From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 12:28:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14587 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:27:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14576 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:27:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11970 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:27:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11YpBy-0008OB-0K; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:25:07 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4JVL9X7P>; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:19:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF484E@lonsex02bkp> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com'" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Eligibility rules for GB Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:19:38 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It has not been increased and there is no intention (so said WFDF @ St. Andrews) in the near future to increase it either. Colin. -----Original Message----- From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com [SMTP:Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com] Sent: 06 October 1999 12:10 Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Eligibility rules for GB I would also be interested in knowing the rules for qualification as a Master, I had heard rumours that the 30 Year age was to be increased? Anyone wiser than me? Cliff ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Eligibility rules for GB Author: CHughes (CHughes@chelt.ac.uk) at cobo-unix-mime Date: 06/10/1999 11:57 I have been trying to determine if there are any eligibilty rules for GB inclusion. Basically I need to know; Up to what age can a junior still play for GB juniors (Kev? Patch?) How long must a non-British National have been resident in the country before they can play GB (Aram? - presumably you suffered from this rule, do you know?) Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 14:44:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29969 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:27:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29911 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:27:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17283 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:54:26 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA21429 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:54:26 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:54:26 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910061254.NAA21429@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 9th October 1999 BDGA Golf: Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Phone 0117 9268055 Hong Kong Sevens [2nd edition] (2 days) @ Lawnswood School, Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] THIS IS AN OUTDOOR CO-ED TOURNAMENT. Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] (0113) 217 4624 [Gump] Saturday 16th October 1999 GB practice (1 day) @ Woughton Playing Fields, Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Open to all players and non players interested in being involved in GB ultimate in any of the five divisions (Open, Women's, Mixed, Masters, Juniors). Contact Chris for directions or check the britdisc annoucement. Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Warwick University, Coventry [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 13th November 1999 Edinburgh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Paul Eastman Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Tuesday 8th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (2 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 14:53:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02005 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:31:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01883 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:31:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15488 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:24:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 13:21:58 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4KTXVQNN>; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:20:30 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED606@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Eligibility Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:20:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to Barry O'Kane with providing me with the answers. However is does contradict what appears to be said at the WFDF conference. I will try to clarify with the WFDF. Extract from the 1998 WFDF rule book available at http://www.wfdf.org/art1.htm#106 (again; thanks Barry) 105 Classification of Players: To promote fair competition, players shall be classified based upon age and sex and shall compete against other players of a like classification, or, at their discretion, in the open field of players. The following classifications shall be used: 105.01 Open Division: All players who do not qualify for any other division or choose not to compete in any other division. 105.02 Women's Division: Available only to female players. The women's division may be further subdivided into junior, master, grand master, senior grand master, or legends divisions, depending upon the number of female players who would qualify for said divisions. 105.03 Junior Division: Available to players who do not reach their 19th or subsequent birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament concludes. 105.04 Under-Twelve Division: Available to players who do not reach their 12th or subsequent birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament concludes. 105.05 Master Division: Available to players who reach at least their 35th birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament begins. Master division for Ultimate play begins at 32 years of age for men and 28 years of age for women. 105.06 Grand Master Division: Available to players who reach at least their 45th birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament begins. 105.07 Senior Grand Master Division: Available to players who reach at least their 55th birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament begins. 105.08 Legends Division: Available to players who reach at least their 65th birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament begins. 105.09 Suspension of Classification: A tournament director may suspend one or more of the divisions for a given tournament if fewer than five persons at a tournament qualify for that division. If a division is suspended, the players who would have qualified for that division shall compete in another division in which they qualify, or the open division. 105.10 Choice of Divisions: If a player qualifies for more than one division, he or she shall choose which division he or she or she or she or she or she shall compete in prior to the start of play, and shall not compete in any other division throughout the duration of the tournament. 106 National Teams 106.01 A foreigner who wishes to compete on a national team in a world championship must have lived continuously in that country for at least two consecutive years immediately prior to the tournament. 106.02 A national team may have a maximum of two "foreign" players as defined in 106.01. 106.03 A player who has lived continuously in a country for at least five consecutive years immediately prior to the tournament is no longer considered a "foreign" player on that national team's roster. 106.04 World championship organizers shall provide each national team with an official roster form on which to list each player's name and his or her nationality or "foreign" player status. This form is to be returned to the organizers prior to the tournament. So; Juniors who have their 18th Bday in 2000 (ie born in 1982) can play. Masters who have their 32 Bday in 2000 (ie born in 1968) can play. This contradicts what Colin says was stated in the WFDF conference in St Andrews (30 Bbay, born in 1970)- I will speak to Charlie Mead and confirm. Each National team can have two players who have lived in the country, and as many as we want who have lived in the country for more than five years. Production of a valid British passport will remove any foreigner status irrelevant of where you live or how long you have lived in the country. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 14:55:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01834 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:31:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01667 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:31:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from medusa.x-stream.co.uk (mail-out.x-stream.co.uk [194.247.225.135]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27396 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:30:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id OAA09815 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:30:52 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: medusa.x-stream.co.uk: smap set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(194.247.251.57) by medusa.x-stream.co.uk via smap (V2.1) id xmaa09809; Wed, 6 Oct 99 14:30:25 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BF1007.556EBF40@KEVIN>; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:30:27 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF1007.556EBF40@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Re: Eligibility rules for GB Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:30:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA01720 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Junior qualification. The rules state that to qualify for the junior division, they must be aged 18 or under as of January 1st in the year of the tournament. Or another way to look at it, that means anyone who doesn't turn 20 in the year of the tournament. This should allow (almost) everyone who is still at school to compete, and some who are in their first year at University. Kevin. |-------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | or would like free internet calls (soon to be announced) | email me, and I'll tell you how. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 14:58:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04389 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:35:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03606 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:34:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de (irafs1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.100]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26201 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:19:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de [129.13.2.181] by irafs1 with SMTP (PP); Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:19:26 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED603@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Organisation: Faculty of Informatics, University of Karlsruhe Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:21:26 +0200 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Re: Eligibility rules for GB Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Basically I need to know; >Up to what age can a junior still play for GB juniors (Kev? Patch?) Check out the WFDF web site www.wfdf.org. At http://www.wfdf.org/art1.htm#105 it says ------------------------------------------------ 105.03 Junior Division: Available to players who do not reach their 19th or subsequent birthdays during the calendar year in which the tournament concludes. ------------------------------------------------ I am not so sure though, if this is the correct. But I am in the process of having it verified. >How long must a non-British National have been resident in the country >before they can play GB (Aram? - presumably you suffered from this rule, do >you know?) At http://www.wfdf.org/art1.htm#106 it says: ------------------------------------- 106 National Teams 106.01 A foreigner who wishes to compete on a national team in a world championship must have lived continuously in that country for at least two consecutive years immediately prior to the tournament. 106.02 A national team may have a maximum of two "foreign" players as defined in 106.01. 106.03 A player who has lived continuously in a country for at least five consecutive years immediately prior to the tournament is no longer considered a "foreign" player on that national team's roster. 106.04 World championship organizers shall provide each national team with an official roster form on which to list each player's name and his or her nationality or "foreign" player status. This form is to be returned to the organizers prior to the tournament. ------------------------------------- And while we are at it, the web site for Worlds 2000 is http://www.wuc2000.org/ Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 15:37:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28790 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:35:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28764 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:35:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02214 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:35:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from trade-indemnity.demon.co.uk ([158.152.139.88] helo=london1.eulergroup.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Ys8Y-000CKT-0K; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:33:47 +0000 Received: by LONDON1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4JVL9Y1N>; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:13:12 +0100 Message-ID: <3FEEBE10F61BD2119B0100805FB7A2E4AF4850@lonsex02bkp> From: "Wagstaff, Colin [euler:eti-lon]" To: "'HUGHES, Chris'" , "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Eligibility Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:13:18 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Masters who have their 32 Bday in 2000 (ie born in 1968) can play. This contradicts what Colin says was stated in the WFDF conference in St Andrews (30 Bbay, born in 1970)- I will speak to Charlie Mead and confirm. Charlie Mead was not at the meeting. (Does Charlie even sit on the WFDF Ultimate Committee?) Try Dan Ogstrom (spelling????) from Sweden, who's chair of that Committee. I can't find his email address! Maybe the BUF secretary can furnish us with such detail..........Ben, are you there? Colin. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 6 18:44:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12172 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:43:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12155 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:43:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from pa.scotland.net (pa2.scotland.net [194.247.65.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25437 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:43:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [148.176.239.50] (helo=mcg.gla.ac.uk) by pa.scotland.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Yv64-0006N3-00; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:43:25 +0100 Message-ID: <37FB89B3.326F679B@mcg.gla.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 18:41:08 +0100 From: Lucy Smallwood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scotdisc@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Calling players Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Mud Culture need a couple of players for this weekend at Hong Kong Sevens in Leeds. We mainly need women, but we are also happy to have men. Please contact me on lucy@mcg.gla.ac.uk or 0973 955 372, if you are interested. Lucy Smallwood Mud Culture/Gael Force From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 7 09:54:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15873 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:53:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15846 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:53:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25635 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:53:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:52:59 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05446 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:52:14 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB practice Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:49:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those going to GB practice on the 16th october. You may or may not be aware that as yet no decision has been made as to how GB teams are going to be managed next year. There will be a meeting (and voting) at the lunch break of this practice to try to decide how and who will run the GB teams next year. The idea is that as all the people there will have an interest/experience in this, it should be easier to come to a decision. This is not just another meeting about GB- It is likely that the BUF exec will approve whatever decision is reached. There will also be a neutral chair to this discussion that will not be making any proposals or standing up for any posts (er, me). However, as Chris Hughes requested a couple of weeks ago, it does require people to present their ideas on how GB teams should be managed. It also needs people that are interested in being involved with management of any of the GB teams to speak up now. So, if you have any thoughts on how GB should be managed, or want to get involved in the runnning of GB teams, let chris or myself know now. Please could you pass this request to any interested parties not on britdisc. Many thanks Raf (FTM) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 8 11:32:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10994 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:30:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10985 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:30:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29923 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:30:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.233]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: <008101bf1178$0608a200$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED606@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Eligibility Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:29:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk their 35th birthdays during the calendar year in > which the tournament begins. Master division for Ultimate play > begins at 32 years of age for men and 28 years of > can I just confirm that you now have to be 32 in the age of the tournament to play for masters? it has gone up from 30 then? if that's true - D'oh!! Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 8 11:49:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16680 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:48:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16652 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:48:08 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008101bf1178$0608a200$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED606@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:50:49 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Eligibility Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul Meaney writes: >> Master division for Ultimate play >> begins at 32 years of age for men and 28 years of >> > > can I just confirm that you now have to be 32 in the age of the >tournament to play for masters? > > it has gone up from 30 then? > > if that's true - D'oh!! Hold on to your zimmer frames (elderly) boys & girls, this issue is being clarified with the relevant folks in WFDF - it may well be a publishing error, but either way the details will be confirmed on britdisc in the next few days! Cheers Sam (still concerned despite being beyond the age of dispute ... in body if not in mind ;-) Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 8 13:27:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19487 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:24:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19460 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:24:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk (alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk [148.197.254.14]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14082 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:24:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from Au02.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk (au02.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk [148.197.170.17]) by alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA01717 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:24:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from AU02/SpoolDir by Au02.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Oct 99 13:24:32 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by AU02 (Mercury 1.44); 8 Oct 99 13:24:11 GMT0BST From: "hanna kaisa lanki" Organization: University of Portsmouth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:24:10 GMT0BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Remove Message-ID: <1B50E0B42E5@Au02.nwservers.iso.port.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Plese, remove hss71019@port.ac.uk from the list. Thank you. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 07:49:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14842 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14837 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16483 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA07967 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910110647.HAA07967@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 16th October 1999 GB practice (1 day) @ Woughton Playing Fields, Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Open to all players and non players interested in being involved in GB ultimate in any of the five divisions (Open, Women's, Mixed, Masters, Juniors). Contact Chris for directions or check the britdisc annoucement. Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Warwick University, Coventry [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 13th November 1999 Edinburgh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Paul Eastman Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Tuesday 8th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (2 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 10:32:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13663 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:29:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13589 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:29:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.79]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA28235 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:29:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 28351 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 1999 09:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19991011092836.28350.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.197.52 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:28:36 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.197.52] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: In search of No Frill Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 02:28:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to culter Britdisc, however the contact address I have is incorrect. Could anyone from No Frills get in touch. Vanessa ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 12:33:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19420 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:32:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19413 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:32:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f307.hotmail.com [207.82.251.220]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27362 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:32:10 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3423 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 1999 11:31:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19991011113134.3422.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:31:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: HK7's - Results Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:31:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Results from the HK7's 1. Stockport Viaducts 2. His and Hers 3. Accrington Stanley 4. Superfly 5. Mud Culture 6. Oxgenders 7. MMJ 8. Slipdisc 9. Substance Abuse (Plate winners) 10. Hulltimate 11. Whiplash 12. More MMJ 13. Albatross (Spirit Winners) 14. Jedi Children Lost property - White astro-boots/pair of air walk trainers/Grey North Face jacket left at Arun's house TFC Arun ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 12:33:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19444 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:32:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19435 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:32:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f330.hotmail.com [207.82.250.109]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA06922 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:32:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 8403 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 1999 11:31:43 -0000 Message-ID: <19991011113143.8402.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:31:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: HK7's - Results Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:31:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Results from the HK7's 1. Stockport Viaducts 2. His and Hers 3. Accrington Stanley 4. Superfly 5. Mud Culture 6. Oxgenders 7. MMJ 8. Slipdisc 9. Substance Abuse (Plate winners) 10. Hulltimate 11. Whiplash 12. More MMJ 13. Albatross (Spirit Winners) 14. Jedi Children Lost property - White astro-boots/pair of air walk trainers/Grey North Face jacket left at Arun's house TFC Arun ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 12:35:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20106 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:34:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20088 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27835 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:34:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from tactful.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@tactful.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.171]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id MAA16288 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by tactful.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA04056 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:34:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: tactful.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:34:08 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Update. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, So far we have recived money from; Cupid Stunts * 1 Hulltimate * 1 Phat Eds * 3 Sheffield Hallam * 1 Falling Skies * 1 Jedi * 2 Flying Sorcerers * 3 Mohawks * 1 Shooting Stars * 3 16 teams entered so far so 16 spaces left althoug I've had a lot of intrest over e-mail. Please can all teams send their money as soon as possible to guarentee spaces and allow us to organise accomodation. If there is any one who thinks we should have their money but is not on the list please let me know. Entries are 90GBP payable to EUUFC sent to; Ro-Sham-Bo c/o 1F2 44 Warrender Park Rd Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Thanks alot Paul Eastman, President RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 12:38:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21672 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:37:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21654 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:37:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f323.hotmail.com [207.82.250.248]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA28838 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:37:55 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 86409 invoked by uid 0); 11 Oct 1999 11:37:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19991011113723.86408.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:37:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate five-a-side footy Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:37:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Five-a-side footy has been booked for th 13th November this year, onee again only eight places of which four have gone, don't miss out enter now - cost #50 per team Janitors ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 16:50:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14139 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:49:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14120 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:49:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02544 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:49:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11ahhM-0005UY-00; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:49:16 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 11 Oct 99 16:49:16 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 11 Oct 99 16:49:01 +0100 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:48:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student contact details, the third time of asking X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <12042AFD3B14@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Had a great response to last weeks public shaming, but there are a few teams out there who haven't replied I require a name, an address, a telephone number, and an e-mail address. Sending me this information is in your own interests, because I will then be able to inform you of forth coming tournaments, new regulations, etc etc. I still require this info. from the following student clubs; Disc Doctors (Imperial) K-Niggets (Kingston) PDQ (Portsmouth) Purple Haze (Loughbourgh) Super Fly (Nottingham) I accidently deleted your e-mail so could you send me your details again UWE (UWE Bristol) Birmingham Southampton Institute UWIC RESPOND NOW and avoid further public shaming. Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 11 18:03:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03634 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:02:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03625 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:02:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09981 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:02:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.233]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:02:00 +0100 Message-ID: <001401bf140a$36eb1df0$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: MAsters eligiility.. Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:01:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF1412.98A65E30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF1412.98A65E30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable any word on what the age is? Sammy? Anyone? basically if I can't make masters then I can go ahead and organise = an indoor training session. Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: = p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF1412.98A65E30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
    any word on what the = age=20 is?
 
    Sammy? = Anyone?
 
    basically if I can't = make=20 masters then I can go ahead and organise an indoor training=20 session.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF1412.98A65E30-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 09:12:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28919 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:11:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28907; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:11:43 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <008101bf1178$0608a200$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED606@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:14:27 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Eligibility Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sam Neilson wrote on 8/10/99: >Hold on to your zimmer frames (elderly) boys & girls, this issue is being >clarified with the relevant folks in WFDF - it may well be a publishing >error, but either way the details will be confirmed on britdisc in the next >few days! ... and as promised here the edited highlights of recent WFDF e-mail discussions: "The age for masters for Germany and beyond will be 30 [... or older, obviously - and in further clarification ...] Womens Masters age is the same as Men: [must turn at least] 30 in the year of the tournament. Since 1998 the official age for Juniors [includes] those who 'turn 19 in the year of the tournament' [which is the upper age limit]. Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee +44-121-449-3382 (home) +44-121-384-7482 (work&fax) +44-(0)802-321-710 (mobile)" Anyone who is interested in the fuller details behind the apparent confusion can e-mail either myself or Charlie directly. Meanwhile, the statements above will be codified and entered onto the web version of the official WFDF Handbook (overseen by Dan "Stork" Roddick). Cheers Sam Neilson [Not a WFDF official, just a rules and regulations busy-body ;-) ] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 09:29:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02849 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:28:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02839 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:28:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12399 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:28:42 +0100 (BST) From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA03404; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:28:41 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <09F9A715BB72D011A6800000F822D242040EC6DF@gb-chw-mail2.charnwood.gb.astra.com> To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to GB practice Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:28:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yep, trying to scab a lift again from anyone going from Leicester/Nottingham to Milton Keynes and from Milton Keynes to London at the end of the day. Cheers Suze ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644924 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645574 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 12:33:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29368 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:32:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29317; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:32:47 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:35:13 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, BDGA Mailing List From: Dave Neilson Subject: World Ultimate & GUTS Championships 2000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi britdisc & BDGA readers I have been asked if GB will be able to field a Guts team for the forthcoming WUGC2000 in Germany and thought it worth sending out an early call to players across the country to find out who would be interested. As far as I am aware GB has never sent a 'Guts-only' team to a major European or World championships which has caused some tricky scheduling problems for those competing in both Ultimate and Guts. In an attempt to reduce the impact such 'doubling up' may have on the Guts event, the following PRELIMINARY statement has been issued by WFDF (although not yet ratified, the logic seems fairly sensible): "For Ultimate players to play Guts, their ultimate team must already have 12 dedicated ultimate players. The 13th+ players will likely be allowed to play Guts as well. The Guts teams will need to have 6 players minimum. For example, an ultimate team will need to have 18 players to field a guts team, 12 dedicated to ultimate and 6 additional to play Guts. I suppose the 6 guts players could come from many different teams, but there will be schedule conflicts I suspect. Dave "Nez" Nesbitt WFDF Guts Chairman" Please let me know if you would like to be considered for the GB Guts team - if we have enough interest, I guess we can hold trials! Remember that this is open to *all* players regardless of age, sex or preferred disc sport! Cheers Sam Neilson GB Guts Manager. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 13:22:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13948 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:21:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13911; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:21:22 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:24:04 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, BDGA Mailing List From: Dave Neilson Subject: World Ultimate & GUTS Championships 2000 [2] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi britdisc & BDGA readers Further to my last posting, please check out the excellent website devoted to Guts if you are in any doubt as to what exactly I am blathering on about! http://www.sas.it.mtu.edu/~dkwalika/frisbee/ Cheers Sam Neilson GB Guts Manager. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 14:36:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06331 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:34:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06295 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:34:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f176.hotmail.com [216.32.181.176]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00958 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:34:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 90894 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 1999 13:34:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19991012133402.90893.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.102.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 06:34:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.102.3] From: "David Eastman" To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: North London Indoor Ultimate Practices Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:34:02 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Playthings Ultimate Club are starting up our usual indoor practice in the Sobell Centre this Thursday 14th, at 9.30pm. Nearest tube is Holloway Road. It'll cost you £4.50/£3.00 for the hour; practices will initially be open with some control on numbers if necessary in the following weeks. For a map and further details, check out www.popstar.demon.co.uk. David Eastman - Playthings ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 12 22:18:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27335 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:18:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27329 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:18:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22073 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:17:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11b9Iz-000Km1-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:17:59 +0000 Message-ID: <7a5DYUA+x5A4Ewvr@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:39:26 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: South London Oudoor Ultimate Practices? References: <19991012133402.90893.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <19991012133402.90893.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I had heard rumours that the Tooting sessions might be at Battersea this year... Now I hear another rumour that the Tooting sessions have already restarted... Could anyone that knows for sure clarify this for me, please? Days, Times, Venues (costs?) would be most useful. Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 13 09:44:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05734 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:43:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05712 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:43:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14602 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:43:31 +0100 (BST) Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4YZVT275>; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:43:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B70C715@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: South London Oudoor Ultimate Practices? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:43:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Now I hear another rumour that the Tooting sessions have already > restarted... The Clapham Bullfrogs' Monday night Tooting session has indeed already started. However, due to the excessive number of people showing up last season we have made the decision to make this a closed session, and not to advertise it. We were getting nearly 30 people a night and the quality of the practice was significantly diminished. We have started a mailing list for those invited and have discussed how to limit attendance. If you would like to to be considered for one of the few remaining slots - please email aflores@lehman.com, he's our official vetter of applicants. Please do not turn up without mailing Aram first - this will only make things hard. Cyasall PieBoy DoughBoy's Master Eater. PS - David from First Touch, please mail me ASAP. Thnx. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 13 19:39:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26273 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:39:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26268 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:39:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.wds.co.uk (mail.wds.co.uk [193.115.216.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19421 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:39:38 +0100 (BST) Received: by mail.wds.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4P41GC39>; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:49:15 +0100 Message-ID: <818506E13AECD111B65E00600809E28F615F22@mail.wds.co.uk> From: Adriano Vitali To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pie tin Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:49:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am looking for a picture of an original Frisbie pie tin for a presentation. Anybody out there got a scanned picture? I've been browsing the web for the past 2 hours and haven't come up with anything. I'm giving up and you are my last resort. Help!! VITO From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 07:35:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16360 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:34:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16355 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:34:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA23773 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:34:39 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 28713 invoked from network); 14 Oct 1999 06:34:34 -0000 Received: from useraw07.uk.uudial.com (HELO dial.pipex.com) (62.188.138.153) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 1999 06:34:34 -0000 Message-ID: <38057743.72E46BE9@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:25:07 +0100 From: Richard Robert Hims Reply-To: richard.hims@herts.tec.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BRITDISC Subject: Lift to GB practice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes, another person looking to scrounge a lift, from North [well, North of] London. Any offers appreciated. Please reply to me at work [richard.hims@herts.tec.co.uk] if you've got car space and would be willing to assist. Thanx in advance, -- Rich, Janitors rich8@mail.com richard.hims@herts.tec.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 09:23:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01160 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:23:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01132 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:23:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f262.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00974 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:23:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 31425 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 1999 08:22:28 -0000 Message-ID: <19991014082228.31424.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.41 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:22:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.41] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, NoFrillsS@cardiff.ac.uk Subject: Fwd: Women's tournament Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:22:27 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The last Women's tournament of 1999 October 30th/31st Venue: Warwick University Party/Fancy Dress, to be confirmed. Accommodation available. Cost Forty Five pounds per team, Twenty pounds non-refundable deposit to be paid to secure your place. Deposit deadline. 18th October There are only 8 places available. If you are an individual player or a group that can not form a whole team, please also get in touch and I will do my best to accommodate you/your group. 1st teams will be given priority over 2nd teams until the deposit deadline date. Please send cheques made payable to: Vanessa White 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Entry Form ………………………………………………………………………………………… Women Tournament Entry Form Warwick Uni. 30th and 31st October 1999 Team Name Team Contact Name Address Tel. No. Email. Please approximate how many players you will have. Please approximate how many will need accommodation. Vanessa White BUF Women Co-Ordinator nessa_white@hotmail.com 020 8663 4856 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 09:25:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01918 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:25:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01904 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:25:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail3.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01291 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:25:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from wing2.herald.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.0.226] ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11bgCT-0003Hw-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:25:25 +0100 Received: from httpd by wing2.herald.ox.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11bgCU-0008N0-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:25:26 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) From: Lucy Moore Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:25:26 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Wrexham team Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there a frisbee team that practises currently near Wrexham/Shrewsbury&if so when and where? Thanks Laura James (SB) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 12:20:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25174 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:19:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25155 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:19:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08969 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:19:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:16:36 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4M3CSFTD>; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:15:00 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED61C@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Indoors and Tournament Tax Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:14:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is probably a good time for reminding all of you organising an indoor tournament, that tournament tax for indoor events is EIGHT pounds per team. You can eithe r send the cheques to the BUF PO Box, or you can send it to me, or Ian Stebbing. Please remember to state which tournament and when. Make cheques payable to the B.U.F. (not to me - but nice idea Cliff :-) ) Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 12:25:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27093 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:24:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27058 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:24:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25937 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:24:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:22:07 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4M3CSFTY>; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:20:27 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED61D@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Lost Property Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:20:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have a large pile of lost property in my garage that will not be there for very much longer (Save The Children's shop will get its annual monster donation). But as per usual there a large number of items that you would think people would miss; boots (at least 2 pairs) trainers Flameboy cap - who ever mailed me and asked for it mail me again and we can arrange a hand over ONE TURF BOOT LOST AT NATIONALS - Bob; does this ring a bell? If you have lost anything over the last year then mail me by the end of the weekend and I will trawl the pile; on Tuesday the rest is going. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 12:38:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01212 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01196 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27657 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:11 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00579 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:36:35 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Yet more on GB Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:33:21 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those going to GB practice on the 16th october. The poor response to the request below suggests that most people who are aiming to play in Germany next year don't mind who selects teams or runs practices. Currently it looks as though it may well be decided by default- If everyones happy with that then fine. If you're not, I suggest you contact me now and offer your services. Rafi >> You may or may not be aware that as yet no decision has been made as to how GB teams are going to be managed next year. There will be a meeting (and voting) at the lunch break of this practice to try to decide how and who will run the GB teams next year. The idea is that as all the people there will have an interest/experience in this, it should be easier to come to a decision. This is not just another meeting about GB- It is likely that the BUF exec will approve whatever decision is reached. There will also be a neutral chair to this discussion that will not be making any proposals or standing up for any posts (er, me). However, as Chris Hughes requested a couple of weeks ago, it does require people to present their ideas on how GB teams should be managed. It also needs people that are interested in being involved with management of any of the GB teams to speak up now. So, if you have any thoughts on how GB should be managed, or want to get involved in the runnning of GB teams, let chris or myself know now. Please could you pass this request to any interested parties not on britdisc. Many thanks Raf (FTM) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 14:54:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13751 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:53:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13718 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:53:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f329.hotmail.com [207.82.250.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA16583 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:53:21 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 39928 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 1999 13:52:44 -0000 Message-ID: <19991014135244.39927.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.152.72.81 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:52:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.152.72.81] From: "Arun - Janitors" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate 5-a-side footy Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:52:43 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to the fact that England will now be playing Scotland on the 13th Nov, the date booked for the 5-a-side footy tournament has been postponed until the 11th Dec. All teams need to confirm entry again - only 8 places(4 already taken) Cost £50 send cheques to - 42 Richmond Mt, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 1DF made payable to 'mild mannered janitors' Sorry for any inconvenience Cheers Janitors ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 15:28:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25518 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:28:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25501 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:28:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.62]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA20854 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:28:08 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 93372 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 1999 14:27:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19991014142733.93371.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:27:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: mmjanitors@hotmail.com, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Ultimate 5-a-side footy Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:27:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Arun: >Due to the fact that England will now be playing Scotland on the 13th Nov, >the date booked for the 5-a-side footy tournament has been postponed until >the 11th Dec. >Sorry for any inconvenience Not at all mate, hope we don't inconvenience you when Kevin's Kiddies take a waaapin' from Craig Broon's Tartan Army! ;) See you at beginners (with a pitchside radio!) Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 15:58:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06186 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:57:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06166 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:57:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26363 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:57:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11bmJl-0003Pj-00; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:57:21 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 14 Oct 99 15:57:21 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 14 Oct 99 15:57:14 +0100 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:57:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Regional team finals X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <37892524B9@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As the date for the regional team finals is appraoching and the SE are as yet without a team, it has been suggested that we moove the fianls back into the next millenium. According to the events diary the 25th of March and the 1st of April are both free dates. What do people think? Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 15 08:39:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22781 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:39:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22774 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:39:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from datamonitor.com (gateway.datamonitor.com [193.122.152.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20454 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:39:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from larch.datamonitor.com ([192.168.128.4]) by gateway.datamonitor.com with ESMTP id <115217>; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:38:41 +0100 Received: by LARCH with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4MH47BDW>; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:34:02 +0100 Message-ID: <996AEB00DA48D311A2780008C75B6189184189@LARCH> From: Sarah Gibbons To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Milton Keynes Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:33:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there anyone out there with carspace who's driving to Milton Keynes from london tomorrow am? Cheers Sarah Gibbons Senior Sales - Europe Tel: 0044 207 675 7286 Fax:0044 207 316 0630 sgibbons@datamonitor.com http://www.datamonitor.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 15 10:32:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16235 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:31:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16212 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:31:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01114 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:31:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Fri Oct 15 02:30:56 1999 To: ak@transeda.co.uk Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:30:56 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Fluid Druids Mailing List" , "BritDisc" , "GB Open Mailing List" X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: [reminder] GB Practice details/directions, etc X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk People keep asking *me*, so here is is again... HUGHES, Chris From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. >From South West and Oxford via A421 A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. --- Wayne Retter at home: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk 0181-658-3408 mobile: 07970-903420 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 15 10:34:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17071 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:34:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17054 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25873 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:31:16 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4M3CSJ4S>; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:29:53 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41337ED628@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: GB Practice Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:29:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those who didn't get the directions, or have forgotten / lost them START 10:30am, so be there for 10:00 Chris Directions To Woughton Park; Directions are as follows; from M1(South) or Bedford/Cambridge via A421 Exit at junc.13. Take A421 towards MK & Buckingham, this becomes Standing Way once you're in MK. Stay on Standing Way. About 1/3 of a mile after Kents Hill Roundabout(its signposted) turn left towards Woughton Park and then immediately right to pass under the dual carriageway, then immediately right again into the club's drive. signposts read "Woughton Playing Fields".(The club is clearly visible on the right hand side of the road from Standing Way but there is no right turn off the dual carriageway) >From M1(North) or Bedford/Cambridge via A428 Exit at junc.14. At exit roundabout turn right onto Childs Way. At second roundabout turn right on to Standing Way. Follow directions as above from Kents Hill roundabout. >From South West and Oxford via A421 A421 is called Standing Way upon entering MK, stay on Standing Way. About 500 metres after it crosses the A4146 (its a messy two roundabout system) take a left turn on to Newport Road then immediately right as if to go under the dual carriageway, the entrance to the Fields is on the left just before going under the carriageway. It should be signposted as Woughton Playing fields. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 15 11:09:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28401 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:09:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28389 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:09:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02193 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:09:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:09:12 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA16315 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:08:23 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB meet- practice and meeting Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:05:10 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those going to GB practice tomorrow. Schedule for practice is likely to be along the lines of play 10.30-12.30, followed by lunch and meeting, then more play 1.30-3.30. Expect to be finished by 4pm. Proposed Agenda for meeting Scope/objectives- Reach decision on management structure and personnel to allow GB teams to excel at WUGC. This is purely an exercise in target group (ie likely GB players) reaching a concensus on what they would like. Any decision reached will be put forward to BUF exec for approval. The meeting will take 45 mins. Please keep in mind: (1) There are no set rules for this meeting- it is in effect free to run its own course. (2) propose and agree on what you're prepared to commit to do (i.e. no point in suggesting playing every day if you can't make it). Below is a suggestion, having seen the proposals of how it would be best to achieve the objective. Problem 1: management structure The proposals I've seen have been similar in a lot of respects. Therefore there is little to be gained by comparing one against the other. Instead, i've drawn below what I consider to be a fair summary of all the issues raised, and suggest each is evaluated on its own merits. (1) Squad Boss- All the proposals have proposed one person to take overall charge (in umbrella fashion) of all the GB squads. (except Aram's, which suggests one man and one woman) [I suggest we vote to determine approval of this] Duties of Squad Boss need to be considered, suggestions so far have been : -Structure training in all divisions -creating/upkeep playbook used by all divs -fitness schemes -devise drills -outline aims and goals of squad [All sich, Chris H, Aram & Si H (possibly) ] -purely logistical role (booking training, sorting kit, etc)[sammy] -any others? [Suggest we consider what the role of squad boss may be and try and reach agreement on which duties are in and which are out] (2) Division managers- again most proposals suggest having division managers. [suggest we vote to determine approval of this] Duties of managers need to be considered, suggestions so far have been: -help squad boss to develop ideas /strategies [sammy] -implement squad boss' ideas etc [sich] -any others? [Suggest we consider what role of division managers may be and try and reach agreement on which duties are in and which are out] (3) Selecting teams- who is going to select teams? -Squad boss and division manager [sich] -Division managers alone [sammy] -other proposals are vague on this [Suggest we have a brief discussion on this and then vote] (4) Practicing -regionalise (weekly or fortnightly) with monthly squad sessions [Ian Stebbing, Aram] - same, but only until february [Chris Hughes] [Suggest we briefly discuss what people can commit to and vote] (5) Timing of selection/ eligibility. -Late [Aram, Ian] - no movement between squads 4 months prior [sich] - several people object to players who have not made the open/women to being considered for co-ed/masters [Jeff J, Ian] [Suggest if we've got this far, we let elected personnel decide this, so propose we move on] Problem 2- Election of posts Hopefully by now we would have a number of posts with outline descriptions. [Suggest people volunteer for these posts, so that we could take a vote] so far: Jeff has volunteered to be involved with co-ed Aram, and Sammy as overall boss (possibly). Other business- David MacKay has volunteered to help with master's communication. Kevin lowe has volunteered to help with fitness, particularly assessment. I hope this meets averyones approval. May I remind you this is just my suggestion of how the meeting should progress. If you disagree with the agenda I suggest you say so at the start of the meeting. I will not be discusing this on britdisc today (as I need to work). Rafi (FTM) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 15 15:51:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23464 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:49:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23446 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:49:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from reseller.netlink.co.uk (reseller.netlink.co.uk [194.88.140.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04441 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:49:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 93765 invoked from network); 15 Oct 1999 14:48:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO SNOWHITE) (212.56.95.30) by mpop.netlink.co.uk with SMTP; 15 Oct 1999 14:48:30 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Pete Harvey" To: Subject: lift from MK to leicester on sat Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:48:22 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1724.B5B765E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1724.B5B765E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit am looking to get from MK to Leicester after GB, anyone help? me love you long time... Harv ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1724.B5B765E0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IhYOAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAAM8HCgAPAA8AMAAAAAUAMwEB A5AGACgFAAAlAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAB4AcAAB AAAAIQAAAGxpZnQgZnJvbSBNSyB0byBsZWljZXN0ZXIgb24gc2F0AAAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG/ FxxTL5DZlfCDDxHTm1jIdE9Pql4AAAIBHQwBAAAAGwAAAFNNVFA6SEFSVkVZQEJBQ0tTUElOLkNP LlVLAAALAAEOAAAAAEAABg4AkI9GHBe/AQIBCg4BAAAAGAAAAAAAAAAtvlHSKSLTEaZZAKAkL/y8 woAAAAsAHw4BAAAAAgEJEAEAAAC8AAAAuAAAAPQAAABMWkZ1S25A3gMACgByY3BnMTI1JjIA+Atg bmcB0DU3TwH3AqQD4wIAY2gKwHOwZXQwIAcTAoB9CoGSdgiQd2sLgGQ0DGAOYwBQCwMLtSBhbSAF CQBvEmFnIHRvIFpnETAgA1IF0EsUckz2ZQ3gB5B0BJATwAGAFhF4R0IsCqIKhAqAAHB5AQIgZSBo ZWxwP7cW2geAE/F2F+AXsHUT8VsUUgdxLhpgFtpICsB2CxbUEeEAHDALAAGACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAMAA4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAAAAAAAwAHgAggBgAA AAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAUoUAACdqAQAeAAmACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAAAAQA AAA5LjAAHgAKgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AC4AIIAYAAAAA AMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAAyACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAA AQAAAAEAAAAAAAAACwANgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAgoUAAAEAAAALADqACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAPIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwA9gAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAALAFWACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAGhQAAAAAA AAMAVoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAAAgH4DwEAAAAQAAAALb5R0iki0xGmWQCg JC/8vAIB+g8BAAAAEAAAAC2+UdIpItMRplkAoCQv/LwCAfsPAQAAAKoAAAAAAAAAOKG7EAXlEBqh uwgAKypWwgAAUFNUUFJYLkRMTAAAAAAAAAAATklUQfm/uAEAqgA32W4AAABEOlxEb2N1bWVudHMg YW5kIFNldHRpbmdzXFBldGUgSGFydmV5XE15IERvY3VtZW50c1xMb2NhbCBTZXR0aW5nc1xBcHBs aWNhdGlvbiBEYXRhXE1pY3Jvc29mdFxPdXRsb29rXG91dGxvb2sucHN0AAAAAwD+DwUAAAADAA00 /TcAAAIBfwABAAAANQAAADxOREJCS0dGSkNOQk9IRlBOTkZKT0VFTUZDQ0FBLmhhcnZleUBiYWNr c3Bpbi5jby51az4AAAAAAwAGEGCbgU8DAAcQRwAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAAEgA AABBTUxPT0tJTkdUT0dFVEZST01NS1RPTEVJQ0VTVEVSQUZURVJHQixBTllPTkVIRUxQP01FTE9W RVlPVUxPTkdUSU1FSEFSVgD9/Q== ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF1724.B5B765E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 15 15:55:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25271 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:54:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25254 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:54:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02590; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:54:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from fas2144.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.206.138]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id PAA12657; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:54:16 +0100 (BST) From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: "Brit Disc (human)" , BritDisc Subject: UWE Ultimate Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:56:57 +0100 (British Summer Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, new term, new committee and new team. Therefore could we please have any information you can give us about how to affiliate with you as we are keen to get started. Yours sincerely Phil (club secretary at UWE) Address: 1A Averay Road Stapleton Bristol BS16 1BL Tel. (0117)952 1561 Thanks. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Oct 17 22:23:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21260 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:21:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21248 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:21:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05604 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:21:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11cxkT-0004OK-0K; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:21:51 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:21:29 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: Fluid Druids Mailing List From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Contacting Chris Hughes MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone that needs to contact Chris Hughes (BUF Director of Competitions) over the next 6 (six) weeks or so will have to do so by TELEPHONE. His home number is 01452-380529 He'll be housebound and in plaster from ankle to thigh, and thus unable to make it to his email at work, due to an injury(*) attained at the GB training session on Saturday. Wayne * injuries sustained: 1) Right knee - a Cruciate Ligament (the one that attaches "straight across, to the centre of the Tibia"?) is now attached only to a small piece of bone that is no longer attached to the Tibia 2) a Compression fracture at top of the Tibia, on the outside of the right knee, has left small fragments of bone a little too close to the sinuvial fluid sac for comfort. Chris Berry, I'd suggest that you give Mr Hughes a ring, and apologise! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter on behalf of Chris Hughes From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Oct 17 23:01:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25401 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:00:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25395 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:00:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f143.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.143]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA06743 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:00:27 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 65515 invoked by uid 0); 17 Oct 1999 21:59:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991017215941.65514.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.152.248.177 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:59:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [158.152.248.177] From: "Vanessa White" To: altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk, spl7ekb@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk, hannah@ultimate19.freeserve.co.uk, hjss@richardsbutler.com, kawij@hotmail.com, badbird@cwcom.net, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, pyuni@csv.warwick.ac.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, NofrillsS@cardiff.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, mohawks@hotmail.com, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk, Wpb198@soton.ac.uk Subject: Women's Tournament Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:59:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Women Tournament 30th and 31st October 1999 Confirmed Teams: Bears Squaws Fierce Skunks Cardiff Angels Disco Inferno MMJ Women Organics IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUIRED. Final numbers must be received by me by Friday 22nd October. ACCOMMODATION If you need floor space please let me know numbers for Friday and Saturday night. (I will not be able to provide accommodation last minute) PARTY There will be two venues; the Varsity Pub (food is available) on campus and the Union which is holding the Halloween party. If you wish to attend the Halloween party (fancy dress is optional) you will need to let me know numbers as I will have to book and pay for the tickets in advance. You will not be able to get tickets to the party on the day. Final numbers must be received by me by the 22nd (this Friday) October. Cost for the party. 4pounds Student, you will need your NUS card. 5pounds NON-Student please bring identification. For all non-students I will need a list of names intending to go to the party as they will be added to the guest list and you will only need to show some ID, driving licence or Credit Card to get it. Please send cheque to Vanessa White. 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN. SO BY FRIDAY 22nd. Numbers for accommodation (I will not be able to provide accommodation last minute!) Numbers for Party (Including list of non-students that intend to go to the party.) You will not be able to get tickets on the day. Vanessa White ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Oct 17 23:47:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29705 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:45:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29691 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:45:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08248 for ; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:45:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from couplehood.demon.co.uk ([212.229.115.75]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11cz3n-000Cxo-0A; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:45:52 +0000 Message-ID: <0JId1BAzElC4EweH@couplehood.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:44:03 +0100 To: "Wall, Alexander P" , tim@badpen.com, student-ultimate@egroups.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Adeline and Keen Reply-To: fonseka-koon@couplehood.demon.co.uk Subject: SE students - The Story As It Actually Stands In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ALL RIGHT .... It has taken a while but I think I have a plan for The London team and how it might fit in with the regionals. There will be a Friendly Fires Tournament on the 3rd of November, in the fields south of Regent's Park (which is a Weds, I know) open to students from London AND the SE area if you care to make it to town. The tournament fee is a pittance at 15 pounds per team, which includes one game disc. Apart from the sheer madness and fun that is the Friendly Fires Experience (read: half arsed, seat of the pants organization and lots of embarrassed smiles) we will be selecting players for "D.O.A." which is the so-called London Super Team - an unfortunate phrase that I coined, but there you are. The WE doing the choosing is, thus far, me (Adam Keen), Jolyon Thompson, Chris Berry and Alex @Junior (if you want the responsibility). I would also invite Tim Blair to come and add some diversity to the proceedings. The invitation extends to Spud if he would only forgive me for standing him up and call me sometime ... Anyway, we have three teams playing on Nov. 3 so far: PDQ, Disk Doctors, and Under Cover Lovers, with Kings College as highly probable. We are expecting at least 6 teams and hopefully 8 teams to respond ASAP with definites and cheques. In case of rain or other cognate disasters, we will try and reschedule it for the following week or provide refunds as appropriate. All responses should be directed to : london_ultimate@breathemail.net, or london_ultimate@hotmail.com, preferably the former. As it is a one day tournament, and we are trying to fit in as many games as possible with as many different teams, the games will be short (about an hour) and will start early and on time (naive, I know, but we are determined!!) Final tournament details will be posted soon, hopefully by the last few days of October. Help from team captains, or anyone for that matter, is greatly appreciated and needed NOW. You might all find it quite reassuring that I am NOT putting the tournament together personally, instead someone with a great deal of experience (40-team regional tourneys in the US etc.) will be putting the mechanical bits together, thanks Ward! Nevertheless, EVERYONE AND ANYONE who can make it to Regent's Park on a Weds from 9am up until 6pm is welcome, and anyone who intends to play for the London Super Team / SE Regionals should also make the trip. Otherwise, how will we know who you are? Cheers and Beers, Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers First Touch D.O.A. P.S. I am out of the country from Weds 20th until Tues following, so don't expect a reply from me in the interim. In message , Wall, Alexander P writes >SE Ultimate reps, > >There's been a whole lot of talk about the setting up of 'Super Team' >tournies, and the possible breakaway of London from the SE region . . . > >This season, I'd really like to see SE teams getting a march on the North so >it would be good to have a couple of early games to get moving, and see >where we're at with reference to 'Super' teams and London. Adam Keen has >clearly been busy sorting out stuff in London, with a Friendly Fire tournie >and Spud is cracking on with the League . . it would be awesome if one of >the big SE clubs (Skunks, Mohawks, Strange Blue?) could put on an early >tournie to get the ball rolling and encourage interest. > >Best of luck for the new season, > >Alex Wall >Discdoctors, UTI -- Adeline and Keen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 18 07:48:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA06132 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06124 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00478 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29585 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910180647.HAA29585@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Tournament - 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TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Tuesday 8th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (2 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 18 10:46:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11985 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:39:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11972 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:39:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10547 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:39:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-106.neon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.234] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11d9GW-000608-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:39:41 +0100 Reply-To: "Ben Peek" From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Seeking Brad from Doughboys Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:37:35 +0100 Message-ID: <01bf194c$68e4d7a0$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF1954.CAA93FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF1954.CAA93FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know Bradley's (from Doughboys) phone number - he's recently = moved and I haven't been able to contact him. Cheers for your help Ben SuperFly big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF1954.CAA93FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know Bradley's (from = Doughboys)=20 phone number - he's recently moved and I haven't been able to contact=20 him.
 
Cheers for your help
 
Ben
SuperFly 
big_boy@super-fly.frees= erve.co.uk
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BF1954.CAA93FA0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 18 12:03:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11221 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:03:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11204 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:03:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11457 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:03:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11dAYq-0003hS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:02:40 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:10:14 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF1961.BBC2EF60.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: Britdisc Subject: BUF affiliation Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:10:13 +0100 Organization: Mwnci See X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could anyone tell me how much affiliation ot the BUF is, by 12.45, thanks ------------------------------- Alex Livingstone Mwnci See - Club President University of Wales, Aberystwyth Please visit our website at: www.mwncisee.co.uk ------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 18 12:03:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10605 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10572 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:01:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11228 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:01:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:00:05 +0100 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 18 Oct 99 12:00:08 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.43); 18 Oct 99 11:59:53 GMT0BST From: No Frills To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:59:52 GMT0BST Subject: SW Student Indoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12) Message-ID: <12848D91FA3@PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all students in the Welsh and South Western area, Plans are now under way for the annual Wales and South West student indoors on the weekend of November 20th and 21st. Info: The venue is the same as last year - Talybont Sports Hall, Cardiff. The entry fee is #75/ team (cheques payable to UWC Ultimate Frisbee). This must be sent to me to confirm your place: Simon McSweeney 38 Daniel Street, Cathays, Cardiff. CF24 4NY As last year there are 16 places available and it will be first come first served. However, if you would like to enter more than one team you are more than welcome but first teams will get priority. Plans for the Saturday night are being organised as I write and it is guaranteed to be a "large one" like last year. Please get back to me a.s.a.p. if you are interested or if you have any questions/comments. Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 18 12:05:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11741 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:04:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11725 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:04:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [204.146.168.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11613 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:04:43 +0100 (BST) Received: by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 6511 ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:04:39 EDT Received: from roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk [194.202.79.130] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:04:33 EDT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:05:37 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BB9B97CC@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: National teams Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:05:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please could someone post a summary of the outcome of Saturday's meeting to discuss national team management for those unable to attend. Thanx Welshy UTI All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 19 09:29:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09001 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:28:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08990 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:28:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24252 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:28:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from idyllic.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@idyllic.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.175]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id JAA20449 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:28:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by idyllic.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA30102 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:30:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: idyllic.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:30:48 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, The closing date for entries is next monday, thats the 25th. By Monday afternoon I will post all the final team slots. Please rember that if we are over subscribed, we will give priority to 1st teams over 3rd teams, unfortunatly that means that some of you may not get all the teams that you asked for. Cheers, Paul Eastman RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 19 12:29:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07814 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:27:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07731 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:27:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f160.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.160]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13591 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:27:27 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 75130 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 1999 11:26:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19991019112655.75129.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.32 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:26:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.32] From: "Jester Bit" To: scotdisc@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, shooting_stars@egroups.com, Bgda@egroups.com, jere.manninen@st.com, juha.jalovaara@qdc.fi, sami.holopainen@hut.fi, rebihering@hotmail.com, chrige-chrege@bluewin.ch, speedy@wizards.ch, allon.katz@citicorp.c Cc: alison.arnold@factory.fb.se, winthrop.dada@ttahead.com, esa@hotmail.com, parinell@sunspot.tiac.net, lsivan@axionet.com, er2de2@bigfoot.com, ganzell@math.rice.edu, LAParham@aol.com, W.Peters@phys.uu.nl, holmstroms@ebox.tninet.se Subject: New WUCC99 picture site launched Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:26:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk • • • New WUCC99 picture site launched • • • Get online and http://fly.to/the-disc • In August of this year I played for Soup (Scotland) at the World Ultimate Club Championships. This site is a collection of some of the photos I took during the week, I hope you like them. Please send the URL on to any interested parties. Jester (Soup) • • • New WUCC99 picture site launched • • • • The site would not exist if it were not for the programming skills of Rory Macdonald (Mud Culture, Glasgow). Many thanks Rory for all the time and effort you have put into this. • Thanks to all the players around the world who answered my requests to identify their team mates and provide interesting stories. • Both Rory and myself would like to see the site grow and become both a resource of good quality pictures, and a visual diary of WUCC99. If you have either any good quality action pictures that would compliment those already on the site, or some humourous shots please mail them as 72dpi jpegs for consideration to: . Please also send a text message to jester_bit@hotmail.com to alert me. Now, go enjoy http://fly.to/the-disc All the bester Jester ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 19 13:12:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23246 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:10:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23221 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:10:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from uk_mail.uk.sports.gov.uk (mailhost.uksportscouncil.co.uk [193.133.64.161]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00534 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:10:21 +0100 (BST) Received: by UK_MAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:05:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: Laura Pearce To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Millennium Dome Exhibition Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:05:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, We have been approached by a someone creating an exhibit at the Millennium Dome and urgently need two ultimate players with (prefereably) different backgrounds for a small piece on ultimate. We thought that a student female and a masters-age male would be good. Different/unusual professions/ethnic groups/races/ancestries would be a bonus too. I think we have the student female sorted out, but any male masters who are interested and can provide a photo straight away, should contact either Laura, Ben or Jon Hope asap. Other than providing a photo and a short paragraph about yourself there is really very little you need to do. Essentially an A4 sized blow-up of your picture and the blurb about you will be on show in the dome. Original email is attached below..... Ben BUF Secretary Basically we are involved in part of the Dome exhibition. We are selecting a series of 24 'couples' - who on the face of it have nothing in common - but in fact do have a common interest. We have several different sections - including sport and we wanted to include a slightly unusual sport - hence Ultimate! What we will need ASAP is: to be put in touch with 2 totally different people - age/colour/sex anything - even from opp. sides of the world. They had Ultimate in common - and in the best situation have come together through the sport. We will need a good photo of each person (neg. if poss but print will do) They will be blown up to around A4 size. This photo should be head and shoulders - or a close up full length - but should have nothing to do with the sport. We will then want a few photos of these people playing Ultimate. Also we will need a little blurb about them, the sport " Laura Pearce Performance Development Directorate Tel: 0171 380 8017 Fax: 0171 380 8015 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 19 16:57:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00475 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:55:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15839 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:21:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05929 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:20:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11db3q-0007Hl-01; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:20:26 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 19 Oct 99 16:20:26 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 19 Oct 99 16:20:26 +0100 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:20:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Contact details X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Nearly have all the contact details, but a few of you are holding out on me! In particular, Purple Haze (Loughborough) Southampton Institute and UWIC If anbody knows anything about these teams as regards whose in caharge please let me know. Thank you Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 19 18:50:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15776 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:49:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15767 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:49:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand.global.net.uk ([195.147.248.109]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23836 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:49:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from pf9s08a07.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.232.250] helo=[195.147.148.100]) by sand.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11ddOU-0002yT-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:49:55 +0100 X-Sender: z_rawi@mail.globalnet.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:53:01 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: z_rawi@globalnet.co.uk (Zaid Rawi) Subject: NE Students Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Could someone tell me what is going on with the NE Student Regionals (Chewy?). I wasn't on the student email list and so I think I've missed something. I presume that student players from Hulltimate are wanted there. Zaid From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 20 10:53:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11656 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:52:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11552 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f244.hotmail.com [216.32.181.244]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25376 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4688 invoked by uid 0); 20 Oct 1999 09:51:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19991020095114.4687.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 139.184.30.11 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 02:51:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [139.184.30.11] From: "Keith Moon" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: SE regional Student indoors Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:51:13 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having finally sorted the hall times, the SE student teams are cordially invited to a fun packed weekend in Brighton and a chance to prove your worth. What am I talking about? Event: SE Regional Student Indoor Qualifiers Date: 20th-21st November 1999 Venue: University of Sussex Sportscentre, Falmer, Brighton Availablity: 16 teams Price: 75 GBP per team Deadline for Payment: Monday 1st November (after that, 2nd and 3rd teams will be considered) Payable to: Benjamin Crick Address: The Flat, Milligan House, Porthall Avenue, Brighton, BN1 5PL After the great success of last years charity match, there will be another this year. It will be outdoors, so bring your boots! Any problems, contact me, Keith Moon mohawks@hotmail.com 01273 233168 07881 920781 See ya soon Keith Mohawks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 20 12:49:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01050 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01005 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:46:59 +0100 (BST) From: Emma.Sevitt@allenovery.com Received: from aomsw1.AllenOvery.com (gatekeeper.allenovery.com [194.129.43.85]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06828 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:46:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from AOSMTP2.AllenOvery.com (unverified) by aomsw1.AllenOvery.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:09:14 +0000 Received: by AOSMTP2.AllenOvery.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 00256810.0042C6EB ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:09:22 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALLEN & OVERY To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: <00256810.0042C5FD.00@AOSMTP2.AllenOvery.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:09:37 +0000 Subject: Women's tournament MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone driving to Warwick on Sat. Oct 30th for the Women's Tournament? If so, I would appreciate it if someone could get back to me. Thanks so much, Emma Sevitt ====================================================================== The views and opinions expressed in this email message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Allen & Overy ====================================================================== From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 20 13:31:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18745 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:30:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18731 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:30:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19267 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:29:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11durs-0001oS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:29:24 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:37:09 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF1B00.35449420.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Subject: South West and Wales regional team Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:37:08 +0100 Organization: Mwnci See X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know what's going on with this and is it being sorted out or not, other regions seem to be getting it together and have already started to have practices. ------------------------------- Alex Livingstone Mwnci See - Club President University of Wales, Aberystwyth Please visit our website at: www.mwncisee.co.uk ------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 20 17:26:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07036 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:24:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07006 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:24:50 +0100 (BST) From: Emma.Sevitt@allenovery.com Received: from aomsw1.AllenOvery.com (gatekeeper.allenovery.com [194.129.43.85]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28227 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:24:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from AOSMTP2.AllenOvery.com (unverified) by aomsw1.AllenOvery.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:28:05 +0000 Received: by AOSMTP2.AllenOvery.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 00256810.005A784D ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:28:10 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALLEN & OVERY To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: <00256810.005A7786.00@AOSMTP2.AllenOvery.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:28:28 +0000 Subject: once again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I wrote before requesting a lift to Warwick but very cleverly forgot to include that I am coming from London. So again, if anyone is driving from London to Warwick on the Sat. morning then that would be great if you could get in touch with me. thanks again, Emma Sevitt ====================================================================== The views and opinions expressed in this email message are the author's own and may not reflect the views and opinions of Allen & Overy ====================================================================== From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 21 12:19:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11838 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:17:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11808 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:16:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18433 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:16:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11eGDE-0005BF-01; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:16:52 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 21 Oct 99 12:16:51 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 21 Oct 99 12:16:50 +0100 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:16:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Regional team finals X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello, REGIONAL TEAM FINALS, will be held on the 1st and 2nd of April 2000, NOT on the 6/7th of Nov. 1999. They will be in Leicester, and more details will follow nearer the date. So now you know! As always, a pleasure. Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 21 14:28:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06037 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:26:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06004 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:26:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25664 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:26:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11eIDl-0003W4-00; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:25:33 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:33:24 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF1BD1.3B366A80.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'mwncisee@egroups.com'" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: FW: School Project Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:33:23 +0100 Organization: Mwnci See X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk go on, spare a few minutes for their project. It can be your good deed for the day. ------------------------------- Alex Livingstone Mwnci See - Club President University of Wales, Aberystwyth Please visit our website at: www.mwncisee.co.uk ------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: MONICA TEUTSCH [SMTP:monicateutsch@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:35 PM To: Andy; Ann; Barbara; Bob Grundy; Dave Rich; Doi; Julie; Karen; Suzanne & Jon Subject: School Project >> HELLO FRIENDS: >> >> >> We are in Grade 5 at Bill Arp Elementary School in Douglasville, Georgia, >> which is about 20 minutes west of Atlanta, Georgia, USA. We have decided >> to >> map an email project. We are curious to see where in the world our email >> will travel between the period of Sept. 21 - Nov.19,1999. >> >> We would like your help. If you receive this message, we would like you to >> do two things: >> 1) Email us and tell us where you live. >> 2) Forward our message to as many people you can. >> >> Thank you for taking the time to help! Our email address is: >> class5a1999@yahoo.com >> >> Your friends, Mr. Blevins' Grade 5 Class >> Bill Arp Elementary School, Douglasville, Georgia, USA __________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 21 14:40:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11702 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:37:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11670 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:37:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28053 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:37:18 +0100 (BST) Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4NWGTHP1>; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:37:04 +0100 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F5AFD@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: School Project Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:36:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >go on, spare a few minutes for their project. It can be your good deed for the day. Or it could just be your contribution to a hoax designed to generate as much spam email as possible, the electronic equivalent of a chain letter. Scuttler Sneeeky's / Gael Force From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 21 17:38:57 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19050 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:36:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19038 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:36:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16212 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:36:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11eLBq-0006ed-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:35:46 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:43:38 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF1BEB.CE442460.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Don't open: Sorry about the previous message - do not bother with it :o) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:43:37 +0100 Organization: Mwnci See X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ------------------------------- Alex Livingstone Mwnci See - Club President University of Wales, Aberystwyth Please visit our website at: www.mwncisee.co.uk ------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 22 09:47:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03018 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:44:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27564 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:47:31 +0100 (BST) From: gynga@excite.com Received: from fortune.excite.com (fortune-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03186 for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:47:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from bessie.excite.com ([199.172.152.102]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <19991021224657.YVRN3796.fortune.excite.com@bessie.excite.com> for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:46:57 -0700 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: tournaments Message-Id: <940546018.20947.309@excite.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:46:58 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 195.11.50.201 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone mail me a list of up coming tournaments and if there are teams short of players. Cheers Fi ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 25 07:48:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19876 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19866 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29700 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA15601 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199910250647.HAA15601@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 30th October 1999 Women's Outdoor Tournament (2 days) @ Warwick University, Coventry [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 13th November 1999 Edinburgh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Paul Eastman Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.co Phone 020 8663 4856 Tuesday 8th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email POA96PJC@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (2 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 26 09:23:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11775 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:21:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11760 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:21:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05352 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:20:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from tasty.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@tasty.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.155]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id JAA06191 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:20:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by tasty.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA09470 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:20:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: tasty.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:20:58 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Update. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Here is the final list of teams who have places at this years tournament. Please check carefully how many teams you have entered as due to huge demand for places we have had to allocate places to 1st teams over 3rd. Cupid Stunts Grantham Collage 1 Place Hulltimate Hull 1 Phat Eds Sheffield Uni 2 Falling Skies Aberdeen Uni 1 Jedi Leeds Uni 2 Flying Sorcerors St Andrews Uni 2 Mohawks Southampton 1 Shooting Stars Dundee Uni 2 Jesters Leciester 2 Fingers Six Manchester Met 1 Mynci See Aber Uni 1 Pookas Dublin 1 Northern Lights Durham 2 Disciples Bradford 1 Sneeekys Edinburgh Open 1 Far Flung Glasgow Uni 2 Purple Haze 1 Reservoir Fish Lancaster 1 The Source Strathclyde Uni 1 Sterling Uni 1 Yorki Bar Kids York 1 Strange Blue Cambridge 1 RESERVES -------- If any team pulls out this will be the order in which teams are offered the extra places: Yorkie Bar Kids Phat 'Eds Flying Sorcerors Shooting Stars Glasgow Places are offerd on a first cheque first serverd basis Any cheques which are not cashed will be returned at the tournament. I will send out more information about accomodation and transport soon. Thanks Alot, Paul Eastman RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 26 10:49:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08579 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:47:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08572 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:47:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk (root@epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk [139.184.162.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA06473 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:47:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (917 bytes) by epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk via sendmail with P:stdio/R:acukbind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:47:35 +0100 ( BST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #10 built 1998-Feb-1) Message-Id: From: kevinbr@biols.susx.ac.uk (Kevin Brooks) Subject: Disclaimer. To: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Eastman) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:47:35 +0100 ( BST) Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: from "Paul Eastman" at Oct 26, 99 09:20:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Correction... After grave objections had been raised by the Elders, the Mohawk tribe would like to officially confirm that they are NOT from Southampton, and have no connections whattsoever with those Purple-wannabies, the (smelly) Skunks. Locks, Mohawk Elder. P.S. SE student teams: see you on 21st Nov., and bring your boots for the outdoor charity/beer match. > > Hi, > > Here is the final list of teams who have places at this years tournament. > > Mohawks Southampton 1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 26 11:10:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15820 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15802 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09505 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from emotive.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@emotive.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.167]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id LAA16962; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by emotive.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA05421; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: emotive.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:08:51 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: Kevin Brooks cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Disclaimer. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Offical Ro-Sham-Bo Response With most sicerest appologies Ro-Sham(yes that right, we're a Sham)-Bo would like to take this chance to appologise to Skunks for confusing them with the obviously much less know and respected Mohawks. We feel that any upset felt by Skunks should be fully recompensed by Mohawks on the first possible occasion. Paul Eastman, President, Ro-Sham-Bo P.S sorry Locks, I blame my Captain and Treasuer, they drew up the list. :-) > Correction... > > After grave objections had been raised by the Elders, the Mohawk tribe > would like to officially confirm that they are NOT from Southampton, and > have no connections whattsoever with those Purple-wannabies, the (smelly) > Skunks. > > Locks, > Mohawk Elder. > > P.S. SE student teams: see you on 21st Nov., and bring your boots for > the outdoor charity/beer match. > > > > Hi, > > > > Here is the final list of teams who have places at this years tournament. > > > > Mohawks Southampton 1 > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 26 11:54:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02230 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:53:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02207 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:53:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk (pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk [141.163.2.62]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25523 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:53:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from csuf43.csd.plymouth.ac.uk ([141.163.188.1] helo=csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk) by pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11g4Dv-0003tY-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:53:03 +0100 Received: from CSUF43/SpoolDir by csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 26 Oct 99 11:52:49 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by CSUF43 (Mercury 1.44); 26 Oct 99 11:52:41 GMT From: "KERRY ANNE MAYBURY" Organization: University of Plymouth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:52:41 GMT Subject: S.W. Qualifiers Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick one, When are the S.W. student indoor qualifiers is it 27-28 Nov? Cheers, Picnic xxx From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 27 16:12:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22639 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22497 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:11:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.101]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA22827 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:11:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1169 invoked by uid 0); 27 Oct 1999 15:10:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19991027151033.1168.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.39 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:10:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.39] From: "Vanessa White" To: altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, spl7ekb@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk, hannah@ultimate19.freeserve.co.uk, hjss@richardsbutler.com, hannah.easter@philips.com, kawij@hotmail.com, badbird@cwcom.net, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, pyuni@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Nadya.Hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, NofrillsS@cardiff.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, mohawks@hotmail.com, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, Vanessa_White@phidelta.demon.co.uk, Wpb198@soton.ac.uk Subject: Women's Tournament Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:10:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Women's Tournement 30th and 31st October Captains Meeting on the pitches will take place at 9.00am on Saturday, games will start at 9.30am All this information has been passed to individual team contacts along with directions. Thanks Vaness White Women's Co-Orindinator ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 28 08:02:13 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA18326 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:01:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18317 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:01:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA07160 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:01:12 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 63339 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 1999 07:00:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991028070041.63338.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.38 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:00:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.38] From: "Vanessa White" To: altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, spl7ekb@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk, badbird@cwcom.net, Laura.Pearce@uksport.gov.uk, Nadya.Hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, NofrillsS@cardiff.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, Wpb198@soton.ac.uk Subject: Directions to Warwick Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:00:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Directions to the Womens Tournament this weekend. For those arriving on Friday I will advise you of the pub we plan to meet in later today or tomorrow morning. (From A45) Follow signs to University of Warwick Will eventually get to 2 roundabouts close together (may be able to see Tesco from here) Drive past some university buildings Just before traffic lights turn into car park on right. Entrance to changing rooms is on opposite side of building to car park. To walk to pitches (about 5 mins max) Cross road at lights Follow footpath straight ahead of you to main campus At end of footpath, turn left and follow road Cut through trees on left to pitches To drive to pitches Turn right out of car park Left at roundabout Left at next roundabout Follow road round and turn left at sign for carpark 8/8A Pitches are behind multistory carpark (8A) Vanessa White Women's Co-Ordinator 07970 903422 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 28 13:45:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09126 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:43:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09111 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:43:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f19.hotmail.com [209.185.131.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15916 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:43:40 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 97364 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 1999 12:43:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19991028124309.97363.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:43:07 PDT X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.36] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: jonathancurran@dtn.ntl.com, robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, radness@canada.com, jas@jsangha.freeserve.co.uk, david.kitts@strath.ac.uk, thor.abrahamsen@strath.ac.uk, kathy_in_austria@hotmail.com, claire.watt@strath.ac.uk, cordoyno@hotmail.com, gavin.gilligan@strath.ac.uk, pamela.adams@strath.ac.uk, clare.connolly@strath.ac.uk, andrew.bryce@strath.ac.uk, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk Subject: scottish/northern student regional qualifiers: an invitation... Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:43:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk the Source present: "Cindy" - a tournament for your maximum pleasure.... if you're a student team from scotland or the north of england, Cindy would like to show you a good time. she'll be expecting you on the 4th and 5th of december, at strathclyde university, glasgow. details, like underwear, are skimpy and woefully inadequate for this time of year. suffice it to say, all your disc based desires will be satisfied (hopefully a few others too...), and she should be pretty cheap. write the date on the back of your hand, and she'll be back in touch. what a tease, eh .... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 29 12:39:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22079 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:37:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22061 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:37:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from dart.cf.ac.uk (dart.cf.ac.uk [131.251.1.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17257 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:37:38 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199910291137.MAA17257@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK by dart.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:36:56 +0100 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 29 Oct 99 12:37:00 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.43); 29 Oct 99 12:36:53 GMT0BST From: No Frills To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:36:44 GMT0BST Subject: SW indoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Fellow South Western Students, Just a quick up date on the situation for the South West and Wales indoor tourny in Cardiff on 20th and 21st November. So far the teams that are officially entered are: Mythago Mythago 2 OW! OW! 2 UWE no frills no frills 2 We are aware that Oxford and Bristol also have third teams and, assuming that the situation stays as it is, they will definitely be "in". We will let you know the closing date for entries some time next week and we'll keep you up to date with this third team situation. Also I have not heard anything from Plymouth (Picnic) and Exeter. If you are they, or if you know anything about them then could you please let me know. Appreciated. Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 29 12:55:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28669 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:54:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28640 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:53:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12581 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:53:57 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199910291153.MAA12581@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from ABCYCF3S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:53:14 +0100 Received: from ABCYCF3S/SpoolDir by ABCYCF3S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 29 Oct 99 12:53:19 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by ABCYCF3S (Mercury 1.43); 29 Oct 99 12:52:49 GMT0BST From: SIMON MCSWEENEY To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:52:47 GMT0BST Subject: SW indoors X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The closing date for entries will be next Friday 5th November. Apologies to Picnic I received your e-mail today. I'm still waiting to hear from Exeter though so if anyone knows them could you let them know that they've got a week to get in touch. ttfn Si. simple From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 29 18:01:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09749 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:00:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09715 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:00:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.kpmg.co.uk (gatekeeper.kpmg.co.uk [158.177.32.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05657 for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:59:59 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.kpmg.co.uk; id RAA28715; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:54:18 +0100 Received: from ukwatexc01.kpmg.co.uk(158.174.200.96) by gatekeeper.kpmg.co.uk via smap (4.1) id xma028680; Fri, 29 Oct 99 17:53:39 +0100 Received: from ukwatexc01.uk.kpmg.com (unverified [127.0.0.1]) by ukwatexc01.uk.kpmg.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:39 +0100 Received: by UKWATEXC01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:39 +0100 Message-Id: <53CAF6AD6B08D3118F700008C7A473E901348EAE@UKBIREXC06> From: "Eagles, Colin L" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: regional/ coed practices Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to bother you all, but I am not a subscriber but need to know if anything definite has been sorted regarding the Midlands/ West regional practices and the coed practices for GB. Could someone e-mail me directly ( Jeff Jackson? ), and let me know the current situation. Thanks very much, Colin Eagles Wyld Stallyns Email Disclaimer The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 11:46:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00761 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:43:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21861 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:24 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22017 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA20581 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199911010747.HAA20581@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 6th November 1999 BDGA Golf: Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington (TBC) [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 7676766 Saturday 13th November 1999 Edinburgh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Paul Eastman Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 12:58:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07267 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:55:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18978 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:17:52 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23758 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:17:17 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id JAA29411; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:17:03 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma029401; Mon, 1 Nov 99 09:17:04 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA24705; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:17:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id JAA07379; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:16:59 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900005047366; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:17:32 +0100 To: Cc: , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: Warwick Women's Results Message-ID: <0056900005047366000002L062*@MHS> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:17:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 11/01/99 09:16:08" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA19013 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To every one at the women tournament, I would just like to say Thankyou to Vanessa for the organisation and sitting in the rain when not playing which is an achievement in it's self (especially with the rugby on!!). Thanks to all that played, well done! One very knackered Hannah ( Janet Hawes ) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 12:59:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08216 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:57:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24993 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:26:58 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f293.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.87]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA19069 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:10:52 GMT Received: (qmail 70495 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 1999 04:10:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19991101041020.70494.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.2.202 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:10:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.2.202] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The dodgiest throw in the west Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:10:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ok, I've just seen that people carrier TV ad where one of us does the 'stunt double' bit for the actor and chucks a disc through the wagon to a greatful mutt on the other side. What I'd like to know is who on Earth threw that ****! ;) My disc skill are sod all to rave about but I've seen less wobble on championship winning sumo jelly eater! Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 12:59:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09062 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:58:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20107 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:19:34 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f82.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA23304 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:02:47 GMT Received: (qmail 33090 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 1999 08:02:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991101080215.33089.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.37 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:02:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.37] From: "Vanessa White" To: altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, spl7ekb@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk, hannah.easter@philips.com, Nadya.Hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, NofrillsS@cardiff.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, StratfordS@cardiff.ac.uk, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, Wpb198@soton.ac.uk Subject: Warwick Women's Results Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 00:02:15 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all the teams and the supporters for a great weekend. Thanks again to Sarah Kirwin (Bears) who organised all the accommodation and party tickets. Results 1st Fierce 2nd Organics 3rd Janet Hawes 4th Skunks 5th Squaws 6th Disco Inferno 7th Bears 8th Cardiff Angels MVP of the final went to Terri Whitehead (Fierce) Spirit of the Game: Squaws Thanks Vanessa White ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 13:59:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11191 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:57:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11152 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:57:31 GMT From: Allan.Masson@pearsoned-ema.com Received: from mimesweeper2.pearsoned-ema.com (mimesweeper2.pearsoned-ema.com [194.200.102.208]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23644 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:57:28 GMT Received: from mailserver.pearsoned-ema.com (unverified [194.200.100.10]) by mimesweeper2.pearsoned-ema.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:58:27 +0000 Received: from ccMail by mailserver.pearsoned-ema.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 00001CC4; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:58:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:56:18 +0000 Message-Id: <00001CC4.C22055@pearsoned-ema.com> Subject: Re: The dodgiest throw in the west To: "Jester Bit" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Don't be so quick to judge. I expect the media types requested some artistic wobble so that the dog in follow up ad can throw it back through the open car doors dead level. All they need is a dog shaped disc golfer or ultimate player. Please send your photographs to Renault UK. _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: The dodgiest throw in the west From: "Jester Bit" at INTERSMTP Date: 31.10.1999 20:10 Uhr Ok, I've just seen that people carrier TV ad where one of us does the 'stunt double' bit for the actor and chucks a disc through the wagon to a greatful mutt on the other side. What I'd like to know is who on Earth threw that ****! ;) My disc skill are sod all to rave about but I've seen less wobble on championship winning sumo jelly eater! Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 14:14:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18015 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:12:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17815 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:12:26 GMT Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21052 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:40:51 GMT Message-Id: <199911011340.NAA21052@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:36:16 -0000 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc Subject: calendar Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:39:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1. Tuesday 8th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA is this right? 2. Has the GB boss of bosses been chosen? 3. is GB practice always going to held at MK? stig From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 14:42:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16999 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:10:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16979 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:10:55 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25601 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:10:54 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id PAA16807 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:10:48 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma016802; Mon, 1 Nov 99 15:10:48 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA03916 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:10:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA24876 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:10:46 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900005053218; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:11:19 +0100 To: Subject: remove Message-ID: <0056900005053218000002L082*@MHS> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:11:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 11/01/99 15:09:56" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA16980 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk REMOVE hannah@ultimate19.freeserve.co.uk CHEERS HANNAH From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 16:50:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27542 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:48:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27524 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:48:33 GMT Received: from dart.cf.ac.uk (dart.cf.ac.uk [131.251.1.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14998 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:48:33 GMT Received: from PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK by dart.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:47:44 +0000 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 1 Nov 99 16:47:53 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.43); 1 Nov 99 16:47:50 GMT0BST From: No Frills To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:47:44 GMT0BST Subject: SWindoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12) Message-ID: <27E23066220@PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As far as I know we have now heard from everyone who wants to play in the South West Student Indoors on November 20th and 21st. Unless there are any problems this is the list of the teams who will be playing: 1. Mythago 1 2. Mythago 2 3. Mythago 3 4. No Frills 1 5. Cardiff 2 6. Cardiff 3 7. Cardiff 4 8. OW! 9. OW! 2 10. OW! 3 11. Picnic 1 12. Picnic 2 13. Picnic 3 14. Uriel 1 15. Uriel 2 16. UWE If there are any problems or disagreements with the above please let me know as soon as poss. so I can get them sorted. Please could all of the above teams e-mail me with full contact details (I know I've already got some but I just want to make sure) so that we can get in touch if necessary. Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 1 21:25:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00789 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:24:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00780 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:24:36 GMT Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29943 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:24:36 GMT Received: from modem-105.methcathinone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.78.233] helo=hal9000) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11iOwM-0007MY-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:24:35 +0000 Message-ID: <001401bf24af$5f513ee0$e94e883e@hal9000> From: "Benjamin Crick" To: Subject: SE regoinal indoors Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:21:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF24AF.1DBF0D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF24AF.1DBF0D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Below is a list of all the teams we have heard from wishing to play at = the SE regional indoor qualifiers hosted by the Mohawks on the 20/21st = November:- Mohawks * 4 Strange Blue * 1 Skunks * 3 Brunel * 2 Toxic * 1 Total 11 We have spaces for 16 teams and so may be able to accomodate some non = student teams. If any student team in the SE region wishes to play and = has not yet contacted us then please do so asap or we may have given the = remaining free slots away. As a reminder to all the teams that are going, there will be a = captains/allstars charity match on sunday so bring 3 or 4 pairs of boots = for outdoors. Hope to see you all soon Ben Crick AKA "Stroke" the captain 01273 241145 bencrick@bcrick.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF24AF.1DBF0D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Below is a list of all the teams we have heard from = wishing to=20 play at the SE regional indoor qualifiers hosted by the Mohawks on the = 20/21st=20 November:-
 
Mohawks        *=20 4
Strange Blue  * 1
Skunks         &nbs= p;*=20 3
Brunel         &nbs= p; *=20 2
Toxic          = ;  =20 * 1
 
Total          = ;   =20 11
 
We have spaces for 16 teams and so may be able to = accomodate=20 some non student teams. If any student team in the SE region wishes to = play and=20 has not yet contacted us then please do so asap or we may have given the = remaining free slots away.
 
As a reminder to all the teams that are going, there = will be a=20 captains/allstars charity match on sunday so bring 3 or 4 pairs of boots = for=20 outdoors.
 
Hope to see you all soon
 
Ben Crick
 
AKA "Stroke" the captain
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BF24AF.1DBF0D40-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 12:57:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07100 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:53:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07060 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:53:30 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f114.hotmail.com [209.185.131.177]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11478 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:53:29 GMT Received: (qmail 96365 invoked by uid 0); 2 Nov 1999 12:52:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19991102125258.96364.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:52:57 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.36] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, jonathancurran@dtn.ntl.com, robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, robdouglas69@hotmail.com, jas@jsangha.freeserve.co.uk, david.kitts@strath.ac.uk, thor.abrahamsen@strath.ac.uk, kathy_in_austria@hotmail.com, claire.watt@strath.ac.uk, cordoyno@hotmail.com, gavin.gilligan@strath.ac.uk, pamela.adams@strath.ac.uk, clare.connolly@strath.ac.uk, andrew.bryce@strath.ac.uk, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk Subject: Cindy - firmed up a little. Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 04:52:57 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk scottish/northern student teams, now is the time to respond: the tournament is Cindy, the date is fixed - 4-5dec, the number is probable - 16 teams, the fee is acceptable (?) - £60/team, the attitude is non-negotiable - debauched. send money to: leigh simmons 2/1, 20 Rupert street, Glasgow, G4 9AR (cheques payable to "the Source") and in return i'll send you something nice. leigh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 16:10:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22388 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:03:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22251 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:02:52 GMT Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02747 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:02:48 GMT Received: from host62-172-57-205.btinternet.com ([62.172.57.205] helo=mail.btinternet.com) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11igOU-0007MM-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:02:46 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: GB Update From: Laura Pearce To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:02:46 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Firstly, may I apologise for the delay in this information. At the meeting held at the last GB practice, several things were decided regarding the structure/system of the GB squads. In summary, it was agreed that there will be an overall manager responsible for overseeing the coordination of all divisions. There will also be a divisional manager for each division and they would be responsible for training and selection of that team, although the overall manager would have some input in the team selection. The divisional managers and the overall manager will in effect be a committee who will work together to get the optimum out of each team, although the divisional manager will have the responsibility of running the team. The actual details of the committee's role will be finalised by the committee and the BUF when all the positions are confirmed. There was also discussion about practices and that it should be possible for all GB players (from all divisions) to attend a regional practice (eg weekly, fortnightly) in addition to the monthly squad practice, although there was some concern that this would affect club practices and could be harder to do in some regions. The regional practice issue needs to be finalised and organised, and is probably something for the management committee to discuss. The timing of selection was brought up and it was generally agreed it should be between Xmas and February. There will be a co-ed team this year and concern was expressed that this team should not be somewhere for those who didn't get selected for open or womens to go afterwards. At present, 5 of the 6 positions have been finalised: Overall - Sammy Neilson Open - Aram Flores Co-ed - Jeff Jackson Masters - Wayne Davey Juniors - Patch Winser Womens - tbc I hope this summarises the situation as it stands at present. As soon as the 'details' are finalised, I will pass on this additional information. Apologies once again for the delay. Laura Pearce BUF National Director From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 16:53:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11024 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:49:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11001 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:49:11 GMT Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08503 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:49:09 GMT Received: from clw13.clw ([209.8.25.197]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:35:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991102114806.006f0788@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:48:06 -0500 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: GB Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ah, you poor Brits, depending on foreigners to pull together the men and children. Not that I'm complaining, you clearly picked the right folks for the job. But can't you all organize yourselves without help from North America? We won't always be there to save your skins. >At present, 5 of the 6 positions have been finalised: >Overall - Sammy Neilson >Open - Aram Flores >Co-ed - Jeff Jackson >Masters - Wayne Davey >Juniors - Patch Winser >Womens - tbc stephen formerly Gun, currently lost, but permanently Happy ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 2 22:13:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05054 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:09:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04902 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:09:40 GMT Received: from mail19.svr.pol.co.uk (mail19.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29209 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:09:35 GMT Received: from modem-68.zinc.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.14.196] helo=oemcomputer) by mail19.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11im7Q-0006sx-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:09:33 +0000 Message-ID: <008d01bf2575$a0709f80$02000003@oemcomputer> From: "Archie" To: Subject: An Invite to an Orgy Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:00:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01BF257D.AA45BCE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01BF257D.AA45BCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --------------------------------------Birmingham Indoors = 99------------------------------------------------ -----------------------------------------The Ultimate = Orgy---------------------------------------------------- Hello everyone, I am writing to invite each and everyone of you to what will be the best = tournament in the whole world - probably. Its the Ultimate Orgy - = Birmingham Indoors 99 on the 4th and 5th of December in Birmingham. Theres room for twenty teams altogether. Lots have people have already = contacted me about places so theres already 14 places provisionally = reserved until next week. If these places havent been paid for by then = then anyone who wants them can have them. For now there is 6 remaining = places available and if they go before next week i'll start a reserve = list for the provisionally reserved places for when they become = available. The tournament will cost =A380 per team. Theres a party, some limited = accomodation and lost more fun and frolics to be had in the heart of the = UK. For more information check out the web site, it opened yesterday http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk The tournament is just a one of for all those who play and are hungry = for more. Im trying to raise some money for charity so if i manage to = make any money its all going to be donated. Byeeeeeeeeee for now Archie ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01BF257D.AA45BCE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hello everyone,
 
I am writing to invite each and = everyone of you to=20 what will be the best tournament in the whole world - probably.  = Its the=20 Ultimate Orgy - Birmingham Indoors 99 on the 4th and 5th of December in=20 Birmingham.
 
Theres room for twenty teams = altogether.  Lots=20 have people have already contacted me about places so theres already 14 = places=20 provisionally reserved until next week.  If these places havent = been paid=20 for by then then anyone who wants them can have them.  For now = there is 6=20 remaining places available and if they go before next week i'll start a = reserve=20 list for the provisionally reserved places for when they become=20 available.
 
The tournament will cost =A380 per = team.  Theres=20 a party, some limited accomodation and lost more fun and frolics to be = had in=20 the heart of the UK.  For more information check out the web site, = it=20 opened yesterday
 
http://www.ultimate.fsbusin= ess.co.uk
 
The tournament is just a one of for all = those who=20 play and are hungry for more.  Im trying to raise some money for = charity so=20 if i manage to make any money its all going to be donated.
 
Byeeeeeeeeee for now
 
Archie
------=_NextPart_000_0070_01BF257D.AA45BCE0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 14:50:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04238 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:47:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04219 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:47:50 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25076 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:47:50 GMT Received: from deanhead.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.107.254]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11j1hV-0005oR-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 14:47:49 +0000 Received: from DEANHEAD/SpoolDir by deanhead.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 3 Nov 99 14:47:50 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by DEANHEAD (Mercury 1.46); 3 Nov 99 14:47:36 +0000 From: "H.Twohig" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:47:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: midland student qualifiers X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <1517B854FE@deanhead.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do not reply to this email address. If you have any queries then please phone me on 01329 845922 Event: Student Indoor Midland Qualifiers Venue: Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield Dates: 27th/28th November 1999 Dear Teams, It's that time again when I ask you to look ahead and decide how many teams you will be bringing to the Student Indoor Midland Qualifiers. Hopefully you'll all be able to bring your first teams along to compete for the four places at Student Indoor Finals. However, it would be great if you could also bring along some less experienced teams and even some beginners teams to get them hooked on the ways of Ultimate. This year as last both Bears and Phat 'Eds have confirmed they will be entering five teams, including three beginners teams each, so whatever the standard of the team that you bring there will always be something to play for. As last year the tournament is at Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield. It is a great venue with two good size pitches and cheap food and beer available all day long. In the evening there will be a party at Sorby Hall with a disco. There will also be a late license on the bar, so that partying can continue well into the night. The Sheffield players will provide floor space for all teams competing, so there will be no additional accommodation costs. To enter the tournament please send cheques made payable to 'More Than Just A Tournament' for the sum of eighty pounds per team and send it to the address at the end of this email. Teams will be entered on a first come, first served basis. The closing date for entries is the 12th of November 1999. If you have any further queries the best way of contacting me is by telephone, as I am unable to check my email regularly at present. I look forward to seeing you in Sheffield, Simon Weeks Tournament Director 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ * 01329 845922 email: mtjat@hotmail.com (not checked regularly, please telephone) ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 16:04:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10546 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:02:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10528 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:02:45 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08993 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:02:45 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11j2s0-0000N7-01; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:02:44 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 3 Nov 99 16:02:44 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 3 Nov 99 16:02:43 +0000 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:02:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student indoor finals any takers? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <218BD776615@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It's time to stop whinging about "whatever", and actually do something for student ultimate. 0100,0100,0100 Like bid for the National Student Indoor Finals 19/20th of Feb. 2000 send your bids to me, at the e-mail address below. Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 3 16:37:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26012 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:35:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25985 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:35:14 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08641 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:35:14 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11j3NQ-0001HV-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:35:12 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 3 Nov 99 16:35:12 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 3 Nov 99 16:34:59 +0000 From: "P.J.Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:34:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: clubs in west London X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <219472E29EB@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk An ex-Phat ed seeks ultimate team to play and train with, somewhere in West London, is prepared to travel, really wants to play, oh so bad it hurts! reply to: alister.wood@bbc.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 4 11:32:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09978 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:31:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09934 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:30:57 GMT From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01357 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:30:57 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:30:53 +0000 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13056; Thu, 4 Nov 99 11:30:49 GMT Message-Id: <9911041130.AA13056@damson.open.ac.uk> To: BritDisc Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:30:47 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Porro 1999 pictures update X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Brits who were at the Barcelona Porro recently may be interested in the following sites, Pete ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Rene Westenberg To: EuroDisc Subject: Porro 1999 pictures update Date sent: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:50:24 +0100 Hello beach ultimate lovers Added to the Porro 1999 picture gallery are two links: The first is to Pablo's page which has a LOT of great pictures of Porro 1999 The second is to Andre Witkams page with beautiful pictures of the Bar do Peixe 1999 tournament http://home.wish.net/~icecream Cheers Rene. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 5 14:17:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22911 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:16:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22902 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:16:05 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06058 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:16:04 GMT Received: from digley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.248]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11jk9s-0000YO-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:16:04 +0000 Received: from DIGLEY/SpoolDir by digley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 5 Nov 99 14:16:03 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by DIGLEY (Mercury 1.46); 5 Nov 99 14:15:56 +0000 From: "g.thomas" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:15:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: land of the rising sun X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <1447701E74EB@digley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk dear all, does anyone know about ultimate in japan ? i am currently applying for the JET scheme - which is a year's placement in japan. i have some say over what part of the country i will end up living in, and i am keen to carry on playing ultimate while i am there. so if anyone has been to japan, is from japan or knows anything about ultimate in japan i'd be really interested to hear! thanks everyone. here's hoping ... gordon thomas [phat'eds] ------- End of forwarded message ------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 5 15:30:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22710 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22677 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:32 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14892 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:31 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id PAA07337 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:30 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:30 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Just a quick note. I'll post travel directions and information on Manday. All teams will have accomodation provided on people's floors. All you need to bring is your kit, some party clobber, money and a sleeping bag. We'll be meeting in the Physcian and Firkin pub as usual. Rember, in Edinburgh the pubs stay open till 1am!! Cheers, Paul RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 5 15:35:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25054 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:34:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25018 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:34:35 GMT From: p.m.connor@open.ac.uk Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13760 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:34:35 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:34:36 +0000 Received: from 1228584.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19410; Fri, 5 Nov 99 15:34:25 GMT Message-Id: <9911051534.AA19410@damson.open.ac.uk> To: "g.thomas" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:34:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: land of the rising sun In-Reply-To: <1447701E74EB@digley.shef.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk http://www.ultilinks.com has info on ultimate just about everywhere its played, Pete > dear all, > > does anyone know about ultimate in japan ? > > i am currently applying for the JET scheme - which is a year's > placement in japan. i have some say over what part of the country i > will end up living in, and i am keen to carry on playing ultimate > while i am there. > so if anyone has been to japan, is from japan or > knows anything about ultimate in japan i'd be really interested to > hear! > > thanks everyone. > here's hoping ... > > gordon thomas [phat'eds] > > > > ------- End of forwarded message ------- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 5 22:27:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05546 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:26:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05541 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:26:14 GMT Received: from mail21.svr.pol.co.uk (mail21.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19336 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:26:14 GMT Received: from modem-172.marine-betta.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.43.172] helo=hal9000) by mail21.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11jroC-0000wg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:26:13 +0000 Message-ID: <00bc01bf27dc$9cf2a7e0$9025893e@hal9000> From: "Benjamin Crick" To: Subject: SE Regional Student Indoor Qualifiers Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 22:24:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B9_01BF27DC.821277C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01BF27DC.821277C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phew what a name... Here is the list of teams that are playing at our tournament on November = the 20/21st :- 1. Mohawks A 2. Mohawks B 3. Mohawks C.1 4. Mohawks C.2 5. Strange Blue 6. Toxic 7. Skunks A 8. Skunks B 9. Skunks C 10. Brunel A =20 11. Brunel B 12. Sublime Patriots A 13. Sublime Patriots B 14. Sublime Patriots C 15 Imperial=20 16. None of the above If any of the above teams can no longer make the tournament then please = contact me as soon as possible as other teams would like to play. = Directions will be posted to all of the teams a little closer to the = occasion. Could all of the above teams mail me with details of how many = people you are bringing and if anybody has any special medical = conditions (we need to know for our party of all things!). Hopefully = this year will be as successful as last year so let the Wagons roll and = Yee Haaa.... Ben Crick AKA "Stroke" the captain Mohawks Brighton ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01BF27DC.821277C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Phew what a name...
 
Here is the list of teams that are playing at our = tournament=20 on November the 20/21st :-
 
1.   Mohawks A
2.   Mohawks B
3.   Mohawks C.1
4.   Mohawks C.2
5.   Strange Blue
6.   Toxic
7.   Skunks A
8.   Skunks B
9.   Skunks C
10. Brunel A  =
11. Brunel B
12. Sublime Patriots A
13. Sublime Patriots B
14. Sublime Patriots C
15  Imperial
16. None of the above
 
 
If any of the above teams can no longer make the = tournament=20 then please contact me as soon as possible as other teams would like to = play.=20 Directions will be posted to all of the teams a little closer to the = occasion.=20 Could all of the above teams mail me with details of how many people you = are=20 bringing and if anybody has any special medical conditions (we need to = know for=20 our party of all things!). Hopefully this year will be as successful as = last=20 year so let the Wagons roll and Yee Haaa....
 
Ben Crick
AKA "Stroke" the captain
Mohawks
Brighton
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01BF27DC.821277C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 7 17:11:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02261 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02255 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:51 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23691 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:45 GMT Received: from host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com ([212.140.116.121]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <19991107170904.MWWV15533.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com> for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:04 +0000 Received: by host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF2942.9242E0A0@host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com>; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:07:28 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF2942.9242E0A0@host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Nationals and Tour Cancelled! Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:52:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA02256 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thats what will happen if nobody is prepared to organise them. I asked for bids to be made by the end of last week, and so far I have one. Indoor regionals is now only four months away and sports halls are getting booked up. Indoor Nationals has had no offers - and those of you thinking that Wayne and Myself will run it like last year, we've already checked Cheltenham sports centre and they are not available. So some one else will have to do it. Again do not assume that the tour will happen just like last year. Not all the venues are able to run an event again, and so if you want to play, YOU have to do some thing about it. I will be honest - these events are hard work, but they are also a license to print money. Whilst the u8c and myself will ensure that the tournament entrance fees are sensible - you can guarantee a large number of teams entering. Nationals (indoors and outdoors) you can guarantee to fill, and so there is no or little risk financially. Whilst you think that now is not the time to be thinking about outdoors, the first tour event is just over five months away, and if we want quality venues with good pitches and facilities then organise now. The later it is left the more likely the venues will be unable to cope with lots of teams and the pitches will be poor. Your choice. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 7 17:11:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02176 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02167 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:21 GMT Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12092 for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:09:20 GMT Received: from host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com ([212.140.116.121]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <19991107171031.OEOM29994.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com> for ; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:10:31 +0000 Received: by host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF2942.8BCFE060@host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com>; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:07:17 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF2942.8BCFE060@host212-140-116-121.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: GB training Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:42:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA02168 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before my abortive attempt to be actively involved in GB this year, one thing was obvious about the attendance at the training session - it was very poor. There were a lot of people there who would be expected to be attending who were not there (obviously some had valid reasons and had given their apologies). But also that a lot of people had already decided that they would not be good enough to attempt GB training and so stayed away. There are a lot of good reasons for people to attend; 1. the competition for places is good, it promotes peoples efforts. 2. It allows the selectors to choose the best team (which may not necessarily be all the best players - so you may have a chance) rather than just take those people who happened to turn up. 3. All the divisions will need players to form opposition teams for training, and so even if you are not good enough to be selected the involvement in the squad will improve you as a player. 4. If you really are not good enough you will find that out (or be subtly told if you are oblivious to the fact) but at least you will have tried. All the divisions (with the possible exception of the open) need more players at the training sessions, especially women - for both the women's and mixed divisions. So be alert to where the practices are being held, and when - the dates are on the calendar (most are unlikely to 2 days) with the locations to be published once the GB organisers have sorted it. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 07:48:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09003 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08998 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22696 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA16150 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199911080747.HAA16150@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 13th November 1999 Edinburgh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Paul Eastman Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 Cindy [Scottish/Northern Student Indoors] (2 days) @ Strathclyde University sports centre, Glasgow [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Leigh Simmons Email fatleigh@hotmail.com Phone 0141 331 0295 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kevin Blanch Address 36 Thackeray Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Email kpb298@soton.ac.uk Phone 01703 390832 07974 659206 (mobile) Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 10:35:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24516 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:33:25 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24506 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:33:23 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02675 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:33:22 GMT Received: from sensitive.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@sensitive.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.163]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id KAA07913; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:33:21 GMT Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by sensitive.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA05972; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:33:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: sensitive.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:33:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: g.b.legg@sms.ed.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Directions and final information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, ACCOMODATION All teams now have floor space provided, you will meet your hosts on friday night in the pub. COACHES All coaches must play in a hat at all times. Coaches may not score. There will as always be a prize for the best hat, voted for by the teams. DIRECTIONS Here follows direction to the Physician and Firkin. There will be people to meet you there from about 8:30 pm on. Cheers, Paul RSB THE A-Z OF DIRECTIONS (OR HOW TO FIND THE PUB!!!) 1. FROM THE AIRPORT Once you have arrived at Edinburgh Airport you can take either the taxi or the bus. You can catch either type of bus. The fare is about 3.50. The bus will finally travel along Princes Street, and stop on Waverley Bridge, just beside the station. Walk back up the road to Princes Street, turn right and follow the road until you get to the lights and turn right up the hill, this is North Bridge. You can KEEP walking along the road. Just after passing The Abbey pub (on South Clerk Street) take a left, and follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction, turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block. This walk will take about half an hour! OR Catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' from North Bridge, and then walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub and turn left at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Get a taxi to The Physician and Firkin, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool. 2. FROM THE BUS STATION Once you have arrived at the bus station, follow the footpath (this is to the right of the entrance to the St. James Centre) through until you reach Princes Street (about 200m away). Across the road is the bottom of North Bridge. Walk straight up North Bridge and continue along until the far end of South Clerk Street, at this set of traffic lights take a left (just after passing The Abbey pub) and follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, this walk will take about half an hour! OR >From North Bridge catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' and then walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub and turn left at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and it is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Get a taxi to The Physician and Firkin, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool. 3. FROM THE TRAIN STATION Once you have arrived in Edinburgh Waverley station find the large notice board (with arrivals and departures), turn your back to it. You should see a sign for the Way Out on your left. Take the steps (rising up over the bike stands) that go up to Waverley Market, they turn right and take you up to the East end of Princes Street. Catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' from North Bridge, and then walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub, and turn left at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and turn right, it is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Get a taxi to The Physician and Firkin Pub, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Walk straight up North Bridge and continue along South Bridge, Nicolson Street, Clerk Street, South Clerk Street, at the set of traffic lights take a left (just after passing The Abbey pub) and follow the road to the T-junction and turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, this walk will take about half an hour! 4. BY ROAD Follow the instructions for your chosen route. A1 ROUTE Follow the A1 until you reach the A720. Continue along the road and take the first exit, A 6095. The streets you drive along are as follows: , Newcraighall Road , Niddrie Mains Road Continue along Niddrie Mains Road. After two more sets of lights, this changes name to Peffermill Road. Follow to the roundabout and take the third exit, Dalkeith Road. Follow this road until you reach the Commonwealth Pool. The Physician & Firkin pub is opposite, parking is available in the pub car park, and the bar will be open. M6/M74 ROUTE Follow the M6 until it becomes the M74/A74. Keep on this road until you get to Junction 13 (of the M74) which is at Abington. Follow the signs for the A702. Remember to take the A702 when it forks right shortly after joining the A702, or you'll drive straight onto the A73. The A702 is the usual route to Edinburgh and passes through Biggar. After about 40 miles you will pass the Hillend Artificial Ski Slopes. You want to take the City By-pass to the East, A720, to do this, drive over it and then come back round the roundabout and turn left down the slip road. Take the first exit, the A701. The streets you drive along are as follows: , Burdiehouse Road , Howden Hall Road, Liberton Gardens , Liberton Brae , Liberton Road , Lady Road Take the first left at the roundabout, and follow this road until you reach the Commonwealth Pool. The Physician & Firkin pub is opposite, parking is available in the pub car park, and the bar will still be open. OTHER ROUTES Whatever other route you come to Edinburgh it is easy to meet the A720, the Edinburgh By-pass. If you don't know of an easier way, follow this until you reach the A701. The instructions after this are given above. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 13:18:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22555 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:15:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22527 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:15:38 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29843 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:15:33 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA23250 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:15:26 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:15:25 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:15:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Money Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Sorry one last point. All cheques will be cashed on the monday after the tournament. Thats Monday 15th Nov. Thanks, Paul RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 13:22:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25090 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:21:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25071 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:21:31 GMT Received: from carbon.btinternet.com (carbon.btinternet.com [194.73.73.92]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27188 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:21:16 GMT Received: from host5-99-51-80.btinternet.com ([195.99.51.80] helo=mail.btinternet.com) by carbon.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11kojL-0005b5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:21:08 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: London Indoor practice From: Laura Pearce To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 13:21:08 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone give me details of London Indoor practice(s) please. Thanks Laura From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 14:45:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00578 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:43:06 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00520 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:43:01 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11427 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:43:00 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05369 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:42:59 GMT Received: from TRAINB-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk (ak3009-4.sul.soton.ac.uk [152.78.209.41]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id OAA01710 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:34:35 GMT From: Kevin Blanch Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Tournament In-Reply-To: <3826D972.5020903F@uk.oracle.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:34:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all at Britdisc Its that time of year again to start playing indoor ultimate. Who's tournement this time?, well I'd like to say it is, but unfortunately it's not. So I would like to take this opportunity to invite you all to the annual Southampton Christmas tournement. Date: Sat 18th & Sun 19th December Venue: Southampton University Price: 60 GBP per team, cheques made out to: 'S.U Frisbee' Deadline for entries is November 30th So if you don't want to pile on the pounds over Christmas, feel guilty about it and then spend copious amounts of money joining a gym which you'll only use once. Get fit before Christmas and Send a cheque to:- Kevin Blanch 36 Thackeray R.D Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Any queries? phone:- 01703 390832 07974 659206 (Mob) e-mail: kpb298@soton.ac.uk Cheers Kevin (Skunks) ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 14:58:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06714 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:56:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06604 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:56:01 GMT Received: from mps1.leeds.ac.uk (mps1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05388 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:56:00 GMT Received: from east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (east-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.6]) by mps1.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05485 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:55:57 GMT Message-Id: <199911081455.OAA05485@mps1.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H15/SpoolDir by east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Nov 99 14:55:41 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H15 (Mercury 1.45); 8 Nov 99 14:55:40 GMT From: "Silk" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:55:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: YMCA X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello britdiscers Can anyone give me the number or the YMCA in Cheltenham or perhaps another source of cheap accommodation in Cheltenham. We don't want to travel too far on the saturday morning to get to the ego wang fest (20th Nov). Cheers Ben Silk _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 8 17:52:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21304 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:49:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28964 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:59:10 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04150 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:59:05 GMT Received: from host212-140-124-133.host.btclick.com ([62.172.82.92]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <19991108165840.RPJY15533.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host212-140-124-133.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:58:40 +0000 Received: by host212-140-124-133.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF2A0A.39D71620@host212-140-124-133.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:56:39 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF2A0A.39D71620@host212-140-124-133.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" , "'Silk'" Subject: RE: YMCA Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:48:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA29557 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all those going to Ego Wang Fest; There is a minor technical hitch for all those wanting really cheap accommodation that weekend that we hadn't realised. The RAC rally is coming to town as well. The usual places that we use are not available. However if you mail Merrick Cardew (merrick.cardew@G4Tech.co.uk) he may be able to allocate you floorspace at some of the houses around chelt and Evesham. Also if you are trying for other accommodation here are two websites that may help; Cheltenham website inc Tourist office phone and contact details www.cheltweb.co.uk/contact and a B&B listing engine; www.s-h.systems.co.uk/cheltenham.html Chris ---------- From: Silk[SMTP:edu9bjs@EAST-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK] Sent: 08 November 1999 14:55 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: YMCA Hello britdiscers Can anyone give me the number or the YMCA in Cheltenham or perhaps another source of cheap accommodation in Cheltenham. We don't want to travel too far on the saturday morning to get to the ego wang fest (20th Nov). Cheers Ben Silk _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 12:28:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18492 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:27:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18481 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:27:09 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26690 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:27:08 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tnc09708.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.11.57]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24771 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:27:15 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:27:15 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199911101227.MAA24771@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: women's indoor tournament Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WOMEN'S INDOOR TOURNAMENT - Oxford. December 11/12th. (I know this clashes with GB training but: it's the only weekend free; the weather will be shit outdoors!; what better practice than playing in a tournament! Limited to 10 teams. Cheques for 70 pounds to: Tara Jewell 10 Tyndale Road Oxford OX4 1JL tel: 01865 246158 email: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 12:38:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22970 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:36:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22845 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:36:05 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28839 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:36:04 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tnc09708.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.11.57]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA26769 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:36:09 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 12:36:09 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199911101236.MAA26769@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB training Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, GB training - Anyone know when or where? Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 13:36:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22494 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:34:12 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22484 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:34:09 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:37:06 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: GB Training Session on Saturday 13 November Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all players wishing to try out for any of the GB Ultimate Teams ... The next training session will be held this coming Saturday 13 November at the same venue in Woughton Park, Milton Keynes as the last one in October. Full details including times and directions will be posted very soon by Patch Winser who has kindly agreed to sort out the logistics on this occasion. My apologies to all those who have been desperately awaiting such an annoucement, but a number of circumstances have led to difficulties in agreeing a time and venue. I hope that the clash with the recently scheduled England v Scotland football match will not adversely affect the turn-out - the plan is to make suitable allowances to let people do both. Hope to see you all there. Cheers Sam Neilson PS Plans for an indoor GB Guts training session are in hand - watch this space! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 15:19:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14616 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:17:36 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14590 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:17:33 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0056900005342343000002L032*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:20:07 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: GB Training Session on Saturday 13 November Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Can any one help me... Why are GB practices now on Saturdays? >Is this a permanent thing? >Surly more people can get to the Sunday Practices.. > >Hannah Hannah The 'pre-annoucement' about this coming Saturday does not say, nor suggest, that ALL GB PRACTICES ARE NOW ON SATURDAYS. There can be problems booking fields on Sundays because it is popular for ALL the Sunday league sports (as is the case with booking the MK venue for the Sunday 14 November) ... however, that is not to say that there will NEVER be GB sessions on Sundays. The GB management team (once it officially comes into being!) will be looking into all such issues and we will also be looking for willing volunteers to book and publicise suitable venues - do you know of any that we (you) can book for Sundays? When Chris Hughes earmarked the monthly GB sessions in the diary he pointed out that they would typically be ONE DAY, rather than TWO DAY events. We will add your comments to the melting pot of ideas and make future annoucements and requests for help and support in a more timely manner. I cannot apologise enough for the delay in the annoucement for this coming weekend's practice, but as I said above the 5+1 management team is not yet formally in place - some of the delay is a result of unavoidable BUF red tape, but most is because a Women's Division Manager has not yet been appointed. Illness, paid work and communications problems have also played their part. Hope to see (some of you) on Saturday - thanks again for your patience. Sam Neilson (Sole applicant for the post of) GB General Manager ... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 15:45:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25043 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:44:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25033 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:43:59 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24041 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:43:58 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id QAA27650 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:43:46 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma027644; Wed, 10 Nov 99 16:43:46 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA28133 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:43:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA01471 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:43:05 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900005344549; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:44:03 +0100 To: Subject: GB Message-ID: <0056900005344549000002L092*@MHS> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:44:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 11/10/99 16:41:25" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA25036 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry Sammy, It was not a dig, just an observation. I dont really now of anywhere that would be suitable for practices, for worlds we would train in Regents Park. Would that be a possibility? Sundays would just mean that we could actually do those rear things like shopping, seeing friends and getting hair cut! Later Hannah ps I NEED a hair cut! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 15:48:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22972 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:32:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22956 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:32:34 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08618; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:32:27 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id PAA22760; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:32:26 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma022757; Wed, 10 Nov 99 15:32:26 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA14391; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:32:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id PAA03827; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:32:19 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900005342343; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:32:52 +0100 To: , Subject: Re: GB Training Session on Saturday 13 November Message-ID: <0056900005342343000002L032*@MHS> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:32:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 11/10/99 15:30:44" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA22961 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can any one help me... Why are GB practices now on Saturdays? Is this a permanent thing? Surly more people can get to the Sunday Practices.. Hannah owner-britdisc on 10/11/99 13:45:36 To: britdisc @ SMTP cc: Subject: GB Training Session on Saturday 13 November Classification: Restricted To all players wishing to try out for any of the GB Ultimate Teams ... The next training session will be held this coming Saturday 13 November at the same venue in Woughton Park, Milton Keynes as the last one in October. Full details including times and directions will be posted very soon by Patch Winser who has kindly agreed to sort out the logistics on this occasion. My apologies to all those who have been desperately awaiting such an annoucement, but a number of circumstances have led to difficulties in agreeing a time and venue. I hope that the clash with the recently scheduled England v Scotland football match will not adversely affect the turn-out - the plan is to make suitable allowances to let people do both. Hope to see you all there. Cheers Sam Neilson PS Plans for an indoor GB Guts training session are in hand - watch this space! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 16:03:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05878 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:02:42 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05844 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:02:39 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:05:35 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: GB Training Session TIMES Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all players wishing to try out for any of the GB Ultimate Teams ... Further to my last posting, we have pencilled in an arrival time of 9:30 aiming to have kit on and stretched ready to play for 10:00 ... we know that the football match kicks off at 2pm and that if the pavilion does not have a TV with Sky coverage of the match, then one of the nearby pubs should have! Patch does not have e-mail from work, so his follow-up with full details and directions will not arrive on britdisc until after office hours. He did say that the pitches he has booked on on the other side of the pavilion to last time - so not quite the exact same fields as the October session. Cheers, Sam Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 20:08:41 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22210 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:07:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22203 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:07:55 GMT Received: from mta1-svc.virgin.net (mta1-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.54.142]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20375 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:07:55 GMT Received: from [62.252.38.223] by mta1-svc.virgin.net (InterMail v4.01.01.02 201-229-111-106) with ESMTP id <19991110200841.BGXH22633.mta1-svc@[62.252.38.223]> for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:08:41 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:05:11 +0000 Subject: Fubar From: Keith Baker To: Britdisc Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Fubar, I have just moved to Gloucester and have heard their is a team called Fubar in the area if anyone from the team reads this or can give me a contact then I would be greatful, or any Ultimate in the Cheltenham, Gloucester area. Ta PS hello Fingers and Chevron Keith Baker email: the4.bakers@virgin.net From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 21:13:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08296 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:12:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08288 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:12:43 GMT From: neil.cooper@usa.net Received: from nwcst267.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst267.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25003 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:12:42 GMT Received: (qmail 11410 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 1999 21:11:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19991110211158.11409.qmail@nwcst267.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.12 by nwcst267 for [203.109.136.84] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Wed Nov 10 21:11:58 GMT 1999 Date: 10 Nov 99 14:11:58 MST To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tournament Report (for a change) X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA08289 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Seems to be far too much dull stuff on britdisc at the moment. Need some more tournament reports - interesting debates - or do all those go out the window until summer starts up again ? I know, what about an ex-pat filter so that we don't have to overuse the delete key ..... blah, blah, blah ... Anyway - a tournament report from the other side of the world for you .... Date : 23/24/25th October (Labour Day weekend) Venue : Taupo, Central North Island, New Zealand The Taupo Hat 1999. Ultimate players converged on Lake Taupo in the heart of North Island, about 3 1/2 hours South of Auckland and 5 hours North of Wellington for 3 days of sunshine, hot spa pools and ultimate. About 70 players in all. The first day was split mens / womens and 3 mens teams played round robin (twice), with the women split into 2 teams playing games to 21. Weather was hot and sunny and there was free sun cream from the tounament organisers, thankfully. The Sunday and Monday was the tournament proper. The players were split into 5 teams to play round robin with the top 2 playing off in a final. As with nearly all NZ ultimate the play was strictly co-ed with a 5/2 split. Team shirts were provided - with a Cluedo emphasis, hence the teams being Mrs White, Miss Scarlet, Mrs Peacock, Professor Plum and Reverend Green. Sundays play was in mixed conditions, but with only two rain showers it was warm enough to dry off quickly. The Sunday play finished early(ish) for everyone to go down to the outdoor AC baths in Taupo for relaxation and food - thrown in was use of the pool BBQ. The hot thermal pools were a great way to relax the muscles, I can highly recommend it how about Ross 2000, stop people moaning about the showers!. Sunday night was the rugby (1 a.m. for England v South Africa - enough said, 6 a.m. NZ v Scotland - got through that one but enough said a week later !!). Monday the weather was back to its glorious best (I got a bit lobstered), and Reverend Green came through in the final against Mrs White to win the tourney remaining unbeaten. Haven't got the full results etc but the pictures can be seen on .... http://members.tripod.com/neil.cooper where you can pick out some ex-pats (me in Rev Green, Kath (?Cath) ex F6/CAF in Rev Green too, the wife in Professor Plum and probably some Kiwis that you may recognise from your / their trips). Hopes all's well in the UK and its not too cold and wet. Coops. x Headrush 14 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 10 22:00:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18473 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:59:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18458 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:59:43 GMT Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13950 for ; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:59:38 GMT Received: from modem-86.zyprexa.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.95.214] helo=pc06q) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11lfm8-0004Kb-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:59:33 +0000 Message-ID: <003f01bf2bc6$bb1e3020$d65f883e@pc06q> From: "Patch Winser" To: Subject: GB Practice on the 13th of November Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:52:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF2BC5.EEBBCCE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF2BC5.EEBBCCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all Yes the pitches are booked for the Saturday as Sammy has confirmed.=20 They are further to the left of the pavilion than the ones we played on = last time due to a junior footy program that is just starting up. Practice is due to start at 9:30am so that all interested can get a good = practice in and still catch the football. I am assuming that the = pavilion will be having coverage but I am not positive as I have never = been there. Directions for those who have not been there, >From the M1 get off at Exit 14 and turn towards Milton Keynes. First = big roundabout take the second road, H6, next roundabout take a right. = Keep going until you see the golden arches on the left. Turn right at = the roundabout - I think it is H10, not positive. Go straight on that = for a few roundabouts, at one point you will see a smoke stack on your = right you are getting close. Look for signs to turn off to the left for Woughton on the Green. As = soon as you turn off you will turn right and go under the road you were = just on. Right after that you should see a sign for the sports fields = parking lot on the right. Park and walk to the Pavilion. Once in Front = of the Pavilion, when facing the fields head left. We are somewhere in = that directions. I think we are on the other side of a footpath. =20 If you are coming from the other side of Milton Keynes than the M1 you = should be arriving on the A421, just keep following it past the hospital = you will come to two quick roundabouts. You should see signs for = Woughton on the Green. Go straight and you should see signs for Woughton = on the Green. It should be on the left shortly after the roundabouts. = When you turn off look to turn right right away and then left into the = parking lot. Hope I have not completely confused you all. =20 See you all there bright and early. Patch=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF2BC5.EEBBCCE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
 
Yes the pitches are booked for the Saturday = as Sammy=20 has confirmed.
 
They are further to the left of the pavilion = than the=20 ones we played on last time due to a junior footy program that is just = starting=20 up.
 
Practice is due to start at 9:30am so that = all=20 interested can get a good practice in and still catch the = football.  I am=20 assuming that the pavilion will be having coverage but I am not positive = as I=20 have never been there.
 
Directions for those who have not been=20 there,
 
From the M1 get off at Exit 14 and turn = towards Milton=20 Keynes.  First big roundabout take the second road, H6, next = roundabout=20 take a right.  Keep going until you see the golden arches on the = left. Turn=20 right at the roundabout - I think it is H10, not positive.  Go = straight on=20 that for a few roundabouts, at one point you will see a smoke stack on = your=20 right you are getting close.
 
Look for signs to turn off to the left for = Woughton on=20 the Green. As soon as you turn off you will turn right and go under the = road you=20 were just on.  Right after that you should see a sign for the = sports fields=20 parking lot on the right.  Park and walk to the Pavilion.  = Once in=20 Front of the Pavilion, when facing the fields head left. We are = somewhere in=20 that directions. I think we are on the other side of  a = footpath. =20
 
If you are coming from the other side of = Milton Keynes=20 than the M1 you should be arriving on the A421, just keep following it = past the=20 hospital you will come to two quick roundabouts. You should see signs = for=20 Woughton on the Green. Go straight and you should see signs for Woughton = on the=20 Green. It should be on the left shortly after the roundabouts. When you = turn off=20 look to turn right right away and then left into the parking = lot.
 
Hope I have not completely confused you=20 all.  
 
See you all there bright and = early.
 
Patch 
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF2BC5.EEBBCCE0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 11 09:46:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14873 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:45:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14861 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:45:53 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12499 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:45:51 GMT Received: from scaramanga (actually host scaramanga.open.ac.uk) by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01) with ESMTP; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:45:59 +0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991111094317.00be19a0@blake.open.ac.uk> X-Sender: john@blake.open.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:50:15 +0000 To: britdisc From: John Domingue Subject: Re: GB Practice on the 13th of November In-Reply-To: <003f01bf2bc6$bb1e3020$d65f883e@pc06q> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You can find a map of milton keynes at http://www.open.ac.uk/maps/local.html. Woughton on the Green is directly above the Open University - in between the V8 and the V10 and the H7 and H8. Use junction 13 of the M1 if you're coming from the south and junction 14 if you're coming from the north. john (long time MK citizen) _______________________________________________________ John Domingue | J.B.Domingue@open.ac.uk Knowledge Media Institute, The Open University Walton Hall, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA, UK WWWeb: http://kmi.open.ac.uk/people/domingue/ Tel. +44 1908 65-5014 (Fax -3169) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 11 10:27:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28773 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28650 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:19 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04553 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:18 GMT Received: from suave.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@suave.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.124.158]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id KAA09343; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:17 GMT Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by suave.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22551; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:17 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: suave.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:16 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: g.b.legg@sms.ed.ac.uk Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Captains Meeting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Due to very restricted hall time Geoff would like to hold the captains meeting on Friday night in the pub. This is due to be held at 11:30 (ish). Can everyone please try to get there by then. 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Our current squad is 22+coaches and we have only been given 2 teams... Obviously they will party (and play) with the usual Farf Lung gusto and will generally enrich your team. Email me or I'll see you in the Physician on Fridae Nite. Bryce Captain of Farf Lung, Ultimate at Glasgow University oh alright and mudculture too ===== \|||/ (@@) ooO_(_ )_Ooo________________________________ _____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____| ___|____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____ _____|____|_____|_____|_____|Bryce woz 'ere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Please make cheques payable to Aber guild of students and send them to: Alex Livingstone 42 Pentre Jane Morgan Penglais Aberystwyth Ceredigion SY23 3TE They should get to you within a week. --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 11 16:24:18 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06547 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:16:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06453 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:16:37 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f129.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25173 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:16:31 GMT Received: (qmail 2181 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 1999 16:15:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991111161559.2180.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.168 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:15:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.168] From: "Jester Bit" To: all7@aber.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Re: Discs for sale Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:15:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Shooting Stars will also have discs for sale at Beginners, available in quantites of one, for £7. Bes* Jes* >From: Alex Livingstone >Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" >To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" , >"student-ultimate@egroups.com" >Subject: Discs for sale >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:59:07 -0000 > >Sorry to those who will get this twice. > >Mwnci See have discs for sale and will be taking them to the Edinburgh >beginners tournament and any other tournament that we go to. They cost 6.50 >pounds for the white ones and 7.50 for the very limited number of blue >sparkle or nite-glow, follow the link to see our design: >http://www.badpen.com/ultimate/imgs/disc_large.jpg > >We are also willing to accept orders by mail. Postage and packaging will be >1 pound per disc. Postage for bulk orders will be looked in to. E-mail or >phone 01970 625567 for more information. > >Please make cheques payable to Aber guild of students and send them to: > >Alex Livingstone >42 Pentre Jane Morgan >Penglais >Aberystwyth >Ceredigion >SY23 3TE > >They should get to you within a week. > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Alex Livingstone >President of Mwnci See >University of Wales, Aberystwyth >Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk >--------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 11 17:36:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20020 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:35:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20000 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:35:04 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06385 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:35:04 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id RAA27256; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:34:33 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991111173442.00844870@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:34:42 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: Players for the GB co-ed team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, As Co-ed manager-type-person I'm currently trying to gauge the level of interest for the GB co-ed (or mixed, as I believe the official name is) team. If you're intending to play I'd appreciate you filling in the rather small form below: Name : Team : Sex : Email access? : Email address : Is co-ed your first choice? : If you're coming along to the practice in Milton Keynes this weekend I'll be collecting details then, so you don't need to do this now, but it would save time if you did. Can those who know of teammates or friends who are keen to play, but don't have access to Britdisc pass this message on? Thanks in advance for your help, Jeff. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 11 17:37:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20863 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:36:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20843 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:36:54 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f113.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.113]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06544 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:36:53 GMT Received: (qmail 26184 invoked by uid 0); 11 Nov 1999 17:36:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19991111173620.26183.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.168 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:36:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.168] From: "Jester Bit" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: [student-ultimate] Re: Discs for sale Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:36:20 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ooops! Sorry if you got the wrong idea, the discs are not our own design, but little sparkly silver Chevvy Action Flash numbers. We should have some of our own shirts for sale though! Bes* Jes* >From: "Jester Bit" >Reply-To: student-ultimate@egroups.com >To: all7@aber.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, >student-ultimate@egroups.com >Subject: [student-ultimate] Re: Discs for sale >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:15:59 PST > >Shooting Stars will also have discs for sale at Beginners, available in >quantites of one, for £7. > >Bes* >Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 11 18:58:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17666 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:57:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17658 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:57:54 GMT Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10197 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:57:53 GMT Message-Id: <199911111857.SAA10197@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:57:17 +0000 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 11 Nov 99 18:57:18 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.43); 11 Nov 99 18:57:10 GMT0BST From: No Frills To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 18:57:00 GMT0BST Subject: SW Indoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those involved, I'll be sending out maps and final details tomorrow so I guess you'll get them Monday. Get in touch if you don't receive anything. Hope you're all looking forward to it as much as we are. see y'all soon Si. simple By the way I've received cheques from all teams but there is a bit of a problem with the cheque from URIEL. You've made it payable to "UWE Ultimate Frisbee Club" when it should have been "UWC Ultimate Frisbee Club" could you please sort us out with another cheque and I will dispose of the other. Please e-mail me to let me know if you get this message. No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 12 10:22:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19648 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:21:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19630 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:21:26 GMT Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24173 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:21:26 GMT Message-Id: <199911121021.KAA24173@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:20:47 +0000 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 12 Nov 99 10:20:48 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.43); 12 Nov 99 10:20:32 GMT0BST From: No Frills To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:20:31 GMT0BST Subject: SW Indoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick note to UWE and Uriel. Will you guys need places to stay Friday and Saturday night? Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 12 10:59:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04509 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:58:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04480 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:58:05 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (root@muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28099 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:58:03 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id KAA17935 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:58:02 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:58:02 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:58:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Contacts For Beginners Tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, If anyone travelling today to Edinburgh for the beginners tournament gets delayed can they please phone (0131) 2288337 before 7pm and 0780 1234001 after that. If you miss closing time at the pub (1am) please phone the 1st No and we'll try to sort you out. Hope you all have a safe journey, I'll see you tonight for a couple of cheeky bevies. Paul Eastman RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 12 12:28:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15949 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:26:47 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15868; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:26:39 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:29:33 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Lift to MK from Midlands Cc: Steve Shipley Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick plea to ask if any kind soul is driving to Milton Keynes tomorrow morning to attend the GB Training Session via the Kenilworth/L-Spa/Coventry area ... any room for one passenger (will share petrol)?? Please reply to: Sam Neilson H: 01926 864 276 W: 024 7652 3880 [-> 4:30pm on Friday] E: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Many thanks Sammy. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 12 18:16:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00335 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:13:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00330 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:13:54 GMT Received: from besson.vip.uk.com (besson.vip.uk.com [194.176.202.250]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29911 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:13:53 GMT Received: from modem-51-21-60-62.vip.uk.com ([62.60.21.51] helo=dsorvtwg) by besson.vip.uk.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11mMJ7-0004Xh-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:24:25 +0000 From: "bex" To: Subject: Cornish Frisbee Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:15:29 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi I'm trying to get hold of anyone in Cornwall whose interested in playing a little disc (or already is). Picnic in the Sky is a little to far (not to mention cross the river in fo'rn parts) for me to get there regularly (ie at all!) Hello Bud are you out there? Love Bex (sometime Mythago/Village People) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 14 12:58:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08402 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:57:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08393 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:57:24 GMT Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15752 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:57:23 GMT Received: from modem-48.orange-shoulder-tang.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.49.48] helo=hal9000) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #0) id 11mzDe-0001xV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:57:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01bf2e9f$927ce680$3031893e@hal9000> From: "Benjamin Crick" To: Subject: SE Student indoors Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 12:55:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2E9F.90D948A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2E9F.90D948A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to all those attending the SE Student Indoor Qualifiers.=20 We have now arranged accomodation (floor space!) for any the teams that = need it. Please could you e-mail me about the number of players you are = bringing if you have not done so already. Also are any of you coming = down on the Friday night? If so then could you tellm me also. You will = be introduced to your host on the day. E-mail me if you need directions = to our humble Uni or if you have any other questions.. As usual we have a party organised for you on the saturday night so = bring your best party frocks and let all loose... =20 Seein Ya Soon... Ben Crick AKA "Stroke" the captain Mohawks ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2E9F.90D948A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello to all those attending the SE Student Indoor = Qualifiers.=20
 
We have now arranged accomodation (floor space!) for = any the=20 teams that need it. Please could you e-mail me about the number of = players you=20 are bringing if you have not done so already. Also are any of you coming = down on=20 the Friday night? If so then could you tellm me also. You will=20 be introduced to your host on the day. E-mail me if you need = directions to=20 our humble Uni or if you have any other questions..
 
 As usual we have a party organised for you on = the=20 saturday night so bring your best party frocks and let all loose... =20
 
Seein Ya Soon...
 
Ben Crick
AKA "Stroke" the captain
Mohawks
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF2E9F.90D948A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 15 07:48:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10864 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:47:06 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10859 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:47:05 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10459 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA07921 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199911150747.HAA07921@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 20th November 1999 Ego Wang Fest II [Cheltenham Indoors] (2 days) @ Cheltenham Recreation Centre, Cheltenham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Merrick Cardew Address Lan-Kidden Murcot Turn Broadway Worcestershire WR12 7HT Email merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk Phone 01386 830136 (home) 01684 277114 (work) 07971 458860 (mobile) Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 Cindy [Scottish/Northern Student Indoors] (2 days) @ Strathclyde University sports centre, Glasgow [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Leigh Simmons Email fatleigh@hotmail.com Phone 0141 331 0295 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kevin Blanch Address 36 Thackeray Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Email kpb298@soton.ac.uk Phone 01703 390832 07974 659206 (mobile) Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 15 13:21:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08570 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:18:24 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08545 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:18:20 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 13:21:16 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Thornton, Paul R" Subject: RE: GB Training Session on Saturday 13 November Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul.Thornton@capgemini.co.uk writes: Is someone collecting lost property from Saturday? I found a white Eastbourne disk shoved in my stuff. Cheers, Paul [If this is yours - please contact Paul direct Paul.Thornton@capgemini.co.uk] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 15 16:36:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02125 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:33:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05323 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:36:22 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01783 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:32:47 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tb38d5f9.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.16.60]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA22959 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:32:48 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:32:48 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199911151532.PAA22959@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Calendar Ultimate 2000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:44:05 -0800 >To: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk >From: Progress Editor >Subject: Calendar Ultimate 2000 > >Tara, > >Just wanted to let everyone know that the Year 2000 Ultimate Calendar is >ready, and it looks fabulous. >Poster-sized calendar for the year 2000, with some of the hottest Ultimate >photographs of the best players doing what they do best at tournaments like >UPA Collegiate Nationals and UPA Nationals... > >To order: >Send $16. usa (includes world-wide shipping) to: >Rick Collins >49249 Camp River Road, Chilliwack, B.C. Canada V2P 6H4 > >Can you spread the word please? > >Best Regards, Rick. > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 15 16:47:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08110 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:44:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08073 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:44:36 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA22805 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:44:35 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA00900 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:22:25 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:22:25 GMT Message-Id: <000101bf2f88$e9daedc0$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Cc: "Merrick Cardew" Subject: Ego Wang Fest Update Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:46:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Teams Entered : - Whiplash - Angels 1 - Angels 2 - Look At Me - Bears 1 - Bears 2 - Slip Disc - Mwnci See - Far Flung - Shrub - BaBoom - Sneeekys - Mild Mannered Janitors - WYWS All-Stars - LCF & Nightfever - Point Blank - Red - BAF 1 - BAF 2 - Fubar - Mexican Horse Bandits - Stebbo's Team - Team Latte - Lemmings All accomodation for Saturday night will be organised on Saturday during the day so please ensure that you contact a member of BAF 1 or 2 at the weekend (Mez will not be able to do anything before then so there's no point e-mailing him). See You Saturday Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 15 18:08:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07132 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:07:32 GMT Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07124 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:07:30 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25335; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:07:29 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 15 Nov 99 18:07:28 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 15 Nov 99 18:07:12 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:07:07 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Disc Golf - facts and figs CC: bdga@egroups.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <6A9D16867C8@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello! Nobody wants to be branded a statto but it is useful to have a few facts and figures handy to convince people that the sport is organised and has a growing number of competitors. The latest issue of Disc Golf World News has some provisional stats from the PDGA for 1999 which I thought I would share with you all. Professional Disc Golf Association (PDGA) all time members over 15000, currently paid up 5650, which is 12-13% up on last year. PDGA sanctioned 333 tournaments, an increase of 22% on 1998 Estimated 30000 player entries in those events Tour purse estimated to be close to $700,000 Top tournament purse was $50,000 for Worlds, 12 tournaments had between $10,000 - 20,000 prize noney. Top pros Ken Climo and Ron Russel each won $20,000 110 courses added to the PDGA course directory between Jan 1st and September 1st. Installed courses expected to pass 1000 mark early next year. The above does not cover the much larger amount of activity at recreational level. Most players do not join PDGA nor compete in sanctioned events. One pay-for-play course in California has 50,000 rounds played per year. Most courses are free and no record of activity exists. >>>>>>>>>>> BDGA membership stands at 125, of whom about 2/3 are paid up. Anyone wishing to take up disc golf can contact me. The British Disc Golf Association has a web site at www.ultimateweb.co.uk/bdga there is more current information at www.discgolf.co.uk If you want discs contact me at discs@frisbee.co.uk Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 16 11:41:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19435 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:39:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19413 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:39:17 GMT Received: from tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.50.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA24801 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:39:17 GMT Received: from localhost (tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk) [127.0.0.1] by tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #1) id 11ngx3-0003Bp-00; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:39:09 +0000 From: Benjamin Crick To: Kevin.Noble@pgen.com Subject: Re: SE Regional Student Indoor Qualifiers Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:38:05 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <8025682A.004BD38B.00@WESTD90.pgen.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8025682A.004BD38B.00@WESTD90.pgen.co.uk> Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99111611390604.04853@tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The captains meeting will be at 09:00 with the first game starting at 09:30. See you all soon. On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, you wrote: > Ben, > > What time is the captain's meeting on Saturday? > > see you then > Kevin > > > This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read > by those to whom it is addressed. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or > publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete > the message from your computer and destroy any copies. > > This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without > subsequent written confirmation of its contents. This company therefore > disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability of any kind which > may arise from any person acting, or refraining from acting, upon the > contents of the message without having had subsequent written > confirmation. > > If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems > occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on > +44 (0)2476 425474 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 16 11:44:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21161 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:43:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21146 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:43:19 GMT Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25742 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:43:19 GMT Received: from bute.sms.ed.ac.uk (bute.sms.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.11]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA15744 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:43:18 GMT Message-Id: <199911161143.LAA15744@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> Received: from SMS-BUTE/SpoolDir by bute.sms.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 16 Nov 99 11:43:18 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SMS-BUTE (Mercury 1.44); 16 Nov 99 11:43:00 +0000 From: "GEOFF" <9726035@bute.sms.ed.ac.uk> Organization: Student Mail Service To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:42:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: eedinburgh beginners tourni. report X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Final Positions 1 Phat Eds 1 2 Cupid Stunts 3 Jedi 1 4 Jedi 2 5 Flying Sorcerers 2 6 Reservoir Fish 7 Mohawks 8 RSB 1 9 Phat Eds 2 10 Flying Sorcerers 1 11 Strange Blue 12 Yorkie Bar Kids 13 RSB 2 14 The Source 15 Northern Lights 2 16 Pookas 17 Dross Magic 18 Fingers 6 19 Far Flung 2 20 Hulltimate 21 Shooting Stars 1 22 Falling Skies 23 Disciples 24 Northern Lights 1 25 Purple Haze 26 Mwnci See 27 Far Flung 1 28 Jesters 2 29 Jesters 1 30 Shooting Stars 2 31 Sneeekys 32 RSB 3 So for those of you that aren't much good with the 8 times table, this all means that the 'winners' were: The balloon whisk of shame: RSB 3 The Wooden spoon (and holder): Purple Haze The cup (for the bottom 16): Dross Magic The plate (for the second 8): Phat Eds 2 The Edinburgh beginners Decanter: Phat Eds 1 and for the important prizes: The Three pint challenge: womens: RSB mixed: Phat Eds Mens with 18 seconds : Phat Eds Party prizes: Alternative party: Mohawks Original party: Reservoir Fish Sharking (sizzling dish): Karren from RSB hon. mention for Tim Jenkins from Fish Hat: Strange Blue (Indian head dress) Spirit: Northern Lights 1 So what went on at the tournament? To be totally honest, the tournament was fairly uneventful and shamefully small scale. There were a mere 112 games played and most of them ended with a result, without risking boring all of you, a list of results, or even an overview of results would be impossible. Needless to say what you really want to hear is a list of damages ensued at the party. (By the way if anyone from the party venue wants contact details for the Ro-sham-bo club don't give them any, a few clubs have already been approached). We broke one table, pulled three brackets of the wall (cauing serious structural defects in the pub wall) destroyed one awning (approximate size 15ft by 4 ft) and smashed just over 100 pint glasses, had one ambulance called and excited the interest of approximately 15 policemen. Needless to say, the venue is trying to contact us to make us account for damages, and all frisbee players nation wide have been banned from the three quarters sports cafe. If anyone has any bright ideas for a slightly larger and more accomodating venue for next years party, I would be delighted to field any imaginative ideas as it is unlikely we would be invited back to the same place, and besides the pub concerned has changed it's policy on bookings for major sports fixtures. The pub was used to holding rugby parties, which as you can imagine are significantly tamer. On top of all this, it was good to see about 60 breasts (30 pairs) uncovered to the bare essentials (as is tradition for the beginners tournament), so all in all, I would say the evening was enjoyable! On top of this party, the second party held at the club Gaia was also deemed a success, and with Mohawks and Mwnci See leading the way, another venue has been struck off our list of possible hosts for next year, I've not heard as extensive an itinerary for damages, but I'm sure there was one of a comparable scale. I'm told there was a fare deal of sharking going on as well, but I have to admit, I saw none of it. Having said that there were 20 different cases of considerable weight put forward for the sharking prize and a lot of teams complained that there was only one space per team for a nomination for the award of the 'sizzling dish'. However, the prize, after much consultation was awarded to the most elligable pair (in Tim from FISH and Karren from RSB) if you know either of these two, the full details really are worth a read, if anyone finds out all the gory details, a posting over the web wouldn't fo amiss! So down to the tournament, Congratulations to Phat Eds winning the Decanter and the Plate, and congratulations also to Dross Magic and Purple haze for clearing up prizes in the bottom 16, that is all bar one extremely sought after prize. A hard fought final derby between out very own home grown Sneeekys and RSB3 led to an eventual and undeserving winner of the balloon whisk of shame - RSB3. Well done! Seriously though, I must admit, despite being an impartial scorer of course, it was excellent to see Cupid Stunts percentage play defensive zone beaten in the final by a more risky man on side in Phat Eds. So a final pat on the back for them. (PS nice speech DJ, I was flattered). Well, that will probably do for now, so thanks all for coming, I hope you all enjoyed it and no doubt most of you will be back next year for the 9th annual Edinburgh beginners tournament 2000. See you then  GEOFF RSB g.b.legg@sms.ed.ac.uk (0131) 2288337 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 16 12:32:30 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09827 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09815 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:43 GMT Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.115]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05436 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:42 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA17969; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id HAA12325; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 07:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id MAA03148; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:05 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:05 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A021001A5@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB Open Team - Informal London Practice Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:30:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All those who are interested in playing for the Open squad this year, I have arranged an informal practice on Sunday in Clapham. As discussed, we hope to be practising regularly through the winter (both in London and elsewhere). This will include the current Monday night session in Tooting as well as bi-weekly Sunday practices. We will try to have weekly Sunday practices once we are through the worst of the winter. Details: Clapham Common (by Eagle Pond) Sunday Nov. 21 at 12pm (Noon) Please contact me if you are interested in attending. Aram From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 16 13:11:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24003 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:08:59 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23958 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:08:50 GMT From: 97607681@mmu.ac.uk Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06288 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:08:49 GMT Received: from magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.17.46]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 11niM1-0006RL-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:09:01 +0000 Received: from MMU-ART-MAGELLAN/SpoolDir by magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 16 Nov 99 13:08:45 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-ART-MAGELLAN (Mercury 1.31); 16 Nov 99 13:08:28 GMT Organization: MMU To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:08:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: F6 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <3C0C21566F8@magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry britdisc, this is for Chewy(ex jedi) Sorry I've not been in touch with you sooner, but my home computer is F6uked.. It is great news that you can play with Fingers 6, now we might be able to qualify with you and stan(chevron) on the team.. If you want to come and have a practice with us we only have one more practice session before the tournament, which is this friday between 5 and 7. The practice is at the sports centre, at the Didsbury Campus in Didsbury, it is oppisite the Old Cock pub, But if you can't make it we will see you in Sheffield.. If you need any more information, please send e-mails to this address.. See you soon James F6... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 16 13:49:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09224 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:46:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09219 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:46:51 GMT Received: from epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk (root@epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk [139.184.162.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15054 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:46:51 GMT Received: from localhost (348 bytes) by epunix.biols.susx.ac.uk via sendmail with P:stdio/R:acukbind/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:46:50 +0000 (GMT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #10 built 1998-Feb-1) Message-Id: From: kevinbr@biols.susx.ac.uk (Kevin Brooks) Subject: Desperately seeking Possum To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:46:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are you out there, Possum? Does anyone have contact details for him? Locks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 16 14:41:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00265 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:40:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00218 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:40:01 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19252 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:40:00 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11njm4-0006W4-01; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:40:00 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 16 Nov 99 14:40:01 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 16 Nov 99 14:39:52 +0000 From: "Pete Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:39:48 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: student Indoor finals bids X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <48FF8B393C@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello, All those intending to bid for the Student indoor finals should submit their bid by no later than 12midday on Monday the 29th of November. Peter James Coy lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk 0114 2682379 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 17 12:43:24 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04475 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:39:37 GMT Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04454 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:39:35 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05473 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:39:33 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 17 Nov 99 12:39:34 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 17 Nov 99 12:39:15 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:39:14 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: TV appearance - Collectors Lot X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <6D45B263CDF@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, For anyone who happens to be near a TV screen tomorrow at 3.30 to 4.00 p.m. you could tune in to Channel 4 and view Collectors Lot. I should be appearing for a few minutes surrounded by a large assortment of flying discs. Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 17 13:04:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13832 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:01:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13797 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:01:00 GMT Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20258 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:01:00 GMT Message-Id: <199911171301.NAA20258@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP-LOC (PP); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 13:00:24 +0000 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.43); 17 Nov 99 13:00:24 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.43); 17 Nov 99 12:56:58 GMT0BST From: No Frills To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:56:55 GMT0BST Subject: SW Indoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Everything is looking set for the weekend. Saturday night's social is a lookalike party in the Union so get thinking on that. I'm still not sure if Uriel or Picnic are arriving onFriday or Saturday. Please let me know. Other than that I'll look forward to seeing you Saturday at 9.30 for the captains' meeting. Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 17 14:09:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29875 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:07:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29867 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:07:15 GMT Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29727 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 14:07:14 GMT Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:07:53 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:16:01 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: If you were at Lurkers... Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:07:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK this isn't going to affect many people, but if you bought anything on a Switch card at the Black Swan pub at the Lurkers weekend back in August, then check your bank statements. The buggers have only just debited the money I spent, and they did so twice. They may have picked me out for special treatment, but this may be their policy, so.... I will try not to let it sour the memory of an otherwise fine tournament. :-) Cheers Wayne Angels, Overflow, Albatross, whatever Home 020 8675 9180 Work 020 7298 3365 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 17 19:19:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05327 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:12:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05268 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:11:56 GMT From: ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA14094 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:11:55 GMT Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id TAA09647; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:06:36 GMT Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaf06695; Wed, 17 Nov 99 19:03:11 GMT Received: from intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FLC00DAJVL8UZ@olive.uk.pw.com> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:03:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: by intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8025682C.006794C5 ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:51:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 18:52:13 +0000 Subject: Looking for Wyld Stallions To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <8025682C.00674A59.00@intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: EMEA-UK@INTL Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin or any other Stallions looking to play at the Cheltenham Ego Wang Fest. I spoke to Colin and we now have a team entered for the tournament. Could any of the people looking to play in that team please contact me to send on details etc. Ian Stebbing ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 17 19:28:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12624 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:27:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12614 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:27:27 GMT Received: from mail24.svr.pol.co.uk (mail24.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.220]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17684 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:27:26 GMT Received: from modem-59.carbon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.2.187] helo=default) by mail24.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #0) id 11oAjl-0007jY-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:27:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001001bf3131$b2f7b540$bb02883e@default> From: "Lewis Glover" To: Subject: lift to Brighton Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:24:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF3131.6C83D1C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF3131.6C83D1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 Is any one for imperial or any one else going to Brighton from London = able to give a budding young frisbee player a lift on Friday night or = Sat morning. He played pick up for imperial at the recent league meeting and wants to = come down. Any takers??? Give us a call on 01705 791274 and email us. Cheers=20 Lewis ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF3131.6C83D1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Is any one for imperial or any one else going to = Brighton from=20 London able to give a budding young frisbee player a lift on Friday = night or Sat=20 morning.
He played pick up for imperial at the recent league = meeting=20 and wants to come down.
 
Any takers???
 
Give us a call on 01705 791274 and email = us.
 
Cheers
 
Lewis
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF3131.6C83D1C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 18 15:09:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00292 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:06:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00246 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:06:18 GMT Received: from tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.50.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA03498 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:06:18 GMT Received: from benjamcr by tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk with local (Exim 1.82 #1) id 11oT8X-0000x4-00; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:06:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:06:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Benjamin Crick X-Sender: benjamcr@tsunx.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk To: Kevin.Noble@pgen.com cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: SE Regional Student Indoor Qualifiers In-Reply-To: <8025682C.004A807C.00@WESTD90.pgen.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk That should not be a problem but the schedule is fixed to have the first game being played at 09:30 so please be prompt. Cheers Ben Crick AKA "Stroke" the catain Mohawks On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 Kevin.Noble@pgen.com wrote: > > > Ben, > > Would it be possible to hold the captain's meeting 5/10 minutes later? (it > probably won't start on time anyway). There is one train arriving at falmer at > 8:19 (way too early) and the next is at 9:02. I would appreciate the extra 40 > minutes sleep, specially since that would mean I could leave at 6:00, not 5:20. > > Anyone else getting a connection from London Victoria should have the same > problem. > > cheers > > kevin > > > > > > benjamcr@cogs.susx.ac.uk on 11/16/99 11:38:05 AM > > To: Kevin Noble/Westwood/PowerGen > cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: SE Regional Student Indoor Qualifiers > > > > > The captains meeting will be at 09:00 with the first game starting at 09:30. > See you all soon. > > > > > This E-mail message is private and confidential and should only be read > by those to whom it is addressed. > > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination, distribution, copying, reproduction, modification or > publication of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please delete > the message from your computer and destroy any copies. > > This message is not intended to be relied upon by any person without > subsequent written confirmation of its contents. This company therefore > disclaims all responsibility and accepts no liability of any kind which > may arise from any person acting, or refraining from acting, upon the > contents of the message without having had subsequent written > confirmation. > > If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems > occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on > +44 (0)2476 425474 > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 18 15:10:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01389 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01352 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:15 GMT From: 97607681@mmu.ac.uk Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07610 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:14 GMT Received: from magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.17.46]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 11oTBh-0003NE-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:09:29 +0000 Received: from MMU-ART-MAGELLAN/SpoolDir by magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 18 Nov 99 15:09:13 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-ART-MAGELLAN (Mercury 1.31); 18 Nov 99 15:08:49 GMT Organization: MMU To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 15:08:42 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Cheltenham Pick-up??? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <3F2C4F06EC6@magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi people.. If there are any teams going to the cheltenham tournament that need a player to pick-up for you, I'm your man.. James.. Fingers Six. 0161 225 1245.. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 18 16:18:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00243 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:09:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29823 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:08:26 GMT Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13673 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:08:26 GMT Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11oU80-00041q-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:09:44 +0000 Received: by LIS-EXCHANGE1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:18:37 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Ultimate 5-a-side footy Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:18:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA29826 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Ultimate playing football fans. I know you're out there. You've Talked the Talk. Now here's your chance to Walk the Walk. This is to remind you (again) of the 5-a-side football tournament for Ultimate players. It takes place in Leeds (the home of football style - and David Batty). It's a one day event on 11th December. The cost is £50 per team There are spaces for four teams (eight teams in all). Send cheques to - 42 Richmond Mt, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 1DF made payable to 'mild mannered janitors'. Contact Arun (0113 224 9680) for further details. You could come representing your club teams or you could get you friends together. If you're Scottish, you can come to a football tournament you don't have to qualify for. Ben Mitchell From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 00:02:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA00941 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:00:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00899 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:00:33 GMT From: neil.cooper@usa.net Received: from nwcst291.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst291.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA17337 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:00:32 GMT Received: (qmail 24320 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Nov 1999 00:01:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19991119000103.24319.qmail@nwcst291.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.36 by nwcst291 for [203.109.252.19] via web-mailer(M3.3.1.96) on Fri Nov 19 00:01:03 GMT 1999 Date: 18 Nov 99 17:01:03 MST To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Get your beach shorts out and .... X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.3.1.96) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id AAA00901 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk save up the pennies ...... :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Murphy To: owouse@ihug.co.nz Sent: Thursday, 18 November 1999 03:00 Subject: Bali Ultimate Tournament Dear Regional Ultimate Players, Very advance notice (but you can’t make holiday plans too early): Indonesia’s prestigious Nusantara Cup will be up for grabs on Saturday April 22 and Sunday April 23 2000 in the quiet, romantic Balinese hideaway of Kuta Beach. Indonesia’s first ultimate tournament of the new millenium (assuming we’re all still here) will also be used to determine the National Champion. We hope there will be enough female response to have a women’s bracket, but it’s our expectation that there won't, so it’s likely to be a coed (minimum 2 women on the field at a time) affair. Flights to Denpasar’s international airport should be easy for all of you. However, that Friday is a holiday in most countries (Good Friday) so book early. Any early questions or comments can be directed to Dan (selamatmenyelam@hotmail.com) Scott (scott@indopacificpr.co.id) or Edwin (edwin@ariawest.com.) No need for responses now, though happy to have them. We remain yours, Team Jawa Tournament Committee ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 01:13:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17029 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:12:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17013 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:12:35 GMT Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA21985 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:12:35 GMT Received: from modem-217.lemonpeel-angel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.38.217] helo=hal9000) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #0) id 11ocbJ-0003VN-00; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:12:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01bf322a$e7784f60$d926893e@hal9000> From: "Benjamin Crick" To: Cc: Subject: Directions to SE qualifiers Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 01:10:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF322A.D1139540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF322A.D1139540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Emma I take it that you will be coming to us via the M25? If you do that then = go clockwise (I guess that was a little obvious) until you hit the = junction for the M23. Go south on the M23 and continue as it changes to = the A23. Take the left turning to go East along the A27. This road takes = you around the outskirts of Brighton right to Falmer (wich is home to = our fair Uni). Our university entrance is on the laeft and is marked by = a sign (obviously) and a garish concrete wall with our name along the = side. The turning is quite sharp so if you miss that then you will be = able to take the left slip road to a roundabout where you can also enter = the university grounds.=20 If you have taken the first available turning (E.G. the 90 degree one = parralel to the concrete wall and path, then drive up to the T junction = and turn left over the Zebra crossing. There is parking to the left (it = costs, sorry). The sports centre is right next to that car park . You = could try your luck at parking in one of the other car parks but you'll = be lucky. If you have taken the second turning off of the roundabout then follow = the road round to the left. Stay on the road you are on and follow it = down the hill. As you turn right after going down the hill you will see = a left hand turning. Take this left and go down the hill some more (you = should see car parks to your left). This road leads to a junction with a = zebra crossing. Go over the crossing and the afore-mentioned pay car = park is there.=20 There are plenty of maps around the place and I will send a few people = to roam the streets for a while looking for teams. If you do get lost or = have any questions then give me a call. Home 01273 241145 Mobile 0786 778 5411 Ben Crick AKA "Stroke" the captain Mohawks ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF322A.D1139540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Emma
 
I take it that you will be coming to us via the M25? = If you do=20 that then go clockwise (I guess that was a little obvious) until you hit = the=20 junction for the M23. Go south on the M23 and continue as it changes to = the A23.=20 Take the left turning to go East along the A27. This road takes you = around the=20 outskirts of Brighton right to Falmer (wich is home to our fair Uni). = Our=20 university entrance is on the laeft and is marked by a sign (obviously) = and a=20 garish concrete wall with our name along the side. The turning is quite = sharp so=20 if you miss that then you will be able to take the left slip road to a=20 roundabout where you can also enter the university grounds. =
 
If you have taken the first available turning (E.G. = the 90=20 degree one parralel to the concrete wall and path, then drive up to the = T=20 junction and turn left over the Zebra crossing. There is parking to the = left (it=20 costs, sorry). The sports centre is right next to that car park . You = could try=20 your luck at parking in one of the other car parks but you'll be=20 lucky.
 
If you have taken the second turning off of the = roundabout=20 then follow the road round to the left. Stay on the road you are on and = follow=20 it down the hill. As you turn right after going down the hill you will = see a=20 left hand turning. Take this left and go down the hill some more (you = should see=20 car parks to your left). This road leads to a junction with a zebra = crossing. Go=20 over the crossing and the afore-mentioned pay car park is there. =
 
There are plenty of maps around the place and I will = send a=20 few people to roam the streets for a while looking for teams. If you do = get lost=20 or have any questions then give me a call.
 
