From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 13 12:35:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5DBXjp23729 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:33:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DBXgp23711 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:33:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (web123.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.191]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5DBXfY23123 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:33:41 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 5746 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jun 2000 11:33:38 -0000 Message-ID: <20000613113338.5745.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.1.149.177] by web123.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:33:38 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:33:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: Oxford ultimate players?? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, This is aimed for anyone living in/around Oxford... I am attending a course at the Queens College from August 7th-15th, and need to know: -does anyone know of a room to rent(students leaving for the summer?), or any cheap hostels for the week? -are there any events, practises I could come along to, Thanks for any help... Sarah f6uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 13 20:31:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5DJTD628555 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:29:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DJTCp28550 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:29:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DJTBR23481 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:29:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-27-47.host.btclick.com ([213.120.27.47]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000613192828.DZLC5352.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-120-27-47.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:28:28 +0100 Received: by host213-120-27-47.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFD575.AC950340@host213-120-27-47.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:26:37 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFD575.AC950340@host213-120-27-47.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: T4 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:20:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5DJTCp28551 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you trying to make sure that you enter T4 in time and don't incur penalties - don't panic. 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Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 13 23:20:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5DMIeE25686 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:18:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DMIcp25678 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:18:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5DMIbR02694 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:18:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 131z12-0000Ld-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:18:37 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:10:27 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Get an Ultimate cursor! References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tue, 13 Jun 2000, by Crick, Jamie ; Subject: Get an Ultimate cursor! >The ultimate (geddit?) geek accessory. Go to >http://cometzone.cometsystems.com/az.asp?category=U#cursors > and your life >will never be the same again. Looks like a Freestyler to me! :( Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273611 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 11:06:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5EA4P127346 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:04:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EA4Np27338 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.chorleys.co.uk (gate-isdn.chorleys.co.uk [194.152.72.81]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EA4KY03571 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.55] (helo=chorpcsrv001.localnet) by gate-isdn.chorleys.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 132A1H-00030n-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:03:35 +0100 Received: by chorpcsrv001.localnet with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:59:45 +0100 Message-ID: <9B3B6FF16FBCD211BEF10090273C2730623FB5@chorpcsrv001.localnet> From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: TOUR 4 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:59:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5EA4Op27339 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tour 4 - 15th/16 July Venue - Leeds Grammar School Cost - £90 Spaces for up to 32 teams Cheques Payable to - Mild Mannered Janitors Closing date for entries - 02/07/2000 Send Cheques to: MMJ 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Entries will not be accepted without receipt of payment in full. After 30/06/00 contact e-mail for MMJ/Tour 4 will change to asharma43@hotmail.com Thanks Arun Waddington Chorleys Ltd Manston Lane Cross Gates Leeds LS15 8AH www: www.chorleys.co.uk Tel. +44 (0)113 225 5346 Fax. +44 (0)113 217 1576 [Important. This email is intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If this has come to you in error you must take no action based on it, nor must you copy or show it to anyone; please telephone us immediately.] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 12:19:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5EBGX717250 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:16:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EBGWp17239 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:16:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f109.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.109]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5EBGVR21746 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:16:31 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 97935 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2000 11:16:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20000614111620.97934.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 213.120.56.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:16:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [213.120.56.53] From: "Dave Hillier" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: EXETER HAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:16:20 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk SUN, BEER, FRISBEE, & THAT FOOTIE MATCH ALL IN ONE DAY! ALL AT EXETER HAT! INTERESTED? Just a quick reminder that exeter hat is still on this weekend. The weather forecast is excellent, going to be very hot and sunny. Should be an great weekend of frisbee, beer and of course the England match. Its not too late, just turn up and pay on saturday morning (£6 / person) If you need a map there is a very brief one on the University website, go to www.ex.ac.uk then click on THE UNIVERSITY on the bottom half of the menu column, then go to HOW TO GET TO EXETER and then CITY MAP at the top of the screen. Duckes Meadows is on the topsham road, you need to find salmon pool lane (on the left, along the river) which is just opposite BARRACK ROAD after a small row of shops,salmon pool is not on the map. If you find salmon pool go down it, the pitches are signposted as playing fields, on a very sharp corner. Go down this very small road and there is a gravel car park, the pitches are over a small bridge and down a gravel path to the left. If you get lost you can give me a ring on, 07713 151 308 or if cant get through 07967 320 491 You need to be there by 9:45am, games start at 10:30am. This is to give us time to sort the teams. Hope to see you there Dave ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 12:46:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5EBiW924910 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:44:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EBiVp24902 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:44:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from wiblhs3.windsor.co.uk (wiblhs.windsor.co.uk [193.122.212.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EBiLY20414 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:44:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from wiblhs.windsor.co.uk (unverified) by wiblhs3.windsor.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:38:32 +0100 Received: by WIBLHS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:37:20 +0100 Message-ID: <5035BDBA4802D411850300508B6DD14A19C10A@WIBLHS> From: "Goolden, Jack" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: ross Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:37:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFD5F4.E6A137C8" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. 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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFD5F4.E6A137C8-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 12:56:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5EBsOD27721 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:54:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EBsLp27706 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:54:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from web4301.mail.yahoo.com (web4301.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5EBsKR25979 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:54:20 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000614115412.348.qmail@web4301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.131.191.2] by web4301.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:54:12 BST Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:54:12 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=20J?= Subject: solicitor among us? To: Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk wow, in light of what nolan has had to deal with (below), surely there must be a couple of solicitors among us that could help out? I suggest that a percentage of (B)UPA fees could be donated towards this end? after all, we need places to play, it's a fairly important point of order. mj > Also, having organised > the British Open for five years, I would ask you to > consider this... > > I had a five year legal contract with the Saffrons > and every year every > aspect of the minutiae of that contract was gone > over again and again AND > further reiterated AND further agreed in writing. To > infer that it is just a > matter of a phone call is naivety itself. Every > single year the Saffrons > changed some aspect or did not deliver something > which was agreed in > writing, usually without warning. (I don't know how > extensive your knowledge > of the law is but if it's better than mine, which > wouldn't be difficult, > please feel free to correct me) I really felt it was > tantamount to > impossible for me to spend further time and/or risk > vast sums of money, > taking the Saffrons to court. SO, if the BUF were to > undertake to punish > TDs, they would have to support those TDs > financially (as a minimum) when > matters become litigious. > > One of the main reasons that I'm not holding the > open this year is that I > was so embarrassed when bars closed earlier than > agreed, Parties simply > didn't happen, bar-b-qs didn't happen, the correct > no of pitches was not > available, the date was changed, additional charges > were levied on the > players, showers were not available, car parking and > camping were not > clearly sign posted and fenced off, no PA system was > available, no secure > area was available for me.... I could go on!!!... > > Personally, I can assure you that anyone at the BUF > attempting to penalise > me for this would be lucky to get away with just an > earbashing! in fact > they'd have to take ME to court to get the cash. > > Please consider this. > > Cheers > Nolan > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 14:00:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5ECwUb17453 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:58:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5ECwSp17444 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:58:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from quasar.wds.org (mail.wds.co.uk [193.115.216.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5ECwSY03870 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:58:28 +0100 (BST) Received: by QUASAR with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:50:55 +0100 Message-ID: From: Adriano Vitali To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Talampaya 2000 Co-ed challenge Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:50:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Allo British ultimate lovers! This past weekend one of the 2 Superfly teams travelling to the continent, took part in one of Europe's best tournaments, the Talampaya 2000 held by the Wizards in Geneva. Here are the final standings. A full tournament report may be posted at a later date. Special thanks to the Wizards for a great time and for organising transport around Geneva. Extra special thanks to Sammy "Elephant Man" Neilson, Barnsey, Lucy, Sarah, Sonia and Sara for helping us out. VITO From: Speedy Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:45:32 +0200 Subject: Talampaya 2000 - Ultimate is beautiful! Bonjour all EuroDisc-ers, WurfPost-ers and Disc Lovers, The Talampaya 2000 coed Challenge took place on the 10, 11 and 12th of June, and was won by 'Cota Boom Boom', the Rimini coed team, who defeated the French from 'Les Clac-Clac' in the final. The SOTG was awarded to Superfly. You'll find the complete rankings below. It was a really great week-end, and the Wizards are exhausted after welcoming 350 players in Geneva - about a hundred more than originally planned and announced by the participating teams. We were really happy to see most teams arriving with more players than anticipated, and hopefully our guests did not notice too much the stress that was put on the organisation team. The weather was as usual: mostly OK, some very sunny and hot moments, and the traditional not-too-long-but-Oh-so-intense shower that go us all wet and refreshed on Sunday. It assured a 3rd day on soft green grass! The boat party was memorable, lots of fantastic dresses, and people dancing with all their energy late into the night. When we closed the boat at the light of dawn, 2 teams were competing for the party win, which was assured when one of the teams was first to take the dip in the lake... Thank you to everyone for making this happen! The Wizards are looking forward to welcome you all again next year!!! Love, For the Wiz, Speedy SOTG: Superfly 1. Cota Boom Boom (I) 2. Les Clac Clac (F) 3. German Coed National Team (D) 4. Circus Ipie (NL) 5. Flying Saucers Luzern (CH) 6. Flowers (CH-B-Intl) 7. Zuri Ultimate Flyers (CH) 8. Superfly (GB) 9. Austrian Coed National Team (A) 10. Flying Angels Bern (CH) 11. Gnadelos (CH) 12. Gronical Dizziness (NL) 13. Maultaschen (D) 14. Swiss Coed National Team (CH) 15. Padania Power Coed Team (I) 16. Patatas Bravas (E) 17. Red I's (CH) 18. La Fotta (I) 19. Radicals (CH) 20. Disc Club Panthers (CH) 21. Wizards (CH) 22. Klopstock (CH) 23. Monkey Foo (F) 24. Simon's Tooth (CH) Party: Klopstock Best costume: the 3 'big animal heads' from Simon's Tooth From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 14:56:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5EDsbm01386 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:54:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EDsZp01372 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:54:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (exim@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk [131.111.36.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EDsZR09902 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:54:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from gcf (helo=localhost) by mole.bio.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 132Dcj-002j1Q-00; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:54:29 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:54:29 +0100 (BST) From: Graham C Fletcher Reply-To: Graham C Fletcher To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Extra men needed for the Co-ed this weekend. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Strange Blue, an established ultimate team with over 15 years of national competition experience and the winner of many spirit prizes, has space available for 2 extra male players this weekend in Leeds. Vacancies available at handler, middle or long positions. Initial period for the weekend only however potential does exist for long-term tarting in the future. Ideal candidate will have at least one year of playing experience and enjoy chasing after 175g of plastic. Knowledge of comedy calls an advantage but not essential. If interested please email your ultimate cv and details of previous team(s) to Graham Fletcher at gcf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Fletcher. Department of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge, Tennis Court Road, Cambridge. CB2 1QW. gcf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 14 15:19:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5EEI4408345 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:18:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EEI1p08333 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:18:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from peoplepc-corp.com (gw.peoplepc-corp.com [216.15.83.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5EEHxR13282 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:18:01 +0100 (BST) Received: by gw.peoplepc-corp.com via suspension id <119054>; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:18:01 -0700 Received: from mailhost.peoplepc-corp.com ([10.100.1.3]) by gw.peoplepc-corp.com with ESMTP id <119050>; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:17:50 -0700 Received: by mailhost.peoplepc-corp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:19:37 -0700 Message-ID: <7118C1B11A16D311820B00508B2CE9530100E95E@mailhost.peoplepc-corp.com> From: Rachel Greenfeld To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Recruiting Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:19:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone from Britdisc. 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Rachel International Business Development PeoplePC e-mail: rachel@peoplepchq.com European mobile: 44-(0)771-336-2663 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 15 00:14:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5ENCNL03678 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5ENCKp03657 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5ENCKR03386 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 132MKZ-0006Me-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:19 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 132MKc-0003o3-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:22 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:18 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE027165B3@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: ultimate vid... Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:12:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk aright all!! just in case u were interested, we can all buy an ulti vid (made at some US comp) to put with our collection of "extreme sports" vids we have all grown to love and nurture. I bain't got a clue what its like, but I seen some clips on the net, and they had some wicked stuff in 'em. check out what the peeps wot made it are like at: http://www.ultimatefrisbeevideo.com/ anyways, laters tom (ps, heres a message some dude sent me, cos they made a pal version now, that we can watch here in uk)(I know its expensive, but I bough some vids that cost 20 quids, and are only 30 mins long!!) dear tom, Wanted to let everyone know that Above and Beyond, our Ultimate Frisbee video, is now available in PAL format. If you're interested in a copy, e-mail me your address and we'll put one in the mail immediately. We're charging $30 (US) for overseas orders (mostly for shipping). We haven't exactly worked out an international payment system, but we think traveller's checks are probably the best form of compensation despite the risk of sending them in the mail. Checks should be payable to: Mike Bell 97 Melrose Ave. Pasadena, CA 91105 USA We'll happily send out a video upon receiving the order and trust that the check will make it here ok. Thanks! Mike Bell From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 15 00:45:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5ENi2O16247 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:44:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5ENhwp16242 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5ENhrR05544 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 132Mp4-000Km0-0W; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:43:51 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:06:02 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: London League , Clapham Bullfrogs Mailing List , Drop Dead Gorgeous From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Looking for Games and Rides... MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Owen from Brownian Motion is in London (Victoria) at the moment. He's looking for a ride from London to Leeds for the CoEd (sorry, Mixed!) event this weekend. (He's already had offers to play for a couple of teams, but they can't transport him...) He's also looking for times/places/teams to play with over the next few weeks... Drop him a line if you can help: otaw@yahoo.com Wayne PS: Apologies if you get this more than once! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273611 until Friday, changes Monday From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 15 09:55:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5F8oKC10439 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:50:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5F8oGp10417 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:50:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h015.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.115]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5F8o5R00786 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:50:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 13365 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2000 09:49:16 +0100 Date: 15 Jun 2000 09:49:15 +0100 Message-ID: <20000615084915.13364.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 15 Jun 2000 08:49:15 GMT Received: from [194.82.103.35] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 15 Jun 2000 09:49:15 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: hannahp21@hotmail.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 Subject: WANTED - a lift from Sth London / Bromley to Southampton X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all. Is anyone travelling to Tour III from South London / Bromley and has a space for a travelling companion? I am transport-less and stuck in Bromley for the Summer but I want to play Tour III. Can anyone help? Will bring travel snax and snappy conversation. And Travel Twister! Let me know. Send me a mail please: hannahp21@hotmail.com Hannah. slipdisc ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 15 22:55:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5FLq4c20971 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:52:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5FLq3p20965 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:52:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f61.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.61]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5FLq2Y19066 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:52:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 78205 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2000 21:51:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20000615215153.78204.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 62.125.139.50 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:51:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.125.139.50] From: "Kerry maybury" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: need a lift to leeds? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:51:53 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there anybody who needs a lift to leeds from london? I'm leaving from Harrow friday afternoon, but could be persuaded to leave later, for example after work 6-7pm if i was to have some company. contact by reply mail or mob 07788 420913. Bye for now, Kerry ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 16 16:04:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5GExVF21259 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:59:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5GExOw21235 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mps1.leeds.ac.uk (mps1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5GExOY17984 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (east-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.76.6]) by mps1.leeds.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25793 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:59:23 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200006161459.PAA25793@mps1.leeds.ac.uk> Received: from LUCS-H15/SpoolDir by east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 16 Jun 00 16:00:32 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H15 (Mercury 1.47); 16 Jun 00 16:00:25 GMT From: "Silk" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:59:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: leaving X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can you take this address off britdisc I can't find the correct address _________________________________________________________ Ben Silk ultimate@pointblank.co.uk Mob 07931 891341 Home (0113) 2787943 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jun 17 04:31:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5H3SaZ15158 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:28:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5H3SZw15153 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:28:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f91.hotmail.com [216.32.181.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5H3SYY03386 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:28:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 88034 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jun 2000 03:28:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000617032824.88033.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.72.152.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:28:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.72.152.2] From: "rodrigo morales" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Bournemouth Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:28:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ... HI everybody .. i'll know who are peoples practice the ultimate in this place .... please white me here ...i hope your answer ... bye.. thanks! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jun 17 07:03:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5H60MK23709 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:00:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5H60Lw23704 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:00:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f140.hotmail.com [216.32.181.140]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5H60KR24209 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:00:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 17744 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jun 2000 06:00:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20000617060008.17743.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.198.72 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:00:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.198.72] From: "Steve Pawlowski" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FAO: Delbert (UTI) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 06:00:08 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Del, Could you get in contact with me regarding setting up a Yeovil based club. I may not have a great deal to "ahem" contribute, but I'd love to keep my arm in over the summer. Cheers, Steve. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 18 17:27:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5IGLAG18664 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:21:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5IGL8w18654 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:21:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from rmx460-mta.mail.com (rmx460-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.47]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5IGL8R14817 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:21:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from web302-mc.mail.com (web302-mc.mail.com [165.251.48.163]) by rmx460-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24449 for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <382072175.961345267261.JavaMail.root@web302-mc.mail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Rich Hims To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Southampton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 192.114.182.10 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm driving to Southampton late Fri night or early Sat morning [prob early sat]from North of London. If anyone needs a lift [I'd welcome the company and extra eyes for navigation], please reply to this address and also [to be safe, I'm travelling and may not get access in time] ring me Friday day on 0794 1216466 to tell me. Rich, Janitors, GB Juniors. ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 19 07:48:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5J6l3g14889 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5J6l2w14884 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5J6l1R09844 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 133vKm-0006Px-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:00 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 133vKl-0000NB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:46:59 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: how to seed tournaments Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:46:59 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc, a note for anyone planning to hold a tournament. (I put these notes on the web in 1995, and it still seems relevant...) Planning a tournament schedule "We'll see you in the final!" you say to your opponents after a game in the pool play of a tournament. But sometimes it turns out that you meet them just a couple of games later during the knockout! This is likely to happen if, after the pool play, the teams are numbered thus: Pool A B C D Rank in pool 1st 1 2 3 4 2nd 5 6 7 8 and then have a standard knockout (1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5, etc.). If, for example, 5 beats 4 and 1 beats 8 (not implausible), then the teams that started out as 1 and 5 play each other in the second round of the knockout -- and 1 and 5 already met in the pool play; and the same goes for 4 and 8, who already met in pool D. This situation can arise in the other pools too if 7 beats 2 or if 6 beats 3, so it must be quite a common occurrence in tournaments that are scheduled in this way. Similar problems can also arise after cross-over games too. For example, at the 1995 Nationals, Strange Blue played in a pool with PhatEds and then lost a crossover game with the Bears; our next game was then with PhatEds. I think Bliss and Skunks had a similar experience. Wouldn't it be preferable to have a tournament schedule in which this couldn't happen - so that each team meets as many other teams as possible? (Not that we didn't have fun playing PhatEds twice!) As the Druids have demonstrated for years at their fine tournaments, it is actually quite easy to set up a schedule such that teams who've played each other in a pool are guaranteed not to meet in the first two rounds of an eight-team knockout. All that is required is to number the teams in the four pools thus: 1 2 3 4 7 8 5 6 and proceed with a normal knockout. I hope that this note may help tournie organisers plan even better tournaments. David MacKay, Strange Blue mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk ------------ More ideas for sixteen-team tournaments, added June 2000: If the conventional format "pools of 4 then 1-8 knockout and 9-16 knockout" is used, then the following seedings seem good: 1 2 3 4 7 8 5 6 10 9 12 11 16 15 14 13 -------------- It is also possible to add the following "peer games" after the pool games in the above format: 1v3, 2v4, 5v7, 6v8, 9v11, 10v12, 13v15, 14v16 -------------- If an extra crossover game between 5-8 and 9-12 is to be included to allow 3rd rank teams a chance to get into the top 8, then the following seeding is good: 1 2 3 4 7 8 5 6 12 11 10 9 14 13 16 15 The top 4 and bottom 4 could play peer games (1v3, 2v4, 13v15, 14v16) while the crossover games (5v12, 6v11, 7v10, 8v9) are happening. --------------- Finally, here is a seeding for a tournament with pool games followed by peer games at all levels, then a 5-12 crossover, then 1-8 and 9-16 playoffs. 1 2 3 4 7 8 5 6 11 12 9 10 13 14 15 16 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 19 07:49:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5J6lJC14911 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5J6lIw14906 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5J6lIY14277 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA12371 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:17 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200006190647.HAA12371@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 24th June 2000 French Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Strasbourg, France [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR III (2 days) @ Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note the change of date (was to be on 17/18 June). Contact Neil Pennington Email nap197@soton.ac.uk Phone 07833 958921 Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 19 15:22:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5JEJx806175 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:19:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5JEJtw06128 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:19:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from web4803.mail.yahoo.com (web4803.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.245]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5JEJnR13129 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:19:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000619141933.22839.qmail@web4803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.92.198.79] by web4803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:19:33 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Owen Williams To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc, I lost a blue lettered Brownian Motion disc at the Leeds tournament this past weekend. It had an eight armed dude with a frisbee in each hand on the front. My name was faintly written inside, but more easily recognizable was the random collection of stickers reading "E" and "itc" Can anyone help me find it? Thanks so much, Owen (Williams) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 19 16:04:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5JF2fF20145 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:02:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5JF2dw20139 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:02:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5JF2PY03254 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:02:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id RAA27777 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:02:21 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma027775; Mon, 19 Jun 00 17:02:24 +0200 Received: from notessmtp-nl2.philips.com (notessmtp-nl2.philips.com [130.139.36.11]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id RAA27678 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:02:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl2.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id RAA19620 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:02:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900009353744; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:04:15 +0200 To: Subject: LOST Message-ID: <0056900009353744000002L042*@MHS> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:04:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 06/19/00 16:59:16" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5JF2ew20140 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1 pair of silver Oakleys.... If any one finds them please please let me know! Hannah (DDG) (Bliss) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 19 16:49:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5JFl1002222 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5JFkuw02202 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:46:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5JFkhR23254 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:46:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.155] (helo=000014greeng) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 1343l1-0000vd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:46:39 +0100 Reply-To: From: "James Hammersley" To: Subject: Rumour 2000 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:46:23 +0100 Message-ID: <001401bfda05$8619e980$9b02a8c0@000014greeng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All There was a rumour a few months ago that Oxford were holding a chill out, end of tour tourney - well the rumours are true. Rumour 2000 is what Ultimate is all about. Its about spirit, sun, the moves you didn't make on the tour, its about running harder, faster, further than you thought possible. Why would you do this? To get the Disc, the glory and the Tequila. When: 23 July 2000 Where: Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire What: Unlimited evening food Shots of Tequila Hacky-Volley courts All night bar (Saturday) Funky Music 24/7 Camping facilities and toilets Huge breakfast Prizes Cost: £70 per team plus £10 per player What you need to do: email Milky or Mike oxfordultimate@hotmail.com tell us you want to come, there are limited places, and certain teams have taken them Live it. love it. breath it - OXFORD ULTIMATE From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 19 17:08:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5JG5st07253 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:05:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5JG5jw07211 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:05:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h008.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5JG5dY12015 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:05:40 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 15475 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2000 17:06:50 +0100 Date: 19 Jun 2000 17:06:50 +0100 Message-ID: <20000619160650.15474.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 19 Jun 2000 16:06:50 GMT Received: from [194.82.103.39] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 19 Jun 2000 17:06:50 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: and I lost something too Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone find a white BUF disc - blue and red print I think? It had SlipDisc written on it underneath. The team would like it back else I'll be for it. If you know of its whereabouts then and can get it to Southampton then look for the shi.......chocolate brown shirts of SlipDisc. Thanks. Mal. SlipDisc PS great tournie MMJs, nicely engineered footie results too! Arun. mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 20 11:12:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5K9vUN18664 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:57:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5K9v7w18576 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:57:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5K9v1R06370 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:57:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:55:04 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:54:53 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Lift to Southampton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5K9vTw18657 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi all, Will anybody be passing through/near Loughborough this Friday on the way to Southampton. If so there are two ultimate players who desperately need a lift to Tour III. Obviously we would pay towards the trip, in either money or beer! If you can help, please let me know ASAP. cheers, Matt Swamp Donkeys home: matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com work: matthewl@fisher.co.uk home: 01509 556927 mobile: 07712 266794 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 21 13:27:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5LCOk904564 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:24:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5LCOgw04533 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:24:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from jess.lmu.ac.uk (jess.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5LCOgR22976 for ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:24:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by jess.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 134jbt-0003lz-00; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:28:01 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:29:59 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAD7E@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Cc: "'arun sharma'" Subject: FW: HK7's Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:25:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > HONG KONG 7'S - 2000 > > The second tournament of the 2000 Mixed Series took place at Boston Spa, near Leeds. The weather was a bit too hot for some of us northerners, but there was a breeze to cool us down and make the games even more interesting. > The teams that dominated the first event in Cambridge - Wage, Kupa and Chevron Action Flash - were once again the teams to beat at the Hong Kong Sevens. All of them had an easy progression to the semi finals and Wage won their's convincingly against Blue Arse Flies. The other semi was a much closer game, with Chevron Action Flash needing at least one great grab and a little bit of luck to beat the Kiwis in sudden death. > Further down the placings, Strange Blue were the in-form team. They improved on their seventh place at their own tournament by beating both MMJ and Drop Dead Gorgeous to come fifth. Earlier, DDG had nearly made the semis, but lost in sudden death to BAF. > Chevron and Wage started the final by trading the first four points and thus promising a close match for the crowd to enjoy. However, Chevron were unable to maintain the trend as a succession of poor throw aways combined with tight defence from Wage put them 8-2 down at half. More of the same took place after half with Chevron continuing to make mistakes and Wage extending their lead to 12-2. With Wage taking more risks than before, Chevron managed to put together a healthy run of points, bringing them back to 13-9. However, Wage took the next point to lead 14-9 in a game to 15 and this was too much for Chevron to pull back as their comeback faultered. Wage were then able to close out a well deserved victory. > > Final Standings > > Champions - Wage Plate Winners - Mud Culture Spirit - Superfly > > 2 Chevron Action Flash > 3 Kupa > 4 Blue Arse Flies > 5 Strange Blue > 6 Drop Dead Gorgeous > 7 Mild Mannered Janitors > 8 Superfly > 9 Mud Culture > 10 Pookas > 11 Ro-sham-bo & belles > 12 Jesters > 13 Hulltimate > 14 Bradford Export > 15 Sneeekys > 16 More Mild Mannered Janitors > > If you have any lost property please call us on (0113) 2749097 and we'll see > if it was handed in. > > > Thanks for coming > > Janitors > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 00:49:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5LNl2p12217 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5LNkxw12203 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:46:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5LNkxR19504 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:46:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 134uCs-000CUp-0B for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:46:55 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:45:48 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Ross on Wye 2000 website MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk has had a bit of an overhaul, though it's still not quite complete... http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/ross2000/ Wayne --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 08:56:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5M7sXs23816 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:54:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5M7sVw23809 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:54:31 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:52:17 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "CNUC2000 Volunteers" Subject: Volunteering for Canadian Nationals 2000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Don't waste your whole summer hiking, biking, and kayaking! Can you count to 13? Know the difference between a water jug and a slow moving Master's player? You can help make the Canadian National Ultimate Championships an event to remember! Earn free schwag that's so cool we can't even tell you about it yet. Gain the undying gratitude of Ultimate players from across Canada. Help make Vancouver the Ultimate capital of Canada, maybe even the world. We need volunteers to help out with a wide range of duties. Almost all of them are fun. A few hours on the weekend of July 27 - 30 will give you memories for a lifetime. Oh yeah, if you're wondering... The water jug doesn't launch into long stories about "the old days" and the legend of the warehouse full of Pony cleats unless you specifically ask. Attached to this message is a volunteer form in html format. Fill it out and fax it to the number on the form. Hope to hear from ya'all soon. [Attachment missing - please contact Hope Kubryn direct if interested.] Hope Kubryn Nationals Volunteer Coordinator ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 09:27:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5M8Pmo28579 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:25:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5M8Pjw28548 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:25:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5M8PjR07686 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:25:45 +0100 (BST) Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:25:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Rumour 2000: Footbag - Net style - UK style Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:24:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All A few people have been asking about Hacky Volley..... The following sites are good, but a big WARNING!! Rumour's idea is to play on a smaller court where the style and moves are what count.....and you get to show-boat in front of the bar. Well check these out.. www.footbag,org/net.html www.footbag,org/worlds95/w95.press-release.html Don't forget the Tequila.... See you in Southampton The Milk Man Sharks - Oxford Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 10:23:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5M9KcG10140 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:20:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5M9Kaw10131 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:20:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5M9KRR15194 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:20:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.122.206] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000515781 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:23:54 +0100 Message-ID: <3951DA55.8942BD9@deepend.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:21:59 +0100 From: Jim Jam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: The Pro-Am Classic 1 day Disc GOlf tournament Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C4FBEA828474B3AA98B1508F" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --------------C4FBEA828474B3AA98B1508F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted on behalf of the Bongo Disc Golf Club. Contact Frank Knutton for deatils 020 8845 9742 frank@discgolf.co.uk http://www.discgolf.co.uk/proam/ The Pro-Am Classic Disc Golf Championship 8th July 2000 Elthorne Park, Boston Rd, Hanwell, London W7 Tournament Details This is a ONE day singles strokeplay tournament. 2 rounds of 18 holes plus 9 hole final for the top 5 players. The Course: 9 hole course, all baskets. Players Meeting: 0930 First tee: 1000 Divisions: The tournament offers a choice three separate playing divisions. Players will submit their division of choice when registering. Pro - ANY player can enter this division. The top 16 seeds from the 1999 season are obliged to enter the Pro Division. Amateur - Any player outside of last season’s top 16 ranked players can opt for the Amateur Division. Newcomer - This division is for players who are relatively new to the sport and maybe playing for the first time. Entry Fee: £10 waged, £8 unwaged. Registration: The field is limited to a maximum of 45 players. Pre registration is the only way your place in the tournament can be guaranteed. If you intend to play, we would be grateful for an indication of you commitment to the tournament. It will make the tournament easier to organise having an idea of player numbrs. Disc Regulations: Newcomers to the sport will need at least one disc in order to compete. We advise that newcomers use approved golf discs. Ultrastar discs are OK, however any aerobees or similar discs are not permitted. Approved golf discs will be available to purchase at the event (£7-£8 each). Directions: Elthorne Park is Boston Manor Road (A3002). The area is called Hanwell, West London (W7). The nearest town is Ealing. Easily accessable from the A4, M4, A40, A406, A206. Tube: Boston Manor (Piccadilly Line) British Rail: Ealing Broadway, then E8 bus. Contact: Frank Knutton 020 8845 9742 frank@discgolf.co.uk http://www.discgolf.co.uk/proam/ -- Jester | Usability Designer | Information Architect Deepend | 44-46 Scrutton Street | London | EC2A 4QL T +44 (0)20 7247 2999 | F +44 (0)20 7247 9996 E jester@deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.com --------------C4FBEA828474B3AA98B1508F Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted on behalf of the Bongo Disc Golf Club. Contact Frank Knutton for deatils 020 8845 9742 frank@discgolf.co.uk

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The Pro-Am Classic
Disc Golf Championship

8th July 2000
Elthorne Park, Boston Rd, Hanwell, London W7




Tournament Details
This is a ONE day singles strokeplay tournament. 2 rounds of 18 holes plus 9 hole final for the top 5 players.

The Course:
9 hole course, all baskets.

Players Meeting:
0930

First tee:
1000

Divisions:
The tournament offers a choice three separate playing divisions. Players will submit their division of choice when registering.
Pro - ANY player can enter this division. The top 16 seeds from the 1999 season are obliged to enter the Pro Division.
Amateur - Any player outside of last season’s top 16 ranked players can opt for the Amateur Division.
Newcomer - This division is for players who are relatively new to the sport and maybe playing for the first time.

Entry Fee:
£10 waged, £8 unwaged.

Registration:
The field is limited to a maximum of 45 players. Pre registration is the only way your place in the tournament can be guaranteed. If you intend to play, we would be grateful for an indication of you commitment to the tournament. It will make the tournament easier to organise having an idea of player numbrs.

Disc Regulations:
Newcomers to the sport will need at least one disc in order to compete. We advise that newcomers use approved golf discs. Ultrastar discs are OK, however any aerobees or similar discs are not permitted. Approved golf discs will be available to purchase at the event (£7-£8 each).

Directions:
Elthorne Park is Boston Manor Road (A3002). The area is called Hanwell, West London (W7).
The nearest town is Ealing. Easily accessable from the A4, M4, A40, A406, A206.
Tube: Boston Manor (Piccadilly Line) British Rail: Ealing Broadway, then E8 bus.

