) plus a Sixties Disco in the lower room of the club. Publicity In Leicester we pride ourselves on the level of publicity we attract and if all goes to plan this tournament will be no exception. Already covered in the Leicester Link magazine (reaching every household in the city) and the Leicester Mercury, we are making a concerted effort to get the event noticed. Look out for more radio and newspaper articles nearer the time. Who knows, there may even be some spectators! Money As I mentioned above, I would appreciate full payment by the weekend of the British Open at Eastbourne. Cheque for £100 Payable to ‘Red Ultimate Club’ To Leicester Ultimate Club PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ Look forward to seeing you all. Regards, Ben Ravilious Tournament Director Directions & Parking We have available the coach drive along the western edge of Victoria Park. You will be met at the park gates by one of us and directed to a parking space. Please note we will be locking the park gates once the tournament has begun. If you arrive late phone Ben on 0403 460866 to be let in. We strongly recommend you do not leave vehicles near the park overnight. NB: YOU ARE FORBIDDEN TO DRIVE OR PARK ANYWHERE ON VICTORIA PARK OTHER THAN THE COACH DRIVE FROM M1 (SOUTH) JUNCTION 21/M69 (NORTH END). Follow A563 OUTER RING LEICESTER SOUTH/EAST for four miles to lights at junction with A50 NORTHAMPTON road. Turn LEFT, signposted A50 CITY CENTRE, and follow the Welford Road for 1.4 miles to junction with University Road. In detail note following sequence along Welford Road: two sets of lights; dual-carriageway, with shops and filling stations; traffic lights, followed by playing fields on right. Then turn RIGHT at next lights into University Road. Go past the University Campus and turn RIGHT up Regent Road and the park gates are on the corner at the top of the hill FROM M1 (NORTH) JUNCTION 22/A50 BURTON. At busy times drivers are strongly advised to follow the M1 Junction 21 (see above). Otherwise, follow A50 LEICESTER signs along dual-carriageway towards city centre. Near centre A50 signs now indicate NORTHAMPTON. Follow A50 NORTHAMPTON signs through one-way system. When A50 becomes a two-way road again, follow it uphill across railway and past cemetery on left. Turn LEFT at next lights into University Road. Past the University Campus turn RIGHT up Regent Road and the park gates are on the corner at the top of the hill. FROM A6 LOUGHBOROUGH. Entry to Leicester is signalled by short dual-carriageway, `City of Leicester' sign, and large roundabout. Take third exit into narrow 30mph road signposted City Centre A6. Keep straight on for 1 mile until road merges at lights with the A46 NEWARK road, which now becomes a dual-carriageway. NOW read next Route `From A46 Newark'. FROM A46 NEWARK. Follow CITY CENTRE signs along dual-carriageway, flanked by many shops, and over the first flyover. Then turn LEFT at the second flyover, onto Central Ring Road dual-carriageway. Keep straight on at next roundabout, then follow A6 MARKET HARBOROUGH signs through six sets of lights. Continue to follow A6 signs, past Railway Station on left and then turn right at next lights into University Road. Take the first LEFT – Regent Road - and the park gates are on the corner at the top of the hill. FROM A47 PETERBOROUGH. Entry to Leicester is signalled by long descent, followed by `City of Leicester' sign, ascent, and 30 mph restriction. Now turn LEFT into Spencefield Lane. Continue for 2.9 miles along this road. In detail note sequence: shops; golf course on left; traffic lights; descent; older shops; traffic lights. Road meets London Road (A6) at next lights. Continue straight ACROSS A6 into Granville Road. The park gates are on the corner at the end of Granville Road. FROM A6 MARKET HARBOROUGH. Follow A6 to junction with Granville Road. In detail note sequence: dual-carriageway starts at entry to Leicester, ends at 30 mph restriction; traffic lights; roundabout followed by park on left. Then filter LEFT at next lights into Granville Road. The park gates are on the corner at the end of Granville Road. FROM A50 NORTHAMPTON. Follow A50 to junction with University Road. In detail note sequence: start of first dual-carriageway; end of dual-carriageway; intersection with Outer Ring Road at lights; two more sets of lights; dual-carriageway again, with shops and filling stations; traffic lights, followed by playing fields on right. Then turn RIGHT at next lights into University Road. Go past the University Campus and turn RIGHT up Regent Road and the park gates are on the corner at the top of the hill Leicester Accommodation Not an exhaustive list but some reasonable prices. Postcodes LE1 & LE2 are both near Victoria Park. The Chase Hotel and Leisure Complex will give a special reduced rate if you tell them you're at the Frisbee Championships. Shotgun used them a couple of years ago and managed to get a packed lunch in the deal! Phone 0116 2702323 for bookings. If you're looking for something really cheap try the International Youth Hostel which is not far from the tournament. See enclosed leaflet for details. Phone 0116 2551554 for bookings Failing that there is plenty of floor space in Red and Jester households. Contact Duncan McIntosh on 0116 2530954 or mcintosh_duncan@hotmail.com The Charnwood Hotel, Bar and Restaurant, 48 Leicester Road, Narborough, Leicester, LE9 5DF Phone: +44 (0)116 286 2218, Fax: +44 (0)116 275 0119 Single from: £31.95 Double from: £47.90 Burlington Hotel, 3 Elmfield Avenue, Leicester, LE2 1RB Phone: +44 (0)116 270 5112, Fax: +44 (0)116 270 4207 Single from: £32.00 Double from: £46.00 Regency Hotel, 360 London Road, Leicester, LE2 2PL Phone: +44 (0)116 270 9634, Fax: +44 (0)116 270 1375 Single from: £35.00 Double from: £54.00 The Old Tudor Rectory Hotel, Main Street, Glenfield, Leicester, LE3 8DG Phone: +44 (0)116 291 5678, Fax: +44 (0)116 291 1416 Single from: £38.00 Double from: £42.40 Westerby House, 161 Uppingham Road, Leicester, LE5 4BP Phone: +44 (0)116 276 3906 Single: £17.00 Double: £26.00 Cumbria Guest House, 16 Westcotes Drive, Leicester, LE3 0QR Phone: +44 (0)116 254 8459 Single from: £16.00 Double from: £26.00 Scotia Hotel, 10 Westcotes Drive, Leicester, LE3 0QR Phone: +44 (0)116 254 9200, Fax: +44 (0)116 254 9200 Single from: £22.00 Double from: £39.00 Spindle Lodge Hotel, 2 West Walk, Leicester, LE1 7NA Phone: +44 (0)116 233 8801, Fax: +44 (0)116 233 8804 Single from: £27.50 Double from: £46.00 Richard's Students and Backpackers Lodge, 157 Wanlip Lane, Birstall, near Leicester, LE4 4GL Phone: +44 (0)116 267 3107 Single from: £8.50 More available from Leicester Tourist Office on 0116 2998888 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 14 07:11:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24855 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:09:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24849 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:09:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA27810 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:09:38 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 6402 invoked from network); 14 Sep 1999 06:09:37 -0000 Received: from userm165.uk.uudial.com (HELO dial.pipex.com) (193.149.77.215) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 1999 06:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <37DDE662.7853906C@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:08:34 +0100 From: Richard Robert Hims X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BRITDISC Subject: Lift to Eastbourne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Posting in the hope that someone from London may be travelling down Wednesday Evening/Thursday morning and is looking for some petrol money. Would appreciate any offers. -- Rich, Janitors 01727 813454 [work] richard.hims@dial.pipex.com [home] vik.hims@cwcom.net [if Pipex is failing to work] vik-rich@iname.com [ease of memory] rich-vik@iname.com [ease of memory] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 07:34:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11135 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:32:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from primrose-atm (bsuku@primrose-atm [137.205.12.7]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11130 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:32:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:32:54 +0100 (BST) From: Archie To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: An indoor tournamnet?... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I know everyones still mad about outdoor ultimate at the moment but im in the process of organising an indoor tournment for Dec and the hall owners need lots of notice to make it a great tournament. I was just wondering if anyone else was planning to hold an indoor tournment when i am. My plan so far is this, the tournamnet will take place in Brum (or Birmingham for southerners who arent quite in the know) and Ive provisionally booked it for 4th and 5th of December. This is at the moment just a one off and i want to make sure i dont clash with any other previously well established tournaments that i am unaware of. Can you email me back if your planning to have another tournament on the same day, also if anyones interested in playing can you let me know so i can judge interest and make sure its worthwhile. Hope to hear from you soon! and please no one shout at me if ive managed to upset anyone Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Archie (Bears/Whiplash/Slipdisc occassionally) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 10:41:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02189 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:39:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02182 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:39:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f118.hotmail.com [209.185.131.181]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA02731 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:39:21 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 27859 invoked by uid 0); 15 Sep 1999 09:38:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990915093849.27858.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.154.107.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:38:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.154.107.185] From: "Simon Brasse" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:38:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Ultimate players, My name is Simon Brasse. Over the Summer period I have attempted to start up Diabolo as a south London based team and I haven't done too bad a job. I have twenty five people to call upon to play for the team. However, for one reason or another we have been unable to attend any of the outdoor tournies. This posting is a call for anyone who would like to join Diabolo in time to go to Not The Nationals on the 25th & 26th September. I am really only interested in players who have no team and would like to stick with Diabolo through to the next season so we can go to the all important Tours and qualify for the Nationals. I have just secured sponsorship from the Pitcher & Piano braseries and team shirts will be ready by the tournement. I am willing to pay the £50 fee up front but need to have committed players first. If anyone is interested in making this their 1st tournement with Diabolo and I welcome players of any level of experience, then please contact me on 0181 769 1965 or 07775 771 221 or e-mail me at BRASSEMAN@hotmail.com. Best wishes to everyone and good luck to the top 16 (watch your backs!) Simon. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 12:41:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25744 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:40:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25727 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:40:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-p1.plantation.sdlintl.com (ns1.plantation.sdlintl.com [194.159.171.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25669 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:40:10 +0100 (BST) Received: by ns1.plantation.sdlintl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <5AGA5BLZ>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jesper Snorgaard To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Eastbourne Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:24:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi If Anyone needs a lift a lift from Sheffield or anywhere near, then I have two spaces in my car on the way down and one on the way back. I'll be going down on Thursday evening after I finish work at 5:30 pm. Please contact me by phone: - 0114 267 2714 (work) - 0114 266 3863 (home) - 07801 570 423 (mobile) Or by email: ecd97js@sheffield.ac.uk (home) or jsnorgaard@sdlintl.com (work) Please let me know as soon as possible. I'm not on britdisc at the moment so don't reply to britdisc. Jesper From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 13:35:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03261 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:34:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03251 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:33:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from datamonitor.com (gateway.datamonitor.com [193.122.152.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29819 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:33:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from larch.datamonitor.com ([192.168.128.4]) by gateway.datamonitor.com with ESMTP id <115207>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:33:31 +0100 Received: by pop.datamonitor.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:29:51 +0100 Message-ID: <996AEB00DA48D311A2780008C75B618918410C@pop.datamonitor.com> From: Sarah Gibbons To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Lift to Eastbourne - Friday Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:29:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone driving from London to Eastbourne on Friday evening? If so I'm looking for a lift. Many thanks Sarah Gibbons Senior Sales - Europe Tel: 0044 207 675 7286 Fax:0044 207 316 0630 sgibbons@datamonitor.com http://www.datamonitor.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 15:43:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23103 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:41:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23095 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:41:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12358 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:41:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA12928 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:41:51 +0100 (BST) From: "Andy Cotgreave" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: Pick-ups for Eastbourne Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:41:46 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127014FEA32@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, Does anyone want to play with Chevron at Eastbourne? Drop me a mail, or call me on 01864 395993 tonight if you want to come on down! Cheers, Andy ========== RM plc acotgreave@rmplc.net tel: 01235 823254 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 16:12:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27707 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:11:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27684 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15447 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11RGZR-0005XI-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:02:05 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:08:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Hong Kong Sevens Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:08:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Britdisc Just a reminder that the Hong Kong Sevens takes place in Leeds on 9th/10th October. We have 12 places in total for the tournament, of which about half have already been taken. On top of that, a few teams have said they are definitely coming and that their cheques are in the post. This means there are only a couple or more spaces left, so get your money off now or see the Mild Mannered Janitors at Eastbourne. If you're unsure about whether you team is in or not, give Arun a ring on 0113 224 9680 (home) or 0113 2255954 (work) (remember he won't be there after tomorrow tea time until Monday). Below are the Tournament details I sent out a couple of weeks ago (without the Catch 22 related trash talk because I know they can't take it). Ben Mitchell Chevron Action Flash The Mild Mannered Janitors (as seen at Worlds) would like to invite you to the second HONG KONG SEVENS. It's going to happen on the 9th and 10th of October 1999 at Lawnswood School, Leeds. THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT Come along and find out who is to be the final Yellow Jersey winner of the Outdoor Season! There are only 16 places Cost per team 60 pounds, Cheques payable to MMJ. Send to: 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Any problems call Arun (0113) 224 9680 or Gump (0113) 217 4624 or email me (b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 18:43:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19437 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:42:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19432 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:42:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA29091 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:42:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:42:20 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:49:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Size matters Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:42:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Who wants to be a TV star? Renault are filming a commercial next week, and they need one or two members of the Ultimate community. The lucky person is required to be the body double of an actor throwing a disc through a stationery van window (and presumably out the other side). That's all. For this they need you for 3 full days (24th, 28th and 29th September) and will therefore be paying you for 3 full days. I don't know much about media work, but it's bound to be a pretty handsome figure (don't sell yourself too cheap!). Certainly a worthwhile use of time for any student layabout, or someone who's "between jobs". I *assume* it's in London, but apart from that I know of no other conditions. For further details the number you want is 0171-734 7413. The agency is Academy Commercial. The guy to ask for is Ben Moulden. He said call in office hours, but no harm in trying right now. Tell him Wayne from Albatross sent you. By the way although the call came to Albatross because we're held in such high regard by the media world (though strangely not the Ultimate world), none of us can fulfil their requirements (ie the accurate throwing), so we're happy to open the floodgates to Britdisc. Good luck, and tell us all about it when you're done. Cheers Wayne Albatross & Overflow From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 21:10:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04125 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:09:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04120 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:09:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07559 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:09:27 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id VAA29000 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:09:06 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.254.1) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xma028976; Wed, 15 Sep 99 21:08:17 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BEFFBE.6EE31EC0@KEVIN>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:08:18 +0100 Message-ID: <01BEFFBE.6EE31EC0@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Fancy a job? Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:08:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA04121 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Having been BUF Youth Coordinator for 5 years now, I would really like to see someone else volunteering. It's a very rewarding job, honest! Occasionally the juniors say nice things about you (cheers Ali, the cheque's in the post). Sometimes they really let you down by choosing to play for the Purple Scum, but you know, you try and bring them up right but things just go wrong somewhere. Seriously, the job requires someone who is enthusiast, has a moderate amount of time to dedicate, preferably has access to a free photocopier, phone and postage, (but the BUF can cover these costs), and really believes that the future of Ultimate lies in getting more juniors to start playing. I've thoroughly enjoyed being youth coordinator, but in the last year, I have really struggled to find the time needed (even though it's no more than trying to run a student team). Since I currently have no job, I have to concentrate on finding employment. Should no one come forward to fill this role, and I land a decent job next week (I have a few interviews lined up), then I will gladly continue in this post and hope that I can find the time and energy to really do it justice. Applications on a postcard please, or just turn up (or tell someone who is turning up) to the BUF AGM on Friday. Kevin. PS Married life is great! Party was excellent! Thanks to everyone who came. Trying not to think about Sammy slow dancing with my mother-in-law (So, if Jennie's parents split up, and the mother marries Sammy, that would make him ... my father-in-law. AAARGHH!!!) |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | email me, and I'll tell you how. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 23:05:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14009 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:04:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14000 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:04:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from nickel.cix.co.uk (nickel.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11895 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:04:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from alhodges (5300-tele-1-cluster.53.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [194.153.22.53]) by nickel.cix.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA14716 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:03:28 +0100 (BST) X-Envelope-From: a.l.hodges@warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990915230120.006a8968@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk> X-Sender: esvmw@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:01:20 +0100 To: "'Britdisc'" From: Anthony Hodges Subject: British Open location plea In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me where in Eastbournet he tournament is actually being held. Cheers, ant From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 15 23:05:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14120 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:05:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14113 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:05:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11931 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:05:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:05:27 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA24282 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:03:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:03:33 +0100 (BST) From: J Rodgers To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Remove email Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please can you remove James Rodgers from britdisc. Thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 16 08:55:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02427 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:54:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02416 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:54:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from framestore.sohonet.co.uk (framestore1.sohonet.co.uk [193.203.80.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08801 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:54:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by framestore.sohonet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA14904 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:53:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from london.fs.local(mail.fs.local 192.168.2.150) by framestore.sohonet.co.uk via smap (V2.0) id xma014899; Thu, 16 Sep 99 08:53:15 +0100 Received: from framestore.co.uk (engpc2.fs.local [192.168.1.23]) by london.fs.local (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAAE45; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:53:14 +0100 Message-ID: <37E0A1FE.1FCC0996@framestore.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:53:34 +0100 From: "Sean Holden" Organization: framestore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ziants, Wayne" CC: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Re: Size matters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Who wants to be a TV star? > > Renault are filming a commercial next week, and they need one or two members > of the Ultimate community. The lucky person is required to be the body > double of an actor throwing a disc through a stationery van window (and > presumably out the other side). That's all. That's not quite all. The disc needs to be caught by a dog on the other side of the car!!! Sean From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 16 09:28:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06295 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:27:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06289 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:27:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from doorman1.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27080 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:27:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman1.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:28:12 +0100 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:20:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Size matters Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:20:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before this poor guy gets a million phone calls from ultimate players desperate for their 15 minutes of fame. STOP He called me yesterday and we've lined up someone to do it. By the way, it is the same company who made the Guinness 'surfer' ad so it should be a decent commercial. See you all in Eastbourne Dave p.s. Nolan, do you have a schedule yet? > -----Original Message----- > From: Ziants, Wayne [SMTP:WZiants@spencerstuart.com] > Sent: 15 September 1999 18:43 > To: 'Britdisc' > Subject: Size matters > > Who wants to be a TV star? > > Renault are filming a commercial next week, and they need one or two > members > of the Ultimate community. The lucky person is required to be the body > double of an actor throwing a disc through a stationery van window (and > presumably out the other side). That's all. For this they need you for 3 > full days (24th, 28th and 29th September) and will therefore be paying you > for 3 full days. I don't know much about media work, but it's bound to be > a > pretty handsome figure (don't sell yourself too cheap!). Certainly a > worthwhile use of time for any student layabout, or someone who's "between > jobs". I *assume* it's in London, but apart from that I know of no other > conditions. > > For further details the number you want is 0171-734 7413. The agency is > Academy Commercial. The guy to ask for is Ben Moulden. He said call in > office hours, but no harm in trying right now. Tell him Wayne from > Albatross sent you. > > By the way although the call came to Albatross because we're held in such > high regard by the media world (though strangely not the Ultimate world), > none of us can fulfil their requirements (ie the accurate throwing), so > we're happy to open the floodgates to Britdisc. > > Good luck, and tell us all about it when you're done. > > Cheers > Wayne > > Albatross & Overflow > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 16 09:29:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06471 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:28:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06459 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:28:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from web704.mail.yahoo.com (web704.