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Ben Crick
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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BF322A.D1139540-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 09:11:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12407 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:09:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12366 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:09:27 GMT Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15003 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:09:27 GMT Received: from [212.140.73.157] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11ok1b-0006dg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:08:12 +0000 Message-ID: <003401bf326d$ff89aca0$db408cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: EgoWang meeting? Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:09:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey any of you BAF types- The directions to your two-hall tournament don't say in which hall the captain's meeting will take place. Saturday morning at 9am is too early to be lost around Cheltenham. Any clues as to the location of said meeting?? Thanks, Nancy Stebbing From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 09:19:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17482 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:18:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17453 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:18:05 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA16392 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:18:04 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA14116 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:54:50 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:54:50 GMT Message-Id: <003401bf326e$df28d610$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Nancy Stebbing" , "britdisc" Cc: "Merrick Cardew" Subject: Re: EgoWang meeting? Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:17:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Captains Meeting For Ego Wang Fest Rec Centre @9am Balti BAF 34 -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Stebbing To: britdisc Date: 19 November 1999 09:12 Subject: EgoWang meeting? >Hey any of you BAF types- > >The directions to your two-hall tournament don't say in which hall the >captain's meeting will take place. > >Saturday morning at 9am is too early to be lost around Cheltenham. Any >clues as to the location of said meeting?? > >Thanks, >Nancy Stebbing > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 12:49:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13009 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:46:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12992 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:46:55 GMT Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08453 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:46:54 GMT Received: from modem-25.nabumatone.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.81.25] helo=simon) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #0) id 11onRB-0005kY-00; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:46:49 +0000 Message-ID: <003c01bf328c$44c90c20$1951883e@simon> From: "Simon Barlow" To: "James Hewitson" Cc: References: <003401bf326e$df28d610$be17010a@w046901> Subject: Re: EgoWang meeting? Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:42:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I may be a bit late in asking for this but where is the rec centre??? (I presume the one indoor nationals was held this year) also directions from the motorways would not go amiss!! for us northerners Si.b (Chevy/WYWLAS) ----- Original Message ----- From: James Hewitson To: Nancy Stebbing ; britdisc Cc: Merrick Cardew Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 9:17 AM Subject: Re: EgoWang meeting? > Captains Meeting For Ego Wang Fest Rec Centre @9am > > Balti > BAF 34 > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Stebbing > To: britdisc > Date: 19 November 1999 09:12 > Subject: EgoWang meeting? > > > >Hey any of you BAF types- > > > >The directions to your two-hall tournament don't say in which hall the > >captain's meeting will take place. > > > >Saturday morning at 9am is too early to be lost around Cheltenham. Any > >clues as to the location of said meeting?? > > > >Thanks, > >Nancy Stebbing > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 13:53:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10942 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:50:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10927 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:50:51 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f189.hotmail.com [209.185.130.99]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA13894 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:50:50 GMT Received: (qmail 94893 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 1999 13:50:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19991119135019.94892.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:50:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.36] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: jonathancurran@dtn.ntl.com, robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, robdouglas69@hotmail.com, jas@jsangha.freeserve.co.uk, david.kitts@strath.ac.uk, thor.abrahamsen@strath.ac.uk, kathy_in_austria@hotmail.com, claire.watt@strath.ac.uk, cordoyno@hotmail.com, gavin.gilligan@strath.ac.uk, pamela.adams@strath.ac.uk, clare.connolly@strath.ac.uk, andrew.bryce@strath.ac.uk, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk, rontoboy@hotmail.com, gerard.lee@strath.ac.uk, nicolezeller@hotmail.com, iandunnlost@hotmail.com Subject: cindy's getting full... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:50:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk despite a voracious appetite, there are only so many teams that cindy is physically able to "accomodate". This is 16. so far i've had entries from: the Source (1) far flung (2) durham(1) jedi(2) ro sham bo (3) york(2) fish(2) aberdeen(2) st andrews (4) - not paid haven't heard anything yet from dundee or stirling giving priority to first teams first, and in order of payment, everyone who's contacted me so far will get 2 teams in. if dundee and stirling want to enter a team, st andrews and aberdeen will only get one each. sorry. so get a wriggle on if you want in. leigh moist with anticipation ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 14:22:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25193 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25182 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:44 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f275.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA16609 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:43 GMT Received: (qmail 76513 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 1999 14:21:11 -0000 Message-ID: <19991119142111.76512.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:21:10 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.159] From: "Jester Bit" To: fatleigh@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: cindy's getting full... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:21:10 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Leigh Seeing as the North is the biggest qaulifying region with more teams than any other, and seeing as the interest is so great, perhaps you could starts pulling some major strings to accomadate 20 teams? Granted it will make more work for you and the Source, but you can guarentee the respect it will generate for you. Please try and make it a 20 team tourny thus making sure teams which lets face it know they aren't going to get to the finals at least get to play in another indoor tournamnet. The interest from new players this year has been huge in all regions (as demonstrated by the 32 team beginners tourny in Edinburgh). Please do all you can to help maintain this growth. Yours in anticipation Jes* >From: "leigh simmons" >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >CC: jonathancurran@dtn.ntl.com, robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, >alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, >robdouglas69@hotmail.com, jas@jsangha.freeserve.co.uk, >david.kitts@strath.ac.uk, thor.abrahamsen@strath.ac.uk, >kathy_in_austria@hotmail.com, claire.watt@strath.ac.uk, >cordoyno@hotmail.com, gavin.gilligan@strath.ac.uk, >pamela.adams@strath.ac.uk, clare.connolly@strath.ac.uk, >andrew.bryce@strath.ac.uk, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, >jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk, >rontoboy@hotmail.com, gerard.lee@strath.ac.uk, >nicolezeller@hotmail.com, iandunnlost@hotmail.com >Subject: cindy's getting full... >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 05:50:17 PST > >despite a voracious appetite, there are only so many teams that cindy is >physically able to "accomodate". This is 16. > >so far i've had entries from: > >the Source (1) >far flung (2) >durham(1) >jedi(2) >ro sham bo (3) >york(2) >fish(2) >aberdeen(2) >st andrews (4) - not paid > >haven't heard anything yet from dundee or stirling > >giving priority to first teams first, and in order of payment, everyone >who's contacted me so far will get 2 teams in. if dundee and stirling want >to enter a team, st andrews and aberdeen will only get one each. sorry. > >so get a wriggle on if you want in. > >leigh >moist with anticipation ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 14:37:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01622 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:36:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01606 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:36:49 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f65.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18049 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:36:49 GMT Received: (qmail 62940 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 1999 14:36:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19991119143617.62939.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:36:17 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.159] From: "Jester Bit" To: 9703260m@1997.sci.student.gla, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: [student-ultimate] Re: cindy's getting full... Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:36:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: <9703260m@1997.sci.student.gla> >To: jester_bit@hotmail.com >Subject: [student-ultimate] Re: cindy's getting full... >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 99 14:22:03 BST > Sorry everyone else Whoeveryou are, please resend your message, you keep coming blanks. Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 14:45:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04846 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:44:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04799 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:44:07 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA18730 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:44:06 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA25326 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:13 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:21:13 GMT Message-Id: <002701bf329c$7b9d0c00$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Ego Wang Directions Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:43:45 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mercury.eaglestar.co.uk id OAA14411 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA04801 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Directions to the Rec Centre: - >From Cheltenham Racecourse: As you come into Cheltenham at the first roundabout (with the racecourse on it) take the last exit. Down a small road. Take the second turning on the left, Tommy Taylor’s Lane. Keep going and you'll see the Rec. centre on your left. Directions from M5 South: Turn off the motorway at Junction 11A, it will be marked as Regency Cheltenham. Head for the centre of town. Once on the dual carriageway you want the left lane as you come to the first r’bout (with G.C.H.Q on it) go straight over. Keep going until the next roundabout; go left, NOT TO TOWN CENTRE. You will reach Coronation Square, pass the Red Lion pub on right and take the second exit. It is a square roundabout - you'll see what I mean. Go down this road, mind the speed cameras, till you get to the Macdonald’s roundabout. Go straight over. ** Keep going till you see mini roundabout take right lane and go right, the Cheltenham Bowling Alley is over the roundabout. Go over a narrow bridge and down road. At the mini roundabout bear left. At the next mini roundabout bear left again Go under the railway bridge Turn left into into Folly Lane /Tommy Taylors lane Rec centre is on the right Directions M5 North: Come off at Junction 10. Turn left onto road, keep going straight through two junctions, with traffic lights, keep going until you get to Macdonald’s roundabout, turn left and follow instructions from ** above. Rec Centre To Hardwick Campus Out of the Rec centre car park turn left - go right to the end of the road, a T junction, turn right into St Paul’s Road. You will go under a railway bridge and Hardwick Campus is just down this road about 300 yards. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 19 17:18:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11112 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:16:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11073 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:16:23 GMT Received: from squealer.excite.com ([199.172.153.143]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04583 for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:16:22 GMT Received: from blizzard.excite.com ([199.172.148.158]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <19991119171308.FIII6196.gigi.excite.com@blizzard.excite.com> for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:13:08 -0800 Message-ID: <25152143.943031588010.JavaMail.imail@blizzard.excite.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 09:13:08 -0800 (PST) From: M Allen Reply-To: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Directions for EgoWang Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 147.188.104.123 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Maybe I missed the boat, but can anyone give me directions for getting to the Rec centre in Cheltenham? A map could be good. Tommy Tyler Lane or something isn't it? *in control* Mal. SlipDisc (?) \\|// { o o } ^ 0 mta99@bigfoot.com _______________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 20 14:44:52 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00829 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:42:40 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00824 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:42:38 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02211 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:42:32 GMT Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11pBii-0006kz-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:42:32 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 20 Nov 99 14:42:32 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.46); 20 Nov 99 14:42:23 +0000 From: "R.D.Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 14:42:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Purple Haze ??? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a phone number or E Mail address where I can contact someone from Purple Haze. It's The Indoor Qualifiers at Sheffield next weekend and nobody has heard from them. Obviously we would like as many teams as possible to come so we need to get in touch soon. Thanks Rob - Phat Eds From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 20 22:44:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19083 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:42:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19078 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:42:54 GMT Received: from mailer2.lut.ac.uk (IDENT:root@mailer2.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23895 for ; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:42:53 GMT Received: from [131.231.249.121] (helo=elcms) by mailer2.lut.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11pJDX-0003oR-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:42:51 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01bf33a8$6947d1e0$79f9e783@lboro.ac.uk> From: "Chris Standen" To: Subject: re: Purple Haze Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 22:41:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF33A8.6904AE60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF33A8.6904AE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rob, The Haze DO still exist! I spoke to Simon Weeks on Friday (19th) to beg for a place, hope this is = okay... =20 Cheers Chris Standen (Treasurer - Purple Haze) 01509 823130 C.M.Standen-95@student.lboro.ac.uk P.S. the cheque's in the post ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF33A8.6904AE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rob,
 
The Haze DO still exist!
I spoke to Simon Weeks on Friday (19th) = to beg for=20 a place, hope this is okay...
       =20
Cheers
    Chris=20 Standen    (Treasurer - Purple=20 Haze)
    01509 823130
    C.M.Standen-95@student= .lboro.ac.uk
 
P.S. the cheque's in the=20 post
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF33A8.6904AE60-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 22 08:27:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05998 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:51:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03157 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:47:13 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20798 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA00933 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199911220747.HAA00933@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 27th November 1999 Student Indoor Qualifiers (Midlands) (2 days) @ Concord Sports Centre, Sheffield [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Weeks Address 23 Shepards Close Fareham PO14 3AJ Email siweeks@bigfoot.com Phone 01329 845922 Saturday 4th December 1999 Cindy [Scottish/Northern Student Indoors] (2 days) @ Strathclyde University sports centre, Glasgow [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Leigh Simmons Email fatleigh@hotmail.com Phone 0141 331 0295 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Oxford Women's Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Oxford [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Tara Jewell Address 10 Tyndale Road Oxford OX4 1JL Email 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Phone 01865 246158 Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kevin Blanch Address 36 Thackeray Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Email kpb298@soton.ac.uk Phone 01703 390832 07974 659206 (mobile) Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 22 10:01:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29325 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 06:25:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26940 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 06:21:53 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06479 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:54:48 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11pgoa-000OZr-0C; Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:54:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:46:09 +0000 To: BritDisc , GB Open Mailing List From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Next GB session - date and venue? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The next GB session is scheduled as the w/e of 11/12 December (?) Any news on whether it will be Saturday or Sunday (or both?) and/or a location? I hear that people are making Christmas-type plans, and the info would be useful Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 22 18:55:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19371 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:53:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19329 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:52:59 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f256.hotmail.com [216.32.180.214]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22271 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:45:53 GMT Received: (qmail 18552 invoked by uid 0); 22 Nov 1999 17:45:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19991122174519.18551.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.194.17 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:45:19 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.17] From: "Neil G. Preston" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: For those who staffed at WUCC '99 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:45:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is just a little note to all the people who STAFFED at the Worlds in the summer. Myself and DJ met at the beginners a couple of weeks back and bounced out the idea to try and put a team together to play in a tournament sometime (perhaps Southampton indoors before christmas if we are quick enough?) Please let me know if there is any interest! Cheers Big Neil Falling Skies ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 11:29:14 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08695 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:25:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08657 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:25:36 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06673 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:25:33 GMT Received: from cs1402.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.136.12] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 11qE4g-0002HH-00; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:25:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:24:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmuj5@central.susx.ac.uk (james houghton) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE Indoor Student Qualifiers - Results X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmuj5@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK here are the results from this years SE indoor student qualifiers: 1.Skunks 1 2.Strange Blue 3.Imperial 4.Mohawks 1 5.Sublime Patriots 1 6.None of the Above 7.Toxic(spirit) 8.Skunks 2 9.Sublime patriots 2(plate) 10.Brunel 11.Mohawks 2 12.Skunks 3 13.Sublime Patriots 3 14.Mohawks 4 15.Mohawks 3 16 Brunel 2 did not turn up. We also held a fantasy charity match on Saturday which raised £130 for charity, I would like to say thankyou to everyone who supported that. I can't really remember too much about the whole weekend only that toxic won the 3 pint challenge with 16 seconds. And the semi finals, 3/4 playoff and the final were quite possibly the closest set of matches I have ever seen. OK take it easy, see you in February for the finals Waggle, Mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 12:12:53 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25597 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:09:15 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25000 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:07:49 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:10:47 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Next GB session - date and venue? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne Retter wrote: >The next GB session is scheduled as the w/e of 11/12 December (?) > >Any news on whether it will be Saturday or Sunday (or both?) >and/or a location? > >I hear that people are making Christmas-type plans, and the info would >be useful > >Wayne At the time of writing (12 noon 23/11/99) the plan seems to be for another ONE DAY session to be held in Milton Keynes again on: Saturday 11 December 1999 Patch has volunteered to book the MK pitches again [thanks Patch] - similar start time as November (09:30 for 10:00), but no need to dash off to watch footy! For directions, I would recommend using the following advice: "You can find a map of milton keynes at http://www.open.ac.uk/maps/local.html Woughton on the Green is directly above the Open University - in between the V8 and the V10 and the H7 and H8. Use junction 13 of the M1 if you're coming from the south and junction 14 if you're coming from the north. John Domingue (long time MK citizen)" [and former GB player ... will you be turning up to the December training John?] If you cannot make it, or if you have some feedback about the training sessions, please contact the relevant Divisional Manager (or myself if appropriate): Open - Aram Flores aflores@lehman.com Womens - To Be Added "Tara Jewell" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Juniors - Patch Winser patch@winser.com Masters - Wayne Davey w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk wayne@ultimate.freeserve.co.uk Mixed - Jeff Jackson Jeffrey.F.E.Jackson@soc.soton.ac.uk General Manager - Sammy Neilson D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Cheers Sam. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 16:05:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25720 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:59:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25626 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:59:14 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f147.hotmail.com [209.185.131.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27969 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:59:02 GMT Received: (qmail 60823 invoked by uid 0); 23 Nov 1999 15:58:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19991123155825.60822.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:58:23 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.36] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: jonathancurran@dtn.ntl.com, robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, robdouglas69@hotmail.com, jas@jsangha.freeserve.co.uk, david.kitts@strath.ac.uk, thor.abrahamsen@strath.ac.uk, kathy_in_austria@hotmail.com, claire.watt@strath.ac.uk, cordoyno@hotmail.com, gavin.gilligan@strath.ac.uk, pamela.adams@strath.ac.uk, clare.connolly@strath.ac.uk, andrew.bryce@strath.ac.uk, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk, rontoboy@hotmail.com, gerard.lee@strath.ac.uk, nicolezeller@hotmail.com, iandunnlost@hotmail.com Subject: cindy: how many can she squeeze in? Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:58:23 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk scottish / northern students, due to unprecedented demand, cindy is limbering up with the grim realisation that if she wants to satisfy everyone, she's just going to have to deal with 24 hungry (and possibly quite rough) teams on the 4/5 dec. here is the list as it stands (everyone has got the number of teams they asked for. wow) the Source (1) bradford (1) aberdeen (2) fish (2) jedi (2) york (2) durham (1) ro sham bo (3) shooting stars (2) far flung (3) st andrews(4) if i'm not mistaken this all adds up to 23 - which is quite sweet, cos i think there's a team from hull who might want to come. i know the geezer but i don't know his name (first touch feller) - if you are he, can you get in touch with me. [if they're not coming this may be filled by another team from strathclyde and/or glasgow]. of course, this is far too many people for our facilities, so expect some inventive schedules, cosy sleeping conditions, dodgy innuendo and spot prizes - just to keep everyone sweet. oh yea, we don't have time for any of that captains meeting monkey business, so send me a correspondence address, and i'll send you everything you need. nice. leigh ps st andrews - send me £. please. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 16:35:40 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09663 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:34:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09644 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:33:58 GMT From: Kevin.Noble@pgen.com Received: from wests88.pgen.co.uk (mail.pgen.co.uk [193.132.196.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03180 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:33:57 GMT Received: from WESTD90.pgen.co.uk (147.89.81.103) by wests88.pgen.co.uk (Integralis SMTPRS 1.51) with SMTP id ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:30:11 +0000 Received: by WESTD90.pgen.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 80256832.005AD349 ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:32:03 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: POWERGEN@NOTESMAIL To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: <80256832.005AD304.00@WESTD90.pgen.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:27:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone out there have Damo's e-mail? 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If you have received this communication in error, or if any problems occur in transmission please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)2476 425474 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 16:49:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15837 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:48:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15803 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:48:11 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f286.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.80]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25093 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:48:10 GMT Received: (qmail 39254 invoked by uid 0); 23 Nov 1999 16:47:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19991123164738.39253.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:47:37 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.159] From: "Jester Bit" To: fatleigh@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Re: cindy: how many can she squeeze in? Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 08:47:37 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Leigh You are the Man, you are the Boy, your name will ring with hallowed tones throught Strathclyde as students of Scotland and N England enjoy Cindy's tender fruit oh yes. Booyaka booyaka booyaka. Source is maaaaaasive. Resssspect. Jes* ps Is she clean? >From: "leigh simmons" >scottish / northern students, > >due to unprecedented demand, cindy is limbering up with the grim >realisation that if she wants to satisfy everyone, she's just going to have >to deal with 24 hungry (and possibly quite rough) teams on the 4/5 dec. > >here is the list as it stands (everyone has got the number of teams they >asked for. wow) > >the Source (1) >bradford (1) >aberdeen (2) >fish (2) >jedi (2) >york (2) >durham (1) >ro sham bo (3) >shooting stars (2) >far flung (3) >st andrews(4) > >if i'm not mistaken this all adds up to 23 - which is quite sweet, cos i >think there's a team from hull who might want to come. i know the geezer >but i don't know his name (first touch feller) - if you are he, can you get >in touch with me. [if they're not coming this may be filled by another team >from strathclyde and/or glasgow]. > >of course, this is far too many people for our facilities, so expect some >inventive schedules, cosy sleeping conditions, dodgy innuendo and spot >prizes - just to keep everyone sweet. oh yea, we don't have time for any of >that captains meeting monkey business, so send me a correspondence address, >and i'll send you everything you need. nice. > >leigh > >ps st andrews - send me £. please. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 16:55:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18300 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:53:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18262 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:53:55 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25651 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:53:54 GMT Received: from modem-8.barium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.27.136] helo=maul99freeserve.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #0) id 11qJCS-0004MD-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:53:53 +0000 Message-ID: <004401bf35d2$f987e3e0$881b883e@co.uk> From: "maul99" To: Subject: London Practice??? Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:50:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF35D2.E3771620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF35D2.E3771620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please help me.. I am going down to London for the weekend, and I was just wondering if I = can join anyone's practice session..I have played ultimate for a few = years with Fingers Six, don't let that put you off, I need my fix of = ultimate because I've not played for a few months.... Cheers Matt(ex-F6) ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF35D2.E3771620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I am going down to London for the = weekend, and I=20 was just wondering if I can join anyone's practice session..I have = played=20 ultimate for a few years with Fingers Six, don't let that put you off, I = need my=20 fix of ultimate because I've not played for a few = months....
 
Cheers = Matt(ex-F6)
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF35D2.E3771620-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 17:02:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22074 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:02:06 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22039 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:02:01 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10143 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:02:01 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA17891 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:37:29 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:37:29 GMT Message-Id: <001801bf35d4$5cf8eea0$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Ego Wang Fest Results Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:01:17 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 24 BAF Too = SPOON WINNERS 23 Mwnci See 22 Mild Mannered Janitors 21 Bears 2 20 Slip Disc 19 Lemmings 18 Angels 2 17 Whiplash 16 Fubar 15 Red 14 Angels 1 13 Team Latte = PLATE WINNERS 12 Family Circle 11 Sneeekys 10 Bears 1 9 Far Flung 8 Look At Me 7 Shrub 6 WYWS All Stars 5 Baboom 4 LC Fever 3 Mexican Horse Bandits 2 Point Blank 1 BAF 1 = CUP WINNERS Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 17:06:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23588 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:05:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23563 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:05:25 GMT Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26770 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:05:25 GMT Received: from iona.sms.ed.ac.uk (iona.sms.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.2]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA09404; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:05:24 GMT Message-Id: <199911231705.RAA09404@renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk> Received: from SMS-IONA/SpoolDir by iona.sms.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 23 Nov 99 17:05:23 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SMS-IONA (Mercury 1.44); 23 Nov 99 17:05:12 +0000 From: "Ben H" <9759341@iona.sms.ed.ac.uk> Organization: Student Mail Service To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:05:06 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: I hope that this is the last one..... In-reply-to: <19991123164738.39253.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Maybe it is just me but there is no need for this annoying habit of cross-posting. If you are on student-ultimate it is because you are a student who is concerned. Britdisc is a wider list and student-ultimate was set up so that all the non-student ultimate players would not have to be bothered with the rabblings of students with to much time on there hands..... So lets stop it..... Ben H (RSB/SA) PS If I am out of line and there are actually many situations where cross posting is applicable then please ignore the above Cya From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 23 17:15:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27558 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:14:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27517 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:14:02 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27737 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:14:01 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA18126 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:49:31 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:49:31 GMT Message-Id: <002501bf35d6$0b638c10$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fw: Ego Wang Fest Results Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:13:21 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk AND most importantly Spirit went to Angels 1 Balti BAF 34 -----Original Message----- From: James Hewitson To: Britdisc Date: 23 November 1999 17:01 Subject: Ego Wang Fest Results >24 BAF Too = SPOON WINNERS >23 Mwnci See >22 Mild Mannered Janitors >21 Bears 2 >20 Slip Disc >19 Lemmings >18 Angels 2 >17 Whiplash >16 Fubar >15 Red >14 Angels 1 >13 Team Latte = PLATE WINNERS > >12 Family Circle >11 Sneeekys >10 Bears 1 >9 Far Flung >8 Look At Me >7 Shrub >6 WYWS All Stars >5 Baboom >4 LC Fever >3 Mexican Horse Bandits >2 Point Blank >1 BAF 1 = CUP WINNERS > >Balti >BAF 34 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 24 09:30:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16367 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:27:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16355 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:27:53 GMT Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07783 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:27:48 GMT Message-Id: <199911240927.JAA07783@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:21:54 -0000 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc Subject: Ultimate Footware Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:25:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My brother is getting me some ultimate shoes while he's in the states, but has found that sharks have been discontinued? Does anyone know what they've been replaced by? or have any suggestions on the best shoe for ultimate? search of nike.com has not been illuminating. thanks pu From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 25 07:23:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14401 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:20:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14396 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:20:46 GMT Received: from interleaf.com (fw.ileaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26347 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:20:45 GMT Received: by fw.interleaf.com via suspension id <115526>; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:12:53 -0500 Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.interleaf.com with SMTP id <115504>; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:05:21 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id EAA02843; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 04:47:26 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06081; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:47:38 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:49:34 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57B33@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Ultimate Footware Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 04:49:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reebock Pitbulls were the competitor to Nike Sharks. Both of these are American Football boots. Also some people like baseball boots as they are lighter. But they are not so comfy. -- Neil Travers work: Fluid Druids home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 25 15:06:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22810 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:03:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22774 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:03:48 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21666 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:03:47 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29857 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:03:47 GMT Received: from B62A-03.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62a-03.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.153]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id PAA06426 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:02:50 GMT From: Kevin Blanch Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Indoors In-Reply-To: <199911220747.HAA00933@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 15:02:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all Here is a list of the teams confirmed for the Southampton Christmas indoor tournement. Skunks 1 Skunks 2 Skunks 3 ` Skunks ladies Mr Men To pay Look at me To pay Druids To pay BAF BAF 2 UTI To pay Simpsons Sarah Davidsons team Sublime Patriots to Pay Strange Blue Mythago based team Baboom Any teams/ people requiring 'free' accomodation, i.e dingy student house, could you please get in contact with me. For those that dont, I shall send out a list soon of some local hotels, b&bs etc. Cheers Kevin (Skunks) ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 25 16:24:23 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22264 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:23:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22232 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:23:08 GMT Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03219 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:23:07 GMT Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:23:02 +0000 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA08135; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:21:41 GMT From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: Dave Neilson Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Next GB session - venue? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:17:57 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Milton Keynes again: Use junction 13 of > the M1 if you're coming from the south and junction 14 if > you're coming from the north. If you're coming from the west, take the recently surfaced minor road turning left just before the final passing place. Rafi (FTM) (apologies for lack of useful information in this, but traditionally at least one person complains about the venue) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 26 14:55:04 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27287 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:53:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27268 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:53:17 GMT Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [195.102.240.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14566 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:53:17 GMT Received: from [62.252.40.28] (helo=[62.252.40.28]) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 11rMkN-0007fU-00; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:53:16 +0000 X-Sender: adam-um@mail.u-net.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:46:53 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: adam harras Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk fellow round plastic lovers If your sat at desk, bored, thinking of the weekend and nothing to do check out a new ultimate website. comments, ideas are welcome Site is at: http://www.um.u-net.com/Ultiweb Adam (under the influence) comments to: adam@ummedia.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 27 14:33:20 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00607 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:31:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00599 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:31:39 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f229.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.229]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA04621 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 14:31:38 GMT Received: (qmail 50900 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 1999 14:30:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19991127143052.50899.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 158.152.248.177 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:30:52 PST X-Originating-IP: [158.152.248.177] From: "Vanessa White" To: altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Nadya.Hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, mohawks@hotmail.com, StratfordS@cardiff.ac.uk, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, laurapearce@btinternet.com, ecsldeff@livjm.ac.uk Subject: Women National Indoors Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:30:52 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bids are needed for the Women's Indoors. January 29th and 30th. I an unable to find a hall they will give us a whole weekend. If you know of a venue that we could use, please let me know. If you are not prepared to host the tournement yourself I am prepared to do all the admin work. So if you know of a hall and want to host Women's National Indoors or if you know of a hall and don't want to host please get intouch. Please send bids by return email or contact me at the number below by the 17th December. Many Thanks Vanessa White BUF Womens Co-Ordinator 020 8663 4856 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 27 17:14:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22247 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22242 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:54 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09106 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:13:53 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-001.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.131]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA24788 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:20:10 GMT Message-ID: <001901bf38fb$b7db1bc0$83a392c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: UK Ultimate Websites Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:20:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, Increasing numbers of people are using the Internet and the number of hits at the BUF website is rising. We need to come up with a proper strategy for promoting British Ultimate via the Internet. If you are interested in this please join our new listbot:- britultweb-subscribe@listbot.com Once subscribed, the address of the list is just britultweb@listbot.com In a couple of days I will stick out a posting on this to get the ball rolling. Cheers Ben Raviliious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 28 08:41:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12732 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:40:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12726 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:40:28 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25040 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:40:28 GMT Received: from p141-harc1-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.244.141] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11rznE-000056-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 08:34:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000001bf397c$44e5c4e0$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" References: <001901bf38fb$b7db1bc0$83a392c3@pii266> Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Websites Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 18:58:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Perhaps this should coincide with a serious effort to keep the BUF and Ultimatum sites up to date. I know it is a time consuming job but British ultimate would benefit from having an up to the minute on-line magazine and a well designed BUF site. Could these be jobs assigned to the administrator if the BUA comes about? Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: British Ultimate Federation To: BRITDISC Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 5:20 PM Subject: UK Ultimate Websites > Dear All, > > Increasing numbers of people are using the Internet and the number of hits > at the BUF website is rising. > > We need to come up with a proper strategy for promoting British Ultimate via > the Internet. > > If you are interested in this please join our new listbot:- > > britultweb-subscribe@listbot.com > > Once subscribed, the address of the list is just britultweb@listbot.com > > In a couple of days I will stick out a posting on this to get the ball > rolling. > > Cheers > > Ben Raviliious > BUF Secretary > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 28 12:45:38 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03523 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:44:54 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03510 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:44:52 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09601 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:44:51 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-033.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.163]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA11860 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:51:01 GMT Message-ID: <000a01bf399f$4d728f80$a3a392c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Websites Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:49:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Matt, All very interesting and relevent subjects of discussion - but shouldn't we be discussing them in the new group? If you want to talk about funding, job descriptions, etc, etc on Britdisc then fair enough. FWIW, trying to find someone who can do admin, edit a magazine, do the DTP, design websites, *program* websites and keep the whole thing up to date would be impossible I think. Even if we did find such a person we could not afford them. I firmly believe we *could* afford a part-time admin to do the really dull stuff but I think things such as the website are going to have to rely on volunteers for the moment :( BTW, the contact details part of the BUF website WILL be up to date in the very near future. Contact details entry form and online roster submission are only days away.......... Ben -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Lowe To: BRITDISC Date: 28 November 1999 08:44 Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Websites >Perhaps this should coincide with a serious effort to keep the BUF and >Ultimatum sites up to date. I know it is a time consuming job but British >ultimate would benefit from having an up to the minute on-line magazine and >a well designed BUF site. Could these be jobs assigned to the administrator >if the BUA comes about? > >Matt > >----- Original Message ----- >From: British Ultimate Federation >To: BRITDISC >Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 5:20 PM >Subject: UK Ultimate Websites > > >> Dear All, >> >> Increasing numbers of people are using the Internet and the number of hits >> at the BUF website is rising. >> >> We need to come up with a proper strategy for promoting British Ultimate >via >> the Internet. >> >> If you are interested in this please join our new listbot:- >> >> britultweb-subscribe@listbot.com >> >> Once subscribed, the address of the list is just britultweb@listbot.com >> >> In a couple of days I will stick out a posting on this to get the ball >> rolling. >> >> Cheers >> >> Ben Raviliious >> BUF Secretary >> >> > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 07:48:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20449 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20444 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18618 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:03 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA04730 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:02 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:47:02 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199911290747.HAA04730@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 4th December 1999 Cindy [Scottish/Northern Student Indoors] (2 days) @ Strathclyde University sports centre, Glasgow [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Leigh Simmons Email fatleigh@hotmail.com Phone 0141 331 0295 The Ultimate Orgy (Birmingham Indoors) (2 days) @ Cocks Moor Woods Leisure Centre, Kings Heath, Birmingham [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Archie Green Address 17 Amington Road Shirley Solihull West Midlands B90 2RF Email Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk Phone 0121 6034078 0403 658348 [mobile] URL http://www.ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk/ Sunday 5th December 1999 GB Guts Training (1 day) @ Sports Hall, Loughborough University [Indoor Guts Practice] Please e-mail Sam (D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk) if you plan to attend. Contact Chris "Beardy" Hughes Email yo_beardy@hotmail.com Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (1 day) @ Woughton Playing Fields, Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Patch Winser Email patch@winser.com Oxford Women's Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Oxford [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Tara Jewell Address 10 Tyndale Road Oxford OX4 1JL Email 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Phone 01865 246158 Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kevin Blanch Address 36 Thackeray Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Email kpb298@soton.ac.uk Phone 01703 390832 07974 659206 (mobile) Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 09:23:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05431 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05415 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:37 GMT Received: from pop ([209.207.148.138]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA26024 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:22:36 GMT Received: by pop with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.00.25 AS-0098317) for at Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:31:52 +0000 Message-ID: <384245B3.F74D7B85@otmbrand.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:21:56 +0000 From: Simon Norris Reply-To: simon.norris@virgin.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: West London practice Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There is a game on Tuesday nights @ Latimer Road, W London from 9-10. The possibility of a two hour session is being looked at if numbers are good. Please email myself (simon.norris@virgin.net) or David Eastman (deastman@uk.oracle.com) if you are interested in coming along. cheers Simon From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 10:22:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22980 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22964 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:04 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15347 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:04 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA04276 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:22:03 GMT Message-Id: <199911291022.KAA04276@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 29 Nov 99 10:22:03 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 29 Nov 99 10:21:34 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:21:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Census! X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all, Ultimate is growing faster than ever before. Ro-Sham-Bo has had approximately 100 new people turn up this year, and between 50 and 60 have continued playing. If one was to extrapolate these numbers over the established student clubs, and add all the people from new University teams, British Ultimate could have grown by between 500 and 1000 people in the last few months. The Edinburgh Beginners tournament of 32 teams was hugely oversubscribed. Assuming 6 beginners per side (v. conservative) that would mean that there were at least 200 new players at this tournament alone. Furthermore many of the clubs could have produced at least one more team. Bearing in mind this growth (which may not be linear!), I think that British Ultimate needs to conduct a census for the following reasons: 1) To accurately count the numbers playing ultimate in this country. 2) To see what groups of people are leaving ultimate. 3) To establish what teams are forming and breaking up, thereby reducing the number of people left without a team. 4) Establish whether ultimate needs restructuring. Should we set up leagues with divisions, then play tournaments along lines of which league one is a part of? Do we class tournaments, as serious, fun, improvers etc. How does womens only and coed fit in? 5) Evaluate what sort of BUF ultimate can afford to support. Any thoughts? Tim RSB Soup From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 11:35:59 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09352 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:19:58 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09333 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:19:51 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09111 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:15:21 GMT Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11sOm3-0006Xf-01; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:15:15 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 29 Nov 99 11:15:15 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.46); 29 Nov 99 11:15:11 +0000 From: "J.Fryer" To: "Britdisc" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:15:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Indoor Midland Qualifiers 1999 Reply-to: ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk CC: ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <17E02BE3893@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This weekend saw the Student Indoors Midlands Qualifying in Sheffield for the fourth year. The twenty teams entered was a record and alot of congratulations for Phat 'Eds and Bears for entering 9 teams between them. The opening days pool games had few surprises although in the big game of the day, Jesters vs. Mynci See ended in a draw leaving them tied on both points difference and points scored. During the party later that night the two rematched head to head. Alex vs. Joe, Ro-Sham Boing for the top spot in the pool. Alex won two to one leaving Mynci See as the pool winners. The party was held in the Star and Garter with the landlord enthusiastically challenging anyone in the pub to a three pint challenge. The drinking games by Jesters and Fingers 6 seemed to played with no mercy given, and the pool table was the scene of much trash talking. The yard of ale attempt from one of the Bears was at best described as brave but after the highlight of the Ro-Sham Bo and a rumoured 16.6 second three pint challenge the party faded, although not in volume as the rowdy hordes of players drifted apart. The 9am start for the cross-overs had only one shock as Hulltimate lost out on their top eight spot to Phats'n'Small. Hull took an early lead but Phats'n'Small showed great passion on D and more composure on offence to win comfortably. Fingers 6 vs. Mynci See threatened to be a Stan vs. Tim battle of skying as the two teams traded to 5-5, but Mynci See raised there game and didn't look back. Jesters also failed to qualify for Nationals as Purple Haze pretty much outplayed them on both D and O and never looked anything but comfortable to grab a semi place. The semi finals were hard fought but never close. Phat 'eds beat Mynci See 15-3 in a well spirited and highly enjoyable match. Bears were 2-0 down to Purple Haze but turned then turned it on to win very easily indeed. Unfortunately for Bears, Norm had his nose broken in a collision with another player and was out of the final. Before both the Final and the Plate Final (both fimiliar Bears vs. Phat 'Eds match ups) was another Bears vs. Phat 'eds game for 13th place. Easily the most exciting game of the weekend, as Care Bears scored three times in the last two minutes to tie the match at 6-6. Sudden death was thrilling as Phattastic played the most patient offence easily making fifteen passes to get to the zone. Care Bears twice got blocks and forced errors to turn over Phattastic and then hammered a disk down pitch to get a 3 on 1 by the zone. An amazing D by Phattastic and more patient offence and then a juggled catch by Tim(?) in the zone, much to the crowds delight, gave 13th place to Phattastic. A special mention must go to the unfortunately named Pooh Bears as they spent the whole of Sunday playing for the Spoon with ineligble graduate teams, who had already spent the day before beating most of the top eight. I know very little of the Plate final as the warm up to the Final ran concurrently to it, but I think Too Phat beat Teddy Bears without ever being in too much trouble. The final itself was as good a match of Student Ultimate as there has ever been. The two teams traded with each other to 5-5. Both teams were giving everything and Phat 'Eds thought they had made it 6-5 but there was an earlier call on the play. Phat 'Eds turned over and Bears scored, and then scored the next point. 7-5 and Phat 'Eds called a time out with only 6 minutes remaining. The cap was added at 8-6 to Bears after more fiercely competitive offence and defence. The superior zone play was now showing by Bears as they bladed twice into the zone to come out 10-6 winners for the fourth consecutive year. Both sides look very strong for the Nationals yet again. See you at the Finals, Jon Phat 'Eds 1. Yogi Bears 2. Phat 'Eds 3. Purple Haze 4. Mwnci See 5. Jesters 6. Fingers 6 7. Superfly 8. PhatsnSmall 9. Too Phat (Plate Winners) 10. Teddy Bears 11. Hulltimate 12. Mwnci Do 13. Phattastic 14. Care Bears 15. Jest Do It 16. Pudsey Bears 17. Pooh Bears (Spoon Winners) 18= 1 Phat Diver Humbertimate Fickled Fingers Spirit as ever was great throughout the tournament. This was demonstrated by a wide spread of votes resulting in a four way tie. However, after a recount the of Spirit of the Game was awarded to Mwnci See. Thanks to Jesper for organising the party at short notice, Rob for sorting out the accommodation, all the Phat 'Eds who hosted teams and everyone else who helped out with scoring. Good luck to all the Midland teams at this years finals. Si Weeks Tournament Director From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 12:43:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18203 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18130 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:31 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19875 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:40:30 GMT Received: from p151-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.46] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11sQ13-000756-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:34:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000001bf3a66$fc0f4e80$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: References: <199911291022.KAA04276@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Census! Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:47:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree. Jedi had about 150 turn up to their first practice this year, and 50-60 (maybe more) have stayed on. I think numbers where similar at Sheffield as well. Even if there has not been that much growth a census would still help the BUF with deciding if it should change to the BUA. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:21 AM Subject: Census! > Hello all, > > Ultimate is growing faster than ever before. > > Ro-Sham-Bo has had approximately 100 new people turn up this year, > and between 50 and 60 have continued playing. If one was to > extrapolate these numbers over the established student clubs, and add > all the people from new University teams, British Ultimate could have > grown by between 500 and 1000 people in the last few months. > > The Edinburgh Beginners tournament of 32 teams was hugely > oversubscribed. Assuming 6 beginners per side (v. conservative) that > would mean that there were at least 200 new players at this > tournament alone. Furthermore many of the clubs could have produced > at least one more team. > > Bearing in mind this growth (which may not be linear!), I > think that British Ultimate needs to conduct a census for the > following reasons: > > 1) To accurately count the numbers playing ultimate in this country. > > 2) To see what groups of people are leaving ultimate. > > 3) To establish what teams are forming and breaking up, thereby > reducing the number of people left without a team. > > 4) Establish whether ultimate needs restructuring. Should > we set up leagues with divisions, then play tournaments along lines > of which league one is a part of? Do we class tournaments, as > serious, fun, improvers etc. How does womens only and coed fit in? > > 5) Evaluate what sort of BUF ultimate can afford to support. > > Any thoughts? > > Tim > > RSB > Soup From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 12:43:33 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19386 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:42:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19334 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:41:56 GMT Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA02661 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:41:55 GMT Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Mon Nov 29 04:41:14 1999 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, simon.norris@virgin.net Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:41:14 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: West London practice X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:21:56 Simon Norris wrote: >There is a game on Tuesday nights @ Latimer Road, W London from 9-10. Indoors or Outdoors? It's important... --- Wayne Retter at work: 01737-273611 at home: 020-8663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 14:28:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08521 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:25:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08220 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:24:28 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17440 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:24:26 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-017.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.147]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA01891 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:30:50 GMT Message-ID: <000a01bf3a76$5dbd4420$93a392c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Census! Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:30:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim Agree totally. Next years 'national' events (indoor regionals/finals + Tour & nationals) will have more rigourous rostering. This will be done via the BUF website to save everyone hassle (I'm working on it now). The rosters could be extended to become a census I guess. As a one-off we could ask teams to list *every* player rather than just those who are playing in national events. Without this information it would be impossible to budget for any proposed changes to the structure of our organisation (I'm talking individual membership and a paid admin - am I boring you yet?!) As you pointed out there are all sorts of benefits to be gained from knowing about the player base. One of the key benefits of individual membership would be (snore...zzzz!) the ability to keep track of players who move house, change jobs, graduate, etc ,etc. We must lose loads of players just because they end up somewhere without a local team. For those of you experiencing deja vu, read Britdisc article 2121 and its thread - we've talked about this before. See the Britdisc archive at http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suaaz/BritDisc/ Ben -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Rogers To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 29 November 1999 10:25 Subject: Census! Hello all, Ultimate is growing faster than ever before. Ro-Sham-Bo has had approximately 100 new people turn up this year, and between 50 and 60 have continued playing. If one was to extrapolate these numbers over the established student clubs, and add all the people from new University teams, British Ultimate could have grown by between 500 and 1000 people in the last few months. The Edinburgh Beginners tournament of 32 teams was hugely oversubscribed. Assuming 6 beginners per side (v. conservative) that would mean that there were at least 200 new players at this tournament alone. Furthermore many of the clubs could have produced at least one more team. Bearing in mind this growth (which may not be linear!), I think that British Ultimate needs to conduct a census for the following reasons: 1) To accurately count the numbers playing ultimate in this country. 2) To see what groups of people are leaving ultimate. 3) To establish what teams are forming and breaking up, thereby reducing the number of people left without a team. 4) Establish whether ultimate needs restructuring. Should we set up leagues with divisions, then play tournaments along lines of which league one is a part of? Do we class tournaments, as serious, fun, improvers etc. How does womens only and coed fit in? 5) Evaluate what sort of BUF ultimate can afford to support. Any thoughts? Tim RSB Soup From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 14:45:32 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17631 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:38:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17423 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:38:18 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09213 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:38:17 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-017.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.147]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02267 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:44:49 GMT Message-ID: <002701bf3a78$51756d80$93a392c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Websites Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:44:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To clarify, The purpose of the britultweb list is to discuss website design and strategy and to spare Britdisc a load of waffle about Active Server, Shockwave Flash, HTML, ODBC, Access, Java, VBScript, SQL, etc etc. Essentially we want a forum for those who know about this stuff. OK? Ben -----Original Message----- From: er2de2 To: British Ultimate Federation Date: 29 November 1999 00:55 Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Websites >Hi Ben, > >At the risk of sounding stupid: What's the difference between britultweb >and britdisc? Do they complement each other, or is britdisc being >superseded? > > I don't get it. > > >Cheers > Tammo > Chevron >er2de2@bigfoot.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: British Ultimate Federation >To: BRITDISC >Date: 27 November 1999 17:17 >Subject: UK Ultimate Websites > > >>Dear All, >> >>Increasing numbers of people are using the Internet and the number of hits >>at the BUF website is rising. >> >>We need to come up with a proper strategy for promoting British Ultimate >via >>the Internet. >> >>If you are interested in this please join our new listbot:- >> >>britultweb-subscribe@listbot.com >> >>Once subscribed, the address of the list is just britultweb@listbot.com >> >>In a couple of days I will stick out a posting on this to get the ball >>rolling. >> >>Cheers >> >>Ben Raviliious >>BUF Secretary >> >> >> >> > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 15:31:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01795 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:12:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01680 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:11:05 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.147]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12677 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:11:04 GMT Received: (qmail 49072 invoked by uid 0); 29 Nov 1999 15:10:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19991129151032.49071.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.159 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:10:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.159] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, bravil@webleicester.co.uk Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Websites Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 07:10:32 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: "Ben Ravilious" > >To clarify, > >The purpose of the britultweb list is to discuss website design and >strategy >and to spare Britdisc a load of waffle about Active Server, Shockwave >Flash, >HTML, ODBC, Access, Java, VBScript, SQL, etc etc. > >Essentially we want a forum for those who know about this stuff. > >OK? > >Ben What about Design and Usability et al? There's no point in having all this great informaition if no one can see/use it and it performs like a dog. Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 29 19:22:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01710 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:21:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01705 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:21:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f114.hotmail.com [209.185.131.177]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA19873 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:21:22 GMT Received: (qmail 70359 invoked by uid 0); 29 Nov 1999 19:20:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19991129192052.70357.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.140.6.67 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:20:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.140.6.67] From: "Chris Dixon" To: matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Census! Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:20:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reservoir Fish had 80 odd start with no over 40 full time members. Our Practices are often ridiculously busy.... Of course this is all great news, and in order to keep new members coming some new infrastructure would be great. The Quill The Fish ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 30 12:38:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03308 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:36:44 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03288; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:36:40 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:39:39 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, BDGA Mailing List From: Dave Neilson Subject: Anyone for GUTS? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk URGENT! PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL PLAYERS NOT ON THIS MAILING LIST. Please let me know (D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk) if you are planning to come to Loughborough to try out for the GB Guts team (details below). Sam ============================================== Sunday 5th December 1999 GB Guts Training (1 day) @ Sports Hall, Loughborough University [Indoor Guts Practice] Please e-mail Sam (D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk) if you plan to attend. Contact Chris "Beardy" Hughes Email yo_beardy@hotmail.com Beardy adds: The sports hall is on Epinal Way, one of the 4 main roads surrounding Loughborough campus, but to get to it you either park in the car park opposite (Loughborough College) or in the visitors car park next to the security gatehouse. The campus is literally just off the M1, junction 23A (I think) definitely signed posted A512 and carry on driving straight, turning right at the roundabout as indicated Loughborough University. turning next right to enter campus (New sports hall on your immediate left, after you turn right) and right again for visitors car park. OR turning next left for Loughborough College Car parking Chris "Beardy" Hughes Phone numbers (01509) 556690 hm (01509) 211515 (kitchen) wk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 30 16:29:15 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28198 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:27:47 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28177 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:27:43 GMT Received: from webshield2.na.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA28829 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:27:40 GMT Received: FROM na-ex-bridge2.nai.com BY webshield2.na.nai.com ; Tue Nov 30 08:31:33 1999 -0800 Received: by dns-3-71.dhcp.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:29:05 -0800 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F01B39317@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Ultimate Footware Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:23:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I find that a good pair of 1998-9 season Nike Air Roma football boots work well - they are similar to the Cica Blade that hung around for a wile, but are lighter, and have more lateral stability (a definite requirement when you are getting as fat as me!) Most people at pickup games here in the states wear Sharks or Pitbulls. Cads -----Original Message----- From: Travers, Neil [mailto:ntravers@hq.ileaf.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 1:50 AM To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Subject: RE: Ultimate Footware Reebock Pitbulls were the competitor to Nike Sharks. Both of these are American Football boots. Also some people like baseball boots as they are lighter. But they are not so comfy. -- Neil Travers work: Fluid Druids home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 10:31:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26527 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:29:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26513 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:29:48 GMT Received: from doorman1.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10194 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:29:46 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman1.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:31:56 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:27:37 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Dave Neilson'" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" , "'BDGA Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Anyone for GUTS? Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:27:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk GUTS indoors!!!!?!! I thought you GUTS players were supposed to be 'double 'ard bastards' Get outside in the cold and toughen those fingers up, you're supposed to be representing your country! Bet the ROC guts team don't practice indoors! Wimps! > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Neilson [SMTP:D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk] > Sent: 30 November 1999 12:40 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; BDGA Mailing List > Subject: Anyone for GUTS? > > URGENT! PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL PLAYERS NOT ON THIS MAILING LIST. > > Please let me know (D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk) if you are planning to come > to Loughborough to try out for the GB Guts team (details below). > > Sam > > ============================================== > > > Sunday 5th December 1999 > > GB Guts Training (1 day) > @ Sports Hall, Loughborough University > [Indoor Guts Practice] > Please e-mail Sam (D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk) if you plan to attend. > > Contact Chris "Beardy" Hughes > Email yo_beardy@hotmail.com > > Beardy adds: > > The sports hall is on Epinal Way, one of the 4 main roads surrounding > Loughborough campus, but to get to it you either park in the car park > opposite (Loughborough College) or in the visitors car park next to the > security gatehouse. The campus is literally just off the M1, junction 23A > (I think) definitely signed posted A512 and carry on driving straight, > turning right at the roundabout as indicated Loughborough University. > > turning next right to enter campus (New sports hall on your > immediate left, after you turn right) and right again for > visitors car park. > > OR > > turning next left for Loughborough College Car parking > > Chris "Beardy" Hughes > > Phone numbers (01509) 556690 hm > (01509) 211515 (kitchen) wk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 14:45:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04385 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04340 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:19 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12285 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:14 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA22717 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:13 GMT Message-Id: <199912021443.OAA22717@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 2 Dec 99 14:43:12 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 2 Dec 99 14:43:08 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Conducting a Census X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There seems to be support for the idea of conducting a census. The question now is how do we conduct the census and what information do we want to obtain from it. Here's a suggestion: 1) We design a form containing the information, ready for a database which can collate whatever results are required. 2) Each club distributes forms to each of their players, who fill the forms in. 3) Each club then either enters the data into a file on the particular database we use, or they send all the written data to the BUF. 4) The BUF then concatenates the files, or enters in the raw data into the central database. They could subcontract a company to do this task or even hire someone as a temporary employee. 5) Data can then be distributed across the community. Obviously, there will be a considerable cost involved, reflecting all the time needed to manage the data. So I propose that each player registered sends a squid for the data entry cost of his/her details. A pound isn't that much money, and if someone makes a bit of cash out of the census it wouldn't bother me if everything was done properly. I don't know, 50p might be more appropriate. The advantage of this scheme of generating the cash, is that people know what the money is being spent on rather than being put into some general bureaucracy. Does anyone know anything about databases? Tim RSB Soup Tim Rogers PhD Student Manufacturing Planning Group School of Mechanical Engineering University of Edinburgh email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 14:46:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04306 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04285 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:11 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f68.hotmail.com [209.185.131.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22177 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:43:10 GMT Received: (qmail 98252 invoked by uid 0); 2 Dec 1999 14:43:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19991202144301.98251.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 06:43:00 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.36] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: jedi only Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 06:43:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk *i don't have an email address for anyone from jedi - in particular this needs to get to bredan cuddihy, cheers, leigh* alright everyone in a slightly predictable, but still quite irritating, way, i have left everything to the last minute and can't mail you any stuff at all. so here's the things i can think of that would have been in the mail: 1. directions to the sports centre/pub: basically, whatever route north you take you will end up on the M8 approaching glasgow. it turns into a 5 lane monster as you get close to the city. take the exit for the cathedral (not sure what number the junction is - 15 maybe), keep following the road until you get to a t-junction with cathedral street (it's just in front of the campus) do a right, heading towards the city centre. go straight over 2 sets of traffic lights (past the university buildings [£] then take the first left you can, it takes you past the entrance to queen street station and down to george square, turn left at the bottom (you have to anyway) then go staight, past the corner of george square, taking a left pretty quickly into john street. you'll be able to see the union from here if the barrier at the top is up you'll be able to drive into the carpark, if not just park on the road (it should be free at the weekend - i'll check this out), the sports centre is past the barrier and to the left. that's for if you're coming up on sat am. if you're coming on fri night, follow th directions til you get to the [£] then go straight on under th bridge, this is now called bath street keep going through all the traffic lights, over the motorway. after a while you will be forced to go right, that's cool, just go to the street running parallel (sauchiehall street) and follow that in the same direction, after a while you'll come to a sort of y shapd juction with some traffic lights with kelvinhall on one side and the art gallery on the other (nice building - check it out), go straight on at the lights and keep them peeled for the firkin pub on your left. see you there at 9.30pm. 2. schedule not quite finished yet, so i can't tell you when your first game is just yet. but it should be ready for the meeting in the pub. 3. some jokes and pictures you'll still get them - just not yet that's about all. if you're coming on friday night, we're meeting in the fitter and firkin at 9.30pm, if you're coming on saturday morning try to be here around 9ish cos the first game MUST start at 9.30am. don't worry about accomodation - i'm sure we'll find somewhere for you to sleep in a bit leigh 0141 331 0295 let me know if i've forgotten anything important ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 15:06:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14179 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:05:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14161 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:05:46 GMT Received: from lemontree.org (lemontree.org [194.105.162.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16906 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:05:45 GMT Received: from [10.10.10.11] by lemontree.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:08:55 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:00:28 +0000 Subject: Census From: "Andy Catlin" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1267975161-72018649@lemontree.org> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My evil day job is a Marketing & Publicity Manager, so if you want someone to look over your survey or any advice on its construction, I can lend a hand. My initial suggestions would be: - what do you actually want to find out? You'll only get decent results from a decently constructed and decently distributed survey. - how do you intend distributing it? If it only goes through the clubs, BUF, online, etc, you'll end up with a process of candidate self-selection. It might give you a very specific picture of the state of Ultimate at the moment, but won't tell you anything about why people leave the sport. - what do you intend doing with it? Will the survey actually be used to alter/influence anything? Having a picture of Ultimate in 2000 might be an attractive idea on paper, but are any of the clubs or BUF in a position to change the organisation, motivation, recruitment, etc? I don't want to sound depressing, but if you don't intend using the results of a survey, don't actually do one. Thought, suggestions, musings, etc....? Andy Catlin, Marketing & Publicity Manager (Falling Skies) The Lemon Tree, 5 West North Street, Aberdeen, AB24 5AT Tel (01224) 647999/Fax (01224) 630888/Pager 04325 216711 Visit The Lemon Tree's Webpage : www.lemontree.org From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 16:16:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23913 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:13:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23883 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:13:07 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05565 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:13:06 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA00854; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id LAA15265; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id QAA25153; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:12:12 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:12:11 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A021001FB@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: GB Open Team - Informal London Practice Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:12:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > All those who are interested in playing for the Open squad this year, > > I have arranged an informal practice on Sunday in Clapham. > > Details: Clapham Common (by Eagle Pond) Sunday Dec 5 at 12pm (Noon) > > Please contact me if you are interested in attending. > > Aram From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 21:05:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17752 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:04:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17736 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:04:33 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03570 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:04:33 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA11465 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:04:32 GMT Message-Id: <199912022104.VAA11465@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 2 Dec 99 21:04:32 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 2 Dec 99 21:04:04 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:03:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Objectives of Census X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Andy, > what do you actually want to find out? At the very least: 1) How many people play ultimate. 2) Where people live. 3) What team they play for. Can add to this to find stuff like age, how many tournys go to etc. Whether they are prepared to subscribe to the BUA. >how do you intend distributing it? The BUF can store the data, peoples addresses etc. Any statistical results from the census can be put on the BUF home page. >It might give you a very specific >picture of the state of Ultimate at the moment, but won't tell you >anything about why people leave the sport. I don't agree. By looking at data over successive years, one can determine which groups of people are leaving the sport. Stuff like: age, just left university, if people have moved to areas where there is no ultimate, break up and reforming of teams etc. >- what do you intend doing with it? At the moment, many people who leave university or move to a new area end up without a team. Through the BUF they can find out who plays in their local area, or anywhere else for that matter. The main task is to make sure everyone who wants to continue playing ultimate can play ultimate. Monitor the growth of ultimate. As I said in my previous emails the growth at the moment is larger than ever. If we don't reorganise then British ultimate as it is currently structured (I mean implicit as well as explicit structure) will not be able to cope. The net result will probably just be that the sport will not grow. >are any of the clubs or BUF in a position to change the >organisation,motivation, recruitment, etc? I don't see why clubs and the BUF are not in a position to change the organisation. As for motivation, I can only say that if you want to go to party you have to have a party! There are some who won't bother, but there are plenty of people more motivated. Finally, I think we have to careful not to make a 'mountain out of a molehill'. Its not something that needs to be done professionally to target a particular market. However, there is a cost incurred in the data entry, as we cannot expect members of the BUF to sit up in the small hours and type in details of 2000 odd ultimate players. Tim RSB Soup Tim Rogers PhD Student Manufacturing Planning Group School of Mechanical Engineering University of Edinburgh email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 00:19:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25667 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:09:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25652 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:09:35 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16090 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:09:34 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-007.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.137]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA08352 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:16:13 GMT Message-ID: <007801bf3d23$a330d760$89a392c3@pii266> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Conducting a Census Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:14:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to say it, but there's just no way you can expect every player to fill in a form. I know - its my job to try! The only way it could happen is if you happened to be contacting individuals about something else which they had good reason to respond to. (e.g. membership subs letters). There are so many people 'on the fringes' who play occasionally or maybe play at their school who you could never expect to reach. Arguably such people are the ones we'd be most interested in too - Doh! We're going to have to be damn careful we don't exclude these people with individual membership as it is. I think there *is* some mileage in the idea of a survey which team contact could fill in on behalf of their players. We already do this very casually with the annual BUF subs form. Funny how Catch 22 always had 22 players - yeah right! Heck, its hard enough trying to contact some teams let alone individuals. They'd have to have a good incentive to complete it (e.g. "you can't go to any tournaments unless you've done it" or "you get x benefits") I think you need to wait for a change in our organisation before you try this stuff - but it would be an interesting exercise. To be honest I would be more interested in directly targeting people who didn't renew subs rather than 'gathering data'. I take it you're volunteering ;-) Ben -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Rogers To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 02 December 1999 14:51 Subject: Conducting a Census There seems to be support for the idea of conducting a census. The question now is how do we conduct the census and what information do we want to obtain from it. Here's a suggestion: 1) We design a form containing the information, ready for a database which can collate whatever results are required. 2) Each club distributes forms to each of their players, who fill the forms in. 3) Each club then either enters the data into a file on the particular database we use, or they send all the written data to the BUF. 4) The BUF then concatenates the files, or enters in the raw data into the central database. They could subcontract a company to do this task or even hire someone as a temporary employee. 5) Data can then be distributed across the community. Obviously, there will be a considerable cost involved, reflecting all the time needed to manage the data. So I propose that each player registered sends a squid for the data entry cost of his/her details. A pound isn't that much money, and if someone makes a bit of cash out of the census it wouldn't bother me if everything was done properly. I don't know, 50p might be more appropriate. The advantage of this scheme of generating the cash, is that people know what the money is being spent on rather than being put into some general bureaucracy. Does anyone know anything about databases? Tim RSB Soup Tim Rogers PhD Student Manufacturing Planning Group School of Mechanical Engineering University of Edinburgh email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 10:21:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13260 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:19:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13243 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:19:16 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14055 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:19:16 GMT Received: from p110-harc1-kirklees2.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.185] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 11tpiT-0000Uh-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:13:29 +0000 Message-ID: <000001bf3d77$efc91ac0$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: References: <199912022104.VAA11465@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Objectives of Census Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:19:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is for anyone who has an idea of what the BUSA is looking for. Would a census help convince the BUSA to make the BUF a member? I mean if we could show them hard evidence of how many universities have teams and how many student players there are. Would this also help with Sports Council recognition? Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers To: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:03 PM Subject: Objectives of Census > Andy, > > > what do you actually want to find out? > At the very least: > > 1) How many people play ultimate. > 2) Where people live. > 3) What team they play for. > > Can add to this to find stuff like age, how many tournys go to etc. > Whether they are prepared to subscribe to the BUA. > > >how do you intend distributing it? > The BUF can store the data, peoples addresses etc. Any > statistical results from the census can be put on the BUF home page. > > >It might give you a very specific > >picture of the state of Ultimate at the moment, but won't tell you > >anything about why people leave the sport. > > I don't agree. By looking at data over successive years, one can > determine which groups of people are leaving the sport. Stuff like: > age, just left university, if people have moved to areas where there > is no ultimate, break up and reforming of teams etc. > > >- what do you intend doing with it? > At the moment, many people who leave university or move to a new area > end up without a team. Through the BUF they can find out who plays > in their local area, or anywhere else for that matter. The main task > is to make sure everyone who wants to continue playing ultimate can > play ultimate. > > Monitor the growth of ultimate. As I said in my previous emails the > growth at the moment is larger than ever. If we don't reorganise > then British ultimate as it is currently structured (I mean > implicit as well as explicit structure) will not be able to cope. > The net result will probably just be that the sport will not grow. > > >are any of the clubs or BUF in a position to change the > >organisation,motivation, recruitment, etc? > > I don't see why clubs and the BUF are not in a position to change the > organisation. As for motivation, I can only say that if you want to > go to party you have to have a party! There are some who won't > bother, but there are plenty of people more motivated. > > Finally, I think we have to careful not to make a 'mountain > out of a molehill'. Its not something that needs to be done > professionally to target a particular market. However, there is a > cost incurred in the data entry, as we cannot expect members of the > BUF to sit up in the small hours and type in details of 2000 odd > ultimate players. > > Tim > > RSB > Soup > Tim Rogers > PhD Student > Manufacturing Planning Group > School of Mechanical Engineering > University of Edinburgh > email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 10:43:46 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21132 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:41:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21120 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:41:44 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25427 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:41:43 GMT Received: from postcard.kscl.com ([194.159.98.2]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11tq9l-000O2V-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:41:41 +0000 Received: by postcard.kscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:40:44 -0000 Message-ID: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E0947AD84B1@letterbox.kscl.com> From: Fraser Macrae To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Objectives of Census Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:41:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I looked into the recognition thing again early this year. From the Scottish Sports Council angle. to be considered for recognition, we need minimum 5000 registered players but was told realistically we need 5-10 times that amount (25-50,000 players). This is consistent with what the buf was told last time we applied to the sports council. Also sports council recognition is a pre-requisite for the student equiv. We do not have nearly enough players even if EVERYONE fills in a form. Fraser Sneeeky's P.S. I do think a survey is good to count players and get a register of where everyone lives. It might help get players in remote places to hook up with a team, but that's about it. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Lowe [mailto:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] Sent: 03 December 1999 10:19 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Objectives of Census This is for anyone who has an idea of what the BUSA is looking for. Would a census help convince the BUSA to make the BUF a member? I mean if we could show them hard evidence of how many universities have teams and how many student players there are. Would this also help with Sports Council recognition? Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers To: Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 9:03 PM Subject: Objectives of Census > Andy, > > > what do you actually want to find out? > At the very least: > > 1) How many people play ultimate. > 2) Where people live. > 3) What team they play for. > > Can add to this to find stuff like age, how many tournys go to etc. > Whether they are prepared to subscribe to the BUA. > > >how do you intend distributing it? > The BUF can store the data, peoples addresses etc. Any > statistical results from the census can be put on the BUF home page. > > >It might give you a very specific > >picture of the state of Ultimate at the moment, but won't tell you > >anything about why people leave the sport. > > I don't agree. By looking at data over successive years, one can > determine which groups of people are leaving the sport. Stuff like: > age, just left university, if people have moved to areas where there > is no ultimate, break up and reforming of teams etc. > > >- what do you intend doing with it? > At the moment, many people who leave university or move to a new area > end up without a team. Through the BUF they can find out who plays > in their local area, or anywhere else for that matter. The main task > is to make sure everyone who wants to continue playing ultimate can > play ultimate. > > Monitor the growth of ultimate. As I said in my previous emails the > growth at the moment is larger than ever. If we don't reorganise > then British ultimate as it is currently structured (I mean > implicit as well as explicit structure) will not be able to cope. > The net result will probably just be that the sport will not grow. > > >are any of the clubs or BUF in a position to change the > >organisation,motivation, recruitment, etc? > > I don't see why clubs and the BUF are not in a position to change the > organisation. As for motivation, I can only say that if you want to > go to party you have to have a party! There are some who won't > bother, but there are plenty of people more motivated. > > Finally, I think we have to careful not to make a 'mountain > out of a molehill'. Its not something that needs to be done > professionally to target a particular market. However, there is a > cost incurred in the data entry, as we cannot expect members of the > BUF to sit up in the small hours and type in details of 2000 odd > ultimate players. > > Tim > > RSB > Soup > Tim Rogers > PhD Student > Manufacturing Planning Group > School of Mechanical Engineering > University of Edinburgh > email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 12:25:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05393 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:23:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05292 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:23:00 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03009 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:22:58 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA28632 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:22:42 GMT Message-Id: <199912031222.MAA28632@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 3 Dec 99 12:22:42 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.31); 3 Dec 99 12:22:22 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:22:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Simpler Census X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, last bit I'll say on this. I wouldn't expect people to fill out a form and post it to the BUF. My idea was for a member of each of the individual clubs to hand out and collect forms at practices, together with the administration charge and send them to the BUF. If there is a problem with forms, can we not at least get each club to take a register with: Number of Beginners (played less than a year), Number who have been to a tourny, Number of Players who have played more than a year. Number who have been to a tourny, Average number of tourny's players have gone to per year (would like to go to). Tim RSB Soup Tim Rogers PhD Student Manufacturing Planning Group School of Mechanical Engineering University of Edinburgh email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 13:10:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18698 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:08:47 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18480 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:08:20 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (mavea@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08838 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:08:19 GMT From: mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Received: from localhost (mavea@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28483 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:08:17 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: mavea owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:08:17 +0000 (GMT) To: Britdisc Subject: Bristol and Newport Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone let me know what the chances of Bristol and Newport Indoors going ahead in the new year are? Answers by 11am Tuesday would be much appreciated. Cheers, Sarah (Bears) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 13:26:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26280 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:23:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26227 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:23:22 GMT Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA12086 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:23:21 GMT Received: from 10.1.1.42 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 03 Dec 1999 07:23:37 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by exchangesmtp.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:32:33 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Lift offered Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:23:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm driving to Birmingham tonight from South London, leaving well after rush hour (8-ish?). Anyone want a ride, then give me a call. For the record I have a red car with a dent in the door but it wasn't my fault, OK? Cheers Wayne Angels, Overflow, Albatross, whoever... smile at me and I'll play for you too Home 020 8675 9180 Work 020 7298 3365 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 13:36:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00812 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:33:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00646 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:33:09 GMT Received: from eugate02.e-mail.com (eugate02.e-mail.com [194.196.143.94]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06230 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:52:18 GMT Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id MAA86690 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:48:46 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:51:44 -0000 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBB7DF4A@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: RE: Simpler Census Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:51:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I thought you said the point of this would be to find out more about 'fringe' players. If you honestly believe that they're going to pay the BUF for the privilege of giving them their name and address then you might be surprised to find there's not a lot of people playing the game. Moley baboom All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 13:38:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01109 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:34:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01005 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:33:38 GMT Received: from doorman1.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06251 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:52:25 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman1.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:54:25 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:50:09 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Simpler Census Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:50:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree that we need something along these lines to show the Sports Council how the sport is growing. If it was pitched to each club captain/organiser as a route to getting recognition and funding (or made a mandatory part of joining the BUF) then surely every club would reply. I think a form sent by each club would be the most viable option. This could be done on a single form, or preferably an e-mail questionaire, (surely every team must have some form of access to e-mail). I know it would be a hassle for one individual in each club (I'd have to do the UTI one) but if the benefits were sold in well it could work. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Rogers [SMTP:trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk] > Sent: 03 December 1999 12:22 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Simpler Census > > Sorry, last bit I'll say on this. > > I wouldn't expect people to fill out a form and post it to the BUF. > My idea was for a member of each of the individual clubs to hand out > and collect forms at practices, together with the administration > charge and send them to the BUF. > > If there is a problem with forms, can we not at least get each > club to take a register with: > > Number of Beginners (played less than a year), > Number who have been to a tourny, > > Number of Players who have played more than a year. > Number who have been to a tourny, > Average number of tourny's players have gone to per year (would like > to go to). > > > Tim > RSB > Soup > Tim Rogers > PhD Student > Manufacturing Planning Group > School of Mechanical Engineering > University of Edinburgh > email: trogers@srv1.mech.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 20:49:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13192 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:48:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13180 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:48:27 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18126 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:48:26 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tne4963a.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.19]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA07087 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:48:50 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:48:50 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199912032048.UAA07087@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ox Women's Tournament Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OXFORD WOMEN'S TOURNAMENT - 11/12th December. There are still a couple of places left. If any teams/individual women would like to play then please contact me. If you don't have sufficient numbers for a full team then I can put you in touch with somebody who needs pick-up's. Tara (01865) 726995 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 21:15:03 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18372 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18362 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:13 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01725 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:12 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11u01r-000BPI-0C; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:47:50 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Fluid Druids Mailing List From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Bristol and Newport References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes >Can someone let me know what the chances of Bristol and Newport Indoors >going ahead in the new year are? Answers by 11am Tuesday would be much >appreciated. When the chappie at Newport comes back to me with availability for the three weekends (15+16 Jan, 22+23 Jan, 5+6 Feb) we're checking out, we (probably in the Royal sense) will be announcing the Newport Indoor tournament. In the meantime, the annual Newport tournament has a 1 in a million chance of happening. Wayne Retter PS: Anyone that will admit to reading books by Terry Pratchett will be able to tell you that 1 in a million chances actually occur 9 times out of 10. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 3 21:16:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18407 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18401 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:28 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18975 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:27 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11u026-000BPU-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 21:14:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 20:24:19 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Conducting a Census References: <007801bf3d23$a330d760$89a392c3@pii266> In-Reply-To: <007801bf3d23$a330d760$89a392c3@pii266> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben Ravilious writes >Sorry to say it, but there's just no way you can expect every player to fill >in a form. I know - its my job to try! It took 3 weeks just to gather the Druids' WUCC roster details from our squad of 18... (OK, some of the Druids are uncooperative at the best of times, but we're NOT the worst...) Scaling that up across the "known" 40-odd teams (that entered the Tour, so what about the rest?) could take all year, by which time, some of your data is out of date! A census is a great idea, but needs (for the first one at least) to be of life-or-death style importance... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 07:48:42 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20314 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:47:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20309 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13488 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA23264 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199912060747.HAA23264@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 11th December 1999 GB Training (1 day) @ Woughton Playing Fields, Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Patch Winser Email patch@winser.com Oxford Women's Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Oxford [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Tara Jewell Address 10 Tyndale Road Oxford OX4 1JL Email 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Phone 01865 246158 Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kevin Blanch Address 36 Thackeray Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Email kpb298@soton.ac.uk Phone 01703 390832 07974 659206 (mobile) Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; 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Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 12:54:05 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07255 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:51:12 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06911 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:50:46 GMT From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16424 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:50:45 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA09059; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:50:44 +0100 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <09F9A715BB72D011A6800000F822D242040EC850@gb-chw-mail2.charnwood.gb.astra.com> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB practice Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 10:36:30 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As there is a womens tourne on this weekend coming I think it is safe to assume there will be no womens GB practice, but what about the co-ed practice? Can someone tell us of this is going to go ahead as I don't want to be the only woman at the practice if I go. It might be fun but I don't think it would be very useful. Cheers Suze ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644924 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645574 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 13:01:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13883 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:58:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13480 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:58:28 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f227.hotmail.com [209.185.130.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27129 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:58:24 GMT Received: (qmail 89114 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 1999 12:57:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19991206125753.89113.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:57:51 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.36] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, jonathancurran@dtn.ntl.com, robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, robdouglas69@hotmail.com, jas@jsangha.freeserve.co.uk, david.kitts@strath.ac.uk, thor.abrahamsen@strath.ac.uk, kathy_in_austria@hotmail.com, claire.watt@strath.ac.uk, cordoyno@hotmail.com, gavin.gilligan@strath.ac.uk, pamela.adams@strath.ac.uk, clare.connolly@strath.ac.uk, andrew.bryce@strath.ac.uk, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk, rontoboy@hotmail.com, gerard.lee@strath.ac.uk, nicolezeller@hotmail.com, iandunnlost@hotmail.com Cc: superclarke@hotmail.com Subject: "so what happened at cindy?" Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:57:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk well i'll tell you final positions were: 24 (trixies bags of pleasure winners) elepant dung 23 flatball project 2 22 falling skies 2 21 york 2 20 the source 19 highly strung 18 falling skies 1 17 (spoon - glittery shoes, really - winners) fish 2 16 ro sham bo 3 15 jedi 2 14 york 1 13 flatball project 4 12 flatball project 3 11 shooting stars 2 10 well hung 9 (plate - silver handbag, really - winners) shooting stars 1 8 northern lights 7 disciples 6 ro sham bo 2 5 fish 1 QUALIFIERS 4 jedi 1 3 ro sham bo 1 2 far flung 1 flatball project 1 fish 1 took the spirit of the game title. well done to the qualifiers, particuarly flatball project. cheers to everyone who came and enjoyed themselves - not one single person had a go at me. wow. at the presentation thingy i was so intent on just staying alive that i forgot to mention tournament tshirts are available for order. they are lovely and white with a lovely black print, on the front is a cool picture that nicole drew (it was also on the posters) and on the back you have a choice of "a tournament for pleasure" or "a flat backed bitch of a tournament" i'll see if i can get someone clever to scan the designs and mail em to you. but i might not be able to. if you want one anyway, just let me know, they'll be £7 each. ok a bit of lost property: black woolly hat pair black thinsulte gloves pair black fleece gloves red nike hat slinky red v neck jumper purple "sail with the elephants" t grey UBC t off white quiksilver t navy fleece scarf that's all really. thanks again to dave for living up to his guru status so well, and thanks to everyone who helped out with the scorekeeping. in a bit leigh ps here's the jokes i got in return for cakes. (for which i accept no responsibilty - you don't have to read em) why do women fake orgasms? cos they think we care how do you make a dog drink? put it in a blender you can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think. knock knock who's there? bigish bigish who? sorry mate, got no change what's the difference between a catholic priest and acne? acne only comes on a kids face at the age of 13 what's the odd one out: egg, donkey, sex? you can beat an egg, beat a donkey, but you can't beat sex alf and mabel have been married 60 years, they live in a retirement home. one day alf comes home and says, "mabel, i'm leaving you" at this mabel is upset and asks, "why alf, we have been happily married for 60 years, why would you be leaving me?" "it's because i've met someone else" "who?" "it's ethel down the hall" "but what could ethel possibly give you that i don't?" "well she gives me oral sex mabel" "but i give you oral sex too darling" "i know dear, but ethel has parkinsons disease" what do you call a blonde upside down? a brunette with bad breath what do you call a prostitue with white eyes? full ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 14:50:26 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19392 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:47:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19220 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:47:45 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29438 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:04:42 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27276 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:04:37 GMT Received: from B12A-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b12a-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.9]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id NAA01208 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:55:39 GMT From: Kevin Blanch Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Indoors In-Reply-To: <199912060747.HAA23264@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:55:38 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA19241 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Regarding the cost of the Southampton indoor tournement, I have forgotten to take into account some of the costs involved, One being BUF tax. Therefore could all teams comming to the tournement please send an additional cheque for £15.00 made payable to S.U Frisbee. The total cost therefore being £75.00, Which is still less than most tournements anyway. Apologies Kevin p.s. Sarah Davidson, I owe you £5.00 ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 15:06:36 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27862 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:03:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27826 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:03:21 GMT Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20265 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:03:20 GMT Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11uzh5-0007b4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:04:51 +0000 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:13:59 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Ultimate 5-a-side footy Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:13:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA27829 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last call for anyone wishing to enter this. There are still one or two spaces left for teams wishing to show off their skills or laugh at how bad we all are. Get involved in some spawny, last minute, dubious winning goals, as achieved by the local team lately. Details below Ben Mitchell Chevron Action Flash Hello Ultimate playing football fans. This is to remind you (again) of the 5-a-side football tournament for Ultimate players. It's a one day event on 11th December. The cost is £50 per team Send cheques to - 42 Richmond Mt, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 1DF made payable to 'mild mannered janitors'. Contact Arun (0113 224 9680) for further details. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 16:33:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04758 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:22:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04634 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:21:50 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f42.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.42]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14523 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 12:33:49 GMT Received: (qmail 6547 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 1999 12:33:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19991206123312.6546.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.167 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:33:12 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.167] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com, scotdisc@egroups.com Cc: shooting_stars@egroups.com Subject: Shooting Stars Christmas Partt and Hat Tourny Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:33:12 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk *Sorry for the cross post, but players asked me to send it this way. Please forward this to you team egroup* Dear all A review and update of the forthcoming event. • The Stars Christmas party is still on the 11th of Demcember (this Saturday) at 7.30pm. This is an open invitation to any ultimate players who would like to come.It will be superb, our own DJ Red is on the decks. :) • Sunday 12th is Hat tournament day. Exact format eg mini league etc will be depend on numbers attending. All individuals will be made especially welcome! If enough people are around on Satuday we can have a practice before the party too. Please email me asap if you would like to attend so I can get you some floor space for Saturday night. Cheers Bes* Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 17:33:58 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21775 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:32:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21747 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:32:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f220.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.220]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA10578 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:32:22 GMT Received: (qmail 57509 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 1999 17:31:50 -0000 Message-ID: <19991206173150.57508.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 134.36.142.31 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:31:50 PST X-Originating-IP: [134.36.142.31] From: "Jester Bit" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, scotdisc@egroups.com, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Shooting Stars Christmas Party and Hat Tourny: additional Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:31:50 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ahem It would appear I'm a bit bollocks at this disimination of information thing: The Party will be held on the function balcony of the Nether Inn, Dundee. (11.12.99) The Hat tourny will take place in Magdalen Park, or possible some adjacent plaing fields, Dundee. Provisional start time10am (12.12.99). Sorry Jes* ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 6 22:43:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03130 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:42:25 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03123 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:42:23 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02340 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:42:18 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11v6pg-0008jm-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:42:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:40:34 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: GB practice References: <09F9A715BB72D011A6800000F822D242040EC850@gb-chw-mail2.charnwood.gb.astra.com> In-Reply-To: <09F9A715BB72D011A6800000F822D242040EC850@gb-chw-mail2.charnwood.gb.astra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com writes >As there is a womens tourne on this weekend coming I think it is safe to >assume there will be no womens GB practice, but what about the co-ed >practice? Can someone tell us of this is going to go ahead as I don't want >to be the only woman at the practice if I go. It might be fun but I don't >think it would be very useful. I spoke to Sarah D on Monday night. She's planning to attend, and is under the impression that Jackie H, Clare P and Lucy B are too. Sarah's thoughts were that if the Mixed Manager (Jeff Jackson) doesn't call it off, then it's still happening... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 7 13:33:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28629 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:30:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28608 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:30:26 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10807 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:30:25 GMT Received: from [212.140.65.67] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11vKhB-0005Eu-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:30:21 +0000 Message-ID: <004801bf40b7$73ebf6a0$43418cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: RE: Conducting a Census Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:30:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With all the census talk, you might like to know-- The plans for the Co-ed Tour, which btw now should be known as the Mixed Tour (WFDF likes 'Mixed' better ??!) include a rostering system which will feed into a database. The idea is that all teams will have to roster each player at every tournament. Hopefully, this will help track players movements as to change of address, change of status from student to poor working slob, change of e-mails, etc. Of course, this will only cover players who play in a 'sanctioned' Mixed event. But I am hoping this will serve as a test for future BUF/BUA census activities. So anyway, if there isn't a huge rush for the census thing- we could use the Mixed rosters as a test census to see what kind of problems arise. Suggestions are also welcome for the types of info we might find useful, in addition to the basic 'who are you and where do you live' type stuff. As for the rest of the Mixed Tour plans- they'll be out by mid-January. Sorry for the delay- baby stuff has kept me a bit busier than I expected. Nancy Stebbing Mixed Co-ordinator From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 7 18:48:37 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17540 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:47:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17534 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:47:12 GMT Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10766 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:47:12 GMT Received: from modem-54.zidovudine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.182] helo=oemcomputer) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 11vPde-00001s-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:47:02 +0000 Message-ID: <006201bf40d9$ef432860$02000003@oemcomputer> From: "Archie" To: Subject: Birmingham Indoors report..... Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:37:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01BF40E2.2720A2A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BF40E2.2720A2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Birmingham Indoors 1999 This weekend saw 21 ulitmate teams descend on Birmingham for the first = Ultimate tournament the city has seen, and it all went along pretty = well. The Saturday began early with 17 minute pool games kicking off at = 9:15am. A particular highlight was a tough first game for Latte losing = by a point to Look at Me. Pool C proved to be a bit of a surprise with = tight games all round resulting in a three way tie for top spot. Head to = head results not resolving it, points difference had to be used and = Slipdisc came out on top allowing them to automatically qualify for = Sundays top 8 along with BAF 1, Mexican horse Bandits and Look at Me. Late Sat afternoon saw the crossover games with teams placed 2nd and 3rd = in the pools playing for places in the top or middle 8, and the 4th and = 5th placed teams playing for positions in the middle 8 and bottom 5. = Phat eds 1, strangeways, hammerage and Team latte all proceeded into the = top 8. Games to decide bottom 5 or middle 8 were hotly contested and = surprisingly saw phat eds 2 conquer JOW and a much improved BAF 2 = conquering WAS. As Sat drew to a close the party loomed. Taking place in the basement of = the Farce and Firkin it kicked off with phat tunes from the live DJs and = Look at Me set a frantic drinking pace with drinking games galore. As = the evening heated up and the atmosphere evolved the younger members of = Up 4 Grabs showed everyone how to really party delighting the crowds = with some top break dancing moves. Sunday began at 9:00am with the quarter finals of the middle 8, Angels, = Whiplash and Bears 2 all progressed towards the plate, in the fourth = quarter finals Up 4 Grabs managed to pull of an upset by beating Bears 1 = 7 to 5 and join the others in the plate semi's. Then came the top 8 = quarters and games were won as expected by BAF 1, Mexican Horse Bandits, = Team latte and Look at me (with sore heads and only after just beating = strangeways by a point). The first of the bottom 5 round robin league = games were then played seeing Brunel and Sub Pats battling it out with = Sub Pats just edging it and taking their first victory of the = tournament. The rest of the Sunday morning saw Up 4 Grabs continue their = winning streak and impressively progress to the plate final along with = Bears 2.=20 At Midday the hall was converted into a single pitch and a spectator = gallery was erected providing a stadium style atmosphere for the top 4 = semis and the place play offs. The first match was a top of the table = semi clash between the unbeaten Mexican Horse Bandits and Team Latte. = Latte came out firing and managed to grab a couple of points lead, = however the iron man team of the bandits fought back hard to bring the = score back to evens. Despite this effort the large pitch proved to much = for the bandits and Latte managed to edge ahead again and take the match = and proceed to the final. The other semi was more clear cut with BAF = decisively beating Look at Me to progress. Next came the conclusion to = the bottom 5 league with JOW and WAS both unbeaten and playing of for = the Silver Spoon. Despite a big effort WAS couldn't overcome JOWs = superior disc skills, and organisation brought by Charlie Mead who they = had picked up for the weekend. All the remaining place play offs proved = to be tight games, with all the teams really enjoying the extra room the = big pitch offered. The Plate final was a hard fought affair with Bears trying their = hardest, but they were just unable to stop the winning streak of Up 4 = Grabs who clinched it with a grab in the zone on the buzzer to win 6-5. = The final saw BAF line up against Team Latte for a 30 minute + 2 point = cap epic. BAF began strong and capitalised on turnovers pulling away = slightly. Team Latte continued to fight for it but BAF maintained their = composure. Great grabs all round from both teams ensured the crowd = enjoyed every minute and the crowd showed their appreciation with many = mexican waves. The two point cap was brought in at 15-12 to BAF. Latte = dug deep and brought it back to 15-14 however BAF then turned it on and = took the two points they needed to finish the game and win the cup at = 17-14.=20 Everyone who I spoke to said they really enjoyed it, and the tournament = raised about =A3700 for charity which was a great effort. All the teams = involved made it fantastic and the games were played with great spirit. = The spirit prize went to WAS an ex warwick recreational team just formed = for the tournament. Respect must also go to Uriel who despite not = winning a game all tournament maintained a great spirit and a continual = party attitude. Thanks to everyone for coming, I enjoyed it despite some technical = hitches and having to use more tipex than i bargained for. Thanks to = everyone who helped out and maybe see you all again next year!? Archie ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BF40E2.2720A2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Birmingham Indoors 1999

This weekend saw 21 ulitmate teams descend on Birmingham for the = first=20 Ultimate tournament the city has seen, and it all went along pretty = well.

The Saturday began early with 17 minute pool games kicking off at = 9:15am. A=20 particular highlight was a tough first game for Latte losing by a point = to Look=20 at Me. Pool C proved to be a bit of a surprise with tight games all = round=20 resulting in a three way tie for top spot. Head to head results not = resolving=20 it, points difference had to be used and Slipdisc came out on top = allowing them=20 to automatically qualify for Sundays top 8 along with BAF 1, Mexican = horse=20 Bandits and Look at Me.

Late Sat afternoon saw the crossover games with teams placed 2nd and = 3rd in=20 the pools playing for places in the top or middle 8, and the 4th and 5th = placed=20 teams playing for positions in the middle 8 and bottom 5. Phat eds 1,=20 strangeways, hammerage and Team latte all proceeded into the top 8. = Games to=20 decide bottom 5 or middle 8 were hotly contested and surprisingly saw = phat eds 2=20 conquer JOW and a much improved BAF 2 conquering WAS.

As Sat drew to a close the party loomed. Taking place in the basement = of the=20 Farce and Firkin it kicked off with phat tunes from the live DJs and = Look at Me=20 set a frantic drinking pace with drinking games galore. As the evening = heated up=20 and the atmosphere evolved the younger members of Up 4 Grabs showed = everyone how=20 to really party delighting the crowds with some top break dancing = moves.

Sunday began at 9:00am with the quarter finals of the middle 8, = Angels,=20 Whiplash and Bears 2 all progressed towards the plate, in the fourth = quarter=20 finals Up 4 Grabs managed to pull of an upset by beating Bears 1 7 to 5 = and join=20 the others in the plate semi's. Then came the top 8 quarters and games = were won=20 as expected by BAF 1, Mexican Horse Bandits, Team latte and Look at me = (with=20 sore heads and only after just beating strangeways by a point). The = first of the=20 bottom 5 round robin league games were then played seeing Brunel and Sub = Pats=20 battling it out with Sub Pats just edging it and taking their first = victory of=20 the tournament. The rest of the Sunday morning saw Up 4 Grabs continue = their=20 winning streak and impressively progress to the plate final along with = Bears 2.=20

At Midday the hall was converted into a single pitch and a spectator = gallery=20 was erected providing a stadium style atmosphere for the top 4 semis and = the=20 place play offs. The first match was a top of the table semi clash = between the=20 unbeaten Mexican Horse Bandits and Team Latte. Latte came out firing and = managed=20 to grab a couple of points lead, however the iron man team of the = bandits fought=20 back hard to bring the score back to evens. Despite this effort the = large pitch=20 proved to much for the bandits and Latte managed to edge ahead again and = take=20 the match and proceed to the final. The other semi was more clear cut = with BAF=20 decisively beating Look at Me to progress. Next came the conclusion to = the=20 bottom 5 league with JOW and WAS both unbeaten and playing of for the = Silver=20 Spoon. Despite a big effort WAS couldn't overcome JOWs superior disc = skills, and=20 organisation brought by Charlie Mead who they had picked up for the = weekend. All=20 the remaining place play offs proved to be tight games, with all the = teams=20 really enjoying the extra room the big pitch offered.

The Plate final was a hard fought affair with Bears trying their = hardest, but=20 they were just unable to stop the winning streak of Up 4 Grabs who = clinched it=20 with a grab in the zone on the buzzer to win 6-5. The final saw BAF line = up=20 against Team Latte for a 30 minute + 2 point cap epic. BAF began strong = and=20 capitalised on turnovers pulling away slightly. Team Latte continued to = fight=20 for it but BAF maintained their composure. Great grabs all round from = both teams=20 ensured the crowd enjoyed every minute and the crowd showed their = appreciation=20 with many mexican waves. The two point cap was brought in at 15-12 to = BAF. Latte=20 dug deep and brought it back to 15-14 however BAF then turned it on and = took the=20 two points they needed to finish the game and win the cup at 17-14.

Everyone who I spoke to said they really enjoyed it, and the = tournament=20 raised about =A3700 for charity which was a great effort. All the teams = involved=20 made it fantastic and the games were played with great spirit. The = spirit prize=20 went to WAS an ex warwick recreational team just formed for the = tournament.=20 Respect must also go to Uriel who despite not winning a game all = tournament=20 maintained a great spirit and a continual party attitude.

Thanks to everyone for coming, I enjoyed it despite some technical = hitches=20 and having to use more tipex than i bargained for. Thanks to everyone = who helped=20 out and maybe see you all again next year!?

Archie

------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BF40E2.2720A2A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 7 18:48:51 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17532 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:47:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17520 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:47:09 GMT Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14264 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:47:08 GMT Received: from modem-54.zidovudine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.182] helo=oemcomputer) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 11vPdb-00001s-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 07 Dec 1999 18:46:59 +0000 Message-ID: <006101bf40d9$ed872080$02000003@oemcomputer> From: "Archie" To: Subject: Birmingham Indoors Results Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:36:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF40E1.F83E1260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF40E1.F83E1260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, This weekend saw the first ulitmate tournament in Birmingham and it was = great. I think everyone had a good time and was happy with how = everything went. The results can be seen below and a tournament report = follows in a seperate email for those who wanna read it. I have a list of lost property and this can be seen further down the = email. Thanks to everyone who came along and thanks to all those people = who helped out with everything. The tournament raised about =A3700 a = great effort. It will go towards paying for materials to carry out = infrastructure projects in remote villages in South Chile. I think the venue was pretty cool so maybe it'll all happen again next = year, but for now Adios Arch Ps. If anyone has any cool photos can they let me know cause i didnt = have time to take any - thanks. Results: 21st Uriel 20th Sublime Patriots 19th Brunel 18th WAS (Wearing Awful Shirts) - Spirit Winners 17th JOW (Journeymen of Wristaction) - Silver Spoon Winners 16th Phat Eds 2 15th BAF 2 14th Bears 1 (Mixed team of Bears 1&2) 13th Mild Mannered Janitors 12th Angels 11th Whiplash 10th Bears 2 9th Up 4 Grabs - Plate Winners 8th Slipdisc 7th Strangeways 6th Phat Eds 1 5th Hammerage (First Touch) 4th Mexican Horse Bandits 3rd Look at Me=20 2nd Team Latte 1st BAF - Cup Winners Lost property list: Red Polo Sport Ralph Lauren Disc Birmingham A to Z Zefal water bottle silvery with black and blue trim White contact lense holder Kahuna watch (broken) Pair of black and grey timberland trainers Beige/cream checked hooded top, with buttons and a blue ink stain on Blue addidas sweatshirt, without stipes just the logo Janitors WUCC 99 red top number 54 Dark blue NX top with cream stipe down arms Black and White world Japan Ultimate Club Champioships 1992 t-shirt Black fleece scarf Black "Life is short drink faster" T-shirt Track suit/shell suit materialish bottoms, made by ZOE, camoflage green, = with a lighter green stipe running down the leg Umbro black top with red and white Umbro logo on front, and small logo = stip running down arms ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF40E1.F83E1260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
This weekend saw the first ulitmate = tournament in=20 Birmingham and it was great.  I think everyone had a good time and = was=20 happy with how everything went.  The results can be seen below and = a=20 tournament report follows in a seperate email for those who wanna read=20 it.
 
I have a list of lost property and this = can be seen=20 further down the email.  Thanks to everyone who came along and = thanks to=20 all those people who helped out with everything.  The tournament = raised=20 about =A3700 a great effort.  It will go towards paying for = materials to=20 carry out infrastructure projects in remote villages in South=20 Chile.
 
I think the venue was pretty cool so = maybe it'll=20 all happen again next year, but for now
 
Adios
 
Arch
 
Ps. If anyone has any cool photos can = they let me=20 know cause i didnt have time to take any - thanks.
 

Results:
 
21st Uriel
20th Sublime=20 Patriots
19th Brunel
18th WAS (Wearing Awful Shirts) - = Spirit=20 Winners
17th JOW (Journeymen of Wristaction) - Silver Spoon=20 Winners
16th Phat Eds 2
15th  BAF 2
14th Bears 1 = (Mixed=20 team of Bears 1&2)
13th  Mild Mannered=20 Janitors
12th Angels
11th Whiplash
10th Bears=20 2
9th Up 4 Grabs - Plate=20 Winners
8th Slipdisc
7th Strangeways
6th Phat = Eds=20 1
5th Hammerage (First Touch)
4th  Mexican Horse=20 Bandits
3rd Look at Me 
2nd Team = Latte
1st BAF -=20 Cup Winners
 