Contact:
Frank Knutton 020 8845 9742 frank@discgolf.co.uk
 

http://www.discgolf.co.uk/proam/
 
 

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  --------------C4FBEA828474B3AA98B1508F-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 13:33:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MCU7T03683 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:30:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MCU4w03676 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:30:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MCU4Y06304 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:30:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcedcd.dph.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.48.164] helo=aber.ac.uk) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13567J-0005On-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:29:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3952075E.83B1C490@aber.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:32:31 +0100 From: Dinesh Narayan Organization: Integrated Sensors Research Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Britdisc Subject: southampton by car Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello folks, I would be grateful for some help on getting to tour 3 by car. Two friends would like to take part this weekend but are travelling on Saturday morning to the Wellington sports centre from Reading and Basingstoke. Unfortunately none of us have got access to the information pack sent by the tour organizers. We would appreciate if someone could help and provide the best route to get to tour 3 by car and (if possible) if you are starting from Basingstoke or Reading. Thanks for your help, cheers! Den -- The Integrated Sensors Research Group, Room 210, Second Floor, Department of Physics, University of Wales Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Wales, UK SY23 3BZ email address: djn94@aber.ac.uk phone: (01970) 622838 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 13:41:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MCeew05839 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:40:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MCeZw05817 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:40:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MCeYY08125 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:40:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from eeapp.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.58] helo=eeapp) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 1356HS-0003J5-00; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:40:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:38:33 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@eeapp To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: leigh simmons , Substance Abuse , robin.sloan@strath.ac.uk, alpaters@cs.strath.ac.uk, andy_daley@hotmail.com, dkatuni@hotmail.com, stuart.murphy@strath.ac.uk, jenna.dunlop@strath.ac.uk, martin.hose@strath.ac.uk, gerard.lee@strath.ac.uk, sara.hill@strath.ac.uk, habi@mindless.com, jen_helm@hotmail.com, glendobson@DUCKER.co.uk, Clarke , The Flingers , Mud Culture Subject: Glastonbury 2000 - the Gunslinger In-Reply-To: <20000609151103.33890.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As we have started receiving requests for information about the Sept. 9/10th Glastonbury Gunslinger event, those at Substance Abuse issue the following correction: Cheques (80 GBP/team) should be sent to Todd Kleckner Top Floor 4 Crown Circus Dowanhill Glasgow G12 9HB and not the person/address mentioned in the original message (repeated below for those of you whose vision has just returned after your most recent blindness-inducing session). And if you're one of the trigger-happy few that have already dropped a cheque in the post to the original address, send us an email letting us know. Requests for information, as always, to substance-abuse.egroups.com. ---- > It's going to get wild out west ... > > The freedom fighting posse of Substance Abuse welcome you to a venue for > madness, memory loss, and merriment- to be held on what will be > affectionately remembered as lush, Glastonbury cricket grounds. Brand > yourself so you remember the dates of September 9-10 (and following the > event, your identity). We're offering on site saloon/party, camping, > outhouses, saloon, pitches(?) and whiskey bar (some assembly required- you > bring your liver, we'll supply the pickling juice). Yehaw! > > We're looking for (16 teams of) outlaws and bounty hunters, lone rangers > and high planes drifters, the bad and the ugly (the good are all dead by > now anyway). There's only one lawman in this town and there's only one > law: if they move....kill 'em. > > The Sherrif's mighty fast on the trigger (but he takes his time on the > draw). Send him your money - cheques (80 GBP/team) to: > > Sheriff Adam Milner > Top Fold Farm > Haigh Moor Rd > Tingley > Leeds > WF3 1EJ > > > If you've ever fancied being a contender, this is your chance. Strap on > your gun. Take a shot. Take another. And see us on Boot Hill, in > Glastonbury. > > > Enquiries to substance-abuse@egroups.com. Rock on. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 14:54:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MDqm124653 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:52:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MDqkw24644 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:52:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MDqaY18627 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:52:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29533 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:52:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from B14A-14.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14a-14.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.84]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e5MDqZB22842 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:52:35 +0100 (BST) From: Neil Pennington Reply-To: nap197@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour 3 Directions Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:52:35 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5MDqlw24646 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There seem to have been a lot of problems with the directions sent to teams in the post, so enclosed below are directions to Tour 3 in Southampton this weekend. There is also a map in Word '97 format I can send to those who request it, but it is a large file and I won't clog up everyones e-mail accounts by sending it to Britdisc. See you all at the weekend marv > From the West · Approach Southampton Eastbound on the M27 · Turn off at Junction 5. Signposted 'A335' and 'Airport' · Take first exit off roundabout. Signposted 'Sports Grounds' and 'Chandlers Ford' · There is a no left turn, to the road you want so you will need to go about a mile up the round and do a U-turn at the mini-roundabout at the end. · Heading back towards the motorway, turn right into Stoneham Lane. Signposted 'St Nicolas Church' and 'Sports Grounds' · Follow bend round and Entrance to Wellington is on the right immediately after the church. >From the East · Approaching Southampton Westbound on the M27 · Turn off at Junction 5. NB. There is no junction 6. · Take the third exit off the roundabout northbound. Signposted 'Sports Grounds' and 'Chandlers Ford' · There is a no left turn, to the round you want so you will need to go about a mile up the round and do a U-turn at the mini-roundabout at the end. · Heading back towards the motorway, turn right into Stoneham Lane. Signposted 'St Nicolas Church' and 'Sports Grounds' · Follow bend round and Entrance to Wellington is on the right immediately after the church. >From the North · Approaching Southampton Southbound on the M3 · Follow the M3 all the way to its end where it turns into the M27 · Stay to the right and take the M27 East · Turn off the M27 at Junction 5. Signposted 'A335' and 'Airport' · Take first exit off roundabout. Signposted 'Sports Grounds' and 'Chandlers Ford' · There is a no left turn, to the round you want so you will need to go about a mile up the round and do a U-turn at the mini-roundabout at the end. · Heading back towards the motorway, turn right into Stoneham Lane. Signposted 'St Nicolas Church' and 'Sports Grounds' · Follow bend round and Entrance to Wellington is on the right immediately after the church. By Rail Southampton Airport Parkway is the nearest station. It is opposite Wide Lane and a ten/fifteen minute walk from Wellington. To walk to Wellington turn left out of the main terminal building and turn right at the roundabout. At the next roundabout take the first right. Then take the first left and follow the road round. Wellington is on the right straight after the church. Alternatively you could walk across Wide Lane and use the stile in the back right hand corner as you look at it from the station. Once over the style cross the stream and take the road almost straight ahead, Wellington is on your right round the bend. Alternatively there should be Taxis coming and going to pick up the commuters from the London trains. You want Wellington Sports Ground, Stoneham Lane. ---------------------- Neil Pennington nap197@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 15:56:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MErVN14122 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:53:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MErRw14076 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:53:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f316.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.191]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5MErLR00244 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:53:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 83811 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2000 14:53:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20000622145311.83810.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.24.71.28 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:53:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.24.71.28] From: "Paul Ruff" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Exeter Hat Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:53:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Can I just confirm that juniors are not allowed to enter certain tournaments. One boy from our school who is training for the junior world championships this year was turned away from the Exeter Hat tournament last weekend. I try desperately to get games for our team with no success so it was a shame that a tournament in our home town was not accessible for this player. I continue to look for games or invitations to play in other tournaments, as I really do feel that youngsters are the future for Ultimate. If it is to continue to grow and be successful they should be given every opportunity to participate. Junior events are few and far between and asking 15year olds to travel 200miles is a little unrealistic. Every month I lose one or two to football or rugby clubs as they get frustrated with not playing competitive matches. I'm not really sure what I'm saying, just that if young people are turned away from events then they may not come back. In order for Ultimate to be taken seriously then as much opportunity as possible must be given for young people to play. Obviously young players should be of specific standard before they can play in adult competitions but as Ultimate is supposedly for everyone to play and enjoy, can there be a criteria other than age for entry into such competitions. Paul Ruff (Teacher of PE) St Peters High School, Exeter ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 17:31:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MGSfp10595 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:28:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MGSdw10590 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:28:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MGSdR13678 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:28:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from zoobas01.zoo.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.111.81] helo=ZOOBAS01) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 1359qA-00039a-00; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:28:30 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Sasha Dall" To: "Paul Ruff" , Subject: RE: Exeter Hat Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:29:12 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20000622145311.83810.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >One boy from our school who is training for the junior world championships >this year was turned away from the Exeter Hat tournament last weekend. Why would anyone (let alone the rare schoolboy ultimate player) be turned away from a hat tourney?! In my days as a beginner (yes, I can still remember them), hat tourneys were a valuable source of experience, allowing me to play with gods/goddesses (they probably don't remember who they are) and get to know my peers (this is especially valuable for beginners who cannot otherwise play with experienced players).. I presume such events still have a beginner's category-- so why should age matter? Chairs, Sasha (Doughboy) ------------------------------------------------------ Department of Zoology University of Cambridge Downing Street Cambridge, CB2 3EJ, UK Tel: +44 1223 336678 Fax: +1 240 3688208 Email: SashaDall@iname.com http://www.zoo.cam.ac.uk/zoostaff/larg/pages/SASHA.HTM ------------------------------------------------------ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 17:41:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MGeEp12875 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:40:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MGeCw12865 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:40:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.BMPDDB.COM (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MGeBY13359 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:40:11 +0100 (BST) Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:40:07 +0100 Message-ID: <12ABA23297FBD31183C60008C786586A526C9B@polaris.bmpddb.com> From: David.Trovell@omduk.com To: paulruff@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Exeter Hat Rant Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:39:59 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <12ABA23297FBD31183C60008C786586A526C9B@polaris.bmpddb.com> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is unbelievable. How can a GB junior player be turned away from an 'open' hat tournament. I have no doubt that he was a better player than many at the tournament. Can someone please name and shame the person who turned him away. I've no idea why only half the players in this country are keen to grow the sport. Several juniors play alongside experienced GB players at the London Summer League, if we don't harness young British talent in this way there is no chance for future GB Ultimate teams. Rant over Dave (UTI) > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ruff [SMTP:paulruff@hotmail.com] > Sent: 22 June 2000 15:53 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Exeter Hat > > Dear all, > > Can I just confirm that juniors are not allowed to enter certain > tournaments. > One boy from our school who is training for the junior world championships > > this year was turned away from the Exeter Hat tournament last weekend. > I try desperately to get games for our team with no success so it was a > shame that a tournament in our home town was not accessible for this > player. > I continue to look for games or invitations to play in other tournaments, > as > I really do feel that youngsters are the future for Ultimate. If it is to > continue to grow and be successful they should be given every opportunity > to > participate. Junior events are few and far between and asking 15year olds > to > travel 200miles is a little unrealistic. Every month I lose one or two to > football or rugby clubs as they get frustrated with not playing > competitive > matches. > I'm not really sure what I'm saying, just that if young people are turned > away from events then they may not come back. In order for Ultimate to be > taken seriously then as much opportunity as possible must be given for > young > people to play. Obviously young players should be of specific standard > before they can play in adult competitions but as Ultimate is supposedly > for > everyone to play and enjoy, can there be a criteria other than age for > entry > into such competitions. > > Paul Ruff > (Teacher of PE) St Peters High School, Exeter > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(@@0`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06``P`.````T`<&`!8` M$0`G`#L`!`!J`0$@@`,`#@```-`'!@`6`!$`*``&``0`-@$!"8`!`"$````W M0C1%130X-31%-#A$-#$Q.#-$.#`P,#A#-S@V-3@V00`2!P$$@`$`%````%)% M.B!%>&5T97(@2&%T(%)A;G0`4`8!#8`$``(````"``(``0.0!@!@#```+P`` M``,`-@```````P`7@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````4H4``'00```>`!B` M""`&``````#`````````1@````!4A0```0````4````X+C`R``````,`"(`( M(`8``````,````````!&``````&%````````"P``@`@@!@``````P``````` M`$8``````X4````````+`!V`""`&``````#`````````1@`````.A0`````` M``,``H`((`8``````,````````!&`````!"%`````````P`>@`@@!@`````` MP````````$8`````$84````````#`""`""`&``````#`````````1@`````8 MA0```````!X`+X`((`8``````,````````!&`````#:%```!`````0`````` M```>`#"`""`&``````#`````````1@`````WA0```0````$`````````'@`Q M@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````.(4```$````!``````````(!"1`!```` M]08``/$&``#M"@``3%I&=?&;_T,#``H```C`N M($D>L78<\-!N;R!D"&!B'N$>POYH'/`=D`0@&[`:(`)`'+'_''4@P0.@`X$= ML![2(1$?"=4:U$,#D7,#<&4"(!SP?0M092%0(!$?41X1'6!S?Q#0)?$C4AYP M$/`"("$P:'\@0!T5&9`>`1V1&L4:U$GZ)R`$:0$`&[`G$>\2`)P!M!>2-2"H((!J/M%$QT5X^Q$0'+%('M!!/T)*/?08$+(!RQ=;HM8ASAO5@E86+!)-`& M<0A@Z,"Y&Z1K4%($``;O``````P`F```````#`"X` M``````L``@`!````'@!P``$````+````17AE=&5R($AA=````@%Q``$````; M`````;_<97H;A>1+Q4A.$=2#V``(QX98:@``,AF``!X`0A`!````*0```#PR M,#`P,#8R,C$T-3,Q,2XX,S@Q,"YQ;6%I;$!H;W1M86EL+F-O;3X`````0``Y M`%"4B8%HW+\!`P#Q/PD$```>`#%``0````T```!$059)1%123U9%3$P````` M`P`:0``````>`#!``0````T```!$059)1%123U9%3$P``````P`90``````# M`/T_Y`0```,`@!#_____`@%'``$````M````8SU'0CMA/2`[<#U$1$([;#U0 M3TQ!4DE3+3`P,#8R,C$V,SDU.5HM.3$P-SD``````@'Y/P$```!(```````` M`-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!`````````"]//41$0B]/53U"35`O0TX]4D5# M25!)14Y44R]#3CU$059)1%123U9%3$P`'@#X/P$````.````1&%V:60@5')O M=F5L;````!X`.$`!````#0```$1!5DE$5%)/5D5,3``````"`?L_`0```$@` M````````W*=`R,!"$!JTN0@`*R_A@@$`````````+T\]1$1"+T]5/4)-4"]# M3CU214-)4$E%3E13+T-./41!5DE$5%)/5D5,3``>`/H_`0````X```!$879I M9"!4; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:16:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from rw-gw-01.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MHGDY16788 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:16:14 +0100 (BST) Received: by rw-gw-01.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:15:40 -0700 Message-ID: <61C392E65B04D411897400062938B3E828272B@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Exeter Hat Rant Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:15:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Several juniors play alongside experienced GB players at the > London Summer League And a Junior (Toby) played with DDG at the Mixed Tour in Cambridge and helped us get 5th place. -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 18:19:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MHIXk21520 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:18:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MHIUw21502 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:18:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MHIUY17018 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:18:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (cst369.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.59]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24409; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:18:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <39524A60.6FC9F544@york.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:18:24 +0100 From: Aftershock Organization: york.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc , jbc102@york.ac.uk Subject: Re:Exeter Hat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This beggars belief. as one of the older Juniors (I'm at Uni) I would assume I was considered old enough to play at such an event. Not allowing my younger and better team-mates to play is stupid. Sam (Doughboy) and Ali Topping are a hell of a lot better than the majority of players on Tour. If Ultimate wants to flourish as a sport, it needs to encourage all the youngsters it can. I know if I'd been turned away from a tournament purely on the basis of my age, I'd probably have thought f*ck it and played something else. There is a lot to be learned from this shameful episode. Jaimie Cross YBK, Swamp Donkeys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 18:49:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MHlp027331 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:47:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MHllw27319 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:47:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from webshield2.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5MHlZR23197 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:47:38 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM ca-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY webshield2.nai.com ; Thu Jun 22 10:50:34 2000 -0700 Received: by na-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:49:45 -0700 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F03CF3097@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Exeter Hat Rant Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:44:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can we have some input from the Exeter Hat Tournament Director? My current team (Learning Curve) has 1 junior on permanent roster here, and we have a couple that practice with us also - there are no restrictions in this area (Bay Area, CA) as to whether you can have Juniors on your team or not, and certainly no restrictions at the Hat tournaments. Cads -----Original Message----- From: Travers, Neil [mailto:Neil.Travers@BroadVision.com] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:16 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Exeter Hat Rant > Several juniors play alongside experienced GB players at the > London Summer League And a Junior (Toby) played with DDG at the Mixed Tour in Cambridge and helped us get 5th place. -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 19:31:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MIT0104447 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:29:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MISww04442 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:28:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MISwY22287 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:28:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from p129-harc2-kirklees2.tch.dtn.ntl.com ([194.168.246.99] helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 135BZp-00065e-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:19:46 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bfd93f$6b1b9500$63f6a8c2@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: References: <20000622145311.83810.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Exeter Hat Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:08:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I could list loads of players that have been under 18 in the last 2 years, that at that age could have easily played at the Exeter Hat. Just because there young does not mean they're crap. Ali and Sammy are already some of the countries top players, and they're only 16. Chris Berry of Druids has also played Juniors in the last few years, plus loads of others, would they have been turned away? I can understand if it's a requirement of the venue, but shouldn't we be picking venues available to all if that's the case? If it is the choice of an individual then that is absolutely disgusting. It's just as bad as sexism or racism. Ultimate prides itself on its fairness and equality, and if this player has been turned away just because they're 15 years old, then I think someone ought to be offering an apology. Matt Swamp Donkeys ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Ruff To: Sent: 22 June 2000 15:53 Subject: Exeter Hat > Dear all, > > Can I just confirm that juniors are not allowed to enter certain > tournaments. > One boy from our school who is training for the junior world championships > this year was turned away from the Exeter Hat tournament last weekend. > I try desperately to get games for our team with no success so it was a > shame that a tournament in our home town was not accessible for this player. > I continue to look for games or invitations to play in other tournaments, as > I really do feel that youngsters are the future for Ultimate. If it is to > continue to grow and be successful they should be given every opportunity to > participate. Junior events are few and far between and asking 15year olds to > travel 200miles is a little unrealistic. Every month I lose one or two to > football or rugby clubs as they get frustrated with not playing competitive > matches. > I'm not really sure what I'm saying, just that if young people are turned > away from events then they may not come back. In order for Ultimate to be > taken seriously then as much opportunity as possible must be given for young > people to play. Obviously young players should be of specific standard > before they can play in adult competitions but as Ultimate is supposedly for > everyone to play and enjoy, can there be a criteria other than age for entry > into such competitions. > > Paul Ruff > (Teacher of PE) St Peters High School, Exeter > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 22 22:57:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5MLsAB09073 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:54:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MLs9w09059 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:54:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5MLs0R07918 for ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:54:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 135Ev5-0005TB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:53:55 +0100 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 135Ev9-0005Pi-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:53:59 +0100 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:53:54 +0100 Message-ID: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE027165CC@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: re: Exeter Hat Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:53:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk aright all! I was at the hat at the weekend, and it was wicked!! I am certain that no one was turned away without a really really good reason, so lets stop speculating till we know what happened! like I say, it was great fun, beautiful weather and pitches and stuff like that. The pub in the evening was wicked, as was watching the footy on a big tv. anyways, see y'all laters tom From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 23 13:26:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5NCNbw15367 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:23:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5NCNZw15348 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:23:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f269.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.47]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5NCNTY10647 for ; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:23:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 31659 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2000 12:23:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000623122322.31658.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 213.120.56.53 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 05:23:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [213.120.56.53] From: "Dave Hillier" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Exeter Hat rumours! Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:23:22 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello all. As director/organiser of Exeter Hat I am a bit confused where the rumour that we turned away a Junior player has come from. We did no such thing we let anyone who wanted to play join in and had several people playing who had no experience whatsoever. Anyone who played in tournament will tell you it was open to all standards of players, age regardless. We were a little low on numbers due to Leeds Co-ed tournament and would have welcomed anyone, especially local players. I hope this clears up the situation. Dave ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 25 19:52:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5PIn6u11792 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:49:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5PIn4w11783 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:49:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f199.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.199]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5PIn4R16813 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:49:04 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 83580 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jun 2000 18:48:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20000625184856.83579.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.1.135.98 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:48:56 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.1.135.98] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Technical Question Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:48:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Despite being an engineering student, I'm a little puzzled: Why do ultimate discs fly straight, whereas "overstable" golf discs fade away to the left (for a right-handed backhand) ? Can someone help? Thanks Antony (Back from the US... ex-Oregon State Beavers) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jun 25 23:50:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5PMlCH05258 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5PMlAw05245 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5PMlAR24118 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.126.155.5] (helo=default) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 136LBD-0000E8-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:08 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01bfdef7$4aab6c60$059b7ed4@default> From: "er2de2" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:29:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday = morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents = Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that = allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five = points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a = seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... Questions: Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven = players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is = a rule required?=20 Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of = 12, given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a = six-day tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can = see the it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton = is a two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player = for what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, = call the ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' = health: Does this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And = what happens if a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do = they have to forfeit their remaining games? =20 Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late = starts of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable = here, after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if = they had to play 6 vs. 7.=20 MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to = play an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? = BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope = you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where = were you in all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't = you >play< the game to find out? Comments welcome. Tammo Playing for Chevron Action Flash Speaking for myself P.S. 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Because some Deep South Mentality = players were late=20 for their Sunday morning game, DSM could at first field only six = players.=20 Their opponents Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some = obscure=20 rule that allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed = BAF to=20 take five points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM = finally having=20 a seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the = game...
 
Questions:
 
Where is it written that thou shalt = have your full=20 contingent of seven players on the line at the start of a game? And more = importantly, WHY is a rule required? 
Is it health reasons? For World Clubs = there is a=20 minimum squad size of 12, given the exceptional physical demands on the = players=20 during a six-day tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at = least=20 you can see the it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. = Southampton=20 is a two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player = for=20 what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call = the=20 ambulance! Also, following the logic = of=20 protecting players' health: Does this mean Iron Man tournaments are = henceforth=20 outlawed? And what happens if a squad = of eight=20 loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit their remaining = games?
 
Is this rule required to run the = tournament=20 smoothly, to prevent late starts of games, penalise teams not showing = up, etc. ?=20 Not applicable here, after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's = their=20 problem if they had to play 6 vs. 7.
 
MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of = mindset makes=20 Blue Arse Flies refuse to play an opponent, knowing that this way they = can get=20 points for free? BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your = decision, and=20 I hope you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris = Hughes,=20 where were you in all this? Yes, = maybe you would=20 have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the game to find=20 out?
 
 
Comments welcome.
 