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.24]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA11665 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:28:42 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19990916083553.8313.rocketmail@web704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.130.188.83] by web704.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:35:53 PDT Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:35:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Colin Smith Subject: Wild Stallyns contact? To: Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to those whom this doesn't concern. Could one of the guys from Wild Stallyns get in touch please... Colin? Rob? I've lost touch with everything for some time, and want to start playing again. Indoors? Practices? Are you going to Eastbourne Cheers Colin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 16 09:31:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07133 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:30:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07126 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12173 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C5FD@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Did Derek give Cilla a 'Moment of truth?' Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:30:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone else see the trailer for Cilla Black's new show which ran at 11.20 on Carlton last night? Disk golf in someone's back garden, anyone's gran can do it kind of stuff. Our boy Derek Robins, shameless self-publicist, not content with having got Danii Minogue to hold his disk, has obvioulsy had to move onto softer targets more his age... Did you get one in the basket Derek? hehe rt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 16 11:11:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27779 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:00:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27737 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.160.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03886 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.153]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id KAA24558 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA04787 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:59:57 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ----- 8th Annual Edinburgh Indoor Beginners Tournament ------ November 13th-14th. This tournament is speciffically designed to help YOU encourage your beginners. The tournament is for players of less than 3 months experience, no more than one experienced player on the pitch at one time. 32 teams this year, first-come-first-serve by the arrival of cheques (90 pounds per team). However, 1st teams are given preference so please send in separate cheques for each team. Send your money (early because it's filling up fast - woah, better act now - almost last minute) to: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament c/o Geoff Legg 1F2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Any questions, e-mail Geoff at g.b.legg@sms.ed.ac.uk or my self, pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk. Hope to see you all soon. Paul Eastman President RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 16 14:22:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07781 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:20:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07759 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:20:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.160.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14228 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:20:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.153]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id OAA05850 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:20:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA05051 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:20:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: warm.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:20:25 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE:Beginners Tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, It has been brought to my attention that I didn't credit Charles Hennan for his input and humor in the invitation. Sincerest Appologies. Paul RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 07:49:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17001 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:47:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16996 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08891 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA21601 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199909200647.HAA21601@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 25th September 1999 Nationals (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Comment THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Midland Qualifiers (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 08:08:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA18425 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:07:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18420 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:07:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail03-lax.pilot.net (mail-lax-3.pilot.net [205.139.40.17]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10143 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:07:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.mattel.com (unknown-48-23-144.mattel.com [204.48.23.144] (may be forged)) by mail03-lax.pilot.net with ESMTP id AAA12163 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from estwr61.eshq.mattel.com ([156.20.1.68]) by mailgw.mattel.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03065 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by estwr61.eshq.mattel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:06:40 -0700 Message-ID: <55961771ADE8D111989B00A0C94B062D4A2414@EULEI50.europa.mattel.com> From: "Ashton, Mark" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: World's cap Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:04:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Sorry to put out a person request, but I have lost my beloved BLUE worlds cap, with the world's RED symbol on it at Eastbourne. If any one inadvertently picked it up or has it could you please get in contact with me or see me at the Nationals.... Thanks for your time Mark (Red 5) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 11:04:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08093 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:02:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08081 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:02:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13408 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:02:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:00:35 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:01:34 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5B4@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Pete Connor Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:01:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could Pete Connor from Milton Keynes Open University please contact me, either here or on 01242 543299 (w) or 01452 380529 (h) Thanks Chris Hughes (Apologies to everyone else) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 12:37:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20330 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:36:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20324 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:36:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01480 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:36:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from cst280.york.ac.uk (cst280.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.105]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09494 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:35:38 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:35:38 +0100 () From: Yorkie Bar Kids To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know how to get hold of Rachel Jacobs, of Janitors, Jedi, and Disco Inferno fame? Cheers Tom /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Yorkie Bar Kids Athletic Union Goodricke College University of York York YO10 5DD socs311@york.ac.uk \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 17:02:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16540 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:01:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16534 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:01:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f241.hotmail.com [207.82.251.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03038 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:01:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 19803 invoked by uid 0); 20 Sep 1999 16:00:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990920160056.19802.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:00:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hong Kong 7's Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:00:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message to all teams attending the HK7's, the 12 places have been filled by the following Janitors - paid More Janitors - paid Jedi Catch 22 UTT Superfly - paid Phatheads Albatross - paid Slipdisc Whiplash - paid Substance Abuse - paid Mud Culture - paid If you haven't paid you need to send a cheque(payable to mild mannered janitors) for £60 to the address below by the 29/09/99 or the teams on the reserve list will be offered your place, if you have already payed relax. 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF If you want accommadation call the following number as this mail address will no longer be checked - 0113 2249680 Cheers Janitors - Arun ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 17:21:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19814 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:20:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11389 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:36:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (mailhost2.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29616 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:36:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from [194.112.55.2] (th-en137-002.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.55.2]) by mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA56126; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:36:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: BritOpen99 Results Message-Id: <000000363333020686058@daletaylor.co.uk> From: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:27:37 +0100 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: open99@daletaylor.co.uk (British Open 99, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Britdisc), EuroDisc@ira.uka.de (Eurodisc Postings) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000036333==daletaylor.co.uk==__" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000036333==daletaylor.co.uk==__ Content-Type: application/fonttable; name="fonts" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AAAACAABADAGTW9uYWNv --__==========00000000036333==daletaylor.co.uk==__ Content-Type: application/styles; name="styles" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AAsAAAAAAAsACQABAAAACQAAAAAAAAAAACYACwAJAAEBAAAJAAAAAAAAAAAAKQALAAkAAQAAAAkA AAAAAAAAAAA6AAsACQABAQAACQAAAAAAAAAAAEsACwAJAAEAAAAJAAAAAAAAAAAAmQALAAkAAQEA AAkAAAAAAAAAAACcAAsACQABAAAACQAAAAAAAAAAAgIACwAJAAEBAAAJAAAAAAAAAAACDgALAAkA AQAAAAkAAAAAAAAAAAInAAsACQABAQAACQAAAAAAAAAAAjMACwAJAAEAAAAJAAAAAAAA --__==========00000000036333==daletaylor.co.uk==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to National Champions UTI, for adding the British Open = 1999 to their list of victories. Here is the full roll of = honour/dishonour... 1 UTI 2 Catch 22 =3D3 Doughminatrix =3D3 Chevron Action Flash 5 Deep South Mentality 6 Sun Creteil, Paris 7 Fluid Druids 8 Blue Arse Flies 9 Red 10 Point Blank 11 Night Fever 12 Brussels 13 Doughboy 14 First Touch 15 Mohawk Mwnci Magic 16 Tourotrash 17 Overflow 18 Five Leggy Brunettes 19 Mild Mannered Janitors 20 Sly Dogs 21 Whiplash 22 Superfly 23 Slipdisc Fluid Druids won Spirit of the Game. Ian Pearmain was voted MVP of the Final Congratulations to Doughminatrix and Point Blank for making my seedings = look even dumber than my predictions for Bliss at Worlds. Thanks to all who attended. Details of the 2000 Open will be issued as and = when decisions have been made as to it's future location/status etc. Ultimately Nolan & Mike PS A full lost property list will be issued shortly. --------------------------------------- British Open 99 Email: open99@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: +44 (0) 1323 430700 Fax: +44 (0) 1323 430223 --------------------------------------- --__==========00000000036333==daletaylor.co.uk==__-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 20 22:47:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17650 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:46:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17641 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:46:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net ([195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22272 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:46:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 ([195.146.163.147]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23673; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:45:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004201bf03b1$f7537600$93a392c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" , , "LEICESTER ULTIMATE LISTBOT" , , , , Subject: Not the Nationals Cancelled Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:40:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Six teams interested, two pulled out last minute, one not responding. Sorry folks but its cancelled. Cheques will be returned shortly. Ben RED From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 21 10:00:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00770 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:58:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00754 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:58:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10067 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:58:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id KAA04162 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:58:37 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from paul.hoogendijk@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma004160; Tue, 21 Sep 99 10:58:37 +0200 Received: from natlab.research.philips.com (prle.natlab.research.philips.com [130.139.161.112]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with SMTP id KAA11591 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:58:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by natlab.research.philips.com; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:58:36 +0200 Message-Id: <37E748BA.56A4D7DD@philips.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:58:34 +0200 From: Paul Hoogendijk Organization: Philips Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Invitation VIP tournament 1999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk VIP Indoor Ultimate Frisbee Tournament '99 During the weekend of November 6&7, the annual Light City Flyers VIP indoor ultimate frisbee tournament will take place. The tournament will be held in Eindhoven, the Netherlands. In the previous years teams from Holland, Belgium, Germany, France and England competed for the prizes. Last year the winners were Crunch from the Netherlands (a list of results can be found at http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/histvip1998.htm). We expect again to welcome many teams from all out of Europe. There is place for 24 teams. We have made some web-pages (http://www.dse.nl/frisbee/VIP) with the latest tournament info etc. The tournament will be held at the Students Sportscentre in Eindhoven (different from last year). We will have three indoor halls at our disposal. The address is Studentensportcentrum Eindhoven, O.L.Vrouwestraat 1, Eindhoven, tel: +31-(0)40-2473232. The team-fee for participating in the tournament will be HFl 200,-. For the small amount of HFl 15,- you can sleep at the sportscentre and have breakfast. Dinner is optional. For HFl 15,- you can enjoy a meal at the mensa in Eindhoven. Please let us know if you prefer a vegetarian menu. The centre of the city however is nearby, plenty of restaurants can be found there. Saterday night there will be a party in the studentbar "AOR" with student friendly beer-prizes. The closing date for subscribing for the tournament will be October 1st, 1999. You can subscribe by paying the tournament costs and filling in the registration form attached below. But be quick, first come first serve. Last years we had to turn down teams. (Currently already 14 teams have subscribed, see the VIP web-pages) The registration forms can be send to: Light City Flyers p/a Chopinlaan 20 5653 EW Eindhoven The Netherlands or mailed to C.P.L.Woerkom@tue.nl The tournament costs can be paid at: Postbank, account nr. 1021840 Light City Flyers, Eindhoven (please note: VIP'99 and team name!) For further information, please contact: Caroline van Woerkom: C.P.L.Woerkom@tue.nl +31-(0)40-2520066 (home) +31-(0)40-2473323 (work) Registration form VIP '99 ========================= (also available via http://www.dse.nl/frisbee/VIP/form.html) Clubname: Teamname: Nationality: Number of players: Contact person 1: Name: Address: Telephone number: E-mail address: Contact person 2: Name: Address: Telephone number: E-mail address: Tournament costs: numb. of pers. p.person total Team fee: HFl. 200,- Sleeping accomodation (incl. breakfast): ... x HFl. 15,- = HFl. .... Dinner (non vegetarian): ... x HFl. 15,- = HFl. .... Dinner (vegetarian): ... x HFl. 15,- = HFl. .... ====+ Total: HFl. .... Postbank, account nr. 1021840 of Light City Flyers (please note: VIP '99 and team name) Caroline van Woerkom: C.P.L.Woerkom@tue.nl +31-(0)40-2520066 (home) +31-(0)40-2473323 (work) +--------------------------------------------+ +---------+ | Paul Hoogendijk, |/ \ | Philips Research Laboratories, / \ | Building WL 1 114, Prof. Holstlaan 4, | BE FREE, | | 5656 AA Eindhoven, The Netherlands. | | | Phone: +31 40 2743978 | BE FRISBEE! | | Fax: +31 40 2744004 \ / | mailto:Paul.Hoogendijk@philips.com |\ / +--------------------------------------------+ +---------+ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 21 10:28:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04584 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:27:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04577 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:27:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail08.prontomail.com (prontomail8.prontomail.com [209.185.149.108] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12149 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:27:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from darroch_reid (209.185.149.227) by mail08.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123); Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:22:28 -0700 From: "Possum" Message-Id: <199909210222142@darroch_reid.looksmart.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:22:14 -0800 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nationals X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA04578 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do you know who needs any players for Nationals? I'll tell you what, if they want a Possum to play/heckle, who better to ask than... Possum. Darroch 'Possum' Reid 407 Ridgacre Road Quinton Birmingham B32 1QJ 0121-422-5175(h) 0121-331-5454(w) LookSmart … or keep looking. http://www.looksmart.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 21 15:11:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10498 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:09:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10486 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:09:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16181 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:09:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 21 Sep 99 15:09:29 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 21 Sep 99 15:09:02 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:09:02 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Did Derek give Cilla a 'Moment of truth?' In-reply-to: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C5FD@baby.kbw.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <17DB89300D4@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roger Thomson wrote .. > Our boy Derek Robins, shameless self-publicist, not content with having > got Danii Minogue to hold his disk, has obvioulsy had to move onto softer > targets more his age... > > Did you get one in the basket Derek? The answer is yes, I did keep my putting together pretty well under the pressure of the shoot. The show went out on Saturday and my appearance was quite brief, but it was the biggest exposure for disc golf that we have ever had in the UK. For those who didn't see it, I was the expert who showed how it was done. The contestant, a woman from Bristol, had to hit 20 putts from 20 feet in 90 seconds to win 20,000 pounds worth of prizes for her family. Having practiced 8 hours a day for a week she achieved it quite easily. Shameless self publicist that I am, I should let you know that I am filming for Collectors Lot tomorrow. I don't know when it gets broadcast but it's daytime on Channel 4. When I know the date I will put it on my self publicity web site http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf/html/media.html Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 11:18:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16886 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:16:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16879 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:16:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26249 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:16:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:14:17 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:14:24 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5BD@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: BUF discs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:14:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All sold out. I now have no more discs (unless some one wants to buy one single solitary lonely piece of plastic and give it a good home) However we should be receiving delivery of discs in the near future, as the reorder has just taken place. I will keep you informed. If any one out there has a pile of discs to sell - now is the time to pipe up. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 11:29:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19145 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:28:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19139 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:28:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (wya-lfd125.hotmail.com [207.82.252.189]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19315 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:28:23 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 11586 invoked by uid 0); 22 Sep 1999 10:27:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990922102751.11585.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 03:27:50 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: BUF discs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 03:27:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You - A big generous hearted person with plenty of cheap discs Me - A thrifty Scotsman with a eye for a bargin See me at Nationals to strike a deal Bes* Jes* on behalf of Shooting Stars ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 12:52:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29784 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29779 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:51:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA04156 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.24.12] (root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 11Tktx-00077v-00; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:49:33 +0100 Received: from benjamcr by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 11Tktu-0001A8-00; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:49:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:49:29 +0100 (BST) From: Benjamin Crick To: "HUGHES, Chris" cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Re: BUF discs In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5BD@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well now is the time to take your very own part of mohawk culture home with you. Lovely white and shiny yellow discs can be yous for just 7 pounds. if you feel the need then Send me your requersts to bencrick@bcrick.freeserve.co.uk Ben Crick AKA "Stroke" the captain On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, HUGHES, Chris wrote: > All sold out. I now have no more discs (unless some one wants to buy one > single solitary lonely piece of plastic and give it a good home) > > However we should be receiving delivery of discs in the near future, as the > reorder has just taken place. I will keep you informed. > > If any one out there has a pile of discs to sell - now is the time to pipe > up. > > Chris > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 14:50:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14612 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:48:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14604 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:48:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15433 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:48:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11Tml3-0006Ue-00; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:48:29 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 22 Sep 99 14:48:30 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 22 Sep 99 14:48:23 +0100 From: "pete" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:48:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Student Issues X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: <103A00EC72F9@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA14605 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, This is a message for ALL the student teams out there. I appreciate it is very long winded, but if I am going to make a good job of being student coordinator then I am going to need your support and comments. Please can you read tis carefully and reply as soon as possible where I have asked for comments or information. First of all, I need the new contact details of all students teams for the forthcoming academic year, to include the name of the team contact, an address, e-mail, and definitely a telephone number. Second I need bids for the regional indoor qualifiers, so far the venues for the South West in Cardiff (Dave Barnard) and the Midlands in Sheffield (Si Weeks), have been confirmed. However no bids have been received form the South East, (come on Skunks, Mohawks you know it makes sense). For the Scotland and the North region I know there were a number of interested parties at the student meeting at Bakewell, but I have heard nothing since. We are looking for at least two pitches to be booked for the entire weekend of either the 20/21 or 27/28 November 1999. Could those teams still interested in hosting it send a bid including size of sportshall, accommodation details, party arrangements and predicted cost per team (don't forget to account for cost of trophies, and BUF tax of £8 per team). We also need a venue for student indoor finals. This will be the 26th/27th Februrary 2000 and will be attended by by the top four teams from each region. The closing date for all these bids is the 1st of October (the friday after Nationals). Third, we need to get a move on with the regional teams, so the coaches in each region need to make themselves known and arrange a date for trials. I propose that squad sessions are held on either the 9/10, 16/17 or 23/24 of October 1999 with the Regional Team Tournament pencilled in for 6/7 November 1999. A venue for this is presently being sorted somewhere in the North of the Midlands. If there are going to be five regions then I think we should have a round robin so that everyone gets to play everyone. As far I can see there are two possibilities. We do it for one day only, so that you don't use up your whole weekend OR we start at about midday on the Saturday and finish about 2pm on the Sunday, so that the teams don't have to set off too early or get home too late. We can then have a bit of social on the Saturday night and make the long trip seem more worth while. Please can I have comments from people on what you think is the best way forward. This is as much as I know about the coaches/selectors for each region at present, please let me know if you volunteered, or you want to. South West and Wales: Dave Barnard South East: Midlands: Joe Mcgrath, Ben Ravillious North: Scotland: Dave Grayson Cheers for getting this far, Pete (your new National Student Co-ordinater) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 14:59:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16165 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:58:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16150 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:58:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (mail.ntli.net [194.168.5.