Lost property list:
Red Polo Sport = Ralph Lauren=20 Disc
Birmingham A to Z
Zefal water bottle silvery with black and = blue=20 trim
White contact lense holder
Kahuna watch (broken)
Pair of = black and=20 grey timberland trainers
Beige/cream checked hooded top, with buttons = and a=20 blue ink stain on
Blue addidas sweatshirt, without stipes just the=20 logo
Janitors WUCC 99 red top number 54
Dark blue NX top with = cream stipe=20 down arms
Black and White world Japan Ultimate Club Champioships 1992 = t-shirt
Black fleece scarf
Black "Life is short drink faster"=20 T-shirt
Track suit/shell suit materialish bottoms, made by ZOE, = camoflage=20 green, with a lighter green stipe running down the leg
Umbro black = top with=20 red and white Umbro logo on front, and small logo stip running down=20 arms
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01BF40E1.F83E1260-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 8 13:38:01 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27121 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:34:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27114 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:34:43 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13797 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:34:41 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20699 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:34:40 GMT Received: from B62B-17.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62b-17.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.187]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id NAA12977 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:30:27 GMT From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton accomodation In-Reply-To: <199912060747.HAA23264@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:30:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those comming to Southampton indoors, as I mentioned before; if you are in need of staying in a house, don't hesitate in contacting me - we have plenty of people offering to put people up. If not below is the list of a few hotels near the Uni and the tourist information number if you want B&bs etc. 'Travelodge' Lodge road - 01703 229023 'Highfield Hotel' - 01703 595545 Tourist information numbers - 01703 627235 01703 221106 Cheers Kevin Address 36 Thackeray rd 07974 659206 Portswood 01703 390832 Southampton SO17 2GT ---------------------- Kevin kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 8 14:06:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08150 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:05:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08126 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:05:15 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f127.hotmail.com [209.185.131.190]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26257 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:05:13 GMT Received: (qmail 42026 invoked by uid 0); 8 Dec 1999 14:04:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19991208140441.42025.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.25.55.50 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 06:04:41 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.25.55.50] From: "Helen Myers" To: Archie@ultimate.fsbusiness.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Birmingham Indoors Results Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 09:04:41 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Howdy! Well, I may have moved across the Atlantic now, but I'd just like to let y'all know that the tournament last weekend in Birmingham was not the first that the city has seen ... if I recall correctly, we have held at least two women's ultimate tournaments in Birmingham ... That's all for now ... have fun and git ho!! Helen PS : Looking forward to seeing some of you in Tampa for the Millennium countdown ... >From: "Archie" >To: >Subject: Birmingham Indoors Results >Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:36:26 +0100 > >Hello, > >This weekend saw the first ulitmate tournament in Birmingham and it was >great. I think everyone had a good time and was happy with how everything >went. The results can be seen below and a tournament report follows in a >seperate email for those who wanna read it. > >I have a list of lost property and this can be seen further down the email. > Thanks to everyone who came along and thanks to all those people who >helped out with everything. The tournament raised about £700 a great >effort. It will go towards paying for materials to carry out >infrastructure projects in remote villages in South Chile. > >I think the venue was pretty cool so maybe it'll all happen again next >year, but for now > >Adios > >Arch > >Ps. If anyone has any cool photos can they let me know cause i didnt have >time to take any - thanks. > > >Results: > >21st Uriel >20th Sublime Patriots >19th Brunel >18th WAS (Wearing Awful Shirts) - Spirit Winners >17th JOW (Journeymen of Wristaction) - Silver Spoon Winners >16th Phat Eds 2 >15th BAF 2 >14th Bears 1 (Mixed team of Bears 1&2) >13th Mild Mannered Janitors >12th Angels >11th Whiplash >10th Bears 2 >9th Up 4 Grabs - Plate Winners >8th Slipdisc >7th Strangeways >6th Phat Eds 1 >5th Hammerage (First Touch) >4th Mexican Horse Bandits >3rd Look at Me >2nd Team Latte >1st BAF - Cup Winners > >Lost property list: >Red Polo Sport Ralph Lauren Disc >Birmingham A to Z >Zefal water bottle silvery with black and blue trim >White contact lense holder >Kahuna watch (broken) >Pair of black and grey timberland trainers >Beige/cream checked hooded top, with buttons and a blue ink stain on >Blue addidas sweatshirt, without stipes just the logo >Janitors WUCC 99 red top number 54 >Dark blue NX top with cream stipe down arms >Black and White world Japan Ultimate Club Champioships 1992 t-shirt >Black fleece scarf >Black "Life is short drink faster" T-shirt >Track suit/shell suit materialish bottoms, made by ZOE, camoflage green, >with a lighter green stipe running down the leg >Umbro black top with red and white Umbro logo on front, and small logo stip >running down arms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 8 14:06:11 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07985 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:04:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07966 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:04:53 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16613 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:04:53 GMT Received: from brownhill.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.254]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11vhi8-0007Zg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:04:52 +0000 Received: from BROWNHILL/SpoolDir by brownhill.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 8 Dec 99 14:03:38 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BROWNHILL (Mercury 1.46); 8 Dec 99 14:03:29 +0000 Received: from [143.167.75.223] (143.167.75.223) by brownhill.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46) with ESMTP; 8 Dec 99 14:03:25 +0000 X-Sender: PCA98SRP@brownhill.shef.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:04:00 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Sarah Payne Subject: Lost in Birmingham Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello First of all cheers Archie for your Ultimate Orgy last weekend in Birmingham. I think you should do it again next year. i managed to lose my Phat 'eds tshirt there and was wondering if anyone picked it up by mistake. Its the navy one with the circle thing happening on the back. I'd love it back so that it no longer felt lost. Hope someone can help. Sarah Phat 'eds -if you hadn't already guessed. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 8 15:47:02 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07281 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:45:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07268 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:45:41 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08730 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:45:40 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11vjHf-0001lY-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:45:40 +0000 Subject: RE: Conducting a Census Date: Wed, 8 Dec 99 15:47:00 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "britdisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes, rosters... Very good point Nance. I did suggest a while ago that maybe someone could do a count from the rosters from indoor regionals, seeing as this is probably the best attended rostered event we do (lots of beginner students take part, bumping the numbers up). This would at least give us some kind of quotable figure for the number of players in the country (the fundamental statistic we need - can't believe we still don't know). It wouldn't be *correct* of course (leaves out the "shmindoors" players) but then you just estimate that, who knows, say 1 in 5 players doesn't play in regionals, so add 25% to get estimated number of players in the country. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 8 17:41:49 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15027 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:40:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15006 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:40:41 GMT Received: from seralph10.essex.ac.uk (seralph10.essex.ac.uk [155.245.240.160]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08039 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:40:40 GMT Received: from [155.245.217.202] (helo=bsv002) by seralph10.essex.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 11vl4y-0000S4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:40:40 +0000 Message-ID: <007701bf41a3$5218e0a0$cad9f59b@essex.ac.uk> From: "Sasha Dall" To: "britdisc" Subject: Colchester subscribers? Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:40:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there anyone on this living in and around Colchester? I ask because I'm trying to revamp ultimate in the area. We (Katey Forth & I) have already got possible indoor venues (the Uni & the Leisure Centre) and would be interested in weekend outdoor sessions if there was enough interest. Please write back and let me know who you are.. Cheers, Sasha General Ultimate Tart (Doughboy, Shotgun, Headrush etc. etc.) GET PAID TO SURF THE WEB! Join now at http://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refid=CZC-811 and please use my membership ID (CZC-811) when asked if you were referred by someone. --------------------------------------------------------- Department of Biological Sciences John Tabor Laboratories University of Essex Colchester, CO4 3SQ, UK Tel: +44 1206 873769 Fax: +1 240 368 8208 Email: SashaDall@iname.com Voicemail: +1 240 368 8208 ---------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 8 20:28:25 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21077 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:27:40 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21072 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:27:38 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk ([212.1.157.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19156 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:27:37 GMT Received: from 212.159.131.5 [212.159.131.5] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk); Wed, 8 Dec 1999 20:31:05 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Wed, 8 Dec 99 20:31:05 +0000 Message-ID: <384D6D95.729E@totalise.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 20:27:04 +0000 From: jack goolden Reply-To: jgoolden@totalise.co.uk Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-VM711-000 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: subscibe Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 9 14:49:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03103 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:45:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03088 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:45:20 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14328 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:45:19 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04370 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:45:17 GMT Received: from TRAINB-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (ak3009-8.sul.soton.ac.uk [152.78.209.44]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id OAA04441 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:38:51 GMT From: Kevin Blanch Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton directions In-Reply-To: <199912060747.HAA23264@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:38:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.4 Build (40) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Directions for those comming to the Southampton indoor tournement: LONDON Take M3 South, Turn of at Junction 14 and follow A33. Go straight on when you arrive at a roundabout and continue down the A33 until you come to a set of lights (Big building on your left). Turn left at these lights onto 'Burgess road'A35. Continue past first set of lights and shell garage, turn right at 2nd set of lights (HSBC and 'The Stile' pub on corner). You are now on University road; continue along and use carpark on the right hand side opposite the 'Hartley library' NORTH Get onto M40 and take junction 9 near Oxford onto the A34. Continue south on A34 until you arrive at the M3, take M3 southbound Turn of at Junction 14 and follow A33. Go straight on when you arrive at a roundabout and continue down the A33 until you come to a set of lights (Big building on your left). Turn left at these lights onto 'Burgess road'A35. Continue past first set of lights and shell garage, turn left at 2nd set of lights (HSBC and 'The Stile' pub on corner). You are now on University road; continue along and use carpark on the right hand side opposite the 'Hartley library'. WEST (M4) Take junction 14 off M4 onto the A34 south, follow A34 until you arrive at M3, take M3 southbound Turn of at Junction 14 and follow A33. Go straight on when you arrive at a roundabout and continue down the A33 until you come to a set of lights (Big building on your left). Turn left at these lights onto 'Burgess road'A35. Continue past first set of lights and shell garage, turn left at 2nd set of lights (HSBC and 'The Stile' pub on corner). You are now on University road; continue along and use carpark on the right hand side opposite the 'Hartley library'. West (M27) Take junction 5 off M27 and follow A335. Turn right at juction with Mcdonalds on the corner onto Burgess road(A35). Continue up the hill, past Burger King, straight on at first crossroads, then left at traffic lights with 'The Stile' pub on the corner. You are now on University road; continue along and use carpark on the right hand side opposite the 'Hartley library'. EAST Get onto M27, take junction 5 off M27 and follow A335. Turn right at juction with Mcdonalds on the corner onto Burgess road(A35). Continue up the hill, past Burger King, straight on at first crossroads, then left at traffic lights with 'The Stile' pub on the corner. You are now on University road; continue along and use carpark on the right hand side opposite the 'Hartley library'. Any problems phone 07974 659206 Cheers Kevin ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 9 18:29:56 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15416 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:28:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15406 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:28:14 GMT Received: from seralph10.essex.ac.uk (seralph10.essex.ac.uk [155.245.240.160]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05128 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:28:07 GMT Received: from [155.245.217.202] (helo=bsv002) by seralph10.essex.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 11w8IR-0002D6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 18:28:07 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Sasha Dall" To: "britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: FW: Good? press for ultimate... Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:27:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf4273$1d299580$cad9f59b@essex.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here's something from Forbes Life that was forwarded to me from a friend in the States.. so we're the HiTech/Internet sport are we? Enjoy, Sasha XX -----Original Message----- From: swsides@mailgate.sandia.gov [mailto:swsides@mailgate.sandia.gov]On Behalf Of Scott W. Sides Sent: 09 December 1999 17:34 To: Brett Annaheim; Christine Louy; Dan Zaffuto; Daniel Duffy; Danny Kasbar; Deez Ole; Geoff Burda; Jamie Witkowski; Katey Forth; Kent Carlson; Mickey; Monica Raymond; Paul D. Cathers; Red; Sam Krosney; Sasha Dall; Sean Elliott Subject: Good? press for ultimate... > > Monday, December 13, 1999 > > > > Forbes Life > > > >Sports Disc Drive If you want to connect with the digital crowd over sports, > >put away those videos on how to improve your golf swing. Work on perfecting > >your "huck" and your "scoober." > > > > BY Ann Marsh > > > > ULTIMATE FRISBEE HAS BEEN VERY VERY GOOD to Steve T. Jurvetson. In > > 1995 Jurvetson, then a 28-year-old partner in the Palo Alto venture > > capital firm of Draper Fisher Jurvetson, was wondering whether to fund a > > small e-mail directory outfit called Four11.com. It turned out that > > Jurvetson and two of Four11's founders shared a passion for ultimate > > frisbee, or "disc." > > > > That's what devotees call the game of ultimate frisbee, and these fans > > are a devoted bunch indeed. If you plan to make your fortune in the > > dot.com world but you don't know a scoober from a blade, you'd better > > learn. Ultimate is the high-tech community's version of golf, but with a > > lot more heart-attack potential. > > > > Jurvetson liked Four11's business plan just fine, but more important, > > he liked the style Michael Santullo and Larry Drebes displayed during > > the lunchtime pickup games the three played regularly. It wasn't just > > their skill, it was also their teamwork and the code of honor that count > > for as much as athleticism in the sport's New Agey ethos. Vince Lombardi > > has left the building. > > > > Says Jurvetson, "If someone cheats or constantly criticizes, they may > > not be someone you want to hire." > > > > After a particularly sweaty ultimate frisbee face-off, the Four11 > > founders and the Draper Fisher Jurvetson partners signed paperwork for > > $825,000 in seed funding on the hood of a car. Two years later Yahoo > > acquired Four11. Today DFJ's investment is worth around $345 million in > > Yahoo stock. As they say in discland, that's hot! > > > > Ultimate hasn't quite reached golf's critical mass--yet. It's pretty > > hard to count noses, but supposedly there are at least 100,000 people > > nationwide who play it regularly. In the Bay Area are some of the > > country's busiest ultimate leagues--teams have names like Spastic > > Plastic, Saucy Jack and Feral Cows--but most of Silicon Valley can't > > commit to a regularly scheduled anything. Games tend to get arranged ad > > hoc, say, when everyone finishes inventing the latest Web browser. > > Browse over to www.upa.org for > > > > pickup game listings worldwide. > > > > "Without sounding melodramatic, this is a game that mirrors a lot of > > the values of the Valley," says Peter Nieh, 33, a venture capitalist > > with Weiss, Peck & Greer in San Francisco. Nieh recently invested in > > Clip2.com after a referral from an angel investor he met on the field > > (if you happen to run into him there, just call him "Nee"). "It's > > fast-paced, intense, very dynamic. You never have time to set up. Unlike > > > > > > football, it just goes and goes and goes." > > > > In fact, ultimate frisbee came about as an antidote to the oppressive, > > hierarchical vibes in sports like football. The first game was played in > > 1968 in Maplewood, N.J. Among the inventors: Joel Silver, who went on > > to produce such humongous Hollywood hits as the Die Hard and Lethal > > Weapon series and The Matrix. "I moved in the student council that we > > investigate getting frisbee onto the high school curriculum," recalls > > Silver. Silver and his friends spent the next two years in the high > > school parking lot--the grass field was a later refinement--devising the > > rules. "At the end of my obit, they'll say, 'He also invented ultimate > > frisbee,"' Silver predicts proudly. > > > > Today's game is played on a football-length field with two teams of > > seven players each. Players throw the disc past defenders to a teammate > > who scores by catching it in one of two end-zones at either end of the > > field. There are no "downs" or requirements for yardage gains, as in > > football. The team on offense keeps advancing until the defending team > > can wrest possession of the frisbee by knocking down or intercepting a > > pass. Play continues nonstop. > > > > Players can score by throwing short, crisp passes up the field or by > > heaving long, dramatic "hucks" that are far more difficult to catch > > because of the frisbee's varying flight patterns in changing winds. The > > result is intense sprinting, leaping and volleyball-like "lay outs" for > > the disc. It's taxing, to put it mildly. > > > > Just as important to its partisans is how ultimate departs from the > > underlying spirit of football, which is probably the reigning corporate > > sports metaphor. Unlike football, ultimate is the ideal flat-management > > sport. There are no fixed positions, no highly-specialized roles; > > everyone is a quarterback and everyone is a receiver. There are no men > > in gray flannel shoulder pads on an ultimate field. > > > > The founding nerds also enshrined the spirit of tolerance for spazzes > > and other athletically challenged players. They had felt the sting of > > rejection often enough themselves. Silver recalls, "The jocks were a > > clique. In ultimate, everybody played. It was a nonpolarizing game that > > didn't hold to caste lines." > > > > It's not unusual to attend a pickup game where talented athletes share > > the field with first-timers dropping the disc right and left. Sarah > > Anderson, 33, the new vice president of marketing at Egreetings.com in > > San Francisco, just started playing the sport this past summer. You can > > see her running around Golden Gate Park like a maniac on Saturdays with > > husband Dante Anderson, 37, a former captain of the Canadian national > > ultimate team. > > > > Turnabout is fair play. In October Dante got a job as director of Web > > content at Everdream.com, which gives away free PCs while charging steep > > monthly service fees to technophobes. He went into his Everdream > > interview expecting to talk about his resume. "They said, 'Yeah, yeah, > > but tell me more about frisbee,"' he recalls. > > > > "Ultimate embraces the idea of people being many things instead of > > being a specialized cog in some moneymaking machine," says William > > (Willie) Herndon, a schoolteacher from Venice, Calif. who's been playing > > ultimate frisbee almost as long as Joel Silver has. Herndon recently > > finished his own worshipful documentary on the sport, called Spirit of > > the Game, which gets shown privately in ultimate circles. > > > > Spirit of the Game takes its title from the game's revered code of > > sportsmanship, painstakingly written by the frisbee founding fathers in > > the early 1970s. This is a hallowed document; laugh only if don't give a > > hoot whether or not your startup gets funding. > > > > According to Spirit: "Highly competitive play is encouraged, but > > never at the expense of the bond of mutual respect between players. And > > never with an intention to abuse the agreed-upon rules of the game or > > destroy the pure joy of play." Bill Gates, you are hereby sentenced to > > remedial gym class. > > > > Players resolve foul calls themselves on the field according to > > agreed-upon protocols and, ideally, they acknowledge their own > > transgressions. The sport is set to make its debut at the World Games in > > Japan in 2001. Without referees. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Valley of the Sun Ultimate > >http://www.vots.org > > *********************************************************************** > Robert Levy PHONE: 301-614-6123 > SSAI FAX: 301-614-6307 > NASA/GSFC code 913 EMAIL: levy@climate.gsfc.nasa.gov > Greenbelt, MD 20771 > > Also affiliated with the Institute for Flying Disc Science > *********************************************************************** -- Scott W. Sides Integrated Materials Research Laboratory (Blg. 897) Sandia National Labs 1515 Eubank S.E. MS-1411 Albuquerque, NM 87123 swsides@sandia.gov http://www.scri.fsu.edu/~sides home: (505) 298-0632 work: (505) 844-9846 FAX: (505) 844-9781 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as to seem not worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it. -- Bertrand Russell Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever. --Gandhi There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. --Mark Twain %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 9 22:53:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04685 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:52:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04678 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:52:25 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f164.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.164]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA13712 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:52:25 GMT Received: (qmail 85733 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 1999 22:51:53 -0000 Message-ID: <19991209225153.85731.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.83.240.34 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:51:53 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.83.240.34] From: "Chris Hughes" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Guts Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 14:51:53 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk THANKS to all those that attended the Guts session at Loughborough on Sunday, I`ll be organising another session at Loughborough just after Christmas. Cheers Chris `Beardy` Hughes PS Thanks to both Sammy and Jeff who travelled down from Manchester to show us all the basics of the game. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 10 12:12:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11163 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:34:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11102 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:34:11 GMT Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (web120.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.121]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19135 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:34:09 GMT Received: (qmail 10633 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 1999 11:34:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19991210113401.10632.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.209.6.43] by web120.yahoomail.com; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 03:34:01 PST Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 03:34:01 -0800 (PST) From: Bryce Spyce Subject: student indoor nationals To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BD, sorry if you are not a student but here goes, on the subject of a 20 or 24 team championship, hows about giving the extra spaces to the regions who did best last year? Basically this means that the "Scotland and hangers-on" pool of death becomes less loaded. Since the tounie is seeded on the basis of last year's results I feel that seeding the 'number of qualifying spaces' is not unreasonable. Sorry for entering the debate so late Bryce Renwick, Captain of Farf Lung, Ultimate at Glasgow University And mudculture but only on sundays ===== \|||/ (@@) ooO_(_ )_Ooo________________________________ _____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____| ___|____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____ _____|____|_____|_____|_____|Bryce woz 'ere __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 10 16:37:22 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27747 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:22:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27675 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:22:04 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03619 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:22:03 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tk761d89.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.113.30]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA02685 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:22:30 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:22:30 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199912101522.PAA02685@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Oxford women's tourn directions Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Directions to Oxford Women's tournament. Oxford University sports centre, Jackdaw Lane, Iffley Road, Oxford. >From the M40 come off at Oxford onto the A40. At the large roundabout with MacDonalds on the corner, go straight over on to the London Road to Oxford (A420). Stay on this road for ages, through traffic lights, down a hill to a mini roundabout. Take the 2nd exit on your left on to the Iffley Road (A4158). Jackdaw Lane is on your right just before a church. First right into the University car park, the University sports centre is on your right. Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Dec 11 18:56:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12544 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:35:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12531 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:34:56 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26674 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:34:54 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-014.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.144]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA02534 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:41:31 GMT Message-ID: <005b01bf43ff$077b3620$90a392c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Team Contact Details - Online! Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 17:41:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, You can now update you team contact details on the BUF website:- http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ PLEASE NOTE:- The new update page uses an email verification system so that only the owners of the existing listed contact email addresses - plus the BUF - are able to make changes to the data. If you do not have access to the listed addresses (e.g. the previous contact email is obselete) please proceed with the update and then contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk to have your update activated. PLEASE give as much information as possible as this will enable site visitors to find your team as easily as possible. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 13 00:19:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21814 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:51:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21805 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:51:27 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f105.hotmail.com [216.32.181.105]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA01072 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:51:27 GMT Received: (qmail 56302 invoked by uid 0); 12 Dec 1999 22:50:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19991212225056.56301.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.126.144.12 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:50:56 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.126.144.12] From: "Alistair Topping" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: calling Daniel Burdett Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:50:56 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is for Daniel Burdett or his buddy Sam. Please contact me at atopping@hotmail.com It's regarding Juniors next year Ali Topping ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 13 09:10:31 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16816 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:47:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16750 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24428 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA00453 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199912130747.HAA00453@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 18th December 1999 Southampton Indoors (2 days) @ Southampton University [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kevin Blanch Address 36 Thackeray Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2GT Email kpb298@soton.ac.uk Phone 01703 390832 07974 659206 (mobile) Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 13 11:56:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26484 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:30:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26441 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:30:13 GMT Received: from InterJet.classicstationery.ie ([194.125.174.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27750 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:30:06 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by InterJet.classicstationery.ie (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14894 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:20:43 GMT Received: from Simon.classicstationery.ie(192.168.1.175) via SMTP by InterJet.classicstationery.ie, id smtpdM14892; Mon Dec 13 09:20:39 1999 Message-ID: <008701bf454b$609f9c80$af01a8c0@simon.classicstationery.ie> From: "Chris Stokes" To: Subject: Looking for Mark from RED Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:21:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01BF454B.60102DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BF454B.60102DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark - how are you? drop me a mail here as i'm trying to get hold of your friend and mine - = Ian Martin cheers buddy chris (still in Dublin but looking to get out) ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BF454B.60102DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01BF454B.60102DC0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 13 13:50:19 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23216 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:15:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23183 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:15:31 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07926 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:15:30 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:11:26 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:13:54 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E487@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Indoor Regionals / Nationals` Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:13:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, after a couple of mails inquiring about indoor regionals - I can tell you that I will be advertising the tournaments once we have all the possibilities sorted. However I am still looking for an offer to host a qualifying (regional) event, in 1) Scotland, and 2) North of England, and more importantly 3) does any one want to hold Nationals - I have two possibilities (but both admit that they wouldn't be ideal - for different reasons) I need responses on this NOW! either email me here (chughes@chelt.ac.uk), there (cjhughes@talk21), phone 01452 380529, or preferably all three. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 13 16:11:08 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28510 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:44:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28466 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:44:14 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f135.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA20948 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:44:13 GMT Received: (qmail 85471 invoked by uid 0); 13 Dec 1999 15:43:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19991213154335.85470.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 163.1.103.101 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:43:35 PST X-Originating-IP: [163.1.103.101] From: "Emily J. Lyons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:43:35 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi! I am wondering if anyone is looking for players for this weekend's Southampton tournament. I've just moved to the UK and am trying to play as much ultimate as possible and meet new people. If you have a spot for a woman on your team (3 years experience, decent skills), I'd appreciate it if you'd send me an e-mail. Thanks much! --Emily ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 13 20:44:10 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19394 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:07:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19366 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:07:10 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08443 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:07:10 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tne497ec.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.22]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA18521 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:07:40 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:07:40 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <199912132007.UAA18521@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Oxford Women's Indoors Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oxford Women's Indoors, Final placings: 1.Bliss (London) 2.BAF (Cheltenham) 3.Phat'Eds (Sheffield) 4.Janet Hawes (Leeds) 5.Angels/Organics (London) 6.OW! (Oxford) 7.Squaws (Brighton) Spirit: Squaws Tournament Report: The tournament was played on a round-robin format initially, with play-offs between 1v2, 3v4 and a three-way pool between 5-7. Games were 25 minutes. Saturday saw some very close games, notably Phat'Eds v Janet Hawes with JH winning in sudden death and Squaws v OW! with Squaws winning the crucial final point. Team player lateness saw both Bliss and BAF resorting to 4-(wo)man zone, both teams succeeding in baffling their opponents with very 'junky' D to clinch the top two places at the end of the round-robin. The Bliss v BAF game included BAF resorting to playing their joker with a debut performance by a rather ugly bearded chick called 'Casey'. After an impressive start she quickly lost form, being shown the disc on several occasions thereafter, helping to ensure a Bliss victory. Sunday brought 2 epic battles between OW! and Angels in the space of 3 games, the first being the last round-robin game, the second a 5v7 play-off. Both games were closely fought with Angels emerging victorious. Both Phat'Eds and OW! got revenge for their sudden-death defeats on Saturday, Phat'Eds taking 3rd place from Janet Hawes; OW! pipping Squaws to 6th place with a lay-out 'D' from junior Carlene which brought enthusiastic applause from the home crowd. The final saw a rematch between Bliss and BAF (plus 2 pick-ups and a benched Casey), filmed by Channel 6 (an Oxford TV channel). Thanks to all the teams that attended. The standard of play improved dramatically over the weekend, resulting in hard fought but spirited games throughout both days. Congratulations to Squaws on winning spirit - Natalie, you would have been proud of them! Looking forward to seeing you all again at women's nationals. Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 14 14:11:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14846 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:59:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14816 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:59:32 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20953 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 12:59:31 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-049.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.179]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11734 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:05:44 GMT Message-ID: <017e01bf4634$1054cd60$bba392c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: TV Volunteers Wanted Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 13:02:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Channel Four's 'The Bigger Breakfast' are doing a slot on ultimate next week. They need a couple of volunteers who can make a fairly early morning shoot in East London. We think it should be a man and a woman who are prepared to demonstrate throws in a Blue Peter garden fashion (not you Merrick ;-) If you are up for it or want to find out more please contact Jon Hope on 01865 726995 or Jonathan.Hope@Oxtutor.co.uk Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 14 15:45:47 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16055 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:21:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16004 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:21:09 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01202 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:21:07 GMT Received: from mail-1.sbs.demon.net ([193.195.0.131]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11xtl5-000PVH-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:20:59 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 11xtl5-0002no-00; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:20:59 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) id ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:39:23 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: TV Volunteers Wanted Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:39:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.74) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk (not you Merrick ;-) Basically :-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 14 16:21:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24982 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:55:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24927 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:54:56 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03808 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:54:55 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:50:47 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:53:17 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E48E@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: TV Volunteers Wanted Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:53:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to spoil your fun, but you may not realise that Merrick is not on Britdisc. However should you wish to email him on merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk then that would be much more entertaining... Chris > ---------- > From: Max Keogh[SMTP:max@student-reservations.co.uk] > Sent: 14 December 1999 14:39 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: RE: TV Volunteers Wanted > > (not you Merrick ;-) > Basically > :-) > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 15 03:01:07 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14356 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:20:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA14345 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:20:32 GMT Received: from mail.idec.net (root@mail.idecnet.com [194.179.48.11]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15668 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:20:31 GMT Received: from oemcomputer (acceso-9d.lpa.idec.net [195.57.22.158]) by mail.idec.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA22715 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:20:25 GMT Message-ID: <006801bf469b$7c50ab80$9e1639c3@oemcomputer> From: "ignacio arcos" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?1=BABEACH_HAT_ULTIMATE_CIUDAD_DE_LAS_PALMAS_DE_GRAN_CANARIA?= Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 02:25:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01BF46A3.AC624C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BF46A3.AC624C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody=A1=A1=A1 We would like to include our web page in yours.we are going to host this = crazy event on March.It would be a good opportunity to dive when the = most of the world are getting cold.Please,visit and include our web: http://club.idecnet.com/~iag/ Contact for any question:iag@idecnet.com We wait for you in Canary Islands on March.Thank you Top subscriptions:100 ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BF46A3.AC624C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0056_01BF46A3.AC624C40-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 15 10:00:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25159 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:20:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25123 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:19:58 GMT From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA12033 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:19:57 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA02421; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:19:56 +0100 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <09F9A715BB72D011A6800000F822D24204A3024E@gb-chw-mail2.charnwood.gb.astra.com> To: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Oxford Women's Indoors Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:19:59 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well, if Casey is an ugly bearded chick then I am a not so ugly, clean shaven lesbian ;-) Suze -----Original Message----- From: jewell tara s [mailto:97315250@brookes.ac.uk] Sent: 13 December 1999 20:47 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Oxford Women's Indoors Oxford Women's Indoors, Final placings: 1.Bliss (London) 2.BAF (Cheltenham) 3.Phat'Eds (Sheffield) 4.Janet Hawes (Leeds) 5.Angels/Organics (London) 6.OW! (Oxford) 7.Squaws (Brighton) Spirit: Squaws Tournament Report: The tournament was played on a round-robin format initially, with play-offs between 1v2, 3v4 and a three-way pool between 5-7. Games were 25 minutes. Saturday saw some very close games, notably Phat'Eds v Janet Hawes with JH winning in sudden death and Squaws v OW! with Squaws winning the crucial final point. Team player lateness saw both Bliss and BAF resorting to 4-(wo)man zone, both teams succeeding in baffling their opponents with very 'junky' D to clinch the top two places at the end of the round-robin. The Bliss v BAF game included BAF resorting to playing their joker with a debut performance by a rather ugly bearded chick called 'Casey'. After an impressive start she quickly lost form, being shown the disc on several occasions thereafter, helping to ensure a Bliss victory. Sunday brought 2 epic battles between OW! and Angels in the space of 3 games, the first being the last round-robin game, the second a 5v7 play-off. Both games were closely fought with Angels emerging victorious. Both Phat'Eds and OW! got revenge for their sudden-death defeats on Saturday, Phat'Eds taking 3rd place from Janet Hawes; OW! pipping Squaws to 6th place with a lay-out 'D' from junior Carlene which brought enthusiastic applause from the home crowd. The final saw a rematch between Bliss and BAF (plus 2 pick-ups and a benched Casey), filmed by Channel 6 (an Oxford TV channel). Thanks to all the teams that attended. The standard of play improved dramatically over the weekend, resulting in hard fought but spirited games throughout both days. Congratulations to Squaws on winning spirit - Natalie, you would have been proud of them! Looking forward to seeing you all again at women's nationals. Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 15 10:17:12 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28039 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:39:05 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28012 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:38:57 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:42:07 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: WE NEED YOU! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To: BritDisc The newly formed GB Ultimate management team, made up of five Divisional Managers (DMs) and the General Manager (GM) will need the help of a number of volunteers if the WUGC 2000 campaign is to be a success. As I outlined in my submission to Laura and the BUF Executive some months ago, I believe we will need maybe three or four extra volunteers to sort out administrative tasks: Adminstrator x 'N' ------------ The role of each administrator is to ensure the smooth running of their designated area of logistical support, liaising closely with the GM and relevant members of the BUF Executive. The GM, on behalf of the six-person management team, may seek volunteer administrators to support a wide range of tasks which are indirectly linked with the selection, preparation and performance of the National Ultimate Teams, including such areas as: booking and publicity of practice sessions; tournament registration; financial arrangements; travel and transport; playing kit; and sponsorship. So, taking those areas in the order listed, here are the jobs that we NEED YOUR HELP with: 1) booking and publicity of practice sessions To be handled by the DMs (with some help from their friends). 2) tournament registration To be co-ordinated by the GM. 3) financial arrangements [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] We will need someone to co-ordinate the money side of the WUGC 2000 campaign - this is likely to include some or all of the following: practice facility bookings; team registration; player registration; transport booking; team kit orders; insurance; sponsorship monies. The nature of this role means they would have to be in close contact with lots of different people: 5+1 management team; the other administrators; BUF officers etc. [Someone has been approached about this, but it is not yet confirmed]. 4) travel and transport [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] It would be good if someone looked into the various travel options (flights, trains, coach) and made some recommendations about whether it would be cost effective to arrange group travel to Heilbronn. As I think Patch will testify, this can be quite an involved process, but the benefits for such a large group would make it worthwhile. This person might also investigate travel insurance options. 5) playing kit [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] Again, it would be good to have one person to look after this. Ideally they could organise a design competition while shopping around to get the best value for money. Shirts & shorts (with numbers) are probably the minimum requirements, but tracksuits might be a possibility - this person would keep in close contact with whoever is looking into sponsorship opportunities ... 6) sponsorship [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] If a volunteer could be found with experience of securing sponsorship for sports teams, that would be superb. There are many types of sponsorship deals: product only; cash donations; gender specific; age specific; and even individual sponsors. It would be good if the same person could look into the group possibilities as well as advising individuals about how they could strike their own deals. This volunteer ought to keep in close contact with DMs and also work with the BUF Publicity Officer, especially with promotional material and press releases. PLEASE DON'T BE SHY! With five Ultimate squads plus some Guts players, this will be the largest GB contingent ever to venture abroad to represent their country at a World or European disc championships - we need your assistance to make this goal a reality! Could anyone interested in helping out in any of the above roles, please contact me for more details. Cheers Sam Neilson GB General Manager. 20 Alexandra Court Priory Road Kenilworth CV8 1SB H: 01926 864 276 [evenings + answerphone] E: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 15 10:53:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05739 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:16:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05680 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:16:23 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06309 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:16:15 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id LAA21725; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:16:03 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma021723; Wed, 15 Dec 99 11:16:04 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA14868; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:15:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA24727; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:15:28 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900005945969; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:17:25 +0100 To: Cc: <97315250@brookes.ac.uk>, Subject: RE: Oxford Women's Indoors Message-ID: <0056900005945969000002L092*@MHS> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:17:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 12/15/99 11:14:06" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA05701 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Suzanne, you don't want to say things like that on Brit Disc, your just asking for trouble!! Hannah (Bliss/ BAF ringer) Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com@SMTP@warwick.ac.uk on 15/12/99 10:03:25 Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk@SMTP 97315250@brookes.ac.uk@SMTP cc: Subject: RE: Oxford Women's Indoors Classification: Restricted Well, if Casey is an ugly bearded chick then I am a not so ugly, clean shaven lesbian ;-) Suze -----Original Message----- From: jewell tara s [mailto:97315250@brookes.ac.uk] Sent: 13 December 1999 20:47 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Oxford Women's Indoors Oxford Women's Indoors, Final placings: 1.Bliss (London) 2.BAF (Cheltenham) 3.Phat'Eds (Sheffield) 4.Janet Hawes (Leeds) 5.Angels/Organics (London) 6.OW! (Oxford) 7.Squaws (Brighton) Spirit: Squaws Tournament Report: The tournament was played on a round-robin format initially, with play-offs between 1v2, 3v4 and a three-way pool between 5-7. Games were 25 minutes. Saturday saw some very close games, notably Phat'Eds v Janet Hawes with JH winning in sudden death and Squaws v OW! with Squaws winning the crucial final point. Team player lateness saw both Bliss and BAF resorting to 4-(wo)man zone, both teams succeeding in baffling their opponents with very 'junky' D to clinch the top two places at the end of the round-robin. The Bliss v BAF game included BAF resorting to playing their joker with a debut performance by a rather ugly bearded chick called 'Casey'. After an impressive start she quickly lost form, being shown the disc on several occasions thereafter, helping to ensure a Bliss victory. Sunday brought 2 epic battles between OW! and Angels in the space of 3 games, the first being the last round-robin game, the second a 5v7 play-off. Both games were closely fought with Angels emerging victorious. Both Phat'Eds and OW! got revenge for their sudden-death defeats on Saturday, Phat'Eds taking 3rd place from Janet Hawes; OW! pipping Squaws to 6th place with a lay-out 'D' from junior Carlene which brought enthusiastic applause from the home crowd. The final saw a rematch between Bliss and BAF (plus 2 pick-ups and a benched Casey), filmed by Channel 6 (an Oxford TV channel). Thanks to all the teams that attended. The standard of play improved dramatically over the weekend, resulting in hard fought but spirited games throughout both days. Congratulations to Squaws on winning spirit - Natalie, you would have been proud of them! Looking forward to seeing you all again at women's nationals. Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 06:27:35 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA12500 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:19:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA11996 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:13:42 GMT Received: from angel.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA00811 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:13:42 GMT Received: (qmail 11504 invoked from network); 16 Dec 1999 06:13:39 +0100 Received: from kent.algonet.se (194.213.74.90) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 16 Dec 1999 06:13:39 +0100 Received: from sdu185-79.ppp.algonet.se ([195.163.79.185]) by algonet.se (BLUETAIL Mail Robustifier1.0.4) with ESMTP ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 05:13:39 GMT From: "Paul Eriksson" To: "Inese Birgele" , , , , , "Zygimantas Maleckas" , "Deividas Markevicus" , "Jurij Ishchishin" , , , , , , , , "Tom Reiter" , , "Maris Puurmann" , , , "Piret-Klea Velleste" Subject: VB: Invitation to Veliky Novgorod Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 06:14:08 +0100 Message-ID: <01bf4784$61c02220$b94fa3c3@tmeksccr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Halloj !!! Since Dima's had some problems with his server, he asked me to help him by forwarding this invitation. If you're interested, pls reply to his address. /Paul Eriksson STockholm ULtimate Invitation to Veliky Novgorod This is an invitation to the 3-day international frisbee ultimate tournament called "Lord Novgorod the Great - frisbee 2000" played for the second year in Veliky Novgorod, Russia on February 4,5,6. We invite all interested and very interested players to come to oldest and beautiful city of Russia! More details about our city you can obtain via Internet from http://www.novgorod.ru (English version also avalible there). We are planning for altogether 16 teams from Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden and, of course, from Russia. Some of these teams are university teams. If you don't have a team, you're of course welcome to join any of the participating teams. If there's enough interest , we will organize womens division, otherwise everyone will play in open. The team fee is 10 $ for all women teams, 25 $ for teams from post-Warsaw-pact countries, 100 $ for western teams (sorry, guys!!) The lodging will cost from 4$ per night per person. If you are interested, please contact Dmitri Tsymbal at zda@novsu.ac.ru or phone me +7 (8162) 116944 (home) from 23.00-24.00 or from 7.00-8.00 by Moscow time. (In this time I exactly still at home :-)) Please give me preliminary notice of interest by December 20, so I can prepare your visa applications and book your lodging. And I need definite answer by JANUARY 15, to have enough time to get your visa invitations ready. For your travel from S:T PETERSBURG to VELIKY NOVGOROD (4 hours by bus), please contact GEORGE FEODOROV in S:T PETERSBURG FRISBEE CLUB at rfdf@mail.ru or uralex@mail.wplus.net (this e-mail is more preferably) FOR PICTURES AND RESULTS FROM THIS YEARS TOURNAMENT, PLS CHECK OUT WEBSITE http://hem2.passagen.se/berrra/ryssland/ryssland.html Let's meet in Veliky Novgorod! Dima :-) PS. Special thanks to Inese Birgele and Paul Eriksson for this text :-))) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 10:13:28 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11961 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:43:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11930 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:43:20 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00258; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:43:20 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.40); 16 Dec 99 09:43:20 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.40); 16 Dec 99 09:43:03 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, bdga@egroups.com Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:42:54 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Kenny Rogers Sued Over Frisbee Toss X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <9897C746197@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Careful what you do with those discs.... Kenny Rogers threw a frisbee towards the end of a performance in hotel in Dallas. It struck a chandelier and glass showered down on an accountant staying in the hotel. The guy needed 70 stitches and Rogers is facing a $2 million lawsuit. http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/kennyrogers121499.html PS Glad I renewed the BDGA's insurance policy last month!!! Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 13:51:44 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23369 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:15:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23291 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:48 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06537 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:47 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26951 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:32 GMT Received: from B62C-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62c-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.138]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id NAA23995 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:09:36 GMT From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder In-Reply-To: <199912130747.HAA00453@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:09:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ---------------------- Kevin kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 13:51:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23513 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:15:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23407 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:15:03 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18103 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:15:03 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27202 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:15:01 GMT Received: from B62C-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62c-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.138]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id NAA23968 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:09:20 GMT From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton meeting point In-Reply-To: <199912130747.HAA00453@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:09:18 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For the people comming to Southampton indoors who are intersted in consuming a festive pre-tournement beverage. I am pleased to announce that we will be gathering at Avondale house from about 8pm onwards on Friday night. Dirctions are fairly simple, Basically you want to get onto the A33 southbound, continue along over the Traffic lights next to the 'Travelodge' hotel, get into the right hand lane and take the London road exit by the law courts (you'll see lots of shops down this road). Take the first right and slap bang in front of you, will appear Avondale House, park anywhere around here will be fine. See you all there Cheers Kevin ---------------------- Kevin kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 13:52:00 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23343 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23269 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:43 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18055 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:42 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27027 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:14:41 GMT Received: from B62C-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62c-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.138]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id NAA24355 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:13:56 GMT From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Indoors In-Reply-To: <199912130747.HAA00453@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:13:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There will be a captains meeting at 9:00am sharp in the main campus sportshall. It will be brief due to the tournement being held in sportshalls that are about 10-15 minutes walk or 2-3 minutes drive away from each other. Kevin ---------------------- Kevin kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 22:31:16 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28473 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:54:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28457 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:54:24 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14048 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:54:24 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11yiqt-000KZf-0A; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:54:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:33:23 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Indoors - Newport - 5+6 Feb 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk the Newport (Wales) Indoor tournament will be held on February 5 and 6. Teams that plan/hope to attend will need to give serious consideration to accommodation - we can't provide any. Further details to follow... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 16 22:31:17 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28306 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:53:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28292 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:52:56 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (psuth@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18943 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:52:55 GMT Received: from localhost (psuth@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11615 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:52:54 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: psuth owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:52:53 +0000 (GMT) From: ed To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Southampton Indoors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Kevin wrote: >There will be a captains meeting at 9:00am sharp in the >main campus sportshall. It will be brief due to the >tournement being held in sportshalls that are about 10-15 >minutes walk or 2-3 minutes drive away from each other. to all teams going to southampton: three bears (mama bear, papa bear and baby bear) are coming to the tourney and looking for a team/teams to pick up for. if you're lacking players, we can help. if not, let us play for you anyway. please? cheers, love ed bears social sec 99/00 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 17 10:43:06 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09479 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:38:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09436 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:38:43 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16510 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:38:36 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.233]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:37:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01bf4872$4a7a3da0$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: ultimate article.. Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:37:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi all, someone posted an article recently from Time? where it mentioned all these silicon valley types playing disc and name dropped Joel Silver (he of the Lethal Weapon franchise) as being one of the founding fathers of disc. could someone repost that please, or mail me a copy of the article Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 17 11:19:48 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18175 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:17:23 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18133 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:17:15 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:20:17 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Women with Guts? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [Please pass this on to all who might be interested ...] Could GB enter a Women's Guts team into the WUGC2000? Only Brtain's women can answer this - read on if you think you have got what it takes! Please check out the excellent website devoted to Guts if you are in any doubt as to what exactly I am blathering on about! http://www.sas.it.mtu.edu/~dkwalika/frisbee/ Here is an excerpt from the latest news from the organisers of the Guts Divisions in the upcoming WUGC2000: "The 2000 world ultimate and GUTS Championship, August 5-13, 2000, Heilbronn GERMANY Guts competitions at the WUGC are to be organized in two divisions: Men's Open and Women's Open. We are actively soliciting women's guts teams, and invite your participation! Spread the word! Each national Guts team must have a minimum of seven (7) players, all of whom are citizens of the country. If, during the course of the tournament, a team is not able to field at least six (6) players for a single game, then the Tournament Rules Group may suspend that team from competition on medical grounds. An Ultimate team participating in the WUGC must have a minimum of twelve (12) 'dedicated' players to Ultimate. For an Ultimate team to field a Guts team, the seven (7) or more Ultimate players who play Guts must not be part of the minimum twelve (12) 'dedicated' players required for registration in Ultimate. Essentially, a country's team must have a minimum of (19) players to field a team for both Guts and Ultimate at the WUGC. The Guts portion of the tournament shall start on Tuesday of the WUGC week, unless the number of teams and required round-robin pool matches require additional scheduling days. This will be known well in advance of the tourney. Guts Semis and Finals should not be scheduled at the same time as Ultimate Mens Open Semis and Finals if at all possible. Preferably, Guts Semis, Finals and Consolation matches should be held immediately before their corresponding Ultimate Semi, Final or Consolation match." ==================== GB are well on the way to having a Men's Guts team for WUGC2000 - maybe we could enter a Women's team too! If any women would like to join in the Guts practice sessions or just find out more details please let me know! Cheers Sam Neilson H: 01926 864 276 E: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk [NB This is my new e-mail account - my work account is still valid: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk but I ought to start using my 'home' e-mail!] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 17 11:41:39 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22643 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:40:48 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22621 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:40:41 GMT Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (IDENT:root@nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20192 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:40:40 GMT Received: from barry ([198.80.124.168]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12157 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:37:27 GMT Message-Id: <199912171037.KAA12157@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:36:44 +0000 To: BritDisc From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Fwd: The 2000 world ultimate and GUTS Championship, August 5-13, 2000, Heilbronn GERMANY Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Message on Eurodisc (not that I'm interested but...) > To the international Guts community: > >We as a Guts community have been given a rare second chance to re-dedicate >ourselves to the WFDF organization, to the WUGC and to the sport of Guts >itself. I believe that the involvement of our international Guts bretheren >and of WFDF is crucial to the successful regrowth of our sport. In support >of this, I have volunteered to reorganize the Guts community back into a new >GPA organization, representing Guts both in the USA and worldwide, but with >a definite focus overseas. > >It is imperative that we get as many countries to participate in the Guts >portion of the 2000 WUGC as possible. If you are reading this message, and >can forward it to a disc player outside of the USA who may be interested in >participating in Guts, please do so! > >In its broadest sense, the new GPA's main mission is to revitalize the game >of Guts. The GPA's focus should be a marketing tool to evangelize our game >and be a central resource of information for the sport. In support of this, >the GPA will become a dues paying member of WFDF starting in the year 2000. >The fee for this inclusion in 2000 will come from an added fee to all >national Guts teams' registration for the WUGC. If the GPA can not become >financially viable to pay this fee in future years, then past and present >WFDF fees due will be collected in the registration for all Guts teams >participation in future WUGC as a prerequisite to our sport's (Guts) >participation. > >Now for the details of WUGC as I know it to date. The format for the Guts >portion of the WUGC that has been agreed to by WFDF includes the following: > >1) No players can be added after the final roster is submitted to WFDF >without the express permission of the the WUGC TD and the WFDF Guts >Committee Chair. > >2) For WFDF world team events involving Guts, each country may be >represented by no more than two (2) national Guts teams. Each national Guts >team must have a minimum of seven (7) players, all of whom are citizens of >the country. If, during the course of the tournament, a team is not able to >field at least six (6) players for a single game, then the Tournament Rules >Group may suspend that team from competition on medical grounds. > >3) An Ultimate team participating in the WUGC must have a minimum of twelve >(12) 'dedicated' players to Ultimate. For an Ultimate team to field a Guts >team, the seven (7) or more Ultimate players who play Guts must not be part >of the minimum twelve (12) 'dedicated' players required for registration in >Ultimate. Essentially, a country's team must have a minimum of (19) players >to field a team for both Guts and Ultimate at the WUGC. > >4) Guts competitions at the WUGC are to be organized in two divisions: Men's >Open and Women's Open. We are actively soliciting women's guts teams, and >invite your participation! Spread the word! > >5) Guts competition shall be formatted in the same manner as Ultimate >competition in respect to round-robin, quarter, semi and finals, pool >format, seeding, etc. The seeding of all teams in all divisions shall be the >responsiblity of the WFDF Guts Committee. As a review: > >i) <=6 teams: one (1) double round robin pool, Semis, Finals, 3rd/4th >Consolation >ii) 7 teams: one (1) single round robin pool, Semis, Finals, 3rd/4th >Consolation >iii) 8 teams: one (1) single round robin pool, Quarters, Semis, >Finals,3rd/4th Consolation >iv) 9-11 teams: one (1) single round robin pool, Semis, Finals,3rd/4th >Consolation >v) 12+ teams: two (2) single round robin pool, top 4 from each play in one >(1) single round Quarters robin pool, then Semis, Finals,3rd/4th Consolation >National teams from the same country should be split into separate pools, >unless a single pool format is being used. The tournament format shall >endevour to allow Guts teams to play only three (3) matches per day. > >6) All matches, including pool matches, Quarters, Semis and FInals shall be >single game up to 21 points, requiring a 2 point margin of victory. Each >Guts match will be time capped at 1 hr 30 min. At the time cap, play will >continue until the next point is scored. If the game has not reached its >end, then two points will be added to the highest score. The first team to >reach that score will win, except where a team reaches the normal target for >match end. For semis and finals, four points will be added to the highest >score vs two points, and all other time cap rules shall continue to apply. > >7) The Guts portion of the tournament shall start on Tuesday of the WUGC >week, unless the number of teams and required round-robin pool matches >require additional scheduling days. This will be known well in advance of >the tourney. > >8) Guts Semis and Finals should not be scheduled at the same time as >Ultimate Mens Open Semis and Finals if at all possible. Preferably, Guts >Semis, Finals and Consolation matches should be held immediately before >their corresponding Ultimate Semi, Final or Consolation match. > >9) The captains of two competing teams shall meet to resolve any disc >position disputes, such as low/high/vertical throws or discs trapped with >two body parts. The two captains alone shall discuss and render a consensus >decision on the call. If a consenus can not be reached by the team captains >within 3 minutes, then the disc MUST be rethrown. Foot faults shall be >called only by the offending team at the time the infraction occurs. The >opposing team's members can not call foot faults, but may request a member >of the throwing team to observe the line jointly. > >If, during the course of play, the two team captains believe they can no >longer resolve their differences through discussion, the WUGC TD and/or the >WFDF Guts Chairman shall appoint two (2) Passive Observers, to be used as >outlined below. The two competing teams requesting observers shall have NO >say in the choice of these Passive Observers. The decision on the choice of >Obersvers by the WUGC TD and/or WFDF Guts Chairman shall be final. > >During Semis and Finals, Active and Passive Observers shall be required. >These observers shall be chosed by the WFDF Guts Chairman, in consultation >with the WUGC TD and the respective teams in competition. In cases of >dispute on the choice of observers, the WUGC TD and/or WFDF Guts Chairman's >decision shall be final. > >One (1) Active Observer shall be used to call foot faults by the throwing >team at the time the infraction occurs. No concurrence by the Passive >Observers or by the competing teams is required for teh foot fault to be >called. This Active Observer shall additionally observe play as a third >Passive Observer. > >Two (2) Passive Observers shall be used to call disc position decisions. >These Passive Observers shall be called in when the two competing team >captains can not reach a decision on their own to resolve their disc >position dispute. The Active Observer and the two Passive Observers shall >gather in private, and shall discuss and render a consensus decision on the >disc position issue. If a consensus can not be reached by the Observers, the >the disc shall be re-thrown. If there is no Active Observer used, the >Passive Observers may also call foot faults, but only in a passive mode, >when disputes by the two team captains can not be resolved. > >10) Substitutions shall not be allowed in the first eleven (11) points of a >match, except for medical reasons. If a player is removed for medical >reasons, this player may not return for the entirity of that particular >match. If, because of a medical injury, a team may no longer field at least >five (5) players for play, then the Tournament Rules Group may require the >team to forfeit that match on medical grounds. >After the first eleven points, a team may substitute a player at any time, >as long as the player is not required to participate in the next point of >the match, such as requiring to throw. > >11) The ace rule shall be applied as previously known as the "Space Ace". If >a throwing team scores a point without the catching team touching the disc, >then the throwing team shall be able to choose which member of the catching >team shall return the throw. The choice of which member of the catching team >shall be limited to those one or two members who had a realistic chance to >touch the disc during its travel through the line. > >12) The area or zone used which the catching team must protect shall be >applied as previously known as the "Square Zone", such that the upper area >of a catching team member's extended hand shall define his upper limit until >this limit intersects his teammate's upper limit. > >13) Standard rules of scoring shall apply as originally outlined in the WFDF >Rules for Guts Play, that the throwing team may only be awarded a point for >a successful throw. The catching team may only be awared a point for a throw >which has not successfully intersected the catching zone. No points will be >awarded for discs successfully caught in any manner by the catching team. > >THESE RULES WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE WFDF RULES FOR GUTS PLAY, THE WUGC >TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS HANDBOOK, AND WILL BE PROVIDED AND APPROVED BY EACH >TEAM REPRESENTATIVE PRIOR TO PLAY. > >As soon as financial details for national teams entry fees and accomodation >are set by the WUGC TD, this information will be forwarded to you. > >We look forward to the best Guts tournament the world has ever seen! > >Regards, > > >Dave "Nez" Nesbitt >WFDF Guts Committee Chairman >Team USA Chairman > >3070 Tam O'Shanter Lane >Missouri City (Houston), TX 77459-3115 >Per: (281) 835-0873 >Fax: (281) 835-5723 >EFax: (815) 461-5505 (Fax as EMail) >AOL Instant Messenger Screen Name: DNez1 >Web: www.dnesbitt.com/family.html >EMail: dave@dnesbitt.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 17 15:28:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08949 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:21:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08931 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:21:06 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14517 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:21:02 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.233]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:19:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001401bf4899$c107c010$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: ultimate article Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:19:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk many thanks to all who sent me a copy of the Forbes article. Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 17 16:56:27 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04361 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:29:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04333 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:29:02 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA14212 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:29:02 GMT Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.100] by iraun1 with SMTP (PP) local; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:24:38 +0100 Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de [129.13.2.181] by irafs1 with SMTP (PP); Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:48:45 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001a01bf4872$4a7a3da0$e9f952c1@cherwell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:48:50 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Re: ultimate article.. Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > could someone repost that please, or mail me a copy of the article You can find it on the web pages of Forbes at http://www.forbes.com/forbes/99/1213/6414384a.htm There is also a copy in the EuroDisc archive at http://www.ira.uka.de/~thgries/disc/EuroDisc-Archive/1999/Dec/015.12.1999.html Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 17 19:10:55 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25143 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:40:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25111 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:40:39 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03001 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:40:34 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri1-015.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.145]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA06261 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:46:22 GMT Message-ID: <00de01bf48bf$387c8020$91a392c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Liverpool Area Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:47:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you are the poor sole who is repeatedly searching the BUF website for teams in the Liverpool area please contact John Chewins BUSJCHEW@livjm.ac.uk Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 20 10:44:29 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11114 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:33:10 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11069 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:33:06 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05634 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA13068 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199912200747.HAA13068@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 20 23:48:45 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26677 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:47:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA26671 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:47:12 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20992 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:47:11 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 120CWD-000Ebo-0B; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:47:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:45:40 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Indoors - Newport - 5+6 Feb 2000 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to the teams that have replied showing interest, and a willingness to part with undisclosed sums of money! The "further details" will be published over the Christmas weekend (I hope). In the meantime... Merry Christmas, happy new year, and hope the millennium bugs don't bite! Wayne Wayne Retter writes >the Newport (Wales) Indoor tournament will be held on February 5 and 6. > >Teams that plan/hope to attend will need to give serious consideration >to accommodation - we can't provide any. > >Further details to follow... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 0181-663-4856 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 21 12:31:43 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23081 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:29:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23070 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:29:10 GMT Received: from mailgw1.prontomail.com (mailgw1.prontomail.com [209.185.149.197]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11432 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:29:04 GMT Received: from mail45.prontomail.com (209.185.149.145) by mailgw1.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:22:20 -0800 Received: from web07 (209.185.149.207) by mail45.prontomail.com (NPlex 2.0.123); Tue, 21 Dec 1999 04:21:39 -0800 From: "Jamie Crick" Message-Id: <0EBE0945887B3D1178720005B8371189@jamiecrick.excite.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 99 12:25:55 +0000 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Got any Irish in you? CC: simoncocking@hotmail.com X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do you want some? Only kidding. The Dublin Pookas are asking for any UK based players born in Ireland, or of Irish parentage, to tell us if they would be interested in playing for Ireland in the Worlds in 2000. We are looking at both Open and Co-ed, so let us know. Cheers, Jaemus O'Crick, Pookas This E-mail brought to you by Excite's free E-mail service. Get your own E-mail address at http://www.excite.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 22 10:04:34 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29015 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:03:06 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29007 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:03:04 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:06:06 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: January GB Practice Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all players trying out for ANY of the National Ultimate Teams [PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT ON BRITDISC] The date of the January training session has been changed to the weekend: JANUARY 15/16 2000 The following actions have been proposed: 1) cancellation of the 'all teams' practice scheduled for 8/9 January 2000; 2) focus on the following weekend (15/16) for the next 'all teams' practice; 3) Kevin Lowe & Patch Winser, the organisers of the Juniors & Masters session on 15/16 January in St Albans will see if the venue can accommodate the other teams as well. They will then provide full details of the venue, date(s), times, directions, etc. If there are insufficient pitches, Aram Flores will detail the Trent Park option to be used on the same date(s) [NB This will affect (5) below!]; 4) each Divisional Manager will contact their players to explain the new plan; 5) the fitness programmes and fitness tests will be detailed at the January session: Wayne Davey hopes to post the fitness stuff to britdisc with some explanatory blurb on Wednesday night (22/12/99). AND FINALLY Thanks for your patience so far. Have a relaxing break and I'll see you in January. If you have ANY questions or comments about the GB training and selection, please contact the relevant Divisional Manager (or myself if appropriate): Open - Aram Flores aflores@lehman.com Womens - To Be Added "Tara Jewell" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Juniors - Patch Winser patch@winser.com Masters - Wayne Davey w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk wayne@ultimate.freeserve.co.uk Mixed - Jeff Jackson Jeffrey.F.E.Jackson@soc.soton.ac.uk General Manager - Sammy Neilson D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Cheers Sam. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 22 17:27:50 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23665 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:25:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23653 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:25:54 GMT Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12356 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:25:53 GMT Received: from [212.140.66.240] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 120pWL-0002uf-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:25:53 +0000 Message-ID: <000901bf4ca1$dd6829a0$f0428cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" References: Subject: Re: January GB Practice Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:26:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > The date of the January training session has been changed to the weekend: > > JANUARY 15/16 2000 Why?? Some of us have to plan ahead to do things, like go to Goteburg to play schmidoors, so why all the last minute- or at least late-notice- changes? Nancy Stebbing First Touch From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 23 22:02:21 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08939 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:00:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08934 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:00:50 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22892 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:00:50 GMT Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de by iraun1 (PP) with SMTP; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:00:32 +0100 Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de [129.13.2.181] by irafs1 with SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:00:32 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:00:31 +0100 To: BritDisc Mailing List From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Play Beach Ultimate in Gran Canaria ! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do you plan to spend a vacation in the sun when everyone else is in the cold at home ? The Canary Islands (Spain) are situated in the Atlantic Ocean off the northwest coast of Africa and consist of seven islands. All the islands are of volcanic origin and the climate is subtropical, dry and warm throughout the year. The landscape is varied, and includes imposing peaks and mountain ranges, hidden valleys, volcanic deserts, abrupt rocky cliffs, geometrically perfect craters and attractive forests. Now you can combine this with your favorite sport: The Ultimate team Pio Pio from Las Palmas of Gran Canaria invites you to their first Beach Ultimate Hat tournament: When: March 17-19, 2000 Where: Las Palmas, Playa de Las Alcaravaneras http://webold.idecnet.com/Gran_Canaria/p_lpa_i.html Costs: Option A: 15.000 pts., 90.15 Euros, 90.24 $ U.S 3 nights in a 2 star hotel, 3 breakfasts, party, players fee Option B: 5.000 pts., 30.05 Euros, 30.08 $ U.S 3 breakfasts, party, players fee Deadline: Feb 28th, 2000 For more information have a look at the web site http://club.idecnet.com/~iag/ There are also fotos there from Gran Canaria and links which will help you to find out what to do before and after the tournament. Questions may also be directed to the tournament director Ignacio "Nacho" Arcos Please pass this on to anyone possibly interested ! Hope to meet you in the Canaries ! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 24 00:01:09 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19034 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:00:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19024 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:00:08 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26042 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:00:02 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 121I9B-000DNQ-0U; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:59:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:28:08 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Fluid Druids Mailing List From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Indoors - Newport - 5+6 Feb 2000 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Newport Indoor Tournament, 5+6 February 2000 Note: Newport is on the same weekend as Womens Indoor Nationals... The entry fee for Newport 2000 is GBP 80.00 Cheques should be payable to "W. Retter" and mailed to the following address: Newport Indoor Tournament c/o Neil Travers 5 Cross Road Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 2UQ we will also require as much as possible of the following information: Team Name: Contact Name: Contact Address: Home phone: Home Email: Work Phone: Work Email: Neil will then confirm receipt of your entry. If you're particularly worried about its whereabouts, Neil can be contacted: phone: 01895-270153 email: druid@dreamer.demon.co.uk No entries will be confirmed until cheques AND contact details have been received - "the cheque's in the mail" is a nice line, but won't help! We only have room for 16 teams. 2nd teams: entries for second (or a second, but equal...) teams will not be allowed until 17 January 2000. Any such cheques/details received before this date will be held until then before being put onto the entrants list. We'll be playing all day Saturday (9am to 9pm) and most of Sunday (9am to 6pm) You will need to find your own accomodation - we can provide none; There is no planned evening event. Wayne Retter Wayne Retter writes >the Newport (Wales) Indoor tournament will be held on February 5 and 6. > >Teams that plan/hope to attend will need to give serious consideration >to accommodation - we can't provide any. > >Further details to follow... > >Wayne Retter >Fluid Druids -- Wayne Retter wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 27 07:50:54 1999 Received: by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA03858 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:47:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03852 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26405 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA28815 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <199912270747.HAA28815@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 3 19:00:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA12405 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:53:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18161 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:41:45 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14301 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29176 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200001030747.HAA29176@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 8th January 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 3 21:36:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA06087 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:29:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06082 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:29:31 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07981 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:29:31 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 125F2R-0000LQ-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:29:28 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:00:58 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: January GB Practice References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dave Neilson writes >The date of the January training session has been changed to the weekend: > > JANUARY 15/16 2000 > >3) Kevin Lowe & Patch Winser, the organisers of the Juniors & Masters >session on 15/16 January in St Albans will see if the venue can accommodate >the other teams as well. They will then provide full details of the venue, >date(s), times, directions, etc. If there are insufficient pitches, Aram >Flores will detail the Trent Park option to be used on the same date(s) [NB >This will affect (5) below!]; > >4) each Divisional Manager will contact their players to explain the new plan; Any news on the above points? I've had players (mostly students that without email until that particular weekend) asking me what is occurring... I guess it'd be useful to hear from Kev/Patch first, and then maybe Aram. Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 4 11:50:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA05939 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:45:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05915 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:45:04 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21885 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:45:03 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA28478; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA11959; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA01507; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:44:28 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:44:28 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A021002B9@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB Open Team Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:44:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To All Potential GB Open Players, Now that the holidays are behind us, the time has come to get organised for WUGC Heilbronn 2000. I have been appointed GB Open Team manager, and along with the rest of the GB management committee, will be responsible for organising the Open team this year. Our first practice of the year will be on January 15th at St Albans (details to follow) and before that I would like some information from interested players. Please provide me with the following details: Name: Nickname: Team(s): Address: Tel#: Email: Age: Played Ultimate for XX Years: Played for GB before: Y/N (Years): Will/Will not consider playing for another division: My team finished XX in the Tour: My team finished XX at Nationals: I am most comfortable on offence as a: Handler/Wing/Middle/Deep/Strictly-Defence Please also note that in addition to being something of a honour, it is a big commitment to play for the GB Open team. It will require a significant amount of time, effort and money. It would be much appreciated if these factors were taken into consideration BEFORE trying out for the team, as late season resignations are very disruptive to the team. Looking forward to a successful 2000, Aram Flores From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 4 20:04:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA28846 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:59:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28826 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:59:28 GMT Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28519 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:59:28 GMT Received: from host213-1-21-129.host.btclick.com ([213.1.21.129]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000104200147.CAFE1955.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-1-21-129.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:01:47 +0000 Received: by host213-1-21-129.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF56ED.7B9A2240@host213-1-21-129.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:54:17 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF56ED.7B9A2240@host213-1-21-129.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Indoor regionals Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:51:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id TAA28832 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Happy New Year all I'm still looking for someone in the northern region to host a regional event for indoor qualifiers. This only needs to be a single hall event on the weekend of 26/27 Feb, or 4/5 march. Ideally it would be in the Manchester / Leeds / Sheffield type area. Otherwise teams can expect to have to travel northwards to Scotland, or southwards to London to have to qualify. Your choice. Mail me ASAP if you are interested. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 5 14:14:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA04155 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:09:58 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04148 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:09:56 GMT Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25086 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:09:55 GMT Received: from [164.11.146.22] ([164.11.146.22]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id OAA10566 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:07:54 GMT From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: BritDisc Subject: UWE tournamount Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:09:58 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone please tell me who I need to contact regards BUF affiliation i.e. do we need to cough up any money for affiliation and hosting a tournament etc. Yours sincerely Phil. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 5 14:39:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA09321 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:34:40 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09302 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:34:37 GMT Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA12682 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:34:32 GMT Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Wed Jan 5 06:33:50 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:33:50 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: There are still spaces at Newport X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Newport Indoor Tournament 5+6 February 2000 If you want to come, check out the previous BritDisc emails, and/or the tournament website ( http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/newport2000/ ) and send some money and contact details to Neil. If you're interested in attending, but your team isn't coming, start tarting NOW. BTW, Newport and Womens Indoor Nationals are BOTH occuring on this w/e - 5+6 February 2000 --- Wayne Retter Fluid Druids __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 5 17:57:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA23667 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:54:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23662 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:53:58 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28995 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:53:57 GMT Received: from pii266 ([195.146.163.184]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA25374 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:59:07 GMT Message-ID: <004701bf57a6$53730de0$b8a392c3@pii266> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Disney Channel. Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:57:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Disney Channel are doing a piece on Ultimate mid January. We need the following volunteers:- 1. Junior (under 18) team or players able to attend filming at a St Johns Wood , London studio on the afternoon of 14th January. 2. Any team running a practice on the weekend before - footage needed for the main broadcast. The camera will come to you. Please contact Jonathan Hope on 01865 726995 straight away if you think you might be able to help out. BAF players in Mickey Mouse costumes need not apply.....! Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 5 18:29:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA29189 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:25:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29179 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:25:39 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23507 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:25:38 GMT Received: from pii266 (pool1-pri2-041.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.163.171]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA25911 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:30:40 GMT Message-ID: <005801bf57aa$bc0711e0$b8a392c3@pii266> From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Womens Indoor Nationals 5/6 Feb Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:27:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Venue: Cannons Health Club, University Road, Leicester Format: Depends on response, 12 or 16 teams. Accom: Floor space available, B&B's/Hotels plentiful Party: Po Na Na, Leicester (TBC) £75 cheques payable to RED ULTIMATE CLUB Leicester Ultimate Club PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ Deadline: Monday 24th January Contact Ruth on 07808 095621 ruth.taylor@bass.com Lets keep Newport an all-male event! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 6 10:03:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA03941 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:58:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03924 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:58:36 GMT Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.115] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04506 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:58:35 GMT Received: from relay.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id EAA09909; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA07067; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id JAA02251; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:57:09 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:57:09 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A021002D7@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: GB Training - Directions Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:57:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Details for GB Training session on January 15th, 2000 Start: 10am (players will be expected to be on the pitches ready to PLAY at 10:30am) Location: Wheathampstead Education Centre, near St Albans For: All divisions Finish: 3-4pm Please forward to the great un-wired............... =================================== Directions to Wheathampstead Education Centre for the Training Weekend 15/16 January Wheathampstead Education Centre is about 4 miles from the Hatfield roundabout and 3 miles North of the St Albans ring road, with easy access from A1(M), M1 and M25. The closest Thameslink station is Harpenden - a taxi from Harpenden will cost around a fiver and will take a little over ten minutes. For a 10:30 arrival, this would mean catching either the 9.31 from Kings Cross, arriving at 9.56, or the 9.46 from Kings Cross, arriving at 10.10. >From the M25 1. Leave M25 at Junction 23 signposted A1(M) 2. Go North along the A1(M) toward Hatfield 3. Go through the Hatfield Tunnel and leave the A1(M) at Junction 4, signposted Welwyn Garden City & Wheathampstead (A6129). 4. At the exit roundabout (near Tesco's), follow the signs for Welwyn Garden City & Wheathampstead. 5. After a short stretch of dual Carriageway, turn left at the roundabout signposted Wheathampstead B653. 6. Under the A1(M) to the next roundabout follow the signs for Wheathampstead (B653). 7. After 3 miles go straight across the roundabout signposted Wheathampstead. 8. In the centre of the village turn left at the mini Roundabout (The Swan is directly opposite) and go up the hill signposted St Albans. 9. At the top of the hill, take the first turning on the right. This is Butterfield Road. 10. The Education Centre is a short way along on the left - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. >From the A1(M) Leave the motorway at Junction 4 and then follow directions 4-10 as above. >From A414 Follow A414 through to the Junction with the A1(M) at Hatfield. Join the A1(M) going North and go through the Hatfield Tunnel, leave the A1(M) at Junction 4, signposted Welwyn Garden City & Wheathampstead (A6129). Then follow directions 4-10 as above. >From St Albans. 1. Leave St Albans (on the Harpenden road) via the B651 (Turning Right at the Cricketers pub), signposted to Wheathampstead. 2. Go through Sandridge and across Nomansland Common [cricket pitch on left] 3. After the Wicked Lady pub, Butterfield Road is the first turning on the left up the hill. 4. The Education Centre is a short way along on the left - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. >From Harpenden or Redbourn Leave Harpenden via the Southdown roundabout and follow signs for Wheathampstead. At the approach to Wheathampstead, after the sharp left-hand bend, turn right into Butterfield Road. The Education Centre is a short way along on the left - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. >From Luton Follow the B653 South until reaching the roundabout at Wheathampstead. Turn right at the roundabout signposted Wheathampstead & St Albans (B651). Go through the village, taking the first available right [Church Street, just before the mini-roundabout]. Go to the top of Church Street [turns into Brewhouse Hill], and take the last left before a sharp right-hand bend - Butterfield Road. The Education Centre is a short way along on the right - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. If needs be, please ring Rich on 0794 1216466 for extra directions on the day. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 7 09:30:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA22355 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:23:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22349 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:23:18 GMT Received: from doorman1.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15995 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:23:18 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman1.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:26:06 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:19:47 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'UNDERTHEINFLUENCE@EGROUPS.COM'" Subject: Anyone fancy a bit of German? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:19:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Any help appreciated. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Vetter [SMTP:mo2740@maconline.de] > Sent: 07 January 2000 01:06 > To: david.trovell@bmpoptimum.co.uk > Subject: Happy New Year > > Hello, > > my name is Susann. I'm writing from Munich, Germany. > Last year I've been playing Ultimate at the "Blindfish" Frisbee team in > Berlin. > Now I study in Munich Economics. > In February my workplacement in London will start. Still I'm looking for > a room. > The placement will start first of February 2000 - until August. > > Maybe somebody knows somebody who looks for a flatmate. > > Thanks very much for reading the mail. > > Salut Susann > > My adress: susltisch@gmx.de > Tel.: 0049-89-314 80 99 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 7 09:52:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA28277 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:48:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28269 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:48:43 GMT From: Gussvictor@aol.com Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11103 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:48:37 GMT Received: from Gussvictor@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v24.6.) id 8.45.4519b36b (5727) for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:48:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45.4519b36b.25a71051@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:48:01 EST Subject: Ultimate at Regents Park To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey, Does anyone know if Ultimate is still being played at Regent's Park on Saturday's around 2 or 2:30? Vic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 9 16:46:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA25768 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:43:00 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25762 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:42:58 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25414 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:42:57 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23549 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:42:57 GMT Received: from B62A-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62a-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.151]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id QAA01223 for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:34:55 GMT From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Results In-Reply-To: <200001030747.HAA29176@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:34:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hpoe you all had a good christmas and New year etc, sorry the results have taken so long but I've only just got back to Southampton. Anyway here we are: 16: Skunkettes 15: Skunks 3 14: Pekipsie 13: Strange blue 12: Mythago 11: BAF 2 10: Skunks 2 9: Sublime patriots - Plate 8: Look at me 7: Simpsons 6: Druids 5: BAF 4: Baboom 3: Skunks 1 2: Mr Men 1: UTI Spirit: UTI and skunkettes, the trophy eventually won by Skunkettes after a nail biting best of three paper, scissors, stone. Thanks to all the teams that attended the festive activities, see you all in the soon. Cheers Kevin Blanch ---------------------- Kevin kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 07:57:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA08150 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:47:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08135 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22393 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA09934 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200001100747.HAA09934@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 29th January 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 13:50:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA20834 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:34:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20793 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:34:27 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08278 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:34:27 GMT Received: from 97315250 (te7adfaf.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.79]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA00905 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:34:26 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:34:26 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <200001101334.NAA00905@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Happy New Year Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:03:41 +0000 >From: Marcus Vetter >To: 97315250@brookes.ac.uk >Subject: Happy New Year > >Hello, > >my name is Susann. I'm writing from Munich, Germany. >Last year I've been playing Ultimate at the "Blindfish" Frisbee team in >Berlin. >Now I study in Munich Economics. >In February my workplacement in London will start. Still I'm looking for >a room. >The placement will start first of February - until August. > >Maybe somebody knows somebody who looks for a flatmate. > >Thanks very much for reading the mail. > >Salut Susann > >My adress: susltisch@gmx.de >Tel.: 0049-89-314 80 99 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 14:59:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA20161 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:53:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09066 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:35 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16249 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:28 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:18:51 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:21:58 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E4A0@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Indoor Qualifiers Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:21:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To prevent people from constantly asking 'what's happening with the indoor qualifiers?', this is an attempt at a pre-emptive strike. There are going to be four events; Edinburgh, Towcester, S. London, and Plymouth. Teams will be free to enter any event they like, based on two factors. The events are spread over two adjacent weekends so that you can fit your chosen regional to your own calendars. Also these events have limits on the number of teams they can accommodate, so first come first served. Before you all now rush off to try and enter these events - you'll notice that I haven't provided any details yet. To ensure parity to all teams, I will be sending out a general invite to all teams on the BUF mailing list, which will tell you were to reply to. Entries not made through this method will be ignored. If you contact address is not upto date on the BUF mailing list (accessible via the BUF website) then ensure it is correct very soon. Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 15:00:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA20528 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:55:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18425 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:47:19 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f249.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.249]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05031 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:58:05 GMT Received: (qmail 22504 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jan 2000 09:57:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000110095733.22503.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.197.56 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:57:33 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.197.56] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:57:33 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please note that the Women's Indoor National are February 5th and 6th. Vanessa > British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary > --------------------------------------------- > >The events list can also be found at >http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ > > ---------- >Saturday 29th January 2000 > > Women's Indoor Nationals - TBC (2 days) > @ TBA > [Indoor Ultimate] > > Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) > Address 15 Courtlands > 17 Court Downs Road > Beckenham > Kent > BR3 6LN > Email nessa_white@hotmail.com > Phone 020 8663 4856 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary > http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 16:29:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA22368 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:28:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22345 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:28:12 GMT Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA02203 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:28:10 GMT Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Mon Jan 10 08:27:32 2000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "Dave Neilson" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:27:32 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk missing from Diary: Newport Indoor Tournament (2 days) 5 + 6 February 2000 Newport Centre, Newport, S Wales. Entry Fee GBP 80.00 see website for details, http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/newport2000/ a few spaces remain! --- Wayne Retter Fluid Druids __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 16:42:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA26494 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:40:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26475 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:40:39 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04253 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:40:38 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA23758 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:40:38 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:40:38 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200001101640.QAA23758@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 15th January 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Wheathampstead Education Centre, near St Albans [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] For ALL divisions: 10am start - finished by 4pm. Contact Patch Winser#Kevin Lowe Email patch@winser.com mekevlowe@x-stream.co.uk Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf (2 days) @ Elthorne Park, London TBC [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 0181 568 5883 Saturday 5th February 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cannons Health Club, Leicester [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date. Contact Ruth Taylor Email Ruth.Taylor@bass.com Phone 07808 095621 (mobile) Newport Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Newport, Wales [Indoor Ultimate] Max 16 teams. Entry fee: GBP 80.00 payable to Wayne Retter, sent to Neil Travers. NB Second team entries will not be accepted until Jan 17. Contact Neil Travers Address 5 Cross Road Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 2UQ Email druid@dreamer.demon.co.uk Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Doubles Matchplay (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Frostbreaker (Handicap) TBC (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 01203 523523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open TBC (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster TBC [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh TBC [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland TBC [Golf] Contact Gary Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 14th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 0181 767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 BDGA Golf - Singles Matchplay (2 days) @ TBC [Golf] Contact TBA ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 10 23:57:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA22161 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:55:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22144 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:55:01 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00855 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:55:00 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 127oeE-000N59-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:54:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:24:40 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Goaltimate References: <856kh9$s0$1@nnrp1.deja.com> In-Reply-To: <856kh9$s0$1@nnrp1.deja.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! Wayne rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner writes >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: Goaltimate >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the Palm >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February 12th & >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will also >have up to date coverage on our web site (http://www.goaltimate.com) >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > West Palm Beach, Florida > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson > >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie Diehl - Captain >Deana McMurrer Deanna King >Dara Bailey Susan Bridges >Sarah Welsh Clea Lauriault >Linda Scheffler Marta Puyana >Jody Dozono Tanya Lopez >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa Warren > >Seattle - Riot Santa Barbara - Condors >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel Noble - Captain >Abbi Nilssen Margaret Thomas >Vida Towne Danielle Zacherl >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van Wie >Michelle Burley Jamie Peters >Kathy Porter Carrie Berlogar >Deb Cussen Deganit Shechter > >Boston - Godiva Atlanta - Sol >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer Christianson - Captain >Christine Dunlap Angela Lin >Vicky Chow Lisa Kotora >Ellen Taggart Eileen Murray >Christine Parisi Mary O'Neill >Gwyn Tracy Susan Lansdell >Molly Goodwin Michelle Chabot > > > MEN'S DIVISION > >Wellesley - Founders Santa Barbara - Condors >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay Higgins - Captain >Scott Hollinger Andy Crews >Gary Lippman Greg Husak >Stu Downs James Studarus >Jordan Haskell Rick Martz >Jeremy Seeger Jason Seidler >Jim Parinella Mario Viani > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - Australian Rebellion >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain Piers Truter - Captain >Josh Quaas Iain Ferguson >Alex Nord Angus Keenan >Jon Remucal Duncan Keenan >Eric Carr Colin Wagstaff >Sam O'Brien Will Mitchell >Mike Lawyer Steve Antonopolis > >Madison - G-Men New York - name TBA >Simon MacNair - Captain Marty Brutvan - Captain >Todd Eisenberg Dave Babkow >David Markwardt Joe McHugh >Brendan Sylvander Eric Olson >Charlie Reznikoff Arnold Sanchez >Will Henry Walter VanderSchraaf >Jeff Hirsch > >Boston - 21st Century DoG Houston - Hammers >Nathan Wicks - Captain Scott Buchanan - Captain >Tom Matthews John Gryzwinski >Lyn Debevoise Sean McCall >Fortunat Mueller Jason Calvi >Douglas Moore Steve Quach >Brian Cameros Sandy Ganzell >Justin Safdie Damian Scott > >Chicago - name TBA San Diego - Ground Zero >Michael Glass - Captain Mike Boisvert - Captain >Rich Hollingsworth Steve Ferguson >Eric Zaslow Jim Ingabritsen >Steve Whitehead Mike Blackard >John Conway Greg Pinz >Joe Cesario Cliff Smith >Irv Gilner John Cione > >Seattle - Flatball Denver - Double Diamonds >Jonathan Gewirtz - Captain Tim Wachuta - Captain >Greg Shiring Randy Ricks >Chris Page Bob Pease >Barney Ahouse Buzz Ellsworth >Rick Melner Jim Glynn >Darryl Nounnan Curtis Manning >Chris Hayden David Remucal > >Atlanta - Bounty Vancouver - Evil Genius >David Goode - Captain Kirk Savage - Captain >Brian Cornelison Jeff Cruickshank >Nathan Wright Andrew Lugsdin >Greg Allpow Evan Wood >Adam Smeltzer Mike Grant >Ricky McClellen Khai Foo >John Hammond Mark Seraglia > >San Francisco - Bigack Miami - Team Florida >Scott Lipscomb - Captain Kevin Bogusky >Brian Morris Steve Fowler >Idris Nolan Butch Brown >Seth Blacher Kristien Shallan >Edward Coyne Milan Hooper >Jeff Williams Steven Johnson >Dennis Warsen Dan DePaul > > OFFICIALS > >Donny Wallace Jim Herrick >Tom Kennedy Steve Mooney >Archie Neilson Al Peterson >Dee Carey Dave Danks >Dean Seville Trey Paulison >Mark Lafoon David Becker >Brett Evans Peter Schmalenberger >David Ray Bob Pallares >Dan Rodick (tentative) plus 7 from Florida area > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 09:03:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA27999 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:02:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27994 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:01:59 GMT Received: from pdbs0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk (pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk [212.139.128.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA18010 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:01:59 GMT Received: (qmail 5688 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2000 09:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO KEVIN) (212.139.147.83) by pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Jan 2000 09:01:47 -0000 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BF5C12.7CEF7DA0@KEVIN>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:01:46 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF5C12.7CEF7DA0@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Juniors weekend Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:43:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA27995 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick reminder that we are hoping to get as many juniors as possible to this weekend's practice in St. Albans. The practice is open to any junior, regardless of standard. We will be playing / training both inside and out, so please bring suitable clothing / footwear. If you know of any juniors that may be interested, then please bring them along or get them to get in touch with us. Free accommodation for the Saturday is available. Practice on the Saturday begins at 10:30, the same as the other GB squads. Kevin PS New job - new email address. Kev@cheerful.com always works (forwards mail to my other accounts), and Kev@videosystem.co.uk is the new work email. 07974-417626 --- Directions to Wheathampstead Education Centre for the Training Weekend 15/16 January Wheathampstead Education Centre is about 4 miles from the Hatfield roundabout and 3 miles North of the St Albans ring road, with easy access from A1(M), M1 and M25. The closest Thameslink station is Harpenden - a taxi from Harpenden will cost around a fiver and will take a little over ten minutes. For a 10:30 arrival, this would mean catching either the 9.31 from Kings Cross, arriving at 9.56, or the 9.46 from Kings Cross, arriving at 10.10. >From the M25 1. Leave M25 at Junction 23 signposted A1(M) 2. Go North along the A1(M) toward Hatfield 3. Go through the Hatfield Tunnel and leave the A1(M) at Junction 4, signposted Welwyn Garden City & Wheathampstead (A6129). 4. At the exit roundabout (near Tesco's), follow the signs for Welwyn Garden City & Wheathampstead. 5. After a short stretch of dual Carriageway, turn left at the roundabout signposted Wheathampstead B653. 6. Under the A1(M) to the next roundabout follow the signs for Wheathampstead (B653). 7. After 3 miles go straight across the roundabout signposted Wheathampstead. 8. In the centre of the village turn left at the mini Roundabout (The Swan is directly opposite) and go up the hill signposted St Albans. 9. At the top of the hill, take the first turning on the right. This is Butterfield Road. 10. The Education Centre is a short way along on the left - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. >From the A1(M) Leave the motorway at Junction 4 and then follow directions 4-10 as above. >From A414 Follow A414 through to the Junction with the A1(M) at Hatfield. Join the A1(M) going North and go through the Hatfield Tunnel. Then follow directions 1-10 as above. >From St Albans. 1. Leave St Albans (on the Harpenden road) via the B651 (Turning Right at the Cricketers pub), signposted to Wheathampstead. 2. Go through Sandridge and across Nomansland Common [cricket pitch on left] 3. After the Wicked Lady pub, Butterfield Road is the first turning on the left up the hill. 4. The Education Centre is a short way along on the left - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. >From Harpenden or Redbourn Leave Harpenden via the Southdown roundabout and follow signs for Wheathampstead. At the approach to Wheathampstead, after the sharp left-hand bend, turn right into Butterfield Road. The Education Centre is a short way along on the left - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. >From Luton Follow the B653 South until reaching the roundabout at Wheathampstead. Turn right at the roundabout signposted Wheathampstead & St Albans (B651). Go through the village, taking the first available right [Church Street, just before the mini roundabout]. Go to the top of Church Street [turns into Brewhouse Hill], and take the last left before a sharp right-hand bend - Butterfield Road. The Education Centre is a short way along on the right - you can't miss it - looks like a secondary school. If needs be, please ring Rich on 0794 1216466 for extra directions on the day. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 10:36:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA25176 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:35:02 GMT Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25152 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:34:58 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11200 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:34:57 GMT Received: from m62-mp2-cvx1b.ren.ntl.com ([62.252.129.126] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 127yXE-0004rl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:28:21 +0000 Message-ID: <001801bf43c3$60d7c3a0$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BritDisc" References: <856kh9$s0$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Goaltimate Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:29:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with this but I have a question about Goaltimate. I understand that it is very similar to ultimate and the list of teams (and some individuals) below even make it look like a list for an ultimate tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are all ultimate teams as far as I know). And I have always been under the impresion that goaltimate was not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads to my question Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why are its tournaments being shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels in the world)? I hope someone has an answer for me, Thanks, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Retter To: BritDisc Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM Subject: Goaltimate > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! > > It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! > > Wayne > > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner writes > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: Goaltimate > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the Palm > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February 12th & > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will also > >have up to date coverage on our web site (http://www.goaltimate.com) > >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. > > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament > > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > > > West Palm Beach, Florida > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > > > >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain > >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott > >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas > >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson > > > >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie Diehl - Captain > >Deana McMurrer Deanna King > >Dara Bailey Susan Bridges > >Sarah Welsh Clea Lauriault > >Linda Scheffler Marta Puyana > >Jody Dozono Tanya Lopez > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa Warren > > > >Seattle - Riot Santa Barbara - Condors > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel Noble - Captain > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret Thomas > >Vida Towne Danielle Zacherl > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van Wie > >Michelle Burley Jamie Peters > >Kathy Porter Carrie Berlogar > >Deb Cussen Deganit Shechter > > > >Boston - Godiva Atlanta - Sol > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer Christianson - Captain > >Christine Dunlap Angela Lin > >Vicky Chow Lisa Kotora > >Ellen Taggart Eileen Murray > >Christine Parisi Mary O'Neill > >Gwyn Tracy Susan Lansdell > >Molly Goodwin Michelle Chabot > > > > > > MEN'S DIVISION > > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa Barbara - Condors > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay Higgins - Captain > >Scott Hollinger Andy Crews > >Gary Lippman Greg Husak > >Stu Downs James Studarus > >Jordan Haskell Rick Martz > >Jeremy Seeger Jason Seidler > >Jim Parinella Mario Viani > > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - Australian Rebellion > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain Piers Truter - Captain > >Josh Quaas Iain Ferguson > >Alex Nord Angus Keenan > >Jon Remucal Duncan Keenan > >Eric Carr Colin Wagstaff > >Sam O'Brien Will Mitchell > >Mike Lawyer Steve Antonopolis > > > >Madison - G-Men New York - name TBA > >Simon MacNair - Captain Marty Brutvan - Captain > >Todd Eisenberg Dave Babkow > >David Markwardt Joe McHugh > >Brendan Sylvander Eric Olson > >Charlie Reznikoff Arnold Sanchez > >Will Henry Walter VanderSchraaf > >Jeff Hirsch > > > >Boston - 21st Century DoG Houston - Hammers > >Nathan Wicks - Captain Scott Buchanan - Captain > >Tom Matthews John Gryzwinski > >Lyn Debevoise Sean McCall > >Fortunat Mueller Jason Calvi > >Douglas Moore Steve Quach > >Brian Cameros Sandy Ganzell > >Justin Safdie Damian Scott > > > >Chicago - name TBA San Diego - Ground Zero > >Michael Glass - Captain Mike Boisvert - Captain > >Rich Hollingsworth Steve Ferguson > >Eric Zaslow Jim Ingabritsen > >Steve Whitehead Mike Blackard > >John Conway Greg Pinz > >Joe Cesario Cliff Smith > >Irv Gilner John Cione > > > >Seattle - Flatball Denver - Double Diamonds > >Jonathan Gewirtz - Captain Tim Wachuta - Captain > >Greg Shiring Randy Ricks > >Chris Page Bob Pease > >Barney Ahouse Buzz Ellsworth > >Rick Melner Jim Glynn > >Darryl Nounnan Curtis Manning > >Chris Hayden David Remucal > > > >Atlanta - Bounty Vancouver - Evil Genius > >David Goode - Captain Kirk Savage - Captain > >Brian Cornelison Jeff Cruickshank > >Nathan Wright Andrew Lugsdin > >Greg Allpow Evan Wood > >Adam Smeltzer Mike Grant > >Ricky McClellen Khai Foo > >John Hammond Mark Seraglia > > > >San Francisco - Bigack Miami - Team Florida > >Scott Lipscomb - Captain Kevin Bogusky > >Brian Morris Steve Fowler > >Idris Nolan Butch Brown > >Seth Blacher Kristien Shallan > >Edward Coyne Milan Hooper > >Jeff Williams Steven Johnson > >Dennis Warsen Dan DePaul > > > > OFFICIALS > > > >Donny Wallace Jim Herrick > >Tom Kennedy Steve Mooney > >Archie Neilson Al Peterson > >Dee Carey Dave Danks > >Dean Seville Trey Paulison > >Mark Lafoon David Becker > >Brett Evans Peter Schmalenberger > >David Ray Bob Pallares > >Dan Rodick (tentative) plus 7 from Florida area > > > > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > >Before you buy. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > mobile: 07970-903420 > at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 10:46:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA29084 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:44:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29053 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:44:38 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01523 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:44:32 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA02426; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id FAA24076; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id KAA23869; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:43:55 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:43:55 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A02100308@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:43:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Very simple really......They pay people! I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for all competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in prize money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the players invited are well known Ultimate players. > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Re: Goaltimate > > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with this but I have a question > about Goaltimate. > > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate and the list of teams > (and > some individuals) below even make it look like a list for an ultimate > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are all ultimate teams as > far > as I know). And I have always been under the impresion that goaltimate was > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads to my question > > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why are its tournaments being > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels in the world)? > > I hope someone has an answer for me, > > Thanks, > > Matt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wayne Retter > To: BritDisc > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM > Subject: Goaltimate > > > > > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! > > > > It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! > > > > Wayne > > > > > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner writes > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: Goaltimate > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the Palm > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February 12th & > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will also > > >have up to date coverage on our web site (http://www.goaltimate.com) > > >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. > > > > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > > > > > West Palm Beach, Florida > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > > > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > > > > > >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott > > >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas > > >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson > > > > > >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie Diehl - Captain > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna King > > >Dara Bailey Susan Bridges > > >Sarah Welsh Clea Lauriault > > >Linda Scheffler Marta Puyana > > >Jody Dozono Tanya Lopez > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa Warren > > > > > >Seattle - Riot Santa Barbara - Condors > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel Noble - Captain > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret Thomas > > >Vida Towne Danielle Zacherl > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van Wie > > >Michelle Burley Jamie Peters > > >Kathy Porter Carrie Berlogar > > >Deb Cussen Deganit Shechter > > > > > >Boston - Godiva Atlanta - Sol > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer Christianson - Captain > > >Christine Dunlap Angela Lin > > >Vicky Chow Lisa Kotora > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen Murray > > >Christine Parisi Mary O'Neill > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan Lansdell > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle Chabot > > > > > > > > > MEN'S DIVISION > > > > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa Barbara - Condors > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay Higgins - Captain > > >Scott Hollinger Andy Crews > > >Gary Lippman Greg Husak > > >Stu Downs James Studarus > > >Jordan Haskell Rick Martz > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason Seidler > > >Jim Parinella Mario Viani > > > > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - Australian Rebellion > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain Piers Truter - Captain > > >Josh Quaas Iain Ferguson > > >Alex Nord Angus Keenan > > >Jon Remucal Duncan Keenan > > >Eric Carr Colin Wagstaff > > >Sam O'Brien Will Mitchell > > >Mike Lawyer Steve Antonopolis > > > > > >Madison - G-Men New York - name TBA > > >Simon MacNair - Captain Marty Brutvan - Captain > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave Babkow > > >David Markwardt Joe McHugh > > >Brendan Sylvander Eric Olson > > >Charlie Reznikoff Arnold Sanchez > > >Will Henry Walter VanderSchraaf > > >Jeff Hirsch > > > > > >Boston - 21st Century DoG Houston - Hammers > > >Nathan Wicks - Captain Scott Buchanan - Captain > > >Tom Matthews John Gryzwinski > > >Lyn Debevoise Sean McCall > > >Fortunat Mueller Jason Calvi > > >Douglas Moore Steve Quach > > >Brian Cameros Sandy Ganzell > > >Justin Safdie Damian Scott > > > > > >Chicago - name TBA San Diego - Ground Zero > > >Michael Glass - Captain Mike Boisvert - Captain > > >Rich Hollingsworth Steve Ferguson > > >Eric Zaslow Jim Ingabritsen > > >Steve Whitehead Mike Blackard > > >John Conway Greg Pinz > > >Joe Cesario Cliff Smith > > >Irv Gilner John Cione > > > > > >Seattle - Flatball Denver - Double Diamonds > > >Jonathan Gewirtz - Captain Tim Wachuta - Captain > > >Greg Shiring Randy Ricks > > >Chris Page Bob Pease > > >Barney Ahouse Buzz Ellsworth > > >Rick Melner Jim Glynn > > >Darryl Nounnan Curtis Manning > > >Chris Hayden David Remucal > > > > > >Atlanta - Bounty Vancouver - Evil Genius > > >David Goode - Captain Kirk Savage - Captain > > >Brian Cornelison Jeff Cruickshank > > >Nathan Wright Andrew Lugsdin > > >Greg Allpow Evan Wood > > >Adam Smeltzer Mike Grant > > >Ricky McClellen Khai Foo > > >John Hammond Mark Seraglia > > > > > >San Francisco - Bigack Miami - Team Florida > > >Scott Lipscomb - Captain Kevin Bogusky > > >Brian Morris Steve Fowler > > >Idris Nolan Butch Brown > > >Seth Blacher Kristien Shallan > > >Edward Coyne Milan Hooper > > >Jeff Williams Steven Johnson > > >Dennis Warsen Dan DePaul > > > > > > OFFICIALS > > > > > >Donny Wallace Jim Herrick > > >Tom Kennedy Steve Mooney > > >Archie Neilson Al Peterson > > >Dee Carey Dave Danks > > >Dean Seville Trey Paulison > > >Mark Lafoon David Becker > > >Brett Evans Peter Schmalenberger > > >David Ray Bob Pallares > > >Dan Rodick (tentative) plus 7 from Florida area > > > > > > > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > >Before you buy. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wayne Retter > > at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 10:57:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA03375 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:55:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03334 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:55:01 GMT Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03087 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:55:00 GMT Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with SMTP id <115202>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:55:25 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id FAA12247; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:54:25 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA14660; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:54:46 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:56:45 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C04@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Goaltimate MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 05:55:25 -0500 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 Matt, have you got a Y2K problem with your computer, or is there some other reason for being a month behind? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 11:03:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA05679 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:00:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05594 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:00:16 GMT Received: from nuclear.bomb.co.uk (IDENT:root@nuclear.bomb.co.uk [198.80.124.122]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03971 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:00:15 GMT Received: from barry ([198.80.124.168]) by nuclear.bomb.co.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA24554 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:00:09 GMT Message-Id: <200001111100.LAA24554@nuclear.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:38:38 +0000 To: From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: RE: Goaltimate In-Reply-To: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A02100308@exlon05.lonserv1. lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ahh yes - and all the money came from the sale ESPN? Someone told me the last one didn't work out so well - but they are doing it again? And there is another question. Who sold it and how? Why can't Ultimate (WUCC, WUGC, UPA nats - whatever) be sold in the same way? I realise that there have been debates about this on rsd - can anyone fill us in? Barry At 10:43 11/01/00 +0000, you wrote: >Very simple really......They pay people! > >I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for all >competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in prize >money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the >players invited are well known Ultimate players. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 11:09:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA09187 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:08:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08964 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:07:36 GMT Received: from web1406.mail.yahoo.com (web1406.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.170]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05528 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:07:35 GMT Received: (qmail 2886 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2000 11:07:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000111110733.2885.qmail@web1406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.17.105.104] by web1406.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:07:33 PST Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:07:33 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: RE: Goaltimate To: BritDisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Britdisc, Just in case you all thought i was a "Well known Ulitmate player"....... The Hawaii tournament "Kaimana Klassic" is the following week-end and i made the Australian team for that. The organisers of the Goaltimate event offered to pay 90% of seven players airfares from Hawaii to Miami. Not really an offer to be refused. Couple that with free accomodation and the only non north american team/country to be invited it was an opportunity to good to be missed. The chance to play what could be a potential competitor to our loved sport of Ultimate and a chance to win some of the US$30K prize money (I believe they is some cash for last place). If you want to know more look at www.goaltimate.com where there are some basic and more in depth rules. I guess Wayne has already made it to the site.......surprise surprise!! Isn't the sun just great! Colin. --- "Flores, Aram" wrote: > Very simple really......They pay people! > > I know for the San Diego tournament last year the > organisers paid for all > competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, > and $20,000 in prize > money. They then sold the footage of the tournament > to ESPN. All the > players invited are well known Ultimate players. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 > > To: BritDisc > > Subject: Re: Goaltimate > > > > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with > this but I have a question > > about Goaltimate. > > > > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate > and the list of teams > > (and > > some individuals) below even make it look like a > list for an ultimate > > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are > all ultimate teams as > > far > > as I know). And I have always been under the > impresion that goaltimate was > > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads > to my question > > > > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why > are its tournaments being > > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels > in the world)? > > > > I hope someone has an answer for me, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matt > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wayne Retter > > > To: BritDisc > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM > > Subject: Goaltimate > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has > joined the Feral > > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! > > > > > > It's amazing what some people will for the > chance to be on TV! > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner > writes > > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming > Phase II: Goaltimate > > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will > take place at the Palm > > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, > Florida, February 12th & > > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the > tournament. We will also > > > >have up to date coverage on our web site > (http://www.goaltimate.com) > > > >over the tournament weekend. More information > to come. > > > > > > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational > Tournament > > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > > > > > > > West Palm Beach, Florida > > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > > > > > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Fury San > Diego - Arch Rivals > > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar > Stuht - Captain > > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende > Pinz > > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy > Duggan > > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer > Scott > > > >Maya Conrad Beth > Thomas > > > >Amy Jean Little > Laura Ingebritsen > > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara > Ferguson > > > > > > > >Portland - Dawls > Gainesville - Spinsters > > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie > Diehl - Captain > > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna > King > > > >Dara Bailey Susan > Bridges > > > >Sarah Welsh Clea > Lauriault > > > >Linda Scheffler > Marta Puyana > > > >Jody Dozono Tanya > Lopez > > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa > Warren > > > > > > > >Seattle - Riot Santa > Barbara - Condors > > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel > Noble - Captain > > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret > Thomas > > > >Vida Towne Danielle > Zacherl > > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van > Wie > > > >Michelle Burley > Jamie Peters > > > >Kathy Porter Carrie > Berlogar > > > >Deb Cussen Deganit > Shechter > > > > > > > >Boston - Godiva > Atlanta - Sol > > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer > Christianson - Captain > > > >Christine Dunlap Angela > Lin > > > >Vicky Chow Lisa > Kotora > > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen > Murray > > > >Christine Parisi Mary > O'Neill > > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan > Lansdell > > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle > Chabot > > > > > > > > > > > > MEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa > Barbara - Condors > > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay > Higgins - Captain > > > >Scott Hollinger > Andy Crews > > > >Gary Lippman Greg > Husak > > > >Stu Downs James > Studarus > > > >Jordan Haskell Rick > Martz > > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason > Seidler > > > >Jim Parinella Mario > Viani > > > > > > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - > Australian Rebellion > > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain > Piers Truter - Captain > > > >Josh Quaas Iain > Ferguson > > > >Alex Nord Angus > Keenan > > > >Jon Remucal Duncan > Keenan > > > >Eric Carr Colin > Wagstaff > > > >Sam O'Brien Will > Mitchell > > > >Mike Lawyer Steve > Antonopolis > > > > > > > >Madison - G-Men > New York - name TBA > > > >Simon MacNair - Captain > Marty Brutvan - Captain > > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave > Babkow > > > >David Markwardt Joe > McHugh > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 11:21:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13867 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:34 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13845 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:31 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15328 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:29 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:19:17 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:39 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:15:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More more details from Aram. > -----Original Message----- > From: Flores, Aram [SMTP:aflores@lehman.com] > Sent: 11 January 2000 11:12 > To: 'David Trovell' > Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > I just know some details because when I went to my brother wedding last > summer half the guests had just come from the first tourney. > > Apparently some guy (a promoter) put up his own money to organise the > tourney. The logic behind Goaltimate goes something like this: > > 1. 5 a side - with two subs taken without stoppage (like ice hockey) - 5 > players are cheaper than 7. > 2. 5 players assures more "stars" > 3. Goaltimate is more TV friendly as the action is concentrated near the > goal (easier to film). > 4. The UPA, being committee run, is crap at selling its video's > 5. This promoter will end up 'owning' the sport - something like that rich > bugger who owns F1 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Trovell [SMTP:david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk] > > Sent: 11 January 2000 11:00 > > To: 'Flores, Aram' > > Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > > > Aram, > > Do you know why ESPN bought it? Is it easier to film effectively or > better > > as a spectator sport? Maybe they just had a good saleman or a contact. > > I'm amazed they can get this sport up and running and on TV so quickly > > when > > Ultimate has always struggled. > > You are now the offical expert on Goaltimate!! > > Dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Flores, Aram [SMTP:aflores@lehman.com] > > > Sent: 11 January 2000 10:44 > > > To: BritDisc > > > Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > > > > > Very simple really......They pay people! > > > > > > I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for > > all > > > competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in > > prize > > > money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the > > > players invited are well known Ultimate players. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > > > > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 > > > > To: BritDisc > > > > Subject: Re: Goaltimate > > > > > > > > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with this but I have a > > > question > > > > about Goaltimate. > > > > > > > > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate and the list of > teams > > > > (and > > > > some individuals) below even make it look like a list for an > ultimate > > > > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are all ultimate teams > > as > > > > far > > > > as I know). And I have always been under the impresion that > goaltimate > > > was > > > > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads to my question > > > > > > > > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why are its tournaments > > > being > > > > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels in the world)? > > > > > > > > I hope someone has an answer for me, > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Wayne Retter > > > > To: BritDisc > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM > > > > Subject: Goaltimate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral > > > > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! > > > > > > > > > > It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! > > > > > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner writes > > > > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: > Goaltimate > > > > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the > > Palm > > > > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February > 12th > > & > > > > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will > > > also > > > > > >have up to date coverage on our web site > > (http://www.goaltimate.com) > > > > > >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. > > > > > > > > > > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament > > > > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > > > > > > > > > > > West Palm Beach, Florida > > > > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > > > > > > > > > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals > > > > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain > > > > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz > > > > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan > > > > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott > > > > > >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas > > > > > >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen > > > > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson > > > > > > > > > > > >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters > > > > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie Diehl - Captain > > > > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna King > > > > > >Dara Bailey Susan Bridges > > > > > >Sarah Welsh Clea Lauriault > > > > > >Linda Scheffler Marta Puyana > > > > > >Jody Dozono Tanya Lopez > > > > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa Warren > > > > > > > > > > > >Seattle - Riot Santa Barbara - Condors > > > > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel Noble - Captain > > > > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret Thomas > > > > > >Vida Towne Danielle Zacherl > > > > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van Wie > > > > > >Michelle Burley Jamie Peters > > > > > >Kathy Porter Carrie Berlogar > > > > > >Deb Cussen Deganit Shechter > > > > > > > > > > > >Boston - Godiva Atlanta - Sol > > > > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer Christianson - > > > Captain > > > > > >Christine Dunlap Angela Lin > > > > > >Vicky Chow Lisa Kotora > > > > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen Murray > > > > > >Christine Parisi Mary O'Neill > > > > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan Lansdell > > > > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle Chabot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > > > > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa Barbara - Condors > > > > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay Higgins - Captain > > > > > >Scott Hollinger Andy Crews > > > > > >Gary Lippman Greg Husak > > > > > >Stu Downs James Studarus > > > > > >Jordan Haskell Rick Martz > > > > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason Seidler > > > > > >Jim Parinella Mario Viani > > > > > > > > > > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - Australian > > Rebellion > > > > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain Piers Truter - > > > Captain > > > > > >Josh Quaas Iain Ferguson > > > > > >Alex Nord Angus Keenan > > > > > >Jon Remucal Duncan Keenan > > > > > >Eric Carr Colin Wagstaff > > > > > >Sam O'Brien Will Mitchell > > > > > >Mike Lawyer Steve Antonopolis > > > > > > > > > > > >Madison - G-Men New York - name > TBA > > > > > >Simon MacNair - Captain Marty Brutvan - > > > Captain > > > > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave Babkow > > > > > >David Markwardt Joe McHugh > > > > > >Brendan Sylvander Eric Olson > > > > > >Charlie Reznikoff Arnold Sanchez > > > > > >Will Henry Walter VanderSchraaf > > > > > >Jeff Hirsch > > > > > > > > > > > >Boston - 21st Century DoG Houston - Hammers > > > > > >Nathan Wicks - Captain Scott Buchanan - Captain > > > > > >Tom Matthews John Gryzwinski > > > > > >Lyn Debevoise Sean McCall > > > > > >Fortunat Mueller Jason Calvi > > > > > >Douglas Moore Steve Quach > > > > > >Brian Cameros Sandy Ganzell > > > > > >Justin Safdie Damian Scott > > > > > > > > > > > >Chicago - name TBA San Diego - Ground Zero > > > > > >Michael Glass - Captain Mike Boisvert - > > > Captain > > > > > >Rich Hollingsworth Steve Ferguson > > > > > >Eric Zaslow Jim Ingabritsen > > > > > >Steve Whitehead Mike Blackard > > > > > >John Conway Greg Pinz > > > > > >Joe Cesario Cliff Smith > > > > > >Irv Gilner John Cione > > > > > > > > > > > >Seattle - Flatball Denver - Double Diamonds > > > > > >Jonathan Gewirtz - Captain Tim Wachuta - Captain > > > > > >Greg Shiring Randy Ricks > > > > > >Chris Page Bob Pease > > > > > >Barney Ahouse Buzz Ellsworth > > > > > >Rick Melner Jim Glynn > > > > > >Darryl Nounnan Curtis Manning > > > > > >Chris Hayden David Remucal > > > > > > > > > > > >Atlanta - Bounty Vancouver - Evil Genius > > > > > >David Goode - Captain Kirk Savage - Captain > > > > > >Brian Cornelison Jeff Cruickshank > > > > > >Nathan Wright Andrew Lugsdin > > > > > >Greg Allpow Evan Wood > > > > > >Adam Smeltzer Mike Grant > > > > > >Ricky McClellen Khai Foo > > > > > >John Hammond Mark Seraglia > > > > > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Bigack Miami - Team Florida > > > > > >Scott Lipscomb - Captain Kevin Bogusky > > > > > >Brian Morris Steve Fowler > > > > > >Idris Nolan Butch Brown > > > > > >Seth Blacher Kristien Shallan > > > > > >Edward Coyne Milan Hooper > > > > > >Jeff Williams Steven Johnson > > > > > >Dennis Warsen Dan DePaul > > > > > > > > > > > > OFFICIALS > > > > > > > > > > > >Donny Wallace Jim Herrick > > > > > >Tom Kennedy Steve Mooney > > > > > >Archie Neilson Al Peterson > > > > > >Dee Carey Dave Danks > > > > > >Dean Seville Trey Paulison > > > > > >Mark Lafoon David Becker > > > > > >Brett Evans Peter Schmalenberger > > > > > >David Ray Bob Pallares > > > > > >Dan Rodick (tentative) plus 7 from Florida area > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > > >Before you buy. > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Wayne Retter > > > > > at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > > > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > > > > at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > > are addressed. 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 15:04:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA25668 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:00:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25638 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:00:28 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28511 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:00:28 GMT Received: from p87-harc1-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.244.87] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1282gI-0002Iu-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:53:59 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01bf5c44$979c5600$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BritDisc" References: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A02100308@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> Subject: Re: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:59:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Who puts up the money? Who are the organisers? and why hasn't ultimate tried to do the same thing? I'm sure the UPA could manage such a thing, they have already gone close with the Jockey Tournaments and adverts. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Flores, Aram To: BritDisc Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 10:43 AM Subject: RE: Goaltimate > Very simple really......They pay people! > > I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for all > competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in prize > money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the > players invited are well known Ultimate players. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 > > To: BritDisc > > Subject: Re: Goaltimate > > > > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with this but I have a question > > about Goaltimate. > > > > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate and the list of teams > > (and > > some individuals) below even make it look like a list for an ultimate > > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are all ultimate teams as > > far > > as I know). And I have always been under the impresion that goaltimate was > > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads to my question > > > > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why are its tournaments being > > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels in the world)? > > > > I hope someone has an answer for me, > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matt > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Wayne Retter > > To: BritDisc > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM > > Subject: Goaltimate > > > > > > > > > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral > > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! > > > > > > It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner writes > > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: Goaltimate > > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the Palm > > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February 12th & > > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will also > > > >have up to date coverage on our web site (http://www.goaltimate.com) > > > >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. > > > > > > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament > > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS > > > > > > > > West Palm Beach, Florida > > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 > > > > > > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals > > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain > > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz > > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan > > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott > > > >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas > > > >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen > > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson > > > > > > > >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters > > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie Diehl - Captain > > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna King > > > >Dara Bailey Susan Bridges > > > >Sarah Welsh Clea Lauriault > > > >Linda Scheffler Marta Puyana > > > >Jody Dozono Tanya Lopez > > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa Warren > > > > > > > >Seattle - Riot Santa Barbara - Condors > > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel Noble - Captain > > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret Thomas > > > >Vida Towne Danielle Zacherl > > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van Wie > > > >Michelle Burley Jamie Peters > > > >Kathy Porter Carrie Berlogar > > > >Deb Cussen Deganit Shechter > > > > > > > >Boston - Godiva Atlanta - Sol > > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer Christianson - Captain > > > >Christine Dunlap Angela Lin > > > >Vicky Chow Lisa Kotora > > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen Murray > > > >Christine Parisi Mary O'Neill > > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan Lansdell > > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle Chabot > > > > > > > > > > > > MEN'S DIVISION > > > > > > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa Barbara - Condors > > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay Higgins - Captain > > > >Scott Hollinger Andy Crews > > > >Gary Lippman Greg Husak > > > >Stu Downs James Studarus > > > >Jordan Haskell Rick Martz > > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason Seidler > > > >Jim Parinella Mario Viani > > > > > > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - Australian Rebellion > > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain Piers Truter - Captain > > > >Josh Quaas Iain Ferguson > > > >Alex Nord Angus Keenan > > > >Jon Remucal Duncan Keenan > > > >Eric Carr Colin Wagstaff > > > >Sam O'Brien Will Mitchell > > > >Mike Lawyer Steve Antonopolis > > > > > > > >Madison - G-Men New York - name TBA > > > >Simon MacNair - Captain Marty Brutvan - Captain > > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave Babkow > > > >David Markwardt Joe McHugh > > > >Brendan Sylvander Eric Olson > > > >Charlie Reznikoff Arnold Sanchez > > > >Will Henry Walter VanderSchraaf > > > >Jeff Hirsch > > > > > > > >Boston - 21st Century DoG Houston - Hammers > > > >Nathan Wicks - Captain Scott Buchanan - Captain > > > >Tom Matthews John Gryzwinski > > > >Lyn Debevoise Sean McCall > > > >Fortunat Mueller Jason Calvi > > > >Douglas Moore Steve Quach > > > >Brian Cameros Sandy Ganzell > > > >Justin Safdie Damian Scott > > > > > > > >Chicago - name TBA San Diego - Ground Zero > > > >Michael Glass - Captain Mike Boisvert - Captain > > > >Rich Hollingsworth Steve Ferguson > > > >Eric Zaslow Jim Ingabritsen > > > >Steve Whitehead Mike Blackard > > > >John Conway Greg Pinz > > > >Joe Cesario Cliff Smith > > > >Irv Gilner John Cione > > > > > > > >Seattle - Flatball Denver - Double Diamonds > > > >Jonathan Gewirtz - Captain Tim Wachuta - Captain > > > >Greg Shiring Randy Ricks > > > >Chris Page Bob Pease > > > >Barney Ahouse Buzz Ellsworth > > > >Rick Melner Jim Glynn > > > >Darryl Nounnan Curtis Manning > > > >Chris Hayden David Remucal > > > > > > > >Atlanta - Bounty Vancouver - Evil Genius > > > >David Goode - Captain Kirk Savage - Captain > > > >Brian Cornelison Jeff Cruickshank > > > >Nathan Wright Andrew Lugsdin > > > >Greg Allpow Evan Wood > > > >Adam Smeltzer Mike Grant > > > >Ricky McClellen Khai Foo > > > >John Hammond Mark Seraglia > > > > > > > >San Francisco - Bigack Miami - Team Florida > > > >Scott Lipscomb - Captain Kevin Bogusky > > > >Brian Morris Steve Fowler > > > >Idris Nolan Butch Brown > > > >Seth Blacher Kristien Shallan > > > >Edward Coyne Milan Hooper > > > >Jeff Williams Steven Johnson > > > >Dennis Warsen Dan DePaul > > > > > > > > OFFICIALS > > > > > > > >Donny Wallace Jim Herrick > > > >Tom Kennedy Steve Mooney > > > >Archie Neilson Al Peterson > > > >Dee Carey Dave Danks > > > >Dean Seville Trey Paulison > > > >Mark Lafoon David Becker > > > >Brett Evans Peter Schmalenberger > > > >David Ray Bob Pallares > > > >Dan Rodick (tentative) plus 7 from Florida area > > > > > > > > > > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > >Before you buy. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Wayne Retter > > > at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > > at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 16:53:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA02190 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:51:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02179 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:51:39 GMT Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11704 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:51:35 GMT Received: from clw13.clw ([209.8.25.197]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:49:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000111115050.0076ca28@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:50:51 -0500 To: "Matthew Lowe" , "BritDisc" From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: Goaltimate Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Goaltimate is one guy. One guy with bucks. Big bucks. He is willing to pay players to come play. He awards significant prize money out of his own pocket. ESPN responds to his significant (for disc sports) prize money, and his persistent efforts. ($30,000 for last years winners.) Having never seen the game, I can't say what its like, but the quotes on the site (www.goaltimate.com) from well-known ultimate players are some endorsement (if they are real.) Ultimate, even in the U.S., even w/ sponsors, does not have near the kind of money to match this one guy. (I think he says he spent something like $250,000 on last years tournament - one tournament!) So if ultimate can find a sugar daddy, good things can happen too, although increased efforts to make the sport TV-friendly are still needed. Hi from America, land of the dollar. Okay, the lots of dollars. (Hey, maybe you guys can sell Branson on it - just call ultimate "Virgin Frisbee". But don't let him change any rules.) (Okay, we could use a red disc.) (No, not a "Red" disc, a red disc.) ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 17:19:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA11578 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:18:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11555 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:18:21 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07359 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:18:21 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst358.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.25]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29228 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:17:49 GMT Message-ID: <387B65BC.A3DECC0A@york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:17:48 +0000 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Goaltimate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The one main difference which would make Ultimate more TV friendly would be the addition of officials. Although this is somewhat against the 'spirit' of Ultimate, it would make for a much faster flowing game. Another option would be each player having a whistle so that play can be brought to a stop quickly. This would eliminate the continuation of play which can last for as long as 30 seconds. I would be interested to hear peoples opinions on this and other possible rule changes. Jaimie Cross Yorkie Bar Kids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 17:31:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA15605 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:30:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15590 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:30:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17414 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:30:53 GMT Received: from appsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.152.24]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 128584-000CBN-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:30:49 +0000 Received: from ads-email-1 by appsys.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 00 17:31:15 +0000 Message-ID: <02ac01bf5c59$a9bf6240$03fe90c4@ads-email-1> From: "broadsystem" To: Subject: Fw: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:31:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Lowe To: BritDisc Date: 11 January 2000 10:36 Subject: Re: Goaltimate >I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with this but I have a question >about Goaltimate. > >I understand that it is very similar to ultimate and the list of teams (and >some individuals) below even make it look like a list for an ultimate >tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are all ultimate teams as far >as I know). And I have always been under the impresion that goaltimate was >not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads to my question > >Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why are its tournaments being >shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels in the world)? > >I hope someone has an answer for me, > >Thanks, > >Matt > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Wayne Retter >To: BritDisc >Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM >Subject: Goaltimate > > >> >> It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has joined the Feral >> Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! >> >> It's amazing what some people will for the chance to be on TV! >> >> Wayne >> >> >> rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner writes >> >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming Phase II: Goaltimate >> >Invitational tournament. The tournament will take place at the Palm >> >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, Florida, February 12th & >> >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the tournament. We will also >> >have up to date coverage on our web site (http://www.goaltimate.com) >> >over the tournament weekend. More information to come. >> > >> > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational Tournament >> > TEAMS & ROSTERS >> > >> > West Palm Beach, Florida >> > February 12th & 13th, 2000 >> > >> > WOMEN'S DIVISION >> > >> >San Francisco - Fury San Diego - Arch Rivals >> >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar Stuht - Captain >> >Dominque Fontenette Wende Pinz >> >Jennifer Donnelly Amy Duggan >> >Andrea Johnson Jennifer Scott >> >Maya Conrad Beth Thomas >> >Amy Jean Little Laura Ingebritsen >> >Stacey Scheomehl Kara Ferguson >> > >> >Portland - Dawls Gainesville - Spinsters >> >Tray C. 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Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:42:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19137 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:42:35 GMT Received: from janus.cypress.com (janus.cypress.com [157.95.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09838 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:42:33 GMT Received: from cobweb.mis.cypress.com (cobweb.mis.cypress.com [172.16.2.5]) by janus.cypress.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA16661 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypg.ukdesign.cypress.com (cypg.ukdesign.cypress.com [157.95.18.17]) by cobweb.mis.cypress.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12377 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypress.com (hook [157.95.18.46]) by cypg.ukdesign.cypress.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28707 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:30 GMT Message-ID: <387B6B0B.EC99B252@cypress.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:40:27 +0000 From: James Lutley Organization: Cypress Semiconductor UK Design Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: Goaltimate References: <387B65BC.A3DECC0A@york.ac.uk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2B86710891BF785FC45FBFF1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2B86710891BF785FC45FBFF1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I fully support the idea of whistles. Once we had finished playing, we could then all go clubbing with them and spend all night blowing them whilst raving. Cheers Jimmer jbc102 wrote: > The one main difference which would make Ultimate more TV friendly would > be the addition of officials. Although this is somewhat against the > 'spirit' of Ultimate, it would make for a much faster flowing game. > Another option would be each player having a whistle so that play can be > brought to a stop quickly. This would eliminate the continuation of play > which can last for as long as 30 seconds. > I would be interested to hear peoples opinions on this and other > possible rule changes. > > Jaimie Cross > Yorkie Bar Kids --------------2B86710891BF785FC45FBFF1 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jwl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for James Lutley Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jwl.vcf" begin:vcard n:Lutley;James tel;fax:+44 1256 416970 tel;work:+44 1256 416969 x202 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Cypress Semiconductor [UK] Ltd. version:2.1 email;internet:jwl@cypress.com title:Senior Design Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;Unit 11 Cedarwood,=0D=0AChineham Business Park;Basingstoke;Hants;RG24 8WD;UK x-mozilla-cpt:;19928 fn:James Lutley end:vcard --------------2B86710891BF785FC45FBFF1-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 17:43:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA19310 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:43:08 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19297 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:43:04 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09885 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:42:55 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:42:50 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:39:14 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'jbc102'" , BritDisc Subject: RE: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:39:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Whistles? Nice if you fancy swallowing it when you lay out or get horsed in the end-zone! I'll stick to shouting thank you. > -----Original Message----- > From: jbc102 [SMTP:jbc102@york.ac.uk] > Sent: 11 January 2000 17:18 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Goaltimate > > The one main difference which would make Ultimate more TV friendly would > be the addition of officials. Although this is somewhat against the > 'spirit' of Ultimate, it would make for a much faster flowing game. > Another option would be each player having a whistle so that play can be > brought to a stop quickly. This would eliminate the continuation of play > which can last for as long as 30 seconds. > I would be interested to hear peoples opinions on this and other > possible rule changes. > > Jaimie Cross > Yorkie Bar Kids ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 18:07:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA26046 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:05:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26041 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:05:26 GMT Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13652 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:05:25 GMT Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with SMTP id <115209>; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:05:55 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id NAA19734; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:04:51 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA21093; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:05:13 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:07:13 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C0C@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Goaltimate MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:05:52 -0500 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > and other possible rule changes Well how about 5 players, a goal and refs. Goaltimate looks like people have thought specifically how to make it TV friendly and made the rules to suit. So do we think we can come up with a more 'Ultimate' like, but still TV friendly set of rules? I don't know... What's happening with the World Games? Haven't there been rules changes for that? 6-a-side or something, anyone know anymore? Do those rule changes give us something more saleable to TV? -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 18:32:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA02761 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:31:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02748 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:31:34 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16029 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:31:33 GMT Received: from m51-mp1-cvx1b.ren.ntl.com ([62.252.136.51] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 1285yU-0006wx-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:25:03 +0000 Message-ID: <001501bf5c62$13d8f800$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" References: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C0C@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> Subject: Re: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:30:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone explain why ultimate would not make good TV? As far as I can tell the rules are ok, the pitch shape is fine and so on. There are only two problems I can see, 1) Without referees ultimate is slower than goaltimate. 2) Goaltimate has 100% matching kits, scoreboards, time keepers and is a whole lot more profesionallly done (not that difficult with hundereds of dollars!) Ultimate does not have a lot of these. Are these the only problems or can anyone see any more? If so I don't think they are that difficult to solve. The second point is already being dealt with. Rosters are being pushed even more and the top 8 teams are supposed to have numbered, matching kits. However, refs would be a problem as they are against the idea of "spirit". As Neil has already mentoned, Will the World Games in 2001 be on TV? How are they dealing with ultimate? Talking to much, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Travers, Neil To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:05 PM Subject: RE: Goaltimate > > and other possible rule changes > > Well how about 5 players, a goal and refs. Goaltimate looks like people > have thought specifically how to make it TV friendly and made the rules to > suit. > > So do we think we can come up with a more 'Ultimate' like, but still TV > friendly set of rules? I don't know... > > What's happening with the World Games? Haven't there been rules changes for > that? 6-a-side or something, anyone know anymore? Do those rule changes give > us something more saleable to TV? > > > -- > Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 19:20:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA12726 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:20:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12709 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:20:04 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18989 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:58 GMT Received: from appsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.152.24]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1286pe-000MqF-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:54 +0000 Received: from ads-email-1 by appsys.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 00 19:19:14 +0000 Message-ID: <006f01bf5c68$bf35ee00$03fe90c4@ads-email-1> From: "broadsystem" To: Subject: Fw: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Barry O'Kane To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 11 January 2000 11:49 Subject: RE: Goaltimate >Ahh yes - and all the money came from the sale ESPN? Someone told me the >last one didn't work out so well - but they are doing it again? > >And there is another question. Who sold it and how? Why can't Ultimate >(WUCC, WUGC, UPA nats - whatever) be sold in the same way? > >I realise that there have been debates about this on rsd - can anyone fill >us in? > >Barry > >At 10:43 11/01/00 +0000, you wrote: >>Very simple really......They pay people! >> >>I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for all >>competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in prize >>money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the >>players invited are well known Ultimate players. >> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 19:21:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA12693 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12678 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26911 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:54 GMT Received: from appsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.152.24]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1286pd-000MqF-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:53 +0000 Received: from ads-email-1 by appsys.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 00 19:19:04 +0000 Message-ID: <006a01bf5c68$b94934c0$03fe90c4@ads-email-1> From: "broadsystem" To: Subject: Fw: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:19:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Barry O'Kane To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 11 January 2000 11:49 Subject: RE: Goaltimate >Ahh yes - and all the money came from the sale ESPN? Someone told me the >last one didn't work out so well - but they are doing it again? > >And there is another question. Who sold it and how? Why can't Ultimate >(WUCC, WUGC, UPA nats - whatever) be sold in the same way? > >I realise that there have been debates about this on rsd - can anyone fill >us in? > >Barry > >At 10:43 11/01/00 +0000, you wrote: >>Very simple really......They pay people! >> >>I know for the San Diego tournament last year the organisers paid for all >>competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, and $20,000 in prize >>money. They then sold the footage of the tournament to ESPN. All the >>players invited are well known Ultimate players. >> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 19:43:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA18083 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:42 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18076 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:40 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28282 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:40 GMT Received: from appsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.152.24]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1287Bf-00083f-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:39 +0000 Received: from ads-email-1 by appsys.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 00 19:43:27 +0000 Message-ID: <01e801bf5c6c$2165b440$03fe90c4@ads-email-1> From: "broadsystem" To: Subject: Fw: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Colin Wagstaff To: BritDisc Date: 11 January 2000 11:50 Subject: RE: Goaltimate >Hello Britdisc, > >Just in case you all thought i was a "Well known >Ulitmate player"....... > >The Hawaii tournament "Kaimana Klassic" is the >following week-end and i made the Australian team for >that. The organisers of the Goaltimate event offered >to pay 90% of seven players airfares from Hawaii to >Miami. Not really an offer to be refused. Couple >that with free accomodation and the only non north >american team/country to be invited it was an >opportunity to good to be missed. The chance to play >what could be a potential competitor to our loved >sport of Ultimate and a chance to win some of the >US$30K prize money (I believe they is some cash for >last place). >If you want to know more look at www.goaltimate.com >where there are some basic and more in depth rules. I >guess Wayne has already made it to the >site.......surprise surprise!! > >Isn't the sun just great! > >Colin. > > > >--- "Flores, Aram" wrote: >> Very simple really......They pay people! >> >> I know for the San Diego tournament last year the >> organisers paid for all >> competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, >> and $20,000 in prize >> money. They then sold the footage of the tournament >> to ESPN. All the >> players invited are well known Ultimate players. >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] >> > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 >> > To: BritDisc >> > Subject: Re: Goaltimate >> > >> > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with >> this but I have a question >> > about Goaltimate. >> > >> > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate >> and the list of teams >> > (and >> > some individuals) below even make it look like a >> list for an ultimate >> > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are >> all ultimate teams as >> > far >> > as I know). And I have always been under the >> impresion that goaltimate was >> > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads >> to my question >> > >> > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why >> are its tournaments being >> > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels >> in the world)? >> > >> > I hope someone has an answer for me, >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Matt >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Wayne Retter >> >> > To: BritDisc >> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM >> > Subject: Goaltimate >> > >> > >> > > >> > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has >> joined the Feral >> > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! >> > > >> > > It's amazing what some people will for the >> chance to be on TV! >> > > >> > > Wayne >> > > >> > > >> > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner >> writes >> > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming >> Phase II: Goaltimate >> > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will >> take place at the Palm >> > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, >> Florida, February 12th & >> > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the >> tournament. We will also >> > > >have up to date coverage on our web site >> (http://www.goaltimate.com) >> > > >over the tournament weekend. More information >> to come. >> > > > >> > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational >> Tournament >> > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS >> > > > >> > > > West Palm Beach, Florida >> > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 >> > > > >> > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION >> > > > >> > > >San Francisco - Fury San >> Diego - Arch Rivals >> > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar >> Stuht - Captain >> > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende >> Pinz >> > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy >> Duggan >> > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer >> Scott >> > > >Maya Conrad Beth >> Thomas >> > > >Amy Jean Little >> Laura Ingebritsen >> > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara >> Ferguson >> > > > >> > > >Portland - Dawls >> Gainesville - Spinsters >> > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie >> Diehl - Captain >> > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna >> King >> > > >Dara Bailey Susan >> Bridges >> > > >Sarah Welsh Clea >> Lauriault >> > > >Linda Scheffler >> Marta Puyana >> > > >Jody Dozono Tanya >> Lopez >> > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa >> Warren >> > > > >> > > >Seattle - Riot Santa >> Barbara - Condors >> > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel >> Noble - Captain >> > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret >> Thomas >> > > >Vida Towne Danielle >> Zacherl >> > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van >> Wie >> > > >Michelle Burley >> Jamie Peters >> > > >Kathy Porter Carrie >> Berlogar >> > > >Deb Cussen Deganit >> Shechter >> > > > >> > > >Boston - Godiva >> Atlanta - Sol >> > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer >> Christianson - Captain >> > > >Christine Dunlap Angela >> Lin >> > > >Vicky Chow Lisa >> Kotora >> > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen >> Murray >> > > >Christine Parisi Mary >> O'Neill >> > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan >> Lansdell >> > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle >> Chabot >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > MEN'S DIVISION >> > > > >> > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa >> Barbara - Condors >> > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay >> Higgins - Captain >> > > >Scott Hollinger >> Andy Crews >> > > >Gary Lippman Greg >> Husak >> > > >Stu Downs James >> Studarus >> > > >Jordan Haskell Rick >> Martz >> > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason >> Seidler >> > > >Jim Parinella Mario >> Viani >> > > > >> > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - >> Australian Rebellion >> > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain >> Piers Truter - Captain >> > > >Josh Quaas Iain >> Ferguson >> > > >Alex Nord Angus >> Keenan >> > > >Jon Remucal Duncan >> Keenan >> > > >Eric Carr Colin >> Wagstaff >> > > >Sam O'Brien Will >> Mitchell >> > > >Mike Lawyer Steve >> Antonopolis >> > > > >> > > >Madison - G-Men >> New York - name TBA >> > > >Simon MacNair - Captain >> Marty Brutvan - Captain >> > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave >> Babkow >> > > >David Markwardt Joe >> McHugh >> >=== message truncated === >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 19:43:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA18071 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18064 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:36 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21635 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:35 GMT Received: from appsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.152.24]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1287BZ-0007wB-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from ads-email-1 by appsys.demon.co.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 00 19:43:17 +0000 Message-ID: <01e301bf5c6c$1b6fd340$03fe90c4@ads-email-1> From: "broadsystem" To: Subject: Fw: Goaltimate Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Colin Wagstaff To: BritDisc Date: 11 January 2000 11:50 Subject: RE: Goaltimate >Hello Britdisc, > >Just in case you all thought i was a "Well known >Ulitmate player"....... > >The Hawaii tournament "Kaimana Klassic" is the >following week-end and i made the Australian team for >that. The organisers of the Goaltimate event offered >to pay 90% of seven players airfares from Hawaii to >Miami. Not really an offer to be refused. Couple >that with free accomodation and the only non north >american team/country to be invited it was an >opportunity to good to be missed. The chance to play >what could be a potential competitor to our loved >sport of Ultimate and a chance to win some of the >US$30K prize money (I believe they is some cash for >last place). >If you want to know more look at www.goaltimate.com >where there are some basic and more in depth rules. I >guess Wayne has already made it to the >site.......surprise surprise!! > >Isn't the sun just great! > >Colin. > > > >--- "Flores, Aram" wrote: >> Very simple really......They pay people! >> >> I know for the San Diego tournament last year the >> organisers paid for all >> competitors to fly to San Diego, hotels, food, beer, >> and $20,000 in prize >> money. They then sold the footage of the tournament >> to ESPN. All the >> players invited are well known Ultimate players. >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Matthew Lowe [SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] >> > Sent: 11 December 1999 10:29 >> > To: BritDisc >> > Subject: Re: Goaltimate >> > >> > I hope you all don't mind me bothering you with >> this but I have a question >> > about Goaltimate. >> > >> > I understand that it is very similar to ultimate >> and the list of teams >> > (and >> > some individuals) below even make it look like a >> list for an ultimate >> > tournament (DOG, Godiva, Sub-Zero and Condors are >> all ultimate teams as >> > far >> > as I know). And I have always been under the >> impresion that goaltimate was >> > not that big in comparison to ultimate, this leads >> to my question >> > >> > Why is Goaltimate getting so much press and why >> are its tournaments being >> > shown on ESPN (one of the biggest sports channels >> in the world)? >> > >> > I hope someone has an answer for me, >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Matt >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Wayne Retter >> >> > To: BritDisc >> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 8:24 PM >> > Subject: Goaltimate >> > >> > >> > > >> > > It seems that Colin Wagstaff (of UTI fame) has >> joined the Feral >> > > Goaltimate squad for a trip to the USA! >> > > >> > > It's amazing what some people will for the >> chance to be on TV! >> > > >> > > Wayne >> > > >> > > >> > > rec.sport.disc, Rick Conner >> writes >> > > >Here are the teams & rosters for the upcoming >> Phase II: Goaltimate >> > > >Invitational tournament. The tournament will >> take place at the Palm >> > > >Beach Polo & Country Club, West Palm Beach, >> Florida, February 12th & >> > > >13th, 2000. ESPN will be there to cover the >> tournament. We will also >> > > >have up to date coverage on our web site >> (http://www.goaltimate.com) >> > > >over the tournament weekend. More information >> to come. >> > > > >> > > > Phase II: Goaltimate Invitational >> Tournament >> > > > TEAMS & ROSTERS >> > > > >> > > > West Palm Beach, Florida >> > > > February 12th & 13th, 2000 >> > > > >> > > > WOMEN'S DIVISION >> > > > >> > > >San Francisco - Fury San >> Diego - Arch Rivals >> > > >Cathy Erickson - Captain Shar >> Stuht - Captain >> > > >Dominque Fontenette Wende >> Pinz >> > > >Jennifer Donnelly Amy >> Duggan >> > > >Andrea Johnson Jennifer >> Scott >> > > >Maya Conrad Beth >> Thomas >> > > >Amy Jean Little >> Laura Ingebritsen >> > > >Stacey Scheomehl Kara >> Ferguson >> > > > >> > > >Portland - Dawls >> Gainesville - Spinsters >> > > >Tray C. Satterfield - Captain Kellie >> Diehl - Captain >> > > >Deana McMurrer Deanna >> King >> > > >Dara Bailey Susan >> Bridges >> > > >Sarah Welsh Clea >> Lauriault >> > > >Linda Scheffler >> Marta Puyana >> > > >Jody Dozono Tanya >> Lopez >> > > >Sharleen Kamin Mellissa >> Warren >> > > > >> > > >Seattle - Riot Santa >> Barbara - Condors >> > > >Rene' Alexander - Captain Rachel >> Noble - Captain >> > > >Abbi Nilssen Margaret >> Thomas >> > > >Vida Towne Danielle >> Zacherl >> > > >Mary Jorgenson Jill Van >> Wie >> > > >Michelle Burley >> Jamie Peters >> > > >Kathy Porter Carrie >> Berlogar >> > > >Deb Cussen Deganit >> Shechter >> > > > >> > > >Boston - Godiva >> Atlanta - Sol >> > > >Shana Cook - Captain Jennifer >> Christianson - Captain >> > > >Christine Dunlap Angela >> Lin >> > > >Vicky Chow Lisa >> Kotora >> > > >Ellen Taggart Eileen >> Murray >> > > >Christine Parisi Mary >> O'Neill >> > > >Gwyn Tracy Susan >> Lansdell >> > > >Molly Goodwin Michelle >> Chabot >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > MEN'S DIVISION >> > > > >> > > >Wellesley - Founders Santa >> Barbara - Condors >> > > >Paul Sackley - Captain Jay >> Higgins - Captain >> > > >Scott Hollinger >> Andy Crews >> > > >Gary Lippman Greg >> Husak >> > > >Stu Downs James >> Studarus >> > > >Jordan Haskell Rick >> Martz >> > > >Jeremy Seeger Jason >> Seidler >> > > >Jim Parinella Mario >> Viani >> > > > >> > > >Minneapolis - Sub-zero Sydney - >> Australian Rebellion >> > > >Eric Lonsdorf - Captain >> Piers Truter - Captain >> > > >Josh Quaas Iain >> Ferguson >> > > >Alex Nord Angus >> Keenan >> > > >Jon Remucal Duncan >> Keenan >> > > >Eric Carr Colin >> Wagstaff >> > > >Sam O'Brien Will >> Mitchell >> > > >Mike Lawyer Steve >> Antonopolis >> > > > >> > > >Madison - G-Men >> New York - name TBA >> > > >Simon MacNair - Captain >> Marty Brutvan - Captain >> > > >Todd Eisenberg Dave >> Babkow >> > > >David Markwardt Joe >> McHugh >> >=== message truncated === >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 11 20:50:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA00902 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:49:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00840 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:49:25 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk ([212.1.157.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26833 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:49:24 GMT Received: from 212.159.139.57 [212.159.133.202] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk); Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:53:54 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Tue, 11 Jan 00 20:53:54 +0000 Message-ID: <387B969B.5D81@totalise.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:46:46 +0000 From: jack goolden Reply-To: jgoolden@totalise.co.uk Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-VM711-000 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brit disc Subject: goaltimate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk is anybody else getting duplicate britdisc messages from "broadside" is this evidence that the millenium bug is more than a flu epidmic? on a more serious note, what do we all enjoy about ultimate, and would being on TV and sponsorship really be a good thing? personally I enjoy being outside and getting the exercise, and I wouldn't get that much out of wearing matching socks/shorts/trainers - althogh I do feel a certain pride wearing a my team Tshirt. being paid to do it, although that's a long way off, would surely kill the atmosphere at tournaments As for refs, I think that all who played at worlds would agree that there was a vast improvement with the time keeping officials (30secs for a call or the disc goes back, 60secs between the point being scored and the pull etc. or something along those lines) but then again I'm a self-centred bastard who can't spell and doesn't give a monkeys about the 'greater good of the sport' jack CAF ps. that's not to say that growth and publicity are a bad thing From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 10:30:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA24130 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:28:00 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24113 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:27:57 GMT Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10265 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:27:57 GMT Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:27:53 +0000 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21254; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:26:11 GMT From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: jbc102 Cc: BritDisc Subject: Re: Goaltimate In-Reply-To: <387B65BC.A3DECC0A@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:22:20 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:17:48 +0000 jbc102 wrote: > The one main difference which would make Ultimate more TV > friendly would be the addition of officials. What, so that TV viewers can analyse the super slow-mo and realise how crap the officials are and how they make the outcome of the game a complete lottery ? It wouldn't be very original, but I agree there is an apparently big market for this sort of thing. Raf From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 11:08:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA06697 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:07:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06673 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:07:08 GMT Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14622 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:07:08 GMT Received: from [194.112.56.19] (th-en139-019.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.56.19]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA24248; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:07:07 GMT Subject: Re: Goaltimate Message-Id: <000000597403030516469@daletaylor.co.uk> From: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:07:49 +0000 Organization: Dale Taylor Ltd X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk (Nolan Taylor, Dale Taylor Ltd) To: jbc102@york.ac.uk (jbc102), Postmaster@mailhost1.dircon.co.uk, raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk, raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk (rafael freire) Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (BritDisc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Wed, Jan 12, 2000, 10:22:20 am GMT rafael freire wrote: > >On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:17:48 +0000 jbc102 > wrote: > >> The one main difference which would make Ultimate more TV >> friendly would be the addition of officials. > >What, so that TV viewers can analyse the super slow-mo >and realise how crap the officials are and how they make >the outcome of the game a complete lottery ? It wouldn't >be very original, but I agree there is an apparently >big market for this sort of thing. > >Raf > > > I suspaect that the main thing that makes it more TV freindly is that fewer cameras are required and in turn fewer personnel and lower transportation costs etc. etc. are required to cover the action. Why else are we to assume that Darts is shown as a sport and that 'real life' drama is constantly on our screens in place of the lavish productions that were always so popular in the past. It's the TV exec's great con that we've been falling for increasingly over the last decade or so. N --------------------------------------- Nolan Taylor Dale Taylor Ltd Email: nolan@daletaylor.co.uk Tel: 01323 430700 Fax: 01323 430223 --------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 12:43:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA11644 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:42:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11617 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:42:01 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26592 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:55 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst385.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.61]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02197; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:19 GMT Message-ID: <387C766E.57D5C728@york.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:18 +0000 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk, BritDisc Subject: Re: Goaltimate References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm assuming that Raf is talking about football here, if so is he the only person in the world who doesn't realise that football is THE biggest sport in the world and doesn't have any trouble attracting sponsors. Jaimie Cross Yorkie Bar Kids rafael freire wrote: > > > > What, so that TV viewers can analyse the super slow-mo > and realise how crap the officials are and how they make > the outcome of the game a complete lottery ? It wouldn't > be very original, but I agree there is an apparently > big market for this sort of thing. > > Raf From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 12:53:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA16258 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:52:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16243 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:52:28 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28950 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:52:01 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA26636; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id HAA20320; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id MAA27201; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:50:23 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:50:22 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A02100326@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Goaltimate Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:50:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Rafi - we'll have no more irony on britdisc, it clearly perturbs that younger members of our audience! > -----Original Message----- > From: jbc102 [SMTP:jbc102@york.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 January 2000 12:41 > To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk; BritDisc > Subject: Re: Goaltimate > > I'm assuming that Raf is talking about football here, if so is he the > only person in the world who doesn't realise that football is THE > biggest sport in the world and doesn't have any trouble attracting > sponsors. > > Jaimie Cross > Yorkie Bar Kids > > rafael freire wrote: > > > > > > > > What, so that TV viewers can analyse the super slow-mo > > and realise how crap the officials are and how they make > > the outcome of the game a complete lottery ? It wouldn't > > be very original, but I agree there is an apparently > > big market for this sort of thing. > > > > Raf From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 14:11:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA11387 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:08:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11366 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:08:11 GMT Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06094 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:08:11 GMT Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:07:57 +0000 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29709; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:07:40 GMT From: rafael freire Reply-To: raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk To: jbc102 Cc: BritDisc Subject: Re: Goaltimate In-Reply-To: <387C766E.57D5C728@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:08:43 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Delivery-Receipt-To: rafael freire X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jaime, I took your point this morning that ultimate may well need officiating if it is to attract tv coverage, but you seemed to have misinterpreted my reply. At the end of my e-mail I agreed with you, in that indeed only officiated sports (yes, I've heard of football) are currently broadcast on tv. My point was that refereeing is not a passive element of sport necessary for correcting accidental shifts in advantage, but instead takes an active role in establishing fairness. Responsibility for fair play therefore moves from the players to the referee. This opens up a huge can of worms- such as the referee (who is not error proof) now has a strong influence on the outcome of the game or players may influence the referee directly to obtain a favourable outcome. Since I've now been drawn (reluctantly) into this debate, I don't think officiation of ultimate is the only way it can get TV coverage. I agree the lack of officiation is a drawback- most ultimate naive people think it means the game is uncompetitive. Infact, what I consider is absent in ultimate is not the competitive side, but rather the need of players to influence the referee's opinion. I don't think this is a weakness in our quest for tv coverage (the reverse in fact), but rather a challenge for the marketing of the sport. Raf On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:18 +0000 jbc102 wrote: > I'm assuming that Raf is talking about football here, if so is he the > only person in the world who doesn't realise that football is THE > biggest sport in the world and doesn't have any trouble attracting > sponsors. > > Jaimie Cross > Yorkie Bar Kids > > rafael freire wrote: > > > > > > > > What, so that TV viewers can analyse the super slow-mo > > and realise how crap the officials are and how they make > > the outcome of the game a complete lottery ? It wouldn't > > be very original, but I agree there is an apparently > > big market for this sort of thing. > > > > Raf From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 16:12:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA22512 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22501 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:43 GMT Received: from relay2.nai.com (relay2.nai.com [161.69.3.67]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19422 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:10:41 GMT Received: from webshield2.na.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by relay2.nai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA08175 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM ca-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY webshield2.na.nai.com ; Wed Jan 12 08:15:25 2000 -0800 Received: by na-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:10:17 -0800 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F01B393B9@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Goaltimate Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:09:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I didn't really want to get involved in this, but there are some points that I wanted to see raised - seems I will be the one to raise them. 1 - Goaltimate is easier for people to identify with because there is a goal. As Jaimie so rightly pointed out (whilst missing the point ;-) ) Football is the biggest sport in the world - people can readily identify with something that is similar (see the ratings of things like field hockey and water polo when the UK is competing as opposed to the World Bowl (american football)) 2 - There is a large sponsorship effort for goaltimate by one person, who promotes it massively IN THE USA - ESPN is a US oriented TV Station (its in it's charter IIRC), which broadcasts around the world - much like Fox Sports (Sky sports to those in the UK) 3 - There is a parrallel which can be drawn between the following sports: Women's Football Field Hockey Ultimate Women's football in the US was not seen very widely in comparison to Men's Football at all - since the US won the women's world cup, you can hardly escape it - people like Brandy Chastain are now multi-million endorsement opportunities. In Field Hockey, it took Shaun Kerly et al. to springboard the sport to the screen (and even now that we haven't won anything like the Olympics since, it is fading into nothingness) Following this logic (dubious to say the least ;-) ) we need to win the Worlds and or World Clubs, to get TV sponsorship...... Remember that the finals can sometimes be seen (albeit on Channel 4 that well known Sprot channel.) Cads - tired, hungry and at work WAY too early. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 16:27:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA27762 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:25:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27739 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:25:52 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21877 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:25:52 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 12 Jan 100 16:25:28 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 12 Jan 100 16:25:05 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:24:56 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Big Breakfast X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <1664683521F@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Big Breakfast have just confirmed that frisbee will feature on tomorrows (Thursday) show. They want me to display my skills as a former World Masters Accuracy champion by hitting targets on peoples backs. I won't be taking my golf discs! Tommorow is the 43rd anniversary of the first production frisbee, the Pluto Platter. That is what sparked off the idea for them. Derek *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 18:08:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA25563 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:06:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25551 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:06:27 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29973 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:06:26 GMT Received: from cst272.york.ac.uk (cst272.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.100]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00912; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:05:54 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:05:54 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: pete w To: rafael freire cc: jbc102 , BritDisc Subject: Re: Goaltimate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk just to elaborate on Raf's comments concerning the 'huge can of worms' that the addition of officials would release upon us and 'the need of players to influence the referee's opinion'. although officials might make ultimate more 'tv-friendly', with the rules as they now stand we simply could not rely on officials to make all of the decisions. consider the pick and fast-count violations. it would take a ridiculous amount of officials to monitor all the players, looking for picks. similarly, what if the official can't hear the count? does he then take the defenders word for it that it was fast? surely this also would be unsatisfactory. i reckon that these examples show that we cannot escape this whole idea of self-regulation between the players involved unless there are some radicxal rule changes! sorry that was a bit of a rant. pete wright (yorkie bar kids) - no i don't want whistles before you ask! ................................................................ We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - Former U.S. Vice-President Dan Quayle ................................................................ On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, rafael freire wrote: > Jaime, > > I took your point this morning that ultimate may well > need officiating if it is to attract tv coverage, but you > seemed to have misinterpreted my reply. At the end of my > e-mail I agreed with you, in that indeed only officiated > sports (yes, I've heard of football) are currently > broadcast on tv. > > My point was that refereeing is not a passive element of > sport necessary for correcting accidental shifts in > advantage, but instead takes an active role in > establishing fairness. Responsibility for fair play > therefore moves from the players to the referee. This > opens up a huge can of worms- such as the referee (who is > not error proof) now has a strong influence on the outcome > of the game or players may influence the referee directly > to obtain a favourable outcome. > > Since I've now been drawn (reluctantly) into this debate, > I don't think officiation of ultimate is the only way it > can get TV coverage. I agree the lack of officiation > is a drawback- most ultimate naive people think it > means the game is uncompetitive. Infact, what I consider > is absent in ultimate is not the competitive side, but > rather the need of players to influence the referee's > opinion. I don't think this is a weakness in our quest > for tv coverage (the reverse in fact), but rather a > challenge for the marketing of the sport. > > Raf > > > On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:18 +0000 jbc102 > wrote: > > > I'm assuming that Raf is talking about football here, if so is he the > > only person in the world who doesn't realise that football is THE > > biggest sport in the world and doesn't have any trouble attracting > > sponsors. > > > > Jaimie Cross > > Yorkie Bar Kids > > > > rafael freire wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > What, so that TV viewers can analyse the super slow-mo > > > and realise how crap the officials are and how they make > > > the outcome of the game a complete lottery ? It wouldn't > > > be very original, but I agree there is an apparently > > > big market for this sort of thing. > > > > > > Raf > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 18:23:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA29333 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:22:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29320 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:22:11 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01853 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:22:01 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst375.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.51]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02997 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:21:31 GMT Message-ID: <387CC62A.DECE896D@york.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:21:30 +0000 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Officiating Ultimate Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As I seem to have started a 'Great Debate' on this subject, I would like to point out that it would seem unrealistic to have just one ref. Because of the speed of Ultimate, i.e. you can't run faster than a thrown disc (as I found out all too well in practice today, Thanks to Tom) there would need to be several (my suggestion would be 3/4 indoor and 5/6 outdoor) on the pitch at the same time. This would help reduce the pressure on one player and cut out some of the problems football is trying to cut out by means of 2 refs, goal line cameras etc. . I'm sure the point of how will you get so many refs will be raised, so I'll try and address it. Every club I know of has more than enough members to make up several teams, so getting a couple to referee can't be that difficult. This would be especially viable at tournaments where you can have players from a different pool refereeing (thereby reducing the possibility of 'favoritism'. Again I'm interested to hear your comments, but please don't send them to britdisc and jbc102, as it just clogs up my inbox Jaimie Cross Yorkie Bar Kids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 18:36:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA02579 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:36:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02568 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:36:05 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03443 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:35:50 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:35:45 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:32:10 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Officiating Ultimate Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:32:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 14 players and 6 refs? Only one word for that - Pick! > -----Original Message----- > From: jbc102 [SMTP:jbc102@york.ac.uk] > Sent: 12 January 2000 18:22 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Officiating Ultimate > > As I seem to have started a 'Great Debate' on this subject, I would like > to point out that it would seem unrealistic to have just one ref. > Because of the speed of Ultimate, i.e. you can't run faster than a > thrown disc (as I found out all too well in practice today, Thanks to > Tom) there would need to be several (my suggestion would be 3/4 indoor > and 5/6 outdoor) on the pitch at the same time. This would help reduce > the pressure on one player and cut out some of the problems football is > trying to cut out by means of 2 refs, goal line cameras etc. . > I'm sure the point of how will you get so many refs will be raised, so > I'll try and address it. Every club I know of has more than enough > members to make up several teams, so getting a couple to referee can't > be that difficult. This would be especially viable at tournaments where > you can have players from a different pool refereeing (thereby reducing > the possibility of 'favoritism'. > Again I'm interested to hear your comments, but please don't send them > to britdisc and jbc102, as it just clogs up my inbox > > Jaimie Cross > Yorkie Bar Kids ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 18:58:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA07605 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:37 GMT Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07574 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:32 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04124 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:57:32 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 12 Jan 100 18:57:08 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 12 Jan 100 18:56:54 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:56:44 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Officiating Ultimate In-reply-to: <387CC62A.DECE896D@york.ac.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <168CE525CE5@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paid referees at televised games is feasible. Whether it is desirable is another question. Referees at regular tournaments I doubt very much. Who on earth would want to be a referee? I can't imagine that it would ever be a positive experience - just look at the shit footbal refs get. There would be no less arguments on the field either. If people don't want to ref it will be mighty difficult to get them to do so. Del > As I seem to have started a 'Great Debate' on this subject, I would like > to point out that it would seem unrealistic to have just one ref. Because > of the speed of Ultimate, i.e. you can't run faster than a thrown disc (as > I found out all too well in practice today, Thanks to Tom) there would > need to be several (my suggestion would be 3/4 indoor and 5/6 outdoor) on > the pitch at the same time. This would help reduce the pressure on one > player and cut out some of the problems football is trying to cut out by > means of 2 refs, goal line cameras etc. . I'm sure the point of how will > you get so many refs will be raised, so I'll try and address it. Every > club I know of has more than enough members to make up several teams, so > getting a couple to referee can't be that difficult. This would be > especially viable at tournaments where you can have players from a > different pool refereeing (thereby reducing the possibility of > 'favoritism'. Again I'm interested to hear your comments, but please don't > send them to britdisc and jbc102, as it just clogs up my inbox > > Jaimie Cross > Yorkie Bar Kids *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 522710 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 572645 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 19:54:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA18195 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:53:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18182 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:53:03 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f165.hotmail.com [209.185.131.228]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA21395 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:53:02 GMT Received: (qmail 8293 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jan 2000 19:52:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000112195240.8292.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.38.165.124 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:52:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.38.165.124] From: "Paul Smith" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Officiating Ultimate Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:52:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do we need to make Ultimate TV friendly? I don't know about everyone else, but I just play because I enjoy it, not to get on TV... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 12 21:34:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA06454 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:33:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06441 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:33:06 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13993 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:33:06 GMT Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:32:09 +0100 Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de by irafs1 (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:32:08 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C0C@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:32:08 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: RE: Goaltimate Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At 19:05 Uhr +0100 11.01.2000, Travers, Neil wrote: ... > >What's happening with the World Games? Haven't there been rules changes for >that? 6-a-side or something, anyone know anymore? Do those rule changes give >us something more saleable to TV? As far as I know the 6-a-side change is only due to the (low) number of allowed participants at the World Games and has nothing to do with TV. Official WFDF information can be found at the official WFDF web site: http://www.wfdf.org/WG2001.htm Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 00:27:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA03655 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:24:54 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03649 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:24:50 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08439 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:24:50 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 128Y4H-000ED1-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:24:49 +0000 Subject: Re: Goaltimate Date: Thu, 13 Jan 00 00:26:36 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BRITDISC" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Can someone explain why ultimate would not make good TV? As far as I can >tell the rules are ok, the pitch shape is fine and so on. There are only two >problems I can see, Ultimate would make great TV, but needs a big TV crew to cover a game adequately, so is relatively "big budget". Goaltimate is easier to shoot well with a small camera crew, because it is played on a much smaller pitch, and all the goal-scoring (for both teams) happens in one well-defined area. Notice how the little local camera crews that show up to WUGC events always seem to gravitate towards the Guts games and ignore the main event.... it's easy to see where the action is going to happen in Guts, so you can set up accordingly. Can't do that with Ultimate. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 06:17:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id GAA11199 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:17:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11192 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:16:58 GMT From: cwags@trade-indemnity.com.au Received: from SydGate1.qbe.com.au ([203.0.73.235]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA17789 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:15:58 GMT Received: by SydGate1.qbe.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id CA256865.001BCF40 ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:03:45 +1100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: TIAL@QBE To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <4A256865.0020FD36.00@SydGate1.qbe.com.au> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:02:15 +1000 Subject: Goaltimate - Miami 12/13 Feb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More details if anyone is interested. 4) ESPN will be televising the tournament approx 2 weeks after the tournament 5) Miami - currently about 30 degrees celcius with 7mph winds 6) Womens league and Aussies there for the 1st time 7) Next Tournament in Vancouver Aug 2000 8) Game itself a) 4 teams per pool b) You will play a 5 game series, 1st team with 3 wins wins c) Round field with goal in centre of field d) 4 persons allowed onto field to play e) 3 persons in the Sub-box. You can sub on the fly; don't mess with the play however f) USA Teams have only 6 persons in their teams (2 subs) g) Goaltimate has Referees h) 2 yellow cards and you are out of the Game i) 4 yellow cards in the series and you are out of the series j) Red Card is for violent behaviour and you will be ejected from the tournament k) No nudity, no drugs, no profanity (All is being televised by ESPN) - Police presence l) Picks are allowable as long as it is not a deliberate violent act m) Double Teaming is allowable n) 5 second stall count. You can be anywhere on the field when you start the stall count but you must be heard o) No zoning especially in the Goal mouth p) Cannot touch the Goal q) If Disc hits Goal and goes in it is not a Goal 9) Teams Dinner is Saturday night Feb 12th 10) Registration is at 8am Saturday 12th, Games start at 9pm with end of day at 4:30pm 11) Captains Dinner is a BBQ on Friday evening 7pm - venue to be told later 12) TELEVISED - this tournament is televised. The Australian Team will be interviewed personally. This means that the Australian Sports Commission will have the opportunity to watch. Please behave professionally. I am negotiating a deal with Australian Television and we will need the above footage. Jonathon - in the USA they are about to start Regional Tournaments to see who goes to these 'sponsored' games. Maybe we should consider the same for us. Finally - I do want to meet the whole team before they fly out, I am negotiating with Funtastic also to get some uniforms etc for you guys to wear whilst you are on ESPN Padi AFDA-Pres From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 10:46:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA29822 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:44:11 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29788 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:44:07 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <387CC62A.DECE896D@york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:47:24 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: Officiating Ultimate Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Jaimie Cross, Yorkie Bar Kids, wrote: >As I seem to have started a 'Great Debate' on this subject, I would like >to point out that it would seem unrealistic to have just one ref. >Because of the speed of Ultimate, i.e. you can't run faster than a >thrown disc (as I found out all too well in practice today, Thanks to >Tom) there would need to be several (my suggestion would be 3/4 indoor >and 5/6 outdoor) on the pitch at the same time. [SNIP] I would go further ... I think there ought to be 14 on-field refs (10 for indoors) and they should be allowed to call each and every foul and violation they see as and when they occur. In fact, to allow them enough space, I would remove the on-field players and hand control of the disc to the refs ... Oh dear! I see to have re-invented Ultimate ;-) Sammy ... couldn't resist! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 14:01:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA06252 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:58:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06246 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:58:00 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f102.hotmail.com [209.185.131.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06843 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:57:58 GMT Received: (qmail 42891 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jan 2000 13:57:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000113135722.42889.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.149.84.253 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 05:57:22 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.149.84.253] From: "Ben Ravilious" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Team Details Webpage Bug Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:57:22 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, Please note that there appears to be a problem with the BUF Team Contact Details entry page (Not a Y2K bug, some updates have been successfully made already this year). Sorry if the response page accused you of being a hacker!!! I will try to fix it at the weekend.... Unfortunately my home PC is knackered also so it may be a few days before I solve the problem. Please do NOT reply to this (Hotmail) address, use buf@ultimateweb.co.uk as usual. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 15:25:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA06733 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:22:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21760 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:38:04 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f136.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.136]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA17501 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:38:02 GMT Received: (qmail 12901 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jan 2000 14:37:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000113143725.12900.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.60.131.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:37:24 PST X-Originating-IP: [193.60.131.1] From: "Darroch Reid" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Want some free money? Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 06:37:24 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Is anyone going to GB practice, via the midlands? I live at Junction 3 of the M5, but could get somewhere easier. Quite happy to pay for petrol costs. How about it? Possum. 0121-331-5454 (w) 0121-422-5175 (h) p.s. Sorry about the misleading title, but if you could give me a lift then you get the money. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 15:58:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA21230 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:57:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21212 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:57:10 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05489 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:57:09 GMT Received: from p168-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.63] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 128XSZ-0000r3-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:45:52 +0000 Message-ID: <001801bf5d58$0fb52c20$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: RE: Officiating Ultimate Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:50:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF5D57.D91911E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF5D57.D91911E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David wrote: >14 players and 6 refs? >Only one word for that - Pick! Del wrote: >Paid referees at televised games is feasible.=20 If such a tournament was held then 6 refs per game would be ok. Not all = of them would have to be on the field of play. You would probably have 4 = based on the sidelines, 2 each side of the pitch operating along half = the side line, with the other 2 refs on the pitch. Ice Hockey (possibly = a faster sport than ultimate) has about 5 officials per game so I'm sure = 6 would not be that difficult. Paul wrote: >Do we need to make Ultimate TV friendly? I don't know about everyone = else,=20 >but I just play because I enjoy it, not to get on TV... It's not really a case of "Do we need to make Ultimate TV friendly?" as = most people who play currently don't care about being on TV but just = enjoy playing, I'm just the same when I get chance to. But sooner or = later ultimate will grow to a size where it will have more of a public = image and things like rosters, matching kits and so on will be an issue. = It's not about wanting it now but a situation where we are discussing = future possiblities, after all I don't want to be officiating = tournaments at the minute, I want to be playing in them. Matt ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF5D57.D91911E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David wrote:
 
>14 players and 6 refs?
>Only = one word for=20 that - Pick!
 
Del wrote:
 
>Paid referees at televised games is = feasible.=20
 
If such a tournament was held then 6 = refs per game=20 would be ok. Not all of them would have to be on the field of play. You = would=20 probably have 4 based on the sidelines, 2 each side of the pitch = operating along=20 half the side line, with the other 2 refs on the pitch. Ice Hockey = (possibly a=20 faster sport than ultimate) has about 5 officials per game so I'm sure 6 = would=20 not be that difficult.
 
 
Paul wrote:
 
>Do we need to make Ultimate TV = friendly? =20 I don't know about everyone else,
>but I just play because I = enjoy it,=20 not to get on TV...
 
 
It's not really a case of "Do we need = to make=20 Ultimate TV friendly?" as most people who play currently don't care = about being=20 on TV but just enjoy playing, I'm just the same when I get chance to. = But sooner=20 or later ultimate will grow to a size where it will have more of a = public image=20 and things like rosters, matching kits and so on will be an issue. It's = not=20 about wanting it now but a situation where we are discussing future=20 possiblities, after all I don't want to be officiating tournaments at = the=20 minute, I want to be playing in them.
 
Matt
 



 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BF5D57.D91911E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 17:11:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA15652 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:09:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15637 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:09:22 GMT Received: from chvpk-wss1.sr.chevron.com (cppat2.chevron.com [208.33.240.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05198 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:09:20 GMT X-Server-Uuid: 26fe3e76-19dd-11d3-be09-0008c7b1f151 Message-ID: <19F52E0DF38ED211865600805F31B8F9A32126@CAL-MSX2> From: "Batty, Ian (IBAT)" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Officiating Ultimate Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:06:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1460D91613143-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK, the guy in Canada has to respond to this one: > Ice Hockey (possibly a faster sport than ultimate) Definitely a faster sport than ultimate (but played over a smaller area) and just called "hockey" >has about 5 officials per game No. The normal scheme is 1 referee and 2 linesmen (or women) The NHL is trying to switch to a 2 referee system (on account of the fact that most NHL players are a) huge b) very good at getting away with things) but the 2 ref system is still experimental Cheers Batman (sometime Happy, always Strolling, now a Relic) ******************************************************** Ian Batty Chevron Canada Resources email: ibat@chevron.com tel: (403) 234-5282 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 17:26:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA20518 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:25:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20494 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:25:11 GMT From: w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk Received: from wwwnotes.rt-group.co.uk (mailgate.target-consulting.co.uk [193.195.187.10]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA19167 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:25:08 GMT Received: by wwwnotes.rt-group.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 80256865.005F9A5D ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:24:14 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ROBSON TAYLOR To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, gb_masters@listbot.com Message-ID: <80256865.005F8012.00@wwwnotes.rt-group.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:26:34 +0000 Subject: Stopwatches Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those coming to GB practice this weekend: If you have a stopwatch could you please bring it with you. I need 3 (but 6 would be better) and proper stopwatches would be better than watches. Thanks Wayne Davey From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 17:32:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA22809 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:31:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22768 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:31:21 GMT Received: from pp.dundee.ac.uk (pp.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.2.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08570 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:31:20 GMT Received: from dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk ([134.36.7.200]) by pp.dundee.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #2) id 128o5f-0006RF-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:31:19 +0000 Received: from DUNDEE-AS/SpoolDir by dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 13 Jan 100 17:31:19 +0 Received: from SpoolDir by DUNDEE-AS (Mercury 1.44); 13 Jan 100 17:31:10 +0 From: "Steve Morrish" Organization: Dundee University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:31:01 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Officiating X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just thought I'd get in my twopenny worth while the debate still rages on. Surely the whole edict of Ultimate is to do with the 'Spirit' of the game. This whole debate stinks of hankerings towards professionalism. If we get referees in, do we then professionalise the sport, meaning that there will be little if any chance of Joe Schmo competing with the very best in the world. Does Worlds then have two seperate categories, pros and amateurs, and will there then have to be pro-am tournies, where a pro team plays an amateur team. I don't know how many of you are familiar with the professionalisation of rugby, but that was totally pants, and has ruined club rugby at grass roots level. Look at the nonsense encountered on a day-to-day basis in football, where certain players seem able to influence referees decisions, and there is little if any fun to be seen. Is that the way that Ultimate wants to go? I kow that I took it up because of the fun, but also because it was refreshing to be able to play in a totally self- governing sport. If we take that away, we take the essence of the sport away. No longer will a sense of spirit be instilled in all the players. At the moment, the really big games, those played at Worlds and the like, do not suffer from a lack of referee, but instead are enhanced by it. I think I should shut up now, before I make any bigger a fool of myself. Please note that these thoughts are my own personal thoughts and feelings, and do not in any way reflect the thoughts or feelings in Shooting Stars (Dundee Uni Ultimate) or that of Scottish Ultimate as a whole. Steve Captain, Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 17:56:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA29752 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:55:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29730 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:55:09 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22687 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:55:06 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.231]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:53:40 +0000 Message-ID: <064801bf5def$2034ee90$e7f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: Subject: Re: Officiating Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:53:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk surely the whole debate boils down to - do we want to retain the game we all love - but see it remain the preserve of a few enlightened souls or do we try and make it large, corporate, financially-driven and visible to loads of people by the medium of TV. If you want the former - NO REFS, but the game grows slowly!! if you want the latter - you will need at least as many refs (or line observers) as american football, because so much action happens off the disc, but you get media coverage, more people start playing, it gains an element of respectablility. look at C4's worlds '95 coverage. Even with that huge overhead crane camera what did they cover - the guy with the disc, and the guy making a successful cut. The other 5 players were ignored, even though they might have been a vital part of the play. To be brutally honest, professional though it was (I could STILL do without the shot of adam's knackers), it in no way conveyed the speed and sheer energy of the game as I remember seeing it live. Most of us have seen top level games, a few have even played in top level games, and all of us have memories of games ruined by bullshit calls, bad spirit, bad attitudes. It was such a pleasure to see this years world final played with spirit and determination. However there was still one BS call made by the Americans, but it was the only one made in the whole game IIRC. It was nowhere near as bad as Redlights vs WSL (or, even worse anyone remember UTI vs Catch22 semi final Birmingham 1997?). It was the old joke "I went to a fight, and a game of Ultimate broke out". I just have a nasty feeling if money and TV coverage is introduced, the egos will land and spirit will drop as the desire to win increases. Then observers will become a necessity, IMHO. you have to decide what do you want, and then the best way to get there. Unfortunately, I don't think that there are many compromises. Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 18:00:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA01040 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:59:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01021 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:59:20 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23422 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:59:20 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 128oWl-0001Lb-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:59:19 +0000 Subject: London League 2000 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 00 18:01:06 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all Just for once, it seems we've started planning the London Summer League early enough. What we know so far: * It'll probably start late April * Teams will be co-ed this time (on-pitch ratio to be decided) * Games will probably be at Clapham and Regents Park again Now is as good a time as any to start thinking about forming teams and entering. If you are even the least bit interested in playing, please join the London League e-mail list now. Further information will be broadcast via the list only, to avoid clogging BritDisc. To join the London League list, point a web browser at: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/londonleague Alternatively, drop me an e-mail and I can subscribe you myself. Cheers Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 18:11:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA04599 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:10:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04587 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:10:48 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25551 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:10:48 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tne49372.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.13]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10274 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:10:46 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:10:46 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <200001131810.SAA10274@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB Women's Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk TO ALL THOSE WOMEN INTERESTED IN PLAYING FOR GB - GERMANY 2000 - AND/OR ATTENDING TRAINING SESSIONS. As Bliss are going to Gothenburg this weekend, unfortunately I won't be at GB practice on Saturday, hence this email. Since nobody has come forward to take on the role of GB Manager I have been approached by Sam Neilson (National Teams Co-ordinator) to start organising the GB women's squad for this years World Championships. I am keen to play with a competitive women's team at the Championships and if a core of experienced women, together with a number of newer talented players, are prepared to commit to playing women's as their first option I will happily take this on. However, if this is to happen, we need to get ourselves organised very soon. Prospective players will need to be training together regularly and a time schedule agreed for selection. At this stage, I would ask ALL WOMEN who are interested in playing GB and are prepared to make the commitment necessary (or who simply wish to attend practices) to mail me with the following details as soon as possible: NAME/CURRENT TEAM ADDRESS EMAIL CONTACT PHONE NUMBER LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE GB OR PRACTICE ONLY? Since not everybody has access to email, can you please copy this and pass it on to any interested parties. Thanks, Tara 63 Hertford Street Oxford OX4 3AL (01865) 726995 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 13 22:38:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA24575 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:37:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24555 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:37:04 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28089 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:37:04 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst378.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.54]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26972 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:36:32 GMT Message-ID: <387E5370.798C0D87@york.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:36:32 +0000 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Refereeing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'd rather ref than watch!!!!!!!! Jaimie Cross Yorkie Bar Kids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 14 00:50:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA26896 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:49:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26870 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:49:18 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05031 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:49:13 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 128uvO-0003X3-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:49:11 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:42:59 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Refereeing References: <387E5370.798C0D87@york.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <387E5370.798C0D87@york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk jbc102 writes >I'd rather ref than watch!!!!!!!! One would rather hope that the ref would be watching :) There's another catch... the Ultimate officials would probably have to be experienced players / spectators (there are a couple!) to know what was going on and for the players to respect their calls. Would *you* feel confident in your call, if you were an Observer at UK Nationals (I personally hope that Observers should never be necessary anywhere, but it's always a possibility...), and a more experienced and well-known player from a higher profile team were to question *your* knowledge of the rules in comparison to their own? Obviously, there's is the possibility of training officials that have never played / spectated before. Right? If the sport has the money, BEFORE the media and sponsorship deals roll in... Seems to me that the Goaltimate guy is taking big risks. He's winning at the moment, but still dealing with a fickle business... Wayne PS: Glad to see the old Wagstaff trick still works - mention Colin and a mostly sensible conversation about anything else breaks out! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 14 10:25:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA29304 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:24:13 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29297 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:24:10 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:24:10 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: WE STILL NEED YOU! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To: BritDisc [second posting] COME ON PEOPLE - I HAVE NOT EXACTLY BEEN SNOWED UNDER WITH RESPONSES ... MAYBE YOU ARE ALL PLANNING TO MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN IN ST ALBANS?! ... I HOPE SO, OTHERWISE WE WILL BE STRUGGLING TO SEND *ANY* TEAMS TO GERMANY. The newly formed GB Ultimate management team, made up of five Divisional Managers (DMs) and the General Manager (GM) will need the help of a number of volunteers if the WUGC 2000 campaign is to be a success. As I outlined in my submission to Laura and the BUF Executive some months ago, I believe we will need maybe three or four extra volunteers to sort out administrative tasks: Adminstrator x 'N' ------------ The role of each administrator is to ensure the smooth running of their designated area of logistical support, liaising closely with the GM and relevant members of the BUF Executive. The GM, on behalf of the six-person management team, may seek volunteer administrators to support a wide range of tasks which are indirectly linked with the selection, preparation and performance of the National Ultimate Teams, including such areas as: booking and publicity of practice sessions; tournament registration; financial arrangements; travel and transport; playing kit; and sponsorship. So, taking those areas in the order listed, here are the jobs that we NEED YOUR HELP with: 1) booking and publicity of practice sessions To be handled by the DMs (with some help from their friends). [MANY THANKS TO NANCY FOR STEPPING FORWARD TO HELP ON THIS!] 2) tournament registration To be co-ordinated by the GM. 3) financial arrangements [VOLUNTEER NEEDED ... URGENTLY] We will need someone to co-ordinate the money side of the WUGC 2000 campaign - this is likely to include some or all of the following: practice facility bookings; team registration; player registration; transport booking; team kit orders; insurance; sponsorship monies. The nature of this role means they would have to be in close contact with lots of different people: 5+1 management team; the other administrators; BUF officers etc. [Someone has been approached about this, but it is not yet confirmed]. 4) travel and transport [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] It would be good if someone looked into the various travel options (flights, trains, coach) and made some recommendations about whether it would be cost effective to arrange group travel to Heilbronn. As I think Patch will testify, this can be quite an involved process, but the benefits for such a large group would make it worthwhile. This person might also investigate travel insurance options. 5) playing kit [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] Again, it would be good to have one person to look after this. Ideally they could organise a design competition while shopping around to get the best value for money. Shirts & shorts (with numbers) are probably the minimum requirements, but tracksuits might be a possibility - this person would keep in close contact with whoever is looking into sponsorship opportunities ... 6) sponsorship [VOLUNTEER NEEDED] If a volunteer could be found with experience of securing sponsorship for sports teams, that would be superb. There are many types of sponsorship deals: product only; cash donations; gender specific; age specific; and even individual sponsors. It would be good if the same person could look into the group possibilities as well as advising individuals about how they could strike their own deals. This volunteer ought to keep in close contact with DMs and also work with the BUF Publicity Officer, especially with promotional material and press releases. PLEASE DON'T BE SHY! With five Ultimate squads plus some Guts players, this will be the largest GB contingent ever to venture abroad to represent their country at a World or European disc championships - we need your assistance to make this goal a reality! Could anyone interested in helping out in any of the above roles, please contact me for more details. Cheers Sam Neilson GB General Manager. 20 Alexandra Court Priory Road Kenilworth CV8 1SB H: 01926 864 276 [evenings + answerphone] E: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 14 13:51:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA10526 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:48:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10505 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:48:45 GMT Received: from seralph10.essex.ac.uk (seralph10.essex.ac.uk [155.245.240.160]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22610 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:48:45 GMT Received: from [155.245.217.202] (helo=bsv002) by seralph10.essex.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 12975o-0007Fd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:48:44 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Sasha Dall" To: "britdisc \(E-mail\)" Subject: lift to GB training Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:48:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf5e96$119efa40$cad9f59b@essex.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there space for a little one in anyone's car going from London (centralish) to St Albans tomorrow morning? Sasha -------------------------------------------------- Department of Biological Sciences John Tabor Laboratories University of Essex Colchester, CO4 3SQ, UK Tel: +44 1206 873769 Fax: +1 240 368 8208 Email: SashaDall@iname.com Voicemail: +1 240 368 8208 -------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jan 15 17:24:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA17206 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:22:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17197 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:22:46 GMT Received: from manhattan.cyberphile.co.uk (manhattan.cyberphile.co.uk [194.143.181.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27890 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:22:44 GMT Received: (qmail 44175 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2000 17:23:19 -0000 Received: from cmax60.cyberphile.co.uk (HELO blofeld) (195.224.209.60) by manhattan.cyberphile.co.uk with SMTP; 15 Jan 2000 17:23:19 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf5f7c$eaeac0e0$3cd1e0c3@cyberphile.co.uk> From: "phil cooper" To: Subject: Balti from BAF Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:21:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF5F7C.EA6DA1A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF5F7C.EA6DA1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Has anyone got Balti's from BAF e-mail address=20 Thanks Phil Slipdisc ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF5F7C.EA6DA1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF5F7C.EA6DA1A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 16 20:10:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA16656 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:08:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16649 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:08:05 GMT Received: from smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net (smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net [212.1.128.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16673 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:08:05 GMT Received: from ppp-11b-53.3com.telinco.net ([212.159.149.53] helo=bonkers) by smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #7) id 129vy0-000Aek-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:08:05 +0000 From: "steve henderson" To: Subject: North East England Ultimate Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:13:27 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Disposition-Notification-To: "steve henderson" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone there? Myself and a couple of others are trying to find others in and around Newcastle for practices and hopefully to start a team. We are also looking at starting teams in the Newcastle and Sunderland universities. The number of ultimate players between leeds and Edinburgh is shockingly low, with only a Durham University student team (which is coming on fabulously well, with great new talent and great team spirit) and a new youth team started with the huge enthusiasm of Martin Mullen. If there is anyone there who has played before, who wants to play, or who knows of other frustrated North East players, if they could please get in touch with me. e-mail stevenhenderson@currantbun.com phone 07718 076688 Thanks in advance Steven Henderson (also writing on behalf of Gillon Campbell" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 17 07:49:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA08355 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:47:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08347 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:47:03 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10036 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA01175 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200001170747.HAA01175@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 22nd January 2000 BDGA Golf - Elthorne Classic (1 day) @ Ealing, London [Golf] Contact The Bongos [Rich;Spen;Frank the Hat] Phone 020 8568 5883 Saturday 5th February 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cannons Health Club, Leicester [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date. Contact Ruth Taylor Email Ruth.Taylor@bass.com Phone 07808 095621 (mobile) Newport Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Newport, Wales [Indoor Ultimate] Max 16 teams. Entry fee: GBP 80.00 payable to Wayne Retter, sent to Neil Travers. NB Second team entries will not be accepted until Jan 17. Contact Neil Travers Address 5 Cross Road Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 2UQ Email druid@dreamer.demon.co.uk Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Open Doubles (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 17 10:46:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA19365 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:44:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19348 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:44:10 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01686 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:42:41 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.231]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:40:47 +0000 Message-ID: <002501bf60d7$49d145b0$e7f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:40:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk to all britdiscers yes pardon me while I take my foot from my mouth. Of course it was catch vs gun. The only defence I can offer is than for the last couple of years it's been "who's in the final oh catch v UTI". What can I say, as you get older the memory starts going. Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 17 12:26:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA27188 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:21:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27161 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:21:33 GMT Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00261 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:21:29 GMT Message-Id: <200001171221.MAA00261@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:15:02 -0000 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: britdisc Subject: Month 1 of Training Programme Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:22:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA27173 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At GB practice several expressed interest in seeing a copy of Month 1 of the Training Programme. Here is Month 1. May I re-iterate that Month 1 has to be done before you start month 2. If you start month 2 without adequate preparation you run the risk of injury. N.B. Some of ballistics session has been altered. Here it is: The preseason period is where you will get all your improvements in speed and athleticism. You cannot expect to make substantial gains in the season itself because of all the complications of team practices and tournaments. The Pre-season lasts 17 weeks from 13/12/99 through to Tour 1 The 17 weeks is split into 4 months. Month 1 13 December - 14 Jan Month 2 15 Jan - 11 Feb Month 3 12 Feb - 10 Mar Month 4 11 Mar - 8 Apr Each month's programme will be handed out at GB practice. Saves confusion and information overload. Month 1 Basic Training Strength training Ballistics Month 2 Basic Training Strength training Ballistics Plyometrics Month 3 Basic Training Strength training Ballistics Plyometrics Sport Loading Speed Endurance Month 4 Basic Training Strength training Ballistics Plyometrics Sport Loading Speed Endurance Overspeed Training If you are late starting this programme, you need to run it from the start. Do not jump months. WARNING Some of this programme, especially latter parts, subject your body to considerable strain. Therefore you should take every reasonable care whilst carrying out these exercises. Weights sessions are best carried out in gyms where trained personnel will be able to help you carry out the programme. All exercises should be carried out after a thorough warm up. Do not exercise hard when you are feeling drained. Measure your heart rate when you wake up. An unexpected rise will indicate that you are coming down with a bug. This is a signal to take it easy! a. Prepare your aerobic system · Increase the number of training sessions to at least 4 per week (including ultimate sessions) by the end of the month Avoid making these sessions hard, especially at the start! Over the month, gently increase length of each session from 20 mins to 40 mins · The Basic session below is an ideal starting point. Try to vary the surface on which you train. The Basic Session 1. Light jog for 1/2 mile 2. Then stride until you are freely perspiring, with your body temperature noticably increasing by a couple of degrees. 3. Light stretch 4. Intervals of: Walk - jog - stride - sprint - decellerate - walk (10 seconds each) 5. Light jog 6. Stretch b. Identify your weaknesses / areas prone to injury · prepare your areas prone to injury. · Get specialist advice from a physiotherapist or sports injury clinic on how to cure the niggles that could prevent you from training. One major contributor to knee injury is a muscle imbalance between the Quadracep and Hamstring. Most of our quads are too strong for the Hamstring. Get to your Gym and after a very thorough warm up, measure your 1RM (this is explained later) leg extension (quad) and leg curl (hammy) for each leg. If you cannot curl 80% of your extension, your hammy is too weak. One of the best exercises for strengthening the Hamstring is Backwards running. Plan some into every session if this is a weakness. The hammy will also be strengthened through leg curl exercise and use of specialist gym equipment (nautilus) c. Increase the strength of key muscle groups Try to incorporate 1, increasing to 2, weight training sessions into your week. These will concentrate on increasing strength in key areas for Ultimate: (leg, trunk, shoulder) When training, work slowly through the whole Range Of Motion. Concentrate on maintaining good posture If you are short of time, concentrate on doing Just Legs or just Abdomen after a good warm up. The Weights Session Warm up (Basic Session, if time allows) Leg Press quad, butt Knee Extention quad Knee Flexion / Leg curl hamstring Heel Raises calf Crunch with twist 30:25:20 abdomen no weights required Trunk Rotation 5 in each direction medicine ball or 2-4 kg weight Warm down (light jog and stretch) Crunch and Trunk Rotation explained: Crunch with twist shorten the distance between your lowest rib and pelvis just lifting the small of your back up off the ground. Sit ups just work the hip flexors. So do the early part not the late part of the sit up. At maximum crunch (ie minimum distance between pelvis and rib) introduce the twist. Do reducing sets of 30, 25 and 20 Trunk Rotation Sit on the floor, legs out in front of you. Place 2-4 kg weight or ideally Medicine Ball behind your back. Rotate anticlockwise pick up the "object" rotate clockwise placing the object behind your back. Put it down and repeat the exercise. Do 3 sets of 5 in each direction. This exercise is designed to increase your hip strength on the pull/huck In this programme, carry out each of the weights exercises 3 times with 1 minutes rest between sets 1. at 60% of your maximum for 10 repetitions then 2. at 65% of your maximum for 8 repetitions then 3. at 70 % of your maximum for 6 repetitions These percentages should be identified by the following process: 1. Using weights machines (not free weights) Find the maximum weight you can lift for each exercise for ONE REPETITION 2. Move up to your maximum carefully in 5 kg increments 3. Rest a couple of mins between each attempt 4. Be careful not to "Lock Out" (ie: always have a slight bend in elbow or knee) on these very BIG lifts 5. The biggest weight succesfully lifted is your 1RM or One Repeat Maximum 6. The 60% identified in the programme is 60% of your 1RM d. Prepare your body for lots of jumping through ballistics training Next month you will start on a programme of Plyometrics. In order to prepare for the demands of these exercises you will need to start doing some more advanced warm ups before you play ultimate. Every time you play ultimate, do these exercises after you have warmed up. Use 2 lines 25 yards apart marked by cones (ie: the back and front of a full size endzone) Jog to line - carioca (sideways twisty run) back - repeat 3 times Jog to line - pivot/lunge from backhand to sidearm 5 times - repeat 3 times Jog to line - 123 jump 123 jump taking off of alternate legs - jog back - repeat 3 times Jog to line - bound back - jog to line - repeat 3 times Jog to line - to return, sprint backwards - repeat 3 times Jog to line - butt kickers back - repeat 3 times Jog to line - crab 3 steps left then 3 steps right . Do this 5 times reaching out as if to point block - repeat 3 times This is a very important 10 minutes worth of work. Persuade your club to do these at the beginning of each practice. Summary Your progression during your first month should look something like this Week 1 2 Basic sessions + 1 complete weights session + ballistics before ultimate Week 2 3 Basic sessions + 1 complete weights session + ballistics before ultimate Week 3 3 Basic Sessions + 2 complete weights sessions + ballistics before ultimate Week 4 4 Basic Sessions + 2 complete weights sessions + ballistics before ultimate By the end of the month your programme could look like this: Before work lunch After work Mon basic ultimate incl' ballistics Tues basic Wed basic / weights Thurs Fri basic / weights Sat Sun ultimate incl' ballistics Any queries can be addressed to me: Paul Unwin punwin@grantham.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 17 17:48:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA25777 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:45:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25759 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:45:47 GMT Received: from ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk (ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk [130.88.210.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10909 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:45:47 GMT Received: from ccg.acu.man.ac.uk ([130.88.17.200]) by ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 12AGDq-00088g-00; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:45:47 +0000 Received: from ccMail by ccg.acu.man.ac.uk (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25) id AA948131174; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:46:17 GMT Message-Id: <0001179481.AA948131174@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:45:14 GMT From: "Rob Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oops. Last year the Tour and Nationals saw Catch and UTI contest only 2 finals from a possible 6. The idea is to remove the foot BEFORE speaking, Paul. love Rob Chevron > to all britdiscers > > yes pardon me while I take my foot from my mouth. > > Of course it was catch vs gun. > > The only defence I can offer is than for the last > couple of years > it's been "who's in the final oh catch v UTI". What can I > say, as you get > older the memory starts going. > > > Paul > --- > Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 18 11:21:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA28339 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28277 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:30 GMT Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27162 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:28 GMT Received: from modem-110.aluminum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.6.110] helo=bigeasy) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12AWSw-00060b-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:26 +0000 Message-ID: <008001bf61a3$8e8b98a0$0e47883e@bigeasy> From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: <0001179481.AA948131174@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> Subject: Re: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:02:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Oops. > > Last year the Tour and Nationals saw Catch and UTI contest only 2 finals from a > possible 6. > > say, as you get > > older the memory starts going. and the short- term memory even worse!!! although that can be attributed to other factors...... Paul (I don't think I've said anything particularly stupid just yet) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 18 18:42:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA22329 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:40:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22317 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:40:39 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24455 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:40:39 GMT Received: from p133-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.28] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12AdSA-0000au-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:34:06 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01bf61e3$7f57e380$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "britdisc" References: <200001171221.MAA00261@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: East Midlands Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:39:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm trying to start a team based in Loughborough and am a bit short of numbers. I was wondering if there are any Ultimate players out there without a team currently that would be interested in playing. We are hoping to enter the tour and players of any level are welcome. I realise most people will already play for Red or Superfly but if there is anyone else about we would be really glad to have them along, it's about time loughborough had a team all year round, then I wouldn't have to travel to get a game ;-) Please get in touch if your interested and if you know of anyone not on this list that may be then please pass this on. Thanks in advance, Matt PS. My address should be on the BUF web site under Charnwood Sunz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 18 19:39:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA06707 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:38:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06693 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:38:52 GMT Received: from besson.vip.uk.com (besson.vip.uk.com [194.176.202.250]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28714 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:38:51 GMT Received: from modem-220-1-60-62.vip.uk.com ([62.60.1.220] helo=dsorvtwg) by besson.vip.uk.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12AeSr-0002Qc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:38:53 +0000 From: "bex" To: Subject: Dan at Village Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:38:05 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anybody have a contacy for Dan Elloway - Village People, or any Vilaage People contacts generally. Cheers - Bex From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 00:11:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA00998 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:10:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00975 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:10:16 GMT Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA13230 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:10:16 GMT Received: (qmail 759 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2000 00:10:14 -0000 Received: from userbg77.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.142.197) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 19 Jan 2000 00:10:14 -0000 Message-ID: <008a01bf6211$d73983a0$c58ebc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: References: <0001179481.AA948131174@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> <008001bf61a3$8e8b98a0$0e47883e@bigeasy> Subject: Re: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:11:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't read BD so often these days - but every now and again I check it out. Its nice to be in such exalted company as WSL! I want to shout at you, Paul, for slagging my team, but I'll refrain. I'm quite proud that a game we played over two years ago merits a mention though! That was a big game for us - although we did lose. There are so many things I can think of to say about all this - but I think its pretty obvious that ultimate players on the whole don't want refs. For those new folks who haven't seen the discussions before, something called the NUA tried to TV-ise ultimate a couple of years ago with the use of refs and a few other rule changes (several of which have now been incorporated into ultimate I've my memory serves me correctly). If you can find all the chat on rec.sports.disc, Britdisc and Eurodisc it may make interesting reading. What the hell has happened with NUA - is it still going, or did it die out because its so hard to find 6 refs for every game?! Incidentally, I've always thought that if you could hear what players were saying to each other during a dispute I think it would make great TV. Enough. Si no team ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Meaney To: Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: Re: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" > > > Oops. > > > > Last year the Tour and Nationals saw Catch and UTI contest only 2 finals > from a > > possible 6. > > > > say, as you get > > > older the memory starts going. > > > and the short- term memory even worse!!! > > although that can be attributed to other factors...... > > Paul (I don't think I've said anything particularly stupid just yet) > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 00:47:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA20125 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:46:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20114 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:46:45 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14814 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:46:44 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12AjGj-000Crf-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:46:42 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:28:31 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: East Midlands References: <200001171221.MAA00261@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> <001d01bf61e3$7f57e380$a69cfea9@user> In-Reply-To: <001d01bf61e3$7f57e380$a69cfea9@user> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Matthew Lowe writes > I'm trying to start a team based in Loughborough and am a bit short of >numbers. I was wondering if there are any Ultimate players out there without >a team currently that would be interested in playing. What happened to the Uni team? I've forgotten their name, but I'm sure there *was* one (within the last 5 years...) Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 05:32:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id FAA17804 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:31:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17798 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:30:59 GMT Received: from dme2.dme.wa.gov.au ([202.0.15.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA23642 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:30:53 GMT Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dme2.dme.wa.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA15896 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:14:37 +0800 Received: from perexc73.dme.wa.gov.au(172.16.51.73) by dme2 via smap (V1.3) id sma015880; Wed Jan 19 13:14:09 2000 Received: by PEREXC73.dme.wa.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:28:11 +0800 Message-ID: <45A2A4EFAD48D311ABDC0000F6CD419259FA01@PEREXC74.dme.wa.gov.au> From: "GREENFIELD, John" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Australian Nationals 2000 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:28:07 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi can you forward the following message to britdisc please: The Australian Ultimate Championships 2000 will be held in Perth, Western Australia, April 21-24th. This will be a 1st class tournament in a great laid-back city with fine sunny weather. There will be Open and Women divisions. There is open eligibility to foreign teams and players. For more info check out: http://www.general.uwa.edu.au/u/cwarris/home.htm Pick-up travellers please register online at the above site. cya there LTB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 10:56:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA02275 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:54:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02267 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:54:46 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f128.hotmail.com [216.32.181.128]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA04690 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:54:45 GMT Received: (qmail 42715 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jan 2000 10:54:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20000119105412.42714.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.140.175.104 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 02:54:12 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.140.175.104] From: "alex house" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: searching hi &lo Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:54:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Id love to know if any of you disc heads out there pl ay in Richmond Park or any west london spaces .Im dying to get aregular game, why's it so damn cliquey in London? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 11:28:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13624 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:25:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13613 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:25:26 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09908 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:25:25 GMT Received: from clpc33.york.ac.uk (clpc33.york.ac.uk [144.32.66.39]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05712 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:24:51 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:24:50 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: Catherine Walker To: BritDisc Subject: Re: East Midlands In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Wayne Retter wrote: > Matthew Lowe writes > > I'm trying to start a team based in Loughborough and am a bit short of > >numbers. I was wondering if there are any Ultimate players out there without > >a team currently that would be interested in playing. > > What happened to the Uni team? > > I've forgotten their name, but I'm sure there *was* one (within the last > 5 years...) They're called Purple Haze, and they're doing quite well at the moment- I think they qualified for the Midland indoor student regionals. So they're definately out there. I don't know their email address but I do know a chap who plays for them and I'm sure you could contact them via him... Luke - L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk He's a helpful sort of chap. Catherine <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> There are some days when being able to spell Tuesday just doesn't count. -Rabbit <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 11:40:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA19308 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:38:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19299 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:38:53 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12241 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:38:52 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:38:37 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:34:56 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: searching hi &lo Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:34:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk why's it so damn cliquey in London? Probably to keep out people who call themselves Disc Heads! London Summer League will be in Clapham again this year. Contact Paul Hurt for details [paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk]. Tooting on Mondays is currently full > -----Original Message----- > From: alex house [SMTP:alex_house@hotmail.com] > Sent: 19 January 2000 10:54 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: searching hi &lo > > Hi, > Id love to know if any of you disc heads out there pl > ay in Richmond Park or any west london spaces .Im dying to get aregular > game, why's it so damn cliquey in London? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 11:46:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA21799 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:45:10 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21711 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:44:51 GMT Received: from cobalt3-he.global.net.uk (cobalt3-he.global.net.uk [195.147.246.163]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22867 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:44:44 GMT Received: from p37s13a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.173.56] helo=richie) by cobalt3-he.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12AtWu-0002pu-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 03:44:04 -0800 Message-ID: <001c01bf6274$e58091c0$38ad93c3@richie> From: "Richie" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Pete from Headrush Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:59:56 -0000 Organization: Hebrides Survey Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for the clutter Looking for Pete from Headrush, anyone got contact info for him? Richie aka Splitter BAF22 ____________________________________________________ Richie Smart Tel: +44 (0)1488 685472 Hebrides Survey Services Ltd Mobile: +44 (0)7879 441367 40 Cherry Grove E-mail: Richie@hebrides.co.uk Hungerford Web: http://www.hebrides.co.uk Berkshire, UK RG17 OHP ____________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by McAfee VirusScan System http://www.nai.com ____________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 12:24:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA07577 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:22:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07554 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:22:44 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01121 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:22:42 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id NAA25594; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:22:05 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma025588; Wed, 19 Jan 00 13:22:06 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id NAA23947; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:22:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id NAA17175; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:22:02 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900006501361; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:23:59 +0100 To: , , Cc: Subject: Nothing (Interesting) Goes Home - Winter Trophy 2000 Message-ID: <0056900006501361000002L012*@MHS> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:23:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 01/19/00 13:20:13" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA07567 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well then, Hello Brit disc, Just a quickish mail following Bliss's sucesses in Copenhagen (team Tara,Laura, Hannah, Terri, Nicole,Lucy and Claire P)where they won spirit as well as the tournament against Swedish opposition Carnigie, last weekend saw the girls travel to Gothenburg for an expected rematch. Just a little to let every one know about what happened in Gothenburg. some bits are taken from a write up of Wayne Retter. ranked in order of accomplishment, Bliss (Tara, Laura, Hannah, Terri, Nicole and Maria); Druids (Adam, Jeff, Wayne, Dave W, Iain, Jamie and "Wrong" Jon) and Hammerage (Ian and Nancy, Zaid, Simon Norris, Dave Eastman, A.N.Other) Write up on Bliss Bliss blitzed the opposition on the Saturday- running their opposition (always of much greater numbers) ragged and generally getting things to work. BLISS in pool of 4: 10:55 W 11-07 Bliss - Skogshyddan This game felt like hard work in the beginning, with the Bliss team learning to play indoors together. But once a lead was established we pulled away for a convincing win. 13:00 W 11-06 Bliss - Stovner This was the only team we played that also only had 6 players. The game was relatively straight forward. 15:20 W 11-07 Bliss - Espoo In this game we really started to shine, we came out hard and fast in both D & O. Espoo really didn't know how to stop us... unfortunately Maria sustained twisted knee, and although she played the rest of the game it put her out for all but 4 points on the Sunday. BLISS in "quarters" semis and finals: 09:10 W ??-?? Bliss - Stockholm 11:05 W 13-12 Bliss - Carnegie 13:30 L 12-13 Bliss - Espoo We played quarters, semi's and finals on the Sunday, mostly Iron Man. The first game against the Stolkholm team is not really worth that much of a mention, as the spirit was dubious. The semi against Carnegie was hard fort, we knew that Carnegie are never going to give up it was going to be a fight to the end. Everyone did something that little bit special in this game...a lay out D by me in the zone, Terri fighting (and getting body checked a number of times for the disc)but grabing the disc with confidence, Laura and Nicole s throws were near perfect, and finally on the final point a diving catch in the zone by Tara, to win in sudden death! The final was hard, Espoo came out strong and we ran with them for a while, but we were tired...and Espoo pulled away. When the score reached 11- 8 Espoo, we seemed to find some energy from somewhere..(I don't know where)with a couple of good hard D, bringing us back to 11-10. Terri then stormed through on the first pass of the point taking Espoo by suprise and macking the D close to our endzone, which was converted for a score. 11-11. Again we get the D, and score.11-12 Bliss our first lead of the game, game to 13.... Unfortunatly we were not used to starting on O for the last part of the game. Espoo brought the score back to 12-12. Espoo finally won after eventually breaking our endzone - zone. I would just like to say that I am a bad looser, but it did not feel like we lost this game we played well, with a squad exactly half the size of Espoo. As Wayne said" Their finals appearance and performance, whilst not entirely unexpected, is deserving of that additional touch of respect." Waynes comments:- It appears to me that, especially in the women's divisions, there's a definite change in the Scando supremacy leagues - Swedish teams seem to be loosing their touch, and the Fins have not been hesitant in stepping forward to fill those spaces. There also seems to be a level of shock that a British team (unruly, undisciplined, untrained - and uninhibited) can waltz in and wreak havoc. Druids Sorry, not so much information. Druids - Carnegie As a spectator of this game I would like to say, why oh why did you go 8-1 down!!, the come back was fantastic...a pleasure to watch...with a final score of 11-13 but well played! Since Carnengie only beat Liquidisc by 2 points in the final, Druid should feel vindicated that had they reached the final it would have been a close fort thing. Unfortuantly the pool games put an end this specualtion being founded. Druids Pancake - Comfortably Again as Wayne put" Hooray (and silent prayers of thanks?!) Maybe we've sorted our lives out. It's a pleasant feeling to end the day on a cheerful note and we're less likely to get really, badly, horribly, MORBIDLY Drunk." A big thankyou to the Druids for all their support, I know you kept me going in the final. Thanks again to all who supported us A recovering slowly Hannah (Bliss) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 16:53:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA07864 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:51:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07831 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:51:51 GMT Received: from gateway.ismuk.com (root@[195.238.168.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17543 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:51:45 GMT Received: from workstation12.ismuk.com (workstation12.ismuk.com [10.0.0.15]) by gateway.ismuk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA32721 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:51:06 GMT Reply-To: From: "Lucy" To: Subject: Calling Jon Hope Urgently Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:49:58 -0000 Message-ID: <615CEE1FC07BD211AA50204C4F4F50200A4E1E@NETSERVER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jon, could you please get in touch pretty quickly about Worlds. Either e-mail or call me at work on 0181 879 5000 or at home on 0181 677 3477 after 9ish tonight. This is a great opportunity for Ultimate...... BUF bods - If Jon's away at the moment could someone from the BUF get in touch asap instead. Many thanks. Loose BAF 25 Lucy Goggin From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 20:06:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA24460 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24446 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:07 GMT Received: from cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.176]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03298 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:06 GMT Received: from modem78.hulk.pol.co.uk ([195.92.6.78] helo=nicky) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12B1Le-0003DX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:04:58 +0000 Message-ID: <001001bf62b8$08d5d840$4e065cc3@nicky> From: "Nicky Smith" To: "britdisc" Subject: GB Sponsorship Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:57:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF62B7.774F82E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF62B7.774F82E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a request to all ultimate players, to assist in gaining = sponsorship for the GB squad for The World Championships. I need to hear = from anyone who works for/has links with companies that might be = prepared to sponsor GB this year. The extent of sponsorship can range = from supplying equipment, flights & kit to sponsoring the entire squad, = or simply a couple of hundred towards the whole. Not sure yet what sort = of money's needed but, suffice to say,more is better. I have a template (graciously supplied by Dave Trovell) letter that I = can email to you as an attachment (MSWord), for you to adapt to your = purposes and am working on getting a nice colourful one on the net. = Please contact me if you have any leads. I thought particularly good = sources might be airline companies (BA, Virgin, etc), and also = established travel & sport websites (Ebookers, Lastminute.com, etc). Any ideas or experiences from previous sponsorship coordinators or = anyone else would be very much appreciated. Colin (Sickboy) Smith previously Lurkers, Sharks & Kniggets Currently looking for a team Work Tel: 0171 531 3159 Home Tel: 0181 669 5464 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF62B7.774F82E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is a request to all ultimate = players, to=20 assist in gaining sponsorship for the GB squad for The World = Championships. I=20 need to hear from anyone who works for/has links with companies that = might be=20 prepared to sponsor GB this year. The extent of sponsorship can range = from=20 supplying equipment, flights & kit to sponsoring the entire squad, = or simply=20 a couple of hundred towards the whole. Not sure yet what sort of money's = needed=20 but, suffice to say,more is better.
 
I have a template (graciously supplied = by Dave=20 Trovell) letter that I can email to you as an attachment (MSWord), for = you to=20 adapt to your purposes and am working on getting a nice colourful one on = the=20 net. Please contact me if you have any leads. I thought particularly = good=20 sources might be airline companies (BA, Virgin, etc), and also = established=20 travel & sport websites (Ebookers, Lastminute.com, = etc).
 
Any ideas or experiences from previous = sponsorship coordinators or anyone else would be very much=20 appreciated.
 
Colin (Sickboy) Smith
previously Lurkers, Sharks &=20 Kniggets
Currently looking for a = team
Work Tel: 0171 531 3159
Home Tel: 0181 669=20 5464
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF62B7.774F82E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 20:06:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA24494 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24451 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:07 GMT Received: from cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.176]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28010 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:07 GMT Received: from modem78.hulk.pol.co.uk ([195.92.6.78] helo=nicky) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12B1Lg-0003DX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:05:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001101bf62b8$0a027160$4e065cc3@nicky> From: "Nicky Smith" To: "britdisc" Subject: John Hope Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:59:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF62B7.A2EAD760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF62B7.A2EAD760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Can you let me know the address of your publicity web site please. Cheers Colin Smith Work Tel:0171 531 3159 Home Tel: 0181 669 5464 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF62B7.A2EAD760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,
 
Can you let me know the address of = your=20 publicity web site please.
 
Cheers
Colin Smith
Work Tel:0171 531 3159
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF62B7.A2EAD760-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 19 23:59:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA08053 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:58:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08046 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:57:59 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10753 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:57:59 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12B4z7-000O26-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:57:58 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:17:14 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: the NUA... References: <0001179481.AA948131174@ccg.acu.man.ac.uk> <008001bf61a3$8e8b98a0$0e47883e@bigeasy> <008a01bf6211$d73983a0$c58ebc3e@oemcomputer> In-Reply-To: <008a01bf6211$d73983a0$c58ebc3e@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si and/or Jack writes >What the hell has happened with NUA - is it still going, or did it die out I alluded to this question, too. r.s.d. doesn't seem to mention it any more (though I stopped reading for a fair while and haven't checked archives) Anyone got any *knowledge* - Aram? Steve Young (I know you're out there!)? Was there something unforseen that went horribly wrong? Can the potentially snowballing UK ultimate scene learn something from this? Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 20 00:17:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA12488 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:16:42 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12456 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:16:40 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19330 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:16:40 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12B5HD-000DVW-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:16:40 +0000 Subject: Re: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 00 00:18:31 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >What the hell has happened with NUA - is it still going, or did it die out >because its so hard to find 6 refs for every game?! I heard that they ran out of organisational steam with the idea. But it had kind of done its job anyway, waking people up to other possibilities. See WFDF rule changes. > >Incidentally, I've always thought that if you could hear what players were >saying to each other during a dispute I think it would make great TV. Yup. That bit in the Channel 4 prog where they've wired up Jon Gewirtz so you can hear what he's saying is great. Though if it really went off, the guy adding bleeps would have to work overtime. Is it possible players would behave BETTER if televised? It'd be pretty embarassing to have an entire television audience hear you really lose it on-pitch. Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt Editor, Ultimatum paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 20 11:52:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13509 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:48 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13502 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:46 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23718 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:49:45 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:44:42 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:47:49 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E4C1@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:47:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think that the only reason Si Hill would like players to be heard during the game is because he views it as his route into the world of stand up comedy. Chris (having been on the wrong end Si's quick witted humour many a time) > ---------- > From: Paul Hurt[SMTP:paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 20 January 2000 00:18 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Re: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" > > >What the hell has happened with NUA - is it still going, or did it die > out > >because its so hard to find 6 refs for every game?! > > I heard that they ran out of organisational steam with the idea. But it > had kind of done its job anyway, waking people up to other possibilities. > See WFDF rule changes. > > > > >Incidentally, I've always thought that if you could hear what players > were > >saying to each other during a dispute I think it would make great TV. > > Yup. That bit in the Channel 4 prog where they've wired up Jon Gewirtz so > you can hear what he's saying is great. Though if it really went off, the > guy adding bleeps would have to work overtime. > > Is it possible players would behave BETTER if televised? It'd be pretty > embarassing to have an entire television audience hear you really lose it > on-pitch. > > Paul > > > > --------------------------------- > Paul Hurt > > Editor, Ultimatum > paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 20 12:00:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA17768 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:59:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17755 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:59:47 GMT Received: from relay2.bt.net (picnic.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.6.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04075 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:59:47 GMT Received: from zeppo.locum-destination.com ([62.6.144.242]) by relay2.bt.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 12BGF3-00049d-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:59:09 +0000 Received: by zeppo.locum-destination.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:59:05 -0000 Message-ID: <89F78A2D3E73D311BA6400A0C9DCE60906122D@zeppo.locum-destination.com> From: Sean Young To: BritDisc Subject: RE: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:58:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA17761 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm sure Si's past team mates would tell you that 'Quick' and 'wit' are not words one would normally associate with Si! Seán -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] Sent: 20 January 2000 11:48 To: BritDisc Subject: RE: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" I think that the only reason Si Hill would like players to be heard during the game is because he views it as his route into the world of stand up comedy. Chris (having been on the wrong end Si's quick witted humour many a time) > ---------- > From: Paul Hurt[SMTP:paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 20 January 2000 00:18 > To: BritDisc > Subject: Re: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" > > >What the hell has happened with NUA - is it still going, or did it die > out > >because its so hard to find 6 refs for every game?! > > I heard that they ran out of organisational steam with the idea. But it > had kind of done its job anyway, waking people up to other possibilities. > See WFDF rule changes. > > > > >Incidentally, I've always thought that if you could hear what players > were > >saying to each other during a dispute I think it would make great TV. > > Yup. That bit in the Channel 4 prog where they've wired up Jon Gewirtz so > you can hear what he's saying is great. Though if it really went off, the > guy adding bleeps would have to work overtime. > > Is it possible players would behave BETTER if televised? It'd be pretty > embarassing to have an entire television audience hear you really lose it > on-pitch. > > Paul > > > > --------------------------------- > Paul Hurt > > Editor, Ultimatum > paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 20 12:07:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA19910 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:05:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19890 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:04:59 GMT Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25135 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:04:57 GMT Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with SMTP id <115226>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:05:30 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id HAA16353; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:04:16 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05972; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:04:41 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:07:04 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C59@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: officiiating - Gun vs Catch "Rumble In 'Brum" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:05:29 -0500 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sean wrote: > I'm sure Si's past team mates would tell you that 'Quick' and 'wit' > are not words one would normally associate with Si! It's all relative :-). -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 20 15:25:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA02139 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:23:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02121 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:23:11 GMT Received: from finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net (finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net [212.225.36.83]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11861 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:23:10 GMT Received: from host-72-42.dial.in2home.co.uk ([212.225.17.42]) by finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12BJQT-000BNC-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:23:10 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:33:00 +0100 Subject: London Calling From: "mungo sheppard" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk London Calling, There will be a pickup practise starting on Sunday afternoons at 2:00pm on Hyde Park (close to Speakers Corner) as from Sunday 23rd Jan. 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If you are located WITHIN the US please Reply to: mailto:qwzx8@bigfoot.com?subject=US-INFO-PLEASE If you are located OUTSIDE of the US please Reply to: mailto:qwzx8@bigfoot.com?subject=INTERNATIONAL-INFO-PLEASE ********************************************************* Remove at mailto:azre@911fan.com?subject=remove ********************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 11:27:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA28690 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:24:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28681 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:24:30 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01920 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:24:25 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id LAA25861; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:23:46 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000121112603.0086d2c0@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:26:03 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: 1st GB northern regional practice, sun 30 Jan. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, One of the ideas to come out of the GB team discussions at the end of last year was to have regional practices in between the monthly general get-together, as a way to increase the regularity of play whilst avoiding even more travelling. I'm pleased to announce that the first GB northern region practice will be held on sunday 30th January at the University of Manchester's Wythenshawe Sports Ground (many thanks to Rob Mitchell for organising the venue). Directions to the grounds are given at the end of this email. I would encourage all those GB hopefuls (whether open, womens, mixed, masters or juniors) from the northern region who have already turned up to the main sessions to try and make the practice. It's also not too late (just about!) for those who haven't crept out of the woodwork to come along and make an impression! Both myself (mixed team coordinator) and Sam Neilson (overall GB coordinator) will be there to represent the GB management, so none of you northerners need worry that your efforts/skills will go unnoticed :-) Directions: Wythenshawe Sports Ground is immediately north west of junction 9 of the M63. To get there, get off the M63 at J9 and head south on the A5103. Take the first exit off the A5103 and turn right onto the B5167 (Wythenshawe Road). Take the first right onto the B5166 (Sale Road). Take the first right, then turn right again to get onto Yew Tree Lane. The next left should take you back underneath the M63 just by J9; follow this road back west on the north side of the motorway to get to the sports grounds. Rob's sent me a jpeg map of the roads described above; if anyone wants me to send them a copy mail me direct and I'll do so (it's 128K, so I don't want to send it to all those Britdisc people who aren't going to be interested). Hope to see you all in Manchester, Jeff. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 11:27:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA29488 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:27:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29463 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:27:23 GMT Received: from mailgate2.bass.com (mailgate2.bass.com [152.134.49.71]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11200 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:27:07 GMT Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:27:15 +0000 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:23:19 -0000 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E7BA99B@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: FW: Women's Indoor Nationals 5/6 Feb Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:25:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA29465 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a reminder that the deadline for cheques is Monday 24th January. If we have any spaces after then, we will be offering them to any club who has expressed an interest in putting 2 teams in. Cheers Ruth RED 11 > -----Original Message----- > From: Leicester Ultimate Club [SMTP:red@ultimateweb.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 6:27 PM > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Womens Indoor Nationals 5/6 Feb > > Venue: Cannons Health Club, University Road, Leicester > Format: Depends on response, 12 or 16 teams. > Accom: Floor space available, B&B's/Hotels plentiful > Party: Po Na Na, Leicester (TBC) > > > £75 cheques payable to RED ULTIMATE CLUB > > Leicester Ultimate Club > PO Box 1075 > Leicester > LE2 1YQ > > Deadline: Monday 24th January > > Contact Ruth on 07808 095621 ruth.taylor@bass.com > > Lets keep Newport an all-male event! ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. 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Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 12:38:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA24446 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:36:54 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24431 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:36:51 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11607 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:36:37 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id MAA01287; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:36:06 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000121123829.0087f280@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:38:29 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: Re: 1st GB northern regional practice, sun 30 Jan. In-Reply-To: <002201bf640b$81f99aa0$29ec31d4@simon> References: <3.0.5.32.20000121112603.0086d2c0@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Okay everyone, it seems that those dodgy Mancunian types have been changing road names without telling me (the cheek of it!). Another of our roving reporters tells me: >hi Jeff >Just a quick one the m63 is now the M60 and might cause confusion, >and the new number for the junction is 5 >so the directions should read coming anticlockwise on the M60 (from Leeds) . >Come off at junction 5 (M56 towards Manchester airport) onto the A5103, take >the first exit off the A5103 , Turn right at the lights (on sliproad) onto >the B5166 (sale road) then take first right (Rackhouse road) and right again >onto Yew Tree Lane >Hope that helps >Si.b I hope that clears up any confusion, Jeff. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Jeff Jackson >To: >Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:26 AM >Subject: 1st GB northern regional practice, sun 30 Jan. > > Directions: > > Wythenshawe Sports Ground is immediately north west of junction 9 of > the M63. To get there, get off the M63 at J9 and head south on the > A5103. Take the first exit off the A5103 and turn right onto the B5167 > (Wythenshawe Road). Take the first right onto the B5166 (Sale Road). > Take the first right, then turn right again to get onto Yew Tree Lane. > The next left should take you back underneath the M63 just by J9; follow > this road back west on the north side of the motorway to get to the > sports grounds. > > Rob's sent me a jpeg map of the roads described above; if anyone wants > me to send them a copy mail me direct and I'll do so (it's 128K, so I > don't want to send it to all those Britdisc people who aren't going to > be interested). ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 12:52:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA28827 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:51:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28818 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:51:30 GMT Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA26775 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:50:53 GMT Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Fri Jan 21 04:50:05 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:50:05 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "Fluid Druids Mailing List" X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Newport Indoor Tournament - Full X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk NEWPORT INDOOR TOURNAMENT, 5+6 February 2000 The tournament is now FULL. If you are looking to pick up, contact the teams listed below. The following teams have entered: Fluid Druids Angels Hammerage Look At Me Skunks (Southampton Uni) Mr Men Whiplash Mud Culture Blue Arse Flies No Frills (Cardiff Uni) Slipdisc Baboom Point Blank Shrub Disrespect (Clifton College) No Frills 2 (Cardiff Uni) We're ideally still looking for a "Reserve" team - just in case... Check out the website http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/newport2000/ for further information. Especially note that the schedule is subject to revision at any point before the event, and that the seedings/pools will NOT be announced prior to the event. EVERYBODY needs to be there for 08:59 There is unlikely to be any further info sent to the teams - see you there on Saturday morning. Wayne Retter Fluid Druids --- Wayne Retter at work: 01737-273611 at home: mobile: 07970-903420 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 14:18:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA28826 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:16:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28813 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:16:30 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22619 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:16:28 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id OAA07637; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:15:57 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000121141819.008863f0@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:18:19 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: Re: 1st GB northern regional practice, sun 30 Jan. Cc: jamie.rogers@bae.co.uk In-Reply-To: <"GBFLT052-000121130801Z-58504*/PRMD=BAe/ADMD=Gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last message on the subject for a while, I promise! In the previous mails about the GB northern regional practice I neglected to mention the start time... to recap, the full details are: What: 1st GB northern regional practice When: Sunday 30th January 2000, 11:30 am (for 12 noon start) Where: University of Manchester's Wythenshawe Sports Grounds Finally, to avoid any problems with people getting lost on the way there, Jaimie Rogers has kindly allowed me to pass on his mobile number - 07971 607438. If you get lost give him a ring and we'll sort you out. Jeff. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 21 14:45:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA07707 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:43:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07678 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:43:49 GMT Received: from crane2.cf.ac.uk (crane2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12814 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:43:44 GMT Received: from maincf1r.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.100]) by crane2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12BfHE-0007hB-01; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:43:04 +0000 Received: from MAINCF1R/SpoolDir by MAINCF1R.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 21 Jan 00 14:43:05 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by MAINCF1R (Mercury 1.46); 21 Jan 00 14:42:36 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:42:34 GMT0BST Subject: Student Indoor Nationals Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12) Message-ID: <61598D0DC4@MAINCF1R.CF.AC.UK> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Pete, if any details for the Nationals have changed could you please let me know. As far as I know, the nationals will be here in Cardiff at Talybont Sports Centre on the weekend of Feb 19th and 20th. We are in the process of trying to work out the price. If we do what we did for the SW tourny it will be £75/team. However, there is a chance that we could sort out cheap cooked lunch time meals for everyone. This would be an extra cost of £25/team for a meal on Saturday and Sunday lunch time. Assuming that you have 10 people on a team this is £1.25/meal. We haven't made any final decision yet but if you've got any comments please let me know. I think that it would be too complicated to sort out meals for individuals so it will be the whole team or no-one. We have also booked two sports halls so we can have slightly larger pitches and more spectator space around the edge. I'll let you know what is decided next week. Finally Pete, could you possibly let me know the list of teams who are supposed to be competing so that we can get in touch. Cheers, Si simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" 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Cheers, Adam Keen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 23 22:40:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA11410 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:38:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA11405 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:38:53 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25560 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:38:53 GMT Received: from isdn216-37.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:38:35 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Organisation: Home Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:32:24 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Beach Ultimate in Gran Canaria (March 17-19) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Several players have signed up already for the first Beach Ultimate Hat tournament in Las Palmas, Gran Canaria (Spain) and the first European beach event in 2000. Check out the list of participants at http://club.idecnet.com/~iag/preinscripcion.htm Don't miss the fun and the chance to get ready for the beach ultimate season 2000 ! For those who missed the first announcement here are the facts: The Ultimate team Pio Pio from Las Palmas of Gran Canaria invites you to their first Beach Ultimate Hat tournament: When: March 17-19, 2000 Where: Las Palmas, Playa de Las Alcaravaneras http://webold.idecnet.com/Gran_Canaria/p_lpa_i.html Costs: Option A: 15.000 pts., 90.15 Euros, 90.24 $ U.S 3 nights in a 2 star hotel, 3 breakfasts, party, players fee Option B: 5.000 pts., 30.05 Euros, 30.08 $ U.S 3 breakfasts, party, players fee Deadline: Feb 28th, 2000 For more information have a look at the web site http://club.idecnet.com/~iag/ There are also fotos there from Gran Canaria and links which will help you to find out what to do before and after the tournament. Questions may also be directed to the tournament director Ignacio "Nacho" Arcos Please pass this on to anyone possibly interested ! Hope to meet you in the Canaries ! Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 23 22:51:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA13317 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:50:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13310 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:50:32 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26568 for ; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:50:32 GMT Received: from isdn216-37.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:50:28 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Organisation: Home Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:40:35 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: mailing list for the WUGC 2000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WUGC2000-L The mailing list for the WFDF World Ultimate and Guts Championships 2000 On August 5 through 12, 2000, the World Flying Disc Federation will hold the World Ultimate and Guts Championships in Heilbronn, Germany. All communication concerning this event will be done through e-mail. However, due to the expected volume the Tournament Director will not be able handle requests from individual players. He will generally only accept and reply to requests from officially designated team representatives. The mailing list WUGC2000-L is open to all (Ultimate and Guts) players and to anyone else interested in the WUGC 2000. Either the Tournament Director or members of the organizing committee might pass on information through it. Eventually subscribers of this list will be able to help others with their questions. Also, all mails sent through this list are being archived on searchable web pages. Thus, the list might serve as a way to connect the individual player as close to the WUGC information source as possible. During the WUGC scores and results might get mailed through this list. While the organizing committee has been informed about this list and the list owner is a member of the organising committee, it is however not the official source of WUGC information. To subscribe send an e-mail to listserv@uni-karlsruhe.de with the text subscribe WUGC2000-L in the body of the message. More information about the list can be found at the official WUGC web page: http://www.wuc2000.org/ The web archive of the list (there is not much there at the moment) is at http://mailhost.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/warc/wugc2000-l.html If you have questions about the list send an e-mail to the list owner address WUGC2000-L-REQUEST@uni-karlsruhe.de Thomas Griesbaum WUGC2000-L list owner From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 07:53:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA08294 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:47:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08286 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11527 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA01108 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200001240747.HAA01108@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 5th February 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cannons Health Club, Leicester [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date. Contact Ruth Taylor Email Ruth.Taylor@bass.com Phone 07808 095621 (mobile) Newport Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Newport, Wales [Indoor Ultimate] Max 16 teams. Entry fee: GBP 80.00 payable to Wayne Retter, sent to Neil Travers. NB Second team entries will not be accepted until Jan 17. 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NEW HOME PAGE: http://www.paganello.com !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -Jumpi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 08:25:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA12381 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:24:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12370 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:24:12 GMT Received: from web1403.mail.yahoo.com (web1403.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.167]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA13079 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:23:57 GMT Received: (qmail 25380 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2000 08:23:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20000124082356.25379.qmail@web1403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.17.109.33] by web1403.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:23:56 PST Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 00:23:56 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: g'day To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1804289383-948702236=:25253" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --0-1804289383-948702236=:25253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been asked to post this to britdisc for any worldly travellers who are hanging around in asia and are still subscribing to BD and may wish to attend what is going to be an awesome tourney in Perth over Easter. See you there. Colin. P.S. Aram, Jeff, please can i withdraw my application for the open and/or mixed team for Worlds, as i've been appointed the Australian Team Manager. Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --0-1804289383-948702236=:25253 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: colinwagstaff@yahoo.com via web1404.mail.yahoo.com X-Track2: 2 X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from unknown (HELO dme2.dme.wa.gov.au) (202.0.15.2) by mta116.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2000 08:33:53 -0000 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dme2.dme.wa.gov.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA20842 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:18:01 +0800 Received: from perexc73.dme.wa.gov.au(172.16.51.73) by dme2 via smap (V1.3) id sma020832; Fri Jan 21 16:17:44 2000 Received: by PEREXC73.dme.wa.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:31:41 +0800 Message-ID: <45A2A4EFAD48D311ABDC0000F6CD419259FA0C@PEREXC74.dme.wa.gov.au> From: "GREENFIELD, John" To: "'colinwagstaff@yahoo.com'" Subject: gday Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:31:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Length: 596 hi col can u post the following to britdisc please (not a manager task!) The Australian Ultimate Championships 2000 will be held in Perth, Western Australia, April 21-24th. This will be a 1st class tournament in a great laid-back city with fine sunny weather. There will be Open and Women divisions. There is open eligibility to foreign teams and players. For more info check out: http://www.general.uwa.edu.au/u/cwarris/home.htm Pick-up travellers please register online at the above site. cya there LTB also, i have comments on the playbook, which i'll post this weekend hopefully.. cya LTB --0-1804289383-948702236=:25253-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 11:10:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA22512 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:09:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22506 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:09:18 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05634 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:09:17 GMT Received: from [195.92.122.196] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000096762 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:11:33 +0000 Message-ID: <388C332F.88C0CF6E@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:10:44 +0000 From: JW Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: [Fwd: g'day] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin Wagstaff wrote: > I've been appointed the Australian Team Manager. They gave us Neighbours, we give them Wagstaff. One to us I think. ;) Bes* Jes* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 12:24:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA16087 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:22:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16070 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:22:26 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15315 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:22:26 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-042.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.172]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14712 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:30:58 GMT Message-ID: <007d01bf6666$4144f9c0$aca492c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Strange Request Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:16:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6664.C89F2960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6664.C89F2960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know where one can get hold of those frisbees which write = out words in LED's when you throw them? Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last year. Cheers Ben ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6664.C89F2960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know where one can get hold of those = frisbees=20 which write out words in LED's when you throw them?
 
Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last=20 year.
 
Cheers
 
Ben
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6664.C89F2960-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 13:23:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA04904 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:21:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04888 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:21:06 GMT Received: from mailhub4.hull.ac.uk (Lehar.ucc.hull.ac.uk [150.237.196.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21342 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:21:05 GMT Received: from humus.ucc.hull.ac.uk by lehar.ucc.hull.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:20:56 +0000 Received: from minerva [150.237.240.221] by humus.ucc.hull.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 12CjPm-0007E1-00; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:20:18 +0000 From: Sam Julian To: BRITDISC Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:19:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Strange Request Reply-to: s.julian@eng.hull.ac.uk In-reply-to: <007d01bf6666$4144f9c0$aca492c3@ben> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Gadget Shop Has a branch in Hull and is based in Beverley On 24 Jan 00, at 12:16, Ben Ravilious wrote: > Does anyone know where one can get hold of those frisbees which write out > words in LED's when you throw them? > > Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last year. > > Cheers > > Ben > S.Julian@edm.hull.ac.uk The future is bright the future is ORANGE!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 13:33:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA08938 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:32:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08923 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:32:23 GMT Received: from martha_monkey.town-country.co.uk ([193.164.179.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23401 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:32:22 GMT Received: by MARTHA_MONKEY with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:31:28 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Ian Sturgeon (iDOiNK)" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Strange Request Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:31:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF666F.519B21EC" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF666F.519B21EC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If you're in London, I've seen them in Hamley's, but otherwise, you can get them from http://www.hawkin.co.uk/summer.html Cheers Ian -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net] Sent: 24 January 2000 12:16 To: BRITDISC Subject: Strange Request Does anyone know where one can get hold of those frisbees which write out words in LED's when you throw them? Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last year. Cheers Ben ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF666F.519B21EC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
If you're in London, I've seen them in Hamley's, but otherwise, you can get them from
Cheers
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net]
Sent: 24 January 2000 12:16
To: BRITDISC
Subject: Strange Request

Does anyone know where one can get hold of those frisbees which write out words in LED's when you throw them?
 
Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last year.
 
Cheers
 
Ben
------_=_NextPart_001_01BF666F.519B21EC-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 13:33:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA08758 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:31:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08749 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:31:53 GMT From: RGarton@LoweHoward-Spink.co.uk Received: from cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net (cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net [199.94.215.244]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03846 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:31:52 GMT Received: from ww-gate01.ipgnotes.com (ww-gate01.ipgnotes.com [205.181.16.14]) by cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6969356C9; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:29:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Strange Request To: s.julian@eng.hull.ac.uk Cc: BRITDISC Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:24:52 +0000 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WW-Gate01/APL/IPG(Release 5.0.2b (Intl)|16 December 1999) at 01/24/2000 08:25:56 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Urban Outfitters - Ken high street - London Sam Julian @warwick.ac.uk on 24/01/2000 13:19:17 Please respond to s.julian@eng.hull.ac.uk Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk To: BRITDISC cc: Subject: Re: Strange Request The Gadget Shop Has a branch in Hull and is based in Beverley On 24 Jan 00, at 12:16, Ben Ravilious wrote: > Does anyone know where one can get hold of those frisbees which write out > words in LED's when you throw them? > > Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last year. > > Cheers > > Ben > S.Julian@edm.hull.ac.uk The future is bright the future is ORANGE!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 19:42:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA05072 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:41:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05066 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:41:14 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10781 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:41:14 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-051.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.181]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA28637 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:49:53 GMT Message-ID: <01d801bf66a3$964a0900$b5a492c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: Subject: Re: Strange Request Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:31:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to the 20-or-so people who responded! For those who want to know more see www.eyefo.com Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 24 22:28:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA19684 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:27:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19677 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:27:21 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18446 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:27:20 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-058.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.188]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA02341 for ; Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:35:58 GMT Message-ID: <000a01bf66ba$c8b1a9e0$bca492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Team Contact Details - Last Chance! Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:31:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF66BA.C3E9E8A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF66BA.C3E9E8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today is your last chance to get team contact details updated before = mailshots for the Indoor Nationals are sent out. Please check if your team is listed below. If it is, please check your = team contact details on the BUF website at = http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/=20 The following teams have not update their details since the new web = entry form was created in November 1999. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary TeamName LastUpdated DISCO INFERNO 15/10/98 MORE THAN JUST A HINT 15/10/98 MAD KOWS 15/10/98 EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY WOMENS 15/10/98 MAGNIFICENT SEVERN 18/10/98 SOUTHERN LIGHTS 26/10/98 GB JUNIOR TEAM 26/10/98 DISCULT 26/10/98 VICIOUS CIRCLE 26/10/98 NADS 26/10/98 SPUD GUN 26/10/98 DUMP FRENZY 26/10/98 FICKLED FINGERS 03/11/98 ESSEX UNIVERSITY 11/11/98 THE FLYING SQUAD 16/11/98 SOUTHAMPTON INSTITUTE 27/11/98 NO FRILLS 01/12/98 BEARS 01/12/98 WOLFSON ULTIMATE 01/12/98 PHAT 'EDS 01/12/98 LOOK AT ME 02/12/98 VILLAGE PEOPLE 02/12/98 VIOLENTLY HAPPY 02/12/98 CHAOS 04/12/98 ORGANICS 06/12/98 NEW BIRMINGHAM TEAM 11/12/98 BANGOR UNIVERSITY 14/12/98 FUBAR 08/01/99 TWO MILE ASH MIDDLE SCHOOL 09/01/99 DISCPRAXIC DRAGONS 14/01/99 HIGH PIE 24/01/99 ZEBEDEES 10/02/99 SUBSTANCE ABUSE 17/02/99 WINCHESTER COLLEGE 04/05/99 DANE RAIDERS 01/06/99 UNIVERSITY OF WALES INSTITUTE CARDIFF 02/06/99 CATCH 22 18/06/99 HURRICANES 18/06/99 ALIEN NATION 18/06/99 NIGHT FEVER 18/06/99 K-NIGGETS 18/06/99 GAEL FORCE 18/06/99 TWIN PEAKS 18/06/99 SOUP 18/06/99 SOURCE 18/06/99 FAR FLUNG 18/06/99 MUD CULTURE 18/06/99 STRANGE BLUE 18/06/99 ASHTEAD DRAGONS 18/06/99 UNDER THE INFLUENCE 18/06/99 LURKERS 02/08/99 PLAYTHINGS 15/08/99 CHARNWOOD SUNZ 16/08/99 DISC GRACEFUL 06/09/99 JEDI CHILDREN 13/09/99 SLY DOGS 20/09/99 HINT OF LIME 20/09/99 BRUNEL FALCONS 27/09/99 DISCIPLES 27/09/99 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF66BA.C3E9E8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Today is your last chance to get team contact = details updated=20 before mailshots for the Indoor Nationals are sent out.
 
Please check if your team is listed below. If it is, = please=20 check your team contact details on the BUF website at http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/=20
 
The following teams have not update their details = since the=20 new web entry form was created in November 1999.
 
Thanks
 
Ben Ravilious
BUF Secretary
 
TeamName LastUpdated
DISCO=20 INFERNO 15/10/98
MORE THAN JUST A HINT 15/10/98
MAD=20 KOWS 15/10/98
EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY = WOMENS 15/10/98
MAGNIFICENT=20 SEVERN 18/10/98
SOUTHERN LIGHTS 26/10/98
GB JUNIOR=20 TEAM 26/10/98
DISCULT 26/10/98
VICIOUS=20 CIRCLE 26/10/98
NADS 26/10/98
SPUD = GUN 26/10/98
DUMP=20 FRENZY 26/10/98
FICKLED FINGERS 03/11/98
ESSEX=20 UNIVERSITY 11/11/98
THE FLYING = SQUAD 16/11/98
SOUTHAMPTON=20 INSTITUTE 27/11/98
NO=20 FRILLS 01/12/98
BEARS 01/12/98
WOLFSON=20 ULTIMATE 01/12/98
PHAT 'EDS 01/12/98
LOOK AT=20 ME 02/12/98
VILLAGE PEOPLE 02/12/98
VIOLENTLY=20 HAPPY 02/12/98
CHAOS 04/12/98
ORGANICS 06/12/98
N= EW=20 BIRMINGHAM TEAM 11/12/98
BANGOR=20 UNIVERSITY 14/12/98
FUBAR 08/01/99
TWO MILE ASH MIDDLE=20 SCHOOL 09/01/99
DISCPRAXIC DRAGONS 14/01/99
HIGH=20 PIE 24/01/99
ZEBEDEES 10/02/99
SUBSTANCE=20 ABUSE 17/02/99
WINCHESTER COLLEGE 04/05/99
DANE=20 RAIDERS 01/06/99
UNIVERSITY OF WALES INSTITUTE=20 CARDIFF 02/06/99
CATCH=20 22 18/06/99
HURRICANES 18/06/99
ALIEN=20 NATION 18/06/99
NIGHT=20 FEVER 18/06/99
K-NIGGETS 18/06/99
GAEL=20 FORCE 18/06/99
TWIN=20 PEAKS 18/06/99
SOUP 18/06/99
SOURCE 18/06/99
FAR = FLUNG 18/06/99
MUD CULTURE 18/06/99
STRANGE=20 BLUE 18/06/99
ASHTEAD DRAGONS 18/06/99
UNDER THE=20 INFLUENCE 18/06/99
LURKERS 02/08/99
PLAYTHINGS 15/08= /99
CHARNWOOD=20 SUNZ 16/08/99
DISC GRACEFUL 06/09/99
JEDI=20 CHILDREN 13/09/99
SLY DOGS 20/09/99
HINT OF=20 LIME 20/09/99
BRUNEL=20 FALCONS 27/09/99
DISCIPLES 27/09/99
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF66BA.C3E9E8A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 25 08:45:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA01289 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:43:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01282 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:43:42 GMT Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA25102 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:43:41 GMT Received: (qmail 4540 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2000 08:43:40 -0000 Received: from usercq28.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.156.156) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2000 08:43:40 -0000 Message-ID: <003501bf6710$93cd34a0$9c9cbc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: "BRITDISC" References: <007d01bf6666$4144f9c0$aca492c3@ben> Subject: Pitchmarking cones at GB last week + Colin down under Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:44:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF6710.76D3E880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF6710.76D3E880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At the GB practice last week, or two weeks back, or whatever it was... I = left my 2 sets of 8 cones behind. D'oh. I'm sure that some nice person picked them up for me - I was wondering = who that was please? I'm hoping that there may be some way for me to get them back before the = next GB session if poss. Si ps - What are the Aussies up to with Colin? Apart from lots of obvious comments, I thought that you had to be = resident in a country for longer than 22 minutes to be eligable to play = for them at WUC. But then again, in this case I think we should just = keep quiet. Its a spirit thing. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF6710.76D3E880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At the GB practice last week, or two = weeks back, or=20 whatever it was... I left my 2 sets of 8 cones behind.  = D'oh.
I'm sure that some nice person picked = them up for=20 me - I was wondering who that was please?
I'm hoping that there may be some way = for me to get=20 them back before the next GB session if poss.
 
Si
 
ps - What are the Aussies up to with=20 Colin?
Apart from lots of obvious comments, I = thought that=20 you had to be resident in a country for longer than 22 minutes to be = eligable to=20 play for them at WUC.  But then again, in this case I think we = should just=20 keep quiet.  Its a spirit thing.
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF6710.76D3E880-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 25 08:45:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA01288 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:43:44 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01272 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:43:41 GMT Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA08161 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:43:40 GMT Received: (qmail 4535 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2000 08:43:38 -0000 Received: from usercq28.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.156.156) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2000 08:43:38 -0000 Message-ID: <003401bf6710$92eb6020$9c9cbc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: "Ben Ravilious" Cc: "BRITDISC" References: <007d01bf6666$4144f9c0$aca492c3@ben> Subject: Re: Strange Request Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:38:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF670F.8A867060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF670F.8A867060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben That was us. Our kit in 1999 was sponsored by the company who makes them - they are = called "Eye-Fo". The disc I have here mentions www.mgx.co.uk which I think had a link to their site - from which I think you could = buy the discs. I can't remember to be honest. Hope that helps. Si ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ben Ravilious=20 To: BRITDISC=20 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: Strange Request Does anyone know where one can get hold of those frisbees which write = out words in LED's when you throw them? Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last year. Cheers Ben ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF670F.8A867060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ben
 
That was us.
Our kit in 1999 was sponsored by the = company who=20 makes them - they are called "Eye-Fo".  The disc I have here = mentions www.mgx.co.uk
which I think had a link to their site = - from which=20 I think you could buy the discs.  I can't remember to be=20 honest.
 
Hope that helps.
 
Si
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ben = Ravilious=20
To: BRITDISC
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 = 12:16=20 PM
Subject: Strange Request

Does anyone know where one can get hold of those = frisbees=20 which write out words in LED's when you throw them?
 
Someone was chucking one around at Eastbourne last = year.
 
Cheers
 
Ben
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BF670F.8A867060-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 27 14:15:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA05308 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:11:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05235 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:10:54 GMT Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24478 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:10:48 GMT Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12DpdE-0005Dc-00; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:10:44 +0000 Received: from skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.158] ident=mackay) by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12DpdE-00020f-00; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:10:44 +0000 Received: (from mackay@localhost) by skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA31028; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:10:43 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:10:43 GMT From: "David J.C. MacKay" Message-Id: <200001271410.OAA31028@skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB training programme images Cc: gb_masters@listbot.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Paul Unwin asked for the training programme images to be scanned in. I have put them on this page http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/gbm/training/ for anyone who wants to look. yours David From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 27 21:47:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA05699 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:45:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05688 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:45:43 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05441 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:45:43 GMT Received: from host213-1-44-60.host.btclick.com ([213.1.44.60]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000127214242.ENTN26117.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host213-1-44-60.host.btclick.com> for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:42:42 +0000 Received: by host213-1-44-60.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF690E.DF7AF860@host213-1-44-60.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:38:38 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF690E.DF7AF860@host213-1-44-60.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Nationals Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 21:37:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA05689 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Invites have gone out now, so hopefully people will stop mailing five times an hour asking what is going on. Just be grateful that the boys and girls down in Plymouth have agreed in the last week to host the event or we wouldn't be playing. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 28 08:34:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA19327 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:32:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19317 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:32:21 GMT Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19603 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:32:20 GMT Received: from acotgreave (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA19071 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:32:20 GMT From: "Andy Cotgreave" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: To Rimini via Bologna Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:32:16 -0000 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127032677E9@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, Well, the cheap fares to Rimini are gone. So are the "mid" price ones. Now it's £228 to fly to Rimini with Ryanair - that is damned expensive! Who has been to the Paganello through Bologna airport? How easy/expensive is it to get to Rimini on the bus/train? Is anyone getting a Bologna flight? Go are doing returns for under £100 still, via Bologna. Any thoughts on taking this route would be appreciated... Andy ========== RM plc acotgreave@rm.com tel: 01235 823254 IMPORTANT: This e-mail is intended for the above named addressee only. In consideration of us disclosing to you the information set out in this message which is not publicly available, you undertake to treat the information as being strictly private and confidential, and you shall take all precautions to maintain its status as such and use and apply the information solely for the purpose for which it is intended. If this email has come to you in error please delete the email and any attachments; you must take no action based on it, nor may you forward it or copy it to anyone. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 28 08:59:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA25938 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:59:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25921 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:59:02 GMT Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (mta@smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24988 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 08:59:00 GMT Received: from ultilinks.com ([24.30.139.77]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:58:57 -0800 Message-ID: <38915A21.2446C093@ultilinks.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:58:09 -0800 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Bored at work? Try Ultilinks! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BritDisc, I haven't bugged you a long time, so here it comes. Have you been to Ultilinks lately? It changed quite a bit in December. So why don't you take a break from work and check it out? http://www.ultilinks.com/ There's A LOT of procrastination material, believe me: articles, cool pictures, postcards, lots of links, tournaments, interviews, you name it. And DO try that SCOOBER in a game! ;) Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 28 11:11:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA06574 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:09:34 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06556 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:09:32 GMT Received: from navy.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@navy.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.49]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15149 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:08:32 GMT Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by navy.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12E9GD-0006Hc-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:08:17 +0000 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12E9GC-0002LX-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:08:16 +0000 To: acotgreave@rmplc.net, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: To Rimini via Bologna Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:08:16 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Trains around Italy are realy cheap, and pretty reliable. Bologna to Rimini by train is easy. David l From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 28 13:08:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA21083 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:05:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21067 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:05:10 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03975 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:05:09 GMT Received: from modem-81.pearl-scale-butterfly.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.48.81] helo=bigeasy) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12EB5H-0008JG-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:05:07 +0000 Message-ID: <004a01bf698f$c38eaad0$c403883e@bigeasy> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: Pick Ups for Newport Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:56:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk if anyone is thinking of going to Newport to play pickup then Shrub is looking for a few players (er...well actually we are looking for a team. If you see one, let me know.) unfortunately, I'll be away at a course in london all next week, so basically see you there. Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 28 16:27:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA27769 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:24:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27761 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:24:46 GMT Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01118 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:24:44 GMT Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA02711 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:46:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3891B9E0.F2E79027@paganello.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:46:40 +0100 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc Subject: Bologna -> Rimini Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------89A65857ECDA0C81621F7F56" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --------------89A65857ECDA0C81621F7F56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, trains from Bologna to Rimini run almost every hour and it takes 1 hour or 1 hour and a half. The cost of one-way ticket is about 3/3.5 pounds. As you get off the Bologna airport, there is a bus (about 2 pounds and 30 minutes) which takes you to the train station. The Rimini train station is 20 minutes walking from the fields. Try this URL for the timetable: http://bahn.hafas.de/bin/db.s98/detect.exe/bin/db.s98/query.exe/e? Hope it helps you! -- Ciao! -Jumpi the Beach Ultimate Experience is at: http://www.paganello.com --------------89A65857ECDA0C81621F7F56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there,

trains from Bologna to Rimini run almost every hour and
it takes 1 hour or 1 hour and a half.
The cost of one-way ticket is about 3/3.5 pounds.

As you get off the Bologna airport, there is a bus (about 2 pounds and 30 minutes) which
takes you to the train station.

The Rimini train station is 20 minutes walking from the fields.

Try this URL for the timetable:
http://bahn.hafas.de/bin/db.s98/detect.exe/bin/db.s98/query.exe/e?

Hope it helps you! 

-- 
Ciao!
-Jumpi

the Beach Ultimate Experience is at:
http://www.paganello.com
  --------------89A65857ECDA0C81621F7F56-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 28 16:57:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA06893 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:55:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06781 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:55:15 GMT Received: from mailgate2.bass.com (mailgate2.bass.com [152.134.49.71]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03838 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:55:11 GMT Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:53:55 +0000 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:49:55 -0000 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E7BA9F3@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: Women's Indoor Nationals Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:52:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There is currently 1 space available. We have 15 teams confirmed and paid. These are listed below. Bears Organics Fierce Red 1 Red 2 Mythago York Mohawks Ro Sham Bo Disco Inferno Cardiff Angels London Angels BAF Skunks Janitors As there are so many teams entered and only one hall, in order to minimise the amount of hanging around teams need to do, we are going to arrange it so that teams will either play their games in the morning, or in the afternoon. So that you can arrange yourselves accordingly, details of when you will be playing will be posted on Britdisc early next week. Needless to say, if you're based quite close to Leicester and seedings permitting, there's a good chance you'll be playing on Saturday morning!! Directions will be out on Britdisc at the same time as the playing schedule. When you've seen the schedule, could a representative from each team send me information on floor space requirements (how many, which nights, etc.). Any questions, please contact myself using this email address, or on 07808 095621. Cheers Ruth RED 11 ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete all records of the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without our prior written consent is strictly prohibited. Neither the author of this message nor their employers accept legal responsibility for the contents of the message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jan 29 06:02:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id GAA02661 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:00:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02653 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:00:15 GMT Received: from bsd01.community.net.uk (bsd01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04905 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:00:14 GMT Received: from alpha01.community.net.uk (alpha01.community.net.uk [195.72.161.16]) by bsd01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA43824 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:00:13 GMT Received: from server.oxtutor.co.uk (oxtutor.community.co.uk [195.72.164.109]) by alpha01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA02900 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:00:12 GMT Received: by server.oxtutor.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BF69AD.C4AE5000@server.oxtutor.co.uk>; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:36:03 -0000 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Hope To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Publicity & Sponsorship e-group Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:36:03 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 'Working in marketing, or the media? Reckon Ultimate deserves more >coverage and recognition? Then read on... > I am looking to set up an e-group to bring together all those players able >to assist in raising the public profile of Ultimate and/or help in >obtaining sponsorship for British teams and events. > If you're interested, mail me telling me a little about yourself - what you do, who you play for, how you might be able to help etc. > Let's put some heads together and see what we can come up with! > > Cheers Jon Hope > (BUF Publicity Officer) >--------- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jan 29 13:04:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA02577 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:02:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02571 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:02:14 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25076 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:02:13 GMT Received: from snailsden.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12EXW1-0000w8-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:02:13 +0000 Received: from SNAILSDEN/SpoolDir by snailsden.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 29 Jan 00 13:02:13 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SNAILSDEN (Mercury 1.46); 29 Jan 00 13:01:58 +0000 Received: from Bob (143.167.192.239) by snailsden.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 29 Jan 00 13:01:50 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:02:04 -0000 Message-ID: <01C624D4.33B7FB80.ecd97js@sheffield.ac.uk> From: Jesper To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: To Rimini via Bologna Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:25:55 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All If Anyone is still looking for cheap flights to Rimini phone 0171 400 4538 and talk to Matt. ?158 including tax Jes From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 30 23:27:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA00012 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:25:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29997 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:25:32 GMT Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20727 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:25:32 GMT Received: from host213-1-11-159.host.btclick.com ([213.1.45.128]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000130232816.EQIB1955.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-1-11-159.host.btclick.com> for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:28:16 +0000 Received: by host213-1-11-159.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF6B78.56CD35C0@host213-1-11-159.host.btclick.com>; Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:18:38 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF6B78.56CD35C0@host213-1-11-159.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Indoor Regionals / Nationals Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:18:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id XAA00004 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hopefully all of you who ensured that your contact details are upto date will have now received the information pack for Regionals / Nationals. The various tournaments are; 26 / 27 February SCOTLAND: Jack Kane Sports Centre, Edinburgh MIDLANDS: Towcester Sports Centre, Towcester LONDON: College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, South London 4 / 5 March SOUTHERN: Mayflower Sports Centre, Plymouth 25 / 26 March (Yes I know this is different to the dates in the info pack - we were unlikely to be hosting Nations on a Monday and Tuesday - Sorry) NATIONALS: Mayflower Sports Centre, Plymouth Should you wish to enter then you need to return the form included in the information pack to the relevant tournament director. This is to ensure an equal chance for all teams to enter, and not advantage those who still rely on the normal postal service. Clubs can enter as many teams as they like as long as space is available at the event. I made another mistake on the form. I forgot that there were no BUF team subscriptions being levied this year, and so ignore the instructions on that front. Those of you more interested in outdoors - expect the tour info to arriving on your doorstep in the next couple of weeks. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 31 07:53:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA18514 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:47:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18506 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05270 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29144 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200001310747.HAA29144@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 5th February 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cannons Health Club, Leicester [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date. Contact Ruth Taylor Email Ruth.Taylor@bass.com Phone 07808 095621 (mobile) Newport Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Newport, Wales [Indoor Ultimate] Max 16 teams. Entry fee: GBP 80.00 payable to Wayne Retter, sent to Neil Travers. NB Second team entries will not be accepted until Jan 17. Contact Neil Travers Address 5 Cross Road Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 2UQ Email druid@dreamer.demon.co.uk Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf - Open Doubles (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 Saturday 4th March 2000 Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 18th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 31 14:28:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA12862 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:25:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12852 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:25:38 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08545 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:25:38 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28595 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:25:37 GMT Received: from TRAINB-10.sucs.soton.ac.uk (ak3009-18.sul.soton.ac.uk [152.78.209.49]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id OAA01529 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:15:42 GMT From: Neil Pennington Reply-To: nap197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lost Property from Southampton Indoors Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:15:44 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Below is a list of the lost property collected from the Southampton Indoor Tournament before Christmas. We will be bringing the stuff to Newport, if you want to claim it there, otherwise drop me an e-mail. Pair of Airwalk Shoes 3 Water Bottles: 1 Isotar, 1 Cheltenham Cycles (BAF's I think) and 1 white with green lid White Samurai Ultimate T-shirt Nike Blue Polo-neck long sleeve top Plain Black Sweatshirt Pair of Knee Pads/supports Nike Baseball Cap (Beige with Black Peak) Cheers marv ---------------------- Neil Pennington nap197@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 31 14:45:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA18415 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:41:25 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18362 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:41:18 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10910 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:41:17 GMT Received: from [212.140.69.139] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12FI0y-00042q-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:41:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01bf6bf9$81d657c0$8b458cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: GB practice Feb 12 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:41:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This announcement only applies to WOMENS, MASTERS, and MIXED. (The open squad are practicing somewhere else, check with Aram. Juniors are welcome to come along, but your main practice will be arranged by Patch in the near future.) The February 12 (Saturday) practice will be held in Milton Keynes at Woughton Playing Fields. (The same place it has been.) Directions are below for anyone who hasn't been there yet. Arrivals and Warmup- 9:30 Start of Practice- 10:00 For those of you who want practices closer to where you live- find me some pitches and I can book them if the managers agree on the site. All reasonable offers will be considered. Otherwise, practice will continue to be in/around MK because it's close to where *I* live! nancy DIRECTIONS >From the M1 get off at Exit 14 and turn towards Milton Keynes. First big roundabout take the second road, H6, next roundabout take a right. Keep going until you see the golden arches on the left. Turn right at the roundabout - I think it is H10, not positive. Go straight on that for a few roundabouts, at one point you will see a smoke stack on your right you are getting close. Look for signs to turn off to the left for Woughton on the Green. As soon as you turn off you will turn right and go under the road you were just on. Right after that you should see a sign for the sports fields parking lot on the right. Park and walk to the Pavilion. If you are coming from the other side of Milton Keynes than the M1 you should be arriving on the A421, just keep following it past the hospital you will come to two quick roundabouts. You should see signs for Woughton on the Green. Go straight and you should see signs for Woughton on the Green. It should be on the left shortly after the roundabouts. When you turn off look to turn right right away and then left into the parking lot. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 31 22:24:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA21434 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:23:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21424 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:23:17 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA07671 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:23:16 GMT Received: from [195.92.122.201] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000118260 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:25:56 +0000 Message-ID: <38960B4E.8285DA8C@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:24:02 +0000 From: JW Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Lift to Newport please? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Boys and Girls I'm on the scrounge. ;) Can anyone offer me car space please to get to Newport indoors next weekend from London in return for petrol money / a warm bed? Cheers Bes* Jes* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 10:46:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA05068 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:42:54 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05063 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:42:53 GMT Received: from mailgate2.bass.com (mailgate2.bass.com [152.134.49.71]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07412 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:42:51 GMT Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:43:18 +0000 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1CTD0PB2>; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:39:14 -0000 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E7BAA1B@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: Women's Indoor Nationals 2000 Directions and Schedule Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:41:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All information you should need can be found at the following web sites. http://www.ravilious.net/map.doc http://www.ravilious.net/words.doc Any queries, please contact me on 01283 513057 (until 4pm today only) or on 07808 095621 at all other times... (I left my mobile at home today - D'oh!!) Cheers Ruth RED ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete all records of the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without our prior written consent is strictly prohibited. Neither the author of this message nor their employers accept legal responsibility for the contents of the message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 14:23:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA20544 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:21:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20526 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:21:29 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02457 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:21:29 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12FeBM-0000O7-00; Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:21:28 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 1 Feb 00 14:21:28 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 1 Feb 00 14:21:15 +0000 From: "Pete Coy" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:21:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student outdoor bids X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <545F8666A06@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks, With student Indoor finals and 'Not-the Nationals', not far away its time to start thinking about Student outdoors. The date is the 6/7th of May, as is traditional. All we need is a venue! The tournament should be as big as possible, at least 24 teams, so as to allow as many clubs to compete as possible. With so many teams you will have to think hard about accomodation, 24 teams means roughly 240 players, so camping possibilities are a good idea. If you are interesed send an e-mail to Pete at lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 15:37:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA16877 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:34:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16848 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:34:47 GMT Received: from mailgate2.bass.com (mailgate2.bass.com [152.134.49.71]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11762 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:34:41 GMT Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:38:18 +0000 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1DALT59N>; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:34:13 -0000 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E7BAA22@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: RE: Women's Indoor Nationals 2000 Directions and Schedule Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:57:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have had a few requests from people about pick-ups for this weekend. I have no idea what the situation is with the teams that are coming to the tournament, so if you're coming and your team is (or could be) short of players, then please let me know as I can put you in touch with those who have contacted me wanting to pick-up. Cheers Ruth RED > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC) [SMTP:Ruth.Taylor@bass.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 10:42 AM > To: 'britdisc2' > Subject: Women's Indoor Nationals 2000 Directions and Schedule > > All information you should need can be found at the following web sites. > > http://www.ravilious.net/map.doc > http://www.ravilious.net/words.doc > > Any queries, please contact me on 01283 513057 (until 4pm today only) or > on > 07808 095621 at all other times... (I left my mobile at home today - > D'oh!!) > > Cheers > Ruth > RED > > > > ********************************************************************** > This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons > to > whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have > received > this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and > delete > all records of the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, > dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or > publication of this message without our prior written consent is strictly > prohibited. Neither the author of this message nor their employers accept > legal responsibility for the contents of the message. Any views or > opinions > presented are solely those of the author. > > Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE > tel: +44 20 7409 1919 > ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete all records of the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without our prior written consent is strictly prohibited. Neither the author of this message nor their employers accept legal responsibility for the contents of the message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 17:11:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA21073 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:09:57 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21028 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:09:51 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:09:51 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: GB practice in March Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk CHANGE OF DATE - PLEASE NOTIFY ALL THOSE NOT ON BRITDISC To all players trying out for GB ================================ The March GB session that was pencilled in some months ago has been brought forward by a week and will now take place on Saturday 4 March in Leicester. The plan is for ALL GB teams to practice at a common venue - the full details of which will be announced shortly by Nancy Stebbing (who has kindly volunteered to co-ordinate the booking and publicity of monthly sessions). The Feb session will be going ahead on the 12 Feb, as advertised by Nancy yesterday. As always, if you have ANY questions or comments about the GB training and selection, please contact the relevant Divisional Manager (or myself if appropriate): Open - Aram Flores aflores@lehman.com Womens - Terri Whitehead terri@cloe.demon.co.uk Juniors - Patch Winser patch@winser.com Masters - Wayne Davey w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk wayne@ultimate.freeserve.co.uk Mixed - Jeff Jackson Jeffrey.F.E.Jackson@soc.soton.ac.uk General Manager - Sammy Neilson D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Cheers Sam. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 17:28:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA26834 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:27:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26746 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:26:59 GMT Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA27589 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:26:58 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA23086 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:11:01 GMT Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:11:01 GMT Message-Id: <000901bf6cd9$a9ce0ee0$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: , "Dave Neilson" Subject: Re: GB practice in March Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:27:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Isn't that the same weekend as one of the indoor regionals ? Seems a bit stupid to me to move a practise from a free weekend to one already taken up by a tournament ? Balti BAF 34 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Neilson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 01 February 2000 17:13 Subject: GB practice in March >CHANGE OF DATE - PLEASE NOTIFY ALL THOSE NOT ON BRITDISC > >To all players trying out for GB >================================ > >The March GB session that was pencilled in some months ago has been brought >forward by a week and will now take place on Saturday 4 March in Leicester. >The plan is for ALL GB teams to practice at a common venue - the full >details of which will be announced shortly by Nancy Stebbing (who has >kindly volunteered to co-ordinate the booking and publicity of monthly >sessions). > >The Feb session will be going ahead on the 12 Feb, as advertised by Nancy >yesterday. > >As always, if you have ANY questions or comments about the GB training and >selection, please contact the relevant Divisional Manager (or myself if >appropriate): > >Open - Aram Flores aflores@lehman.com >Womens - Terri Whitehead terri@cloe.demon.co.uk >Juniors - Patch Winser patch@winser.com >Masters - Wayne Davey w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk > wayne@ultimate.freeserve.co.uk >Mixed - Jeff Jackson Jeffrey.F.E.Jackson@soc.soton.ac.uk > >General Manager - Sammy Neilson D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk > > >Cheers > >Sam. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 1 17:49:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA02676 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:48:08 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02665 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:48:05 GMT Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05818 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:48:00 GMT Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with SMTP id <115229>; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:48:48 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id MAA19179; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:47:17 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id RAA11662; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:47:45 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1BYFDF6A>; Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:49:39 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C90@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: GB practice in March MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:48:46 -0500 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Isn't that the same weekend as one of the indoor regionals ? Yep, the Plymouth one. Chris Hughes message "Indoor Regionals / Nationals" said: > 4 / 5 March > SOUTHERN: Mayflower Sports Centre, Plymouth -- Neil Travers work: Fluid Druids home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 09:11:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA21590 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:08:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21578 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:08:11 GMT Received: from crane2.cf.ac.uk (crane2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09858 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:08:11 GMT Received: from uwcmcm2s.uwcm.ac.uk ([193.63.112.47]) by crane2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12FvlD-0006DX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 02 Feb 2000 09:07:39 +0000 Received: from UWCMCM2S/SpoolDir by UWCMCM2S.UWCM.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 2 Feb 00 09:07:39 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by UWCMCM2S (Mercury 1.46); 2 Feb 00 09:07:38 GMT0BST From: "STEPHEN J AUSTIN" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:07:36 GMT0BST Subject: RE: GB practice in March In-reply-to: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57C90@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12) Message-ID: <2854A676C50@UWCMCM2S.UWCM.AC.UK> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello all, i'm sure there is a good reason (?) for changing the practice dates BUT, considering how long in advance they've been posted many folks have made sure they could be there on the scheduled dates. so, why the change now? enquiring minds want to know, steve night fever Stephen Austin Department of Haematology University Hospital of Wales College of Medicine Cardiff CF4 4XN 01222 744526 (lab) 01222 743485 (office) 01222 744655 (fax) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 10:08:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA09123 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:07:30 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09075 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:07:22 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:07:22 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: GB practice in March Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >CHANGE OF DATE - PLEASE NOTIFY ALL THOSE NOT ON BRITDISC [ON HOLD] OKAY ... in the light of comments posted to this group I will attempt to return the session to the original date - please bear with me while I consult with the other managers, the venue hosts and some others. I trust that there will be no complainers about the fact that a session on Saturday 11 March will clash with the Warwick Indoors AND with the Disc Golf in Beaminster .... Apologies to all the people this might mess around (a tiny minority of the disc playing Brits) - we will get there in the end. Sam Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 14:27:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA02351 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:25:00 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02335 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:24:58 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:24:58 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: List of GB volunteers continues to grow! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS A veritable army of Ultimate players have stepped forward to help with GB's entry for the WUGC 2000 campaign ... the latest addition being Terri Whitehead who has agreed to act as the GB Women's Divisional Manager (DM) - taking over the reins from Tara Jewell (to allow her to concentrate on her studies!) ... I wanted to take this opportunity to give due credit to ALL those who have taken on management and support roles, including: Aram Flores Open DM Terri Whitehead Women's DM Tara Jewell Women's DM (Acting) Patch Winser Juniors' DM Kevin Lowe Juniors' DM (Assisting) Wayne Davey Masters' DM Jeff Jackson Mixed DM Ian Stebbing Admin: Finance Suzanne Penfold Admin: Transport Colin Smith Admin: Sponsorship Sam Rey Admin: Team Kit Nancy Stebbing Admin: Monthly Training Paul Unwin Admin: Fitness Programme plus ... the BUF Executive Officers and the various venue hosts and helpers. With such an array of organisational talent I am confident that we shall send a GB force to be reckoned with! If all goes to plan, we should have almost 100 (yes, one hundred) players making the trip to Germany to represent their country. This will be the largest contingent ever to represent GB at a World or European (National Team) Championships. As the date for team selection rapidly approaches, may I also wish every success to those hoping to win a place on one of the GB teams - I'm sure that for those who do not make it in 2000, it will only be a matter of time before their efforts and training pay dividends. Thanks and best wishes ... Sam Neilson GB National Ultimate Teams General Manager & GB Guts Team Manager PS Could I add that we could use further assistance with our GB Juniors: we need helpers, managers and players (please contact D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk or patch@winser.com if you have not already made yourself known). 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  --------------42908EA738D87D2437C1109B-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 09:01:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA24651 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:00:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24640 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:00:18 GMT Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (root@caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24763 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:00:18 GMT Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA02078 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:00:16 GMT Received: from localhost (jpg2@localhost) by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA22256 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:00:15 GMT Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:00:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Big Funky X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: britdisc Subject: Jester In-Reply-To: <389932DD.E4EA640C@paganello.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry about using britdisc for this. Jester can you please get in touch - I need your seasoned advise on something! Jon Good aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian' and MTJAH aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of BAF D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. Safety Officer S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers * Also available at 'funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com' * J'ai mange de la vache enragee, tout les temps! BIG LOVE "Move your body to the Balkan beat, your hard Western currancy will go down a treat!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 09:30:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA00900 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:28:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00879 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:28:24 GMT Received: from dove2.cf.ac.uk (dove2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.1.170]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19186 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:28:24 GMT Received: from maincf1r.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.100]) by dove2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12GIXs-0002VC-01; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:27:24 +0000 Received: from MAINCF1R/SpoolDir by MAINCF1R.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 3 Feb 00 09:27:53 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by MAINCF1R (Mercury 1.46); 3 Feb 00 09:27:38 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:27:32 GMT0BST Subject: SWRegion and Indoor Nationals Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Fellow Students, You may already have been informed about the SW training session but I'm just making sure. Training and selection for the SW team will be on Sat. Feb 12th either in Bristol (if we can get it sorted) or in Cardiff. More details will follow. STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS I will be sending details and maps to all Unis who have qualified for the nationals in the next few days. Meanwhile here are the main details just to keep you up to date: Date: Feb 19th and 20th Venue: Talybont Sports Centre, CARDIFF Price: £75/team (payable to UWC Ultimate Frisbee) Contact: Simon McSweeney, 38 Daniel Street, Cathays, Cardiff, CF24 4NY. phone (01222) 639170 Games will start at 9am, and we've been lucky enough to get two sports halls (for bigger pitches and more spectator room). I was finding out about cheap cooked meals for all players but, for many reasons we've decided to scrap that idea. It'll be too much hassle working it into the schedule and there is a McDonald's and a Tesco just round the corner. Could all teams please get in touch with me so that I know you're getting this and that you're still coming. cheers, Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 11:32:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA06736 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:30:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06705 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:30:48 GMT Received: from finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net (finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net [212.225.36.83]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07460 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:30:47 GMT Received: from host-73-106.dial.in2home.co.uk ([212.225.18.106]) by finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12GKTF-000FDj-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:30:45 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 12:30:32 +0100 Subject: Ctrl London Pickup Practice From: "mungo sheppard" To: britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A reminder to everyone in London, especially those who have nothing to do on Sunday afternoons, that the pickup practice generally known as the "Bad Habits" pickup will be running as usual. We will be meeting on the grass behind the "speakers" on speakers corner at 2:00 pm and then move too where the grass is greener when we have enough people to do drills. Punishment for lateness is the wandering around you will have to do to find us. Those who turned up in the last two weeks that it has been running, have enjoyed the pleasant atmosphere, scenic surroundings and progressive nature of the practice, so fuck Alton Towers and join in the fray, we still have room for a few more. Any complaints should be voiced to me on: (H) 020 7435 3018 (M) 07801 547 083 Repent, Ye Sinners Mungo "There's nothing as hard as a Sheppard". From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 13:07:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA03040 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:03:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03018 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:03:20 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23321 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:03:19 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tk7acfc7.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.113.97]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA11914 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:03:19 GMT Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:03:19 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <200002031303.NAA11914@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB Women Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, RE: GB WOMEN - TEAM AND TRAINING Thanks to those of you who have replied to my email and let me know your interest (and concerns) for this year. You are probably aware by now that the next GB training session is 12th Feb at Milton Keynes. Please do everything possible to make this practice as we need to talk through dates for selection (and how selection is to be decided), deposit payments, accommodation requirements etc. If you haven't been in touch, can't make this practice, and would like to be considered for selection, please either email me, talk to me at women's nationals this weekend, or phone. The standard of women's ultimate in this country is going from strength to strength. We now compete with the best in Europe - to keep it this way and build on our achievements - WE NEED YOU! Tara Jewell Home number (01865) 726995. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 14:33:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA07545 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:31:31 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07520 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:31:28 GMT Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:31:28 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: GB practice in March Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all players trying out for GB ================================ On Wednesday morning Sam wrote: >OKAY ... in the light of comments posted to this group I will attempt to >return the session to the original date - please bear with me while I >consult with the other managers, the venue hosts and some others. I am now happy to confirm that the practice will take place on: Saturday 11 March in Leicester (i.e. on the original date). The fields are booked (thanks to Paul Unwin) and the fine details (such as start & end times plus directions) will be posted to britdisc shortly (by Paul or Nancy Stebbing). PLEASE LET ALL THOSE NOT ON BRITDISC KNOW ABOUT THIS DATE If you cannot attend on this date (which clashes with the Warwick Indoors and the Disc Golf in Beaminster), please contact the relevant Divisional Manager. Open - Aram Flores aflores@lehman.com Womens - Terri Whitehead terri@cloe.demon.co.uk Juniors - Patch Winser patch@winser.com Masters - Wayne Davey w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk wayne@ultimate.freeserve.co.uk Mixed - Jeff Jackson Jeffrey.F.E.Jackson@soc.soton.ac.uk My apologies for the confusion caused - there were very good reasons for wanting to bring the date forward, but they are irrelevant now. It seems there were better reasons for putting it back to where it was! Cheers Sam Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 14:45:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA12213 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:43:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12180 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:43:17 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08434 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:43:17 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA08826 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:43:16 GMT Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:43:16 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200002031443.OAA08826@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 5th February 2000 Women's Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cannons Health Club, Leicester [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date. Contact Ruth Taylor Email Ruth.Taylor@bass.com Phone 07808 095621 (mobile) Newport Indoor Tournament (2 days) @ Newport, Wales [Indoor Ultimate] Max 16 teams. Entry fee: GBP 80.00 payable to Wayne Retter, sent to Neil Travers. NB Second team entries will not be accepted until Jan 17. Contact Neil Travers Address 5 Cross Road Uxbridge Middlesex UB8 2UQ Email druid@dreamer.demon.co.uk Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training [Women, Masters, Mixed] (1 day) @ Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) GB Training [Open] (1 day) @ Milton Keynes TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Aram Flores Email aflores@lehman.com Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 MIDLANDS Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Towcester Sports Centre, Towcester [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) LONDON Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, S. London [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Barry Email sibarry@hotmail.com Phone 020 7733 8155 (home) 07771 7155068 (mobile) BDGA Golf - Open Doubles (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 SCOTLAND Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Jack Kane Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Richard Clegg Email sneeekys@bigfoot.com Phone 0131 2294303 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 SOUTHERN Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kerry Maybury Email k.maybury@plymouth.ac.uk Phone 01752 256966 (home) 07788 420913 (mobile) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester, TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Paul Unwin Email punwin@grantham.ac.uk BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 17:16:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA04477 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:15:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04464 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:15:27 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01674; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:15:25 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA19762; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id MAA08732; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id RAA03818; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:14:19 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:14:19 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0210044A@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'ClaphamBullfrogs@onelist.com'" , "Britdisc (E-mail)" Cc: "'Mitchell, Ben [LBS]'" , "'Si and/or Jack'" , "'Bowles, Guy'" , "'Jolyon A. Thompson'" , "'Doug Milne'" , "'Matthew Hims'" , "'rafael freire'" , "'Nick Smith'" , "'Roger Thomson'" , "'Barry O'Kane'" , "'Evans, Alex'" , "'Alex Bowers'" , "'Rob Mitchell'" , "'sanjay lutchmiah'" , "'Wayne Retter'" , "'Andrew Tucker'" , "'Paolo.Nistri@ft.com'" Subject: GB Practice Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:14:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Open players, As announced in the "schedule" the Open team practice on February 12 will be held in MK along with the other divisions. The only reason for this is to make transport a bit easier. Be there, ready to play, by 10am. Thanks, Aram From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 12:14:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA21537 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:11:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21503 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:11:05 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA13864 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 12:11:04 GMT Received: from [195.92.122.203] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000139226 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2000 12:13:49 +0000 Message-ID: <389AC1D0.2CD777B5@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2000 12:11:09 +0000 From: JW Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Mr Men at Newport Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you are a Mr Man, going to the Newport indoors, please get in touch asap. Ta Jes* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 4 13:32:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA16503 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:29:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16496 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:29:43 GMT Received: from mailgate2.bass.com (mailgate2.bass.com [152.134.49.71]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22743 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:29:26 GMT Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:30:01 +0000 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1DJQK4R4>; Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:25:57 -0000 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E7BAA6E@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: Women arriving in Leicester tonight Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:28:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to let you know that we are all meeting in a pub called The Wyvern from 7pm onwards. "The Wyvern is at the southern end of Granby Street in the city centre. Find the railway station on the map we sent out and move your finger left a bit! There is a P marked on the map, head towards that from the station and you should see Granby Street, the Wyvern is only a few yards down there on the left. Limited parking is available on Granby Street and surrounding streets." See you there! Ruth RED ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete all records of the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without our prior written consent is strictly prohibited. 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Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 07:54:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA26283 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:47:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26276 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06240 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA25718 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200002070747.HAA25718@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 12th February 2000 GB Training [Women, Masters, Mixed] (1 day) @ Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) GB Training [Open] (1 day) @ Milton Keynes TBC [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Aram Flores Email aflores@lehman.com Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 MIDLANDS Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Towcester Sports Centre, Towcester [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) LONDON Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, S. London [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Barry Email sibarry@hotmail.com Phone 020 7733 8155 (home) 07771 715068 (mobile) BDGA Golf - Open Doubles (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 SCOTLAND Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Jack Kane Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Richard Clegg Email sneeekys@bigfoot.com Phone 0131 2294303 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 SOUTHERN Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kerry Maybury Email k.maybury@plymouth.ac.uk Phone 01752 256966 (home) 07788 420913 (mobile) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Paul Unwin Email punwin@grantham.ac.uk BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 08:05:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA27990 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:04:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27985 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:04:04 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f45.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.45]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA03222 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:04:03 GMT Received: (qmail 67359 invoked by uid 0); 7 Feb 2000 08:03:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000207080317.67358.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.35 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:03:16 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.35] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, CHughes@chelt.ac.uk, david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk, isla@isla.freeserve.co.uk, kawij@hotmail.com, pyuni@csv.warwick.ac.uk, NofrillsS@cardiff.ac.uk, ruth.taylor@bass.com, sally.riggs@ac.com, sgibbons@datamonitor.com, scotdisc@egroups.com, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, ben@ravilious.net, mohawks@hotmail.com, altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, alice.paterson@pmail.net, spl7ekb@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk, Emma.Sevitt@AllenOvery.com, jo@gnome25.freeserve.co.uk, Nadya.Hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk, StratfordS@cardiff.ac.uk, shirley.fuller@eu.effem.com, 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Subject: Womens Indoor Nationals Results Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 00:03:16 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Many Thanks to Ruth, Ben, Scott and Duncan. Tournament report to follow: 1st. Fierce (trophy) 2nd. BAF 3rd. Janet Hawes 4th. Organics 5th. Squaws (spirit) 6th. Bears 1 7th. York 8th. OW! 9th. Red (plate) 10th. Brixton Angels 11th. Mythago 12th. Disco Inferno 13th. Cardiff Angels 14th. Jesters 15th. Ro Sham Bo 16th. Bears 2 Vanessa White Womens Co-Ordinator ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 12:18:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA13283 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:14:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13257 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:14:46 GMT Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08530 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:14:46 GMT Received: from modem-13.dexfenfluramine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.89.141] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12Hn3y-0000Bi-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 12:14:43 +0000 Reply-To: "Ben Peek" From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Seeking Jesper and DJ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 10:59:14 -0000 Message-ID: <01bf715a$5ed9f180$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF715A.5ED9F180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF715A.5ED9F180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks Could Jesper and/or DJ from Phat 'Eds please contact me urgently = regarding Rimini Cheers, Ben=20 SuperFly big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF715A.5ED9F180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Folks
 
Could Jesper and/or DJ from Phat 'Eds please contact = me=20 urgently regarding Rimini
 
Cheers,
 
Ben
SuperFly
big_boy@super-fly.frees= erve.co.uk
 
------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF715A.5ED9F180-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 13:06:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA01393 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:04:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01378 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:04:53 GMT Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com (neodymium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.83]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24567 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:04:52 GMT Received: from [213.1.146.100] (helo=8945cjm20378) by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12HnqU-0002xm-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:04:50 +0000 Message-ID: <007f01bf716b$8a4ffb00$649201d5@8945cjm20378> From: "Laura Pearce" To: "britdisc" Subject: Contact request Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 12:59:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF716B.202CA7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF716B.202CA7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please could Si Barry of Angels, please contact me asap. (either email or phone 0181 642 2302). Cheers=20 Laura Pearce ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF716B.202CA7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please could Si Barry of Angels, please = contact me=20 asap.
(either email or phone 0181 642 = 2302).
 
Cheers
Laura Pearce
 
------=_NextPart_000_0069_01BF716B.202CA7A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 7 21:55:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA11115 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:54:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11097 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:54:13 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA06615 for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:54:07 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12Hw6g-000FqJ-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:54:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 21:11:11 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Newport Indoor Tournament - Results MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From the bottom up... 16 No Frills 2 15 Shrub 14 Slipdisc 13 No Frills 12 Whiplash 11 Baboom 10 Angels 9 Mud Culture 8 Discrespect 7 Look at Me 6 Mr Men 5 Blue Arse Flies 4 Point Blank 3 Skunks 2 Fluid Druids 1 Hammerage (MVP of Final: Zaid Rawi) SOTG: Look at Me for those of you that have never heard of some of these teams, or wonder at various teams' performance: Hammerage - London. Think First Touch with modifications... Point Blank - a (fairly) recent Leeds graduates team. Look at Me - a recent Southampton graduates team. Discrespect - a Bristol conglomerate fronted by Charlie Ben-Nathan Baboom - (ex?) Mwnci See (ish!) Shrub - fronted by Paul Meaney. Usually an Oxford-based conglomerate. A mostly pre-organised pickup team for this event. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter Newport Indoors 2000 TD Fluid Druids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 10:13:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA28542 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:11:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28533 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:11:19 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12688 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:11:17 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.226]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:09:55 +0000 Message-ID: <003d01bf721c$a2b93240$e2f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: contacts Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:09:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Folks, Anyone got an email contact for Balti from BAF? Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 10:37:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA07295 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:36:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07290 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:36:13 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17812 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:36:13 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.226]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:34:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf7220$1cdd2c40$e2f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: Contact for Balti Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 10:34:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk all, thanks for the info, but I managed to reach the man himself. Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 11:16:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA20022 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:14:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20009 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:14:39 GMT From: sally.riggs@ac.com Received: from locmr1001.ac.com ([212.161.27.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02230 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:14:38 GMT Received: from emehm1102.ac.com ([10.136.5.1]) by locmr1001.ac.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA08269 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:14:07 GMT Received: by emehm1102.ac.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 0025687F.005E0328 ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 17:06:51 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ANDERSEN CONSULTING To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <0025687F.005E018E.00@emehm1102.ac.com> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:14:02 +0000 Subject: Contact for Sue - MMJ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have an e-mail address or contact for Sue from Mild Mannered Janitors? Cheers beers Sally From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 12:12:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA10093 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:12:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10076 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:12:00 GMT Received: from exch-student.livjm.ac.uk (exch-student.livjm.ac.uk [150.204.254.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11766 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:11:59 GMT Received: by exch-student.livjm.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:11:24 -0000 Message-ID: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055A522FA2@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> From: Chewins John To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: FAO-Kerry Plymouth Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:11:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Kerry or anyone associated with running the regional at Plymouth. Forgot to say on the application that Point Blank need accomodation (if possible),as most of us still come under the category of "poor student". Cheers Chewy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 12:50:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA23087 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:49:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23036 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:49:21 GMT Received: from crane2.cf.ac.uk (crane2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10229 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:49:20 GMT Received: from maincf1r.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.100]) by crane2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12HrNg-0004OU-05; Mon, 07 Feb 2000 16:51:20 +0000 Received: from MAINCF1R/SpoolDir by MAINCF1R.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 7 Feb 00 16:51:20 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by MAINCF1R (Mercury 1.46); 7 Feb 00 16:51:09 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 16:51:00 GMT0BST Subject: Student Indoors Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk People have been asking who the final 16 teams are who will be joining us here at Cardiff on the Weekend of Feb 19th and 20th. As I have heard of no problems regarding any of these teams the list is as follows: SE: 1. Skunks 2. Strange Blue 3. Imperial 4. Mohawks Midlands: 1. Bears 2. Phat Eds 3. Purple Haze 4. Mwnci See SW: 1. OW! 2. No Frills 3. Mythago 4. Uriel Northern and Scotland: 1. Flatball Project 2. Far Flung 3. Ro Sham Bo 4. Jedi Seedings have not yet been finalised but the above results should give you an idea of the ability of your competitors. Please could all teams confirm their availability by writing to me on: Nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk Written invites are being sent tomorrow along with travel info. Any queries give me a shout, Si. simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 8 21:19:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA19144 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:16:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19138 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:16:57 GMT Received: from pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk (pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk [141.163.2.62]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04763 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:16:53 GMT Received: from csuf43.csd.plymouth.ac.uk ([141.163.188.1] helo=csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk) by pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 12II09-0006zS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 08 Feb 2000 21:16:49 +0000 Received: from CSUF43/SpoolDir by csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 8 Feb 100 21:16:48 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by CSUF43 (Mercury 1.44); 8 Feb 100 21:16:21 GMT From: "KERRY ANNE MAYBURY" Organization: University of Plymouth To: BritDisc Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:16:16 GMT Subject: South Open Regional Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody, Just to let you all know the South Regional in Plymouth Is now full, the line up is as follows: 1. Picnic 1 2. Picnic 2 3. Picnic 3 4. Skunks 1 5. Skunks 2 6. Skunks 3 7. Ureal 1 8. Ureal 2 9 Night Fever 1 10. Night Fever 2 11. B.A.F 1 12. B.A.F 2 13. Mr Men 14. D Bob 15. Golden Oldies 16. Point Blank Info and maps will be sent out shortly, all those of you who need accommodation if you could let me know rough numbers and which nights. See you all soon, Kerry xxx Picnic Pres. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 11:24:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA19037 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:13:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18643 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:13:06 GMT Received: from crane2.cf.ac.uk (crane2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11230 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:13:06 GMT Received: from parkcf4s.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.94]) by crane2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12IV32-0001SA-00; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 11:12:40 +0000 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 9 Feb 00 11:12:41 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.46); 9 Feb 00 11:12:19 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:12:11 GMT0BST Subject: Nationals info. Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a reminder for those of you needing details of the Student Indoor nationals: Cost: £75 payable to UWC Ultimate Frisbee Please send cheques to: Simon McSweeney, 38 Daniel Street, Cathays, Cardiff. CF24 4NY (I know its my fault for leaving it late but please can we have payment asap to cover our costs, cheers.) My phone no. is 01222 639170 One slight change: Play starts at 10.00 am both days NOT 9.00 am. Sorry for any inconvenience. What am I saying, where's the inconvenience in an extra hour of kip? This means that the captain's meeting will now be at 9.50am. The Student AGM will be on Saturday evening so please choose two enthusiastic (or as close as you can get) team members to come along. The social will be in the Union which is open until 1am. Official invites and maps are in the post so expect to receive those soon. I think that's about it. I can't stop writing AArgh Si. s i m p l e No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 9 16:53:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA12644 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:50:48 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12621 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:50:44 GMT Received: from trolley.tesco.net (trolley.tesco.net [194.73.73.166]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24895 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:50:43 GMT Received: from [62.172.84.173] (helo=ianstebb) by trolley.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12IaK9-00007h-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:50:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf731e$0b876920$ad54ac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: GB practice reminder Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:50:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To WOMEN, OPEN, MIXED, and MASTERS- GB practice is at Woughton Playing fields in Milton Keynes this Saturday. Arrivals at 9:30am. Practice starts at 10 sharp. Don't be late! nancy Directions for those of you who can't keep up--- >From the M1 get off at Exit 14 and turn towards Milton Keynes. First big roundabout take the second road, H6, next roundabout take a right. Keep going until you see the golden arches on the left. Turn right at the roundabout - I think it is H10, not positive. Go straight on that for a few roundabouts, at one point you will see a smoke stack on your right you are getting close. Look for signs to turn off to the left for Woughton on the Green. As soon as you turn off you will turn right and go under the road you were just on. Right after that you should see a sign for the sports fields parking lot on the right. Park and walk to the Pavilion. If you are coming from the other side of Milton Keynes than the M1 you should be arriving on the A421, just keep following it past the hospital you will come to two quick roundabouts. You should see signs for Woughton on the Green. Go straight and you should see signs for Woughton on the Green. It should be on the left shortly after the roundabouts. When you turn off look to turn right right away and then left into the parking lot. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 14:11:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA20004 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:01:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19583 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:00:39 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (mavea@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19401 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:00:38 GMT From: mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Received: from localhost (mavea@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20142 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:00:37 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: mavea owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:00:37 +0000 (GMT) To: Britdisc Subject: Warwick Indoors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Warwick Indoors is now full. Teams entered are: 1. Whiplash 2. Substance Abuse 3. Mud Culture 4. Fifth Element 5. Baboom 6. Mwnci See 7. Jesters 8. Blue Arse Flies 9. Angels 10. WAS 11. Look At Me 12. Janitors plus Bears 1-4! Any team who received an invite and has sent me a cheque but is not on that list, sorry, but you weren't quick enough. I did warn you that there were more invites than places available. I will destroy your cheque as soon as it arrives. Team contacts will be sent more details nearer the time. Sarah (Bears) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 14:35:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA24302 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:13:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24246 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:13:14 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21896 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:13:13 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id OAA18903; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:13:11 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000210141612.008e06e0@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:16:12 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: 2nd GB northern regional practice, sun 30 Jan. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm pleased to announce that the second GB northern region practice will be held on Sunday 20th February at the University of Manchester's Wythenshawe Sports Ground (many thanks to Rob Mitchell for organising the venue). Directions to the grounds are given at the end of this email. The practice will start at 11:30am, finishing at about 3:30pm. There are showers on site, but bring your own food if you want lunch - there's only chocolate/crisps/fizzy drinks in the clubhouse. I would encourage all those GB hopefuls (whether open, womens, mixed, masters or juniors) from the northern region to try and be there. Directions: Wythenshawe Sports Ground is immediately north west of junction 5 of the M60. To get there, get off the M60 at J5 and head south on the A5103. Take the first exit off the A5103 and turn right onto the B5167 (Wythenshawe Road). Take the first right onto the B5166 (Sale Road). Take the first right, then turn right again to get onto Yew Tree Lane. The sports grounds are signposted from here. The next left should take you back underneath the M60 just by J5; follow this road back west on the north side of the motorway to get to the sports grounds. Hope to see you all in Manchester, Jeff. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 10 14:36:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA25208 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:17:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25094 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:15:28 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18845 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:15:24 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id OAA19080; Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:14:52 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000210141753.008b4960@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:17:53 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: 2nd GB northern regional practice, sun 20 Feb. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Of course the deliberate mistake was in the subject line - I meant to change it to 20 Feb before sending... Apologies for cluttering in boxes, Jeff. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 12:28:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA27706 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:24:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27678 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:24:47 GMT Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11642 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:24:46 GMT Received: from [164.11.138.82] ([164.11.138.82]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id MAA27446 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:24:46 GMT From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" Reply-To: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: BritDisc Subject: -- No Subject -- Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:24:43 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could anyone let me know if there are any more places left on any of the regionals. Cheers Stuart. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 11 12:35:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA00846 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:33:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00829 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:33:30 GMT Received: from dove2.cf.ac.uk (dove2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.1.170]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03752 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:33:30 GMT Received: from maincf1r.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.100]) by dove2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12JFFU-0000wP-01; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:32:36 +0000 Received: from MAINCF1R/SpoolDir by MAINCF1R.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 11 Feb 00 12:32:53 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by MAINCF1R (Mercury 1.46); 11 Feb 00 12:32:38 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:32:33 GMT0BST Subject: woops (student indoors) Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies to the Flat Ball Project team. I'm afraid that I made a bit of a blunder when I sent out all of the details and maps to the teams in the nationals. I had a contact list and sent yours to the address that matched up with St. Andrews. However, it now appears that that address was not yours but your towns opem team (who's name escapes me). They may have been in touch with you but even if they haven't I am sending you another copy just in case. Please write back to confirm that you received this message. Si. (very) simple No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 13 11:49:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA08814 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:46:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08807 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:46:43 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27538 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:46:38 GMT Received: from cs22001.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.124.11] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 12JxTe-0004HV-00; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:46:10 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:46:34 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk (Natalie visser) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: For Vanessa White only X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: hdue1@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for using the whole list. Could Vanessa White get in touch? Thanks. Natalie Visser From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 13 21:49:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA27254 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:46:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27244 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:46:25 GMT Received: from pdbs0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk (pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk [212.139.128.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA27991 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:46:25 GMT Received: (qmail 27484 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2000 21:45:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO KEVIN) (212.139.148.101) by pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk with SMTP; 13 Feb 2000 21:45:11 -0000 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BF766B.944B3C00@KEVIN>; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:45:01 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF766B.944B3C00@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'student-ultimate@egroups.com'" Subject: GB Juniors Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:45:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA27245 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This email is aimed at any students that are young enough to play for GB juniors. If you are in your first year and you didn't take a year out, it is likely that you are young enough to play this year. We have to make a decision this week about whether we will be able to send a GB Junior team to the World Championships in Germany. The dates for the tournament are August 5th - 12th, and the cost will not be more than £400. Obviously, that is still a lot of money, but we hope to find cheaper options, and raise some sponsorship to reduce the amount. It is vital that Great Britain do well in all divisions at Worlds this year. The top six nations will then be invited (and paid for) to play in the World Games in Japan, 2001. Traditionally, the GB Juniors have always performed well, and this year should be no exception. What we need to know now is who wants to go, and who can actually afford to go. We need to pay a team deposit by next week, and start booking accommodation and flights. Accommodation will be in the form of either tents, or sleeping on the floor of a gymnasium. All meals will be provided. The cost of team kit should be provided by sponsorship. We must have at least 12 juniors, and would rather take a squad of 16. The age limit for juniors states, "You must not reach your 20th or subsequent birthday in the year of the tournament", so if you were born in 1981 or later, you are young enough to play. There is no lower age limit, and we already have a 12 year old that is good enough to play. If you are interested in playing, then please email me as soon as possible (Kev@cheerful.com). The next GB Junior practice will be on March 11th in Leicester. Full directions will be sent out. Before then, any juniors based in the North are welcome to attend the GB Northern training next Sunday (20th February) in Manchester. Hope to hear from you soon, Kevin Lowe (BUF Youth Coordinator) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 13 21:49:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA27237 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:46:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27227 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:46:19 GMT Received: from pdbs0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk (pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk [212.139.128.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA25514 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:46:14 GMT Received: (qmail 27698 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2000 21:45:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO KEVIN) (212.139.148.101) by pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk with SMTP; 13 Feb 2000 21:45:51 -0000 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BF766B.ABC42540@KEVIN>; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:45:40 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF766B.ABC42540@KEVIN> From: Kevin lowe To: "'youth.ultimate@listbot.com'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: National Junior Outdoors Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:45:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id VAA27228 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, The National Junior Outdoors will take on May 13th/14th at Adams Grammar School in Newport, Shropshire. We need at least 4 junior teams to make this viable, but the tournament could accommodate up to 12 teams. Free camping is available on the Saturday night, and the cost of the tournament will be £50 per team. Please let me know if you are considering sending a team, or have a few juniors that wish to join up with another group to form a team for the tournament. If there are not enough full teams to make the tournament viable, then it will either be turned into a Junior Hat Tournament (£5 per head), or we shall invite some weaker student teams to make up the numbers. Kevin Lowe. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 13 23:17:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA09843 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:14:58 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09838 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:14:56 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28909 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:14:56 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12K8E9-0007cI-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:14:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:41:19 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: -- No Subject -- References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Frisbee, Frisbee writes >Could anyone let me know if there are any more places left >on any of the regionals. and, Could anyone let me know what the rostering rules will be for Indoor Regionals/Nationals this year? Is it possible for players that don't play (and, more importantly [?] aren't on a roster for) Regionals to pick up with teams that do go to Nationals? Cheers Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 14 08:19:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA04498 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:47:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA04481 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:47:03 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17088 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29642 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200002140747.HAA29642@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 19th February 2000 Student Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Cardiff [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Si (No Frills) Email shmeebs@yahoo.com Saturday 26th February 2000 MIDLANDS Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Towcester Sports Centre, Towcester [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) LONDON Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, S. London [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Barry Email sibarry@hotmail.com Phone 020 7733 8155 (home) 07771 715068 (mobile) BDGA Golf - Open Doubles (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 SCOTLAND Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Jack Kane Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Richard Clegg Email sneeekys@bigfoot.com Phone 0131 2294303 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 SOUTHERN Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kerry Maybury Email k.maybury@plymouth.ac.uk Phone 01752 256966 (home) 07788 420913 (mobile) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Paul Unwin Email punwin@grantham.ac.uk BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 15th April 2000 TOUR I (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 TOUR III (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email nessa_white@hotmail.com Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 14 11:47:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA00239 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:20:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00154 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:20:02 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09413 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:20:02 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:14:29 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:18:11 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E50B@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Wayne Retter'" Subject: RE: -- No Subject -- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:18:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In answer to the first question; Last I heard there are still places in the Towcester event - I'm not sure about London or Scotland. Plymouth is full. In answer to the second question; If your team contact has explained the rules in the pack sent out. People who were not rostered to play at regionals can pick up for Nationals. You must have been rostered on a team to play at Regionals. In an attempt to maintain the quality of teams at nationals clubs must roster each team separately, and may not switch players between teams. This means clubs may not spread their good players around a number of teams, in an attempt to get a number of teams qualifying, and then load one team at Nationals, leaving the rest weaker. Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Wayne Retter[SMTP:postmaster@phidelta.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 11 February 2000 20:41 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: -- No Subject -- > > Frisbee, Frisbee writes > >Could anyone let me know if there are any more places left > >on any of the regionals. > > and, > > Could anyone let me know what the rostering rules will be for Indoor > Regionals/Nationals this year? > > Is it possible for players that don't play (and, more importantly [?] > aren't on a roster for) Regionals to pick up with teams that do go to > Nationals? > > Cheers > Wayne > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com > at work: 01737-273611 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 14 12:54:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13366 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:56:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13134 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:55:59 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21908 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:55:58 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1RZTD5B9>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:57:10 -0000 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F5D86@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: "'HUGHES, Chris'" Subject: RE: -- No Subject -- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:57:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >In answer to the first question; >Last I heard there are still places in the Towcester event - I'm not sure >about London or Scotland. Plymouth is full. The Scottish (and Northern, as it's become) Regionals has 14 teams paid up and entered, and up to 5 more 'in the post' over the weekend (I left for work before the post arrived this morning, so don't panic if you've sent one). We should definitely have 16 teams, and we may reach our maximum of 20. Anybody looking for a Regional to play in, it's still worth sending a cheque, but you'd better be quick about it. Thanks, Richard (Scuttler), Sneeeky's. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 14 17:35:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA05306 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:04:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05249 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:03:56 GMT Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27244 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 17:03:54 GMT Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00983; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:03:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from WZiants@SpencerStuart.com) Received: from 10.1.1.41 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:09:42 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by AMRMAILHUB with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1PQKDW39>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:04:37 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'HUGHES, Chris'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: "'sibarry@hotmail.com'" Subject: RE: Regionals Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 11:05:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those still thirsting for Indoor Regional action, come to the nation's capital! We guarantee Quality Ultimate and hot showers (probably) in the tranquil grounds of one of England's top posh schools, yet just 4 miles from the heady glamour of London's busy West End. Angels look forward to welcoming you to our manor. LONDON Indoor Regionals (2 days) 26/27 Feb @ College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, S. London Contact Simon Barry Email sibarry@hotmail.com Phone 020 7733 8155 (home) 07771 715068 (mobile) Cheers Wayne Angels, Overflow, Albatross, whoever... smile at me and I'll play for you too -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] Sent: 14 February 2000 11:18 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; 'Wayne Retter' Subject: RE: Regionals ...Last I heard there are still places in the Towcester event - I'm not sure about London or Scotland. Plymouth is full. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 02:09:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA20253 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:31:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20241 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:31:37 GMT Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23809 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:31:37 GMT Received: from Beastage.brad.ac.uk (max-152.dial.brad.ac.uk [143.53.239.152]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA15806 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:31:37 GMT From: Nicolas Mackin To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Calling PDQ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 01:32:26 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1 Build (3) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Can someone from PDQ please get in touch. Or can someone please mail me their contact details. Cheers, Nick. Bradford Disciples Treasurer ----------------------- Nicolas Mackin N.Mackin@bradford.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 11:45:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA07890 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:10:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07684 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:10:17 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27656 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:10:14 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1RZTD5TW>; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:11:09 -0000 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F5D92@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Scottish & Northern Regional Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:11:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As of yesterday, the Scottish & Northern Regional reached it's first target of 16 teams. We can take 20, and have three other possible entries, so there is still room for one more team. If anybody is interested, just let me know. If we don't get to 20 teams within the next week or so, then the tournament is closed at 16 teams. The first 16, who are definitely in (i.e. we're going to cash your cheques!) are - 1. Sneeeky's 1 (Edinburgh) 2. Sneeeky's 2 (Edinburgh) 3. Northern Lights (Durham) 4. Ro Sham Bo 1 (Edinburgh) 5. Ro Sham Bo 2 (Edinburgh) 6. Ro Sham Bo 3 (Edinburgh) 7. Flatball Project 1 (St. Andrews) 8. Flatball Project 2 (St. Andrews) 9. Mud Culture 1 (Glasgow) 10. Mud Culture 2 (Glasgow) 11. Mud Culture 3 (Glasgow) 12. Mud Culture 4 (Glasgow) 13. Top Shelf Sleeze (St. Andrews) 14. Disciples (Bradford) 15. The Three Frogs (Manchester) 16. Shooting Stars (Dundee) Currently first reserves - 17. Calimocho (Edinburgh) Still waiting on entries from - 18. BOB (Bradford) 19. WYWL Allstars (Leeds) Information and directions etc. will follow shortly. In the meantime, could each of the first 16 teams let me know if they're going to need accomodation, and give me a rough idea of numbers coming. Thanks, Richard (Scuttler), Sneeeky's. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 13:56:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA13156 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:00:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13004 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:59:54 GMT Received: from web1404.mail.yahoo.com (web1404.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.168]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15736 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:59:53 GMT Received: (qmail 16039 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Feb 2000 12:59:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20000215125949.16038.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.163.1.23] by web1404.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:59:49 PST Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 04:59:49 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Atkinson?= Subject: I need some discs To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am helping to organise the South-West Qualifiers in Plymouth but as yet I have been unable to get hold of some new discs to use as match discs. Please can anyone who has four or five WHITE discs of any design for sale reply giving me details of cost etc. I need to get these asap so any help will be appreciated. Cheers Blagger (Picnic & Nightfever) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 15:09:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA08728 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:13:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08714 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:13:48 GMT Received: from utsire.cherwell.com (smtp.cherwell.com [193.82.249.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27128 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:13:46 GMT Received: from mann ([193.82.249.226]) by utsire.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:12:12 +0000 Message-ID: <029901bf77be$9719b840$e2f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: attn: Damian Mudge Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:11:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk anyone got a contact for damian mudge (Look At Me)? thanks, Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 15 19:26:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA01487 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:37:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01340 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:36:48 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA03355 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:36:47 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri1-004.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.134]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA03382 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:46:19 GMT Message-ID: <02d401bf77e4$4cc08f00$86a492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: London/Essex players needed Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:57:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As a result of the Sunday Times Style magazine article we've had a health club in Billericay approach us with a view to playing ultimate. Is there any one in the area who would be willing to help get them started? I don't suppose this need be a major commitment - just show them the ropes. Please get back to me soon if you can help. Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 06:06:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id FAA09025 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:14:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09016 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:14:22 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f18.hotmail.com [209.185.131.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA04347 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 05:14:21 GMT Received: (qmail 88546 invoked by uid 0); 16 Feb 2000 05:13:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20000216051348.88545.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.204 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:13:48 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.204] From: "Angels Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE Regionals Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:13:48 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There are still some places for teams at the SE regional qualifiers This is a 2 court tournament, next to a large park on one side, endless playing fields on the other, the cafes and bars of Dulwich Village at the end of the road, free on site parking, and accommodation for visiting teams LONDON Indoor Regionals (2 days) 26/27 Feb @ College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, S. London Contact Simon Barry Email sibarry@hotmail.com Phone 020 7733 8155 (home) 07771 715068 (mobile) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 10:24:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA06907 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:32:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06743 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:31:41 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17801 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:31:40 GMT Received: from sdc1.demon.co.uk ([194.222.153.201]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12L0o7-0003y2-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:31:40 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:30:25 +0000 To: BRITDISC From: Simon Church Subject: GB Masters - jacket left at practice MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Trial Version 3.05 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick note that I collected for safekeeping a 'British Open' jacket that had been left tied round the goalposts where the GB masters had been practicing. There was nothing to ID the owner who can have it back if they make themselves known. Sorry about the delay in posting this but I have had a bitch of a head cold since the practice -- Simon Church From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 13:48:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA14533 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:58:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14412 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:57:50 GMT Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19808 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:57:50 GMT Received: from [212.140.83.112] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12L41c-00006p-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:57:48 +0000 Message-ID: <000501bf787d$a58587a0$70538cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Towcester Regionals Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:52:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Towcester is now Full!!! Not to mention it is way past the registration deadline (you offenders know who you are...) Don't send me any more entries or cheques or e-mails asking if you can get in at the last minute, please. The answer is no. (There is a small possibility of a pick-up team, as one entry is falling apart. I'll post to britdisc if you can pick-up.) nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 16 13:52:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA17060 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:06:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16643 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:04:57 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13924 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:04:55 GMT Received: from modem-42.einsteinium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.69.42] helo=fujitsu-pii-233) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12L48S-0008ML-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:04:53 +0000 Reply-To: "Ben Peek" From: "Ben Peek" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Discs for sale Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:03:50 -0000 Message-ID: <01bf787e$44b9c160$LocalHost@fujitsu-pii-233> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF787E.44B9C160" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF787E.44B9C160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone Doesn't that indoor season really wreck your discs? All those jagged = edges ripping your fingers to bits Well don't panic! SuperFly have got some discs for sale They're white with either a purple and green or orange and green design. Priced at 6 pounds each - we might be able to negotiate a deal for 10 or = more. Go on, you know you want to! Cheers Ben SuperFly big_boy@super-fly.freeserve.co.uk home: 0115 985 6513 mob: 07971 699 702 ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF787E.44B9C160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone
 
Doesn't that = indoor season=20 really wreck your discs? All those jagged edges ripping your fingers to=20 bits
 
Well don't panic!
 
SuperFly have got some discs for sale
 
They're white with either a purple and green or = orange and=20 green design.
 
Priced at 6 pounds each - we might be able to = negotiate a deal=20 for 10 or more.
 
Go on, you know you want = to!
 
Cheers
 
Ben
SuperFly
big_boy@super-fly.frees= erve.co.uk
home: 0115 985 6513
mob: 07971 699 = 702
------=_NextPart_000_0097_01BF787E.44B9C160-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 12:30:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA09409 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:35:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09331 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:35:04 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11812 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:35:02 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <108X429W>; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:36:17 -0000 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F5DA4@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Scottish & Northern Regional Update - One Place Left Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:36:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We now have 19 teams entered for the Scottish & Northern Regional. Having had a change of heart, and not wanting to turn anybody down, we've decided to go with a 20 team format anyway, so everybody who has sent an entry so far is definitely in. If we don't get one more entry, we'll put a pick-up team in at 20. So far, nobody's let me know if their team wants accomodation organised or not. The sooner the better, thanks. Teams are - > 1. Sneeeky's 1 (Edinburgh) > 2. Sneeeky's 2 (Edinburgh) > 3. Northern Lights (Durham) > 4. Ro Sham Bo 1 (Edinburgh) > 5. Ro Sham Bo 2 (Edinburgh) > 6. Ro Sham Bo 3 (Edinburgh) > 7. Flatball Project 1 (St. Andrews) > 8. Flatball Project 2 (St. Andrews) > 9. Mud Culture 1 (Glasgow) > 10. Mud Culture 2 (Glasgow) > 11. Mud Culture 3 (Glasgow) > 12. Mud Culture 4 (Glasgow) > 13. Top Shelf Sleaze (St. Andrews) > 14. Disciples (Bradford) > 15. The Three Frogs (Manchester) > 16. Shooting Stars (Dundee) > 17. Calimocho (Edinburgh) > 18. BOB (Bradford) > 19. WYWL Allstars (Leeds) > Teams that may be unfamiliar to some - Top Shelf Sleaze - St. Andrews graduates, most (all?) have played for Flying Sorcerors in the last couple of years. The Three Frogs - vaguely Fingers 6-ish (but not that much?), with a little help from their friends. Calimocho - co-ed team being put together by 'Wee' Jim McDonald, think Gael Force with some new faces. WYWL Allstars - Leeds-based mix of mainly Catch and Chevron players, possibly with a guest appearance by a certain Edinburgh-based Ginger. > Thanks, > Richard (Scuttler), > Sneeeky's. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 14:15:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA13738 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13659 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:38 GMT Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22577 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:37 GMT Received: from [212.140.79.184] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12LQr7-0002S4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:29 +0000 Message-ID: <002301bf7949$fbef4a00$b84f8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Towcester seedings Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:15:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For anyone interested- here are the seedings for Towcester Regionals. 1. Mexican Horse Bandits 2. Chevron 3. Hammerage 4. Druid OAPs 5. Shrub 6. Baboom 7. Bears 1 8. Whiplash 9. Slipdisc 10. Red 11. Mild Mannered Janitors 12. Jedi Children 13. Bears 2 14. Appocolypse 15. Hulltimate There is a 16th team- pickups! So if you want to play- let me know. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 17 14:16:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA13841 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:21:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13683 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:40 GMT Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05644 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:36 GMT Received: from [212.140.79.184] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12LQr9-0002S4-00; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:32 +0000 Message-ID: <002401bf7949$fd821f00$b84f8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Cc: , Subject: Towcester regionals pick-up team Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To anyone interested in playing some disc- Towcester regionals only has 15 teams- so there is space for a pick-up team. If you would like to play, please let me know. If there are enough players, you can 'roster' and advance through the tournament like any other team. I am keeping track of how many people want to play- so do please let me know. That way, I can prevent 20 people from showing up and not getting enough pitch time. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 13:08:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA21271 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:07:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21220 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:07:20 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f130.hotmail.com [216.32.181.130]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29046 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:07:19 GMT Received: (qmail 75593 invoked by uid 0); 18 Feb 2000 12:06:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000218120640.75592.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.200.241.5 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:06:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [194.200.241.5] From: "Adam Milner" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Dave Trovell Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:06:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone give me his e-mail address? cheers Adam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 18 15:04:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA12443 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:33:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12370 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:33:13 GMT Received: from finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net (finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net [212.225.36.83]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21544 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:33:07 GMT Received: from host-73-100.dial.in2home.co.uk ([212.225.18.100]) by finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12LoSu-0006VN-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:33:04 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:01:29 +0100 Subject: central london pickup From: "mungo sheppard" To: britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A reminder to everyone in London, especially those who have nothing to do on Sunday afternoons, that the pickup practice generally known as the "Bad Habits" pickup will be running in Hyde Park as usual. We will be meeting on the grass behind the "speakers" on speakers corner at 2:00 pm and then move to where the grass is greener when we have enough people to do drills or play. Punishment for lateness is the wandering around you will have to do to find us. Hungover or not, we would like to see you there, and who knows, you might get something out of it. If you want to shoot the breeze, you can reach me on: (H) 020 7435 3018 (M) 07801 547 083 "And you will know you have the disc, when I lay my hammer upon thee". Mungo "There's nothing as hard as a Sheppard". From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 19 00:39:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA00032 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:01:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00018 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:01:04 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09064 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:01:04 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12LxKV-000CFq-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:01:02 +0000 Message-ID: <1WREJGA0rdr4Ew3Q@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:51:16 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I was browsing through back-issues of Ultimatum when I came across this: BUF OUTDOOR NATIONALS (May 1993 - Trent Park) Final - Hombres vs Stan: "...and then Harry gets the catch of the match right in front of the Sky Sports camera to make it 20-18..." Was/is there any Sky Sports footage? Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 at work: 01737-273611 wayne_retter@watsonwyatt.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 19 02:23:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA22390 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:43:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA22364 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:43:45 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23262 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 01:43:40 GMT Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:43:34 +0100 Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de by irafs1 (PP) with ESMTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:43:32 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:43:28 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Last call for beach ultimate in Gran Canaria Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last call for the 1st Beach Ultimate tournament in Las Palmas, the capitol of the island of Gran Canaria, Spain ! The tournament is on March 17-19, but the deadline on February 28th is approaching fast ! Check out the web page http://club.idecnet.com/~iag/ for more information (if you are using Netscape you might experience problems; try http://www.eva-thomas.de/gc/piopio.html as an alternative). Find out who else will be there: http://club.idecnet.com/~iag/preinscripcion.htm While Gran Canaria is pretty far for most of us there are plenty of things to do on this holiday island before and after the tournament and the travel there might well be worth it. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 13:41:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA18742 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:37:00 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14819 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:10:16 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27749 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:47:01 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA05713 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200002210747.HAA05713@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 26th February 2000 MIDLANDS Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Towcester Sports Centre, Towcester [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) LONDON Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ College Sports Centre, Dulwich Village, S. London [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Simon Barry Email sibarry@hotmail.com Phone 020 7733 8155 (home) 07771 715068 (mobile) BDGA Golf - Open Doubles (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Contact Tom Soper#Neal; Miles Phone 0117 377 1579 0117 909 3688 SCOTLAND Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Jack Kane Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Richard Clegg Email sneeekys@bigfoot.com Phone 0131 2294303 (home) Saturday 4th March 2000 SOUTHERN Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kerry Maybury Email k.maybury@plymouth.ac.uk Phone 01752 256966 (home) 07788 420913 (mobile) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Paul Unwin Email punwin@grantham.ac.uk BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - TBC (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Skunks (Neil Pennington) Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact TBA Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 17:20:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA15996 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:16:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15841 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:16:33 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16731 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:16:31 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12MwRi-0006AZ-00; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:16:30 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 21 Feb 00 17:16:29 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 21 Feb 00 17:16:27 +0000 From: "Pete Coy" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:16:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Student ultimate general meeting X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <13FC9B54922@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 0100,0100,0100Just encase you weren't there heres wh= at happened. Times New RomanMinutes= of the Student Ultimate General meeting, Meeting Room 2, Cardiff University Students Union, Saturday the 19th February 2000, 8:30pm>. Those in attendance: 3 representatives from Phat=92eds, 2 No Frills, 2 Disc Doctors,= 2 Mwnci See, 2 Uriel, 2 Purple Haze, 2 Bears, 3 Ro-Sham-Bo, 2 Flatball Project, an= d 2 representatives from Far Flung. First item, Student Regional Team Finals.(April 1st-2nd) Purpose of regional teams is to help raise profile of student ultimate, so that the sport is taken more seriously by university A.U.s. The Regional Team T-shirts/kit should be part of this, therefore, in nice big letters (so everyone can see it when you are wondering around your university) on the shirt should be some like =93Midlands/Northern/Scottish/South East/South West Student Regional Ultimate Team 2000=94. It would be helpful if each region played in a different colou= r, the only region to have decided on a colour is the Midlands, who will play in Grey, when the other regions pick their colour they should put a note out on egroups. Regional Team Finals to take place in Leicester on the 1st and= 2nd of April, starting midday Saturday and finishing early afternoon Sunday. Second item, Election of new student Co-ordina= tor. At the BUF AGM it was decided that students should elect the student co-ordinator themselves. Therefore, the election for BUF National Student Co-ordinator will take place at the General Meeting of student Ultimate to be held on the Saturday night of Student Outdoors (6th May). Third item, Reorganising the regions. The discussion was preceded by presenting the recommendations of Spicer, as posted on egroups Friday , 26 Nov. 1999, titled =91regions a new look=92. And this document formed much of the bas= is for the discussion. It was acknowledged that no decision could be made at th= is time, and that the general meeting at student outdoors would be the best time and place at which to make a decision, by vote, on a 1 club 1 = vote system. After not a great deal of discussion it was acknowledged that the present situation regarding the region of Scotland and the North, 8 hours travelling time between Aberdeen and Bradford and the number of teams in Scotland, warranted a separate region for Scotland. Creating 5 regions; Scotland, The North, The Midlands, The South West and The East. To create the new region of the North it was agreed that Sheffield and Manchester should be included in the North, Sheffield and Manchester being far closer to teams such as Leeds than they were to Warwick. To compensate for the lose of Sheffield and Manchester, it was= agreed that Oxford should be included within the Midlands, being closer to Warwick than either Manchester or Sheffield were. Furthermore, it was agreed, as suggested in Spicers=92s e-mail= , that the Skunks (Southampton) should become part of the South West Region, as it was pointed out that it only took one and a half hours to ge= t from Exeter to Southampton. This then leaves us with 5 regions looking like this: Scotland. Falling Skies (Aberdeen) The North. Discip= les (Bradford) Far Flung (Glasgow) = Fingers 6 (Manchester) Flatball Project (St=92 Andrews) Phat=92= eds (Sheffield) Ro-Sham-Bo (Edinburgh) Jedi Chil= dren (Leeds) Shooting Stars (Dundee) Northern Lights= (Durham) The Source (Strathclyde) = The Fish (Lancaster) Dross Magic (Stirling) Yorkie = Bar Kids (York) Hulltimate (Hull) = New Team (Liverpool) The Midlands. = The South West. Purple Haze (Loughborough) = Mythago (Bristol) Superfly (Nottingham) = No Frills (Cardiff) G7 (Grantham) = Sublime Patriots (Portsmouth) Jesters (Leicester) Sku= nks (Southampton) Bears (Warwick) = Uriel (Exeter) Mwnci See (Aberystwyth) = UWE (UWE) OW! (Oxford) = FUBAR (Cheltenham) Birmingham The South East. Strange Blue (Cambridge) Jesus College (Cambridge) Disc Doctors (Imperial) Falcons (Brunel) Mohawks (Sussex) None of the Above (King=92s College) Toxic Ninja Attack (Canterbury) Under Cover Lovers (UCL) Surreal Genocide (Guildford) It was agreed that the finals should remain as 16 team event, with 3 qualifying places for each region, and an extra qualifying place going to the region from which the previous years winner came. This would not mean an automatic place for the previous years winner, but rather an extra team qualifying from their region. Furthermore it was agreed that 'Not the Nationals', was a good= way to promote the growth of student ultimate and should become a regular fixture on the student ultimate calender. Fourth item, Student Outdoor Finals. (May 6th/7th) At the time of the meeting there had only been one bid, subsequently there have been two more. Other items. A., Challis (Bears) asked s= hould we have a women=92s student nationals? The general consensus was that there would be enough teams to make this viable. Any volunteers? B., Questions were asked ab= out whether there was an official set of student indoor rules, or for that matter an official set of indoor rules, = and that it would be very useful if some could be provided by the BUF, or whatever it becomes, perhaps as part of the deal with subscription. And then we all went and made merry late into the night... There is obviously a lot to be discussed here, amongst those p= resent there was broad agreement that this, especially the change to the regions, was the way forward. A vote will be held at Student Outdoors (May 6th/7th) to decide, in the mean time discuss. Peter Coy (Student Co-ordinator)Arial From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 18:10:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA11681 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:07:35 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11569 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:07:10 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05106 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:04:49 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:03:50 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:59:37 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Richie Smart Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:59:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a phone number or e-mail address for him? Richie are you out there? Please let me know ASAP Cheers Dave > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 21 19:23:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA24439 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:19:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04779 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:42:25 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05005 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:03:37 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:58:06 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:01:58 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E53A@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Tour Dates Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:01:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, You may have noticed that the Tour Dates are now on the BUF Diary. These are not as originally planned, for which I duly apologise, however, we were hampered by lack of bids, and unavailability of venues. These are the finalised venues, and the Tour invites will be going out to teams very soon. Tour 1 - April 29/30 (Bank Holiday w/e - sorry) Swindon; Layout Dreams Tour 2 - May 20/21 - Towcester; Nancy Stebbing Tour 3 - June 24/25 - Southampton; Skunks Tour 4 - July 15/16 - Birmingham Layout Dreams & Slipdisc You will note that there is no split venue, against the decision at the AGM. Again due to lack of dates / venues / TD's and the perceived planning problems of a North / South split, after discussions both the U8C, and the BUF committee agreed to remove the split tour, and retable the possibility with considerations to the tour at next years agm, if it was felt to be still viable. Please don't contact individual TD's, or attempt to send deposits to Dora, until you have received instruction packs. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 09:35:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA01774 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:32:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01686 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:32:24 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01887 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:23:33 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12N2Au-000Epr-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:23:33 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 23:22:05 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 References: <1WREJGA0rdr4Ew3Q@phidelta.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1WREJGA0rdr4Ew3Q@phidelta.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all that think they have this footage on tape, somewhere... Sure, I'd love to see it, sometime... Strange that EVERYBODY remembers that Jackie Potter ("Stan, ex-Hombres") spiked the disc ("...a nasty habit that she learned whilst playing for the Hombres) in celebration, and then realised that she wasn't inside the 'zone... Several even wonder if that's why she moved to Australia. Wayne Wayne Retter writes >I was browsing through back-issues of Ultimatum when I came across this: > >BUF OUTDOOR NATIONALS (May 1993 - Trent Park) >Final - Hombres vs Stan: "...and then Harry gets the catch of the match >right in front of the Sky Sports camera to make it 20-18..." > >Was/is there any Sky Sports footage? > >Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 09:41:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA05707 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:40:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05700 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:40:53 GMT Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11300 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:40:51 GMT Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1DK1CFHZ>; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:40:51 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104A944@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:40:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And who won the game? Stan or Hombres? I think Jackie spiked the disk 'cos she scored (or thought she had scored) on ToyBoy - let's face it he probably deserved it and if there's anyone you would have wanted to spike.. rt -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk] Sent: 21 February 2000 23:22 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 Thanks to all that think they have this footage on tape, somewhere... Sure, I'd love to see it, sometime... Strange that EVERYBODY remembers that Jackie Potter ("Stan, ex-Hombres") spiked the disc ("...a nasty habit that she learned whilst playing for the Hombres) in celebration, and then realised that she wasn't inside the 'zone... Several even wonder if that's why she moved to Australia. Wayne Wayne Retter writes >I was browsing through back-issues of Ultimatum when I came across this: > >BUF OUTDOOR NATIONALS (May 1993 - Trent Park) >Final - Hombres vs Stan: "...and then Harry gets the catch of the match >right in front of the Sky Sports camera to make it 20-18..." > >Was/is there any Sky Sports footage? > >Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 22 13:54:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA02022 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:50:34 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02003 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:50:31 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03214 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:50:31 GMT Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12NFht-0006Vt-02; Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:50:29 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 22 Feb 00 13:50:30 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 22 Feb 00 13:50:27 +0000 From: "J.Fryer" To: Britdisc Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:50:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Indoor Nationals CC: ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk, nofrillss@cardiff.ac.uk, "Ryan Butler" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <73D765A110A@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here are the results in full after a thoroughly competitive weekend of student ultimate in cardiff. 1. Bears 2. Ro Sham Bo 3. Far Flung 4. Phat Eds 5. Strange Blue 6. No Frills 7. Mythago 8. Skunks 9. Ow ! Plate 10. Imperial 11. Mohawks 12. Mwnci See 13. Jedi Spoon 14. Purple Haze 15. Uriel 16. Flatball Project Spirit of the game Jedi M.V.P Challis (Bears) Will Parker award for most improved team: Skunks The venue for the nationals was absolutely perfect with two sports halls in the same sports centre giving two large pitches to play all the games. Unfortunately for OW!, their bad luck in reaching tournaments continued as they crucially missed their first two games and finally had a full squad three points into their third match. By this time it was already too late to reach the top eight and they were left with only the plate to concentrate on. The biggest shock of the group matches was the first defeat in two years for Bears. They lost by one point to Ro Sham Bo, who were clearly much stronger than there no. 12 seed suggested. Bears continued to play far below potential for the rest of the day and sneaked through their group in second position. No Frills and Strange Blue both captilised on Northern Champions Flatball Project weakened team from that which won their regionals to both reach the quarter final stage. The highly competitive group brought only close defeats in all the matches and both Mohawks and Uriel were very unlucky not progress. In the second group of eight, much fancied Skunks lost to Far Flung early on. Both teams traded for much of the match but Far Flung pulled away late on to win. After convincing victories in early matches the potential group decider of Phat 'Eds and Far Flung was played out in the main sports hall. Far Flung always seemed to be in control in a very tight match, but with two minutes left Phat 'Eds were down 5-3. A quick score and turn over left a one point deficit with a minute left, unfortunately an inexplicable drop in the zone seemed to have lost the match for sheffield. But in a dramatic finish Phat 'Eds got a big D and then scored in the dying seconds. 5-5 in a match played with great spirit. Phat 'Eds only needed only to beat skunks now to win the group and did so comfortably 6-2, to leave Far Flung second only on goal difference. Mythago came through as the fourth placed team in the group. Thanks to a welsh rugby victory the union was a safe place to have the party, and it was Jedi who seemed to be making most of the noise at the bar. A ten o'clock start saw comfortable quarter final victories for Ro Sham Bo and Phat 'eds, but the other two both went to sudden death. First No Frills and Far Flung had a match in which the lead swung either way and was nail biting to the death. At 7-7 and into the cap a blade into the zone was at first fumbled then recaught by Stu from No Frills, unfortunately he appeared to straddle the back of the zone indoing so and the disk was sent back. The scots turned them over and Far Flung scored at the other end, despite the brilliant home crowd support. Bears only sneaked through 7-6 against skunks, after leading 6-4 with a couple of minutes to go, but in the pressure of sudden death they held their nerve. Both the semi finals were over before they started as Ro Sham Bo and Bears led from early on and never surrendered their advantages. Bears were now playing nearer the standard they had been expected to play at, and the final was eagerly anticipated. Unfortunately for the neutrals in the crowd the final was never close. In fact, after about twenty minutes Bears led 12-0 and there were chants of 'Bagel' and ironic cheers every time a Bear caught the disk. Ro Sham Bo simply could not break down the Bears defence, and although they rallied late on they lost a convincing 14- 5. Challis was made MVP after making numerous block in the final, and the new faces of Jedi recieved the spirit award. A big thanks to all those who attended, Si and Stu from No Frills for organising the tournament, and Si Weeks for writing the schedule. BUT remember 5 Aside Doesn't Count See you outdoors Jon Fryer Phat 'Eds From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 00:03:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA10003 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:00:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09979 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:00:29 GMT Received: from rosebay.matra.com.au ([203.18.150.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07580 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:00:19 GMT Received: from b-robins (ppp3.matra.com.au [203.18.150.33]) by rosebay.matra.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05532 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:12:10 +1100 Message-Id: <200002230012.LAA05532@rosebay.matra.com.au> From: "B & J Robins" To: Subject: Fw: RE: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:52:20 +1100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all the 'friends' who kindly forwarded this string of messages to me downunder to ensure that I did not escape yet further embarassment!!!!:):) Bastards the lot of ya'!!!!!! Can't a lass make one easy mistake:):):):) In my defence - I was young and stupid so it makes it even easier to do - but since then have had a full brain (and accent) transplant and this seems to have cured the problem!!!! And I hope everyone also remembers the EXACT same mistake that Oz Friere made only a few weeks later at the Samurai tournament having waved the disc in the defenders face!!!!:):):):):) See it is easy to do ... Anyway - nice to know some things never get forgotten - can't be too long before everyone who knows about that incident is either dead or crippled!! Then maybe it will be safe to return to my homeland:) Jackie PS. Roger - I did not spike the disc when I scored against Toyboy - that one was well and truly in the endzone AND on the Sky footage !!!!:):) ... --- Seeya, Jackie & Brucie huckit@matra.com.au > > >From: Max Keogh > >To: 'Roger Thomson' > >CC: "Bruce & Jackie Robins (E-mail)" > >Subject: RE: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 > >Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:32:43 -0000 > > > >Good point Rog. > >It's always good to remind Potter about that spike every now and then. > > > >Anyway, your first question. Hmm, can't seem to remember. Must be my age. > > > >Max > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Roger Thomson [mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] > >Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 9:41 AM > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > >Subject: RE: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 > > > > > >And who won the game? Stan or Hombres? > > > >I think Jackie spiked the disk 'cos she scored (or thought she had scored) > >on ToyBoy - let's face it he probably deserved it and if there's anyone you > >would have wanted to spike.. > > > >rt > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk] > >Sent: 21 February 2000 23:22 > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > >Subject: Re: Sky Sports at BUF National Outdoors 1993 > > > > > > > >Thanks to all that think they have this footage on tape, somewhere... > >Sure, I'd love to see it, sometime... > > > >Strange that EVERYBODY remembers that Jackie Potter ("Stan, ex-Hombres") > >spiked the disc ("...a nasty habit that she learned whilst playing for > >the Hombres) in celebration, and then realised that she wasn't inside > >the 'zone... > > > >Several even wonder if that's why she moved to Australia. > > > >Wayne > > > >Wayne Retter writes > > >I was browsing through back-issues of Ultimatum when I came across this: > > > > > >BUF OUTDOOR NATIONALS (May 1993 - Trent Park) > > >Final - Hombres vs Stan: "...and then Harry gets the catch of the match > > >right in front of the Sky Sports camera to make it 20-18..." > > > > > >Was/is there any Sky Sports footage? > > > > > >Wayne > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >Wayne Retter > >at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com > >at work: 01737-273611 > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 12:43:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA29916 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:40:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29893 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:40:19 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06389 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:40:19 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12Nb5W-0003lj-02; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:40:18 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 23 Feb 00 12:40:18 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 23 Feb 00 12:40:16 +0000 From: "Pete Coy" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:40:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Bids for student Outdoors X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, The deadline for making a bid for Student Outdoors is Friday the 3rd of March, this is so that a decission can be made and, hopefully, invites sent out before we break up for easter. Pete Coy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 12:43:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA00772 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:42:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00756 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:42:42 GMT Received: from crane2.cf.ac.uk (crane2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06612 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:42:33 GMT Received: from nprdcf1r.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.101]) by crane2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Nb7D-0008CU-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:42:03 +0000 Received: from NPRDCF1R/SpoolDir by NPRDCF1R.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 23 Feb 00 12:41:58 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by NPRDCF1R (Mercury 1.46); 23 Feb 00 12:41:53 GMT0BST From: "Stu " To: dritdisc Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:41:48 GMT0BST Subject: Looking for Si Moore ? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If Si Moore is out there or anyone knows his contact address then there are a bunch of students looking for you ? Stu No Frills & D.S.M. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 14:27:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA00938 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:23:10 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08877 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:10:28 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10933 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:10:27 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id OAA22475 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:09:14 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma022473; Wed, 23 Feb 00 14:09:14 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id OAA10984 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:09:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id OAA03090 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:08:31 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900007158855; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:10:27 +0100 To: Subject: DIRECTIONS TO REGIONALS THIS WEEKEND Message-ID: <0056900007158855000002L052*@MHS> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:10:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 02/23/00 14:06:30" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA08879 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does any one have directions of where the London regionals is being held this weekend? and what teams are going... cheers Hannah From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 14:28:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA03165 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:27:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10776 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:21:15 GMT Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (web3802.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.173]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02570 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:21:11 GMT Message-ID: <20000223132041.7685.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.6.81.13] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:20:41 EST Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:20:41 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?clare=20walker?= To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi - just wondering if you can let me know of upcoming ultimate tournies etc and teams around the Uk. I am currently working in Milton Keynes, and have a few friends interested in playing. Thanks, Clare Walker _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 19:23:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA13524 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:20:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13519 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:20:36 GMT Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01945 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:20:27 GMT Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06735; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:20:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from WZiants@SpencerStuart.com) Received: from 10.1.1.41 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:26:46 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by AMRMAILHUB with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1PQKF0S7>; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:21:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'hannah.easter@philips.com'" Subject: Directions to London Regionals Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:22:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More detail will be going out to team contacts later this evening (or more likely first thing tomorrow morning, sorry for the usual last minute re-arrangements) but for now, here's how to get to Dulwich College. First off I'm afraid there's no way I can do this unless you've got a bog-standard map of London. Find the South Circular Road A205, which is well signed all along its route. Dulwich Village is close to its southernmost point. This might come in useful. Venue is marked the PE Centre. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=533250&Y=172750 Isn't the Internet wonderful? >From the West you'll be going through Clapham Common, Streatham, Tulse Hill and past West Dulwich Station (RHS). ***Through the chicane-like bends, and past the main school building & playing fields on the RHS to the next set of traffic lights. Left is signed to Dulwich Village, right isn't signed at all, but that's where you want to go. It's a private-looking road called College Road. 150m on the left is an even more private-looking road called Pond Cottages. At the end of that (mind the 6 inch humps!) is the car park and the PE Centre. >From the East you'll have gone through Catford and Forest Hill and then turned left at the junction where the main road appears to go straight on to become the A2216 (probably signed East Dulwich and/or Camberwell). So now you're on Dulwich Common (road name for that stretch of the A205), with playing fields on the LHS. The first(?) set of lights are about 1km (with a pond on the LHS). To the right is signed Dulwich Village, left isn't signed at all, but that's where you want to go. It's a private-looking road called College Road. 150m on the left is an even more private-looking road called Pond Cottages. At the end of that (mind the 6 inch humps!) is the car park and the PE Centre. >From the North/South a good way onto the A205 is the A23 (between Brighton and Brixton) which intersects at a major junction near Streatham. Go east from there towards Tulse Hill (and follow as above) Local travel tip if you know the area - avoid Herne Hill's nightmare roadworks. If the car park is full there is extra parking but you have to go back to the last traffic lights, turn left (westward) on the A205 and take next left through the main school gates to the car park. From there you can walk back through the school and come out opposite Pond Cottages (don't worry we'll have local sherpa guides on hand to point you in the right direction on Saturday). By public transport: No direct Tube I'm afraid but trains every 20 mins from Victoria to West Dulwich, which also stop at Brixton on the Victoria line. For 9am arrival (you know you want to) 8.38 Vic, 8.45 Brix, 8.49 W Dulwich. >From there turn right outside the station, and pick up from the *** above. Shouldn't be more than 10 minutes walk from there, and anyway you're top athletes, so make that 5 minutes. Buses: plenty on the South Circular but quite honestly why would you want to get a bus? Any questions please ask. See you Saturday. Cheers Wayne Angels -----Original Message----- From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com] Sent: 23 February 2000 13:10 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: DIRECTIONS TO REGIONALS THIS WEEKEND Does any one have directions of where the London regionals is being held this weekend? and what teams are going... cheers Hannah From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 23 21:50:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA13338 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:48:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13332 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:48:50 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23618 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:48:45 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst379.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.55]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15887 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:48:15 GMT Message-ID: <38B4559E.F8918C96@york.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:48:14 +0000 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: Tour Dates References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E53A@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone send me more details as to how the "Tour" works. As I have only recently started the Ultimate thing, I know nothing about them. Is it something I could participate in, or just go along and watch some great Ultimate being played? Jaimie Cross Yorkie Bar Kids "HUGHES, Chris" wrote: > > All, > > You may have noticed that the Tour Dates are now on the BUF Diary. These are > not as originally planned, for which I duly apologise, however, we were > hampered by lack of bids, and unavailability of venues. These are the > finalised venues, and the Tour invites will be going out to teams very soon. > > Tour 1 - April 29/30 (Bank Holiday w/e - sorry) Swindon; Layout Dreams > Tour 2 - May 20/21 - Towcester; Nancy Stebbing > Tour 3 - June 24/25 - Southampton; Skunks > Tour 4 - July 15/16 - Birmingham Layout Dreams & Slipdisc > > You will note that there is no split venue, against the decision at the AGM. > Again due to lack of dates / venues / TD's and the perceived planning > problems of a North / South split, after discussions both the U8C, and the > BUF committee agreed to remove the split tour, and retable the possibility > with considerations to the tour at next years agm, if it was felt to be > still viable. > > Please don't contact individual TD's, or attempt to send deposits to Dora, > until you have received instruction packs. > > Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 01:09:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA29287 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:06:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29282 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:06:21 GMT Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03093 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:06:16 GMT Received: from host213-1-0-124.host.btclick.com ([213.1.0.124]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000224010933.YYVX6201.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-1-0-124.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:09:33 +0000 Received: by host213-1-0-124.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF7E63.914BF6C0@host213-1-0-124.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:07:49 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF7E63.914BF6C0@host213-1-0-124.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: BritDisc , "'jbc102'" Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:06:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id BAA29283 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The BUF tour (as developed by Si Hill) was introduced in an attempt to satisfy the desire for the top teams to compete at a high level without excluding the other thirty or so teams that play regular Ultimate in this country. It works differently from all other 'open' tournaments, where the top seed in each pool spend the majority of Saturday playing pointless games, in which other than possibly one, they know that they will comfortably beat the opposition, and vice versa for the bottom seeds. In the Tour teams start in 'peer' pools, where teams compete against opposition of similar quality, split into groups of eight - two pools of four in each group, 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, etc. This presents some meaningful competition on Saturday for all teams. The theory being that by playing against opposition of similar quality, this will allow teams to improve through close competition, and also enjoy themselves more by removing the pointless games. Sunday allows the teams to either challenge the group above them, or defend against upcoming teams. The top four teams of each group then challenge the bottom four teams of the group above them, which allows improving teams to climb the rankings. Who decides which group your team is placed in? That is decided by your finishing position from the event before, so you can progress over a period of time. Last year, UTI won the Tour (and the Ben Rainbow trophy), by beating Catch 22 into second place in the last game of the last event of the series. They went on to win Nationals as well, but despite their apparent dominance, they were beaten into third place at the first event by being beaten in the semi's by Chevron Action Flash, who then lost to Catch 22 in the final of Tour 1. The Tour tests a teams' ability to compete at a high level and win over a period of time. But it also caters for the teams at the other end, who can enjoy themselves, by pitching them against like minded teams, who enjoy the less competitive side of ultimate. 42 teams entered the tour last year, including some school teams, so there is no reason why you can't join a team or enter one yourself. If you are on the BUF mailing list details will arrive on your doorstep soon. Chris Hughes Director of Competitions ---------- From: jbc102[SMTP:jbc102@york.ac.uk] Sent: 23 February 2000 21:48 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: Tour Dates Can anyone send me more details as to how the "Tour" works. As I have only recently started the Ultimate thing, I know nothing about them. Is it something I could participate in, or just go along and watch some great Ultimate being played? Jaimie Cross Yorkie Bar Kids "HUGHES, Chris" wrote: > > All, > > You may have noticed that the Tour Dates are now on the BUF Diary. These are > not as originally planned, for which I duly apologise, however, we were > hampered by lack of bids, and unavailability of venues. These are the > finalised venues, and the Tour invites will be going out to teams very soon. > > Tour 1 - April 29/30 (Bank Holiday w/e - sorry) Swindon; Layout Dreams > Tour 2 - May 20/21 - Towcester; Nancy Stebbing > Tour 3 - June 24/25 - Southampton; Skunks > Tour 4 - July 15/16 - Birmingham Layout Dreams & Slipdisc > > You will note that there is no split venue, against the decision at the AGM. > Again due to lack of dates / venues / TD's and the perceived planning > problems of a North / South split, after discussions both the U8C, and the > BUF committee agreed to remove the split tour, and retable the possibility > with considerations to the tour at next years agm, if it was felt to be > still viable. > > Please don't contact individual TD's, or attempt to send deposits to Dora, > until you have received instruction packs. > > Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 01:44:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA03995 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:43:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03989 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:43:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f82.hotmail.com [209.185.131.145]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA28143 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:43:18 GMT Received: (qmail 72856 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2000 01:42:46 -0000 Message-ID: <20000224014246.72855.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.206 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:42:46 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.206] Reply-To: sibarry@hotmail.com From: "Angels Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Angels Practice Thursday 24 Feb Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:42:46 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a closed session, ie team-only, so if you are not playing for us this weekend then please do not come. Next Thursday is open as usual Si B/Angels H 020 7 733 8155 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 03:42:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id DAA15334 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:40:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA15322 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:40:52 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f221.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.221]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA10056 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:40:51 GMT Received: (qmail 54384 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2000 03:40:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000224034016.54383.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.204 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:40:16 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.204] From: "Simon Barry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE Regional Tournament Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:40:16 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk After many unexpected ups and downs the teams coming to London are, in no particular order... Strange Blue 1 Strange Blue 2 Bliss Lurkers Look At Me Mohawks Playthings Disc Doctors (Imperial) Under Cover Lovers (UCL) Rhapsody Angels Harmony Angels Melody Angels Si Barry SE TD ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 24 08:22:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA11582 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:20:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11575 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:20:42 GMT Received: from web1402.mail.yahoo.com (web1402.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.166]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA12594 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:20:42 GMT Received: (qmail 23636 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Feb 2000 08:21:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20000224082111.23635.qmail@web1402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.109.134.218] by web1402.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:21:11 PST Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:21:11 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: Goaltimate 12/13th Feb To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well well well........Goaltimate??? Wayne asked me to give him a few thoughts on my recent experience of "The sport of the new Millenium - Goaltimate". Instead of him just forwarding this to BD i thought i would copy you all myself. Apologies to all who really don't give a f*** about anything except Ultimate and their status quo, this is written for informative purposes only and is not intended to spur off WWIII on BD. Goaltimate a new disc sport where the players are paid their travel expenses, provided with a tournament uniform, are given the incentive of prize money, are not permitted to swear (Yellow Card Offence) and have to be available for TV promotional purposes. Sounds different doesn't it? It is except for the fact the 200 or so professionals there are virtually all Ultimate specialists chipping in to try break this new disc sport to a wider market, for a fee obvioulsy. The atmosphere was very much one of a top class American Ulti Tourney, not surprising when 23 of the 24 teams represented have all played at UPA Nationals in recent years. The only exception being us (Australia), there to bring a truly international feel to the TV audience (American's really are that stupid). There was one specialist Goaltimate team from San Diego, where the game was invented and not surprisingly were the tournament winners. However, the Condors (UPA runner up in 1999 to DOG) pushed them close in a very tight final. Condors were clearly the crowd's favourite and on atleast one occaision a decision by one of the three officials may have been influenced in their favour. Most of the officials though very experienced Ulti players are new to Goaltimate too, so the official thing really was kinda strange. There would be a foul call the players would discuss it the official would butt in with their authority then the players would continue to discuss the play with the ref. It's going to take a long time to convince Ulti players that refs are possible, even if not desirable in any disc sport, or maybe that is the issue the refs simply can't have a disc sport/honour system background. I'm not saying i agree with refs out and out but i believe there is a place for them in certain areas of Ultimate and at certain levels. (That became apparent in Hawaii last w/e in our semi against a very physical team who would intentionally foul.) Any back to the Goaltimate, we did OK, many other teams had not played previously but some had been training for months for this event, obviously looking at the prize money. You play continuously in games to 5 with rolling subs which worked well and the game was free flowing, in that there were few stoppages outside of fouls unlike Ulti with the long walk back after the point has been scored. A series consists the best of 5 games and there is a time limit of two hours which can be reached. We won one game against Sub Zero from Minneapolis and one against Bigack from San Fran, but failed to score against the Hammers from Houston, even without Damien, his flight got messed up or something. Similar to many US tourneys once the pool games have been played that's it, you loose you go home or to the beach, as many teams did in the glorious Florida sunshine. I would have thought they would have wanted us to play as much as possible as they had flown us their and would want us to play hard competitive games against teams of our own standard, but nevermind it allowed us to party hard in West Palm Beach. Some teams did show up for the finals on the Sunday and that's when we got the majority of our exposure to TV interviews. We really were a pulling point for the TV audience, a team all the way from Australia, it was if we were from a different planet and it was a major thing. The field is circular, 60 yards in diameter with a 18 foot high semi circular goal and a clear line where the disc must be passed clear behind after every score, or after a turnover. The stall is 5. The scoring zone is an elipse 24 feet deep behind the goal. There's also a two point line from in front of the clear line. Most of the action takes place in front of the goal and can get very physical. In fact the whole game pretty much resembles half court basketball. Personally i did not enjoy the game as much as Ultimate but there were plenty there who commented they did. I'm not sure it will catch on but for now whilst the man with the money paying they'll go on playing. For more info look at www.goaltimate.com Seeyouse, Colin. P.S. How many, if any Brits have been to the Kaimana Klassic Tourney in Hawaii before? For anyone thinking about going the w/e of Presidents Day (US Holiday Monday) 2001 (3rd w/e in Feb??) is where it's at. This tourney is pretty awesome, you sleep on the beach and get woken at first light, have a dip in the sea before breakfast and bake in 30 degree heat all w/e. This tourney will be making it on to the World calender no doubt with may folk looking at doing that and Rimini in the same year. There could be some hot West Coast US teams on the sand this Easter......you have been warned. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 25 11:29:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA08296 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:26:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08287 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:26:45 GMT Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.115]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01584 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:26:40 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA05508; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA00098; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA26582; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:25:59 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1VZLJFT3>; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:25:59 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0210059C@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: GB Practice Schedule Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:25:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, There have been some slight modifications to the GB practice schedule as we seek to accommodate as many people and as much Ultimate as possible. The schedule for the next couple of months now reads: Saturday 11th March 2000 GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The May 2000 session will generally be 2 day events with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by each division manager. The April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour1 was moved forward two weeks. We apologise in advance if this inconveniences anyone but we believe it will suit most players. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 25 12:42:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA04127 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:40:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04113 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:40:22 GMT Received: from exch-student.livjm.ac.uk (exch-student.livjm.ac.uk [150.204.254.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11127 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:40:15 GMT Received: by exch-student.livjm.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:39:43 -0000 Message-ID: <61DE2ADF138DD3118E2700062B00055A522FC8@exch-student.livjm.ac.uk> From: Chewins John To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Plymouth and Point Blank Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:39:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please can the organisers (Kerry-Anne?) of the Plymouth qualifiers, please e mail me as i need to talk to someone concerning Point Blanks entry. Thanks Chewy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 27 22:34:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA29042 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:31:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29037 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:31:19 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15905 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:31:19 GMT Received: from [212.140.78.205] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12PCDc-0002fE-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:31:16 +0000 Message-ID: <001901bf8172$98d64fa0$cd4e8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Towcester regional results Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:30:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk First- thanks to all the teams who came to play. The spirit was very good from all sides, making my job almost easy. The results: 16 Superfly Pickups 15 Hulltimate 14 Mild Mannered Janitors 13 Jedi Children 12 Bears 2 11 Slipdisc 10 Whiplash 9 Red- PLATE WINNERS 8 Zebedees 7 Hammerage 6 Shrub 5 Bears 1 4 Baboom 3 Chevron 2 Mexican Horse Bandits 1 Druid OAPs Man of the match- Jeff Jackson Spirit- Chevron Good luck to all of the Nationals qualifiers! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 27 22:45:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA01311 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:44:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01306 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:44:20 GMT Received: from dervish.mail.pipex.net (dervish.mail.pipex.net [158.43.192.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA18673 for ; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:44:17 GMT Received: (qmail 18774 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2000 22:44:13 -0000 Received: from userae85.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.131.227) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2000 22:44:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000001bf8174$91b968e0$e383bc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: Subject: What is the Tour? Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:31:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF8169.FD5C5860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF8169.FD5C5860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jaimie asked "what is the tour?". Chris H has replied with quick summary. But (probably wanting to keep = the email short) focused on the "rules" and the bit about teams of level = ability playing each other most often. There actually were several major motivating factors behind the tour = from my point of view - the one mentioned above is one of the main ones = (an advantage for all levels of team, not just the top ones, in my = opinion). I'd like to mention two others here and add some comments as I think its = important that we think about them. 1. The tourney schedules were set up so that top teams would frequently = get to play games to 21 over 2 hrs. Games of this length had not been = common in UK tourneys for some time (if ever? Toby? Sammy?) before we = used the tour to make it happen. This aim has definitely been = successfully met - at least top players are used to playing long games. = Whether this helped anyone to do better at Worlds or not its rather = difficult to say. From Catch's point of view it definitely made a = difference in Vancouver (97). However - at the last Worlds (99), games were shorter - first to 15 (I = can't remember the time cap - but it was about 90 mins). I know I've = mentioned this before, but the BUF (or whatever we are called these = days) should seek clarification from WFDF about its intentions re game = lengths. I would say that the GB teams need to know NOW. Furthermore, = we need to know in order to plan our domestic tourneys. If ultimate is = a game played to 15, then thats what it should be, and we should adjust = (as quickly as possible) to this within the major UK tourneys. =20 I'm in favour of this shortening of games - but it should be in the = rules of ultimate.=20 Any WFDF committee people still reading? Charlie? Thomas? Toby? I = don't really know if you guys are still on that thing - but if you are - = whats the score? We all need to know the rules of ultimate - how long = are games? If we found out in time we might be able to do something about this for = 2000. *Conclusion. We need to think about the game lengths at the Tour.* 2. The aim of the tour was to bring stability to the ultimate calendar = and improve the quality of tourney-venues - at least for the top = tournaments. We hoped to be able to stage large events - 32 teams - and = still guarantee hot showers, sensible food, continuous updating of = results in central area, improved publicity, easier access for = non-ultimate types, better medical, physio, first-aid provision, and = many other things... On this front, we have largely failed. We do stage large tourneys (my = hat comes off to the hard working organisers) but we haven't really = improved the standard of venue along the grounds listed above. We can't = even bring much better stability to the calendar. Worse still, the tour = has definitely had a negative impact on other tournaments because they = have struggled to get a full entry - several have been cancelled over = the last couple of years. I am sure (I hope) that all the people who work really hard to get the = tour and other tournaments running understand that I am NOT in any way = critisising them. But I do think we need to look again at what we are = doing. I believe strongly in the tour (I would do) - but I do think we = should take stock this season and look at how we can improve things for = 2001. I don't want to start on details now, but I would love to see and = hear people start to talk about how to solve some of these things. I = already have strong ideas about what we need to do - but I bet there are = lots of others. *Conclusion. We need to understand if the exact, current format of the = tour is healthy overall. NB - I want to keep the tour - I just think it = needs an overhaul.* One final point (and the main reason for my mail): The majority of ultimate players want "good things" to happen to = ultimate: some more players, higher standards, more opportunities for = casual players, better organisation, some TV?, ... Many people also put in lots of work to forward this cause on several = fronts. =20 I strongly believe that the best means of moving our sport forwards is = to ensure that we get the competition structure right. =20 After all, the reason we all play, is to play (I also like arguing, but = would suggest that this is in fact part of the game and is part of = "playing" :) End of monologue. Sorry it was so long. Si (I have a team - but I don't know its name.) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF8169.FD5C5860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jaimie asked "what is the = tour?".
Chris H has replied with quick = summary.  But=20 (probably wanting to keep the email short) focused on the "rules" and = the bit=20 about teams of level ability playing each other most often.
 
There actually were several major = motivating=20 factors behind the tour from my point of view - the one mentioned above = is one=20 of the main ones (an advantage for all levels of team, not just the top = ones, in=20 my opinion).
 
I'd like to mention two others here and = add some=20 comments as I think its important that we think about them.
 
1. The tourney schedules were set up so = that top=20 teams would frequently get to play games to 21 over 2 hrs.  Games = of this=20 length had not been common in UK tourneys for some time (if=20 ever? Toby?  Sammy?) before we used the tour to make it=20 happen.  This aim has definitely been successfully met - at least = top=20 players are used to playing long games.  Whether this helped anyone = to do=20 better at Worlds or not its rather difficult to say.  From Catch's = point of=20 view it definitely made a difference in Vancouver (97).
 
However - at the last Worlds (99), = games were=20 shorter - first to 15 (I can't remember the time cap - but it was about = 90=20 mins).  I know I've mentioned this before, but the BUF (or whatever = we are=20 called these days) should seek clarification from WFDF about its = intentions re=20 game lengths.  I would say that the GB teams need to know = NOW. =20 Furthermore, we need to know in order to plan our domestic = tourneys. =20 If ultimate is a game played to 15, then thats what it should be, and we = should=20 adjust (as quickly as possible) to this within the major UK = tourneys. =20
 
I'm in favour of this shortening of = games - but it=20 should be in the rules of ultimate. 
 
Any WFDF committee people still = reading? =20 Charlie? Thomas? Toby?  I don't really know if you guys are still = on that=20 thing - but if you are - whats the score?  We all need to know the = rules of=20 ultimate - how long are games?
 
If we found out in time we might be = able to do=20 something about this for 2000.
 
*Conclusion.  We need to think = about the game=20 lengths at the Tour.*
 
 
2. The aim of the tour was to bring = stability to=20 the ultimate calendar and improve the quality of tourney-venues - at = least for=20 the top tournaments.  We hoped to be able to stage large events - = 32 teams=20 - and still guarantee hot showers, sensible food, continuous updating of = results=20 in central area, improved publicity, easier access for non-ultimate = types,=20 better medical, physio, first-aid provision, and many other=20 things...
 
On this front, we have largely = failed.  We do=20 stage large tourneys (my hat comes off to the hard working organisers) = but we=20 haven't really improved the standard of venue along the grounds listed=20 above.  We can't even bring much better stability to the = calendar. =20 Worse still, the tour has definitely had a negative impact on other = tournaments=20 because they have struggled to get a full entry - several have been = cancelled=20 over the last couple of years.
 
I am sure (I hope) that all the people = who work=20 really hard to get the tour and other tournaments running understand = that I am=20 NOT in any way critisising them.  But I do think we need to look = again at=20 what we are doing.  I believe strongly in the tour (I would do) - = but I do=20 think we should take stock this season and look at how we can improve = things for=20 2001.  I don't want to start on details now, but I would love to = see and=20 hear people start to talk about how to solve some of these things.  = I=20 already have strong ideas about what we need to do - but I bet there are = lots of=20 others.
 
*Conclusion.  We need to = understand if the=20 exact, current format of the tour is healthy overall.  NB - I want = to keep=20 the tour - I just think it needs an overhaul.*
 
One final point (and the main reason = for my=20 mail):
 
The majority of ultimate players want = "good things"=20 to happen to ultimate: some more players, higher standards, more = opportunities=20 for casual players, better organisation, some TV?, ...
Many people also put in lots of work to = forward=20 this cause on several fronts. 
 
I strongly believe that the best means = of moving=20 our sport forwards is to ensure that we get the competition structure=20 right. 
 
After all, the reason we all play, is = to play (I=20 also like arguing, but would suggest that this is in fact part of the = game and=20 is part of "playing" :)
 
End of monologue.  Sorry it was so = long.
 
Si
 
(I have a team - but I don't know its=20 name.)
 