Tammo
Playing for Chevron Action=20 Flash
Speaking for myself
 
 
P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end = because of=20 this episode.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFDEFD.241F81C0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 07:48:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5Q6l3W17808 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q6l2w17802 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q6l2R06241 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA12810 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:47:01 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200006260647.HAA12810@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 1st July 2000 Culture Clash (2 days) @ Hoting, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Women's Outdoor Nationals (2 days) @ Wellington Sports Ground, Southampton [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Sally Pennington (Skunks) Email sal Phone 023 8067 8147 Contact Vanessa White (Women's Co-ordinator) Address 15 Courtlands 17 Court Downs Road Beckenham Kent BR3 6LN Email v.c.white@tesco.net Phone 020 8663 4856 Saturday 8th July 2000 GB Training (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate Practice] Please note that this is a provisional date - it may be a 1-day or a 2-day session. The Division Managers will provide more details when they are known. Contact Relevant Division Manager Swedish Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Stockholm, Sweden [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! 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Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 09:27:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5Q8Pnj01699 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:25:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q8Plw01688 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:25:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5Q8PkR13082 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:25:46 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA24527; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:25:40 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B568@GB-CHW-MAIL2> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: tammo@freeuk.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:25:32 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In support of the BAF open team (and this is my own opinion and not because I am part of BAF mixed) I agree with their decision not to play unless a full opposing team was fielded. There is a big difference between playing against a team of 6 players if they only started out with 8 and have 2 injuries, and therefore being spirited, and playing against a team of 6 players because one of them didn't get up in time (or whatever - was there actually a more serious reason? If so then maybe this should have been mentioned). Its about time a team stood up and started taking the rules seriously (assuming that a team has the right to refuse to play unless a full opposition is fielded). Surely if you are in the top 12 teams of the tour then every game counts and this should be reflected by the teams showing full commitment to each and every one. Ultimate will never be taken seriously by outsiders if it is not taken seriously by the players. Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with 10 men because not enough people turned up on time? The whole thing would be a mockery. I think that is about all. Suze BAF mixed -----Original Message----- From: er2de2 [mailto:tammo@freeuk.com] Sent: 26 June 2000 00:10 To: BRITDISC Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... Questions: Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is a rule required? Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of 12, given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a six-day tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can see the it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton is a two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player for what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call the ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' health: Does this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And what happens if a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit their remaining games? Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late starts of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable here, after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if they had to play 6 vs. 7. MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to play an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the game to find out? Comments welcome. Tammo Playing for Chevron Action Flash Speaking for myself P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 09:58:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5Q8uvF09667 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:56:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q8utw09653 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:56:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.organic.com (mx1.organic.com [207.76.139.5]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q8usY14683 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:56:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from fwd1-sf.organic.com (fwd1-sf [207.76.139.9]) by mx1.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA08322; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1-lon.organic.com (bath.organic.com [192.168.136.7]) by fwd1-sf.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19226; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simonlaptop ([192.168.136.176]) by po1-lon.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA21844; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:57:16 GMT Message-ID: <001801bfdf4c$5b343580$b088a8c0@organic.com> From: "Simon Norris" To: , , References: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B568@GB-CHW-MAIL2> Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:56:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk we had a similar situation when we only had 6 against doughboy in T2. we knew they had the option to fine us points but out of good spirit they played 7 on 6. of course after about 5 minutes we were 5 down... Simon Hammerage ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > In support of the BAF open team (and this is my own opinion and not because > I am part of BAF mixed) I agree with their decision not to play unless a > full opposing team was fielded. > There is a big difference between playing against a team of 6 players if > they only started out with 8 and have 2 injuries, and therefore being > spirited, and playing against a team of 6 players because one of them didn't > get up in time (or whatever - was there actually a more serious reason? If > so then maybe this should have been mentioned). > Its about time a team stood up and started taking the rules seriously > (assuming that a team has the right to refuse to play unless a full > opposition is fielded). Surely if you are in the top 12 teams of the tour > then every game counts and this should be reflected by the teams showing > full commitment to each and every one. Ultimate will never be taken > seriously by outsiders if it is not taken seriously by the players. > Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with 10 men because not > enough people turned up on time? The whole thing would be a mockery. > I think that is about all. > > Suze > BAF mixed > > -----Original Message----- > From: er2de2 [mailto:tammo@freeuk.com] > Sent: 26 June 2000 00:10 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > > > Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday morning > game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse > Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that allegedly > applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off DSM > before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh yes, > BAF did proceed to win the game... > > Questions: > > Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven > players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is a > rule required? > > Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of 12, > given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a six-day > tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can see the > it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton is a > two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player for > what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call the > ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' health: Does > this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And what happens if > a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit > their remaining games? > > Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late starts > of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable here, after > all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if they had to play > 6 vs. 7. > > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to play > an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF > players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll > feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in > all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the > game to find out? > > > Comments welcome. > > Tammo > Playing for Chevron Action Flash > Speaking for myself > > > P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 09:59:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5Q8xPh10092 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:59:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q8xOw10086 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate01.e-mail.com (eugate01.e-mail.com [194.196.143.93]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5Q8wOY14865 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:59:24 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id IAA135468 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:49:44 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:53:54 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBF38BDA@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:53:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with 10 men because not > enough people turned up on time? The whole thing would be a mockery. Or indeed if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to call themselves the Blue Arse Flies. Alex Under The Influence All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 11:19:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QAHGX26559 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:17:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QAHAw26497 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:17:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QAH8R27276 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:17:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.122.196] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b7) with ESMTP id S.0000526277; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:20:47 +0100 Message-ID: <39572DA5.A9D8F738@deepend.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:17:12 +0100 From: Jim Jam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Notre Dame de Monts Hat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having had no response from the London based players, I thought I'd look a little futher afield for travelling / playing companions for this tourny. After all, I don't really want to go on my tod. ________________________________________________________________________________________ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/notre.dame.de.monts/ndpage7.htm#DiscConnection (scroll down for english version) Hi All I thought I'd be too late to register for this tourny as the date had passed, but I just got this back this morning and other places are still available! Notredam used to be inviation only to a few select teams but now it's open to individuals as a Hat tourny. If you don't know about this tourny, it's like no other. You spend all day chilling out (maybe drive to the beach) then come back in the afternoon to teach French kids how to play Ultimate. Then at night you play 1 (1!) game on a floodlit pitch infront of a PAYING CROWD!!! The glory potential is awesome. ;) I'm looking for anyone else who's already registered, or anyone else who wants to go. Minibus across the Channel for a fantastic holiday? Please get in touch Cheers Bes* Jes* ====== English Version ======= You are registered to the Open de Notre Dame De Monts (28Th July to 3rd August 2000). To confirm your registration, please pay the individual fees : 16 Euros with must be wired to this bank account (if you need the SWIFT code of the bank, please ask us): Bank : Credit Mutuel Place de l'eglise 85690 Notre Dame de Monts FRANCE Account : Older : Association Les Anges Des Monts account n°: 15519 85130 00003995081 27 or send directly your payment (with an Euro-Check) par mail to this address : Service Culturel Open ND - Mairie 85690 Notre Dame de Monts FRANCE We are waiting you on the 28Th of July (Friday) at the Municipal stadium to give you your team tee-shirt and your welcome gift ! ATTENTION, we remind you that this year, the accomodation will be at the municipal campsite, avenue Abbé Thibaut. The cost for the week is of 23 Euro per person and should be paied directly at the campsite office at the end of the tournament. (it's not inclued in the tournament fees) IMPORTANT, to reserve the camp site places, please confirm your participation and tell us if : - you have a tent, but just for yourself. - you have a tent, and can share it with others players (how many ?). - you don't have a tent and need some place on other players's tent. - you'll don't stay at the campsite and use your own accomodations. We'll make the players in contact in order to share the tents. For others type of accomodations, ask the Tourism Office of Notre Dame de Monts : +33.2.51.58.84.97. P.S.: There still many spots left. So don't esitate to talk of the Open at your friends. -- Jester | Usability Designer | Information Architect Deepend | 44-46 Scrutton Street | London | EC2A 4QL T +44 (0)20 7247 2999 | F +44 (0)20 7247 9996 E jester@deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 11:49:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QAmLQ03718 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:48:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QAmJw03700 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:48:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.82] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QAmIR01446 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:48:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA26180; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA00497; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA20068; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:47:37 +0100 (BST) Received: by exlon05.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:47:36 +0100 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0419FDE5@exlon05.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:47:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with 10 men because not enough people turned up on time? The whole thing would be a mockery." An odd thing happened last night, as I sat my aching, aged body down on the sofa to watch the second half of the France vs. Spain match, the teams lined up, the ref got ready, and then they stopped! France only had nine players on the pitch. The ref smiled, asked the Spanish player to wait and didn't award them any goals. About 3 minutes later Mr Zidane and a team-mate emerged from the locker room and took their places, then the ref signalled for the game to begin. Now I'm all for games beginning on time, but I think it is important to remember that we play this game for fun. If a team - which might or might not - have a good excuse is late, I feel being short handed is a sufficient penalty. And after having played this game for nearly 20 years, I have never been on a side that took points in this manner from another team. Why do I care? I was the reason the DSM's 7th man was late. As Simon and I prepared to leave my house on Sunday morning, my 3 year old son burst into tears when told he was not coming. The choice was simple, bring him along and be late, or leave him and be on time........... Aram - Doughboy PS: I also found no mention of this situation in the Tour rules! > -----Original Message----- > From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com > [SMTP:Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com] > Sent: 26 June 2000 09:26 > To: tammo@freeuk.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > > In support of the BAF open team (and this is my own opinion and not > because > I am part of BAF mixed) I agree with their decision not to play unless a > full opposing team was fielded. > There is a big difference between playing against a team of 6 players if > they only started out with 8 and have 2 injuries, and therefore being > spirited, and playing against a team of 6 players because one of them > didn't > get up in time (or whatever - was there actually a more serious reason? If > so then maybe this should have been mentioned). > Its about time a team stood up and started taking the rules seriously > (assuming that a team has the right to refuse to play unless a full > opposition is fielded). Surely if you are in the top 12 teams of the tour > then every game counts and this should be reflected by the teams showing > full commitment to each and every one. Ultimate will never be taken > seriously by outsiders if it is not taken seriously by the players. > Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with 10 men because not > enough people turned up on time? The whole thing would be a mockery. > I think that is about all. > > Suze > BAF mixed > > -----Original Message----- > From: er2de2 [mailto:tammo@freeuk.com] > Sent: 26 June 2000 00:10 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > > > Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday > morning > game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse > Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that allegedly > applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off DSM > before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh > yes, > BAF did proceed to win the game... > > Questions: > > Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven > players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is a > rule required? > > Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of 12, > given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a six-day > tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can see the > it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton is a > two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player for > what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call the > ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' health: Does > this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And what happens > if > a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit > their remaining games? > > Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late > starts > of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable here, after > all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if they had to > play > 6 vs. 7. > > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to > play > an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF > players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll > feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in > all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the > game to find out? > > > Comments welcome. > > Tammo > Playing for Chevron Action Flash > Speaking for myself > > > P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 12:24:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QBNAd11961 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:23:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QBN8w11953 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:23:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from web4303.mail.yahoo.com (web4303.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.195]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QBMwY06714 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:23:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000626112251.14838.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.131.191.2] by web4303.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:22:51 BST Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:22:51 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=20J?= Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation To: tammo@freeuk.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tammo, BAF lost 9 points to Soup the year before for exactly the same reason. maybe that answers your questions about mindset. your other questions are perhaps valid and should probably be considered. mj --- Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com wrote: > In support of the BAF open team (and this is my own > opinion and not because > I am part of BAF mixed) I agree with their decision > not to play unless a > full opposing team was fielded. > There is a big difference between playing against a > team of 6 players if > they only started out with 8 and have 2 injuries, > and therefore being > spirited, and playing against a team of 6 players > because one of them didn't > get up in time (or whatever - was there actually a > more serious reason? If > so then maybe this should have been mentioned). > Its about time a team stood up and started taking > the rules seriously > (assuming that a team has the right to refuse to > play unless a full > opposition is fielded). Surely if you are in the top > 12 teams of the tour > then every game counts and this should be reflected > by the teams showing > full commitment to each and every one. Ultimate will > never be taken > seriously by outsiders if it is not taken seriously > by the players. > Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with > 10 men because not > enough people turned up on time? The whole thing > would be a mockery. > I think that is about all. > > Suze > BAF mixed > > -----Original Message----- > From: er2de2 [mailto:tammo@freeuk.com] > Sent: 26 June 2000 00:10 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its > exploitation > > > Because some Deep South Mentality players were late > for their Sunday morning > game, DSM could at first field only six players. > Their opponents Blue Arse > Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure > rule that allegedly > applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take > five points off DSM > before play eventually started, DSM finally having a > seventh player. Oh yes, > BAF did proceed to win the game... > > Questions: > > Where is it written that thou shalt have your full > contingent of seven > players on the line at the start of a game? And more > importantly, WHY is a > rule required? > > Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a > minimum squad size of 12, > given the exceptional physical demands on the > players during a six-day > tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at > least you can see the > it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. > Southampton is a > two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be > short of a player for > what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? > Shock, horror, call the > ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting > players' health: Does > this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth > outlawed? And what happens if > a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do > they have to forfeit > their remaining games? > > Is this rule required to run the tournament > smoothly, to prevent late starts > of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not > applicable here, after > all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their > problem if they had to play > 6 vs. 7. > > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue > Arse Flies refuse to play > an opponent, knowing that this way they can get > points for free? BAF > players, I hope you'll be thinking about your > decision, and I hope you'll > feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris > Hughes, where were you in > all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why > didn't you >play< the > game to find out? > > > Comments welcome. > > Tammo > Playing for Chevron Action Flash > Speaking for myself > > > P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of > this episode. > > > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 12:55:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QBrXw19933 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:53:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QBrVw19921 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:53:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QBrPR09216 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:53:25 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA19238 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:41:57 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:41:57 +0100 Message-Id: <001601bfdf65$99d901d0$be17010a@w046901.uk.zurich.com> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Flores, Aram" , Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:56:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aram Wrote : > >PS: I also found no mention of this situation in the Tour rules! > I seem to remember (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that this exact situation was specifically mentioned in the Tournament Rules that were distributed at the Captains meeting on Saturday morning (sorry but I don't have the precise wording to hand). This does raise the question about "standardising" tournament rules across ALL tournaments- but that's a different issue Balti BAF 34 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com >> [SMTP:Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com] >> Sent: 26 June 2000 09:26 >> To: tammo@freeuk.com; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >> Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation >> >> In support of the BAF open team (and this is my own opinion and not >> because >> I am part of BAF mixed) I agree with their decision not to play unless a >> full opposing team was fielded. >> There is a big difference between playing against a team of 6 players if >> they only started out with 8 and have 2 injuries, and therefore being >> spirited, and playing against a team of 6 players because one of them >> didn't >> get up in time (or whatever - was there actually a more serious reason? If >> so then maybe this should have been mentioned). >> Its about time a team stood up and started taking the rules seriously >> (assuming that a team has the right to refuse to play unless a full >> opposition is fielded). Surely if you are in the top 12 teams of the tour >> then every game counts and this should be reflected by the teams showing >> full commitment to each and every one. Ultimate will never be taken >> seriously by outsiders if it is not taken seriously by the players. >> Imagine if a team in Euro 2000 wanted to start with 10 men because not >> enough people turned up on time? The whole thing would be a mockery. >> I think that is about all. >> >> Suze >> BAF mixed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: er2de2 [mailto:tammo@freeuk.com] >> Sent: 26 June 2000 00:10 >> To: BRITDISC >> Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation >> >> >> Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday >> morning >> game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse >> Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that allegedly >> applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off DSM >> before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh >> yes, >> BAF did proceed to win the game... >> >> Questions: >> >> Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven >> players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is a >> rule required? >> >> Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of 12, >> given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a six-day >> tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can see the >> it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton is a >> two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player for >> what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call the >> ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' health: Does >> this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And what happens >> if >> a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit >> their remaining games? >> >> Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late >> starts >> of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable here, after >> all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if they had to >> play >> 6 vs. 7. >> >> MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to >> play >> an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF >> players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll >> feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in >> all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the >> game to find out? >> >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> Tammo >> Playing for Chevron Action Flash >> Speaking for myself >> >> >> P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. >> >> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 13:28:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QCQrL28666 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:26:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QCQow28656 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:26:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QCQoY18448 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:26:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Mon Jun 26 05:26:32 2000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:26:32 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm hoping that the 'rule' to which Tammo refers is: Should a team be unable to field 7 players at the scheduled start of the game, their opposition may refuse to play against them until seven players are available. In the meantime, the undermanned team have five minutes grace, and then lose points at the rate of one per minute. (As cited to me by Chris Hughes, at Swindon, when Chevvy were a mite worried that they may not have seven for their first game...) TR> Where is it written that thou shalt have your TR> full contingent of seven players on the line at TR> the start of a game? AF> PS: I also found no mention of this situation in AF> the Tour rules! This troubles me... I can't find the black-and-white proof either. I'm not sure that the Tour Rules would really be the place to look (they don't really deal with the specifics of game length, halftimes, timeouts, etc) and/but I know that this rule (with various tweaks) gets used at other events... and it's not WFDF, 'cos (I've just checked and) they don't deal with the triviality of a lack of players. It's generally used because there isn't enough available time to just delay the game without havng undesired knock-on effects throughout the rest of the tournament. I agree that, if such a rule is to be available, it *should* be specified somewhere - even if it's just in the tournament rules (along with things like exactly how long the timeouts and halftime is at this event!) TR> And more importantly, WHY is a rule required? Well, here the argument goes both ways... one the one hand, Ultimate is supposed to be a seven-aside sport (that IS in the Rules), and teams should be organised enough to have sufficient numbers (even after injury!), but on the other, it's just a game, we do it for fun, and a team brings on it's own punishment by being short on numbers... It has been known that a game has been delayed due to late arrival of one team, no points have been accrued in the wait, and that that late team has then gone on to win the game in the remaining available time. Is this fair? Does this not encourage talented but undermanned teams to be late, and then win before the fatigue sets in? [If, in Aram's example, there hadn't been any extra players in the locker room, would that match have proceeded? Would that undermanned team have been allowed to continue? Would that team have been heavily fined?] At another recent tournament, the eventual tournament champions were short of players for BOTH their Saturday and Sunday morning (Quarter Final!) games. This *could* (should?) have lost them the tournament, but their opposition wanted to play, rather than hang around grumbling... Should this be allowed? Personally, I think not. I want to play Ultimate with 14 healthy players on pitch for each point, and I think that teams and their players should be committed enough to ensure that they have the numbers to be able to achieve this, taking into account that they may loose some to injury on the day. Then again, I also think that my view is tainted by too much experience of running tournaments and having teams gripe about their opposition not being organised enough to bring enough players along to each game, making the situation somewhat farcical. Sadly, I also feel that teams that can't field sufficient numbers, at the required times, is a large part of the difference between "Ultimate, fun with frisbees" and "Ultimate, The Sport". Both have a place, but with the development that has already occured, attempting to mix the two will not keep everybody happy. Wayne expressing my own mixed opinion. --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com Fluid Druids __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 13:59:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QCw3b07267 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:58:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QCw1w07249 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:58:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QCw0Y23846 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:58:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:57:58 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26920; Mon, 26 Jun 00 13:57:56 BST Message-Id: <10006261257.AA26920@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:57:54 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation In-Reply-To: <002a01bfdef7$4aab6c60$059b7ed4@default> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On a point of information, I'd like it to be noted that the core of DSM are last years Phat'ed team, and it was these who were quite happy to assess points against Wyld Stallyns at Tour 2 last year after they arrived a few minutes late, so its not as if DSM were unaware of how these things work. As to the mindset of BAF, perhaps it was that of a team who have organised themselves to have a full team on the line at the appropriate starting time and felt they deserved the respect of their opponents doing the same. Not too great a demand (in my opinion anyway) when camping is provided only yards from the pitch and with the schedule being so readily available on Saturday night. I think it's important to note that DSM haven't made any complaint as to their treatment (AFAIK), they were also quick to represent themselves to Red (their next scheduled opponents after BAF) with the news that they couldn't field a full team and would have to concede the game and with an offer to play the game on a fun basis if it was wished, Peter Connor Red but speaking only for myself > Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to play an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the game to find out? > > > Comments welcome. > > Tammo > Playing for Chevron Action Flash > Speaking for myself From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 14:08:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QD7cX10503 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:07:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QD7Yw10491 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:07:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from congo.cherwell.com (mailhost.cherwell.com [193.82.249.202]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QD7JY25615 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:07:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mann ([193.82.249.243]) by congo.cherwell.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-61953U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:07:06 +0100 Message-ID: <046001bfdf6f$6e1c1000$f3f952c1@cherwell.com> Reply-To: "Paul Meaney" From: "Paul Meaney" To: References: <20000626112251.14838.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:07:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > BAF lost 9 points to Soup the year before for exactly > the same reason. maybe that answers your questions > about mindset. > > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue > > Arse Flies refuse to play > > an opponent, knowing that this way they can get > > points for free? BAF Britdisc and all, As vice captain of SOUP at the time the BAF incident occurred , it was my call and my decision to invoke the no show/ take points rule (which WAS written down somewhere, as both myself and Chris Hughes were aware of it). This was done with full consent of the SOUP captain. The matter was discussed with Chris Hughes and here is what happened (I'm sure Chris will either support or refute this: ) At tour III in Edinburgh, the sunday morning game was a vital (for SOUP) cross over game against BAF. After a poor performance on the saturday, SOUP were warmed up, on the line and ready to play the 9:00 am game. BAF could not field the required number of players and could offer no valid reason (eg injury) why their team was not present on time. It was felt that BAF were not offering consideration to their opponents in such an important game. In speaking with Chris Huges he offered to play sixes. Given the importance and nature of the crossover game we were playing, it was felt that BAF had an obligation to field a full team, so the offer was declined. BAF conceded to this and after an agreement on the time, BAF proceeded to use up all their available time outs. When this was finished a second time agreement was reached and SOUP proceeded to take a point a minute. When all was said and done, I think we went into the game either 9 or 10 nil up, and proceeded to trade for the remainder of the game. If both teams had been there in their entirety from the beginning it would have been a cracking game, and one that all players there agreed was resolved in an unfortunate manner. Can I say for the record that BAF accepted the points penalty with spirit and it's fair to say they got their own back on SOUP in later tournaments. But all games against BAF were belters! re: Arams point, I have seen this done before - in a standard pool game between Village People and French Connection at Rotterdam about five years ago. I have a feeling I have seen it also in the UK, but I cannot remember the specifics. > > feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris > > Hughes, where were you in On the contrary, I feel it is unspirited if a team shows with less than the required number of players. IMHO it shows a lack of respect and spirit towards your opponents and the nature of the Tour. Ultimate is a seven a side game after all, and the Tour is meant to be the flagship tournament where top teams get proper competition played to the full understanding of the latest WFDF rules? Or am I putting the event on a bit of a pedestal? Paul speaking from a getting-hazier-by-the-minute memory --- --- Dr Paul Meaney | e-mail: p.meaney@familygenetix.com Software Engineer | Phone: +44 (0)1865 784800 ext. 4839 FamilyGenetix Ltd | Fax: +44 (0)1865 784801 Oxford OX4 4GA, UK | URL: http://www.cherwell.com --- --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 15:34:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QEWhd02379 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:32:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QEWfw02352 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:32:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f330.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.208]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QEWeR03870 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:32:41 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 85980 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 14:32:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626143233.85979.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.83.240.39 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:32:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.83.240.39] From: "michael grant" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: canadian contact Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:32:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk if anyone knows of an email address for fergus (from montreal) i would appreciate a response. cheers mike grant ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 15:52:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QEp9h09081 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:51:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QEp7w09072 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:51:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QEp7R05764 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:51:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snailsden.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 136aE7-0007Ay-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:51:07 +0100 Received: from SNAILSDEN/SpoolDir by snailsden.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 26 Jun 00 15:51:06 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by SNAILSDEN (Mercury 1.46); 26 Jun 00 15:50:53 +0100 From: "Jes" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:50:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation In-reply-to: <10006261257.AA26920@damson.open.ac.uk> References: <002a01bfdef7$4aab6c60$059b7ed4@default> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > On a point of information, I'd like it to be noted that the core of > DSM are last years Phat'ed team, and it was these who were quite > happy to assess points against Wyld Stallyns at Tour 2 last year > after they arrived a few minutes late, so its not as if DSM were > unaware of how these things work. On this point I would just like to clarify that DSM may consist of a lot of old phat 'eds, but none of us were involved with the decision to take points off you as none of us are familiar enough with the rules to take such a stance. I will however admit that it was DSM's fault for not having 7 on the line at the start of the game but personally there is nothing I can do to ensure that all my team members are on time. I'm dissapointed in them for the lack of commitment shown and if the rules state that points can be deducted for not being on time then I can't argue with that. On the other hand I feel that it would have been a nice and spirited gesture for BAF to allow us to start the game with 6 players. We would have been a man down and should logically have been a few points down when our other players would have arrived. The only reason BAF could provide for not allowing us to start with 6 was that it had been done to them before so they would now do it to us. I'm sorry it had to come down to this. This is clearly a rule that needs to be addressed and stated once and for all so everyone knows what will happen if you don't field 7 players on time. Jesper DSM > As to the mindset of BAF, perhaps it was that of a team who have > organised themselves to have a full team on the line at the > appropriate starting time and felt they deserved the respect of their > opponents doing the same. Not too great a demand (in my opinion > anyway) when camping is provided only yards from the pitch and > with the schedule being so readily available on Saturday night. > > I think it's important to note that DSM haven't made any complaint > as to their treatment (AFAIK), they were also quick to represent > themselves to Red (their next scheduled opponents after BAF) with > the news that they couldn't field a full team and would have to > concede the game and with an offer to play the game on a fun > basis if it was wished, > > Peter Connor > Red > but speaking only for myself > > > Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing so me obscure rule that allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off > DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... > > > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to play an opponent, knowin g that this way they can get points for free? BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your dec ision, and I hope you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in > all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the game to find out? > > > > > > Comments welcome. > > > > Tammo > > Playing for Chevron Action Flash > > Speaking for myself > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 16:33:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QFWWP20490 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:32:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QFWTw20462 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:32:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.gradwell.com (IDENT:qmailr@mail.gradwell.com [194.205.225.96]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QFWTR11024 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:32:29 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 26692 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 15:32:28 -0000 Received: from cornet.ntli.net (HELO ntlidev28) (212.250.12.246) by mail.gradwell.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 15:32:28 -0000 Message-ID: <074f01bfdf84$84a90610$fa05750a@hook.private.cableol.net> From: "Tim Blair" To: "Student Ultimate" , "BritDisc" References: Subject: Student Regional Indoor Tournaments Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:37:34 +0100 Organization: Mwnci See Ultimate - http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Right, First of all, I apologise to those of you whom this mail is of no interest to. I guess it's about time something was set up and organised for the next scholastic year's indoor regionals. As the new Student Co-ordinator, it's down to me to sort it out, so here we go... So far, I have had the following proposals for running tournaments : SE : Mohawks (Brighton) SW : Skunks (Southampton) Midlands : Purple Haze (Loughborough) North : Jedi (Leeds) Yorkie Bar Kids (York) Fish (Lancaster) Disciples (Bradford) I have yet to have any bid from the new Scottish region, who were the main instigators in the new regional setup, and assured us there would be plenty of teams willing to host the event... Unless there are any more bids for the SW, SE and Midlands, then those teams above will host their relevant events. Now, the problem is with the North... I would like a written proposal from each team wishing to host the event. Included in this should be information such as hall sizes/capacities, fascilities (eg food during the day), accomodation and party arragements. Now, I know that many universities may have finished for the year. However, unless there is a very good reason for not doing so, I would like all proposals to me by the 31st July. That gives you just over a month get it done. If all people planning the regional tournaments could please get in touch with me, I would be greatful. If anyone else has something to say, let me know. Tim. -- Tim Blair National Student Co-ordinator 2000-01 Mwnci See, Baboom, Point Blank http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ tim@mwncisee.co.uk . From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 16:49:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QFluY24959 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:47:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QFlsw24953 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:47:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from server-2.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QFlsR12981 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:47:54 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 18908 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 15:17:45 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-2.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 15:17:45 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:20:03 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B1E7@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: TOUR 4 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:20:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Before anyone else says it: Satisfying though it was to beat Catch 22's sorry little arses yesterday, Doughboy's victory apparently means that it is now likely that Catch will not finish in the top 8 of the Tour, and thus wouldn't be able to make the top 8 at Nationals if they are based on the Tour results as everyone seems to expect. I guess before we play Tour 4 everyone should therefore know EXACTLY what is going to be done about them with respect to Nationals so that they can calculate which games are the most important at Tour 4. There have been rumours that Catch will be placed in the lower division at Nationals and play for positions 9 to 16 -> but is that something that we think is sensible or fair given that the blame for Towcester lies somewhere between the BUF for not checking and the rest of us for not running enough events? The Ultim-8 rules do not state explicitly on what basis Nationals should be seeded. Paragraph 1 B states: BUF National Finals In order to calculate which teams qualify for National Finals every result from each of the four tournaments is counted. Teams will not be allowed to discard their worst result. The top 16 teams from the tour ranking list qualify for National Finals. Nationals has two separate divisions of eight teams, plus an extra event for teams that do not qualify. So while it says that the Tour is the basis for picking the teams it does not state that the Tour will be used for seeding it. This wasn't an issue last year because there we no dodgy pitch tournaments and you could discard your worst result anyway - so it gave a good reflection of actual seedings. This year it would be a travesty of common sense for us to continue as we (potentially) are and exclude a team who are undoubtedly the fourth best team in the country. Should we rethink the basis on which seeding is done for Nationals? Should we change the 2 pools of 8 nature of Nationals? Whatever we decide it should be done before Tour 4 so that the teams placed 7->11 know which games they have to win to get into the Top 8 at Nationals. There would be nothing worse that finishing 6th at Tour 4, being placed 8th in the Tour, but then being pushed into the 9->16 bracket for Nationals because Catch have been reseeded just before Nationals - something which could happen to about 3 teams. So Chris, in your capacity as DoC, what's the story? Cheers all you frisbee flingers, PieBoy, DOUGHBOY's largest loaf From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 17:18:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QGHae02428 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:17:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QGHZw02421 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:17:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost ([213.130.129.51]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QGHXY03480 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:17:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from KEVIN (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:28:33 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BFDF92.0609FB80@KEVIN>; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:14:44 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFDF92.0609FB80@KEVIN> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour 4 and Nationals Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:14:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5QGHZw02422 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've got to agree with Roger on this one. We need some decisions made before Tour 4 so that teams like Catch, and equally, Headrush, BAF and Fusion know where they stand, and what they must do to qualify for Nationals. As it stands now, assuming Catch finish somewhere in the top 4 at Tour 4 (btw, nice gag Rog), they will finish the Tour with points in the region of 650 - 690. Let's say they win Tour 4 (we're feeling generous after our Sudden Death victory in the semis), and get 690 points. If Headrush, BAF or Fusion finish 5th, they would end with 695, 691 or 690 points respectively. All fighting for that last top 8 slot (subject to Hammerage, Druids and Red not doing anything stupid). It would be ludicrous to exclude Catch from Nationals, especially when so many of the other teams in the top 8 agreed with Catch's decision to withdraw from tour 2, and were close to doing the same. On the same note, if Catch were to slip in as 8th seeds and initial seedings at Nationals were based purely on tour points, then expect some interesting matches where teams may 'choose' to avoid the pool of death (1 3 6 8 pool). Perhaps it is time to re-examine the way Nationals is run. Dropping down to a top pool of 8 was supposed to cut out the random element of seedings / format so you ended up with a more true (?) champion. OK, so if you're going to win Nationals, it really shouldn't matter where you are seeded, but as shown this weekend, both teams in the final had already been beaten in the pool matches. The German system of the top 7 teams playing each other round-robin requires a three day tournament so is probably not applicable unless we have just top 6. The American double knockout where the losing semi finalists can then lose their top 4 position is extremely harsh. Anyone want to suggest any other systems? How will the 8th / 9th / 10th placed teams feel if the rules are changed at this late stage? And how will people feel if some of the top teams didn't bother entering nationals in sympathy with the excluded Catch 22 and wishing not to be part of the farce? Difficult decisions. Still, that's why we're paid huge salaries :-) Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | And when they turn their arms against us, | The arms that we supplied; | If humanity could speak, well humanity would cry! | You're not doing it my name. |--- | If you have an Orange, One2One or Virgin mobile phone | and never want to pay more than 3.5p per minute, or if | you're with BT and want 33%+ savings on all calls, email | or visit http://www.telco-gc.com/agent.asp?ID=40471872 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 17:41:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QGeNY07840 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:40:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QGeKw07821 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:40:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QGeKR19145 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:40:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-1.sbs.demon.net ([193.195.0.131]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 136bvn-000N90-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:40:19 +0100 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 136bvn-000NpL-00; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:40:19 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:37:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: TOUR 4 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:37:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good point Rog. I too think Nationals format needs thinking about. I have to agree that it would be crazy for Catch to have to enter Nationals as 9th seeds and also to only be able to achieve 9th position. Why does Nationals have to be rigidly split 1-8 & 9-16? I think it is very unfortunate for the teams 9, 10 & 11 to not have a chance of going for a higher position than 9th. Wouldn't it be possible to introduce a 5-12 crossover after the first round. Or rather than a crossover 5-12 play straight knockout and 13-16 just play semis and finals for their positions? I know this won't help Catch's position as much as they'd like as they would still be excluded from the semi-finals, but at least they could secure 5th place rather than 9th. Just a thought. Max Fever -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson [mailto:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 4:20 PM To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Subject: RE: TOUR 4 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 21:41:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QKdNp18602 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:39:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QKdMw18596 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:39:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QKdMY23563 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:39:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-114.anduin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.108.242]) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 136ff5-0004UU-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:39:20 +0100 X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:37:59 -0700 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Chris Hughes Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Chris Hughes To: BRITDISC , "'er2de2'" Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:04:09 +0100 Some how I suspected that this would come up one way or another... OK - and just so that every one knows the background, I am Director of competitions, and as such in that role oversee the Tour, and I also play for Blue Arse Flies, and so I'm going to address this reply on two levels, as a BAF player, and as DoC. So when Tammo asks where was I during all this - I was slap bang in the middle of it, talking to Pete Coy, making sure he knew all of the rules, BAF's options, and DSM's options (including finding a guest within the tour rules and putting them on pitch.) As DoC: As DoC it is my job to oversee the tour and to try and ensure that the tour is part of the premier events in the country (and granted, we're having a bit of a 'mare this year). I also sub scribe to the view of the BUF, that we need to promote the sport and ensure that it is viewed in a good light and as a sport that wants to be taken seriously. Part of that attitude must be that when a tournament schedule is written, it must be adhered to, for any event to be running smoothly the organisation needs to be in place, and then followed. So firstly when the hooter goes for the games to start, the games should start. So why the five minutes grace in the rules, schedules are not always easy to understand, your opponents may be waiting for you two fields away wondering why you aren't turning up to play them. It gives you the chance to check with the TD that you are in the right place. So lets progress along to all the other things that could have happened;- Why did BAF not play 7 v 6! . The second line of the rules says that Ultimate is played 'with two teams of seven players '. So if a team cannot field seven players, they cannot play, nor can they start the game to call time-outs. At this stage spirit gets brought in. As a DSM player pointed out, Spirit is the rule in Ultimate above all else. Exactly, Spirit is all about respect, respect for the sport, respect for the game, respect for the rules, and respect for your fellow players. This also includes respect for the rest of your team-mates who could be bothered to get out of bed on Sunday morning at 8:00am after a nights partying and get to the pitch on time to play the game. (I was the first BAF player at the pitchside on Sunday morning at 8:25, and already three DSM players were there, not overly confident about their ability to get a full team.) So what about playing a team with 6 players due to injury - You make the call. I'm not saying what you have to do, I've provided the rules to allow the teams on the spot to make the decision. Do your opponents merit ! the benef doubt? So why did these rules appear this tour? They didn't. These were brought in last year after a number of incidents, and after a couple of incidents this year I felt it was time to remind people; T1, Saturday morning - Chevron running around trying to get 7 players for a 9am game. T2 Sunday afternoon - Sharks disappear after misreading the schedule leaving Janitors to twiddle their thumbs for 20 minutes. When the Sharks eventually arrived Janitors had sat down to watch their other team, taken their boots off and started to relax. They didn't have to play and claimed the game. Chris Hughes DoC As a BAF player; As a player, both on Druids and on BAF, I have been on every side of this argument. I have called games against opposition teams, and conceded games (at a tournament where if you are not there on time you lose - no point a minute, no five minutes grace) I have been one of the players waiting for the rest of my team to turn up, and losing points. I have been late for my game. Mez tried to make the following point and accepts he did it poorly; At T3 in Edinburgh last year BAF knew as part of the top 8 teams if nothing else all we had to do was win out first game on Sunday to stay top eight. We were playing SOUP. At 9:00am BAF had 3 players to SOUP's 14 or 15. We conceded 9 points before we had enough people to call time outs and get ready. We played, we lost. We learnt out lesson - BAF have not been late for our games since. I object in principle to the 6 v 7 scenario, since all that does is allow a team to drag out a game by playing zone, etc, slowing down the turnaround, until the rest of the team turns up (If they are six due to injury, and no-one else is turning up they I have a decision to make). On Sunday morning DSM had no good reason for missing players, other than people could not be bothered to make sure they got there on time to play. DSM players admitted to me that they would have done the same if the situation had been reversed, and I would expect nothing less. Some DSM players spent the rest of Sunday complaining to anyone who would listen about our attitude. It was noticeable that these were the players that were late. The DSM players that I talked to before and after the game were not only apologetic that they didn't play us properly, but also felt we made a reasonable call. There was nothing spiteful in the decisions made. The game was then played in good spirit, and neither team descended in to pathetic calls. The final result was 15 - 10, with BAF having started 5 points up at the first pull. Both teams would like to have seen the game played properly, and hopefully we will at T4, where at least one team will feel vindicated. Chris Hughes BAF 18 ---------- From: er2de2[SMTP:tammo@freeuk.com] Sent: 25 June 2000 23:29 To: BRITDISC Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation <> Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points off DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... Questions: Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is a rule required? Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of 12, given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a six-day tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can see the it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton is a two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player for what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call the ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' health: Does this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And what happens if a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit their remaining games? Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late starts of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable here, after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if they had to play 6 vs. 7. MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to play an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the game to find out? Comments welcome. Tammo Playing for Chevron Action Flash Speaking for myself P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 22:24:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QLNNq24684 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QLNHw24638 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QLNHY26789 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 136gLa-000GUh-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4pLz0QAhz6V5EwxH@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:20:01 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation References: <001601bfdf65$99d901d0$be17010a@w046901.uk.zurich.com> In-Reply-To: <001601bfdf65$99d901d0$be17010a@w046901.uk.zurich.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Mon, 26 Jun 2000, James Hewitson ; Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation >I seem to remember (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that this exact >situation was specifically mentioned in the Tournament Rules that were >distributed at the Captains meeting on Saturday morning (sorry but I don't >have the precise wording to hand). OK, Balti got it right, last-but-one point under "Tournament Organisation" on the green sheet: " If a team is late for their game; 1. Please ensure that they are not still playing their previous game (and try to find out if they are waiting at another pitch - you may be wrong); 2. Teams get five minutes grace; 3. Accumulate points at the end of each minute. (Note: you need not play a game in which the opposition cannot field a team of seven legitimate players, and a team cannot call a time out unless they have seven players with which to start the game) " My apologies to Chris/Marv for suggesting that this should be mentioned in the tournament literature - it was, it just looks like most of us didn't read the info that we were given... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 22:24:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QLNJk24658 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QLNHw24640 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QLNHR09415 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 136gLa-000GUg-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:23:16 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:11:00 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Technical Question References: <20000625184856.83579.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000625184856.83579.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sun, 25 Jun 2000, by Antony Marsh ; Subject: Technical Question >Why do ultimate discs fly straight, They do? :) > whereas "overstable" golf discs fade >away to the left (for a right-handed backhand) ? and "understable" golf discs fade right, and "stable" golf discs... fly straight! >Can someone help? New Scientist, several years back, had an article. I'm fairly sure that there are others. I'd suggest that you start at http://www.ultilinks.com/ for links to your answers. Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jun 26 22:40:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5QLeHm27408 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:40:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5QLeFw27402 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:40:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from webshield2.nai.com (webshield2.nai.com [161.69.3.73]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5QLeEY28405 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:40:14 +0100 (BST) Received: FROM ca-ex-bridge1.nai.com BY webshield2.nai.com ; Mon Jun 26 14:43:24 2000 -0700 Received: by na-ex-bridge1.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:42:33 -0700 Message-ID: <150C5D516A43D211A5EF00A0C99D758F03CF30C1@ca-exchange3.nai.com> From: "Oakley, Caedman" To: "'Chris Hughes '" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk '" Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:37:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To chip in... Points being forfeited is far and away a better way of ensuring that people get to play than the normal course of events in the US. If you go to Sectionals (kind of like the tour - sort of...) then as a coed team, you must be prepared to field a full 7, split the way that the offence decides (i.e. 4 men 3 women or 4 women 3 men). If you fail to do so, then YOU FORFEIT THE GAME. No "Can we borrow a woman" no "go on please play 4 men 3 women" - That's it - you lose. I have been on the receiving end of the "lose a point per minute" thing and I have been on a team that could have taken advantage of it. It's far better to lose points than the game outright. Cads Learning Curve - The Bay Area's premier Development Team. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 11:01:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5R9TtE29140 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:29:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5R9Tme29065 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:29:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from fmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (fmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.184]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5R8bSg24355 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:37:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.92.193.23] (helo=mail11.svr.pol.co.uk) by fmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 136j00-0000aH-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:13:08 +0100 Received: from modem-91.neodymium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.219] helo=dgcltd) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 136iqo-0005I5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:03:39 +0100 Message-ID: <003401bfdfcb$3c06d8a0$db31883e@dgcltd> From: "_" To: "BritDisc" References: Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:03:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc/Chris/Wayne etc etc Can I just put the record straight that has been brought up twice already today. As being in the car travelling down to Swindon for Tour 1 we knew that we would be on time to play our first match and in the end had 9 players ready to play, Just because other idiots in our team didn't have confidence in us being there is in no way our fault :-) (Kenny being our appointed organiser was in the car also which gave us an added perspective on numbers) Can I point out that its also further to travel from Manchester to Swindon than London to Southampton!!!!!! It does seem too have brought up the issue now though, of clarifying rules for this unfortunate but not uncommon situation, and whilst we are at it can we also have a decision on length of games with regards to time, points, caps etc etc As co-ed/ tour events / nationals all seem to be in the hands of the organisers !!! What I would like to see is a standardising of the rules in general for all BUF "important" tournaments. And before people come up with the numbers of pitches/time constraints argument can I point out that we don't need to have all games to 21 19 or seventeen as was shown at world clubs last year 15 was deemed to be a reasonable points score!!! What's it going to be next time???? and does anyone know yet what this years worlds event will be???? Personally I would like to play to 21 in finals 19/17 in semis and 15 in earlier rounds as then it gives teams time to come from behind (which we are so good at doing) apart from this weekend. And finally thanks again to Skunks for putting on the best organised tournament in the Ultimate calendar with reasonable priced food, beer, prizes, nice pitches etc Little gripe turn the temperature of the showers up next year and hide the Bins after dark especially from I******S :-):-) Si.b Chevy Speaking as usual for himself as the rest of the team will tell you !!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hughes To: Sent: 27 June 2000 05:37 Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > From: Chris Hughes > To: BRITDISC , "'er2de2'" > Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:04:09 +0100 > > Some how I suspected that this would come up one way or another... > OK - and just so that every one knows the background, I am Director of > competitions, and as such in that role oversee the Tour, and I also play > for Blue Arse Flies, and so I'm going to address this reply on two levels, > as a BAF player, and as DoC. So when Tammo asks where was I during all this > - I was slap bang in the middle of it, talking to Pete Coy, making sure he > knew all of the rules, BAF's options, and DSM's options (including finding > a guest within the tour rules and putting them on pitch.) > > As DoC: > As DoC it is my job to oversee the tour and to try and ensure that the tour > is part of the premier events in the country (and granted, we're having a > bit of a 'mare this year). I also sub scribe to the view of the BUF, that > we need to promote the sport and ensure that it is viewed in a good light > and as a sport that wants to be taken seriously. Part of that attitude must > be that when a tournament schedule is written, it must be adhered to, for > any event to be running smoothly the organisation needs to be in place, and > then followed. So firstly when the hooter goes for the games to start, the > games should start. So why the five minutes grace in the rules, schedules > are not always easy to understand, your opponents may be waiting for you > two fields away wondering why you aren't turning up to play them. It gives > you the chance to check with the TD that you are in the right place. So > lets progress along to all the other things that could have happened;- Why > did BAF not play 7 v 6! > . The second line of the rules says that Ultimate is played 'with two teams > of seven players '. So if a team cannot field seven players, they cannot > play, nor can they start the game to call time-outs. At this stage spirit > gets brought in. As a DSM player pointed out, Spirit is the rule in > Ultimate above all else. Exactly, Spirit is all about respect, respect for > the sport, respect for the game, respect for the rules, and respect for > your fellow players. This also includes respect for the rest of your > team-mates who could be bothered to get out of bed on Sunday morning at > 8:00am after a nights partying and get to the pitch on time to play the > game. (I was the first BAF player at the pitchside on Sunday morning at > 8:25, and already three DSM players were there, not overly confident about > their ability to get a full team.) So what about playing a team with 6 > players due to injury - You make the call. I'm not saying what you have to > do, I've provided the rules to allow the teams on the spot to make the > decision. Do your opponents merit ! > the benef > doubt? > So why did these rules appear this tour? They didn't. These were brought in > last year after a number of incidents, and after a couple of incidents this > year I felt it was time to remind people; T1, Saturday morning - Chevron > running around trying to get 7 players for a 9am game. T2 Sunday afternoon > - Sharks disappear after misreading the schedule leaving Janitors to > twiddle their thumbs for 20 minutes. When the Sharks eventually arrived > Janitors had sat down to watch their other team, taken their boots off and > started to relax. They didn't have to play and claimed the game. > > Chris Hughes > DoC > > > As a BAF player; > As a player, both on Druids and on BAF, I have been on every side of this > argument. I have called games against opposition teams, and conceded games > (at a tournament where if you are not there on time you lose - no point a > minute, no five minutes grace) I have been one of the players waiting for > the rest of my team to turn up, and losing points. I have been late for my > game. Mez tried to make the following point and accepts he did it poorly; > At T3 in Edinburgh last year BAF knew as part of the top 8 teams if nothing > else all we had to do was win out first game on Sunday to stay top eight. > We were playing SOUP. At 9:00am BAF had 3 players to SOUP's 14 or 15. We > conceded 9 points before we had enough people to call time outs and get > ready. We played, we lost. We learnt out lesson - BAF have not been late > for our games since. > I object in principle to the 6 v 7 scenario, since all that does is allow a > team to drag out a game by playing zone, etc, slowing down the turnaround, > until the rest of the team turns up (If they are six due to injury, and > no-one else is turning up they I have a decision to make). > On Sunday morning DSM had no good reason for missing players, other than > people could not be bothered to make sure they got there on time to play. > DSM players admitted to me that they would have done the same if the > situation had been reversed, and I would expect nothing less. Some DSM > players spent the rest of Sunday complaining to anyone who would listen > about our attitude. It was noticeable that these were the players that were > late. The DSM players that I talked to before and after the game were not > only apologetic that they didn't play us properly, but also felt we made a > reasonable call. There was nothing spiteful in the decisions made. The game > was then played in good spirit, and neither team descended in to pathetic > calls. The final result was 15 - 10, with BAF having started 5 points up at > the first pull. Both teams would like to have seen the game played > properly, and hopefully we will at T4, where at least one team will feel > vindicated. > > Chris Hughes > BAF 18 > > > ---------- > From: er2de2[SMTP:tammo@freeuk.com] > Sent: 25 June 2000 23:29 > To: BRITDISC > Subject: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation > > <> > Because some Deep South Mentality players were late for their Sunday > morning game, DSM could at first field only six players. Their opponents > Blue Arse Flies refused to start the game, citing some obscure rule that > allegedly applied to this tournament. This allowed BAF to take five points > off DSM before play eventually started, DSM finally having a seventh > player. Oh yes, BAF did proceed to win the game... > > Questions: > > Where is it written that thou shalt have your full contingent of seven > players on the line at the start of a game? And more importantly, WHY is a > rule required? > > Is it health reasons? For World Clubs there is a minimum squad size of 12, > given the exceptional physical demands on the players during a six-day > tournament. Over-regulation, if you ask me, but at least you can see the > it's-for-your-own-good nanny state reason behind it. Southampton is a > two-day tournament, however. DSM were going to be short of a player for > what, 10 minutes? Half an hour? Even a full game? Shock, horror, call the > ambulance! Also, following the logic of protecting players' health: Does > this mean Iron Man tournaments are henceforth outlawed? And what happens if > a squad of eight loses two players due to injury? Do they have to forfeit > their remaining games? > > Is this rule required to run the tournament smoothly, to prevent late > starts of games, penalise teams not showing up, etc. ? Not applicable here, > after all DSM were ready to play, on time. It's their problem if they had > to play 6 vs. 7. > > MOST IMPORTANTLY: What kind of mindset makes Blue Arse Flies refuse to play > an opponent, knowing that this way they can get points for free? BAF > players, I hope you'll be thinking about your decision, and I hope you'll > feel sorry. This was lame and un-spirited, Chris Hughes, where were you in > all this? Yes, maybe you would have won anyway- why didn't you >play< the > game to find out? > > > Comments welcome. > > Tammo > Playing for Chevron Action Flash > Speaking for myself > > > P.S. Yes, I know the world doesn't end because of this episode. > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 11:01:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5R9UlE29644 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:30:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5R9UPe29376 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:30:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5R9Tlg00344 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:30:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-1.sbs.demon.net ([193.195.0.131]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 136rgN-000G8o-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:29:27 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 136rgM-000Pv1-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:29:27 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:06:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With all these rants going on I think we've forgotten to congratulate the organisers for a fantastic event. Great pitches, hot showers, bar, entertainment!, on-site camping plus with a split site venue the schedule worked perfectly. Well done. Thanks and see you next year. Max Fever From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 11:08:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RA3Rj12411 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:03:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RA3Oe12385 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:03:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RA3JY07549 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:03:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.126.155.197] (helo=default) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 136klz-0002fd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:06:47 +0100 Message-ID: <008101bfdfdc$5ba1e900$c59b7ed4@default> From: "er2de2" To: References: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B568@GB-CHW-MAIL2> Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:05:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk May I respond to some of your postings: Football analogies have been used to explain why DSM needed to be penalised. To that my reply is: Ultimate isn't football. Football isn't Ultimate. In football the team captains cannot agree to play with a non-endorsed ball; in football the time limit and point target can't be modified by the team captains and/or the tournament director; in football you cannot be sure that the guy charging in from your blind side will make every effort to avoid a collision. Need I go on? Here's my view: Ultimate rules were designed to leave responsibility in the hands of the players; rules have been worded to merely provide a protocol to keep the game flowing, to resolve controversy and to take away any advantage gained by an infraction. Penalties have not been considered, as they are deemed unnecessary in a game ruled by integrity and honesty. Having no penalties is a key element of the 'spirit of the game' - lose this concept, and you are indeed one step closer to football. There is no advantage in being outnumbered on the pitch, hence no rule is required to rectify the situation. Without such a rule, BAF couldn't have gained an advantage by refusing to play DSM. You are right, Nolan. Some rules are required. We wouldn't want anarchy, would we? Among other things, rules are required to resolve those issues that the teams cannot resolve themselves. A team not showing up at all - now here's a scenario that needs to be covered, for the sake of sticking to the tournament schedule. As an 'incentive' to make teams more disciplined these point penalties make sense indeed, at least until the moment the latecomers can field a team (not necessarily seven players). Then you can start >playing<. Ultimate >is< about playing the game, isn't it, Nolan? Is it disrespectful of a team to field only six players, or five, or four? If it is intentional and meant to humiliate a much weaker opponent - yes, that's disrespectful and unspirited. However, if it is because the team doesn't have enough players available, for whatever reason - then IMHO the answer is no; they may be disorganised, foolish, depleted, or unlucky, but unspirited? Hardly. But hey, that's just >my< opinion. Some of you want to 'get real', 'get serious', make Ultimate a 'real sport' - if you think you need to compromise a basic concept of the game to get there, then please consider your position. More rules don't necessarily make the game better. Over and out. Tammo P.S. It's reassuring that so many people on Britdisc take an interest in the game beyond reading tournament reports; this list is so much more active than its German equivalent. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 11:51:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RAnW320958 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:49:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RAnUe20944 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:49:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from sphmgaaf.compuserve.com (hs-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.177.155]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RAfvY13695 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:42:01 +0100 (BST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by sphmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id GAA10910 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:40:04 -0400 From: Stuart Clark Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation To: Britdisc Message-ID: <200006270640_MC2-AA41-5952@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5RAnUe20949 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Again, as somebody who has experienced this from both sides, here's my two-penneth, I. for many years, was captain of the aforementioned Village People (thankyou Paul Meaney!) and I was proud of that team, not because we did anything fantastic or ever threatened to make a semi-final, but because I believe we had a good reputation as being a good spirited team. Quite a few years ago, around the transitional period between "monster" nationals of 36 teams and the introduction of the tour we had an interesting run-in with the Playthings at a nationals at Oxford. We were on, first game of the Sunday morning, in an important play-off for a top 12 spot. We used to meet Playthings all the time and had many a good scrap against them, if they were on form we knew we had a hard fight on our hands. We were all there at 8.30am, warming up and throwing around (which for us was unheard of) and the Playthings were nowhere to be seen. At 9am, the hooter sounded - the Playthings had, I seem to remember, 3 or 4 people. We could have played the game 3 on 3 or 4 on 4, but that seemed pretty pointless, or we could have played 7 on 3/4, but it would have been a pasting and no fun for anyone. OR, we could have started taking points off them for every minute they weren't ready (yes, the rule was in force at that tournament - what 5(?) years ago). However, we chose none of those options and waited for the Playthings to arrive. It was about 9.25 before the Playthings were ready to start. At the end of game hooter we were level. There was no two point cap. The game went into sudden death "overtime" and we lost. Personally I thought that was a spirited decision by us, others may think it was stupid. Yes, we were beaten fair and square in a "proper" game but we did feel somewhat robbed of a top 12 position, not because of anything the Playthings had done, but because on a field not-too-distant from us, another team had won a game by enforcing the point-a-minute rule. And here's the crux of the issue - it's not about cries of "Spirit!" - it's about enforcement of the rules. A case in point which many of us probably remember is Catch 22 copping a lot of crap on Britidisc about spirit for taking a dropped pull and scoring off it. Si Hill promptly and correctly pointed out that those were the rules of the game and the rules that Catch played by. It had nothing to do with Spirit. Rarely now do you see teams letting other teams off for dropped pulls. The same applies for this seven on the line/point docking rule. It's in the tour rules and it has been for a while (at least last season as well as many teams found to their cost). It needs to be there so that we have standardisation across the board when this situation arises - so that a team that shows more "spirit" doesn't lose out in a situation where another (argueably no less spirited team) enforces the rules and progresses onward through the tournament. We should all acknowledge that the rule exists, we should all have no qualms about enforcing it on our opposition and we should all accept that our opposition will enforce it on us if we don't have seven on the line at the hooter - without raising questions about spirit afterwards. Spirit should be about how you as an individual and/or a team handle yourselves on the field once the game is in play, not about judgement calls about how and when to begin a game if a team isn't ready - the tour rules now take that out of our hands. I appreciate Aram's comments but the rules can't allow for any individuals circumstances regardless of how unfortunate or unforseen they are. Your opposition aren't to know why you aren't there - they just know you aren't. I would bore you with the Village People/French Connection story since it's quite amusing but I think I've rambled enough and hopefully made my point. Stu Ex Village People now.....wait for it......BAF (Co-ed!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 12:31:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RBUs403584 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:30:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RBUqe03565 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from skaro.cheapnet.co.uk (skaro.cheapnet.co.uk [194.164.6.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RBUqR25413 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from server.PROTOCOL (protocolit.co.uk [194.164.92.66]) by skaro.cheapnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22847 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:27:41 +0100 Received: by SERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:59:05 +0100 Message-ID: From: Low To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 3 - Bosch! Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:59:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk That was my first comp in quite a while and I've got to agree with Max It was really well sorted out, I think that a lot of people are missing the point aside from a couple of niggles which were nowt to do with the organisers, it all went off sans hitch Cheers Skunks siya next year thanks for a blinder Low Albatross From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 14:16:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RDFBS04810 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:15:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RDFAe04798 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:15:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f165.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.165]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5RDF9Y18379 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:15:09 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21416 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jun 2000 13:15:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20000627131503.21415.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.128.102.3 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:15:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.128.102.3] From: "David Eastman" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:15:02 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Stu, I think I can now remember this incident; we started with our four as soon as the rest of the team was in view (?). Sadly Playthings did not have a great record for time keeping. Yet I would guess Glyn would have forced the points rule if the same situation was reversed because we certainly were not overly generous. Enough nostalgia :-) Today is different; the top 8 surely know that we have a responsibility to represent the game at the top level. This (surely) means turning up on time with a full team, or accepting the consequences. The details are up to the captains; but fixed guidelines would be a comfort. David Eastman (Then Playthings, now Hammerage) >From: Stuart Clark >To: Britdisc <> >Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:40:04 -0400 > >Again, as somebody who has experienced this from both sides, here's my >two-penneth, > >I. for many years, was captain of the aforementioned Village People >(thankyou Paul Meaney!) and I was proud of that team, not because we did >anything fantastic or ever threatened to make a semi-final, but because I >believe we had a good reputation as being a good spirited team. > >Quite a few years ago, around the transitional period between "monster" >nationals of 36 teams and the introduction of the tour we had an >interesting run-in with the Playthings at a nationals at Oxford. We were >on, first game of the Sunday morning, in an important play-off for a top 12 >spot. We used to meet Playthings all the time and had many a good scrap >against them, if they were on form we knew we had a hard fight on our >hands. >We were all there at 8.30am, warming up and throwing around (which for us >was unheard of) and the Playthings were nowhere to be seen. At 9am, the >hooter sounded - the Playthings had, I seem to remember, 3 or 4 people. > >We could have played the game 3 on 3 or 4 on 4, but that seemed pretty >pointless, or we could have played 7 on 3/4, but it would have been a >pasting and no fun for anyone. OR, we could have started taking points off >them for every minute they weren't ready (yes, the rule was in force at >that tournament - what 5(?) years ago). However, we chose none of those >options and waited for the Playthings to arrive. It was about 9.25 before >the Playthings were ready to start. >At the end of game hooter we were level. There was no two point cap. The >game went into sudden death "overtime" and we lost. >Personally I thought that was a spirited decision by us, others may think >it was stupid. Yes, we were beaten fair and square in a "proper" game but >we did feel somewhat robbed of a top 12 position, not because of anything >the Playthings had done, but because on a field not-too-distant from us, >another team had won a game by enforcing the point-a-minute rule. > >And here's the crux of the issue - it's not about cries of "Spirit!" - it's >about enforcement of the rules. A case in point which many of us probably >remember is Catch 22 copping a lot of crap on Britidisc about spirit for >taking a dropped pull and scoring off it. Si Hill promptly and correctly >pointed out that those were the rules of the game and the rules that Catch >played by. It had nothing to do with Spirit. Rarely now do you see teams >letting other teams off for dropped pulls. > >The same applies for this seven on the line/point docking rule. It's in >the tour rules and it has been for a while (at least last season as well as >many teams found to their cost). It needs to be there so that we have >standardisation across the board when this situation arises - so that a >team that shows more "spirit" doesn't lose out in a situation where another >(argueably no less spirited team) enforces the rules and progresses onward >through the tournament. We should all acknowledge that the rule exists, we >should all have no qualms about enforcing it on our opposition and we >should all accept that our opposition will enforce it on us if we don't >have seven on the line at the hooter - without raising questions about >spirit afterwards. Spirit should be about how you as an individual and/or >a team handle yourselves on the field once the game is in play, not about >judgement calls about how and when to begin a game if a team isn't ready - >the tour rules now take that out of our hands. > >I appreciate Aram's comments but the rules can't allow for any individuals >circumstances regardless of how unfortunate or unforseen they are. Your >opposition aren't to know why you aren't there - they just know you aren't. > >I would bore you with the Village People/French Connection story since it's >quite amusing but I think I've rambled enough and hopefully made my point. > >Stu >Ex Village People now.....wait for it......BAF (Co-ed!) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 14:56:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RDteQ14221 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:55:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RDtce14213 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:55:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RDtcR14787 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:55:38 +0100 (BST) Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:54:58 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'oxfordultimate@hotmail.com'" Subject: Rumour Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:54:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5RDtde14214 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A whisper in your ear If you want to come and play, do the following things: email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com send money to the following address: 4 Lyneham Close Witney OX8 5BS £75 paid to Oxford Ultimate. Love Your Tequila The Milk Man Oxford Ultimate - SHARKS From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 15:26:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5REPXu21210 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:25:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5REPVe21194 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:25:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk (mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5REPUR19209 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:25:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 136wMB-0002hX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:28:55 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:30:57 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAD95@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: TOUR 4 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:26:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5REPVe21198 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Time (3 days) and spaces (about 7) running out for Tour 4. As usual there are some significant absentees from the list of those already entered. So get on with it! If you want to contact Arun and make your excuses - phone him at work on 0113 225 5346 or at home on 0113 274 9097 Thankyou Ben Mitchell on the behalf of MMJ > -----Original Message----- > From: Arun Sharma [SMTP:Arun.Sharma@chorleys.co.uk] > Sent: 14 June 2000 11:00 > To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: TOUR 4 > > Tour 4 - 15th/16 July > Venue - Leeds Grammar School > Cost - > £90 > Spaces for up to 32 teams > Cheques Payable to - Mild Mannered Janitors > Closing date for entries - 02/07/2000 > Send Cheques to: MMJ > 42 Richmond Mount > Headingley > Leeds > LS6 1DF > > Entries will not be accepted without receipt of payment in full. After > 30/06/00 contact e-mail for MMJ/Tour 4 will change to asharma43@hotmail.com > > Thanks > > Arun > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 15:44:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5REhBN25602 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:43:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5REh9e25592 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:43:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk (mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5REh8R22174 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:43:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 136wdE-0002v6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:46:32 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:48:35 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAD97@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: RE: TOUR 4 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:44:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, wrong phone number Arun at work - 0113 225 5954 - and only until Friday when he changes jobs! Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 17:31:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RGUEk23316 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:30:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RGUCe23306 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:30:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (web115.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5RGUBR06929 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:30:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 19642 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2000 16:30:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000627163006.19641.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.1.144.39] by web115.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:30:05 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: 1-8 or 1-16?? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc, I couldn't keep my mouth shut on this... >>>>The American double knockout where the losing semi finalists can then lose their top 4 position is extremely harsh.>>>>>>>> As a member of many bottom 8 teams, I always wondered why we never got to challenge up the ladder. Ok, so the 'mighty' top 4 teams don't want to waste their time, that's fine and I don't really want to get beaten 15-0. BUT, where does it say that once you are top 4 , one of the 'mighty', you can stay there? The benefit of this American system, is that if you lose, you drop place, and rightly so I think. In what other sport does losing keep you in the top? England lost at Euro, so they're out...no matter what their previous performances or standings, or decisions to not play, or not show up, etc. etc. etc. Spirit is really good, and makes the sport, but at the end of the day, to be a champion, you should still have to show up, play the tournaments, and win the games. just my humble opinion... Sarah f6uk (if we still exist?) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 17:53:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RGqMe28236 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:52:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RGqJe28224 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:52:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from dove2.cf.ac.uk (dove2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.1.170]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RGqJY22771 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:52:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from parkcf4s.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.94]) by dove2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 136yap-00062X-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:52:11 +0100 Received: from PARKCF4S/SpoolDir by PARKCF4S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.48); 27 Jun 00 17:52:11 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by PARKCF4S (Mercury 1.48); 27 Jun 00 17:51:48 GMT0BST From: "No Frills" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:51:39 GMT0BST Subject: South West Regionals. Reply-to: Nofrillss@Cardiff.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've just noticed that Skunks would like to host the 2000/2001 SW Student Indoors. As it seems that no decision, or even discussion, of this proposal has yet happened, we, Cardiff No Frills would also like to make a bid for the venue. We held it last year and would be more than happy to hold it again. We have the choice of two larger pitches (that we used for last year's nationals) or we can split the new hall into two for the first day and make it into a large pitch for Sunday's play off's (as last year). I am sure that all those who came to last year's tournament would agree that it ran pretty smoothly. Looking forward to hearing from you, Si. simple No Frills. No Frills - No Spills - No Drills and so No Skills. "That was a S*%t throw - phew, that was a Quick Save!!" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 18:14:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RHDop03002 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:13:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RHDne02995 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:13:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from scooby.lineone.net (doggy.lineone.net [194.75.152.224]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RHDmR11417 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:13:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from lineone.net (scooby-s1 [194.75.152.224]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11801 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:13:27 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:13:27 +0100 (BST) From: hsp298@lineone.net Message-Id: <200006271713.SAA11801@scooby.lineone.net> TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk SUBJECT: Tour III Results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As requested the results for Tour 3 are as follows: 1.UTI 2.Chevron 3.Dough Boys 4.Catch 22 5.Fusion 6.Hammerage 7.Druids 8.BAF 9.Red 10.Headrush 11.DSM 12.Ro-sham-bo 13.Skunks 14.Strange Blue 15.Super Fly 16.Point Blank 17.Fever 18.Angels 19.GB Juniors 20.MMJ 21.Sharks 22.Mud Culture 23.More MMJ 24.Slip Disc 25.Jedi 26.BAF Co-ed 27.GBW 28.Albatross 29.Skunks 2 30.Yorkie Bar Kids 31.Mohawks 32.Swamp Donkeys Spirit of the Game - Super Fly MVP - Casey (UTI) Thanks to all those who played and helped out From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 18:54:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RHrPL10902 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:53:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RHrNe10897 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:53:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RHrNY29663 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:53:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 136zY2-000FCK-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:53:23 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:51:59 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: TOUR 4 References: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAD95@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EAD95@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Time (3 days) and spaces (about 7) running out for Tour 4. As usual there are >some significant absentees from the list of those already entered. So get on >with it! Remember, penalties for late payment of Deposits and Entries are being applied... Wayne on behalf of u8c ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 19:00:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RI0KP12158 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:00:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RI0Ie12151 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:00:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RI0IY00455 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:00:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-138.potassium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.18.138]) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 136zcO-0001i6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:57:52 +0100 X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:57:49 -0700 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Subject: Daily Digest Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Organization: Manchester Metropolitan University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:01:57 GMT Subject: Daily Digest Reminder Hi All, As another contentious thread rumbles on, I thought I'd take the opportunity to remind you that you can now avoid getting your inbox clogged up by having Britdisc delivered in one easy-to-swallow Daily Digest. To s ubscribe send an email to: britdisc-daily-s ubscribe@egroups.com (NB you must remove the space between the 's' and the 'ubscribe') You'll receive a confirmation email, and then (once confirmed) an introductory mail with more details, followed by the new digest once a day. I would appreciate it if team captains / chairpeople could pass this message onto the various team email lists that abound, as I think this service may appeal to some people who currently are not s ubscribed to Britdisc. Please note this service does not replace Britdisc, and people cannot post directly to the daily version (all postings still have to go through Britdisc itself). Any queries, feel free to drop me a line, Love & Luck, Lozza (Night) Fever Ultimate Britdisc-Daily's Mr Moderate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 22:19:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RLIOs16897 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:18:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RLINe16891 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:18:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RLINY14029 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:18:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.20.73] (helo=default) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 1372kM-0003Oa-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:18:18 +0100 Message-ID: <009401bfe07b$b0e72200$c5498cd4@default> From: "Delbert" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Catch at Nationals Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:06:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, A simple solution to the C22 situ.... Drop the worst Tour result from the seeding for the nationals. This allows the Tour to maintain the structure as it was understood and provides C22 a back door (if they want/need it). C22 did us all a favour by dropping out of Towcester by highlighting the pitch quality issue. I don't think they should be punished for it. They took an admirable stance and ruined any chance (however slim) they had at winning the Tour. To follow the path laid down and punish the 4th best team in the country with bad seeding at Nationals would be bereft of any benefit and I'm sure you'll all agree goes against the ethos of our sport. Del UTI From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 22:25:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RLP5x18040 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:25:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RLP3e18035 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:25:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from chalfont.mail.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RLP3R29472 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:25:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from charlesm (charles.mead.easynet.co.uk [195.40.244.78]) by chalfont.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 725A6F8251 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:24:56 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Charlie Mead" From: "Charlie Mead" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fw: Wall City Spam Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:08:25 +0100 Message-ID: <01bfe07b$d5460bc0$4ef428c3@charlesm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: sprocket/chris strehlau Date: 24 June 2000 23:47 Subject: Wall City Spam >(sorry if you're getting this multiple times or have no freakin' idea who >the hell I am, which means that you're probably a friend of a friend of >mine) > >---------------------------------------------- > >Oops - Wall City is growing too big for one guy (me)... > >...which is why I'm looking for a good person to manage my small, >successful pack business with me. > >Wall City is well established as a manufacturer of travel packs and is >the leading maker of Disc Golf bags. The biz is quite profitable and has >a lot of potential for growth which is something i don't want to tackle >by myself. > >The work is diverse and rewarding. It's a hands-on job that requires >talents and good common sense. My friends know that I work hard and play >hard. That's the kind of person I'm looking for. Someone with good energy >and a passion for making and marketing quality outdoor gear. I am >traveling more these days and want to find a way to keep the business >going and growing. I have great projects on the burner and hope to find >someone who is ready for this opportunity. > >I can't offer dot-com pay and benefits, but the chance to run a great >business with many perks. > >You get the idea. > >Please forward this to anyone you may find of serious interest. I'd love >to talk to them. I promise a cool pack as a referral bonus. > >Thanx, >Sprocket/Chris Strehlau > > >*********************** > Wall City/Jungle Bag >http://www.wallcity.com > 3401 merrie lynn >austin, tx, 78722 u.s.a. > phone 512.478.5066 >*********************** > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 23:34:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RMXkh28101 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:33:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RMXhe28094 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:33:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from viper.usafa.af.mil (viper.usafa.af.mil [204.34.211.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RMXgR03547 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:33:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from viper.usafa.af.mil (root@localhost) by viper.usafa.af.mil with ESMTP id QAA19228 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hermes.usafa.af.mil (hermes.usafa.af.mil [128.236.5.5]) by viper.usafa.af.mil with ESMTP id QAA19222 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:32:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fsxqpz01.usafa.af.mil (exchange.usafa.af.mil [128.236.5.60]) by hermes.usafa.af.mil (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/fast-hermes) with ESMTP id QAA27879; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:34:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by exchange.usafa.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:33:21 -0600 Message-ID: <15A5B6227F19D311856E0090274645350158031E@fsxqpz05.usafa.af.mil> From: "Schuricht, Paul, Dr, DFAN" To: Antony Marsh , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Technical Question Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:33:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Short answer - It has a lot to do with the shape of the rim of the disc, Centre of Pressure location, the fact the disc is spinning (so it acts like a gyroscope and also has asymmetric lift), how worn the disc is, how many trees you've hit and probably some other things. Try some disc golf web pages, or try asking on rec.sport.disc, I know the r.s.d FAQ had a section on dics aerodynamics, and I'm sure that there will be people there with far to much spare time on their hands who will be able to give you a more comprehensive answer. Sonic > -----Original Message----- > From: Antony Marsh [mailto:antony_marsh@hotmail.com] > Subject: Technical Question > > Despite being an engineering student, I'm a little puzzled: > > Why do ultimate discs fly straight, whereas "overstable" golf > discs fade > away to the left (for a right-handed backhand) ? > > Can someone help? > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 23:47:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RMkHF00198 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RMkFe00192 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from hose.pipex.net (hose.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.58]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RMkAY19569 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (userap91.uk.uudial.com [62.188.136.52]) by hose.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EB15E46B1 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:05 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003c01bfe08a$3b96a3e0$3488bc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: References: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B568@GB-CHW-MAIL2> <008101bfdfdc$5ba1e900$c59b7ed4@default> Subject: Re: Tour III - nanny state rule and its exploitation Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:36:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think its great that BD has come back to live in recent weeks. Here are some other comments (nothing very controversial!). 1. When I first saw what was going on between DSM and BAF I was quite outspoken with BAF about what I thought (not entirely unusual for me). Some time later I learnt that it was all written down in the rules for the tourney: a) Tour events are not supposed to have rules of their own - one of the reasons for having the tour is to standardise across main events - can't work out how this situation came to happen. That said - if its written down - we can hardly complain. b) I disagree with it (see below) - but if its in the rules - then hey! - thanks to anybody for taking the trouble to run a tournament, write things down and generally try to move things in the direction they believe to be correct. c) I am extremely embarrased and would like to apologise to BAF for my rudeness - (I already mentioned this to Chris who received the main brunt of my displeasure on Sunday morning!) 2. Please don't compare ultimate with Euro 2000: a) its nonsense b) it makes me nervous about our game against Denmark to reach the quarter-finals/top-8 on Monday 7th August. 3. Here's my story - (Stu did this, so I can too) - hope you can see the point! At Ross several years ago a new team of crap players called Catch 22 had to play the mighty Shotgun - who turned up with 4 (or maybe 5) players - I think the others were busy sitting down. Excited at the prospect we immediately realised that we should play 7 against 4 - hey! that would teach them. I spoke with some American-sounding bloke about this. Not wanting to betray my true colours I suggested that maybe "we'd give them a better game than if we played 4 against 4". He tried to hide his amusement and said that would be fine. About 15 minutes later I could see why he had been laughing - although I think we did score one or two points. My feeling (and I think this went for much of the team) was that if we couldn't even beat them 7 against 4 then it was our privelige to get the chance to play them at all. Our response to this (and other similar drubbings) was to go away and practice. Eventually, (quite a few years later) we beat them - just! Thanks to Skunks for a brilliant tourney. Si (Catch 22) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 23:47:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5RMkCX00179 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RMk9e00157 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from hose.pipex.net (hose.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.58]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5RMk8R04276 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (userap91.uk.uudial.com [62.188.136.52]) by hose.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F060469D for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:46:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <003d01bfe08a$3c4f4580$3488bc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: Subject: Tour 4 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:50:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BFE092.74239800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BFE092.74239800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't done any calculations on how likely it is that we (Catch 22) = will get enough points to finish in the top 8 - can't do much about it = now. If it is (as it sounds from Kev Lowe) unlikely that we can make the top = 8 then I think a decision before Tour 4 would probably be most welcome = for all the teams concerned. I don't see any value in my trying to make a case. Si - Catch 22 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BFE092.74239800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't done any calculations on how likely it is that we (Catch = 22) will=20 get enough points to finish in the top 8 - can't do much about it = now.
If it is (as it sounds from Kev Lowe) unlikely that we can make the = top 8=20 then I think a decision before Tour 4 would probably be most welcome for = all the=20 teams concerned.
 