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16204 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:58:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntli-dev28 ([10.117.5.250]) by mail1-gui.private.ntli.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 549-35819U10000L10000S0) with SMTP id AAA29718; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:58:02 +0100 Message-ID: <01ed01bf0502$938f78b0$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> From: "Tim Blair" To: , , "Pete Coy" Subject: Re: [student-ultimate] Student Issues Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:58:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Pete, > I propose that squad sessions are held on either > the 9/10, 16/17 or 23/24 of October 1999 with the Regional > Team Tournament pencilled in for 6/7 November 1999. If we are attempting to get the strongest teams possible for a real hard-fought tournament, shouldn't the regional tournament be further down the line, so to speak? If I were playing, then I'd like more than one practice with everyone before playing in a tournament. Secondly, surely the first meeting is simply a selection process, not a practice. Therefore, it seems that one weekend we're selecting a squad from players many people may not have seen before, let alone played with, then throwing them into a tournament together. I suggest that the actual regional tournament be moved back to give teams a chance to practice together. After all, you can't expect people from Oxford to travel to Cardiff twice a month for a SW&W practice, so more time needs to be given... Just my opinion... Tim. -- Tim Blair Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ email club@mwncisee.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 15:00:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16541 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:00:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16528 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:00:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04585 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:00:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11TmwD-000FQ1-0K; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:00:02 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:54:33 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4805@lonsex02bkp> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'BritDisc'" Cc: "'adam harras'" Subject: RE: BUF discs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:52:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA16529 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Green Cap, AKA, Adam 'Old Man' Harras has asked me to post this, I think he's got arthritis or something and has to keep his typing to a minimum. I have a load of bomb disks for sale @ £7.00 each or £65.00 for ten if anyone is interested mail me on adam@um.u-net.com or tel: 01865 326616 Adam (under the influence) For anyone who wants to see the design take a look at http://www.um.u-net.com/UTIWEB Col UTI -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris [SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:14 AM To: 'BritDisc' Subject: BUF discs All sold out. I now have no more discs (unless some one wants to buy one single solitary lonely piece of plastic and give it a good home) However we should be receiving delivery of discs in the near future, as the reorder has just taken place. I will keep you informed. If any one out there has a pile of discs to sell - now is the time to pipe up. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 16:32:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29532 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:30:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29527 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:30:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f250.hotmail.com [207.82.251.141]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25385 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:30:55 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 89581 invoked by uid 0); 22 Sep 1999 15:30:24 -0000 Message-ID: <19990922153024.89580.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.211.0.176 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:30:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.211.0.176] From: "jak golden" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: re:Discs Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:30:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have some Flight Plastic (chevron action flash) discs available £7 each £6 each for 10 or more give me a ring on 01743 270262 home 01743 761745 work or mail me at jgoolden@hotmail.com cheers Jack chevy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 17:17:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05133 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:16:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05113 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:16:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15172 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:16:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:13:47 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:13:15 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5C4@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Women's Nationals Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:13:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ladies; Women's Nationals will be taking place this year on the 30 / 31 October. Details will be announced once venue and times have been confirmed. Before you all start emailing me asking what the format and rules are - at this stage I don't know. I will confer with Tara and the other senior female players, and then understand what is going on. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 22 17:31:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07214 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:30:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07209 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:30:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16679 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:30:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:27:46 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:26:48 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5C5@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: GB Ultimate Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:26:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All those interested; If you would like to be involved, or even just considered, with GB Ultimate (in any division) either as a player or non-playing role, then there is a practice on the weekend of 16th / 17th October. The practice will be held centrally, on ONE day (probably Sunday to avoid football), and is open to everyone, and all five divisions (Open, Women's, Master, Mixed, Juniors). The details of the times and location will be announced once they can be confirmed. Anyone who was at the AGM will know that decisions will be made at the practice on how GB ultimate is to be run, and who the people who will fill those roles will be. This means that if you have any plans or proposals then they need to be with me by writing (email is best) by Monday the 10th so that I can compile and distribute them at the practice (or possibly before). I would also ask people to consider what roles if any they may be interested in and how much responsibility they would be prepared to have. I am aware that this is difficult since we do not know what the roles are yet, but ask yourself questions such as 'would I be prepared to be involved in selection of players?', 'would I be prepared to be a regional practice coordinator?', 'would I be prepared to be a non-playing captain?'. If you are aware of how much, and what sort of responsibility you are prepared to take, on then this would make the selection of people to fulfill any role easier. Please pass this on to any member of your team that is interested in GB but is not on Britdisc. Once the venue is confirmed can people please ensure that any interested Junior is able to get lifts if necessary. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 03:37:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19707 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 03:36:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA19701 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 03:36:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06533 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 03:36:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199909230236.DAA06533@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:37:02 +0100 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc Subject: juniors Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:37:00 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey you teachers out there. (I know there are loads of you. ) and any Juniors for that matter. Have you got a few or even loads of Juniors (under 19) who have no-one to play? I need to find some opposition for all these juniors who are playing in Grantham. So I'd like to run a One day tourny very soon for juniors who have just started playing. I could run it on a weekend or a weekday. If anything is going to keep these juniors playing it will be competition. Please email me if you like the sound of this. I need to know if a tourny is viable. pu P.S. If anyone has Kevin Lowe's phone number. I'd Like it. thanks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 09:03:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06202 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:01:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06193 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:01:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14504 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:01:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11U3oy-0009iz-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:01:40 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:49:01 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: GB Ultimate Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:48:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It may not be a big deal, and I don't want to offend Chris at this moment (as opposed to other moments :) - but why exactly is Chris dealing with this? It doesn't seem to fall anywhere near his role? It also seems to be a funny week for the DoC to be worrying about something other than Nationals. If this is just a practicality thing - then fine. If not - then I'm a bit concerned. I'm the first to admit, however, that my deliberate absence from AGM may somewhat dilute my rights to complain!!! :( Si - 22 > -----Original Message----- > From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > Sent: 22 September 1999 17:27 > To: 'BritDisc' > Subject: GB Ultimate > > > All those interested; > > If you would like to be involved, or even just considered, > with GB Ultimate > (in any division) either as a player or non-playing role, > then there is a > practice on the weekend of 16th / 17th October. The practice > will be held > centrally, on ONE day (probably Sunday to avoid football), > and is open to > everyone, and all five divisions (Open, Women's, Master, > Mixed, Juniors). > The details of the times and location will be announced once > they can be > confirmed. > > Anyone who was at the AGM will know that decisions will be made at the > practice on how GB ultimate is to be run, and who the people > who will fill > those roles will be. This means that if you have any plans or > proposals then > they need to be with me by writing (email is best) by Monday > the 10th so > that I can compile and distribute them at the practice (or > possibly before). > I would also ask people to consider what roles if any they > may be interested > in and how much responsibility they would be prepared to > have. I am aware > that this is difficult since we do not know what the roles > are yet, but ask > yourself questions such as 'would I be prepared to be > involved in selection > of players?', 'would I be prepared to be a regional practice > coordinator?', > 'would I be prepared to be a non-playing captain?'. If you > are aware of how > much, and what sort of responsibility you are prepared to > take, on then this > would make the selection of people to fulfill any role easier. > > Please pass this on to any member of your team that is > interested in GB but > is not on Britdisc. Once the venue is confirmed can people > please ensure > that any interested Junior is able to get lifts if necessary. > > Chris > DoC > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 09:14:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07813 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07807 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:13:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18788 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:13:25 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:13:24 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C637@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: GB Ultimate Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:13:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On that note, could someone please relay to Britdisc what was said/passed at the Eastbourne AGM, especially with respect to the GB team next year? I heard a rumour that a motion was passed, but then was swamped by a whole load of spin from other lobbying interest groups, modified and in the end nothing really was decided. (surprise surprise). Could the secretary please relay the minutes? thanks PieBoy. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Hill [mailto:simon.hill@actix.com] > Sent: 23 September 1999 08:49 > To: 'BritDisc' > Subject: RE: GB Ultimate > > > It may not be a big deal, and I don't want to offend Chris at > this moment > (as opposed to other moments :) - > > but why exactly is Chris dealing with this? It doesn't seem to fall > anywhere near his role? It also seems to be a funny week for > the DoC to be > worrying about something other than Nationals. > > If this is just a practicality thing - then fine. If not - > then I'm a bit > concerned. > > I'm the first to admit, however, that my deliberate absence > from AGM may > somewhat dilute my rights to complain!!! :( > > Si - 22 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > > Sent: 22 September 1999 17:27 > > To: 'BritDisc' > > Subject: GB Ultimate > > > > > > All those interested; > > > > If you would like to be involved, or even just considered, > > with GB Ultimate > > (in any division) either as a player or non-playing role, > > then there is a > > practice on the weekend of 16th / 17th October. The practice > > will be held > > centrally, on ONE day (probably Sunday to avoid football), > > and is open to > > everyone, and all five divisions (Open, Women's, Master, > > Mixed, Juniors). > > The details of the times and location will be announced once > > they can be > > confirmed. > > > > Anyone who was at the AGM will know that decisions will be > made at the > > practice on how GB ultimate is to be run, and who the people > > who will fill > > those roles will be. This means that if you have any plans or > > proposals then > > they need to be with me by writing (email is best) by Monday > > the 10th so > > that I can compile and distribute them at the practice (or > > possibly before). > > I would also ask people to consider what roles if any they > > may be interested > > in and how much responsibility they would be prepared to > > have. I am aware > > that this is difficult since we do not know what the roles > > are yet, but ask > > yourself questions such as 'would I be prepared to be > > involved in selection > > of players?', 'would I be prepared to be a regional practice > > coordinator?', > > 'would I be prepared to be a non-playing captain?'. If you > > are aware of how > > much, and what sort of responsibility you are prepared to > > take, on then this > > would make the selection of people to fulfill any role easier. > > > > Please pass this on to any member of your team that is > > interested in GB but > > is not on Britdisc. Once the venue is confirmed can people > > please ensure > > that any interested Junior is able to get lifts if necessary. > > > > Chris > > DoC > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 17:55:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20115 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:53:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20090 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:53:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from doorman1.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21316 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:53:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman1.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:54:36 +0100 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Lift to Nationals from London? Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:46:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lift needed to Leicester. 2 people. Saturday morning. >From North London or any tube station. Usual deal with petrol money etc. Reply or call Dave on 0171 893 4174 or Alex on 0171 667 8665 sometime tomorrow. Thanks Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 23:38:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19133 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:37:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19128 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:37:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27301 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:37:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11UHUD-000GcX-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:37:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:35:48 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: GB Ultimate References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Simon Hill writes >but why exactly is Chris dealing with this? It doesn't seem to fall >anywhere near his role? It also seems to be a funny week for the DoC to be >worrying about something other than Nationals. Si, Roger, and others... Chris is dealing with this 'cos a) when it all went pear-shaped at the AGM discussion he volunteered to post such a message and collate responses b) he has the loudest voice c) he has an interest in becoming GB CoEd (sorry, "Mixed") Manager [with advance apologies for either stepping on other's toes, or being completely wrong!] As far as my memory and understanding goes (hopefully the people involved will correct me if/when I'm wrong), the story thus far is: The AGM was looking for candidates to fill the roles of the "traditional" GB Managers; Aram Flores suggested that the "traditional" method hasn't quite managed to achieve the results it ought; [to much agreement, but little identification of reasons...] Aram suggested that there ought to be an alternative method for the development, training and selection of the GB teams. Aram's suggestion was that there should be regular (twice-weekly?) regional training sessions, to work on fitness, skills and drills and familiarity/bonding between players no matter their potential division, and should be a mixture of players from ALL divisions. The current regular (once/twice monthly) GB sessions would continue, but in ONE venue - all the regional players would gather together and the cross-regional integration and bonding would occur - there would also be the movement of players between the various divisions to investigate how the best squads (across all divisions) could be achieved. The organisational structure? A "GB coach" to write and implement the playbook to be used by all divisions and regional sessions. (Preferably) One male, and one female co-ordinator to assist the "GB coach" (whether this is pyramidal or committee is unclear, and the point of several arguments) in keeping tabs on players and their performances, and experimenting with the distribution of players between divisions. The theory is that maximum strength can therefore be developed in all divisions, and that the core of players within each division would select, from their own number, captain(s) that would later have more responsibility for the selection of the actual team. (I'm assuming!) Organisation and Coaching at regional sessions would be undertaken by "respected and experienced" players that liase inter- Regionally and with the "GB coach". The main arguments against this model were: (proven) successful management/coaching structures are pyramidal; that the 2 (male and female) co-ordinators should be replaced by divisional co-ordinators; that there was a risk of using the Mixed and Masters divisions as dumping grounds (or merely understrength) by developing potential "cusp" players and poaching them for the Open/Womens divisions; that the Regionalisation idea might/would have an adverse effect on the non-London regional players (due to the higher concentration of ultimate players, and therefore the higher likelihood of potential GB players in that area) training and selection prospects; that the lack of "defined squad" until "too late" would hinder the TEAM development of any particular divisional team; that the style of play of each division have quite different properties, and thus require different attitudes and training methods. The expected/potential "cross-divisional" movements will not help in the training. And thus, no significant decisions were reached... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 23 23:41:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19607 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:40:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19602 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:40:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27459 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:40:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-047.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.177]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA04167 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:43:51 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002b01bf0615$5aefad40$bba392c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Email Down & AGM Minutes Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:45:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, For those of you expecting replies to emails addressed to buf@ultimateweb.co.uk or red@ultimateweb.co.uk - sorry but these accounts are currently not working so I haven't received anything for the past two days. This account is unaffected. For those of you expecting minutes for the BUF AGM - sorry but I'm a little tied up with a certain tournament I'm running! Hope to have something for you next week. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 09:19:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01114 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:17:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01109 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:17:43 +0100 (BST) From: Gussvictor@aol.com Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19099 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:17:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from Gussvictor@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 8WAB0Mh_lR (3966) for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 04:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9c29eabe.251c8d83@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 04:17:07 EDT Subject: Pickup at Regent's Park To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For anyone in London who is not attending nationals, people are still planning to play pickup at Regent's Park on Saturday at 2 p.m. Please come on out. See some of you out on the fields. Vic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 09:20:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01548 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:20:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01542 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:20:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19408 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:20:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-027.