 
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF8169.FD5C5860-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 00:14:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA14145 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:12:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14133 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:12:25 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f121.hotmail.com [209.185.131.184]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA21317 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:12:10 GMT Received: (qmail 90231 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2000 00:11:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228001135.90229.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.204 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 16:11:35 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.204] Reply-To: sibarry@hotmail.com From: "Angels Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: cjhughes@talk21.com Subject: SE Regionals - Results Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 00:11:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all the teams that came and made it a great-spirited and hard-fought weekend. Special thanks to Deirdre from Angels who bought, transported and cooked all the food and ran the cafe all weekend. The results: 12. Strange Blue 2 11. Melody Angels 10. Harmony Angels 9. Under Cover Lovers (Plate Winners) 8. Disc Doctors 7. Playthings 6. Lurkers 5. Look At Me 4 Bliss 3. Mohawks 2. Rhapsody Angels 1. Strange Blue 1 Spirit - Melody Angels Si B ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 02:18:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id CAA09973 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 02:16:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09964 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 02:15:57 GMT Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAB29210 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 02:15:54 GMT Received: (qmail 20191 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2000 02:15:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20000228021550.20190.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.228.129.11] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:15:50 PST Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:15:50 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: Re: What is the Tour? To: Si and/or Jack , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si, you wrote, I'm in favour of this shortening of games - but it should be in the rules of ultimate. Any WFDF committee people still reading? Charlie? Thomas? Toby? I don't really know if you guys are still on that thing - but if you are - whats the score? We all need to know the rules of ultimate - how long are games? If we found out in time we might be able to do something about this for 2000. I attended the WFDF Forum in St. Andrews, none of the above attended but the majority of the Ultimate Committee and a couple of UPA reps were there too. The topic of game lengths were discussed. Pretty much everyone agreed the duration was OK (100 mins). Some also seemed to think that the points (15) should have been 17 or 19. In any case the result was that shorter games are here to stay. I asked if the Ultimate Committee or the RULES people would consider specifying these in the next rules edition and encouraging standard time lengths of games throughout the world. Response - Ultimate Committee will discuss it.........Also, why are finals played to more points and longer??......Differences do not happen in other sports........ The Ultimate committee of WFDF are the people you need to approach regarding changes in rules, game lengths etc. (BUF, Laura, Ben, Country Rep should have contact details for these people). Trust this is of some help, Colin. P.S. Do you know about the next pull rule amendment wef 1/4/00........ No, you won't be able to drop it....again Suggest you speak to someone in the know ASAP if no one is aware. --- Si and/or Jack wrote: > Jaimie asked "what is the tour?". > Chris H has replied with quick summary. But > (probably wanting to keep the email short) focused > on the "rules" and the bit about teams of level > ability playing each other most often. > > There actually were several major motivating factors > behind the tour from my point of view - the one > mentioned above is one of the main ones (an > advantage for all levels of team, not just the top > ones, in my opinion). > > I'd like to mention two others here and add some > comments as I think its important that we think > about them. > > 1. The tourney schedules were set up so that top > teams would frequently get to play games to 21 over > 2 hrs. Games of this length had not been common in > UK tourneys for some time (if ever? Toby? Sammy?) > before we used the tour to make it happen. This aim > has definitely been successfully met - at least top > players are used to playing long games. Whether > this helped anyone to do better at Worlds or not its > rather difficult to say. From Catch's point of view > it definitely made a difference in Vancouver (97). > > However - at the last Worlds (99), games were > shorter - first to 15 (I can't remember the time cap > - but it was about 90 mins). I know I've mentioned > this before, but the BUF (or whatever we are called > these days) should seek clarification from WFDF > about its intentions re game lengths. I would say > that the GB teams need to know NOW. Furthermore, we > need to know in order to plan our domestic tourneys. > If ultimate is a game played to 15, then thats what > it should be, and we should adjust (as quickly as > possible) to this within the major UK tourneys. > > I'm in favour of this shortening of games - but it > should be in the rules of ultimate. > > Any WFDF committee people still reading? Charlie? > Thomas? Toby? I don't really know if you guys are > still on that thing - but if you are - whats the > score? We all need to know the rules of ultimate - > how long are games? > > If we found out in time we might be able to do > something about this for 2000. > > *Conclusion. We need to think about the game > lengths at the Tour.* > > > 2. The aim of the tour was to bring stability to the > ultimate calendar and improve the quality of > tourney-venues - at least for the top tournaments. > We hoped to be able to stage large events - 32 teams > - and still guarantee hot showers, sensible food, > continuous updating of results in central area, > improved publicity, easier access for non-ultimate > types, better medical, physio, first-aid provision, > and many other things... > > On this front, we have largely failed. We do stage > large tourneys (my hat comes off to the hard working > organisers) but we haven't really improved the > standard of venue along the grounds listed above. > We can't even bring much better stability to the > calendar. Worse still, the tour has definitely had > a negative impact on other tournaments because they > have struggled to get a full entry - several have > been cancelled over the last couple of years. > > I am sure (I hope) that all the people who work > really hard to get the tour and other tournaments > running understand that I am NOT in any way > critisising them. But I do think we need to look > again at what we are doing. I believe strongly in > the tour (I would do) - but I do think we should > take stock this season and look at how we can > improve things for 2001. I don't want to start on > details now, but I would love to see and hear people > start to talk about how to solve some of these > things. I already have strong ideas about what we > need to do - but I bet there are lots of others. > > *Conclusion. We need to understand if the exact, > current format of the tour is healthy overall. NB - > I want to keep the tour - I just think it needs an > overhaul.* > > One final point (and the main reason for my mail): > > The majority of ultimate players want "good things" > to happen to ultimate: some more players, higher > standards, more opportunities for casual players, > better organisation, some TV?, ... > Many people also put in lots of work to forward this > cause on several fronts. > > I strongly believe that the best means of moving our > sport forwards is to ensure that we get the > competition structure right. > > After all, the reason we all play, is to play (I > also like arguing, but would suggest that this is in > fact part of the game and is part of "playing" :) > > End of monologue. Sorry it was so long. > > Si > > (I have a team - but I don't know its name.) > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 07:53:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA11011 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:47:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11006 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:47:03 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05566 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA11413 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 07:47:02 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200002280747.HAA11413@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 4th March 2000 SOUTHERN Indoor Regionals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Kerry Maybury Email k.maybury@plymouth.ac.uk Phone 01752 256966 (home) 07788 420913 (mobile) Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Paul Unwin Email punwin@grantham.ac.uk BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://axiom-emg.net/pookas Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 11:30:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA12845 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:28:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12814 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:28:14 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27778 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:28:12 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:29:33 -0000 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F5E3F@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Scottish & Northern Regionals Results Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:29:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all the teams for making the weekend an easy to run, well played, spirited event, and for partying extremely hard in The Three Sisters. Thanks also to Stu for the trophys, Fraser for the schedule, and Simon for the party venue. Final results were - 1. Mud Culture 1 2. WYWL Allstars 3. Ro-Sham-Bo 1 4. The Three Frogs 5. Top Shelf Sleaze 6. Shooting Stars 7. Sneeeky's 1 8. Flatball Project 1 9. BOB 10. Northern Lights 11. Well Hung (Mud Culture 2) 12. Sneeeky's 2 13. Mud Slingers (Mud Culture 4) 14. Calimocho 15. Flatball Project 2 16. Ro-Sham-Bo 2 17. Ro-Sham-Bo 3 18. Disciples 19. Mud Wrestlers (Mud Culture 3) Spirit Of The Game - Northern Lights Cheers, Scuttler. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 13:00:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA14520 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:57:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14506 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:57:53 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA10496 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:57:52 GMT Received: from cs1423.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.137.17] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 12PPjY-00062a-00; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:57:09 +0000 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:57:44 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk (Natalie visser) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: looking for Sean Young X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: hdue1@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry for using the whole list. I am trying to contact Sean Young. He made a survey on Ultimate some years ago, if you have his contact details or the results of his survey, could you please get back to me. Thanks very much. Natalie Visser From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 28 23:50:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA07474 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:48:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07456 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:48:35 GMT Received: from mta4-svc.virgin.net (mta4-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.54.145]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23027 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:48:35 GMT Received: from default ([194.168.69.158]) by mta4-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000228234835.NCVE6809.mta4-svc.virgin.net@default> for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:48:35 +0000 Message-ID: <38BB0B23.2C3B@virgin.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:56:20 +0000 From: Mark Ellis Reply-To: jersey.boy@virgin.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-VN712-003 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pickup for Plymouth????? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there anyone out there who is looking to pickup at the Plymouth tourney this weekend???? If you are and you still haven`t found a team, drop me a line at Jersey.Boy@Virgin.net in the next couple of days, and you could find yourselves playing for the Ex-Picnic team. See y`all in Plymouth, Mark (Ex Picnic Secretary/Treasurer/General dogsbody!!!) P.S. I`d like a full team as I am coming all the way from sunny Jersey for the weekend!!!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 02:44:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id CAA12679 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 02:42:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12674 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 02:42:49 GMT Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29367 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 02:42:41 GMT Received: from clw13.clw ([209.8.25.197]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:38:18 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000228214105.0076b410@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:41:06 -0500 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: Goaltimate 12/13th Feb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Nationals in recent years. The only exception being >us (Australia), there to bring a truly international >feel to the TV audience (American's really are that >stupid). Now, Colin, my friend, I will accept the blanket statement that Americans are stupid. It's a given, no lo contendro or some such Latin phrase. However, to argue that adding an Ozzie team to a US tourney doesn't make it at least somewhat international, that one ya can't really fight for. I mean, if we were arguing that the UPA Finals were the World Championships because we added a team from Canada, sure, we'd be stupid. Or it if was international b/c you played for a team from the California, sure, we'd be stupid. Even if we claimed the Goaltimate tourney was the world championships because you/the Ozzies were there, we'd still be stupid. (maybe that's what you were trying to say; if so it wasn't clear) (or maybe I'm just stupid!) But, at least in my book, Oz = Not North America = international However, as the whole discussion is about Goaltimate, who the f(*&)(&uck cares anyway? toodle from the land of the brave people defended by 7,000 long-range nuclear weapons! Stephen Fun & Games formerly Gun permanently Happy ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 06:13:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id GAA00666 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:12:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00660 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:12:01 GMT From: markthesecond@force9.net Received: from cask.force9.net (cask.force9.net [195.166.128.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA04197 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:12:00 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:12:00 GMT Message-Id: <200002290612.GAA04197@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: (qmail 4037 invoked from network); 29 Feb 2000 01:43:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bryntech) (212.159.71.248) by cask.force9.net with SMTP; 29 Feb 2000 01:43:33 -0000 To: andythefirst@hotmail.com Subject: You Were Right !!! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Andy, You're right!! You CAN get free flights to New York.. I'm going to New York in April for 5 nights , and the flight cost me NOTHING!!! Saved me £150 return...and I got a free mobile phone. You can find the file you need at http://news.callnetuk.com/dnewsweb.exe?cmd=article&group=free.news&item=12&utag=markthesecond+ http://news.callnetuk.com/dnewsweb.exe?cmd=article&group=alt.travel&item=5544&utag=markthesecond+ I've put more details for everyone in our newsgroups. news:free.news news:free.uk.holidays news:alt.travel.uk.air See ya there!!! Mark the second... ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 10:44:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA15622 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:41:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15608 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:41:47 GMT Received: from relay03.esat.net (relay03.esat.net [192.111.39.46]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23284 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:41:46 GMT Received: from mailserver.sepro.ie (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay03.esat.net with smtp id 12Pk63-0002J6-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:41:43 +0000 Received: from sepro_peter [192.168.1.145] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:40:34 +0000 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" , "EuroDisc" Cc: , Subject: Dublin 2000 Tournament, April 8th-9th Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:41:03 -0000 Message-ID: <000101bf82a1$7a1b7ab0$9101a8c0@sepro_peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Details about the Dublin 2000 tournament can be found at http://www.axiom-emg.net/pookas/. Click on the 'Tournament' tab for all the details, including a list of hostels, and maps of the downtown area. Please be sure to reserve your accommodation NOW, as Dublin can get very busy on weekends. Floor space will be very difficult to come by, this year. Come help us celebrate the 5th year of fabulous disc, great weather (it was actually quite warm last year) and other nonsense (UWE, are you ready for the Tequila snorting re-match?) Simon Cocking - Tournament Director mailto:simoncocking@hotmail.com Pookas, Dublin Ultimate Ireland From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 11:44:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA21140 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:59:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21118 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:59:24 GMT Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07228 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:59:22 GMT Received: by fw.Interleaf.com via suspension id <119057>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:00:10 -0500 Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with SMTP id <119051>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:58:48 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id FAA13441; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 05:57:06 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03799; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:57:56 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:00:17 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57D2A@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE Regionals - missing trousers MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 06:00:09 -0500 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone end up taking a pair of trousers home that they don't recognise? Mine disapeared from my pile of stuff just outside the entrance to the hall, sometime between lunch and shower time on saturday afternoon. They were khaki/fawn combats, with a fairly heavy belt. -- Neil Travers work: home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 12:15:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA16081 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:13:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16067 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:13:39 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA19188 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:13:38 GMT Received: from cs24018.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.72.30] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 12PlWI-00059P-00; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:12:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:13:30 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk (Natalie visser) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: looking for Mia Gregory X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: hdue1@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Excuse for use of the whole list. I am looking for Mia Gregory. Women's coordinator in 1994??? I think. Anybody knowing contact details, could you please get back to me. Also, there is a book on Ultimate health, injuries and preparation for tournaments, written by Paul Marfleet and Jackie Grant: 'Hold it for ten: and no bouncing', if you have a copy or know where to get one, let me know. Thanks. Natalie Visser From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 15:09:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA24626 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:59:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24460 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:58:58 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17758 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:58:56 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09234 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:58:55 GMT Message-Id: <200002291458.OAA09234@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 29 Feb 00 14:58:54 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.44); 29 Feb 00 14:58:40 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:58:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: The Tour Format X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think much of the Tours problems revolve about the current seeding structure. 1) At the moment, if you miss a tour, particularly the first then your scuppered if you want to have a crack at the top teams. I know its supposed to be 'a tour', but there are loads of players (including most students) who cannot afford to go to all tours. 2) To compensate for the fact that many players can't go to all tours, we need huge teams of 20+ players. Why do we do this? The next world clubs is 2 years away. Is it not better to spread the talent amonst more competitive teams, and increase the amount of pitch time, fitness and skill of British ultimate players? Surely it doesn't take more than a season to prepare to play 20 a side. Needing so many players encourages super teams, discouraging the building of geo and student teams. 3) Competitive summer tournaments serve as an important bridging gap for players who have the basic skills. Where does a student team go if they win or do well in student nationals, if they can't compete in the Tour and see how far they can go. An alternative seeding structure might be to have a Swiss tournament structure (play teams who have won as many games as you) to find the top 8 on Saturday, or maybe have a few shorter games Saturday morning. Both would flatten the seeding structure and avoid too much time being spent on the stronger teams gubbing the weaker teams. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 15:56:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA19388 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:54:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19321 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:54:16 GMT Received: from mailhost ([195.226.55.115]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA27265 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:54:14 GMT Received: from pc124.videosystem.co.uk (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:52:01 +0000 Received: by pc124.videosystem.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BF82CC.5F9C95E0@pc124.videosystem.co.uk>; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:48:07 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF82CC.5F9C95E0@pc124.videosystem.co.uk> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Re: The Tour Format Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:48:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id PAA19332 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've got to disagree with Tim on this one. >2) To compensate for the fact that many players can't go to all >tours, we need huge teams of 20+ players. Why do we do this? The >next world clubs is 2 years away. Is it not better to spread the >talent amonst more competitive teams, and increase the amount of >pitch time, fitness and skill of British ultimate players? Surely it >doesn't take more than a season to prepare to play 20 a side. >Needing so many players encourages super teams, discouraging the >building of geo and student teams. Qualification for the next World clubs is based on performance at Nationals this year. You can't expect a team to get together just before Nationals and then finish in the top two. Playing in a squad of 18 is very different from playing in a squad of 9 in terms of attitude, fitness, etc. Killing yourself for a couple of points is so different to pacing yourself for 90 minutes without a sub. I think the tour has done well at encouraging geographical teams. Look at the top 8 now compared to 3 years ago? How many 'telephone' teams now exist in the top 12? You might just count Night Fever and Druids as being telephone teams, but even they have monthly training sessions (or was I mis-informed?) The seeding for tours has always tried to take into account teams that cannot make all tour tournaments. Weighted averages, expected results from missed tournaments, drop worst / missing result and still qualify for Nationals, it's all there. Look at how competitive it is now at the top of British Ultimate. Compare that to when Hombres / Shotgun dominated. UTI know that if they play badly, they could well lose in the semis. >Where does a student team go >if they win or do well in student nationals, if they can't compete in >the Tour and see how far they can go. Why can't they play in the tour? Many student teams play just a couple of tour tournaments, and get seeded according to where they are expected to finish, and not on previous / non-existent results. >An alternative seeding structure might be to have a Swiss tournament >structure (play teams who have won as many games as you) Talk to Chris Hughes about this one. Personally, I wouldn't go near that mine-field. It's up there with that American tournament that had 90+ teams and you just found a team you wanted to play against, find a free pitch, and off you go. Hand all results in, study them for a while, then join everyone else having a beer and forget about who won. Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | His vocabulary is as bad as, whatever |--- | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | email me, and I'll tell you how. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 16:53:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA13177 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:52:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13168 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:52:02 GMT Received: from smtp.screaming.net (smtp.screaming.net [212.49.224.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17982 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:52:00 GMT Received: from simon ([212.188.133.42]) by smtp.screaming.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA18847; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:52:22 GMT Message-ID: <004401bf82d5$53a30220$f58fbcd4@simon> From: "Si" To: "Timothy Rogers" Cc: References: <200002291458.OAA09234@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Tour Format Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:51:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Tim, Just a few comments :-) regarding your email to britdisc To just say that the seeding problems cause most of the tours problems is slightly short-sighted !!! It does cause problems for certain teams, but also has helped to develop the top flight of ultimate in this country quite considerably. making there be more than two teams capable of winning events (gun and druids) as was happening before. Also this format has helped too give the teams of all standards closer matches throughout their whole weekend of ultimate and therefore making for increased skills needed at all levels to win the tight games. As in the past the better teams were beating the newer teams 15-2 15-1 etc and as you must be aware playing games like this can be very tedious for the better teams and very frustrating for the new teams. As for worlds being three years away I can tell you now that it does take longer than twelve months to get a squad working together As world clubs this year proved. Uti , Chevy , Catch , Bliss, and Twin Peaks, ranked higher this year than the other British teams that were formed just for worlds. This must tell you something about keeping squads together???? Also the top teams last year in this country mainly consisted of geo players Uti(London), Chevy(Manchester), Catch 21st :-):-)(Leeds and London), Red (Leicester),Soup(Scotland) , Dough boys(London), etc etc I can see your point that needing twenty players for a squad dilutes the other teams but the other side of the coin is that the top teams with big squads will always be looking to increase their squads with new players(as older ones retire), which in turn gives the lower team players an incentive to improve their skills so they can be noticed!! and then when a player moves teams he gains new experiences to improve his game!! and also leaves a gap in his last team for another player to fill by improving their skills and fitness . The problem will happen that student teams can't get squads together during the 4 months rest :-) every summer /during exam time and that's always going to be the case, as it was when I started playing for Fingers 6 But somehow we still took a squad of at least seven to virtually every outdoor and indoor tournament throughout the year as have done Catch22 sneekeys etc etc over the years, it depends on your commitment to playing and also how much funds you can get out of your uni or sponsorship from local pubs etc to help with the cost of tourneys (they have gone up a lot over the last few years though I'll grant you that). As for if a student team does well at student nationals etc??? shouldn't you all be using TOUR ONE this year as a warm up for the student nationals !!! Wouldn't that be a logical step??? And as for your Swiss tournament structure I don't understand the difference to the current system we use???? (as we already play against teams who have won as many games as ourselves!!!! on the Sunday after pool games on the Saturday) As for "having a crack at the top teams" why don't the student teams etc think about a one off friendly against the top teams or teams of their own standard throughout the year. And also most of the top teams goto non tour events. Si.b Chevy ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers To: Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 2:58 PM Subject: The Tour Format > I think much of the Tours problems revolve about the current seeding > structure. > > 1) At the moment, if you miss a tour, particularly the first then > your scuppered if you want to have a crack at the top teams. I know > its supposed to be 'a tour', but there are loads of players > (including most students) who cannot afford to go to all tours. > > 2) To compensate for the fact that many players can't go to all > tours, we need huge teams of 20+ players. Why do we do this? The > next world clubs is 2 years away. Is it not better to spread the > talent amonst more competitive teams, and increase the amount of > pitch time, fitness and skill of British ultimate players? Surely it > doesn't take more than a season to prepare to play 20 a side. > Needing so many players encourages super teams, discouraging the > building of geo and student teams. > > 3) Competitive summer tournaments serve as an important bridging gap > for players who have the basic skills. Where does a student team go > if they win or do well in student nationals, if they can't compete in > the Tour and see how far they can go. > > An alternative seeding structure might be to have a Swiss tournament > structure (play teams who have won as many games as you) to find the > top 8 on Saturday, or maybe have a few shorter games Saturday > morning. Both would flatten the seeding structure and avoid too much > time being spent on the stronger teams gubbing the weaker teams. > > Tim > Ro-Sham-Bo > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 16:58:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA15463 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:57:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15436 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:57:13 GMT Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13038 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:57:12 GMT Received: from modem-90.erbium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.53.218] helo=simon) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12PpxO-0007ZG-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:57:10 +0000 Message-ID: <006001bf82d6$144d84a0$f58fbcd4@simon> From: "si" To: Subject: Fw: The Tour Format Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 16:56:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Hi Tim, > Just a few comments :-) regarding your email to britdisc > > To just say that the seeding problems cause most of the tours problems is > slightly short-sighted !!! > It does cause problems for certain teams, but also has helped to develop the > top flight of ultimate in this country quite considerably. making there be > more than two teams capable of winning events (gun and druids) as was > happening before. > Also this format has helped too give the teams of all standards closer > matches throughout their whole weekend of ultimate and therefore making for > increased skills needed at all levels to win the tight games. > As in the past the better teams were beating the newer teams 15-2 15-1 etc > and as you must be aware playing games like this can be very tedious for the > better teams and very frustrating for the new teams. > > As for worlds being three years away I can tell you now that it does take > longer than twelve months to get a squad working together As world clubs > this year proved. Uti , Chevy , Catch , Bliss, and Twin Peaks, ranked > higher this year than the other British teams that were formed just for > worlds. This must tell you something about keeping squads together???? > Also the top teams last year in this country mainly consisted of geo players > Uti(London), Chevy(Manchester), Catch 21st :-):-)(Leeds and London), Red > (Leicester),Soup(Scotland) , Dough boys(London), etc etc > I can see your point that needing twenty players for a squad dilutes the > other teams but the other side of the coin is that the top teams with big > squads will always be looking to increase their squads with new players(as > older ones retire), which in turn gives the lower team players an incentive > to improve their skills so they can be noticed!! and then when a player > moves teams he gains new experiences to improve his game!! and also leaves a > gap in his last team for another player to fill by improving their skills > and fitness . > > The problem will happen that student teams can't get squads together during > the 4 months rest :-) every summer /during exam time and that's always going > to be the case, as it was when I started playing for Fingers 6 > But somehow we still took a squad of at least seven to virtually every > outdoor and indoor tournament throughout the year as have done Catch22 > sneekeys etc etc over the years, it depends on your commitment to playing > and also how much funds you can get out of your uni or sponsorship from > local pubs etc to help with the cost of tourneys (they have gone up a lot > over the last few years though I'll grant you that). > > As for if a student team does well at student nationals etc??? shouldn't you > all be using TOUR ONE this year as a warm up for the student nationals !!! > Wouldn't that be a logical step??? > > And as for your Swiss tournament structure I don't understand the difference > to the current system we use???? (as we already play against teams who have > won as many games as ourselves!!!! on the Sunday after pool games on the > Saturday) > > As for "having a crack at the top teams" why don't the student teams etc > think about a one off friendly against the top teams or teams of their own > standard throughout the year. And also most of the top teams goto non tour > events. > > Si.b > Chevy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Timothy Rogers > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 2:58 PM > Subject: The Tour Format > > > > I think much of the Tours problems revolve about the current seeding > > structure. > > > > 1) At the moment, if you miss a tour, particularly the first then > > your scuppered if you want to have a crack at the top teams. I know > > its supposed to be 'a tour', but there are loads of players > > (including most students) who cannot afford to go to all tours. > > > > > 2) To compensate for the fact that many players can't go to all > > tours, we need huge teams of 20+ players. Why do we do this? The > > next world clubs is 2 years away. Is it not better to spread the > > talent amonst more competitive teams, and increase the amount of > > pitch time, fitness and skill of British ultimate players? Surely it > > doesn't take more than a season to prepare to play 20 a side. > > Needing so many players encourages super teams, discouraging the > > building of geo and student teams. > > > > 3) Competitive summer tournaments serve as an important bridging gap > > for players who have the basic skills. Where does a student team go > > if they win or do well in student nationals, if they can't compete in > > the Tour and see how far they can go. > > > > > An alternative seeding structure might be to have a Swiss tournament > > structure (play teams who have won as many games as you) to find the > > top 8 on Saturday, or maybe have a few shorter games Saturday > > morning. Both would flatten the seeding structure and avoid too much > > time being spent on the stronger teams gubbing the weaker teams. > > > > Tim > > Ro-Sham-Bo > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 20:56:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA14397 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:54:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14371 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:54:40 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10174 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:54:39 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri1-021.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.151]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA11166 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:04:59 GMT Message-ID: <009501bf82f7$d4affea0$97a492c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: <200002291458.OAA09234@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: The Tour Format Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:57:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It would take a 10000% tax increase on beer and frisbees to discourage student ultimate at the moment. Without wanting to discourage students from playing in the Tour, I think it must be said that it isn't *really* aimed at them. How many students play in the top teams? How many students are available during the summer? Not many. As the Tour becomes more 'professional' this trend will continue. Soon having played for three years will simply not be sufficient experience to make it onto a Tour team. This need not be a bad thing for students - they just need to have more competitions designed with them in mind. The problem with the Tour at present is that it has dominated all other flavours of competition - this has been bad for students, women, juniors and fun-seekers alike. I think everyone recognises this and I think steps will be (*are* being) taken to sort this out. So what we need is a more varied choice of events.... And that means we need more players...... I'll shut up now. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers To: Sent: 29 February 2000 14:58 Subject: The Tour Format > I think much of the Tours problems revolve about the current seeding > structure. > > 1) At the moment, if you miss a tour, particularly the first then > your scuppered if you want to have a crack at the top teams. I know > its supposed to be 'a tour', but there are loads of players > (including most students) who cannot afford to go to all tours. > > 2) To compensate for the fact that many players can't go to all > tours, we need huge teams of 20+ players. Why do we do this? The > next world clubs is 2 years away. Is it not better to spread the > talent amonst more competitive teams, and increase the amount of > pitch time, fitness and skill of British ultimate players? Surely it > doesn't take more than a season to prepare to play 20 a side. > Needing so many players encourages super teams, discouraging the > building of geo and student teams. > > 3) Competitive summer tournaments serve as an important bridging gap > for players who have the basic skills. Where does a student team go > if they win or do well in student nationals, if they can't compete in > the Tour and see how far they can go. > > An alternative seeding structure might be to have a Swiss tournament > structure (play teams who have won as many games as you) to find the > top 8 on Saturday, or maybe have a few shorter games Saturday > morning. Both would flatten the seeding structure and avoid too much > time being spent on the stronger teams gubbing the weaker teams. > > Tim > Ro-Sham-Bo > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 23:17:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA13934 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:13:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA13916 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:12:59 GMT Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19110 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:12:58 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12Pvp1-000BdF-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 21:31:26 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: The Tour Format References: <200002291458.OAA09234@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200002291458.OAA09234@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Tour IS elitest. It IS designed to be that way - to develop and enhance the fitness, skills and teamwork of the top FEW (say 5) teams in the country. [and, assuming that those 5 teams provide the GB Open squad, improve their performances at EU/WUGC, too, getting us more spaces at EU/WUCC]* Yes, the other 3 in the "top 8" are there "to make up the numbers"! So, what's really happening here? A "Tour Event" is actually a whole load of small leagues, at one venue, in one weekend, with promotion/relegation between each one... Well, it would be, if there weren't so many team fluctuations! Hence Tour 1 is more a "Traditional/Open" tournament - everybody has a shot at the title if they win all their games, and then over the rest of the Tour we try to work into the "Peer Pool" structure gradually - kind of difficult in only 4 (or even 5) events! Especially difficult when finding a decent venue for more than 20 teams is rare, and every team below say, 12th is effectively "new" and "of unknown strength" each year as players move around. So, either we abandon the Tour format, or we revise it. Everybody seems to think that the Tour is a good thing, just not quite functioning properly, so abandoning it seems bad. The arguments about how to revise the Tour all involve some kind of split - students/non-students, topX/bottomY, etc. and all fall apart when we try not to be too focussed on one particular group... In theory, the tour should get so big that it's actually a full-blown league / regional / national system and there's Ultimate happening somewhere every day... How that development occurs though - is still open to debate! At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the results may be predictable, but...) Wayne Retter *My apologies for not including Women, Mixed, Masters or Juniors here, but until there's enough regular club teams in any of these divisions to hold frequent tournaments/leagues, there's no focus on their development. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 29 23:38:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA19524 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:37:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19514 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:37:28 GMT Received: from relay2.nai.com (relay2.nai.com [161.69.3.67]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19732 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:37:26 GMT Received: from webshield2.na.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by relay2.nai.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA25025 for ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM ca-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY webshield2.na.nai.com ; Tue Feb 29 15:42:30 2000 -0800 Received: by na-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:35:56 -0800 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F01B39534@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk '" Subject: RE: The Tour Format Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:35:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To chime in even though we were there "to make up the numbers" 2 years ago - the development of fitness, ability and "game-face" on First Touch was HUGE playing in the Top 8 - sure, we went down to UTI and Catch (though I remember a couple of really good games against Catch) - but the Red, First Touch, Headrush 3 at the bottom of the 8 really were massively competitive, and that competition gave good training grounds - maybe we weren't the best, but the training was awesome, it gave us real games, and I know that happens further down the order too. It may be that you are playing the same teams again, but the few times that you get to play teams 2 or 3 above you are very valuable - and you find yourself training for those games. *plink plink* *fizz* -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Retter To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sent: 2/29/00 1:31 PM Subject: Re: The Tour Format The Tour IS elitest. It IS designed to be that way - to develop and enhance the fitness, skills and teamwork of the top FEW (say 5) teams in the country. [and, assuming that those 5 teams provide the GB Open squad, improve their performances at EU/WUGC, too, getting us more spaces at EU/WUCC]* Yes, the other 3 in the "top 8" are there "to make up the numbers"! So, what's really happening here? A "Tour Event" is actually a whole load of small leagues, at one venue, in one weekend, with promotion/relegation between each one... Well, it would be, if there weren't so many team fluctuations! Hence Tour 1 is more a "Traditional/Open" tournament - everybody has a shot at the title if they win all their games, and then over the rest of the Tour we try to work into the "Peer Pool" structure gradually - kind of difficult in only 4 (or even 5) events! Especially difficult when finding a decent venue for more than 20 teams is rare, and every team below say, 12th is effectively "new" and "of unknown strength" each year as players move around. So, either we abandon the Tour format, or we revise it. Everybody seems to think that the Tour is a good thing, just not quite functioning properly, so abandoning it seems bad. The arguments about how to revise the Tour all involve some kind of split - students/non-students, topX/bottomY, etc. and all fall apart when we try not to be too focussed on one particular group... In theory, the tour should get so big that it's actually a full-blown league / regional / national system and there's Ultimate happening somewhere every day... How that development occurs though - is still open to debate! At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the results may be predictable, but...) Wayne Retter *My apologies for not including Women, Mixed, Masters or Juniors here, but until there's enough regular club teams in any of these divisions to hold frequent tournaments/leagues, there's no focus on their development. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 00:25:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA01136 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:23:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01030 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:23:00 GMT Received: from web3705.mail.yahoo.com (web3705.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA22047 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:22:59 GMT Message-ID: <20000301002228.1626.qmail@web3705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.234.4.1] by web3705.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 00:22:28 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 00:22:28 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: Holiday Play To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Anyone, I am a recent convert to the amazing fun that is found within the greatest of Sports - Ultimate. Unfortunately, and I guess fortunately, my term finishes in a couple of weeks at which point I will be stuck for practice. In light of the Student Outdoors being the weekend after I return to uni, I am thinking that I may need some sort of practice during the Easter lay-off. I live in Twickenham, South-West London, and was wondering what other students have done in the past to keep up their (minimal) skills during this time. If there are any students who have been in this boat before me, or any non-student (grown ups) reading this who wouldn't mind a fairly decent beginner tagging along at some of their practices between 17th March and 1st May, please could you drop me a line and make some suggestions. Even if there are a few other beginners out there who want to meet up a couple of times to have a mini practice that would be great. I hope to hear something soon, Joe Graves AKA: Zésinho, Northern Lights (The one with the hat at the Scotland and Northerns Indoor Champs) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 10:28:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA06306 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:25:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06277 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:24:55 GMT Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA22706 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:49:38 GMT Received: (qmail 9894 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2000 09:56:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000301095619.9893.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.42.250.68] by web122.yahoomail.com; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:56:19 PST Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:56:19 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: tour format To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think the problem with this whole tour thing is that a lot of teams view it as their 'summer league', while for others it is the top competitive event of the sport. Coming from Canada, where the Montreal summer league had at least 40 teams, and Wash DC, where we had even more (80+?), it is understandable why students/new players want to go to the tour. There is not really any other venue for playing in the summer, because yes there are a lot of teams in england, but not enough in each geo area to set up a league. So in the tour, 'student' or not the top 8 teams use it as a chance to play in the summer, to gain more experience and on the other side, the top teams battle it out to qualify for worlds. So what could be some other solutions to creating more playing time for these 'amateur' teams that wouldn't disrupt the elitism of the tour? One tourney format which I have yet to see here is the hat tourney. These are great for several reasons: -they only take one day, so for many the travel or time issue is solved. -anyone can show up and play regardless of if they have a team or not -because players are mixed with people they have not played with/against before, new ideas and skills are passed on -they are about as easy to organize as any outdoor regionals or GB practice, cause everyone goes home after... this would also be a way to involve womens, juniors, or proper co-ed teams (2 women on the pitch at all times!) I'm sure others have ideas on this as well, along side the discussion of the tour, if this issue of not enough summer events is settled, it might resolve the issue of you elite teams playing us students! Enough, i just want to play! Sarah fingers 6, manchester ex- tighty whities, washington, dc ex- xena warrior princess, montreal __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 11:09:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA11938 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:39:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11869 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:38:59 GMT Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08781 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:38:42 GMT Received: from 10.1.1.41 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 01 Mar 2000 04:44:58 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by AMRMAILHUB with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1PQKHPZM>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:39:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Wayne Retter'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: londonleague@onelist.com Subject: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 04:40:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne Retter wrote: At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the results may be predictable, but...) Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top 8, Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through the summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but nothing has been settled on yet. Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million can raise 8 teams :-) Cheers Wayne Angels From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 13:36:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA11629 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:50:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11604 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:50:44 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f77.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA02904 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:12:10 GMT Received: (qmail 19733 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 2000 11:11:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000301111133.19732.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 148.88.17.28 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 03:11:33 PST X-Originating-IP: [148.88.17.28] From: "Gareth Goo" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: The Tour Format Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 03:11:33 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As a final year student I would agree with the message below. Provided the top teams are getting the competitive games they need the Tour does give the lower teams something to aim for. And teams do end up training just for those games in which they play the higher up teams and get a chance to show themselves. Also, even if the top 5 play a lower team surely the experience of playing different styles, whether good or not, is something that all teams need regardless of standard. Having a Nationwide league system would be outstanding. Currently "us" students are trying to badger the BUSA system into accepting ultimate as a standard sport and introducing a national Student league. Maybe this is the way to start the ball rolling. If students can create a BUSA league of ultimate with any luck a national league would be a natural follow-on. Just some thoughts from us non-tax-payers. Gareth The Fish & TFC >From: "Oakley, Caedman" >To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk '" >Subject: RE: The Tour Format >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:35:39 -0800 > >To chime in even though we were there "to make up the numbers" 2 years ago >- >the development of fitness, ability and "game-face" on First Touch was HUGE >playing in the Top 8 - sure, we went down to UTI and Catch (though I >remember a couple of really good games against Catch) - but the Red, First >Touch, Headrush 3 at the bottom of the 8 really were massively competitive, >and that competition gave good training grounds - maybe we weren't the >best, >but the training was awesome, it gave us real games, and I know that >happens >further down the order too. > >It may be that you are playing the same teams again, but the few times that >you get to play teams 2 or 3 above you are very valuable - and you find >yourself training for those games. > >*plink plink* *fizz* >-----Original Message----- >From: Wayne Retter >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Sent: 2/29/00 1:31 PM >Subject: Re: The Tour Format > >The Tour IS elitest. > >It IS designed to be that way - to develop and enhance the fitness, >skills and teamwork of the top FEW (say 5) teams in the country. > >[and, assuming that those 5 teams provide the GB Open squad, improve >their performances at EU/WUGC, too, getting us more spaces at EU/WUCC]* > >Yes, the other 3 in the "top 8" are there "to make up the numbers"! > > >So, what's really happening here? > >A "Tour Event" is actually a whole load of small leagues, at one venue, >in one weekend, with promotion/relegation between each one... > >Well, it would be, if there weren't so many team fluctuations! > >Hence Tour 1 is more a "Traditional/Open" tournament - everybody has a >shot at the title if they win all their games, and then over the rest of >the Tour we try to work into the "Peer Pool" structure gradually - kind >of difficult in only 4 (or even 5) events! > >Especially difficult when finding a decent venue for more than 20 teams >is rare, and every team below say, 12th is effectively "new" and "of >unknown strength" each year as players move around. > >So, either we abandon the Tour format, or we revise it. > >Everybody seems to think that the Tour is a good thing, just not quite >functioning properly, so abandoning it seems bad. > >The arguments about how to revise the Tour all involve some kind of >split - students/non-students, topX/bottomY, etc. and all fall apart >when we try not to be too focussed on one particular group... > >In theory, the tour should get so big that it's actually a full-blown >league / regional / national system and there's Ultimate happening >somewhere every day... > >How that development occurs though - is still open to debate! > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the >results may be predictable, but...) > >Wayne Retter > > >*My apologies for not including Women, Mixed, Masters or Juniors here, >but until there's enough regular club teams in any of these divisions to >hold frequent tournaments/leagues, there's no focus on their >development. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Wayne Retter >at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com >at work: 01737-273611 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 15:24:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA14787 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:08:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14768 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:08:09 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07465 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:08:08 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA06125 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:09:48 GMT Message-Id: <200003011209.MAA06125@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 1 Mar 00 12:09:48 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.44); 1 Mar 00 12:09:46 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:09:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Team Length X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lots of reaction to this one. I've mixed this issue with the tour hence the seperate email. I accept that you need to build a team for worlds, but what happened to coming on the pitch when you wanted to, flogging your guts out and not being able to walk Saturday night. And then doing the same again Sunday. Don't people get annoyed being pulled off the pitch when they think there having a blinder just to allow someone else a go. Or conversely, being pulled off the pitch to allow some 'fat handler' with a big ego to have a go. Who hasn't been in a team without these sort of arguments. Has there ever been a discussion about limiting size of teams worldwide? Games at the last World Clubs were much shorter and I don't think we need as many players as we used to. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 15:24:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA22369 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:20:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22070 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:20:25 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11227 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:20:24 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01790 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:56:25 GMT Message-Id: <200003011156.LAA01790@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 1 Mar 00 11:56:25 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.44); 1 Mar 00 11:56:00 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:55:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour Format X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to clarify a couple of things I said. I'm not opposed to the Tour, playing for Soup last season we had some cracking games and the general standard within the team improved. It was also a superb preparation for Worlds. The issue is really one of getting teams of the same standard to play other teams of the same and slightly better standard. Being exploited is how one improves. Even in the top 8, if you dropped down you lost the opportunity to play the top 4 and since 5 to 12 was much of a muchness, improvement over the weekend was reduced. Ok, I accept that some of this is unavoidable in order to get teams of the same quality playing each other. A much bigger problem, however, is if a team misses the first tour. It then takes half the tour to find the right level. Last year, with Headrush missing a tour, the format was sensibly altered to accomadate this. Just to explain the Swiss, which I only propose playing on the Saturday morning: 1) Each time you win a game you get a point. 2) Each time you play you play someone with the same number of points. So, by the third round in a 32 team tournament, there will only be 8 teams with 2 wins. By the end of the third round there will be 4 teams with 3 wins, and 12 with two wins. If we made the games half an hour then, each team has only played 1.5 hours. One can then form groups for the rest of the weekend from there (perhaps with a crossover of longer length). Game length can then be adjusted upto a full 2 / 1.5 hours. Top teams only spend 1/2 an hour playing a weak team. 1/2 an hour playing a top 16 side. Its not that much really, and it allows flexibility over a tournament as opposed to over a set of tournaments. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 16:38:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA09824 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:37:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08007 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:46:21 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18246 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:46:10 GMT Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12Q7l7-0000jL-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:57:41 +0000 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 1 Mar 00 11:57:40 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 1 Mar 00 11:57:26 +0000 From: "R.D.Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 11:57:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Students on tour X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: <7FB9BFE138D@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There were loads of students at the tour last year. Two teams Phat Eds and Mohawk Mwnci Magic got to the Nationals and teams like Jedi and Skunks also made several events. If a team does well at student nationals it is usually because they have a core of good committed players and there is no reason why this should not be transferable. The tour is an open event and the more you enter the more you'll find your level and have consistently close and competitive games. If you don't get a crack at the top 8 so what, there are plenty of other high quality sides for people to play. See you at Tour 1 Rob. Phat Eds From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 17:14:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA24068 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:13:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23285 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:10:04 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22528 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:10:03 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:35:16 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:39:21 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E545@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Jonathan Sinclair'" Cc: "'BritDisc'" Subject: RE: Co-ed series Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:39:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes we are hoping to establish the beginnings of a Co-ed (or mixed depending on your pickiness over names) series this year. This will probably happen in May since April is full, and progress further through the season, although with fewer events than the tour. Initially we are trying to keep it cheap and cheerful, rather than having too many rules on team entry. One aspect will be to encourage more teams and more people to play, and obviously increase the female player base. I will be moving forward on this, along with Nancy Stebbing the Co-ed coordinator (this is more her pet project) once I've sorted out the tour. Chris > ---------- > From: Jonathan Sinclair[SMTP:jonathan.sinclair@dpmann.co.uk] > Sent: 01 March 2000 14:30 > To: 'chughes@chelt.ac.uk' > Subject: Co-ed series > > Chris - I wondering whether the idea of a co-ed series had gone any > further? > If there were tournaments then doughboy would definitely field a team. > We'll > be playing the open tour as well but we're very keen to sort something out > for playing co-ed as well. > > Thanks > sky > > Jonathan Sinclair - DP Mann E-commerce Team > Phone: 0207 6804331 Fax: 0207 7670331 > www.dpmann.co.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 17:17:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA25153 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:16:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19430 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:04:10 GMT Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29556 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:27:31 GMT Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1DK1CZHA>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:34:26 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104AA2E@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'Ziants, Wayne'" , "'Wayne Retter'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: londonleague@onelist.com Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:34:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne Retter wrote: >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the >results may be predictable, but...) I think that's changing as the top teams recognise the value of playing against teams of a similar ability in a competitive setting. This very weekend Dough, UTI and maybe London Catch players are playing each other in a pre-season warm-up. Wayne Ziants wrote: >Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top 8, >Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London >League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) >evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through the >summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but nothing has >been settled on yet. >Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... >If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million can >raise 8 teams :-) One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and time. The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means alot of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. The summer leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a large proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get a good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social gathering. I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures and travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if the format were different and offered more competitive games through peer pools and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's perspective would be interesting at this point.... Cheers ears, PieBoy. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 17:51:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA10246 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:50:44 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10212 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:50:40 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27667 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:50:39 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:49:38 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:45:07 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Roger Thomson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: londonleague@onelist.com Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:44:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk UTI perspective: We'd beat you 15-1 too!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] > Sent: 01 March 2000 13:34 > To: 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: londonleague@onelist.com > Subject: RE: London League 2000 > > Wayne Retter wrote: > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small > >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on > >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the > >results may be predictable, but...) > > I think that's changing as the top teams recognise the value of playing > against teams of a similar ability in a competitive setting. This very > weekend Dough, UTI and maybe London Catch players are playing each other > in > a pre-season warm-up. > > Wayne Ziants wrote: > >Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top 8, > >Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London > >League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) > >evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through the > >summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but nothing > has > >been settled on yet. > >Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... > >If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million can > >raise 8 teams :-) > > One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and > time. The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means > alot > of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger > and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. The > summer > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a > large > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because > playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get > a > good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social > gathering. > > > I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't > necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures > and > travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if > the > format were different and offered more competitive games through peer > pools > and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's perspective would be > interesting > at this point.... > > Cheers ears, > > PieBoy. 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V1.5) id RAA08208; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:57:13 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:57:12 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0419FA25@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'David Trovell'" , "'Roger Thomson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: londonleague@onelist.com Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:57:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We'll see on Sunday..............and I'll give you 5 to 1 odds on that scoreline! .................but I suppose its just talk??? > -----Original Message----- > From: David Trovell [SMTP:david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk] > Sent: 01 March 2000 17:45 > To: 'Roger Thomson'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: londonleague@onelist.com > Subject: RE: London League 2000 > > UTI perspective: > We'd beat you 15-1 too!! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] > > Sent: 01 March 2000 13:34 > > To: 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Cc: londonleague@onelist.com > > Subject: RE: London League 2000 > > > > Wayne Retter wrote: > > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a > small > > >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on > > >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of > the > > >results may be predictable, but...) > > > > I think that's changing as the top teams recognise the value of playing > > against teams of a similar ability in a competitive setting. This very > > weekend Dough, UTI and maybe London Catch players are playing each other > > in > > a pre-season warm-up. > > > > Wayne Ziants wrote: > > >Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top > 8, > > >Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London > > >League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) > > >evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through > the > > >summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but > nothing > > has > > >been settled on yet. > > >Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... > > >If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million > can > > >raise 8 teams :-) > > > > One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and > > time. The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means > > alot > > of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the > stronger > > and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. The > > summer > > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a > > large > > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be > better > > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > > > Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because > > playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams > get > > a > > good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social > > gathering. > > > > > > I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but > can't > > necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures > > and > > travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if > > the > > format were different and offered more competitive games through peer > > pools > > and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's perspective would be > > interesting > > at this point.... > > > > Cheers ears, > > > > PieBoy. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:01:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA13709 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:00:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13702 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:00:03 GMT Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11427 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:00:02 GMT Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1DK1C5JM>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:59:51 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104AA45@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:59:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA13703 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >UTI perspective: >We'd beat you 15-1 too!! LOL :-) Money where mouth is? Say £5 on this weekend's game or the result of Tour 1? Or all mouth no trousers Trovell? Sorry I should have said an intelligent UTI perspective shouldn't I. Hmmmm. But as that's about as likely as Guy running an anger-management course will one of you boneheads tell us your opinion about playing in a London summer league? cheers, PieBoy -----Original Message----- From: David Trovell [mailto:david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk] Sent: 01 March 2000 17:45 To: 'Roger Thomson'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: londonleague@onelist.com Subject: RE: London League 2000 UTI perspective: We'd beat you 15-1 too!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [SMTP:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] > Sent: 01 March 2000 13:34 > To: 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter'; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: londonleague@onelist.com > Subject: RE: London League 2000 > > Wayne Retter wrote: > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small > >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on > >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the > >results may be predictable, but...) > > I think that's changing as the top teams recognise the value of playing > against teams of a similar ability in a competitive setting. This very > weekend Dough, UTI and maybe London Catch players are playing each other > in > a pre-season warm-up. > > Wayne Ziants wrote: > >Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top 8, > >Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London > >League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) > >evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through the > >summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but nothing > has > >been settled on yet. > >Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... > >If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million can > >raise 8 teams :-) > > One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and > time. The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means > alot > of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger > and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. The > summer > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a > large > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because > playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get > a > good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social > gathering. > > > I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't > necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures > and > travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if > the > format were different and offered more competitive games through peer > pools > and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's perspective would be > interesting > at this point.... > > Cheers ears, > > PieBoy. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:14:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA17692 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:13:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17678 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:13:03 GMT Received: from relay01.esat.net (relay01.esat.net [192.111.39.11]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00290 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:13:03 GMT Received: from mailserver.sepro.ie (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay01.esat.net with smtp id 12QDcM-0004Y6-00; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:13:02 +0000 Received: from sepro_peter [192.168.1.145] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:11:44 +0000 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:12:11 -0000 Message-ID: <001501bf83a9$aa4fa040$9101a8c0@sepro_peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104AA2E@baby.kbw.co.uk> X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > The summer > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different > proposition - a large > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. If I understand you correctly, you're saying that many teams in NA summer leagues are hat teams. That's not quite true, depending on your definition of a hat team. Generally, players play with a league team on weeknights, and if they are interested in travelling, join a road team for tournament play on weekends. The three league teams I played with in the Ottawa summer league (pushing 200 teams now) had more or less the same player base for several seasons. I might add that the majority of players in the Ottawa league didn't play on travelling teams, because they had their fill of Ultimate in league play. This travelling to tournaments thing was new to me when I moved over here a few years ago. As you mentioned at the end of your mail, the discrepancies between skilled vs. unskilled teams is dealt with by having different divisions. True, if you were in div C on one night, you'd never play a div A or B team. However, if you whooped every team in your division, you'd be promoted the next season, no bother. Also, the Ottawa League had no restriction on how many teams you could play on, provided they were in different divisions. Some players would play in stronger and weaker divisions, just to spread the talent around. It would make end of season play a little complicated if both your teams made it to the finals, but what can you do. I was surprised that London (at least) didn't have a city league, and I am glad to see that one seems to be gelling. My word of advice, if I may be so bold, is to accept that there will be some blowouts in the early years of the league, since it is difficult to evenly match teams when there are so few of them. However, it will improve in time as the league grows. Then, of course, they'll be the problem of pitch space. Peter Bennison Pookas Dublin Ultimate ex - HammerTime - OCUA B div ex - RoadKill - Travelling OCUA ex - Cool Calvin Seven - OCUA B div ex - Wolves in Cheap Clothing - OCUA C div From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:17:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA18761 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:16:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18751 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:16:14 GMT Received: from web122.yahoomail.com (web122.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.57]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA15055 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:16:13 GMT Received: (qmail 5572 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2000 18:23:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20000301182305.5571.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Received: from [193.63.97.201] by web122.yahoomail.com; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 10:23:05 PST Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 10:23:05 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: RE: London League 2000, summer leagues in general To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To respond to Roger's post.. Just fyi, the leagues in the states and canada are not allowed to be joined by pre-formed teams...what you do is enter individually, stating your fitness ability, your ability ranking, how long you've played etc., so that teams of equal playing ability are formed, allowing more experienced players to serve as captains, and beginners to learn the game in a friendly environment, supporting the spirit of the game... Competitive, or travelling teams as they are called, still have their own practises, and often the players enjoy league play as a chance to compete against someone on their own team, or to simply have a good time playing disc. Of course this only works if people are interested, but in Washington for example, the league has had enough interest to form 3 different pools of play, recreational, competitive, and corporate teams. Corporate pools are the only ones that are preformed, obviously sponsored by the company... Hopefully, England can keep teaching enough beginners to play so that in the future these kinds of leagues can take place. play on Sarah fingers 6 manchester ex-tighty whities, washington dc ex-xena warrior princess, montreal --- Roger Thomson wrote: > . The summer > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely > different proposition - a large > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that > aren't tend to be better > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or > because structurally > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies > appeal far more because > playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole > day and all teams get a > good workout, some close and some not-so-close games > and a social gathering. > > > I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that > kind of event, but can't > necessarily see us committing to play in a League > with regular fixtures and > travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That > might be different if the > format were different and offered more competitive > games through peer pools > and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's > perspective would be interesting > at this point.... > > Cheers ears, > > PieBoy. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:22:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA20410 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:20:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20401 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:20:57 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01186 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:20:57 GMT Received: from p149-harc1-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.244.149] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12QDcv-0005El-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: <002b01bf83aa$96ea9c20$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: References: <20000301111133.19732.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: The Tour Format Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:18:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A student league is the best way to develop a league system. It could be sorted into regions. It would have a source of support (BUSA and unions). Fixtures and transport would be sorted out along with the current BUSA system. And it would probably result in a greater amount of students playing the game. It may also lead to a tiered system where each uni has 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams, so competitive games should happen every week no matter what level you play at. It would surely be a foundation for a national league. It could lead to the ultimate coach playing a more important role in UK ultimate. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Gareth Goo To: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 11:11 AM Subject: RE: The Tour Format > As a final year student I would agree with the message below. Provided the > top teams are getting the competitive games they need the Tour does give the > lower teams something to aim for. And teams do end up training just for > those games in which they play the higher up teams and get a chance to show > themselves. > > Also, even if the top 5 play a lower team surely the experience of playing > different styles, whether good or not, is something that all teams need > regardless of standard. > > Having a Nationwide league system would be outstanding. Currently "us" > students are trying to badger the BUSA system into accepting ultimate as a > standard sport and introducing a national Student league. Maybe this is the > way to start the ball rolling. If students can create a BUSA league of > ultimate with any luck a national league would be a natural follow-on. > > Just some thoughts from us non-tax-payers. > > Gareth > The Fish & TFC > > >From: "Oakley, Caedman" > >To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk '" > >Subject: RE: The Tour Format > >Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:35:39 -0800 > > > >To chime in even though we were there "to make up the numbers" 2 years ago > >- > >the development of fitness, ability and "game-face" on First Touch was HUGE > >playing in the Top 8 - sure, we went down to UTI and Catch (though I > >remember a couple of really good games against Catch) - but the Red, First > >Touch, Headrush 3 at the bottom of the 8 really were massively competitive, > >and that competition gave good training grounds - maybe we weren't the > >best, > >but the training was awesome, it gave us real games, and I know that > >happens > >further down the order too. > > > >It may be that you are playing the same teams again, but the few times that > >you get to play teams 2 or 3 above you are very valuable - and you find > >yourself training for those games. > > > >*plink plink* *fizz* > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Wayne Retter > >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > >Sent: 2/29/00 1:31 PM > >Subject: Re: The Tour Format > > > >The Tour IS elitest. > > > >It IS designed to be that way - to develop and enhance the fitness, > >skills and teamwork of the top FEW (say 5) teams in the country. > > > >[and, assuming that those 5 teams provide the GB Open squad, improve > >their performances at EU/WUGC, too, getting us more spaces at EU/WUCC]* > > > >Yes, the other 3 in the "top 8" are there "to make up the numbers"! > > > > > >So, what's really happening here? > > > >A "Tour Event" is actually a whole load of small leagues, at one venue, > >in one weekend, with promotion/relegation between each one... > > > >Well, it would be, if there weren't so many team fluctuations! > > > >Hence Tour 1 is more a "Traditional/Open" tournament - everybody has a > >shot at the title if they win all their games, and then over the rest of > >the Tour we try to work into the "Peer Pool" structure gradually - kind > >of difficult in only 4 (or even 5) events! > > > >Especially difficult when finding a decent venue for more than 20 teams > >is rare, and every team below say, 12th is effectively "new" and "of > >unknown strength" each year as players move around. > > > >So, either we abandon the Tour format, or we revise it. > > > >Everybody seems to think that the Tour is a good thing, just not quite > >functioning properly, so abandoning it seems bad. > > > >The arguments about how to revise the Tour all involve some kind of > >split - students/non-students, topX/bottomY, etc. and all fall apart > >when we try not to be too focussed on one particular group... > > > >In theory, the tour should get so big that it's actually a full-blown > >league / regional / national system and there's Ultimate happening > >somewhere every day... > > > >How that development occurs though - is still open to debate! > > > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small > >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on > >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the > >results may be predictable, but...) > > > >Wayne Retter > > > > > >*My apologies for not including Women, Mixed, Masters or Juniors here, > >but until there's enough regular club teams in any of these divisions to > >hold frequent tournaments/leagues, there's no focus on their > >development. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >Wayne Retter > >at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > > mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com > >at work: 01737-273611 > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:22:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA20399 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:20:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20390 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:20:56 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01182 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:20:55 GMT Received: from p149-harc1-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.244.149] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12QDcs-0005El-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01bf83aa$94b91620$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: References: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104AA2E@baby.kbw.co.uk> Subject: Re: London League 2000 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:12:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Roger is right that a good team like Doughboy would not want to play in a league if they won every game 15-1, but there is no reason why they should not play in a London league. If the London league was played with a hat format (I believe it did so last summer,) then most games would be close and competitive (the only difference between teams should be the way they work together.) It would also give new or less experienced players the chance to develop there skills. There is no reason why a league should have to consist of current teams, it would be nice for them to practice as a team in a regular league but at this stage leagues are still going to be second to the tour, where teams like Doughboy can have there elite games. Hope that made sense, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Thomson To: 'Ziants, Wayne' ; 'Wayne Retter' ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 1:34 PM Subject: RE: London League 2000 > Wayne Retter wrote: > >At the moment, there are enough ultimate clubs in London to hold a small > >tournament - but it's rare that any of them ever manage to meet up on > >the odd "free" weekend for a planned competitive scrimmage! (Some of the > >results may be predictable, but...) > > I think that's changing as the top teams recognise the value of playing > against teams of a similar ability in a competitive setting. This very > weekend Dough, UTI and maybe London Catch players are playing each other in > a pre-season warm-up. > > Wayne Ziants wrote: > >Let us hope then that all those Ultimate clubs in London - whether Top 8, > >Womens or Students - are prepared to participate in this year's London > >League. The presently vague plan is to start as soon as (non-floodlit) > >evening games become practical, on one or two evenings a week through the > >summer. One popular idea is to make it a Co-ed competition, but nothing > has > >been settled on yet. > >Top organising bloke Paul Hurt will surely have more to add.... > >If Montreal can have 40 teams in a league, surely London's 8 million can > >raise 8 teams :-) > > One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and > time. The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means alot > of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger > and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. The summer > leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a large > proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better > matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because > playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get a > good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social gathering. > > > I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't > necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures and > travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if the > format were different and offered more competitive games through peer pools > and promotion and demotion. A UTI player's perspective would be interesting > at this point.... > > Cheers ears, > > PieBoy. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 18:53:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA29988 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:52:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29980 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:52:21 GMT Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22363 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:52:07 GMT Received: from hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with SMTP id <119043>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:52:46 -0500 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com by hq.ileaf.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0-leafusa) for with SMTP id NAA24275; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:51:02 -0500 Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05184; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:51:54 GMT Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:53:24 -0000 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEA57D3C@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: London League 2000, summer leagues in general MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:52:45 -0500 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Just fyi, the leagues in the states and canada are not > allowed to be joined by pre-formed teams...what you do > is enter individually, stating your fitness ability, That is what we did 2 years ago and before, but it is a lot of work for the organiser and the commitment level from people meant you had 16 people assigned to a team and still didn't neccesarily have 7 people turn up to play the game. And that also made balancing the teams very difficult. Also a large number of people joined partway through. So last year it was pre-formed teams, then the captain has the responsibility of forming the team and making sure people turn up. The idea was that it would not be the regular Tour teams, but teams specific for the summer league. It seemed to work pretty well last year (although I didn't get involved in the end). Yes it would be possible to create a team of UTI/Catch/Doughboy players, but you'd be bored so what's the point. Find some freinds that want to play and enter a fun team that will actually turn up. -- Neil Travers work: home: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 20:11:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA19148 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:10:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19139 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:10:48 GMT Received: from eugate01.e-mail.com (eugate01.e-mail.com [194.196.143.93]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01362 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:10:48 GMT Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id UAA89850 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:06:23 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:11:40 -0000 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBB7E252@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: London league Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:11:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A slightly more considered UTI response (before Colin chips in): I agree that it's pretty poor that we can't manage a half-assed league in a city this size. I like the Ottawa model but Sarah: are you sure about not allowing pre-formed teams? It may be the case in DC, but I'm sure I've heard of others where it's happens (Vancouver?). I think people would generally prefer to play with their friends than on a hat team, and would also feel a greater sense of responsibility to turn up. If people made an effort to create mixed-ability teams (or you could legislate - no more than x players from a top 4/8/16 tour team) I think you'd get a reasonably competitive league. Alex All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 20:39:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA25354 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:38:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25347 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:38:56 GMT Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03375 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:38:52 GMT Received: from clw13.clw ([209.8.25.197]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with SMTP id org for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:34:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.20000301153711.02c591c4@[209.8.25.194]> X-Sender: syoung@[209.8.25.194] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:37:12 -0500 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Stephen Young Subject: RE: London League 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk DC Leagues, for reference DC has at least 3 distinct forms of "in-town" leagues, plus travelling teams, plus regular pick-up. Biggest is Summer league It has 2 divisions, commonly known as "Pro" (advanced) and "Rec" (beginner). Some folks play in both leagues, travelling players (the most advanced) generally don't play in rec. To play in that league, you sign up and rank yourself by skill and athleticism. For Pro, a formal "draft" is held. Volunteer captains pick from lists of 450 players, so each of 20+ teams each end up with 20+ players hand-picked by theoretically knowledgeable players (the latter round picks end up being guesses). In Rec, the players are randomly asssigned to teams in order of their ranking, forming another 20+ teams. Its basically a formalized season-long hat format, but player rankings ensuring each team is roughly equal. (You join one team for the season.) (It is, I believe, similar to Paul Hurt's London summer league, except the captains are more formal.) Separately, in Summer, there is a "Corporate" league, where teams join, but must have some formal work/business relationship - not just a bunch of players who make a super squad. The Corporate League at least two and perhaps three divisions of self-estimated skill. In fall and spring, there are two leagues in DC, "Clique" and "Rec". Rec is the same as the summer version, although somewhat smaller. Games in both are only played on the weekend. Clique allows groups of friends to join as team. It has three divisions of about 8-10 teams each, I think. The leads to a few "super" teams, but they end up playing each other in the highest division, so not too many slaughters happen. Stephen Fun & Games formerly Gun permanently Happy ___________________________________ Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970 website: ___________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 21:53:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA11491 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:51:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11485 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:51:44 GMT Received: from chvpk-wss2.sr.chevron.com (cppat2.chevron.com [208.33.240.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA10137 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:51:38 GMT X-Server-Uuid: 26fe3e76-19dd-11d3-be09-0008c7b1f151 Message-ID: <19F52E0DF38ED211865600805F31B8F9A321BC@chevron.com> From: "Batty, Ian (IBAT)" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: League Formats Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:50:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 14A34F4D87875-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This may not have officially been a call to all ex-pats, but here goes: Calgary League Format All teams are pre-formed by captains. All teams are co-ed (4-3) 1 division of 8 "competitive" teams (played on 1 night) 3 divisions of 8 "development" teams (played on 1 night) Players are allowed to play for competitive and recreational teams. Recreational teams asked to rank themselves at the start of the season (according to experience etc) and are assigned to a division. There is two sets of relegation and promotion within the season (allowing the #1 ranked team to come last and the #24 team to come first) and yes, some teams win all their games, get promoted and lose all their games, get relegated and win all their games. But that happens in the Premier division too. Competitive teams do not have promotion or relegation. So, yes there are "super teams" in the competitive division, but if your lifes ambition is to destroy all the opposition in the Calgary Ultimate League (Tuesday) division.... then you need to get out more. The idea (at least as I understand it) is to play regularly, with people you want to play with, learn new stuff, teach people new stuff, drink beer and have fun. Most teams need ~16 players to be able to field a team every night, there are normally 1-2 teams that fold each season. And that is how we do it here. BTW There was a comment a few messages ago about not wanting to get off the pitch to allow another person to play. From the point of view of an old, slow and unfit player, I need all the subs I can get. And, yes, playing with 14/16 players IS different from playing with 8. For the better, IMHO. The game is more dynamic, faster and more intense. Who wants to watch a team of players so tired that they cannot get within 5 yards of their man? Cheers Batman ******************************************************** Ian Batty email: ibat@chevron.com If only there were a button somewhere that I could push. To force me to stop talking. (Angela-"My So-Called Life") From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 22:49:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA26290 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26282 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:31 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13907 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:25 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12QHun-000Fhr-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:43:31 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Team Length References: <200003011209.MAA06125@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200003011209.MAA06125@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Team > Length <, or Size? Freud would be most interested... Timothy Rogers writes >what happened >to coming on the pitch when you wanted to, flogging your guts out and >not being able to walk Saturday night. And then doing the same again >Sunday. I want to be able to play on Monday night, after work... When I used to do what you suggested, just _walking_ on Monday was quite often not a serious consideration... >Don't people get annoyed being pulled off the pitch when they think >there having a blinder just to allow someone else a go. Nope. That's team discipline for you. Just like when you rest someone for a game that just happens to be against their favourite opposition... > Or >conversely, being pulled off the pitch to allow some 'fat handler' >with a big ego to have a go. um, yeah, well... >Has there ever been a discussion about limiting size of teams >worldwide? Games at the last World Clubs were much shorter and >I don't think we need as many players as we used to. The larger team (OK, up to a point, where health and ability kicks in) that we take to WUCC, the more likely we all are to survive the event, and the more able we are to have a training session, or go to a tournament quite shortly after we get back... Some of the US clubs use WUCC as a selection event for squad that they want to take to US Nationals... so their view may differ to ours. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 22:49:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA26315 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26308 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:43 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13912 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:28 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12QHuq-000Fhq-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:57:00 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Hat tournaments References: <20000301095619.9893.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000301095619.9893.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sarah Eckman writes >I think the problem with this whole tour thing is that >a lot of teams view it as their 'summer league', I think it would be more accurate to say: that a lot of teams view the Tour as the only tournaments that are available to attend. I know that there are several teams that feel they cannot survive a Tour event, so don't enter, or combine with other teams. (There were several student teams in the Tour in the last couple of years, but nowhere near as many as used to attend "regular" tournaments. Then again, there are now a far greater proportion of students that play for Student teams in student events, and Open teams in the Tour...) > while >for others it is the top competitive event of the >sport. and: for others it is the chance to prove that their training sessions have been worthwhile. >One tourney format which I have yet to see here is the >hat tourney. There used to be some... but they tended to be "a long way away" (Exeter!), and/or on the same weekend as GB sessions, or the weekends that WUCC clubs decided to train, or rare as it is, REST. > These are great for several reasons: >-they only take one day, so for many the travel or >time issue is solved. This is the only one that I disagree with - UK Ultimate players really don't seem keen on only playing for ONE day... unless it's something serious. Instead, they just roll up to whatever local practice they feel is at their level, and play for a few hours. Hat tournaments seem to be regarded as a light-hearted break from the rigours of "serious" ultimate... as such, you don't find many of your "elite" players attending as they're busy relaxing in other ways... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 1 22:49:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA26277 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26270 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:28 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13910 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:28 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12QHuo-000Fho-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:48:22 +0000 Message-ID: <0t6vzhAoCYv4EwlF@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:42:16 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour Format References: <200003011156.LAA01790@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200003011156.LAA01790@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Timothy Rogers writes >Just to clarify a couple of things I said. > >I'm not opposed to the Tour, playing for Soup last season we had some >cracking games and the general standard within the team improved. It >was also a superb preparation for Worlds. The issue is really one of >getting teams of the same standard to play other teams of the same >and slightly better standard. Being exploited is how one improves. >Even in the top 8, if you dropped down you lost the opportunity to >play the top 4 and since 5 to 12 was much of a muchness, improvement >over the weekend was reduced. Ok, I accept that some of this is >unavoidable in order to get teams of the same quality playing each >other. >A much bigger problem, however, is if a team misses the first tour. As I have previously mentioned, the Tour is elitest. If you want to be a part of that "elite", you don't miss any events! >Last year, with >Headrush missing a tour, the format was sensibly altered to >accomadate this. No, No, and NO!!! No specific teams were responsible for the change in the individual formats of any events, or of the Tour as a whole. There is (always has been) a section in the rules about how "missing" or "new" teams are added/seeded... if you've never been heard of, you'll possibly get a lower seeding than you deserve. Also, if you miss an event, your previous finishing position will be taken into account when you come back... >Just to explain the Swiss, which I only propose playing on the >Saturday morning: Too long and complex to go into on Britdisc, but this wouldn't really work - especially as a pre-cursor to pool play! If you draw your first matches at random, teams get stung unless you follow the "Swiss" format all weekend, If you try seeding your teams, why bother with this stage? - you're going into pools anyway, and you may end up with someone in the wrong pool! Having said that, could be an interesting format to run as an experiment outside of the Tour (Ideal for hat tournaments, I'd imagine) Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 02:14:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id CAA12971 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:12:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12959 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:12:40 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA04032 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:12:40 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12QL6T-000Eeo-0B; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:12:38 +0000 Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 00 02:14:57 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Paul Hurt To: "Roger Thomson" , "'Ziants, Wayne'" , "'Wayne Retter' " , "BritDisc" cc: "London League" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and >time. One evening every other week or so you get on a tube train, play Ultimate against some people you may or may not already know, and then you all go down the pub. Doesn't sound so tough :-) >The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means alot >of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger >and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. Yes, if a Dough or UTI team entered, it probably would be a bit pointless. OTOH, lots of people play Ultimate because they enjoy it. I enjoy meeting new teams and players, regardless of whether we flatten them or they flatten us, or anything inbetween. The point for me isn't necessarily the result, it's how much fun I had. >The summer >leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a large >proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better >matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally >that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > >Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because >playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get a >good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social gathering. The RP one-dayers are fine and worthwhile, but don't do much to promote the formation of new teams or expand the sport - and I know that's not the point of these events. But I get the impression that there's a vast number of Londoners who'd love to play Ultimate regularly and competitively, but can't (or don't want to) leave London every other weekend to do so. Hence the league. > > >I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't >necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures and >travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if the >format were different and offered more competitive games through peer pools >and promotion and demotion. We had a league containing only six teams last year, so obviously this isn't going to happen just yet! But you have to start somewhere. All those huge North American leagues started this small. If Doughboy are still playing in ten years time, maybe then it'll be worth their while putting in a team! :-) To be honest, those individuals that want to play in the London League do, and those that don't, don't. If uniformly high-level games is what you're after, then you're not going to find them here. But for some Londoners, if it wasn't for the league, they'd never play *any* competitive games, just Thursday night pickup where no-one can remember the score, and no-one cares anyway. If any of the "elite" players want to form or join a team, then please go right ahead. It's just a bit of fun after all. Paul P.S. Wayne's right, unless anyone has any particular objections, it'll be co-ed this year. Rule will be that each 7-a-side team must have at least two players of each sex on the pitch. i.e. 5/2, 4/3, 3/4 or 2/5. Thanks for the suggestion Patch. --------------------------------- Paul Hurt paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 07:12:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA19209 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:11:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19204 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:11:23 GMT Received: from tsmail.totalserve.net ([212.114.36.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15499 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:11:23 GMT Received: from modem172.mrgarrison.dialup.totalserve.co.uk ([212.114.38.172] helo=default) by tsmail.totalserve.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12QPlZ-0007au-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 07:11:21 +0000 Message-ID: <004301bf8416$87c75dc0$ac2672d4@default> From: "Alastair Findlay" To: References: <200003011156.LAA01790@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> <0t6vzhAoCYv4EwlF@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Subject: Staff at worlds Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:11:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Has anybody got any info as to wheter they need staff for Worlds in Germany this year. ALi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 08:27:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA27551 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27545 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:14 GMT Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18471 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:13 GMT Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15067 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:13 GMT Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <1JNM1PFA>; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:12 -0000 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12703267A10@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour Format Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:26:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > >A much bigger problem, however, is if a team misses the first tour. > > As I have previously mentioned, the Tour is elitest. > If you want to be a part of that "elite", you don't miss any events! > unless tour dates are changed at the last minute, moved to a bank holiday, thus affecting all teams - maybe affecting the top teams the most? how so? the top teams are the ones who commit the most to ultimate, what with team practises, GB practises, and overseas tournaments. the top teams are the ones who plan their "real" lives around the frisbee commitments. and when dates are changed, that affects the top teams. i know that UTI and Chevron are affected badly by these date changes. this isn't a criticism of those who have made the effort to book the events, i am fully aware of the problems that there have been this year. i guess we just need to think about the way we book events, as well as they way we restructure the tour. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 09:58:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA18489 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18477 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:44 GMT Received: from doorman.bmpddb.com (mailhost.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27045 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:38 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (unverified) by doorman.bmpddb.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:56:35 +0000 Received: by POLARIS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:52:05 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'londonleague@onelist.com'" , Roger Thomson , "'Ziants, Wayne'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Londers - lets do something about this shit! Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:51:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Londoners Personally I think it is pathetic we can't get a decent league in a city of this size. I'm sure there are lots of practices scattered around London forming a pretty big player base. However, the majority of London players seem more interested in having closed shop games than forming something long term in London. Having lots of little practices not only deters new players from entering the sport but also means the majority of teams never reach their full potential. It is such a lazy, short term attitude and means we will never get to the advanced position of 'towns' like Vancouver, Sydney, Washington etc. The starting point to change all this could be to organise all summer leagues/ team practices on the same day in the same place. This way we can get everyone together and figure out the best way to combine it all. For the first year we may just get lots of seperate games with no 'league' but at least every player can find his own level and switch between games easily. It would also create a focus to attract new or foreign players and also media coverage which will eventually grow the sport. Paul Hurt has done a great job in the past but several established teams have stayed away to do their own thing (and not just the top teams). Lets all make an effort to change that this year. On my part, I will encourage all London UTI players to attend. This will not replace our closed 'squad' practices but add to them. Any suggestions of a big venue? > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hurt [SMTP:paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 02 March 2000 02:15 > To: Roger Thomson; 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter' ; BritDisc > Cc: London League > Subject: [londonleague] RE: London League 2000 > > From: Paul Hurt > > >One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and > >time. > > One evening every other week or so you get on a tube train, play Ultimate > against some people you may or may not already know, and then you all go > down the pub. Doesn't sound so tough :-) > > >The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means alot > >of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger > >and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. > > Yes, if a Dough or UTI team entered, it probably would be a bit > pointless. > > OTOH, lots of people play Ultimate because they enjoy it. I enjoy meeting > new teams and players, regardless of whether we flatten them or they > flatten us, or anything inbetween. The point for me isn't necessarily the > result, it's how much fun I had. > > > >The summer > >leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a > large > >proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better > >matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally > >that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > > > > >Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because > >playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams > get a > >good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social > gathering. > > The RP one-dayers are fine and worthwhile, but don't do much to promote > the formation of new teams or expand the sport - and I know that's not > the point of these events. But I get the impression that there's a vast > number of Londoners who'd love to play Ultimate regularly and > competitively, but can't (or don't want to) leave London every other > weekend to do so. Hence the league. > > > > > >I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't > >necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures > and > >travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if > the > >format were different and offered more competitive games through peer > pools > >and promotion and demotion. > > We had a league containing only six teams last year, so obviously this > isn't going to happen just yet! But you have to start somewhere. All > those huge North American leagues started this small. If Doughboy are > still playing in ten years time, maybe then it'll be worth their while > putting in a team! :-) > > To be honest, those individuals that want to play in the London League > do, and those that don't, don't. If uniformly high-level games is what > you're after, then you're not going to find them here. But for some > Londoners, if it wasn't for the league, they'd never play *any* > competitive games, just Thursday night pickup where no-one can remember > the score, and no-one cares anyway. > > If any of the "elite" players want to form or join a team, then please go > right ahead. It's just a bit of fun after all. > > Paul > > P.S. Wayne's right, unless anyone has any particular objections, it'll be > co-ed this year. Rule will be that each 7-a-side team must have at least > two players of each sex on the pitch. i.e. 5/2, 4/3, 3/4 or 2/5. Thanks > for the suggestion Patch. > > > --------------------------------- > Paul Hurt > > paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MAXIMIZE YOUR CARD, MINIMIZE YOUR RATE! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > http://click.egroups.com/1/2122/4/_/555660/_/951963163/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Latest info is on the London League Web Site: > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 12:05:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA02577 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:02:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02563 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:02:47 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe8.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.112]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA19398 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:02:41 GMT Received: (qmail 7580 invoked by uid 65534); 2 Mar 2000 12:02:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000302120207.7579.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [152.206.212.234] Reply-To: "Adam Keen" From: "Adam Keen" To: , "Roger Thomson" , "'Ziants, Wayne'" , References: Subject: Re: [londonleague] Londers - lets do something about this shit! Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:00:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF843E.F1216680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF843E.F1216680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, I am with David on this one. Speaking as the the daft bloke who = organized the two (or was it three?) one day Regent's Park Friendly = Fires tournament and as a member of the Strawberry Jam pickup team which = won Paul Hurt's League last year and as an (ex) member of Nationals = qualifiers First Touch, (and an ex-Uriel player who really enjoyed the = "out of the way" hats we organized in Exeter!) I really don't see that = there is that much working against a London League that can accomodate = every level. I agree that there are certainly enough players in London to make it = worthwhile. I also agree that organizing it will be a bitch, but here = are some simple ideas that could make it work. 1. Get ALL the players available in London who want to play or might be = interested in playing to send email to a designated account with their = contact details and playing level. The self assessed level ought to be = in the header so it can be filtered to relevant email folders. This will = ensure that there is a ready information resource so that things can be = organized with minimal time. 2. Since doing something is always better than doing nothing, we should = mark out ONE weekend in London where we can run a hat tournament. It = need not be a hat if we can get players to put in full teams. In fact, = is there anything that prevents a hybrid tournament: smoe hat teams and = some preorganzied teams in the same tourney? I think it only costs 50 to = book a pitch in Regent's Park so it need not be expensive to do. 3. Depending on what happens viz. 1 and 2 we will have a better idea = about how to continue. We could suggest that the hat / non-hat teams = stay together for a Paul Hurt style summer league (which really should = start as early as possible to allow students to commit time for it = before exams / travel plans get in the way). Or we could just plan = another hat / non-hat tournament. It seems that the only way to decide how to go forward is to gauge real = world responses to the idea. Actions speak louder than words and all of = that. Otherwise, we can just discuss things forever without getting = anything out of it beyond some philosophical satisfaction! I will be = happy to be part of a TEAM of people who will organize all of this but I = simply don't have the time to organize another RP day on my own again. = Anyone else want to jump in? Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers ex - Uriel ex - First Touch Currently looking for a new Tour team ... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Trovell=20 To: 'londonleague@onelist.com' ; Roger Thomson ; 'Ziants, Wayne' ; = britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk=20 Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 9:51 AM Subject: [londonleague] Londers - lets do something about this shit! From: David Trovell =20 Londoners Personally I think it is pathetic we can't get a decent league in a = city of this size. I'm sure there are lots of practices scattered around London forming a pretty big player base. However, the majority of London players seem = more interested in having closed shop games than forming something long = term in London. Having lots of little practices not only deters new players from = entering the sport but also means the majority of teams never reach their full potential. It is such a lazy, short term attitude and means we will = never get to the advanced position of 'towns' like Vancouver, Sydney, = Washington etc. The starting point to change all this could be to organise all summer leagues/ team practices on the same day in the same place. This way we = can get everyone together and figure out the best way to combine it all.=20 For the first year we may just get lots of seperate games with no = 'league' but at least every player can find his own level and switch between = games easily. It would also create a focus to attract new or foreign players = and also media coverage which will eventually grow the sport. Paul Hurt has done a great job in the past but several established = teams have stayed away to do their own thing (and not just the top teams). = Lets all make an effort to change that this year. On my part, I will encourage all London UTI players to attend. This = will not replace our closed 'squad' practices but add to them. Any suggestions of a big venue? > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Hurt [SMTP:paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 02 March 2000 02:15 > To: Roger Thomson; 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter' ; = BritDisc > Cc: London League > Subject: [londonleague] RE: London League 2000 >=20 > From: Paul Hurt >=20 > >One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of = travel and > >time. >=20 > One evening every other week or so you get on a tube train, play = Ultimate=20 > against some people you may or may not already know, and then you = all go=20 > down the pub. Doesn't sound so tough :-) >=20 > >The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means = alot > >of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the = stronger > >and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players.=20 >=20 > Yes, if a Dough or UTI team entered, it probably would be a bit=20 > pointless.=20 >=20 > OTOH, lots of people play Ultimate because they enjoy it. I enjoy = meeting=20 > new teams and players, regardless of whether we flatten them or they = > flatten us, or anything inbetween. The point for me isn't = necessarily the=20 > result, it's how much fun I had. >=20 >=20 > >The summer > >leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition = - a > large > >proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be = better > >matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because = structurally > >that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. >=20 > > > >Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more = because > >playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all = teams > get a > >good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social > gathering. >=20 > The RP one-dayers are fine and worthwhile, but don't do much to = promote=20 > the formation of new teams or expand the sport - and I know that's = not=20 > the point of these events. But I get the impression that there's a = vast=20 > number of Londoners who'd love to play Ultimate regularly and=20 > competitively, but can't (or don't want to) leave London every other = > weekend to do so. Hence the league. > > > > > >I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but = can't > >necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular = fixtures > and > >travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be = different if > the > >format were different and offered more competitive games through = peer > pools > >and promotion and demotion. >=20 > We had a league containing only six teams last year, so obviously = this=20 > isn't going to happen just yet! But you have to start somewhere. All = > those huge North American leagues started this small. If Doughboy = are=20 > still playing in ten years time, maybe then it'll be worth their = while=20 > putting in a team! :-) >=20 > To be honest, those individuals that want to play in the London = League=20 > do, and those that don't, don't. If uniformly high-level games is = what=20 > you're after, then you're not going to find them here. But for some=20 > Londoners, if it wasn't for the league, they'd never play *any*=20 > competitive games, just Thursday night pickup where no-one can = remember=20 > the score, and no-one cares anyway. >=20 > If any of the "elite" players want to form or join a team, then = please go=20 > right ahead. It's just a bit of fun after all. >=20 > Paul >=20 > P.S. Wayne's right, unless anyone has any particular objections, = it'll be=20 > co-ed this year. Rule will be that each 7-a-side team must have at = least=20 > two players of each sex on the pitch. i.e. 5/2, 4/3, 3/4 or 2/5. = Thanks=20 > for the suggestion Patch. >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------- > Paul Hurt >=20 > paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk >=20 >=20 > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MAXIMIZE YOUR CARD, MINIMIZE YOUR RATE! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as=20 > 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. > Apply NOW! > http://click.egroups.com/1/2122/4/_/555660/_/951963163/ > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Latest info is on the London League Web Site: > http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ > ------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- ------------------------------------------------------------- Latest info is on the London League Web Site: http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ -------------------------------------------------------------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF843E.F1216680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
 
I am with David on this one. Speaking = as the the=20 daft bloke who organized the two (or was it three?) one day Regent's = Park=20 Friendly Fires tournament and as a member of the Strawberry Jam pickup = team=20 which won Paul Hurt's League last year and as an (ex) member of = Nationals=20 qualifiers First Touch, (and an ex-Uriel player who really enjoyed the = "out of=20 the way" hats we organized in Exeter!) I really don't see that there is = that=20 much working against a London League that can accomodate every=20 level.
 
I agree that there are certainly enough = players in=20 London to make it worthwhile. I also agree that organizing it will be a = bitch,=20 but here are some simple ideas that could make it work.
 
1. Get ALL the players available in = London who want=20 to play or might be interested in playing to send email to a designated = account=20 with their contact details and playing level. The self assessed level = ought to=20 be in the header so it can be filtered to relevant email folders. This = will=20 ensure that there is a ready information resource so that things can be=20 organized with minimal time.
 
2. Since doing something is always = better than=20 doing nothing, we should mark out ONE weekend in London where we can run = a hat=20 tournament. It need not be a hat if we can get players to put in full = teams. In=20 fact, is there anything that prevents a hybrid tournament: smoe hat = teams and=20 some preorganzied teams in the same tourney? I think it only costs 50 to = book a=20 pitch in Regent's Park so it need not be expensive to do.
 
3. Depending on what happens viz. 1 and = 2 we will=20 have a better idea about how to continue. We could suggest that the hat = /=20 non-hat teams stay together for a Paul Hurt style summer league (which = really=20 should start as early as possible to allow students to commit time for = it before=20 exams / travel plans get in the way). Or we could just plan another hat = /=20 non-hat tournament.
 
It seems that the only way to decide = how to go=20 forward is to gauge real world responses to the idea. Actions speak = louder than=20 words and all of that. Otherwise, we can just discuss things forever = without=20 getting anything out of it beyond some philosophical satisfaction! I = will be=20 happy to be part of a TEAM of people who will organize all of this but I = simply=20 don't have the time to organize another RP day on my own again. Anyone = else want=20 to jump in?
 
 
Adam Keen
Under Cover Lovers
ex - Uriel
ex - First Touch
Currently looking for a new Tour team=20 ...
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David Trovell
To: 'londonleague@onelist.com' ; Roger Thomson ; 'Ziants, Wayne' ; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk =
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 = 9:51=20 AM
Subject: [londonleague] Londers = - lets do=20 something about this shit!

From: David Trovell <david.trovell@bmpomd.co.uk= >=20

Londoners

Personally I think it is pathetic we = can't get a=20 decent league in a city of
this size.

I'm sure there are = lots of=20 practices scattered around London forming a
pretty big player base. = However, the majority of London players seem more
interested in = having=20 closed shop games than forming something long term = in
London.

Having=20 lots of little practices not only deters new players from = entering
the=20 sport but also means the majority of teams never reach their=20 full
potential. It is such a lazy, short term attitude and means we = will=20 never
get to the advanced position of 'towns' like Vancouver, = Sydney,=20 Washington
etc.

The starting point to change all this could = be to=20 organise all summer
leagues/ team practices on the same day in the = same=20 place. This way we can
get everyone together and figure out the = best way to=20 combine it all.

For the first year we may just get lots of = seperate=20 games with no 'league'
but at least every player can find his own = level and=20 switch between games
easily. It would also create a focus to = attract new or=20 foreign players and
also media coverage which will eventually grow = the=20 sport.

Paul Hurt has done a great job in the past but several=20 established teams
have stayed away to do their own thing (and not = just the=20 top teams). Lets
all make an effort to change that this = year.

On my=20 part, I will encourage all London UTI players to attend. This will=20 not
replace our closed 'squad' practices but add to = them.

Any=20 suggestions of a big venue?

> -----Original = Message-----
>=20 From:      Paul Hurt=20 [SMTP:paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk]
> = Sent:     =20 02 March 2000 02:15
> To:      Roger = Thomson;=20 'Ziants, Wayne'; 'Wayne Retter'       ;=20 BritDisc
> Cc:      London = League
>=20 Subject:      [londonleague] RE: London = League=20 2000
>
> From: Paul Hurt=20 <paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk>
>
> >One of the = problems is=20 that a regular league involves alot of travel and
> = >time.
>=20
> One evening every other week or so you get on a tube train, = play=20 Ultimate
> against some people you may or may not already know, = and=20 then you all go
> down the pub. Doesn't sound so tough = :-)
>=20
> >The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and = this means=20 alot
> >of the league games would involve a mis-match - and = for both=20 the stronger
> >and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by = many of=20 the players.
>
> Yes, if a Dough or UTI team entered, it = probably would be a bit
> pointless.
>
> OTOH, = lots of=20 people play Ultimate because they enjoy it. I enjoy meeting
> = new teams=20 and players, regardless of whether we flatten them or they
> = flatten=20 us, or anything inbetween. The point for me isn't necessarily the =
>=20 result, it's how much fun I had.
>
>
> >The=20 summer
> >leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely = different=20 proposition - a
> large
> >proportion of them are hat = teams,=20 and those that aren't tend to be better
> >matchups because = of the=20 kind of team that enters or because structurally
> >that is = more=20 likely in a larger pool of teams.
>
> >
> = >Events=20 like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more = because
>=20 >playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all=20 teams
> get a
> >good workout, some close and some = not-so-close=20 games and a social
> gathering.
>
> The RP = one-dayers are=20 fine and worthwhile, but don't do much to promote
> the = formation of=20 new teams or expand the sport - and I know that's not
> the = point of=20 these events. But I get the impression that there's a vast
> = number of=20 Londoners who'd love to play Ultimate regularly and
> = competitively,=20 but can't (or don't want to) leave London every other
> weekend = to do=20 so. Hence the league.
> >
> >
> >I can see=20 Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but = can't
>=20 >necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular=20 fixtures
> and
> >travel if 75% of the games we would = win 15-1.=20 That might be different if
> the
> >format were = different and=20 offered more competitive games through peer
> pools
> = >and=20 promotion and demotion.
>
> We had a league containing = only six=20 teams last year, so obviously this
> isn't going to happen just = yet!=20 But you have to start somewhere. All
> those huge North = American=20 leagues started this small. If Doughboy are
> still playing in = ten=20 years time, maybe then it'll be worth their while
> putting in = a team!=20 :-)
>
> To be honest, those individuals that want to play = in the=20 London League
> do, and those that don't, don't. If uniformly=20 high-level games is what
> you're after, then you're not going = to find=20 them here. But for some
> Londoners, if it wasn't for the = league,=20 they'd never play *any*
> competitive games, just Thursday = night pickup=20 where no-one can remember
> the score, and no-one cares = anyway.
>=20
> If any of the "elite" players want to form or join a team, = then=20 please go
> right ahead. It's just a bit of fun after = all.
>=20
> Paul
>
> P.S. Wayne's right, unless anyone has = any=20 particular objections, it'll be
> co-ed this year. Rule will be = that=20 each 7-a-side team must have at least
> two players of each sex = on the=20 pitch. i.e. 5/2, 4/3, 3/4 or 2/5. Thanks
> for the suggestion=20 Patch.
>
>
> = ---------------------------------
>=20 Paul Hurt
>
> paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk
> http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.u= k
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BF843E.F1216680-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 14:14:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA24851 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:13:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24712 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:12:56 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29224 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:12:54 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:07:00 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:11:06 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E549@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'ANDY COTGREAVE'" Subject: RE: Tour Format Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:10:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I appreciate that Andy is not having a gripe at the organisers, and I also appreciate that he feels a bit upset at the situation wrt the tour. However, Whilst I did my utmost to find venues for the tour, I was struggling, which is indicative of 2 things; 1. The number of people who are prepared to organise tournaments is falling drastically. This year I had 2 offers to run tours, other than myself and Wayne, along with 2 offers of 'we might be able to do something'. The tour is elitist - yes, but do the elite teams contribute to organise an event - No. When was the last time UTI, Chevron, Catch, Doughboy (who have enough Brits) and 1st Touch organise any event. Druids and BAF, organised tournaments -albeit non-tour events, and out of the top 8 teams, for whom the tour is supposed to be designed, RED are the only team to have organised a tour / National event. Granted there are individuals who play on these teams who organise events, but these are not team efforts. What about the teams outside the top 8 - where are they? So why aren't people prepared to host events - here come the arguments; Too much effort - crap, 2 people can run a good event - a team of 15 shouldn't find it too much work. Besides, I have schedules, contact the sports physio people, can provide all the equipment. Can't find a venue - the majority of top teams are scattered over a large area nowadays, are you telling me that someone doesn't live near, drive past, be a member of a venue that could host an event. Can't be bothered - Valid point, consider this - if next year I get a similar response to organising event, then you will get the same response from me about organising the tour, then you will have to organise it all yourselves. Perhaps the BUF should me more focused on promoting the sport in those areas where people are willing to put the effort in to assist, and that is not the impression coming from the top teams. Why organise a tour (or any event for that matter)? Travel - organise an event on your doorstep, and you can be packed up and home by 6 rather than have another 300 miles to travel. Money - As DoC, I don't care how much money you make, as long as teams are given good value for their entry fee. Over the last two years I have made a net profit playing at tournaments (and that includes Worlds). Very, very, very few tournaments make a loss - those that do are usually down somebody forgetting to allow for costing of pitches or similar. Teams are crying out for events to play at. Offer them. Plan now. This then brings me to point 2; Tour Format / Organisation; all suggested alterations to the tour seem to make two assumptions; that either we are able to maintain the large size of the teams at tour events, or that we can reduce the size of the events, by splitting different leagues, or divisions - which will require more TD's - something we haven't got. It is quite apparent to me that the tour is unlikely to survive beyond this year. This is the outcome unless three things happen. Players and teams actually contribute towards providing opportunity for all to play the sport they love, and that players start becoming aware that they can't simply expect to be able to play for themselves. Lots of experienced players put a lot of effort to provide the opportunities to let you learn and develop your game - you are now the experienced players (not necessarily good, but experienced), it is time to return the favour and the effort - that means more than just griping on Britdisc about how it should be. People should realise that for the top tier events, it can no longer be a big, social gathering for all. This means teams have to accept that at some event they won't see top players, or their friends etc., as teams are there to play seriously, but also that any plans that involves teiring the system should be fair and equitable to all. That myself as DoC along with the u8c and BUF, can assist you in organisation of events, we can establish format and rules, we can monitor systems, but we cannot host events. We may endorse them, and make it a flagship tournament, but the BUF as an organisation has not held a tournament for a long time. Chris DoC (Anyone want to buy a soapbox - I'm done) > ---------- > From: ANDY COTGREAVE[SMTP:acotgreave@rm.com] > Sent: 02 March 2000 08:26 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Tour Format > > > >A much bigger problem, however, is if a team misses the first tour. > > > > As I have previously mentioned, the Tour is elitest. > > If you want to be a part of that "elite", you don't miss any events! > > > > unless tour dates are changed at the last minute, moved to a bank holiday, > thus affecting all teams - maybe affecting the top teams the most? how so? > the top teams are the ones who commit the most to ultimate, what with team > practises, GB practises, and overseas tournaments. the top teams are the > ones who plan their "real" lives around the frisbee commitments. and when > dates are changed, that affects the top teams. > > i know that UTI and Chevron are affected badly by these date changes. > > this isn't a criticism of those who have made the effort to book the > events, > i am fully aware of the problems that there have been this year. i guess > we > just need to think about the way we book events, as well as they way we > restructure the tour. > > Andy > Chevron > > > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it > or > disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information > only > for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and > therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and > not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it > and > any attachments. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 14:30:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA01725 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:29:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01679 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:29:12 GMT Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16950 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:29:12 GMT Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by mx1.ft.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00420 for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:29:07 GMT Received: FROM ima1.ft.com BY mx1.ft.com ; Thu Mar 02 12:41:22 2000 0000 Received: from Lotus Notes by ima1.ft.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 0017902C; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:33:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:31:26 +0000 Message-ID: <0017902C.N22024@ft.com> From: Paolo.Nistri@ft.com (Paolo Nistri) Subject: Dublin pickups To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: bart.edes@oecd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Memo Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All Received a message from Les Invalides asking for pickups for Dublin Tourney on April8-9. Any interested parties contact Bart.Edes@oecd.org Laters Paolo TFKA Catch 22 ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster@ft.com * ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 14:39:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA05492 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:37:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05470 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:37:52 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04695 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:37:51 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:37:28 +0000 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12859; Thu, 2 Mar 00 14:37:27 GMT Message-Id: <10003021437.AA12859@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:37:23 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tournaments In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E549@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've been thinking of getting a tournament organised in the huge (10 week) gap between Tour 4 and nationals, I'm concerned about clashing with more established events, obviously Eastbourne is likely in the 2 weeks prior to nationals but are other established events likely to go ahead, and do their potential organisers have any idea when they're likely to be(I'm thinking Bristol, Cambridge, Ross), Pete From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 15:22:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA22408 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:19:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22372 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:19:09 GMT Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [195.102.240.129]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26267 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:19:03 GMT Received: from [195.102.200.84] (helo=[195.102.200.84]) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12QXNR-0000sU-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:18:57 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:17:49 +0000 Subject: From: "Adam Harras" To: britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all on britdisc if you have flash4 please check out the new ultimate locator. If you find bugs, please tell me. If your team isn't in the right place, tell me. If you don't like it, keep it too yourself the site is at: www.ummedia.com/ultimatelocator enjoy Adam(under the influence) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 15:28:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA26103 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:27:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26086 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:27:23 GMT Received: from atmosphere.fisbat.bo.cnr.it (atmosphere.fisbat.bo.cnr.it [192.167.167.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28510 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:27:23 GMT Received: from burian.imga.bo.cnr.it (burian.imga.bo.cnr.it [192.167.171.9]) by atmosphere.fisbat.bo.cnr.it (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA16230; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:27:14 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000302162347.00799d20@atmosphere.fisbat.bo.cnr.it> X-Sender: elisa@atmosphere.fisbat.bo.cnr.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:23:47 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, wugc2000-l@uni-karlsruhe.de From: Elisa Carboni Subject: for women! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, we are the Women team from Italy (Baraonda) but this year we are not enough to go to Heilbronn (D). There are some girl with a little of italian's blood that like to play with us? Pleas answer as soon as possible, at the end of this week we decide to play women or coed. Bye bye Elisa From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 15:32:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA27550 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:30:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27536 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:30:30 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11339 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:30:29 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11067 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:30:28 GMT Message-Id: <200003021530.PAA11067@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 2 Mar 00 15:30:28 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.44); 2 Mar 00 15:30:18 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 15:30:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour Format: Explaination of Swiss X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to go on about this but the Swiss system does not ignore seeding. There was no suggestion that it did. Here's a possible format (without more short games): * During the weekend each team plays 7 games. * It is assumed that all teams are seeded. * There are no pools. As with all Swiss systems: * Every time a team wins a game they get a point. * You always play a team with the same number of points Just for simplicities sake, assume that there are 32 teams. At start of tourny: Each team in the top 16 receives a point. Round 1: 1v15 , 2v16 , 3v13, 4v14, 5v11 ... 17v31, 18v32, 19v30 ... Simple way of seeing seedings for next round is that if you win you maintain your seeding. Round 2: 2 point teams: 1v7, 2v8, 3v5, 4v6 1 point teams: 9v24, 10v23, 11v22, ... 0 point teams: 25v31, 26v32, 27v30, ... After this round there are 16 teams with 2 or more points. Split the tourny in two groups. There can be no crossover now between bottom and top 16. Round 3: 3 point teams: 1v3, 2v4 2 point teams: 5v15, 6v16 7v13, 8v14 ... 1 point teams: 17v27, 18v28, 19v25, 20v26 ... 0 point teams: 29v31, 30v32 Round 3 really allows more seeding changes, and provides games between teams of the same standard. At this stage all points are abandoned, teams just keep their seed. Now top 16 play knockout, and bottom 16 play knockout. In this system you cannot lose a top 16 position unless you lose to a bottom 16 side in the second round. in the first round the bottom 16 teams are basically fighting for the right to play a top 16 side. Top 16 teams are fighting for the right to avoid playing a bottom 16 side. The standard of play is not comprimised either: A top 4 side will if they keep their seed, play 3 games against top 4 sides, 2 games against top 8 sides and 2 games against top 16 sides. Similarly, a top 8 side will if they keep seed, play 3 games against top 16 sides, 2 games against top 4 sides and 2 games against top 8 sides. Seedings are also equally as changeable as in pool play. Any team entering the competition can win the tournament. Incidently, it still works if there are not 32 teams, you still give the top 16 a point, and teams still have to play for the right to play a top 16 team. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 18:14:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA28010 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:13:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27992 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:12:59 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00513 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:12:59 GMT Received: from p28-harc1-kirklees2.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.103] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12QZyi-0004g7-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:05:36 +0000 Message-ID: <003101bf8472$a23feda0$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "britdisc" References: Subject: Hat tournaments Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:10:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Why have hat tournaments disappeared? When I first started playing ultimate and heard about them it was the first thing I wanted to do. I didn't have to organise a team or join one, only had to transport myself there, would get to play against top class players, would get to learn loads about the sport and have lots of fun. Surely these events are relativly easy to organise? Perhaps these could be a one day event that people in the UK would want to play in. Will the Exeter hat go ahead this year? If not would people like some sort of hat tournament? I would be willing to have a go at planning one if there is a free weekend and enough interest. Sorry for asking so many questions, Matt general pick-up, looking for a team. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 22:18:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA29951 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:16:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29945 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:16:17 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17990 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:16:10 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12QdtA-000NNy-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:16:08 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:43:12 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Tournaments - Ross References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E549@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> <10003021437.AA12859@damson.open.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <10003021437.AA12859@damson.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Peter Connor writes > I'm concerned about >clashing with more established events, obviously Eastbourne is >likely in the 2 weeks prior to nationals but are other established >events likely to go ahead, and do their potential organisers have >any idea when they're likely to be(I'm thinking Bristol, Cambridge, >Ross), Ross-on-Wye (if the venue will have us back [or maybe "Ross-on-Where?" if they won't]) will be sometime between early July and late August. If you've already got a tournament booked for a given weekend, we'll try to avoid clashing (hey, we'd like to play at BOTH!!)... First come, first served... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids TD ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 2 23:57:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA21136 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:56:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21127 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:56:56 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24731 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:56:51 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12QfSc-000JRO-0X; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:56:50 +0000 Subject: RE: London League 2000 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:59:11 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" , "London League" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk *** Resending this message because of Y2K e-mail bug - you may have missed this *** *** because all my recent e-mails have carried a sent date of 1945! *** *** *** *** Apologies if you've already seen this meassage. *** *** *** *** - Paul *** Roger wrote: >One of the problems is that a regular league involves alot of travel and >time. One evening every other week or so you get on a tube train, play Ultimate against some people you may or may not already know, and then you all go down the pub. Doesn't sound so tough :-) >The teams in London are of wildly varying ability and this means alot >of the league games would involve a mis-match - and for both the stronger >and weaker teams are perceived as a waste by many of the players. Yes, if a Dough or UTI team entered, it probably would be a bit pointless. OTOH, lots of people play Ultimate because they enjoy it. I enjoy meeting new teams and players, regardless of whether we flatten them or they flatten us, or anything inbetween. The point for me isn't necessarily the result, it's how much fun I had. >The summer >leagues in Canada and the US are an entirely different proposition - a large >proportion of them are hat teams, and those that aren't tend to be better >matchups because of the kind of team that enters or because structurally >that is more likely in a larger pool of teams. > >Events like the Regent's Park one-day tournies appeal far more because >playing one or two weaker teams is part of the whole day and all teams get a >good workout, some close and some not-so-close games and a social gathering. The RP one-dayers have been great, but not especially effective at developing new teams or expanding the sport - and I know that's not the point of these events. But I get the impression that there's a vast number of Londoners who'd love to play Ultimate regularly and competitively, but can't (or don't want to) leave London every other weekend to do so. Hence the league. > > >I can see Doughboy, for example, playing in that kind of event, but can't >necessarily see us committing to play in a League with regular fixtures and >travel if 75% of the games we would win 15-1. That might be different if the >format were different and offered more competitive games through peer pools >and promotion and demotion. We had a league containing only six teams last year, so obviously this isn't going to happen just yet! But you have to start somewhere. All those huge North American leagues started this small. If Doughboy are still playing in ten years time, maybe then it'll be worth their while putting in a team! :-) To be honest, those individuals that want to play in the London League do, and those that don't, don't. If uniformly high-level games is what you're after, then you're not going to find them here. But for some Londoners, if it wasn't for the league, they'd never play *any* competitive games, just Thursday night pickup where no-one can remember the score, and no-one cares anyway. If any of the "elite" players want to form or join a team, then please go right ahead. It's just a bit of fun after all. Paul P.S. Wayne's right, unless anyone has any particular objections, it'll be co-ed this year. Rule will be that each 7-a-side team must have at least two players of each sex on the pitch. i.e. 5/2, 4/3, 3/4 or 2/5. Thanks for the suggestion Patch. --------------------------------- Paul Hurt paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 3 15:51:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA21431 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:46:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04002 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 14:02:18 GMT Received: from mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (mailhost2.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22980 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:14:10 GMT Received: from [194.112.54.115] (th-en135-115.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.54.115]) by mailhost2.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA14295; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:14:07 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.8] by daletaylor.co.uk (CommuniGate SMTP 2.9) with ESMTP id S.001706768353 for ,...; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:14:06 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:14:54 +0100 Subject: Re: Tournaments - Ross From: Nolan Taylor To: Wayne Retter , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ? 3?R 3? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 2/3/00 8:43 pm, Wayne Retter at druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk wrote: > Peter Connor writes >> I'm concerned about >> clashing with more established events, obviously Eastbourne is >> likely in the 2 weeks prior to nationals Sorry folks... NO BRITISH OPEN THIS YEAR. We are hoping to recommence the Open in 2001. Watch this space. Nolan From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 3 16:28:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA08598 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:26:35 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08231 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:26:10 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03795 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:26:08 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:20:15 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:24:22 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E554@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: Wayne Retter , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Nolan Taylor'" Subject: RE: Tournaments - Ross Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:24:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before people panic over the lack of Eastboure, (and Rotterdam for the more traveled amongst you), the BUF does have plans for an event about the Open time, effectively the British open - just not at Eastbourne - that is tied into the planned transference to BUA (or whatever is called) Chris Hughes DoC > ---------- > From: Nolan Taylor[SMTP:nolan@daletaylor.co.uk] > Sent: 03 March 2000 09:14 > To: Wayne Retter; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Tournaments - Ross > > ? 3?R 3? > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > on 2/3/00 8:43 pm, Wayne Retter at druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk wrote: > > > Peter Connor writes > >> I'm concerned about > >> clashing with more established events, obviously Eastbourne is > >> likely in the 2 weeks prior to nationals > > > Sorry folks... NO BRITISH OPEN THIS YEAR. We are hoping to recommence the > Open in 2001. Watch this space. > > Nolan > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 3 23:29:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA22742 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 23:27:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22736 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 23:27:26 GMT Received: from web1404.mail.yahoo.com (web1404.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.168]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA03493 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 23:27:25 GMT Received: (qmail 693 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2000 23:27:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000303232723.692.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.109.134.34] by web1404.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:27:23 PST Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:27:23 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: RE: Tour Format To: "HUGHES, Chris" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'ANDY COTGREAVE'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris, wrote: The tour is elitist - yes, but do the elite teams contribute to organise an event - No. When was the last time UTI, Chevron, Catch, Doughboy (who have enough Brits) and 1st Touch organise any event. I organised a tournament (one even more elitist than the tour) last August the w/e before Worlds inviting all of the UK open (all top 8) & Womens teams who were competing at Worlds to a venue in London to play against international opposition. None of teams other than my own (UTI) and Bliss took up the offer, (Who were the top placed UK teams in the Open and Womens divisions at worlds, i wonder). I provided conditions exactly the same as were played at worlds, admittedly my fields were probably better marked and flatter than those in St Andrews. So i am not suprised people are more reluctant to organise events. I made a considerable personal loss organsing the event (Approx GBP 150, so the BUF did not get their tournament tax). Since i presumed some of the UK teams would have participated i did not think their would be a problem breaking even. How wrong can one be. CW. About to catch a few waves at Bondi. --- "HUGHES, Chris" wrote: > I appreciate that Andy is not having a gripe at the > organisers, and I also > appreciate that he feels a bit upset at the > situation wrt the tour. However, > Whilst I did my utmost to find venues for the tour, > I was struggling, which > is indicative of 2 things; > > 1. The number of people who are prepared to organise > tournaments is falling > drastically. This year I had 2 offers to run tours, > other than myself and > Wayne, along with 2 offers of 'we might be able to > do something'. The tour > is elitist - yes, but do the elite teams contribute > to organise an event - > No. > When was the last time UTI, Chevron, Catch, Doughboy > (who have enough Brits) > and 1st Touch organise any event. Druids and BAF, > organised tournaments > -albeit non-tour events, and out of the top 8 teams, > for whom the tour is > supposed to be designed, RED are the only team to > have organised a tour / > National event. Granted there are individuals who > play on these teams who > organise events, but these are not team efforts. > What about the teams > outside the top 8 - where are they? So why aren't > people prepared to host > events - here come the arguments; > Too much effort - crap, 2 people can run a good > event - a team of 15 > shouldn't find it too much work. Besides, I have > schedules, contact the > sports physio people, can provide all the equipment. > Can't find a venue - the majority of top teams are > scattered over a large > area nowadays, are you telling me that someone > doesn't live near, drive > past, be a member of a venue that could host an > event. > Can't be bothered - Valid point, consider this - if > next year I get a > similar response to organising event, then you will > get the same response > from me about organising the tour, then you will > have to organise it all > yourselves. Perhaps the BUF should me more focused > on promoting the sport in > those areas where people are willing to put the > effort in to assist, and > that is not the impression coming from the top > teams. > > Why organise a tour (or any event for that matter)? > Travel - organise an event on your doorstep, and you > can be packed up and > home by 6 rather than have another 300 miles to > travel. > Money - As DoC, I don't care how much money you > make, as long as teams are > given good value for their entry fee. Over the last > two years I have made a > net profit playing at tournaments (and that includes > Worlds). Very, very, > very few tournaments make a loss - those that do are > usually down somebody > forgetting to allow for costing of pitches or > similar. Teams are crying out > for events to play at. Offer them. Plan now. > > This then brings me to point 2; > Tour Format / Organisation; all suggested > alterations to the tour seem to > make two assumptions; that either we are able to > maintain the large size of > the teams at tour events, or that we can reduce the > size of the events, by > splitting different leagues, or divisions - which > will require more TD's - > something we haven't got. > > It is quite apparent to me that the tour is unlikely > to survive beyond this > year. This is the outcome unless three things > happen. > Players and teams actually contribute towards > providing opportunity for all > to play the sport they love, and that players start > becoming aware that they > can't simply expect to be able to play for > themselves. Lots of experienced > players put a lot of effort to provide the > opportunities to let you learn > and develop your game - you are now the experienced > players (not necessarily > good, but experienced), it is time to return the > favour and the effort - > that means more than just griping on Britdisc about > how it should be. > People should realise that for the top tier events, > it can no longer be a > big, social gathering for all. This means teams have > to accept that at some > event they won't see top players, or their friends > etc., as teams are there > to play seriously, but also that any plans that > involves teiring the system > should be fair and equitable to all. > That myself as DoC along with the u8c and BUF, can > assist you in > organisation of events, we can establish format and > rules, we can monitor > systems, but we cannot host events. We may endorse > them, and make it a > flagship tournament, but the BUF as an organisation > has not held a > tournament for a long time. > > Chris > DoC > > (Anyone want to buy a soapbox - I'm done) > > > ---------- > > From: ANDY COTGREAVE[SMTP:acotgreave@rm.com] > > Sent: 02 March 2000 08:26 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: RE: Tour Format > > > > > >A much bigger problem, however, is if a team > misses the first tour. > > > > > > As I have previously mentioned, the Tour is > elitest. > > > If you want to be a part of that "elite", you > don't miss any events! > > > > > > > unless tour dates are changed at the last minute, > moved to a bank holiday, > > thus affecting all teams - maybe affecting the top > teams the most? how so? > > the top teams are the ones who commit the most to > ultimate, what with team > > practises, GB practises, and overseas tournaments. > the top teams are the > > ones who plan their "real" lives around the > frisbee commitments. and when > > dates are changed, that affects the top teams. > > > > i know that UTI and Chevron are affected badly by > these date changes. > > > > this isn't a criticism of those who have made the > effort to book the > > events, > > i am fully aware of the problems that there have > been this year. i guess > > we > > just need to think about the way we book events, > as well as they way we > > restructure the tour. > > > > Andy > > Chevron > > > > > > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. > You should not copy it > > or > > disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and > apply the information > > only > > for the intended purpose. Internet communications > are not secure and > > therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility > for the contents of this > > message. Any views or opinions presented are only > those of the author and > > not those of RM. If this email has come to you in > error please delete it > > and > > any attachments. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 5 00:24:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA02363 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02332 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:32 GMT Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA19246 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:32 GMT Received: (qmail 1583 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2000 00:20:30 -0000 Received: from userbj60.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.143.223) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2000 00:20:30 -0000 Message-ID: <00a701bf8639$07a0cda0$df8fbc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: Subject: Fw: Holiday Play Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 23:39:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I like this idea of people playing in the Twickenham/Richmond area as it would get me an extra evening of ultimate without the 45-60 minutes journey home that I do from Clapham increasingly regularly. Um - I don't want to suggest I could coach people because that will attract all sorts of ridicule (and I would rather that was aimed at Colin) - but I'd be more than happy to offer some help. I was involved in setting up a reasonably successful team once before, and I am full of opinions that I am always ready to share out loud. Joe - let me know if you get any takers! I am keen, and I have my own cones. Si - from the team with no name... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Graves" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 12:22 AM Subject: Holiday Play > Dear Anyone, > > I am a recent convert to the amazing fun that is found > within the greatest of Sports - Ultimate. > Unfortunately, and I guess fortunately, my term > finishes in a couple of weeks at which point I will be > stuck for practice. In light of the Student Outdoors > being the weekend after I return to uni, I am thinking > that I may need some sort of practice during the > Easter lay-off. I live in Twickenham, South-West > London, and was wondering what other students have > done in the past to keep up their (minimal) skills > during this time. If there are any students who have > been in this boat before me, or any non-student (grown > ups) reading this who wouldn't mind a fairly decent > beginner tagging along at some of their practices > between 17th March and 1st May, please could you drop > me a line and make some suggestions. > > Even if there are a few other beginners out there who > want to meet up a couple of times to have a mini > practice that would be great. > > I hope to hear something soon, > > Joe Graves > AKA: Zésinho, Northern Lights (The one with the hat at > the Scotland and Northerns Indoor Champs) > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 5 00:24:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA02376 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02359 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:35 GMT Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA03025 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:20:34 GMT Received: (qmail 1588 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2000 00:20:32 -0000 Received: from userbj60.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.143.223) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2000 00:20:32 -0000 Message-ID: <00a901bf8639$0933a2a0$df8fbc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: Subject: Reduce the size of the Tour events Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:15:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wanted to pick up on Chris' email. He is right you see - most of us do = bugger all to make sure that tournaments happen. If he and/or Wayne = stopped doing them all, then we'd be in trouble. Our requirement that Tour events have so many teams has ended up putting = people off running tournaments. We impose a restriction that the venue = be able to have 8 marked, full size fields. =20 I think this is the vital bit of Chris' email: > This then brings me to point 2; > Tour Format / Organisation; all suggested alterations to the tour seem = to > make two assumptions; that either we are able to maintain the large = size of > the teams at tour events, or that we can reduce the size of the = events, by > splitting different leagues, or divisions - which will require more = TD's - > something we haven't got. Right. So don't split the Tour into bits, simply *reduce the size* of = the tournaments. Effect: 1. Tour Events become easier to run (and venues easier to find). I = suggest that a few more candidate TDs will come out of the woodwork. 2. Lots of teams will need other places to play - more fun tournaments. = Likewise, these can remain at the 16-24 team size. Again I predict that = some extremely keen players will realise that they need to and can do a = few tournaments for themselves - without the risk of the Tour pulling = away all the teams. We should avoid saddling ourselves with another level of "BUF = competition" (a B-Tour has been suggested in the past). Its perfectly = simple to come up with a reaonsably sensible way of providing promotion = and relegation into and out of the Tour using other "unregulated" = tournaments. The BUF needs to encourage all levels of tournament - and provide = assistance to all levels of tournament. I think that this can be done = quite effectively whilst reducing the number of teams that play in the = Tour. I'm trying to stick to making a single point. I find that hard :) Si=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wanted to pick up on Chris' = email.  He is=20 right you see - most of us do bugger all to make sure that tournaments=20 happen.  If he and/or Wayne stopped doing them all, then we'd be in = trouble.
 
Our requirement that Tour events have = so many teams=20 has ended up putting people off running tournaments.  We = impose a=20 restriction that the venue be able to have 8 marked, full size=20 fields. 
 
I think this is the vital bit of Chris' = email:
> This then brings me to point = 2;
> Tour=20 Format / Organisation; all suggested alterations to the tour seem = to
>=20 make two assumptions; that either we are able to maintain the large size = of
> the teams at tour events, or that we can reduce the size of = the=20 events, by
> splitting different leagues, or divisions - which = will=20 require more TD's -
> something we haven't got.
 
Right.  So don't split the = Tour into=20 bits, simply *reduce the size* of the tournaments.
 
Effect:
1. Tour Events become easier to run = (and venues=20 easier to find).  I suggest that a few more candidate TDs will come = out of=20 the woodwork.
2. Lots of teams will need other places = to play -=20 more fun tournaments.  Likewise, these can remain at the 16-24 team = size.  Again I predict that some extremely keen players will = realise that=20 they need to and can do a few tournaments for themselves - without the = risk of=20 the Tour pulling away all the teams.
 
We should avoid saddling ourselves with = another=20 level of "BUF competition" (a B-Tour has been suggested in the = past).  Its=20 perfectly simple to come up with a reaonsably sensible way of providing=20 promotion and relegation into and out of the Tour using other = "unregulated"=20 tournaments.
 
The BUF = needs to encourage=20 all levels of tournament - and provide assistance to all levels of=20 tournament.  I think that this can be done quite effectively whilst = reducing the number of teams that play in the Tour.
 
I'm trying to stick to making a single = point. =20 I find that hard :)
 
Si 
------=_NextPart_000_00A4_01BF8637.F7BC4FA0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 6 07:55:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA22495 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22489 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28526 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA17216 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200003060747.HAA17216@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 11th March 2000 Warwick Indoors (2 days) @ University of Warwick, Coventry [Indoor Ultimate] Contact Sarah Kirwan Address Ultimate Frisbee University of Warwick Students Union Coventry CV4 7AL Email mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Phone 024 7652 3523 ext 25207 0780 3762810 (mobile) GB Training [ALL TEAMS] (1 day) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Contact Paul Unwin Email punwin@grantham.ac.uk BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Frostbreaker (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://axiom-emg.net/pookas Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 6 09:18:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA05761 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:16:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05754 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:16:00 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05303 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:15:59 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 09:10:08 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:14:19 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E557@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Indoor Nationals Entry Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:14:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Morning All, As of this morning (I left before postie arrived) only 3 teams, have successfully entered Indoor Nationals; They are; Druids OAP's Bears Angels The rest need to get their cheques in the post today, payable to 'Layout Dreams' for 85gbp, and include contact details + qualifying position. Anyone who has not got money to me by Tuesday evening, risks the possibility of forfeiting their qualifying slot. So sort it. Chris (PS if you have alre3ady sent a cheque and made it payable to me - that is no problem, I can cope :-) ) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 6 20:18:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA10379 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:16:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14574 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:29:10 GMT From: Gussvictor@aol.com Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA14575 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:01:02 GMT Received: from Gussvictor@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id 8.a0.1ee9ccf (7042) for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:00:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:00:27 EST Subject: Missing Cap To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to post this on Britdisc, but did anyone pick up a black cap at Doughboy practice this past weekend? It was a bit faded with the phrase, "Black Haus" on front. Please let me know. Thanks. Cheers, Vic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 6 20:34:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA15020 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:33:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10612 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:16:07 GMT Received: from mail.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04594 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:28:11 GMT Message-Id: <200003061228.MAA04594@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by mail.grantham.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <137J76S3>; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:19:50 -0000 From: "Paul Unwin (Grantham College)" To: w.davey@robsontaylor.co.uk Cc: britdisc , gb_masters@listbot.com Subject: Re: this weekend Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:28:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk GB practice this Saturday is to be held at Leicester University playing fields, Oadby Leicester. Directions are to be found at http://www.ravilious.net/gbtrain.gif Little food available on site so bring your own. Changing rooms and showers are available to use from 10am. stig From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 6 20:35:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA15199 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:33:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25433 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:23:38 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02182 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:23:31 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 06 Mar 2000 12:17:40 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:21:51 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E55C@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Indoor Nationals - Qualifiers Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 12:21:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At this stage those teams who have qualified by right - but have not necessarily entered successfully are; Scotland / North 1. Mud Culture 2. Three Frogs Midlands / North 1. Druids OAP's 2. Mexican Horse Bandits 3. Chevron AF 4. Baboom 5. Bears 1 South East 1. Strange Blue 2. Angels 3. Mohawks South West 1. Blue Arse Flies 2. D Please, Bob 3. CUL8R (Skunks) 4. Picnic (Hosts) Those of you that are good at Maths will note that this leaves 2 wild cards, since 2 teams from Scotland declined to enter Nationals. These positions will be confirmed later this week, along with any other wild cards due to teams not entering in time. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 08:47:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA19438 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:44:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19422 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:44:06 GMT Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (baby.kbw.co.uk [193.133.242.75]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21488 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:44:06 GMT Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1DK1DFT8>; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:44:05 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104AA91@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'Gussvictor@aol.com'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Missing Cap Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 08:44:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I got it Vic. Thought it might be someone's. Let me know how I can get it to you.. rt -----Original Message----- From: Gussvictor@aol.com [mailto:Gussvictor@aol.com] Sent: 06 March 2000 10:00 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Missing Cap Sorry to post this on Britdisc, but did anyone pick up a black cap at Doughboy practice this past weekend? It was a bit faded with the phrase, "Black Haus" on front. Please let me know. Thanks. Cheers, Vic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 09:06:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA24356 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:04:49 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24310 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:04:39 GMT Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18464 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:04:39 GMT Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12SFuS-0005n3-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:04:08 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:04:46 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8814.2F954B60.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: South West Regional Results Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:04:46 -0000 Organization: MwnciSee X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone have the results for the South West Regionals that took place a couple of days ago? Thanks, Al --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 20:50:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA08254 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:48:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29122 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:14:02 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28351 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:41:23 GMT Received: from [62.172.30.120] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12SKEg-000244-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:41:18 +0000 Message-ID: <010701bf883b$0cf82420$734c8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: GB in Leicester directions for this weekend Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:23:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all- Sorry about the delay in the directions. I had to take a week off and go to the beach. So- GB practice is at Oadby fields in Leicester. Arrival time is 10am. Practice starts at 10:30am. Don't be late. A map is available at http://www.ravilious.net/gbtrain.gif Written directions are below. Nancy Stebbing currently teamless Route to the New University of Leicester Playing Fields. By Train Leicester Station lies on the University side of the City Centre. Ask for the University of Leicester playing fields on Stoughton Road when you get into the taxi. By Car >From M1 Junction 21/M69 Follow A563 outer Ring Road to the roundabout at the Junction with the A6. Turn right at this roundabout and immediately left into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn right into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. >From A6 Loughborough Follow the A6 through the city towards Oadby. About three and a half miles from the city centre the road becomes a dual-carriageway. After the first roundabout turn first left into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn right into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. >From A47 Peterborough. Turn left into Spencefield Lane shortly after the 'City of Leicester' sign. This becomes Evington Lane. After the golf course on your left, turn left at the traffic lights into Stoughton Drive. Turn left at the next roundabout and immediate right into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn left into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. >From A6 Market Harborough Turn right when you come to Invicta Plastics on the A6 in Oadby (Traffic Lights) Continue on this road over three mini-roundabout. The playing fields are on your right. >From A50 Northampton Follow A50 to junction with Outer Ring Road. Turn right into A563 signposted to Oadby. Turn right at the first roundabout and immediately left into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn right into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 20:54:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA09597 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:52:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26057 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:24 GMT Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18686 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:21 GMT Received: from [212.140.71.68] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12SP3W-0007CU-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:06 +0000 Message-ID: <004e01bf8866$3a372f00$44478cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Re: Tour Format Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:47:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin- Your memory is even worse than your hammer- > I organised a tournament (one even more elitist than > the tour) last August the w/e before Worlds inviting > all of the UK open (all top 8) & Womens teams who were > competing at Worlds to a venue in London to play > against international opposition. None of teams other > than my own (UTI) and Bliss took up the offer, Four Non-Blondes attended, as a British women's team attending Worlds. No- we didn't do well, and as a team made up of mostly beginners, you shouldn't have expected much. BUT don't tar us with the same brush you use to wipe your ass with. We signed up early, didn't jerk you around with fees, and were prepared to play a two-day event- which we didn't get (as you had people who chose not to attend). Get your facts straight. Nancy Stebbing currently teamless From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 20:54:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA10039 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:53:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25977 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:15 GMT Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18667 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:12 GMT Received: from [212.140.71.68] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12SP3O-0007CU-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:49:58 +0000 Message-ID: <004c01bf8866$354ddc00$44478cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Re: London League 2000, summer leagues in general Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:44:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to be late with my two cents- I was on the beach-- > > Just fyi, the leagues in the states and canada are not > allowed to be joined by pre-formed teams...what you do > is enter individually, stating your fitness ability, > your ability ranking, how long you've played etc That's not strictly true. Pittsburgh has grown their summer league by something disgusting- like 400%- by coming up with a compromise. Teams ARE pre-formed, to a point. Here's how it works- A team 'enters' the draft with a player base of no more than 4 top-level players- i.e. players who play on the city open squad or are of high skill and just play for fun now. The players submit their playing skill level, but the organizing committe does sometimes step in to fix discrepancies. A team can have up to two more 'mid-level'players, and as many 'low-level'players as it wants in it's base, making it easy for beginners to play with people they know and making it worthwhile to recruit the studly sprinter who can't throw, yet. (As an aside, those of you who remember the American Brett who played with Shotgun a few years ago- he was recruited to my summer league team because he could run, but had enver played before. He became, as you might guess, a huge asset with a little training, so the system works.) All unassigned players are put into a draft. The draft DOES contain top-level players as well as beginners. The draft meeting also sees some team bases forming on the spot, with experienced players forming new teams which take only begginers in the draft to help the league grow. Anyway, the result is that you get a number of teams close in ability (although there are usually two or three teams above the average level); you get to play with people you might not get to play with on your competetive tournament team; and new players are recruited, trained, have fun, and most importantly come back the next year!!!!!! Just another way to do things- Nancy Stebbing currently teamless From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 20:55:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA10186 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:54:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26313 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:55 GMT Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14503 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:25 GMT Received: from [212.140.71.68] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12SP3b-0007CU-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:50:11 +0000 Message-ID: <004f01bf8866$3cc5c920$44478cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Re: GB in Leicester directions for this weekend Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:48:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all- Sorry about the delay in the directions. I had to take a week off and go to the beach. So- GB practice is at Oadby fields in Leicester. Arrival time is 10am. Practice starts at 10:30am. Don't be late. A map is available at http://www.ravilious.net/gbtrain.gif Written directions are below. Nancy Stebbing currently teamless Route to the New University of Leicester Playing Fields. By Train Leicester Station lies on the University side of the City Centre. Ask for the University of Leicester playing fields on Stoughton Road when you get into the taxi. By Car From M1 Junction 21/M69 Follow A563 outer Ring Road to the roundabout at the Junction with the A6. Turn right at this roundabout and immediately left into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn right into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. From A6 Loughborough Follow the A6 through the city towards Oadby. About three and a half miles from the city centre the road becomes a dual-carriageway. After the first roundabout turn first left into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn right into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. From A47 Peterborough. Turn left into Spencefield Lane shortly after the 'City of Leicester' sign. This becomes Evington Lane. After the golf course on your left, turn left at the traffic lights into Stoughton Drive. Turn left at the next roundabout and immediate right into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn left into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. From A6 Market Harborough Turn right when you come to Invicta Plastics on the A6 in Oadby (Traffic Lights) Continue on this road over three mini-roundabout. The playing fields are on your right. From A50 Northampton Follow A50 to junction with Outer Ring Road. Turn right into A563 signposted to Oadby. Turn right at the first roundabout and immediately left into Stoughton Drive South. At the brow of the hill turn right into Manor Road. Continue to the end of the road and then turn left at the mini-roundabout. The playing fields are 200m further on your right. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 21:04:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA13395 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:02:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09505 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:42:51 GMT From: richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28551 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:42:44 GMT Received: from modem-142.kleins-butterfly.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.216.142] helo=jacksoniii) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12SN4F-0003wf-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:42:43 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:45:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Lift to Leicester Needed X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: X-BadReturnPath: jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net rewritten as richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk using "From" header Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I need to get down to Leicester to try and get into the GB junior team I am only 15 so driving can't really work. I live in London(Edgware North London) and I would really appreciate a lift off anyone. Cheers. Richard Jackson (Any bloody team) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 21:08:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA14313 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:06:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11990 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:41:17 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01898 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:41:15 GMT Received: from [62.172.30.120] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12SKEj-000244-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:41:21 +0000 Message-ID: <010901bf883b$0e929a40$734c8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" References: <20000303232723.692.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tour Format Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:34:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin- Your memory is even worse than your hammer- > I organised a tournament (one even more elitist than > the tour) last August the w/e before Worlds inviting > all of the UK open (all top 8) & Womens teams who were > competing at Worlds to a venue in London to play > against international opposition. None of teams other > than my own (UTI) and Bliss took up the offer, Four Non-Blondes attended, as a British women's team attending Worlds. No- we didn't do well, and as a team made up of mostly beginners, you shouldn't have expected much. BUT don't tar us with the same brush you use to wipe your ass with. We signed up early, didn't jerk you around with fees, qand were prepared to play a two-day event. Get your facts straight. Nancy Stebbing currently teamless From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 21:44:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA26279 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:43:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24512 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:39:35 GMT Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (web802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.62]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20319 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:39:19 GMT Received: (qmail 29888 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2000 12:39:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20000307123904.29887.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.36.171.210] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 04:39:04 PST Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 04:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?andy=20lucey?= Subject: Golf Tournaments To: britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The 2000 bdga golf tour kicks off this weekend at whitcombe farm in dorset. The tour this year will comprise 12 events of which 10 are open to all (ultimate players included !) For the first time this year we have introduced an amateur division to encourage new players to the sport and each tournament will run a seperate event for players in this division. All are welcome. I have detailed below the complete schedule - i dont think too many dates conflict with Ultimate tournaments. If anyone has any questions or wants to know a bit more about the tournaments taking place- please contact me on 'andylucey@yahoo.com' Mch 11/12 Frostbreaker Beaminster April 1/2 April Fools Quarry Park April 29/30 Scottish Open Mull May 20/21 Hayling Hurricane Hayling June 17/18 Quarry Park Open Quarry Park July 22/23 British Open Beaminster August 5/6 Pro-Am Oxford August 26/27 Caledonian Edinburgh Sept 9/10 North vs South Quarry Park Sept 23/24 Solstice 4 Burnlaw Oct 7/8 tbc Essex Open Colchester Nov 4/5 Matchplay singles 4 Bristol BDGA Annual Dinner ===== The Doors and the Beatles are sitting in a hotel lobby. Theres suddenly a loud bang and Monica Lewinsky bursts in and does what shes famous for- proceeds to 'go down' on Jim Morrison & the rest of the band. She is just about to start on Ringo Starr when Micheal Caine runs in and shouts 'hold on, i only asked you to blow the bloody doors off!' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 22:05:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA00835 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:02:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19356 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:34:27 GMT Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00751 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:00:15 GMT Received: from east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (east-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.6]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12274 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:00:14 GMT Message-Id: <200003071700.RAA12274@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H15/SpoolDir by east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 7 Mar 00 17:00:35 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H15 (Mercury 1.45); 7 Mar 00 17:00:18 GMT From: "Silk" Organization: University of Leeds To: "'Britdisc'" Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 16:59:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: DJ Phat Heads X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Looking to Contact DJ from Phat Heads, Somone got an e-mail address or phone. Ta Silk _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 7 22:54:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA16764 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:53:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07739 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:43:52 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12432 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:43:48 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:37:55 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:42:08 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E56C@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Britdisc'" , "'all7@aber.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: South West Regional Results Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:42:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'll give what I can but hopefully one of the organisers will confirm the final placings. 1. BAF1 (Yippee1 - honest I'm not biased) 2. I'll have a D please, Bob! 3. CUL8R (Skunks) 4. NightFever 1 5 BAF2 (Yippee! - see earlier) Now I'm struggling (thats not actually a team - more a statement) Chris DoC BAF18 > ---------- > From: Alex Livingstone[SMTP:all7@aber.ac.uk] > Sent: 07 March 2000 09:04 > To: 'Britdisc' > Subject: South West Regional Results > > Hi, > > Does anyone have the results for the South West Regionals that took place > a couple of days ago? > > Thanks, > > Al > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Alex Livingstone > President of Mwnci See > University of Wales, Aberystwyth > Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 10:34:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA00619 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:30:49 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05630 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:54:45 GMT Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22696 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:54:45 GMT Received: from pccgga.ccu.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.17.136] helo=pccgga) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12SdAU-0002yd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:54:14 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000308095451.009016d0@pophost.aber.ac.uk> X-Sender: all7@pophost.aber.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 09:54:51 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: ALEXANDER EDEN LIVINGSTONE Subject: South West Regionals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello again, I don't mean to be a pain (and thanks to Chris for the top five) but does anyone have the results for the rest of the teams. I am trying to compile a list of results for all the tournaments that take place this year. Thanks, Alex Mwnci See and Baboom ---------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone ---------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 11:04:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13798 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:01:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13708 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:00:44 GMT Received: from mailhost3.dircon.co.uk (mailhost3.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.67]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05177 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:00:43 GMT Received: from [194.112.55.182] (th-en138-182.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.55.182]) by mailhost3.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22212 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:00:25 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.8] by daletaylor.co.uk (CommuniGate SMTP 2.9) with ESMTP id S.001732854821 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:00:20 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:01:12 +0100 Subject: Re: Golf Tournaments From: Nolan Taylor To: britdisc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000307123904.29887.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ? 3?R 3? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 7/3/00 1:39 pm, andy lucey at andylucey@yahoo.com wrote: > The 2000 bdga golf tour kicks off this weekend at whitcombe farm in dorset. > The tour this year will comprise 12 events of which 10 are open to all > (ultimate players > included !) > For the first time this year we have introduced an amateur division to > encourage new > players to the sport and each tournament will run a seperate event for players > in this > division. > All are welcome. > I have detailed below the complete schedule - i dont think too many dates > conflict with > Ultimate tournaments. ...and about time too, that this particular penny dropped, apparently unlike the testicles of many a golfer. In previous years the calendar co-ordination by golf organisers has been so juvenile and inept that (were one to believe the average golfer capable of a basic level of cunning) it actually appeared at times as though golf events were being double booked with ultimate events intentionally. > If anyone has any questions or wants to know a bit more about the tournaments > taking > place- please contact me on 'andylucey@yahoo.com' > > Mch 11/12 Frostbreaker Beaminster > April 1/2 April Fools Quarry Park > April 29/30 Scottish Open Mull > May 20/21 Hayling Hurricane Hayling > June 17/18 Quarry Park Open Quarry Park > July 22/23 British Open Beaminster > August 5/6 Pro-Am Oxford > August 26/27 Caledonian Edinburgh > Sept 9/10 North vs South Quarry Park > Sept 23/24 Solstice 4 Burnlaw > Oct 7/8 tbc Essex Open Colchester > Nov 4/5 Matchplay singles 4 Bristol > BDGA Annual Dinner > > So it's just March 11th - GB Training, April 29/30 - TourI, May 20/21 TourII, August 5/6 - Worlds and September 23/24 - Nationals. So not many clashes at all then! So golf boys... just what is your problem? By the way that was rhetorical, so you won't get a reply to your 'ooh it's so difficult to organise these things' excuses. So, after April 1st ('nuff said!) my first opportunity to don the traditional anorak of the golf aficionado is June. Then theres one in September that one may or may not be good enough to play in. Huh! Thanks a bunch. Nolan From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 11:47:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA03649 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:44:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03625 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:44:20 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12715 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:44:13 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:38:13 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:42:27 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E570@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc , "'Nolan Taylor'" Subject: RE: Golf Tournaments Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:42:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nolan, In defence of the golfers (what am I saying!?!), they asked me for a definitive calendar a while back, to try and ensure that there weren't too many clashes. I didn't give them a calendar, on the grounds that the dates weren't fixed. If I have waded in with the collective weight of the ultimate players and stomped on the golfing dates, then I duly apologise. However since I have enough difficulty fixing the dates for the tour I am not really considering the added complication of working around the Golf dates. Chris DoC > ---------- > From: Nolan Taylor[SMTP:nolan@daletaylor.co.uk] > Sent: 08 March 2000 10:01 > To: britdisc > Subject: Re: Golf Tournaments > > ? 3?R 3? > Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > on 7/3/00 1:39 pm, andy lucey at andylucey@yahoo.com wrote: > > > The 2000 bdga golf tour kicks off this weekend at whitcombe farm in > dorset. > > The tour this year will comprise 12 events of which 10 are open to all > > (ultimate players > > included !) > > For the first time this year we have introduced an amateur division to > > encourage new > > players to the sport and each tournament will run a seperate event for > players > > in this > > division. > > All are welcome. > > I have detailed below the complete schedule - i dont think too many > dates > > conflict with > > Ultimate tournaments. > > ...and about time too, that this particular penny dropped, apparently > unlike > the testicles of many a golfer. In previous years the calendar > co-ordination > by golf organisers has been so juvenile and inept that (were one to > believe > the average golfer capable of a basic level of cunning) it actually > appeared > at times as though golf events were being double booked with ultimate > events > intentionally. > > > If anyone has any questions or wants to know a bit more about the > tournaments > > taking > > place- please contact me on 'andylucey@yahoo.com' > > > > Mch 11/12 Frostbreaker Beaminster > > April 1/2 April Fools Quarry Park > > April 29/30 Scottish Open Mull > > May 20/21 Hayling Hurricane Hayling > > June 17/18 Quarry Park Open Quarry Park > > July 22/23 British Open Beaminster > > August 5/6 Pro-Am Oxford > > August 26/27 Caledonian Edinburgh > > Sept 9/10 North vs South Quarry Park > > Sept 23/24 Solstice 4 Burnlaw > > Oct 7/8 tbc Essex Open Colchester > > Nov 4/5 Matchplay singles 4 Bristol > > BDGA Annual Dinner > > > > > > So it's just March 11th - GB Training, April 29/30 - TourI, May 20/21 > TourII, August 5/6 - Worlds and September 23/24 - Nationals. > > So not many clashes at all then! > > So golf boys... just what is your problem? By the way that was rhetorical, > so you won't get a reply to your 'ooh it's so difficult to organise these > things' excuses. > > So, after April 1st ('nuff said!) my first opportunity to don the > traditional anorak of the golf aficionado is June. Then theres one in > September that one may or may not be good enough to play in. Huh! Thanks a > bunch. > > Nolan > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 11:56:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA09096 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:54:11 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09019 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:54:04 GMT Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA17801 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 02:43:37 GMT Received: (qmail 12264 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Mar 2000 02:43:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308024336.12263.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.228.129.11] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:43:36 PST Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: Re: Tour Format To: Nancy Stebbing , britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nancy, Sorry, I forgot about 4NB - Apologies. Found your hammer yet? CW. --- Nancy Stebbing wrote: > Colin- > > Your memory is even worse than your hammer- > > > > I organised a tournament (one even more elitist > than > > the tour) last August the w/e before Worlds > inviting > > all of the UK open (all top 8) & Womens teams who > were > > competing at Worlds to a venue in London to play > > against international opposition. None of teams > other > > than my own (UTI) and Bliss took up the offer, > > Four Non-Blondes attended, as a British women's > team attending Worlds. No- > we didn't do well, and as a team made up of mostly > beginners, you shouldn't > have expected much. > > BUT don't tar us with the same brush you use to > wipe your ass with. We > signed up early, didn't jerk you around with fees, > and were prepared to > play a two-day event- which we didn't get (as you > had people who chose not > to attend). > > Get your facts straight. > > Nancy Stebbing > currently teamless > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 12:21:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA22485 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:18:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22469 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:18:34 GMT Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk (bob.dera.gov.uk [192.5.29.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28575 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:18:32 GMT Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id MAA16733; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:20:27 GMT Received: (qmail 25560 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2000 13:15:03 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 13:15:03 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id MAA26390; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:11:00 GMT Received: from unknown(146.80.11.40) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma026354; Wed, 8 Mar 00 12:10:42 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:20:28 +0000 Received: by FRN-GOLD-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:17:26 -0000 Message-Id: From: Webber Neil To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: SW regionals Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:17:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think you'll find..... 5 Point Blank 6 BAF2 Still yippeeing Chris? Bruce Point Blank -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 13:29:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA20622 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:27:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20588 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:27:17 GMT From: KLittle@Warnaco.com Received: from mail.warnaco.com ([208.162.105.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29420 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:27:03 GMT Received: from warnex2.warnaco.com ([208.162.105.72]) by mail.warnaco.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14433 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:14:36 -0500 Received: by warnex2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:27:37 -0500 Message-ID: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB squad 2000 Logo Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:28:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF8902.11CCFD50" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8902.11CCFD50 Content-Type: text/plain Hey here is message for budding artists all over the place. The GB Squad needs a logo, design, badge... something. Can you create something awesome for print and/or embroidery...? Nothing has actually been totally confirmed, but colour scheme will probly be White with Blue and Blue with White. I know the most creative people play Ultimate. So i expect lots of kickass designs... asap please send these ideas to GBUltimate@listbot.com and/or samanir@hotmail.com Go on, get Creative.. and waste no time.... sam ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8902.11CCFD50 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GB squad 2000 Logo

Hey

here is message for budding artists = all over the place.

The GB Squad needs a logo, design, = badge...  something.
Can you create something awesome for = print and/or embroidery...?

Nothing has actually been totally = confirmed, but colour scheme will probly be White with Blue and Blue = with White.

I know the most creative people play = Ultimate.  So i expect lots of kickass designs...  = asap

please send these ideas to = GBUltimate@listbot.com
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Go on, get Creative..  and waste = no time....

sam

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8902.11CCFD50-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 13:36:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA24334 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:34:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24308 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:34:45 GMT From: KLittle@Warnaco.com Received: from mail.warnaco.com ([208.162.105.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09689 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:34:41 GMT Received: from warnex2.warnaco.com ([208.162.105.72]) by mail.warnaco.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14492 for ; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:22:12 -0500 Received: by warnex2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:35:14 -0500 Message-ID: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FREE Ultimate competition Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:35:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF8903.222A80C2" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8903.222A80C2 Content-Type: text/plain well nearly free with the GB practice happening in Leicester this w/e. we, in Nottingham are hosting a mini tourney. a rambunciousround robin for the sunday sesh. Already there are a couple of Paganello teams and three uni teams. so, if you are game for some games. Sunday is the day, Nottingham the place. The Meadows fields, the Location. Everyone feel free to come along, bring a friend, or a car load, maybe even bring a whole team. Bring your studs. (maybe a rain coat) dont worry if you think you are too good, or particularly bad. We are SuperFly, you will be made welcome. this includes you Paul. mail klittle@warnaco.com or samanir@hotmail.com or for last minute directions.... telephone Ben on 07971 699702 or at home with Dani n Dene 0115 985 6513 its up to you and costs nothing but travel and time. <<...>> ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8903.222A80C2 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FREE Ultimate competition

well nearly free

with the GB practice happening in = Leicester this w/e.  we, in Nottingham are hosting a mini = tourney.  a rambunciousround robin for the sunday sesh.  =

Already there are a couple of = Paganello teams and three uni teams.
so, if you are game for some = games.  Sunday is the day, Nottingham the place.  The Meadows = fields, the Location.

Everyone feel free to come along, = bring a friend, or a car load, maybe even bring a whole team.

Bring your studs. (maybe a rain = coat)

dont worry if you think you are too = good, or particularly bad. 
We are SuperFly, you will be made = welcome.

this includes you Paul.

mail klittle@warnaco.com
or samanir@hotmail.com
or for last minute directions.... = telephone Ben on 07971 699702
or at home with Dani n Dene 0115 985 = 6513

its up to you

and costs nothing but travel and = time.



<<...>> =

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF8903.222A80C2-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 13:39:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA25522 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:38:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25364 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:37:49 GMT Received: from mailhost ([195.226.55.115]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA02952 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:37:39 GMT Received: from pc124.videosystem.co.uk (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:36:51 +0000 Received: by pc124.videosystem.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BF8902.F380AEE0@pc124.videosystem.co.uk>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:33:55 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8902.F380AEE0@pc124.videosystem.co.uk> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: South West Regionals and short report Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:33:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA25370 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I hate people who try and guess when they can't remember, but I'll give it a shot. Initial seedings in brackets. 1 Blue Arse Flies 1 (1) 2 I'll have a D Please Bob (5) 3 CUL8R (Skunks 1) (4) 4 Night Fever 1 (6) 5 Point Blank (3) 6 Blue Arse Flies 2 (10) 7 Mr Men (2) 8 Uriel 1 (7) 9 Skunks 2 (11) Plate winners 10 Night Fever 2 (9) 11 Picnic 1 (8) 12 Picnic 2 (13) 13 Skunks 3 (15) Spoon winners 14 Uriel 2 (12) 15 Golden Oldies (14) 16 Picnic 3 (16) Spirit went to Skunks 3 Best Layout (pass out) to Chris Dunkley Party award went to someone from Uriel 2 First real shock of the tournament was the initial seedings, with last year's finalists D Bob and Night Fever being seeded 5th and 6th. Thanks to there being two pools of 8, it didn't really matter. Pool A went almost according to seeding except for D Bob wiping out Point Blank (OK, I'm biased, but Point Blank did not have a great game). Pool B was far more interesting with top seeds Mr Men playing iron person all weekend, and getting unsteadily more drunk as Saturday progressed. They ended up 4th in the pool. Upsets included Night Fever 1 beating CUL8R by a point, and BAF 2 beating Night Fever 1 by a point (CUL8R beat BAF 2 by 2 points). All was set for a three way tie at the top until final game on Saturday saw Picnic 1 beat BAF 2 in sudden death (neither team could improve their position regardless of result due to previous losses / goal difference) but it did mean that Night Fever 1 ended up topping the pool rather than CUL8R because they had won the head to head. Quarter finals Sunday morning produced no upsets with BAF 1, D Bob, Night Fever 1 and CUL8R all going through. Semi finals saw CUL8R lose by just a single point to BAF 1 while D Bob ran out an early lead of 5 points and traded for the rest of the game. 5-8 was resolved by Point Blank finding their form beating first Mr Men, and then BAF 2. Uriel 1 had no answer to the Mr Men's hucks to Rich, and so finished 8th. In the bottom half, Skunks 2 had found their form and neatly dispatched everyone on route to the Plate trophy. Quick mention for the juniors playing for Night Fever 2 who were playing in their first ever tournament, and for the Fever players who helped them. 11/12 playoff saw Picnic 1 meet Picnic 2 in a bit of a grudge match, but the first team came out easy winners (as you would expect, but often doesn't happen like that). And so to the final. D Bob never really believed they could win it (even though CUL8R had come close), but just wanted to avoid being embarrassed. BAF took an early lead, with very few offensive mistakes from either team. D Bob managed to claw their way back to 8-8, but then the mistakes crept in with a couple of drops and headrush chuckaways. Chris and Jo did a good job of keeping Merrick quiet, but that just made the rest of BAF play better. Usual impressive layouts from Sitch, surprisingly good layout from Alan, and great 'OOF!' noise from Chris Hughes as he laid out (but missed). Flies ran out eventual winners 15-10 in the 40 minutes final, having capitalised better on D Bob's mistakes. Can't remember many calls other than Chris Berry calling strip on Chris Hughes which got the crowd going. Great final to play in, no idea how it looked to everyone else. Sorry we never took the lead to give the crowd more to shout about. Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | If everyone who loves their job shouldn't ask a fee | Then everyone who hates their job should get the wage of three. |--- | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | email me, and I'll tell you how. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 13:54:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA02149 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:53:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02135 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:53:00 GMT From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11477 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:53:00 GMT Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id OAA05524 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:52:51 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma005522; Wed, 8 Mar 00 14:52:51 +0100 Received: from notessmtp-nl2.philips.com (notessmtp-nl2.philips.com [130.139.36.11]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id OAA22225 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:52:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl2.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id OAA15762 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:52:49 +0100 (MET) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900007488183; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:54:45 +0100 To: Subject: LOOKING FOR Message-ID: <0056900007488183000002L032*@MHS> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:54:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 03/08/00 14:50:44" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA02137 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have contact e-mails for Chris Berry & Joe? cheers Hannah From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 14:51:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA21297 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:49:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21279 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:49:01 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19134 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:49:00 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 8 Mar 100 14:47:40 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 8 Mar 100 14:47:21 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:47:17 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Golf Tournaments In-reply-to: References: <20000307123904.29887.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <5114C1B7786@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good afternoon, I wouldn't normally clutter britdisc with anything resembling a flame but there's so few golf postings I feel I need to make the most of the opportunity to highlight the golf tour. Andy Lucey wrote.. > > division. All are welcome. I have detailed below the complete schedule - > > i dont think too many dates conflict with Ultimate tournaments. Nolan followed with ... > ...and about time too, that this particular penny dropped, apparently > unlike the testicles of many a golfer. In previous years the calendar > co-ordination by golf organisers has been so juvenile and inept that (were > one to believe the average golfer capable of a basic level of cunning) it > actually appeared at times as though golf events were being double booked > with ultimate events intentionally. Nolan certainly is talking bollocks! > > > If anyone has any questions or wants to know a bit more about the > > tournaments taking place- please contact me on 'andylucey@yahoo.com' > > > > Mch 11/12 Frostbreaker Beaminster > > April 1/2 April Fools Quarry Park > > April 29/30 Scottish Open Mull > > May 20/21 Hayling Hurricane Hayling > > June 17/18 Quarry Park Open Quarry Park > > July 22/23 British Open Beaminster > > August 5/6 Pro-Am Oxford > > August 26/27 Caledonian Edinburgh > > Sept 9/10 North vs South Quarry Park > > Sept 23/24 Solstice 4 Burnlaw > > Oct 7/8 tbc Essex Open Colchester > > Nov 4/5 Matchplay singles 4 Bristol > > BDGA Annual Dinner > > > > > > So it's just March 11th - GB Training, April 29/30 - TourI, May 20/21 > TourII, August 5/6 - Worlds and September 23/24 - Nationals. The Tour 1 date changed after we had fixed our calendar, it was originally planned for April 15/16. Aug 5/6 is just a fun tournie, it clashes with PDGA Worlds too. > So not many clashes at all then! I entirely agree!!!!! Especially as we schedule to avoid A tier clashing with eurotour events. We also try to space our events fairly evenly. Can't please all the people all the time. > So golf boys... just what is your problem? By the way that was rhetorical, > so you won't get a reply to your 'ooh it's so difficult to organise these > things' excuses. It is though isn't it? > So, after April 1st ('nuff said!) my first opportunity to don the > traditional anorak of the golf aficionado is June. Then theres one in > September that one may or may not be good enough to play in. Huh! Thanks a > bunch. > > Nolan > We do miss you Nolan, hope you make a few tournies. All that Ulti is not good for you at your age :-) Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 15:41:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA09408 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:40:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09353; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:40:12 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (mavea@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27437; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:39:49 GMT From: mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk Received: from localhost (mavea@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14243; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:39:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: mavea owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:39:20 +0000 (GMT) To: James Smalley , Simon Ottner , Steve Harris , Elisabeth Katsavras , Lucy Smallwood , Alex Livingstone , Tim Blair , Arun Sharma , Si Barry , Andy Vaughan , Joe McGrath , Ben Rolfe , James Hewitson cc: Britdisc , Mark Challis , Mark Jefferson Subject: Info for Warwick Indoors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Information for Warwick Indoors, including schedules, was sent out to team contacts last week. However, just to keep everyone informed, here's the starting times for all teams: 9.15 Angels v Bears 4 9.32 Look At Me v Bears 2 9.49 BAF v WAS 10.06 Bears 1 v Jesters 10.23 Whiplash v Bears 3 10.40 Baboom v Janitors 10.57 Substance Abuse v Mwnci See 11.14 Fifth Element v Mud Culture There will be no captains meeting but do not be late. I have been given the following information, so if you think it's wrong for your team get in touch asap. Teams arriving Friday night: Substance Abuse (staying with Chris, Ed, James) Mud Culture (Challis and Lottie) Angels (Lucy) Janitors (Norm) Teams needing accomodation Saturday night: Substance Abuse (Chris, Ed, James) Mud Culture (Challis and Lottie) Baboom (Sarah, Mat, Gray) Mwnci See (Meg) Angels (Lucy) Janitors (Norm) Teams wanting tickets for Boogie Nights: Whiplash Substance Abuse WAS Baboom Mwnci See BAF Any team arriving on Friday night should meet in the New Varsity pub (next to campus and marked on map sent to team contact). if you get lost or think you aren't going to make last orders then call my mobile 0780 3762810. There should be Bears in the pub from about 8pm. On Saturday night we will be meeting in the New Varsity pub from 7pm. Food will be available definitely till 8pm and possibly till 10pm - this will be confirmed later. We will then move on to the union for "Boogie Nights" (think 70s disco with big flares and afros as optional!) for those who have bought tickets in advance. It may be possible to buy tickets on Friday night or Saturday but I'm not certain about this. Sarah (Bears) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 17:59:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA24685 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:57:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24675 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:57:37 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15113 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:57:31 GMT Received: from p102-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.244.252] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12Skaw-00024g-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:50:02 +0000 Message-ID: <004f01bf8927$708bc040$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" References: <20000303232723.692.qmail@web1404.mail.yahoo.com> <010901bf883b$0e929a40$734c8cd4@ianstebb> Subject: Re: Tour Format Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:53:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Nancy Stebbing > currently teamless I've noticed a lot of people with no team on britdisc recently (myself included). I'm struggling to sort out a team in my home town for the tour, so I'm looking into setting up a (please forgive me) telephone/e-mail team instead. Anybody out there that would love to play on the tour but does not have a team/local team please get in touch and I'll see what we can do. Thanks, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 8 18:58:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA10478 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:57:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10462 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:57:15 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.57]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20414 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:57:12 GMT Received: (qmail 98952 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2000 18:56:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000308185640.98951.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.114.33.95 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:56:39 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.114.33.95] From: "Kerry maybury" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: S.W. Results Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:56:39 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Guy's, The results from the Plymouth Qualifiers were as follows: 16) Picnic 3 15) Golden Oldies 14) Skunks 3 13) Uriel 2 (Spoon) 12) Picnic 2 11) Picnic 1 10) Fever 2 9) Skunks 2 (Plate) 8) Uriel 1 7) Mr Men 6) BAF 2 5) Point Blank 4) Fever 1 3) C U L8R 2) D-Bob 1) BAF 1 Congratulations to all those who qualified for the nationals, see you in three weekend's time. Thank's to all of you coming down and making it a great weekend. Lastly i have some lost property: British open '98 water bottle Grey long-sleved CZECH U team shirt White mandela t-shirt Black layout dreams shirt Plain black t-shirt Black Gooey Kaplooie t-shirt Point Blank t-shirt (pie man) Navy asics sweat shirt Black adidas sweat shirt Black tracksuit bottoms Thank's for a brill weekend, Kerry Picnic Pres. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 9 11:00:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA23343 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:54:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23329 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:54:57 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17791 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:54:56 GMT Received: from [62.172.20.154] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12T0as-0003UJ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:55:02 +0000 Message-ID: <002301bf89b6$28f10300$9a14ac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: GB practice in April Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:54:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you planning ahead, GB practice in April is April 15 in Milton Keynes at Woughton Playing Fields (the usual place) Don't forget that practice this weekend is in Leicester!! Nancy Stebbing currently teamless From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 9 13:18:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA19729 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:15:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03180 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:31:28 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16700 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:31:18 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05053 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:31:16 GMT Received: from B62C-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62c-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.138]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.8.8/relay-02) with SMTP id MAA22173 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:23:55 GMT From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoor finals In-Reply-To: <200003060747.HAA17216@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 12:23:54 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where to send cheques for the national indoor finals to confirm entry? Is it directly to Plymouth or somewhere else? Cheers Kev (CUL8R) ---------------------- Kevin kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 9 18:41:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA24785 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:39:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24766 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:39:39 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22988 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:39:39 GMT Received: from p38-nsv1-cardiff3.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([212.250.66.188] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12T7jJ-0004r0-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:32:13 +0000 Message-ID: <005e01bf89f6$7f2bcbc0$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" References: Subject: Telephone tour team Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:34:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01BF89F6.21E6D7C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BF89F6.21E6D7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FREE Ultimate competitionHi all, Following on from my message the other day, I have had several positive = replies and it looks as if a team will go ahead. However, we will need = some more players, as many as possible infact. So no matter what level you play at (we currently have experienced and = some beginners of all ages), if you are currently teamless or your team = is not entering the tour and you want to play, get in touch and we'll = see if we can make it happen. Thanks, Matt ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BF89F6.21E6D7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FREE Ultimate competition
Hi all,
 
Following on from my message the other = day, I have=20 had several positive replies and it looks as if a team will go ahead. = However,=20 we will need some more players, as many as possible infact.
 
So no matter what level you play at (we = currently=20 have experienced and some beginners of all ages), if you are currently = teamless=20 or your team is not entering the tour and you want to play, get in touch = and=20 we'll see if we can make it happen.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BF89F6.21E6D7C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 10 00:16:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA01956 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:12:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01951 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:11:59 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f301.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.176]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA05972 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:11:59 GMT Received: (qmail 31761 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 2000 08:58:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20000310085854.31760.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.114.33.201 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:58:54 PST X-Originating-IP: [212.114.33.201] From: "Kerry maybury" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: more s.w. lost property Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:58:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a few more item's of lost property from the S.W. qualifiers: Black nike water bottle Black hunting hat(has those ear bits) Black nike vest Grey moto fleece Kerry Picnic Pres. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 10 00:38:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA17932 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:37:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17923 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:37:20 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f92.hotmail.com [216.32.181.92]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA08075 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:37:19 GMT Received: (qmail 74016 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 2000 00:36:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20000310003647.74015.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.163.206.206 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2000 16:36:47 PST X-Originating-IP: [152.163.206.206] From: "D K" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Disc left at Indoor Qualifiers, Towcester (Dave & Terri) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:36:47 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone leave a disc at the Towcester Sports Centre - the SE Qualifiers for the National Indoor competition? It's marked with 'Dave and Terri' on the underside, so I'm sure someone can tell me who it belongs to... will the owners be at the Finals in Plymouth, cos I can hand it over then. dk Chevron AF ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 10 15:30:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA21511 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:27:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21471 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:27:23 GMT Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21808 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:27:22 GMT Received: from south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (south-02.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.2]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09182 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:27:17 GMT Message-Id: <200003101527.PAA09182@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H12/SpoolDir by south-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 10 Mar 00 15:27:39 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H12 (Mercury 1.45); 10 Mar 00 15:27:16 GMT0BST From: "Chris Richardson" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:27:01 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: pie man is a spoon X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've heard on the grapevine that my green Point Blank shirt is kicking around somewhere. If anyone knows of its whereabouts can they mail me back please and we can make arrangements for its collection (this is probably quite important for whoever has it since it will smell!!!) Cheers Chris - Pie man Chris Richardson- phs6cr@leeds.ac.uk or fluffy_nicholls@hotmail.com 66 Harold Terrace, Leeds. LS61LD (0113) 2176998 or 07808 538077 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 11 18:47:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA00056 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:44:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00045 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:44:34 GMT Received: from reseller.netlink.co.uk (reseller.netlink.co.uk [194.88.140.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04129 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:44:34 GMT Received: (qmail 5179 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2000 18:44:28 -0000 Received: from 197.02-01.quay.dial.plus.net.uk (HELO SNOWHITE) (212.159.65.197) by mpop.netlink.co.uk with SMTP; 11 Mar 2000 18:44:28 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Pete Harvey" To: "Britdisc@Csv. Warwick. Ac. Uk" Subject: jumble sale? Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:43:41 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF8B89.B8FD9470" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF8B89.B8FD9470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GBers, at GB practice in Lester this avo I picked up a nice Breitling watch and a blue speedo jacket (which was nearby) any claimers? 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britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200003130747.HAA23909@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://axiom-emg.net/pookas Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 10:45:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA04698 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:05 GMT Received: from nt6935.csv.warwick.ac.uk (nt6935 [137.205.42.8]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04676 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:03 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:43:02 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: Miss S Kirwan To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Warick Indoors - Results Message-ID: X-X-Sender: mavea@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone who came to Warwick Indoors for making it a fantastic tournament, and as it was my last indoor tournament as a Bear, it was a great one to finish on. Results in reverse order are: 16. Bears 4 15. Bears 3 (spoon) 14. Janitors 13. Mwnci See 12. Mud Culture 11. WAS 10. Bears 2 9. BAF (plate) 8. Jesters 7. Whiplash 6. Substance Abuse 5. Fifth Element 4. Baboom 3. Bears 1 2. Look At Me 1. Angels Spirit of the game: Fifth Element Party Award : Substance Abuse Both the spirit and party awards were closely contested with over half the teams getting a spirit vote, showing the spirit held by all teams over the weekend. Teams in contention for the party award included Whiplash, Bears 2 and Blue Arse Flies, but in the end it came down to a difficult decision between Janitors and Substance Abuse. It was eventually decided that Substance Abuse should take the title. If anyone wants to comment on any of the games, particularly the final then go ahead. Unfortunately I didn't get to see much of the final few games so I'm not really in a position to do that myself. Final thanks to all Bears who helped out with scoring, food, accomodation, party and clearing up. It made my job a lot easier with all the support I had. I have a small collection of lost property (most notably a pair of trainers which I'd really like to get rid of!) but as the Sports Centre was in use by other people I didn't want to pick up too much at the end of the tournament. Therefore, if anyone has lost anything, get in touch with me and I'll go ask at the Sports Centre if I don't have it. See you outdoors! Sarah (Bears) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 11:17:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA14634 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14617 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:54 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27963 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:53 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA02719; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA09270; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA21723; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:12 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:11 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0419FAB1@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: GB Open Team Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, I am pleased to announce the GB Open squad for 2000. Please join me in congratulating those who have made the team. <<...>> The choice of players was exceedingly difficult, reflecting the rise in the number a players regularly playing top level ultimate in the UK. Looking forward to a successful WUGC2000. Aram From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 11:24:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA17485 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:23:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17478 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:23:21 GMT Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10589 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:23:20 GMT Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA05444; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA10588; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:22:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA22716; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:22:46 GMT Received: by exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:22:46 -0000 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0419FAB2@exlon05.lonserv1.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "Flores, Aram" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: GB Open Team Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:22:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > All, > > I am pleased to announce the GB Open squad for 2000. Please join me in > congratulating those who have made the team. > > GB2000 Open Team > First Name Last Name Last Team > Aram Flores Dough > Alex Bowers UTI > Alex Evans UTI > Andrew Tucker UTI > Christian Nistri Catch > Doug Milne UTI > Guy Bowles UTI > Ian Pearmain UTI > Jolyon Thompson Druids > Paul (Larry) Larkin Catch > Matthew Hims Catch > Nick Smith Catch > Paolo Nistri Catch > Pete Harvey Dough > Rafael Freire Catch > Rick Shipley UTI > Roger Thomson Dough > Simon Hill Catch > Simon Moore Bristol > Stu Mitchell Chevy > Lee Noble UTI > > Practice Squad > Chris Berry Druids > > > > The choice of players was exceedingly difficult, reflecting the rise in > the number a players regularly playing top level ultimate in the UK. > > Looking forward to a successful WUGC2000. > > Aram > > (I attached it the first time but apparently Britdisc stripped it out!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 19:09:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA27332 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:07:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27321 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:07:05 GMT Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04995 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:07:05 GMT Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12UaAl-0003rl-00; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:06:35 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:07:42 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8D1F.6841AB60.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'Britdisc'" , "'Student Ultimate'" Subject: UK Ultimate Website Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:07:39 -0000 Organization: MwnciSee X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, I have developed a new website all about Ultimate in the UK but it is designed for those who play Ultimate. The new site contains: Results (All results for the year 2000) News Articles that have been published in the press A page for each team (which you can add to) A team locator A diary (ultimate only, no golf or guts etc.) A tournament resources page (ginving weather info. where to get maps etc.) A chat room (probably best to arrange to chat with someone at specific time until it gets busier) A links page (for every uk related ultimate web site (hopfully!)) The new site can be seen at: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~all7/ If you have anything to add please don't hesitate to contact me. Comments and suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks for your time, Alex PS It will be update regularly --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 21:22:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA27947 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:20:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27935 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:20:50 GMT Received: from addb. ([202.103.134.105]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA13360 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:20:44 GMT Received: from cdsvbhd.inc1.com by addb. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id FAA16560; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 05:14:29 +0800 From: nancy77@freemailforall.com To: bygeorge@cswnet.com Subject: Re: Your Candidancy and Recognition -ftclmk Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:00:36 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Candidate, You were recently selected by The Office of the Managing Director for a free listing on The International Executive Guild's Who's Who. Our Researchers gather information from many recognized sources, including professional associations and societies, trade organizations, newspaper and magazine articles, professional reference publications, web presence, and referrals from existing members. As a highly respected professional in your field of expertise, we believe your contributions merit very serious consideration for inclusion on The International Executive Guild's Who's Who. To maintain the level of accuracy, we ask you to click on the web address highlighted below and fill out the brief bit of information required for inclusion. There is no cost or obligation to be listed on The International Executive Guild's Who's Who. For registration, please visit: http://doghousepages.lycos.com/businesses/getfound/ My Sincere Thanks, Lorraine A. Michaels Office Of Managing Director ======================================= All remove requests honored!! Just double-click mailto:remm23@bigfoot.com?subject=REMOVE The International Executive Guild is not affiliated or associated with Marquis Who's Who. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 21:30:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA00136 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:30:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00128 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:30:25 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03177 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:30:16 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-059.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.189]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04942 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:41:06 GMT Message-ID: <00a601bf8d34$15325860$bda492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" References: <01BF8D1F.6841AB60.all7@aber.ac.uk> Subject: Re: UK Ultimate Website Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:28:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, In the interests of representing ultimate in a coherent fashion on the Internet can you please tell us before you produce websites of a national nature. This isn't an order from 'on high' - we can't stop you creating websites! - it just makes sense to avoid duplicating effort and avoid confusing web surfers. FYI, we are currently working on a super-duper new site with players from many teams contributing their expertise. We hope to include a free ISP service plus online membership payment for players. We would welcome contributions from anybody with web skills. If you want to be involved please join our listbot:- britultweb-subscribe@listbot.com Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Livingstone To: 'Britdisc' ; 'Student Ultimate' Sent: 13 March 2000 19:07 Subject: UK Ultimate Website > Dear all, > > I have developed a new website all about Ultimate in the UK but it is designed for those who play Ultimate. > > The new site contains: > > Results (All results for the year 2000) > News > Articles that have been published in the press > A page for each team (which you can add to) > A team locator > A diary (ultimate only, no golf or guts etc.) > A tournament resources page (ginving weather info. where to get maps etc.) > A chat room (probably best to arrange to chat with someone at specific time until it gets busier) > A links page (for every uk related ultimate web site (hopfully!)) > > The new site can be seen at: > > http://www.aber.ac.uk/~all7/ > > If you have anything to add please don't hesitate to contact me. > Comments and suggestion would be appreciated. > > Thanks for your time, > > Alex > > PS It will be update regularly > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Alex Livingstone > President of Mwnci See > University of Wales, Aberystwyth > Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk > --------------------------------------------------------- > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 22:41:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA15770 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:40:42 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15756 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:40:39 GMT Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19545 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:40:39 GMT Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12UdVP-0004uF-00; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:40:07 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:41:26 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8D3D.43DC5D60.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'Student Ultimate'" , "'Britdisc'" Subject: Web Site Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:41:25 -0000 Organization: MwnciSee X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk After consulting with Ben Ravilious (secretary of the BUF) it came to my intention that certain aspects of my site may interfere with the work of the BUF. After talking to Ben we decided that I should delete the team pages and the diary pages. I have now done this and would just like to apologise for any inconvenience caused, the site will still be updated with news and results but will not contain contact details or a diary page. Sorry to waste people's time. Alex --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 13 23:50:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA28583 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:49:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28568 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:49:35 GMT Received: from web3705.mail.yahoo.com (web3705.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA22344 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:49:34 GMT Message-ID: <20000313234903.27578.qmail@web3705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.82.103.42] by web3705.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:49:03 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:49:03 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: Holiday play around SW London To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Ultimate players, I sent out a message a couple of weeks ago to see if here was any interest for a couple of informal practices in the Twickenham area. I have had a few interested people, but probably not enough to establish something properly. The way I see it at the moment is that I will probably send out a message onto BD when we can sort out somewhere, and sometime to play. Then people can just turn up. If not enough people arrive then we can go to a pub some where for some water (as we are all sportsmen/women!!). However, if you are interested and received the first message but didn't get around to responding, or are new to BD then send me a note back, and I may be able to do somethng a little longer lasting/established. Wish everyone the best of luck, wherever you are playing this weekend. Joe Graves. Zésinho, Northern Lights PS Lizzie Bourne or Jonathan Schofield, if you get this I would love to have your email addresses. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 00:10:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA03148 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:09:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03128 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:09:42 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23412 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:09:42 GMT Received: from host213-1-36-241.host.btclick.com ([213.1.36.241]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000314000641.CWCD10941.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host213-1-36-241.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:06:41 +0000 Received: by host213-1-36-241.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF8D49.AC1D65C0@host213-1-36-241.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:10:14 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8D49.AC1D65C0@host213-1-36-241.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Indoor Nationals Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:09:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id AAA03130 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Entry for indoor nationals has been confirmed and all teams have now entered. All those people who keep emailing me about wild card slots can now stop. The teams that qualified are; Scotland; 1. Mud Culture 2. 3 Frogs 3. Top Shelf Sleaze Midlands; 1. Druids OAP's 2. Mexican Horse Bandits 3. Chevron AF 4. Baboom 5. Bears 1 South East; 1. Strange Blue 2. Angels 3. Mohawks South West; 1. Blue Arse Flies 2. I'll Have A D, Please Bob! 3. CUL8TRS (Skunks 1) 4. Nightfever 5. Picnic (Hosts) The teams were seeded based on the strength of the regions, with each regional winner placed top seeds in their pool, with a second place, and a third placed team. The final place for each pool was filled by the remaining teams. This gives four pools of; Pool A Pool B Pool C Pool D 1. SW1 2. M1 3. SC1 4. SE1 7. SC2 8. SE2 5. T2 6. P2 10. SE3 9. SC3 12. P3 11. T3 16. M4 15. P4 14. T5 13. SW5 [Please note, these pools are base on the tournament then being based on two knockouts of 8 teams. Should more time and space become available in the Halls, the schedule may change, and therefore so may the pools, but the seeding should remain constant - This is not yet finalised] Details will go out to teams soon. Kerry ahs been informed of those teams most deserving of accommodation, ie Student teams, and those travelling long distance, but if you need accommodation, please let me know. Be aware that space is limited. Thank you. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 10:28:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA05385 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:25:10 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05369 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:25:08 GMT Received: from mailhost ([195.226.55.115]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA19159 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:25:06 GMT Received: from pc124.videosystem.co.uk (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:24:36 +0000 Received: by pc124.videosystem.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BF8D9E.E03B6000@pc124.videosystem.co.uk>; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:20:09 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8D9E.E03B6000@pc124.videosystem.co.uk> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Indoor Nationals Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:20:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA05372 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Pool A Pool B Pool C Pool D >1. SW1 2. M1 3. SC1 4. SE1 >7. SC2 8. SE2 5. T2 6. P2 >10. SE3 9. SC3 12. P3 11. T3 >16. M4 15. P4 14. T5 13. SW5 I assume that T2, T3 and T5 should read M2, M3 and M5; and P2, P3, P4 should be SW2, SW3, SW4. Or have I made more of a cock up than Chris? Or to put it more simply... Pool A - BAF, 3 Frogs, Mohawks, Baboom Pool B - Druids, Angels, Top Shelf Sleaze, Night Fever Pool C - Mud Culture, Mexican Horse Bandits, CUL8RS, Bears Pool D - Strange Blue, D Bob, Chevron, Picnic Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | If everyone who loves their job shouldn't ask a fee | Then everyone who hates their job should get the wage of three. |--- | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | email me, and I'll tell you how. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 11:46:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA02989 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:44:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02963 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:43:59 GMT Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29001 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:43:59 GMT Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12UpjL-00051w-00; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:43:19 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:44:37 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8DAA.ACFBC0C0.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'Britdisc'" , "'Student Ultimate'" Subject: Web Site Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:44:36 -0000 Organization: MwnciSee X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thank you for the positive feedback for my website. There are very good reasons not to duplicate BUF material which I discussed with Ben Ravilious. But the positive feedback I have got makes it much easier for me to continue adding to the site. Within the next couple of days I hope to add a virtual lost property office and a lifts page (for people offering and wanting lifts to tournaments) in the hope that this will help unclog Britdisc from those kind of messages! Please keep looking. Thanks, Alex --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 11:51:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA06168 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:51:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06122; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:51:01 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (psuth@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02090; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:51:00 GMT Received: from localhost (psuth@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01575; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:50:58 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: psuth owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:50:56 +0000 (GMT) From: ed To: Miss S Kirwan cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Warwick party award In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Miss S Kirwan wrote: >Both the spirit and party awards were closely contested with over half the >teams getting a spirit vote, showing the spirit held by all teams over the >weekend. Teams in contention for the party award included Whiplash, Bears >2 and Blue Arse Flies, but in the end it came down to a difficult decision >between Janitors and Substance Abuse. It was eventually decided that >Substance Abuse should take the title. substance abuse edged out janitors on the strength of: nick snogging chris hughes, "tastefully" redecorating the pre-party pub, their ability to take a beating, and their penchant for absinthe. however, if their position was in any doubt before it was wholly justified when yesterday i found my pants in the freezer. cheers guys! love ed -- ed shardlow bears From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 12:47:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA25060 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:45:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25046 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:45:21 GMT Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09077 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:45:15 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (SRV1.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.68]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15381 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:45:13 GMT Message-Id: <200003141245.MAA15381@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Received: from MECH-SRV1/SpoolDir by srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 14 Mar 00 12:45:13 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by MECH-SRV1 (Mercury 1.44); 14 Mar 00 12:45:00 +0000 From: "Timothy Rogers" Organization: Mechanical Engineering To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:44:50 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Stoping another years loss of players X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bearing in mind that are only a couple of months left before a fresh set of students graduate, what are the BUFs plans for registering where players will be living next year to help the formation of new teams, and to facilitate the absorption of players into existing teams? Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 14:34:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA07765 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:31:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07727 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:31:47 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29594 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:31:44 GMT Received: from ben (pool2-pri1-022.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.152]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02150 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:43:29 GMT Message-ID: <00f701bf8dc2$cfe92c40$98a492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" References: <200003141245.MAA15381@haymarket.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Stoping another years loss of players Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:28:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Plans: 1. Membership database of all association players. (essential if the association goes ahead) 2. Website where players (members and non-members alike) can publicise their whereabouts. (not difficult if you already have 1.). NB: data privacy will be respected. 3. Online rostering of all Tour/Nationals/Indoors teams. (will be ready for this years Tour) Anybody have any further suggestions? (NB usual disclaimer: be prepared to help out) Ben BUF Secretary ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Rogers To: Sent: 14 March 2000 12:44 Subject: Stoping another years loss of players > Bearing in mind that are only a couple of months left before a fresh > set of students graduate, what are the BUFs plans for registering > where players will be living next year to help the formation of new > teams, and to facilitate the absorption of players into existing > teams? > > Tim > Ro-Sham-Bo > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 14 17:10:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA10989 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:08:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10965 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:08:41 GMT Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29488 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:08:40 GMT Received: from east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (east-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.6]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27728 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:08:39 GMT Message-Id: <200003141708.RAA27728@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H15/SpoolDir by east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 14 Mar 00 17:09:03 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H15 (Mercury 1.47); 14 Mar 00 17:08:42 GMT From: "Silk" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:08:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Bradford Tournament X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can somone from Bradford please contact me with regard to me wanting to enter a team for their indoor tournament on the 8th and 9th of April please. Cheers Silk StrangewaysXF6 _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 10:18:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA26866 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:14:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26831 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:14:15 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07339 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:14:14 GMT Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:07:58 +0000 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:12:22 -0000 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E592@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Britdisc'" , "'Kevin Lowe'" Subject: RE: Indoor Nationals Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:12:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes - Kev is right and I got confused half way. Sorry, Chris T is towcester and is the same as M for Midlands SW is South West, which is also P for Plymouth > ---------- > From: Kevin Lowe[SMTP:Kev@videosystem.co.uk] > Sent: 14 March 2000 10:20 > To: 'Britdisc' > Subject: RE: Indoor Nationals > > > >Pool A Pool B Pool C Pool D > >1. SW1 2. M1 3. SC1 4. SE1 > >7. SC2 8. SE2 5. T2 6. P2 > >10. SE3 9. SC3 12. P3 11. T3 > >16. M4 15. P4 14. T5 13. SW5 > > I assume that T2, T3 and T5 should read M2, M3 and M5; and P2, P3, P4 > should be SW2, SW3, SW4. Or have I made more of a cock up than Chris? > > Or to put it more simply... > > Pool A - BAF, 3 Frogs, Mohawks, Baboom > Pool B - Druids, Angels, Top Shelf Sleaze, Night Fever > Pool C - Mud Culture, Mexican Horse Bandits, CUL8RS, Bears > Pool D - Strange Blue, D Bob, Chevron, Picnic > > Kevin. > -- > | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 > | If everyone who loves their job shouldn't ask a fee > | Then everyone who hates their job should get the wage of three. > |--- > | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and > | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you > | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, > | email me, and I'll tell you how. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 11:14:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA17770 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:11:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17760 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:11:50 GMT Received: from crane2.cf.ac.uk (crane2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12852 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:11:44 GMT Received: from maincf1r.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.100]) by crane2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12VBhp-0004Py-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:11:13 +0000 Received: from MAINCF1R/SpoolDir by MAINCF1R.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.46); 15 Mar 00 11:11:13 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by MAINCF1R (Mercury 1.46); 15 Mar 00 11:11:03 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:11:01 GMT0BST Subject: Tour pick up Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are there any teams out there (maybe one of you ladies teams?!) who would like to pick up a player for the tour. If so could you please let me know as there is a girl in our club who would really appreciate playing in the tour. She is already very good but only started playing in September so has very little outdoor experience. Organics might know her as she played at Warwick (in Cardiff Angels)and she mentioned that she'd really like to play with you guys. Si. simple Cardiff Uni. No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 12:26:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA12860 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:21:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12687 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:21:32 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk [139.166.136.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19793 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:21:31 GMT Received: from socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk by socnet.soc.soton.ac.uk (8.9.1a/NERC-1.6(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id MAA21557; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:20:59 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000315122506.00844e00@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk> X-Sender: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 12:25:06 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jeff Jackson Subject: GB mixed team selection for Worlds 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Following the GB practice this weekend, the initial selection for the GB Mixed squad for this year's Worlds has been made. The final team will be made up of 18 players (9 female and 9 male). The selections are divided into two groups - those who have made the team now, and those who have been invited back to try out for the remaining places. So, here are the lists: Already in: Paul Atkins Jack Goulden Lucy Byrne Dave Grayson Merrick Cardew Jane Holmes Kate Chillcott Jeff Jackson Sarah Davidson Rob Mitchell Lucy Goggin Dave Trovell Invited back to try out for the remaining places: Harry Golby Suzanne Penfold Will Halliday Sara Polkinghorne Nadya Hewitson Wayne Retter James Houghton Sally Riggs Ben Mitchell Sue Underwood Catherine Moore Jo Volkes Sam Neilson Karen Wijns Congratulations to those I've listed above, and my commiserations to those who've missed out - the standard of players was very high, and the final decisions were very hard to make. Thanks to everyone who's participated in the training sessions so far, and I hope we can go on from here to create a great GB mixed team for this summer's Worlds! Cheers, Jeff. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Jackson Email: jfej@mail.soc.soton.ac.uk Tel: 02380 596498 School of Ocean and Earth Sciences Fax: 02380 593052 Southampton Oceanography Centre, European Way, Southampton SO14 3ZH ------------------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 13:40:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA11172 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:37:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11151 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:37:45 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29112 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:37:37 GMT Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12VDzQ-0004fP-01; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:37:32 +0000 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 15 Mar 00 13:37:30 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 15 Mar 00 13:37:18 +0000 From: "Pete Coy" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 13:37:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoor finlas X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Invites for student outdoors finals have gone in the post today so expect them soon. Pete Coy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 14:25:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA25621 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:58 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25595 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:55 GMT Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23722 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:49 GMT Received: from kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05231; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:44 GMT Received: from jb2.lib.brad.ac.uk (bmwhenlo@lib0foyjb2.lib.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.170]) by kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02089; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:44 GMT From: Benjamin Michael Whenlock Reply-To: b.m.whenlock'brad.ac.uk@Bradford.ac.uk To: "'Britdisc'" , "'Student Ultimate'" Subject: Bradford Tournament Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:22:41 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA25596 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello there ultimate lovers, The deadline approaches for replies for the indoor tournament at Bradford. Teams that still have not responded are: Chevron action Flash Ro-sham-bo Far Flung Zebedee PDQ Please can the teams e-mail me by tomorrow the 15th so we can get the disc flying or so to speak. We are currently looking for two or more teams to fill two definite vacant spots and more if the above teams do not respond. So if you have a team that is not going to Dublin and wants to play a bit of indoor ultimate over the Easter vacation (sat 8th and sun 9th of April) Then contact me at b.m.whenlock@brad.ac.uk The cost of the tournament is £60 per team. We hope to make it a fantastic weekend with the main idea being FUN!!! We hope to offer a team assault course challenge on the Saturday as well as cool party (3 pint challenges possible a live band and hopefully a sit down meal that will leave you stuffed) If this idea appeals to you and your team then contact me ASAP as from the 15th of March it is a first come first served basis. All the best Ben --------------------------------- Benjamin Michael Whenlock B.M.Whenlock@bradford.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 15:36:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA19590 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:33:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19572 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:33:26 GMT Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk (bob.dera.gov.uk [192.5.29.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04520 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:33:24 GMT Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id PAA00647; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:35:30 GMT Received: (qmail 31229 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2000 16:29:38 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 15 Mar 2000 16:29:38 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id PAA21505; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:25:00 GMT Received: from unknown(146.80.11.40) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma021291; Wed, 15 Mar 00 15:24:43 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:58:45 +0000 Received: by FRN-GOLD-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:23 -0000 Message-Id: From: Webber Neil To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" , "'student-ultimate@egroups.com'" Subject: Video? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:55:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I remember someone pointing a camcorder at the final of the Student Outdoors last year. It might have been Mohawks but I wouldn't swear to it. If you know of the video's whereabouts I would really love to get my hands on a copy. (I might even pay...should get the students moving ;-) Cheers Bruce Point Blank PS Replies to me please, I don't get to check Britdisc that often. -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 16:53:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA16425 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:52:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16410 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:52:16 GMT Received: from ns1.swh.sk (ns1.swh.sk [192.108.125.33]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16780 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 16:52:10 GMT Received: from hermes.swh.sk (hermes [195.41.64.129]) by ns1.swh.sk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08948 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:51:35 +0100 Received: from space.swh.sk (spectrum-gw.swh.sk [195.42.87.65]) by hermes.swh.sk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA11347 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:51:31 +0100 (MET) Received: from pictor.swh.sk (pictor [195.41.65.51]) by space.swh.sk (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08446 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:51:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from swh.sk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pictor.swh.sk (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01065 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:51:24 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38CFBF8C.30534E2D@swh.sk> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:51:24 +0100 From: Juraj Oravsky Organization: SWH spol. s r.o. Bratislava X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en, sk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: [Fwd: Worlds 99 finals video?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hallo boys and girls, anyone can help with this ????? I would love to have a copy too. may be I see myself then / in the crowd ;-)) of course / -Duro Norbert Geyer wrote: (NorbertGeyer@csi.com) > > Hi everybody! > > As many people mailed to my adress for the info about the opportunity to buy > the worlds 99 finals > video after I was asking everybody here in Eurodisc (a couple of weeks ago) > I let you know now that nobody gave me an answer or a link or whatever in > this matter until today. > > This is one more try to get this info. PLEASE! If there is anybody in the > U.K. who knows that please mail to Eurodisc! > Thanks > > Norbert Geyer > (thebigez, Vienna) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 17:09:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA20581 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:08:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20568 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:08:21 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA18375 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:08:21 GMT Received: from [195.92.122.225] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000230446; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:12:49 +0000 Message-ID: <38CFC383.60E984D5@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:14:23 +0000 From: Jim Jam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juraj Oravsky CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Fwd: Worlds 99 finals video?] References: <38CFBF8C.30534E2D@swh.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can't help you out with a video, but remebemer you can always head over to http://fly.to.the-disc for a huge bunch of photos of pictures from WUCC99 inc the final. Bes* Jes* Juraj Oravsky wrote: > hallo boys and girls, > > anyone can help with this ????? > > I would love to have a copy too. > > may be I see myself then / in the crowd ;-)) of course / > > -Duro > > Norbert Geyer wrote: (NorbertGeyer@csi.com) > > > > Hi everybody! > > > > As many people mailed to my adress for the info about the opportunity to buy > > the worlds 99 finals > > video after I was asking everybody here in Eurodisc (a couple of weeks ago) > > I let you know now that nobody gave me an answer or a link or whatever in > > this matter until today. > > > > This is one more try to get this info. PLEASE! If there is anybody in the > > U.K. who knows that please mail to Eurodisc! > > Thanks > > > > Norbert Geyer > > (thebigez, Vienna) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 15 17:25:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA25529 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:24:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25508 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:24:50 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA24966 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:24:49 GMT Received: from [195.92.122.225] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000230518; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:29:17 +0000 Message-ID: <38CFC75F.F9A7A2DD@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:30:53 +0000 From: Jim Jam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juraj Oravsky CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Fwd: Worlds 99 finals video?] References: <38CFBF8C.30534E2D@swh.sk> <38CFC383.60E984D5@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Arse! Of course what I really meant was http://fly.to/the-disc Sorry Jes* Jester wrote: > Can't help you out with a video, but remebemer you can always head over to > http://fly.to.the-disc for a huge bunch of photos of pictures from WUCC99 inc the > final. > > Bes* > Jes* > > Juraj Oravsky wrote: > > > hallo boys and girls, > > > > anyone can help with this ????? > > > > I would love to have a copy too. > > > > may be I see myself then / in the crowd ;-)) of course / > > > > -Duro > > > > Norbert Geyer wrote: (NorbertGeyer@csi.com) > > > > > > Hi everybody! > > > > > > As many people mailed to my adress for the info about the opportunity to buy > > > the worlds 99 finals > > > video after I was asking everybody here in Eurodisc (a couple of weeks ago) > > > I let you know now that nobody gave me an answer or a link or whatever in > > > this matter until today. > > > > > > This is one more try to get this info. PLEASE! If there is anybody in the > > > U.K. who knows that please mail to Eurodisc! > > > Thanks > > > > > > Norbert Geyer > > > (thebigez, Vienna) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 16 01:58:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA15385 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:56:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15374 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:56:56 GMT Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25186 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:56:55 GMT Received: from modem-99.longnose-hawk.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.38.99] helo=hal9000) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12VPWw-00052b-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:56:55 +0000 Message-ID: <003d01bf8ee9$9d42fb40$6326893e@hal9000> From: "Benjamin Crick" To: Subject: Come Play the Mohawks Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 01:47:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01BF8EE9.9C366D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BF8EE9.9C366D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ultimate lovers I would just like to invite any team that is interested, to come down to = Brighton to play a friendly game against us after the Easter Holidays. = We offer a full size pitch (marked out!) and all the Brighton Student = hospitality you can suffer. I'm asking on britdisc because we have been = let down by both the Bears and Imperial at the last moment so if you = think you are a team that can stick with a plan then please get in = contact. If you are interested we may even be able to come and visit = you. We are desperaltely looking for games as there seems to be a = drought of playing recently. Hope to hear from you all soon. Ben Crick Captain Mohawks Tel 01273 241145 or 07867785411 The Flat Milligan House Porthall Ave=20 Brighton BN! 5PL bencrick@bcrick.freeserve.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BF8EE9.9C366D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ultimate lovers
 
I would just like to invite any team that is = interested, to=20 come down to Brighton to play a friendly game against us after the = Easter=20 Holidays. We offer a full size pitch (marked out!) and all the Brighton = Student=20 hospitality you can suffer. I'm asking on britdisc because we have been = let down=20 by both the Bears and Imperial at the last moment so if you think you = are a team=20 that can stick with a plan then please get in contact. If you are=20 interested we may even be able to come and visit you. We are = desperaltely=20 looking for games as there seems to be a drought of playing recently. = Hope to=20 hear from you all soon.
 