I don't see any value in my trying to make a case.
 
Si - Catch 22
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BFE092.74239800-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 10:29:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5S9SMS17445 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:28:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5S9SKe17430 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:28:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from web4305.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.104.197]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5S9SJR06318 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:28:19 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000628092623.26941.qmail@web4305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.188.13.231] by web4305.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:26:23 BST Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:26:23 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=20J?= Subject: Re: Tour 4 To: Si and/or Jack , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hmmm... I thought you folks were allowed to keep your seed anyway? Whatever the case it's probably fairest if every team is allowed to drop their worst place. You made a perfectly valid decision not to play, but at the same time a lot of teams which did play paid the price with injuries which didn't help their chances either (I know you wouldn't want an unfair advantage over them si ). Is this a lot more work for Chris and Co..??? Is Wayne the rest of Co.?? MJ - BAF ps - I'm speaking mostly for other teams because with the exception of our top gun Janie, we weren't hurt that bad by the fields, but I know the likes of Fusion and Hammerage were judging from the med tent. --- Si and/or Jack wrote: > I haven't done any calculations on how likely it is > that we (Catch 22) will get enough points to finish > in the top 8 - can't do much about it now. > If it is (as it sounds from Kev Lowe) unlikely that > we can make the top 8 then I think a decision before > Tour 4 would probably be most welcome for all the > teams concerned. > > I don't see any value in my trying to make a case. > > Si - Catch 22 > > > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 11:24:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SAODR01945 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:24:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SAOBe01927 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:24:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SAOBY03277 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:24:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:24:10 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08010; Wed, 28 Jun 00 11:24:09 BST Message-Id: <10006281024.AA08010@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:24:03 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tour 4 In-Reply-To: <003d01bfe08a$3c4f4580$3488bc3e@oemcomputer> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've been looking at the maths for this (I'm writing my thesis and any procrastination is good procrastination) and I'm not entirely convinced that Catch are already condemned to the bottom 8. Looking at results from T3 then the top 11 stand as 1) UTI 705 2) DB 702 3) CAF 662 4) DSM 573 5) Hammer 550 6) Druids 543 7) Red 525 8) HR 490 9) BAF 481 10) Fusion 480 11) C22 440 Thus Catch are only 50 points behind the 8th placed team (if my figures are correct - I'm sure someone will put me right if they're not), if they finish top 4 Headrush will need to come in ninth to force a draw in which case I think Headrush go through on the geo team rule (are Catch geo?), it should be noted that Headrush have come 10th twice this season in the 3 tours so far (and 6th once). Naturally if Catch come higher than 4th then they have so much more of a safety margin. Catch I think can still go through but it will depend on the results of others as well as on their own results, but the same can be said for most of the rest of the top 12. There are other teams also charging for that final place and lots of potential for a tie for 8th. All the more reason for deciding what to do about Catch before T4, I can't imagine any team drawing with them is going to be happy to be told they're not in the top 8 on the basis that Catch are 'known' to be the better team. Peter Connor Red (but speaking for myself) > I haven't done any calculations on how likely it is that we (Catch 22) will get enough points to finish in the top 8 - can't do much about it now. > If it is (as it sounds from Kev Lowe) unlikely that we can make the top 8 then I think a decision before Tour 4 would probably be most welcome for all the teams concerned. > > I don't see any value in my trying to make a case. > > Si - Catch 22 > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 14:22:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SDL5A29126 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:21:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SDL1e29104 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:21:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SDL1R10211 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:21:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09013 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:21:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <3959FBBA.E68FA79D@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:20:59 +0100 From: Tim Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nationals Tourny Seedings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I know everyone didn't listen to me last time on tourny format (including Chris Hughes, who I emailed seperately twice, without reply!), but here is a suggestion along similar lines which avoids "Pools of Death" and Catch's problem. I am assuming that all 16 teams at Nationals will be allowed to win Nationals. Are there objections to this? I must also declare that my team RSB stand to gain, as it provides us with an opportunity to finish the season in the top 8 (or win, in our dreams!!!). Here goes: 1) Everyone is SEEDED! 2) If you win you gain the higher seed, if you lose you gain the lower seed. There are no draws. Round 1: 1v15 , 2v16, 3v13, 4v14 ..... Round 2: 1v7, 2v8, 3v5 , 4v6 9v15, 10v16, 11v13, 12v14 Round 3: 1v3, 2v4 5v12, 6v11, 7v10, 8v9 13v15, 14v16 At this stage: There are only 8 teams which have 2 wins and they qualify for top 8. This system means you may lose to one team and still qualify. Note also that this system juggles the seedings, which is what the pool games are supposed to do. Now have quaters, semis and finals as normal in both 1-8 and 9-16. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 15:45:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SEhlo22618 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:43:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SEhke22610 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:43:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SEhjR21801 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:43:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:43:44 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09749; Wed, 28 Jun 00 15:43:43 BST Message-Id: <10006281443.AA09749@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:43:42 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Nationals Tourny Seedings In-Reply-To: <3959FBBA.E68FA79D@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim, I think you've identified the wrong problem, not everyone at nationals can win, there are 2 divisions, the top 8 and the bottom 8, each can only win their own division, the top 8 (in theory) are those teams which score the most ranking points from the 4 tour events, the bottom 8 are those that came in 9-16 on cumulative tour points. There are no cross overs between these divisions. So if Ro-Sham are ranked (eg) 14th after the tour the best they can end up at nationals is 9th (ie 1st in the second division). To clarify, the problem with Catch is whether they will have 1) enough points to make it to the top 8 and if not should they be let in any way 2) whether they would be seeded 8th/4th (whatever) and whether this would create a group of death. You might want to suggest a format that would avoid this with as with your 16 team format - I make no comment as to whether you'll be ignored again, Pete Red (but speaking for myself) > I know everyone didn't listen to me last time on tourny format > (including Chris Hughes, who I emailed seperately twice, without > reply!), but here is a suggestion along similar lines which avoids > "Pools of Death" and Catch's problem. > > I am assuming that all 16 teams at Nationals will be allowed to win > Nationals. Are there objections to this? I must also declare that my > team RSB stand to gain, as it provides us with an opportunity to finish > the season in the top 8 (or win, in our dreams!!!). > > Here goes: > > 1) Everyone is SEEDED! > 2) If you win you gain the higher seed, if you lose you gain the lower > seed. There are no draws. > > Round 1: > 1v15 , 2v16, 3v13, 4v14 ..... > > Round 2: > 1v7, 2v8, 3v5 , 4v6 > 9v15, 10v16, 11v13, 12v14 > > Round 3: > 1v3, 2v4 > 5v12, 6v11, 7v10, 8v9 > 13v15, 14v16 > > At this stage: There are only 8 teams which have 2 wins and they > qualify for top 8. This system means you may lose to one team and still > qualify. Note also that this system juggles the seedings, which is what > the pool games are supposed to do. > > Now have quaters, semis and finals as normal in both 1-8 and 9-16. > > Tim > Ro-Sham-Bo > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 17:25:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SGOrj16263 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:24:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SGOpe16252 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:24:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from imo-r14.mx.aol.com (imo-r14.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.68]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SGOpY04987 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:24:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from JJimwater@aol.com by imo-r14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id 8.e6.761411b (4573) for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:24:36 -0400 (EDT) From: JJimwater@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:24:35 EDT Subject: exeter hat/juniors To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.i for Windows sub 176 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk i thought i should clear up the exeter hat / juniors rant thing. its a bit late because i havent been near a computer for a while. i got to exeter on saturday morning and began to throw around with my teammate (from jedi, adam) . i saw a young person standing about looking lost so i asked him if he wanted to throw. talking to him we found he was a gb junior. soon after they called us in to sign up. after this the junior said that he was probably going to go because his friend hadn't shown up. he did leave but then i am pretty sure i saw him in southampton with the gb juniors so he can't have been that put off. anyway i just thought i should say that noone said he couldn't play (as far as i know) and it was his decision not to stay cheers to the exeter organisers for a quality weekend thanks garry (jedi) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 17:47:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SGkvM20562 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:46:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SGkte20556 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:46:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.BMPDDB.COM (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SGktY07470 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:46:55 +0100 (BST) Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:46:52 +0100 Message-ID: <12ABA23297FBD31183C60008C786586A526CD8@polaris.bmpddb.com> From: David.Trovell@omduk.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: exeter hat/juniors Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:46:51 +0100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <12ABA23297FBD31183C60008C786586A526CD8@polaris.bmpddb.com> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Will the offending Junior please step forward. Apologies to the Exeter organisers from me and various others, looks like we jumped in without knowing all the facts (in true Britdisc style!). Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: JJimwater@aol.com [SMTP:JJimwater@aol.com] > Sent: 28 June 2000 17:25 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: exeter hat/juniors > > i thought i should clear up the exeter hat / juniors rant thing. its a > bit > late because i havent been near a computer for a while. > i got to exeter on saturday morning and began to throw around with my > teammate > (from jedi, adam) . i saw a young person standing about looking lost so i > asked him if he wanted to throw. talking to him we found he was a gb > junior. > soon after they called > us in to sign up. after this the junior said that he was probably going to > go > because his friend hadn't shown up. > he did leave but then i am pretty sure i saw him in southampton with the > gb > juniors > so he can't have been that put off. anyway i just thought i should say > that > noone said he couldn't play (as far as i know) and it was his decision not > to > stay > cheers to the exeter organisers for a quality weekend > thanks > garry (jedi) > begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(C40`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06``P`.````T`<&`!P` M$0`N`#,``P!N`0$@@`,`#@```-`'!@`<`!$`+@`S``,`;@$!"8`!`"$```!# M-C1#0C4X-#$P-$1$-#$Q.#-$.#`P,#A#-S@V-3@V00`!!P$$@`$`%P```%)% M.B!E>&5T97(@:&%T+VIU;FEO M`!B`""`&``````#`````````1@````!4A0```0````4````X+C`R``````,` M"(`((`8``````,````````!&``````&%````````"P``@`@@!@``````P``` M`````$8``````X4````````+`!V`""`&``````#`````````1@`````.A0`` M``````,``H`((`8``````,````````!&`````!"%`````````P`>@`@@!@`` M````P````````$8`````$84````````#`""`""`&``````#`````````1@`` M```8A0```````!X`+X`((`8``````,````````!&`````#:%```!`````0`` M```````>`#"`""`&``````#`````````1@`````WA0```0````$````````` M'@`Q@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````.(4```$````!``````````(!"1`! 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M($\'0")`1]`A8&4A,!=@<&:=6J%N(.`\M1Y@````/&4V+C`/@_ M`0````X```!$879I9"!4`#E``0````T```!$059) M1%123U9%3$P`````0``',$S$2SL@X;\!0``(,.*@4W4@X;\!'@`]``$````% M````4D4Z(``````>`!T.`0```!,```!E>&5T97(@:&%T+VIU;FEO; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:58:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost ([213.130.129.51]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5SGwlY08892 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:58:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from KEVIN (200.200.200.124) by mailhost with MERCUR-SMTP/POP3/IMAP4-Server (v3.10.09 AS-0098310) for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:10:07 +0100 Received: by KEVIN with Microsoft Mail id <01BFE12A.3C6CC2E0@KEVIN>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:56:50 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFE12A.3C6CC2E0@KEVIN> From: Kevin Lowe To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Exeter Hat Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:56:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5SGwme23161 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I don't think people were too quick to jump in. I talked to Sam this weekend (the little lost kid / GB Junior). He said he was throwing around with a couple of guys from Jedi, and then went and queued up to register. While in the queue, someone (not Dave Hillier, the organiser) said that juniors couldn't play, and he gave up and left. It would be nice to find the idiot that said that to him, and see if they are willing to pay for him to go to the next Hat tournament (Edinborough I think). If that wasn't heard by anyone else, then I guess no one could have spoken up for Sam. He hasn't been playing long, so accepted the idiot's view, made his excuses and left. Kevin. -- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07974 417626 | So the meek shall inherit the earth, | Because they haven't the strength to refuse. |--- | If you have an Orange, One2One or Virgin mobile phone | and never want to pay more than 3.5p per minute, or if | you're with BT and want 33%+ savings on all calls, email | or visit http://www.telco-gc.com/agent.asp?ID=40471872 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 18:01:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SH0vc23647 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:00:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SH0ue23642 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:00:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SH0tY09172 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:00:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF812E009A; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:01:53 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.144.203] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF3C3B0294; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:00:44 +0100 Message-ID: <002901bfe122$7a7ccc40$cb9043d4@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: <20000625184856.83579.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Technical Question Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:49:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk New Scientist article "Flight of the Frisbee" 28/7/90 :- Each of these Jpeg images are around 400k - I couldn't scan them any smaller. The first one is just the magazine cover picture (who's the GB player?) http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/fotf/fotf1.jpg http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/fotf/fotf2.jpg http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/fotf/fotf3.jpg http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/fotf/fotf4.jpg http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/fotf/fotf5.jpg Anyone know of a decent cheap OCR package? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Retter To: Sent: 26 June 2000 20:11 Subject: Re: Technical Question > Sun, 25 Jun 2000, by Antony Marsh ; > Subject: Technical Question > >Why do ultimate discs fly straight, > > They do? :) > > > whereas "overstable" golf discs fade > >away to the left (for a right-handed backhand) ? > > and "understable" golf discs fade right, > and "stable" golf discs... fly straight! > > >Can someone help? > > New Scientist, several years back, had an article. I'm fairly sure that > there are others. > > I'd suggest that you start at http://www.ultilinks.com/ for links to > your answers. > > Wayne > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > mobile: 07970-903420 > w.retter@bigfoot.com > office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jun 28 18:09:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5SH9Wc25841 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:09:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SH9Ue25835 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:09:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5SH9KR13628 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:09:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from blackmoor.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.127.253]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 137LKx-0005OI-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:09:20 +0100 Received: from BLACKMOOR/SpoolDir by blackmoor.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 28 Jun 00 18:09:19 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BLACKMOOR (Mercury 1.46); 28 Jun 00 18:09:16 +0100 From: "Pete Coy" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:09:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: More clarification X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since we are getting things clarified before Tour 4, will the rule you can't play with less than seven players be used. Just in case! Pete (DSM) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 09:21:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5T8Ku116265 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:20:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5T8Kse16258 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:20:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5T8KrR25412 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:20:54 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA02527 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:08:37 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:08:37 +0100 Message-Id: <005d01bfe1a3$6d3df8c0$be17010a@w046901.uk.zurich.com> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Nationals Suggestion Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:24:21 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BD, Just a suggestion about Nationals : It is clear that at the moment there are 4 dominant teams (UTI, DB, CAF & C22 - DSM are clearly fast closing the gap though) and that the 8 teams below these are currently a step ahead of those ranked 13 and below (Point Blank, Nightfever, Skunks etc - none of whom have consistently finished in the Top 12 of any of the 3 tours - N.B. Nightfever DID finish 12th at Towcester in the absence of C22 but that's by-the-by). Is it possible to have 12 teams qualify for Division 1 (2x6, 3x4 or 4x3) at Nationals and then the next 8 (2x4) qualify for Division 2 ? It should be easily possible to seed the event so that all 4 of the "Top" teams can reach the semi's, avoid a pool of death with 3 of the 4 in it and still retain the integrity of the tournament. Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 09:58:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5T8w1c24590 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:58:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5T8vxe24580 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:57:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5T8vxY00801 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:57:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:56:47 +0100 Received: by exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:57:47 +0100 Message-Id: <8102C4585310D211858D0060B01A41330170E72C@exchpk02.chelt.ac.uk> From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'BritDisc'" Subject: Moot Point Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:57:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Its very pleasing to see the number of people interested in equity, and the Catch boys must be very pleased to discover just how many people are concerned about their welfare, but its all a little irrelevant until we have cleared one small hurdle... If any one has a venue out there that can supply a minimum of 8 pitches, lukewarm showers (hey - its Nationals, why be different?), first aid cover, food, accommodation for approx. 100 people, party, all at a sensible price, then now is the time to speak up. Until they do, the rest of us haven't qualified for anything. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 12:48:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TBlYk05176 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:47:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TBlXe05168 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:47:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TBlWY22851 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:47:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Thu Jun 29 04:46:58 2000 To: "'BritDisc'" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:46:58 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Moot Point X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:57:46 HUGHES, Chris wrote: > Until they do, the rest of us haven't qualified for > anything. Ah, yes... that little sticking point of there not yet being a bid to host Nationals... I'd forgotten about that, in all the other exitement. Wayne --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com (mobile) 07970-903420 (office) 01737-273655 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 12:58:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TBus207372 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:56:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TBuqe07361 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:56:52 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:57:24 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Vanessa White" Subject: Women's Nationals: Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Vanessa White" Subject: Women's Nationals: Reminder Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:32:04 PDT Womens Nationals takes place in Southampton this weekend. If you don't have a team please still come down there are teams that can accommodate you. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Directions and times to follow. Vanessa White BUF Womens Co-Ordinator 07970 903422 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 13:05:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TC4pM08964 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TC4me08954 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TC4hY25348 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (cst386.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.62]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e5TC4bv24683; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <395B3B55.34AAE3@york.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:37 +0100 From: Aftershock Organization: york.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Catch 22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk While the debate still rages on about Catch: If they had turned up to Towcester with only three players (for some obscure reason) and subsequently lost all their games (might not have happened, as my team lost 15-1 against 6 fusion players!), then wouldn't they be in a similar position (i.e. maybe not able to qualify for top 8, but 'clearly' one of the top 4 teams). Would 'everyone' still be wanting them to be bumped up? They can still make it on their own merits, so why the need to let them in even if they fail. Merely food for thought Jaimie YBK, Swamp Donkeys From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 13:10:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TC8mP09982 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:08:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TC8le09966 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:08:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mh-a03.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TC8fY25892 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:08:41 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 5223 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 12:08:40 -0000 Received: from www-a21.backend.another.com (HELO localhost) (172.16.100.21) by mh-a03.backend.another.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 12:08:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4748137.962280513223.JavaMail.root@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:08:33 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: bruce@pointblank.co.uk To: Britdisc Subject: Re: Nationals Suggestion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="19404340.962280513209.JavaMail.root@localhost" X-Funmail-UID: 268015 X-Senders-IP: unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --19404340.962280513209.JavaMail.root@localhost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think you might find that Nightfever and ourselves would object a little = to THAT little comment. Seeing as PB were put out of the top 12 in Tours 1 = and 2 by Fusion, who finished 5th at Tour 3, and by BAF who had just droppe= d out of the top 8 at Tour 3 (and we were ironman), we feel that if we fina= lly get a good pool draw, we can break into the top 12, and I'm sure Nightf= ever feel the same way.=20 I made the point a while ago that there are 14 top 12 teams, a mathmatical = impossibility I know, but the point is that the top 12 is not a dividing li= ne between abilities, but in the draw, scheduling, and where the playoff li= nes are drawn. If we lose one game on the Saturday, 13 is the best we can d= o. That is the way it's worked out so far, and don't get me wrong I'm not b= itter about it or anything. We lump it.=20 Where we WOULD get bitter though is if suddenly you change the Nationals fo= rmat to top 12 and bottom 8. We'd only have a couple of decent matches all = weekend, and stand no chance of improving a position we've had little chanc= e to improve already. Bruce Point Blank -----Original Message----- >From : James Hewitson To : Britdisc Date : 29 June 2000 09:24:21 Subject : Nationals Suggestion BD, > >Just a suggestion about Nationals : > >It is clear that at the moment there are 4 dominant teams (UTI, DB, CAF & >C22 - DSM are clearly fast closing the gap though) and that the 8 teams >below these are currently a step ahead of those ranked 13 and below (Point >Blank, Nightfever, Skunks etc - none of whom have consistently finished in >the Top 12 of any of the 3 tours - N.B. Nightfever DID finish 12th at >Towcester in the absence of C22 but that's by-the-by). > >Is it possible to have 12 teams qualify for Division 1 (2x6, 3x4 or 4x3) a= t >Nationals and then the next 8 (2x4) qualify for Division 2 ? > >It should be easily possible to seed the event so that all 4 of the =93Top= =93 >teams can reach the semi's, avoid a pool of death with 3 of the 4 in it an= d >still retain the integrity of the tournament. > >Balti >BAF 34 > > > > Your email address says a lot about you. Express yourself @ another.com http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=3Danother.com/login.jsp?sig=3D393 --19404340.962280513209.JavaMail.root@localhost-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 13:17:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TCGvf12306 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TCGte12292 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f267.hotmail.com [216.32.180.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TCGsY27394 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 30591 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jun 2000 12:16:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000629121643.30590.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.159.131.198 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:16:43 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.159.131.198] From: "Adam Milner" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Catch 22 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:16:43 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jamie, your missing the point. Catch did have a full compliment of players but made the decision not to play do to the state of the pitches. The reason people are trying to accomodate them is because we agree with their choice in not playing on that surface. If they'd turned up with 3 players then they would deserve not to make top 8. Adam MMJ >From: Aftershock >To: BritDisc >Subject: Catch 22 >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:37 +0100 > >While the debate still rages on about Catch: If they had turned up to >Towcester with only three players (for some obscure reason) and >subsequently lost all their games (might not have happened, as my team >lost 15-1 against 6 fusion players!), then wouldn't they be in a similar >position (i.e. maybe not able to qualify for top 8, but 'clearly' one of >the top 4 teams). Would 'everyone' still be wanting them to be bumped >up? They can still make it on their own merits, so why the need to let >them in even if they fail. >Merely food for thought > >Jaimie >YBK, Swamp Donkeys > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 13:22:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TCM1513517 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:22:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TCM0e13507 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:22:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TCLxY28274 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:21:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:19:45 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:19:39 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: New team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5TCM0e13509 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Just a quick one. I'm looking into starting a geo team here in Loughborough and I was wondering if anyone had any tips on how to start a team. I would especially like advice on where to find people who may be interested, as I will not have the benefit of a fresher fair. Sorry to those of you that I've discussed this with before. Thanks in advance, Matt Swamp Donkeys Home: Matthew.lowe@dtn.ntl.com Work: matthewl@fisher.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 13:55:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TCso521500 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:54:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TCsme21488 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:54:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate01.e-mail.com (eugate01.e-mail.com [194.196.143.93]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TCsmR29791 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:54:48 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id MAA297264 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:52:11 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:56:09 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBF38BFD@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: BritDisc Subject: RE: Catch 22 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:56:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Not very helpful Jaimie, there's a world of difference between turning up with three players and not wanting to risk injury on substandard pitches. As for the suggestions of having a top 16 format at nationals, the reasons against this are the same reasons for having a top 8 division at the tour. Last weekend at Southampton my team, UTI, played five matches, each to 17 or 19 points. We had very competitive games against each of the other 'top 4' teams, as well as two other less close but very worthwhile matches against Red and Purple. Even assuming the 'top 4' all made the semis, you wouldn't have been able to predict who would play who, nor who would make the final. There's no way you could get all that into a 16 team, two day tournament. Either games would have to be more and shorter, or the format would be more structured e.g. 1st and 4th seeds could not meet in the final even if both won all their games. I hope to see Catch in the top 8 at nationals however it comes about, a 'Group Of Death' might liven up Saturday a bit. But it's more important to maintain the quality and integrity of the event. And besides, the BUF Ultimsixteen Tour's a crap name. Having said that, I don't see any reason not to have a 5-12 crossover at nationals. Alex UTI -----Original Message----- From: Aftershock [mailto:jbc102@york.ac.uk] Sent: 29 June 2000 13:05 To: BritDisc Subject: Catch 22 While the debate still rages on about Catch: If they had turned up to Towcester with only three players (for some obscure reason) and subsequently lost all their games (might not have happened, as my team lost 15-1 against 6 fusion players!), then wouldn't they be in a similar position (i.e. maybe not able to qualify for top 8, but 'clearly' one of the top 4 teams). Would 'everyone' still be wanting them to be bumped up? They can still make it on their own merits, so why the need to let them in even if they fail. Merely food for thought Jaimie YBK, Swamp Donkeys All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. 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If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 14:46:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TDjMt06796 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:45:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TDjLe06788 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:45:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f110.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.110]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TDjKY13639 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:45:20 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4393 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jun 2000 13:45:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000629134506.4392.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.1.140.116 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:45:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.1.140.116] From: "Antony Marsh" To: ben@ravilious.net Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Technical Question Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:45:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben Thanks for giving me something to read to keep me from watching tennis all day! I hope to start throwing again (following my return from the US) just as soon as I can find some money to get to a practice!! What's BUF policy on joining a team for Tour events mid-season? Any rostering issues I should know about? > > >Why do ultimate discs fly straight, > > > > They do? :) > > So there's a reason why none of my passes go to the receiver? :) Tony ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 15:19:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TEJ4b15485 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:19:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TEJ3e15476 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:19:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from mh-a03.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TEJ2Y19577 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:19:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 23182 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 14:19:01 -0000 Received: from www-a20.backend.another.com (HELO www-a20) (172.16.100.20) by mh-a03.backend.another.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 14:19:01 -0000 Message-ID: <21499564.962288334969.JavaMail.root@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:18:54 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: bruce@pointblank.co.uk To: Britdisc Subject: RE: Nationals Suggestion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="27324201.962288334953.JavaMail.root@www-a20" X-Funmail-UID: 268015 X-Senders-IP: unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --27324201.962288334953.JavaMail.root@www-a20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kev wrote, >I don't understand your reasoning. You would normally have to lose two gam= es on the Saturday to be out of the top 12, unless you keep on getting 3 wa= y ties. You're in a pool that is 9,11,14,16 or 10,12,13,15. That should be = three close games. If you're seeded 14 and you beat the 16th placed team, y= ou have two shots at making the top 12 - beat team 9 or team 11. > Actually for Tour 3 you are right, but we had Fusion (finished 5th) and BAF= (had just dropped out of the top 8). This was because Ro Sham Bo were seed= ed according to their tour 1 place and pushed better teams down (they finis= hed well below us) At tour 1 we were seeded outside the top 16 because we w= ere a new team, and at tour 2 the pool was 12,13, and 2 much lower teams, n= ot how you suggested. We were 13, Fusion were 12 after also being seeded lo= w at tour 1. As I said, we're not bothered, it all works out in the end.=20 >There has to be a dividing line at Nationals, or you >are back into the 'a= nyone can win' situation where so >much is based on the luck of the seeding= s, and more >games are needed. > >For the last couple of years, the dividing line has >been at 8. This has b= een very harsh on Headrush who >finished 9th. The difference between the te= ams based >6-11 are extremely close now, far closer than they >ever were.= =20 > The real point I was making was that given the tour differentiates between = the 5-12 and 12-20 in terms of Sunday playoff games, it would be extremly h= arsh to do that at Nationals, but with NO chance to cross over to the top 1= 2.=20 We beat Strange Blue this tour, and they finished top 12 in tours 1 and 2, = unfortunately, we lost to BAF and Fusion. I know you cannot avoid having po= ols of death, but we've had it twice now, combine that with a 19th seed(I t= hink) in tour 1 and if we split National top 12 bottom 8, we'd be really an= noyed, as we thought we knew what we were aiming for this season, and it wo= uld have been taken away from us mid season by an arbitary decision. Everyo= ne is going on about =93Standardising the rules throughout the tour=93. Don= 't change Nationals mid year then. Fine, do it next year, then everyone knows from day one what they have to d= o. >If the line is now set at 12, you and Fever know >exactly what you must ac= hieve to make Division 1 at >Nationals. There's probably only one place to = play >for, but that was the purpose of making the tour >qualification for N= ationals - making it competitive. > This is where I disagree most. There isn't a place to play for. That's my p= oint. There are about 4 teams to fill the 11th and 12th spots. And it comes= down to pools. If you want a suggestion for Nationals, then split the other way, top 4, bo= ttom 12. I really don't see anyone (Sorry DSM) beating one of the top four = at nationals, so why bother letting anyone try. They can all play each othe= r twice, and have semis and final based on that. Everyone else can play for the rest of the places in whatever manner works = (I'm not up on tourney scheduling) That way the 5th placed team is the one = who =93misses out=93, but to be fair, they are the ones who have the least = chance of achieving a step up. That's all folks. Bruce Point Blank Be whoever you want to be with another.com Just click here: http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=3Danother.com/login.j= sp?sig=3D390 --27324201.962288334953.JavaMail.root@www-a20-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 16:00:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TExPX27358 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:59:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TExLe27318 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:59:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from chvpk-wss2.sr.chevron.com (cppat2.chevron.com [208.33.240.