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.157]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14638 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:23:29 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003801bf0666$570d8d40$9da392c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Nationals: Times Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:23:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Here are the game times for the nationals. IMPORTANT NOTICE: The City Council have imposed fairly draconian regulations on where players may park their cars. Can I therefore ask everyone NOT TO PARK YOUR CARS ANYWHERE ON THE PARK OTHER THAN WHERE INSTRUCTED. The park gates will be locked at 9:30am - if you are arriving later than this then either come and find someone to let you in at the marquee or phone me. Thanks Ben (Contactable on 0403 460866) ======================================== 9am Captains Meeting All Teams: First Games 9:30am Seedings 1 UTI 9 Headrush 2 Catch 22 10 First Touch 3 Chevron AF 11 Strange Blue 4 Doughboy 12 Nightfever 5 Red 13 Phat 'Eds 6 SOUP 14 Sharks 7 Fluid Druids 15 Wyld Stallyns 8 BAF 16 MMMagic Pool A Pool B Pool C Pool D 1 2 9 10 3 4 11 12 6 5 14 13 8 7 16 15 Saturday 09:30 A1 v A3, A2 v A4, B1 v B3, B2 v B4,C1 v C3, C2 v C4, D1 v D3, D2 v D4 11:45 A1 v A2, A3 v A4, C1 v C2, C3 v C4 13:45 B1 v B4, B2 v B3, D1 v D4, D2 v D3 16:00 A1 v A4, A2 v A3, B1 v B2, B3 v B4, C1 v C4, C2 v C3, D1 v D2, D3 v D4 Sunday 09:45 1 v 4, 2 v 3, 5 v 8, 6 v 7, 9 v 12, 10 v 11, 13 v 16, 14 v 15 12:45 3 v 4, 5 v 6, 7 v 8, 9 v 10, 11 v 12, 13 v 14, 15 v 16 14:15 1 v 2 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 09:57:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06050 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:55:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06042 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:55:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from utsire.cherwell.com ([193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27654 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:55:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.233]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:55:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bf066a$648f0da0$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: <003801bf0666$570d8d40$9da392c3@pii266> Subject: Re: Nationals info Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:54:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk is there any information on the web containing directions to the pitches? I know of some poeple who want to come and watch, but I have no idea where they are being held. Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 10:26:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10346 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:25:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10334 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:25:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24011 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:25:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from couplehood.demon.co.uk ([212.229.115.75]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11URZG-000N9a-0K; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:23:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:45:12 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com From: Adeline and Keen Reply-To: fonseka-koon@couplehood.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: [student-ultimate] Student Issues In-Reply-To: <01ed01bf0502$938f78b0$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all Pardon my ignorance, but is there any reason why London cannot field its own regional student team? It would round the number of teams up to 6 (which surely is a good thing) and there MUST be enough Ulty players in London alone to count as a region, mustn't there? If it is a matter of finding someone to organize it, then I won't mind taking on the job, if Jolyon Thomspon and Chris 'the youngest Druid' step up and give me a hand with the selection and practices. Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers and First Touch From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 12:16:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25339 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25329 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01799 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.4]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11UTJk-000055-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:08 +0100 Received: from wolf0232 (helo=localhost) by sable.ox.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11UTJk-0000ve-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:08 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:15:08 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Sassone Reply-To: Robert Sassone To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift FROM Nationals on Saturday evening Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone returning to the Oxford area after Saturday's games who would be willing to give me a lift, perhaps returning to Leicester on Sunday morning? Rob (Sharks) robert.sassone@wolfson.ox.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 12:38:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28498 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:37:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28486 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:37:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from c2h5oh.bass.com (c2h5oh.bass.com [152.134.45.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13781 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:36:30 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com BY c2h5oh.bass.com ; Fri Sep 24 12:35:40 1999 +0100 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:34:45 +0100 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E62B67A@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: FW: Nationals: Directions Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:35:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here are the directions to the Nationals again. Ruth RED > -----Original Message----- > From: Leicester Ultimate Club [SMTP:red@ultimateweb.co.uk] > Sent: 13 September 1999 20:47 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Nationals: Directions > Directions and Info about the Nationals should be hitting the top 16 > doormats on Tuesday morning. As requested, I have stuck these on the web > also:- > > http://homepages.webleicester.co.uk/bravil/Leicester.doc > > This is a rather large (2mb) Word 97 doc so I have attached the raw text > below and put the map alone on the web at: > > http://homepages.webleicester.co.uk/bravil/leicestermap.gif > > I have not included any schedule details yet (still to be finalised with > Chris Hughes) but you can assume a 9am captains meeting and a 9:30am > start. > Full schedule to follow. > > There are still places available for the C Division 'Not the Nationals' > which will be limited to 8 teams max. Contact me ASAP if you are > interested. > > Hassle or pay me at Eastbourne if you like. > > Ben > > ===================================== > > Dear Team Contact, > > 1999 BUF National Outdoor Finals > Victoria Park, Leicester 25/26 September > > Congratulations on qualifying in the top sixteen in the UK. It is assumed > that you wish to take part in the tournament so there is no official > deadline for entries but in order that competition schedule can be > prepared > in time can you please forward your entry fee to arrive no later than > Saturday 18th September. > > > About the Tournament...... > > Format > The top sixteen will play in two separate divisions of eight with no > cross-over between divisions as per the Tour. Round robin in pools of four > on the Saturday will be followed on Sunday by semi-finals and finals to > determine placing. There will be no quarter-finals as these games will > already have been played on the Saturday within the pool. There will also > be > a third division for teams who want a cheap tournament with the chance to > watch the big games on the Sunday (i.e. to provide some spectators!) > > Venue > We have secured the cricket area on Victoria Park which promise far > superior > quality pitches than the last tournament at this venue. It should also be > noted that park has had all summer to recover from the previous football > season so it should be in great condition. There will be eight pitches for > the top two divisions so the games can be spaced evenly with no teams > having > to play back-to-back games. > > Facilities > Showers, marquee, cones, water, scoreboards as normal. Car parking on the > coach drive along the side of the park. Physios and First-aiders from the > Academy of Sports Therapy. Public address system to make sure everyone > knows > where they are playing and what results have come in. A runner for each of > the three divisions to make sure everything is running smoothly. > > Accommodation > We have tried to provide a range of options for differing wallet sizes. > Please see the attached accommodation sheet for details. > > Entertainment > Many of you will remember the legendary party when P.J. Baker and the > Leicester All-stars performed at 'The Shed' nightclub. Well we're back at > The Shed again with FREE ENTRY BEFORE 10PM to see the recently signed > Ainsley Lister Band (rock/blues) plus support from Vigorous (rock covers) > plus a Sixties Disco in the lower room of the club. > > Publicity > In Leicester we pride ourselves on the level of publicity we attract and > if > all goes to plan this tournament will be no exception. Already covered in > the Leicester Link magazine (reaching every household in the city) and the > Leicester Mercury, we are making a concerted effort to get the event > noticed. Look out for more radio and newspaper articles nearer the time. > Who > knows, there may even be some spectators! > > Money > As I mentioned above, I would appreciate full payment by the weekend of > the > British Open at Eastbourne. > > Cheque for £100 > Payable to 'Red Ultimate Club' > > To > > Leicester Ultimate Club > PO Box 1075 > Leicester > LE2 1YQ > > > Look forward to seeing you all. > > Regards, > > > Ben Ravilious > Tournament Director > > > Directions & Parking > We have available the coach drive along the western edge of Victoria Park. > You will be met at the park gates by one of us and directed to a parking > space. Please note we will be locking the park gates once the tournament > has > begun. If you arrive late phone Ben on 0403 460866 to be let in. We > strongly > recommend you do not leave vehicles near the park overnight. > > NB: YOU ARE FORBIDDEN TO DRIVE OR PARK ANYWHERE ON VICTORIA PARK OTHER > THAN > THE COACH DRIVE > > FROM M1 (SOUTH) JUNCTION 21/M69 (NORTH END). > Follow A563 OUTER RING LEICESTER SOUTH/EAST for four miles to lights at > junction with A50 NORTHAMPTON road. Turn LEFT, signposted A50 CITY CENTRE, > and follow the Welford Road for 1.4 miles to junction with University > Road. > In detail note following sequence along Welford Road: two sets of lights; > dual-carriageway, with shops and filling stations; traffic lights, > followed > by playing fields on right. Then turn RIGHT at next lights into University > Road. Go past the University Campus and turn RIGHT up Regent Road and the > park gates are on the corner at the top of the hill > FROM M1 (NORTH) JUNCTION 22/A50 BURTON. > At busy times drivers are strongly advised to follow the M1 Junction 21 > (see > above). Otherwise, follow A50 LEICESTER signs along dual-carriageway > towards > city centre. Near centre A50 signs now indicate NORTHAMPTON. Follow A50 > NORTHAMPTON signs through one-way system. When A50 becomes a two-way road > again, follow it uphill across railway and past cemetery on left. Turn > LEFT > at next lights into University Road. Past the University Campus turn RIGHT > up Regent Road and the park gates are on the corner at the top of the > hill. > FROM A6 LOUGHBOROUGH. > Entry to Leicester is signalled by short dual-carriageway, `City of > Leicester' sign, and large roundabout. Take third exit into narrow 30mph > road signposted City Centre A6. Keep straight on for 1 mile until road > merges at lights with the A46 NEWARK road, which now becomes a > dual-carriageway. NOW read next Route `From A46 Newark'. > FROM A46 NEWARK. > Follow CITY CENTRE signs along dual-carriageway, flanked by many shops, > and > over the first flyover. Then turn LEFT at the second flyover, onto Central > Ring Road dual-carriageway. Keep straight on at next roundabout, then > follow > A6 MARKET HARBOROUGH signs through six sets of lights. Continue to follow > A6 > signs, past Railway Station on left and then turn right at next lights > into > University Road. Take the first LEFT - Regent Road - and the park gates > are > on the corner at the top of the hill. > FROM A47 PETERBOROUGH. > Entry to Leicester is signalled by long descent, followed by `City of > Leicester' sign, ascent, and 30 mph restriction. Now turn LEFT into > Spencefield Lane. Continue for 2.9 miles along this road. In detail note > sequence: shops; golf course on left; traffic lights; descent; older > shops; > traffic lights. Road meets London Road (A6) at next lights. Continue > straight ACROSS A6 into Granville Road. The park gates are on the corner > at > the end of Granville Road. > FROM A6 MARKET HARBOROUGH. > Follow A6 to junction with Granville Road. In detail note sequence: > dual-carriageway starts at entry to Leicester, ends at 30 mph restriction; > traffic lights; roundabout followed by park on left. Then filter LEFT at > next lights into Granville Road. The park gates are on the corner at the > end > of Granville Road. > FROM A50 NORTHAMPTON. > Follow A50 to junction with University Road. In detail note sequence: > start > of first dual-carriageway; end of dual-carriageway; intersection with > Outer > Ring Road at lights; two more sets of lights; dual-carriageway again, with > shops and filling stations; traffic lights, followed by playing fields on > right. Then turn RIGHT at next lights into University Road. Go past the > University Campus and turn RIGHT up Regent Road and the park gates are on > the corner at the top of the hill > Leicester Accommodation > Not an exhaustive list but some reasonable prices. Postcodes LE1 & LE2 are > both near Victoria Park. > > The Chase Hotel and Leisure Complex will give a special reduced rate if > you > tell them you're at the Frisbee Championships. Shotgun used them a couple > of > years ago and managed to get a packed lunch in the deal! Phone 0116 > 2702323 > for bookings. > > If you're looking for something really cheap try the International Youth > Hostel which is not far from the tournament. See enclosed leaflet for > details. Phone 0116 2551554 for bookings > Failing that there is plenty of floor space in Red and Jester households. > Contact Duncan McIntosh on 0116 2530954 or mcintosh_duncan@hotmail.com > > The Charnwood Hotel, Bar and Restaurant, 48 Leicester Road, Narborough, > Leicester, LE9 5DF > Phone: +44 (0)116 286 2218, Fax: +44 (0)116 275 0119 > Single from: £31.95 > Double from: £47.90 > > Burlington Hotel, 3 Elmfield Avenue, Leicester, LE2 1RB > Phone: +44 (0)116 270 5112, Fax: +44 (0)116 270 4207 > Single from: £32.00 > Double from: £46.00 > > Regency Hotel, 360 London Road, Leicester, LE2 2PL > Phone: +44 (0)116 270 9634, Fax: +44 (0)116 270 1375 > Single from: £35.00 > Double from: £54.00 > > The Old Tudor Rectory Hotel, Main Street, Glenfield, Leicester, LE3 8DG > Phone: +44 (0)116 291 5678, Fax: +44 (0)116 291 1416 > Single from: £38.00 > Double from: £42.40 > > Westerby House, 161 Uppingham Road, Leicester, LE5 4BP > Phone: +44 (0)116 276 3906 > Single: £17.00 > Double: £26.00 > > Cumbria Guest House, 16 Westcotes Drive, Leicester, LE3 0QR > Phone: +44 (0)116 254 8459 > Single from: £16.00 > Double from: £26.00 > > Scotia Hotel, 10 Westcotes Drive, Leicester, LE3 0QR > Phone: +44 (0)116 254 9200, Fax: +44 (0)116 254 9200 > Single from: £22.00 > Double from: £39.00 > > Spindle Lodge Hotel, 2 West Walk, Leicester, LE1 7NA > Phone: +44 (0)116 233 8801, Fax: +44 (0)116 233 8804 > Single from: £27.50 > Double from: £46.00 > > Richard's Students and Backpackers Lodge, 157 Wanlip Lane, Birstall, near > Leicester, LE4 4GL > Phone: +44 (0)116 267 3107 > Single from: £8.50 > > More available from Leicester Tourist Office on 0116 2998888 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 15:39:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19957 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:37:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19949 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:37:33 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:40:08 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Coventry/L-Spa area? lift to Leicester? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All I know I've left it a bit late, but is anyone in the Coventry / Leamington Spa area travelling across to Leicester tomorrow morning for Nationals? If so, do you have space for another, ONE WAY? [I have a return lift organised] Please call me on: 01203 523 880 [W - before 4:30pm today] 01926 864 276 [H] Many thanks Sam Neilson From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 24 16:20:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25445 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:18:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25440 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:18:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f8.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA17848 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:18:38 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 9755 invoked by uid 0); 24 Sep 1999 15:18:07 -0000 Message-ID: <19990924151807.9754.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.67.131.93 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:18:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.67.131.93] From: "Adam Milner" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: lost property Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:18:06 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, Did anyone pick up a white Canadian Cynics top at Eastbourne. I seem to have misplaced it. If so I'll be at nationals. cheers Adam Soup a_milner@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Sep 26 18:23:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10273 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:21:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10266 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:21:05 +0100 (BST) From: bruce@pointblank.co.uk Received: from www2.funmail.co.uk ([193.117.244.182]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23890 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:21:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 31670 invoked by uid 504); 26 Sep 1999 17:13:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO www2.funmail.co.uk) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Sep 1999 17:13:18 -0000 Message-ID: <137692568.938365998237.JavaMail.root@localhost> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:13:18 +0000 (GMT) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Substance Abuse & Todd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="137694154.938365998182.JavaMail.root@www2.funmail.co.uk" X-Funmail-UID: 268015 X-Senders-IP: 212.49.238.72 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --137694154.938365998182.JavaMail.root@www2.funmail.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to bug britdisc with this.... Todd, mail me back re HK7's cos I changed mail addresses Bruce ---------------------------------------------------------- "like Hotmail but faster and a lot better" Carol Vorderman, The Mirror, writing about http://www.funmail.co.uk --137694154.938365998182.JavaMail.root@www2.funmail.co.uk-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Sep 26 21:20:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21388 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:18:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21383 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:18:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1.webleicester.net (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06167 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:18:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-042.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.172]) by mail-gw1.webleicester.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25416 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:21:02 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000d01bf085c$fa78d6e0$aca392c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Nationals Results Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:23:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone who helped out. Ben RED 1 UTI 2 Chevron Action Flash 3=Doughboy (SOTG) 4 Catch (declined 3/4 play-off) 5 Blue Arse Flies 6 Druids 7 Red 8 SOUP 9 First Touch (SOTG) 10 Headrush 11 Nightfever 12 Strange Blue 13 Phat 'Eds 14 Sharks 15 Wyld Stallyns 16 Mohawk Mwnci Magic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 07:48:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA06845 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06840 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22595 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA10001 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199909270647.HAA10001@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 16th October 1999 GB practice (1 day) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Open to all players and non players interested in being involved in GB ultimate in any of the five divisions (Open, Women's, Mixed, Masters, Juniors). Venue and times to be arranged - 16 or 17 of October. Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Coy Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 09:33:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16006 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:32:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15994 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:32:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01450 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:32:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11VWCk-0003cO-0K; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:32:14 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:29:21 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: "britdisc (E-mail)" Cc: "Catch22 (E-mail)" Subject: Catch 22 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:29:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before you hear it from someone else! Catch 22 has disbanded. Virtually everyone in the team felt it was time for a change. No new team has been formed at this stage. As I understand it, none of the individuals are going to stop playing ultimate... Thanks to everyone who ever played for the 22. I had a brilliant time - that was amazing. And thanks also to the teams with whom we had so many titanic (and not so titanic) struggles, esp: Chevron AF, Violently Happy, Stan, UTI, and Shotgun. (Hope I didn't forget anyone.) Si From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 10:23:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24236 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:22:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24231 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:22:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07639 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:22:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 27 Sep 99 10:22:29 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 27 Sep 99 10:22:14 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:22:08 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Early days of Frisbee and Ultimate X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <208F4506CCB@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, I just received the following e-mail from Jeremy Way. I don't know how many people on the group have been playing more than 20 years but anyone who is interested in the history of disc sports in Britain will want to note the e-mail address. One observation: - the club at Warwick was actually started by Richard Hicks in 1976 and he works at the Uni now. Derek Robins (Playing since '73, competing since '77) <<<<<<<<< Jeremy Way writes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Way back in the 70's I was the director of the UK Frisbee Association and brought Ultimate Frisbee into the UK. I am trying to reach anyone from that time. It was my brother Nick who started the Warwick Frisbee Club. I have loads of photos and records from the first ever UK Frisbee Championship and the first ever UK Ultimate tournament - help and Chelsea Football Club. If there is anyone out there interested in communicating I would be pleased to hear from you. Jeremy Way jeremyway@excite.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 11:23:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04220 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:22:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04215 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:22:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from exch-student.livjm.ac.uk (exch-student.livjm.ac.uk [150.204.254.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05013 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:22:31 +0100 (BST) Received: by exch-student.livjm.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: <401AF9B71474D3118E1800062B00055A5C067A@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> From: Chewins John To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Chris Richardson Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:21:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for using Britdisc for personal stuff! Chris, can you get in contact with me about arranging the practice for the Northern student region. I have been in touch with the Fish and Jedi (of course). I have e-mailed Fingers but got no response. I am going to start trying to get in touch with the other northern student teams but i need to sort out a date to do it. I'm thinking of the 23rd or 30th october, and probably holding it at Weetwood because the pitch is permanent. E mail me ASAP Cheers Chewy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 11:48:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08910 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:46:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08888 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:46:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail01-lax.pilot.net (mail-lax-1.pilot.net [205.139.40.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07613 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:46:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.irf.com (unknown-23-167.pilot.net.23.48.204.in-addr.arpa [204.48.23.167] (may be forged)) by mail01-lax.pilot.net with ESMTP id DAA15500 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irf.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.irf.com with SMTP id DAA06226 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SMTPDMN-Message_Server by irf.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:45:29 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 03:39:32 -0700 From: Caroline Zimba To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hello, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, I need help. I play with the Brunel Falcons, but I am on placement for six months in surrey. I tried getting in touch with 4 Non Blondes but the e-mail address was wrong. Calling anyone near me, Oxted, Surrey. I would like to play in a team near me. Looking forward to hearing from my saviour! Thanks Caroline. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 12:00:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11044 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:59:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11035 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19368 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:59:20 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA04318 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:51:56 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:51:56 +0100 Message-Id: <004601bf08d7$54b06360$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Cc: "Merrick Cardew" Subject: Blue Arse Flies Expansion Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:59:10 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Blue Arse Flies are currently looking to expand their outdoor squad in preparation for 2000 Outdoor season and would like to invite anyone interested in playing to their next practice session which will be held on the weekend of 23rd/24th October (Venue TBC). BAF intend to operate two independent teams for the U8 Tour events next year - an Open team and a separate Co-ed team. The Open team is looking to further consolidate it's position in the top 8 of the Tour and the Co-ed team hopes to be able to compete in the 9-16 bracket (though more emphasis will be placed on developing co-ed tactics and a strong co-ed team to hopefully compete in the next World Club Championships). Practices will take place monthly throughout the winter and will be held in either Cheltenham, Swindon or Witney. If you (or anyone you know) are interested (even if you can't make the first practice) then please get in touch with me at this e-mail address or phone on (01488) 682943 after 6pm. Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 27 20:23:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26763 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:21:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26753 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:21:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03348 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:21:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11VgKb-0001RH-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:21:03 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:10:36 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Nationals - unhappy observation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To Ben, and Red, Pitches and rain, much as expected. Mostly efficient. Thank you. Before the 5-8 semis on Sunday I asked Ben Ravillious (TD) what the game rules were. He confirmed that they'd been muttered about briefly in the captain's meeting and that a points limit of 19 had been mentioned, but that I should check with Chris Hughes (DoC and schedule boss) for specifics and context... Chris Hughes duly told me we were playing to 19, but still 90 mins, and 2 timeouts/half/team. Apparently, this was incorrect (as discovered AFTER half-time) but we stuck with it for that game. Whether this error had any effect is arguable (and believe me, we argued about it amongst ourselves!), but not the basis for my comment. My concern is this: Why was this information not included in either the handouts, at the captain's meeting, or available for reference in a form other than hunting down Chris Hughes and hoping his brain was in gear... ? Wayne Retter on behalf of the Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 02:23:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA04977 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:22:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04972 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:22:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28139 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:22:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from couplehood.demon.co.uk ([212.229.115.75]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Vly3-000G21-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 01:22:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3y0+rNA$xA83Ewgv@couplehood.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 01:31:59 +0100 Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline and Keen Reply-To: fonseka-koon@couplehood.demon.co.uk Subject: Nationals / Open Photos In-Reply-To: <000901bf066a$648f0da0$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is an open plea to anyone with good photos of either the Open or the Nationals for an article that I am writing for the Uni of London paper. It reaches around 60 - 100,000 students so it will be a good thing to do well. I am especially interested in photos involving student teams like Mohawks, Phat Eds or Strange Blue to fit the student audience and the thrust of the article. The bad news is that I need it in the next two days, the earlier the better! If you have any, please scan them in black and white and send them to me in JPEG format, high quality compression. I cannot offer payment but I will credit the photo and send you a copy if your photo is used. Thanks everyone, Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers and First Touch From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 08:37:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25236 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:36:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25219 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:36:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f274.hotmail.com [207.82.251.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28888 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:36:14 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 86059 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 1999 07:35:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990928073542.86058.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:35:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hong Kong 7's Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:35:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The tournament is now full, the following teams have qualified : Janiotors More Janitors UTT Superfly Substance Abuse Hulltimate Mud Culture - Katie/Gump (0113) 2787456 Whiplash - Claire/Sara (0113) 2758111 Phatheads - Emma (0113) 2174624/Sat only Si Hill and his Hareem Jedi Children Albatross The no. next to the team name is your contact for your accommodation, if you still require accommodation/or directions call Arun on (0113)2249680, camping facilities are not availible . The meeting on Friday night will be from 8pm in the Feast and Firkin (opposite Nafees curry house), Woodhouse lane, so call me if you need any further info or I'll seeya in the pub!! Arun ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 09:02:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28037 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:01:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28024 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:01:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10733 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:01:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11VsCX-000HCX-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:01:29 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:38:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Nationals - unhappy observation Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:38:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It struck me as confusing that after three years of the same basic system: Sat: 3 days of 90 mins or 17 points Sun: 2 games of 120 mins or 21 points that there was any change at all. Esp. since there were clearly no pitch constraints (lots of spare time, etc). It caused confusion in our semi against UTI, and evidently had a huge effect on the result ;) On a wider note (can you have such a thing?), would it be possible for the BUF to seek OFFICIAL clarification of how long a game of ultimate is please? Since (cf WUCC) WFDF haven't got the faintest idea how long they think a game should be and would appear to need prodding into a decision! If (as appears the case) there is a general tendency to shorten the game (I hope so) then I think it would be helpful if a) ultimate players knew about it b) ultimate players knew about it in advance of the season/tourney/etc whatever they are trianing for... Usual disclaimers about "thanks for organising the tourney" "wish more people made as much effort as you guys" "well organised" "great pitches" etc, etc, etc... Si - no team > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Retter [mailto:postmaster@phidelta.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 27 September 1999 20:11 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Nationals - unhappy observation > > > > To Ben, and Red, > Pitches and rain, much as expected. > Mostly efficient. > Thank you. > > > > > Before the 5-8 semis on Sunday I asked Ben Ravillious (TD) > what the game > rules were. He confirmed that they'd been muttered about > briefly in the > captain's meeting and that a points limit of 19 had been > mentioned, but > that I should check with Chris Hughes (DoC and schedule boss) for > specifics and context... > > Chris Hughes duly told me we were playing to 19, but still 90 > mins, and > 2 timeouts/half/team. > > Apparently, this was incorrect (as discovered AFTER half-time) but we > stuck with it for that game. > > Whether this error had any effect is arguable (and believe > me, we argued > about it amongst ourselves!), but not the basis for my comment. My > concern is this: > > Why was this information not included in either the handouts, at the > captain's meeting, or available for reference in a form other than > hunting down Chris Hughes and hoping his brain was in gear... ? > > > > > Wayne Retter > on behalf of the Fluid Druids > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > mobile: 07970-903420 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 09:51:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05518 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:49:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05513 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:49:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06175 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:49:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Vswl-000NvT-0K; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:49:17 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:37:18 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4828@lonsex02bkp> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Simon Hill'" , BritDisc Subject: RE: Nationals - unhappy observation Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:36:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si and everyone, The game length issue came up at the WFDF meeting at Worlds. True, there was a lot of disparity over what was the true length. We all know the rules say 21, 2 hours, three time outs per half, hard cap at 25 etc. It became evident that from the offering at the meeting we in the UK were the only country who regulalrly played games to 21 in tournaments. WFDF members made various excuses regarding the trial length of games for this year and that it would be reviewed in the future, whatever that will mean, who knows. I made comment remarking on the fact that finals of Ultimate tournaments always seem to be to a different number of points/duration than the pool/semi's etc and that this was fairly unique amongst sports. Everyone agreed but no one seemed to bothered that there was no standard length of game. 100 minutes was thought fairly good but 15 points too few. Standard questions non ulitmate players ask about the game that we (the ultimate community) cannot answer accurately. 'How many people play?' 'How long does a game last?' 'How many people on a team?' 'What do you play to? There are probably others too. These basic questions need answering if this sport is going to get greater recognition. In my opinion all games (in the Tour), (in official tournaments) should be played to the same number of points/duration and 100 mins, 17 points seems like a good starting point. Chris, have you any intention of changing the game length/points/structure for next season? Colin. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Hill [SMTP:simon.hill@actix.com] > Sent: 28 September 1999 08:38 > To: BritDisc > Subject: RE: Nationals - unhappy observation > > It struck me as confusing that after three years of the same basic system: > > Sat: 3 days of 90 mins or 17 points > Sun: 2 games of 120 mins or 21 points > > that there was any change at all. Esp. since there were clearly no pitch > constraints (lots of spare time, etc). It caused confusion in our semi > against UTI, and evidently had a huge effect on the result ;) > > On a wider note (can you have such a thing?), would it be possible for the > BUF to seek OFFICIAL clarification of how long a game of ultimate is > please? > Since (cf WUCC) WFDF haven't got the faintest idea how long they think a > game should be and would appear to need prodding into a decision! If (as > appears the case) there is a general tendency to shorten the game (I hope > so) then I think it would be helpful if > a) ultimate players knew about it > b) ultimate players knew about it in advance of the season/tourney/etc > whatever they are trianing for... > > > Usual disclaimers about > "thanks for organising the tourney" > "wish more people made as much effort as you guys" > "well organised" > "great pitches" > etc, etc, etc... > > > Si - no team > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wayne Retter [mailto:postmaster@phidelta.demon.co.uk] > > Sent: 27 September 1999 20:11 > > To: BritDisc > > Subject: Nationals - unhappy observation > > > > > > > > To Ben, and Red, > > Pitches and rain, much as expected. > > Mostly efficient. > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > Before the 5-8 semis on Sunday I asked Ben Ravillious (TD) > > what the game > > rules were. He confirmed that they'd been muttered about > > briefly in the > > captain's meeting and that a points limit of 19 had been > > mentioned, but > > that I should check with Chris Hughes (DoC and schedule boss) for > > specifics and context... > > > > Chris Hughes duly told me we were playing to 19, but still 90 > > mins, and > > 2 timeouts/half/team. > > > > Apparently, this was incorrect (as discovered AFTER half-time) but we > > stuck with it for that game. > > > > Whether this error had any effect is arguable (and believe > > me, we argued > > about it amongst ourselves!), but not the basis for my comment. My > > concern is this: > > > > Why was this information not included in either the handouts, at the > > captain's meeting, or available for reference in a form other than > > hunting down Chris Hughes and hoping his brain was in gear... ? > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Retter > > on behalf of the Fluid Druids > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wayne Retter > > at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 10:19:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09789 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:18:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09781 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:18:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10345 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:18:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:16:00 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:16:55 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5DC@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Nationals - unhappy observation Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:16:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ok since people are asking - I'll start with points in order Congrats to UTI for winning Nationals, and Doughboy for winning Spirit. Similar Congrats to 1st Touch for Div B. Thanks to Ben and Red for all their good work over the weekend, and baring the minor technical hiccups I thought it ran extremely well. The technical hiccups - yes I accept there was confusion, and I take the blame for that as I neglected to tell Ben what was going on. However I don't think that it affected any games as the confusion only arose in the knockout (and only a 2 point change), but I accept there was a cockup. Re: Game length - yes there is no convention across the UK let alone Europe or the World. It is usually dependent on No. of pitches / games / teams. Yes we should be trying to bring the Tour in line with the major events that it is designed to prepare teams for, and it is one of the many aspects of the tour rules that the u8c committee will be reviewing prior to next year. Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Wagstaff, Colin > [euler:eti-lon][SMTP:Colin.Wagstaff@eulergroup.com] > Sent: 28 September 1999 09:36 > To: 'Simon Hill'; BritDisc > Subject: RE: Nationals - unhappy observation > > Si and everyone, > > The game length issue came up at the WFDF meeting at Worlds. True, there > was a lot of disparity over what was the true length. We all know the > rules > say 21, 2 hours, three time outs per half, hard cap at 25 etc. It became > evident that from the offering at the meeting we in the UK were the only > country who regulalrly played games to 21 in tournaments. WFDF members > made > various excuses regarding the trial length of games for this year and that > it would be reviewed in the future, whatever that will mean, who knows. > > I made comment remarking on the fact that finals of Ultimate tournaments > always seem to be to a different number of points/duration than the > pool/semi's etc and that this was fairly unique amongst sports. Everyone > agreed but no one seemed to bothered that there was no standard length of > game. 100 minutes was thought fairly good but 15 points too few. > > Standard questions non ulitmate players ask about the game that we (the > ultimate community) cannot answer accurately. > 'How many people play?' > 'How long does a game last?' > 'How many people on a team?' > 'What do you play to? > > There are probably others too. > > These basic questions need answering if this sport is going to get greater > recognition. > > In my opinion all games (in the Tour), (in official tournaments) should be > played to the same number of points/duration and 100 mins, 17 points seems > like a good starting point. > > Chris, have you any intention of changing the game length/points/structure > for next season? > > Colin. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Simon Hill [SMTP:simon.hill@actix.com] > > Sent: 28 September 1999 08:38 > > To: BritDisc > > Subject: RE: Nationals - unhappy observation > > > > It struck me as confusing that after three years of the same basic > system: > > > > Sat: 3 days of 90 mins or 17 points > > Sun: 2 games of 120 mins or 21 points > > > > that there was any change at all. Esp. since there were clearly no > pitch > > constraints (lots of spare time, etc). It caused confusion in our semi > > against UTI, and evidently had a huge effect on the result ;) > > > > On a wider note (can you have such a thing?), would it be possible for > the > > BUF to seek OFFICIAL clarification of how long a game of ultimate is > > please? > > Since (cf WUCC) WFDF haven't got the faintest idea how long they think a > > game should be and would appear to need prodding into a decision! If > (as > > appears the case) there is a general tendency to shorten the game (I > hope > > so) then I think it would be helpful if > > a) ultimate players knew about it > > b) ultimate players knew about it in advance of the season/tourney/etc > > whatever they are trianing for... > > > > > > Usual disclaimers about > > "thanks for organising the tourney" > > "wish more people made as much effort as you guys" > > "well organised" > > "great pitches" > > etc, etc, etc... > > > > > > Si - no team > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wayne Retter [mailto:postmaster@phidelta.demon.co.uk] > > > Sent: 27 September 1999 20:11 > > > To: BritDisc > > > Subject: Nationals - unhappy observation > > > > > > > > > > > > To Ben, and Red, > > > Pitches and rain, much as expected. > > > Mostly efficient. > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before the 5-8 semis on Sunday I asked Ben Ravillious (TD) > > > what the game > > > rules were. He confirmed that they'd been muttered about > > > briefly in the > > > captain's meeting and that a points limit of 19 had been > > > mentioned, but > > > that I should check with Chris Hughes (DoC and schedule boss) for > > > specifics and context... > > > > > > Chris Hughes duly told me we were playing to 19, but still 90 > > > mins, and > > > 2 timeouts/half/team. > > > > > > Apparently, this was incorrect (as discovered AFTER half-time) but we > > > stuck with it for that game. > > > > > > Whether this error had any effect is arguable (and believe > > > me, we argued > > > about it amongst ourselves!), but not the basis for my comment. My > > > concern is this: > > > > > > Why was this information not included in either the handouts, at the > > > captain's meeting, or available for reference in a form other than > > > hunting down Chris Hughes and hoping his brain was in gear... ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Retter > > > on behalf of the Fluid Druids > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Wayne Retter > > > at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 11:21:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19495 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:20:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19490 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:20:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from curlew.cs.man.ac.uk (curlew.cs.man.ac.uk [130.88.13.7]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20541 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:20:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by curlew.cs.man.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 11VuMr-000IQR-00; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:20:17 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA938514022; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:20:23 GMT Message-Id: <9909289385.AA938514022@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:18:41 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: Subject: Nationals - another similar observation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In addition to: > It struck me as confusing that after three years of the same > basic system: > > Sat: 3 days of 90 mins or 17 points > Sun: 2 games of 120 mins or 21 points > > that there was any change at all. Esp. since there were > clearly no pitch > constraints (lots of spare time, etc). It caused confusion > in our semi > against UTI, and evidently had a huge effect on the result ;) and > > Chris Hughes duly told me we were playing to 19, but still 90 > > mins, and > > 2 timeouts/half/team. > > > > Apparently, this was incorrect (as discovered AFTER > half-time) but we > > stuck with it for that game. > > > > Whether this error had any effect is arguable (and believe > > me, we argued > > about it amongst ourselves!), but not the basis for my comment. My > > concern is this: I might add this: The 2hr final started late, at 2.30 instead of 2.15, by agreement of both teams. However at 4.15 a hooter was blown to indicate the end of normal time, clearly assuming a 2.15 start. Chevron ignored this, UTI didn't and during a time-out in the next point, with the score at 16-13, the two teams found themselves having to discuss whether or not we were in the cap. In the end, as UTI had taken a timeout assuming that they only had two points left to score, Chevron were forced to concede and we surrendered the last fifteen minutes of a game in which we were busily fighting our way back. Neither team was strictly to blame and neither was the TD, but this shouldn't happen at any point during National Championships, our showcase tournament, let alone during the final. Next year, at least for Nationals, let's make it a requirement that the successful Tournament Bid includes provision for Score/Timekeepers. Even if all they do is warn the teams to start on time and then start taking points it would be an improvement. Rob Chevron From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 11:30:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21732 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:30:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21727 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:30:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22159 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:30:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA00202 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:26:14 +0100 Message-Id: <199909281026.LAA00202@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:36:06 +0100 To: From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Nationals - another similar observation In-Reply-To: <9909289385.AA938514022@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Next year, at least for Nationals, let's make it a requirement that the >successful Tournament Bid includes provision for Score/Timekeepers. Even if all >they do is warn the teams to start on time and then start taking points it would >be an improvement. > You offering to be one? Or find/organise/make sure they are there on time/ know what they are doing/make sure they are not abused too much and all the extra work that this means? Barry - team formerly known as... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 12:24:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29553 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:21:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29533 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:21:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [204.146.168.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA21112 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:20:57 +0100 (BST) Received: by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 0079 ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:20:42 EDT Received: from roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk [194.202.79.130] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:20:33 EDT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:21:26 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BB901AD4@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:21:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Barry, no one's saying it's easy to organise these things but it's still a disgrace that between us we can't keep time for the national final. Rob, sorry about the shortened match but since ours was the only game being played we trusted the hooter. I believe there was an offer to play the extra 15 minutes with our TO reinstated, but it was decided to cap the match instead. Since the debating season's well and truly underway here are some more to play with: 1) Each Tour event to have one pitch with perimeter sidelines for matches likely to attract spectators 2) Qualification for international club tournaments (open division) to be based on performance in the Tour rather than Nationals 3) The world is not flat Alex UTI All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. 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If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 15:01:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23319 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:00:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23308 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:00:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from curlew.cs.man.ac.uk (curlew.cs.man.ac.uk [130.88.13.7]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12916 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:00:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by curlew.cs.man.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 11Vxni-0005XJ-00; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:00:14 +0100 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA938527221; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:00:23 GMT Message-Id: <9909289385.AA938527221@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:59:27 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: Nationals - another similar observation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > >Next year, at least for Nationals, let's make it a > requirement that the > >successful Tournament Bid includes provision for > Score/Timekeepers. Even > if all > >they do is warn the teams to start on time and then start > taking points it > would > >be an improvement. > > > > You offering to be one? Or find/organise/make sure they are > there on time/ > know what they are doing/make sure they are not abused too > much and all the > extra work that this means? > > Barry - team formerly known as... Every time someone suggests an improvement to the way Ultimate tournaments are run, we get this moan. We've had the 'well you try it then' debate a hundred tedious times and I don't intend to open it again. However, just because it's hard to run a tournament doesn't preclude us from suggesting improvements, which is what I'm doing. In this case, I'll be honest and tell you I don't think it would be a massive extra burden for Nationals to have time/scorekeepers. 