Ben Crick
Captain
Mohawks
 
Tel 01273 241145 or 07867785411
The Flat Milligan House
Porthall Ave
Brighton
BN! 5PL
 
bencrick@bcrick.freeserve= .co.uk
 
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BF8EE9.9C366D40-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 16 14:18:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA13071 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:14:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13059 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:14:42 GMT Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.16.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05840 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:14:41 GMT Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12Vb0H-0002Ng-00; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:11:57 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:13:27 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF8F51.CC3DFA40.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'Britdisc'" , "'Student Ultimate'" Subject: UK Ultimate website Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:13:25 -0000 Organization: MwnciSee X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have just added two new message boards, one for lost property and one for people offering or requesting lifts to tournaments. Instead of filling up space on Britdisc, try posting a message on the site instead. The message boards are fully searchable so if someone posts a message saying they have a nike jumper left at a tournament and you search for 'nike' of 'jumper' you should be able to find it fairly easily. Here's the URL again: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~all7/ Thanks, Alex PS. Please don't put rubbish on these boards, they are for your benefit. :o) --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 16 16:18:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA29683 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:16:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29664 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:16:47 GMT Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08527 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:16:45 GMT Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA18395 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: <38D0FC0D.49DB99B9@paganello.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:21:49 +0100 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc Subject: Everything you always wanted to know about Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk all the teams attending Paganello , but were afraid to ask! Just check out the section Paga2000 of the web site: updated general info about the event plus short descriptions of all the teams (just click on "teams"). Take care! _Jumpi the Beach Ultimate Experience is at: http://www.paganello.com "Peace of mind seems to be out of sight? Paganello2000: play all day and dance all night! Let it all hang out!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 16 20:54:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA10938 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:52:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10926 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:52:33 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe6.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.110]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA23290 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:52:32 GMT Received: (qmail 33026 invoked by uid 65534); 16 Mar 2000 20:52:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000316205201.33025.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [213.1.38.230] From: "Dave Hillier" To: Subject: Exeter Hat Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 20:46:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF8F88.B3F89440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF8F88.B3F89440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uriel are currently in the early stages of organising this years Exeter = Hat. So far we know it will (probably) be on the weekend of 17th June. = <<<<<<< depending on exams, if anyone knows a better date let us know If you are interested please email me at: exeter_hat@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF8F88.B3F89440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Uriel are currently in the early stages of = organising this=20 years Exeter Hat. So far we know it will (probably) be on the weekend of = 17th=20 June.  <<<<<<< depending on exams, if anyone = knows a=20 better date let us know
 
 
 
If you are interested please email me = at:
 
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF8F88.B3F89440-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 17 07:19:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA15828 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:18:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15823 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:18:12 GMT Received: from smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net (smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net [212.1.128.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23298 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:18:06 GMT Received: from ppp-12a-55.3com.telinco.net ([212.159.150.55] helo=bonkers) by smarthost-1.mail.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.02 #7) id 12Vr1J-000ESC-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:18:05 +0000 From: "steve henderson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: North East England Ultimate Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 07:27:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Myself and a couple of others are trying to find players in and around Newcastle for practices and hopefully to start a team. We are also looking at starting teams in the Newcastle and Sunderland universities. If there is anyone there who has played before, who wants to play, or who knows of other frustrated North East players, if they could please get in touch with me. (I sent this message out before christmas. If you repied with information back then, I would appreciate it if you could mail me again to show that the information is up to date) e-mail stevenhenderson@currantbun.com Thanks in advance Steve Henderson From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 17 13:51:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA01349 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:47:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01329 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:47:28 GMT Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.13] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15052 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:47:27 GMT Received: from kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23889; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:47:25 GMT Received: from cc60.pub.brad.ac.uk (bmwhenlo@cc0144cc60.pub.brad.ac.uk [143.53.7.66]) by kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01168; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:47:11 GMT From: Benjamin Michael Whenlock To: "'Student Ultimate'" , "Britdisc'" Subject: Room for a little on Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:47:19 +0000 () X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA01330 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Bradford tournament is nearly full we do have space though for one more team if anyone out there is interseted please email me... 8th and 9th of April cost £60 Indoor All the best Ben --------------------------------- Benjamin Michael Whenlock B.M.Whenlock@bradford.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 19 18:02:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA08136 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:59:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08129 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:59:33 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe48.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.216]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17960 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:59:32 GMT Received: (qmail 74618 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Mar 2000 17:59:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20000319175900.74617.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [62.7.131.192] From: "Dave Hillier" To: Cc: Subject: Exeter Hat Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 17:53:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF91CC.034877A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF91CC.034877A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just confirming that the Exeter hat is definitely on the weekend of = 17th, 18th June @ Duckes meadows, Exeter All going to plan we will have lots of cool red bull stuff, including = discoveries with big speakers on the side with DJ, red bull tent and = lots of free redbull, a food and beer tent, big barbecue and lots more = beer. accomodation, as most of you will know, is by camping (just to add to = the fun) the campsite is right next to a very nice pub where hopefully = we will be allowed a big bonfire to all get very drunk around. And also the location is very close to the beach!!!!! so far we have had quite a bit of interest, and it is looking to be a = very good weekend. If you are interested please let me know at:- hillier40@hotmail.com cheers Dave Uriel ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF91CC.034877A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just confirming that the Exeter hat is definitely on the weekend of = 17th,=20 18th June @ Duckes meadows, Exeter
 
All going to plan we will have lots of cool red bull stuff, = including=20 discoveries with big speakers on the side with DJ, red bull tent and = lots of=20 free redbull, a food and beer tent, big barbecue and lots more = beer.
accomodation, as most of you will know, is by camping (just to = add to=20 the fun) the campsite is right next to a very nice pub where = hopefully we=20 will be allowed a big bonfire to all get very drunk around.
 
And also the location is very close to the beach!!!!!
 
so far we have had quite a bit of interest, and it is looking to be = a very=20 good weekend.
 
If you are interested please let me know at:-
 
 
cheers
 
Dave
Uriel
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF91CC.034877A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 20 07:53:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA07650 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:47:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07643 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@[137.205.227.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11047 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:47:02 GMT Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA23940 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:47:01 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 07:47:01 GMT From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200003200747.HAA23940@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 25th March 2000 Indoor Nationals (2 days) @ Mayflower Centre, Plymouth [Indoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 18 March). Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://axiom-emg.net/pookas Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 20 10:17:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA02165 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:16:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02155 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:16:08 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA22133 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:16:06 GMT Received: from cs0606.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.65.16] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 12WzDI-0007c2-00; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:15:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 10:16:00 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk (Natalie visser) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: questionaire X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: hdue1@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I am doing research on Ultimate and I need some males and females to answer the following questionaire. Thanks for your help. Natalie ULTIMATE FRISBEE: A NEW SPORT > Where is it going? > > > > ABOUT YOU: > > 1. Name: > 2. Age: > 3. Sex: > 4. Occupation: > 5. Team: > 6. How long you have been playing? > > 7. How did you find about Ultimate? > > 8. Have you done other sports before? If YES: What? and > do you still practice them? > > 9. What are the reasons for you to play Ultimate? What do you like > about it? > > > ABOUT THE SPORT: > > 10. Is Frisbee a competitive sport? Why? > > 11. Do you like or dislike that? If you have done other sport, how competitive is Ultimate compared to other sports? > > 12. Out of 100%, what percentage of the game would you say its purely: > a. Physical = > b. Mental = > c. technical/skill = > d. add if necessary = > > 13. Do you play Male/female/Coed? How did that come about? > > 14. What do you prefer? > > > OBSTACLES AND OPPORTUNITIES: > > 15. How often do you play? (days, hours per week) > > 16. How much more or less time would you like to spend? > what stops you from doing it? > > 17. Have you ever stopped playing? Why? For how long? > > 18. How would you 'sell' the game to new players? What would you say? > > 19. What do you think makes an ideal frisbee player? (list attributes) > > 20. From the list above, what do you think its most difficult to > aquire? > > 21. What do you understand by 'the spirit of the game'? > > 22. Has that been your experience? > > 23. What would improve the game for you? > > > ABOUT THE FUTURE: > > 24. Do you think the sport has reached the point where men and women's games should be played separately? If so, why? > > 25. Where do you think the sport will be in the next 5-10 years? > > 26. Where would you like to be in the next 5-10 years? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 20 11:32:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA18472 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:29:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18398 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:29:18 GMT Received: from web3701.mail.yahoo.com (web3701.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.130]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14894 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:29:12 GMT Message-ID: <20000320112837.29266.qmail@web3701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.117.149.96] by web3701.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:28:37 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:28:37 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: Student Regionals To: londonleague@oneline.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there anyone out there who lives in or around London, and is planning to go to the Regionals on the 1st and 2nd? I am playing with TFC (the North) but as I will be London because term has finished, I need a lift to Leicester. If the London or the SE team have any spaces, could they let me know, Thanks, Joe Graves AKA Zésinho, Northern Lights or Socks, TFC ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 20 13:06:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA13015 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:04:08 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13002 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:04:05 GMT Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14684 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:04:03 GMT Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:01:07 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:00:59 +0000 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Bradford Indoors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA13004 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to bother the list with this, but can whoever is organising the Bradford Indoors please get in touch with me. You can reach me at this address (before 4.30pm) or at Matthew.Lowe@dtn.ntl.com (after 4.30pm). We may be interested in entering our team into this event if any places are left. Thanks, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 20 14:07:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA28199 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:05:59 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28179 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:05:54 GMT Received: from bsd01.community.net.uk (bsd01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22413 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:05:47 GMT Received: from alpha01.community.net.uk (alpha01.community.net.uk [195.72.161.16]) by bsd01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA87422 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:05:43 GMT Received: from server.oxtutor.co.uk (oxtutor.community.co.uk [195.72.164.109]) by alpha01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA10238 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:05:42 GMT Received: by server.oxtutor.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BF9269.2B627F40@server.oxtutor.co.uk>; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:38:18 -0000 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Hope To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Ultipics - New Photo Web Site Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:38:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Barry O'Kane and Jon Hope have put together a new web site of hot ultimate pics - some old Ultimatum favourites plus some new stuff from WUCC '99; and a cracker of Guy Bowles and Harry Golby in action from last year's UTI vs Chevvy National Final. You can send virtual postcards for free, or get hold of top quality repros by using the order form on the site, which will be updated every couple of months with new pics. Check "Ultipics" out at www.endzone.co.uk/ultipics From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 01:34:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA07401 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:32:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07394 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:32:38 GMT Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (mta@smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10974 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:32:36 GMT Received: from ultilinks.com ([204.210.5.243]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:32:34 -0800 Message-ID: <38D820C8.2D7A3A39@ultilinks.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:24:24 -0800 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] Ultimate Pictures Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi. Do you have a page full of pictures of a certain tournament? Well, now you can advertise it on Ultilinks. Go to http://www.ultilinks.com/, in the Party! section, and add your page to the list. It takes less than a minute. Keep 'em spinning, Peldi PS.Hat's off to Sprocket for the idea! http://www.wallcity.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 09:42:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA28524 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28510 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:22 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29159 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:21 GMT Received: from [212.140.70.188] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12Xhct-0007iQ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:31 +0000 Message-ID: <004d01bf93e2$e95336a0$bc468cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: need hosts for Mixed tournaments Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:35:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all- The details about the Mixed Series 200 are out, and now we need people to actually hold the tournaments. These will be smaller tournaments, so you only need 8 pitches. Perks are good (like food and St. John's cover) but not essential. Camping or cheap/free accomodation would be helpful. I need at least three events and a Nationals- here are the dates: May 27-28 June 3-4 July 22-23 July 29-30 August 19-20 August 26-27 and for Nationals September 9-10 September 16-17 September 30-October 1 As you can see, these are summer dates- so think sunshine and warmth!!! If you are interested in promoting Mixed Ultimate and making a little cash by hosting a tournament on one of these dates, please get back to me. I need your help to make this new series of tournaments actually happen. Nancy Stebbing From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 09:42:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA28525 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28513 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:22 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29151 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:17 GMT Received: from [212.140.70.188] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12Xhcq-0007iQ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:40:28 +0000 Message-ID: <004c01bf93e2$e7759d00$bc468cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed Ultimate Series 2000 (long) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:28:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK- only 4 months late, here are the details for the Mixed (co-ed) Series and Mixed Nationals. No dates have been set yet, I'm currently looking for tournament hosts, but here are the details of how it would work. It's vaguely similar to the Tour, but with less hassle, and half the testosterone. If you are one of the teams that feels excluded from the Tour- I hope you'll consider playing these events. There is no penalty for missing an event, and every team has a shot (in theory, anyway) of winning every tournament. nancy BUF/BUA Mixed Ultimate Series 2000 Purpose and Goals 1. To encourage the growth of the Ultimate player base. The system is based around 'loosely' regional teams, with the dual aim of moving to a regional team system and, more importantly, to encourage existing players to recruit new players in their area. Although there are legitimate arguments against regionality, experience in the US and Canada shows that enforcing a regional system DOES promote the growth of the active player base. Additionally, a regional system will aid the development of local practice sessions, raising the skill levels and quality of play for all Ultimate players. Regional systems also promote rostering which can facilitate the tracking of players as they change addresses or move to other levels of the sport. (Roster information also allows publicity and information sharing outside of electronic communication.) This information is vital if Ultimate is ever to gain government recognition and funding. The Mixed series will be using a database (in co-operation with BUF, if possible) to track players. 2. To encourage the play of mixed Ultimate. The current offering of Ultimate events discourages mixed play by pitting mixed teams against open teams. By offering explicitly mixed events, teams and players who wish to play in the mixed format can do so on a level playing field, competing against other mixed teams. 3. To provide a mixed tournament circuit and a structure for a Mixed Nationals. It is often difficult and a financial risk for individuals or teams to organise a tournament without BUF sanction or support. By creating an 'official' series, more teams will organise tournaments (outside of the Ultim8 Tour) due to reduced risk of low attendance and financial loss. 4. To provide a larger player base for the selection of a national mixed squad. Mixed ultimate has strategies and playing styles specific to the game. By encouraging more players to play mixed more often, national selectors will have a greater range of players to choose from, many with advanced skills specific to the mixed game. The Mixed Series, Mixed Nationals, and Nationals Qualifying Points For the Mixed series, Mixed Ultimate will be played by WFDF rules. This means that there is a 4/3 gender split on the pitch, with the team going on Offence (the team receiving the pull) deciding whether it will be 4 men or 4 women on the pitch. The defensive team must match their gender split to that of the offensive team. The Mixed series will consist of three or four two-day, national events. All events will have an 'open' format, meaning that any team entering can win the event. (This is a change from the Ultim8 Tour, where previous performance can prevent a team from winning an event.) All events will be publicised on Britdisc and using other means as available. All events will be open to any rostered mixed team. Rosters will be collected at all series events; rostering rules are detailed below. Each event will contribute to qualification for the Mixed Nationals. In a manner similar to the Ultim8 Tour, points will be acquired at each event. To qualify for Mixed Nationals, a team must have a minimum of 20 points, ten of which must have been earned at a Mixed Series event. (Ways of earning points is further detailed below.) Unlike the Ultim8 Tour, a team earns 10 points for simply attending a Mixed Series event. Many teams will be able to acquire all the necessary points for qualification for Mixed Nationals at a single event. Seeding for Mixed Nationals will be on the basis of points acquired. If it becomes necessary to exclude teams from the Mixed Nationals due to over-subscription, teams with the lowest point totals will be excluded. It is important to note that this points system and event structure is different from that of the Ultim8 Tour in several ways. Firstly, there is significantly less pressure to attend every event- missing an event will not effect your seeding at the next event, and many teams will have ample points for entry to the Mixed Nationals and a reasonable seeding for that event by attending one or two Mixed Series events. In addition to the national events, it is hoped that teams will organise an official one-day event in their region. To qualify as an 'official' event, the event must be publicised on Britdisc, open to any rostered mixed teams, provide a minimum of 6 hours of playing time, and enforce the rostering system OR use a hat-tournament format. Points can be acquired at these events, although they will not count towards the minimum of 10 points earned at a national event needed for Mixed Nationals qualification. Additional Nationals qualification points can be earned by rostering new players. One point is earned for each new player rostered to play in any official event. For official hat-tournaments, points for new players rostered will go to the team which recruited that player. A new player is defined as a player that has never played an Ultim8 Tour event, a student event, a women's event, a mixed event, a Mixed Series official hat-tournament, or any other British or foreign tournament, excluding hat-tournaments not part of the Mixed Series. (In theory, a player could have played in a hat-tournament, and still qualify as a new player.) As this is a new system, there is limited opportunity to check on a player's past history; Spirit of the Game will have to extend to honesty about team rosters and new players. Teams found abusing the new player points system will lose any illegally gained points and 'fined' and additional 50 points per offence. Wherever possible, Mixed series events will not conflict with Ultim8 Tour events, Women's tournaments, or GB training sessions. However- many of the regional events could take place on weekends where there is a foreign tournament or a GB training session, as the player draw will be less than that of an Ultim8 event. PLEASE NOTE- it will be easily possible for a single player to play for an Ultim8 tour team, participate in GB squads, play on a Women's team (where applicable), play the occasional foreign tournament, AND to play for a mixed team. Rosters and Players Each team must submit a roster for each Mixed Series event. The roster will collect information on players, including addresses and e-mail addresses, for addition to the player database. A player may play for only one rostered team at a time, but unlike the Ultim8 Tour, there will be no limit on changing teams during the season. A player can play for a different team for each event if he/she wishes, providing he/she meets the regional roster requirements. The only limitation on changing rosters comes into effect for Mixed Nationals. For a player to play with a team at Mixed Nationals, he/she must have been on that team's roster for one of the previous Mixed Series events. In the event that Mixed Nationals is the selection criteria used for World Clubs, a team qualifying for World Clubs must send a team that includes AT LEAST 7 of the players who played to qualify. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 12:42:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA18628 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:40:12 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18616 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:40:10 GMT Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08222 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:40:09 GMT Received: from pcddad.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.48] helo=Al) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12XkQ7-0006XE-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:39:31 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:41:38 -0000 Message-ID: <01BF93FB.F70D94C0.all7@aber.ac.uk> From: Alex Livingstone Reply-To: "all7@aber.ac.uk" To: "'Britdisc'" , "'Student Ultimate'" Subject: Lost property and lifts to tournaments Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:41:37 -0000 Organization: MwnciSee X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Instead of clogging up Britdisc and student ultimate with messages about lost property and lifts to tournaments, there is now a new way to do this, if you got to the Uk ultimate website at http://www.aber.ac.uk/~all7/ and go to the lifts or property page, then you can post a message. This will free up valuable space on Britdisc and allow a bit more of an organised way for people to offer and request lifts and look for or post lost property messages. If everyone uses it then it will become useful, if no one does, it will not. If anyone has any other suggestions for my site or for message boards, don't hesitate to e-mail me. Alex PS I know that it looks shit in netscape at the moment. --------------------------------------------------------- Alex Livingstone President of Mwnci See University of Wales, Aberystwyth Visit our website: http://www.mwncisee.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 17:08:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA02288 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:06:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02278 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:06:15 GMT Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28847 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:06:14 GMT Received: from 97315250 (tu454938.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.113.45]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07964 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:06:19 GMT Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:06:19 GMT From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <200003221706.RAA07964@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Bliss/women's ultimate in London Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Bliss are starting up their outdoor training sessions, in London, from Sunday 9th April. We play at Regents Park (next to the Zoo!) at 10.30am for an 11.00am start. This practice is initially open to any women (either in or out of London) who would like to come along. Hope to see you there. Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 22 21:59:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA23796 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:57:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA23788 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:57:12 GMT Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20468 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:57:12 GMT Received: from p113-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.8] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12Xt0L-0003p6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:49:30 +0000 Message-ID: <002001bf9449$24f32060$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Tour 1 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:54:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF9449.23AC96A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF9449.23AC96A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Can someone let me know who I should speak to about entering a team into = tour 1.=20 Thanks in advance, Matt ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF9449.23AC96A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
Can someone let me know who I should = speak to about=20 entering a team into tour 1.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Matt
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BF9449.23AC96A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 23 12:19:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA09359 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:16:49 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09339 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:16:46 GMT From: 20005054@northampton.ac.uk Received: from fig.nene.ac.uk (fig.nene.ac.uk [193.61.80.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10518 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:16:45 GMT Received: from northampton.ac.uk by northampton.ac.uk (PMDF V5.2-32 #40015) id <01JNDEK4FD5000046F@northampton.ac.uk> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:17:49 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 12:17:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Lift to Bradford Indoors.. To: "'BritDisc'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anyone going to the Bradford indoors 8/9 April, is going anywhere near Northampton (or Milton keynes) and could give me a lift. Cheers, Adam Hughes Swamp Donkeys , <20005054@northampton.ac.uk> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 23 15:21:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA21126 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:19:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21103 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:19:04 GMT Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (web802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.62]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA15932 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:18:54 GMT Received: (qmail 18697 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2000 15:18:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20000323151849.18696.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.36.171.210] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:18:49 PST Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 07:18:49 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?andy=20lucey?= Subject: robins vs wonder To: britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Stevie Wonder and Derek Robins are in a bar(!). Robins turns to Wonder and >says: >How is the singing career going?" >Stevie Wonder replies: "Not too bad! How's the golf?" > >Robins replies: "Not too bad, I've had some problems with my swing, but I >think I've got that right now."> >Stevie Wonder says: "I always find that when my swing goes wrong, I need to >stop playing for a while and not think about it. Then, the next time I >play, it seems to be all right.>>Del Robins says: "You play golf?!"> >Stevie Wonder says: "Oh, yes, I've been playing for years." > >Robins says: "But, you're blind. How can you play golf if you're >blind?" > >Wonder replies: "I get my caddy to stand in the middle of the fairway and >call to me. I listen for the sound of his voice and throw towards >him. Then, when I get to where the ball lands, the caddy moves to the >green >or farther down the fairway and again I throw towards his voice.">>"But, how do you putt?", asks Del. > >"Well," says Stevie, "I get my caddy to stand behind the basket and >call to me and I just putt- it goes in every time Robins asks: "What's your best score?" > >Stevie says, "Well, last time i played essex i threw a 51- in the wind......" > >Del, incredulous, says to Stevie: "We've got to play a round sometime." > >Wonder replies: "Well, people don't take me seriously, so I only play for money, and never play for less than $10,000 a hole."> >Robins thinks about it and says, "OK, I'm game for that, when would you like >to play?">> Stevie says, "Pick a night!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 23 17:24:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA26371 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26360 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:19 GMT Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18788 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:04 GMT Received: from [212.140.65.245] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12YBKI-00030J-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:19 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01bf94ec$ba5fdaa0$f5418cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Fw: need hosts for Mixed tournaments Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All- David J.C. MacKay pointed out the following to me- > only 8 pitches??? > How about four? > > Even Ross on Wye only has six pitches. > Surely you didnt mean 8? Well, I did mean 8- but as you've pointed out, 16 team tournaments can happen on 6, or even 4 pitches. So, thanks to Dave for pointing out the error. 8 pitches would be nice, in case loads of teams want to play- but it isn't necessary. What is important that these tournaments happen- so if you have 4 pitches and want to have a mixed tournament- let me know. Nancy Stebbing From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 23 17:45:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA00476 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:44:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00470 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:44:18 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20597 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:44:17 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 23 Mar 100 17:42:36 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 23 Mar 100 17:42:31 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:42:24 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Quarry Park Disc Golf X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <67C41DD554E@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA00472 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Quarry Park Fools Tournament - April 1-2nd This is a BDGA “B” tier event. All disc golfers are welcome to enter regardless of whether you are a BDGA member. Entry is £12 for 2 days of competition. This includes lunch on both days. There is a £1 reduction for BDGA members and further £1 off for people who pay before the day. So its £10 for pre- registered BDGA members. Send cheques payable to D.J.Robins to 50 Spring Lane, Kenilworth, Warwickshire, CV8 2HD. Info on the course is at... http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf/html/quarry_park.html If you are interested in purchasing golf discs, go to .... http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf/html/discs_for_sale.html Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 24 16:04:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA18540 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:02:19 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18526 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:02:16 GMT Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:02:16 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Paul Hurt Subject: London League info coming... Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" London Ultimate League - please sign up to the list if you haven't already ------------------------------------------------------------------------ London League should hopefully start at the end of April. I'm about to post some important info about the League to the league mailing list. If you're interested in taking part in this year's London Ultimate League, and you haven't already done so, please sign up to the London League mailing list, otherwise you will miss this info. Either: 1) point a web browser at: http://www.onelist.com/group/londonleague and click the subscr1be button ...or... 2) send a blank mail to londonleague-subscribe@onelist.com Please do it now! I'll wait until Monday before posting the message. Cheers Paul PS London what? Info about last year's league at http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ --------------------------------- Paul Hurt paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 24 16:23:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA23832 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:22:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23805 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:22:10 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26783 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:22:05 GMT Received: from cst208.york.ac.uk (cst208.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.20]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04519 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:21:34 GMT Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:21:33 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: Tom To: BRITDISC Subject: Tour 1 In-Reply-To: <002001bf9449$24f32060$a69cfea9@user> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, Please could someone email me about entering teams into the tour? Cheers, Tom YBK From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 26 23:22:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA09577 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:19:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09572 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:19:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08221 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:19:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12ZLNs-0006cq-0K; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:19:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 23:04:15 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: Layout Dreams Mailing List , U8C Mailing List From: Layout Dreams Subject: Swindon {hints + warnings} and the Tour {unofficial} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There have been some 'I need to know more...' queries, so here are some answers: Tour 1 is on April 29+30 The tournament venue is: The Allied Dunbar Conference and Training Centre, King Edwards Place, Liddington/Wanborough approx 6 miles East of Swindon. The Tournament Directors are Layout Dreams (Wayne Retter and Chris Hughes), contactable by email to LayoutDreams@egroups.com (see later in message before hassling us further!) A FEW WORDS OF WARNING: This time around, there are a distinct lack of the on-site luxuries normally associated with this venue: ROOMS are NOT AVAILABLE DINING HALL (Saturday dinner) is NOT AVAILABLE THE BAR ('Party Venue') is NOT AVAILABLE THE PUB within staggering distance is CLOSED ON SATURDAY therefore, teams that hope to enter should bear in mind that they need to sort out food, and potentially accommodation. I am still struggling to confirm availability of: the Campsite, (I'm working to secure this as a priority!) St John Ambulance crew, Massage team WE DO have the basics: Pitches, Showers, Water supply, Pitchside bar (and BBQ) That's honesty for ya.... For accommodation, pub, and 'where to eat' guides for Swindon, contact: Swindon Information Centre 37 Regent Street Swindon SN1 1JL tel: 01793-530328/466454 fax: 01793-434031 THE TOUR {VERY UNofficial} Hopefully, Chris Hughes (BUF Director of Competitions) will issue packages (by snail-mail) to all teams registered with the BUF, containing the OFFICIAL, CORRECT and EXACT details that I've outlined below, and the updated Tour Rules. There should also be details of where to send the DEPOSITS, and hopefully an entry form detailing where and how much to send to Layout Dreams for Tour 1. It is MY understanding that the Tour will not be too dissimilar from previous years. To enter the Tour it will be necessary to SUBMIT A ROSTER, preferably via the ***NEW*** BUF online system. To ENTER an event it will be necessary to: 1) MEET DEADLINES (usually 1 month before event) to PAY A DEPOSIT to the BUF; 2) MEET DEADLINES (set by TD, approx 3-4 weeks before event) to PAY ENTRY FEE to TOURNAMENT DIRECTORS. 3) AWAIT CONFIRMATION of entry - it's possible that you may meet these deadlines but not qualify for other reasons (Tour Ranking may kick in here...). Obviously, the 'one month before the Event' deadlines for Tour 1 are NOW, so hopefully we'll all hear from Chris in the next few days. Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 27 00:31:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA03682 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:29:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03670; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:29:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10716; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:29:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.30.114] (helo=sigma) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12ZMSj-0004Kp-00; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:28:53 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01bf977a$cf5f5940$721eac3e@sigma> From: "Vanessa White" To: "Womens Alexa Troedson" , "Womens Dora Kemp" , "Womens Laura Pearce" , "Womens Nancy Stebbing" , "Womens Terri Whitehead" , "Womens Tara Jewell" <97315250@brookes.ac.uk>, "Womens Sarah Strafford" , "Womens Sarah Kirwan" , "Womens Ruth Taylor" , "Womens Sally Pennington" , "Womens Nayda Hewitson" , "Womens Natalie Visser" , "Womens Lucy Powell" , "Womens Emma Buttle" , "Britdisc" Subject: Women's Nationals Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:26:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF9783.0B752600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF9783.0B752600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for bids for Women's Outdoor National on July 1st and 2nd. Please either email your bids by Friday May 5th or call me on 020 = 86634856. Requirements:=20 Minimum of 4 pitches, and free accommodation for student teams. Thanks Vanessa White Women's Co-Ordinator ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF9783.0B752600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am looking for bids for Women's = Outdoor National=20 on July 1st and 2nd.
 
Please either email your bids by Friday = May 5th or=20 call me on 020 86634856.
 
Requirements:
Minimum of 4 pitches, and free = accommodation for=20 student teams.
 
Thanks
 
Vanessa White
Women's = Co-Ordinator
------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF9783.0B752600-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 27 07:50:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA15102 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15097 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@[137.205.227.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22430 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA09066 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200003270647.HAA09066@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 1st April 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - April Fools (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Student Regional Team Finals (2 days) @ Leicester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://axiom-emg.net/pookas Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 27 14:51:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA13462 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:48:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13442 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:48:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05771 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:48:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.17.46]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 12ZZtE-0001rx-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:49:08 +0100 Received: from MMU-ART-MAGELLAN/SpoolDir by magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 27 Mar 100 14:48:47 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-ART-MAGELLAN (Mercury 1.31); 27 Mar 100 14:48:24 GMT From: "Grae Hall" <97037486@mmu.ac.uk> Organization: MMU To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:48:22 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: T-shirts X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <2A0118048DA@magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone out there in Britdisc land knows of somewhere that prints T-shirts for reasonable rate, could you let me know? Thanks Grae Hall Fingers 6, Manchester. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 27 15:19:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA21553 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:18:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21548 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:18:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08862 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:18:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:12:16 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:18:30 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E5B9@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Horse Bandits Win Nationals! Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:18:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A tournament report from Indoor Nationals at Plymouth. Be warned this report is based on my recollection, and under no circumstances be taken as fact. Pool A Headed by regional winners BAF and Strange Blue, pool A looked the tougher of the two, although both these teams had one eye looking behind them expecting to see the Horse Bandit come trampling up through the pool. Neither team was disappointed, although it is fair to say that with the possible exception of Picnic and 3 frogs, no-one in the pool was dismissed out of hand. SBlue lost to Horse Bandits early in the day by 3 points, and BAF had a poor game to lose by 4 points to the Bandits. This left a crunch match for our last game on Saturday against SBlue with the winner making it to the semi's. BAF won comfortably to make a top four slot. 3 Frogs headed down the placings, to be passed by Skunks and Baboom coming up. Picnic, in as hosts scored their only(?) win of the weekend by beating 3 Frogs. Pool B The Druids cruised the majority of their games, as expected to win their pool. However this was not without a major wobble against Nightfever, coming from behind to win 9-8 in the dying seconds. Their progress was made easier by the temporary absence of Sammy, leaving Chevron to take on Druids with only four players. (Sammy's absence was not down to the quantities of alcohol consumed the night before, and instead due to the Bears evicting him from their minibus, as they ran out of seats.) This left Mud Culture, seeded second in the pool, to fight off the challenge of Chevron, and D Bob, to maintain second slots in the pool. Bears came screaming up from final place in the pool to fight with the big boys at the top, and angels slipped a couple of places down the pool. As mentioned Nightfever almost had their moment of glory against the Druids. A moment of controversy arose as in the dying seconds of the D Bob / Angels game Chris Berry put the Hail Mary up to Jo Thompson in an attempt to win the game, and as Jo went up for the disc, was fouled (not deliberately) by an Angels player. Uncontested foul - possession on the end zone, but before the disc could be recovered, the clock ran out. Both teams felt this was an unfortunate way to end the game, and wished to play the 22 second point again. However this had implications for other teams, and their results, and similarly other games that had finished on foul / travel / etc. calls. Hence the result stood. Expect the debate on playing games to time to continue.... Semi's Possibly Some of the most exciting ultimate it has been my pleasure to watch, and be involved in. First up Mexican Horse Bandits v Mud Culture. The expected easy route for Horse Bandits to progress into final never materialised. Horse Bandits cam out firing and took an early control of the game. Back came Mud Culture with some outstanding defence and repeatedly pressurised the Bandits into turning over, with Mud always staying that point ahead. Then with a minute to go, a D in their own zone got Mud the disc. Some tactical planning and possession to run out the clock was in order, and Mud were in the final. Apart from one wobbly toss pass that was fumbled under pressure; now Bandits have the disc, and with seconds to go, score to bring the game level at 10 all, and enter sudden death. Mud Culture receive the pull, patiently work it up field, then slightly over cook a sidearm into the zone, just out of reach of the receiver. Steve Shapely, the guru of patient ultimate collects the disc, assesses his options, and decides to show us what happens if he lets go of that hammer fake. This hits the wall, well over Norms head. However, Steve demonstrates what a masterful tactian that he is - obviously he played for territorial gain - as Bandits force the turnover in Mud's half and get the score to progress to the final. Next up BAF v Druids. In a recreation of the final last year, Merrick Cardew, and Wayne Davey, were the ones out to get D's. The game was extremely tight, and included that rare event, a Batchelor layout. The Druids pulled away to a two point cushion at 7-5. Neither team made a breakthrough, until BAF scored 3 unanswered points to make the score 10-9. BAF try to slow the game with a zone, but Druids score to level, another score to BAF, makes the score 11-10, and BAF throw another zone as Druids receive the disc with less than a minute to go. A couple of passes leaves Wayne to attempt to stick out a leg to try and land in the zone with seconds to go. However, he can't get the other leg out of the way, and lands straddling the line. As BAF relax, Wayne amazed that the hooter hasn't gone tries a last ditch pass to Pete Hallet from the floor, which is just intercepted by G Kellman, leave a Horse Bandits - BAF final. I was out playing golf, so I missed all the playoff games. The Final (You'll be pleased to know I can't remember much); Unlike the pool game BAF, comes out firing, and quickly take the score to 4-1. The cushion was slowly eroded by Horse Bandits who leveled the score at 8-8, The cap was set at 11-9 with Horse Bandits in ascendancy, and only needing 2 points to make it. I remember the last point being far too quick, with a rapid turnover by me, and an even faster transition by Steve. The game was tough and a fantastic Compton. Horse Bandits won Spirit of the Game, Rik Shapely won MVP, and I will get the trophies to you all eventually (D'oh!) Many thanks to Kerry, and Picnic. It was a great event, and I will put the full list of finishing positions, as soon as I get one. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 27 16:32:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA09292 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:31:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09271 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:31:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.warnaco.com ([208.162.105.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16491 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:30:54 +0100 (BST) From: KLittle@Warnaco.com Received: from warnex2.warnaco.com ([208.162.105.72]) by mail.warnaco.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08366 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:16:24 -0500 Received: by warnex2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:30:10 -0500 Message-ID: To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: Returned mail: Host unknown (Error 279) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:31:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BF9801.55FF3F66" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_003_01BF9801.55FF3F66-- ------_=_NextPart_002_01BF9801.55FF3F66-- ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9801.55FF3F66-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 28 10:16:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA00290 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:11:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00269 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (web113.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.84]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA00296 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:11:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 6310 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2000 09:10:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000328091040.6309.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [194.42.250.68] by web113.yahoomail.com; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 01:10:40 PST Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 01:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: looking for a women's team... To: Vanessa White , Womens Alexa Troedson , Womens Dora Kemp , Womens Laura Pearce , Womens Nancy Stebbing , Womens Terri Whitehead , Womens Tara Jewell <97315250@brookes.ac.uk>, Womens Sarah Strafford , Womens Sarah Kirwan , Womens Ruth Taylor , Womens Sally Pennington , Womens Nayda Hewitson , Womens Natalie Visser , Womens Lucy Powell , Womens Emma Buttle , Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm looking for a womens team to play on this summer, for women's nationals etc. As far as I know, there's nothing in the Manchester area? (4 non blondes doesn't exist anymore?) I picked up with Bears 2 in Leicester (thanks guys!) but it was all very last minute and I'd like to have something worked out in advance, that would maybe involve a few practices, etc. Thanks for any help/info! Sarah Eckman fingers 6 manchester __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 28 10:34:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA05717 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:33:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05696; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:33:20 +0100 (BST) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from gw-us1.philips.com (gw-us1.philips.com [205.167.14.34]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10404; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 10:33:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-us1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-us1.philips.com with ESMTP id EAA25536; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:31:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) Received: from smtprelay-nam1.philips.com(130.140.196.208) by gw-us1.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma025534; Tue, 28 Mar 00 04:31:23 -0500 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-us1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id EAA09904; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA09156; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:31:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900007834361; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:33:11 +0200 To: Cc: , , , , , , <97315250@brookes.ac.uk>, , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: looking for a women's team... Message-ID: <0056900007834361000002L012*@MHS> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:33:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 03/28/00 11:28:49" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA05698 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sarah, Bliss are starting some open womens practices in London all women are welcome, I believe the first one is 09.04.00 but it might be better to check Brit Disc. This might be a good place to arrange picking up for a team, and get in a decent womens practice... I think Bliss are fully subscribed at the moment, as we still have a lot of players left from last years worlds, but we may be able to help you find something! Hannah (Bliss 21) ps. Maybe also try contacting Janitors, as they have a fair amount of women. seckman1@yahoo.com@SMTP@warwick.ac.uk on 28/03/2000 10:23:33 Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk@SMTP sp17ekb@lucs-02.novell.leeds.ac.uk@SMTP pyuni@csv.warwick.ac.uk@SMTP hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk@SMTP Nadya.Hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk@SMTP hsp298@soton.ac.uk@SMTP ruth.taylor@bass.com@SMTP mavea@csv.warwick.ac.uk@SMTP StratfordS@cardiff.ac.uk@SMTP 97315250@brookes.ac.uk@SMTP terri@cloe.demon.co.uk@SMTP nancy.stebbing@tesco.net@SMTP laurapearce@btinternet.com@SMTP dak12@cam.ac.uk@SMTP altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk@SMTP V.C.White@tesco.net@SMTP cc: Subject: looking for a women's team... Classification: Restricted Hi, I'm looking for a womens team to play on this summer, for women's nationals etc. As far as I know, there's nothing in the Manchester area? (4 non blondes doesn't exist anymore?) I picked up with Bears 2 in Leicester (thanks guys!) but it was all very last minute and I'd like to have something worked out in advance, that would maybe involve a few practices, etc. Thanks for any help/info! Sarah Eckman fingers 6 manchester __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 28 13:19:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA12855 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:16:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12848 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:16:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand6.global.net.uk (sand6.global.net.uk [195.147.246.105]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25829 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:16:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from pa6s10a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.170.167] helo=default) by sand6.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12Zuwa-0007Lg-00; Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:18:01 +0100 Message-ID: <003501bf98ae$edf12ac0$a7aa93c3@default> From: "Lewis Glover" To: "juniors" , , Subject: Accommadation for Tour 1 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 13:00:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF98B5.A22FB000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF98B5.A22FB000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 The GB Juniors are hopefully entering a team in to all 4 tour events = this year as preparation for The Worlds in August. We have more chance of getting more Juniors to play if we can find some = floor space to crash out on near Swindon especially as some are as young as 12. There must be some Ultimate = Players near Swindon who are willing and=20 able to help us out or an ultimate player who knows someone who will = help us out??? Please get in touch if you can offer any assistance. Lewis loopy@cwcom.net ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF98B5.A22FB000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
The GB Juniors are hopefully entering a team in to = all 4 tour=20 events this year as preparation for The Worlds
in August.
 
We have more chance of getting more Juniors to play = if we can=20 find some floor space to crash out on near Swindon
especially as some are as young as 12. There must be = some=20 Ultimate Players near Swindon who are willing and
able to help us out or an ultimate player who knows = someone=20 who will help us out???
 
Please get in touch if you can offer any=20 assistance.
 
Lewis
 
loopy@cwcom.net
 
 
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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 29 12:58:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA13804 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:55:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13765 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:55:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07383; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 12:55:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 29 Mar 100 11:53:54 GMT+0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 29 Mar 100 11:53:45 GMT+0000 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:53:43 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Setting up a club in Bridgnorth CC: WP Thomas X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <70675C9409D@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, This is a posting on behalf of Patrick Thomas, who has had an illustrious career in Ultimate, playing for Small Furry Animals, Stan, Wolves, Suntans etc. He is setting up a team in Bridgnorth and welcomes advice << quote >> Bridgnorth has no university or college of higher education, but it does have a strong sporting community. Do you know the name of anyone who has set up a team outside of a college before ? Is there any existing standard PR copy to promote ultimate that I could adapt for local press and radio ? << end quote >>> I have given him some web addresses, but if you want to offer any advice etc please contact Patrick directly on WP Thomas Thanks, Derek *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 29 14:35:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA08017 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08007 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from fizzle.bomb.co.uk (root@fizzle.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04845 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:32:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from barru (ip190.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.190]) by fizzle.bomb.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e2TDMhL22950; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:22:47 +0100 Message-Id: <200003291322.e2TDMhL22950@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:35:44 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Setting up a club in Bridgnorth Cc: WP Thomas In-Reply-To: <70675C9409D@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, www.ultimatehandbook.com A site that everyone should visit. Barry At 11:53 29/03/00 +0000, Derek Robins wrote: >Hi, >This is a posting on behalf of Patrick Thomas, who has had an >illustrious career in Ultimate, playing for Small Furry Animals, >Stan, Wolves, Suntans etc. > >He is setting up a team in Bridgnorth and welcomes advice ><< quote >> >Bridgnorth has no university or college of higher education, but it >does have a strong sporting community. Do you know the name >of anyone who has set up a team outside of a college before ? > >Is there any existing standard PR copy to promote ultimate that I >could adapt for local press and radio ? > ><< end quote >>> > >I have given him some web addresses, but if you want to offer >any advice etc please contact Patrick directly on > >WP Thomas > >Thanks, > >Derek > > >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- >Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk >Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 >University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 >Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 29 18:11:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA09057 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:09:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09050 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:09:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk (pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk [141.163.2.62]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA29578 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:09:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from csuf43.csd.plymouth.ac.uk ([141.163.188.1] helo=csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk) by pandora.csd.plymouth.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12aLyQ-0005L7-00 for Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:09:42 +0100 Received: from CSUF43/SpoolDir by csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 29 Mar 100 18:09:42 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by CSUF43 (Mercury 1.44); 29 Mar 100 18:09:33 +0000 From: "KERRY ANNE MAYBURY" Organization: University of Plymouth To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:09:30 GMT Subject: Nationals Results Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, Sorry it's taken so long to post the Final Positions (server problems) but here they are: UK INDOOR NATIONALS - PLYMOUTH 1 Mexican Horse Bandits 2 Blue Arse Flies 3 Mud Culture 4 Druids OAP's 5 Bears 6 C U L8R (Skunks) 7 Chevron AF 8 Strange Blue 9 D Please, Bob (Plate) 10 Mohawks 11 Angels 12 Three Frogs 13 NightFever 14 Baboom 15 Top Shelf Sleaze 16 Picnic (But we did win one game! So there!!!) Spirit : Mexican Horse Bandits MVP : Rik Shipley (Bandits) And so to the main events, Fri Night Teams met up in the Roundabout and started with the fun and games straight away - there were bottle downing races between Fever and Picnic. CUL8R, Baboom, Mohawks and one representative of Top Shelf Sleeve then proceeded to move onwards and downwards - There was comedy dancing on the stage in Bar Rio from Blagger(Fever), Josh(Fever) and Mike (Picnic) as well as a suprise flashing (Yes she did have a nipple ring!) to all the Fever and Mohawks boys ! Sat Night The Main Event of the Weekend - A good show up from most teams - Picnic, Fever, CUL8R, Bears, Baboom, Mohawks, Top Shelf Sleeze, Mexican Horse Bandits, Strange Blue, 3 Frogs, Mud, Chevron, etc... (Just the old buggers missing really -BAF & Druids!) There was dancing and drinking, fighting and fondling, special mentions to Sammy from Chevron and the Mexican Horse Bandit Boys for particular good drinking skills in keeping up with the habitual drunkards of Picnic and Fever and yet managing to play high standard Frisbee the following day unlike the other two ! The clocks going forward fooled a few - not least Picnic who took on BAF with 5 players (Including Me - who was hoping for a playing free weekend). A big thank you has to go out to Chris Hughes for doing all the scheduling for the weekend as well as to everyone who helped score and mark out the pitches. Also thank you to Jenny, Nicola and Mike from Picnic for putting people up, i know the teams appreciated it. All in all an excellent weekend - Thanks to everyone for coming all the way down and Congratulations again to the Mexican Horse Bandits : Champions, Spirit, and drinking with the best of them on the Saturday ! All in all not a bad weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! See you all outdoors when the true force of the mighty Picnic will shine though - Maybe ??!?!?!!? Cheers, Kerry xxx Picnic Pres. LOST PROPERTY : A pair of rather new looking Addidas trainers, Size 11. A Navy blue training top. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 12:59:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA25680 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:55:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25649 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:55:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f81.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15783 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:54:49 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 82332 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2000 11:54:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20000330115416.82331.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.64.185 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:54:16 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.92.64.185] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, dak12@cam.ac.uk, gynga@excite.com, isla@isla.freeserve.co.uk, badbird@cwcom.net, lucy@mcg.gla.ac.uk, FaneS@logica.com, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk, alice.paterson@pmail.net, CZIMBA1@irf.com, socs311@york.ac.uk, ca7910@bristol.ac.uk, Emma.Sevitt@AllenOvery.com, Wpb198@soton.ac.uk, C.R.Francis@herts.ac.uk, laurapearce@btinternet.com, ecsldeff@livjm.ac.uk, nancy.stebbing@tesco.net, hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk, nicole_e_atkinson@yahoo.co.uk, shirley.fuller@eu.effem.com, 97315250@brookes.ac.uk Subject: Women's Contact Detail Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:54:16 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2956c0fe_72651526$38604e68" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2956c0fe_72651526$38604e68 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Initally I would like to thank all the women that have completed the forms. I will be publishing the list soon, but I am sure that I have missed a few of you. If you have not completed the form please do so and send back to me either by post or email. 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QAA21904 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:43:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21890 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:43:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net (mserv1a.u-net.net [195.102.240.34]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21252 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:42:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from p43.nas4.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.201.171] helo=modusglobal.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12ah4F-0002aX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:41:08 +0100 X-Sender: sales-modusglobal@mail.u-net.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: WP Thomas Subject: PR Copy - Which is rumour, which is true ? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:41:08 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have played ultimate for about ten years and have never sorted out the nuggets of PR gold from the urban myths. I am writing some PR copy for a forthcoming exhibition event in Bridgnorth in April 16th. So I would like to hear your comments on which of these is rumour and which is true (and any other little gems in terms of courting mainstream acceptance that I may not have picked up): A) Frisbee was used by the British Army for training. Particular virtues of the game include development of hand to eye co-ordination, thinking as a team and superior cardio-vascular / aerobic elements of the game. B) Frisbee has been on the five-sport shortlist for the Olympics for the past three Games. Despite the uniquely olympic nature of the sport it has never made it, through lack of exposure to the general public. PS Sammy has just sent me a similar gem (it was meant to be a demonstration sport for LA. & Is listed as a sport for the World games 2001.) C) Frisbee is a recognised college sport in the USA and a curriculum school sport in Scandinavia.(which countries or all?) D) A regulation frisbee holds three pints of beer (I have to pretend I do not know the answer to that one) Thank you very much for your time, Patrick Thomas PS Quick as you can - the first of the copy deadlines is Monday From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 17:24:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA29742 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:23:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29716 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:22:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA19089 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:22:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.122.213] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000273571; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:23:11 +0100 Message-ID: <38E37F5D.6240F93F@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:23:18 +0100 From: Jim Jam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WP Thomas CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: PR Copy - Which is rumour, which is true ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WP Thomas wrote: > A) Frisbee was used by the British Army for training. Particular virtues of > the game include development of hand to eye co-ordination, thinking as a > team and superior cardio-vascular / aerobic elements of the game. I've never heard that one before! However, this one is true: "Another Great Frisbee Moment: In 1968, the U.S. Navy spends almost $400,000 to study Frisbees in wind tunnels, follow their flights with computers and cameras, and build a special Frisbee-launching machine on top of a Utah cliff to test a prototype flare launcher." This quote taken from a full article on the invention of the flying disc: http://inventors.about.com/education/inventors/library/weekly/aa980218.htm?iam=mt&terms=%2Bfred+%2Bmorrison Hop this is of use. Bes* Jes* -- Jester | Usability Designer | Content Architect Deepend | 44-46 Scrutton Street | London | EC2A 4QL T +44 (0)20 7247 2999 | F +44 (0)20 7247 9996 E jester@deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 17:36:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA02604 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:35:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02596 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:35:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f135.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.135]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20277 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:35:53 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 51345 invoked by uid 0); 30 Mar 2000 16:35:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20000330163513.51344.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.206 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:35:13 PST X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.206] From: "Simon Barry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nationals At Plymouth Last Weekend Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:35:13 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I thought the tournament was very good-spirited and enjoyable and I heartily appreciate the work of Kerry and Chris Hughes in putting it together in less than ideal circumstances. I do however want to mention what I (and it seemed many other people I spoke to over the weekend) thought was the one major error of the weekend and that was the schedule. For those who do not know.... the structure was 2 pools of 8 teams playing 25 minute games from the start; at the end of pool play the top 2 in each pool went straight into semi-finals and a final while everyone else played off once against their opposite number in the other pool. I don't know why the traditional ultimate tournament format was not followed - by making the pool games 20 mins (a perfectly decent length for pool play) there could have been 4th/5th and 3rd/6th crossovers and then top and bottom 8 quarters, semis and finals. There are a couple of reasons why I believe the schedule used was less satisfying then the traditional schedule: Because a team had to finish in the top 2 of a pool of 8 it meant that one bad game effectively eliminated a team from the tournament. The majority of teams present were playing for nothing more than places by halfway thru the first day. A tournament should be open for as long as possible, ie it should be winnable by as many teams as possible for as much of its duration as possible, in order to be attractive as an event for everyone taking part. You have to feel you've got a chance, even if it's a slim one, otherwise why play? The traditional schedule keeps meaningless games down to a minimum. After pool play and crossovers, 8 teams still have a chance of winning and the other 8 have an honourable plate to fight over. Last weekend most teams were playing "for fun" by Saturday afternoon. The schedule, unfortunately, gave the impression that the event was only really about the top few fancied teams, that it was a foregone conclusion that it was only really between them, and that the rest were there just to make up the numbers. It is correct that when you base the results of a tournament largely on league play rather than knock-out play then you usually get a truer result, ie it is a truer way of determining who is the best team overall. (Eg compare Premier champs vs FA Cup champs). But who cares? It's not supposed to be a scientific survey. It depends on what you think is important but IMHO our tournaments should maximise the feeling of competition, involvement, risk and, thru these, enjoyment of participation. If we meet BAF in a quarter-final we know that they are likely to win. But when we line up for the match we also genuinely believe that if we play hard and well enough that we might overturn the form book and defeat them. Without this feeling, and the occasional underdog victory to back it up, the sport's not worth playing. In fact it would hardly be a sport at all. For these reasons I would hope that, in the future, BUF non-Tour events will always use a structure that keeps the event open for as long as possible, and that has a knockout element from at least a quarter-final stage onwards. May I just reiterate that these observations are not criticisms of any person or team. Especially not of CH without whose repeated willingness to go once more unto the breach we would not have half of what we get tournament-wise. I believe that anyone can make a mistake and that a mistake was made with the schedule. If others share my view then the mistake need not be made again - if I'm in a minority, then I accept that too. May I also reiterate that my points have nothing to do with the results of the tournament - I am sure that if the tourny was run in what I have called the traditional way then the results would be the same. It is not the outcome but the "personality" of events that I am commenting on. Thanks Si Barry ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 17:42:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA03970 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:41:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03964 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:41:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20839 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:41:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Thu Mar 30 08:39:28 2000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:39:28 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Tour I X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It is my understanding that Chris Hughes (DoC) is snail-mailing the Tour information out to all teams today (Thurs). This will include details on who/where to pay/send: GBP 15.00 BUF Tax/Deposit AND GBP 75.00 Tour 1 Entry Fee AND Team Contact Details (student teams will need to provide details for someone that will forward stuff around...) To make it fair (some teams aren't on eMail/BritDisc), I'm not allowed to tell you the details. WARNING: Guessing who/where and trying to send money early WON'T do you any favours (especially when you get it wrong 'cos things have changed!) Wayne --- Wayne Retter at work: 01737-273611 at home: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:00:40 Spud Cud wrote: >Just wondering about Tour I, we haven't received any information >here in Leeds, and since we break up for Easter in a week, we are >just wondering where to send money, and how much? Any other >information would also be appreciated. >Brendan >Jedi, TFC, Ireland. __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 18:12:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA12167 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:11:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12162 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost ([195.226.55.115]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23782 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:11:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from pc124.videosystem.co.uk (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:14:41 +0100 Received: by pc124.videosystem.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <01BF9A72.FD6EA7A0@pc124.videosystem.co.uk>; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:08:45 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF9A72.FD6EA7A0@pc124.videosystem.co.uk> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Nationals At Plymouth Last Weekend Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:08:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id SAA12163 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good comments by Simon, but I would like to add a further criticism (or two), again, not aimed at anyone, but just hoping that we can learn from less than ideal situations that arose. Having games played to 24 minutes with 1 minutes turn around meant that when the hooter went, the game was over (with the exception of catching the disc if it was in the air). I don't think this is satisfactory for our National Indoors. You can argue that it's only schmindoors, but it is still a good training ground for newer players, and we should have 'fair' competitions. You'd expect in the National Finals to have more than a fair share of close games. Ending games on the hooter increases the chances of games being won/lost on the flip of the disc. Allowing draws in the pool games is one thing, but not playing out the point when time runs out is crazy. A couple of games ended on discussions which could not be resolved once the clock had run out (and the next teams were queuing up to play). We ended a crucial game with an uncontested foul in the endzone (result, no score) and both teams went away feeling that the rules are wrong and the over-riding spirit of the game had failed. The impact of this result was that Bears went into 5/6 playoff rather than 9/10. Quite a difference when your goal is to get a 'true' result. Anyone that has run an indoor tournament knows about the problems of scheduling when you don't stop on the hooter, but it isn't difficult to cope with 22 minutes games, and playing the point out after the hooter. Few points go on for more than 3 minutes, and if a game does over-run, you should be back on schedule within a couple of games. Also (gripe number two), shouldn't we be playing be the same rules in the finals as the qualifiers since they are deemed to be the same tournament (and hence the rostering)? In the South West Qualifiers held in the same venue a few weeks earlier, the rules required a check on the disc and to play out the point once the hooter has gone. I realise that scheduling all the qualifiers would be a little more complex when you apply the same rules (since most schedules set game length based on number of pitches, number of pools, total number of games, swap over time, etc.) but it should be something we could aim at. In defence of the rather harsh schedule though, there are very few options for 16 team tournaments. Had Chris stuck to the original 4 pools of 4, then splitting into top and bottom 8, or even going into full knockout (1v16, 2v15, etc.) would have meant far less games. Two halls can accommodate 20 teams pretty well and lead to better formats. I'm still reminiscing about having 50 teams playing in Plymouth. Enough moaning. It's only indoors. Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | Her husband was one of those blokes, the sort that only laughs at his own jokes. | The sort that war takes away. When there wasn't a war, he left anyway. |--- | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile phone and | never want to pay more than 5p per minute, or if you | are a BT customer and want 33%+ savings on all calls, | email me, and I'll tell you how. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 18:15:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA13210 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:15:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13199 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:15:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate02.e-mail.com (eugate02.e-mail.com [194.196.143.94]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01665 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:15:30 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id RAA166266 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:07:02 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:13:36 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBF3890F@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Nationals At Plymouth Last Weekend Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:13:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si I have to disagree, I think Chris chose the most suitable format for the event. It was a very competitive tournament with very few meaningless games: of Baboom's 8 games only in one was the margin of victory (theirs more often than ours) more than 3 points, and that was with 25 minute indoor games. Your arguement is bizaare at best: you're complaining that with pools of 8 one bad game effectively eliminates you from the tournament, so you want more knock-out games? As you say it's not a scientific study, but surely you want the best two teams in the final? Your "traditional" method doesn't even guarantee that, it's dependant on them being seeding well e.g. 2nd and 3rd seeds meet in the semi without having had the chance to improve their seeding. This tendancy to stick with familiar formats for the sake of it has blighted a number of tourmaments (particularly qualifiers where the objective is not to find the best team, but to fine the best x teams). In my opinion any format which reduces the effect of seedings is welcome. Alex All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 30 23:21:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA10711 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:20:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10704 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:20:46 +0100 (BST) From: phygga@cableinet.co.uk Received: from jaguars.cableinet.net (jaguars-int.cableinet.net [193.38.113.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16045 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:20:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 10166 invoked by uid 21); 30 Mar 2000 20:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO default) (213.48.36.56) by jaguars with SMTP; 30 Mar 2000 20:50:36 -0000 Message-ID: <38E3E192.747F@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:21:54 +0000 Reply-To: phygga@cableinet.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Practice tomorrow in Twickenham/Richmond? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, I sent out the following to people who I know are interested in playing Ultimate around Twickenham/Richmond area. It may be that not enough people turn up, but then we can go for a few drinks if that is the case. All standards are welcome, but I would just like to throw a Frisbee before I forget how. Joe Graves Zé, Northern Lights Socks, TFC > Are people still wanting a chuck around on a Friday afternoon? > > If so I thought that because the clocks have changed we could make it > 5:30, so those who are important and have proper jobs could make it. > Hopefully it will be slightly more successful than last week… Frisbee > is fun but on your own gets a little on the dull side. > > The venue was absolutely empty, so having space to play will be no > problem. If you could all respond to this anyway, and it will save me > sitting around for an hour if you decide not to come along. > > I hope to see you at 5:30, on Friday @ Old Deer Park (on the A316, > before you hit the Richmond Roundabout, going into London). > > Joe > > PS My yahoo account seems to be playing up, so the above address is my > home account. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 31 12:19:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA29262 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:16:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29253 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:15:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe17.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.121]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29412 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:15:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 54546 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Mar 2000 11:15:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000331111522.54545.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [193.10.240.47] From: "Carnegie Ultimate Sport Club" To: Subject: Fw: Dive Hard 2000, may 13-14 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:13:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0260_01BF9B12.EFD62A50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0260_01BF9B12.EFD62A50 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0261_01BF9B12.EFD62A50" ------=_NextPart_001_0261_01BF9B12.EFD62A50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_002_0262_01BF9B12.EFD62A50" ------=_NextPart_002_0262_01BF9B12.EFD62A50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Hello frisbee people! =20 13-14th of May is it time for the annual tournament Dive Hard IV (2000) = in G=F6teborg (Gothenburg), Sweden. 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------=_NextPart_000_0260_01BF9B12.EFD62A50-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 31 13:25:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA14735 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:23:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14725 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:23:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11762 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:22:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (pool2-pri1-025.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.155]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01270 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:35:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002e01bf9b0c$b53ab6a0$9ba492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Hyde Park - Bad Habits Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 13:29:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hyde Park 'Bad Habits' posse - are you out there? Please input your team onto the BUF website:- http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 31 16:38:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA03415 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:35:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03408 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:35:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07780 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:35:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12b3Tn-0006UC-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:36:59 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2A2D24MQ>; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:37:41 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAC73@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Dublin Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:32:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA03409 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Ticket for Dublin available including accommodation, tournament fees + travel - setting off Fri am return Mon PM - > £65 anyone interested - no peckers please. > Janitors Phone Arun or Ben 0113 224 9680 > arun.sharma@chorleys.co.uk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 31 21:24:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA27839 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:23:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27832 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:23:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26674 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:23:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12b7wb-0000Hg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:23:01 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12b7wa-0006Wl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:23:00 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:23:00 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE0271649D@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: dublin accomodation Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:22:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aright! We (discdoctors) have got a couple of spaces in our Dorm (what fun!) in Dublin for the nights of the 6th 7th 8th and 9th of april. If anyone needs somewhere to stay (its about 9 irish punts a night) then mail me back! tom (secretary, discdoctors) ps, if you wanna play with us too, then thas cool! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 1 22:34:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA02607 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:32:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02598 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:32:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29359 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:32:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.84.35] (helo=c9f5d8) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12bVUz-0000SA-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:32:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bf9c22$7a0da940$2354ac3e@c9f5d8> From: "Matthew Langfield" To: Subject: Players seeking team for tour Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 22:37:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF9C2A.DA7ABEA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF9C2A.DA7ABEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Two experienced players looking for a team for the tour. Jez and Matt formerly of Fingers 6 and Mwnci See, currently of Three = Frogs (Indoor), seeking an established team to join for the whole of the = outdoor season. Contact Jez: 113 Crofton St, Moss Side, Manchester M14 7ND. Phone (0161) 2249776. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF9C2A.DA7ABEA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Two experienced players looking for = a team for=20 the tour.
 
Jez and Matt formerly of Fingers 6 = and Mwnci=20 See, currently of Three Frogs (Indoor), seeking an established team to = join for=20 the whole of the outdoor season.
Contact Jez: 113 Crofton St, Moss = Side,=20 Manchester M14 7ND.
Phone (0161) 2249776.
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF9C2A.DA7ABEA0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Apr 2 21:46:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA19940 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:44:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19935 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:43:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08861 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:43:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from p96s09a03.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.169.151] helo=default) by sand2.global.net.uk with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12brDs-0005AW-00; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:43:52 +0100 Message-ID: <002001bf9ce3$b0c6efc0$97a993c3@default> From: "Lewis Glover" To: , Subject: Mini day tournie in London Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:29:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I am looking to organise a mini 4 team round robin league thingy on clapham common, london. The date is this Sunday, 9th April The time is from 12 onwards At the moment we have two teams playing of weak/meduim standard are any other teams interested?? UCL, Bad Habits, Angels, Albatross, Brunel, Bliss(?. I know you've got practice)....etc If any ones up for this give us a mail. Lewis (Sublime Patriots) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 3 07:49:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA24115 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24109 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25045 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA03262 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:47:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:47:00 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200004030647.HAA03262@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 8th April 2000 Dublin Outdoors (2 days) @ Dublin, Ireland [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://axiom-emg.net/pookas Contact Jamie Crick Email jamiecrick@excite.co.uk Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dive Hard IV (2000) (2 days) @ Gšteborg (Gothenburg), Sweden [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Bjšrn Johansson Email divehard2000@hotmail.com National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 3 11:13:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA03423 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03414 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from fizzle.bomb.co.uk (root@fizzle.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13473 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:11:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from barru (ip190.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.190]) by fizzle.bomb.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e33A3NL31998 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:03:28 +0100 Message-Id: <200004031003.e33A3NL31998@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:15:39 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Changes to WFDF rules In-Reply-To: <200004030647.HAA03262@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, New WFDF rules at: http://www.wfdf.org/2000ultirules.htm. Barry From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 3 12:58:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA09170 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:56:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09113 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:56:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18070 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:56:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:49:50 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:56:13 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E5D2@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Tour Rules and Entry Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:56:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, If you are a team contact, and your address was up to date on the mailing list (as repeatedly requested by Ben), and your postman is up to the job, then as of this morning you should have the tour rules and entry pack arriving on your doorstep. Do not delay. Read it carefully, send off your money go to the BUF or Ultim-8 website and roster your team, even if you are unrostered (perverse I know, but the rules explain it in more detail). There are important changes to the rules, and time is short. We will be playing to WFDF rules, so make sure you have read them - especially the changes (Don't drop the pull - again!) - as sent round by Barry (thank you) If you haven't received any information, and you are a team contact, please mail me your address so that I can send you a copy. DO NOT MAIL ME HERE - send your mail to cjhughes@talk21.com I do not have any copies at work, and hence will ignore your request. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 3 18:08:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA06251 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:07:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06239 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:07:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17153 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:07:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from p162-harc2-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.245.57] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12cAC1-0002xB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:59:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bf6f39$fe4336a0$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: looking for Cliff Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 18:00:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6F39.C5865F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6F39.C5865F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to get in touch with Cliff Bottomley. If anyone has an active = e-mail address for him, or knows if he's away at the moment, could you = please let me know. Thanks, Matt Swamp Donkeys ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6F39.C5865F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm trying to get in touch with Cliff = Bottomley. If=20 anyone has an active e-mail address for him, or knows if he's away at = the=20 moment, could you please let me know.
 
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Matt
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF6F39.C5865F40-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 3 18:20:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA08636 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:19:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08617 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:19:01 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17947 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:18:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15836; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:18:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (cobo.cgo.cargill.com [172.31.1.51]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16370; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:18:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA14437; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:18:25 +0100 (BST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:18:18 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000a01bf6f39$fe4336a0$a69cfea9@user> Subject: Re: looking for Cliff MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am still here just very busy at work at the moment. Cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 3 23:25:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA10718 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:23:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10709 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:23:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24543 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:23:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-24-217.host.btclick.com ([213.1.24.217]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000403222154.UVZC17714.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host213-1-24-217.host.btclick.com> for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:21:54 +0100 Received: by host213-1-24-217.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF9DC3.819E9320@host213-1-24-217.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:22:40 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF9DC3.819E9320@host213-1-24-217.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour Info Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:21:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id XAA10710 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, I have been informed, that my incompetence is finding new limits. The tour dates on the diary for Tour III are correct, the 24 & 25 June, NOT what is included in the tour pack. This makes the entry date 2 June. You may note that due to time constraints the tour entry dates for tour I and tour II are not three weeks in advance as the rules state they should. This is to give you a chance to enter in time. (PS entry deadline for Tour 1 is not in March - its April) Update: Contact details for Soton TD is; Neil Pennington nap197@soton.ac.uk I'm sure he'll let us on to the secret of his phone number eventually. Cheers Chris DoC Bear with me - I'm getting there! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 08:49:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA16699 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:47:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16693 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:47:27 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:44:50 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Vanessa White" Subject: Juniors and Student Womens Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id IAA16694 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Student Womens Ultimate have been given the opportunity to join the Junior Outdoor Tournament on May 13th and 14th 2000 Please let me know if there are any teams out that are interested in playing. There is the possibility of entering 4 to 6 teams. If you are unable to enter a team please let me know as I am happy to arrange a couple of hat/pick up teams together for the weekend. INFO: Costs £50 + plus £12 BUF tax Location: Longford Hall, Newport, Shropshire Accommodation: Camping available Friday and Saturday night Other info: No alcohol on site because it's a school. No camp fires please. Captain's meeting at 09:30, games starting at 10. Sunday games start at 9:30, presentations over by 17:00. If you are interested in playing or entering a team, please contact me by 28th April 2000. Many Thanks Vanessa White Womens Co-Ordinator From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 18:04:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA10954 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:02:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10947 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:02:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f168.hotmail.com [216.32.181.168]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA21119 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:01:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7725 invoked by uid 0); 4 Apr 2000 17:01:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000404170123.7724.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.25.171.13 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:01:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [24.25.171.13] From: "Aaron Pastor" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: looking for old ULTIMATUM Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:01:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hello, i'm looking for an old issue of ultimatum in which there's an article on *spirit of the game.* a photo that i want accompanies that article. any insight as to how i can go about getting this would be appreciated. i haven't subscribed to britdisc, so all replies should go direct to tiempo76@hotmail.com thanks aaron p.s. shout to ow ultimate 1997-98 i havent' totally fallen... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 20:57:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA18043 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:56:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18038 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:56:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtcmta04.totalserve.net ([213.27.0.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24309 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:56:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from default ([213.27.48.179]) by mtcmta04.totalserve.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FSICOG00.Q0Y for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:55:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01bf9e6f$903ae300$b3301bd5@default> From: "alastair findlay" To: Subject: STAFF AT WUCC99 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:54:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF9E77.F12CB8C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF9E77.F12CB8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would any staff from WUCC99 that would be up for entering a team into = one of the mixed tournaments that are coming up this season. please get = in contact with me. 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF9E77.F12CB8C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 4 22:47:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA08477 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:45:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08471 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:45:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.176]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01045 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:45:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-224.hydrogen.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.0.224] helo=hp-vl) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12cb8F-0002CK-00; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:45:08 +0100 From: "Joe McGrath" To: , Subject: Universities Regional Championships Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:44:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bf9e7e$f08fff60$e000883e@hp-vl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last weekend saw the first Universities Regional Team Championships. Results were 1. South-East Universities (SE XI) 2. Midlands Universities 3. London Universities (Discobolus) 4. South-West & Wales Universities 5. Scottish Universities (Team Bunnet) 6. Northern Universities (TFC) Scotland won Spirit Thanks to Pete for doing the schedule and trophies and thanks to Mike, Dan and Sian for putting people up and for driving people about. Lost Property 1 Asthma Inhaler Green and white Nike sweater Black Gap fleece bodywarmer 1 pair Adidas turf boots Orange Quiksilver hat Navy Denver Broncos Vest Black Regatta Trousers Grey Towel Green M&S fleece jacket I'll be at tour 1 and the student outdoors so mail me if any of this is yours... Cheers Joe From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 5 20:49:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA21859 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:45:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21854 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:45:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28359 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:45:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-40-191.host.btclick.com ([213.1.41.96]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000405194405.UNGI17714.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host213-1-40-191.host.btclick.com> for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:44:05 +0100 Received: by host213-1-40-191.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BF9F3F.CA5B4B80@host213-1-40-191.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:44:51 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF9F3F.CA5B4B80@host213-1-40-191.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Mohawks at Student Nationals Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:44:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk URGENT Can the organiser of student nationals, and Ben Crick from Mohawks please contact me. Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 13:02:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA27610 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:59:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26025 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:44:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11604 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:00:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23264 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:00:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from B62B-29.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62b-29.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.199]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e36A03f04356 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:00:03 +0100 (BST) From: jake Reply-To: jrnh197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 3- Southampton Outdoors. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:00:02 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA26030 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just an early note to say that the approximate cost for Tour 3 is more likely to be in the vicinity of £80 or £85 (rather than £70 as was suggested on the tour entry form). If i tell you now no one can shout at us later! Unluckily this year the university have decided to charge more for use of the facilities. Cheers Jake Skunks Secretary ---------------------- jake jrnh197@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 6 13:16:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA07374 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:15:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14479 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:57:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04486 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:56:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12d82R-0001Tg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:53:19 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2A2DJ45A>; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:54:07 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAC82@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Dublin Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:49:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA14532 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know its very late, but there is a ticket from Leeds to Dublin, including accommodation and tournament fees available setting off Friday morning morning. 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Registered no: 35596 BTSO/BURSA From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 7 09:05:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA29445 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:03:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29433 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:03:37 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:03:29 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Rimini flights from/to Stansted Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm not sure if others have been contacted by RyanAir about their change of flight times, but it seems that both outgoing and return times have been revised! What was: DEPART-> ARRIVE Outward 10:25 -> 13:50 is now 16:40 -> 20:05 Return 14:13 -> 15:40 is now 20:30 -> 21:55 Is anyone else travelling back on the flight on Tuesday 25 April? ... the late landing in Stansted will make it impossible for me to get back home by train - is anyone driving from Stansted (ideally towards the Midlands)?? Cheers Sam Neilson Chevron AF From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 10 07:55:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA00873 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:47:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00866 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:47:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09693 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA28363 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200004100647.HAA28363@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 15th April 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note the change of date. The 8 April practice was moved to allow people to attend the Dublin tournament - this move was made possible because Tour I was moved forward two weeks. Contact Relevant Division Manager Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dive Hard IV (2000) (2 days) @ Gšteborg (Gothenburg), Sweden [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Bjšrn Johansson Email divehard2000@hotmail.com National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 10 10:31:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA08063 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:30:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08045 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:30:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (root@caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29913 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:29:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26440 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:29:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (jpg2@localhost) by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA11465 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:29:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:29:49 +0100 (BST) From: Big Funky X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: BritDisc Subject: Kieran and Sam Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry about using Britdisc for this but I'm at a loss. Can somebody please give contact address for Kieran Taylor (Red) and Sam (Dundee). Thanks very much. Jon Good aka 'Big Funky' of 'Funkian', 'MTJAH', and 'Top Shelf Sleaze' aka 'Frank LeBoeuf' of BAF D.O.P.A. S.A.U. (underground) Wine Soc. Safety Officer S.A.U.U.F.C. - Flying Sorcerers * Also available at 'funky_like_a_train@hotmail.com' * J'ai mange de la vache enragee, tout les temps! BIG LOVE "Baby, Baby, Baby, you sure like to crochette." From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 10 13:43:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA25710 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:40:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25693 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:40:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay02.esat.net (relay02.esat.net [192.111.39.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23740 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:40:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailserver.sepro.ie (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay02.esat.net with smtp id 12edUS-0006wK-00; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:40:30 +0100 Received: from sepro_peter [192.168.1.145] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:38:42 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" , "EuroDisc" Subject: 5th Annual Dublin Open - Results Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:40:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bfa2e9$f12d49e0$9101a8c0@sepro_peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The fifth annual Dublin Open was a record breaking success, with 18 teams and players from the UK, Ireland, US, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Norway and South Africa. The weather on Saturday and Sunday was ideal (cool with some sun, and relatively calm, with enough wind to try out some zone-D on Sunday) Many thanks to all those who made the effort to travel to Dublin, especially our first every entrants from continental Europe, Foreign Tongue and Les Invalides. The results: 1) Foreign Tongue 2) Les Invalides 3) Janitors I 4) Pookas 5) Bears 6) Janitors II 7) Fish 8) Purple Haze 9) Farcity (Irish students) Plate winners 10) Angels 11) Mythago (Sprit Winners) 12) Imperial College 13) Jedi I 14) Fingers 15) Jedi II 16) Cardiff 17) UWE 18) Bears II See y'all next year, Dublin Pookas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 10 14:35:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA10120 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:33:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10112 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:33:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01180 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:33:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12eeJx-0001JX-00; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:33:41 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 10 Apr 00 14:33:41 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 10 Apr 00 14:33:28 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:33:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The deadline for giving first teams priority for the student outdoors has passed. I can now confirm that 27 places have already been taken up. The list of teams confirmed is as follows. Phat Eds Skunks Ow Jedi Bears Jesters Mythago Ro Sham Bo Fra Flung York Brunel Mwnci See Sublime Patriots Contact details required Picnic Superfly Mohawks Contact details required Purple Haze Contact details required Disciples Phat Eds 2 Skunks 2 Jedi 2 Bears 2 Bears 3 Jesters 2 Mythago 2 Ro Sham Bo 2 Mohawks 2 Thre are now only five spaces left and we still havent heard from a lot of teams ie Fingers 6, Flatball, Shooting Stars, Fish, Falling Skies, Strange Blue, Uriel, Imperial, UCL, Fubar, None of the Above No Frills, Northern Lights. Hopefully we'll be geting some more cheques arriving soon as it would be a shame if some of the teams who did so well indoors didn't get a chance to show that they could actually play where it counts. Confirmation, receipts as requested + directions, maps etc will be sent out shortly to the contacts you have stated. We need contacts from Sublime Patriots, Mohawks ( To us and not Chris Hughes please ) and Purple Haze. There is still time for those of you who want to come and haven't got yourself sorted and until it fills up cheques will be accepted up until the day of the tournament. Hopefully I'll hear from some of you soon. Don't hesitate to contact myself or Pete Coy if you have any questions. Rob From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 10 21:53:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA28833 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:51:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28816 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:51:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15177 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:51:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (pool2-pri1-008.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.138]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23251 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:03:52 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <092401bfa32f$76dabba0$a3a492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Deleting Your Team. Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:56:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having sifted through the BUF contact database It appears the following teams are defunct. If you know differently please let me know as I will be removing them shortly. If you know of any other dead teams which are listed on the database (http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/) please also tell me. Chaos Twin Peaks Hurricanes More Than Just a Hint Two Mile Ash Middle School Southampton Institute Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 11 15:23:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA25637 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:19:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25629 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:19:26 +0100 (BST) From: DFJK@aol.com Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03239 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:19:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from DFJK@aol.com by imo16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id 8.a5.453d331 (4425) for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:18:44 EDT Subject: looking for a london team To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 138 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi - apologies for using britdisc, but i'm hoping to practice with any london teams over the easter break - could any teams please send their training details over so i could turn up one day? cheers, dk fingers6/chevron action flash From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 11 21:13:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA27150 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:12:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27140 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:12:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA11222 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:12:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (cst371.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.47]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21336 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:11:29 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <38F386F0.6214C333@york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:11:28 +0100 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: GB Juniors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can Kevin Lowe and/or anyone else involved with GB Juniors please get in touch. Thankx Jaimie YBK, Swamp Donkeys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 11 21:42:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA02770 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:41:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02759 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:41:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from protactinium ([194.73.73.176]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12833 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:41:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from [213.1.84.37] (helo=8945cjm20378) by protactinium with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12f7TJ-00050A-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:41:17 +0100 Message-ID: <00cf01bfa3f5$b867f940$255401d5@8945cjm20378> From: "Laura Pearce" To: "britdisc" Subject: Another Euro tournament Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:01:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFA3F9.2B4CC960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFA3F9.2B4CC960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Britdisc Here is a copy of a message I received from Xlr8rs about another Euro = tournament Laura Xlr8rs Ixelles air raiders-Brussels frisbee club since 1978 13/03/2000 Dear Frisbee-players, Unfortunately,Rotterdam's Airbreakers decided not to organize the famous = =AB Harbour tournament =BB this year and without wanting to steal this = mythic ultimate event, XLR8RS has finally decided to organize a = tournament south of Brussel (40 km) in the middle of fields with the = accomodation on the site (camping,bar,food.). We propose you to spend =AB Ascension ? ? ? =BBholidays in the = countryside the 1st (Thursday),2nd and 3rd of June for an open outdoor = tournament. We propose you a phisical challenge (9 matches of 50 minutes = minimum),an hot atmosphere with concerts,dj's,games and a very fucking = tropical sun ! ! ! But we have only a little more than 2 months for the organization,and = it's also the 1st outdoor tourney we organize. So we will invite only 20 = teams and advice you to inscribe your team as quickly as possible. You = know =ABfirst paid,first served ! =BB. How much does the inscription cost ? Team-fee : 5.000bf (125 euros) Player-fee : 1.500bf(38 euros) Including : camping ,2 breakfasts,2 dinners (and ap=E9ro),the =AB party = =BB,a present and our LOVE . How to do the inscription ? - By letter : Jean-Bruno Pambou=20 Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles - By phone : Margreet / Jean-Bruno : 0032/2 344.14.13 - By mail : sprint.jb@skynet.be To confirm the inscription pay the Team-fee (5000 bf or 125 euros) = before the 1st of May to the Bank-account :795-5532060-42 of JB Pambou. = (Don't forget to precize your team's name) After the inscription all the information you need will be sent to you. So welcome to Belgium for a great tournament and to taste more than 300 = different kinds of beer ! ! ! xlr8rs ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFA3F9.2B4CC960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Britdisc

Here is a copy of a message I received = from Xlr8rs=20 about another Euro tournament

Laura

Xlr8rs

Ixelles air raiders-Brussels = frisbee club=20 since 1978

 

13/03/2000

Dear Frisbee-players,

Unfortunately,Rotterdam’s Airbreakers decided not to organize = the famous=20 =AB Harbour tournament =BB this year and without wanting to = steal this=20 mythic ultimate event, XLR8RS has finally decided to = organize a=20 tournament south of Brussel (40 km) in the middle of fields with the=20 accomodation on the site (camping,bar,food…).

We propose you to spend = =AB Ascension ? ? ? =BBholidays=20 in the countryside the 1st (Thursday),2nd and=20 3rd of June for an open outdoor tournament. We propose you a = phisical=20 challenge (9 matches of 50 minutes minimum),an hot atmosphere with=20 concerts,dj’s,games and a very fucking tropical = sun ! ! !

But we have only a little more than 2 months for the organization,and = it’s=20 also the 1st outdoor tourney we organize. So we will invite = only 20=20 teams and advice you to inscribe your team as quickly as possible. You=20 know =ABfirst paid,first served ! =BB.

How much does the inscription cost ?

Team-fee : 5.000bf (125 euros)

Player-fee : 1.500bf(38 euros)

Including : camping ,2 breakfasts,2 dinners (and = ap=E9ro),the=20 =AB party =BB,a present and our LOVE .

How to do the inscription ?

- By letter : Jean-Bruno Pambou

Rue F.Neuray 59

1050 Bruxelles

- By phone : Margreet / Jean-Bruno : 0032/2 344.14.13

- By mail : sprint.jb@skynet.be

To confirm the inscription pay the Team-fee (5000 bf or 125 euros) = before the=20 1st of May to the Bank-account :795-5532060-42 of = JB=20 Pambou. (Don’t forget to precize your team’s name)

After the inscription all the information you need will be sent to=20 you.

So welcome to Belgium for a great tournament and to taste more than = 300=20 different kinds of beer ! ! !

 

xlr8rs

------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BFA3F9.2B4CC960-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 11 23:05:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA21223 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:04:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21210 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:04:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (mta@smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18495 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:04:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultilinks.com ([204.210.5.243]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:04:15 -0700 Message-ID: <38F3A0C6.C5704F17@ultilinks.com> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:01:42 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] Free Tournament Home Page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello friendly ultimate players. In our constant struggle to make your life easier, we came up with something you might really like. Now you can create and maintain a fully functional web site for your tournament, quickly and easily, right on ultilinks. Want to see an example? Go visit: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/sample/ You get an easy to remember web address (like www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/yourtourny), all the pages you need, plus a counter, an automated team and single player registration form, a guestbook, and much more. It's all customizable but at the same time really easy to maintain, no HTML knowledge required. So if your tournament is coming up, go check it out! Here's the address: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ If you want to play around with it to test it, DO NOT create a new page, but simply edit the sample page, the password for it is: sample For any question/comment, just mailto:peldi@ultilinks.com See you on the beach! Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 11 23:20:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA24700 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:18:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24684 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:18:17 +0100 (BST) From: cwags@trade-indemnity.com.au Received: from SydGate1.qbe.com.au ([203.0.73.235]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19026 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:18:05 +0100 (BST) Received: by SydGate1.qbe.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id CA2568BE.0079C989 ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:10:14 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: TIAL@QBE To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, nsw-ultimate@egroups.com, aus-ultimate@egroups.com cc: "Brenda Moore" Message-ID: <4A2568BE.0079DEF0.00@SydGate1.qbe.com.au> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:15:09 +1000 Subject: Goaltimate airing! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk See below. The day has come for the Goaltimate to get shown on ESPN. If anyone has friends in the US you may want them to record this for you, if you are interested in what Goaltimate is all about. Colin. ---------------------- Forwarded by Colin Wagstaff/TIAL on 12/04/2000 08:14 --------------------------- rick conner on 12/04/2000 07:07:57 To: Colin Wagstaff/TIAL cc: Subject: Goaltimate airing! SET YOUR VCRs and tune in to espn2 for the Goaltimate Phase II tournament coverage on ?Athletes In Motion? airing this Wednesday, April 12th at 2:30PM PDT, 4:30PM CDT and 5:30PM EDT. The ?Athletes In Motion? show about Goaltimate will also air on Saturday, April 15th at 8:30AM PDT, 10:30AM CDT and 11:30AM EDT. The show is fun to watch and we are extremely pleased with the results. A lot of hard work was put in by players, organizers and the ESPN production crew to make it what Jay Higgins, Co-captain of the Santa Barbara Condors, says ?was the most competitive and physical frisbee game I have ever witnessed - UPA/WFDF Ultimate Championship games included!? After watching the show, please give ESPN a call at 860-585-2000 to let them know you would like to see more Goaltimate on the air. We have revamped our website with more pictures and streaming video from the Phase II tourney located at www.goaltimate.com. Please put you comments in the guest book plus check out our Corporate Sponsorship page. A huge thank you goes out to all the people who continue to support us worldwide! Stay tuned for new announcements on upcoming tournaments for the exciting Sport of the New Millennium, Goaltimate! Rick Conner 877-GOAL123 - toll free From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 11 23:25:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA25715 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:23:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25705 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:23:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20585 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:23:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.159.142.68 [212.159.136.100] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk); Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:22:46 +0100 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Tue, 11 Apr 00 23:22:46 +0100 Message-ID: <38F3A5F2.10B@totalise.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:23:49 +0100 From: jack goolden Reply-To: jgoolden@totalise.co.uk Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-VM711-000 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brit disc Subject: lift to bridgenorth Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anybody going from London to the 'exhibition' game Bridgenorth on the 16th? I'm looking for a lift jack chevron ------ Jack Goolden www.malago.co.uk jgoolden@totalise.co.uk 01743 270262 mobile 07968 720331 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 02:10:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id CAA06777 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:08:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06772 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:08:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (root@spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.24]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28001 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:08:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by spuggie.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA25931 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:08:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from Beastage.brad.ac.uk (max-155.dial.brad.ac.uk [143.53.239.155]) by kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA10172 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:08:42 +0100 (BST) From: Nicolas Mackin To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Bradford Indoor Cup Results Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:09:14 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1 Build (3) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry I'm a little slow with this. What can I say in my defence except I've been recovering from excesses on the pitch and (especially) at the party! First of all, a comment on our unorthodox league system: Sorry to all of you who wanted a final, but (personally) I thought it worked quite well, especially 'cause it meant I got to play all of you. Although, the downside to this is that it meant that you all had to endure Disciples' pathetic calls (sorry!) Anyway, to get to the point, the final positions were: 10) BOB (Bradford Old Boys) 9) Swamp Donkeys 8) Disciples 7) Far Flung 6) Slipdisc 5) Northern Lights 4) Hulltimate 3) Strangeways 2) Barry and the Tigers (Last Year's BOB) 1) Red Spirit: Strangeways Other Prizes: Shark - Paul (Red) Tit of the Tournie - Little Jon (BOB) Fantasy Frisbee - suspicious fantasy team captain Dave (Northern Lights) 3 Pint Challenge - Jon and Ben (Disciples) Basically, it seemed to be enjoyed by all, even though people did voice concerns at the fact that there was no final. However, you got the Fantasy Frisbee on the Saturday which I thought was brilliant, except for the fact that I got a score of -1 (sorry to all of you who picked me: I had enough sense not to!). As you may have noticed, there were video cameras about (one of which was ours). Although there aren't that many games covered and it's not the greatest footage in the world, we'd like to share it with you. Send me an email about it if you'd like us to send you a copy. >From memory, the games covered are: Barry v Red, BOB v Disciples, Barry v Hulltimate, Disciples v Strangeways, Barry v Disciples, Barry v Strangeways (and more I think, but I could be totally wrong). Thankfully there's very little lost property (that we've found so far anyway): Asthma Inhaler Black Wooly Hat New York Yankees Cap Finally, thanks very much for coming along and making it such great fun. Hopefully this will become an annual event and we're looking forward to seeing y'all again next time. Cheers, Nick + the rest of the Disciples, Bradford Old Boys, Barry and his Tigers ----------------------- Nicolas Mackin N.Mackin@bradford.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 10:02:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA23841 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:01:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23830 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:01:04 +0100 (BST) From: Gussvictor@aol.com Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17874 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:01:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from Gussvictor@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id a.9b.38f3ff6 (3967); Wed, 12 Apr 2000 04:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9b.38f3ff6.262594ef@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 04:59:27 EDT Subject: Missing Trousers To: ClaphamBullfrogs@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone leave a pair of khaki trousers and a brown leather belt at last night's Clapham practice? I picked them up as I was leaving last night. Please let me know. Thanks, Vic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 16:04:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA06902 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:00:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06890 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:00:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from congo.cherwell.com (mailhost.cherwell.com [193.82.249.202]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23614 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:00:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.231]) by congo.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61953U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:00:02 +0100 Message-ID: <017201bfa48f$c73ebf40$e7f952c1@cherwell.com> From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: contacts request Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:00:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk anyone got Damian Mudge's email please. (did have it but my account got wiped. bummer) Paul --- Dr. Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784820 Cherwell Scientific Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford Science Park | http://www.cherwell.com/ OX4 4GA, UK | http://www.chemsymphony.com/ --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 21:43:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA29321 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29314 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17002 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12fTx1-000Oxw-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:27 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:38:56 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I - Swindon - Accommodation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tour 1 website: http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u00tour1/ There are now three accommodation options for the Tour event at Swindon on 29 & 30 April 2000: 1) Campsite, a 5 minute walk from the pitches; 2) Rooms (only 100 singles) on site; 3) DIY - Find yourself a Bed & Breakfast / Hotel 1) CAMPSITE As in previous years, we've arranged for a campsite. See the tournament website for details 2) ROOMS The venue for Tour 1 has agreed that they actually DO have some rooms (approx 100) available for the Saturday night of the tournament. They are SINGLE rooms, with en suite bathrooms (bath with shower), and colour TV. They cost GBP 30.00 each for Bed and Breakfast. Breakfast (not sure what exactly, but eggs were mentioned!) will (currently) commence at 07:00 Sunday morning - Note: Games are likely to commence at 09:00 Sunday morning (!) To book: [Do this ***BEFORE*** WEDNESDAY 26 APRIL 2000] Call 01793-791000 and ask for Debbie Lea, or Helen Baker. Mention that you're with the Frisbee Tournament. They will require the names (one person per room), and possibly credit/payment card details. Payment will be taken when you arrive for your room. If you want to try negotiating more than one person to a room, it wasn't my idea, and be prepared for refusal! Anyone that attempts to sneak 3) DIY Call Swindon Tourist Information Centre (01793-530328 or 466454) and get them to send you their "Short Breaks 2000" guide, which includes a list of B+Bs/Hotels*. Or try using Scoot, http://www.scoot.co.uk/ or Yellow Pages, http://www.yell.co.uk/ The tournament venue is in the Wanborough / Liddington area, 5 miles or so SouthEast of Swindon. * There are scans of these on the tournament website. Warning: the website and scans are a bit rough! Tour 1 website: http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u00tour1/ Regards Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@eGroups.com +44/0-1737-242109 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 12 21:43:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA29380 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29365 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19034 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12fTx1-000Oxx-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:41:28 +0100 Message-ID: <1+YABYAP8N94Ewl+@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:39:43 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I info MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Chris hasn't yet sent me a list of teams that have entered Tour 1... hopefully he's confirming that he has received your cheques/entries as and when they land on his doormat. There's a rough and (nearly) ready tournament website at http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u00tour1/ containing directions to the venue, and some info on accommodation. (Also see my other BritDisc mail about accommodation) I've also scanned (though I'm unsure as to the quality!) and posted the B+B list that appears in the Swindon Tourist Office brochure "Swindon Short Breaks 2000" To obtain a copy of this brochure, call Swindon Tourist Office on 01793-530328 or 466454 Note: We have no Saturday evening food or social event planned. There are several pubs within close range, though the usual 'local' (Shepherd's Rest) is closed on Saturday for a private Wedding reception. As yet we can't tell you anything about the number of teams and/or format... entries are still arriving! Be there for a 9am Captain's meeting! Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@eGroups.com +44/0-1737-242109 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 13 00:06:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA26744 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:05:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26736 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:05:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27277 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:05:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-48-82.host.btclick.com ([213.1.3.80]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000412230412.WXLO25243.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-1-48-82.host.btclick.com> for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:04:12 +0100 Received: by host213-1-48-82.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFA4DB.CB28B920@host213-1-48-82.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:04:10 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFA4DB.CB28B920@host213-1-48-82.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour 1 Entrants Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:04:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id AAA26739 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following teams have successfully entered Tour 1, by paying the entrance fee and Deposit. SOUP MUD CULTURE GB WOMEN RO-SHAM-BO MILD MANNERED JANITORS (2 Teams) STRANGE BLUE SHEFFIELD CARDIFF ALLIANCE FLUID DRUIDS JEDI DEEP SOUTH MENTALITY HEADRUSH BAF (2 Teams) DOUGHBOY FEVER HAMMERAGE OXFORD SHARKS SLIPDISC SKUNKS POINT BLANK YORKIE BAR KIDS GB JUNIORS Details are en route. For those of you whose name is not on this list, closing date for entry to the event is 14 April. In other words Friday. Only cheques made payable to Layout Dreams for 75, accompanied by a BUF deposit of 15 made payable to the BUF will secure entry. There are some noticeable exceptions to this list. Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 13 14:42:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA27597 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:38:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27586 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:38:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17807 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:38:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-1.sbs.demon.net ([193.195.0.131]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12fjoi-000CKX-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:37:56 +0100 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 12fjoi-000K6l-00; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:37:56 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <23Q4RAXB>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:34:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: FW: travel news.. GB teams. Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:34:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those folks travelling to GB training this weekend. Just had this news given to me. M1 closed around Northampton from tomorrow PM thru sunday. Make plans or be late. Max From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 13 21:47:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA12239 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:46:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12229 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:46:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15364 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:46:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-046.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.176]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA23483 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:46:55 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <067b01bfa58a$434f3ec0$9aa492c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Leicester Summer Sessions Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:18:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WHEN? 7pm Tuesdays, starting May 2nd WHERE? Victoria Park, Leicester (by the war memorial) CONTACT? Ben on 07703 460866 for details/directions. Relaxed Ultimate throughout the Summer with an emphasis on learning, enjoying & drinking (in the Old Horse beer garden afterwards!). How near is Leicester? For these cities its within an hour by car/train: Sheffield, Derby, Nottingham, Birmingham, Northampton, Milton Keynes, Coventry. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 13 23:38:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA03563 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:37:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03553 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:37:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28198 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:37:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-039.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.169]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA26460 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:37:40 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <062701bfa599$b9c5f1c0$a9a492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Publicising Ultimate Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 23:41:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Previous media coverage of ultimate has undoubtedly helped get more people playing. How many freshers cited the Channel 4 documentary as their first place they saw the sport? If you work in the media/PR industry or know of ways to promote the game more effectively we'd like you to join the BUF publicity list. We would be especially keen to hear from people who can actually help out with publicity projects. To subscribe, write to ultimate.publicity-subscribe@listbot.com Once the server has sent you a verification email, use ultimate.publicity@listbot.com to actually write to the list. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 14 13:02:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA03885 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:57:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03875 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:57:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09830 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:57:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:58:01 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:57:35 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E5FB@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: T1 Update Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:57:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following teams have now also entered T1 Bears Superfly / Hazefly (2 Teams) Red Swamp Donkeys The Team Formerly Known As Catch22 Today is the closing date:, and this list includes todays post - Maybe UTI and ChevronAF's cheques are in the second delivery, or maybe last years nationals finalists think they are so good that they can still win without even entering. Could be interesting! Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 14 13:42:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA15175 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:39:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15161 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:39:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10668 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:07:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12g4sy-0004pV-00; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:07:44 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 14 Apr 00 13:07:44 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 14 Apr 00 13:07:38 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:07:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All I have now recieved cheques from 32 teams for the student outdoors. As it stande this means it is full. The initial capacity of 24 has already been raised to cope with the huge interest which has been seen throughout all student competitions this year. To those of you who wish to enter but haven't got their cheques in on time don't give up. It's always the way that a number of teams will drop out especially with the amount of second teams involved. In particular here I'm talking about Fingers6, No Frills, Fish, Shooting Stars, Strange Blue amd UCL all of whom have at one stage expressed an interest. As there have been no qualifiers I am also looking at expanding the tournament further to included everyone although the scheduling could prove difficult. Information will be sent out to all the entered teams shortly 1. Phat Eds 2. Skunks 3. Ow 4. Jedi 5. Bears 6. Jesters 7. Mythago 8. Ro Sham Bo 9. Far Flung 10. Yorkie Bar Kids 11. Brunel Falcons 12. Mwnci See 13. Sublime Patriots 14. Picnic 15. Superfly 16. Mohawks 17. Purple Haze 18. Disciples 19. Disc Doctors 20. Northern Lights 21. Uriel 22. Flatball Project 23. Falling Skies 24. Phat Eds 2 25. Skunks 2 26. Jedi 2 27. Bears 2 28. Bears 3 29. Jesters 2 30. Mythago 2 31. Ro Sham Bo 2 32. Mohawks 2 Again please don't give up if you're not on there. Rob ( Phat Eds, DSM ) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 15 00:48:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA06992 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:46:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06986 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:46:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20647 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 00:46:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12gFmi-000NfG-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:46:01 +0000 Message-ID: <7NGs7CAQF494EwXI@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:36:32 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Layout Dreams Reply-To: Layout Dreams Subject: Re: T1 Update References: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E5FB@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E5FB@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Information packs went into the post on Friday night (for Saturday a.m. collection) to the contacts of the 23 teams on Chris' earlier list... All of the information enclosed can be found at the tournament website http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/u00tour1/ The snail-mailed packs contain better quality photocopies of the scans that are in the "guide" directory... Info packs for the 6 teams on todays list will be snail-mailed after the weekend. Wayne HUGHES, Chris writes >The following teams have now also entered T1 > >Bears >Superfly / Hazefly (2 Teams) >Red >Swamp Donkeys >The Team Formerly Known As Catch22 > _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@eGroups.com +44/0-1737-242109 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Apr 16 16:18:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA24856 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:13:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24849 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:13:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01745 for ; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:13:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12gqjd-0005Yr-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:13:17 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12gqjd-00010w-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:13:17 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: swindon B+B's Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:13:17 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In case anyone is looking for accommodation near Swindon on Friday 28th April, the following two B+B's both have vacancies: Mrs Saddler, Ducks Bridge, Bury Croft Road (nr the Cross Keys pub) Lower Wanborough, 01793 790 338. Mrs Rosier, Iris Cottage, 790 591. yours David Strange Blue From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 17 07:55:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA13237 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:47:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13232 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19146 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29218 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200004170647.HAA29218@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Friday 21st April 2000 Paganello Beach Ultimate (4 days) @ Rimini, Italy [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.paganello.com/ Contact Peldi Saturday 22nd April 2000 Belgian Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Namur, Belgium [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dive Hard IV (2000) (2 days) @ Gšteborg (Gothenburg), Sweden [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Bjšrn Johansson Email divehard2000@hotmail.com National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 18 10:19:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA25868 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:17:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25859 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:17:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from trolley.tesco.net (trolley.tesco.net [194.73.73.166]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03075 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:17:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.71.40] (helo=ianstebb) by trolley.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12hU7Q-0002ip-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:16:28 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01bfa917$2b198d20$28478cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Co-ed series 2000 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:17:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Co-ed series IS goingt o happen. Event sites are still being finalized, but expect the first event at the end of May. So find some women or men (whichever you lack) and get playing!!! So far, here's how the schedule looks- but this is still being finalized- May 27-28: somewhere South, maybe London, maybe Southampton July ??: Leicester August 26-27: Nottingham Nationals in September: Leicester As soon as I the details are firmer, I'll let you know. Come play! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 18 11:01:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA04326 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:58:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04320 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:58:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05129 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:58:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23271 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:18 +0200 Message-ID: <38FC3CF9.78DCCBA2@paganello.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:17 +0200 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc Subject: Paganello 2000: la Dolce Vita Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aloha! Paganello2000: 21-24 April 2000 1200 Beach Ultimate Lovers 80 Teams 18 Nations 10 Fields 3 Continents 1 Beach http://www.paganello.com/eng/paga2000/webcam.html ...and all the rest! The web site will be regularly updated throughout the tournament. _Jumpi "Do it with your lover, do it with your friend, but do it in the sand!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 18 12:49:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA25987 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25977 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15285 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:05 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:46:03 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: co-ed 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA25980 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I may be available to play pickup on the co-ed tour this summer, so if anyone is in need of a player please let me know. Matt Lowe Work: Matthewl@fisher.co.uk Home: Matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 18 12:59:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA28353 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:57:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28344 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:57:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.doubleclick.net (relay2.doubleclick.net [199.95.209.112]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11804 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:56:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.doubleclick.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay2.doubleclick.net (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20267 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bugs.doubleclick.net (BUGS.doubleclick.net [172.16.100.37]) by relay2.doubleclick.net (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20263; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bugs.doubleclick.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2BD9K6VR>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:56:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crick, Jamie" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "Dirk Metzger (E-mail)" Subject: For the attention of Barry O'Kane, Iain & Brendan Cuilhuddy, Simo n Barry, Challis & Dirk Diggler Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:56:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BFA92D.1A96B4D0" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BFA92D.1A96B4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Guys, We need to get your money and photos off to Worlds asap, so please can you send them directly to the organisers in Germany? If you have any questions email Heather at hkillian@ITGEurope.COM . Other info below. Cheers, Jamie aka Chops, Pookas -----Original Message----- From: simon cocking [SMTP:simoncocking@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 12:38 PM To: jcrick@doubleclick.net Subject: Fwd: can you put this on brit disc for attention of barry o kane, iain & brendan cuilhuddy (?), simon barry, challis & dirk if he's coming esp cos they need to send their money and fotos to ger - tell them to do it directly no point sending it to ireland and then germany >From: hkillian@ITGEurope.COM >To: Simon >, jcrick@doubleclick.net >Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:43:40 +0100 > >Jamie >I included you on this because you are the only open player that I know >reads >there email quite often.. > >The open team needs to get this info together. I'm gone for Rimini and >since >it's due by the end of this month, you guys are more likely to get it done. >(See attached file: OPEN_ROSTER.XLS) > >Simon - you need to collect pictures for your players. And accomodation / >food >options need to be sorted and paid for. They are looking for accomodation >confirmation right now - so the sooner the better. > > >Accomodations > >Tent City > >? Bring you own tent > >Distance to fields: 0 - 300 meters >Transportation: organized bus or by foot >Single DM: 120 per person (for 8 nights) >Double DM: not available. >Total nr. of beds available: approx. 150 >Nr. of nights: 8; Saturday night to Saturday night >Breakfast included: No >Dinner included: No >Additional info/features: >This option is directly at the fields. You will need to provide your own >tent >sleeping bag and floor mat. Showers and toilet facilities available. > > >Tent City - Tent provided > >Distance to fields: 0 - 300 meters >Transportation: organized bus or by foot >Single DM: 200 per person (for 8 nights) >Double DM: not available. >Total nr. of beds available: approx. 200 >Nr. of nights: 8; Saturday night to Saturday night >Breakfast included: No >Dinner included: No >Additional info/features: >This option is directly at the fields. We will provide the tents in which >15 - >20 people will sleep. You will need to provide sleeping bag and floor mat. >Showers and toilet facilities available. > >Schlachthof ? Old Slaughter House > >Distance to fields: 1000 meters >Transportation: organized bus or by foot >Single DM: 300 ((for 8 nights) incl. 8 breakfast and 5 dinner- see >food > options below) >Double DM: not available. >Total nr. of beds available: 150 >Nr. of nights: 8; Saturday night to Saturday night >Breakfast included: Yes >Dinner included: Yes >Additional info/features: >This option is at the old slaughter facility next to the cafeteria where >breakfast and dinner will be served. Very close to the Volksfest (Fair) and >the >main train station. Bedding will not be provided so bring your sleeping bag >and >floor mat. Similar to sleeping in a gymnasium. Both breakfast and dinner >will be >?all you can eat? with an evening buffet. Showers available at the fields >only, >toilet facilities available. > >This option is only available as a complete package of sleeping , breakfast >and >dinner! Included are 8 nights beginning on Saturday night and ending >Saturday night, 8 breakfasts and >5 dinners. Additional nights will be available one day before and one night >after at a rate of >DM 20 per night (no meals included). > >Student dormitory > >Distance to fields: 800 - 1000 meters >Transportation: organized bus or by foot >Single DM: not available >Double DM: 280 per person (for 8 nights) >Total nr. of beds available: 200 - 300 depending on the number of rooms >not > being rented by students. A minimum of 200 beds (100 >rooms) > has been guaranteed >Nr. of nights: 8; can be reserved for the entire month of August! >Breakfast included: No >Dinner included: No >additional info/features: >All rooms with shared toilet, showers and kitchen. This option can be >booked for >the entire month of August. Please contact the organizing committee for >details. >All rooms are outfitted with one bed only. One sleeping bag with floor mat >will >be required for the second person. We have decided to offer only double >occupancy to improve the price and assure enough room for as many as >possible. >There are units with one bedroom (two players), units with 2 bedrooms (four >players) and units with four bedrooms (eight players). The rooms with 4 >bedrooms >have two separate toilets with shower. Each unit has a kitchenette and a >small >dining area available. > >Youth Hostel > >Distance to fields: 5000 meters >Transportation: organized bus, public transportation or by car >Single DM: 300 (per person for 8 nights; 6 - 10 beds per >room) >Multiple DM: not applicable >Total nr. of beds available: 100 >Nr. of nights: 8; Saturday night to Saturday night - longer if >reserved >Breakfast included: Yes, kitchen support expected >Dinner included: No >Additional info/features: >clean and comfortable, 6 - 10 beds in a room, central toilet and shower >facilities, no smoking, support in the kitchen after breakfast expected. no >room >service, lights out at a decent hour! > >This is a great place for families and teams that want their peace and >quiet at >a reasonable price. Transportation to the fields in the morning and at >specific >times during the day is included in this price. > > > > >Hotels > >Distance to fields: 1000 - 2000 meters >Transportation: organized bus, public transportation or by car >Single DM/Night: > Upper Class Hotel 145 (for one person per night) > Middle Class Hotel 120 > Comfort Hotel 95 >Double DM/Night: > Upper Class Hotel 195 (for two persons per night) > Middle Class Hotel 150 > Comfort Hotel 125 >Total nr. of beds available: 500 >Nr. of nights available: 8; longer if reserved >Breakfast included: Yes >Dinner included: No >Additional info/features: >Close to train station, in city center, shower in room, telephone, cable TV >and >more depending on Hotel classification. These prices have been negotiated >and >will not be available if booked directly. Bus transportation will be >organized >to assure that you get to your first game on time! There will be no >additional >cost for this daily service and is included in the player fee. > >Foods Options > >A buffet ?All you can eat? meal plan will be offered at the so-called Old >Slaughter House (capacity 700). 8 breakfasts and 5 dinners will be included >in >this meal plan. Transportation from all official locations will be >provided. >Vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian diets will be catered to. This is not >a >cafeteria so do not expect assembly line food! The food will be good and >plentiful. Drinks are not included. Please inform us if there are any >special >dietary requests from your country. We will try our best to meet all >requests. >The meal schedule will be as follows: >Sunday - Sunday; Breakfast (8x) >Sunday ? Thursday; Dinner (5x) > >On one of these five nights you and your team can choose from one the 6 >different restaurants located at our partner clubs directly at the fields. >Each >individual who has a meal plan will receive a coupon to eat at restaurants >offering Italian, German, Turkish, or Greek specialties. > >On Friday and Saturday night there will be no meal plan at the Old >Slaughterhouse! On these nights you will be eating at you own cost. See >?Events? >below! > >Meal Plan Price: DM 160.00 > >For those staying in hotels (breakfast included) and any others - the >dinner >meal plan as well as the breakfast meal plan will be sold separately. > >Breakfast Mealplan: DM 90.00 (8x) >Dinner Mealplan: DM 80.00 (5x) > > >_____________________________________________________ > >The information in this e-mail and in any attachments is confidential and >intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This >information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and >further >distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are >not >the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, >copy, >distribute, or retain this message or any part of it, and should notify us >immediately. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com <> ------_=_NextPart_000_01BFA92D.1A96B4D0 Content-Type: application/vnd.ms-excel; name="OPEN_ROSTER.XLS" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OPEN_ROSTER.XLS" Content-Description: Microsoft Excel 97 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAIgAAAAAAAAAA EAAA/v///wAAAAD+////AAAAACEAAAD///////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// 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Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:34:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com ([213.1.56.6]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000418123331.BPEZ24326.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:33:31 +0100 Received: by host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFA93A.B33D4E80@host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:33:37 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFA93A.B33D4E80@host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour 1 Entry Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:23:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA08540 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following teams have entered T1 successfully. If you have entered and your name is not on the list, please contact me. If you wish to enter this is your final chance. Contact me NOW. I am aware that Mohawks wish to enter, if any other team is interested, then let me know. Don't just send off your cheque as I will attempt to finalise the schedule over the weekend. Chris Teams entered in no particular order. SOUP MUD CULTURE GB WOMEN RO-SHAM-BO MILD MANNERED JANITORS (2) STRANGE BLUE SHEFFIELD CARDIFF ALLIANCE FLUID DRUIDS JEDI DEEP SOUTH MENTALITY HEADRUSH BAF (2) DOUGHBOY FEVER HAMMERAGE OXFORD SHARKS SLIPDISC SKUNKS POINT BLANK YORKIE BAR KIDS GB JUNIORS BEARS SUPERFLY / HAZEFLY (2) UTI ANGELS SWAMP DONKEYS TTFKACATCH22 RED CHEVRON ACTION FLASH From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 18 13:37:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA08642 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:35:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08632 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:35:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20547 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:34:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com ([213.1.56.6]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000418123351.BITU23123.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:33:51 +0100 Received: by host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFA93A.BED52420@host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:33:56 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFA93A.BED52420@host213-1-56-6.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: BUF Discs Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:29:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA08633 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We have placed an order for discs, and expect them to arrive before T1. So if anyone wishes to order discs please mail me. Cost: 5gbp for school teams, 6gbp for 10 or more 7gbp for less than ten. (orders for ten or more can be sent out by post, and p&p will be added) All the discs are white with a variety of couloured designs. If you are going to T1, you can collect your order there. No discs will be sent out before T1. I need to know; Name Address to send discs Address to send invoice (if different) How many discs Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 18 21:20:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA17100 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:18:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17091 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:18:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25560 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:18:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.82.14] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12heQl-0001eC-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:17:07 +0100 Message-ID: <005901bfa973$75781380$0e528cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed series confirmed tournaments Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:13:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having chased some hardworking team contacts- I can now confirm two Mixed series events: June 3-4: Cambridge August 26-27: Nottingham Details of how to enter will follow soon. Come play!!! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 00:20:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA24834 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:18:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24794 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24741 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12hhFh-000AVL-0Y; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:54 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:05:18 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: Layout Dreams Mailing List From: Layout Dreams Reply-To: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour 1 - Local Pubs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here's the content of a letter that I've recently sent to the pubs (see the list at the end) that are local to the tournament. Please note that the pubs will now be aware that you might be coming, and that I have therefore made you all ambassadors for the sport of Ultimate. If there's any trouble, it will be blamed on "those Ultimate players". I don't expect anyone to start anything, but don't get involved in any trouble. Security: There's also now the chance that we may get some spectators. Unfortunately this will also increase the inherent security risk, so please ensure that you know that all your valuables are always somewhere safe (from bitter experience I'd suggest that "in a tent" is not necessarily "somewhere safe") - don't leave your gear lying around unattended where any "undesirables" might remove it... On the other hand, don't get paranoid. Wayne --- letter --- Dear Sir ULTIMATE FRISBEE TOURNAMENT - 29 & 30 APRIL 2000 We shall be hosting an Ultimate tournament at King Edward's Place (Allied Dunbar's Training and Conference Centre) on the above dates, and expect between three hundred and four hundred players to attend and participate. I thought it best to warn the local Public Houses that there is the distinct possibility that many of these players may visit the local hostelries seeking food and refreshment, particularly on Saturday evening. In our past experience, somewhere between twenty-five and seventy-five players meet at the Shepherds Rest on Friday evening. On the Saturday evening we usually have use of the Dining Hall and Bar at King Edward's Place, but I have heard that many of the players favour the local Public Houses. I have been advised that both the Bar at King Edward's Place and the Shepherds Rest are unable to accommodate us on the Saturday evening, and have advised the players accordingly. I would therefore expect more of our players to visit the local Public Houses. Unfortunately, I can predict neither numbers, nor which Public Houses they will visit. Hopefully, you will be able to take whatever action you feel appropriate. I trust that you will not be inconvenienced by any of the players. Yours faithfully Wayne Retter for and on behalf of Layout Dreams --- pub list --- NB: If you want to know where any of these pubs are, I'd suggest using http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ and searching for the Post Codes. The maps at Streetmap seem much improved in detail recently. The Worthington The Drive, Swindon, Wiltshire SN2 2RR The Fox & Pheasant Public House Covingham Square, Swindon, Wiltshire SN3 5AA Sun Inn Coate, Swindon, Wiltshire SN3 6AA The Liden Arms Liden Centre, Swindon, Wiltshire SN3 6HP Cross Keys Inn 5 Burycroft, Wanborough, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0AP The Shepherds Rest Foxhill, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0DR The Brewers Arms High Street, Wanborough, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0EA The Calley Arms High Street, Wanborough, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0EA The Harrow Inn High Street, Wanborough, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0EA The Plough Inn Marlborough Road, Badbury, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0EP The Village Inn Bell Lane, Liddington, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0HE Patriots Arms 6 New Road, Chisledon, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0LU The Elm Tree Inn Strouds Hill, Chisledon, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0NH Calley Arms Hodson, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0QG The Bell Inn Broad Hinton, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 9PF _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@eGroups.com +44/0-1737-242109 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 00:20:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA25296 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:18:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25270 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:18:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24761 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:18:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12hhFg-000AVK-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:53 +0100 Message-ID: <2LcPaMAzLO$4Ewmh@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:34:27 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Reply-To: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour 1 - Start Times MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hopefully this might catch the Rimini crowd before they disappear... Tour 1 Captains meeting will start at 09:00 on Saturday We'd recommend therefore, that captains (including reps from Druids and BAF) aim to arrive for 08:45 - if we can start earlier, we will. Games will commence sometime between 09:15 and 09:30 Assuming that we have 32 teams, and 12 pitches, most teams will be playing that first game. There's a possibility that we might get more pitches (even 16!) and more teams might get to play sooner... We can't tell you when/who you're playing first, as we haven't worked it out yet! Be there for 08:45, especially if you want to warm up! Wayne _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@eGroups.com +44/0-1737-242109 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 00:20:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA24789 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24745 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA05199 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12hhFg-000AVM-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:17:53 +0100 Message-ID: <89MyBBAXzO$4Ewkl@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:16:39 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Fluid Druids Ultimate Team Subject: Want to go to Brugges? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear BritDisc, Fluid Druids have entered Tom's Tournoi in Brugges on 6 and 7 May 2000. We're looking for a couple of competent extra players to join our team (current size = 8) for the weekend. Any interest? Wayne Retter Fluid Druids PS: "Foreign tournament... about 100 quid all in..." A.Batchelor --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 09:25:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA13832 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:24:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13824 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:24:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp2.san.rr.com (smtp2.san.rr.com [24.25.195.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27386 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:23:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultilinks.com ([204.210.5.243]) by smtp2.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:22:30 -0700 Message-ID: <38FD6C25.3336EAB4@ultilinks.com> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:19:49 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] New potm and article Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all. I know you're all staring at the Paganello web cam right now (and who wouldn't!) http://www.paganello.com/eng/paga2000/webcam.html The best tournament in the world is about to start. Anyway, here I am bugging you about Ultilinks again. A new picture of the month is online, along with a new article about ultimate and the internet/high-tech community. So if you can force yourself to look away from the web cam, check it out: http://www.ultilinks.com/ as always. One last thing: planning a tournament? Create a cool web site for it quickly and easily on Ultilinks! http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ Obviously, it's all free. See ya on da beach! Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 12:52:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA23728 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:48:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23713 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:48:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10304 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:47:55 +0100 (BST) Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:49:55 +0100 Message-ID: <590803E12A7AD211A428FA3DA70000001F5F40@admin.company-net.co.uk> From: Richard Clegg To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Scottish Regionals - Lost Property Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:49:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know, the tournament was weeks (maybe even months) ago, but I just got around to sorting out a few things that were left behind. I have - a blue Asics sweatshirt, XL, number '23' on the front. a white 'Teamsport Scotland Basketball' t-shirt, XL. a grey Mud Culture 'France '99' t-shirt (Isla, this one is probably yours). a plain white v-neck t-shirt, no label. a blue and black woven hackysack. one black elbow pad, no label. a blue Ellesse water bottle with black netting. If any of that's yours, let me know, and we'll get it to you as soon as possible. Thanks, Scuttler, Sneeekys. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 14:25:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA13388 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:23:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13379 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:23:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1006.mail.yahoo.com (web1006.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.96]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA06631 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:23:31 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 18732 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2000 13:23:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000419132328.18731.qmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.132.187] by web1006.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:23:28 BST Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:23:28 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?andy=20roberts?= Subject: MISSING DISC To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk dear all it may be a little time a go but my disc was picked up from the warwick indoor tourne by an unknown bear. please could the bear that picked up the white skunks disc with "andy (kipling)'s disc, look at me" on it please let me know who you are so i can arrange to get it back. thanks andy ===== Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 19 23:51:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA02389 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:49:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02383 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:49:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAB22831 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:48:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-15-87.host.btclick.com ([213.1.15.87]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000419224803.MELZ25753.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host213-1-15-87.host.btclick.com> for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:48:03 +0100 Received: by host213-1-15-87.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFAA59.8ECBDEC0@host213-1-15-87.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:47:01 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFAA59.8ECBDEC0@host213-1-15-87.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour Rosters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:46:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id XAA02384 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Teams need to ensure that they complete their rosters prior to the event. Names can be added to your roster up to 5:00pm on Thursday afternoon on the 27th April. After that the rosters will be printed, and anyone not on the roster will be assumed to be a guest. Each team is limited to one guest. The only teams not bound by these rules are teams electing to be unrostered. However they must submit a team list. They are simply not bound to it. Unrostered teams cannot qualify for Nationals. After T1 teams are open to add players to the list. They however need to contact me, about removing players. Please be aware that a player only needs to be removed if they wish to change teams, not if they are not playing. If a player wishes to change teams they must have a good reason. Committing to a roster implies that you are committing for the season. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 20 00:20:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA09745 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA09723 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14931 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12i3jB-0003Er-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:49 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12i3j9-000086-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:47 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2PBW3KTZ>; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:47 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE027164CD@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: aright peeps! Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:17:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hiya all. anyteam out there need an extra player for tour 1 (and the rest of the tour)? I'll prolly be heading up to swindon to check it out anyways, so gimme a shout. gotta go get some food. laters tom From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 20 11:07:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA20416 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:05:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20409 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:05:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk ([193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11733 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:05:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:05:13 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:05:01 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Loughborough ultimate players Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA20410 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to pinch Bd for this, Can Suzanne Pennfold and Chris "Beardy" Hughes please get in touch with me. Matt Matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com Matthewl@fisher.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 20 11:34:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA25854 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:30:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25843 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:30:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate2.bass.com (mailgate2.bass.com [152.134.49.71]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26622 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:30:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:29:34 +0100 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: <451C91804B1DD211A0440000F67EB34E7BAE06@HQBRNNT02> From: "Taylor, Ruth (Bass PLC)" To: "'britdisc2'" Subject: Travel to Brugges Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:20:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA25846 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone out there recommend any companies that are doing relatively cheap ferry crossings? So far I've only found fares in excess of £100 and we didn't pay anything like that last year. Cheers Ruth RED ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete all records of the message from your computer. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without our prior written consent is strictly prohibited. Neither the author of this message nor their employers accept legal responsibility for the contents of the message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 20 11:41:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA28464 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:40:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28434 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:40:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13853 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:40:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Thu Apr 20 03:39:26 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:39:26 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: FAO: Michael Johnson X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to bug everyone via BritDisc, but... FAO: Michael Johnson ("MJ" of BAF ?) Allied Dunbar Conference Centre rang me to advise that you need to call them (Debbie Lea on 01793-791000) about your room booking for 28 and 29 April. Wayne PS: Can this please be passed on to Michael Johnson if he's not on BritDisc. Cheers. (Or drop me a line if he has gone to Rimini!) --- Wayne Retter at work: 01737-273611 at home: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 20 15:27:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA18598 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:24:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18588 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:24:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA28310 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:24:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.122.225] (HELO mailhost.deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000335939 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:25:30 +0100 Message-ID: <38FF1316.9D7BA46F@mailhost.deepend.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:25:08 +0100 From: Jim Jam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Lift to tour 1? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are you going to Swindon from London on Friday night or Sturday morning, and coming back Sunday night? Do you have a wee space in your transporter for me? Renumeration negotiable. :) Cheers Bes* Jes* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 20 19:35:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA09154 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:31:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09149 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:31:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14369 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:31:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (pool2-pri2-038.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.168]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA14711 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:32:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009901bfaaf7$4f492160$a8a492c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Northern Ireland - know anyone there? Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:29:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This (attached) could be the chance we need to get ultimate going in Northern Ireland Can anyone help? Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Weber To: BUF Sent: 20 April 2000 17:24 Subject: BUF Web Page Enquiry > You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > > Name: Roger Weber > Drumquin > Co. Tyrone > Email: thewebers@drumquin.freeserve.co.uk > Message: Hello, Recently moved from the states and am looking > to see if there is any ultimate in the north of > Ireland, i.e. around Belfast or Londonderry. Be much > obliged if you could let me know if there is anything. > Thank you. Roger Weber From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Apr 23 18:37:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA15086 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:35:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15074 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:34:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23596 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:34:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12jQHU-0001s4-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:34:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:25:47 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Ultimate venues...Polo arenas? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Polo, the sport of Princes, Princesses and the "Fabulous Graces" by all accounts... US Nationals was held at a Polo ground - maybe the UK could follow their example? I'm led to believe that ONE polo arena should measure 300yds x 200yds and by my maths that's large enough for about EIGHT Ultimate (125yds x 40yds) pitches - That's a reasonable tournament size! I've also heard tell that an Indoor Polo Arena is "only" 100yds x 50yds. If there's a suitable surface and decent height, that's near enough a covered Ultimate pitch - winter training could be a real possibility. Anyone out there play Polo? Anyone know if my "facts" are right? or know anyone that does? Can you check the possibility of using the grounds? Can you provide any contacts/leads for somebody that might be interested in running an Ultimate tournament at a Polo ground? I've found a few Polo websites, but not had the time (and I, not my employer, pay for my surfing!) to look through them properly. http://www.polonews.com/ seems to be the best starting point for links, etc... Apparently, Polo is (also) taught/played at the following Unis: Oxford Brookes; Bristol; University of London (ULU) Anyone know anything about where, when, etc? Wayne PS: Could this bring a whole new meaning to "Chukka Disc" !? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Apr 23 18:37:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA15103 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:35:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15098 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:35:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23597 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:34:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12jQHU-0001s5-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:34:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:05:38 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Ross on Wye 2000: the wheels are in motion... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear BritDisc, Adam and I have had a little chat, and we're now working on the Ross-on- Wye 2000 tournament. As we see it, there are two realistic potential dates: 28 + 29 July 2000 the w/e BEFORE WUGC 19 + 20 August 2000 the w/e AFTER WUGC (it's my understanding that the 'gaps' in the BUF Diary at 21+22/07 and 26+27/08 now have venues booked for tournaments) Here's YOUR chance for a bit of pre-tournament interactivity: Which w/e would YOU (and/or your team) prefer? Yes, we realise that the outcome might depend on the opinions of the WUGC players... and that we've already made one concession to them by NOT holding Ross whilst they're away, but Adam prefers to merely offend people, not make enemies of them! Another thing - Adam wants to consider accepting teams on the quality of their "bid". No, not the size of your cheque, but the "the physical presentation of the desire to be at Ross"*. OK? More from us later, In the meantime: ~ Let us know your opinions about dates, ~ Give serious thought to your bids. Wayne Retter Fluid Druids *PS: The Druids were once allowed entry to Washington DC Fools Fest because they were willing to fly out on Friday, and back on Monday, just to play some Ultimate in the USofA. Personally, I reckon Adam's hoping for visits from a scantily clad nubiles with morals sufficiently flexible to persuade Adam to let their team come to Ross... PPS: In the interests of sexual equality, we have not specified the gender of the aforementioned "nubiles". ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter Fluid Druids From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Apr 24 08:40:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA21849 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:39:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21837 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:39:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20179 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:39:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA09177 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:35:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:35:34 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200004240735.IAA09177@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 29th April 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Scottish Open (2 days) @ Isle of Mull, Scotland [Golf] Contact Guy Bolton Phone 01688 500 249 TOUR I (2 days) @ Swindon [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 15/16 April). Contact Layout Dreams Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dive Hard IV (2000) (2 days) @ Gšteborg (Gothenburg), Sweden [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Bjšrn Johansson Email divehard2000@hotmail.com National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 25 11:07:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA03601 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:03:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03594 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:03:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03924 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:03:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:02:57 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:02:50 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: looking for Nancy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA03596 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could Nancy Stebbing please get in touch with me regards tour II. Thanks, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 25 19:33:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA08674 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:31:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08659 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:31:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12344 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:31:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.79.199] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12kA6o-00012o-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:30:54 +0100 Message-ID: <003201bfaee4$cceca2e0$c74f8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed Series 2000 events Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:21:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have the pleasure of announcing another date in the Mixed Series event calendar. Mixed Event hosted by Mild Mannered Janitors Leed June 17-18 Now we have three confirmed events- so plan to come to a few! June 3-4: Cambridge June 17-18: Leeds August 26-27: Nottingham Details to follow as the tournament dates get closer. Come play! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Apr 25 19:33:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA08664 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:31:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08647 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:31:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28825 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:31:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.79.199] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12kA6m-00012o-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:30:52 +0100 Message-ID: <003101bfaee4$cc233860$c74f8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: invites to Tour 2 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:19:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paper invites for Tour 2 should be hitting the doorsteps of the 43 most likely to attend teams based on the latest team contact list. BUT- there's plenty of room for teams to come play- 40 slots!!! Tour 2 will be held at Towcester Racetrack, in the middle of the track. There will be pitchside food and beer, on-site camping, on-site party, and an optional dinner Saturday night. (Menu to be announced soon.) All this for only £90 plus BUF tax. Why is it a bit pricey? Well- this is a new site and we are bringing in shower facilities so you can all get clean, plus the camping and party fees must be paid. Why should you come? The Towcester Racecourse would like to become the centre for Ultimate frisbee in Britain. They'll build us showers/changing rooms if we're going to use them. Plus, we don't have to fight with footballers or cricketers for pitch space. So- come and see what you think. If you like it- we can begin negotiations for more events there (at a better price!). If you want to enter, send £90 to Nancy Stebbing, 10 Buckingham Road, Brackley, Northants NN13 7HH with your team name, contact name, address, and a phone #. Hope to see you there. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 10:01:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA11358 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:59:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11352 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:59:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA26811 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:59:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:58:42 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:58:32 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Matt & Jes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA11354 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sorry to use britdisc for this for the 3rd time in a week. Jes and Matt (Langfield?) from/former fingers 6, could you please get in touch RE: Tour 1. Cheers, Matt matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com matthewl@fisher.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 11:29:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA11036 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:27:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11016 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:27:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1801.mail.yahoo.com (web1801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.44]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13505 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:27:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 936 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2000 10:27:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000426102717.935.qmail@web1801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.44.211.242] by web1801.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:27:17 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:27:17 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jonathan=20Pearce?= To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 11:34:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA13377 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:33:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13371 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:33:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1801.mail.yahoo.com (web1801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.44]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA14077 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:33:08 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1936 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2000 10:33:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000426103307.1935.qmail@web1801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.44.211.242] by web1801.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:33:07 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jonathan=20Pearce?= Subject: Polo stuff To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I do know of a polo ground in the New Forest with a field attached for camping and toilet/shower facilities. It is on a farm that holds the annual New Forest and Hampshire show, so it is used to loads of people. I think it is called New Farm, in beautiful surroundings between Lyndhurst and Brockhurst with pubs aplenty nearby. Might be worth enquiring. Convoy Point Blank & Jedi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 11:48:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA18766 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:47:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18747 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA15289 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-147-91.host.btclick.com ([62.7.147.91]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000426104726.VLVK25753.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host62-7-147-91.host.btclick.com> for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:47:26 +0100 Received: by host62-7-147-91.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFAF75.04B0E700@host62-7-147-91.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:46:11 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFAF75.04B0E700@host62-7-147-91.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Rosters Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:44:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA18748 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A reminder that all teams have to submit a roster by 6:00pm on Thursday. Any players not included on a roster at this time, must either play as guests, or for an unrostered team, so sort your lives out. The rostering details are submitted via the BUF website. Even unrostered teams must submit a team list. They are not bound by it. Any problems with the website contact Ben Ravillious. Any problems with you roster, or questions, contact me. Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 13:52:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA27867 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:49:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27838 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:49:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (root@caged.st-and.ac.uk [138.251.34.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05170 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:49:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (jpg2@purds [138.251.34.20]) by caged.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06569; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:49:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (jpg2@localhost) by purds.st-andrews.ac.uk (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA20094; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:49:09 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:49:09 +0100 (BST) From: Big Funky X-Sender: jpg2@st-andrews.ac.uk To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jonathan=20Pearce?= cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Polo stuff In-Reply-To: <20000426103307.1935.qmail@web1801.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Pearce, I thinks it's New Park Farm - if i remember correctly through the alcoholic haze! 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 14:57:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA21373 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:54:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21354 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:54:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17150 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:54:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04311 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3906FFEA.9CD49F1D@paganello.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:40:42 +0200 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc Subject: Paganello2000: Final Placings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paganello2000 21-24 April 2000 Rimini Beach, Italy World Beach Ultimate Cup Official Results: CO-ED Spirit Of The Game: Aged to Perfection, Canada 1 KUPA, New Zealand, Oceania (World Beach Ultimate Champions 2000) 2 Huck Finn, USA 3 Poughkeepsie, England 4 FSL, Switzerland 5 Crunch, USA 6 Fun & Games, USA 7 98% Funky Stuff, Germany 8 AGM, England 9 I need to sit, Canada 10 Paprika's, Hungary 11 Blaumiesen, Austria 12 Aged to Perfection, Canada WOMEN'S Spirit Of The Game: Mavis, England 1 Bliss, England, Europe (World Beach Ultimate Champions, 2000) 2 Flying V's, Sweden 3 Maitotytot, Finland 4 Shoot from the hip, Germany 5 Old ones, The Netherlands 6 Villit Venlat, Finland 7 Coastal Tendencies, USA/Canada 8 Tequila Boom Boom, Italy 9 Yahoo, Austria 10 Mavis, England 11 Berzerker! , USA 12 Ratschkatln, Germany 13 Tank girls, Germany 14 Gazongas, Austria 15 Swiss Mix, Switzerland 16 Fresh Eggs, France 17 DDT, Italy 18 Swiss Chicken, Switzerland/Germany 19 Bonbons roses, France 20 Mucche al pascolo, Italy OPEN Spirit Of The Game: Patatas Bravas, Spain 1 Houston Houndz, USA, America (World Beach Ultimate Champions) 2 Mir San Mir, Germany 3 Feldrenner, Germany 4 Zamperl, Germany 5 Catch22, England 6 UTI, England 7 Cota Rica, Italy 8 Pacta, Sweden 9 Fuzzy Bunny, USA 10 Kaljakko, Finland 11 Collard Greens, USA 12 Copenaghen FC, Denmark 13 FAB, Switzerland 14 Sydney2000, The Netherlands 15 Jet Set Int'l, Belgium 16 Backstreet Toys, Germany 17 thebigez, Austria 18 Pele Mana, USA 19 ZUF, Switzerland 20 Wall City, Germany 21 Team42, Germany 22 Salutami 'ntonio, Italy 23 Morko, Finland 24 El Nino, Sweden 25 Mental Discorders, Slovakia 26 Lumber Huggers, Canada 27 Chicago, USA 28 Catchup, Austria 29 XLR8RS, Belgium 30 Patatas Bravas, Spain 31 Chevron A. F., England 32 Flying Circus, Austria 33 Les Invalides, France 34 Searching Woodpeckers, Germany 35 Discipuli, Germany 36 La Dotta, Italy 37 Superfly, England 38 Radical, Switzerland 39 Les Frisbeurs Nantais, France 40 Mucche al pascolo, Italy 41 Fattanza FC, Italy 42 Shakers, Italy 43 Forza Elektra, The Netherlands 44 MP, Italy 45 Strange Blue, England 46 Wiz, Switzerland 47 Mwnci See, Wales 48 Mohawks, England Thanks to all the 1300 Beach Ultimate Lovers for making the Rimini Beach the best place to be for 5 wonderful days: we made it big! Take care! _Jumpi More pictures and comments coming soon at: http://www.paganello.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 18:36:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA00752 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:35:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00737 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:35:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA27163 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:35:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Wed Apr 26 10:34:29 2000 To: "britdisc" Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:34:29 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@england.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Paganello2000: Final Placings X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >OPEN >5 Catch22, England >6 UTI, England At times like this, we need Colin to tell us all about it.... :) Wayne --- Wayne Retter at work: 01737-273611 at home: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Apr 26 23:25:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA22455 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:22:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22447 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:22:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1401.mail.yahoo.com (web1401.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.165]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10905 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:22:52 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3067 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2000 22:22:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20000426222251.3066.qmail@web1401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.228.129.11] by web1401.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:22:51 PDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:22:51 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=20Wagstaff?= Subject: Re: Paganello2000: Final Placings To: w.retter@england.com, britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK Wayne, you asked for it. I won Aussie Nationals with Feral, 4 days tough competition and our offence was awesome. Beware at Worlds. And we'll be there on the beach in 2001, looking for a semi final spot. A little thunder from down under. Colin. --- Wayne Retter wrote: > >OPEN > >5 Catch22, England > >6 UTI, England > > At times like this, we need Colin to tell us all > about it.... :) > > Wayne > > --- > Wayne Retter > at work: 01737-273611 > at home: > wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk > mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! 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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk is available, in the field that we have booked for a campsite. Note 1: there are no facilities (lights, toilets, taps) there. Note 2: Cars are NOT allowed onto the camping field*. THE CATCH: I'm not entirely sure which field our campsite is in! "It's the one nearest the pub, owned by the Racecourse" isn't useful! I THINK it has a metal waist height(ish) "five-bar" gate... Here's the Plan: I have a key for the lock on the gate, and will be in the area at about 21:30. I'll unlock the gate (and secure it in such a way that you can't take cars in!) and POSSIBLY TRY to mark it with some identifying feature (like a flashing roadlight!). I suggest that anyone that's there on Friday night makes use of the facilities at the Shepherds Rest PH in the meantime... I'll pop in and visit... There could be a complication - when I 'visited' last week, there were road works (pipelaying?) in progress along the road outside the racetrack. I don't know what way or how fast they were going, so there's a possibility our campsite entrance may be in the middle of a set of roadworks! *Campsite Parking: On Friday night, I'd suggest that you leave cars in the car park of the Shepherds Rest PH (just down the road) On Saturday night, I'd suggest that cars are left in the Allied Dunbar carpark. DO NOT PARK ON THE WET GRASS VERGE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD! 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I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further into debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. But like most of you I was still a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. After determining the program was LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT?" Initially I sent out 100,000 e-mails. It cost me about $15 for my time on-line. The great thing about e-mail is that I don't need any money for printing to send out the program, and because all of my orders are fulfilled via e-mail, the only expense is my time. I am telling you like it is, I hope it doesn't turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me. In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. Your goal is to "RECEIVE at least 20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF YOU DON'T, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $55,000 in 90 days was done. By January 30, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. Your goal is to "RECEIVE AT LEAST 100+ ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN 2 WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $55,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 1, of my e-mailing of 100,000, I received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attached program, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER!!! Remember, it won't work if you don't try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It won't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! In order for this program to work, you must meet your goal of 20+ orders for REPORT #1, and 100+ orders for REPORT #2 and you will make $55,000 or more in 90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS!!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I am sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and are in financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! P.S. Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,000) look like piled up on a kitchen table? IT'S AWESOME! A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: By the time you have read the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for 10 years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it wasn't working. Finally, I figured it out. It wasn't me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I don't have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate... because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. The middle class was vanishing. Those who knew what they were doing invested wisely and moved up. Those who did not, including those who never had anything to save or invest, were moving down into the ranks of the poor. As the saying goes, "THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER." The traditional methods of making money will never allow you to "move up" or "get rich", inflation will see to that. You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of this money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made over 4 MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out over 1,600,000 programs. Now I have several offices that make this and several other programs here and over seas. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report to everyone you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more...and your name will be on everyone of them! Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! You will definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! ---------------------------- HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU THOUSANDS OF DOLLAR$ ---------------------------- INSTRUCTIONS: This method of raising capital REALLY WORKS 100% EVERY TIME. I am sure that you could use up to $55,000 or more in the next 90 days. Before you say "BULL... ", please read this program carefully. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what you do: As with all multi-level businesses, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Because of the global nature of the internet, you will be able to recruit new multi-level business partners from all over the world, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME BY MAIL AND ARE FILLED BY E-MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: This is what you MUST do: 1. Order all 4 reports shown on the list below (you can't sell them if you don't order them). * For each report, send $5.00 CASH, the NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR NAME & RETURN ADDRESS (in case of a problem) to the person whose name appears on the list next to the report. AND MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE IN CASE OF ANY MAIL PROBLEMS! * When you place your order, make sure you order each of the four reports. You will need all four reports so that you can save them on your computer and resell them. * Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the four reports. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. 2. IMPORTANT-- DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than is instructed below in steps "a" through "f" or you will lose out on the majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you'll also see how it doesn't work if you change it. Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will not work. a. Look below for the listing of available reports. b. After you've ordered the four reports, take this advertisement and remove the name and address under REPORT #4. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their $55,000. c. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to REPORT #4. d. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to REPORT #3. e. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2. f. Insert your name/address in the REPORT #1 position. Please make sure you copy every name and address ACCURATELY! 3. Take this entire letter, including the modified list of names, and save it to your computer. Make NO changes to the instruction portion of this letter. Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely you can afford $20). You obviously already have an Internet connection and e-mail is FREE! To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 4 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much, much more. In addition you will be provided with information on Internet Marketing Clubs such as INTERNET MARKETING RESOURCES (IMR): This is one of the Premier Internet marketing clubs on the INTERNET. This club provides a forum where Internet marketers from all over the world can exchange ideas and secrets on Internet Marketing. In addition, members of this club are provided free Internet marketing tools and services for the Do-It-Yourself-Internet-Marketer. They will provide you with free bulk e-mail software and up to 1,000,000 fresh e-mail addresses each week. This club will provide you with hundreds of free resources which include: How to obtain free web sites, how to obtain top rankings in search-engines for your web-site, how to send bulk e-mail into AOL and Compuserve, how to market your products on newsgroups, free classified ads, electronic malls, bulletin boards, banner ads and much more. There are two primary methods of building your downline: METHOD #1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.5% response. Using a good list the response could be much better. Also, many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 0.5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those 0.5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The 0.5% response to that is 1000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The 0.5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 11,110 $5 bills for you. CASH!!! Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5,000 + $50,000 for a total of $55,550!!! REMEMBER, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR EVEN HALF SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! REPORT #2 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing, tell you where to obtain free bulk e-mail software and where to obtain e-mail lists and show you how to send out 1,000,000 e-mails for free. METHOD #2 - PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET 1. Advertising on the 'Net is very, very inexpensive, and there are HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. Let's say you decide to start small just to see how well it works. Assume your goal is to get ONLY 10 people to participate on your first level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on the Internet will EASILY get a larger response.) Also assume that everyone else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 6 downline members. Follow this example to achieve the STAGGERING results below. 1st level--your 10 members with $5 ($5 x 10).............$50 2nd level--10 members from those 10 ($5 x 100).............$500 3rd level--10 members from those 100 ($5 x 1000)....... $5,000 4th level--10 members from those 1000 ($5 x 10,000).. $50,000 ----------- THIS TOTALS ----------------------$55,550 Remember friends, this assumes that the people who participate only recruit 10 people each. Think for a moment what would happen if they got 20 people to participate! Many people will get 100's of participants! THINK ABOUT IT! For every $5.00 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the report they ordered. THAT'S IT! ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! This will guarantee that the e-mail THEY send out, with YOUR name and address on it, will be prompt because they can't advertise until they receive the report! ------------------------------------------ AVAILABLE REPORTS ------------------------------------------ *** Order Each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME *** Notes: - ALWAYS SEND $5 CASH (U.S. CURRENCY) FOR EACH REPORT. CHEQUES NOT ACCEPTED. - ALWAYS SEND YOUR ORDER VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL - Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least two sheets of paper - On one of those sheets of paper, include: (a) the number & name of the report you are ordering, (b) your e-mail address, and (c) your name & postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: ___________________________________________________ ___ REPORT #1 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM: Sarah Harris PO Box 4271 Verwood BH31 6FW UK ___________________________________________________ ___ REPORT #2 "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #2 FROM: James Leyden 48 Archerhill Road Glasgow G13 3NN UK ___________________________________________________ ___ REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" ORDER REPORT #3 FROM: James Symons PO BOX 5902 Epping, Essex CM16 6EZ UK ___________________________________________________ ___ REPORT #4 "How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of Multilevel Marketing and the Internet" ORDER REPORT #4 FROM: Michael Robinson PO BOX 180544 Coronado, Ca 92178 USA ___________________________________________________ _ ___________________________________________________ ___ ___________________________________________________ ___ There are currently more than 175,000,000 people online worldwide! ******* TIPS FOR SUCCESS ******* * TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Be prompt, professional, and follow the directions accurately. * Send for the four reports IMMEDIATELY so you will have them when the orders start coming in because: When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested product/report. * ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE. * Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the instructions exactly, your results WILL BE SUCCESSFUL! * ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU WILL SUCCEED! ******* YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES ******* Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you don't receive 20 orders for REPORT #1 within two weeks, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT#2. If you don't, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a DIFFERENT report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. If you want to generate more income, send another batch of e-mails or continue placing ads and start the whole process again! There is no limit to the income you will generate from this business! Before you make your decision as to whether or not you participate in this program. Please answer one question. DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE? If the answer is yes, please look at the following facts about this program: 1. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT WHICH DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO PRODUCE! 2. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT WHICH DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO SHIP! 3. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT WHICH DOES NOT COST YOU ANYTHING TO ADVERTISE! 4. YOU ARE UTILIZING THE POWER OF THE INTERNET AND THE POWER OF MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR PRODUCT ALL OVER THE WORLD! 5. YOUR ONLY EXPENSE OTHER THAN YOUR INITIAL $20 INVESTMENT IS YOUR TIME! 6. VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE INCOME YOU GENERATE FROM THIS PROGRAM IS PURE PROFIT! 7. THIS PROGRAM WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER. ******* T E S T I M O N I A L S ******* This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rule of not trying to place your name in a different position, it won't work and you'll lose a lot of potential income. I'm living proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to financial security. Steven Bardfield, Portland, OR My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody, and I live in Chicago, IL. I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to Jody about receiving "junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was shocked! I was sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work. I AM a believer now. I have joined Jody in her "hobby." I did have seven more years until retirement, but I think of the "rat race" and it's not for me. We owe it all to MLM. Mitchell Wolf MD., Chicago, IL The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. Sincerely yours, Charles Morris, Esq. Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. Boy, was I surprised when I found my medium-size post office box crammed with orders! For awhile, it got so overloaded that I had to start picking up my mail at the window. I'll make more money this year than any 10 years of my life before. The nice thing about this deal is that it doesn't matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return. Paige Willis, Des Moines, IA I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed another program, ...11 months passed then it came...I didn't delete this one!...I made more than $41,000 on the first try!! Violet Wilson, Johnstown, PA This is my third time participating in this plan. We have quit our jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Good luck and happy spending! Kerry Ford, Centerport, NY ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! NOW IS THE TIME FOR YOUR TURN DECISIVE ACTION YIELDS POWERFUL RESULTS PLEASE NOTE: If you need help with starting a business, registering a business name, learning how income tax is handled, etc., contact your local office of the Small Business Administration (a Federal agency) 1-(800)827-5722 for free help and answers to questions. Also, the Internal Revenue Service offers free help via telephone and free seminars about business tax requirements. Your earnings and results are highly dependant on your activities and advertising. This letter constitutes no guarantees stated nor implied. In the event that it is determined that this letter constitutes a guarantee of any kind, that guarantee is now void. Any testimonials or amounts of earnings listed in this letter may be factual or fictitious. If you have any question of the legality of this letter contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Consumer Protection in Washington DC. Created with Mail Them 1.53. 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Don't know if you got my last message Cheers Ben Silk PointB _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 13:05:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA24072 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:03:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24054 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:03:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f59.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.59]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05831 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:03:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 17329 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 2000 12:02:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20000427120241.17328.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.46 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:02:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.46] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, bravil@webleicester.co.uk, ben@ravilious.net, w.retter@england.com Subject: Radio 5 Live Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:02:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I will be being interview tonite on "The Score" between 9 and 10pm. They are interested in the Tour events that are coming up, but I would also like to give them some details about the London league and any other Leagues that are happening, so please get intouch with the web and the subscription address. Many Thanks Vanessa White Womens Co-Ordinator ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 13:09:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA25853 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:08:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25838 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:08:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24584 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:08:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12kn5i-0000L9-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:08:22 +0000 Subject: Lift to swindon available Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:11:21 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Anyone needing a lift to Swindon from South London, I suddenly have space in the car. Probably leaving early Sat am (though could conceivably go Fri night). Interested? Call me, 020 8767 8243 or mobile 0370 918719. Cheers Paul --------------------------------- Paul Hurt paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 13:55:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA09408 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09394 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00020 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:17 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:09 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E624@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Rosters Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:52:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following Teams have not submitted their rosters; Failure to do so will mean that you are entering as an un-rostered geo team and cannot qualify for Nationals. Catch22 Mud Culture SOUP Swamp Donkeys Superfly / Hazefly The following teams are having technical hiccups and contigencies are being put in place. UTI Doughboy ChevronAF DSM If you have any problems contact me NOW. Details we given over 2 weeks ago, and the deadline is 5:00pm today. Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 16:44:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA13649 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:43:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13641 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:43:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11075 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:43:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from digley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.248]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12kqRp-0001lL-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:43:25 +0100 Received: from DIGLEY/SpoolDir by digley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 27 Apr 00 16:43:24 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by DIGLEY (Mercury 1.46); 27 Apr 00 16:43:19 +0100 From: "Mark Lean" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:43:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Pick ups for Tour I X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I noticed that we were beaten to it but SCA (Sheffield Cardiff Alliance) also need some extra players due to people droping out at the last minute. We are a student team but will take anyone. If you are interested get in touch or just look for us at Swindon (we'll be wearing red shirts). Mark Phone: 0114 2507991 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 16:52:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA16398 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:52:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16386 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:52:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (web124.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.192]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA12780 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:52:08 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7687 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Apr 2000 15:52:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20000427155207.7686.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.1.128.63] by web124.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:52:07 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:52:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: Re: tour pickups To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Suppose there are people who are interested in picking up for tour I but have no way to get to Swindon... Where would be the best place to find help? I know someone has put out a website with ride offers, but I don't have the address, and has anyone posted any offers there anyway? So, if anyone is driving from/through Manchester on the way, there are possibly interested pickups....could you get details to me, and anyone else interested? Thanks Sarah an ulty player with no wheels... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 17:38:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA29639 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29627 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:38:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22245 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:37:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from p60-harc1-kirklees1.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.244.60] helo=user) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12krAc-0004fK-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:29:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bfb067$48f06f60$a69cfea9@user> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Adam Hughes Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:39:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB06F.929BB680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB06F.929BB680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have a phone number for Adam "Ickle" Hughes? I tried the one = I had but that number was not available. It's very improtant that I = speak to him so a quick response from anyone who has it would be great. cheers, Matt Swamp Donkeys PS: Anyone wanting to pick up at tour 1 can reach me at the below. Work: matthewl@fisher.co.uk Home: matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com mobile: 07712 266794 home: 01509 556927 work: 01509 555137 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB06F.929BB680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have a phone number for = Adam "Ickle"=20 Hughes? I tried the one I had but that number was not available. It's = very=20 improtant that I speak to him so a quick response from anyone who = has it=20 would be great.
 
cheers,
 
Matt
Swamp Donkeys
 
PS: Anyone wanting to pick up at = tour 1 can=20 reach me at the below.
 
Work: matthewl@fisher.co.uk
Home: matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com
 
mobile: 07712 266794
home: 01509 556927
work: 01509 = 555137
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFB06F.929BB680-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Apr 27 17:46:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA02037 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:46:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02022 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:46:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (relay2.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.107.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19519 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:46:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.82.136.110] (helo=Farid) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12krQT-000702-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:46:05 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bfb068$51c1b580$6e8852c1@home2home> From: "Colin Smith" To: Subject: Hammerage/First Touch Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:47:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFB070.B3648BC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFB070.B3648BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry everyone else, but could Simon or any of the assorted numbers at = Hammerage contact me about tour rosters/team, etc. Cheers Colin Smith ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFB070.B3648BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry everyone else, but could Simon or = any of the=20 assorted numbers at Hammerage contact me about tour rosters/team,=20 etc.
 