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TExKY26624 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:59:20 +0100 (BST) X-Server-Uuid: 26fe3e76-19dd-11d3-be09-0008c7b1f151 Message-ID: <19F52E0DF38ED211865600805F31B8F901756BBB@chevron.com> From: "Batty, Ian (IBAT)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pools of Death Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:59:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-WSS-ID: 1545BBB71567-01-02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know that the idea of the Tour is to create "true seeding" but there have ALWAYS been pools of death: 1997 Nationals, Seeds 1-8 Pool was the result of the tour. The pools were Pool A: Shotgun, Catch 22, Violently Happy, Red Pool B: Chevron AF, Druids, Stan, Oxford (?) Shotgun and Catch came 1st and 2nd, VH and Red came 5th and 6th. This means that EVERY match between Pool A and Pool B was won by Pool A. We (as VH) never got a shot at Druids or Chevron. Would we have won? Who knows. Was Pool A a "pool of death"? Quite possibly. Do we care? Not really; that was the format, we lived by it. We won the games we won, we lost the other games, we drank beer, we had a good time(*) Pools of death WILL occur. People who get completely hung up on coming 5th or 4th in a tournament (even if it is Nationals) need to remember that the reason you play this game.... is to PLAY THE GAME! If you want to get hung up on stats, go and play Fantasy Football. Just my thoughts, from someone who just runs (slowly), catches (occasionally) and throws (poorly) but has fun doing it. Batman (ex VH and others) (*) We also had a magnificent scoring system in our semi- final against Stan, but that is another story. ---------------------------------------------------- Ian Batty Chevron Canada Resources email: ibat@chevron.com tel: (403) 234-5282 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 16:51:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TFoxn15411 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:50:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TFoue15391 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:50:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TFouR24482 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:50:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:50:06 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16855; Thu, 29 Jun 00 16:50:06 BST Message-Id: <10006291550.AA16855@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:50:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Catch at Nationals In-Reply-To: <009401bfe07b$b0e72200$c5498cd4@default> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > A simple solution to the C22 situ.... > Drop the worst Tour result from the seeding for the nationals. This allows > the Tour to maintain the structure as it was understood and provides C22 a > back door (if they want/need it). > Del > UTI Whether you think C22 should be moved into the top 8 or not, manipulating the rules in this way to elevate one team would have a potentially unfair affect on those other teams further down the pecking order. If its decided that it is necessary/desirable to bring Catch into the top 8 it seems that the best way would be with the minimum of impact upon the rules as they stand., ie whoever has the least points on the board at the end of tour 4 gets kicked into the bottom 8, changing the maths for everyone only has the potential for greater injustice. (None of which is to say that I agree Catch should be allowed in if they don't have the points to do so) Pete Red (speaking for myself) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 20:56:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TJtp829879 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:55:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TJtoe29873 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:55:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TJtnY27630 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:55:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from york.ac.uk (cst379.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.55]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e5TJtiv26354 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:55:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <395BA9BF.CB64C21A@york.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:55:43 +0100 From: Aftershock Organization: york.ac.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: Catch 22 References: <20000629121643.30590.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Adam, you're missing my point. Catch 22 decided to pull out of Tour 2 because none of their opposition would come and play them on the pitch they had found. As was pointed out after this weekends 'nanny state' argument, Catch's opposition at Towcester could have made the same decision (i.e. not play them) if they had only had 3 players. The difference is, what actually happened has been deemed as more acceptable. Catch 22 can still make the top 8 at Nationals if they play well enough at Leeds. Don't change the boundaries now, this isn't the FA cup! Jaimie YBK, Swamp Donkeys PS Jaimie, not 'Jamie'. I can spell my own name. Adam Milner wrote: > Jamie, your missing the point. Catch did have a full compliment of players > but made the decision not to play do to the state of the pitches. The reason > people are trying to accomodate them is because we agree with their choice > in not playing on that surface. If they'd turned up with 3 players then they > would deserve not to make top 8. > Adam > MMJ > > >From: Aftershock > >To: BritDisc > >Subject: Catch 22 > >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:04:37 +0100 > > > >While the debate still rages on about Catch: If they had turned up to > >Towcester with only three players (for some obscure reason) and > >subsequently lost all their games (might not have happened, as my team > >lost 15-1 against 6 fusion players!), then wouldn't they be in a similar > >position (i.e. maybe not able to qualify for top 8, but 'clearly' one of > >the top 4 teams). Would 'everyone' still be wanting them to be bumped > >up? They can still make it on their own merits, so why the need to let > >them in even if they fail. > >Merely food for thought > > > >Jaimie > >YBK, Swamp Donkeys > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 21:00:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TJxrE00608 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TJxpe00599 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from scanner.tesco.net (spare6.btinternet.com [194.73.73.70] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TJxkR14739 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.22.208] (helo=ianstebb) by scanner.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 137kTR-0006OJ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:59:45 +0100 Message-ID: <009a01bfe205$03c94860$d016ac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed series standings coming soon Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:56:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All- For those of you waiting for the team standings after event 2 of the mixed series, they are on the way. I just need to clear up a few rostering questions and get everyone logged in. I am being VERY careful about who gets new player points, and do not want to make a mistake. Expect an update within two weeks. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 23:06:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TM5g220541 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:05:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TM5ee20532 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:05:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TM5ZR21858 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:05:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 199 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 22:05:34 -0000 Received: from userek06.uk.uudial.com (HELO oemcomputer) (62.188.13.116) by smtp.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 22:05:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01bfe216$e8cd74c0$740dbc3e@oemcomputer> From: "Si and/or Jack" To: "Aftershock" , "BritDisc" References: <20000629121643.30590.qmail@hotmail.com> <395BA9BF.CB64C21A@york.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Catch 22 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:10:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Brief correction for the sake of accuracy: > ... Catch 22 decided to pull out of Tour 2 because > none of their opposition would come and play them on the pitch they had found. Catch 22 would not play in Tour 2 becuase the fields were not safe. The fact that we attempted to find a solution that turned out to be unacceptable both to our opponents and the organisers (i.e. the footie field on the other side of the road) is incidental. I think there is a difference. Si From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jun 29 23:55:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TMsCp27871 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:54:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TMs9e27863 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:54:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (web118.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.99]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e5TMs8Y09313 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:54:08 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 10743 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jun 2000 22:54:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000629225401.10741.qmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [193.113.185.171] by web118.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:54:01 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Mallarkey?= Reply-To: strijka@yahoo.com Subject: Hong Kong 7's photos at ForcingHome To: sneeekys@egroups.com, ro-sham-bo@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, apologies if you get this message more than once. Just wanted to let you all know that I have just this minute finished updating my Ultimate photo website, http://www.forcinghome.co.uk , with the photos I took at the Hong Kong 7's Co-Ed tournament two weeks ago. There's loads of action photos, and plenty more pictures to keep your mind occupied. So why not spend ten minutes of your lunch break looking at some cool Ultimate photos. The address once again - http://www.forcinghome.co.uk Thanks, Andy Sneeeky's, Edinburgh ===== >From Andrew Mallarkey a.k.a. strijka It's pronounced "stree-kaa" Check out my Ultimate (frisbee) photo website -http://www.forcinghome.co.uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 00:05:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5TN4Rr29610 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:04:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TN4Oe29590 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:04:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5TN4OY10297 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:04:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 137nM7-0004qd-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:04:23 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:02:23 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Technical Question References: <20000629134506.4392.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000629134506.4392.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >> > >Why do ultimate discs fly straight, >> > >> > They do? :) >> > > >So there's a reason why none of my passes go to the receiver? :) Your receivers are in the wrong place, and heading the wrong way. The pass was perfect. :) W ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 02:39:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5U1dL822870 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:39:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5U1dKe22865 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:39:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5U1dIY16189 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:39:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from neptune (p194-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.154.194]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id NAA23464 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:39:13 +1200 Message-ID: <000201bfe234$8d075cf0$0b00000a@neptune> Reply-To: "Neil Cooper" From: "Neil Cooper" To: Subject: Tour results ? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:02:43 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tour III - So much debate on the outcomes whats and wherefores ... no results yet :-( any chance of some ? either posted on britdisc or the ultim8 web site updated .... Looking forward to the C22 outcome .... Coops. (x Headrush in New Zealand). Re : technical question - I've found that in the Southern Hemisphere, you have to over compensate due to the xx effect reversing the fade. Also hammers have a tendency to double heel more often. ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 03:13:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5U2DCG26125 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:13:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5U2DBe26120 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:13:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.ihug.co.nz (tk1.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5U2D8Y17476 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:13:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from neptune (p194-tnt6.akl.ihug.co.nz [216.100.154.194]) by smtp1.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA13595 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:13:03 +1200 Message-ID: <000801bfe239$478d5080$0b00000a@neptune> Reply-To: "Neil Cooper" From: "Neil Cooper" To: Subject: Fw: Tour results ? / tip of the day .... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:17:01 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk don't ever use 'send later' in Outlook, you're ignorance will be found out ... replace xx with correolis and a story (if Stu and Si can .....) re: playing with short numbers . Indoor nationals in Leicester in '96 ??? Headrush on first against Druids and surprise surprise, most of the team hadn't got there yet .. if it's not turning up late its slinking off early ... ;-) myself and Marco played 5 on 2, lost 13-1 , but the 1 was enjoyable. Could have been 2 but Marco spammed a hammer. Coops. off to see the Scots get caned tomorrow against the all blacks ... o flower of scotland, when shall we see your ............................................... -----Original Message----- From: Neil Cooper To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Friday, 30 June 2000 13:42 Subject: Tour results ? >Tour III - So much debate on the outcomes whats and wherefores ... no >results yet :-( >any chance of some ? either posted on britdisc or the ultim8 web site >updated .... > >Looking forward to the C22 outcome .... > >Coops. (x Headrush in New Zealand). > >Re : technical question - I've found that in the Southern Hemisphere, you >have to over compensate due to the xx effect reversing the fade. Also >hammers have a tendency to double heel more often. ;-) > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 12:36:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5UBZ5O06947 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UBZ2e06930 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UBZ2Y01595 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA26297 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <395C85E1.DC7D569E@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:34:57 +0100 From: Tim Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The top 8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Isn't the whole top 8 issue is getting out of hand? I realise that there are advantages to being in the top 8: getting beat (so you can improve) by the best teams in the country, and some sense of achievement due to quantifying team improvement. However, being in the top 8 is becoming some kind of status symbol. The fact is that that there is only a minute difference between teams positioned 8 and 9, and that the variance in standard of a given team is pretty high: most teams never field exactly the same set of players for every tour. People generally seem to be opposed to the idea of a nationals where a team can drop out of, or move up into the top 8. Personally, I think it is silly, especially when a team which clearly should be able to win Nationals will not have the opportunity. If people bother to read it, the tourny format that I put forward would allow such a system and would avoid the so called "Pool of Death". Note also that if people really do want to keep top 8 seperate from 9-16, the system works equally well for 8, just with one less game. 5 games in a weekend, as opposed to 6. Usual disclaimers apply. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 15:21:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5UEJuL20271 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:19:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UEJre20251 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:19:53 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:20:31 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Vanessa White" Subject: Directions and Captains Meeting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e5UEJse20255 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Vanessa White" Subject: Directions and Captains Meeting Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:31:35 PDT Womens Nationals takes place in Southampton this weekend. If you don't have a team please still come down there are teams that can accommodate you. Captains meeting at 10am If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Directions >From the West … Approach Southampton Eastbound on the M27 … Turn off at Junction 5. Signposted 'A335' and 'Airport' … Take first exit off roundabout. Signposted 'Sports Grounds' and 'Chandlers Ford' … There is a no left turn, to the road you want so you will need to go about a mile up the round and do a U-turn at the mini-roundabout at the end. … Heading back towards the motorway, turn right into Stoneham Lane. Signposted 'St Nicolas Church' and 'Sports Grounds' … Follow bend round and Entrance to Wellington is on the right immediately after the church. >From the East … Approaching Southampton Westbound on the M27 … Turn off at Junction 5. NB. There is no junction 6. … Take the third exit off the roundabout northbound. Signposted 'Sports Grounds' and 'Chandlers Ford' … There is a no left turn, to the round you want so you will need to go about a mile up the round and do a U-turn at the mini-roundabout at the end. … Heading back towards the motorway, turn right into Stoneham Lane. Signposted 'St Nicolas Church' and 'Sports Grounds' … Follow bend round and Entrance to Wellington is on the right immediately after the church. >From the North … Approaching Southampton Southbound on the M3 … Follow the M3 all the way to its end where it turns into the M27 … Stay to the right and take the M27 East … Turn off the M27 at Junction 5. Signposted 'A335' and 'Airport' … Take first exit off roundabout. Signposted 'Sports Grounds' and 'Chandlers Ford' … There is a no left turn, to the round you want so you will need to go about a mile up the round and do a U-turn at the mini-roundabout at the end. … Heading back towards the motorway, turn right into Stoneham Lane. Signposted 'St Nicolas Church' and 'Sports Grounds' … Follow bend round and Entrance to Wellington is on the right immediately after the church. By Rail Southampton Airport Parkway is the nearest station. It is opposite Wide Lane and a ten/fifteen minute walk from Wellington. To walk to Wellington turn left out of the main terminal building and turn right at the roundabout. At the next roundabout take the first right. Then take the first left and follow the road round. Wellington is on the right straight after the church. Alternatively you could walk across Wide Lane and use the stile in the back right hand corner as you look at it from the station. Once over the style cross the stream and take the road almost straight ahead, Wellington is on your right round the bend. Alternatively there should be Taxis coming and going to pick up the commuters from the London trains. You want Wellington Sports Ground, Stoneham Lane. Vanessa White BUF Womens Co-Ordinator 07970 903422 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jun 30 23:12:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e5UMBVI07917 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:11:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UMBTe07910 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:11:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e5UMBSR06950 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:11:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB5013D300E6; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:12:32 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.148.245] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB0D24B400A2; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:11:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bfe2e0$34d6b060$f59443d4@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Team Search Engine Update Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:49:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Update to the team search box on the BUF website. It now recognises most UK place names and will list all teams by distance from the location you enter. http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ Apologies to anyone in Northern Ireland - I don't have grid reference data for you so it doesn't work there. Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 1 05:58:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e614vcM19667 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:57:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e614vbe19660 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:57:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e614vbY20733 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:57:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from cloe.demon.co.uk ([194.222.139.162]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 138FLT-000Kc0-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 04:57:36 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 05:56:01 +0100 To: "'Britdisc'" From: David Whitehead Subject: Catch and Nationals MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One easy solution to this problem that has not been mentioned is to give Catch points for the place they really earned at Tour 2 by showing up to the tournament. Suppose that instead of simply refusing to play on the given pitches, they had just attended each of their games and walked every point. They would have lost six straight games and would have finished 12th, gaining 130 points for the Tour. With this and their usual top-4 finish at Tour 4, they would finish the Tour in the top-4 where they belong. Don't you think it's a bit harsh to give them zero points when they would get 130 by losing every time? If they hadn't bothered to come to the tournament at all, that would be another story. I think that it would be a complete farce if Catch were not allowed to compete for first place at Nationals. *Everybody* knows they are one of the top four teams, and very few people think they deserve to be effectively disqualified for their actions. Since we are in accord on both of these important points, let's find a way to do the right thing. If I had my choice, I would give them points for Tour 2 equal to those of their lowest finish in another Tour (probably 4th place), so that they could get seeded properly among their true peers. But I'm sure many of you would object to this solution, so I'm suggesting the one above which is more in line with the rules as laid out at the start of the year. Dave Whitehead From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 1 17:39:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e61Gbj713327 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:37:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e61Gbie13322 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:37:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f255.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.133]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e61GbhY12965 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:37:44 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 72042 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 2000 16:37:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000701163733.72041.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.140.152.199 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 09:37:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.140.152.199] From: "ian bradshaw" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Leeds Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 17:37:33 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there anybody going to tour 4 who will be driving through the preston/manchester area who would be willing to give me a lift over to Leeds. I, of course, am willing to share petrol/beer money. 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Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 3 23:30:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e63MTT503064 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:29:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e63MTRe03059 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:29:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f19.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e63MTQY03944 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:29:26 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 90312 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2000 22:29:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20000703222917.90311.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.113.185.135 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:29:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.113.185.135] From: "Vanessa White" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Fwd: Ultimate player needs help!!! Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:29:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone help out? Thanks Vanessa. >From: TheJens@t-online.de (Achenbach, Jens) >To: nessa_white@hotmail.com >Subject: Ultimate player needs help!!! >Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:04:22 +0200 > >Hey Vanessa, > >my name is Jens, I am a player from Munich (Zamperl, Mir san Mir). I >need some help. A friend of mine is working in London (western parts, I >reckon). SHe has been living with a friend's parents. Apparently that >friend got kicked out and she has to move aswell. Pretty much by the end >of the week. Do you know somebody in London who could have her for some >2 weeks until she finds a place of her own. She is more that willing to >share the rent. She is great guy and real easy. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 4 10:02:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6491Ul05865 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:01:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6491Te05859 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:01:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from cs1-hq.oecd.org (cs1-hq.oecd.org [193.51.65.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6491SR15510 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:01:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from netsweep1.oecd.org (netsweep1.oecd.org [10.102.5.110]) by cs1-hq.oecd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/oecd-1.6) with ESMTP id KAA03658 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:57:51 +0200 From: Bart.EDES@oecd.org Received: from eosgty.oecd.org (unverified) by netsweep1.oecd.org (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:59:13 +0200 Received: by eosgty.oecd.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GG5V18A>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:01:39 +0200 Message-ID: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Superfly tournament? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 11:01:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e6491Te05860 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies for spamming from across the Channel. There are rumours of a Superfly-hosted tournament at end-August...any truth to this? Anyone know who to contact? Thanks in advance for some details, Bart Édes LES INVALIDES -->>the ULTIMATE team in Paris 22, rue Rambuteau, 75003 Paris, France tel: (33.1) 45.24.79.00 e-mail: bartapest@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/invalides_fr/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 4 10:48:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e649lRL14136 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:47:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e649lPe14128 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:47:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from web6204.mail.yahoo.com (web6204.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.115]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e649lPR20159 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:47:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000704094723.11267.qmail@web6204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [146.101.149.65] by web6204.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 10:47:23 BST Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:47:23 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mark=20Jefferson?= Subject: room wanted To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi guys Small request. If anyone has a room in North London needs filling anytime soon, could you get in touch please? Cheers. Mark BAF / Whiplash (deceased) 01908 666573 07712 531886 ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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I'm looking for people that have experience in the following: ASP/Cold fusion etc HTML integration XML/WML (wap) SQL 7 (ansii preferably) Graphic Design Secure Transaction Servers (eCommerce) Apologies if you're not involved in the biz...but this is designed to make ultimate related commerce a bit less of a hassle. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BFE65F.520C90A0 Content-Type: text/plain Are there any Colchester players on Britdisc? Doc Marfleet are you out there? 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Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 5 10:45:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e659iCk04440 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:44:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e659iAe04429 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:44:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (mail@ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e659huY07687 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:44:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from dns0.rmplc.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mail.rmplc.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 139lik-0003wB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:43:54 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20803 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:43:54 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3G7HPF4G>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:43:52 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F127032681D6@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: Britdisc Subject: RE: Tour 4 / Nationals Decisions Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:43:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk the U*c are talking this through as we speak - i think we've generated about 100 emails talking this through! we're pretty much decided, and i would expect we'll let everyone know by the end of the week. Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: James Hewitson [mailto:james.hewitson@Zurich.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 10:16 AM > To: Britdisc > Subject: Tour 4 / Nationals Decisions > > > BD, > > Did we ever get an official line on : > (a) Any changes to qualification for Nationals > (b) Whether the "7-on-the-line" rule will be implemented at > ALL future BUF > endorsed outdoor tournaments > > ??? > > Balti > BAF 34 > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. 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Wayne will update the Tour website, but is moving house and off-line at the moment. He'll get round to it when he has the chance. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 6 11:30:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e66ASl704975 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e66ASit04955 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e66ASiR19779 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from stu-1246201.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.138.202]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id LAA28637 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:38 +0100 (BST) From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: BritDisc Subject: Coach required Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:28:05 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, UWE are looking for a coach to train a teem that could do with some direction. As we are all students, an easy going person who coaches with a bias towards fun rather competitiveness would suit this position. If you take things too seriously this post is not for you, however if you think you can lead a teem from crap to good then apply! So please reply stating your rates of pay per training session, relevant experience and any other useful information. Bare in mind that as term does not start until the 27/09/2000 we won't be training until 08/2000. Yours sincerely, Stuart Waters. ps. psychopaths need not reply in fact please don't reply! ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 6 14:05:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e66D4Sc06387 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:04:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e66D4Qt06361 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:04:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsd01.community.net.uk (bsd01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e66D4CR05842 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from alpha01.community.net.uk (alpha01.community.net.uk [195.72.161.16]) by bsd01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA34543 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:04:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from server.oxtutor.co.uk (oxtutor.community.co.uk [195.72.164.109]) by alpha01.community.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13979 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:04:06 +0100 (BST) Received: by server.oxtutor.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BFE74B.5ED4C8B0@server.oxtutor.co.uk>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:09:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Hope To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Rimini Photos Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:09:07 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The best of the photos I took at this year's Paganello (World Beach Ultimate Championships) are now up on my web-site, thanks to Barry O'Kane. Teams featured include: Catch 22, Bliss, UTI, Mir san Mir...and more. Any assistance with naming players - and teams - is very welcome. Check out: www.endzone.co.uk/ultipics Cheers Jon Hope From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 6 17:01:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e66Fxuu13746 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:59:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e66Fxtt13740 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:59:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f88.hotmail.com [216.32.181.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e66FxsR26248 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:59:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 81619 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2000 15:59:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20000706155947.81618.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 141.245.40.230 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:59:47 PDT X-Originating-IP: [141.245.40.230] From: "Will Parker" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Bournemouth Ultimate Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 16:59:47 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, As of Tuesday July 18th there will be a new practice in Bournemouth/Poole with a view to possibly setting up a team. 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SuperFly hereby cordially invite you to "COPA CABANA", the third national Co-ed tour tournament of the 2000 Ultimate season, at the fantastic Highfields Hockey Club, NOTTINGHAM on 26th - 27th August 2000 (Bank Holiday Weekend) Facilities include Free On Site Camping Friday, Saturday and Sunday Free Breakfast on Saturday and Sunday Quality pitches Variety of cheap food (including BBQ) available on site all day (veggies catered for) Bar open Friday night, Saturday 12 - 11 (possible extension - we'll let you know), Sunday 12 - 10:30 Marquee and big tents to shelter from the hot sun - it will be sunny, ok. Entertainment Bounce Guts, Golf and hacky sack competitions Saturday early evening Saturday night party on site, with crazy DJ's Beer Races Obligatory Saturday Night All the usual SuperFly frolics Cost: 110 Pounds inclusive of BUF tax We're not looking to make a profit from this tournament, so any surplus will be refunded. 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Com" , "Paul Williamson" Subject: FW: Cellphone Tip Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:23:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bfe788$04057be0$b4809fd4@here> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >> >>> This does work. > >> >>> > >> >>> A little tip for all you mobile users out there ! > >> >>> > >> >>> FOR THOSE WITH MOBILES WHO DON'T KNOW THIS ALREADY. > > >> A little 'get your own back' if you have your mobile stolen that may be > of interest to those Mobile Users among you! > >> >>> > >> To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits > On your phone : * # 0 6 # (no spaces) > >> >>> > >> A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 09:17:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e678Gak12439 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:16:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e678GZt12434 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:16:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e678GYR12802 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:16:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA22748; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:16:33 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B58E@GB-CHW-MAIL2> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 4 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:16:17 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could the organiser of tour please confirm if the LSI (Imperial College people) are in tour 4 or not please? They have sent money but have not heard back or been able to contact you and no longer have access to email. Please let me know via email today or phone Chris Penfold on 01458 273464 ASAP. Some directions and stuff would be handy for them too (let me know if you need the address). Cheers Suzanne ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 10:09:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6799Kh21927 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:09:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6799It21920 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:09:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h011.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.111]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6799IR18228 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:09:18 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 25438 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 10:10:04 +0100 Date: 7 Jul 2000 10:10:04 +0100 Message-ID: <20000707091004.25437.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 7 Jul 2000 09:10:04 GMT Received: from [147.188.104.128] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 07 Jul 2000 10:10:04 BST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.6.3.1 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Practice in shrewsbury Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We (slipdisc and friends) are having a practice game in Shrewsbury on Sunday at 2pm. If anyone is close and fancies a game then come along, everyone is welcome. We are playing at The Quarry park (in the centre of Shresbury).....mail me for directions and a map. Bring your friends. Mal. SlipDisc. mta99@bigfoot.com 0121 458 1607 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 11:07:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67A6LK03535 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:06:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67A6Jt03529 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:06:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.fsbdial.co.uk (s25.athenenet.co.uk [195.89.137.31] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67A6JY20449 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:06:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.89.145.39] by mail.freenet.co.uk (NTMail 5.06.0013/NT0619.00.fa900c19) with ESMTP id ohnvpbaa for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:04:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bfe7fa$3a096e00$279159c3@skynet> From: "skynet" To: Subject: Oxford Rumour 2000 pickups Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:59:55 +0100 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFE802.7BF20360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFE802.7BF20360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All, Mythago (Bristol University) have got a basic team together for the = Oxford Tournament on 22-23rd July (i.e. two weeks time), but is looking = for some extra players, so can anyone vaguely interested in playing with = us call Cathy Atkinson on the number below... 01296 487262. 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Dear All,
 