10 people would have been more than enough for last weekend, and if an offer for next year is received from Bristol or Leicester or London or, god forbid, Manchester I can't see any reason why those places couldn't scrape 10 uninvolved players together to score the games. You've never been in a game with a dispute over the number of time-outs? You've never stood on the line trying to work out which end you started the game at so you can then figure out whether the score is correct? Never had a dispute over the timing of a game? This year I went to Nationals and did all those things in the same weekend. I'm not criticising the TDs, as such mix-ups are standard operating procedure for Ultimate tournaments in this country, but I am saying that situations like these are unacceptable at Nationals. Tell me you think it's acceptable for the two teams involved in the final to have to stop for three or four minutes to debate how much time they have left to play and I'll call you a fibber. Rob Chevron From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 16:03:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00742 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:02:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00734 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:02:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from viper.usafa.af.mil (viper.usafa.af.mil [204.34.211.81]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20335 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:02:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from viper.usafa.af.mil (root@localhost) by viper.usafa.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA14275 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:59:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fsxqpz02.usafa.af.mil (exchange.usafa.af.mil [128.236.5.61]) by viper.usafa.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA14259 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by exchange.usafa.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:02:09 -0600 Message-ID: <15A5B6227F19D311856E00902746453554CB5C@fsxqpz05.usafa.af.mil> From: "Schuricht, Paul" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Nationals Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:02:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone care to post some results, for those who weren't there? cheers Sonic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 28 16:21:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04155 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:20:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04150 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:20:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.kcl.ac.uk (mail.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.66.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24633 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:20:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from phpcg6.ph.kcl.ac.uk (phpcg6.ph.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.4.196]) by mail.kcl.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA19042 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:20:38 +0100 (BST) From: Spud To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: London students / Se teams Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:28:19 +0100 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.0.9 X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In reply to adam keens suggestion of a London regional team I think this is a good Idea and may I suggest that the way forward is to hold a meeting of all the captains / key players of the student clubs of london to thrash out some ideas about how this could be run. Also with enough teams in london we could also set up a mini league in london with regular games against each other which can only be good for teams to play competition regulary on a wednesday afternoon and would also be logistically easy to set up as the tube is easy cheap and accesible. Also running parallel, the south east student league I know there were problems last year but I think these can be Ironed out. If anyone wants to take up the guantlet, do so. If not I will take my experiences from last year put together a league. Our main problem last year was starting so late, a problem we can avoid this year. I think there were some good matches held though. kings will beat their top score of 8 points this year!!!!!!! Any how nuff said answers on a postcard Love Spud timothy.surry@kcl.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 29 12:52:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19706 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:51:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19693 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:51:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03425 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:51:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from kestrel.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.126.248]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 11WIGV-0006Ay-00 for britdisc@csv.Warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:51:19 +0100 Received: from MMU-HOL-KESTREL/SpoolDir by kestrel.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 29 Sep 99 12:51:04 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-HOL-KESTREL (Mercury 1.46); 29 Sep 99 12:50:41 GMT From: "Matt Reid" <58989439@mmu.ac.uk> Organization: Manchester Metropolitan University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:50:36 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Clubs just North of London X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <1681563885@kestrel.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For the last four years I have been playing Ultimate for the Manchester team Fingers 6. However as I have now got to enter the big bad world and get a job I am moving down south. I am looking for any teams as close to Hemel Hempstead as possible. If you know of any teams in North London, or just North of London could you please let me know. Thanks for your help, Matt Reid From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 30 12:16:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20201 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:13:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20194 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:13:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f171.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15211 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:13:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 34456 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 1999 11:13:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990930111313.34455.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.182.175.114 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 04:13:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.182.175.114] From: "Dave Rolleston" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Want to join a team or play pickup Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:13:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just moved to London...need to play. Pick up or on a A or even a B team (just want a game). Is there any pick up..When where. Can I scab on any teams that needs players???? Played in Vancouver for number of years. Please email me at : TGSUK@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 30 12:57:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28930 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:55:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28922 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:55:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.dur.ac.uk (hermes.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19709 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:55:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.dur.ac.uk (mercury.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.40]) by hermes.dur.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13536 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:55:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from durham.ac.uk (lib--311.dur.ac.uk [129.234.86.11]) by mercury.dur.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04059 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:55:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37F350C2.7E652A27@durham.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:00:02 +0100 From: "J.A.D.Bierman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Please Remove Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please remove J.A.D.Bierman@durham.ac.uk from Britdisc. Thanx. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 30 13:57:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11610 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:55:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11598 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:55:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.kcl.ac.uk (mail.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.66.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26373 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:55:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from phpch1.ph.kcl.ac.uk (phpch1.ph.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.4.201]) by mail.kcl.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16335 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:54:34 +0100 (BST) From: Spud To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: se student league Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:57:21 +0100 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.0.9 X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Part9909301320.F" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --Part9909301320.F Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII For all student teams in the south east South-east Student League 99/2000. Dear Team, The time of year has come to start thinking about the league. Apologies for all the organisational problems last year but this year will be better. With more time to play and better organisation. Games will be every two weeks giving teams more time to organise themselves and hopefully limit the amount of games being missed. I will propose a nominal entry fee (approx. Five pounds) to cover the admin costs and the buying of a small trophy. This will make the league more official, which will be good for the recognition of student ultimate. The results will be posted to the web each week on the King's web site which will be up and running in the next couple of weeks. I would also urge you to post the results in your student newspaper and web sites. Games will be outdoors, lasting two hours or 21 points with a half time and 1 time out per team per half. If you wish to be part of the league please register your entry by Wednesday 13th October 1999. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA --Part9909301320.F-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 30 22:24:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03866 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:23:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03859 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:23:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13817 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:23:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dialup-0246.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.144.246]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA53948 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:22:47 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <001201bf0b88$f440abc0$f690cbc1@default> From: "Eoghan Barry" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Did I miss something? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:01:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk or were you all too busy whining about the length of a game of ultimate for anyone to comment on the demise of Catch 22, a team that managed to go in less than five years from being indisputably the worst club team in England to winning Nationals in spite of having chinless Rodneys like Mango on the line? Not even some trash talking about the lack of cojones displayed by the kind of team that splits up because they couldn't win the Tour, the Open or Nationals this year? You guys disappoint me. Eoghan Barry Dublin Pookas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 30 22:24:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03861 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:23:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03853 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:23:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.iol.ie (mail1.mail.iol.ie [194.125.2.192]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13814 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (dialup-0246.dublin.iol.ie [193.203.144.246]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA53938 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:22:45 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <001101bf0b88$f36fa020$f690cbc1@default> From: "Eoghan Barry" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Looking for discs Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:56:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Someone posted a couple of weeks ago offering Bomb discs at something like £65 for ten. Any chance you could mail me - I'm looking for twenty of the beggars? Eoghan Barry Dublin Pookas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 04:13:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA00351 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:12:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA00339 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:12:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22930 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:12:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from couplehood.demon.co.uk ([212.229.115.75]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Wt77-000J3n-0K; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:12:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 04:11:22 +0100 To: Spud , princessroberta@hotmail.com, peter_james_coy@hotmail.com, student-ultimate@egroups.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline and Keen Reply-To: fonseka-koon@couplehood.demon.co.uk, london_ultimate@hotmail.com Subject: SE STYDENT LEAGUE AND FRIENDLY FIRES NOV 3 TOURNEY AND LONDON STUDENT 'SUPER' TEAM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > I will propose a nominal entry fee (approx. Five pounds) to >cover the admin costs and the buying of a small trophy. This >will make the league more official, which will be good for the >recognition of student ultimate. Dear Spud and the rest of Ulty in London, Oh go on then. Put UCL on your list for the SE league, although I have absolutely no idea what kind of team we will have this year yet!! On another note, UCL and IC have tentatively made plans for a scrimmage on Weds 3rd November, mainly for the benefit of beginners and and new players to the team. It will be in Regent's Park and we thought it would be great to have all the college teams turn up for a big day out of friendly disc. In typical Friedly Fires fashion, it will be a joint effort in organization and there will be no fee for the day as the only trophy we will provide is the opportunity for everyone to have a good time. The plan is to turn up fairly early for a captain's meeting at 930am and the first games will start at around 10am. The format will be decided at the meeting, and we may even have a half and half tournament with ppl playing with their own teams for the first couple of games, and tehn mixing things up in a HAT format for the next couple of games until the sun goes away (assuming that it gets out there in the first place. After party will be at the ULU Duck and Dive pub for drinkies and war stories. Consider this the formal invitation. Please send the replies of attendance to the following email: london_ultimate@hotmail.com Cheers and Beers, boys and girls, and I hope things turn out well on the day. Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers and First Touch Ultimate PS, anyone interested in some hardcore, high-level training for the so- called London Student Super Team (which is under the working name/s of Disc On Arrival or Dancing On Air - D.O.A. for short) please let me know so we can arrange selection dates and training times ASAP! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 09:39:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24467 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:37:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24454 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:37:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08395 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:37:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 1 Oct 99 09:37:48 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 1 Oct 99 09:37:24 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:37:17 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Catch 22 In-reply-to: <001201bf0b88$f440abc0$f690cbc1@default> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <268374B0D6C@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Following Eoghan's comment it does seem strange that there were no follow up postings about the demise of Catch 22. During their ascendance to the top flight my old team Stan had some great games with Catch. We appreciated their blend of skill, graft and team spirit. Most of all they loved "gags" Perhaps some of the Catch players would like to tell britdisc their most memorable pranks and inspire the next generation to continue the spirit of fun. Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 09:52:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27153 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27142 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:50:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09301; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:50:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from pow ([198.80.124.200]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA24481; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:46:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199910010846.JAA24481@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:56:27 +0100 To: "Derek Robins" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Catch 22 In-Reply-To: <268374B0D6C@admin.warwick.ac.uk> References: <001201bf0b88$f440abc0$f690cbc1@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am still sulking over having my hat nicked in Vancouver. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 11:14:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12368 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:13:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12353 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:13:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f107.hotmail.com [209.185.131.170]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17566 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:13:16 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 51491 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 1999 10:12:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19991001101244.51490.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.35 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 03:12:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.35] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: lost hat Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 03:12:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk anyone find a blue "world industries" cap at the nationals? it's got a picture of flameboy on the front and it stinks - but i like it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 12:40:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29561 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:38:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29547 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:38:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28612 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:38:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 12:35:32 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:35:23 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5E4@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: GB Practice Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:35:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Again I repeat my call to all and any of you out there for the GB practice. I can now confirm the venue as Woughton Playing Fields in Milton Keynes (so chosen for it's relative ease of access for most people in the country). The practice will be on SATURDAY the 16th of October. This will make it easier for those traveling by train (remember MK is on the main line out of London, and is one stop up on the Inter-city's), and will also allow those long distance travelers - eg from the North and Scotland to return home at their leisure and recover before having to work on Monday. (Before people squawk about the Rugby - England play on Fri 15th against Tonga (1:00pm KO) - and Scotland is the only home country playing; against Spain - a team they beat earlier this year by over 80 points; so no big games to miss). I am still waiting for suggestions on how the GB teams and practice to run - which I want in advance - any debate discussion / decision is not going to be made if 150 people start having bright ideas on the day, and shouting about them. I will not be filtering out any proposals (just the blatantly stupid), and will only edit text if your suggestion waffles on to a second page of A4. Thanks (especially to Pete Conner for arranging the venue - there is limited food available on site - burgers / chips) Chris Hughes DoC Directions To Woughton Park; Directions are as follows; from M1(South) or Bedford/Cambridge via A421 Exit at junc.13. Take A421 towards MK & Buckingham, this becomes Standing Way once you're in MK. Stay on Standing Way. About 1/3 of a mile after Kents Hill Roundabout(its signposted) turn left towards Woughton Park and then immediately right to pass under the dual carriageway, then immediately right again into the club's drive. signposts read "Woughton Playing Fields".(The club is clearly visible on the right hand side of the road from Standing Way but there is no right turn off the dual carriageway) >From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. >From South West and Oxford via A421 A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 13:47:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12017 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:45:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11999 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:45:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05867 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:45:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:45:26 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13623; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:44:49 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: "HUGHES, Chris" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Re: GB Practice In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5E4@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:41:38 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Er... Thanks Chris. Way too much information as usual. Except, what time is this practice starting? Rafi (Free Transfer Market) Chris- PS- I would like an answer to my previous e at some point, thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 14:11:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16762 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:10:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16751 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:10:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23827 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:10:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 14:03:01 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:02:25 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5E7@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: FW: GB Practice Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:02:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As accurately pointed out by Rafi I neglected to give a time. Be there ready to begin the practice for 10:30am (so 10:00 am if you want to leisurely put on your boots throw around, chat to your mates, roll up, etc.) > ---------- > From: HUGHES, Chris[SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > Sent: 01 October 1999 12:35 > To: 'BritDisc' > Subject: GB Practice > > Again I repeat my call to all and any of you out there for the GB > practice. > > I can now confirm the venue as Woughton Playing Fields in Milton Keynes > (so > chosen for it's relative ease of access for most people in the country). > > The practice will be on SATURDAY the 16th of October. This will make it > easier for those traveling by train (remember MK is on the main line out > of > London, and is one stop up on the Inter-city's), and will also allow those > long distance travelers - eg from the North and Scotland to return home at > their leisure and recover before having to work on Monday. (Before people > squawk about the Rugby - England play on Fri 15th against Tonga (1:00pm > KO) > - and Scotland is the only home country playing; against Spain - a team > they > beat earlier this year by over 80 points; so no big games to miss). > > I am still waiting for suggestions on how the GB teams and practice to run > - > which I want in advance - any debate discussion / decision is not going to > be made if 150 people start having bright ideas on the day, and shouting > about them. I will not be filtering out any proposals (just the blatantly > stupid), and will only edit text if your suggestion waffles on to a second > page of A4. > > Thanks (especially to Pete Conner for arranging the venue - there is > limited > food available on site - burgers / chips) > > Chris Hughes > DoC > > Directions To Woughton Park; > Directions are as follows; > from M1(South) or Bedford/Cambridge via A421 > Exit at junc.13. Take A421 towards MK & Buckingham, this > becomes Standing Way once you're in MK. Stay on Standing > Way. About 1/3 of a mile after Kents Hill Roundabout(its > signposted) turn left towards Woughton Park and then immediately > right to pass under the dual carriageway, then immediately right > again into the club's drive. signposts read "Woughton Playing > Fields".