Cheers
Colin Smith
------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BFB070.B3648BC0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 01:15:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA08547 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:14:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08536 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:14:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net (finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net [212.225.36.83]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15054 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:14:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from host-74-198.dial.in2home.co.uk ([212.225.19.198]) by finch-post-1.mail.in2home.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12kyQ4-0003Oi-01 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:14:09 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:14:37 +0100 Subject: From: "mungo sheppard" To: britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A quick message just to inform London players that the Bad Habits practice and pickup has changed location to the bottom of Hyde Park near the tennis courts by the side of the road running thru. We generally meet at 2:00 on Sunday in the said location and anyone is welcome to turn up and play, so please do. Any further info can be obtained by calling me on the numbers below or emailing me at mungo@sheppard-designs,in2home.co.uk have a fab bank holiday weekend all Mungo Sheppard (H) 020 7435 3018 (M) 07801 547 083 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 10:00:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA10651 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:58:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10631 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:58:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk ([193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA05619 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:58:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:57:57 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:57:48 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: seedings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA10634 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Is there any information on seedings or first games for swindon this weekend, or will we have to wait till saturday morning? thanks, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 10:37:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA21263 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:35:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21238 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk ([193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08705 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:35:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:34:55 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:34:45 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Re: seedings Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA21240 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This was supposed to go to britdisc. Matt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew Lowe wrote: >Hi all, > >Is there any information on seedings or first games for swindon this weekend, or will we have to wait till saturday morning? > >thanks, > >Matt Captains' meeting is at 09:00 33 teams on 14 pitches. First games are at 09:30 Only 5 teams do not play in these games. The rest will be notified I'd suggest that everyone is there for 08:45 to start throwing around, drinking tea, etc. Wayne Retter Layout Dreams PS: The weather for the w/e is supposed to be better than it had been recently! --- Wayne Retter at work: 01737-273611 at home: wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 13:34:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA23277 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:31:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23270 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:31:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13182 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:31:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:31:36 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:31:30 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E62A@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: End of British Disc Drought Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:31:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA23271 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know have a pile (this is a technical term and is extremely accurate) of new discs for sale. If any one is interested contact me here or via the BUF. please note orders for less than 10 discs will take a while to sort, and are unlikely to be posted. I will have some at the tour if you wish to take them there. £4ea for schools £6ea for 10+ £7ea for 1 - 9 Chris Hughes From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 14:03:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA04267 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:02:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04260 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:02:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsd01.community.net.uk (bsd01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01333 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:02:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from alpha01.community.net.uk (alpha01.community.net.uk [195.72.161.16]) by bsd01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01596 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:02:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from server.oxtutor.co.uk (oxtutor.community.co.uk [195.72.164.109]) by alpha01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22810 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:02:19 +0100 (BST) Received: by server.oxtutor.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BFB10B.B7070370@server.oxtutor.co.uk>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:17:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Hope To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Calling Scottish Players / Teams Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:17:25 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We've had an enquiry about Ultimate from Scottish TV . Can anyone in the Glasgow (or Edinburgh?) area who fancies seeing their face on the box and reckons they might be able to sort out something decent out for S2 to shoot get in touch with me ASAP? I'll provide details then. Not you Merrick. Cheers Jon Hope BUF Publicity > > >> You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > >> Message: Hi I want to do a piece on our programme S2 live about ultimate >frisbee. Please could you let me know what some of the best teams in >Scotland would be to feature. Thanks >> >> >> >> > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 14:06:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA05268 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:05:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05251 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:05:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01969 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:05:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id OAA16483; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:05:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:05:19 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:04:42 +0100 From: "Alexa Troedson" To: Subject: Co-ed CAM 2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id OAA05252 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Announcing... CO-ED CAM 2000!! Venue: Coldhams Common, Whitehill Rd, Cambridge Dates: June 3rd-4th Captains meeting 9.30am on Saturday. Format: This is the first tournament of the inaugural BUF Co-ed Tour. There is space for 16 teams. Each team will need at least 5 women and 5 men. The tournament will be played to WFDF co-ed rules (ie. 3-4 gender split on the pitch). Teams for the Co-ed Tour will be rostered, but individuals may change teams during the season. Rosters may be handed in at the captains meeting. Any individuals (especially women) wishing to play but without a team should contact the organisers (Olivier Cottray ojco@bas.ac.uk or Alexa Troedson altr@bas.ac.uk ) as soon as possible. Accommodation: Unfortunately there is no camping available within Cambridge. Strange Blue players will accommodate as many people as possible. There are plenty of B&Bs and guesthouses in Cambridge but book early. Reasonably comprehensive accommodation guides are available at http://www.cambridge.gov.uk/leisure/acc00.htm and http://www.adhocity.com/cambridge/tnt/wheretostay/ Contact us for a paper copy of cheap accommodation options. Price: £70/team. We want to offer a low cost, not-for-profit tournament, and should be able to refund some of the entry costs if we're fully subscribed. Catering: Food will be available at the fields, courtesy of the British Women's Ultimate Team who are fundraising for Worlds. Social events: The tournament will coincide with the annual Strawberry Fair; watch this space for more details... To enter: Team entries are due by Friday May 26th (1 week before the tournament) but we'd appreciate expressions of interest as soon as possible. Cheques made out to Cambridge Ultimate Sports Club should be sent to: Olivier Cottray 33 Thornton Close Girton, Cambridge, CB3 0NF ph. 01223-503738(h), 01223-221203(w) Hope to see a crowd there! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Apr 28 19:49:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA05841 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:47:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05835 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:47:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (mta@smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22424 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:47:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultilinks.com ([204.210.5.243]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3909DCEE.55B15E53@ultilinks.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:48:14 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] New articles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk New stuff for you to read on Ultilinks: Interview with Charles Kerr, inventor of the X-Rules and Callahan Award: http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/interviews.cgi?ver=3&file=2000_04.txt Educational article (from the ultimate handbook): Offense - Flow http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tutorials.cgi?ver=3&file=flow.txt Educational article (from the ultimate handbook): Zone Defense http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/tutorials.cgi?ver=3&file=zoned.txt Dot Com Ultimate: why the internet and ultimate go so well together: http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/articles.cgi?ver=3&file=dotcom.txt Plus a whole lot more. Ultilinks is becoming HUGE. Do you think you've seen it all? Check it out! http://www.ultilinks.com/ Keep 'em spinning, Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 29 00:03:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA18452 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:02:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18444 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:02:29 +0100 (BST) From: DFJK@aol.com Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15993 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:02:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from DFJK@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id 8.55.5314ccd (3891) for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55.5314ccd.263b7261@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:01:53 EDT Subject: can you receive britdisc as a digest? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 138 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk is there any way of receiving britdisc messages as a daily digest? I'd be appreciative of any help with this! dk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Apr 29 14:01:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA06129 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:59:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06082 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:59:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay04.esat.net (relay04.esat.net [192.111.39.47]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02852 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailserver.sepro.ie (sepro.ie) [193.120.132.131] by relay04.esat.net with smtp id 12lWq0-0001HU-00; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:59:12 +0100 Received: from sepro_peter [192.168.1.145] by sepro.ie [192.168.1.2] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:56:50 +0100 From: "Peter Bennison" To: "Britdisc" Subject: RE: can you receive britdisc as a digest? Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:59:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bfb1da$b2bcae80$9101a8c0@sepro_peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <55.5314ccd.263b7261@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: pbennison@sepro.ie Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't know, but there's an archive of every message going back to 1996 (there's 4778 messages, in case you're wondering). Check out: http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suaaz/BritDisc/ Takes a while to download. Any chance of pruning the archive/organising it a bit? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of DFJK@aol.com > Sent: 29 April 2000 00:02 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: can you receive britdisc as a digest? > > > is there any way of receiving britdisc messages as a daily digest? I'd be > appreciative of any help with this! > > dk > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 1 07:53:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA16597 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA16589 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14712 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA19256 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200005010647.HAA19256@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ ---------- Saturday 6th May 2000 National Student Outdoors (2 days) @ Lady Manner School, Bakewell, Derbyshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Pete Coy (Student Co-ordinator) Email lwp99pjc@sheffield.ac.uk Brugge 8th International Tournament - TBC (2 days) @ Brugge, Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] URL: http://www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz/ Contact Freez Beezz Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dive Hard IV (2000) (2 days) @ Gšteborg (Gothenburg), Sweden [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Bjšrn Johansson Email divehard2000@hotmail.com National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 3rd June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Cambridge [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Alexa Troedson Email altr@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 1 21:22:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA03942 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 2000 21:21:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA03937 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 21:21:31 +0100 (BST) From: richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28236 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 21:21:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-116.virginia.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.97.116] helo=jacksoniii) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mMh5-0006ht-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 01 May 2000 21:21:27 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:23:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Shirts and kit for Worlds X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk THIS IS FOR THE SUPERFLY PLAYER WHO IS ARANGING SHIRTS FOR THE WORLDS THIS YEAR. I AM THE JUNIOR PLAYER WHO KEPT ON CANGING HIS MIND ABOUT HIS SHIRT. THIS IS HOW IT STANDS:- LARGE SHIRT (42) LIGHT & DARK SHORTS FOR BOTH KITS 2 PAIRS OF SOCKS CAN IT PLEASE BE CHANGED TO:- MEDIUM SHIRT (42) LIGHT & DARK SHORTS FOR BOTH KITS(2 OF EACH) 3 PAIRS OF SOCKS COULD I PLEASE ALSO ORDER THE JUMPER OR SLIPOVER(WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT). COULD YOU PLEASE SEND A RETURN MAIL TO CONFIRM THIS AND ALSO ADD THE PRICE. CHEERS. RICHARD JACKSON (GB JUNIORS) P.S. WELL PLAYED ON TOUR. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 1 23:52:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA29583 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:51:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29508 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07015 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:50:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-173-117.host.btclick.com ([62.7.173.117]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000501225108.ULI25753.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host62-7-173-117.host.btclick.com> for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:51:08 +0100 Received: by host62-7-173-117.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFB3C7.F3AB0B00@host62-7-173-117.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:49:55 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFB3C7.F3AB0B00@host62-7-173-117.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: A Warning! Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:49:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id XAA29515 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Those of you at T1 in Swindon hopefully had a good time. However this news item on the local news went out repeatedly over Monday. If this is you or you know who is responsible for this let them know now! I suspect that it is no coincidence that it occurred at the same time that an ultimate tournament was going on just down the road. At some stage on Saturday night Sunday daytime the Wanborough Herb Farm was broken into. For those of you not aware the pubs that people frequented were in Wanborough, and to get to them you had to go past the herb farm - it was 600m from the campsite. Some plants were taken, including a plant called Monks Hood. It is a dark blue colour flower, although I couldn't make out much more from the picture. It will cause a rash and fever, on contact with the skin and is DEADLY IF INGESTED. It is stupid, thoughtless incidents like this that will continually blight our sport. (Anyone remember the nice site at Lydney?) If this had anything to do with ultimate players then the likelihood of us getting another event at Swindon has just been reduced. It may seem funny at 3:00 on a drunk Saturday night, however word soon spreads about things like this, and will drastically reduce our chances of getting back. Allied Dunbar do not need our custom, they can find other events. We however cannot find other venues. If this was not you, thank you for reading this far, and I apologise for tarring you with same brush as those responsible. If this was you, thank you for f**king up another quality venue. Chris Hughes LD and DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 02:52:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id CAA02950 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 02:51:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA02942 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 02:51:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f29.hotmail.com [209.185.131.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA13861 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 02:51:28 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 8710 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 01:50:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20000502015056.8709.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.140.45.242 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 01 May 2000 18:50:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.140.45.242] From: "Chris Dixon" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Funny Flowers Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 18:50:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >It is stupid, thoughtless incidents like this that will continually blight >our sport. Stupid? Thoughtless? This is a Herb Farm we're talking about. The Quill Fish ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 08:31:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA09659 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:29:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09653 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26160 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:28:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12mX74-000Igr-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:28:59 +0100 Message-ID: <8V6t9BAYCgD5EwDu@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:09:28 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: Tour I - Results MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear BritDisc, BUF Ultim8 Tour, Event I (Swindon) The pitches turned out to be in great condition despite the last week of rain, the sun came out with a vengeance, the serving staff at the all- day BBQ wore waistcoats and bow-ties, and there were some entertaining match results... It seems to me that the Swindon event marked the beginning of a great year of Ultimate. Wayne LOST PROPERTY: Chris has a pile that he has taken home. If you've lost something, contact him, and he'll have a dig for it... The old pile that's already in his garage (from most of last years tournaments) will be heading for a charity shop in the near future. RESULTS: SOTG: Jedi 1 Doughboy 2 Catch 22 (formerly known as Catch 22) 3 Deep South Mentality 4 Chevron Action Flash 5 UTI 6 Hammerage (formerly known as First Touch) 7 Fluid Druids 8 Blue Arse Flies 9 Red 10 Headrush 11 Ro-Sham-Bo 12 Strange Blue 13 Fusion (formerly known as SOUP) 14 Point Blank 15 Nightfever 16 Sharks 17 Skunks 18 Superfly 19 Mild Mannered Janitors 20 GB Juniors 21 More Mild Mannered Janitors 22 Blue Arse Flies CoEd 23 Slipdisc 24 Swamp Donkeys 25 Hazefly (another Superfly team) 26 Mud Culture 27 Jedi 28 Angels 29 GB Women 30 Yorkie Bar Kids 31 Sheffield Cardiff Alliance 32 Bears 33 Mohawks _____________________________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes layoutDREAMS Wayne Retter +44/0-1452-380529 LayoutDreams@eGroups.com +44/0-1737-242109 http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/layoutdreams/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 09:57:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA03441 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:55:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03415 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:55:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA06663 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:55:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue May 2 01:54:26 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:54:26 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@england.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Funny Flowers X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris Dixon wrote: >>It is stupid, thoughtless incidents like this >>that will continually blight our sport. > >Stupid? >Thoughtless? > >This is a Herb Farm we're talking about. > >The Quill >Fish I do SO hope you meant that tongue-in-cheek, but even then your comment is not helpful. What we're talking about here is effectively a criminal offence. Whether it was nicking a pot plant from a Herb Farm or holding up one of the pubs at gunpoint, it could be an item for the Ultimate 'rap sheet' and we're likely to be "Guilty until proven innocent" - the coincidence factor is not in our favour. Allied Dunbar (the owners of the pitches) and BARC (the owners of the camping field) like to keep the locals happy. If that means that they refuse to have any future dealings with Ultimate in Swindon, that's what they'll do. That won't be good. Wayne --- Wayne Retter Layout Dreams __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 10:36:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA17301 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:34:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16982 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:33:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway1.sema.co.uk (gateway1.sema.co.uk [194.216.60.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16532 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:33:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from lonns01.sema.co.uk ([157.203.40.61]) by gateway1.sema.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26157 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:30:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from lones1.sema.co.uk (unverified) by lonns01.sema.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 02 May 2000 10:26:43 +0100 Received: by lones1.sema.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:39:11 +0100 Message-Id: From: "MUDGE, Damian" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Help - Lift to Brugge needed! Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:39:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all. Does anyone going to Brugge this weekend have room in their car for me to get a lift with them? I live in Reading so could probably get to a fair number of pickup points that would be en-route for most people. Cheers, Damo Druids ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 11:06:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA27659 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 11:01:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27635 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 11:00:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f229.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.229]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA22890 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 11:00:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22009 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 10:00:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000502100020.22008.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.67.40 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 02 May 2000 03:00:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.40] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Student Womens REMINDER Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 03:00:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Student Womens Ultimate have been given the opportunity to join the Junior Outdoor Tournament on May 13th and 14th 2000 Please let me know if there are any teams out that are interested in playing. There is the possibility of entering 4 to 6 teams. If you are unable to enter a team please let me know as I am happy to arrange a couple of hat/pick up teams together for the weekend. INFO: Costs £50 + plus £12 BUF tax Location: Longford Hall, Newport, Shropshire Accommodation: Camping available Friday and Saturday night Other info: No camp fires please. Captain's meeting at 09:30, games starting at 10. Sunday games start at 9:30, presentations over by 17:00. If you are interested in playing or entering a team, please contact me by 4th May 2000. Many Thanks Vanessa White Womens Co-Ordinator ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 16:16:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA26797 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:14:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26787 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:14:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22407 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:14:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12meN7-0002nJ-00; Tue, 02 May 2000 16:14:01 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 2 May 00 16:14:01 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 2 May 00 16:14:00 +0100 From: "Pete Coy" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 16:13:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Student AGM X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 0100,0100,0100Hi Just thought I'd take this opportunity to remind you all about the Student AGM at Bakewell this weekend. The main items are the election of a new student co-ordinator (maybe somebody who can spell!), and deciding what to do with the regions (if you wont be at finals its important you have your say on this issue before we decide). In case you have forgotten here are the proposed changes. Five regions, Scotland, the North, Midlands, South East and Sou= th WestTimes New Roman To create the new region of the North Sheffield and Manchester= should be included in the North, Sheffield and Manchester being far closer to teams such as Leeds than they were to Warwick. To compensate for the lose of Sheffield and Manchester, Oxford should be included within the Midlands, being closer to Warwick than either Manchester or Sheffield were. Furthermore Skunks (Southampton) should become part of the South West Region, as it was pointed out that it only took one and a half hours to get from Exeter to Southampton. This then leaves us with 5 regions looking like this: Scotland. Falling Skies (Aberdeen) The North. Discip= les (Bradford) Far Flung (Glasgow) = Fingers 6 (Manchester) Flatball Project (St=92 Andrews) Phat=92= eds (Sheffield) Ro-Sham-Bo (Edinburgh) Jedi Chil= dren (Leeds) Shooting Stars (Dundee) Northern Lights= (Durham) The Source (Strathclyde) = The Fish (Lancaster) Dross Magic (Stirling) Yorkie = Bar Kids (York) Hulltimate (Hull) = New Team (Liverpool) The Midlands. = The South West. Purple Haze (Loughborough) = Mythago (Bristol) Superfly (Nottingham) = No Frills (Cardiff) G7 (Grantham) = Sublime Patriots (Portsmouth) Jesters (Leicester) Sku= nks (Southampton) Bears (Warwick) = Uriel (Exeter) Mwnci See (Aberystwyth) = UWE (UWE) OW! (Oxford) = FUBAR (Cheltenham) Birmingham The South East. Strange Blue (Cambridge) Jesus College (Cambridge) Disc Doctors (Imperial) Falcons (Brunel) Mohawks (Sussex) None of the Above (King=92s College) Toxic Ninja Attack (Canterbury) Under Cover Lovers (UCL) Surreal Genocide (Guildford) Finals remaining as 16 team event, with 3 qualifying places = for each region, and an extra qualifying place going to the region from which the previous years winner came. This would not mean an automatic place for the previous years winner, but rather an extra team qualifying from their region. Pete 0100,0100,0100Arial From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 2 17:21:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA18096 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:19:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18087 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:19:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from Admin.icm-computer.co.uk (mail.mediavestman.co.uk [195.200.148.211]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28059 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:19:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mediavestman.co.uk (unverified) by Admin.icm-computer.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:15:42 +0100 Received: from ENGMANMC-Message_Server by mediavestman.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:16:08 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:15:43 +0100 From: "Shaun Lohman" To: Subject: Manchester contact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA18089 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone please mail me the contact details for fingers or chevy! 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 3 12:30:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA28046 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:27:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27930 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:26:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10327 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:26:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12mxIX-0003k4-00; Wed, 03 May 2000 12:26:33 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 3 May 00 12:26:31 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 3 May 00 12:26:16 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:26:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoors X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is the final list of teams expected at the student outdoors this weekend at Bakewell. In keeping with the recent growth in student ultimate an unprecedented 36 teams have entered and been accepted. In no particular order the teams are...... 1. Phat Eds 2. Skunks 3. Ow 4. Jedi 5. Bears 6. Jestres 7. Mythago 8. Ro-Sham-Bo 9. Far Flung 10. Yorkie Bar Kids 11. Brunel Falcons 12. Mwnci See 13. Sublime Patriots 14. Picnic in the Sky 15. Superfly 16. Mohawks 17. Purple Haze 18. Bradford Disciples 19. Disc Doctors 20. Northern Lights 21. Flatball Project 22. Falling Skies 23. Shooting Stars 24. Fingers 6 25. Fish 26. UWE 27. Strange Blue 28. Phat Eds 2 29. Skunks 2 30. Jedi 2 31. Bears 2 32 Bears 3 33. Jesters 2 34. Mythago 2 35. Ro-Sham-Bo 2 36. Far Flung 2 The tournament has now been scheduled up so I'd like to avoid any late withdrawls if at all possible. Money wise .... Shooting Stars and UWE your cheques have not yet arrived. Can you please bring them on the day. Strange Blue I'm not expecting anything through the post from you so can you please bring your money at the weekend as well. Any problems with directions or information e mail myself or Pete Coy and we'll do our best to sort it out. Due to the volume of team I'm afraid first games are at 8.30 on the saturday. I'll send an E Mail out tomorrow telling you who is playing at that time. The weather looks good and I'll be there from about 5 on the friday night. See you there Rob ( Phat Eds, DSM ) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 3 14:18:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA02857 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:13:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02851 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:13:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from trolley.tesco.net (trolley.tesco.net [194.73.73.166]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21245 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:13:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.30.235] (helo=ianstebb) by trolley.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12myxk-0002mC-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:13:12 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bfb501$c53bf960$eb1eac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Tour 2 reminder Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:14:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There are still a number of teams who have not entered Tour 2 at this time. Remember- the deadline for cheques is this Friday- and I get my post a 7am!!! Don't miss your chance to try out this new (and what should be a premier) facility. Loads of food, beer, ultimate, party, camping- all on one site. Cheques for £90 to- Nancy Stebbing 10 Buckingham Road Brackley Northants NN13 7HH From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 3 18:01:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA18551 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:58:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18543 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:58:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway1.sema.co.uk (gateway1.sema.co.uk [194.216.60.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17323 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:58:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from lonns01.sema.co.uk ([157.203.40.61]) by gateway1.sema.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04059 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 17:55:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from lones1.sema.co.uk (unverified) by lonns01.sema.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 03 May 2000 17:51:20 +0100 Received: by lones1.sema.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 3 May 2000 18:03:50 +0100 Message-Id: From: "MUDGE, Damian" To: britdisc Subject: RE: Brugge lift Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 18:03:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all those who responded - I've now got a lift. 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Best Wishes Christopher Scott From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 11:05:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA10472 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:56:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09935 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:55:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13729 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:55:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from tk761e24.brookes.ac.uk (cs3 [161.73.1.2]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16402; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:56:01 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <200005040956.KAA16402@brookes.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Fwd: female juniors Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:55:27 GB-Eire X-Mailer: Brookes WebMail v2.0 X-Originating-IP: 161.73.113.35 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Female juniors and GB Junior's Manager, The following email is fairly self-explanatory. If you are interested perhaps you could talk firstly to the GB Junior's Manager about this. It's obviously a great opportunity to play alongside other female junior players but we don't want to dilute the talent of the GB Junior squad! Tara > Hi Tara! > > Congratulations about winning Paganello this year! I didn't have a chance to say that to you in Italy. > There's one thing that I'm asking you to do. I suppose you've heard we made the > girls division happen. There's four countries (Finland, Sweden, USA and > Canada) that have enough girls. So everything was going just fine until > today. Canada pulled out because they don't have enough players. They have > 12 and 3 of them are over aged. I can't accept that all my work I've done > for this is nothing. So now I'm asking if you could help me and the > Canadians. Do you have a few girl juniors that would like to go to > WUGC2000??? I heard that GB has some. Can you please help us?! > > Yours > Laura Salmikivi > Maitotytot > Espoo > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 12:17:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA14480 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:14:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14459 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:14:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from receipt ([194.73.73.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20975 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:14:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.23.1] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12nJaa-0002vk-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:14:40 +0100 Message-ID: <005901bfb5ba$313589c0$0117ac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: tour 2 entrants so far Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:13:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK- due to popular demand, here are the teams that have sent cheques for Tour 2. I haven't checked on your BUF tax payment, so I can only say I THINK you are all set. GB Women 2000 GB Juniors (withdrawn) Hammerage Skunks UTI BAF open BAF co-ed Fever Chevron Action Flash Fusion Headrush Point Blank Fluid Druids Red Mud Culture Doughboy cheques in the mail or coming soon.... SCA Swamp Donkeys Stange Blue Superfly Hazefly Bears If you want to play and you haven't sent a cheque yet- let me know you're coming!!! There's plenty of room for all- come enjoy it! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 12:29:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA20438 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:28:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20352 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:28:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from postbox.kscl.com ([195.44.196.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22894 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:28:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from airmail.kscl.com (unverified) by postbox.kscl.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:22:37 +0100 Received: by airmail.kscl.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:23:59 +0100 Message-ID: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E094701C70DD8@letterbox.kscl.com> From: Fraser Macrae To: "'Jonnie Burden'" , "'MAX - Mark Maxham'" , "'Sankurie Pye'" , "'BritDisc'" Subject: not a hoax - virus warning Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:20:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk story taken from www.zdnet.co.uk Before you do anything today... 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 12:31:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA20902 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:29:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20889 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:29:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f99.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.99]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA23056 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:29:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 86805 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 2000 11:29:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000504112901.86804.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 163.1.103.107 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 04 May 2000 04:29:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [163.1.103.107] From: "Emily J. Lyons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Paganello Pics Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 07:29:01 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey there Ultimate fans! If you're in withdrawl from the sun, sand and sea of Rimini, check out the photos on this page: http://home.wanadoo.nl/ultimate/Paga2000/gallery.htm There are some great shots of Bliss and Kupa in the Finals!! Speaking of KUPA, does anyone out there have Janet's e-mail address? Here's to a summer of Ultimate! Hux, Emily Ow! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 13:01:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA02195 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:59:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02176 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:59:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07643 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:59:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12nKID-0003xV-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:59:46 +0000 Subject: London League closing date Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:02:49 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi London Summer League starts next Wednesday. Teams must be registered with me by this Saturday morning as I'm going to write a schedule over the weekend. This is the last call folks, so I thought it only fair to mention it on BritDisc. More information at http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ Thanks Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt London Ultimate League http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 13:17:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA08053 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:16:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08035 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:16:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00697 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:16:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id NAA28248; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:15:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 04 May 2000 13:15:56 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 13:15:41 +0100 From: "Olivier Cottray" To: Subject: COEDCAM 2000 -clarifications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA08038 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi bd- A couple of points of clarification for teams entering the Cambridge Coed tournament (June 3-4). 1. Please make out cheques to 'CU Ultimate Frisbee Club' (this is different to the name we gave previously); for those cheques already in the post i'll get in touch with you individually- 2. All entries and expressions of interest should go to me, Olivier Cottray as Alexa will be away for the next couple of weeks. email: ojco@bas.ac.uk get in touch soon, and see you here! olivier From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 15:02:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA24105 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:00:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24088 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:00:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20809 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:00:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12nMAQ-0002Db-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:59:50 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12nM9l-0006yl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:59:09 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2PBWQ4WV>; Thu, 4 May 2000 14:59:22 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE027164FE@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: lift from sheffield? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:59:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk aright all!! erm, could anyone going to student outdoors possibly help me out here? we got three peeps (could make this 2 if pushed) arriving at sheffield coach station at 9:40 on friday night who need to get to bakewell. Is there anyone out there who could squash 'em in?? thanks all!! tom (secretary, discdoctors) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 17:16:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA16546 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16528 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15290 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Thu, 4 May 2000 17:13:54 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20051; Thu, 4 May 00 17:13:49 BST Message-Id: <10005041613.AA20051@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:13:46 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: 4 nationals TENERIFE X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thought I'd forward this from Eurodisc in case anyone is interested, I've played with Valerio a couple of times and can vouch for him being a thoroughly decent chap, Pete Connor Red >Hi, >this is Valerio, from La Fotta, Bologna, Italy. >After 1 year with Patatas Bravas, Barcelona, at the moment I live in >Tenerife, Canary Islands, Spain. >Since there isn't Ultimate here, I am trying to make up a team. >Difficult thing in the soccer-land, you now. >But I have been working on it: I'm talking with sport teachers, I' m >playing in schools, I'm going to start an Ultimate course at the >University on May. > >I'd like to organise a Tournament in July at the University of La >Laguna: an old style Ultimate tournament. >Talking with friends about growing Ultimate, always comes out the >same problem: make it always more popular or keep it small. >I got my choice, my egoist choice. I need to play, I need to make up >a team, more teams, I need make popular Ultimate, BUT with the >primitive Spirit of Ultimate, no a big-gold-business tournament, but >just an old style tournament. > >Old style for me means: >- make a cheap and good-organised tournament (cheap can be not bad) >- play in a very good field >- respect the Spirit of the Game ( Spirit isn't a >grandfather-boring thing, as well as, the good Spirit of a team >doesn't correspond to how strong it parties) > >So, the Worlds will start on August, do you know any better way to >practice than playing in a perfect-grass field in a free-fees >tournament in Tenerife?? >4 National Teams (I'd like four Master Teams, because, I'm sure, >they mix the best playing with the best Spirit), fighting for one >weekend, showing to Canary people how Ultimate can be a spectacular >and a hard sport. >Food and accommodations are free, as well. > >The University will give me a confirmation for the field in a couple of weeks. >Let me know if there are National Teams (in particular Master) that >are interested. >Thanks, see you soon > >Valerio-bleifrei > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 4 22:26:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA28550 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 4 May 2000 22:25:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28537 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 22:25:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.174]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04942 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 22:24:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-175.kleins-butterfly.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.216.175] helo=default) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12nT79-0008CY-00 for britdisc@warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 04 May 2000 22:24:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bfb60e$fafdd600$eeff883e@default> From: "Wayne Davey" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Do you want a lift to Brugges? Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 22:18:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFB616.BBA742E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFB616.BBA742E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Due to a very last minute cancellation I've got room to give someone a = lift to Brugges tomorrow (ie Friday) night to get the 9.45pm ferry from = Dover. Coming back Sunday night. If you would like a cheap trip (=A350-=A360) then give me a call (07957 = 482 029) as soon as possible. Wayne Davey ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFB616.BBA742E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Due to a very last minute cancellation I've got room = to give=20 someone a lift to Brugges tomorrow (ie Friday) night to get the 9.45pm = ferry=20 from Dover. Coming back Sunday night.
 
If you would like a cheap trip (=A350-=A360) then = give me a call=20 (07957 482 029) as soon as possible.
 
Wayne Davey
 
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BFB616.BBA742E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 5 13:27:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA07611 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:24:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07599 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:24:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16398 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:24:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from slippery ([199.172.153.106]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000505122410.DDQJ16936.ewey.excite.com@slippery>; Fri, 5 May 2000 05:24:10 -0700 Message-ID: <32086283.957529450274.JavaMail.imail@slippery> Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 05:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamie Crick To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, eurodisc@ira.uka.de Subject: Pick up at Bruges Cc: pookas@egroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite UK Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.120.136.106 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone is looking for a team this weekend, The Pookas (Dublin) have a couple of free spots. Let us know by email, or just come and see us on the pitches. We'll be the ones wearing green and dropping the disc. Cheers, Jamie _______________________________________________________ Get 100% private, FREE email for life from Excite UK Visit http://inbox.excite.co.uk/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 5 16:23:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA08154 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:20:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08140 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:20:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01773 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:20:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.66.251] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12njtT-00021v-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 5 May 2000 16:19:55 +0100 Message-ID: <005301bfb6a5$d11c11c0$fb428cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: tour 2 camping and food Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:21:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just for those of you thinking ahead-- There is camping available both Friday and Saturday night at the Racecourse. If you are planning to camp on Friday, could you please let me know, as I need a rough estimate of the number of people showing up for the guy who lives in the gatehouse. Final arangements have been made for the food. During the day, there will be five food trucks operating, serving burgers, oriental food, fish and chips, toasties, and crepes. These trucks will also be operating for the evening meals, plus there will be a hog roast. Towcester is a small town, with only a couple of curry houses, a few pubs, and one or two other restaraunts, so you should consider having dinner at the Racecourse. It's a pay-your-own-way kind of thing, so hopefully everyone can find something that appeals to them and they can afford. The bar will be open from 5:30pm, in addition to pitchside beer. DJ starts at 9pm. Last orders at midnight. Come have a good time. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 07:54:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA27533 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27526 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27013 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA10012 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 8 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200005080647.HAA10012@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 13th May 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that the date may vary from team to team. The May 2000 session will generally be a 2-day event with each team gathering on their own. This will be scheduled by the relevant Division Manager. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dive Hard IV (2000) (2 days) @ Gšteborg (Gothenburg), Sweden [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Bjšrn Johansson Email divehard2000@hotmail.com National Junior Outdoors (2 days) @ Newport, Shropshire [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that this event is open to student women's teams. Contact Kevin Lowe Email Kev@cheerful.com Phone 07974 417626 Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Southampton [Golf] Contact Billy Ault Phone 01705 618 650 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 3rd June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Cambridge [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Olivier Cottray Email ojco@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Phone (01223) 503 738 [H]; (01223) 221 203 Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 09:37:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA16595 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:34:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16521 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:33:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04059 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:33:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 May 2000 09:32:46 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 09:32:26 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Alan Harding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id JAA16528 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry britdisc, Can Alan Harding please get in touch with me, or if anyone has a current e-mail address for him could they pass it on to me. Thanks Matt Swamp Donkeys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 13:57:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA13123 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:55:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13115 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:55:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1802.mail.yahoo.com (web1802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27025 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:55:30 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 25408 invoked by uid 60001); 8 May 2000 12:55:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508125510.25407.qmail@web1802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.11.101.43] by web1802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 08 May 2000 05:55:10 PDT Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 05:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jonathan=20Pearce?= Subject: Hayling Island Disc Golf!!!!!!!!! To: Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As an avid Pompey (Portsmouth) fa, I am disgusted to see that the disc golf tournament is listed under Southampton. This is disgusting, since they are scum of the earth. Hayling Island is as much a part of Portsmouth as a drunk sailor looking for some quick releif in a dark alley. Get it right! Convoy (Jedi & Point Blank) Play up Pompey, Pompey play up! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 14:29:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA23300 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:27:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23285 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:27:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from ans2-pub.dttus.com (ans2-pub.dttus.com [204.151.11.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07644 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 14:27:16 +0100 (BST) Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com id IAA28448 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Mon, 8 May 2000 08:27:09 -0500 Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com (Internal Mail Agent-3); Mon, 8 May 2000 08:27:09 -0500 X400-Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com (Internal Mail Agent-2); Mon, 8 May 2000 08:27:09 -0500 X400-Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 8 May 2000 08:27:09 -0500 X400-Mts-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=TeleMail/prmd=Deloitte/; 042EB3916BFF80D3-MTAUSBNA1DT] Content-Identifier: 042EB3916BFF80D3 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text, (2)(6)(1)(12)(0), (2)(16)(840)(1)(113694)(2)(2)(1)(1) Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: hmyers@dttus.com X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <042EB3916BFF80D3*/c=US/admd=TeleMail/prmd=Deloitte/o=ccMailGW/s=hmyers/@MHS> Date: 08 May 2000 08:24:08 -0500 From: Helen Myers To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Subject: Janus 2001 - fancy playing a tournament in Florida ? 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA --PART.BOUNDARY.bna1.4a16.3916bff9.0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes --------------------------- From: Helen Myers at DTT.US.TAMPA Date: 5/8/00 7:54AM *To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk at INTERNET-USA *To: fraserm@kscl.com at INTERNET-USA *To: james.hewitson@zurich.co.uk at INTERNET-USA *To: merrick.cardew@g4tech.co.uk at INTERNET-USA *To: nadya.hewitson@vf.vodafone.co.uk at INTERNET-USA *To: pdreyer@dimacs.rutgers.edu at INTERNET-USA *To: RJSaunders@compuserve.com at INTERNET-USA *To: splitter@madasafish.com at INTERNET-USA Subject: Janus 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --PART.BOUNDARY.bna1.4a16.3916bff9.0001-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 15:18:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA09903 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:17:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09889 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:17:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA14884 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 15:16:57 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA01720 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Mon, 8 May 2000 15:01:54 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 8 May 2000 15:01:54 +0100 Message-Id: <002101bfb8f8$3b6777a0$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Helen Myers" , Subject: Re: Janus 2001 - fancy playing a tournament in Florida ? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:18:05 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, Blue Arse Flies attended the Janus tournament in January 2000 and we had an absolutely great time. The party on the beach on Saturday night was worth turning up for on it's own ! OK so it meant we ran out of steam a bit on Sunday but it did mean we could get back to the beach nice and early ! I can't think of anywhere I'd rather spend the first week in January !! Balti BAF 34 -----Original Message----- From: Helen Myers To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk ; D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Date: 08 May 2000 14:57 Subject: Janus 2001 - fancy playing a tournament in Florida ? > > > Think this should get through this time ... > > Please see attached ... > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 16:49:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA11570 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:47:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11565 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:47:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f295.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.173]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA25555 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 16:47:37 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 53597 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 15:47:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20000508154700.53596.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 129.11.119.146 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 May 2000 08:47:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.119.146] From: "Matthew Hims" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lost vans at Swindon. Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 08:47:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry Britdisc, A pair of Blue/black trainers (Vans) went missing from the sideline of the finals pitch in Swindon. Have checked usual sources, did anyone pick them up by mistake? Thank you Gaffer Catch 22 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 19:50:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA27162 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:49:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27157 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:49:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from trolley.tesco.net (trolley.tesco.net [194.73.73.166]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15676 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:49:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.85.49] (helo=ianstebb) by trolley.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12osZy-0001KJ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 8 May 2000 19:48:31 +0100 Message-ID: <005501bfb91e$750b5e60$31558cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Tour 2 entrants Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:33:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk So far, 30 teams are entered for Tour 2, with one maybe entrant. If you want to play, I will accept a late entry. Get in touch by Wednesday. Teams with their shit together (i.e. have sent cheques): GBW Bears Hammerage Skunks UTI BAF open BAF coed Fever Chevron Fusion Headrush Point Blank Fluid Druids Red Mud Culture Doughboy Stange Blue Superfly Hazefly Mild Mannered Janitors More Mild Mannered Janitors Angels Slipdisc Yorkie Bar Kids Sharks Catch 22 DSM Mowhawks Teams that almost have their shit together (i.e. said they are coming but haven't put up any money yet): Swamp Donkeys Jedi Teams that can't find their shit and need to get in touch: SCA See you there, nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 8 21:08:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA13778 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:07:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13763 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:07:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20836 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 21:07:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from 212.159.148.18 [212.159.148.18] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk); Mon, 8 May 2000 21:07:45 +0100 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Mon, 8 May 00 21:07:45 +0100 Message-ID: <39171EB1.7ACD@totalise.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 21:08:17 +0100 From: jack goolden Reply-To: jgoolden@totalise.co.uk Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-VM711-000 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brit disc Subject: London League Pick Up Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've just moved to London and would like to pick up with a team for the London League. Jack Chevron jgoolden@totalise.co.uk mobile 07968 720331 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 00:13:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA16812 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:11:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16792 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:11:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25463 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:11:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12owg5-0004Si-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 09 May 2000 00:11:05 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12owg5-00019c-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 9 May 2000 00:11:05 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: janus 2001 Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:11:05 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In case anyone had difficulty with the microsoft document about florida, here is some plain text information...... What - Janus 2001! When - January 6 & 7 Where - Walter Fuller Park, St Petersburg, FL (Probably location - subject to relocate in the Tampa Area) http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Pressbox/1012/janus2001.htm yours David p.s. I'm planning to go. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 10:28:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA06968 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:26:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06954 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:26:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21731 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:26:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by ursa.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 12p6HQ-00055s-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:26:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:28:18 +0100 Subject: Tour 2 BUF deposits From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all Nancy has just put out the list of Tour 2 entrants HOWEVER, the following teams have not sent me their BUF deposit for this tournament. Hammerage Skunks Chevron Doughboy Angels Yorkie Bar Kids Sharks DSM Mohawks Could representatives from these teams get in touch immediately. You cannot enter the Tour unless you pay your deposits. Some of you may have paid Chris Hughes but if you read the information that was sent out you are actually supposed to send it to me for Tours 2-4. Looking forward to hearing from all of you SOON. Dora Kemp McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 10:36:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA09551 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:35:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09540 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:35:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk ([193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA04450 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:35:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:34:02 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 10:33:44 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Ben Ravilious Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA09541 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben, could you let me know details of the times for the Leicester summer league. Sorry to the rest of you who this doesn't concern. Matt Lowe From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 11:08:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA21177 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:06:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21142 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:06:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10376 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:06:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-1.sbs.demon.net ([193.195.0.131]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12p6uL-000GhV-0W; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:06:29 +0100 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 12p6t3-000Ngm-00; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:06:28 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Matthew Lowe'" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ben Ravilious Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:00:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Matt, Sorry to bother you with this but have you ever heard of an address book?? Max p.s. Sorry britdisc. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Lowe [mailto:Matthewl@fisher.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 10:34 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ben Ravilious Ben, could you let me know details of the times for the Leicester summer league. Sorry to the rest of you who this doesn't concern. Matt Lowe From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 11:11:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA22537 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:09:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22432 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:09:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28637 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:09:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 May 2000 11:08:42 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:08:25 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: SORRY Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id LAA22434 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry britdisc, I didn't mean to offend you all. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. However, I don't have net access and the lack of snail mail contact in the sport means I only get to keep in touch via britdisc. True I could keep better records of peoples e-mails, but when I get 75-100 a day through work my inbox has to be cleared very often, and my address book is controlled by admin. If Ultimate is going to be a web only sport then fair enough, I'll take up another sport. Sorry again, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 11:21:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA26207 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:18:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26140 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:18:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00111 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:18:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailer.york.ac.uk (mailer.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.96]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06252; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:17:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:17:29 +0100 (BST) From: Yorkie Bar Kids To: Dora Kemp cc: britdisc Subject: Re: Tour 2 BUF deposits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dora, I sent you the cheque for our deposit (Yorkie Bar Kids) last week.(Thursday I think). If it hasn`t arrived by the end of this week email us back and we will send you another, but as far as we were concerned we had payed. Cheers Tom -- Yorkie Bar Kids socs311@york.ac.uk On Tue, 9 May 2000, Dora Kemp wrote: > Hi all > > Nancy has just put out the list of Tour 2 entrants HOWEVER, the following > teams have not sent me their BUF deposit for this tournament. > > Hammerage > Skunks > Chevron > Doughboy > Angels > Yorkie Bar Kids > Sharks > DSM > Mohawks > > Could representatives from these teams get in touch immediately. You cannot > enter the Tour unless you pay your deposits. Some of you may have paid Chris > Hughes but if you read the information that was sent out you are actually > supposed to send it to me for Tours 2-4. > > Looking forward to hearing from all of you SOON. > > Dora Kemp > > McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, > CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 12:22:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA17102 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:20:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17086 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:20:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08752 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:20:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22928 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:20:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from B45A-04.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45a-04.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.8]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e49BJxi23895 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:20:00 +0100 (BST) From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Womens Outdoor Nationals Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:19:53 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id MAA17087 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Women's Outdoor Nationals 2000 July 1st/2nd Venue: Southampton, Wellington Sports Ground Camping is available. Cost £80 per team Payment deadline. 10th June Please send cheques made payable to: H S Pennington, 39 Portswood Road Portswood Southampton S017 2ET 023 80678147 With the completed entry form. Any problems please contact me. Cheers Sally (Skunks) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Entry Form: Team Name Team Contact Name Address Tel. No. Email. ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 12:27:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA20249 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20222 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23937 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12p89R-0005Vf-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:09 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12p89T-0004B0-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:11 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:55 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE0271650A@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: yo britdisc!! Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:26:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk aright all!! Do people really have to bitch about getting one or two irrelevant mails a day?? I know some of you guys are busy business people, who don't have much spare time, but surely you can put up with a few irrelevances which are helping out fellow ultimate players! I myself have an extremely busy schedule, and can hardly spare a single second out of my hectic regime, but I can scan and delete a mail in about 3 or four seconds (and you can too, with practise). so come on all, lets be nice to each other!! now I gotta get some breakfast quick, neighbours is nearly on! laters tom From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 14:45:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA05788 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:37:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05746 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:37:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24707 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 14:37:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12pACS-0003d8-00; Tue, 09 May 2000 14:37:24 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 9 May 00 14:37:24 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 9 May 00 14:37:16 +0100 From: "Pete Coy" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:37:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: AGM report X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <62CA34D1F@blackmoor.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 0100,0100,0100Just in case you missed the AGM held a= t Student Outdoors this weekend heres what happened. We elected a new student co-ordinator to take over in september, Tim Blair (Mwnci see). Congratulations and the best of luck. It was agreed that the format of the regions should be changed, dividing the old region 'Scotland and the North' to create a seperate region for Scotland, and a new region 'The North'. See below for a more detailed explanation. Questions were raised about the status of student ultimate players and clubs with regard to the proposed move from a Federation to an Association. Times New RomanThis then leaves us w= ith 5 regions looking like this: Scotland. Falling Skies (Aberdeen) The North. Disciple= s (Bradford) Far Flung (Glasgow) = Fingers 6 (Manchester) Flatball Project (St=92 Andrews) Phat=92= eds (Sheffield) Ro-Sham-Bo (Edinburgh) Jedi Chi= ldren (Leeds) Shooting Stars (Dundee) Northern Lights = (Durham) The Source (Strathclyde) = Fish (Lancaster) Dross Magic (Stirling) Yorkie= Bar Kids (York) Hulltimate (Hull) = New Team (Liverpool) The Midlands. The Sout= h West.0100,0100,0100 Purple Haze (Loughborough) = Mythago (Bristol) Superfly (Nottingham) = No Frills (Cardiff) G7 (Grantham) = Picnic (Plymouth) Jesters (Leicester) = Skunks (Southampton) Bears (Warwick) = Uriel (Exeter) Mwnci See (Aberystwyth) = UWE (UWE) OW! (Oxford) = FUBAR (Cheltenham) Birmingham The South East. Strange Blue (Cambridge) Jesus College (Cambridge) Disc Doctors (Imperial) Falcons (Brunel) Mohawks (Sussex) None of the Above (King=92s College) Toxic Ninja Attack (Canterbury) Under Cover Lovers (UCL) Surreal Genocide (Guildford) Sublime Patriots (Portsmouth) The crfeation of five regions means that 3 teams from each regi= on qualify for indoor finals with an extra place being awarded to the region the winning team game from last year. Thus for student indoor finals 2001 the midlands will have the extra qualifying place Warwick Bears having won national indoors this year. Pete National Student Co-ordinator. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 17:11:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA27771 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:10:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27759 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:10:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13388 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:10:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12pCaC-0001kl-01; Tue, 09 May 2000 17:10:04 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 9 May 00 17:10:05 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 9 May 00 17:09:50 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: BRITDISC@csv.warwick.ac.uk, STUDENT-ULTIMATE@egoups.com, SIWEEKS@bigfoot.com, FRA96JLH@sheffield.ac.uk Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:09:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student Outdoor Results X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This weekend saw the student outdoor finals at Bakewell. Played all weekend under gloriously sunny skies the event saw 31 teams battle it out to be champions. The initial group stages saw few surprises with most teams playing to their seedings. A notable exception were Northern Lights who with excellent victories over Mwnci See and Strange Blue came top of their pool. The final games on Saturday saw the top 16 playing off for the quater finals. Pre tournament favourites Warwick Bears, Ro-Sham- Bo and Phat Eds all saw off their challengers with relative ease. After a series of tough quarter finals in which the Mohawks ran the Bears close before eventuaally losing in the cap the semi's stood as.. Ro-Sham-Bo v Jedi Phat Eds v Bears A much underestimated Leeds team had so far gone unoticed. With some inspired defence and accurate hucking Jedi took an insurmountable early lead and while Ro-Sham-Bo came back strongly in the second half of the game it proved too much and a jubilant Jedi team had got the chance to defend their trophy in the final. The Bears, Phat Eds game was always likely to be a tough game and so it proved with a number of " interesting " calls characterising the early exchanges. Bears came out with their typical rage and steamed into a 4-0 lead thanks to some safe hands from Tom, Voodoo and Norm. Phat Eds changed their defence in response and started playing some Junk in what was becoming a tricky lead. The lead was eventually eroded and Phat Eds took a time out with a 9-8 lead. Switching back to man the final few points were frantic with numerous turnovers but Phat Eds won through to make it an all Yorkshire final. The final was by all accounts a classic after establishing an early 2- 0 lead the Phat Eds allowed themselves to be distracted and with Ben Silk and Bob leading the line Jedi struck back to take a three point lead which they then held to take the half 10-7. After the fhalf the Phat Eds raised their game and with key Jedi players tiring they took advantage and at the hooter the game was tied 11-11 with a two point cap. Jedi took the lead after a Jo Bolton point block on the Phat Eds line allowed an easy score and after turning over again it looked like a Jedi victory. However great handling from the Phat Eds back three of Steve Higgins, Karl Guard and Jesper Snoorgard kept the Phat Eds in it and the game went into sudden death. Jedi in possesion lost control of the disk on the halfway line and after working it into some space a huck in the zone allowed Dave Sealy to come down with the winning score. Thanks to all who came to make it such an excellent weekend. The full results are as follows.... 1. Phat Eds ( Champions ) 2. Jedi 3. Bears 4. Ro-Sham-Bo 5. OW 6. Mohawks 7. Far Flung 8. Mythago 9. Skunks ( Perpetual plate winners ) 10. Strange Blue 11. Purple Haze 12. Disc Doctors 13. Fish 14. Sublime Patriots 15. Northern Lights Spirit of the Game 16. Flatball project 17. Fingers 6 ( Bowl winners ) 18. Mwnci See 19. Yorkie Bar Kids 20. Picnic 21. Bears 2 22. Disciples 23. UWE 24. Skunks 2 25. Jedi 2 ( Spoon winners ) 26. Ro-Sham-Bo 2 27. Falling Skies 28. Phat Eds 2 29. Brunel Falcons 30. Mohawks 2 31. Mythago 2 I'll see you all at Tour 2 Rob ( Phat Eds, DSM ) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 9 18:46:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id SAA21522 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:44:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21515 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:44:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20172 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:44:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (pool2-pri1-024.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.164.154]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA04889 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:46:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <016a01bfb9de$e5fffb60$9aa492c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: Subject: Leicester Summer Session & Address Book Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:17:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk FYI:- Leicester Summer Sessions: Tuesday evenings 7pm Victoria Park (by the war memorial) followed by food/beer/quiz in the Old Horse pub. Re: Address books If the British Ultimate Association is approved we plan to make all players' contact details available via the website (there will of course be an opt-out for those who do not want to be visible). Should help cut down on this sort of thing though it seems a reasonable use of a list to me! Ben PS Max you old cat burglar - you should know better. PPS Bite me Britdisc ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Lowe To: Sent: 09 May 2000 10:33 Subject: Ben Ravilious > Ben, could you let me know details of the times for the Leicester summer league. > > Sorry to the rest of you who this doesn't concern. > > Matt Lowe > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 10 04:03:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id EAA04185 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 2000 04:02:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA04180 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 04:02:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f155.hotmail.com [216.32.181.155]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA17639 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 04:02:10 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 78260 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 2000 03:01:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000510030138.78259.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.193.51.151 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 09 May 2000 20:01:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.193.51.151] From: "Antony Marsh" To: tom.white@ic.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Busy schedule? Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:01:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk How can you have an "extremely busy schedule" yet only be grabbing breakfast at lunchtime? You should have gotten up earlier and worked on your disc-skills! Tony (OSU Beavers) >I myself have an extremely busy schedule, and can hardly spare a single >second out of my hectic regime, but I can scan and delete a mail in about 3 >or four seconds (and you can too, with practise). >now I gotta get some breakfast quick, neighbours is nearly on! > >laters >tom ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 10 13:26:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA15722 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:23:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15643 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:23:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05673 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:23:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12pVW0-0005pC-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:23:00 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:24:20 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EACCB@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Hong Kong Sevens 2000 Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:19:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Announcing the Mild Mannered Janitors' Hong Kong Sevens 2000, proudly part of the BUF/BUA Mixed Ultimate Series. It will take place at Boston Spa Grammar School on the 17/18 June 2000. Cost is 70 pounds per team, plus an extra 15 pounds per team for party tickets. Alternatively, the party tickets can be purchased for 2 pounds per player on the Saturday of the tournament. Cheques are to be made payable to 'Mild Mannered Janitors' and sent to: Arun Sharma 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Accommodation will be in the form of floor space provided on a first entered, first accommodated basis. Alternatively, you could find B&B type accommodation in the Headingley/University area of Leeds. We don't have an official list of places to stay, but you could try Leeds City Council website at http://www.leeds.gov.uk or YorkshireNet at http://www.yorkshirenet.co.uk There is space for 16 teams and about four have entered already, so get them cheques sent! Any queries - either email me (Ben) b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk or phone myself or Arun on 0113 224 9680 We look forward to seeing you in Yorkshire Ben Mitchell Chevron Action Flash Mild Mannered Janitors p.s. Hong Kong Sevens is NOT an Iron Man(or Woman) tournament From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 10 22:41:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA02995 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 May 2000 22:40:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02976 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 22:40:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from zairikia.mech.kyushu-u.ac.jp ([133.5.147.177]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10592 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 22:40:12 +0100 (BST) Received: by zairikia.mech.kyushu-u.ac.jp id GAA0000005828; Thu, 11 May 2000 06:38:56 +0900 (JST) To: @cswnet.com@zairikia.mech.kyushu-u.ac.jp Subject: An Invitation... 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 00:13:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id AAA23348 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 00:12:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23343 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 00:12:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29621 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 00:12:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (cst384.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.60]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27147; Thu, 11 May 2000 00:12:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3919ECC5.1EDBC5D3@york.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:12:05 +0100 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc , Youth List Subject: Lift to Junior Outdoors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Is anyone going to the Juniors on Saturday morning from the north that could give me a lift. I'm from York, but can get to most places, i.e. Leeds, Sheffield, Manchester, Birmingham etc. Any help would be much appreciated, and I am old enough to buy you a drink in the pub!! All offers considered!! Jaimie YBK, Swamp Donkeys, Juniors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 09:18:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id JAA11529 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 09:16:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11515 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 09:16:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12237 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 09:16:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06110 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 10:57:44 +0200 Message-ID: <391A7608.20F75BC1@paganello.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:57:44 +0200 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc Subject: Paganello On Air at MTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aloha, for those who may concern, please find below the time when "Stylissimo" (the show filmed at Paganello) will be broadcasted on MTV: *MTV Central (Germany): May 30th at 23.00 and June 4th at 17.00 (repetition) *MTV UK: May 13th at 12.00 and May 14th at 15.30 (repetition) *MTV Euro/Nordic: May 15th at 21.00 and May 21st at 18.30 (repetition) Euro/Nordic means: Denmark, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Sweden, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belgium (Flanders, Wallonia), Belarus, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Egypt, France, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Lebanon, Luxemburg, Malta, Moldova, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovac Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine and South Africa Have no idea about how it will be: hope it'll be fun and anyway sounds like a great chance to let a lot people know what Ultimate is. Have a good time! _Jumpi ---- the Beach Ultimate Experience is at: http://www.paganello.com "Now look at them yo-yo's that's the way you do it You play the guitar on the MTV That ain't workin' that's the way you do it Money for nothin' and chicks for free" (Dire Straits) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 10:41:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA08834 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 10:40:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08820 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 10:40:20 +0100 (BST) From: sally.riggs@ac.com Received: from locmr1001.ac.com ([212.161.27.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21543 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 10:40:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from emehm1102.ac.com (emehm1102.ac.com [10.136.100.147]) by locmr1001.ac.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25397; Thu, 11 May 2000 10:39:43 +0100 (BST) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Subject: Rimini @ MTV !!! To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: superfly@egroups.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:37:17 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EMEHM1102(Release 5.0.2b (Intl)|16 December 1999) at 11/05/2000 10:38:00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Beach lovers - watch this space! Please find below the time when "Stylissimo" (the show filmed at Paganello) will be broadcasted on MTV: *MTV Central (Germany): May 30th at 23.00 and June 4th at 17.00 (repetition) *MTV UK: May 13th at 12.00 and May 14th at 15.30 (repetition) *MTV Euro/Nordic: May 15th at 21.00 and May 21st at 18.30 (repetition) Euro/Nordic means: Denmark, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Sweden, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belgium (Flanders, Wallonia), Belarus, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Egypt, France, Georgia, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Lebanon, Luxemburg, Malta, Moldova, Monaco, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovac Republic, Slovenia, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine and South Africa Have no idea about how it will be: hope it'll be fun and anyway sounds like a great chance to let a lot people know what Ultimate is. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 11:11:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA18557 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:10:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18548 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:10:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA25329 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 11:10:31 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200005111010.LAA25329@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from [212.159.133.210] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk); Thu, 11 May 2000 11:10:59 +0100 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 11 May 00 11:10:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:11:29 +0100 Subject: looking for a room in South London From: "jack" To: brit disc Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Kate and myself have just moved to London. We are looking for a room somewhere near Clapham. If anybody has anything available, or knows of anywhere, please contact me. Jack Chevron jgoolden@totalise.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 12:37:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA17465 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:36:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17458 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:36:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07042 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:36:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from union.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.135.254]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12prGF-0003E9-01 for britdisc@warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:36:11 +0100 Received: from UNION/SpoolDir by union.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 11 May 00 12:36:10 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by UNION (Mercury 1.46); 11 May 00 12:35:59 +0100 From: "Sheffield Ultimate" To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:35:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: A team for Tour 2? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <2D3C8933FE1@union.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Unfortunately due to exams SCA do not have enough players to enter Tour 2. However there are 4 of us who would like to play at Tour 2 (not neccesarily on the same team) so if anyone is looking for pickups then let me know. Cheers Mark (Phat'Eds and SCA) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 14:37:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA00838 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00823 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11014 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12pt7L-0006n1-00; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:07 +0100 Received: from skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.158] ident=mackay) by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12pt7K-0002Lq-00; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:06 +0100 Received: (from mackay@localhost) by skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA13722; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:35:06 +0100 From: "David J.C. MacKay" Message-Id: <200005111335.OAA13722@skye.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: ultimate rules Cc: dan@arch.kth.se Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Have you read the new (April) ultimate rules yet? I've put them into a slightly more readable website, for your browsing convenience. http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/rules/ yours David Strange Blue p.s. Deadline for entering COED CAM 2000, the first B.U.F. coed tournament, is Friday May 26th See http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam/ for details. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 16:36:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA17034 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:35:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16989 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:35:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27996 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:35:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12puzL-000G3N-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:35:11 +0000 Subject: Fwd: Purchasing a disc Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:38:00 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone in the vicinity of Birmingham help this crew? Thanks Paul ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 11/5/00 4:07 pm Received: 11/5/00 4:23 pm From: G008 (J.APPLEBY), J.APPLEBY@eee-fs4.bham.ac.uk To: 'paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk', paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk Paul I'm a student at the University of Birmingham, and my department is taking part in an Ultimate tournament in June. Could you please tell me where I can purchase a decent Ultimate frisbee in my area, or let me know of someone who might know Cheers James ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- --------------------------------- Paul Hurt paul@ultimatum.demon.co.uk http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 20:37:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA15384 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:36:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA15373 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:36:45 +0100 (BST) From: bennykool@electronmail.com Received: from ferrari. (ferrari.dcb.interbusiness.it [151.99.252.252]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA02548 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:36:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from whiney by ferrari. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 20:56:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id UAA19311 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:55:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19304 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:55:45 +0100 (BST) From: richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23143 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:55:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-48.bar-en-danwedh.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.135.176] helo=jacksoniii) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12pz3g-0005Rq-00; Thu, 11 May 2000 20:55:44 +0100 To: , Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:58:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: To all Juniors and Women X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 0100,0100,0100Dear All, YES IT'S THE JUNIOR OUTDOORS@ Newport Shropshire Longford Hall be there @ 9:00am 13th & 14th May WE NEED YOU Come help make a great Junior and Women tournament this weekend. We don't want any namby pamby tournie we want all the players possible so we can all have great fun. Don't worry about having a team you could eaisly pick up for a team or make a couple of pick up teams for yourself. It only costs around =A35 to play so come and enjoy yourself. For getting to the tournie enqiries: Lewis Glover(Loopy) tel: 01705 79 12 74 if you can't connect to Lewis phone Richard's number provided below.(Code change in Portsmouth). For any other problams or enquiries phone Richard Jackson(Jacko) tel: 020 8958 9650 or Dan(Chewy)tel:Times New Roman01952 811 963 For those playing in Richard's,Ali's & Dan's team there will be no team kit so bring a Light & Dark shirt. Could all pick ups also bring the kit needed(above). See Ya All At Newport Richard Jackson (GB Junior & UP4GRABS) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 11 23:24:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA14681 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:23:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14673 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:22:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAB28667 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:22:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12q1M8-00008n-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:22:57 +0100 Message-ID: <+nSNxXAuFyG5Ewpn@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:09:02 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder References: <200005080647.HAA10012@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <200005080647.HAA10012@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary > --------------------------------------------- >Saturday 29th July 2000 > > An Open Tourney in Notts (2 days) > @ Nottingham > [Outdoor Ultimate] > > Contact Sam Rey > Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Hey Sam, Is this a definite? Wayne Retter PS: Everybody else, as yet there is still NO DEFINITE DATE for the Fluid Druids' Ross-on-Wye Tournament - but we are working on it (aren't we, Adam?), though it looks like we're not organised enough to have the Australian Women come visit (sorry girls, and Colin) PPS: Hey Lurkers, will you be holding a tournament again this year? Can somebody call Bud (in Oxford) and let him know, too... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 12 07:17:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA09754 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:16:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09747 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:16:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29462 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:16:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from kmcbglenn (dialup259.kortrijk.skynet.be [194.78.231.3]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with SMTP id D7E9BDB2B; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:16:15 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: From: "Glenn Nolf" To: "Eurodisc (E-mail)" , "Ned. Mailinglist (E-mail)" , "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: Tom's Tourney 2000 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:03:01 +0200 Message-ID: <000001bfbbd9$85fb9ce0$6b1ca8c0@kmcbglenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi y'all, A bit later than expected : the final ranking of Tom's Tourney. Due to the extreme weather conditions around 5PM on sunday, we couldn't play the final. This means we have 2 winners this year : great luxury !!! 1. Dutch National Team & Iznogood 3. Circus on the run 4. XLR8RS 5. Freezzz Beezzz 6. GB Masters 7. Jet Set 8. Night Fever 9. Violently Happy 10. Fluid Druids 11. Ultimatum 12. Pookas 13. Flying Colors 14. Ars Ludendi 15. Invalids 16. LCF 17. Bfrisbee2's 18. Disc Devils 19. Sloop Hasselt 20. UFO 21. WAF 22. Red 23. Crunch 2 Spirit of the game was won by Jet Set. You can find all results on www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz In a couple of days you'll find some pictures on the same site. We'll be back next year !!! Glenn Freezzz Beezzz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 15 01:12:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA13886 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:11:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA13875 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:11:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA12383 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:11:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27882 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from marvin.soton.ac.uk (b54cs1p13.net.soton.ac.uk [152.78.202.63]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e4F0BCi12901 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 01:11:12 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Pennington Reply-To: nap197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 3: Southampton Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 01:16:19 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id BAA13876 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Invitation to Tour III Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton June 24/25 2000 Dear Team Tour III will take place in Southampton on 24/25 June. The event will be a split site event as per last year offering some of the best pitches in the Ultimate calendar, with the main site, Wellington providing on site camping and bar. The tournament is open to 32 teams at an entry fee of £85 per team. More details will be sent upon receipt of entry by filling in the form below, with a cheque made payable to N.Pennington. Registration deadline is 3 June. I look forward to seeing you all there. Neil Pennington aka. Marv nap197@soton.ac.uk -------------------------------------------------------- We would like to enter Tour III. I enclose a cheque for £85 made payable to N.Pennington Team Name: Team Contact: Address: Telephone: E-mail: Please send cheques to: N.Pennington 25 Holyrood Avenue Highfield Southampton SO17 1SH From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 15 07:53:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id HAA10983 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10977 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20380 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA20152 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200005150647.HAA20152@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 20th May 2000 BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Hayling Hurricane IV (2 days) @ Hayling Island, Hampshire [Golf] Contact Dan Massey Email dmassey@portsmouthcc.gov.uk Phone 023 9243 5779 TOUR II (2 days) @ Towcester [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Nancy Stebbing Email nancy.stebbing@tesco.net Phone 01208 701705 (home - all day) Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 3rd June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Cambridge [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Olivier Cottray Email ojco@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Phone (01223) 503 738 [H]; (01223) 221 203 Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 15 13:48:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA21540 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:46:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21522 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:46:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27112 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:46:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.localnet) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12rKJR-0002Ze-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:49:33 +0100 Received: by SHREEVEPORT_NT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <26PJTQM2>; Mon, 15 May 2000 13:50:09 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Oxford Tournament Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 13:50:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id NAA21527 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All Oxford Ultimate are holding a tournament. Its based on the idea that a tournament is about - Good weather, Tequila, Camping, Music and great Ultimate - Its going to be huge. Details: Class: Open Name: Roomer has it..... Dates: 22 - 23 July 2000 Location: Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford in the Cotswold) Contact: Mike Beaton or Milky - OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Basically you will buy a ticket which will get a good meal in the evening, washed down with a shot of Tequila and a breakfast in the morning On the Saturday evening there will be a bar open late (they believe in lock-ins if we are quiet!!). There will be a band playing good music and there is plenty of room to camp. What else do you need to know? Let us know if you are interested - there are only enough pitches for twenty teams. Cost - it will be around £90 per team, but I will let you know as soon as possible the full cost. Bring all the moves and plays you didn't play on the Tour and come drink some Tequila. Milky From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 15 15:53:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id PAA01888 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:51:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01879 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:51:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09856 for ; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:51:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 12rMDY-0007R9-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 15 May 2000 15:51:36 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 15 May 00 15:51:36 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 15 May 00 15:51:30 +0100 From: "Pete Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:51:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Student egroups X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 0100,0100,0100This is a message for all students out there on Britdisc. Sorry if this doesn't apply to you. There is an e-mail list specifically for student ultimate, to help keep you and your club informed about important issues and forth coming events. To Subscribe just visit the Buf website and look under "staying informed". 0000,8000,0000http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/informed.asp Pete Coy. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 16 01:18:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id BAA08558 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:16:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08553 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:16:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA10328 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:16:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-1-17-148.host.btclick.com ([213.1.17.148]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000516001547.LQGP25054.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-1-17-148.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:15:47 +0100 Received: by host213-1-17-148.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFBED4.25D7B120@host213-1-17-148.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 16 May 2000 01:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFBED4.25D7B120@host213-1-17-148.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Rosters Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:15:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id BAA08554 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Before T1 most team completed a roster, and those that did not, mailed it to me direct. However, there are some noticeable omissions in some of the information. Can I ask all teams to ensure all their players details are correct, and if they are not to ensure that they collect the information of teams at T2, and complete them ASAP. Can someone from ChevronAF please complete their roster on the website. Any problems please contact me. Those teams that mailed me with roster requests I will let you know of any decisions made by the u8c individually. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 16 08:15:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id IAA13850 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:14:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13841 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:14:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from stargate (stargate.kpmg.co.uk [194.131.238.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21741 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:14:35 +0100 (BST) Received: by stargate; id IAA22055; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:13:44 +0100 (GMT) Received: from unknown(158.174.200.96) by stargate.kpmg.co.uk via smap (V5.5) id xma021576; Tue, 16 May 00 08:12:45 +0100 Received: from ukwatexc01.uk.kpmg.com (unverified) by ukwatexc01.uk.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:13:02 +0100 Received: by ukwatexc01.kpmg.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 08:13:02 +0100 Message-Id: <53CAF6AD6B08D3118F700008C7A473E91BAF7D@ukbirexc06.uk.kworld.kpmg.com> From: "Eagles, Colin L" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Pick ups for Tour 2 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 08:12:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Three year 10/11 (14/15 years old) pupils at a school between Milton Keynes and Towcester are looking for a team to pick up with this weekend at Towcester. These girls have been playing for a few months and are keen to play in a tournament. If there are any teams - preferably coed - that can accomodate them please send me an e-mail, or contact myself or Jack Rushton on the numbers below. Thanks, Colin Eagles - Slasher Colin Eagles - 0771 516 7391 Jack Rushton - 01604 410 436 Email Disclaimer The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 16 19:34:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id TAA27343 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:33:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27337 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:33:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f112.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.112]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA27605 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 19:33:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 68792 invoked by uid 0); 16 May 2000 18:32:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000516183257.68791.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.195.64.24 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 May 2000 11:32:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.195.64.24] From: "James Smalley" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: LOndon League Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:32:57 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As regard the London league are there any teams loking for a pickup. If so can I play please. Spider BAF/Whiplash jamesdavidsmalley@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 16 22:46:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id WAA00795 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:45:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00789 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:45:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09134 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:45:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12rp9G-000P6P-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 16 May 2000 22:45:07 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 21:05:07 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: LOndon League References: <20000516183257.68791.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000516183257.68791.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Spider, This Wednesday (i.e. tomorrow/today!) Regents Park 7.00 for 7.30 game "Wayne's team" ??? Wayne James Smalley writes >As regard the London league are there any teams loking for a pickup. If so >can I play please. > > >Spider >BAF/Whiplash >jamesdavidsmalley@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 16 23:19:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id XAA07083 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:18:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07053 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:18:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12404 for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:18:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12rpfC-0009OG-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 16 May 2000 23:18:07 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 23:16:38 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: LOndon League - oops! References: <20000516183257.68791.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Darn - one day I'll work out how to not bug you ALL. Sorry! Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 11:47:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id LAA08035 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:44:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08022 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:44:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05812 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 11:44:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from kmcbglenn (dialup206.brugge.skynet.be [195.238.31.206]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F66B1814C; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:44:18 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: From: "Glenn Nolf" To: "Eurodisc (E-mail)" , "BritDisc (E-mail)" , "Ned. Mailinglist (E-mail)" Subject: Tom's Tourney 2000 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 12:42:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000101bfbfec$c623df50$6b1ca8c0@kmcbglenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You can find some pictures on www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz Glenn Freezzz Beezzz Brugge From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 12:12:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA17136 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:10:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17119 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:10:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from web117.yahoomail.com (web117.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA10628 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 12:10:51 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 14259 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2000 11:10:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20000517111044.14258.qmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Received: from [193.63.97.218] by web117.yahoomail.com; Wed, 17 May 2000 04:10:44 PDT Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 04:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: FTA: Mud Culture To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone from Mud Culture contact me privately about pickups for tour 2? I spoke (emailed) Lucy Smallwood about it before tour 1, and would like to get in touch again... cheers Sarah f6uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 13:26:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA12476 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:25:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10086; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:19:29 +0100 (BST) From: gs10@bigfoot.com Received: from utnt21.INTRANET.UNITEL.COM.CO ([206.27.70.195]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA24478; Wed, 17 May 2000 13:18:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from tigrei.prod.eesc.sc.udp.br ([144.117.239.199]) ([168.191.88.48]) by utnt21.INTRANET.UNITEL.COM.CO (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id 052568E2.0020B0CA; Wed, 17 May 2000 00:57:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000070526058$0000282d$00003299@tigrei.prod.eesc.sc.usp.br ([143.117.238.199]) > To: Subject: REVERSE THE AGING PROCESS 10-20 YEARS WITH GH!. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 14:40:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA05092 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:32:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05059 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:32:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06950 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:32:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.68.228] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12s3vj-0002sL-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 May 2000 14:32:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01bfc004$ab2e3e80$e4448cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: directions to tour 2 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 14:23:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Directions to Towcester Racecourse >From M1 Northbound and Southbound (from London and Leicester) Exit M1 at Junction 15a, the A43. Travel on the A43 Southbound, toward Towcester. At the first Towcester roundabout, at the A5, turn left, heading into Towcester. Travel through the town centre, heading toward Milton Keynes. About a quarter of a mile out of the town centre, you will see a long, red brick wall on your left. This is the Racecourse wall. The entrance is approximately one half-mile further along the road. Just before the entrance, you will see a pub, The Folly, one your right. Immediately past the pub, turn right into the Racecourse. Please refer to the site map for the parking area. >From M40 Northbound (from London) Exit M40 at Junction 10, the A43. Travel on the A43 Northbound, heading for Northampton. Be aware that Brackley has a bypass- you need to watch the signs carefully. The A43 will take you all the way to Towcester. At the first Towcester roundabout (which has a service plaza and the Travelodge) turn right. Continue along this road (going straight over the roundabout) until you get the the town centre. You will see the Saracen's Head Hotel on your right. At the town centre, turn right onto the A5, heading toward Milton Keynes. About a quarter of a mile out of the town centre, you will see a long, red brick wall on your left. This is the Racecourse wall. The entrance is approximately one half-mile further along the road. Just before the entrance, you will see a pub, The Folly, one your right. Immediately past the pub, turn right into the Racecourse. Please refer to the site map for the parking area. >From M40 Southbound (from Birmingham) Exit M40 at Junction 11, A422 at Banbury. Travel on the A422 Eastbound, heading for Brackley. At Brackley, go straight across the roundabout to get on the A43 Northbound, bypassing Brackley centre. The A43 will take you all the way to Towcester. At the first Towcester roundabout (which has a service plaza and the Travelodge) turn right. Continue along this road (going straight over the roundabout) until you get the the town centre. You will see the Saracen's Head Hotel on your right. At the town centre, turn right onto the A5, heading toward Milton Keynes. About a quarter of a mile out of the town centre, you will see a long, red brick wall on your left. This is the Racecourse wall. The entrance is approximately one half-mile further along the road. Just before the entrance, you will see a pub, The Folly, one your right. Immediately past the pub, turn right into the Racecourse. Please refer to the site map for the parking area. >From Milton Keynes Take the A5 westbound towards Towcester. After you pass through Paulerspury, you will see a long, red brick wall on your left. This is the Racecourse wall. The entrance is approximately half-mile further along the road on the right. Just past the entrance, is a pub, The Folly, one your left. If pass The Folly, you've gone too far. Please refer to the site map for the parking area. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 16:09:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA06752 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06737 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19283 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.83.46] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12s5Pz-0001n7-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:27 +0100 Message-ID: <005401bfc011$fc5e9fe0$2e538cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: directions to tour 2- correction Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:05:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to Wayne for pointing out my stipid mistake in the directions- > >From Milton Keynes > >Take the A5 westbound towards Towcester. After you pass through > >Paulerspury, you will see a long, red brick wall on your left.... > > I don't know the area, but it seems to me that from MK, the racecourse will > be on the RIGHT... Yes, the racecourse is on the RIGHT from MK. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 16:09:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA06783 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06741 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11576 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.83.46] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12s5Q0-0001n7-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 May 2000 16:07:28 +0100 Message-ID: <005501bfc011$fd0678a0$2e538cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: camping at Tour 2 Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 16:08:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those camping on Friday- Please camp in ther area marked on the site map. For those without a map- as you enter the racecourse, you will eb camping next to the red brick wall on the left side of the entrance road. For parking- follow the entrance road- taking the fork off the the left going down into the racecourse centre. Park on the grass in the centre, wherever seems logical. If you have a problem, I can be reached on 07711 332 505. There is staff at the racecourse if an emergency arises, but you must contact them through me. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 17 21:06:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id VAA24732 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:05:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24715 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:05:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA24808 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:05:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (arts-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.124.2]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14163 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 21:05:11 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200005172005.VAA14163@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H22/SpoolDir by arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 17 May 00 21:06:04 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H22 (Mercury 1.47); 17 May 00 21:05:50 GMT From: "Anna Winter" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 21:05:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Buying discs. Reply-to: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi brit-disc, Spending this summer in America, it seems like a perfect opportunity to get our team discs printed up so that I can bring them home with me when I return in September. Cheaper, I am thinking. However, will I have to pay duty on them when I arrive back in the UK? If so, any clues how much this is likely to be? Also, does anyone know how I can contact discraft about getting our designs done? Last of all, is this plan more hastle than it is worth? Any suggestions welcomed. Cheers, Anna- Jedi. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 18 03:29:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id DAA29408 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:28:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA29402 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:28:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f165.hotmail.com [216.32.181.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA18217 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 03:28:48 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1124 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 2000 02:28:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000518022817.1123.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.193.50.52 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 May 2000 19:28:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.193.50.52] From: "Antony Marsh" To: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Buying discs. Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 19:28:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk See http://www.discraft.com/CUSTOM_ORDERING.htm for information on how to order discs from Discraft. In addition to any duty to be paid when you return, prepare yourself for funny looks on customs officials' faces if they search your luggage!! Have fun in America! I've been here for a year and have a few new discs as souvenirs of my travels. Tony - Oregon State Disc Club ---Original Message--- Hi brit-disc, Spending this summer in America, it seems like a perfect opportunity to get our team discs printed up so that I can bring them home with me when I return in September. Cheaper, I am thinking. However, will I have to pay duty on them when I arrive back in the UK? If so, any clues how much this is likely to be? Also, does anyone know how I can contact discraft about getting our designs done? Last of all, is this plan more hastle than it is worth? Any suggestions welcomed. Cheers, Anna- Jedi. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 18 10:52:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA18811 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 2000 10:11:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18736 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 10:11:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18039 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 10:11:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id KAA09921; Thu, 18 May 2000 10:11:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 May 2000 10:11:45 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 10:11:10 +0100 From: "Olivier Cottray" To: Subject: CO-ED CAM2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id KAA18777 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi BD- one week left for registration to CO-ED CAM2000 (3rd-4th June)! so far, confirmed teams are as follows: KUPA Red Rage (read Wage) Blue Arse Flies Mixed 'The Scottish Team' (no name as yet?) Strange Blue Deep Blue teams with a cheque in the post: Chevron Mild Mannered Janitors More Mild Mannered Janitors The deadline for registration is Friday 26th May so please get in touch with me soon if you'd like to come, or catch me on the weekend in Towcester. There are about 6 space left- maps, directions and accomodation details can be found at: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam/ check for more details to follow- keep 'em flying! olivier sb From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 18 13:33:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA12304 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:35:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12200 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:35:29 +0100 (BST) From: robin.garton@lowelintas.com Received: from cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net (cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net [199.94.215.244]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01483 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:35:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from ww-gate01.ipgnotes.com (ww-gate01.ipgnotes.com [205.181.16.14]) by cambridge1-smrly2.gtei.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03496ABBA for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: New practice - hyde park - thursday evenings To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a (Intl) 23 November 1999 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:35:15 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WW-Gate01/APL/IPG(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 05/18/2000 07:28:13 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We are trying to get a pick up game happening on thursdays in hyde park - a few beginners and then a range of experienced players so far - but not yet enough for a full game - anyone and everyone welcome - 7pm speakers corner Come along Rob From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 18 16:34:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id QAA26551 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:01:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26254 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:01:08 +0100 (BST) From: Gussvictor@aol.com Received: from imo-r17.mx.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23726 for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 16:01:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from Gussvictor@aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id 8.db.44b6f2a (16785) for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 11:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:00:18 EDT Subject: Is there a game tonight at Clapham Common? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 105 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since Tour II is this weekend, is anyone still planning to play pickup tonight around 7 or 7:30 at Clapham Common? Vic From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 19 10:45:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id KAA26578 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 2000 10:43:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26565 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 10:43:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.48]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12527 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 10:43:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 12sjJG-0006Cz-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 19 May 2000 10:43:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:45:14 +0100 Subject: BUF deposits From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I sent this yesterday but it didn't get through to me. Apologies if you get the message twice. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Hi all I have yet to receive Tour taxes from the following teams: Chevy DSM Sharks Angels Mohawks You are now way past the deadline for Tour 2 and will have to give me the money in Towcester. It is 15 pounds per tournament you wish to enter sent to my address below. Angels and Mohawks I have heard NOTHING from you. Get it sorted! Dora Kemp McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, Downing Street, Cambridge, CB2 3ER (01223) 339336; (01223) 333538 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 19 14:08:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA04212 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:06:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04184 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:06:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4JD6R721954 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:06:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12smPh-0001Xs-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:02:01 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 19 May 2000 14:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EACF4@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: FW: Hong Kong 7's - mixed series II Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:58:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > For all th latest up-to-date info on the Mixed Series II event in Leeds please log onto http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/hk7's > Thanks > > MMJ > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 19 18:35:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4JHXd300550 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:33:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4JHXbY00539 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:33:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from hose.pipex.net (hose.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.58]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4JHXbU29895 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:33:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.188.146.128] (userbq34.uk.uudial.com [62.188.146.128]) by hose.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F704573 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:33:36 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 18:33:33 +0100 Subject: FRISBEE DAWG From: john purdie To: britdisc Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sorry folks - this came to my attention and i just had to share it with all you sad baskets out there http://www.joecartoon.com/buddies/frisbee/index.html ttfn johnp From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 19 18:48:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4JHlUW03552 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:47:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4JHlTY03547 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:47:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4JHlTV10721 for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 18:47:29 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200005191747.e4JHlTV10721@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from [212.159.139.118] [212.159.139.118] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk); Fri, 19 May 2000 18:48:32 +0100 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Fri, 19 May 00 18:48:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:04:45 +0100 Subject: Re: Buying discs. From: "jack" To: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4JHlUY03548 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I had to pay £175 for 200 discs, but it's based on the value which might have included a percent of the shipping cost, as well as the cost of the actual discs. jack -- Jack Goolden www.malago.co.uk 07968720331 ---------- >From: "Anna Winter" >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: Buying discs. >Date: Wed, May 17, 2000, 9:05 pm > > Hi brit-disc, > > Spending this summer in America, it seems like a perfect > opportunity to get our team discs printed up so that I can bring > them home with me when I return in September. Cheaper, I am > thinking. However, will I have to pay duty on them when I arrive > back in the UK? If so, any clues how much this is likely to be? > Also, does anyone know how I can contact discraft about getting > our designs done? Last of all, is this plan more hastle than it is > worth? > > Any suggestions welcomed. > > Cheers, > > Anna- Jedi. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 07:50:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4M6l3926388 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M6l2126383 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M6l2U11552 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA02963 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200005220647.HAA02963@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 3rd June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Cambridge [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Olivier Cottray Email ojco@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Phone (01223) 503 738 [H]; (01223) 221 203 Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 224 9680 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 09:47:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4M8k5M17020 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:46:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M8k2116999 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:46:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from server-10.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (pool.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4M8k1V09067 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:46:02 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 29309 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 08:45:55 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-10.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 22 May 2000 08:45:55 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:45:54 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B008@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A significantly stupid sport exists Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:45:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk which makes Ultimate look positively sensible: http://home.netcom.com/~time2div/fire1.html Tell your friends. Get involved! Cheers PieBoy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 09:50:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4M8o5618257 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:50:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M8o3118250 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:50:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from psych.york.ac.uk (psysgi1.york.ac.uk [144.32.162.63]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4M8nvU21550 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 09:49:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 28840 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 08:49:51 -0000 Received: from boney.york.ac.uk (HELO boney) (144.32.162.241) by psysgi1.york.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 May 2000 08:49:51 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000522095018.008ffb60@pop.psych.york.ac.uk> X-Sender: D.Grayson@pop.psych.york.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 09:50:18 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "D.Grayson" Subject: Re: Buying discs. In-Reply-To: <200005191747.e4JHlTV10721@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4M8o4118251 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Import duty on discs is 6% plus 17.5% VAT. I however managed to bring 120 through customs and it was accepted that they were for personal use - all be it with a smile. I shipped a lot by surface mail as well but they weren't so fortunate to escape customs. Dave. At 19:04 18/05/00 +0100, you wrote: >I had to pay £175 for 200 discs, but it's based on the value which might >have included a percent of the shipping cost, as well as the cost of the >actual discs. > > > >jack > > > >-- > >Jack Goolden >www.malago.co.uk > >07968720331 > > >---------- >>From: "Anna Winter" >>To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >>Subject: Buying discs. >>Date: Wed, May 17, 2000, 9:05 pm >> > >> Hi brit-disc, >> >> Spending this summer in America, it seems like a perfect >> opportunity to get our team discs printed up so that I can bring >> them home with me when I return in September. Cheaper, I am >> thinking. However, will I have to pay duty on them when I arrive >> back in the UK? If so, any clues how much this is likely to be? >> Also, does anyone know how I can contact discraft about getting >> our designs done? Last of all, is this plan more hastle than it is >> worth? >> >> Any suggestions welcomed. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anna- Jedi. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 10:13:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4M9C2225748 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:12:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M9Bw125711 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:11:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M9BwU23952 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:11:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.66.32] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12toFg-0006Jd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:11:56 +0100 Message-ID: <001d01bfc3ce$28799840$20428cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:12:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here are the results of Tour 2 (such as it was...) Thanks to all those who managed it all with a smile. 1 UTI 2 Doughboys 3 Chevron Action Flash 4 Deep South Mentality 5 Red 6 Headrush 7 Fluid Druids 8 Hammerage 9 Strange Blue 10 Fusion 11 Blue Arse Flies 13 Fever 14 Point Blank 15 Mild Mannered Janitors 16 Sharks 17 Angels 18 Skunks 19 Blue Arse Flies Coed 20 Bears 21 Superfly 22 GBW 23 Jedi 24 Swamp Donkeys 25 Mud Culture 26 Yorkie Bar Kids 27 More Mild Mannered Janitors 28 Mowhawks 29 Slipdisc From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 10:19:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4M9IWd28003 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:18:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M9IU127998 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:18:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4M9ITV16505 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:18:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-1.sbs.demon.net ([193.195.0.131]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12toLx-000EJB-0W; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:18:25 +0100 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 12toLv-000IZ9-00; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:18:24 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 10:12:43 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Nancy Stebbing'" , britdisc Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:12:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Correction. Surely it should read 12 Fever 13 Point Blank 14 Mild Mannered Janitors 15 Sharks 16 Angels 17 Skunks 18 Blue Arse Flies Coed 19 Bears 20 Superfly 21 GBW 22 Jedi 23 Swamp Donkeys 24 Mud Culture 25 Yorkie Bar Kids 26 More Mild Mannered Janitors 27 Mowhawks 28 Slipdisc From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 13:34:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MCDlZ00781 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:13:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MCDe100718 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:13:41 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:13:50 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "James Hewitson" Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "James Hewitson" To: "britdisc" Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:32:26 +0100 Can we have a clarification from someone (I'm guessing DoC) on the U8 points position, the tour black-list, etc in the event of a team turning up and electing (some may suggest sensibly) not to play due to "un suitable" playing conditions ? Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 14:01:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MCujm20673 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MCud120629 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MCudV28778 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:13 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:38 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E686@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'James Hewitson'" Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes; you can all have clarification of what happened, what it means and what will happen. But later. I'm not paid to be an ultimate administrator / player, and unfortunately sometimes, it comes second in my list of priorities. Chris DoC > ---------- > From: James Hewitson[SMTP:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] > Sent: 22 May 2000 13:13 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > > From: "James Hewitson" > To: "britdisc" > Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:32:26 +0100 > > Can we have a clarification from someone (I'm guessing DoC) on the U8 > points > position, the tour black-list, etc in the event of a team turning up and > electing (some may suggest sensibly) not to play due to "un suitable" > playing > conditions ? > > Balti > BAF 34 > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 14:21:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MDKp201359 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:20:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MDKl101324 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:20:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from server-8.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (pool.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4MDKkV04497 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:20:46 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 17177 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 13:20:39 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-8.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 22 May 2000 13:20:39 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:19:58 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B023@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:19:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On that note, there's a BUF Ultim8 Tour website at http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour2000/index.htm Which still doesn't include Tour 1 let alone Tour 2 results. Is there any intention that this is where the results/seedings will be posted? Or has it been left to wither on the web vine? And how soft are those Catch boys? ;-) Cheers PieBoy DOUGHBOY 2000. -----Original Message----- From: James Hewitson [mailto:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2000 13:14 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour 2 results From: "James Hewitson" To: "britdisc" Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:32:26 +0100 Can we have a clarification from someone (I'm guessing DoC) on the U8 points position, the tour black-list, etc in the event of a team turning up and electing (some may suggest sensibly) not to play due to "un suitable" playing conditions ? Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 14:21:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MDJti01022 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:19:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MDJo100990 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:19:51 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:20:11 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: ANDY COTGREAVE Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: "'James Hewitson'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:05:08 +0100 Hi all, Well, it was an interesting weekend, and the u8 committee had some work to do. Catch 22 withdrew, and came to the committee with a couple of proposals: 1. That the tournament be declared void - no tour points would be allocated to ANY team due to the un suitability of the pitches 2. That Catch do not get penalised by withdrawing 3. That they get a refund for the tournament. As a committee, we didn't agree with the first proposal. However, we did recognise that, yes, the pitches were not suitable for a Tour tournament. Also, as one of the founding principles of the tour was to guarantee high quality pitches (it's in the rules!), we agreed that any team had the right to withdraw from the tournament. However, to declare the tournament void was certainly not going to please the rest of the 29 teams who decided to play on the pitches. Because we do recognise the right of Catch to withdraw, they will not be penalised in the same way as if they had pulled out at the last minute due to other circumstances (eg not having enough players). The way that we agreed was to treat Catch as if they had not ever entered this tournament. They get no points for Tour II, therefore, and are seeded for Tour III based on their Tour I position, as written in the rules. As for their refund, we felt that because this was a BUF sponsored tournament, that this would have to be discussed with them. We didn't get a decision on this by the end of the weekend, as far as I am aware. I hope that makes things clearer. We tried to make the best decision in light of the situation and the Tour rules. Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: James Hewitson [mailto:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 1:14 PM > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > > > From: "James Hewitson" > To: "britdisc" > Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:32:26 +0100 > > Can we have a clarification from someone (I'm guessing DoC) > on the U8 points > position, the tour black-list, etc in the event of a team > turning up and > electing (some may suggest sensibly) not to play due to "un > suitable" playing > conditions ? > > Balti > BAF 34 > > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 14:45:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MDhi109779 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:43:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MDhf109764 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:43:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MDheU04073 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:43:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from dns0.rmplc.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mail.rmplc.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #10) id 12tsUY-00049E-00; Mon, 22 May 2000 13:43:34 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03425; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:43:32 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:43:29 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12703267E6B@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" , "'Roger Thomson'" Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:43:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk there is a good reason why the web site hasn't been updated. unfortunately, i can't remember it, but Wayne should be able to let us know (Wayne....?) Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Thomson [mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 2:20 PM > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Tour 2 results > > > On that note, there's a BUF Ultim8 Tour website at > > http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour2000/index.htm > > Which still doesn't include Tour 1 let alone Tour 2 results. > Is there any > intention that this is where the results/seedings will be > posted? Or has it > been left to wither on the web vine? > > And how soft are those Catch boys? ;-) > > Cheers > PieBoy > > DOUGHBOY 2000. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Hewitson [mailto:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] > Sent: 22 May 2000 13:14 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > > > From: "James Hewitson" > To: "britdisc" > Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:32:26 +0100 > > Can we have a clarification from someone (I'm guessing DoC) > on the U8 points > position, the tour black-list, etc in the event of a team > turning up and > electing (some may suggest sensibly) not to play due to "un suitable" > playing > conditions ? > > Balti > BAF 34 > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 15:15:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MECFE20627 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:12:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MECC120614 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:12:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mh-a03.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4MECBU09047 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:12:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 12471 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 14:12:10 -0000 Received: from www-a20.backend.funmail.co.uk (HELO www-a20) (172.16.100.20) by mh-a03.backend.another.com with SMTP; 22 May 2000 14:12:10 -0000 Message-ID: <15087429.959004725431.JavaMail.root@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:12:05 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: bruce@pointblank.co.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="18281307.959004725391.JavaMail.root@www-a20" X-Funmail-UID: 268015 X-Senders-IP: unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --18281307.959004725391.JavaMail.root@www-a20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although I (probably) agree with the decisions made regarding Catch, this d= oes greatly effect the other teams in the tournament, especially those in t= he 13 downwards area. If Catch are treated as if they had never entered, su= rely everyone else should be treated as if Catch had never entered. Where d= oes this leave the teams placed in the aforementioned positions regarding t= heir Tour points? >From the posted positions, 12th place has been left blank. Have those point= s vanished? More importantly, if everyone below 12th moves up a place, can = someone from Nightfever please post us our plate trophy ;-) Bruce=20 Point Blank -----Original Message----- >From : ANDY COTGREAVE To : britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date : 22 May 2000 14:20:11 Subject : RE: Tour 2 results From: ANDY COTGREAVE >To: =93'James Hewitson'=93 , > britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: RE: Tour 2 results >Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:05:08 +0100 > >Hi all, > >Well, it was an interesting weekend, and the u8 committee had some work to= do. > >Catch 22 withdrew, and came to the committee with a couple of proposals: > >1. That the tournament be declared void - no tour points would be allocate= d >to ANY team due to the un suitability of the pitches >2. That Catch do not get penalised by withdrawing >3. That they get a refund for the tournament. > >As a committee, we didn't agree with the first proposal. However, we did >recognise that, yes, the pitches were not suitable for a Tour tournament. >Also, as one of the founding principles of the tour was to guarantee high >quality pitches (it's in the rules!), we agreed that any team had the righ= t >to withdraw from the tournament. > >However, to declare the tournament void was certainly not going to please >the rest of the 29 teams who decided to play on the pitches. > >Because we do recognise the right of Catch to withdraw, they will not be >penalised in the same way as if they had pulled out at the last minute due >to other circumstances (eg not having enough players). The way that we >agreed was to treat Catch as if they had not ever entered this tournament. >They get no points for Tour II, therefore, and are seeded for Tour III >based on their Tour I position, as written in the rules. > >As for their refund, we felt that because this was a BUF sponsored >tournament, that this would have to be discussed with them. We didn't get = a >decision on this by the end of the weekend, as far as I am aware. > >I hope that makes things clearer. We tried to make the best decision in >light of the situation and the Tour rules. > >Andy > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Hewitson [mailto:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] >> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 1:14 PM >> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >> Subject: Re: Tour 2 results >> >> >> From: =93James Hewitson=93 >> To: =93britdisc=93 >> Subject: Re: Tour 2 results >> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 12:32:26 +0100 >> >> Can we have a clarification from someone (I'm guessing DoC) >> on the U8 points >> position, the tour black-list, etc in the event of a team >> turning up and >> electing (some may suggest sensibly) not to play due to =93un >> suitable=93 playing >> conditions ? >> >> Balti >> BAF 34 >> >> > > >STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it = or >disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information onl= y >for the intended purpose. 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If this email has come to you in error please delete it a= nd >any attachments. > > > Be whoever you want to be with another.com Just click here: http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=3Danother.com/login.j= sp?sig=3D390 --18281307.959004725391.JavaMail.root@www-a20-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 15:44:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MEgHJ02298 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:42:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MEgB102257 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:42:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from gw-nl3.philips.com (gw-nl3.philips.com [192.68.44.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MEftU12303 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:41:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl3.philips.com with ESMTP id QAA01679; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:41:43 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl3.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma001677; Mon, 22 May 00 16:41:44 +0200 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA21911; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:41:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA22177; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:41:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900008864785; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:43:27 +0200 To: Cc: Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Message-ID: <0056900008864785000002L052*@MHS> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:43:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 05/22/00 16:32:33" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4MEgB102262 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Andy, reference "As for their refund, we felt that because this was a BUF sponsored tournament, that this would have to be discussed with them. We didn't get a decision on this by the end of the weekend, as far as I am aware." I realise that it is difficult to say that money may be refunded but as you said the pitches were a terrible (a disgrace), I myself decided not to play( but changed my mind as my team opted to play on as we need all the practice we can get together before worlds,) ...I agreed with Catch's boycote of the venue and feel that more teams should possibly have followed suit. Will the refund be to all teams, if there is one at all? How did it come about that such an unsuitable venue was selected? Even if the pitchs had been rolled, cut and watered I doubt that the ridges all the way through the fields would have been improved on. I realise that it is difficult to find good venues (as well as people to run tournaments), but I am sure we can do better than this! cheers Hannah (GBW) ps Can we have more cones next time... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 16:02:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MF0N508914 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:00:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MF0K108886 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:00:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MF0GV26796 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:00:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from dns0.rmplc.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mail.rmplc.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #10) id 12ttgI-0005SK-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 May 2000 14:59:46 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16054 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:59:46 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:59:44 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12703267E70@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 15:59:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi, as far as the money is concerned, this is a tough one, and i wouldn't really want the debate to be opened up massively. i'd say wait for the BUF/committee to make it's decision first. the question about how did the situation arise in the first place? Well, i guess we have to sympathis with the DoC a little here - he didn't turn down any bids this year, and really tried hard to get some northern tournaments in the schedule. What can be done if only four bids are put forward? you have to accept them all, or reduce the tour. so, if you feel strongly that last weekend was no good, that's fine. however, if you feel really strongly about it, the best things isn't to criticise those who have devoted a huge amount of time organise tournaments, but to put bids in yourself. Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: hannah.easter@philips.com [mailto:hannah.easter@philips.com] > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 3:43 PM > To: acotgreave@rm.com > Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Tour 2 results > > > Andy, > > reference "As for their refund, we felt that because this was > a BUF sponsored > tournament, that this would have to be discussed with them. > We didn't get a > decision on this by the end of the weekend, as far as I am aware." > > I realise that it is difficult to say that money may be > refunded but as you said the pitches were a terrible (a > disgrace), I myself decided not to play( but changed my mind > as my team opted to play on as we need all the practice we > can get together > before worlds,) ...I agreed with Catch's boycote of the venue > and feel that more teams should possibly have followed suit. > Will the refund be to all teams, if there is one at all? > > How did it come about that such an unsuitable venue was selected? > Even if the pitchs had been rolled, cut and watered I doubt > that the ridges all the way through the fields would have > been improved on. > > I realise that it is difficult to find good venues (as well > as people to run tournaments), but I am sure we can do better > than this! > > cheers Hannah (GBW) > > ps Can we have more cones next time... > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 17:22:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MGG6707858 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:16:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MGEn107170 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:14:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail01-lhr.pilot.net (mail-lhr-1.pilot.net [212.117.0.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MGEmU27054 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:14:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from sclon005.seacontainers.com (unknown-212-117-10-192.pilot.net [212.117.10.192] (may be forged)) by mail01-lhr.pilot.net with ESMTP id RAA12005 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from sclon005.seacontainers.com (unverified) by sclon005.seacontainers.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:13:46 +0100 Received: by ntlon008.geseaco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:13:45 +0100 Message-ID: <30B32A54C396D311A8E700508B5E20D86E2496@ntlon008.geseaco.com> From: "Dray,Nick" To: "'bruce@pointblank.co.uk'" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: trophy? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:13:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bruce wrote: >More importantly, if everyone below 12th moves up a place, can >someone from Nightfever please post us our plate trophy ;-) Sorry Brucie, even if you play your cards right we can't do that. The Plate was awarded to 9th place. nick fever. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 17:22:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MGFvp07757 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:15:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MGFp107724 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:15:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MGFpU27252 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:15:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:15:37 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07204; Mon, 22 May 2000 17:14:28 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 18:15:03 +0100 To: ANDY COTGREAVE Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Cc: "Britdisc (E-mail)" In-Reply-To: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12703267E70@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> References: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12703267E70@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Build (55) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hannah wrote: > > before worlds,) ...I agreed with Catch's boycote of the > venue Before things get out of hand... Can't speak for the whole of catch, but I wouldn't like to think that we did anything as politically provocative as boycot the event. We just didn't think that we could play safely on the pitches. Obviously, we're gutted that we didn't get a chance to compete and improve on our Tour I position. But we're also really sorry for Nancy that the venue (in my opinion) is not suitable for ultimate despite all her effort. Perhaps Towcester racecourse might consider laying some playing field?... Rafi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 20:25:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MJMec24808 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:22:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MJMcp24800 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:22:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from stargate (stargate.kpmg.co.uk [194.131.238.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MJMbV05520 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:22:38 +0100 (BST) Received: by stargate; id UAA03982; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:22:12 +0100 (GMT) Received: from unknown(158.174.200.96) by stargate.kpmg.co.uk via smap (V5.5) id xma003506; Mon, 22 May 00 20:21:27 +0100 Received: from ukwatexc01.uk.kpmg.com (unverified) by ukwatexc01.uk.kpmg.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:21:43 +0100 Received: by ukwatexc01.kpmg.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 May 2000 20:21:43 +0100 Message-Id: <53CAF6AD6B08D3118F700008C7A473E91BAF82@ukbirexc06.uk.kworld.kpmg.com> From: "Eagles, Colin L" To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Re: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 20:21:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is it the case that there are just not enough suitable venues for events the size of the Tour events of the past couple of seasons? As Chris noted, he had just four bids for Tour events this year. Whilst I know of a number of venues in the Milton Keynes/ Northampton area which could provide 6-8 pitches of real quality, any more is very unlikely. I'm sure the number of bids is something of a reflection of the situation up and down the country. If we wish to maintain the quality of pitches, perhaps it is time to reduce the size of these events. At the same time, I'm sure there would be greater support for non-Tour events. To that end, I hope that the coed events in the summer are a real success. There have been fewer non-Tour events over the last couple of years, as a lot of players' disposable time and money has been taken up to attend the Tour and make it the success it has become. To a lesser extent, both with more open teams, and the last year or two of regional student leagues, the Tour has clashed with exams etc. somewhat restricting the student teams. Perhaps there could be more smaller, almost regional events that took this into consideration. Given that the issue of safe playing surfaces has to be a priority, is the way to solve the problem? I guess there are a number of other issues that would have to be addressed if this were to happen, such as how to decide who goes to each tournament, but I imagine that if we can make sure of high quality surfaces at all events, then it will solve the issue of teams not wanting to play. I agree with Hannah that the pitches caused concern for many more of the teams besides Catch. I would like to thank Nancy, Ian and everyone involved in the organisation of Tour 2 for the quality and smooth running of every other aspect of the event. See you all at Tour 3. Slasher Point Blank Email Disclaimer The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 21:27:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MKQCH07066 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 21:26:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MKQAp07055 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 21:26:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MKQ5V11175 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 21:26:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (cst375.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.51]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA17828 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 21:26:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <392997D7.F83335C1@york.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 21:25:59 +0100 From: jbc102 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Tour 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Rafi wrote > Perhaps Towcester racecourse might consider laying some playing field?... Amen, but wasn't there a regionals event in Towcester during February? Surely someone noticed the condition of the pitches then. I hardly think someone went around putting bricks just below the surface between then and the weekend!! On 24th February, in response to "how (does) the Tour work", Chris Hughes wrote > It works differently from all other 'open' tournaments, where the top seed in each pool spend the majority of > Saturday playing pointless games, in which other than possibly one, they know that they will comfortably beat the > opposition, and vice versa for the bottom seeds. > > In the Tour teams start in 'peer' pools, where teams compete against opposition of similar quality, split into > groups of eight - two pools of four in each group, 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, etc. This presents some meaningful > competition on Saturday for all teams. The theory being that by playing against opposition of similar quality, > this will allow teams to improve through close competition, and also enjoy themselves more by removing the > pointless games. Sunday allows the teams to either challenge the group above them, or defend against upcoming > teams. The top four teams of each group then challenge the bottom four teams of the group above them, which allows > improving teams to climb the rankings. So what happened? I played two games on Saturday in which the result was never going to be in any doubt, and only resulted in more of the team getting injured. by the time it came to playing 'meaningful games, our team was not only reduced in numbers, but thoroughly pissed off at the prospect of having to play more matches on those 'pitches'. Enough moaning from me, I'm sure there are plenty of people who fared worse over the weekend. Jaimie Cross YBK, Swamp Donkeys, GB Juniors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 22 22:49:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MLmeK21946 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:48:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MLmcp21935 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:48:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MLmbV18871 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:48:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-26-215.host.btclick.com ([213.120.26.215]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000522214759.VPXW22347.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host213-120-26-215.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:47:59 +0100 Received: by host213-120-26-215.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC43F.A0200520@host213-120-26-215.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 22 May 2000 22:46:53 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC43F.A0200520@host213-120-26-215.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" , "'Eagles, Colin L'" Subject: RE: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:34:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4MLmcp21936 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At this stage can I refer people to the article that was published in Ultimate this time last year. It was distributed at Edinburgh. It was intended to try and make people think about the options open to the tour. Hopefully people will think again about what is trying to be achieved with the tour. Remember that T1 this year had 33 teams. It is not unthinkable to realise that we could well have a 36 team tournament at some stage during the year. Chris DoC Extract from Ultimatum article (May 1999); However, when I took on the job last summer it was recognised that the tour needed some revamping to enable it to continue, the tour is effectively getting too large. The changes made this year was minor, but I put a serious constraint on prospective tournament organisers in insisting that each event was able to cope with 32 teams, and thereby have a minimum of 10 pitches. There aren't many venues that can cope with about 400 people, which is what I estimate to be the attendance at an average tour tournament, thereby limiting the number of locations for tour events. (If any one knows of a ten+ pitch venue this is your cue to speak up..) The largest event last year was tour II with 28 teams, with the rest attracting 24 teams each, both tour I & II (so far) have had a minimum of 30 teams, and that trend is expected to continue for the rest of the year. This expansion has pushed the tour to its feasible limit, in terms of venue size, schedule, and accommodation requirements for each event. As if that wasn't a problem enough, the tour is swamping the season. This year the tour events are every 3 - 4 weeks. This limits the possibilities for teams, inc. the representative teams, to have practices on a regular basis, players to have a weekend for families, non-playing girlfriends, life? What about the so called 'small' tournaments? These are slowly getting squeezed out, or left in that barren period over the summer, when half the players have gone off for a number of weeks for that years major championship, holidays, or because the universities have broken up. Not only that but the tour is now seen by many as the premier event in the country, above Nationals. So what are the options; continuing to expand as tour is presently doing is not one that is realistically open to us. The initial response is to simply cut down the tour size; the initial objective of the tour was to provide the elite (-ish) teams with suitable competition to improve their games, and play games that are comparable to the games encountered at Worlds, and hopefully counteract the poor British showing at these events. So trimming it down to 12 or 16 teams seems the logical response. Yet it is obvious that the performance of the lower ranked teams have improved with the competition against comparable teams in their groups. So this approached has benefited many, and excluding them from the set-up is not an option - the BUF has to work for all teams, not just the top few. Another option is to establish a B-Tour; and after tour I, split the tour into two events running simultaneously with promotion and relegation of some sort between the two events. This allows the tour to expand, as finding two venues on the same or adjacent weekends with six pitches each is easier than finding a venue with twelve (finding the TD's is a different matter). However players like meeting their friends; what about clubs with two teams split between the two divisions; and what about couples playing on teams in different divisions. A lot of people play ultimate for the social side. However it may be possible, if a venue is big enough to host both the A- and B-tour at the same venue, but that is dependant on the size of the events. People then suggest that the 'small' tournaments could host the B-tour events, but this then puts restrictions on these events, that the organisers may not want. More options include making the 'small' tournaments qualifying events, for those teams not already in the tour, whilst allowing the top teams to enter as well. This leads to problems in scheduling, teams fighting for entry, and again restrictions on the tournament organisers and formats. I believe that people want to be able to enter a tournament, play different teams, enjoy themselves without constantly pressurised by issues of qualification. This may be alleviated by reducing the number of tour events to four or even three, thereby producing more time in the year for these satellite events, without encroaching on already existing tournaments, and providing enough events for teams to attend through out the year. Also by changing the shape and size of the tour, this would encourage Women's teams to commit to the tour, allowing for a Women's event building to Women's Nationals. ---------- From: Eagles, Colin L[SMTP:colin.eagles@kpmg.co.uk] Sent: 22 May 2000 20:21 To: 'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Subject: Re: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? Is it the case that there are just not enough suitable venues for events the size of the Tour events of the past couple of seasons? As Chris noted, he had just four bids for Tour events this year. Whilst I know of a number of venues in the Milton Keynes/ Northampton area which could provide 6-8 pitches of real quality, any more is very unlikely. I'm sure the number of bids is something of a reflection of the situation up and down the country. If we wish to maintain the quality of pitches, perhaps it is time to reduce the size of these events. At the same time, I'm sure there would be greater support for non-Tour events. To that end, I hope that the coed events in the summer are a real success. There have been fewer non-Tour events over the last couple of years, as a lot of players' disposable time and money has been taken up to attend the Tour and make it the success it has become. To a lesser extent, both with more open teams, and the last year or two of regional student leagues, the Tour has clashed with exams etc. somewhat restricting the student teams. Perhaps there could be more smaller, almost regional events that took this into consideration. Given that the issue of safe playing surfaces has to be a priority, is the way to solve the problem? I guess there are a number of other issues that would have to be addressed if this were to happen, such as how to decide who goes to each tournament, but I imagine that if we can make sure of high quality surfaces at all events, then it will solve the issue of teams not wanting to play. I agree with Hannah that the pitches caused concern for many more of the teams besides Catch. I would like to thank Nancy, Ian and everyone involved in the organisation of Tour 2 for the quality and smooth running of every other aspect of the event. See you all at Tour 3. Slasher Point Blank Email Disclaimer The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 00:35:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4MNXXu15994 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 00:33:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MNXUp15985 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 00:33:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4MNXTU27793 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 00:33:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12u1hO-000960-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 22 May 2000 23:33:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 22:52:37 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? References: <53CAF6AD6B08D3118F700008C7A473E91BAF82@ukbirexc06.uk.kworld.kpmg.com> In-Reply-To: <53CAF6AD6B08D3118F700008C7A473E91BAF82@ukbirexc06.uk.kworld.kpmg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Eagles, Colin L writes >I would like to thank Nancy, Ian... At last! I, too, would like to thank Nancy for bothering to make the effort. And Ian for providing whatever support and assistance he could when the need arose. For those of us that played, or didn't, it happened, and it wasn't as much fun as it could have been. For Nancy and Ian, they've got to re- negotiate with the venue..., which won't be easy, and definitely won't be fun. I'd like to hope that this setback will not dissuade Nancy from continuing to be involved in the whole organisational structure of Ultimate, and even dare to hope that she may even make the effort to host another tournament. If she does make that effort again, I'd expect the rest of us to trust that she has learned any necessary lessons, and be there. As British Ultimate grows, it needs more tournaments, with directors and venues. We don't really appear to be encouraging them. As for the evolution of the Tour, and/or UK Ultimate in general, the Tour was designed on principles focussed on a specific sector of players in mind, and a fuzzy boundary for how those principles could be extended. It seems more than apparent that those fuzzy boundaries are at full stretch. If anyone has sensible propositions for the evolution of UK Ultimate, think them through properly, and submit them to the BUF. Ideally they need to be submitted now, 'cos it's near enough time to start trying to arrange the 2001 calendar... Wayne Retter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 01:03:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N02hh20163 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:02:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N02gp20156 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:02:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.176]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N02fV29758 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:02:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-60.monkeyface-eel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.40.188] helo=hal9000) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12u29g-0000w4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:02:41 +0100 Message-ID: <003001bfc380$783606a0$bc28893e@hal9000> From: "Benjamin Crick" To: "britdisc@csv.wearwick.ac.uk" Subject: Lost watch! Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:58:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01BFC388.D8B3E4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BFC388.D8B3E4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry to bother everyone on BD but did anyone pick up a Pulsar Titanium = analogue watch at Student Outdoor Nationals? It is quite dear to me and = I will happily cover any costs to get it back. Thanks Ben Crick Mohawks P.S. Can't use Student Ultimate yet! ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BFC388.D8B3E4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry to bother everyone on BD but did anyone pick = up a Pulsar=20 Titanium analogue watch at Student Outdoor Nationals? It is quite dear = to me and=20 I  will happily cover any costs to get it back. = Thanks
 