Mythago (Bristol University) have got a = basic team=20 together for the Oxford Tournament on 22-23rd July (i.e. two weeks = time), but is=20 looking for some extra players, so can anyone vaguely interested in = playing with=20 us call Cathy Atkinson on the number below...
 
01296 487262.
 
Cheers,
 
Mythago.
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BFE802.7BF20360-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 11:55:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67AshS15852 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:54:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67Asft15837 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:54:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67AsfR05045 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:54:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from valehouse.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.250]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13AVmK-0007gp-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 11:54:40 +0100 Received: from VALEHOUSE/SpoolDir by valehouse.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.46); 7 Jul 00 11:54:40 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by VALEHOUSE (Mercury 1.46); 7 Jul 00 11:54:26 +0100 From: "Antony.Hutton" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:54:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Tour 4, team wanted X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, There are three or four Phat Ed's players looking to pick up with a team(s) for tour 4. All are of average standards but desperate to play. If there are any teams looking for additional players please get in touch with me at: mtp99wah@sheffield.ac.uk Cheers Tony From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 12:21:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67BL3Q21296 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67BL2t21291 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67BL1R08592 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08902 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from B14E-19.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14e-19.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.199]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e67BL0J10960 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:01 +0100 (BST) From: Kevin Reply-To: kpb298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: For the Mild Mannered Janitors In-Reply-To: <200007030647.HAA01577@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:01 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could you please withdraw the skunks entry to tour 4 as we will not have enough players to enter. Cheers Kevin (Skunks) ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 13:32:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67CVvf05060 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:31:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67CVtt05041 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:31:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from ans2-pub.dttus.com (ans2-pub.dttus.com [204.151.11.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e67CVsY03060 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 13:31:55 +0100 (BST) Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com id HAA11073 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:31:53 -0500 Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com (Internal Mail Agent-3); Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:31:53 -0500 X400-Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com (Internal Mail Agent-2); Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:31:53 -0500 X400-Received: by ans2-pub.dttus.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:31:53 -0500 X400-Mts-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=TeleMail/prmd=Deloitte/; 03A223965CD3E233-MTAUSBNA1DT] Content-Identifier: 03A223965CD3E233 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: hmyers@dttus.com X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <03A223965CD3E233*/c=US/admd=TeleMail/prmd=Deloitte/o=ccMailGW/s=hmyers/@MHS> Date: 07 Jul 2000 07:29:50 -0500 From: Helen Myers To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hello ... Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm sure that many of you may remember me ... and I'm coming back home for a visit next week ... I'm hoping to pick up with BAF at Tour IV - in Leeds? ... I look forward to seeing you all there ... Love'n'layouts Hugs'n'hucks Helen Myers formerly Twin Peaks now Hucksters From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 14:54:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67Drnx21112 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:53:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67Drlt21107 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:53:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk (mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67DrlY10425 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:53:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13AYd4-0006wE-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:57:18 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:59:29 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EADB8@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Tour 4 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:55:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those coming to Tour 4. A full list of the teams that have entered the tournament will be posted next week. There will also be packs with directions etc. sent out to each team. Arun (Tournament Director) has been away all this week which is why (for those that were wondering) you haven't heard anything. He won't be contactable until Sunday, so don't bother trying to phone him. Headrush and LSI - as you've asked - you are definitely entered. Skunks - sorry you can't make it, your withdrawal is acknowledged and we'll refund you as soon as we can. I don't know about anyone else - wait until next week. Thanks. Ben Mitchell Chevron Action Flash on the behalf of Mild Mannered Janitors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 16:43:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67FgLN13862 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67FgJt13857 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from netmail.co.uk (netmail.netmail.co.uk [194.205.11.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e67FgGR08586 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from PROXY2 (PROXY2 [194.205.11.21]) by netmail.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.afxy) with ESMTP id da501647 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:39:23 +0100 Received: from ben [218.99.151.24] by vac.uk.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 16:28:54 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFE830.750CA360.ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com> From: Ben Rolfe To: "'b.mitchell@lmu.ac.uk'" , "'kpb298@soton.ac.uk'" , "'MTP99WAH@sheffield.ac.uk'" Cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Phat 'eds, Skunks, Tour4 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:28:59 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Ben, Antony (average players?) and Kevin (average team?), Please read on... (service FOC, this time. But if there's something I've missed, well it wouldn't be the first time : ) luv (mental) ben Message: 7 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:54:20 +0100 From: "Antony.Hutton" Subject: Tour 4, team wanted Hi, There are three or four Phat Ed's players looking to pick up with a team(s) for tour 4. All are of average standards but desperate to play. If there are any teams looking for additional players please get in touch with me at: mtp99wah@sheffield.ac.uk Cheers Tony Message: 8 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:21:01 +0100 (BST) From: Kevin < > Subject: For the Mild Mannered Janitors Could you please withdraw the skunks entry to tour 4 as we will not have enough players to enter. Cheers Kevin (Skunks) ---------------------- Kevin Blanch kpb298@soton.ac.uk Skunks - sorry you can't make it, your withdrawal is acknowledged and we'll refund you as soon as we can. I don't know about anyone else - wait until next week. Thanks. Ben Mitchell Chevron Action Flash on the behalf of Mild Mannered Janitors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 16:46:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67FkUa14679 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:46:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67FkTt14674 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:46:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e67FkSR09111 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:46:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from cs21023.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.122.33] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13AaJS-0005WD-00; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:45:10 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:46:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk (Natalie visser) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: lift to GB practice X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: hdue1@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I am desperately looking for someone that could give me a lift from anywhere in South London to Milton Keynes tomorrow morning for GB practice. If you can help in anyway, please contact me either by replying to this email or give me a ring. (01273-570342). Thanks. Natalie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 7 21:44:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67Kh1N26522 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:43:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67Kgxt26516 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:43:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from rmx470-mta.mail.com (rmx470-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.48]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67KgsR27089 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:42:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from web142-mc.mail.com (web142-mc.mail.com [165.251.48.167]) by rmx470-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09494 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <384408350.963002571942.JavaMail.root@web142-mc.mail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:42:51 -0400 (EDT) From: clint eastwood To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: get 'em up and move 'em out Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 193.113.57.167 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hotdamn! ol' Bull Lee from the pony express just told me about some sort of a hoedown going on in glastonbury. you have to take what these cowboys tell you with a pinch of gunpowder though - he'd had a few sarspirellas. he said that sometime in september there's going to be circling of the wagons and all the loosest cannons and quickest drawers are meeting up to play some frisbee. he started getting a bit delirious after that - kept going on about whiskey bars and fireworks.... any of you kids know what he was talking about - this sounds like the sort of thing i shouldn't miss. clint ps. the last thing he said before he passed out in the horse trough was "bearshit stinks" - is this relevant? ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 8 00:26:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e67NPTL22534 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:25:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e67NPRt22526 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:25:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e67NPQY18163 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:25:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.24.12] (root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13AhTc-00002n-00; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:24:08 +0100 Received: from benjamcr by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13AhV8-0007QY-00; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:25:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:25:42 +0100 (BST) From: Benjamin Crick To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pick Up's for Tour 4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Bridisc and sorry for those it does not concern There are two Mohawk players (one Ben AKA "Stroke" and one female AKA "Sheep") interested in picking up for tour 4. Both are very keen to play and would appreciate any playing time. If any teams want extra players please contact. Ben Crick Tel - 01635 253134 Mob - 07867785411 email - bencrick@bcrick.freeserve.co.uk - benjamcr@central.susx.ac.uk Thanks Ben AKA "Stroke" the captain P.S. Are there any details about directions to the pitches yet? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 8 16:25:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e68FNQ903867 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:23:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e68FNPt03862 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:23:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from dcsun2.comp.brad.ac.uk (root@dcsun2.comp.brad.ac.uk [143.53.28.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e68FNOY17621 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:23:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from osprey.cen.brad.ac.uk (bmwhenlo@osprey.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.18]) by dcsun2.comp.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21297 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:22:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (bmwhenlo@localhost) by osprey.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA18580 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:23:18 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:23:17 +0100 (BST) From: BM Whenlock X-Sender: bmwhenlo@osprey.cen.brad.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Frisbee Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi I am looking for a Frisbee for the Blind It needs to make a noise (air vents etc) Tell me how far off the ground it is e.g. An EDM that is upside down Two different noises but light enough to play with I would design one but I don't know how to go about it or have the electronics background for it All the best Ben P.S. I am looking for a video to show my parents does anybody know where I can get one From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jul 8 17:30:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e68GT4N13854 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e68GT3t13847 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e68GT2R12159 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13AxTS-0003jv-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:02 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13AxTV-0005zG-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:05 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:01 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654AFC2@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Pickups for leeds? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:29:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello. We (LSI) a new team, are looking for some pickups for next weekends tour. anyone is welcome to play with us, and the more the merrier! gimme a mail back, or call me on 01273 881337. laters loz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 9 10:43:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e699gf109399 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e699get09390 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e699gdR17609 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-40-143.host.btclick.com ([213.120.40.143]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000709094325.WIWJ10874.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host213-120-40-143.host.btclick.com> for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:43:25 +0100 Received: by host213-120-40-143.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFE992.49049F80@host213-120-40-143.host.btclick.com>; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:41:48 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFE992.49049F80@host213-120-40-143.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Pick-ups Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:54:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e699get09395 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All those looking for pickups; Since there is a skunks team that hasn't got enough players, 2 mohawks, 4 phat eds, and no doubt some others looking for teams - have you thought of talking to each other? Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 9 11:31:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e69AUsk12802 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:30:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e69AUrt12796 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:30:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f54.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.54]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e69AUqY20703 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:30:53 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22363 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2000 10:30:41 -0000 Message-ID: <20000709103041.22362.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.198.72 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:30:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.198.72] From: "Lewis Glover" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lifts for exeter juniors to leeds Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 10:30:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Two GB Juniors who live in Exeter are looking for lifts to Leeds (Tour 4). They can get to Bristol if anyone is going from there, or maybe your travelling from Plymouth? Hopefully someone will help these guys out, there is only a month to the worlds and the more the juniors play ultimate with each other the better they'll do. Any takers? Lewis loopy1019@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 07:48:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6A6l4F00595 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6A6l3t00590 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6A6l3Y25873 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA23224 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200007100647.HAA23224@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Monday 10th July 2000 WFDF World Masters Overall Championships (6 days) {overall} @ Rochester, New York, USA [Abroad] URL: http://www.dtworld.com/ Accuracy, Disc Golf, Discathon, Distance, DDC, Freestyle & SCF for the over 35's! Saturday 15th July 2000 German Open [Eurotour] (2 days) @ Berlin, Germany [Golf] Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 TOUR IV (2 days) @ Birmingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Layout Dreams / Slipdisc Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 12th August 2000 The Dales Ultimate Tournament 2000 (2 days) @ Ilkley, Yorkshire [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/daleszebedees/ Numbers are limited. To get your yourself there, send a cheque for £50 to the listed address. All profits go to charity. Contact Tim Andrews (Zebedees) Address Flat 3 50 Temple Road Sale Manchester M2 3DL Email daleszebedees@hotmail.com Phone 07771 734559 Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 10:19:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6A9ID522767 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:18:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6A9ICt22759 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:18:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6A9IAR29148 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:18:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13BZhw-0000cV-00; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:18:32 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:17:27 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'oxfordultimate@hotmail.com'" Subject: Rumour - too many players Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:17:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e6A9ICt22761 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Demi - Gods Seriously for a moment.... Due to the Ultimate calendar this year, players want to come and play in the Cotswold, as well as teams - therefore we have extended the intake for Rumour to include TWO hat teams. - Player cost of £20 each. We need you commitment and player level (1-10): 1 - Learning to love the game 5 - mmm - nice arse! 9 - oh why is this not a professional sport? 10 - Walking with the Gods..... ALL CHEQUES - BOTH HAT AND TEAM - to be in Lucy Moores hands by Sunday (LATEST): 4 Lyneham Close Witney OX8 5BS £75 (team) £20 (hat) paid to Oxford Ultimate Other stuff: Footbag - Net - Final to played Saturday evening - Adam Harras and Ickle Copeland where largin it up at the weekend - Can somebody shut them up - they ain't that good!!!??? I have forgotten to tell you that there will of course be a Tequila race (I have never been beaten) - so you show-boatin, disc loves, who think you know a thing or two about winning in style....... Love Your Tequila The Milk Man Breath it in Oxford Ultimate - SHARKies From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 12:43:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6ABeB522986 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:40:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ABe7t22962 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:40:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ABe6R16854 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:40:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com ([213.120.46.129]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000710113842.JQSG19463.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:38:42 +0100 Received: by host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFEA6B.DAC05020@host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:39:14 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFEA6B.DAC05020@host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Si Hill'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" , "'u8c'" , "'BUF'" Subject: Catch and Nationals Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:22:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e6ABe8t22969 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Si (and everyone else who gets this - some of you probably twice) After a long considered discussion within the u8c, the following was proposed to the BUF, and accepted by the executive committee. It was made clear by the results of Catch at the tour events, and by the level of feeling within the committees, and on britdisc, that it was unreasonable to penalise Catch 22 for the principled stand that they made at T2. The majority of people felt that Catch should be provided the chance to enter Nationals at a level that befitted them. However, it was also felt that any alteration to the situation for Nationals which would penalise any other team from being given the chance to perform at the level which they deserved would also be unreasonable. Therefore the following compromise has been proposed; That for Nationals qualification only, Catch 22 are awarded a fourth result equal to the average points from the other three tour results that Catch achieve. There are advantages, and disadvantages to this system, however it was felt to be the simplest, and most effective method. Assuming a usual performance from Catch at T4 in Leeds, this will place Catch somewhere in the top four seeding positions. Also, so that the team that finishes 8th in the tour is not penalised by being relegated to 9th seeds at Nationals, and down to division 2, Nationals will now include a 5th - 12th knockout (as per the tour events) allowing the team that has been demoted a chance to achieve 5th place - a reasonable target for them to aim for. The 13th to 16th teams at nationals will play a 4 team pool on Sunday. Thus qualification for Nationals remains the same - all team must finish in the top 16 of the tour to qualify (although unrostered teams need to check the tour rules on unrostered teams qualifying), since Catch, placed 11th are already into Nationals. All teams finishing below Catch in the tour will be seeded as they finish, and all teams finishing above Catch in the tour may be moved down a position to accommodate Catch after addition of the fourth set of points. Teams seeded below 8th will not be able to win Nationals, and teams seeded above 9th will not be able to finish below 12th. This decision will be implemented irrelevant of whether Catch 22 manage to qualify in the top 8 for Nationals in their own right after the T4 results. Similarly any added points will not contribute to the final placing of Catch 22 in the tour. Hope this solution is to everyone's satisfaction. Chris Hughes DoC PS - although Si already knows this: someone asked "Is Wayne the rest of the co?" No - the u8c consists of Andy Cotgrieve (playing for Chevron), Dora Kemp (Strange Blue), Wayne Retter (Druids), and Andy 'Norm' Tucker (UTI). The BUF executive committee who accepted the proposal was Laura Pearce (Director), Ben Ravillious (Secretary), Ian Stebbing (treasurer). From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 12:43:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6ABeJf23032 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:40:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ABeEt23007 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:40:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ABeDY28741 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:40:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com ([213.120.46.129]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000710113928.LFWQ20946.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com> for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:39:28 +0100 Received: by host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFEA6B.E19805A0@host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <01BFEA6B.E19805A0@host213-120-46-129.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour Trophies Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:34:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can the relevant teams ensure that who ever has the following trophies please bring them to T4. Tour winners (UTI) Tour Plate (Phat Ed's) Tour Spirit (Sneeekys - although we are not sure of that one! - looks like a wooden disc on two metal poles on a base) Chris Hughes DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 12:49:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6ABlJG25055 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:47:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ABlFt25029 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:47:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (relay2.mail.uk.psi.net [154.32.107.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ABlEY29916 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:47:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.82.136.110] (helo=Farid) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13Bc1p-0007SR-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:47:13 +0100 From: "Colin Smith" To: "Britdisc" Subject: James from Mohawks Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:50:25 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry everyone, but could James from Mohawks drop me a line. Cheers Colin Hammerage (Prev. K-niggets) Colin Smith Account Executive E-Commerce colin@08004homes.com www.08004homes.com Tel: 020 7864 2807 Mobile: 07719 100790 Fax: 020 7864 2809 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 15:26:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6AEPwe01403 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:25:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6AEPvt01395 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:25:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6AEPuY19378 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:25:57 +0100 (BST) Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3N048LYL>; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:23:37 +0100 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Tour 4 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:23:33 +0100 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please find below team list for T4. MMJ More MMJ Even More MMJ UTI Catch 22 Chevron Action Flash Doughboy BAF BAF (co-ed) Sharks Red Imperial - please supply postal address Mud Culture Druids Hammerage Yorkie Bar Kids Swamp Donkeys Slipdisc Jedi Children Bears Fusion Superfly GB Women GB Juniors DSM Angels Fever Ro-Sham-Bo Strange Blue Skunks - need to know if your coming or not. Headrush - no cheque received Please note that if the above teams don't let me know what their doing or send payment they will forfeit their place if another team sends a cheque. Don't ring me and tell me the cheque's in the post - just post it. Directions. m1 north - m621 Leeds City Centre - hen follow signs for A61 Harrogate. Continue along this road until you pass a shell petrol station on the left and the Lord Darcy Pub on the right, you are 1/2 mile away. You then come to a set of lights go straight through and turn right at the next r/about - LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 10 22:49:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6ALmC713676 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:48:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6ALmAt13662 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:48:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f133.hotmail.com [209.185.131.196]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6ALm9Y23495 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:48:09 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 32288 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2000 21:47:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20000710214758.32287.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 193.113.57.167 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:47:58 PDT X-Originating-IP: [193.113.57.167] From: "leigh simmons" To: bite.me@popstar.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: substance-abuse@egroups.com Subject: Re: get 'em up and move 'em out Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:47:58 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk clint (and any other interested parties), word sure gets round quick..... sounds to me as though your man in the horsetrough knew what he was talking about. lets just run through the details, eh. september 9/10 Glastonbury 2000: THE GUNSLINGER on fields of green lushness, 16 teams of the most beautiful and dangerous people in the country (and possibly the world) will assemble to play frisbee, and enjoy all the shenanigans laid on by some cowboys calling themselves substance abuse. features include: on site saloon, party, camping, pitches, whiskey bar, nosh, explosives, expletives and excesses. in the interests of nice surprises and not getting busted you will just have to round up a posse and follow the setting sun (or the A303) to discover the full extent of our ample attractions. Cheques (80 GBP/team) should be sent to Todd Kleckner Top Floor 4 Crown Circus Dowanhill Glasgow G12 9HB and enquiries should be directed to substance-abuse@egroups.com eilers >hotdamn! ol' Bull Lee from the pony express just told me about some sort of >a hoedown going on in glastonbury. > >you have to take what these cowboys tell you with a pinch of gunpowder >though - he'd had a few sarspirellas. he said that sometime in september >there's going to be circling of the wagons and all the loosest cannons and >quickest drawers are meeting up to play some frisbee. he started getting a >bit delirious after that - kept going on about whiskey bars and >fireworks.... any of you kids know what he was talking about - this sounds >like the sort of thing i shouldn't miss. > >clint > >ps. the last thing he said before he passed out in the horse trough was >"bearshit stinks" - is this relevant? > > >______________________________________________ >FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com >Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 13:17:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6BCG7m08627 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:16:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BCG5t08618 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:16:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk (mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BCG5Y04581 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:16:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.52.10] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by mrelay-a.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13Bz0f-0001J3-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:19:33 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC0EADC4@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Tour 4 Accommodation. Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:17:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There have been quite a few enquiries made about accommodation for this weekend. The main answer to your questions is: ask your team contact. They have been sent packs with information of this kind. However, I can tell you that THERE IS NO CAMPING AVAILABLE ON SITE at the tournament. A small number of teams are being given floorspace at houses in Leeds. The rest of you will have to find B&Bs or camp sites. Again, I believe this information is in the packs. I have, however, provided details of just a few potential places for accommodation (including a campsite) at the end of this message. Alternatively, you could phone Gateway Yorkshire, The Regional Travel and Tourism Centre on: 0113 242 5242 Finally, Arun will not be available by email for the rest of this week, so he has asked me to ask you not to send him any more queries about the tournament. You can still phone him in the evenings on 0113 2749097. See you at the weekend. Ben Mitchell Aintree Hotel 38 Cardigan Road Headingley Leeds LS6 3AG 0113 275 8290 2 Ash View Headingley Leeds LS6 3JH 0113 275 0703 Boundary Hotel 42 Cardigan Road Headingley Leeds LS6 3AG 0113 275 7700/275 1523 Broomhurst Hotel 12 Chapel Lane Headingley Leeds LS6 3BW 0113 278 6836 Cardigan Hotel 36 Cardigan Road Headingley Leeds LS6 3AG 0113 278 4301 Roundhay Park Caravan & Camping Site Elmete Lane Leeds, Yorkshire, LS28 2LG Tel.0113 2652354 Fax.0113 2370077 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 13:31:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6BCUlh11364 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:30:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BCUit11355 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:30:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f215.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.215]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6BCUgR06011 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 13:30:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 32893 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jul 2000 12:30:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20000711123031.32892.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 129.11.159.106 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 05:30:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.159.106] From: "Chris Akin" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour 4 Accommodation. Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:30:31 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those coming to Tour 4- I can probably house a team for the weekend, but they need to have a their own way to get to the pitches. I don't have a car, so I'll probably bag a ride with you. If your interested, email me and let me know how many people you'll have. We'll work it out from there. I might even be able to convince a few other Jedi to open their places if there's a big need. -Chris Jedi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 15:17:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6BEGeb03339 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:16:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BEGat03314 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:16:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchange.Exchange ([193.123.31.169]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BEGZR13814 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:16:35 +0100 (BST) Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3KNG9TRX>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:15:59 +0100 Message-ID: From: Mike Beaton To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Catch and Nationals Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:15:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Also, so that the team that finishes 8th in the tour is not > penalised by being relegated to 9th seeds at Nationals, and > down to division 2, Nationals will now include a 5th - 12th > knockout (as per the tour events) allowing the team that has > been demoted a chance to achieve 5th place - a reasonable > target for them to aim for. The 13th to 16th teams at > nationals will play a 4 team pool on Sunday. I'm sure any teams hovering anywhere in the 9-16 pool will welcome this. We do. Mike (Sharks). From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 16:42:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6BFfhA23123 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:41:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BFfdt23098 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:41:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from atrios.cheapnet.co.uk (atrios.cheapnet.co.uk [194.164.6.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BFfbY14254 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:41:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from server.PROTOCOL (protocolit.co.uk [194.164.92.66]) by atrios.cheapnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30921 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:37:27 +0100 (BST) Received: by SERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3236JHZY>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:34:19 +0100 Message-ID: From: Low To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Any rooms going in North London? Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:34:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies in advance for using this e group as a letting agent MY tenancy in N1 London runs out at the end of July So I'm looking for a room in in a house in the same (ish) sort of area. but I'll consider anything if its not to far off the city (Liverpool St end). Anyone know anyone whose looking to fill a room soonish? -100 a weekish? Give us a bell if you do. Ta Low Jonathan Lowrey (Albatross) Tel 020 7422 0622 Mob 07787 116 546 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 16:43:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6BFhAJ23431 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:43:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BFh9t23419 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:43:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BFgvR25642 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:42:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13C2Br-0007t7-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:43:19 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:42:11 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Rumour 2000 - sleeping Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:42:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Demi-Gods If you want to sleep!??!? - there will be camping at Rumour 2000 (with great views of the Country Side). More details and directions will be posted next week. See you in Leeds The Milk Man Oxford Ultimate - SHARKies From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 11 17:21:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6BGLIU01340 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:21:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6BGLGt01322 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:21:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from web119.yahoomail.com (web119.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.120]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6BGLFR01694 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:21:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4690 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jul 2000 16:21:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20000711162113.4689.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Received: from [195.152.33.21] by web119.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:21:13 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:21:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Grey Reply-To: robin.grey@bigfoot.com Subject: lift from london to leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk can anyone help me with a lift from london to leeds this friday pm or saturday am? petrol money and free conversation............ robin :-) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 11:02:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CA1AM27654 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CA18t27649 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CA12R07604 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13CJK9-0004C8-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:01 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13CJKD-0001BO-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:05 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:00 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654AFC9@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: how 2 get 2 tour 4? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:01:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, So far my team has not received an information pack on how to get to tour4 in leeds, we've tried to contact the organisers but with no luck. If you are an organiser please send us a pack asap, to: lewis rees 67 wilbury crescent hove east sussex BN3 6FH tel: 01273 881337 otherwise if anyone out there has the details could you please email them to me Thanks Loz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 11:04:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CA4Ns28331 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CA4Mt28325 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CA4LR08105 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13CJNN-0004I9-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:21 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13CJNM-0001Ii-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:20 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:15 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654AFCA@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: anyone in jedi Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:04:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get in contact with Gary or Paul form jedi. I don't know their surnames but they both went to the Exeter hat, I'm quite desperate to get in contact with one of them Tel:01273 881337 Cheers Lewis From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 11:28:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CARor03419 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:27:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CARlt03400 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:27:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from rw-gw-01.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CARjR11650 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:27:46 +0100 (BST) Received: by rw-gw-01.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3V1G3RT3>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 03:27:37 -0700 Message-ID: <61C392E65B04D411897400062938B3E8282773@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: how 2 get 2 tour 4? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 03:27:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > So far my team has not received an information pack on how to get to tour4 Nor have we (Druids). Is there any info online anywhere? -- Neil Travers neil.travers@broadvision.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 11:51:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CAoWD07925 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:50:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CAoUt07914 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:50:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall2.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.83]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CAoTY04906 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:50:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id GAA25914; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lonmailhost.lehman.com by relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id GAA29588; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exlon05.lehman.com by lonmailhost.lehman.com (8.8.8+Sun/Lehman Bros. V1.5) id LAA04560; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:49:37 +0100 (BST) Received: by exlon05.lehman.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <33MQJWH8>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:49:36 +0100 Message-ID: <219065FBE138D211A37400805FB7578A0419FE3B@exlon05.lehman.com> From: "Flores, Aram" To: "'Travers, Neil'" , "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: how 2 get 2 tour 4? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:49:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This was at the end of the team list posted on Monday: Directions. m1 north - m621 Leeds City Centre - hen follow signs for A61 Harrogate. Continue along this road until you pass a shell petrol station on the left and the Lord Darcy Pub on the right, you are 1/2 mile away. You then come to a set of lights go straight through and turn right at the next r/about - LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL. > -----Original Message----- > From: Travers, Neil [SMTP:Neil.Travers@BroadVision.com] > Sent: 12 July 2000 11:28 > To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: RE: how 2 get 2 tour 4? > > > So far my team has not received an information pack on how to get to > tour4 > > Nor have we (Druids). Is there any info online anywhere? > > > -- > Neil Travers neil.travers@broadvision.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 11:56:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CAtR208809 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:55:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CAtPt08794 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:55:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk [192.147.228.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6CAtNY05648 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:55:23 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk id AA13731 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk); Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:39:10 +0100 Received: by gatekeeper.eaglestar.co.uk (Internal Mail Agent-1); Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:39:10 +0100 Message-Id: <002801bfebef$80f82380$be17010a@w046901.uk.zurich.com> From: "James Hewitson" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Fw: Tour 4 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:54:07 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Arun Sharma To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' Date: 10 July 2000 15:48 Subject: Tour 4 > >Directions. > >m1 north - m621 Leeds City Centre - hen follow signs for A61 Harrogate. >Continue along this road until you pass a shell petrol station on the left >and the Lord Darcy Pub on the right, you are 1/2 mile away. You then come >to a set of lights go straight through and turn right at the next /about - >LEEDS GRAMMAR SCHOOL. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 12:07:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CB6gT12578 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:06:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CB6et12572 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:06:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from rw-gw-01.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CB6eY07634 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:06:40 +0100 (BST) Received: by rw-gw-01.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3V1G3RV5>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:06:29 -0700 Message-ID: <61C392E65B04D411897400062938B3E8282776@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: how 2 get 2 tour 4? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:06:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > This was at the end of the team list posted on Monday: Yep, found that, but thanks anyway. Also Lewis found the address and I've put that into mapblast in case it helps: -------------------------------------------- leeds grammar school alwoodly gates harrogate rd leeds ls17 8gs And a map URL (yes it's huge and may cause problems if it gets mangled by any of the email systems, alternatively go to mapblast and type in the postcode). http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/map.mb?CMD=GEO&CT=&IC=&GMI=&GAD1=&GAD2=&GAD3 =&GAD4=&AD2=&noPrefs=&req_action=crmap&skip=&serch=&PHONE=&noBRP=&remLoc=&AD 4=GBR&AD2_street=&AD3=ls17+8gs&apmenu=&apcode=&selCategory= You'll probably have to pan around and zoom out a bit to make sense of it. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 12:38:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CBb7n19352 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:37:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CBb5Z19347 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:37:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from fizzle.bomb.co.uk (root@fizzle.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CBb3e23817 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:37:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from pacino (ip190.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.190]) by fizzle.bomb.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e6CBb1O18941 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:37:01 +0100 Message-Id: <200007121137.e6CBb1O18941@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:37:27 +0100 To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: RE: how 2 get 2 tour 4? In-Reply-To: <61C392E65B04D411897400062938B3E8282776@uk-msg-01.broadvisi on.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Slightly larger, more detailed map (and easier URL): http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=431271&Y=440951&A=Y&Z=4 Again, you can zoom in and out, Barry At 04:06 AM 7/12/00 -0700, Travers, Neil wrote: >> This was at the end of the team list posted on Monday: > >Yep, found that, but thanks anyway. > >Also Lewis found the address and I've put that into mapblast in case it >helps: > >-------------------------------------------- > >leeds grammar school >alwoodly gates >harrogate rd >leeds >ls17 8gs > > >And a map URL (yes it's huge and may cause problems if it gets mangled by >any of the email systems, alternatively go to mapblast and type in the >postcode). > >http://www.mapblast.com/myblast/map.mb?CMD=GEOCT=&IC=&GMI=&GAD1=&GAD2=&GAD3 >=&GAD4=&AD2=&noPrefs=&req_action=crmap&skip=&serch=&PHONE=&noBRP=&remLoc=&AD >4=GBR&AD2_street=&AD3=ls17+8gs&apmenu=&apcode=&selCategory= > >You'll probably have to pan around and zoom out a bit to make sense of it. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 15:53:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CEq2J29447 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:52:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CEq0Z29419 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:52:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f15.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CEpxe23564 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:51:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 07:51:50 -0700 Received: from 62.6.253.35 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.6.253.35] From: "Ben Silk" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour4 team list Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:51:50 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jul 2000 14:51:50.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[B625DDB0:01BFEC10] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tour 4 Organisers, Can somebody (anybody) e-mail an amended list of entrants for tour 4. We (Point Blank) were not on the first list, but were told that it was a mistake and we are entered as we thought, so can we have the final list with us in, on britdisc please. Cheers BenS PB ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 16:05:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CF4uM02443 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:04:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CF4tZ02437 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:04:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (mail@ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CF4sD02553 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:04:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from dns0.rmplc.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mail.rmplc.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13CO4D-0008Dc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:04:53 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29496 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:04:53 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3G7HPQ45>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:04:51 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270326826E@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:04:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I asked last week about contact details for Rob Owen, from DSM. I haven't been able to get in touch with him - does anyone know where he is? I urgently need to speak to him before Tour IV. Thanks, Andy ========== RM plc acotgreave@rm.com tel: 01235 823254 STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 16:25:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CFOAG06318 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:24:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CFO9Z06310 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:24:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CFO5e28531 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:24:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from homer.atm.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:root@homer.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.25]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e6CFO0C21592 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:24:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by homer.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA23499 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:24:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: homer.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:23:59 +0100 (BST) From: Ben Booth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Chipping Norton tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm hoping to take a beginers team to the chipin' norton tounament on the 22nd. Initially the idea was to take a Hereford based team, well just for the novelty really - but seeing as I've now moved to oxford and there are only 5 keen folk who've put their names forward - I thought I'd ask if there where any ultimate players out there who'd want to join us. I wouldn't say that at the moment we'd be fancied for the title, we're going into it more for the experience and to enjoy it. Let me know if you'd be interested in the near future as they would need to know if the team is to be entered fairly soon Cheers for now Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 18:35:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CHYGR03084 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:34:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CHYFZ03073 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f19.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6CHYED15481 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:34:14 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 44599 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jul 2000 17:34:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20000712173406.44598.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 129.11.119.146 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:34:06 PDT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.119.146] From: "Matthew Hims" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: lost boots at GB Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:34:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone at the GB session in Milton Keynes this weekend, pick up a pair of Nike boots (sharks) in an Orange Eastbourne boot bag. Cheers Bob ......on behalf of Beege (a GB master, struggling to keep up with today's technology) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 19:52:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CIpMm17354 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:51:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CIpKZ17349 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:51:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from flaunden.mail.easynet.net (flaunden.mail.easynet.net [195.40.0.161]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CIpKe28659 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:51:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by flaunden.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3141A4D4A for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:51:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from charlesm (charles.mead.easynet.co.uk [195.40.244.78]) by latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A58B53721 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:51:16 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Charlie Mead" From: "Charlie Mead" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Leeds Tour IV Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:39:22 +0100 Message-ID: <01bfec30$7f1dada0$4ef428c3@charlesm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01BFEC38.E0E215A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BFEC38.E0E215A0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0056_01BFEC38.E0E215A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0056_01BFEC38.E0E215A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone give me a contact for Leeds this wekend? 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------=_NextPart_000_0055_01BFEC38.E0E215A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 20:02:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CJ1cn18888 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:01:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CJ1bZ18883 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:01:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CJ1QD22510 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:01:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from vaio ([139.92.194.73]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000071219004122900avgnae>; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:00:42 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Toby Green" To: , Subject: Alison Green Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:58:28 +0200 Message-ID: <000101bfec33$4f03ce80$49c25c8b@vaio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Alison Green, enchanting wife of Doctor Toby Green, loving mother to James, William, Toby and Tom and their wives, and Granny to Patrick, Edward, Jemima, Angus and Alex, flew to heaven this morning. Cremation Wednesday 19th July - family only. Thanksgiving service on July 26th at St Mary's Beaminster at 3pm. All very much welcome. Don't dress in black, no flowers. Donations to Children's Asthma Foundation. This will, no doubt, come as a great shock to you, but my mother had been fighting cancer for the past four and a half years. Not being one to fuss, she did not want anyone to know, and until very recently carried on life as normal. About a month ago the cancer escaped from its pharmaceutical 'cage' and she decided not to carry on with more treatment since it would not have enabled her to continue farming and would have just meant prolonging the inevitable. She passed away peacefully with my father at her side. She left a bunch of wishes, one of which is that disc golf is to continue at Whitcombe and that this year's Open proceed as planned. She was delighted when I asked her if I could extend the course this year - she was a real fan. She loved sharing the farm with those who appreciate its beauty and who enjoy its use - that means you all both ultimate and golf players. (She even said that if she died just before/during the golf she was to be put on ice until it had finished! - and she meant it too!). So no backsliding - this year's tournament will also be a wake and you are all invited! I am at Whitcombe and have managed to plant the first four of the new baskets and levelled the horrid tee up Bowlings Hill (the old location). So there's another 32 to go. If anyone can offer help this weekend as well as next week, you'd be most welcome! I'm not sure where I'll be staying, since I need to keep an eye on my father. But I can certainly offer 3 beds in the Summer House this weekend as a minimum. If you think you can spare the time to help out, either call (01308 862366 or 863566) or email me at my new address: tobygreen@attglobal.net. Whitcombe won't be the same without her. But she'll be watching over us to make sure we keep it beautiful and faithful to what she created here. And the golf's very much part of that. I look forward to seeing you all on the 22/23rd. Toby From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 12 23:30:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6CMTM020626 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:29:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6CMTKZ20619 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:29:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.world-callnet.com (mail.world-callnet.com [212.67.129.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6CMTJD03673 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:29:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com (callnet0800.com[212.67.128.145])by WHISKEY(MailMax 2.040) with ESMTP id 0 for buf@ultimateweb.co.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:29:25 +0100 GDT Received: from ben [212.67.151.120] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A13212A0192; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:29:06 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01bfec50$bbc74200$789743d4@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: FAO Chevron, Mud Culture, Albatross, Super/Haze Fly & Skunks 2 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:27:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I would be extremely grateful if the following teams could input their Tour rosters onto the BUF website at http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ (Go to you team's contact details and hit the roster button at the bottom) Chevron Mud Culture Albatross Super/Haze Fly Skunks 2 (use the main Skunks roster) Any new teams at Tour 4. I appreciate that some of these teams aren't official 'rostered teams' but I need the data for costing the British Ultimate Association proposal. If you don't have full address details for your players (why not!?) I don't mind if you wing it with dummy data in the address fields. It would be helpful if other teams made any necessary additions/updates to their rosters also. Thanks for helping out. Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 13 11:19:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6DAI4t18300 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:18:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DAI3Z18291 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:18:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DAI2e03144 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:18:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13Cg45-0001AS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:17:57 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13Cg4B-0005Ib-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:18:03 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:17:56 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654AFD5@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: anyone want to pickup Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:17:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, If anybody, and I mean anybody, needs a team to pickup for at tour4, then we're your team. I've just lost 3 players and I really don't want to have to Ironman the weekend, If your interested call me or reply to this email tel: 01273 881337 cheers Lewis From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 13 12:39:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6DBc1H05092 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:38:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DBc0Z05085 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:38:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.93]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DBbue15428 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:38:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13ChJQ-0002Nm-0Z for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:37:52 +0100 Received: from (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [193.195.0.131] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 13ChJP-000D4u-00; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:37:52 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:37:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Britdisc' (E-mail)" Subject: Contact for Sue Underwood Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:37:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a daytime number for Sue Underwood or Ivan Bromage? Thanks Max max@student-reservations.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 13 12:53:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6DBr2H07670 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:53:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DBr0Z07657 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:53:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DBr0e17552 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:53:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13ChXz-0003F8-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:52:55 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13ChY5-0007kD-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:53:01 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654AFDD@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: no more pickups thanks! Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:52:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks for the response people, but I don't need anymore Cheers Lewis (LSI) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 13 14:46:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6DDj9h00869 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:45:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DDj6Z00853 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:45:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk [192.171.137.25]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DDj0e03397 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:45:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk by bsfiles.nerc-bas.ac.uk (8.8.8/NERC-1.5(Solaris 2.x, SMTP)) id OAA28879; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:44:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from Cambridge-Message_Server by pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:45:15 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:23:55 +0100 From: "Olivier Cottray" To: , Cc: Subject: 10th Notre-Dame de Monts Open Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e6DDj6Z00856 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi everyone- here's a reminder message from the organisers to pass on to all you lot.... check it out; sounds fun- olivier sb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OPEN 2000 NOTRE DAME DE MONTS >From 28th July to 3rd August http://mairie-notre-dame-de-monts.fr/ The sun is shining... The sand is warm and clean... The sea is delicious. It is summertime in Notre Dame de Monts. We expect you to come very soon. The new format of the Open (hat format and campsite accomodation) seems to be a worry for some players. Dont you fret; it'll be a blast, like every year! 40 players registered; still 20 spaces left and the Open starts in a fortnight ! THE OPEN'S 10th ANNIVERSARY - Registration payment, for the moment 16 Euros (105 FF), can be done at your arrival or at the stadium. SCHEDULE OF YOUR WEEK IN PARADISE: Every Morning, if you want : « Golf of the rabbit ». Disc-Golf in the dunes with Top 5 on the last day In the aftrernoons : Initiation at the Stadium. Swimming, sunbathing and picking up (and that's not as in 'ultimate pick-up'...) ! In the evenings (from 7pm) : 1 game for each team (6 teams) = 3 games of one hour each. Saturday 29th, at 3 pm : demonstration on the beach (MTA/ LCR / Ultimate) Food is served by the staff : every morning, a big breakfast at the 'Patrimoine', one evening in two : a warm or cold dinner, except on Saturday 29th and Monday 31st. Party : every night at the « Guy's Bar ». Reggae night at « La Patate » , on Sat 29th July (after the games). The DisConnexion at « Podium Plage » for the Anniversary Night (10th Open) : Fancy dress party.... you've been warned; come prepared- Accomodation : Campsite (300 m from the sea), (expect a budget of about 23 Euros (150FF) for the week) Individual payment at the campsite office at your departure. DON'T FORGET : - Your sun screen, swimsuit and cap. - -tent, sleeping-bag - -shorts and ultimate boots for the grass pitch- (NB: any injuries must be covered by you insurance; don't forget that E111 form...) FOR MORE INFO AND TO REGISTER CONTACT: Bruno at: ServiceCulturel@mairie-notre-dame-de-monts.fr or go to: http://mairie-notre-dame-de-monts.fr/ and follow the 'Open International d'Ultimate' links... See you soon. Best Regards Bruno From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 13 17:59:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6DGvOY16948 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:57:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DGvMM16941 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:57:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6DGvHe09430 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:57:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from m86-mp1-cvx1b.man.ntl.com ([62.252.200.86] helo=default) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 13Cm9M-00037r-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:47:48 +0100 Message-ID: <003401bfec5d$9663cda0$56c8fc3e@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: Subject: URGENT PICKUPS Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:01:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to only finding out about the accommodation on Wednesday, several Swamp Donkeys players have pulled out of Tour 4. We are in danger of pulling out the whole team unless we get some more players for our squad. Please, if anyone would like to play contact me via e-mail before 10.30am tomorrow (or I'll probably lose a lot of money). Either reach me at this address or try any of the other Donkeys (if you know them). Hope you can help. Matt P.S. we are unrostered From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 14 09:16:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6E8ELd06080 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:14:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6E8EJM06074 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:14:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6E8EIe00250 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:14:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from Chuckaway@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id 8.39.7752e50 (4227); Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuckaway@aol.com Message-ID: <39.7752e50.26a025cd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:14:05 EDT Subject: Ultimate Holiday in France To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk CC: ServiceCulturel@mairie-notre-dame-de-monts.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 139 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e6E8EKM06076 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bruno, the tournament organiser, has pleaded with me to convince more Brits to go to this excellent tournament/holiday. He's having problems due to its proximity to worlds. It is great fun though and not too expensive (students?), most meals being provided. For yet further information visit http://mairie.wanadoo.fr/notre.dame.de.monts/ndpage7.htm#DiscConnection or chat to Headrush at the weekend Charlie B-N OPEN 2000 NOTRE DAME DE MONTS >From 28th July to 3rd August The sun is shining The sand is warm and clean. The sea is délicious. It is summertime in Notre Dame de Monts. We expect you to come very soon. The new aspects of the Open (individual registration and campsite) seen to be a worry for you. But it will be a great fun, like every year. We are 40 players. About 20 players are missing and the Open starts in a fortnight ! That's the reason why we want you to confirm your arrival and to inform your friends about it ! DON'T FORGET IT ID THE 10th OPEN ! If you are ready to pay, for the moment, (16 Euros, 105 F), don't worry, you will do it at your arrival or at the stadium. SCHEDULE OF YOUR WEEK TO PARADISE Every Morning, if you want : « Golf of the rabbit ». Disc-Golf in the dunes with Top 5 on the last day In the aftrernoons : Initiation at the Stadium. Swimming, sunbathing and picking up ! In the evenings (from 7pm) : 1 game for each team (6 teams) = 3 games of one hour each. Saturday 29th, at 3 pm : manifestation on the beach (MTA/ LCR / Ultimate) Food is delivered by the staff : every morning, a big breakfast at th Patrimoine », one evring out of two : a cold and a hot lunch, except on Saturday 29th and Monday 31st. Party : every night at the « Guy's Bar ». Reggae night at « La patate » , on Sat 29th July (after the games). The DisConnexion at « Podium Plage » for the Anniversary Night (10th Open) = Big and Crazy night (you can dress you up as what you want !) Accomodation : Campsite (300 m far from the sea), about 23 Euros, F per person for the week. Individual payment at the campsite office at your departure. DON'T FORGET : - Your solar cream, swimsuit and cap. - -tent, sleeping-bag - -short and shoes suitable for the grass (If any problems occur, it will be taken carte by your health insurance) See you soon. Best Regards Bruno From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 14 12:08:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6EB7Dp09188 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:07:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6EB7CM09181 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:07:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.43]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6EB7Be23012 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 12:07:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 23706 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 2000 11:07:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20000714110701.23705.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 172.147.27.34 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:07:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [172.147.27.34] From: "Lewis Rees" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: lewis' new email Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 11:07:01 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My current server is down so if you want to contact me mail me on lewisrees@hotmail.com cheers lewis ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 14 20:18:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6EJFb910073 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:15:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6EJFXM10062 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:15:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe14.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.118]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6EJFWD15610 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:15:32 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 78105 invoked by uid 65534); 14 Jul 2000 19:15:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000714191523.78104.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [213.120.56.45] From: " Ali Topping" To: References: <20000714110701.23705.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: directions to T4 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:19:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk can someone send some directions to the site of T4 to calpunky@hotmail.com I'm approaching from the midlands and so any routes of transport to T4 would be great. Thanks Ali Topping GB junior #99 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 16 22:03:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6GK13v18005 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:01:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6GK0uM17989 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:01:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f184.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.184]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6GK0uD03819 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2000 21:00:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 74778 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jul 2000 20:00:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20000716200045.74777.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 129.11.159.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jul 2000 13:00:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.159.105] From: "Chris Akin" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Oxford Tourney Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 15:00:45 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a ride to the Oxford tourney this coming weekend from Leeds. Anyone heading through/near who might be able to pick me up? Petrol money and mindless chit-chat provided! Thanks! -C (Jedi) Chris Akin Master's Student, University of Leeds chris_akin@hotmail.com Phone: From the U.K.: 0777-564-3801 From the U.S.: 0-11-44-777-564-3801 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 08:22:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6H6lD315228 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 07:47:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6H6l7M15219 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 07:47:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6H6l3e12840 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e6H6l2a12242 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200007170647.e6H6l2a12242@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 22nd July 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour & Eurotour] - British Open (2 days) @ Whitcombe Farm, Beaminster [Golf] Contact Toby Green Email toby.green@europemail.com Rumour has it (2 days) @ Chipping Norton (20 miles north of Oxford) [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Mike Beaton Email OXFORDULTIMATE@HOTMAIL.COM Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 12th August 2000 The Dales Ultimate Tournament 2000 (2 days) @ Ilkley, Yorkshire [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/daleszebedees/ Numbers are limited. To get your yourself there, send a cheque for £50 to the listed address. All profits go to charity. Contact Tim Andrews (Zebedees) Address Flat 3 50 Temple Road Sale Manchester M2 3DL Email daleszebedees@hotmail.com Phone 07771 734559 Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 Glastonbury 2000 - The Gunslinger (2 days) @ Glastonbury [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Contact Eli Katsavras (Substance Abuse) Email elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 10:38:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6H96J301470 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:06:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6H96CM01454 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:06:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6H96BD06333 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:06:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA31019; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:29:59 +0200 Message-ID: <3972C407.C8ABA859@paganello.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:29:59 +0200 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: giampi Subject: Big News from the Beach! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Aloha Beach Ultimate Lovers! Summertime is running through our bodies, the sun is shining, the sand is hot, the life is a beach and the sweat is soaking our white sheets, but, but we got two big news from the Rimini Beach, girls and boys! Here we go! --1) Second Photo Award, by Ultilinks- The Competition Has Started!!!!! Just check out the most beautiful pictures taken at Paganello! Enjoy the longest layouts, the relaxing times at the Beach and the jammers' magics! Then choose the one you like best, send it as postcard to a lovely girl/boy and you can also win a Paga disc and a Paga-shirt! (please note that you can send as many postcards as you wish, but be careful about the one you send frist, since it will get your vote). Read below for more information about Prizes and Rules! http://www.paganello.com (section: PhotoAward) --2) Web Site: Paga2000 Page- Updated with a report about Tournament, Parties, Freestyle and Village! Just check it out and send us yours to share it with all the Beach Ultimate Lovers! http://www.paganello.com (section: Paga2000) *************The Prizes Grand Prize: For the most voted picture, regardless of category. Its author wins a free tournament fee for two at Paganello2001. The picture will become the Paganello2001 poster. Title defender: Arno Lingenhel (Flying Circus, Austria) First Prize: For the most voted picture of the two other categories. So this goes to two people, who'll win a free tournament fee at Paganello2001. The pictures will become the cover of The Roar of The Talking Fish 2001 and have a prominent role in the Paganello web site (www.paganello.com). Drawn Prizes: A paganello disc and long-sleeves shirt will also be given away to two randomly drawn people who sent their votes. *************The Rules Devising a way to make the online polling fair was not an easy task. We have tried to make it simple for people to vote, and at the same time hard for people to cheat. Here's how the voting will work: Each visitor to the site will be able to vote only one picture in each of the three categories. Here's an example: when I first send a picture of Beach Ultimate, that picture gets my vote. Now I can still vote for 1 Freestyle Picture and 1 Paganello Village Picture. If I want to send another Beach Ultimate picture, I can, but it won't count as a vote. Got it? So basically send as many postcards as you wish, but be careful about the one you send frist, since it will get your vote The most voted picture of each category is a winner. That means that the author of the picture will win a free tournament fee at Paganello2001, etc.etc.. The most voted of these three pictures is the super-winner, which means that the author of that picture will win the Grand Prize. In order not to favour anyone, the pictures of each category are shown in random order, changing every time. Since this is an award for the best picture and not for the photographer with most friends, we have decided not to put the author's name next to any picture. The authors will get full credit when the poll is over and the pics will be used for other Paganello or Ultilinks related matters Important: by sending us your pictures you grant us the rights to publish them on Paganello-related promotional items and merchandises, as well as on the Paganello and the Ultilinks web sites. We'll still give you credit for taking the picture, of course. Ciao! -Jumpi the Beach Ultimate Experience is at: http://www.paganello.com -- "E' un mondo difficile, felicita' a momenti, el futuro incerto..." (Tonino Carotone) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 10:56:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6H9dlf07181 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:39:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6H9djM07175 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:39:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (gandalf.ciam.unibo.it [137.204.214.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6H9dhe26211 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:39:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from paganello.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.ciam.unibo.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA31292; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:17:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3972CF11.72D114D3@paganello.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:17:05 +0200 From: Jumpi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: giampi Subject: Jingles! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, I forgot to say that the Jingles 2000 (MP3 Format) are on line too!! ...it is happening again! -Jumpi http://www.paganello.com (section: Jingles) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 13:01:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6HBZuK28913 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:35:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6HBZsM28906 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:35:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6HBZqD24023 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:35:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Mon Jul 17 04:35:34 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:35:34 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Ross X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.129 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Can you publish a team list (I want to try and pick >up, but don't know who is going! see http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/ross2000/entrants.htm NOTES: Hard on Hugh are NOT coming, Ro-Sham-Bo ARE Also, It's unlikely that I'll be sending information to teams before the event - check out the website for directions/maps, etc. (If I haven't put them on the 2000 site yet, look at previous years sites - there are some there, somewhere!) Call the tourist info centre if you're interested in getting a B&B. Space is available at the tournament venue for camping - bring your own tents, etc. The captains meeting will be at 9.00, games will start 9.30 latest. (I'll try to update the website in the not-too-distant future) Wayne --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com (mobile) 07970-903420 (office) 01737-273655 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 15:18:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6HDmAl23163 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:48:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6HDm3M23144 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:48:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mk.egroups.com (mk.egroups.com [207.138.41.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6HDm2e07803 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:48:03 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-Return: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.66] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2000 13:48:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:47:56 -0000 From: "Mads Jacobsen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Wednesday practice, Brighton Message-ID: <8kv2qc+frrh@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anybody is interested, we (Mohawks) are trying to get a practice together in Brighton this Wednesday at 7 in Preston Park. So come along, and spread the word. Also, we hope to get enough people to play on Sundays over the summer (1.30ish in Preston Park). Not this weekend, though, as we are going to Rumour. Drop me a line if you are interested, or just come along. Mads Mohawks sbu09@sussex.ac.uk PS. Thanks to LSI for a great weekend. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 16:32:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6HF43N08368 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:04:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6HF3vM08346 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:03:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk (dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk [134.36.34.9] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6HF3uD15359 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:03:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from ki21t (host62-6-128-113.host.btclick.com [62.6.128.113]) by dulce.mic.dundee.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 3KR1RD2M; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:03:45 +0100 Message-ID: <003601bff000$37c53300$7180063e@ki21t> From: "Ian Cox" To: Subject: Rumour has it & Mythago Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 16:03:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BFF008.94A04800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BFF008.94A04800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to send a mail to Mythago after your mail about pick-ups, but = alas no response! I'm still interested in going to the tourny so if anyone needs an extra = player, I'm willing and able (kind of!) Cheers, Angie (Skunks, real name Andy) PS This is my dad's e-mail, please reply to ajc298@soton.ac.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BFF008.94A04800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I tried to send a mail to Mythago after = your mail=20 about pick-ups, but alas no response!
 
I'm still interested in going to the = tourny so if=20 anyone needs an extra player, I'm willing and able (kind = of!)
 