(The club is clearly visible on the right hand side of the road > from Standing Way but there is no right turn off the dual > carriageway) > > From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 > Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At > second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow > directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. > > From South West and Oxford via A421 > A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing > Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy > two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then > immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the > entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the > carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 14:42:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22446 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:40:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22431 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:40:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25332 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:40:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 01 Oct 1999 14:35:20 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:34:58 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5E8@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'sally.riggs@ac.com'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: GB Practice Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:34:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Unless someone MK wants to correct me - Taxi (my knowledge of Milton Keynes is v. limited.) > ---------- > From: sally.riggs@ac.com[SMTP:sally.riggs@ac.com] > Sent: 01 October 1999 15:23 > To: HUGHES, Chris > Subject: Re: GB Practice > > Howde Chris > > How is it best to get there from the train station?? > > Cheers beers > > Sally > > > > "HUGHES, Chris" (Mailed by: "HUGHES, Chris" > ) > 01/10/99 11:35 GMT > > To: "'BritDisc'" > cc: (bcc: Sally Riggs) > Subject: GB Practice > > > > > Again I repeat my call to all and any of you out there for the GB > practice. > > I can now confirm the venue as Woughton Playing Fields in Milton Keynes > (so > chosen for it's relative ease of access for most people in the country). > > The practice will be on SATURDAY the 16th of October. This will make it > easier for those traveling by train (remember MK is on the main line out > of > London, and is one stop up on the Inter-city's), and will also allow those > long distance travelers - eg from the North and Scotland to return home at > their leisure and recover before having to work on Monday. (Before people > squawk about the Rugby - England play on Fri 15th against Tonga (1:00pm > KO) > - and Scotland is the only home country playing; against Spain - a team > they > beat earlier this year by over 80 points; so no big games to miss). > > I am still waiting for suggestions on how the GB teams and practice to run > - > which I want in advance - any debate discussion / decision is not going to > be made if 150 people start having bright ideas on the day, and shouting > about them. I will not be filtering out any proposals (just the blatantly > stupid), and will only edit text if your suggestion waffles on to a second > page of A4. > > Thanks (especially to Pete Conner for arranging the venue - there is > limited > food available on site - burgers / chips) > > Chris Hughes > DoC > > Directions To Woughton Park; > Directions are as follows; > from M1(South) or Bedford/Cambridge via A421 > Exit at junc.13. Take A421 towards MK & Buckingham, this > becomes Standing Way once you're in MK. Stay on Standing > Way. About 1/3 of a mile after Kents Hill Roundabout(its > signposted) turn left towards Woughton Park and then immediately > right to pass under the dual carriageway, then immediately right > again into the club's drive. signposts read "Woughton Playing > Fields".(The club is clearly visible on the right hand side of the road > from Standing Way but there is no right turn off the dual > carriageway) > > From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 > Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At > second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow > directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. > > From South West and Oxford via A421 > A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing > Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy > two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then > immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the > entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the > carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 1 15:15:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29578 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:14:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29566 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:14:13 +0100 (BST) From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19328 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:14:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:13:49 +0100 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13772; Fri, 1 Oct 99 15:13:43 BST Message-Id: <9910011413.AA13772@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:13:38 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: GB Practice In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5E8@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You can get there by taxi from MK central station, this will set you back 4-5 pounds, from what I can work out for the bus timetables you should be able to get the 41 leaving the railway station at 0900 or 1100 and arriving near the fields 15mins later or you can get the 33 which leaves the railway station at 1018 and gets to the fields at 1034, costing about a pound, the buses should go through the village, you should aim to get off them outside Ye Olde Swan pub, from there go down the slope, you should be able to see some floodlight towers not very far away, if you go along the path by the side of the (fenced off) pitches with these towers after 200 metres and a couple of small bridges the path opens out on to some pitches (including the ones being used for ultimate) the pavilion where I imagine everyone will meet will be off to your right. Please note my personal experience of MK bus services is that they are atrociously unreliable Pete > > > > Howde Chris > > > > How is it best to get there from the train station?? > > > > Cheers beers > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > "HUGHES, Chris" (Mailed by: "HUGHES, Chris" > > ) > > 01/10/99 11:35 GMT > > > > To: "'BritDisc'" > > cc: (bcc: Sally Riggs) > > Subject: GB Practice > > > > > > > > > > Again I repeat my call to all and any of you out there for the GB > > practice. > > > > I can now confirm the venue as Woughton Playing Fields in Milton Keynes > > (so > > chosen for it's relative ease of access for most people in the country). > > > > The practice will be on SATURDAY the 16th of October. This will make it > > easier for those traveling by train (remember MK is on the main line out > > of > > London, and is one stop up on the Inter-city's), and will also allow those > > long distance travelers - eg from the North and Scotland to return home at > > their leisure and recover before having to work on Monday. (Before people > > squawk about the Rugby - England play on Fri 15th against Tonga (1:00pm > > KO) > > - and Scotland is the only home country playing; against Spain - a team > > they > > beat earlier this year by over 80 points; so no big games to miss). > > > > I am still waiting for suggestions on how the GB teams and practice to run > > - > > which I want in advance - any debate discussion / decision is not going to > > be made if 150 people start having bright ideas on the day, and shouting > > about them. I will not be filtering out any proposals (just the blatantly > > stupid), and will only edit text if your suggestion waffles on to a second > > page of A4. > > > > Thanks (especially to Pete Conner for arranging the venue - there is > > limited > > food available on site - burgers / chips) > > > > Chris Hughes > > DoC > > > > Directions To Woughton Park; > > Directions are as follows; > > from M1(South) or Bedford/Cambridge via A421 > > Exit at junc.13. Take A421 towards MK & Buckingham, this > > becomes Standing Way once you're in MK. Stay on Standing > > Way. About 1/3 of a mile after Kents Hill Roundabout(its > > signposted) turn left towards Woughton Park and then immediately > > right to pass under the dual carriageway, then immediately right > > again into the club's drive. signposts read "Woughton Playing > > Fields".(The club is clearly visible on the right hand side of the road > > from Standing Way but there is no right turn off the dual > > carriageway) > > > > From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 > > Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At > > second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow > > directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. > > > > From South West and Oxford via A421 > > A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing > > Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy > > two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then > > immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the > > entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the > > carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Oct 2 21:16:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07325 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:14:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07319 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:14:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01358 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:14:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11XVYK-000MD6-0K; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:14:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:02:46 +0100 Bcc: From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Newport Indoor Ultimate / Millenium Stadium Rugby fixtures MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is about potential Indoor Ultimate and Rugby clashes... delete now if utterly uninterested! Druids are rather hoping to host the annual Newport Indoor Tournament sometime late January or February. Past experience dictates that being in Newport on the same weekend as the Rugby happening at Cardiff Arms Park (now the Millennium Stadium) is bad news on the accommodation front. So, anyone know where I can find a fixtures list for the Millennium Stadium? I've tried the Rugby World Cup website, but it doesn't go on long enough, or have any useful links (that I can find!) TIA Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Oct 3 22:07:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09521 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:05:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08698 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:04:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f279.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.57]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA18712 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:04:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 13081 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 1999 21:03:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19991003210358.13080.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.152.248.177 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:03:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.152.248.177] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: dak12@cam.ac.uk, yo@eprimas.demon.co.uk, gynga@excite.com, hjss@richardsbutler.com, isla@isla.freeserve.co.uk, jpurves@cc.ernsty.co.uk, kawij@hotmail.com, badbird@cwcom.net, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, pyuni@csv.warwick.ac.uk, moebhnea@fs2.scg.man.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, FaneS@logica.com, 97315250@brookes.ac.uk, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk, Wpb198@soton.ac.uk Subject: Women's tournament Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:03:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The last Women's tournament of 1999 October 30th/31st Venue: Warwick University Party/Fancy Dress, to be confirmed. Accommodation available. Cost Forty Five pounds per team, Twenty pounds non-refundable deposit to be paid to secure your place. Deposit deadline. 18th October There are only 8 places available. If you are an individual player or a group that can not form a whole team, please also get in touch and I will do my best to accommodate you/your group. 1st teams will be given priority over 2nd teams until the deposit deadline date. Please send cheques made payable to: Vanessa White 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Entry Form ………………………………………………………………………………………… Women Tournament Entry Form Warwick Uni. 30th and 31st October 1999 Team Name Team Contact Name Address Tel. No. Email. Please approximate how many players you will have. Please approximate how many will need accommodation. Vanessa White BUF Women Co-Ordinator nessa_white@hotmail.com 020 8663 4856 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Oct 3 22:11:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12057 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:10:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11466 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:09:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f157.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.157]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA18858 for ; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:09:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 2691 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 1999 21:08:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19991003210842.2690.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.152.248.177 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:08:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.152.248.177] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Women's Events Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 14:08:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Changes to the women's diary. In order to allow Women teams to grow it has been decided to move Womens Nationals to Spring/Summertime. This will specifically benefit student team, and I hope will encourage women to stay in the sport longer. Diary: Women's tourney Outdoors 30th/31st October 99 Warwick Women's Indoor Nationals Jan 22nd/23rd or Jan 29th/30th Venue tbc. Women's National Outdoors. Date tbc. If you are interested in hosting National Indoors or Outdoors, please send your bids to me. If there is a womens actiivty you would like to be considered for the diary, please contact me. Thanks Vanessa White BUF Women's Co-Ordinator nessa_white@hotmail.com 020 8663 4856 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 08:37:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21404 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:23:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21084 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:22:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18381 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA11023 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910040647.HAA11023@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 09:44:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18327 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:10:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16160 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:07:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26827 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:06:06 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA13124 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:06:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:06:05 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910040806.JAA13124@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 16th October 1999 GB practice (1 day) @ Woughton Playing Fields, Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate] Open to all players and non players interested in being involved in GB ultimate in any of the five divisions (Open, Women's, Mixed, Masters, Juniors). Contact Chris for directions or check the britdisc annoucement. Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Coy Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 13th November 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 10:52:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04523 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:42:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25789 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:26:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10820 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:26:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Y4NY-00056z-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:25:56 +0100 Received: from icex5.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.5]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Y4NQ-0002Bl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:25:48 +0100 Received: by icex5.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:25:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Wall, Alexander P" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE students Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:25:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk SE Ultimate reps, There's been a whole lot of talk about the setting up of 'Super Team' tournies, and the possible breakaway of London from the SE region . . . This season, I'd really like to see SE teams getting a march on the North so it would be good to have a couple of early games to get moving, and see where we're at with reference to 'Super' teams and London. Adam Keen has clearly been busy sorting out stuff in London, with a Friendly Fire tournie and Spud is cracking on with the League . . it would be awesome if one of the big SE clubs (Skunks, Mohawks, Strange Blue?) could put on an early tournie to get the ball rolling and encourage interest. Best of luck for the new season, Alex Wall Discdoctors, UTI From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 13:38:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11621 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:36:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04033 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:41:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28672 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:26:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:24:06 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:24:09 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5F3@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Simon Hill getting confused Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:24:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si's been sending mail to the wrong address, and has asked me to pass this on - some very valid points > ---------- > From: Simon Hill[SMTP:simon.hill@actix.com] > Sent: 04 October 1999 08:26 > To: 'HUGHES, Chris' > Subject: RE: GB Practice - suggestions (+ a little more 22) > > Dare I suggest that people > a) don't need to roll-up > b) don't need burgers and chips because they will bring a small amount of > food that can be eaten at "lunchtime" without pissing off away from where > the practice is going on... thereby allowing sensible conversation to go > on. > > If you're coming to the practice, remember that you are coming to show > interest in playing for Great Britain. > You have no right to play for Great Britain. > You hope that if you train hard enough and work well with other people who > are interested, you might make the squad. > > Give the whole process some respect, and treat the progress of the > team(s?) > you might play for as more important than your own petty requirements. > > Si - (ex Professor of Gagology, currently on free-transfer market with > other > has-beens like Raf!) > > ps - something must have pissed me off this morning > > Catch22: > pps - thanks to everyone who has said things about Catch 22 - Del: I'd be > more than happy to re-tell my favourite Jon Gewirtz story but I'm guessing > that I told you about 13 times in Vancouver on the bus home from the > party! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > > Sent: 01 October 1999 14:02 > > To: 'BritDisc' > > Subject: FW: GB Practice > > > > > > As accurately pointed out by Rafi I neglected to give a time. > > > > Be there ready to begin the practice for 10:30am (so 10:00 am > > if you want to > > leisurely put on your boots throw around, chat to your mates, > > roll up, etc.) > > > > > ---------- > > > From: HUGHES, Chris[SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > > > Sent: 01 October 1999 12:35 > > > To: 'BritDisc' > > > Subject: GB Practice > > > > > > Again I repeat my call to all and any of you out there for the GB > > > practice. > > > > > > I can now confirm the venue as Woughton Playing Fields in > > Milton Keynes > > > (so > > > chosen for it's relative ease of access for most people in > > the country). > > > > > > The practice will be on SATURDAY the 16th of October. This > > will make it > > > easier for those traveling by train (remember MK is on the > > main line out > > > of > > > London, and is one stop up on the Inter-city's), and will > > also allow those > > > long distance travelers - eg from the North and Scotland to > > return home at > > > their leisure and recover before having to work on Monday. > > (Before people > > > squawk about the Rugby - England play on Fri 15th against > > Tonga (1:00pm > > > KO) > > > - and Scotland is the only home country playing; against > > Spain - a team > > > they > > > beat earlier this year by over 80 points; so no big games to miss). > > > > > > I am still waiting for suggestions on how the GB teams and > > practice to run > > > - > > > which I want in advance - any debate discussion / decision > > is not going to > > > be made if 150 people start having bright ideas on the day, > > and shouting > > > about them. I will not be filtering out any proposals (just > > the blatantly > > > stupid), and will only edit text if your suggestion waffles > > on to a second > > > page of A4. > > > > > > Thanks (especially to Pete Conner for arranging the venue - there is > > > limited > > > food available on site - burgers / chips) > > > > > > Chris Hughes > > > DoC > > > > > > Directions To Woughton Park; > > > Directions are as follows; > > > from M1(South) or Bedford/Cambridge via A421 > > > Exit at junc.13. Take A421 towards MK & Buckingham, this > > > becomes Standing Way once you're in MK. Stay on Standing > > > Way. About 1/3 of a mile after Kents Hill Roundabout(its > > > signposted) turn left towards Woughton Park and then immediately > > > right to pass under the dual carriageway, then immediately right > > > again into the club's drive. signposts read "Woughton Playing > > > Fields".(The club is clearly visible on the right hand side > > of the road > > > from Standing Way but there is no right turn off the dual > > > carriageway) > > > > > > From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 > > > Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At > > > second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow > > > directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. > > > > > > From South West and Oxford via A421 > > > A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing > > > Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy > > > two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then > > > immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the > > > entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the > > > carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. > > > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 13:38:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11382 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:36:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02125 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:37:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05150 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:02:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 09:59:37 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:59:21 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED5F6@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Important Events / Bids Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:59:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk After discussion with the Student and Women's coordinators I have finalised The majority of BUF events for the next year. (These are in the Diary - it appears Sam is not bothering you with info that far ahead) Nessa has already sent out about Women's and Pete is taking care of Students so here goes; Bids Indoor Regionals - February 26 / 27 & March 4 / 5 These events will again be qualifying events rather than strict regions, with any team able to enter any event. Expect to be able to cope with anything up to 20 teams, but at this stage the number of teams that you are able to cope with is unimportant. Indoor Nationals - March 18 / 19 or 25 / 26 (preferably the first) 24 teams, min 2 pitches, preferably 3 pitches (although good sized pitches is important) Viewing gallery, space for teams off pitch, accommodation options for the small of wallet. Tour; As per the AGM one of these tour events needs to be split North(ish) / South(ish). Sensibly this should be T2 or T3 T1; April 15 /16 T2; May 20 / 21 (possibly 27 /28) T3; June 17 /18 (possibly 24 /25) T4; July 15/16 (possibly 22 / 23) (WUC2000 - 5 - 13th August) Nationals; September 23 / 24 You can expect to cope with a minimum of 32 teams possibly more. Venues should have; adequate changing facilities with hot water (well there's always a first time!). Full size marked pitches, pitch side food and drink, suitable first aid cover, massage facilities, out of weather huddle space, parking. You also need to provide for the variety of overnight accommodation - hotels & B&B, cheap YMCA type, and free (camping / floor space). Evening should have a party, but some organised drinking at the pub will suffice. Expect the split event to be off the same standard but only 24 teams (? - I'm guessing!) When pricing don't forget to account for BUF tax (15 for the tour) and ensure that you are not going out of pocket, but excessive profit will be frowned upon. Give me full details of venue, location, facilities, accommodation, prices, etc. Indoor bids by end of October Outdoor Bids by15th of November Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 13:38:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11431 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:36:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26758 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:27:36 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910040647.HAA11023@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:30:14 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: BUF Events in 2000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary > --------------------------------------------- There is a slight problem with the automated diary - at present it will not show the events scheduled after 31/12/99. Here are the ones pencilled in so far (apologies for the format): #[gbpractice1-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 8/1/00 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[womensindoors2000] #Class: Indoor, Ultimate #Name: Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC #Location: TBA #Date: 29/1/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @vanessa #[womensoutdoors2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate #Name: Women's Outdoor Nationals - TBC #Location: TBA #Date: TBA #Days: 2 #Contact: @vanessa #[gbpractice2-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 8/2/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[studentindoornationals2000] #Class: Indoor, Ultimate #Name: Student Indoor Nationals #Location: TBA #Date: 19/2/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @pcoy #[indoorregionals1-2000] #Class: Indoor, Ultimate #Name: Indoor Regionals #Location: TBA #Date: 26/2/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[indoorregionals2-2000] #Class: Indoor, Ultimate #Name: Indoor Regionals #Location: TBA #Date: 4/3/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[gbpractice3-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 11/3/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[indoornationals2000] #Class: Indoor, Ultimate #Name: Indoor Nationals #Location: TBA #Date: 18/3/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[gbpractice4-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 8/4/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[tourI-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate #Name: TOUR I #Location: TBA #Date: 15/4/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[paganello2000] #Class: Outdoor, Foreign, Ultimate #Name: Paganello Beach Ultimate #Location: Rimini, Italy #Date: 22/4/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: Peldi # } #[brugge2000] #Class: Outdoor, Foreign, Ultimate #Name: Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC #Location: Brugge, Belgium #Date: 6/5/2000 #Days: 2 #URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ #Contact: { # Name: Freez Beezz # } #[gbpractice5-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 13/5/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[tourII-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate #Name: TOUR II #Location: TBA #Date: 20/5/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[rotterdam2000] #Class: Outdoor, Foreign, Ultimate #Name: Harbour Ultimate - TBC #Location: Rotterdam, The Netherlands #Date: 1/6/2000 #Days: 4 #Contact: { # Name: Airbreakers # } #[gbpractice6-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 10/6/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[tourIII-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate #Name: TOUR III #Location: TBA #Date: 17/6/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[gbpractice7-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate, Practice #Name: GB Training #Location: TBA #Date: 8/7/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: { # Name: TBA # } #[tourIV-2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate #Name: TOUR IV #Location: TBA #Date: 15/7/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes #[wugc2000] #Class: Outdoor, Foreign, Ultimate, Guts #Name: WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships #Location: Heilbronn, Germany #Date: 5/8/2000 #Days: 8 #URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ #Comment: National Teams only. #[nationaloutdoors2000] #Class: Outdoor, Ultimate #Name: National Outdoors #Location: TBA #Date: 23/9/2000 #Days: 2 #Contact: @chughes [chughes] Class: Contact Name: Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Email: chughes@chelt.ac.uk Address: 81 Bittern Avenue, Abbeydale, Gloucester, GL4 4WG Phone: 01242 543299 (work) Phone: 01452 380529 (home) [pcoy] Class: Contact Name: Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email: POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk [vanessa] Class: Contact Name: Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address: 15 Courtlands, 17 Court Downs Road, Beckenham, Kent, BR3 6LN Phone: 020 8663 4856 Email: nessa_white@hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 13:54:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18465 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:52:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01914 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:14:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11619 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:14:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from cairn.