Ben Crick
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P.S. Can't use Student Ultimate=20 yet!
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BFC388.D8B3E4E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 08:30:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N7S9104422 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:28:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N7S8p04410 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:28:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4N7S6V24533 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:28:07 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA19333 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Tue, 23 May 2000 08:26:53 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 23 May 2000 08:26:53 +0100 Message-Id: <001a01bfc488$c1621450$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fw: Tour 2 results Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:30:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On 22nd May Andy Cotgreave wrote : >The way that we agreed was to treat Catch as if they had not ever entered this tournament. >They get no points for Tour II, therefore, and are seeded for Tour III based on their Tour I position, as written in the rules. I might have missed the answer to this question in the pile of e-mails sat in my Inbox this morning but: Can we have a clarification on whether the points for 12th place have simply disappeared or whether those teams in 13th to 29th places simply move up a spot ? Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 08:36:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N7ZoH05748 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:35:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N7Zmp05743 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h015.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.115]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4N7ZhU16796 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:35:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 29633 invoked from network); 23 May 2000 08:34:56 +0100 Date: 23 May 2000 08:34:56 +0100 Message-ID: <20000523073456.29632.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 23 May 2000 07:34:56 GMT Received: from [147.188.104.132] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 23 May 2000 08:34:56 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Re: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Whilst it is great having close to 35 teams at each event there does come a point where, due to cross-overs and the like, final positions of teams becomes more 'luck of the draw' and not always reflects the true performance of a team. I know it comes down to winning the crucial games when you have to but I can see that running much smaller events could also reduce the 'lottery' factor. I think that maybe tournies with 12 teams (perhaps 3 of these equivilent to one of the current Tour events, effectively a div. 1, 2 and 3) with perhaps 3 teams promoted and 3 demoted after each round could provide an alternative. I realise that organising 3 events is a much harder prospect than 1, but I know about a few of the difficulties of getting (and keeping) venues. A 5 pitch tournie is a much less daunting prospect that a 10 pitch-er and any team can organise 5 decent pitches, even some of the high flying teams! This is effectively the system that the Dutch frisbee bond adopt, though theirs is only a league system. I'm suggesting a league/tournie highbrid. Slipdisc wish to thank Nancy and Ian for all their efforts, though next time we'll bring our rollers! Mal. The Mighty (slip)Disc. mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 09:52:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N8IKs12226 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:18:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N8IHp12209 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:18:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N8IHV00133 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 09:18:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from dns0.rmplc.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mail.rmplc.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #10) id 12u9Pq-0002gz-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 07:47:50 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA24177 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:47:50 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:47:48 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F12703267E7C@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: Britdisc Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:47:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk chris is going to announce it all formally, but to put everyone's minds at rest, the 12th position won't be left blank. therefore, 13th place becomes 12th, 14th becomes 13th, etc. Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: James Hewitson [mailto:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 8:30 AM > To: Britdisc > Subject: Fw: Tour 2 results > > > On 22nd May Andy Cotgreave wrote : > > >The way that we agreed was to treat Catch as if they had not > ever entered > this tournament. > >They get no points for Tour II, therefore, and are seeded > for Tour III > based on their Tour I position, as written in the rules. > > I might have missed the answer to this question in the pile > of e-mails sat > in my Inbox this morning but: > > Can we have a clarification on whether the points for 12th > place have simply > disappeared or whether those teams in 13th to 29th places > simply move up a > spot ? > > Balti > BAF 34 > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 10:09:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N95n924359 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:05:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N95lp24350 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:05:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from web3706.mail.yahoo.com (web3706.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.135]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4N95kV07796 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:05:46 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000523090540.15054.qmail@web3706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.82.103.35] by web3706.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:05:40 BST Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:05:40 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: Re: Lack of Tour hosts To: BritDisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I realise that this is not necessarily directly related, BUT. . . I know for certain that the University I attend (Durham) has only really just recognised us for a sport and not a social club, using some 'minor sport' to get together for a laugh. As such only this year have we been exceedingly lucky to have had one very nice pitch marked out for us. However, the likelihood of any more is very slim and so (this is the main point) some of the best kept playing fields, at Unis, are not being made available for any thought of holding a Tour event. It strikes me that the ongoing battle to gain recognition from BUSA may be a crucial issue. Is there any news on this? Once the Universities are forced to recognise us for a sport (unlike that Fire-Run thing sent out the other day), it will open up a wide range of extra venues, plus give the Unis extra funding which would also aid any intention of hosting an event, Tour or Student based. Zé, Northern Lights AKA- Socks, TFC ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 10:10:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N98Y825641 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:08:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N986p25370 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:08:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N982U28680 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:08:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-38.seaborgium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.73.38] helo=abel.digitalasylum.co.uk) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12uAfR-0006M0-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:08:01 +0100 Received: from MORPHEUS (morpheus.int.digitalasylum.co.uk [10.1.1.10]) by abel.digitalasylum.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08962 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:08:48 +0100 From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: Subject: Re: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:11:54 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I can't remember if/when this topic was discussed before - I have a vague recollection of a Swedish chap mentioning that it worked over there a couple of years ago (i.e. before the current tour system was introduced) - but, how about moving to a more ladder-based tour system, moving the emphasis from each tour's results to each game. As a very rough guess, you could have, say, pools of 4 or 6, each team of similiar ability. Within each pool, teams would be considered higher or lower by their point score. A team could then 'challenge' any other team within its pool, or the pool above and maybe sometimes the pool above that. I say 'challenge', because the most workable way of ensuring that games happen would be to have a tournament, where the TD decides who's going to challenge who, based on who's playing at that tournament and when each team last met. The teams points would be kept as an aggregate of each game played that year. Obviously, it should be in a teams interest to play as much as they can, so that if a team keeps not entering tournies, other teams will start overtaking their point score. This would also enable teams geographically close to each other to play outside the organised tournaments, opening the tournaments for more games played between non-geographically close teams. It would also allow for more smaller regional tournaments. A scoring system on each game played, such as: Winning Drawing Losing two pools above you 5 3 0 in the pool above you 4 2 0 in your pool 3 1 0 in the pool below you 1 0 -1 two pools below you 0 -1 -2 would give teams an oppurtunity to rise quickly up the board from a low position, if they had a strong team, whilst encouraging better teams to keep winning and turning up. On the other hand, there would be no winners as such, from individual tournaments, but maybe this will make the spirit prize more alluring to some... Just my two pence, (and you can tell I can't be bothered to actually do any work this morning!) Ralf -- Ranulf Doswell, Digital Asylum Limited Phone: 024 7663 2767 (intl +4424 7663 2767) Fax: 024 7663 4370 (intl +4424 7663 4370) Mobile: 07968 199 662 (intl +4479 6819 9662) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 10:28:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4N9RRL02396 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:27:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N9RPp02387 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:27:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4N9RPU03023 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:27:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.17.46]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 12uAyb-00021m-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 10:27:49 +0100 Received: from MMU-ART-MAGELLAN/SpoolDir by magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.31); 23 May 100 10:27:24 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-ART-MAGELLAN (Mercury 1.31); 23 May 100 10:25:55 GMT From: "Grae Hall" <97037486@mmu.ac.uk> Organization: MMU To: BritDisc Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:25:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Lack of Tour Hosts, BUSA X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <14E42160F35@magellan.all.stu.mmu.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4N9RQp02388 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And lo, it was written that Ze of Northen Lights would write: > > It strikes me that the ongoing battle to gain > recognition from BUSA may be a crucial issue. Is > there any news on this? Once the Universities are > forced to recognise us for a sport (unlike that > Fire-Run thing sent out the other day), it will open > up a wide range of extra venues, plus give the Unis > extra funding which would also aid any intention of > hosting an event, Tour or Student based. > > Zé, Northern Lights > AKA- Socks, TFC > > Personally I'm not sure that recognicion by BUSA will do us any favours. I've been deeply involved with the Athletic Union at Manchester Met for the past couple of years & from what I've seen, BUSA seems to cause more headaches than it solves. Grae. Fingers 6. See ya, Grae. ************************************************************************ 'The wicked go to hell, the good go to heaven and the pure neither live nor even die, but those hit on the head tend to fall unconscious.' Narrator (Monkey) ************************************************************************ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 11:20:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NAJbJ17432 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:19:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NAJZp17412 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:19:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f53.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NAJYU11077 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:19:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 62936 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 2000 08:32:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20000523083245.62935.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 129.11.119.146 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 May 2000 01:32:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.119.146] From: "Matthew Hims" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A word or two from Catch Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:32:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, For anyone who might be interested here is Catch's perspective on weekend. Some of our comments have already been made by others, but to make a complete story we've left them in................... A couple of pre-comments: 1. Thanks as always to the people (Nancy + Ian Stebbing, Chris Hughes, U8 Committee, etc) who make the effort to run ultimate tournaments; 2. Hope that nobody was injured seriously this weekend. We are certainly not interested in assigning any "blame" around the place. The reason for writing now is to try to move things in the right direction, given that there have clearly been problems this year. 1. Why did Catch not play? Catch 22 had a team of 11 players at Tour 2. 10 of them will be playing at Worlds this summer. We take the tour very seriously, but feel that it is less important than representing GB (or NZ!) at Worlds. When we saw the fields this weekend we decided that a) the risk of injury was extremely high if we played at anything like 100% b) playing at below 100% is worse than not playing (and often does nothing to reduce likelihood of injury anyway) c) getting injured at this point in the season would be a disaster in the context of WUC. 2. What did we do to salvage our games? After discussing the situation with the other teams in our groups we believed that if we found a field close by they would come to play us. At around 10:30 we found a very good football field next to The Folly pub just outside the racecourse and established that we could use it (for free) all day - although probably not on Sunday. We went there immediately to practice, and told the other teams about the field. However it became clear by 12:30 that the other teams had decided to take the walkover since we weren't going to be at the alloted "pitch". 3. What did we do? Given that our solution was clearly not acceptable to our opponents we realised that we needed to discuss the situation with the ultim8 committee (u8c). If we played no games then we would finish 12th, and then have to start Tour 3 from 12th position. This would be a nonsense. It was agreed that a) Catch would be "withdrawn" (I forget the nice phrase we used) from the tournament - thereby scoring zero points b) there would be no penalty imposed on Catch c) Catch would be seeded 2 or 3 in the next Tour event depending on the final finishing position obtained by Dough Boy d) Catch would ideally be refunded in full for their entry depending on the finances of the tournament and the BUF. 4. Did we do the right thing? Who knows? We think so. I hope that nobody was injured - although this wasn't the impression we got from the First Aid team at the tournament on Saturday afternoon. I spoke to a number of people on Saturday - admittedly not a good cross-section of players - and certainly no more than 20 in detail. Without exception they all agreed that a) the fields were unacceptable and likely to cause injury b) it was impossible to play properly c) they understood our position well. A smaller number of them also stated that a) they thought we were right not to play b) they had not wanted to play but had felt pressurised to do so by teammates and/or opponents. One other person that we spoke to was refusing to play although his teammates continued. See you on the beautiful fields of Southampton!!!!! Catch22 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 12:10:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NB7rm03390 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:07:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NB7op03375 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:07:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f15.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NB7nU19605 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:07:50 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 61825 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 2000 11:07:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000523110734.61824.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.194.46 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 May 2000 04:07:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.46] From: "Faye Boothroyd" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: student status Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:07:34 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi britdisc! I will hopefully be studying with the Open University next year, and wondered if somebody could clarify the student quakification rules for peole not attached to a specific university/town. All comments welcomed. Thanks Faye (ex Jedi) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 12:23:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NBL1e07400 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:21:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NBKwp07393 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:20:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mh-a03.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NBKvV04172 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:20:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 20058 invoked from network); 23 May 2000 11:20:54 -0000 Received: from www-a20.backend.funmail.co.uk (HELO www-a20) (172.16.100.20) by mh-a03.backend.another.com with SMTP; 23 May 2000 11:20:54 -0000 Message-ID: <27828002.959080849586.JavaMail.root@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:20:49 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: bruce@pointblank.co.uk To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="21040545.959080849440.JavaMail.root@www-a20" X-Funmail-UID: 268015 X-Senders-IP: unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --21040545.959080849440.JavaMail.root@www-a20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Given that the original stated aim of the Tour was to give close games to a= ll the teams involved, it appears to have failed this year. Whilst the top = teams may be getting more close games than in other tournaments, the teams = outside the top 8 get a lot of games where there is no doubt who is going t= o win, the only way to get worked up for these games is to aim for a bagel,= or aim not to get bageled, which is not particularly pleasant for either s= ide involved. The main problem here seems to be that there is a very notica= ble gap between the top 14 or so and the rest, a gap of 10 or more points i= n any given game. Given that we are currently managing Tour events with 30+ teams (just) it s= eems to me that organising the event into 2 distinct groups should be feasi= ble, but rather than having promotion and relegation based on final positio= n in each catagory, the last 2-4 in the 'A' Tour play one extra game at the= end against the top 4-2 in the 'B' Tour, with victory meaning promotion fo= r the 'B' side. This should (could) mean avoiding the issue of teams bounci= ng up and down between A and B because the gap is too large, and would impr= ove the overall quality of games for the teams outside the top 8. Just some thoughts Bruce Point Blank PS. I agree with Balti...decision regarding points allocation please? -----Original Message----- >From : Chris Hughes To : =93'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'=93 ; =93'E= agles, Colin L'=93 Date : 22 May 2000 22:34:39 Subject : RE: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? At this stage can I refer people to the article that was published in Ultim= ate this time last year. It was distributed at Edinburgh. It was intended t= o try and make people think about the options open to the tour. Hopefully p= eople will think again about what is trying to be achieved with the tour. R= emember that T1 this year had 33 teams. It is not unthinkable to realise th= at we could well have a 36 team tournament at some stage during the year. > >Chris >DoC > >Extract from Ultimatum article (May 1999); >However, when I took on the job last summer it was recognised that the tou= r needed some revamping to enable it to continue, the tour is effectively g= etting too large. The changes made this year was minor, but I put a serious= constraint on prospective tournament organisers in insisting that each eve= nt was able to cope with 32 teams, and thereby have a minimum of 10 pitches= . There aren't many venues that can cope with about 400 people, which is wh= at I estimate to be the attendance at an average tour tournament, thereby l= imiting the number of locations for tour events. (If any one knows of a ten= + pitch venue this is your cue to speak up..) The largest event last year w= as tour II with 28 teams, with the rest attracting 24 teams each, both tour= I & II (so far) have had a minimum of 30 teams, and that trend is expected= to continue for the rest of the year. This expansion has pushed the tour t= o its feasible limit, in terms of venue size, schedule, and accommodation r= equirements for! > each event. > >As if that wasn't a problem enough, the tour is swamping the season. This = year the tour events are every 3 - 4 weeks. This limits the possibilities f= or teams, inc. the representative teams, to have practices on a regular bas= is, players to have a weekend for families, non-playing girlfriends, life? = What about the so called 'small' tournaments? These are slowly getting sque= ezed out, or left in that barren period over the summer, when half the play= ers have gone off for a number of weeks for that years major championship, = holidays, or because the universities have broken up. Not only that but the= tour is now seen by many as the premier event in the country, above Nation= als. So what are the options; continuing to expand as tour is presently doi= ng is not one that is realistically open to us. > >The initial response is to simply cut down the tour size; the initial obje= ctive of the tour was to provide the elite (-ish) teams with suitable compe= tition to improve their games, and play games that are comparable to the ga= mes encountered at Worlds, and hopefully counteract the poor British showin= g at these events. So trimming it down to 12 or 16 teams seems the logical = response. Yet it is obvious that the performance of the lower ranked teams = have improved with the competition against comparable teams in their groups= . So this approached has benefited many, and excluding them from the set-up= is not an option - the BUF has to work for all teams, not just the top few= . > >Another option is to establish a B-Tour; and after tour I, split the tour = into two events running simultaneously with promotion and relegation of som= e sort between the two events. This allows the tour to expand, as finding t= wo venues on the same or adjacent weekends with six pitches each is easier = than finding a venue with twelve (finding the TD's is a different matter). = However players like meeting their friends; what about clubs with two teams= split between the two divisions; and what about couples playing on teams i= n different divisions. A lot of people play ultimate for the social side. H= owever it may be possible, if a venue is big enough to host both the A- and= B-tour at the same venue, but that is dependant on the size of the events.= People then suggest that the 'small' tournaments could host the B-tour eve= nts, but this then puts restrictions on these events, that the organisers m= ay not want. > >More options include making the 'small' tournaments qualifying events, for= those teams not already in the tour, whilst allowing the top teams to ente= r as well. This leads to problems in scheduling, teams fighting for entry, = and again restrictions on the tournament organisers and formats. I believe = that people want to be able to enter a tournament, play different teams, en= joy themselves without constantly pressurised by issues of qualification. > >This may be alleviated by reducing the number of tour events to four or ev= en three, thereby producing more time in the year for these satellite event= s, without encroaching on already existing tournaments, and providing enoug= h events for teams to attend through out the year. Also by changing the sha= pe and size of the tour, this would encourage Women's teams to commit to th= e tour, allowing for a Women's event building to Women's Nationals. > > >---------- >From: =09Eagles, Colin L[SMTP:colin.eagles@kpmg.co.uk] >Sent: =0922 May 2000 20:21 >To: =09'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' >Subject: =09Re: Tour 2 - is the Tour too large? > >Is it the case that there are just not enough suitable venues for events t= he >size of the Tour events of the past couple of seasons? > >As Chris noted, he had just four bids for Tour events this year. Whilst I >know of a number of venues in the Milton Keynes/ Northampton area which >could provide 6-8 pitches of real quality, any more is very unlikely. > >I'm sure the number of bids is something of a reflection of the situation = up >and down the country. > >If we wish to maintain the quality of pitches, perhaps it is time to reduc= e >the size of these events. > >At the same time, I'm sure there would be greater support for non-Tour >events. To that end, I hope that the coed events in the summer are a real >success. > >There have been fewer non-Tour events over the last couple of years, as a >lot of players' disposable time and money has been taken up to attend the >Tour and make it the success it has become. > >To a lesser extent, both with more open teams, and the last year or two of >regional student leagues, the Tour has clashed with exams etc. somewhat >restricting the student teams. Perhaps there could be more smaller, almost >regional events that took this into consideration. > >Given that the issue of safe playing surfaces has to be a priority, is the >way to solve the problem? > >I guess there are a number of other issues that would have to be addressed >if this were to happen, such as how to decide who goes to each tournament, >but I imagine that if we can make sure of high quality surfaces at all >events, then it will solve the issue of teams not wanting to play. I agree >with Hannah that the pitches caused concern for many more of the teams >besides Catch. > > >I would like to thank Nancy, Ian and everyone involved in the organisation >of Tour 2 for the quality and smooth running of every other aspect of the >event. See you all at Tour 3. > >Slasher >Point Blank >=09=09Email Disclaimer > >The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privilege= d. >It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone e= lse=20 >is unauthorised. >If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distributi= on=20 >or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibite= d >and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice >contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed = in=20 >the governing KPMG client engagement letter. > > Your email address says a lot about you. Express yourself @ another.com http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=3Danother.com/login.jsp?sig=3D393 --21040545.959080849440.JavaMail.root@www-a20-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 13:04:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NC31o23170 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:03:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NC2wp23157 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:02:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate02.e-mail.com (eugate02.e-mail.com [194.196.143.94]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NC2wV12820 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:02:58 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id MAA28182 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 12:00:22 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:03:48 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBF38A7C@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: A word or two from UTI Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:03:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Afternoon Just have to respond to one point in Catch's letter. I can't speak for the other teams in our pool (Chevy and Druids), but UTI did not 'decide to take the walkover'. We were also deeply unhappy about playing on those fields (note to Americans: if you still don't know the difference between a pitch and a field go to Towcester), and there was even talk of moving our entire pool to another venue. Catch, our first opponents, found another pitch nearby and asked us if we wanted to come up to their pitch to play. But by this time the tournament was already behind schedule, and to have gone to play them there at that time would have meant two very tough games virtually back-to-back. As Catch said it's important to play at 100%, and that includes a proper warm up, warm down and break between games. Given that we had a small squad (9 men), and a relatively large chance of injury, we decided that we weren't prepared to accept this unfair penalty and told Catch that we would play our other two games as scheduled before making any decision (we actually asked both Chevy & Druids if they wanted to bring forward our games). As things worked out there was meeting of Catch, the U8 committe etc. in the afternoon which decided that they'd withdraw from Tour II and we were never called upon to make that decision. For the record I quite understand why Catch withdrew (or whatever they did), and the number of crocked ankles on Saturday suggests that they weren't being too wussy. However we stand by our decision not to play the game at that time. Alex UTI All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. 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If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 13:17:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NCEhv26951 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:14:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NCEep26931 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:14:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NCEQV15544 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:14:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue May 23 05:14:07 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:14:07 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Lack of Tour hosts X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Joe Graves wrote: >I know for certain that the University I attend >(Durham) has only really just recognised us for >a sport and not a social club, using some >'minor sport' to get together for a laugh. >As such only this year have we been exceedingly >lucky to have had one very nice pitch marked >out for us. Recognition by your Uni is not necessary for hiring their sports fields! [Yes, recognition might be useful, as BUSA might then get involved in the organisational work, set up Student Leagues, etc...] examples: Warwick Uni recognises Ultimate and has (2?) dedicated Ultimate pitches, but there hasn't been a "Warwick Outdoors" for a while; Southampton Uni has recognised Ultimate as a Colours sport for a fair few years now, but I'm not sure that the AU has yet dedicated a pitch for Ultimate training/match purposes... yet they will allow use of the entire sports facility for weekend tournaments. If Students approached their universities requesting use of the entire sports facility for a weekend, wouldn't this help the bid for recognition...? e.g. The Lurkers used the Imperial College grounds at Cobham for a tournament last year, and all of a sudden IC worked out what their Ultimate club were really about... The way things are going at the moment, if you approach a Uni and say, "We want to hire your fields, and we want you to mark them like this..." they're not too bothered WHY, so long as you'll pay the price, and you're not going to clash with another sports pre-booked fixtures. If Students are willing to approach their Unis to investigaet the possibilities of using the facilities for tournaments, but are unsure as to what else needs to be done in tournament organisation, there are people and resources that can help. Wayne --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com 07970-903420 (mobile) __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 14:00:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NCwjb10734 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:58:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NCwhp10711 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:58:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NCwZV22912 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:58:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12uEGW-000Cr8-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:58:33 +0100 Subject: Re: Lack of Tour Hosts, BUSA Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:01:50 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >I've been deeply involved with the Athletic Union at >Manchester Met for the past couple of years & from what I've seen, >BUSA seems to cause more headaches than it solves. > >Grae. >Fingers 6. Re the difficulty of finding venues... What tends to happen with University sports facilities over the summer (July/Aug/Sep) months? Do we not stage many events at Universities because they're hosting other stuff in the summer? Or is it because it's out of term time and there's no-one on the spot to organise it? Or will they simply not host events unconnected with the University? Can't remember the last time there was a "mainstream" outdoor tournament at Warwick, for instance. Just wondering... Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 14:24:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NDMFl18470 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:22:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NDMDp18465 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:22:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from icarus.dur.ac.uk (icarus.dur.ac.uk [129.234.1.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NDMDV27275 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:22:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.dur.ac.uk (mercury.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.40]) by icarus.dur.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05658; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:22:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [129.234.53.19] (s-cws19.dur.ac.uk [129.234.53.19]) by mercury.dur.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13831; Tue, 23 May 2000 14:22:08 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 14:22:08 +0100 Subject: Re: Lack of Tour hosts From: Paul Williamson To: , Wayne Retter , BritDisc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Unfortunately Durham is an unusual case. The arrangement between the Provider of sporting facilities and the Athletic Union is complicated. When it comes to marking out pitches and hiring courts the sports centre can afford to be choosy. They love to host antiques fairs, but aren't so keen to host anything that requires use of pitches. They are a centre of excellence for Cricket so people running all over their lovely grass is very upsetting. Having said that we may be able to gain access to these beautiful pitches at some point. Gentle persuasion and building up to larger events is working well at the moment. Hopefully we'll be in a position to bid for a major event for the outdoor season next year. Look forward to seeing you all up in Durham at some point. Soon to be the greatest outdoor Ultimate location in the NORTH of England. Paul ------------------------- Paul Williamson (Squeaky) Northern Lights, Durham Ultimate Frisbee on 23/5/2000 12:14 pm, Wayne Retter at w.retter@england.com wrote: > Joe Graves wrote: >> I know for certain that the University I attend >> (Durham) has only really just recognised us for >> a sport and not a social club, using some >> 'minor sport' to get together for a laugh. >> As such only this year have we been exceedingly >> lucky to have had one very nice pitch marked >> out for us. > > Recognition by your Uni is not necessary for hiring their sports fields! > > [Yes, recognition might be useful, as BUSA might then get involved in the > organisational work, set up Student Leagues, etc...] > > examples: > > Warwick Uni recognises Ultimate and has (2?) dedicated Ultimate pitches, but > there hasn't been a "Warwick Outdoors" for a while; > > Southampton Uni has recognised Ultimate as a Colours sport for a fair few > years now, but I'm not sure that the AU has yet dedicated a pitch for Ultimate > training/match purposes... yet they will allow use of the entire sports > facility for weekend tournaments. > > If Students approached their universities requesting use of the entire sports > facility for a weekend, wouldn't this help the bid for recognition...? > > e.g. The Lurkers used the Imperial College grounds at Cobham for a tournament > last year, and all of a sudden IC worked out what their Ultimate club were > really about... > > The way things are going at the moment, if you approach a Uni and say, "We > want to hire your fields, and we want you to mark them like this..." they're > not too bothered WHY, so long as you'll pay the price, and you're not going to > clash with another sports pre-booked fixtures. > > If Students are willing to approach their Unis to investigaet the > possibilities of using the facilities for tournaments, but are unsure as to > what else needs to be done in tournament organisation, there are people and > resources that can help. > > Wayne > > --- > Wayne Retter > w.retter@bigfoot.com > 07970-903420 (mobile) > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 15:23:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NEJK208282 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:19:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NEJHp08265 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:19:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NEJEV08929 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:19:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id QAA00932; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:19:02 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma000930; Tue, 23 May 00 16:19:05 +0200 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA20835; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:18:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA06371; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:18:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900008882845; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:20:55 +0200 To: Cc: , Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Message-ID: <0056900008882845000002L052*@MHS> Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:20:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 05/23/00 13:01:11" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4NEJHp08266 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all, Just to go on record, I was not having a go at the organisers. It is a real shame that the pitches were in such a bad way! The venue seemed on (first arrival) very promising. I think we need to just keep in mind that one of the key criteria is the pitch quality... the rest is a bonus and while people would complain at camping etc not beening on site the point is we get to play in a relativly safe environment, injuries happen and we all except this, but lets not start at a disadvantage! I think that if these pitchs could be re-laid or modified into an exceptable condition, it would be a fantastic venue! The rest of the organisation etc... seemed very good. All credit to the people who took time out to sort it all. Cheers Hannah raf.freire@bristol.ac.uk@SMTP@warwick.ac.uk on 22/05/2000 18:01:03 Sent by: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk To: acotgreave@rm.com@SMTP cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk@SMTP Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Classification: Restricted Hannah wrote: > > before worlds,) ...I agreed with Catch's boycote of the > venue Before things get out of hand... Can't speak for the whole of catch, but I wouldn't like to think that we did anything as politically provocative as boycot the event. We just didn't think that we could play safely on the pitches. Obviously, we're gutted that we didn't get a chance to compete and improve on our Tour I position. But we're also really sorry for Nancy that the venue (in my opinion) is not suitable for ultimate despite all her effort. Perhaps Towcester racecourse might consider laying some playing field?... Rafi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 15:25:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NENou10038 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:23:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NENlp10009 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:23:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NENlU20074 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:23:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:18:14 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 15:18:41 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E68B@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Matthew Hims'" Subject: RE: A word or two from Catch Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:18:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bob wrote > d) Catch would ideally be refunded in full for their entry depending on > the > finances of the tournament and the BUF. > I was agreed by the u8c committee that Catch's request to be refunded would be considered by the u8c, and a recommendation forwarded to the BUF. No agreement was made beyond this. No decision was made about whether this refund may come from Ian and Nancy, as organisers or the BUF as sponsors of the event. We felt on the day that this was a complication that need not affect any immediate decision on the 'retired before hurt' action by Catch. Bob is accurate on all other aspects of the meeting and decisions made. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 16:54:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NFqdc11450 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:52:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NFqbp11445 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:52:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1802.mail.yahoo.com (web1802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.45]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NFqaU29637 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:52:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 2942 invoked by uid 60001); 23 May 2000 15:52:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000523155233.2941.qmail@web1802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.44.139.195] by web1802.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 23 May 2000 08:52:33 PDT Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jonathan=20Pearce?= Subject: Venues To: Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Guys, Personally, believe that the state of the tour is healthy and works well when it works well, like Swindon for example. However, this obviously means we need decent venues that can handle such a large number of people. It is all good and well saying that splitting into two is a great idea, but as it has been said, many people play for the social aspect (since I'm crap it's the only reason I turn up!) and for many other reasons. About 32 teams is the optimal amount for enjoyment and capacity in my opinion. Admittedly, the sport is growing in size, and the need for leagues is not too distant. But let's stop getting our knickers in a twist. People are saying that there is a lack of large suitable venues, but have people really made a great effort to look? I think not. There's a whole country out there. I know for sure that Point Blank have great hopes to organise a tour event for next year, and we have several options in mind. This has been a useful time to kick people up the backside and make them realise you can't always rely on other people to do everything. Perhaps someone should post something on britdisc/BUF that COMPREHENSIVELY details what organising a tournament entails, and the incentives for teams/players to do it. It's about time we start acting pre-emptively to ensure the smooth running of a great sport as players, and stop relying on an overworked and underpaid BUF/core few. CONVOY - "I'd better get brownie points for this" Point Blank & Jedi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 16:54:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NFrhD11739 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:53:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NFrfp11723 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:53:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NFraU29779 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:53:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (arts-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.124.2]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22754 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 16:53:22 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200005231553.QAA22754@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H22/SpoolDir by arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 23 May 00 16:54:18 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H22 (Mercury 1.47); 23 May 00 16:53:59 GMT From: "Anna Winter" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 16:53:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Buying discs. Reply-to: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks for all of you who responded. Brit-disc truly is fantastic when you need Ultimate advice! I have decided it will be more effort that it is worth, especially as I had no intention of not paying duty. I can't face lugging the boxes all the way back by myself anyway. Cheers again, Anna. Jedi Children xxx Anna. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 17:06:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NG5Jd15469 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:05:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NG5Gp15458 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:05:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (relay2.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.107.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NG5GV05680 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:05:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.82.136.110] (helo=Farid) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12uHB8-0003t2-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:05:10 +0100 Message-ID: <008c01bfc4d0$fce87e40$6e8852c1@home2home> From: "Colin Smith" To: Subject: Dodgy fields Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:07:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Given the apparent widespread feeling that this event was not up to the standard everyone would like, and given that one of the stronger teams in the tour was not involved, why are ANY results from the event still standing? Do Catch still have any chance of gaining a representative placing at the end of the tour? I'm sure that the teams who played and improved on their positions from tour one would disagree, but if the pitches were that bad, and a number of unnecessary injuries occured as a result (possibly to key players?), are the final placings (and therefore points allocated) any reflection of the relative standard of the teams involved in the tour. And for the record: No, I wasn't there - injury that I'm glad I rested. I applaud anyone who has the time, dedication & application to host a tournament or run the sport. No, I don't believe that teams who took the time to travel long distances should be rewarded for their dedication. Had I travelled up from London I would definitely have played (long way to go without playing - and I'm sure some had longer journeys), but wouldn't have had a problem with Tour points not counting. I think the tour should be tiered. Five National Tour events with 16 competing each one, maintaining the basic principle of good competition for top teams, and maybe two regional qualification events with top team from each replacing bottom two of tour. The idea of play-off games is fantastic, but how do you work it. If 10 pitches is tough, how tough is it going to be to find two tournament directors and two 6 pitch venues close to one another? Colin Hammerage COLIN SMITH Account Executive e-commerce www.08004homes.com colin@08004homes.com Tel: 020 7864 2807 Fax: 020 7864 2809 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 17:07:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NG6ev15899 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:06:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NG6bp15881 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:06:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NG6aU02047 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:06:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:01:09 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:01:36 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E68D@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: Britdisc , "'Jonathan Pearce'" Subject: RE: Venues Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:01:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >It's about time we start acting pre-emptively to >ensure the smooth running of a great sport as players, >and stop relying on an overworked and underpaid >BUF/core few UNDERPAID?!?!? Oh, for the day when I'm underpaid to do this crap! > ---------- > From: Jonathan Pearce[SMTP:johnnyp_76@yahoo.com] > Sent: 23 May 2000 16:52 > To: Britdisc > Subject: Venues > > Guys, > Personally, believe that the state of the tour is > healthy and works well when it works well, like > Swindon for example. However, this obviously means we > need decent venues that can handle such a large number > of people. It is all good and well saying that > splitting into two is a great idea, but as it has been > said, many people play for the social aspect (since > I'm crap it's the only reason I turn up!) and for many > other reasons. About 32 teams is the optimal amount > for enjoyment and capacity in my opinion. > > Admittedly, the sport is growing in size, and the need > for leagues is not too distant. But let's stop > getting our knickers in a twist. People are saying > that there is a lack of large suitable venues, but > have people really made a great effort to look? I > think not. There's a whole country out there. I know > for sure that Point Blank have great hopes to organise > a tour event for next year, and we have several > options in mind. This has been a useful time to kick > people up the backside and make them realise you can't > always rely on other people to do everything. Perhaps > someone should post something on britdisc/BUF that > COMPREHENSIVELY details what organising a tournament > entails, and the incentives for teams/players to do > it. > > It's about time we start acting pre-emptively to > ensure the smooth running of a great sport as players, > and stop relying on an overworked and underpaid > BUF/core few. > > CONVOY - "I'd better get brownie points for this" > Point Blank & Jedi > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 17:50:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NGnlg28636 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:49:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NGnjp28624 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:49:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.jakinternet.co.uk (qmailr@[212.41.41.61]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NGnjV12909 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:49:45 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 23292 invoked by uid 101); 23 May 2000 16:27:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.41.39.111?) (212.41.39.111) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 23 May 2000 16:27:40 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by daletaylor.co.uk (CommuniGate SMTP 2.9) with ESMTP id S.002128312484 for ,...; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:49:41 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:51:27 +0100 Subject: Re: Dodgy fields From: Nolan Taylor To: Colin Smith , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008c01bfc4d0$fce87e40$6e8852c1@home2home> Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ? 3?R 3? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > From: "Colin Smith" > Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:07:16 +0100 > To: > Subject: Dodgy fields > > Given the apparent widespread feeling that this event was not up to the > standard everyone would like, and given that one of the stronger teams in > the tour was not involved, why are ANY results from the event still > standing? Do Catch still have any chance of gaining a representative placing > at the end of the tour? > > I'm sure that the teams who played and improved on their positions from tour > one would disagree, but if the pitches were that bad, and a number of > unnecessary injuries occured as a result (possibly to key players?), are the > final placings (and therefore points allocated) any reflection of the > relative standard of the teams involved in the tour. > > And for the record: > > No, I wasn't there - injury that I'm glad I rested. > > I applaud anyone who has the time, dedication & application to host a > tournament or run the sport. > > No, I don't believe that teams who took the time to travel long distances > should be rewarded for their dedication. Had I travelled up from London I > would definitely have played (long way to go without playing - and I'm sure > some had longer journeys), but wouldn't have had a problem with Tour points > not counting. > All fine & dandy, but how far do we take this... If players injured in the event are still injured come tourIII & maybe even IV, do we not distribute points from those? If someone (Please no!!!) acquired an injury that will trouble them for the rest their playing career, do all points from all future GB events stop being distributed? I have nothing against C22's refusal to risk their fitness. In fact, on reflection I think it was a brave decision. However, that decision was taken in the full knowledge of the facts at that time. IE that the event went ahead without them, and points would be issued to the teams still participating. It is also fair that C22 are deemed 'not to have attended' and therefore carry over their seeding from tourI. BUT let's not set further dangerously wide-reaching precedents. Cheers Nolan From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 17:59:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NGwJR00962 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:58:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NGwHp00954 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:58:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost ([213.130.129.51]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NGwFU10023 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:58:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from KEVIN (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:02:39 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC4DF.B0FD3AC0@KEVIN>; Tue, 23 May 2000 17:52:41 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC4DF.B0FD3AC0@KEVIN> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:52:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4NGwHp00955 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm sure that Catch had done their maths before deciding not to play on those fields this weekend. It was also a factor in teams like UTI and Chevron not trying to re-locate the entire pool to another site - the fear that we could lose our points for Tour 2 combined with rather poor (for Chevron and UTI anyway) results from Tour 1. One implication of Catch getting no points though is the seeding for Nationals, since this year, you don't get to drop your worst result. If this year's Nationals was qualification for World Clubs, then I'd expect teams to be asking for a different format for Nationals so to avoid a 'pool of death' when one of last year's top three clubs could not make the semis. Maybe we should be looking at the German system where Nationals consists of the top 8 teams where everyone plays everyone else (so initial seedings are irrelevant). That would require a three day tournament, but it does reduce the luck element. As it is, World clubs have been moved back a year due to the World Games, but there could be some tactical finishing in Tour 4 if it looks like the pools at Nationals are biased in some way. I'm surprised that people are talking about the German and Dutch division based systems though. They tend to work well in countries where players do not move between teams, and teams consistently turn up with the same squads. In Germany, no player in the first division (top 8 teams) would think about switching to another top 8 team unless they had just moved to that town and been training with them (the concept of telephone teams does not really exist there). I'm a big fan of keeping the Tour tournaments as large as possible. Restricting the number of teams to 16 or splitting into A & B tours would be seen as even more elitist, a criticism levelled at the Tour all too often. If you want extra facilities like marquees, Paramedics, Sports Physios, decent food, good party, etc. they cost money, and the cost to each team reduces by the number of teams (OK, not completely true, but generally this is true). When you have venues like Swindon and Exeter, why would you want to limit the number of teams there? How many people share lifts with people who suddenly may not qualify for that division? This argument about how fast the sport is growing has been around since the Tour first started (4 years ago) and yet I can only recall one tournament where any team was actually turned away. We have complex waiting lists, black listing for teams that pay late, etc. that have rarely come in to play. Until we have every tour tournament over-subscribed, this should not be an issue. What hasn't been raised yet is the effect on Hammerage with Catch slotting back in in 3rd spot. Sure it shoves Chevron, DSM, Red, etc. down a place and possibly switching their starting pool, but Hammerage would be forced out of the top 8 so cannot get a shot at the bigger clubs and an outside chance of a semi final spot. Perhaps we should look at switching back to the top 16 format for Tour 3 rather than the top 8 format which was planned. Comments from Hammerage should be aired soon to influence Chris. Enough rambling. With the problems facing the venue for Tour 4 (grounds have been sold and ready to be bulldozed), people should really think about what they could do to help Ultimate out by finding a suitable replacement. If nothing turns up, then back plan C comes into play and we're off to sunny Exeter again. Perhaps we should rename the Tour "The South West Tour, with token Northern tournament in Towcester, barely north of Watford". Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | Don't you sometimes miss the days when signature files | could only be three lines long and everything else got trunca From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 18:33:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NHUjq08928 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:30:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NHUhp08908 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:30:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (relay2.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.107.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NHUgV19454 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:30:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.82.136.110] (helo=Farid) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12uIVm-0004le-00; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:30:34 +0100 Message-ID: <00ad01bfc4dc$ea975a20$6e8852c1@home2home> From: "Colin Smith" To: "Kevin Lowe" Cc: "Britdisc" References: <01BFC4DF.B0FD3AC0@KEVIN> Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:32:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If I'm getting my sums right, and seedings for tour three are based on points for both events so far, I think it's Headrush who lose out on the return of Catch to 3rd, not Hammerage. Kevin wrote: > What hasn't been raised yet is the effect on Hammerage with Catch slotting back in in 3rd spot. Sure it shoves Chevron, DSM, Red, etc. down a place and possibly switching their starting pool, but Hammerage would be forced out of the top 8 so cannot get a shot at the bigger clubs and an outside chance of a semi final spot. Perhaps we should look at switching back to the top 16 format for Tour 3 rather than the top 8 format which was planned. Comments from Hammerage should be aired soon to influence Chris. Colin COLIN SMITH Account Executive e-commerce www.08004homes.com colin@08004homes.com Tel: 020 7864 2807 Fax: 020 7864 2809 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 18:48:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NHlBZ12336 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:47:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NHl9p12328 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:47:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NHl4U14729 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:47:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue May 23 10:46:45 2000 To: "Britdisc" Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:46:45 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Venues X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jonathan Pearce wrote: >Personally, believe that the state of the tour is >healthy and works well when it works well, like >Swindon for example. Swindon worked, and everybody seemed to have a good time, but it could have been much improved. And you can quote me on that! We were lucky with the pitches - the moles didn't wreak havoc (they have in the past!), it stopped raining and the grass was about the right length (we've had a mud-bath on several pitches in the past), and for the first time EVER the groundsmen managed to get the pitches the right size. 4 pitch features that seem to be really simple criteria, but astoundingly difficult to control and you're only really going to find out about on the day. Even past experience doesn't always provide useful expectations (anyone else remember the year that Southampton was bone dry 'cos the hot spell hit unexpectedly?) The schedule was really somewhat uncomfortable - trying to let everybody play (especially in the first Tour), with an Open format (where might DSM be otherwise?) and ending up with 33 teams meant that there was a pool of 5. This placed restrictions on playing times across the whole event, and was probably quite hard work for the teams at the bottom of this pool. And the social aspect... we were so lucky it stopped raining! It gave the chance to chill out and watch other games during the day, and was quite conducive to the "beers around the campfire" scenario that ensued in the campsite (which we only just managed to get permission to use) on Saturday night. The pubs down the road looked too small and too busy (though maybe that was 'cos the sun came out) to be able to cope with a mass ingress of ultimate players, especially if we wanted to hang out together. Some venues have the capability to host 32 (or more?)teams. These venues are, unfortunately, few and far between, jealously guarded, or undiscovered. If you've discovered one, and are interested in using it for a Tour event, I'd recommend bidding for the EARLY events - assuming that some kind of segregation does occur, but there's a feeling that we ought to make the first Tour as open as possible (how/where do you seed 4 previously unheard of teams potential?) we'll need as big a venue as possible such an event. If you've got a smaller venue, bid for whenever you like (!) For all bids, it'd be real handy if you have more than one available weekend at your venue (ideally you'd be able to bid for more than one event!)... in the past, as the bids have come in, the Tour has been rearranged slightly to try to even out travel times and attendence and suchlike. Wayne PS: There WAS (Ben, is there still?) a "How to run a tournament" guide on the BUF Website. The AFDA site also has some useful info. The Ultimate Handbook might have... --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com 07970-903420 (mobile) __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 18:51:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NHp3j13212 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:51:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NHp1p13199 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NHouU15044 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 18:50:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue May 23 10:50:38 2000 To: "Britdisc" Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:50:38 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin Smith wrote: >If I'm getting my sums right, and seedings for tour >three are based on points for both events so far Your sums may be correct, but your basic premise is outdated by over a year. Go check the Rules (sent to your team contact) and at http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour2000/ Wayne --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com 07970-903420 (mobile) __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 19:17:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NIGQj18181 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:16:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NIGPp18171 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:16:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f139.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.139]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4NIGOU16746 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:16:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 48789 invoked by uid 0); 23 May 2000 18:16:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000523181617.48788.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.102.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 May 2000 11:16:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.102.3] From: "David Eastman" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:16:17 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >From: Kevin Lowe >To: "'Britdisc'" >Subject: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. >Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 17:52:40 +0100 > >What hasn't been raised yet is the effect on Hammerage with Catch slotting >back in in 3rd spot. Sure it shoves Chevron, DSM, Red, etc. down a place >and possibly switching their starting pool, but Hammerage would be forced >out of the top 8 so cannot get a shot at the bigger clubs and an outside >chance of a semi final spot. Perhaps we should look at switching back to >the top 16 format for Tour 3 rather than the top 8 format which was >planned. Comments from Hammerage should be aired soon to influence Chris. > Given that we gained nothing from Catch 22 dropping out, wheras other teams got a free ride - we wouldn't be greatly amused if Hammerage suffered. David Eastman ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 19:39:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NIc5r22456 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:38:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NIc3p22444 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:38:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from atlas.laworder.com ([209.246.62.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NIc2V29402 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:38:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from ev01007 (194.200.250.141 [194.200.250.141]) by atlas.laworder.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id LFL0RT75; Tue, 23 May 2000 13:23:02 -0500 Message-ID: <00a401bfc4e4$45f31790$6c64a8c0@ev01007> From: "simon" To: "Britdisc" References: Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:25:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Not sure if we or Headrush lose out, but why should either of us? We lost (or had severly hampered) 4 players during this, and I know they lost some also. As it happens, we did not 'benefit' at all from Catch pulling out, given that we didnt have any situation where they would have played us. I can safely speak for the team when I say we respected Catch's decision, however we really would object to being knocked down a place. Simon Hammerage ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Retter To: Britdisc Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. > Colin Smith wrote: > >If I'm getting my sums right, and seedings for tour > >three are based on points for both events so far > > Your sums may be correct, but your basic premise is outdated by over a year. > > Go check the Rules (sent to your team contact) and at > http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour2000/ > > Wayne > > > --- > Wayne Retter > w.retter@bigfoot.com > 07970-903420 (mobile) > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 19:59:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NIw8d26514 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:58:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NIw5p26496 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:58:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from hose.pipex.net (hose.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.58]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NIvpU19678 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:58:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (userag78.uk.uudial.com [62.188.132.164]) by hose.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CD40945CD for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 19:57:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <004701bfc4e9$71754c80$2092bc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: "'Britdisc'" References: <01BFC4DF.B0FD3AC0@KEVIN> Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 20:01:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I promised I wouldn't reply to any emails this week but Kev has made a couple of points that merit response! > I'm sure that Catch had done their maths before deciding not to play on those fields this weekend. [Si] Actually we didn't do our maths - and if you do them (which I did on Sunday night) - you will realise that we have very little room for maneouvre. We stand by the decision anyway - points don't come into it. > One implication of Catch getting no points though is the seeding for Nationals, since this year, you don't get to drop your worst result. If this year's Nationals was qualification for World Clubs, then I'd expect teams to be asking for a different format for Nationals so to avoid a 'pool of death' when one of last year's top three clubs could not make the semis. [Si] The Tour+Nationals used to have a get-out-jail-free card that enabled common sense to override mechanical seeding. Unless that has been deliberatley removed, surely that possibility remains. > What hasn't been raised yet is the effect on Hammerage with Catch slotting back in in 3rd spot. Sure it shoves Chevron, DSM, Red, etc. down a place and possibly switching their starting pool, but Hammerage would be forced out of the top 8 so cannot get a shot at the bigger clubs and an outside chance of a semi final spot. Perhaps we should look at switching back to the top 16 format for Tour 3 rather than the top 8 format which was planned. Comments from Hammerage should be aired soon to influence Chris. [Si] I am against switching to top-16 format. Tour 1 was open-format (correctly); Tour 2 did not go to plan (unfortunately); it would be nice if we could get down to business on the Saturday of T3. Clearly its gutting for the team that came 8th in Towcester (Hammerage) - but there is (and always has been) the possibility that a really strong team from outside the country will enter a Tour event and knock the currently 8th-placed team down to 9th. (Again this is much along the lines of the "get out of jail free card" that I mentioned earlier.) If suitable time and venue can be found I'm quite sure that Catch 22 will be more than happy to put its seeding on the line against any of the displaced teams (no time-wasters please). At least we'd get to play then :) Si not talking for the team From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 20:12:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NJBBx28887 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:11:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NJB9p28880 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:11:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NJB9V02318 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:11:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from p177-harc2-renfrew4.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.250.147] helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 12uJwh-0001KA-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 May 2000 20:02:27 +0100 Message-ID: <003201bfc451$a780e2a0$93faa8c2@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: Subject: Re: Venues Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 01:49:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Convoy wrote > Admittedly, the sport is growing in size, and the need > for leagues is not too distant. But let's stop > getting our knickers in a twist. People are saying > that there is a lack of large suitable venues, but > have people really made a great effort to look? I > think not. There's a whole country out there. I know > for sure that Point Blank have great hopes to organise > a tour event for next year, and we have several > options in mind. I know of several venues as well, though I am yet to find out costs for these venues. > This has been a useful time to kick > people up the backside and make them realise you can't > always rely on other people to do everything. Perhaps > someone should post something on britdisc/BUF that > COMPREHENSIVELY details what organising a tournament > entails, and the incentives for teams/players to do > it. Incentives. Chris/Wayne (Lyout Dreams), why don't you tell us the sort of money you make from hosting a tour event, might that be an incentive? > It's about time we start acting pre-emptively to > ensure the smooth running of a great sport as players, > and stop relying on an overworked and underpaid > BUF/core few. Amen Hope you can all make it to Loughborough next summer:-) Matt Swamp Donkeys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 23 23:26:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4NMNjY02508 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:23:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NMNgp02499 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:23:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from hose.pipex.net (hose.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.58]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4NMNgU01995 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:23:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (userbn09.uk.uudial.com [62.188.145.60]) by hose.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 678954577 for ; Tue, 23 May 2000 23:23:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001901bfc506$33513960$fc5495c1@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: "Britdisc" References: <00a401bfc4e4$45f31790$6c64a8c0@ev01007> Subject: Re: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Some questions spring to mind: > Not sure if we or Headrush lose out, but why should either of us? We lost > (or had severly hampered) 4 players during this, and I know they lost some > also. 1. Why did you lose 4 players? And why (if they did) did Headrush lose players? > As it happens, we did not 'benefit' at all from Catch pulling out, > given that we didnt have any situation where they would have played us. 2. Did anybody *really* benefit from Catch pulling out? Si not talking for the team not managing to stay out of the discussion (its important) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 10:49:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4O9jSM08340 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:45:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4O9jQp08330 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:45:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4O9jQV17697 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:45:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:44:59 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 10:45:27 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E691@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'matthew.lowe'" Subject: RE: Venues Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:45:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Speaking of venues - thank you to all those who offered to find venues for T4, however I have had a bid, and they are going ahead. (For those of you that are not aware - Aston University sold the pitches we had booked for T4, and buldozers move in on July 1st) However I still need a venue for Nationals. In the meantime, where all off to sunny, tropical Leeds, courtesy of the Janitors. Apologies to those of you who were looking forward to going to Brimingham (!). Chris DoC We have found that locations for tournaments is not difficult, instead trying to persuade them that you are serious in trying to hire everything they have for a 'frisbee' tournament is much more difficult. Some venue want payment upfront, which for some of these can be inexcess of 1000 pounds. How much do myself and Wayne make out of a tournament. Well, I'm turning into something of a supermodel here, given the amount of grief (not effort, just grief) I now get to the stage of I'm not doing Swindon for anything less than 800 pounds. The majority of that profit comes from oversubscribing the tournament. We have been stung by small turnouts before, so I always underestimate the number of teams coming to a tournament. This year at Swindon, we budgeted for 24 teams, the fact that 33 turned up made our day (and our money) Chris Layout Dreams > ---------- > From: matthew.lowe[SMTP:matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com] > Sent: 23 May 2000 01:49 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Venues > > Convoy wrote > > > Admittedly, the sport is growing in size, and the need > > for leagues is not too distant. But let's stop > > getting our knickers in a twist. People are saying > > that there is a lack of large suitable venues, but > > have people really made a great effort to look? I > > think not. There's a whole country out there. I know > > for sure that Point Blank have great hopes to organise > > a tour event for next year, and we have several > > options in mind. > > I know of several venues as well, though I am yet to find out costs for > these venues. > > > This has been a useful time to kick > > people up the backside and make them realise you can't > > always rely on other people to do everything. Perhaps > > someone should post something on britdisc/BUF that > > COMPREHENSIVELY details what organising a tournament > > entails, and the incentives for teams/players to do > > it. > > Incentives. Chris/Wayne (Lyout Dreams), why don't you tell us the sort of > money you make from hosting a tour event, might that be an incentive? > > > It's about time we start acting pre-emptively to > > ensure the smooth running of a great sport as players, > > and stop relying on an overworked and underpaid > > BUF/core few. > > Amen > > Hope you can all make it to Loughborough next summer:-) > > Matt > Swamp Donkeys > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 11:58:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OAu8F02419 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:56:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OAu4p02392 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:56:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h016.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.116]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4OAu4U11550 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 11:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 1991 invoked from network); 24 May 2000 11:55:24 +0100 Date: 24 May 2000 11:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <20000524105524.1990.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 24 May 2000 10:55:24 GMT Received: from [147.188.104.132] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 24 May 2000 11:55:24 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Tournaments in the Summer Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me which teams are going to Worlds this Summer from the UK? I am fishing around for numbers for a tournament in Birmingham after the Tour and would like to know what sort of demand there is for non-Worlds teams in case these two prestigious events were to coincide. Let me know if you fancy it. Mal. The Mighty (slip)Disc mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 13:32:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OCUmr01781 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:30:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OCUlp01769 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:30:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h016.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.116]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4OCUkV19805 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 13:30:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 4911 invoked from network); 24 May 2000 13:30:07 +0100 Date: 24 May 2000 13:30:07 +0100 Message-ID: <20000524123007.4910.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 24 May 2000 12:30:07 GMT Received: from [147.188.104.220] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 24 May 2000 13:30:07 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Tournament in the Summer - correction Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Doh! Now what I should have written is: seeing as though it is national sides going to Worlds, are there any teams out there who, not being decimated by all their players being good enough for the National teams, would fancy coming to Birmingham for a tournament in the summer. It may be in August and may coincide with Worlds, but there are probably enough teams out there who could field a decent size squad. Let me know. I mean Summer in Brum is something else! Mal. The Mighty (slip)Disc mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 14:43:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4ODegG22431 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4ODedp22404 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4ODecU01787 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from leafusa.hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with ESMTP id <119041>; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:40:28 -0400 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com (lhr.LON.UK.Ileaf.COM [139.56.70.1]) by leafusa.hq.ileaf.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08251 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 09:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id OAA26528; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:13 +0100 (BST) Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:44 +0100 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEFE9B5D@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Of course Catch can still gain a good place. Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:40:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Colin said: > we really would object to being knocked down a place As I understand it though, there is no special case being made for Catch. Having deemed Catch to have not been present at T2, the other rules about seeding are standard rules (*), aren't they?. * - I have to admit I can't find them in there, but that is what I thought was the case. It might be just a question of how you interpret 7.1, but I had understood there was explicit mention of a team having missed the previous tournament. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 15:54:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OEp3h17775 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:51:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OEp1p17756 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OEp1V17491 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:51:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id PAA01530; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:50:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 24 May 2000 15:51:04 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:50:33 +0100 From: "Alexa Troedson" To: Subject: Cambridge Co-ed - call for women pick-ups Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4OEp1p17760 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc, This is a call to any women players who are currently without a team for the Cambridge Co-ed. Come and play! There are a couple of teams keen to enter but struggling to find sufficient women players. If you'd like to play pick up, please get in touch with me ASAP. The tournament dates are June 3rd-4th. The roster rules are more flexible than for the Open Tour so you could play for different teams in later Co-ed tournaments if you wish. bye for now, Alexa PS. There are 14 teams provisionally entered, and space for two more. Entries close this Friday! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 16:04:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OF2cs21736 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:02:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OF2Kp21584 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:02:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OF2KV21170 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:02:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from enterprise.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.165.252]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 12ucgB-0003cp-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:02:39 +0100 Received: from MMU-SCI-ENTERPRISE/SpoolDir by enterprise.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 24 May 00 16:02:11 gmt Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-SCI-ENTERPRISE (Mercury 1.47); 24 May 00 16:01:48 gmt From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Organization: Manchester Metropolitan University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:01:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ignore this please Message-ID: <782D29594C@enterprise.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks, Sorry if everyone receives this. I'm actually in the process of setting up a daily digest format for Britdisc (more details to come) and needed to test something. Sorry for cluttering your inboxes. Love & Luck, Lozza Night Fever From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 16:19:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OFFm026218 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:15:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OFFjp26193 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:15:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OFFjU16699 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:15:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by mx1.ft.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA21119 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:15:43 +0100 Received: FROM ima1.ft.com BY mx1.ft.com ; Wed May 24 16:15:42 2000 +0100 Received: from Lotus Notes by ima1.ft.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 0004D364; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:16:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:14:23 +0100 Message-ID: <0004D364.N22024@ft.com> From: Paolo.Nistri@ft.com (Paolo Nistri) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Memo Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si Hill wrote: I'm quite sure that Catch 22 will be more than happy to put its seeding on the line against any of the displaced teams (no time-wasters please). shock horror...no takers? P ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster@ft.com * ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 16:35:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OFY5602394 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OFY3p02379 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from server-11.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (pool.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4OFY2V29558 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:34:02 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5211 invoked from network); 24 May 2000 15:33:50 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-11.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 24 May 2000 15:33:50 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 24 May 2000 16:33:49 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B048@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: ignore this please Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:33:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lozza (and anyone else who cares), Why don't we use something like Onelist/Egroups? That way we get the digest functionality built in, along with all the other stuff they'll no doubt add over the months. We could also use the 'poll' facility to run e-votes, especially for once we're an association. Has it been considered? Cheers Pies -----Original Message----- From: Lawrence PAULSON [mailto:L.Paulson@mmu.ac.uk] Sent: 24 May 2000 17:02 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: ignore this please Hi Folks, Sorry if everyone receives this. I'm actually in the process of setting up a daily digest format for Britdisc (more details to come) and needed to test something. Sorry for cluttering your inboxes. Love & Luck, Lozza Night Fever From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 24 18:56:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4OHsiC11853 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from nt012.csv.warwick.ac.uk (nt012 [137.205.40.194]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4OHsgp11841 for ; Wed, 24 May 2000 18:54:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:54:36 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: Mr J A Bridge cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: PR stuff to entice youngsters. In-Reply-To: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B048@baby.kbw.co.uk> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: psuci@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Bears are trying to think of ways to encourage a shedload of naive freshers to take up ultimate next year. Does anyone out there know where we can get some decent PR 'gumf', or videos/posters and stuff like that to sell the sport to their eager little brains? Does anyone have any 'top tips'? Cheers, Rusk. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 04:39:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4P3bPZ15657 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 04:37:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4P3bOp15650 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 04:37:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from indigo.atomki.hu (indigo.atomki.hu [193.6.178.113]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4P3bMV08527 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 04:37:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from had0.inc1.com by indigo.atomki.hu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) id GAA03524; Thu, 25 May 2000 06:29:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 23:18:57 -0500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Subject: Pay Off Your Debt! 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 12:10:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PB4gd08170 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:04:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PB4ep08158 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:04:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4PB4cU05672 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 12:04:39 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA22732 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Thu, 25 May 2000 12:02:47 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 25 May 2000 12:02:47 +0100 Message-Id: <00b101bfc639$5b9992d0$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Nancy Stebbing" , "britdisc" Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:07:03 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nancy / BD, Can anyone tell me who won spirit at Tour 2? Balti BAF 34 -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Stebbing To: britdisc Date: 22 May 2000 11:16 Subject: Tour 2 results >Here are the results of Tour 2 (such as it was...) Thanks to all those who >managed it all with a smile. > >1 UTI >2 Doughboys >3 Chevron Action Flash >4 Deep South Mentality >5 Red >6 Headrush >7 Fluid Druids >8 Hammerage >9 Strange Blue >10 Fusion >11 Blue Arse Flies > >13 Fever >14 Point Blank >15 Mild Mannered Janitors >16 Sharks >17 Angels >18 Skunks >19 Blue Arse Flies Coed >20 Bears >21 Superfly >22 GBW >23 Jedi >24 Swamp Donkeys >25 Mud Culture >26 Yorkie Bar Kids >27 More Mild Mannered Janitors >28 Mowhawks >29 Slipdisc > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 14:45:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PDguV28707 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:42:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PDgrp28690 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:42:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f207.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.207]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4PDglV03970 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 14:42:47 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 95240 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 2000 13:42:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20000525134235.95239.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.102.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 May 2000 06:42:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.102.3] From: "David Eastman" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:42:35 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Better wait for confirmation - Catch may have been given an automatic entry here too. >From: "James Hewitson" >To: "Nancy Stebbing" , "britdisc" > >Subject: Re: Tour 2 results >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:07:03 +0100 > >Nancy / BD, > >Can anyone tell me who won spirit at Tour 2? > >Balti >BAF 34 > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 15:17:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PEBvB09584 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:11:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PEBdp09381 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:11:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f195.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.195]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4PEBcU15764 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:11:38 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 90765 invoked by uid 0); 25 May 2000 14:11:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000525141123.90764.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 148.197.25.37 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 May 2000 07:11:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [148.197.25.37] From: "Lewis Glover" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour 2 results + more Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:11:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Spirit was won by Yorkie Bar Kids Lewis (Sublime Patriots, GB Juniors) PS Due to Tour IV moving, is it still reasonable to assume layout dreams are still organising collection of money. PPS Anyone want pickups for cambridge coed tour, two male and one female? and also anyone who normally mail me from the ultimate world (not many of you) please can you use loopy1019@hotmail.com email address from now on. I may not receive emails sent to other accounts. Cheers >From: "James Hewitson" >To: "Nancy Stebbing" , "britdisc" > >Subject: Re: Tour 2 results >Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:07:03 +0100 > >Nancy / BD, > >Can anyone tell me who won spirit at Tour 2? > >Balti >BAF 34 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Nancy Stebbing >To: britdisc >Date: 22 May 2000 11:16 >Subject: Tour 2 results > > > >Here are the results of Tour 2 (such as it was...) Thanks to all those >who > >managed it all with a smile. > > > >1 UTI > >2 Doughboys > >3 Chevron Action Flash > >4 Deep South Mentality > >5 Red > >6 Headrush > >7 Fluid Druids > >8 Hammerage > >9 Strange Blue > >10 Fusion > >11 Blue Arse Flies > > > >13 Fever > >14 Point Blank > >15 Mild Mannered Janitors > >16 Sharks > >17 Angels > >18 Skunks > >19 Blue Arse Flies Coed > >20 Bears > >21 Superfly > >22 GBW > >23 Jedi > >24 Swamp Donkeys > >25 Mud Culture > >26 Yorkie Bar Kids > >27 More Mild Mannered Janitors > >28 Mowhawks > >29 Slipdisc > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 15:46:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PEi3r21153 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:44:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PEi1p21143 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:44:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from Interleaf.com (fw.interleaf.com [139.56.200.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PEhxU23337 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:44:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from leafusa.hq.ileaf.com ([139.56.8.10]) by fw.Interleaf.com with ESMTP id <119055>; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:43:50 -0400 Received: from lon.uk.ileaf.com (lhr.LON.UK.Ileaf.COM [139.56.70.1]) by leafusa.hq.ileaf.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01245 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 10:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from io.lon.uk.ileaf.com by lon.uk.ileaf.com (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA22188; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:43:43 +0100 (BST) Received: by io.lon.uk.ileaf.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 25 May 2000 15:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: <91B362889FC3D0118F5E00805FCA0BAEFE9B64@io.lon.uk.ileaf.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Tour 2 results Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:44:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Better wait for confirmation - Catch may have been > given an automatic entry here too. Unnecessarily bitter and twisted, methinks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 17:22:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PGLJd20457 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:21:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PGLHp20452 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:21:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4PGLHV05348 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 17:21:17 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA02312 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Thu, 25 May 2000 17:19:22 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 25 May 2000 17:19:22 +0100 Message-Id: <001c01bfc665$9859ed10$be17010a@w046901> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fw: Tour 2 answer and IV question? Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 17:23:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lewis accidently replied this to me rather than to BD - See below for a question regarding T4 : -----Original Message----- From: Lewis Glover To: james.hewitson@zurich.co.uk Date: 25 May 2000 17:02 Subject: Tour 2 answer and IV question? >Spirit was won by Yorkie Bar Kids > >Lewis >Sublime Patriots, Up 4 Grabs and GB Juniors > >PS If Tour IV is being moved, is layout dreams still organising >the event (Are cheques already paid still valid?) and also >are there any teams in the cambridge coed looking for pick ups >(male if afraid) > >Anyone who normally talks to me (not many of you out there) >please email me on > >loopy1019@hotmail.com > >from now on. >(I may not receive emails on other accounts.) > > >>From: "James Hewitson" >>To: "Nancy Stebbing" , "britdisc" >> >>Subject: Re: Tour 2 results >>Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:07:03 +0100 >> >>Nancy / BD, >> >>Can anyone tell me who won spirit at Tour 2? >> >>Balti >>BAF 34 >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Nancy Stebbing >>To: britdisc >>Date: 22 May 2000 11:16 >>Subject: Tour 2 results >> >> >> >Here are the results of Tour 2 (such as it was...) Thanks to all those >>who >> >managed it all with a smile. >> > >> >1 UTI >> >2 Doughboys >> >3 Chevron Action Flash >> >4 Deep South Mentality >> >5 Red >> >6 Headrush >> >7 Fluid Druids >> >8 Hammerage >> >9 Strange Blue >> >10 Fusion >> >11 Blue Arse Flies >> > >> >13 Fever >> >14 Point Blank >> >15 Mild Mannered Janitors >> >16 Sharks >> >17 Angels >> >18 Skunks >> >19 Blue Arse Flies Coed >> >20 Bears >> >21 Superfly >> >22 GBW >> >23 Jedi >> >24 Swamp Donkeys >> >25 Mud Culture >> >26 Yorkie Bar Kids >> >27 More Mild Mannered Janitors >> >28 Mowhawks >> >29 Slipdisc >> > >> > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 20:42:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PJe9C06436 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:40:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PJe7p06424 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:40:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PJdYU01230 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:39:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com ([62.7.156.134]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000525194015.QRRE6169.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com> for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:40:15 +0100 Received: by host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC689.0E0522A0@host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:37:33 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC689.0E0522A0@host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Late Entry Penalties Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:20:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4PJe7p06425 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My apologies if you read all the way to the end of my other mail, but I thought I ought to emphasise the point. Late Entries This years tour has been extremely poor for teams entering late. The U8C has been discussing this in detail as well, and has made a number of decisions: 1. No retrospective late penalties will be issued. If you were late entering a Tour event then consider that your warning. 2. Teams who are late in submitting the BUF deposits will be deducted 5% of the points accrued from that event for each day the deposit is late - i.e. if the deposit is one day late you lose 5%, 20 days late you lose 100%. We have had to resort to this since some teams have failed to pay their deposits for T2 as yet. 3. Teams who are late in submitting their entry to the TD will lose 5% of the points accrued from that event each day. This is ontop of any points lost from late payment of deposit. This excludes any prior arrangement a team may have made with the TD (e.g. GBJuniors who like to pay in cash on the day, as long as they have arranged this in advance with the TD). This has had to be introduced because of the large number of top 8 teams who are late in entering. The tour events are supposed to be assisting these teams and yet they are the teams who are repeatedly late in entering. It was believed that points penalties would provide a greater incentive to the top teams. THESE PENALTIES WILL BE ENFORCED FOR T3 & T4. FOR T3 THE DEADLINE FOR ENTRIES IN JUNE 3RD (For Both BUF deposit, and for Tournament Entry) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu May 25 21:16:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4PKEZn12646 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:14:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PKEXp12640 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:14:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4PKEWU04150 for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:14:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com ([213.120.15.83]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000525201349.ROPR5352.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com> for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:13:49 +0100 Received: by host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC68D.DCB68220@host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 25 May 2000 21:11:58 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC68D.DCB68220@host62-7-152-117.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: T2 & T3 Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 21:11:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4PKEXp12641 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ever since Saturday when Catch 22 'Retired' from Tour 2, the Ultim8 Committee has been discussing a number of aspects of the tournament, and what the implications of the event were. There is also a paragraph on Penalties for late entry for the tour - MAKE SURE YOU READ IT However before that, on behalf of the u8c I would like to thank Nancy and Ian for their efforts. As Wayne said, whilst the tournament did not go to plan, and the pitches were far from ideal, they battled through to provide as much as possible. It is to their credit that they put in the time and effort to at least attempt to provide you with the tournaments to play on. It is noticeable that despite only having four bids to host events last year, since last weekend I've been flooded with 'We have better pitches than that'. I will be holding you all to that in September when we start looking for next year. Retirement of Catch from Tour 2 People are aware that Catch retired from T2 without even playing a game; they were unhappy with playing on the pitches, and elected not to play on them. They informed me as soon as that decision was made. I respected that decision, and cannot force them to play. They later proposed that their games, plus others were played on a football pitch locally. This however was rejected as firstly, it would give an unfair advantage over the other teams that did not play on those pitches, and secondly, since the pitch was only available on Saturday it did not solve the problem for Sunday. Late that day a meeting of the u8c convened at Catch's behest to determine the consequences of their retirement. In that meeting it was decided: 1. That the tournament would continue and count towards tour rankings, and Nationals qualification. The U8C decided that since a large number of games had been completed, and teams had traveled long distances, that canceling the tournament was not an option. Perhaps, if the decision had been made earlier, however at that late stage on Saturday the tournament should continue. 2. That Catch 22 were deemed to have retired from the tournament, and had deemed to be 'not there'. Since they were not there they would be seeded at T3 based on their finishing position in T1. This is standard for a team that had skipped an event and was first applied at Southampton last year after Edinburgh. This decision was taken from a number of options open to us, including the option of assuming that Catch lost all their games and finished 12th. This was felt to be unrealistic and unreasonable. It is clear that Catch 22 are a top 4/5 side. 3. That Catch's demand for a refund was not something that was necessary to be decided there and then, and that it was something that the committees could return to. The implications to this decision are twofold: 1. That Catch have effectively been penalised in the region of 200 points in the tour. The U8C have since decided that this is a consequence of Catch's retirement. This means that Catch may find it difficult to qualify for Nationals, the committee has not yet decided on the implications of this. Discussions are still ongoing. 2. That when Catch are introduced into the seedings for Tour 3 that all the teams below would be dropped down a position. Again this is as per the rules for a teams non-attendance, and was first introduced in T4 last year. This rule is also liable to be invoked if a foreign team were to enter a tour event. It is fair to say that the consequences of this decision was not clearly disseminated to the rest of the teams who may have been affected. Especially to the teams playing the 7/8 playoff. For this I take responsibility, since I was aware of the implications, nor was I playing at the time. I duly apologise. Tour Points The committee has decided that the points will be distributed in order as per a 28 team format with teams below 12 being moved up a slot. Since the scale for the tour is a non-linear progression, this means that the majority of teams would get more points than if we ignored the 12 slot and used 29 teams for the calculations. Schedule for T3 The scheduling, as mentioned, is based on the T2 finishing positions with non attending teams inserted based on their previous attendance. e.g. Catch should be seeded 2nd based on their position at T1. However since this would displace Doughboy, a comparison between Catch and Dough is made, and since Dough finished higher at the last tour event they both attended (not the game - the event) then Doughboy hold second place Catch are seeded 3rd, and displace the rest downwards. Since 12 slot was left free at the end of T2 all teams below are seeded where they finished. Unless we get any other teams entering who were not at T2. After discussion the U8C has decided to stick with a standard tour schedule through out the event. We are aware that this appears to penalise Hammerage. An option proposed and considered was the option of resorting T3 to a top 16 format. This, it was decided, penalises almost all the other teams, by removing the quality of game they deserve, or by reducing the chances of the 13-16 teams to improve and climb up. This decision was based upon past performances of Hammerage (and first touch before them), and despite a credible 6th position at T1 this year, we felt it was unlikely that Hammerage had a reasonable chance of making it into the top 4. Again, I am aware that any argument I put here is unlikely to convince the Hammerage players that the right decision has been made. However, having already given an assurance to Catch that they would be seeded based on their T1 position, the U8C committee feel that this is the fairest decision for as many teams in the top 16, not just the top 8. It will not surprise me if people wish to complain about this decision. You may of course do so. If you want to complain do it to me - cjhughes@talk21.com Please note that whilst you may be severely upset at this decision, abusive emails will not be entertained. Mails may be forwarded to the BUF, the U8C, and Britdisc if I feel it is appropriate. Late Entries This years tour has been extremely poor for teams entering late. The U8C has been discussing this in detail as well, and has made a number of decisions: 1. No retrospective late penalties will be issued. If you were late entering a Tour event then consider that your warning. 2. Teams who are late in submitting the BUF deposits will be deducted 5% of the points accrued from that event for each day the deposit is late - i.e. if the deposit is one day late you lose 5%, 20 days late you lose 100%. We have had to resort to this since some teams have failed to pay their deposits for T2 as yet. 3. Teams who are late in submitting their entry to the TD will lose 5% of the points accrued from that event each day. This is ontop of any points lost from late payment of deposit. This excludes any prior arrangement a team may have made with the TD (e.g. GBJuniors who like to pay in cash on the day, as long as they have arranged this in advance with the TD). This has had to be introduced because of the large number of top 8 teams who are late in entering. The tour events are supposed to be assisting these teams and yet they are the teams who are repeatedly late in entering. It was believed that points penalties would provide a greater incentive to the top teams. THESE PENALTIES WILL BE ENFORCED FOR T3 & T4. I will be confirming the dates for entry in the very near future, once I get the information hand. Chris Hughes DoC, on behalf of the Ultim8 committee; Andy Cotgreave, Dora Kemp, Andy 'Norm' Tucker, Wayne Retter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 04:49:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4Q3kdh19440 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 04:46:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q3kbp19431 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 04:46:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.san.rr.com (mta@smtp1.san.rr.com [24.25.195.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q3kYV10043 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 04:46:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultilinks.com ([204.210.5.243]) by smtp1.san.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 25 May 2000 20:46:37 -0700 Message-ID: <392DF29C.5C47153E@ultilinks.com> Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 20:42:20 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: [Ultilinks] A few things Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ciao. Just a quick note to inform you on a few things on Ultilinks that you might find interesting: -with new partnership with playulty.com, Ultilinks will GIVE AWAY an educational ultimate video every month to people trying to spread the ultimate word. -Tony Leonardo and Paul Leow will do a complete coverage of the UPA College Nationals this week-end in Boise, Idaho. Interviews, write-ups, pictures, results. Similar to our Worlds99 coverage. -A comic strip by foxtrot (www.foxtrot.com) appeared in newspapers here this week, and I scanned it in and put it on the front page of ultilinks for your enjoyment. -The free tournament home page creation system is being used more and more thanks to advertising by the BUF and Thomas Griesbaum. Give it a try, it really makes your life as a tournament director easier. -Please take a minute to check if your link is updated. I have now more than 900 links, and people move their pages around all the time! ;) I guess that's it for now. http://www.ultilinks.com/ Soon we'll organize some contests with Gaia prizes. Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for your Paganello pictures! Still bothering once in a while, Peldi PS.The excellent http://www.whatisultimate.com/ is back online! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 08:52:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4Q7oOe12647 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:50:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q7oNp12638 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:50:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4Q7oMU12213 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 08:50:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 10176 invoked from network); 26 May 2000 07:50:21 -0000 Received: from userai48.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.133.78) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 26 May 2000 07:50:21 -0000 Message-ID: <003801bfc6e7$b3d6b140$eb85bc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: References: <20000525134235.95239.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:54:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk David Eastman wrote: > Better wait for confirmation - Catch may have been given an automatic entry > here too. > > > > >Can anyone tell me who won spirit at Tour 2? > > > >Balti > >BAF 34 > > That was a question about Tour 2. Where have you been? We didn't play at Tour 2. I'm afraid I can't actually remember who you are, but I think you must play for Hammerage (I guess that the one or two games that we get each year are pretty short). For what its worth I have a preference for the seeding being based on a cumulative mechanism rather than the last tournament - which would have left you in the top 8 at the next tournament. I'm sorry that you won't be in our pool at T3. Si - 22 still not talking for the team ps - incidentally did we get any spirit votes at T2? Or maybe some people didn't like what we did and tried to give us a negative spirit vote? (Although I don't think such a thing really exists.) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 09:10:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4Q89uH16467 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:09:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q89sp16459 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:09:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.organic.com (mx1.organic.com [207.76.139.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q89rV00095 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:09:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from fwd1-sf.organic.com (fwd1-sf [207.76.139.9]) by mx1.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA20820; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1-sf.organic.com (po1-sf.organic.com [192.168.5.47]) by fwd1-sf.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01347; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inside.organic (inside.organic.com [192.168.5.80]) by po1-sf.organic.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA21745; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simonlaptop by inside.organic (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA03533; Fri, 26 May 2000 01:09:30 -0700 Message-ID: <000401bfc6e9$be527da0$a088a8c0@organic.com> From: "simon" To: "Si and/or Jack" , References: <20000525134235.95239.qmail@hotmail.com> <003801bfc6e7$b3d6b140$eb85bc3e@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:09:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk this is boring, and in danger of descending into playground bickering. I reiterate again that, to a man we backed the decision of Catch to pull out of T2. Our argument isnt with Catch, however given that we finished 8th out of merit and not due to any free wins where we would have played them you can understand how we feel. It leaves us with the opinion that we also should have withdrawn, and therefore kept 6th position for T3... Simon speaking for my team. ----- Original Message ----- From: Si and/or Jack To: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Tour 2 results > David Eastman wrote: > > Better wait for confirmation - Catch may have been given an automatic > entry > > here too. > > > > > > > >Can anyone tell me who won spirit at Tour 2? > > > > > >Balti > > >BAF 34 > > > > > That was a question about Tour 2. Where have you been? We didn't play at > Tour 2. > > I'm afraid I can't actually remember who you are, but I think you must play > for Hammerage (I guess that the one or two games that we get each year are > pretty short). For what its worth I have a preference for the seeding being > based on a cumulative mechanism rather than the last tournament - which > would have left you in the top 8 at the next tournament. I'm sorry that you > won't be in our pool at T3. > > Si - 22 > > still not talking for the team > > ps - incidentally did we get any spirit votes at T2? Or maybe some people > didn't like what we did and tried to give us a negative spirit vote? > (Although I don't think such a thing really exists.) > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 10:32:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4Q9Uot06486 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q9Ulp06468 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from fizzle.bomb.co.uk (root@fizzle.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q9UWU28140 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from pacino (ip190.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.190]) by fizzle.bomb.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e4Q9URf28368; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:30:27 +0100 Message-Id: <200005260930.e4Q9URf28368@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@nuclear.bomb.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:29:53 +0100 To: From: Barry Subject: www.whatisultimate.com Cc: EuroDisc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Announcing the (re)launch of the site that answers that question we get asked most often: What is Ultimate? My apologies for the site not being available recently. Check it out: www.whatisultimate.com Barry PS Volunteers to continue with the translation of the site (any language) greatly appreciated. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 10:57:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4Q9qr412899 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:52:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q9qop12884 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:52:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from eagle.eng.warwick.ac.uk (eagle [137.205.144.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4Q9qoU01309 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:52:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from pces624 (pces624 [137.205.146.112]) by eagle.eng.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13825 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:52:41 +0100 (BST) From: "Andrew Tucker" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:52:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Reply-to: Andrew.Tucker@warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <392E5766.13693.5212E96@localhost> In-reply-to: <000401bfc6e9$be527da0$a088a8c0@organic.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On 26 May 2000, at 9:09, simon wrote: > It leaves us with the opinion that > we also should have withdrawn, and therefore kept 6th position for > T3... You could have done, but remember you'd then have 170 less tour points. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 14:04:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QD1Ei11109 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:01:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QD1Cp11094 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:01:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from wsa.wsatkins.co.uk (webshield.wsatkins.co.uk [193.117.23.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QD0bV21479 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 14:00:39 +0100 (BST) Received: by wsa.wsatkins.co.uk with SMTP from isgas04.wsatkins.co.uk (webshield.wsatkins.co.uk [10.0.0.3]) id OAA28151 for (3.2.3/3.2); Fri, 26 May 2000 14:04:20 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM ldn-post.wsatkins.co.uk BY isgas04.wsatkins.co.uk ; Fri May 26 13:58:46 2000 +0100 Received: by ldn-post with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 13:59:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87BA8D7748A8D111A18700A0C94C7EB8024EA217@ldn-post> From: WCRM08 To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Tour 2 !? Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 13:57:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4QD1Dp11095 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apparently ultimate as we know it, played on a flat rectangular pitch of cut grass, is too boring and predictable. Only this could explain the events of last weekend when an official BUF-sanctioned event was hosted on a site that would have been better suited for a weekend of orienteering. In a statement tournament organiser VP Noncing Stropbaärk said, "The problem is that if the pitches are always the same then the players can cheat by planning in advance what they are going to do in the game itself. Some teams even meet and set up mock pitches of their own and practice on them in secret ahead of the tournament. "It is in order to stamp out precisely this kind of bad-spirited win-at-all-costs tendency that we on the BUF brought in a few counter-measures this weekend. Features such as wobbly/curving/non-existent sidelines, random up/downhill gradients, knee-high grass and not always being able to see the opposing endzone when you start the point - all mean that players have to think on their feet and use their initiative. Or a compass." Asked whether it was also part of the plan to situate the nearest toilets over a half-mile round trip from the 'pitches' and to fail to supply any vegetarian food during the day, nor any food at all in the evening Ms. Strepthraät snapped back, "There's a whiner element in every community - I'd rather focus on the achievements of the last weekend. "By making sure that every pitch was deeply rutted and pitted along with rows of hidden cracks and a random distribution of holes and depressions as well as rocks, flints and broken glass we took a huge step towards breaking up the monotonous flow of the game that puts so may potential viewers off. The more tedious cutting and passing elements of the sport were balanced against plenty of action as players regularly went down clutching torn ankle ligaments, twisted knees, concussions and camera-friendly heavily-bleeding open wounds. "Let's face it, we know what's best for the sport - the only way forward for ultimate is to attract as much sponsorship and TV coverage as possible because without that, those who administer the game will never feel as important as we deserve to. If we can move on from the gains of last weekend to rename the top teams, kick everyone else out of the sport and get some town centre disturbances going before the big games then we will have amply repaid you the value of your BUF subscription fee." Ms Stripaäkht refused to comment on rumours that the Nationals Tournament was to be replaced by a one-match "BUFBowl I" between the Catch Crusaders and the Duffboy Disembowellers. Sorry, I couldn't resist. The food was over priced and poor quality, I understand the bar ran out of beer and shut early and the prizes were a disgrace, especially spirit. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 15:08:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QE5JF01643 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:05:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QE5Ap01611 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:05:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from congo.cherwell.com (mailhost.cherwell.com [193.82.249.202]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QE4xV06136 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:05:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.232]) by congo.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61953U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:04:46 +0100 Message-ID: <003901bfc71b$59421290$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> Reply-To: "Paul Meaney" From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: Fw: Tour 2 !? Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:04:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To whoever wrote this email, while I share your concerns over QA of tournaments, I feel that such an anonymous diatribe like this will do little to advance the cause of people who, like myself, are concerned that the Ultimate Community of britain are no longer getting value for money at tournaments. In future could you please have the guts to put your name against such a mail. In response to this, while I am sure Ian and Nancy struggled to put on a good show, I would like to ask the U8C to publicly confirm that the pitches were NOT in such an atrocious state when the organisers booked the venue. In fact can the U8C committee confirm that the surface was made uneven, the ground filled with rocks and the grass not cut in the period between booking the venue and holding the tournament. I cannot see two people who have played ultimate for years looking at shoddy, uneven surfaces and going "yep, this'll be fine for a Tour Event". If this is not the case, the matter will need to be discussed further. Paul ps - the argument 'if you can do better do it yourself' is irrelevant to the above point. One has nothing to do with the other. If you decide to run a tournement you have an obligation to those paying entry fees and transport to get it right. --- --- Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: http://www.cherwell.com --- --- Apparently ultimate as we know it, played on a flat rectangular pitch of cut grass, is too boring and predictable. Only this could explain the events of last weekend when an official BUF-sanctioned event was hosted on a site that would have been better suited for a weekend of orienteering. In a statement tournament organiser VP Noncing Stropbaärk said, "The problem is that if the pitches are always the same then the players can cheat by planning in advance what they are going to do in the game itself. Some teams even meet and set up mock pitches of their own and practice on them in secret ahead of the tournament. "It is in order to stamp out precisely this kind of bad-spirited win-at-all-costs tendency that we on the BUF brought in a few counter-measures this weekend. Features such as wobbly/curving/non-existent sidelines, random up/downhill gradients, knee-high grass and not always being able to see the opposing endzone when you start the point - all mean that players have to think on their feet and use their initiative. Or a compass." Asked whether it was also part of the plan to situate the nearest toilets over a half-mile round trip from the 'pitches' and to fail to supply any vegetarian food during the day, nor any food at all in the evening Ms. Strepthraät snapped back, "There's a whiner element in every community - I'd rather focus on the achievements of the last weekend. "By making sure that every pitch was deeply rutted and pitted along with rows of hidden cracks and a random distribution of holes and depressions as well as rocks, flints and broken glass we took a huge step towards breaking up the monotonous flow of the game that puts so may potential viewers off. The more tedious cutting and passing elements of the sport were balanced against plenty of action as players regularly went down clutching torn ankle ligaments, twisted knees, concussions and camera-friendly heavily-bleeding open wounds. "Let's face it, we know what's best for the sport - the only way forward for ultimate is to attract as much sponsorship and TV coverage as possible because without that, those who administer the game will never feel as important as we deserve to. If we can move on from the gains of last weekend to rename the top teams, kick everyone else out of the sport and get some town centre disturbances going before the big games then we will have amply repaid you the value of your BUF subscription fee." Ms Stripaäkht refused to comment on rumours that the Nationals Tournament was to be replaced by a one-match "BUFBowl I" between the Catch Crusaders and the Duffboy Disembowellers. Sorry, I couldn't resist. The food was over priced and poor quality, I understand the bar ran out of beer and shut early and the prizes were a disgrace, especially spirit. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 15:28:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QEQxQ08648 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QEQvp08638 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QEQqU24368 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vL4Y-0004pM-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:46 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vL4a-0004ea-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:48 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:45 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE02716557@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: ok!! Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:26:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk lo all! just a quick review of what we all know: 1) tour 2 was bad (I enjoyed it anyways) 2) hammerage are annoyed at being out of the top 8 (but will get back in anyways) 3) tour 3 is gonna be fun 4) I don't wanna hear peoples individual gripes and moans!! now, I want the next mails on britdisc to be nice ones about me, and useful info about stuff, and people needing help. see y'all laters tom NB:: Sarcasm is often used in BD mails, if you have trouble recognising it, then please ask me, and I will help ya out. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 15:37:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QEZip11170 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:35:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QEZfp11159 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:35:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from gateway1.sema.co.uk (gateway1.sema.co.uk [194.216.60.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QEZaU26111 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:35:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from lonns01.sema.co.uk ([157.203.40.61]) by gateway1.sema.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19755 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:32:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from lones1.sema.co.uk (unverified) by lonns01.sema.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:39:50 +0100 Received: by lones1.sema.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 15:41:28 +0100 Message-Id: From: "MUDGE, Damian" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 !? Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:41:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul you beat me to it you b*****d! I was going to congratualte the author on such a witty article and offer to buy them a couple of pints at the next tournament I attend, as a reward, if they'd care to identify themselves. Then I saw this > I understand the bar ran out of beer and shut early and promptly realised that if they weren't in the bar, beer probably wouldn't interest them. Instead I'll donate it to the Mr. Men on the author's behalf - I know they'll appreciate it :-) damo Druids ___________________________________________________________________________ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Sema Group. 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If you have received this email in error please notify the Sema Group Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. ___________________________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 16:55:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QFsKA04766 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:54:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QFsIp04754 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:54:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from eagle.eng.warwick.ac.uk (eagle [137.205.144.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QFsHU11367 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:54:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from pces624 (pces624 [137.205.146.112]) by eagle.eng.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06974 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:54:08 +0100 (BST) From: "Andrew Tucker" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:51:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Updated Tour Results Reply-to: Andrew.Tucker@warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <392EABA9.30202.66A5F52@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here's a summary of the official Tour results so far. Wayne will be updating the Tour web site this weekend. http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ Sorry that it's taken so long.... Norm. TOUR 1 - Swindon POSITION TEAM POINTS 1 Doughboy 250 2 Catch 22 230 3 Deep South Mentality 222 4 Chevron Action Flash 210 5 UTI 205 6 Hammerage 190 7 Fluid Druids 181 8 Blue Arse Flies 170 9 Red 160 10 Headrush 150 11 Ro-Sham-Bo 141 12 Strange Blue 130 13 Fusion 125 14 Point Blank 110 15 Fever 101 16 Sharks 90 17 Skunks 81 18 Superfly 75 19 Mild Mannered Janitors71 20 GB Juniors 66 21 More M M Janitors 61 22 Blue Arse Flies CoEd 56 23 Slipdisc 52 24 Swamp Donkeys 47 25 Hazefly 42 26 Mud Culture 38 27 Jedi 33 28 Angels 28 29 GB Women 24 30 Yorkie Bar Kids 19 31 Sheffield Cardiff Alliance14 32 Bears 9 33 Mohawks 5 TOUR 2 - Towcester (Bracketed positions give the actual tournament finishing position) POSITION TEAM POINTS 1 UTI 250 2 Doughboy 230 3 Chevron Action Flash 222 4 Deep South Mentality 210 5 Red 205 6 Headrush 190 7 Fluid Druids 181 8 Hammerage 170 9 Strange Blue 160 10 Fusion 150 11 Blue Arse Flies 141+11 12 (13) Fever 130 13 (14) Point Blank 125 14 (15) Mild Mannered Janitors 110 15 (16) Sharks 101 16 (17) Angels 90 17 (18) Skunks 81 18 (19) Blue Arse Flies Coed 73 19 (20) Bears 67 20 (21) Superfly 60 21 (22) GB Women 53 22 (23) Jedi 47 23 (24) Swamp Donkeys 40 24 (25) Mud Culture 33 25 (26) Yorkie Bar Kids 27 26 (27) More M M Janitors 20 27 (28) Mowhawks 13 28 (29) Slipdisc 7 OVERALL POSITIONS AFTER TOURS 1 & 2 1 Doughboy 250 + 230 = 480 2 UTI 205 + 250 = 455 3= Chevron Action Flash 210 + 222 = 432 3= Deep South Mentality 222 + 210 = 432 5 Red 160 + 205 = 365 6 Fluid Druids 181 + 181 = 362 7 Hammerage 190 + 170 = 360 8 Headrush 150 + 190 = 340 9 Blue Arse Flies 170 + 141 = 311 10 Strange Blue 130 + 160 = 290 11 Fusion 125 + 150 = 275 12 Point Blank 110 + 125 = 235 13 Fever 101 + 130 = 231 14 Catch 22 230 + 0 = 230 15 Sharks 90 + 101 = 191 16 Mild Mannered Janitors71 + 110 = 181 17 Skunks 81 + 81 = 162 18 Ro-Sham-Bo 141 + 0 = 141 19 Superfly 75 + 60 = 135 20 Blue Arse Flies CoEd 56 + 73 = 129 21 Angels 28 + 90 = 118 22 Swamp Donkeys 47 + 40 = 87 23 More M M Janitors 61 + 20 = 81 24 Jedi 33 + 47 = 80 25 GB Women 24 + 53 = 77 26 Bears 9 + 67 = 76 27 Mud Culture 38 + 33 = 71 28 GB Juniors 66 + 0 = 66 29 Slipdisc 52 + 7 = 59 30 Yorkie Bar Kids 19 + 27 = 46 31 Hazefly 42 + 0 = 42 32 Mohawks 5 + 13 = 18 33 Sheffield Cardiff Alliance14 + 0 = 14 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 16:58:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QFvjO05603 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:57:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QFvhp05581 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:57:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from congo.cherwell.com (mailhost.cherwell.com [193.82.249.202]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QFvXV00991 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:57:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.232]) by congo.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61953U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:57:23 +0100 Message-ID: <006e01bfc72b$14c10b20$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> Reply-To: "Paul Meaney" From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE02716557@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> Subject: Re: ok!! Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:57:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > 4) I don't wanna hear peoples individual gripes and moans!! > tom, there is a difference between a gripe and raising a legitimate concern about the quality of tournaments and the value for money the Ultimate players of this country should expect. I am simply asking a question based on (a) common sense (b) having run numerous tournaments (c) what I expect from a tournament. Maybe my expectations are high, but I would be interested to know what minimum standards the U8C have set for tournaments and where I can obtain a copy of the document. Again, I am not griping, just trying to promote a resonable debate on this important subject. Or would you prefer that we bury our heads in the sand and accept what we are given without question? > NB:: Sarcasm is often used in BD mails, if you have trouble recognising it, > then please ask me, and I will help ya out. agreed, but when used in the context of arguing an important point it becomes detrimental. Paul ps - I saw this great carpark. nice even surface, but a bit gravelly. I was thinking about this for a tournament next year. After all, ultimate began in a car park. It's called the 'Back to Basics' tournament --- --- Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: http://www.cherwell.com --- --- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 17:07:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QG5dj07698 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:05:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QG5bp07683 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:05:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from latimer.mail.easynet.net (latimer.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QG5SV02922 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:05:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (tnt-18-252.easynet.co.uk [212.134.224.252]) by latimer.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B92EE56551 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:00:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <002201bfc72a$c3112da0$fce086d4@default> Reply-To: "Benjamin Whenlock" From: "Benjamin Whenlock" To: Subject: Please stop Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:50:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We all accept the fact the pitches weren't exactly great this weekend however I personally had a fantastic time. To fit that many teams into one venue is always going to be difficult. I found the venue really interesting and the weekend organised well. I know of at least one football conference side team that plays on a less than adequate pitch so please please please can we stop complaining and start writing productive emails If you have no solutions don't complain I am part of an Ultimate team that may fold next year if we cant get any freshers to join so please use Britdisc as a way help clubs that need to promote the sport!!! All the best Ben - Bradford Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 17:22:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QGLG711647 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:21:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QGLEp11636 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:21:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1610.mail.yahoo.com (web1610.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.164]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4QGLDU14922 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:21:13 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22337 invoked by uid 60001); 26 May 2000 16:21:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20000526162110.22336.qmail@web1610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.63.177.201] by web1610.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:21:09 PDT Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Simon=20Arbuckle?= Subject: Fwd: Fw: Tour 2 !? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hear, hear! While I was not at the tour to see the state of the facilities, the recent discussions on Britdisc have left me in little doubt as to what happened. I am sure that there is nobody within UK ultimate that wishes such a situation to occur again, none more so than the people that sweat blood and tears to get a tournament together. Surely then, the topic of conversation must turn to how to prevent these problems recurring rather than continually bitching about past problems? Simon Arbuckle. Currently incapacitated, permanently Mud Culture. --- Paul Meaney wrote: > Reply-to: "Paul Meaney" > From: "Paul Meaney" > To: > Subject: Fw: Tour 2 !? > Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 15:04:46 +0100 > > > > To whoever wrote this email, > > > while I share your concerns over QA of > tournaments, I feel that > such > an anonymous diatribe like this will do little to > advance the cause of > people who, > like myself, are concerned that the Ultimate > Community of britain are no > longer getting value for money at tournaments. > > > In future could you please have the guts to put > your name against such > a > mail. > > > In response to this, while I am sure Ian and > Nancy struggled to put on > a > good show, I would like to ask the U8C to publicly > confirm that the pitches > were NOT in such an atrocious state when the > organisers booked the venue. > In > fact can the U8C committee confirm that the surface > was made uneven, the > ground filled with rocks and the grass not cut in > the period between > booking > the venue and holding the tournament. > > I cannot see two people who have played > ultimate for years looking at > shoddy, uneven surfaces and going "yep, this'll be > fine for a Tour Event". > > If this is not the case, the matter will need > to be discussed further. > > > Paul > > > ps - the argument 'if you can do better do it > yourself' is irrelevant > to > the above point. One has nothing to do with the > other. If you decide to run > a tournement you have an obligation to those paying > entry fees and transport > to get it right. > > > > --- > --- > Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: > p.meaney@cherwell.com > Java Developer | Phone: +44 > (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 > FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 > (0)1865 784801 > Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: > http://www.cherwell.com > --- > --- > > > Apparently ultimate as we know it, played on a flat > rectangular pitch of cut > grass, is too boring and predictable. > > Only this could explain the events of last weekend > when an official > BUF-sanctioned event was hosted on a site that would > have been better suited > for a weekend of orienteering. > > In a statement tournament organiser VP Noncing > Stropbaärk said, "The problem > is that if the pitches are always the same then the > players can cheat by > planning in advance what they are going to do in the > game itself. Some > teams even meet and set up mock pitches of their own > and practice on them in > secret ahead of the tournament. > > "It is in order to stamp out precisely this kind of > bad-spirited > win-at-all-costs tendency that we on the BUF brought > in a few > counter-measures this weekend. Features such as > wobbly/curving/non-existent > sidelines, random up/downhill gradients, knee-high > grass and not always > being able to see the opposing endzone when you > start the point - all mean > that players have to think on their feet and use > their initiative. Or a > compass." > > Asked whether it was also part of the plan to > situate the nearest toilets > over a half-mile round trip from the 'pitches' and > to fail to supply any > vegetarian food during the day, nor any food at all > in the evening Ms. > Strepthraät snapped back, "There's a whiner element > in every community - I'd > rather focus on the achievements of the last > weekend. > > "By making sure that every pitch was deeply rutted > and pitted along with > rows of hidden cracks and a random distribution of > holes and depressions as > well as rocks, flints and broken glass we took a > huge step towards breaking > up the monotonous flow of the game that puts so may > potential viewers off. > The more tedious cutting and passing elements of the > sport were balanced > against plenty of action as players regularly went > down clutching torn ankle > ligaments, twisted knees, concussions and > camera-friendly heavily-bleeding > open wounds. > > "Let's face it, we know what's best for the sport - > the only way forward for > ultimate is to attract as much sponsorship and TV > coverage as possible > because without that, those who administer the game > will never feel as > important as we deserve to. If we can move on from > the gains of last > weekend to rename the top teams, kick everyone else > out of the sport and get > some town centre disturbances going before the big > games then we will have > amply repaid you the value of your BUF subscription > fee." > > Ms Stripaäkht refused to comment on rumours that the > Nationals Tournament > was to be replaced by a one-match "BUFBowl I" > between the Catch Crusaders > and the Duffboy Disembowellers. > > > Sorry, I couldn't resist. The food was over priced > and poor quality, I > understand the bar ran out of beer and shut early > and the prizes were a > disgrace, especially spirit. > > ===== Simon Arbuckle PgDip (FBOM) Scottish Agricultural College Aberdeen Email: simonarbuckle@yahoo.com Tel: 01224 711009 ext1328 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 17:41:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QGeRN15737 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:40:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QGeOp15725 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:40:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from congo.cherwell.com (mailhost.cherwell.com [193.82.249.202]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QGeNV10112 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:40:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.232]) by congo.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61953U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:40:12 +0100 Message-ID: <00a101bfc731$1064ce30$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> Reply-To: "Paul Meaney" From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: <002201bfc72a$c3112da0$fce086d4@default> Subject: Re: Please stop (RANT INCLUDED!!!) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:40:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > than adequate pitch so please please please can we stop complaining and > start writing productive emails I am aksing for a reasoned debate on the subject. the last I heard, in a democracy, resoned intelligent debate is a way to move things forward. I am simply asking what kind of quality control the u8c implements. > If you have no solutions don't complain ah! the exuberance of youth! > I am part of an Ultimate team that may fold next year if we cant get any > freshers to join > so please use Britdisc as a way help clubs that need to promote the sport!!! Britdisc is a forum for discussion of all aspects of Disc sports. Please feel free to start a seperate thread. There are hundreds of people (myself included) who have been part of the successful running of University clubs. Start by asking. In the meantime, my concern still stands. If you want to know what I want to see - fine. We get enough 'lets penalise teams blah blah blah..." How about penalising TD's for not delivering the goods. eg - crap pitches - knock £10 quid off the entry fee no food available - knock off a fiver cold showers - knock off a fiver No showers - knock off a tenner no party -knock off a fiver I am sick and tired of going to tournaments, having something cock up because the TD didn't make a simple phone call to ensure that a service was guaranteed, we don't get what we pay for, but the TD''s still end up cleaning up and we STILL end up paying 80/ 90/ 100 quid for less than brilliant service. Bloody hell, can you imagine going to Rotterdam and having the bar shut! there'd be uproar! The AirBreakers had the right idea - they couldn't do it 100% so than rather compromise, they cancelled! The powers that be are all for penalising teams for not showing. How about penalising TD's for NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE!!! You will then argue 'but then no- one will organise a tournament' maybe - but those who DO will make damn sure they get it RIGHT!!! rant over. Paul --- --- Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: http://www.cherwell.com --- --- > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 17:55:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QGt0h18869 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:55:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QGsxp18858 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:54:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QGswg07185 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:54:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 26 May 100 17:52:36 GMT+0001 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 26 May 100 17:52:33 GMT+0001 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 17:52:30 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: complaints about complaints X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc, I would like to complain about the number of complaints about complaints. I have been playing on far more uneven and treacherous ground recently, just take a look at the links below. http://obmegazine.com/resultsmull2000photos1.htm http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf/html/hole_7_8.html We love it!!!! Yours compoundingly, Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 17:55:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QGsfW18802 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:54:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QGsep18794 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:54:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f78.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.78]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4QGsYV12156 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 17:54:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 23948 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 2000 16:54:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000526165427.23947.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.11.50.209 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 May 2000 09:54:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.11.50.209] From: "Simon Barry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour 2 Results Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:54:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Wed 24 May >>Si Hill wrote: >>I'm quite sure that Catch 22 will be >>more than happy to put its seeding on the line against any of the >>displaced >>teams (no time-wasters please). >shock horror...no takers? >P >Fri 26 May >Si Hill wrote: >That was a question about Tour 2. Where have you been? We didn't play at >Tour 2. >I'm afraid I can't actually remember who you are, but I think you must play >for Hammerage (I guess that the one or two games that we get each year are >pretty short). The sympathy I had for Catch 22 after the weekend has completely evaporated in the face of this witless and uncalled-for posturing. If you really want to put your seeding on the line (which you clearly don't) then why don't you start T3 at 12th and work your way back up. shock horror...no takers? Si B ps - I don't know you either and no, I don't play for Hammerage. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 18:18:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QHGtR23205 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QHGrp23191 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QHGgV15715 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vNiz-0000in-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:41 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vNj2-0001uN-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:44 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:40 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE0271656B@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: hmm Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:16:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hmmm, paul my good man: if you had been reading britdisc, you would have noticed that everyone already knows everything you want to say, which makes your mail redundant. as for sarcasm, I was not saying that anyone should use it, but was making a comment about people who reply to sarcasm thinking its not what it is, if you get what I mean. (eg, someones remark about catch getting spirit, warrented the reply "they weren't there"). anyways, I got some vids to watch, and some pizza to eat. laters tom ps I have a complaint to make about dereks complaint about complaints, the pictures were to small!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 18:35:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QHY2I26055 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:34:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QHY0p26047 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QHY0U22187 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:34:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Fri, 26 May 2000 18:33:48 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15835; Fri, 26 May 00 18:33:48 BST Message-Id: <10005261733.AA15835@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 18:33:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: complaints about complaints In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I got 404 errors on both of these webpages, clearly something needs to be done about the quality of the complaints regarding complaints concerning the number of complaints. I blame Chris Hughes, everything's always his fault. Pete > Dear Britdisc, > > I would like to complain about the number of complaints about > complaints. > > I have been playing on far more uneven and treacherous ground > recently, just take a look at the links below. > > http://obmegazine.com/resultsmull2000photos1.htm > http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf/html/hole_7_8.html > > We love it!!!! > > Yours compoundingly, > > Del > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk > Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 > University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 > Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 18:37:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QHaRf26650 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:36:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QHaQp26638 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:36:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4QHaPV17933 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:36:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.1.1.41 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 26 May 2000 12:47:26 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by AMRMAILHUB with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 12:39:21 -0500 Message-ID: <806F9B85CD10D41185ED00B0D021C6B12C354C@LONMAIL> From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Another thread Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:30:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk (not that there's anything wrong with the Towcester-was-an-interesting-experience-and-we-have-a-lot-to-learn-from-it thread, BUT...) Someone told me the other day that their introduction to Ultimate came through the unlikely source of an episode of the Wonder Years about 8/9 years ago. Someone somewhere must have this on video! I'd love to find out more about the plot development, but all I know is that Paul joins the school Ultimate team as an antidote to the gung-ho nature of the soccer(!) team that Kevin was in. I'd like to think this was the episode where Paul ended up with the girl, but it was probably still Kevin that got to snog Winnie... No wonder our sport is in such turmoil. Cheers Wayne Angels From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 18:42:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QHfrS27690 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:41:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QHfpp27682 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:41:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from webshield2.na.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4QHfnV18402 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:41:50 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM na-ex-bridge2.nai.com BY webshield2.na.nai.com ; Fri May 26 10:45:03 2000 -0700 Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:41:26 -0700 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F03CF2F8C@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 2 Results Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:39:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1 - I don't play for a UK team anymore - if you think I have no right to air my views - fine - stop reading and delete this. 2 - I honestly applaud Catch for their decision - risking injury to play is foolhardy. 3 - There may be legitimate issues with the awarding of points and seedings, but it would be silly to ignore that Catch are definitely a better team than 12th, from what I can tell, the BUF has come to a reasoned, logical conclusion about the whole affair. Seeing as the Tour is a BUF sanctioned series, they are the arbiters - their decision stands. 4 - There may be concerns with the whole TD thing - but knowing both Nancy and Ian for a fair time, I know that they would not have knowingly booked crappy pitches, Especially when the racecourse had made it known that they would like to be a primary pitch supplier... (see previous posts to Britdisc by Nancy). 5 - Perhaps there should be a location providing committee from BUF that can look for fields - I know that Layout Dreams did a lot of research for the Swindon site (and that's been running for what 5 years now?). Southampton is superlative, also... Maybe what is needed is a team of people to go to Universities and other large sites (I know a bunch of public schools have large sports fields - e.g. Wellingborough school), and approach them. This would have 3 benefits - a) you'd get the fields that you want b) the BUF would become a more recognised organisation outside of Ultimate c) You'd probably see more people coming to the sport - especially if you managed to get academic institutions involved. That's it, I'll shut up now, and go back to the other side of the atlantic Cads Captain and Coach for Learning Curve - the bay area's premier teaching team. www.meths.net/ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 19:37:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QIYJV08195 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 19:34:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QIYHp08190 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 19:34:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from latimer.mail.easynet.net (latimer.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QIYCV23341 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 19:34:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (tnt-20-47.easynet.co.uk [212.134.226.47]) by latimer.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 028C953A66 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 19:08:56 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000f01bfc73c$afdface0$2fe286d4@default> Reply-To: "Benjamin Whenlock" From: "Benjamin Whenlock" To: Subject: Inroduction of Leagues??? Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 19:02:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since the event in question I have tried to look for a solution. The number of ultimate teams is continually growing and in the next 5yrs I can see around 50 teams entering tours with an ever greater demand for pitches. (I have not followed debates on Britdisc for long so forgive me if the idea has already been proposed.) The solution I can see is for leagues to be established for example: League 1 would be: 1 through to 15 League 2 would be: 15 through to 30/32 (rankings from tour 1 and 2) More leagues can be established as more teams enter. Relegation and promotion would be involved meaning teams have something to play for. People will argue that it destroys the spirit of the game but it stops teams from becoming frustrated. This means that for a tour two venues would be needed. It mean a lot more work but it would pay off in the end. I am sure though that there would have been two smaller venues around Towcester that could have accommodated this idea In the evening everyone can all meet up and have a massive party and socialise Please dont hate me for this proposal and just consider the idea. I dont claim to have all the answers but I am sure with a bit of thought the BUF could make this work. All the best Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:03:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QM1Cb07647 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:01:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM1Ap07641 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM19V05972 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-190-151.host.btclick.com ([62.7.190.151]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000526215946.ZNBC16508.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host62-7-190-151.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:59:46 +0100 Received: by host62-7-190-151.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC765.E9205DA0@host62-7-190-151.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 22:58:30 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC765.E9205DA0@host62-7-190-151.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Nolan Taylor'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: The format Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:58:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4QM1Ap07643 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nolan, Whilst I sympathise withyour thoughts, at this stage I don't really have an answer to the problem. In any tournament format, some one is going to be unimpressed with their games. If we go for a completely open event, everyone plays a large number of games with a forgone conclusion, leaving very few games that they can actually fight and compete in. In the tour format, we try and remove this situation on Saturday (one of the reasons for not going with a top 16 format was that it seriously hampered the possibility of a 13 - 16 team coming from the bottom of their pool to progress up). However this will always mean that whoever just misses the split and goes down to the join the 4 teams below, will feel that their Sunday has not been as fruitful as before. A similar situation will happen at T3 when one out of the top five teams, UTI, Dough, Catch, Chevron, and DSM get nudged out into the 5 - 12 group, when they feel that they missed the shot at being in the semi's. Unless we force a false gap in the quality of the teams to fit the events, some teams will always feel that they are the wrong side of the split. This is something that must be addressed if the BUF ever goes to a league or separate Tour formats. The teams on the lower side of the split MUST have the chance to rapidly come back up. Otherwise a team seeing that it is forced to be in a bottom half for a prolonged period of time, will as you suggest, split up as the players go to play in the top group with other teams, or simply give and play a different sport. Chris ---------- From: Nolan Taylor[SMTP:nolan@daletaylor.co.uk] Sent: 26 May 2000 11:48 To: cjhughes@talk21.com Subject: The format ? 3?R 3? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Whatever the ramifications of the current format for Hammerage, I feel it is somewhat of a failure for those of us in the 11-16 category and probably others. Whatever some may naively wish to believe, there is a huge gulf between the mid ranking teams, let alone the top and bottom teams and it is foolish to attempt the current half way house solution. Fever lost one game on Saturday by two points and then spent the rest of the weekend bored to death by the lack of any worthwhile games. OK so we shouldn't have lost, but one or the other team had to and the result for the losers is a wasted weekend when many of us could have been using their time to get fit for Worlds. Jogging against the minnows does NOT qualify! More segregation is required in order that meaningful games are played and thus the standards of all teams are raised. Yes, the top eight deserve to play amongst themselves, but why should the rest of us pay the same fees for a poorer quality pool system? If not this year, it MUST happen next, before players from 9th down simply lose interest in the sport. Nolan From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:05:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QM4LK08024 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM4Jp08018 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM4DV06221 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com ([62.7.184.11]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000526220310.ZNMV16508.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com> for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:03:10 +0100 Received: by host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC766.7933E920@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:02:32 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC766.7933E920@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" , "'Paul Meaney'" Subject: RE: Please stop (RANT INCLUDED!!!) Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:38:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4QM4Jp08019 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul, I am well aware of your credentials in organising tournaments - for your interest I was there the year the Rotterdam bar shut on Saturday night because it ran out of beer. It would be no coincidence that it was one of the first years it ran, and also the first year it had more than 16 teams. Tournament organisers learn from their mistakes, but so do the venues - they have to make the mistake first. This was not the first time an ultimate tournament has drunk the bar dry, and I will be very disappointed with the upcoming generation of players if it is the last. On a more serious note; Quality assurance of the pitches - Ian and Nancy, are at the moment on holiday, which is why they are not replying to a lot of these themselves. I cannot comment on what they were promised. What I do know is this, they were promised that the pitches were to be rolled, mown, and properly marked out. I also know that when they visited the site, initially before Christmas, and since, the weather had been very bad, and like any venue the ground was soft and squishy. This does not forgive the unevenness of the pitches. I know this because I have already asked the same questions of the pair. Nancy has already made the racecourse very aware that she was not impressed, and will be taking up the matter with management. I know that she hopes to get a significant refund, but at this stage I cannot promise anything. Rocks? let's put this into context, none of these 'rocks' was more that 2 inches across, yes it would have hurt if you had laid out onto it, but the only reason we found so many was due to the number of people looking. Go to the beach looking for a particular shell you'll be there all week, 800 players at paganello should be able to get you one within 10 minutes. At Swindon we were five minutes into a game at the first ever tour event before we found the manhole cover on the pitch - the groundsman had been helpful and painted it green so that it blended in. So what about the decision to actually go there in the first place. Well despite what you think, this is a great example of 'if you can do better - why didn't you'. I had only four bids for the tour. Which was nice, because we had already agreed at the AGM that there would be four events this year (The AGM actually agreed that one event would be split North / South, but that was decided to be unworkable, ignoring the fact that I had no northern bids). What if I had had more bids - well I would probably have gone with those venues that had proved themselves. I know what Swindon, and Southampton have to offer. Similarly I know what Exeter / Sheffield / Hitchin / Edinburgh, and all the other places we have been to, can do. But I was relying on the TD's to assure me that a venue is up to scratch. Ian and Nancy are both experienced ultimate players, and saw the potential that the venue had given the conditions. They are then relying on the site organisation to come through with their promises. Someone asked me why I didn't go to the site to check it? I have a job, and a life, and don't have the time or the money to go to Towcester from Cheltenham and back to check a venue. I do this job for free, and for the fun(!) of putting something back into the sport that has given me so much enjoyment. What if I got a bid from Glasgow - should I have gone to check their venue? Would I have seen anything more than an experienced ultimate player would have spotted? Penalties for TD's - don't talk bollocks; a) who's going to decide on the penalties, my shower was hot, I had all the food I needed (I brought my own), and I never had to walk to the toilets. b) how are you going to force them to pay up? (don't even suggest penalising a team for an individuals tournament) c) the price of a tournament is bloody cheap at the moment - you 'should' get one hell of a lot for your 80 - 90 these things are not cheap. So what when the TD / venue don't stump up. Well, as Wayne said, Ian and Nancy are going back to the venue to discuss payment, and I have already made it clear to Nancy that any reduced costs on their behalf should be returned to the teams that entered. Ignoring that Nancy 'made' a four hundred pound loss on the event in an attempt to ensure that teams got what they deserved. For all the problems with T2 this year, I hope one good thing has come out of it - players need to rethink their attitudes towards the sport, what they want from an event, what they can reasonably expect, and how the tournaments and the tour are going to have to change to provide it. Chris DoC ---------- From: Paul Meaney[SMTP:p.meaney@cherwell.com] Sent: 26 May 2000 17:40 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Please stop (RANT INCLUDED!!!) > than adequate pitch so please please please can we stop complaining and > start writing productive emails I am aksing for a reasoned debate on the subject. the last I heard, in a democracy, resoned intelligent debate is a way to move things forward. I am simply asking what kind of quality control the u8c implements. > If you have no solutions don't complain ah! the exuberance of youth! > I am part of an Ultimate team that may fold next year if we cant get any > freshers to join > so please use Britdisc as a way help clubs that need to promote the sport!!! Britdisc is a forum for discussion of all aspects of Disc sports. Please feel free to start a seperate thread. There are hundreds of people (myself included) who have been part of the successful running of University clubs. Start by asking. In the meantime, my concern still stands. If you want to know what I want to see - fine. We get enough 'lets penalise teams blah blah blah..." How about penalising TD's for not delivering the goods. eg - crap pitches - knock £10 quid off the entry fee no food available - knock off a fiver cold showers - knock off a fiver No showers - knock off a tenner no party -knock off a fiver I am sick and tired of going to tournaments, having something cock up because the TD didn't make a simple phone call to ensure that a service was guaranteed, we don't get what we pay for, but the TD''s still end up cleaning up and we STILL end up paying 80/ 90/ 100 quid for less than brilliant service. Bloody hell, can you imagine going to Rotterdam and having the bar shut! there'd be uproar! The AirBreakers had the right idea - they couldn't do it 100% so than rather compromise, they cancelled! The powers that be are all for penalising teams for not showing. How about penalising TD's for NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE!!! You will then argue 'but then no- one will organise a tournament' maybe - but those who DO will make damn sure they get it RIGHT!!! rant over. Paul --- --- Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: http://www.cherwell.com --- --- > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:05:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QM4aM08056 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM4Zp08051 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM4YV06236 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com ([62.7.184.11]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000526220355.XOW22347.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com> for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:03:55 +0100 Received: by host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC766.865D0D20@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:02:54 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC766.865D0D20@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Communication at events Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:50:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4QM4Zp08052 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Something that was highlighted at the weekend was the poor communication at tournaments. Many people complained about the quality of the pitches - I know that. Some people said the event should never have happened. Less than a third of the teams there had someone at the Captains meeting, at the stated time. That is your moment to make suggestions, and raise questions. Use it or lose it. With the captains meeting less than half an hour before the first game, a serious team should have been there ready to play. However the problem does not stop there - Hammarage have suggested that some teams gained from Catches withdrawal - yes Headrush did, they gained a bye into the second knockout game - against Hammerage; Headrush won the game. But an attempt was made on Saturday night to adjust the schedule so that some of the team moved up in the 5-12 category to compensate for the presence of only 7 teams. However Headrush had already checked the schedule, worked out that they did not have to play till late and gone home. To adjust the tournament to their detriment, would have added to the list of complaints over the weekend. The BUF are hoping to invest in a PA system - that would be nice, but someone has to ship it to events (are the BUF going to buy me a van as well?). I don't really have any other solutions to this problem, other than suggest that in future, if you have a bye, make sure that you are there just in case you don't. But for me that seems extreme for the rare cases that something like this will happen. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:05:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QM4jD08088 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM4hp08070 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QM4gU11137 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com ([62.7.184.11]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000526220403.XPJ22347.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:04:03 +0100 Received: by host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFC766.8B1D2D40@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:03:02 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFC766.8B1D2D40@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" , "'Peter Connor'" Subject: RE: complaints about complaints Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:54:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4QM4hp08074 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks for the vote of confidence Pete. Always glad to know I'm at the front of your thoughts ;-) Since I am clearly the source of so many problems, I was about to suggest that someone be sent round to shoot me, but since I doubt Britdisc could cope with 400 simultaneous replies, I'll retract the suggestion. Chris (not DoC) ps Tom, could you high light the sarcastic sections for our hard of thinking friends out there - thanks ---------- From: Peter Connor[SMTP:p.m.connor@open.ac.uk] Sent: 26 May 2000 18:33 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: complaints about complaints I got 404 errors on both of these webpages, clearly something needs to be done about the quality of the complaints regarding complaints concerning the number of complaints. I blame Chris Hughes, everything's always his fault. Pete > Dear Britdisc, > > I would like to complain about the number of complaints about > complaints. > > I have been playing on far more uneven and treacherous ground > recently, just take a look at the links below. > > http://obmegazine.com/resultsmull2000photos1.htm > http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf/html/hole_7_8.html > > We love it!!!! > > Yours compoundingly, > > Del > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk > Finance Office | | Tel 01203 572640 > University of Warwick | | Fax 01203 524573 > Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:17:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QMEhO09641 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QMEep09623 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QMEdV07572 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vSN8-000Ann-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:28 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:29:06 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: ok!! References: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE02716557@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> <006e01bfc72b$14c10b20$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> In-Reply-To: <006e01bfc72b$14c10b20$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul Meaney writes > Or would you prefer that we bury our heads in the sand and accept what >we are given without question? 4 bids for 4 Tour tournaments... either we accept what we are offered (and we pay the price that is asked, and maybe learn our unfortunate lessons later) or we don't play. Suddenly, IMHO, the "if you think you can do better..." argument becomes relevant again. (As Chris said, after Towcester, many people thought they could - next year's Diary should be Ultimate every weekend!) I cannot argue with the fact that the Tour attempts to meet certain standards - I'll even attempt to find the docs that details the aims of the Tour that Si Hill drew up a few years back. (Though I suspect that Si probably sent them to all the team contacts in 1997... so you, of course, read them, even if you don't have a copy of them any more, and you did, of course, fill in and return the Ultim8 Questionnaire that was run between T4 and T5 of 1997?) However, there are no formal rules, anywhere, on what you can charge teams to enter a tournament. If you don't like what you're paying for what you get, don't pay and don't get. In the long run we'd then end up abandoning the current system, and replacing it with another. If you have any seriously thought out proposals on a replacement system, or evolution of the current one, let somebody know - DON'T just whinge about the current one. Wayne wondering if it's really worth the effort... *Then again, whilst so few people are willing to make the effort to run events, people are willing to pay over the odds to play in the few that happen. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:17:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QMEia09651 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QMEhp09643 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QMEgV07594 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vSN8-000Ano-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:14:27 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 21:27:33 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour 2 !? References: <87BA8D7748A8D111A18700A0C94C7EB8024EA217@ldn-post> In-Reply-To: <87BA8D7748A8D111A18700A0C94C7EB8024EA217@ldn-post> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk WCRM08 writes >Apparently ultimate as we know it, played on a flat rectangular pitch of cut >grass, is too boring and predictable. Humour: 6/10 Making friends and influencing people: 1/10 >The food was over priced and poor quality, And did you tell the vendors this? The food vendors were there at their own risk, meeting their own quality controls, and making their own profits/losses. There were 2 supermarkets (and Tesco's has a cafe) within 5 mins down the road... > I understand the bar ran out of beer and shut early. How much beer does an Ultimate player drink? How many Ultimate players will attend a party? How much beer do you therefore require for an Ultimate party? Does that party end, just because the bar has closed? Anyway, where were you? BTW, I wasn't at the party either... I really wasn't in the mood to face a night of half-pissed Ultimate players griping about the obvious... >and the prizes were a disgrace, especially spirit. Tournaments are run to a budget, to include prizes. For info, this particular tournament wasn't looking likely to make a profit (Paul, are you paying attention here?). If we'd like 'nicer' prizes, we'll have to pay more. Do you actually have any useful proposals for improving things? Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri May 26 23:20:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4QMJPn10572 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:19:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QMJNp10561 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:19:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4QMJIV08339 for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:19:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vSRl-000Axj-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 26 May 2000 23:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 23:17:36 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: u8c Subject: Re: Updated Tour Results References: <392EABA9.30202.66A5F52@localhost> In-Reply-To: <392EABA9.30202.66A5F52@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Done. Andrew Tucker writes >Here's a summary of the official Tour results so far. Wayne will be >updating the Tour web site this weekend. >http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/ > >Sorry that it's taken so long.... >Norm. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter u8c, webmaster http://www.ultim8tour.freeserve.co.uk/tour2000/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat May 27 11:20:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4RAIgs17520 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RAIep17515 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RAIeU07572 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10642 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from marvin.soton.ac.uk (b54cs1p16.net.soton.ac.uk [152.78.202.66]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e4RAIYB18860 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 11:18:34 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Pennington Reply-To: nap197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 3, update Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:24:14 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4RAIfp17516 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A reminder to all teams looking to play at Tour 3 in Southampton. The deadline for entry is 3 June that's next Saturday. Entry is only confirmed by me receiving your cheque and to date I've only received ten. In light of the recent e-mails stating the penalties for late entry I would like to remind teams that they have one week to get an entry cheque to me (details below) and send their BUF deposits to Dora(?) To date I have only received cheques from the following teams: BAF BAF Co-ed Point Blank Fussion Dough Boy Strange Blue Fluid Druids GB Juniors GB Women (GBW) Jedi and replies from the following, but as yet no cheque though some are in the post: UTI Hammerage Mohawks DSM SCA Cheers marv ---------------------- Invitation to Tour III Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton June 24/25 2000 Dear Team Tour III will take place in Southampton on 24/25 June. The event will be a split site event as per last year offering some of the best pitches in the Ultimate calendar, with the main site, Wellington providing on site camping and bar. The tournament is open to 32 teams at an entry fee of £85 per team. More details will be sent upon receipt of entry by filling in the form below, with a cheque made payable to N.Pennington. Registration deadline is 3 June. I look forward to seeing you all there. Neil Pennington aka. Marv nap197@soton.ac.uk -------------------------------------------------------- We would like to enter Tour III. I enclose a cheque for £85 made payable to N.Pennington Team Name: Team Contact: Address: Telephone: E-mail: Please send cheques to: N.Pennington 25 Holyrood Avenue Highfield Southampton SO17 1SH From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat May 27 13:45:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4RChpI03415 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:43:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RChnp03410 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:43:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f234.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.234]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4RChmV11558 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:43:48 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 14208 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2000 12:43:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000527124338.14207.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.125.146.155 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 May 2000 05:43:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.125.146.155] From: "Kerry maybury" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Thank You Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:43:38 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I was getting rather bord/depressed with my revision, so i checked my e-mail account and it has to be said that you guys cheered me up no end, such wit and humor. Role on the next tourney. Enjoy, Kerry ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat May 27 13:56:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4RCu4i04970 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RCu2p04962 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:56:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (psuth@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RCu2V12502 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:56:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (psuth@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08880 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 13:56:00 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: psuth owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 13:56:00 +0100 (BST) From: ed To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Please stop (RANT INCLUDED!!!) In-Reply-To: <01BFC766.7933E920@host62-7-184-11.host.btclick.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Fri, 26 May 2000, Chris Hughes wrote: >anything. Rocks? let's put this into context, none of these 'rocks' was >more that 2 inches across, try more like 6-8 inches. rather like those you might find in a 'rock'-ery. >So what about the decision to actually go there in the first place. Well >despite what you think, this is a great example of 'if you can do better >- why didn't you'. I had only four bids for the tour. >on their behalf should be returned to the teams that entered. Ignoring >that Nancy 'made' a four hundred pound loss on the event in an attempt to >ensure that teams got what they deserved. no wonder no-one wants to host tour events: it seems to cost 3010 pounds (29x90 + 400) to buy some cones and scoreboards (unless these are supplied by the u8c?), paper and marker pens, rent a marquee, get together some pitiful prizes, and hire a bar, groundstaff and some shoddy pitches. 400 of which is out of your own pocket. not to mention a great deal of (much appreciated) unpaid time, effort, hassle and abuse. ed shardlow -- give me everything. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat May 27 15:25:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4REMxV15889 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4REMvp15883 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4REMvV16398 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12vhUO-00017D-00; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:56 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12vhUN-0001q2-00; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:55 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com Subject: TD discretion Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:22:55 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello britdisc, as an assistant tournament-director for the next BUF tournament (CoedCam http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam/), I'd like to give advance warning that we reserve the right to reschedule the tournament, in the event of any team's withdrawing, or any other unforeseen occurrence. I don't know if Headrush did deliberatly scarper on Saturday night at Towcester so as to prevent the tournament from being rescheduled, but I would view such an action as unacceptable at any tournament I help run. Captains are responsible for keeping in touch with the TD during the tournament. TDs will endeavour to give the maximal possible notice of any changes to the schedule. Finally, I want to add a comment to the enormous pile of chat about Towcester: I think it is beyond the pale to complain about the prizes at Towcester. We (Strange Blue) enjoyed our "Plate" biscuits in the van on the way home; they were a lot tastier than glassware and silverware we have won on other occasions. In my opinion, it is absolutely fine for prizes to be purely symbolic. I think Ian and Nancy should be left alone now. Thanks, Nancy for all your hard work! David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat May 27 18:53:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4RHoqB10044 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:50:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RHoop10033 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:50:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RHonU02922 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:50:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-93.mendelevium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.70.93]) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12vkjE-0003jy-00; Sat, 27 May 2000 18:50:28 +0100 X-Sender: frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 18:51:46 -0700 To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, BDGA Mailing List From: Sam Neilson Subject: European Invasion of American Air-Space Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I happen to KNOW that there are quite a few people reading this who have successfully reached their 35th birthday - don't be shy ... it can happen to the best. Whether you are an Ultimate fanatic, dedicated Disc Golfer, or someone who floats serenely above and beyond both of these great sport, THE AGE THING WILL CATCH YOU ALL OUT EVENTUALLY! If you have reached this second paragraph, you (or someone you know) have (has) already qualified to compete in the up-coming World Masters Flying Disc Championships 2000, which will take place in Rochester, New York. For those that are unaware, the North Americans made great efforts to attend the (Open, i.e. NO AGE LIMIT) World Overall Championships in Kalmar, Sweden during the summer of 1999 - and many of them were veterans of the 35-and-over annual event. I think it would only be fitting if we Europeans made a similar effort to join in their celebration of Disc Sports ... "But I've never even competed in an 'Overall' event!" ... all the more reason to make the trip and enjoy the experience of mixing it with the true 'legends' of Disc Sports - there is no qualification necessary! Everybody is welcome. The "Masters" (or "Seniors" as some still call it) continues to attract many of the founders, past and current world champions of our family of Disc Sports: Disc Golf; Freestyle; Self Caught Flight; Distance; Accuracy; Double Disc Dourt (DDC) and Discathon. If you think an Ultimate-only or a Disc-Golf-only event is a challenge ... its about time you took part in the 'decathlon' (okay, maybe 'septathlon') of Disc Sports! So why am I saying all this? ... because I cannot keep this secret to myself any longer! The World Masters 2000 will be my FOURTH in a row and while its great to be the only European, I can't help feeling that my 'continental' friends are missing out on an experience of a lifetime! The event details are listed on the 'Discovering The World' website at: http://dtworld.com/masters.htm If you cannot make it during the week of 10-15 July, then maybe I will catch up with you at either the PDGA Worlds (Ann Arbor, USA) or World Ultimate & Guts (Heilbronn, Germany) ... but by then it will be too late! Please contact me if you want to know more about the European invasion of World Masters. Cheers Sam Neilson Sam Neilson Ultimate: Chevron Action Flash Disc Golf: BDGA #0017 ; PDGA: #8801 Home Telephone: +44 (0)1926 864 276 Home E-mail: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk URL: TO BE ADDED From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 28 00:52:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4RNmQa22621 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 May 2000 00:48:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4RNmMp22613 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 00:48:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f64.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.64]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4RNmLV05360 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 00:48:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 45818 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2000 23:48:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000527234809.45817.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 137.205.8.1 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 27 May 2000 16:48:09 PDT X-Originating-IP: [137.205.8.1] From: "Ian Bradshaw" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Not a Tour II rant Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 00:48:09 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anybody tell me if the worlds this summer are being televised on British TV, as I would love to watch them and more importantly a video of them might be useful in entraping guilible freshers in the autum. Just a thought but has anybody aproached the BBC to offer them rights to televise British Ultimate (say the Nationals in September) as they can't seem to be able to fill grandstand these days. Ian ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 28 11:56:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4SAsGm03296 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 May 2000 11:54:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4SAsFp03291 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 11:54:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from typhoon.mail.pipex.net (typhoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.27]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4SAsDV20384 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 11:54:14 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 5836 invoked from network); 28 May 2000 10:54:12 -0000 Received: from userbf80.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.142.101) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 28 May 2000 10:54:12 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01bfc893$b859bde0$db96bc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: References: <20000526165427.23947.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Tour 2 Results Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 11:58:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just so that it is very clear: I applaud the effort made by the Stebbings and am gutted on their behalf about the way things went. It seems abundantly clear that they were let down badly by the venue. OK - back to business: > The sympathy I had for Catch 22 after the weekend has completely evaporated > in the face of this witless and uncalled-for posturing. Sorry you didn't like my gag. Speaking seriously we didn't want sympathy - we wanted the people who agreed with us to make a similar stand. > If you really want to put your seeding on the line (which you clearly don't) > then why don't you start T3 at 12th and work your way back up. > > shock horror...no takers? In what way does playing from 12th seed put our seeding on the line? Why should we work our way back up? In case the logic of my point was not clear I was trying to say this: We have been put back in at 3rd seed. Consequently a group of teams below have been moved downwards. They ought to be irritated about this - I would be. So I suggested that if they wanted to put the decision to the test - on the field - where it counts - then to drop us a line. In fact one team did write and say that although they didn't feel they would run us very close they would love it if we could get along to their practice for a game. Other than that nobody came forward - maybe nobody thought it I meant it. Probably Chev and DSM thought it was more effort than it was worth since we will all get the chance to fight it out in Southampton. The only team with something significant to gain from playing us is Hammerage. OK - that MUST be clear by now. Second point - oh yes I'm on a roll. > If you really want to put your seeding on the line (which you clearly don't) > then why don't you start T3 at 12th and work your way back up. Have you read the ranking list? We are placed 14th at the moment because we chose to *put our position at Nationals on the line* by throwing away 200+ points. In what sense do you think that we "clearly don't" want to put our seeding on the line? Third point - oh yes I'm quite irritated. > ps - I don't know you either and no, I don't play for Hammerage. Got me - I shouldn't have said that to David Eastman - I apologise. For anyone else who doesn't know who I am, perhaps I can put my continuing rants into perspective. At the end of 96 season, I conceived of and implemented (with lots of help - you know who you are!) "The BUF Ultim-8 Tour". I take it personally that the Tour has had some problems this year - I feel like there must be a flaw in my thinking - and I want to see us all get past those problems and make the competition structure work as well as possible for as many teams as possible. Unfortunately my job makes it difficult to help Chris and the others at the moment - which makes it all the more frustrating for me. For this - amongst other reasons - I (and the rest of Catch) deeply want to win the Tour. Whatever chance we had has gone this year because of our decision not to play in Towcester. Thats it from me. Si - Catch 22 oh - one last thing - I fail to see how a TEAM fee of 90 quid for a tournament is expensive. Its less than 10 GBP per player. Tournaments should be more expensive - TDs should make big profits when they get it right! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 28 18:59:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4SHtvw25200 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 May 2000 18:55:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4SHttp25195 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 18:55:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4SHttV06019 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 18:55:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12w7I0-000CND-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 28 May 2000 17:55:53 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 10:24:30 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: REMINDER: Tour 3 - Southampton References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Some people seem to have missed this, and it sounds like it would be useful to them: Mon, 15 May 2000, by Neil Pennington ; Subject: Tour 3: Southampton >Invitation to Tour III >Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton >June 24/25 2000 > >Dear Team > >Tour III will take place in Southampton on 24/25 June. The >event will be a split site event as per last year offering >some of the best pitches in the Ultimate calendar, with the >main site, Wellington providing on site camping and bar. > >The tournament is open to 32 teams at an entry fee of £85 >per team. More details will be sent upon receipt of entry >by filling in the form below, with a cheque made payable to >N.Pennington. > >Registration deadline is 3 June. > >I look forward to seeing you all there. > >Neil Pennington >aka. Marv > >nap197@soton.ac.uk > >-------------------------------------------------------- > >We would like to enter Tour III. I enclose a cheque for >£85 made payable to N.Pennington > >Team Name: > >Team Contact: > >Address: > > > > >Telephone: > >E-mail: > >Please send cheques to: N.Pennington > > 25 Holyrood Avenue > Highfield > Southampton > SO17 1SH > Thu, 25 May 2000, by Chris Hughes ; Subject: Late Entry Penalties >My apologies if you read all the way to the end of my other mail, but I thought >I ought to emphasise the point. > >Late Entries >This years tour has been extremely poor for teams entering late. The U8C has >been discussing this in detail as well, and has made a number of decisions: >1. No retrospective late penalties will be issued. If you were late entering a >Tour event then consider that your warning. >2. Teams who are late in submitting the BUF deposits will be deducted 5% of the >points accrued from that event for each day the deposit is late - i.e. if the >deposit is one day late you lose 5%, 20 days late you lose 100%. We have had to >resort to this since some teams have failed to pay their deposits for T2 as yet. >3. Teams who are late in submitting their entry to the TD will lose 5% of the >points accrued from that event each day. This is ontop of any points lost from >late payment of deposit. This excludes any prior arrangement a team may have >made with the TD (e.g. GBJuniors who like to pay in cash on the day, as long as >they have arranged this in advance with the TD). >This has had to be introduced because of the large number of top 8 teams who are >late in entering. The tour events are supposed to be assisting these teams and >yet they are the teams who are repeatedly late in entering. It was believed that >points penalties would provide a greater incentive to the top teams. >THESE PENALTIES WILL BE ENFORCED FOR T3 & T4. > >FOR T3 THE DEADLINE FOR ENTRIES IN JUNE 3RD (For Both BUF deposit, and for >Tournament Entry) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun May 28 23:09:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4SM6gO24986 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 May 2000 23:06:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4SM6dp24979 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 23:06:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4SM6cU11644 for ; Sun, 28 May 2000 23:06:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12wBCe-000Eoi-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 28 May 2000 23:06:37 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:35:09 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Not a Tour II rant References: <20000527234809.45817.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000527234809.45817.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sun, 28 May 2000, by Ian Bradshaw; Subject: Not a Tour II rant >Can anybody tell me if the worlds this summer are being televised on British >TV, as I would love to watch them and more importantly a video of them might >be useful in entraping guilible freshers in the autum. "Televised" in a "proper" manner, rather than just 20 second clips on the local news? Somehow I rather doubt it, I'm afraid, and this applies around most of the world. The tournament organisation is considering having film crews on site (see attached mail from the WUGC mailing list - with apologies to those of you that will now have received this for possibly the third time!) There *are* assorted video items around (some videos of US Nationals were used when I was a fresher; C4s documentary of the 94 Worlds in Colchester is probably the most weighty UK production; assorted BAF/Blue Peter sessions are the most infamous; there's a video article from the [Catch vs Red Lights] British Open at Eastbourne on the net [the British open website?!] somewhere...) and Jester has put together a pretty funky compilation on CD... I'd recommend contacting the BUF for a more precise idea of what's stashed in their 'library'. >Just a thought but has anybody aproached the BBC to offer them rights to >televise British Ultimate (say the Nationals in September) as they can't >seem to be able to fill grandstand these days. I'd hope that the BUF have been working on the potential of this idea, but personally suspect that the time is still not yet right to put ourselves (British Ultimate in general) under such a spotlight. Wayne Wed, 24 May 2000 Subject: Fwd: FILM/VIDEO MATERIAL WUGC 2000 >Hi ! > >I am forwarding this request/information which TD Mark Kendall has sent out >to the country and team contacts and hope it may be of interest for some of >you. Sorry to those who receive this twice. > >Thomas >-------------------------------------------------- >From: Mark Kendall >Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:20:00 +0200 >Subject: FILM/VIDEO MATERIAL WUGC 2000 > >Hello Country and Team Representatives, > >we are considering hiring an independent production team to make >professional film material from this WUGC avialable to the participating >countries and the media. To assure a high quality product, we are >interested in knowing what kind of interest we can count on in helping >support this endeavour. There will be two main types of potential coverage >available: > >1. The production team will provide a "rough cut" (approx. 50 min.) with >the best scenes on the playing field and on the sidelines. In addition, a >short "news cut" (approx. 5 min.) will be prepared for direct use without >editing. These options are mainly available for TV stations and sport news >programs but could be used by disc associations for promotion purposes. >Please check with specific TV broadcasting companies in you country for >professional quality news material! > >2. The tournament video - this will have not only the best scenes from the >fields but will include the event sideline and party action as well. This >video will be available for purchase by all participants and fans. > >We would appreciate any kind of response on these two points. > >In addition, is your country interested in documenting their participation >at this worlds. We will meet you at the airport and film your arrival, film >you on the field, catch your players at the party and in their beds. This >will be the Ultimate souvenir of your trip! Is there any interest out >there! Ask for the price if you are interested. This is a separate issue >and will be financed on an individual basis! > >If you have any question please ask - and let us know if there is any >interest out there. We do need some help financing this material! Thanks >for any comment... > >Mark Kendall, TD WUGC 2000 >http://www.wuc2000.org/ > >-- The WUGC mailing list: http://www.wuc2000.org/contact/themaillist.htm -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter at home: 01737-242109 wayne@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@england.com at work: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 29 07:50:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4T6l2X13007 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 May 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4T6l1p13002 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4T6l1V28952 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA22069 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 May 2000 07:47:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 07:47:00 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200005290647.HAA22069@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Thursday 1st June 2000 Harbour Ultimate - CANCELLED (4 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] CANCELLATION was announced on EuroDisc 21/2/00! Contact Airbreakers XLR8RS Outdoor Tournament (3 days) @ near Brussels (40km south), Belgium [Outdoor Ultimate Abroad] Contact Jean-Bruno Pambou Address Rue F.Neuray 59 1050 Bruxelles Belgium Email sprint.jb@skynet.be Phone 0032/2 344.14.13 [Margreet / Jean-Bruno] Saturday 3rd June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Cambridge [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Olivier Cottray Email ojco@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Phone (01223) 503 738 [H]; (01223) 221 203 Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 274 9097 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon May 29 13:02:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4TC0jv19813 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:00:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4TC0hp19806 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:00:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4TC0cU17209 for ; Mon, 29 May 2000 13:00:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from jimson.demon.co.uk ([212.228.22.128]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12wODk-000IIp-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 May 2000 12:00:37 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:00:44 +0100 Subject: 10th Notre-Dame de Monts Open From: Jim McDonnell To: britdisc Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Britdisc-ers - If you're getting ready for Worlds, this probably won't interest you, but... The 10th Open Tournament at Notre-Dame de Monts has been announced for 28th July - 3rd August. There's a different format this year - it's going to be 'frisbee sans frontieres' - sort of an international hat. So this year the tournament is open to all-comers rather than by invite only. Registration cost is 100FF, and for that you'll get free accommodation (camping, natch), food and evening entertainments - all you have to do is play one hour-long game each night... oh, and be prepared to teach/introduce frisbee to the local French kids for a couple of hours each afternoon. Spaces are limited as there's only six teams of twelve. If you're interested, go to the website http://mairie-notre-dame-de-monts.fr and register. You'll be notified if you're in or not. And then... if you'd like a scenic warm-up, is there anyone interested in making a fortnight of it and cycling to the tournament with us? We did this last year and it was a blast; average of 40-50 miles a day, camping en route, eating al fresco. The plan at the moment is to travel by train to Paris and then cycle from Notre-Dame Paris to Notre-Dame de Monts. Which is 281 miles according to my routefinder. You could cycle back as well (time permitting) or get the train all the way. If you're up for it, please contact me at jimbob@jimson.demon.co.uk or on 07976 720001 and remember - " Ou est le disque? - le disque est dan's l'arbres" Cheers - Jim McDonnell From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 10:57:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4U9t8h03061 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:55:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4U9t5p03052 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:55:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele1.inweb.co.uk (root@tele-1.inweb.co.uk [212.38.65.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4U9t5U12126 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:55:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from inadvance.pragmax.com ([212.38.67.87]) by tele1.inweb.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15920; Tue, 30 May 2000 09:55:10 GMT X-EnvelopeTo: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Received: by INADVANCE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 30 May 2000 10:52:28 +0100 Message-ID: From: Peter Hallett To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" , "'David J.C. MacKay'" Subject: RE: TD discretion Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:52:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'd like to set the record straight for Headrush... Chris Hughes wrote: > However the problem does not stop there - Hammarage have suggested that > some teams gained from Catches withdrawal - yes Headrush did, they > gained a bye into the second knockout game - against Hammerage; Headrush > won the game. But an attempt was made on Saturday night to adjust the > schedule so that some of the team moved up in the 5-12 category to > compensate for the presence of only 7 teams. However Headrush had > already checked the schedule, worked out that they did not have to play > till late and gone home. To adjust the tournament to their detriment, > would have added to the list of complaints over the weekend. In many sports byes occur. Someone will benefit. At least in this case the team that seems most aggrieved (Hammerage) had a chance to set the record straight. I think the result of the game between Headrush and Hammerage speaks for itself. The serious issue here is that rescheduling the tournament on Saturday night was ever considered. Had a significant number of teams dropped out then of course rescheduling would have been appropriate. However, to consider such a sweeping change on the basis of one team's departure from a tournament is ludicrous. As Chris has said, the captains meeting is the place for last minute changes. At the very worst any rescheduling of the tournament should have been made aware to ALL teams before the end of play on Saturday. To set the record straight, Headrush had not 'worked out that they did not have to play'; we spoke with the tournament organisers to check the situation regarding any possible bye. Only then did we make plans for the next day. David J.C. MacKay wrote: > I don't know if Headrush did deliberatly scarper > on Saturday night at Towcester so as to prevent the tournament > from being rescheduled, but I would view such an action as > unacceptable at any tournament I help run. I'm sure I speak for Headrush when I say that we are offended by the implication here. From my above comment it is clear that Headrush acted on information obtained from tournament officials. Whether our players chose to stay or go home is irrelevant. We all would have liked the tournament to have been better (I know Nancy and Ian did their best in the face of adversity). I'm currently nursing a very badly damaged ankle as result of going over on one of the ruts in fields before our last game on Saturday. For me the whinging who should get a bye and the slanderous undertones of the comments regarding Headrush really have added insult to injury. Pete ------------------------------------------------------ Peter Hallett Pragmax Ltd. 14 Orchard Street, Bristol BS1 5EH, UK. Peter.Hallett@Pragmax.com +44 (0)117 9874100 ------------------------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: David J.C. MacKay [mailto:mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: 27 May 2000 15:23 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; ian.stebbing@uk.pwcglobal.com > Subject: TD discretion > > > Hello britdisc, > > as an assistant tournament-director for the next BUF > tournament (CoedCam http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam/), > I'd like to give advance > warning that we reserve the right to reschedule the tournament, > in the event of any team's withdrawing, or any other unforeseen > occurrence. > > I don't know if Headrush did deliberatly scarper > on Saturday night at Towcester so as to prevent the tournament > from being rescheduled, but I would view such an action as > unacceptable > at any tournament I help run. > > Captains are responsible for keeping in touch with the TD > during the tournament. TDs will endeavour to give the maximal possible > notice of any changes to the schedule. > > Finally, I want to add a comment to the enormous pile > of chat about Towcester: I think it is beyond the pale to > complain about the prizes at Towcester. We (Strange Blue) enjoyed > our "Plate" biscuits in the van on the way home; they were a lot > tastier than glassware and silverware we have won on other occasions. > In my opinion, it is absolutely fine for prizes to be purely > symbolic. > I think Ian and Nancy should be left alone now. Thanks, Nancy > for all your hard work! > > David > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk > > www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ > Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 > home: 740511 > Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 > Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 11:08:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UA6oC06745 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:06:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UA6np06733 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:06:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f264.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.142]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4UA6mU14421 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:06:48 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 81126 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 2000 10:06:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000530100638.81125.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 163.1.103.107 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 May 2000 03:06:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [163.1.103.107] From: "Emily J. Lyons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Cam2000 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 06:06:38 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hiya Britdisc! I'm just wondering if there's info. out there on where the fields are this weekend in relation to the train station etc. The deal is that I have to go to the Genome campus on Sunday (can only play one day...boohoo :-( ) and need to know where all these things, fields and the Hinxton campus are in relation to eachother and the train station. Is there camping available at the fields? Anyone know anything about bike hire in Cambridge? Apologies if this info has been sent out already. Help! Thanks much, Emily Ow! Sharks GB Women ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 11:10:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UA9dK07722 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:09:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UA9bp07709 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:09:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UA9SV21572 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:09:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00894 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:09:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from B45B-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45b-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.38]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e4UA9NB23533 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 11:09:23 +0100 (BST) From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Womens Nationals Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 11:09:09 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4UA9bp07710 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a reminder that the Womens Outdoor Nationals is to be held on 1st/2nd July at Wellington Sports Ground Southampton. £80 per team deadline is 10th June. Any queries please contact me Sally Pennington 39 Portswood Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2ET 023 80678147 Cheers Sally Skunks) ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 12:21:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UBJr900659 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:19:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UBJpp00644 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:19:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UBJoV00913 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:19:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by lilac.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12wk3n-0000V7-00; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:19:47 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12wk3n-00031u-00; Tue, 30 May 2000 12:19:47 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, ejlyons@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Cam2000 Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:19:47 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Emily and all, there are directions and a map on this web site http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam/ It is not a huge walk from the railway station to the site. Bike hire is possible at the railway station too, and at various places near to the station. There is no on-site camping. Accomm information is on the web site. Hinxton campus is bloody miles away. You need to take a train from Cambridge. Information is here: http://www.ebi.ac.uk/Information/Site_Info/site_info.html By the way, there is an excellent web-thingy called Google (google.com) which is good for answers to these sorts of questions. I found the Hinxton directions by typing "hinxton campus" into google. Of course, it doesn't always work: there happens to be a camera called a "Cam 2000" which is mentioned on various adult porn sites.... yours David > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 11:16:10 2000 > From: "Emily J. Lyons" > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Cam2000 > > Hiya Britdisc! > > I'm just wondering if there's info. out there on where the fields are this > weekend in relation to the train station etc. The deal is that I have to go > to the Genome campus on Sunday (can only play one day...boohoo :-( ) and > need to know where all these things, fields and the Hinxton campus are in > relation to eachother and the train station. Is there camping available at > the fields? Anyone know anything about bike hire in Cambridge? Apologies > if this info has been sent out already. > > Help! > > Thanks much, > > Emily > Ow! > Sharks > GB Women > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 15:05:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UE2Ca21549 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:02:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UE28p21523 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:02:08 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:02:34 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Subject: Daily Digest Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, You can now get Britdisc in one easy-to-swallow Daily Digest format. Simply send an email to: britdisc-daily-s ubscribe@egroups.com [NB you must remove the space between the 's' and the 'ubscribe' ... I had to do this to get it past the automated intecept! Sam] You'll receive a confirmation email, and then (once confirmed) an introductory mail with more details. I would appreciate it if team captains / chairpeople could pass this message onto the various team email lists that abound, as I think this service may appeal to some people who currently are not subscribed to Britdisc. Please note this service will not be replacing Britdisc, and people cannot post to the daily version (all postings will still have to go through Britdisc itself). Any queries, feel free to drop me a line, Love & Luck, Lozza (Night) Fever Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 15:08:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UE7Ws23465 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UE7Tp23451 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.jakinternet.co.uk (qmailr@[212.41.41.61]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4UE7OV22054 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:07:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 768 invoked by uid 101); 30 May 2000 13:49:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.41.50.89?) (212.41.50.89) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 30 May 2000 13:49:48 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by daletaylor.co.uk (CommuniGate SMTP 2.9) with ESMTP id S.002163965892 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 14:53:25 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:55:15 +0100 Subject: Re: Please stop (RANT INCLUDED!!!) From: Nolan Taylor To: Britdisc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00a101bfc731$1064ce30$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ? 3?R 3? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > I am sick and tired of going to tournaments, having something cock > up because the TD didn't make a simple phone call to ensure that a service > was guaranteed, we don't get what we pay for, but the TD''s still end up > cleaning up and we STILL end up paying 80/ 90/ 100 quid for less than > brilliant service. > Hi Paul, I was in total agreement with you until you got to the idea of penalising TDs. I don't think any TD would organise an event if they thought they were likely to suffer the verbal onslaught and humiliation that Nancy has received. I think that is penalty enough for the cock up AND that it will ensure the same type of error does not occur again. Also, having organised the British Open for five years, I would ask you to consider this... I had a five year legal contract with the Saffrons and every year every aspect of the minutiae of that contract was gone over again and again AND further reiterated AND further agreed in writing. To infer that it is just a matter of a phone call is naivety itself. Every single year the Saffrons changed some aspect or did not deliver something which was agreed in writing, usually without warning. (I don't know how extensive your knowledge of the law is but if it's better than mine, which wouldn't be difficult, please feel free to correct me) I really felt it was tantamount to impossible for me to spend further time and/or risk vast sums of money, taking the Saffrons to court. SO, if the BUF were to undertake to punish TDs, they would have to support those TDs financially (as a minimum) when matters become litigious. One of the main reasons that I'm not holding the open this year is that I was so embarrassed when bars closed earlier than agreed, Parties simply didn't happen, bar-b-qs didn't happen, the correct no of pitches was not available, the date was changed, additional charges were levied on the players, showers were not available, car parking and camping were not clearly sign posted and fenced off, no PA system was available, no secure area was available for me.... I could go on!!!... Personally, I can assure you that anyone at the BUF attempting to penalise me for this would be lucky to get away with just an earbashing! in fact they'd have to take ME to court to get the cash. Please consider this. Cheers Nolan From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 15:28:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UEQYW00467 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:26:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UEQVp00447 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:26:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from lemontree.org (lemontree.org [194.105.162.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UEQUV24519 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 15:26:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from [10.10.10.100] by lemontree.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Tue, 30 May 2000 15:30:06 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 15:26:31 +0100 Subject: Nolan's Contract Point From: Andy Catlin To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Regarding Nolan's point about setting up specific contracts and then various parties not delivering - my initial suggestion would be for a TD to go for non-payment or compensation for breach of contract. I work in a performing arts venue and if/when suppliers don't deliver (whether that be artists, printers, etc), we usually take this course of action. The implications for Ultimate and TDs are that you would normally have to go through the whole invoice/"Are you a legitimate company?" type deal, so that you only pay after the event or a percentage upfront. Is it not possible for the BUF to either take on this responsibility or provide a sample/template of a legally binding contract for teams/TDs to use which could be amended with a specific guarantee of listed services? We all know how much major tournament fees can add up to, so to spend a few quid on nailing down the worst case scenario that seems to happen quite a lot doesn't seem to be a hardship. Thoughts, suggestions, etc to the usual place... Candy Falling Skies, Aberdeen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 16:20:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UF97A15291 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 16:09:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UF6Gp14087 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 16:06:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mta2-svc.virgin.net (mta2-svc.virgin.net [194.168.54.143]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UF6FU17184 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 16:06:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from zqkciqap ([62.252.40.224]) by mta2-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000530150521.SLIF22022.mta2-svc.virgin.net@zqkciqap> for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 16:05:21 +0100 Message-ID: <005501bfca49$063dccc0$e028fc3e@zqkciqap> From: "ADAM BATCHELOR" To: References: <20000526165427.23947.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Catch 22 Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:09:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si and Catch 22 Well done. Right decision. In your position I would have done the same thing. Good restraint when dealing with the less well informed among the Ultimate world. You must suffer fools far better than me. Good luck in the rest of the tour Adam Fatboy Batchelor Ex Druid current Headrush PS We benefited with a bye on our top 8 crossover but we did play and beat Hamerage in our 5-8 semi final. ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Barry To: Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Tour 2 Results > >Wed 24 May > > >>Si Hill wrote: > >>I'm quite sure that Catch 22 will be > >>more than happy to put its seeding on the line against any of the > >>displaced > >>teams (no time-wasters please). > > >shock horror...no takers? > > >P > > > >Fri 26 May > > >Si Hill wrote: > >That was a question about Tour 2. Where have you been? We didn't play at > >Tour 2. > > >I'm afraid I can't actually remember who you are, but I think you must play > >for Hammerage (I guess that the one or two games that we get each year are > >pretty short). > > > The sympathy I had for Catch 22 after the weekend has completely evaporated > in the face of this witless and uncalled-for posturing. > > If you really want to put your seeding on the line (which you clearly don't) > then why don't you start T3 at 12th and work your way back up. > > shock horror...no takers? > > Si B > > ps - I don't know you either and no, I don't play for Hammerage. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue May 30 18:18:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4UHGZZ26644 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 May 2000 18:16:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4UHGXp26633 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 18:16:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4UHGVV16632 for ; Tue, 30 May 2000 18:16:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue May 30 10:16:07 2000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "ADAM BATCHELOR" Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:16:07 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Hammerage vs Headrush X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ADAM BATCHELOR wrote: >PS We benefited with a bye on our top 8 crossover but we did play and beat >Hamerage in our 5-8 semi final. But here's the "problem" with the whole thing, right? Headrush went from 10 to 7 without playing a game; Hammerage retained 6 by playing 11; Headrush then defeated Hammerage in the 6 v 7 game (I have no idea of whether this was close, or not) Who can tell what the last result would have been if it had been the second game of the day for both teams? I guess we'll never know. Chris Hughes, as Director of Competitions, _did_ try to rearrange the 5-12 teams on Saturday night*, but the effort didn't come off, due to the difficulties of communicating to all the necessary teams in the required time... The Official Decisions have been made. Some people are happier than others. We ALL need to work on the improvements for the future. Wayne Retter additional musings, entirely hypothetical: * and then Druids would have benefitted from the 5 v 12 bye, and then 8 [ironically: Headrush, if they'd won their first game...**] could have griped...! ** Would this have been against Red (?) - who they actually lost to... (!) --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com 07970-903420 (mobile) __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 09:20:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4V8H5G14537 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 09:17:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4V8Gtp14469 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 09:16:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from congo.cherwell.com (mailhost.cherwell.com [193.82.249.202]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4V8GsU17375 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 09:16:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.232]) by congo.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61953U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 09:16:41 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01bfcad8$8ceb97e0$e8f952c1@cherwell.com> Reply-To: "Paul Meaney" From: "Paul Meaney" To: Subject: finally - a reasonable response... Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 09:16:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > Hi Paul, > > > > Hi Nolan, thanks for your mail. I have a feeling that my suggestion is extreme but I do feel that there is merit in some possible middle ground. > > I was in total agreement with you until you got to the idea of penalising > > TDs. I don't think any TD would organise an event if they thought they > were > > likely to suffer the verbal onslaught and humiliation that Nancy has I don't think (IMHO) that Nancy has been humiliated - there has been a general consensus that the pitches were substandard for a Tour event and that something should be done. It is one of the things that you do when you step into the limelight - if you fall down, people will heckle! > > impossible for me to spend further time and/or risk vast sums of money, > > taking the Saffrons to court. SO, if the BUF were to undertake to punish > > TDs, they would have to support those TDs financially (as a minimum) when > > matters become litigious. > > I was there when they started playing football in our end zone one year and there was bugger all you could do about it. > > area was available for me.... I could go on!!!... > > IMHO - you did the right thing - you could not run a tournament to your own (personal) high standards and to the high standards set by the Open in previous years, so you did the right thing and abandoned it, rather than running a sub- standard imitation. The arrangement with Saffrons is one side to the coin and I concede to your obvious expertise in this. I'm coming from running 7 tournaments where I was on the phone practically daily, ensuring that nothing (I repeat *nothing*) was left to chance - and nothing went wrong! And yes, that also came down to phoning groundstaff to confirm the state of preparation of the fields. What I am really aiming at is the Tour as it is setting the standards for Ultimate competitions in the UK. If an individual tournament is badly run, it gains a bad rap and people stop coming (witness the attempt to revive the fiesta without Paradise). Tournaments that are well planned, well run and have excellent facilitites simply go from strength to strength (rotterdam, edinburgh beginners, ross). Unfortunately - that is where there is a danger of complacency (I am not alone in feeling that the value for money at Ross has diminished in recent years.) > > Personally, I can assure you that anyone at the BUF attempting to penalise > > me for this would be lucky to get away with just an earbashing! in fact > > they'd have to take ME to court to get the cash. > > again this was in the rant (a moment of madness). What I should have suggested was: say the BUF dictates a flat out fee of say £95 for each tour event. If the TD cannot provide showers at all, that fee drops to say £85. If there are showers but they are cold, that drops to say £90. And so on and so on. It is not penalising TD's per se, simply cutting back on the cost of an event for the subscriber should basic facilities not be available. Why pay more when you get less? > > Please consider this. > > > > I am more than happy to. All I wanted is to get a discussion going to see if such options are available and are achievable. You have pointed out an instance where reducing the entry fee based on the goalposts being shifted by the venue despite a priori agreements would prove difficult even deleterious for the TD. Would you have any objection to reposting your original note and this response to britdisc? cheers, Paul --- --- Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@cherwell.com Java Developer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: http://www.cherwell.com --- --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 10:38:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4V9aVU04912 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:36:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4V9aOp04884 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:36:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.ex.ac.uk (mercury.ex.ac.uk [144.173.6.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4V9aAU24197 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:36:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from tc201.ex.ac.uk [144.173.88.101] by mercury via SMTP (KAA1903797); Wed, 31 May 2000 10:36:05 +0100 (BST) From: David Paul Michael Hillier To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com, FlyTNT@egroups.com, nottuniultimate@egroups.com, Superfly@egroups.com, gareth_goo@hotmail.com, nap197@soton.ac.uk, Mark.Lewis@barclayscapital.com, chris_berry69@hotmail.com, Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk, mta99@bigfoot.com, KevinN@bigfoot.com, em98kkn@brunel.ac.uk, ca7910@bristol.ac.uk, s.m.morrish@dundee.ac.uk, morshy@hotmail.com, dundeeuni_shootingstars@hotmail.com, nadia.k@tangodesign.com, lindsayhart@hotmail.com, amber@ie-mail.co.uk, double_ohbehave@hotmail.com, M.R.D.Jones@plymouth.ac.uk, cen9prg@ECU-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK, zesinho_duf@yahoo.co.uk, kev@videosystem.co.uk, uriel-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: EXETER HAT!!!!!!!! URGENT Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:36:03 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e4V9aQp04896 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Exeter Hat is almost upon us. COULD ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO COME TO THE HAT PLEASE LET ME KNOW AN ACCURATE FIGURE OF PEOPLE YOU EXPECT TO BE BRINGING WITH YOU. And send me your postal address so i can send you a map to the site and some details of the schedule for the weekend. For those who haven't heard about it (and a little bit more info for those who have), it will be heald at duckes meadows in Exeter on the weekend of 17th/18th June. I can now finalise a few details for the weekend. 1.) The entrance fee will be £6 per person. Games will start at 10-10:30am going on till 6pm. 2.)There will be a Food tent for light snacks, soft drinks etc <<<<; Wed, 31 May 2000 11:52:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VAqhU04030 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 11:52:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from s9402225 (ut117151.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.117.151]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with SMTP id MAA15967; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:52:38 +0200 (METDST) From: "Hinderik de Keijzer" To: "EuroDisc" , "Britdisc" Cc: "Thomas Bles" , "Thijs Withaar" , "Maarten Beljaars" Subject: FW: Dutch Open Ultimate Outdoor Championship 2000 -be there- Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:55:19 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk New information has become available, so here's a (re)announcement: What? Dutch Open Ultimate Outdoor Championship 2000 When? 16-17 September 2000 Where? Enschede, The Netherlands Who? 24 teams, most of them Dutch, but we've some open spots for teams from abroad (by now, we think approx. 6) Get? Ultimate, dinner saturday, party, sleep in your tent, breakfast sunday, more ultimate, lunch, souvenir [NEW] Cost? fl. 175,-- p. team + fl. 25,-- p. player For info on registration, mail Thomas (mailto:T.J.Bles@student.utwente.nl) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 13:00:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VBwM017301 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:58:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VBwLp17290 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:58:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from wsa.wsatkins.co.uk (webshield.wsatkins.co.uk [193.117.23.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VBwKU11720 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:58:20 +0100 (BST) Received: by wsa.wsatkins.co.uk with SMTP from isgas04.wsatkins.co.uk (webshield.wsatkins.co.uk [10.0.0.3]) id NAA12019 for (3.2.3/3.2); Wed, 31 May 2000 13:02:01 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM ldn-post.wsatkins.co.uk BY isgas04.wsatkins.co.uk ; Wed May 31 12:56:31 2000 +0100 Received: by ldn-post with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 12:57:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87BA8D7748A8D111A18700A0C94C7EB8024EA218@ldn-post> From: WCRM08 To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: It was me!!!!! Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:57:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Britdiscers, Apologies for my original cowardly posting. Fortunately I was able to use the anonymity provided by my work address, which doesn't receive mail, to avoid having to delete scores of death threats from my inbox. I must also confess it wasn't me who wrote the incredibly funny piece, the last paragraph was my work though. We as a team agreed that it should be made available to a wider audience but no-one dared put their name to it so I posted it. Just a couple of replies to points raised in the aftermath. Damo, I would love to share the pints offered with the piece's author, I missed most of the party due to going to Safeway to buy a crate of Stella and having a very good Indian in town. Also Fosters out of plastic glasses isn't my idea of a perfect pint, I am also too young and wasn't drunk enough to appreciate the groovy tunes being played, so we sloped off to Si's van to drink and be serenaded by Tigger's guitar playing. Wayne Retter mentioned something about not being happy with paying for rubbish facilities and not going. This is something of a gamble, if you never go to any tournaments you don't waste any money but you don't get to play! I am quite happy to gamble a tenner on the quality of the pitches as it isn't much money and am perfectly happy not to get a refund. I do feel however that Nancy should get a refund from the venue though I am surprised it was booked in the first place. It was a gorgeous venue, shame about the playing surface. Derek Robbins posted some photos of what I presume (I couldn't be bothered to waste more work time checking) were golf courses, correct me if I'm wrong but golfers have the luxury of looking where they are putting their feet ( big ruts etc) and don't have to worry about laying out onto boulders, glass etc. Finally (sighs of relief all round), prizes, don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of choccie biccies, however, when I was chairman of Superfly, the SU were hugely impressed by the lovely silver plate we won. I doubt an empty box would have had the same effect on swaying their opinion that Ultimate is a joke sport, it also would have looked crap in the College trophy cabinet. Similarly an empty bottle of spirits wouldn't impress people quick to dismiss ultimate but it would improve team spirit and liven up the journey back to York. I'm sure 40p out of each teams entry fee could have been found to pop down the local bottle shop. These views are not my own blah, blah, blah. I am merely a puppet under the power of a higher and truly frightening megalomaniac. I was only trying to introduce some humour into British Ultimate, I didn't realise everyone was so boring or had such a crap sense of humour. I wasn't going to include my e-mail address but I'm quite looking forward to having a heated discussion with any stupid people out there with nothing better to do. Thankyou, Joe, Angels Joepietrzak@yahoo.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 14:29:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VDQrN10590 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:26:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VDQpp10585 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:26:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4VDQoU22247 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:26:50 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA19367; Wed, 31 May 2000 15:26:45 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <09F9A715BB72D011A6800000F822D24205C5DD40@gb-chw-mail2.charnwood.gb.astra.com> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: lost at tour 2 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:25:47 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone pick up an orange, umbro water bottle with a Warwick Bears keyring attached to it (to prevent losing it!) and 'Suze - BAF' written on it? If so it could well be mine. Suze BAF ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 15:04:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VDxr721374 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:59:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VDxop21358 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:59:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VDxoV20879 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:59:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12x929-0009SQ-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:59:45 +0100 Subject: Found at Tour 1 (prompted by "lost at tour 2") Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 15:03:09 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Which reminds me... Did anyone leave a pair of (prescription, not sun-) glasses on top of my car in the carpark at Swindon (Tour I)? I fortunately spotted them before I drove off on Sunday. And then forgot to mention it until now... Sorry I'm so late telling you this, but hope it's good news for someone in any case. If they're yours, mail me and I'll post them. Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 15:21:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VEJGM27722 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 15:19:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VEJEp27701 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 15:19:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from ns1.businessobjects.com (ns1.businessobjects.com [194.3.216.37]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VEJCV23067 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 15:19:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from exch-fra-lv01.businessobjects.com (exch-fra-lv01.businessobjects.com [194.3.216.70]) by ns1.businessobjects.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE467873 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:28:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by exch-fra-lv01.businessobjects.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:17:56 +0200 Message-ID: <372B9783CCE2D211BE1600805F599024013FFDD0@exch-gbr-ma01> From: Marije Schillern To: BritDisc Subject: Anyone found some blue insoles at Towcester? Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:14:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Did anyone find any blue, hard-plastic shoe orthotics near the food tents in Towcester? Marije From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 16:05:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VF3Zo11333 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:03:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VF3Op11242 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:03:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VF3NU07836 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:03:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from 97315250 (ts409352.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.18.131]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA18855 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 31 May 2000 16:04:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 16:04:15 +0100 (BST) From: jewell tara s <97315250@brookes.ac.uk> Message-Id: <200005311504.QAA18855@brookes.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Brookes Windows Client ver. 4.2b To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Another lost at Tour 2 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone pick up a white GB'96 vest at Tour 2? Tara From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 18:23:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VHLYM18064 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 18:21:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VHLVp18047 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 18:21:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f258.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4VHLUU22828 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 18:21:30 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 84794 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2000 17:21:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000531172123.84793.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.82.103.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2000 10:21:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.42] From: "Dave Hillier" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 17:21:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Exeter Hat is almost upon us. COULD ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WANTING TO COME TO THE HAT PLEASE LET ME KNOW AN ACCURATE FIGURE OF PEOPLE YOU EXPECT TO BE BRINGING WITH YOU. And send me your postal address so i can send you a map to the site and some details of the schedule for the weekend. For those who haven't heard about it (and a little bit more info for those who have), it will be heald at duckes meadows in Exeter on the weekend of 17th/18th June. I can now finalise a few details for the weekend. 1.) The entrance fee will be £6 per person. Games will start at 10-10:30am going on till 6pm. 2.)There will be a Food tent for light snacks, soft drinks etc <<<<; Wed, 31 May 2000 19:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VIu1U29727 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 19:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.71.157] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12xDeo-000513-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 31 May 2000 19:55:58 +0100 Message-ID: <007501bfcb32$401b5680$9d478cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" References: <392997D7.F83335C1@york.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Tour 2 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:40:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jamie > Amen, but wasn't there a regionals event in Towcester during February? > Surely someone noticed the condition of the pitches then. I hardly think > someone went around putting bricks just below the surface between then > and the weekend!! Sarcasm won't help the situation- I feel bad enough about the ptiches already. As for February- when is the last time you played outdoors in February???!!! The regional event was an INDOOR event at another site. > Enough moaning from me, I'm sure there are plenty of people who fared > worse over the weekend. Yes- enough moaning- find a large enough site of your own and DO SOMETHING about the pitches probelm. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 21:07:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VK0UB19728 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 21:00:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VK0Qp19702 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 21:00:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from trolley.tesco.net (trolley.tesco.net [194.73.73.166]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VK0KU04102 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 21:00:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.27.172] (helo=ianstebb) by trolley.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12xEf3-0000Ms-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 31 May 2000 21:00:17 +0100 Message-ID: <01c601bfcb3b$3c39e780$f11fac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Fw: Tour 2 !? Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:02:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Noncing Stropbaärk Very nice- personal insults always make me feel good. Especially since I feel I've taken the criticism in the spirit it was meant- even some of the sniping attacks. Yes there were problems- yes I'm sorry. I was let down, and so I let all of you down. I can't go back and change it. I'll be awaiting your public apology on Britdisc. Humor is one thing- intelligent discussion another-being nasty is yet another. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 22:07:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VL5nP03460 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:05:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VL5lp03453 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:05:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtcmta04.totalserve.net ([213.27.0.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VL5lU08136 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:05:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from default ([213.27.43.157]) by mtcmta04.totalserve.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FVFZVO03.28O for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 21:04:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01bfcb43$57db4b20$9d2b1bd5@default> From: "Alastair Findlay" To: Subject: pick up at cam 2000 Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 22:01:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFCB4B.B8932520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFCB4B.B8932520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know it's a longshot, but any body looking for a male pickup for = this weekend. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFCB4B.B8932520-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 31 22:52:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e4VLoXN11055 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:50:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e4VLoVp11050 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:50:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f277.hotmail.com [216.32.180.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e4VLoUU10906 for ; Wed, 31 May 2000 22:50:30 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3528 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2000 21:50:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000531215023.3527.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.198.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2000 14:50:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.198.80] From: "Melanie Barlow" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Anybody living in/near Reading keen to practise during the week? Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 07:50:23 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Surely there is someone.. yes? I hope so, because I'd like some between-tourneys throws/games (and you might too). Probably Mon, Tue or Wed. Hey, and if there are more than 2 of us, then we really ought to set up an e-group of our own, I think. Hmm.. and with 4 of us, we can play 'double-disc'. But if there are 5 - wow, 5! - we can play half a 5-a-side game... or something... (I'll think about it). Melanie ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 1 08:49:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e517lPa18113 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:47:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e517lNp18106 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:47:23 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:45:49 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Nancy Stebbing" Subject: Re: Tour 2 results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hannah- > How did it come about that such an un suitable venue was selected? > Even if the pitchs had been rolled, cut and watered I doubt that the ridges all the way through the fields would have been improved on. The venue was inspected three times- each time after a week's worth of rain. As you played on Sunday- I'm sure you can see how the surface changes with just a little rain. Towcester racecourse is a well respected venue and conference centre- and when they said the pitches would be rolled several times and cut- I beleived them. With the need for large venues- you have a couple of choices: 1. Use only venues you have used before. Hasn't been working too well so far. 2. Use only venues that are specifically sports venues- and try to find space between the football, cricket and baseball seasons/leagues. Again- not working too well so far. 3. Find a new venue with a good reputation and see what they can do. Obviously a problem this time, but may work in the future. If you have any other suggestions or venues to use, I'm sure the U8 committee would be happy for you (and anyone else) to pitch in and organize somehting yourself. > I realise that it is difficult to find good venues (as well as people to run tournaments), but I am sure we can do better than this! Be my guest.... > ps Can we have more cones next time... Yeah- sorry about that- with the number of BUFe vents rising, the cones were in several different parts of the country, and didn't all arrive in time for the start. I did my best to get them out as soon as I got them. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 1 09:11:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e518AL821985 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:10:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e518AKp21980 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:10:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e518AJV23763 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:10:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id JAA18801 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:10:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by canna; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:10:15 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:10:14 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Recipts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, sorry to bother all of you, Chris, I still need a recipt to tour I Nancy, I need recipts for buf deposits for tour I, III and IV. I don't know if you want to wait to send the one for tour IV. I've now recieved a recipt from Marv for tour III so were in. It's really important that I get these. My own personal money is at stake. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo 1f2 44 Warrender Pk Rd Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 1 10:37:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e519Zik09875 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:35:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e519Zgp09859 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:35:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from fizzle.bomb.co.uk (root@fizzle.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e519ZfV05593 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:35:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from pacino (ip190.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.190]) by fizzle.bomb.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e519Zfb11863 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:35:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200006010935.e519Zfb11863@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:35:56 +0100 To: From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Nolan's Contract Point In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I think this is a great idea. Is there some way that TDs can book venues etc.. through the BUF (or a company set up for the purpose) and a standard legal contract? Are there any lawyers out there? Barry At 03:26 PM 5/30/00 +0100, Andy Catlin wrote: >Regarding Nolan's point about setting up specific contracts and then various >parties not delivering - my initial suggestion would be for a TD to go for >non-payment or compensation for breach of contract. I work in a performing >arts venue and if/when suppliers don't deliver (whether that be artists, >printers, etc), we usually take this course of action. > >The implications for Ultimate and TDs are that you would normally have to go >through the whole invoice/"Are you a legitimate company?" type deal, so that >you only pay after the event or a percentage upfront. > >Is it not possible for the BUF to either take on this responsibility or >provide a sample/template of a legally binding contract for teams/TDs to use >which could be amended with a specific guarantee of listed services? We all >know how much major tournament fees can add up to, so to spend a few quid on >nailing down the worst case scenario that seems to happen quite a lot >doesn't seem to be a hardship. > >Thoughts, suggestions, etc to the usual place... > >Candy >Falling Skies, Aberdeen > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 1 20:03:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e51J0Qt01924 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:00:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e51J0Op01914 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:00:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e51J0JV12637 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:00:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19645 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:00:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from B62A-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b62a-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.120.152]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e51J0DB04836 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:00:13 +0100 (BST) From: Kevin Blanch Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: For Dora Kemp Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:59:55 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e51J0Op01916 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yet another apology to all at BD for clogging up their accounts. Dora Skunks are entering 2 teams into Southampton and I need to pay the neccessary £15 BUF deposit for the extra team. Could you please tell me where to post the cheque to so that we don't incurr a penalty. Cheers Kevin (Skunks) ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 1 21:51:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e51Knj620502 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:49:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e51Knfp20491 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:49:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e51KnfV18949 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:49:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12xbuK-000Lj2-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:49:39 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:00:53 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Recipts References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thu, 1 Jun 2000, by Paul Eastman ; Subject: Recipts >Nancy, I need recipts for buf deposits for tour I, III and IV. I don't >know if you want to wait to send the one for tour IV. I've now recieved a >recipt from Marv for tour III so were in. Just so you all know, this sort of request should actually be to Dora... 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X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Women wanted Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are there any women out there who want to play in the coed tour but don't have a team? Well, your wanting is at an end. SlipDisc are short of a few women and WE WANT YOU to play for Coed t.II and t.III. For fun and frolics with a bit of plastic, contact me on: mta99@bigfoot.com 07720 142 720 if you fancy it. *come-on* Mal. The Mighty (slip)Disc. mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 2 09:29:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e528QCc18225 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:26:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e528Q3p18192 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:26:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e528Q2V22259 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:26:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id JAA01393; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:25:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:26:00 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:23:16 +0100 From: "Olivier Cottray" To: Cc: Subject: Re: looking for a league in dublin.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e528QBp18217 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi britdisc- can anybody help fiona out? (fiona, britdisc is the british mailing list for ultimate; someone should be able to help...) cheers- olivier >>> 06/01/00 04:44PM >>> Hello, I just arrived in Dublin from Canada (sans disc) and am looking for a summer ultimate league. I know the game has not really taken off here, but I figure there must be some teams in the city. You seem to be the closest league around. Do you know if there are any teams in Dublin or how I could get in touch with them? Thanks, Fiona Boylan Tel: 203-7782 Mobile: 087 618-2305 **************************************************************** The information transmitted in this email is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission,dissemination,reliance upon or other use of, this information by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited.If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material. This message has been swept by Anti-Virus software **************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 2 13:25:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e52CNqu23512 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:23:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e52CNop23496 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:23:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e52CNKV20421 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:23:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from two-birds.demon.co.uk ([193.237.83.167] helo=vulture.bird.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12xqTs-0007vq-4c for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:23:16 +0100 Received: by VULTURE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:11:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: Deirdre Mahon To: "Britdisc (Email List) (E-mail)" Subject: Cambridge - any free, available and keen women wanting to pick up ? Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:11:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Women out there ....... Angels are looking for women to pick up with us for Cambridge co-ed this weekend. A number of our usual "Angelles" are sadly injured. Anyone interested can call me on 0207 905 6249 before 5.30pm today or on 0976 736 875 after 5.30pm. Thanks Deirdre Deirdre Mahon Direct Line: 020 7 905 6249 Fax: 020 7 415 6111 http://www.twobirds.com The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. 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A full list of partners is available on request From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 2 17:57:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e52Gsl203811 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:54:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e52Gsjp03804 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:54:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e52GsdU22912 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:54:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12xuiT-0006ZR-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:54:37 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12xuiT-0001RD-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:54:37 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Coed Cam 2000 details Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 17:54:37 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks the website http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/coedcam/ has maps, directions, seedings, and the tournament schedule on it. Here is a quick reminder of the main points: 1) Captains meeting 9.30, and first game at 9.45 prompt. We must run every game on time because the showers get locked up at 6pm. 2) All teams are likely to have four games. First games will be as follows, UNLESS ANY TEAM WITHDRAWS. KUPA v MMJ2 Hannah's team v Calimocho MMJ1 v Mud Culture SB1 v Angels Red v Flatball Project 3) Every point should be played with 3/4 gender split. (Offence chooses) 4) Directions: see the web page, but the keywords are ABBEY POOL. Get there, and you are done. A good visual landmark is the Cambridge United football ground on the east of cambridge. Our fields are just south of that ground, which has four big spotlights. The airport is just to the east. By car, the only way to Abbey Pool is from Newmarket road. 5) I inspected the fields today, and all four fields are pretty good. There are a few rough spots owing to football goals, but I think a good job has been done of smoothing them over. We apologise that two games on saturday will need to be played on an extra fifth field which we're throwing together at the last minute (because of the shower problem mentioned above). The grass is short and the surface is damp and firm. 6) Food will be laid on by GB women's squad. 7) If you are coming on Friday tonight, then come and join a gathering at the Hogshead pub on parkers piece in the middle of town. See you soon, David (for Alexa and Olivier) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 2 20:35:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e52JXXf02294 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:33:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e52JXWp02285 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:33:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e52JXVV07724 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:33:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC205DC0072; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:33:52 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.148.224] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC068790150; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:33:26 +0100 Message-ID: <005601bfccca$3e9d0080$e09443d4@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: References: <20000602073711.11091.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> Subject: Re: Women wanted (& others) Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:37:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Crickey - You mean we have to have women on the team for this co-ed lark? Looks like this mixed tour idea is working already! Ben Red ----- Original Message ----- From: M Allen. To: Sent: 02 June 2000 08:37 Subject: Women wanted > Are there any women out there who want to play in the coed tour but don't have a team? > Well, your wanting is at an end. > SlipDisc are short of a few women and WE WANT YOU to play for Coed t.II and t.III. > > For fun and frolics with a bit of plastic, contact me on: > mta99@bigfoot.com > 07720 142 720 > > if you fancy it. > > *come-on* Mal. > The Mighty (slip)Disc. > > mta99@bigfoot.com > 0121 458 1607 > 07720 142 720 > ___________________________________________ > It's amazing what happens when you breathe. > www.breathe.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jun 3 11:56:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e53As3c06008 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:54:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e53Arvp05987 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:53:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.pds.libertysurf.fr (mail.libertysurf.net [213.36.80.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e53ArvV06882 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 11:53:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from crmqtsve (213.36.7.90) by mail.pds.libertysurf.fr (5.0.045) id 392A917300032661; Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:53:44 +0200 Message-ID: <001301bfcc82$b7d3f780$5a0724d5@crmqtsve> Reply-To: "Toby Green" From: "Toby Green" To: , , Cc: Subject: US$2,000 prize fund at British Open! Be there! - July 22/23 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:01:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BFCC92.BC12BF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BFCC92.BC12BF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On behalf of the British Disc Golf Association and by kind permission of = The Green Family and with the generous support of Leah Healthcare,=20 we are pleased to invite you to . . . Double Two & 2000!!=20 22nd British Open Disc Golf Championship July 22nd (and 23rd) 2000 Now! With Double Chain Baskets.. .. over Two Separate 18-pole Courses!! & Prize Fund over US$2000!! Playing Schedule Friday 21st July - Practice and Informal Doubles. Saturday 22nd July - Registration closes at 9.30 am. Players' Meeting at = 9.45 am. Two rounds of 18 holes. 7 pm - DIYBBQ We provide the fire, you bring your own food.=20 Cheap beer on offer! Sunday 23rd July - Round 3 starts at 8.30 am. Semis (top 20) and = Finals/play-offs (top 5/next 5) from 1pm. Tournament and Green Fees Open, Women & Masters =A310.00* (=A38.00*unwaged) Amateurs =A34.00 Juniors =A35.00* (*60% of these fees are re-cycled to players via the Prize Fund, 40% = pays for tournament costs.) Green Fees =A37.00(=A36.00 unwaged)(=A30.00 Juniors) (Green fees are payable by all players, proceeds go to pay for course = development and upkeep.) Registration Please register in advance by email to: toby.green@libertysurf.fr or = Toby Green, 46 rue de Dunkerque, 75009 Paris, France.=20 Send no money now - all fees will be collected at Players' Registration. = Those registering on the day pay =A33.00 supplement! Where's the tournament? Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster, Dorset, UK (Only use these numbers after July 14th +44 1308 863566 or 862366)=20 Before July 14th call +33 1 40 16 14 11 Accommodation Camping on site - =A32.00 per person per night Bed & Breakfast - from =A315 a night in the surrounding area. Summer House. Bad news - I'm staying there with my family! Magic's Mansion - Will be tournament central as last year. Volunteers There are 36 new baskets to be planted . . . the usual (generous) terms = apply. Prize Fund Sponsor (huge applause) Leah Healthcare Services, www.leah.co.uk Toby Green 46 rue de Dunkerque 75009 Paris=20 France Phone: +33 1 40 16 14 11 Fax: +33 1 40 16 11 86 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BFCC92.BC12BF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On behalf of the British Disc Golf Association and by kind = permission=20 of
The Green Family and with the generous support of Leah=20 Healthcare,
we are pleased to invite you to . . = .

Double Two & 2000!!
22nd British Open Disc Golf=20 Championship
July 22nd (and 23rd) 2000

Now! With Double Chain Baskets..
.. over Two = Separate=20 18-pole Courses!!
& Prize Fund over US$2000!!

Playing Schedule

Friday 21st July - Practice and Informal Doubles.

Saturday 22nd July - = Registration=20 closes at 9.30 am. Players' Meeting at 9.45 am. Two rounds of 18=20 holes.
7 pm - DIYBBQ We provide the fire, you bring your own = food.=20
Cheap beer on offer!

Sunday 23rd July - Round 3 starts at 8.30 am. Semis = (top=20 20) and Finals/play-offs (top 5/next 5) from 1pm.

Tournament and Green Fees

Open, Women & Masters =A310.00* (=A38.00*unwaged)
Amateurs=20 =A34.00
Juniors =A35.00*
(*60% of these fees are re-cycled to = players via the=20 Prize Fund, 40% pays for tournament costs.)

Green Fees =A37.00(=A36.00 unwaged)(=A30.00 Juniors)
(Green = fees are payable=20 by all players, proceeds go to pay for course development and = upkeep.)

Registration
Please register in advance by email to: toby.green@libertysurf.fr=20 or Toby Green, 46 rue de Dunkerque, 75009 Paris, France.
Send no = money now -=20 all fees will be collected at Players' Registration.

Those registering on the day pay =A33.00 supplement!

Where's the tournament?
Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster, Dorset,=20 UK
(Only use these numbers after July 14th +44 1308 863566 or 862366) =
Before July 14th call +33 1 40 16 14 11

Accommodation
Camping on site - =A32.00 per person per=20 night
Bed & Breakfast - from =A315 a night in the = surrounding=20 area.
Summer House. Bad news - I'm staying there with my=20 family!
Magic's Mansion - Will be=20 tournament central as last year.

Volunteers
There are 36 new baskets to be planted . . . the = usual=20 (generous) terms apply.

Prize Fund Sponsor (huge applause)
Leah Healthcare Services,=20 www.leah.co.uk

Toby Green
46 rue de Dunkerque
75009 Paris =
France
Phone: +33 1=20 40 16 14 11
Fax: +33 1 40 16 11 86
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BFCC92.BC12BF60-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 4 23:55:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e54MqeR03458 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:52:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e54Mqcp03452 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:52:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e54MqbU05562 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:52:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12yjFy-0006HQ-00; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 23:52:34 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12yjFy-000215-00; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:52:34 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: cambridge coed results Cc: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:52:34 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here are the results (from memory - let me know if I made any errors) 1. Wage 2. Chevron A F 3. KUPA 4. Blue Arse Flies 5. Drop Dead Gorgeous 6. Mild Mannered Janitors 7. Calimocho 8. Strange Blue 9. Mud Culture (plate) 10. Red 11. Flatball project 12. Angels 13. More Mild Mannered Janitors 14. The Cambridge Two Spirit og the Game: KUPA (of) Thankyou to all the teams for coming, and for coming on time on Saturday. See you in Leeds, David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 5 07:50:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e556l3C18766 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e556l2p18761 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e556l2V29586 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA29688 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200006050647.HAA29688@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 10th June 2000 GB Training (1 day) @ Milton Keynes (TBC) [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Dutch Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Rotterdam, The Netherlands [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 274 9097 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 5 08:52:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e557pFl26471 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:51:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e557pEp26461 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:51:14 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:50:00 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Delbert" Subject: Somerset/Avon based players Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Delbert" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Somerset/Avon based players Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:50:20 +0100 Anyone, I'm attempting to set up a Yeovil based club. I have approximately 16 players who are mainly beginners and if there are any Somerset/Avon based players who would be able to 'ahem' contribute to a mid week practice please get in touch Many thanks Del UTI From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 5 09:57:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e558tMX09377 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:55:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e558tHp09338 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:55:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e558tHU05304 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:55:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id JAA27620; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:55:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 09:55:21 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 09:55:07 +0100 From: "Olivier Cottray" To: , Subject: lost-and-found and other things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e558tIp09341 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi all- thanks to every one again for coming down and giving british co-ed such a good start; and to Wage for setting the level of play at such 'inspiwing' heights- a couple thanks that i completely forgot to metion at the presentation ceremony yesterday (coz i'm crap at public speaking and always forget three quarters of what i meant to say); to all in cambridge who helped out and offered floor and garden-space at such short notice (!) and to GB women for the scrumpcious foodage. and also BIG thanks to Dave MacKay for running the weekend itself so smoothly- ok; nuff of that- here's a list of the more noteable unclaimed lost-and-found items; let me know if they sound familiar and we'll bring them along to leeds- Inflatable carry-mat Red water bottle black Nike top a whole bunch of short and long-sleeve t-shirts (RIZU, Guiness, Mondex....) 4 discs (Mud Bowl, Mad Cows (two of those), Kerry's Picnic disc) that's about it- bye for now- alexa and olivier From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 5 23:53:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e55MpSP04150 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:51:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e55MpQp04139 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:51:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e55MpQU26281 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:51:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12z5iN-0001xM-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:51:24 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:20:08 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: cambridge coed results References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sun, 4 Jun 2000, by David J.C. MacKay; Subject: cambridge coed results >Thankyou to all the teams for coming, and "Thank You" to Strange Blue, not only the front-line of Dave, Olivier and Alexa, but also to all those people that provided us with overnight accommodation. It's taken me 10 years to get around to attending an Ultimate tournament in Cambridge, and I now fully intend to do it again. Thanks also to Nancy, for putting her neck on the block to get an organised CoEd (sorry, Mixed!) season together - looks like it'll be a good one! Wayne Drop Dead Gorgeous ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 6 02:21:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e561HoJ02035 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:17:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e561Hnp02029 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:17:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.clw.org (mail.clw.org [209.8.25.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e561HmU04138 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:17:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from clw.clw.org ([209.8.25.211]) by mail.clw.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-57746U100L2S100V35) with ESMTP id org for ; Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:39:44 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20000605194639.00d75d50@mail.clw.org> X-Sender: syoung@mail.clw.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 19:48:38 -0400 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Stephen Young Subject: Re: cambridge coed results In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Wayne >Drop Dead Gorgeous ?!? Stephen formerly Gun, permanently Happy Stephen Young, Deputy Director Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505 Washington DC 20002 ph: 202-546-0795 ext. 102; fax: 202-546-7970 website: From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 6 10:33:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e569T2U03384 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:29:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e569T0p03374 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e569SxU07152 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:28:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.66.19] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12zFf8-0002jo-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:28:42 +0100 Message-ID: <004901bfcf9a$01cd2cc0$13428cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed rosters Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:01:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Through my own fault (because I didn't get the roster forms out with the team info packs) I am missing alot of rosters from this weekend. All players who wish to play at Nationals must have played with that team once suring the Mixed Series. As I am missing rosters- I have no record of players playing for those teams, and they therefore do not currently qualify. BUT- If the team contacts can get me their rosters by next Monday, then I'll havr a record of those players, and they WILL qualify for Nationals. So I need the rosters from the following teams: Wage Chevron A F Drop Dead Gorgeous Mild Mannered Janitors Calimocho Red Angels More Mild Mannered Janitors The Cambridge Two I need AT LEAST the names of your players. Addresses (snail mail and email) would also be helpful, as there will be a couple of simple newsletters put out during the series. Send them via email (nancy.stebbing@tesco.net) or to 10 Buckingham Road, Brackley, Northants, NN13 7HH nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 6 10:33:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e569SqL03336 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:28:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e569Skp03286 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:28:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e569SkU07104 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:28:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.66.19] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12zFf6-0002jo-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:28:40 +0100 Message-ID: <004801bfcf9a$00c9c680$13428cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed Series standings Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:55:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk First- a big thanks to those Cambridge folks, especially Olivier and Alexa, for hosting such a fine event. Below are the current points totals for the Mixed Series 2000. To qualify for nationals, teams must have earned 20 points, 10 of which must have been earned at a tournament. Nationals seeding will be based on point totals- but don't worry, every team will have an opportunity to win Nationals (ie there will be no A and B bracket as there is at Open Nationals). Wage 60 points Chevron A F 50 KUPA 42 Blue Arse Flies 35 Drop Dead Gorgeous 29 Mild Mannered Janitors 24 Calimocho 20 Strange Blue 18 (includes one point for new player) Mud Culture 16 (includes one point for new player) Red 14 Flatball project 12 (includes two points for new players) Angels 10 More Mild Mannered Janitors 10 The Cambridge Two 10 See you in Leeds- nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 6 12:04:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e56Ax9q00307 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:59:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e56Awup00216 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:58:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.chorleys.co.uk (gate-isdn.chorleys.co.uk [194.152.72.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e56AwnV10371 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:58:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.55] (helo=chorpcsrv001.localnet) by gate-isdn.chorleys.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12zH3r-0006VQ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:58:19 +0100 Received: by chorpcsrv001.localnet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:54:59 +0100 Message-ID: <9B3B6FF16FBCD211BEF10090273C2730623EF3@chorpcsrv001.localnet> From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Hong Kong Sevens Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:54:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e56Awup00227 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following teams have entered HK7's. BAF Disciples Chevron Hammerage Jesters Pookas Ro-sham-bo& belles Sneeekys Superfly Wage MMJ More MMJ This leaves space for four teams - so whoever's not on the list and wants to play - best be quick. £85 cheques payable to Mild Mannered Janitors send to MMJ 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Arun Janitors Waddington Chorleys Ltd Manston Lane Cross Gates Leeds LS15 8AH www: www.chorleys.co.uk Tel. +44 (0)113 225 5346 Fax. +44 (0)113 217 1576 [Important. This email is intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If this has come to you in error you must take no action based on it, nor must you copy or show it to anyone; please telephone us immediately.] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 7 09:25:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e578MZw16068 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:22:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e578MXp16060 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:22:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from latimer.mail.easynet.net (latimer.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e578MXU01581 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:22:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from default (tnt-18-80.easynet.co.uk [212.134.224.80]) by latimer.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D13205382F for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2000 09:22:28 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000201bfd058$b58bca00$50e086d4@default> Reply-To: "Benjamin Whenlock" From: "Benjamin Whenlock" To: Subject: BIG BREAKFAST Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:39:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone catch the big breakfast at 7.37am this morning??? Johnny Vaughn calling Frisbee an activity he would do on a sunny day to relax!!!! If thats not publicity I dont know what is!!! All the best Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 8 01:15:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e580Cq826248 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:12:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e580Cpp26242 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:12:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from web4302.mail.yahoo.com (web4302.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e580CoU04961 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:12:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000608001239.11550.qmail@web4302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.72.70.194] by web4302.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 08 Jun 2000 01:12:39 BST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:12:39 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Any=20Lurker?= Subject: LURKERS PRACTICE - CROYDON To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyones unfortunate enough to be marooned in the arse-end of South (Sarf) London, or anywhere nearby, on a Wednesday night, there is still a Lurkers practice in Wandle Park. All Welcome. (e-mail: lurkers_flying_disc@yahoo.com) or howard@lurker.demon.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 8 09:49:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e588lTx19028 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:47:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e588lQp19012 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:47:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e588lLU09546 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:47:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06267 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:47:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from B58B-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b58b-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.122.195]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e588lGB26879 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:47:16 +0100 (BST) From: marv Reply-To: nap197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 3; Update Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:49:04 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We now have the 32 entrants for Tour 3, Southampton. Tournament details we be in the post to team contacts within the next week. The teams entered, in no particular order: BAF BAF Co-ed Point Blank Fussion Dough Boy Strange Blue Fluid Druids GB Juniors Skunks Skunks2 GB Women (GBW) Jedi Red DSM UTI Ro Sham Bo Hammerage Night Fever Chevron Sharks Yorkie Bar Kids Catch 22 Albatross Mohawks MMJ More MMJ Mud Culture Headrush Angels Slipdisc Swamp Donkeys Superfly See you all at the tournament marv ---------------------- marv nap197@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 8 18:03:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e58H0qf04382 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:00:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e58H0pp04377 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:00:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e58H0os11992 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:00:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 8 Jun 100 18:00:45 GMT+0001 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 8 Jun 100 18:00:38 GMT+0001 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:00:37 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: 6th Quarry Park Open X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <7860353FB1@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, The 6th Quarry Park Open takes place on June 17-18th, just outside Leamington Spa. Fifteen acres of land beside the river Avon were bought and landscaped specifically for Disc Golf and the course gets more beautiful and challenging each year. The tournament includes 2 rounds of 18 holes on Saturday and rounds of 18 and 12 on Sunday, with a 6 hole final for the top open and amateur players. New players are welcome to attend and can choose to play just one day. The entry is 12 pounds with one pound off for pre-registration, another pound off for BDGA members, 2 pounds off for unwaged. Half the amounts for one day rate. Entry includes free soft drinks and sandwiches on both days. Weather permitting there will be a barbecue on Saturday evening. Cheques payable to D.J.Robins at 50 Spring Lane, Kenilworth, Warwickshire, CV8 2HD. You can register on the day from 9.15 to 9.45 a.m. I'm off to the Dutch Open this weekend but get in touch next week via e-mail or home telephone for further details (01926 864136) Quarry Park web site is at http://home.freeuk.net/discgolf Del *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 02476 528900 University of Warwick | | Fax 02476 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 8 21:17:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e58KEgf09538 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:14:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e58KEfp09530 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:14:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe20.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.124]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e58KEeY02551 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:14:40 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 32903 invoked by uid 65534); 8 Jun 2000 20:14:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000608201432.32902.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [62.125.147.246] From: "Kerry" To: Subject: code of conduct Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:43:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD157.E46EF4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD157.E46EF4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help, I'm updating picnic's code of conduct and it's all sounding a bit dull = and desperately needs jazzing up! 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD157.E46EF4A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 08:18:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e597GJL28443 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:16:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e597GIp28437 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:16:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e597GHs21324 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:16:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 15294 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jun 2000 07:16:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20000609071612.15293.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.36.171.210] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:16:12 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:16:12 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?andy=20lucey?= Subject: quarry park golf To: britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Welcome all to the ..... The 6th Quarry Park Open .. which takes place on 17-18th June. There will be two rounds of 18 on Saturday, followed by the AGM (or play some doubles if you prefer) on the course, then weather permitting a barbecue. Sunday there will be rounds of 18 and 12 followed by a 6 hole final for open and amateur divisions. Full price 12 pounds Less 1 for BDGA members Less 1 for Pre-paid Less 2 for Unwaged If you wish to play one day only then half price Cheques payable to D.J.Robins at 50 Spring Lane, Kenilworth, Warwickshire, CV8 2HD. Entry fee includes soft drinks and sandwiches both days. There will be prizes for Closest to Pin and longest putt and of course the first disc to be lost (and not recovered by end of play) in the Avon. Camping is free. Registration is from 9.15 to 9.45 on Saturday. Players meeting 10.00 - be there in good time for a good time!! Any queries - e-mail me or telephone on 01926 864136 (don't call until Monday as I'll be at the Dutch Open). Mobile on Friday and Saturday 0780 8100 380. See y'all there! Derek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 10:48:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e599ho726340 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:43:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e599hnp26331 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:43:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e599hmY21174 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:43:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.haca.co.uk ([195.147.2.95] helo=hacant01.haca.co.uk) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 130LKD-0000kg-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:43:37 +0100 Received: by hacant01.haca.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:17:48 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jamie Helmer To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Spare room Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:17:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all If anyone is looking for accomodation in London get in touch because I have a spare room available now. Home tel: 020 7928 0974 Jamie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 16:15:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e59FBH500351 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:11:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e59FBEp00341 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f290.hotmail.com [209.185.130.229]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e59FBCY17681 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:11:12 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 33891 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2000 15:11:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20000609151103.33890.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.159.248.35 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:11:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [130.159.248.35] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, substance-abuse@egroups.com Cc: robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, dkatuni@hotmail.com, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk, gerard.lee@strath.ac.uk, sara.hill@strath.ac.uk, habi@mindless.com, jen_helm@hotmail.com, glendobson@DUCKER.co.uk, superclarke@hotmail.com, teamfling@egroups.com, mudculture@egroups.com Subject: Glastonbury 2000 - the Gunslinger Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:11:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It's going to get wild out west ... The freedom fighting posse of Substance Abuse welcome you to a venue for madness, memory loss, and merriment- to be held on what will be affectionately remembered as lush, Glastonbury cricket grounds. Brand yourself so you remember the dates of September 9-10 (and following the event, your identity). We're offering on site saloon/party, camping, outhouses, saloon, pitches(?) and whiskey bar (some assembly required- you bring your liver, we'll supply the pickling juice). Yehaw! We're looking for (16 teams of) outlaws and bounty hunters, lone rangers and high planes drifters, the bad and the ugly (the good are all dead by now anyway). There's only one lawman in this town and there's only one law: if they move....kill 'em. The Sherrif's mighty fast on the trigger (but he takes his time on the draw). Send him your money - cheques (80 GBP/team) to: Sheriff Adam Milner Top Fold Farm Haigh Moor Rd Tingley Leeds WF3 1EJ If you've ever fancied being a contender, this is your chance. Strap on your gun. Take a shot. Take another. And see us on Boot Hill, in Glastonbury. Enquiries to substance-abuse@egroups.com. Rock on. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 16:38:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e59FZmA06795 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e59FZkp06783 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:35:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e59FZjY21136 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:35:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Fri Jun 9 08:35:27 2000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 15:35:27 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Ross on Wye Champions Trophy X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Who has it? Can you get it back to me, soon? Then I can do the engraving, etc. Cheers Wayne Fluid Druids, hosts of Ross on Wye 2000 (more info next week) --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com 01737-273611 (office) 07970-903420 (mobile) __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 17:05:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e59G39112904 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:03:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e59G37p12896 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:03:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e59G32R13924 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:03:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk (srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk [129.215.136.240]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA23974 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:02:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from BIO-SRV0/SpoolDir by srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 9 Jun 00 17:02:57 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by BIO-SRV0 (Mercury 1.44); 9 Jun 00 17:02:57 +0000 From: "James McDonald" Organization: Biological Sciences To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:02:51 +0000 Subject: Lost cap Reply-to: James.McDonald@ed.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <2AAFDED02E9@srv0.bio.ed.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to clog Britdisc, But did anyone pick up a red WUCC'99 cap at Cam2000 on the Sunday - I've only just realised I've lost it, and would love to get it back (definite beer reward at Tour3). Cheers, Jim From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 18:01:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e59Gwwg24293 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:58:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e59Gwup24286 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:58:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h011.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.111]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e59GwpY00684 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:58:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 18508 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2000 17:59:38 +0100 Date: 9 Jun 2000 17:59:38 +0100 Message-ID: <20000609165938.18507.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 9 Jun 2000 16:59:38 GMT Received: from [147.188.104.132] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 09 Jun 2000 17:59:38 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Summer in Birmingham Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone coming to Birmingham in the Summer is welcome to come along to SlipDisc practices. We play twice a week close to the Uni at Metchley Park Lane playing fields (Harbourne, behind the Queen Elizabeth hospital) on Mondays and Thursdays 6pm onwards. Come along. Its not all curries. Mal. SlipDisc slipdisc@egroups.com mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 9 19:18:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e59IDlf09555 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:13:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e59IDjp09548 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:13:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f155.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.155]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e59IDeR23397 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:13:40 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 9421 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jun 2000 18:13:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000609181327.9420.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 150.237.176.21 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Jun 2000 11:13:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [150.237.176.21] From: "Robbie Lucas" To: PMA97JF@sheffield.ac.uk, ultimate@sheffield.ac.uk, deep_south_mentality@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate in Sheffield Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:13:27 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone staying in Sheffield over the summer or, like myself, returning home from Uni want to get together for games or maybe just a chuck around on a regular basis over the summer. Let me know. Robbie Lucas Hulltimate - President E-mail: discorob21@hotmail.com Tel: 0114 248 0221 Mobile: 07941 179016 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 11 12:09:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5BB6cl21170 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:06:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5BB6bp21159 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:06:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5BB6aR17184 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:06:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id MAA13134; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:06:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by canna; Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:06:30 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:06:29 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Eastman Reply-To: Paul Eastman To: britdisc cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ro-Sham-Bo is proud to present to you The 9th Annual Edinburgh Beginners Tournament --------------------------------------------- 11/12 November 2000 Meadowbank Sports Centre This year the Edinburgh Beginners tournament again promises to be the biggest and best weekend of the ultimate calender. Again we are able to provide a 32 team tournament and the best party of the year. The tournament will only be open to players with less than three (3) months experiance and one experianced player at any point. Places will be allocated on a first come first served basis,with priority however being given to first teams. Although this is very early warning we had to turn away 10 or so teams last year so the quicker the better. We will not be accepting any money after Friday 27th october (2 weeks prior to the tournament). The cost will be the same as last year at 90GBP per team. For this you will get 3 very good halls(at some points 4 pitches), a HUGE party, accomodation with Edinburgh players, and one of the best run tournies of the year. Cheques can be made payable to EUUFC and sent to Edinburgh Beginners c/o Paul Eastman Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Rd Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH any queries, please e-mail me at pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Thanks, Paul Eastman TD Edinburgh Beginners 2000 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 12 08:41:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5C6lEo01029 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5C6l2p01010 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5C6l2Y21381 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA25485 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200006120647.HAA25485@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 17th June 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Leeds [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mild Mannered Janitors Email b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk [Ben] Phone (0113) 274 9097 [Arun] BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Quarry Park Open (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Exeter Hat Tournament (2 days) @ Duckes Meadows, Exeter [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Dave Hillier Email hillier40@hotmail.com Phone 0121 705 7855 [hols] 01392 494 640 [term-time] Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 12 18:40:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5CH5du09053 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:05:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5CH5Qp08997 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:05:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from peoplepc-corp.com (gw.peoplepc-corp.com [216.15.83.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5CH5OY01023 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:05:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.peoplepc-corp.com ([10.100.1.3]) by gw.peoplepc-corp.com with ESMTP id <119062>; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:05:33 -0700 Received: by mailhost.peoplepc-corp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:07:01 -0700 Message-ID: <7118C1B11A16D311820B00508B2CE9530100E8FF@mailhost.peoplepc-corp.com> From: Rachel Greenfeld To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Looking for a game Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:07:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone at brit disc, My name is Rachel Greenfeld and I have just moved to London. I'm looking for a team with whom I can play, ideally on a regular basis, but if it is only as a substitute that is fine as well. I've been playing for about 5 years, mostly back in university days. If anyone is looking for a female player for their team, please let me know. Thanks! Rachel International Business Development PeoplePC e-mail: rachel@peoplepchq.com European mobile: 44-(0)771-336-2663 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 12 23:48:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5CMCcQ29546 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:12:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5CMCAp29490 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:12:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5CMC5R14500 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:12:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 131cQs-0008f1-0X; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:11:59 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:09:38 +0100 To: BritDisc , EuroDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Fluid Druids present: Ross-on-Wye 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Fluid Druids Ultimate Club is proud to present the 19th annual Ross-on-Wye Ultimate Tournament. A long-standing highlight of the British Ultimate calendar, regularly attracting teams from Ireland, France and Australia. when: 29 + 30 July 2000 where: Ross Sports Centre, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire Accommodation: Camping, bring tents, sleeping bags, beer... Such is the demand to enter this event that we have to operate on a first-paid first-entered basis (and with 10 teams already hassling me for information, spaces are going to go fast!). Only 24 teams will be able to attend this event. Therefore, to enter, cheques of value GBP 90.00 payable to "W.Retter" should be sent to: Ross on Wye Ultimate Tournament c/o Wayne Retter Flat 8, Avon House Redhill Surrey RH1 1EH England with the following information: Team Name: Team Contact: Contact Email* (home): Contact Email* (work): Contact phone* (home): Contact phone* (work): Contact phone* (mobile): Contact Address: * Please complete as many as possible of these items The first 22 "first team" cheques received will get spaces; "second teams" will be held until 1 July before being allocated spaces. There should also be a basic tournament website in the not too distant future... http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/ross2000/ Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk mobile: 07970-903420 office: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 13 09:16:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5D7NwL27565 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:23:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5D7Nnp27548 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:23:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.doubleclick.net (relay2.doubleclick.net [199.95.209.112]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5D7NTR04687 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:23:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.doubleclick.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay2.doubleclick.net (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20185 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bugs.doubleclick.net (BUGS.doubleclick.net [172.16.100.37]) by relay2.doubleclick.net (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20098; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by BUGS.doubleclick.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:24:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crick, Jamie" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" , "'pookas@egroups.com'" Subject: Get an Ultimate cursor! Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 03:24:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The ultimate (geddit?) geek accessory. Go to http://cometzone.cometsystems.com/az.asp?category=U#cursors and your life will never be the same again. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 13 10:36:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5D9YFX21475 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5D9YEp21469 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:34:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5D9YDR17396 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id KAA22405 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by canna; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:34:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:34:12 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Eastman Reply-To: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Recipts. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Sorry to bother you all again. I still havn't heard any thing from Chris hughs about a recipt for Tour I. Can either Chris or Wayne please let me know what the situation is. Thanks, Paul pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 13 11:48:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5DAjhA09023 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:45:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DAjfp09004 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:45:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps3.leeds.ac.uk (sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.35]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DAjdY15397 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:45:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (east-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.6]) by mps3.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00449; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:45:39 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200006131045.LAA00449@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H15/SpoolDir by east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 13 Jun 00 11:46:46 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H15 (Mercury 1.47); 13 Jun 00 11:46:35 GMT From: "Silk" Organization: University of Leeds To: BritDisc Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:46:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Players for the W/E CC: student-ultimate@egroups.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, I represent a team called disciples and we are entered for the co-ed tour in Leeds this weekend. Origanally we had about 5 women but now most of them have bailed out on us (I think we smell). But anyway if you are a girl and would like to play for a random team for the weekend then give me a bell. We are a mix of experience and will welcome first time players also. Please e-mail: bensilk25@hotmail.com or ring 0113 2787943 and leave a message if I'm not in. Cheers Ben _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943