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@cairn.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.199.112]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA10758 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:13:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by cairn.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA07296 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:13:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: cairn.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:13:58 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Beginners Tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The time is drawing closer and space is filling up. It appears that in the first invites we neglected to tell you all who to make the cheques out to. Please make them payable to EUUFC. Any personal cheques recived so far are fine, however can hull please send me another cheque, don't worry, We'll keep you space. Cheers and sorry, Paul Eastman RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 14:58:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18548 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:16:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17842 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:13:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29873 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:38:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA14256 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:38:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:38:22 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910040838.JAA14256@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 16th October 1999 GB practice (1 day) @ Woughton Playing Fields, Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Open to all players and non players interested in being involved in GB ultimate in any of the five divisions (Open, Women's, Mixed, Masters, Juniors). Contact Chris for directions or check the britdisc annoucement. Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Warwick University, Coventry [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Peter Coy Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 13th November 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 15:50:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18481 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:44:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18462 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:44:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h006.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA19142 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:44:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 21472 invoked from network); 4 Oct 1999 07:34:23 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO hamkaran.com) (208.222.18.55) by smtp.systemgroup.net with SMTP; 4 Oct 1999 07:34:23 -0700 X-Sent: 4 Oct 1999 14:34:23 GMT Received: from systemgroup.net [192.168.10.2] by hamkaran.com [192.168.10.5] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.83s.R) for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:59:41 +0330 Received: from riznet.com [192.168.10.68] by systemgroup.net [192.168.10.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.83.R) for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 17:59:53 +0330 Received: from ariyo [198.53.22.131] by riznet.com [198.53.22.29] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for ; Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:44:17 +0330 Message-ID: <001501bf0e61$cb8b8c00$831635c6@ariyo> From: "Ariyo Taghizadeh" TO: Subject: Removal Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:42:08 +0330 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF0E7F.046DBF80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ataghizadeh@riznet.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF0E7F.046DBF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please remove ataghizadeh@riznet.com from britdisc ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF0E7F.046DBF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF0E7F.046DBF80-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 15:59:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23186 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:57:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23179 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:57:37 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20068 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:57:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23187 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:57:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23656 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:59:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA13706 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:55:54 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:55:41 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Lurkers Club Indoor Practices MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA23181 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lurkers indoor practices will be starting again from the Wed 6 Oct 1999. The Time: 6-7:30PM The Place: St Mary's School, Tavistock Rd, Croydon, Surrey The Map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=532750&Y=166250&ar row=Y The Cost: £3 approx per session. See you there Cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 16:23:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01275 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:20:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01253 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:20:44 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:23:25 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: BUF diary / britdisc Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk IT SEEMS MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL UNSURE ABOUT HOW TO JOIN AND LEAVE THIS MAILING LIST, SO ... Just to remind the britdisc readers and contributors about Ralf's parting remarks: "I've left Sammy in charge whilst I'm away, so can you please field diary related stuff to him. He's also doing the majordomo admin stuff for britdisc, although you can all help to reduce the amount of work he has to do here. Some tips for britdisc: o Don't post things that look like commands. e.g. a subject or very short mail containing things like "help", "unsubscribe", "remove" etc. o Don't post large things, especially not over 40K. MS Word attachments are a definite no-no. If you want to post large things, use plain text or put things up on a web-site and provide a URL. o Subscribe / unsubscribe by sending mail to majordomo@csv.warwick.ac.uk with the following text in the body: subscribe britdisc or unsubscribe britdisc Don't make up other variations, or just mail Sammy. Do it properly, and it'll all happen automatically. If you're changing mail addresses, unsubscribe from your old address by sending a mail from that account if you can. If this isn't possible, use the form: unsubscribe britdisc old@email.address which will require approval. o Send diary related stuff to Sammy, serai@csv.warwick.ac.uk o Above all, have fun! Cheers, and have a good year, one and all... Ralf" ================================================= I don't mind helping out those in a genuine difficulty, but you could help me a lot by helping yourself ... if you see what I mean ;-) Sammy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 17:30:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16541 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:28:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16518 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:28:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from asimov.dns-host.com (asimov.dns-host.com [209.235.102.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22980 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:28:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from ntli-dev28 (not-the-nmc.ntli.net [212.250.12.246]) by asimov.dns-host.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA08347 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009501bf0e85$8b9525b0$fa05750a@ntli-dev28.hook.private.cableol.net> From: "Tim Blair" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Players at Royal Holloway... Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:28:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone who plays at Royal Holloway, Egham please get in touch with me - I know you're out there, I just don't know where!!! Tim -- Tim Blair Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See - Aberystwyth Ultimate http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 4 23:55:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01591 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:53:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01586 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:53:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21517 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:53:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11YGzG-0006AD-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:53:42 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:13:30 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: SE students References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wall, Alexander P writes > it would be awesome if one of >the big SE clubs (Skunks, Mohawks, Strange Blue?) could put on an early >tournie to get the ball rolling and encourage interest. Hey, Junior Imperial College have some pretty nice fields down Cobham way (remember the Lurkers tournament?)... and running a tournament isn't really that hard (unless you try something too flash!), honest. If students can get more Uni's to recognise Ultimate as a sport with serious pitch requirements - maybe (?) the uni sports setup will actually start marking/reserving you your own pitches (a la Warwick) or even assisting you with organising your leagues and fixtures (like the inter-Uni Rugby, Football, Hockey... fixtures) Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 5 09:02:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02549 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:00:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02542 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:00:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05868 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:00:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from actix.demon.co.uk ([158.152.23.8] helo=cayman.actix1) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11YPWj-0005aR-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:00:51 +0000 Received: by CAYMAN with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:59:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Simon Hill To: "britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: regional? Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:59:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I wasn't at the AGM of course... but why would you split the tour into regional events? The primary aim was to have tourneys where the best teams would get to play each other. Supposing that 6 of the top 8 teams would play in Southern event, where's the value for Chevron? Now I'm 100% behind Regional events - but this is just repeating the situation that arose when Nationals included a regional qualifier. Why would an AGM make a decision like this? Why would an AGM even be discussing things like this? Surely this sort of thing is better decided by a small group of people (perhaps selected by DoC or the AGM)? Going well this week: one moan per day so far... I wonder if I can keep it going all week. Si - moaning bastard (no, thats not a new team name) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 5 10:21:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20725 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:20:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20714 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:20:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f12.hotmail.com [207.82.250.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13258 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:20:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 59189 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 1999 09:19:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19991005091936.59187.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:19:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hong KONG 7's - Directions Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:19:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tournament at LAWNSWOOD SCHOOL, Otley Road, Far Headingley, Capts meeting - 8.30am First game - 9am Games 50mins with 1 point cap Friday night - meet at Feast & Firkin, woodhouse Lane from 8pm onwards >From the south to Lawnswood School M1 - M621 (signposted leeds centre) - Turn off on Jct 3 ( leeds centre & Holbeck) - Follow rd to city centre - Once in centre pick up signs for University - Go past Univ (firkin on left after uni) and continue straight for approx 4 miles - Eventually you'll reach a large r/about the school pitches are just b4 on the left hand side any probs call arun/rick/ben on 0113 2249680 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 5 12:50:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29579 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:48:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29568 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:48:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from pigeon.doc.ic.ac.uk (IDENT:cWDmUssq29GEogrtwSoKipsuFR2Pm9fk@pigeon.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.5.10]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24892 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:48:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from [146.169.49.1] (helo=sync01.doc.ic.ac.uk) by pigeon.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.890 #1) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 11YT5C-0001u4-00; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:48:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:48:37 +0100 (GMT) From: Tom Coerkamp To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh beginners Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is the Edinburgh beginners tourney happening this year? If so, can someone get in contact with us as we'd like to take a couple of teams. Cheers, TC Discdoctors (Imperial College) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 5 13:32:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10205 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:30:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10190 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:30:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA28421 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:30:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 05 Oct 1999 07:30:23 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:37:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Lucy Goggin Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 07:20:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone has a contact number for Loose of TransWorld Sport fame, please can you get in touch. Sorry to bug the rest of you Cheers Wayne Albatross & Overflow Home 020 8675 9180 Work 020 7298 3365 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 5 18:07:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23614 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:06:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23606 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:06:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03212 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:06:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11YY2i-0003oc-00; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 18:06:24 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 5 Oct 99 18:06:24 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 5 Oct 99 18:06:24 +0100 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:06:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Indoors X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <117567696077@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi students So far as indoor qualifiers go I have confirmed bids for the South West (Dave Barnard, Cardiff) and the Midlands (Si Weeks, Sheffield), undoubtedly they will be sending invites out soon (hint hint). At present Mohawks are organizing the South East, but I haven't heard any more from them since they expressed an interest. Do you still want it? Unfortunately, due to mass hall bookings in Lancaster, I no-longer have anybody to organise Indoor qualifiers in Scotland and the North, so does anybody fancy it. Remember you wont have to travel for hours in a minibus and you'll get to sleep in your own bed, what more incentive do you need! Pete (student co-ordinator) Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 5 18:51:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00487 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:49:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00476 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:49:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00768 for ; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:49:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11YYiC-0004Pf-01; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 18:49:16 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 5 Oct 99 18:49:16 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 5 Oct 99 18:49:16 +0100 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:49:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student contact details X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <11761E5D578D@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk While many of you have already supplied me with your contact details, there are still more teams out there who haven't. I require a name, an address, a telephone number, and an e-mail address. Sending me this information is in your own interests, because I will then be able to inform you of forth coming tournaments, new regulations, etc etc. I still require this info. from the following student clubs; Alien Nation (Cranfield) Bears (Warwick) Disc Doctors (Imperial) Fingers 6 (Manchester) Flying Sorcerers (St' Andrews) Hulltimate (Hull) Jedi (Leeds) K-Niggets (Kingston) Mad Kows (Open University) Mohawks (Sussex) No Frills (Cardiff) Northern Lights (Durham) PDQ (Portsmouth) Phat' eds (Sheffield) Pinic in the Sky (Plymouth) Purple Haze (Loughbourgh) Shooting Stars (Dundee) Skunks (Southampton) Strange Blue (Cambridge) Super Fly (Nottingham) UWE (UWE Bristol) Birmingham Guildford Southampton Institute UWIC RESPOND NOW and avoid further public shaming. Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 06:10:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07016 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:08:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA07011 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:08:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f297.hotmail.com [207.82.251.189]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA06098 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:08:12 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 44852 invoked by uid 0); 6 Oct 1999 05:07:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991006050741.44851.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.52.253.110 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:07:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [202.52.253.110] From: "Stefan Moores" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: removal Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 05:07:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please remove perchat@hotmail.com from britdisc ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 12:04:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07000 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:01:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06984 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:01:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08257 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:01:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:59:10 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4KTXVP8R>; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:57:52 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED603@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Eligibility rules for GB Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:57:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have been trying to determine if there are any eligibilty rules for GB inclusion. Basically I need to know; Up to what age can a junior still play for GB juniors (Kev? Patch?) How long must a non-British National have been resident in the country before they can play GB (Aram? - presumably you suffered from this rule, do you know?) Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 12:13:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09908 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:12:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09883 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:12:12 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11311 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:12:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23776 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:11:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02080 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:14:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA02549 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:10:31 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:10:17 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED603@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Eligibility rules for GB MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Eligibility" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I would also be interested in knowing the rules for qualification as a Master, I had heard rumours that the 30 Year age was to be increased? Anyone wiser than me? Cliff ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Eligibility rules for GB Author: CHughes (CHughes@chelt.ac.uk) at cobo-unix-mime Date: 06/10/1999 11:57 I have been trying to determine if there are any eligibilty rules for GB inclusion. Basically I need to know; Up to what age can a junior still play for GB juniors (Kev? Patch?) How long must a non-British National have been resident in the country before they can play GB (Aram? - presumably you suffered from this rule, do you know?) Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 12:23:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13082 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:22:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13071 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:21:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.67] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11606 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:21:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA28537; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.messaging-svcs2.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id HAA02942; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id MAA28809; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:18:44 +0100 (BST) Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:18:44 +0100 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0210009D@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'HUGHES, Chris'" , "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Eligibility rules for GB Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:18:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It was two years residency when I arrived, and I don't think this has been changed. However, if Rugby is a precedent, you just need a Welsh grandfather.............. > -----Original Message----- > From: HUGHES, Chris [SMTP:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] > Sent: 06 October 1999 11:58 > To: 'BritDisc' > Subject: Eligibility rules for GB > > I have been trying to determine if there are any eligibilty rules for GB > inclusion. > > Basically I need to know; > Up to what age can a junior still play for GB juniors (Kev? Patch?) > > How long must a non-British National have been resident in the country > before they can play GB (Aram? - presumably you suffered from this rule, > do > you know?) > > Chris