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PS This is my dad's e-mail, please = reply to=20 ajc298@soton.ac.uk
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BFF008.94A04800-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 17 23:21:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6HL7NU20795 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:07:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6HL6hM20713 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:06:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6HL6he17680 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:06:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-50.tennessee.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.93.50] helo=default) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13EI61-0003OI-00; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:06:38 +0100 Message-ID: <009a01bfed07$ac494460$325d893e@default> From: "Wayne Davey" To: , Cc: References: <39.7752e50.26a025cd@aol.com> Subject: Re: Ultimate Holiday in France Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:07:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I can also say this is a unique tournament experience - one of the best around. I've been the last 4 years. If you're not going to Worlds then don't miss out - it's usually invite only! Wayne Davey GB Masters (otherwise I'd be there) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: 14 July 2000 09:14 Subject: Ultimate Holiday in France Bruno, the tournament organiser, has pleaded with me to convince more Brits to go to this excellent tournament/holiday. He's having problems due to its proximity to worlds. It is great fun though and not too expensive (students?), most meals being provided. For yet further information visit http://mairie.wanadoo.fr/notre.dame.de.monts/ndpage7.htm#DiscConnection or chat to Headrush at the weekend Charlie B-N OPEN 2000 NOTRE DAME DE MONTS >From 28th July to 3rd August The sun is shining The sand is warm and clean. The sea is délicious. It is summertime in Notre Dame de Monts. We expect you to come very soon. The new aspects of the Open (individual registration and campsite) seen to be a worry for you. But it will be a great fun, like every year. We are 40 players. About 20 players are missing and the Open starts in a fortnight ! That's the reason why we want you to confirm your arrival and to inform your friends about it ! DON'T FORGET IT ID THE 10th OPEN ! If you are ready to pay, for the moment, (16 Euros, 105 F), don't worry, you will do it at your arrival or at the stadium. SCHEDULE OF YOUR WEEK TO PARADISE Every Morning, if you want : « Golf of the rabbit ». Disc-Golf in the dunes with Top 5 on the last day In the aftrernoons : Initiation at the Stadium. Swimming, sunbathing and picking up ! In the evenings (from 7pm) : 1 game for each team (6 teams) = 3 games of one hour each. Saturday 29th, at 3 pm : manifestation on the beach (MTA/ LCR / Ultimate) Food is delivered by the staff : every morning, a big breakfast at th Patrimoine », one evring out of two : a cold and a hot lunch, except on Saturday 29th and Monday 31st. Party : every night at the « Guy's Bar ». Reggae night at « La patate » , on Sat 29th July (after the games). The DisConnexion at « Podium Plage » for the Anniversary Night (10th Open) = Big and Crazy night (you can dress you up as what you want !) Accomodation : Campsite (300 m far from the sea), about 23 Euros, F per person for the week. Individual payment at the campsite office at your departure. DON'T FORGET : - Your solar cream, swimsuit and cap. - -tent, sleeping-bag - -short and shoes suitable for the grass (If any problems occur, it will be taken carte by your health insurance) See you soon. Best Regards Bruno From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 18 11:29:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6I9NCj10426 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:23:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6I9MuM10389 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:23:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchange.Exchange ([193.123.31.169]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6I9MoD16287 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:22:51 +0100 (BST) Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3KNG9WTS>; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:20:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Mike Beaton To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Cc: "'ajc298@soton.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Rumour has it & Mythago Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:20:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There will be a pick-up team at Rumour 2000 - so if you haven't got a team, come along. If you can, drop us a line at mailto:oxfordultimate@hotmail.com if you are planning to pick-up, so we can plan numbers. Cheers, Mike (Sharks). -----Original Message----- From: Ian Cox [mailto:dricox@gpiag-asthma.org] Sent: 17 July 2000 16:04 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Rumour has it & Mythago I tried to send a mail to Mythago after your mail about pick-ups, but alas no response! I'm still interested in going to the tourny so if anyone needs an extra player, I'm willing and able (kind of!) Cheers, Angie (Skunks, real name Andy) PS This is my dad's e-mail, please reply to ajc298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 18 16:16:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6IEhEj13245 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:43:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6IEh7M13193 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:43:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6IEh6e23186 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:43:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue Jul 18 07:42:24 2000 To: "BritDisc" , "Ross-On-Wye 2000 TD" Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:42:24 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Ross - one space available! X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We've had a team drop out of Ross-on-Wye 2000. Anyone else want to come? Wayne --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com (mobile) 07970-903420 (office) 01737-273655 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 18 16:25:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6IErQh15105 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:53:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6IEqrM15021 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:52:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6IEqqe24478 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:52:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13EYkP-0005Do-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:53:25 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <355W1C14>; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:52:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:52:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bring your Tequila, bring your dancing shoes..... Sharkies - Oxford Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jul 18 21:05:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6IJQoi03493 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:26:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6IJQYM03450 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:26:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchange.Exchange ([193.123.31.169]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6IJQXD11205 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:26:33 +0100 (BST) Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <3KNG9XBF>; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:23:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: Mike Beaton To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'Milky '" Subject: Rumour - 'do NOT loose this' Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 20:23:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk http://www.beatonm.fsnet.co.uk/rumour_2000.htm Dear All lovers of Ultimate, Sun and Tequila As requested, God has decided summer should come out for Rumour - Thanks. Are you ready......... The above is all you need for the weekend. If you cant down load it, email me, and I will try and sort something out. Bring it on!!! Milky Sharkies - Oxford Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 19 09:44:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6J82qB05418 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:02:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6J82fM05403 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:02:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mimesweeper.bookham.com (mail.bookham.co.uk [195.166.17.164]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6J82WD16740 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:02:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from alpha.bookham.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.bookham.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:00:43 +0100 Received: by alpha.bookham.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:00:35 +0100 Message-ID: <86F477BCF025D411912F00508BACC30A236B8F@alpha.bookham.com> From: Jon Copeland To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: RumouR 2000 Things you need to know! 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 19 09:51:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6J8C5Z06652 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:12:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6J8BxM06634 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:12:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f100.hotmail.com [216.32.181.100]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6J8Bwe19780 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:11:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 40440 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2000 08:11:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20000719081151.40439.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 194.112.45.90 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:11:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [194.112.45.90] From: "Scott Rose" To: the-fish@egroups.com, camdisc@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Ross? 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Mel ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 19 18:59:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6JGmgl21968 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:48:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6JGmZM21958 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:48:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f131.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6JGmYD14637 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 17:48:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 45900 invoked by uid 0); 19 Jul 2000 16:48:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20000719164828.45899.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 212.140.112.175 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:48:28 PDT X-Originating-IP: [212.140.112.175] From: "Andy Cox" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Rumour lift from Reading.... Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:48:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone wanting to travel to Chipping Norton this weekend from Reading is welcome to experience the journey in the luxurious surroundings of my rust heap. Sorry, VW Jetta. I'll be leaving around 7:30/8ish so mail me back or phone me by Friday evening (01491 671806 or 07968 398663). Cheers, Andy Cox ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 20 14:33:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6KCmwg10903 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:48:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6KClcM10597 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:47:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6KClbe28833 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:47:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (smtp1.oneview.net [212.100.96.17]) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id DFZ00380; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:47:25 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:10:26 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ben Peek To: Britdisc Cc: daniela.vitali@bhint.com Subject: Nottingham Co-ed 26-27 Aug - Reminder Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:10:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a reminder about the co-ed tour 3. The closing date is approaching and there are still a few places left..... SuperFly hereby cordially invite you to "COPA CABANA", the third national Co-ed tour tournament of the 2000 Ultimate season, at the fantastic Highfields Hockey Club, NOTTINGHAM on 26th - 27th August 2000 (Bank Holiday Weekend) We also want to have a hat tournament and a day of fun on the Bank Holiday Monday, hopefully raising money for a local charity - please contact me if you're interested. Facilities include Free On Site Camping Friday, Saturday and Sunday Free Breakfast on Saturday and Sunday Quality pitches Variety of cheap food (including BBQ) available on site all day (veggies catered for) Bar open Friday night, Saturday 12 - 11 (possible extension - we'll let you know), Sunday 12 - 10:30 Marquee and big tents to shelter from the hot sun - it will be sunny, ok. Entertainment Bounce Guts, Golf and hacky sack competitions Saturday early evening Saturday night party on site, with crazy DJ's Beer Races Obligatory Saturday Night All the usual SuperFly frolics Cost: 110 Pounds inclusive of BUF tax We're not looking to make a profit from this tournament, so any surplus will be refunded. We are aiming at a 16 team tournament but we have space for more teams, so get your entries in - you'd be daft not to! Directions and further information will be published on the Web soon. Get yer dosh to us by 28th July 2000 Cheques made payable to: Daniela Vitali 38 Sherbrooke Road Carrington Nottingham NG5 2BE Tel: 0115 841 4194 Please email me on benp@penninehealthcare.co.uk if you're interested Let's have fun! Ben SuperFly -------------------------------------------------- Ben Peek I.T. Manager Ivor Shaw Ltd - Pennine Healthcare Ltd Newmarket Drive Ascot Drive Industrial Estate DERBY DE24 8SW U.K. Tel +44 (0)1332 571111 Fax +44 (0)1332 755324 benp@penninehealthcare.co.uk www.penninehealthcare.com -------------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 20 16:20:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6KEqUe04792 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:52:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6KEqJM04762 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:52:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6KEqID11969 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:52:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13FHh2-0008Je-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:52:56 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <355W1CR7>; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:51:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'Brit Disc (E-mail)" Subject: Rumour 2000 - the final mail Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:51:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Diva's & Gods Are you ready? It is happening....14 teams are decending on poor old Chipping Norton for Ultiamte, Hack Volley, Music, Tequlia.... If there is any doubt... You can camp all weekend - INCLUDING FRIDAY NIGHT At the moment, nothing big is planned, but do come if you wnat to aviod an early start.... Love Milk Man Sharkies - Oxford Ultimate - Live it. Love it. 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To be removed from future mailings: mailto:ne1to@prontomail.com?Subject=unsubscribe_your@email.address From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 21 09:58:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6L8GvR05650 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:16:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6L8GLM05593 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:16:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6L8GGe05228 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:16:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13FXzL-00046G-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:16:55 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <355W1CVK>; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'Brit Disc (E-mail)" Subject: Rumour 2000 - the last mail II Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:15:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e6L8GMM05594 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Diva's and God's One more thing........player fee's. Basically, your captain will be asking for the player fees (£10) off you some time on the Saturday. After receiving all the fees, he will receive a ticket book which allows access to the joys of the weekend (food, tequila, party ...). If you can make this is as easy as possible (i.e have the money with you), we will be grateful. See you in a few hours...... Love the weather Milk Man Sharkies - Oxford Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 21 11:05:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6L9Ric18472 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:27:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6L9RcM18444 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:27:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6L9RbD16578 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:27:37 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA03848; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:27:30 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B60F@GB-CHW-MAIL2> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: For Stan Topping Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:27:08 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to bother you all but could Stan Topping please contact me. Cheers Suzanne ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 21 23:42:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6LLkhR28168 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:46:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6LLjMM27987 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:45:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6LLjLe14419 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:45:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4D08CD0056; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:46:56 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.148.74] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A46752D003A; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:45:11 +0100 Message-ID: <004401bff35d$1b8878e0$4a9443d4@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" , "Pete Connor" , "Matthew Franklin" , "Stuart Nicholls" Subject: Attention Netscape Users Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:46:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Those of you using Netscape who have experienced problems with the team search engine on the BUF website will be pleased to know that the bug is now (hopefully) fixed:- http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ Apparently Netscape cannot deal with spaces in URLs Please let me know if you experience any further problems. Thanks Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 23 16:56:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6NFBLF06544 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6NFBEM06518 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6NFBEe08999 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13GNPL-000EAr-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:13 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 10:59:18 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Fluid Druids Ultimate Team Subject: Directions to Ross MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk None of this is being snail-mailed, so don't loose this! There are maps on the tournament website at: http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/ross2000/directions.htm It is recommended that you travel by car! as Ross on Wye doesn't have a railway station, and after 15 years (already!) the tournament organisers still haven't thought to find out how you get there by rail (try http://www.thetrainline.com ?) or coach (try National Express or http://www.gobycoach.com ?), especially if you've flown from another country! Getting to Ross on Wye by Car as interpreted from said street map # A40 from Gloucester/Cheltenham: follow the A40 to a ROUNDABOUT where it turns right, the Fire Station is on your left. Go STRAIGHT ACROSS, into Ross along Gloucester Road. Keep going, past the Market Hall in the Town Centre, along High Street and out of town. Follow the road as it goes left and down the hill as Wilton Road (B4260) and right a little at the bottom. On the LEFT is a CAR PARK. (If you cross the river, you've gone too far, turn back at the roundabout) TURN IN here, follow the trackway that's to the right of the car park and leads to the Ross Sports Centre. # M50 from Worcester/Birmingham/M5 & A449 from Ledbury/Malvern: to the ROUNDABOUT that has the Livestock Market signposted and has the A40 as two exits. Follow the A40, towards Monmouth to the A40/A49/B4260 ROUNDABOUT and take the first exit, towards Ross. You can now follow the directions below. # A40 from Monmouth/Symonds Yat/South Wales & A49 from Hereford/Leominster: follow either the A40 or A49 until you get to the A40/A49 ROUNDABOUT. Head into Ross on Wye on the B4260 (not along the A40/bypass) over the river on Wilton Bridge onto Wilton Road. On the right is a CAR PARK. TURN IN here, follow the trackway that's to the right of the car park and leads to the Ross Sports Centre. NOBODY, but NOBODY, SHOULD DRIVE ACROSS THE CRICKET PITCH AT ANY TIME Well, I hope it helps! Wayne http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/ross2000/ --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jul 23 16:56:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6NFBGj06527 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6NFB9M06501 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6NFB8e08996 for ; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13GNPH-000EAf-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:11:07 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:08:54 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Fluid Druids Ultimate Team Subject: Ross 2000 teams (space for one more!) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to a team withdrawing, and our reserves having sorted out other teams to play for, we're looking for a 24th team! Shout if you're interested. (Beth, what news on Red?) Teams entered, in alphabetical order... 01> Albatross 02> Angels 03> Arranged Marriage 04> Behind The Loaf 05> Blue Arse Flies 06> Ewarwoowar 07> Fever 08> Fluid Druids 09> GB Juniors 10> Log 11> Lurkthings 12> Mud Culture 13> Old Trouts 14> PussyCatZ 15> Ro-Sham-Bo 16> Samurai (I need one of you to contact me, urgently!!!) 17> Slimfast 18> Slipdisc 19> Sneeeky's 20> Substance Abuse 21> Superfly 22> Supernoodle 23> Whiplash 24> for more tournament information, check the website at: http://www.phidelta.demon.co.uk/fluiddruids/ross2000/ --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk office: 01737-273655 mobile: 07970-903420 Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 07:49:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6O6l4U01021 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6O6l3M01014 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6O6l2e01196 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e6O6l2212734 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200007240647.e6O6l2212734@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 29th July 2000 An Open Tourney in Notts [CANCELLED] (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] CANCELLED TO AVOID CLASH WITH ROSS-ON-WYE. Contact Sam Rey Email KLittle@Warnaco.com Ross-on-Wye (2 days) @ Ross-on-Wye TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 12th August 2000 The Dales Ultimate Tournament 2000 (2 days) @ Ilkley, Yorkshire [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/daleszebedees/ Numbers are limited. To get your yourself there, send a cheque for £50 to the listed address. All profits go to charity. Contact Tim Andrews (Zebedees) Address Flat 3 50 Temple Road Sale Manchester M2 3DL Email daleszebedees@hotmail.com Phone 07771 734559 Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 Glastonbury 2000 - The Gunslinger (2 days) @ Glastonbury [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Contact Eli Katsavras (Substance Abuse) Email elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 08:52:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6O7pxw07391 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:51:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6O7pwM07385 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:51:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from bdhp4108.na.pg.com (bdhp4108.na.pg.com [192.44.184.164]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6O7pue03980 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:51:57 +0100 (BST) X-ExtMailInfo: eastman.pd@notes.ntssmtpgw.na.pg.com bdc-notes083.na.pg.com [155.125.116.194] Received: from bdc-notes083.na.pg.com (bdc-notes083.na.pg.com [155.125.116.194]) by bdhp4108.na.pg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22530; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 03:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Lift to Ross (URGENT) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Paul Eastman-PD/PGI" Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:44:12 +0100 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on BDC-NOTES083.NA.PG.COM/PGI(Release 5.0.2b (Intl)|16 December 1999) at 07/24/2000 03:51:53 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks, I'm looking for a lift to Ross this weekend from Newcastle, or some where close. If any one's going from that direction can they please contact me ASAP as I'm on a training course from wednesday. Thanks alot, Paul Eastman RSB phone 0191 2791362 (work phone) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 09:53:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6O8rBm15482 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:53:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6O8r9M15475 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:53:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6O8r8e10081 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:53:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13Gdzl-0004Uq-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:53:53 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <355W1C8G>; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:52:25 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'Brit Disc (E-mail)" Subject: Rumour 2000 - all over the place Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:52:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Gods and Diva's WOW - thanks to everybody for making this first Rumour a wicked event. It was a beginning for us, with an end which we couldn't have predicted - Thanks for dancing, the help in the division of the Hacky Volley rules, the toe sucking, the Tequila race.....THE Tequila. Winners - GB Masters (Held on 15 - 10 over GB CO-ED after CO-ED made a huge comeback) MVP - Knobber (SPL) Plate - All the Governors Men Spoon - Red Spirit - Fledging Fly Catchers See you all next year - It will be sunny!!! Milk Man - Oxford Ultimate - Sharkies P.S. If you weren't there.......come next year - Pictures will follow....... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 14:04:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6OD1qW01036 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:01:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OD1pM01030 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:01:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OD1oe08502 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:01:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.01); Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:01:48 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27362; Mon, 24 Jul 00 14:01:43 BST Message-Id: <10007241301.AA27362@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:01:42 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Bar Do Peixe 2000 - Portugal Photos X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anybody who was out in Portugal this year might be interested to see Pablo's wealth of pictures, available at http://www.pabs2000.com/index.html Steve Balls also has some up at http://www.steveballs.com/ Can you correctly identify the (tastefully) naked GB player? Pete Connor Red 19 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 15:26:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6OEDEU13563 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:13:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OEDBM13555 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:13:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OED4e16268; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:13:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 24 Jul 100 15:12:57 GMT+0001 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 24 Jul 100 15:12:47 GMT+0001 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: bdga@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, eurodisc@ira.uka.de Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:12:41 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: British Open Disc Golf X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <4C5AF3E271B@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The 22nd British Open was held at Whitcombe Farm, Dorset last weekend. Here is a very brief report. 1st Marco Lehousse (Belgium) 350 pounds 2nd Sam Neilson (GB) 250 pounds 3rd Derek Robins (GB) 150 pounds 4th Simon Luard (GB) 125 pounds 5th Liam Young (GB) 100 pounds Womens Division 1st Ruth Steele Amateurs Division 1st Matt Pike This British Open was again part of the Eurotour and we had a record field of competitors with our largest ever contingent of overseas players. Furthest travelled was Rich Hart who flew in from Minnesota, USA to play the tournament. We also had players from France, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, Denmark and Sweden. The high pay-outs which went down to 12th place were largely thanks to the generous support of Leah Healthcare who also provided free chiropractic treatment to players throughout the tournament - both contributions were greatly appreciated. Marco Lehousse dominated proceedings with exceptional scores in the low 50's in the 2nd and 3rd rounds and went into the final 13 shots ahead of Sam Neilson who was clear in 2nd place. With the title wrapped up Marco took his foot off the accelerator in the 9 hole final and Sam came through strongly to close the gap to 6 shots. Derek Robins pipped Simon Luard on the last hole to take 3rd place. The random draw doubles on Friday evening was won by Derek Robins and Jester Wilson. Sam Neilson scored the only ace of the tournament on hole 13 on the Ancient Course. The prize ceremony was both joyous and emotional with tribute being paid to the late Mrs Green who enjoyed seeing disc golfers visit the farm and appreciate the beautiful surroundings. We are grateful that she invited us to play our sport in such a special place. Derek Robins *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 02476 528900 University of Warwick | | Fax 02476 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 16:35:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6OFYhD03211 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:34:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OFYfM03197 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:34:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from gate-isdn.shreeveport.com (gate-isdn.shreeveport.com [194.152.74.125]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OFVcD02895 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:31:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.2.100] (helo=shreeveport_nt.shreeveport.com) by gate-isdn.shreeveport.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13GkDQ-00063O-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:32:24 +0100 Received: by shreeveport_nt with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:30:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: James Hammersley To: "'Brit Disc (E-mail)" Subject: Rumour - Hacky Volley, Toe Sucking and the rest Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:30:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oh they keep coming.... Hacky Volley Champions: 'I've had Adam's Mum' (Dave Trovell, Sitch and Richard [All the governors men]) Tequila Race Champions: Winners - GB COED Best 'wipe-out' - Colin 'Slasher' (How many time did you fall over??) Best Toe Sucking (man-to-man)!!!: Winner: Geoff Jackson on Harry Loser: Harry Best Tequila Drinking Team: (1) JEDI (2) Janitors Next Year Milk Man Oxford Ultimate - Sharkies Live it. Love it. Breath it. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 24 16:56:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6OFtah09158 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:55:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6OFtXM09130 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:55:33 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:56:27 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Paul Hurt Subject: London League Party this Friday Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Subject: London League Party this Friday Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:22:46 +0100 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Hi folks The London Ultimate League draws to a close this week, and the end-of-league party and presentation takes place this Friday night. There'll be a DJ, and the bar will be open until 1am. Everyone (whether you did the league or not) is invited. Should be a laugh - and where else can you drink late on a Friday night in central London without paying to get in? ;-) It's at: The Oval Room @ The Spot, 29/30 Maiden Lane, Covent Garden, London WC2 If you'd like to come down, let me know - I'll either send you a flyer or drop you the "password" which will get you in. Alternatively, just tag along with someone who played in the league. Hope to see some of you there. Paul P.S. If anyone's interested, the "final" takes place at Clapham Common this Wednesday evening at 7.30. Should be a top game. Maps and info are on the website. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt London Ultimate League http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jul 26 23:18:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6QMENL06161 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:14:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6QMELI06153 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:14:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f310.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.185]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6QMCBD16242 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 23:12:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 43862 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 2000 22:11:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000726221134.43861.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 213.120.62.70 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:11:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [213.120.62.70] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift to Ross? Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:11:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could anyone travelling from the OXFORD area help a stranded player to Ross this weekend? Perhaps a Sharks/Behind the Loaf player? Hope someone can help - don't much fancy walking it! Tony (last year - Oregon State Beavers) (next year - SuperFly?) antony_marsh@hotmail.com 01295 730391 ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 27 13:18:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6RCFH319299 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:15:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6RCFEI19288 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:15:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6RCDZD29347 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:13:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-49.fluvoxamine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.207.49] helo=default) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13HmXe-0004Mc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:13:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bff7c3$302863e0$31cf883e@default> From: "James Martin" To: Subject: Ross.. Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:06:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF7CB.75476C20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF7CB.75476C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there any teams going to Ross this weekend, that are short on = players.. Please let me know.. Cheers Jim Fingers 6. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF7CB.75476C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are there any teams going to Ross this = weekend,=20 that are short on players..
Please let me know..
 
Cheers
 
Jim
Fingers 6.
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFF7CB.75476C20-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 27 17:00:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6RFwFt11068 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:58:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6RFwDI11050 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:58:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6RFruD20533 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:53:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Thu Jul 27 08:53:29 2000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "James Martin" Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:53:29 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Ross.. X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At the moment, there's a complete free slot, so any and all "unattached" players that wish to come along and form part of a pick-up team are more than welcome. Wayne Ross TD --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com (mobile) 07970-903420 (office) 01737-273655 On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:06:19 James Martin wrote: >Are there any teams going to Ross this weekend, that are short on players.. >Please let me know.. > >Cheers > >Jim >Fingers 6. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jul 27 20:03:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6RJ0nN09442 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:00:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6RJ0lI09434 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:00:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (web115.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6RJ0ke05285 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:00:46 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 23101 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2000 19:00:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000727190043.23100.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [212.126.144.12] by web115.yahoomail.com; Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:00:43 PDT Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:00:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Spyce Subject: missing fleece jumper To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi BD, sorry if you are not the guy who picked up my black Gap fleece vest thing. If you are, thanks for hanging on to it, if you are going to Ross this weekend please hand it into either of my two pals: Jonathan (John), ginger guy playing for Substance Abuse. Will probably be puking on Sun morning, may be missing skin on head and other regions. Carol (Cazza), ginger girl on Mud Culture, will make people puke on Sun morning cos she is really fast. Not to be confused with Isla. Tell them Bryce sent you. Cheers, Bryce Far Flung __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 28 00:41:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6RNcWT25926 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:38:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6RNcUI25921 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:38:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6RNcUe21674 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:38:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13HxEQ-000OsK-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:38:27 +0100 Message-ID: <5YcjIBAp2Lg5EwqD@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:54:33 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Fluid Druids Ultimate Team Subject: Ross MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Captains meeting is at 9.00, games are due to start at 9.15. Wayne --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 28 12:03:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6SB0SE23315 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:00:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6SB0NI23299 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:00:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6SB0Ne03376 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:00:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13I7sM-000DrG-0C; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:00:22 +0000 Subject: London party tonight Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:04:26 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "London League" , "BritDisc" , "spandau" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk London League "end-of-league" party is tonight (Friday). ------------------------------------------------------- Takes place in The Oval Room at: The Spot, 29/30 Maiden Lane, Covent Garden, London WC2 * Everyone welcome, league player or not. Tell your team-mates/friends. * 7pm - 1am (most people seem to be arriving around 8 ?) * Entry is FREE before 10pm, a fiver afterwards * League winners & spirit presentation around 10pm * DJs Dr. Love and RV will be spinning a selection of tunes Getting in ---------- To avoid being gate-crashed, there are very weak criteria for getting in. You (and whoever's with you) get in as long as: 1) You have a flyer (handed out/sent out this week) OR 2) You state the name of your London League team (doesn't have to be the truth...;-) OR 3) You're on the "guest list" OR 4) Just say you're a friend of mine! However, none of the above will get you in free after 10pm!!! Be there early. Thanks everyone. See you there! Paul P.S. Sorry if you get this message more than once... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt London Ultimate League http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jul 28 14:45:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6SDiBv23307 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:44:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6SDi9I23293 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:44:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1804.mail.yahoo.com (web1804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.47]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e6SDi8e19214 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:44:08 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 25498 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jul 2000 13:44:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20000728134403.25497.qmail@web1804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.44.0.224] by web1804.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:44:03 PDT Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 06:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jonathan=20Pearce?= Subject: offer of lift to ross To: Britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know it's late, but if anyone wants a lift to ross from hampshire area early sat morning then ring me on 02392 792881 or mob email me on johnnyp_76@yahoo.com. I is driving. cheers johnny p (convoy - ewarwoowar boys. oh yes) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 31 07:52:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6V6l4u12084 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6V6l3I12079 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6V6l3e17695 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e6V6l2Y08036 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200007310647.e6V6l2Y08036@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Monday 31st July 2000 PDGA World Championships (6 days) @ Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA [Golf Abroad] URL: http://www.pdga.com/ Amateur and Professional championships happening at the same venue! Contact Derek Robins Phone 01926 864 136 Saturday 5th August 2000 WFDF World Ultimate & Guts Championships (8 days) @ Heilbronn, Germany [Outdoor Ultimate Guts Abroad] URL: http://www.wuc2000.org/ National Teams only. BDGA Golf - Pro-Am (2 days) @ Oxford [Golf] Contact Bud Tilton Saturday 12th August 2000 The Dales Ultimate Tournament 2000 (2 days) @ Ilkley, Yorkshire [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/daleszebedees/ Numbers are limited. To get your yourself there, send a cheque for £50 to the listed address. All profits go to charity. Contact Tim Andrews (Zebedees) Address Flat 3 50 Temple Road Sale Manchester M2 3DL Email daleszebedees@hotmail.com Phone 07771 734559 Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana.htm Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 Glastonbury 2000 - The Gunslinger (2 days) @ Glastonbury [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Contact Eli Katsavras (Substance Abuse) Email elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 31 13:59:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6VCv7P09708 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:57:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VCv4I09693 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:57:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from hydrogen.cen.brad.ac.uk (hydrogen.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VCrOD25176 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:53:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by hydrogen.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17691 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:53:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from lithium.cen.brad.ac.uk (lithium.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.2]) by kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07184 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:53:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (bmwhenlo@localhost) by lithium.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA09484 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:53:20 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: lithium.cen.brad.ac.uk: bmwhenlo owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:53:20 +0100 (BST) From: BM Whenlock X-Sender: bmwhenlo@lithium.cen.brad.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Dales Tourney Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am looking for a team to pick up with for the forthcoming Dales tourney on the 12th and 13th of August I live in Bradford and can find my own way there if given directions from the train station Hope someone can accomadate me All the best Ben Disciples ============= He who dares wins ============= From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 31 22:07:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6VL5Xu04231 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VL5WI04222 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VL5Ue02691 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13JMkR-000Gw9-0B; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:05:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:39:56 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: Fluid Druids From: Fluid Druids Ultimate Team Subject: Ross-on-Wye 200: Results MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Many thanks to all that attended, hope you all got home safe and aren't too sunburned. Thanks for taking what you were offered and making it something better. Wayne PS: "Lost and Found" to follow... BEER RACE 14 beer-racing teams participated, here's the results of the Final: 1. Pond Team 2. Albatross 3. GB Juniors 4. Not Bitter ULTIMATE SOTG: Mud Culture TROPHY 1. Log 2. Fluid Druids 3. High Society 4. Funky Monks 5. Supernoodle 6. Whiplash 7. Blue Arse Flies 8. Lurkthings PLATE 9. Slimfast 10. Arranged Marriage 11. Fever 12. Behind the Loaf 13. Superfly 14. Old Trouts 15. GB Juniors 16. Mud Culture TANKARD 17. Sneeekys 18. Substance Abuse 19. EwarWoowar 20. Slipdisc 21. Ro-Sham-Bo 22. Albatross 23. Angels --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 31 22:07:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6VL77T04380 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:07:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VL75I04375 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:07:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VL75e02757 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:07:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13JMkR-000GwA-0B; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:05:20 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:00:01 +0100 To: BritDisc Cc: Fluid Druids From: Fluid Druids Ultimate Team Subject: Ross-on-Wye: Lost and Found MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 1. Anyone picked up ONE of my DDC discs (orange, smaller and lighter than an Ultrastar, "Double Disc Court" in the hot-stamp, and "Wayne Retter" faintly on the back)? The game isn't quite the same without it... 2. The pile of smelly kit that other people left lying around: Named stuff: ~ Hooves - Paganello 2000 chair; ~ Janey - Blue plastic Adidas waterbottle; ~ Lucy B - "Alpine Design" Gore-tex jacket; Accessories: ~ Ultrastar: Nelson 1999 New Zealand Ultimate Disc Nationals; ~ Black metal Adidas waterbottle; ~ Lucozade Sport waterbottle; ~ White towel; Clothing: ~ Blue-gray cap with "Rusty" on; ~ "Regatta X-ert" jacket; ~ "Gran Canaria Beach Ultimate" white vest; ~ "Mild Mannered Janitors" black T; ~ "Raleigh International, Surgical Eye Expedition" white T; ~ "Force Elektro" white long-sleeve; ~ Adidas shorts - 30" waist, blue with gold trim; ~ Adidas cycle shorts - size S, white; ~ "Deuce" swim shorts, blue, red and green; ~ Adidas turf boots - size 10; ~ Adidas football boots - size 10.5 (slightly mouldy!); ~ Dita hockey/turf boots - size 8, with sorboethane and Nike socks; ~ Dita hockey/turf boots - size 8.5 with inner soles and Thor-lo socks; If you've lost it, mail me to arrange getting it back to you. Wayne --- Wayne Retter fluiddruids@phidelta.demon.co.uk Fluid Druids Ultimate Team fluiddruids@egroups.com http://www.dreamer.demon.co.uk/druids/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jul 31 22:07:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e6VL5Si04219 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VL5RI04214 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e6VL5Pe02685 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13JMkQ-000PNB-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:05:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 21:07:51 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: (from r.s.d) Canadian Nationals Updates References: <3984F635.2CFDD0B2@unixg.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <3984F635.2CFDD0B2@unixg.ubc.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I came across this on rec.sport.disc Does Canada = Furious George at Worlds, next week? Wayne Subject: (U) Canadian Nationals Updates >> Results please. > >Open: Furious George (Van) over Invictus (Calgary) 19-1 (not a misprint) > >Women: Prime (Van) over Flo (Calgary) (not sure of score - I was >watching the travesty that was the Calgary vs. Montreal semi where >Calgary made call after call after call) > >Mixed: RoShamBo (Van). over Chaos (Winnipeg) 17-14 > >Masters: Farm Accidents (Van) - I have no idea who they beat - sorry > >Juniors: DFA (Van) over MoFo (Winnipeg) 13-12 (overcoming a 4-10 deficit >to win in a time cap) > >An excellently run tournament and a fun four days. > >Tommy ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 03:17:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e712FkN14548 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:15:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e712FjI14543 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:15:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from server4.sje.dk ([195.41.117.133]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e712Fhe14586; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 03:15:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.0.1] by server4.sje.dk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id 430; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 04:16:04 +0200 Message-ID: <0000704d3c08$0000146e$00007d1e@from jofecj. ([264.44.30.4]) by rs5s2.dadacentere.cha.camtv.net.ie (8.9.1a/8.9.1/1.0) with SMTP id NAA11975 > To: Undisclosed.Recipients@sje.dk From: replya34@bigfoot.com Subject: NRGE - (Buy Alert) 8448 Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:38:34 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: replya35@bigfoot.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk DIRIGO BUY ALERT: Nu Electric Corporation Symbol: NRGE Traded: OTC Bulletin Board Recent Price: 1 1/2 Shares Outstanding: 4,112,855 Approximate Float: 900,000 52 Week Trading Range: 3/8 - 2 3/4 SUMMARY: Investing in a low-priced stock that is virtually unknown but is on the threshold of a dramatic breakout can have the highest reward-risk ratio and provide the astute investor with outstanding gains. We believe that we've found just such a situation in Nu Electric Corporation - a company formed to take advantage of opportunities in technology, whenever and wherever they appear. 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Purchase of this stock may be considered speculative, and may result in the loss of some or all of any investment made. ================================================================= Please double click on the below link to be excluded from further communication. mailto:exclude77@uole.com?subject=delete ================================================================= DIRIGO BUY ALERT: Nu Electric Corporation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 14:53:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71Dos015969 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:50:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71DopO15956 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:50:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71DnHY23085 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:49:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (user-01-056.oneview.net [62.172.177.56] (may be forged)) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id DXJ00418; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:49:09 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:11:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ben Peek To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Copa Cabana - Nottingham CO-ED - OPEN - HAT Tournament Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:11:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk CO-ED TOUR 3 - NOTTINGHAM - 26th & 27th AUGUST 2000 There are still a few places for any teams wanting to enter the Copa Cabana Co-ed Tour 3 at Nottingham. Please get in touch with me if you would like some more information, or go to: http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana_b.htm (we're going to improve the site soon)) OPEN TOURNAMENT We're also holding an open tournament at the same venue, on the same weekend as the co-ed. Cost 110 pounds, including: free breakfast on Saturday and Sunday camping on site party on Saturday night, with guest DJ's Beer race Bounce Guts, Hacky Sack, DDC etc. Marquee and tents to shelter from the sun/rain massage tent and St John Ambulance variety of food available all day Bar open Friday - Sunday There will be a pick up team too so please get in touch if you're interested. HAT TOURNAMENT - BANK HOLIDAY MONDAY On the Bank holiday Monday, 28th August, we're hoping to hold a hat tournament. If you can't make the co-ed/open on Saturday and Sunday, or you want to stay for an extra day, why not sign up for a day of fun in the sun. We're going to be raising some money for a local charity and will be putting on some entertainment during the day. For more info please email me: benp@penninehealthcare.co.uk Cheers for now, Ben SuperFly From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 15:28:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71ERtB23132 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:27:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71ERrO23119 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:27:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e71ERq807143 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:27:52 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA31430; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:27:51 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B676@GB-CHW-MAIL2> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WANTED Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:27:07 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk One mature, slightly damaged frisbee player looking for man or woman with similar interests to use his plane ticket to go to Heilbronn this weekend. 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(flight at 11.50 from Heathrow this Saturday, more details available by request, a slight discount on the 115 pounds may be available) Suzanne ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 16:01:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71F0lc29840 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:00:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71F0kO29834 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:00:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from wiblhs3.windsor.co.uk (wiblhs.windsor.co.uk [193.122.212.66]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71EmfY29583 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:48:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from wiblhs.windsor.co.uk (unverified) by wiblhs3.windsor.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:43:34 +0100 Received: by WIBLHS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: <5035BDBA4802D411850300508B6DD14A19C1B9@WIBLHS> From: "Goolden, Jack" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: party Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:43:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative ; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFFBC6.DDCFE930" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. 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 ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFBC6.DDCFE930-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 17:00:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71FxPg14040 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:59:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71FxNO14032 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:59:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e71Fk6Y06139 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:46:07 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA07189; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:46:05 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B67C@GB-CHW-MAIL2> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: WANTED Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:45:17 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk SOLD!!! -----Original Message----- From: Penfold Suzanne Sent: 01 August 2000 15:51 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WANTED One mature, slightly damaged frisbee player looking for man or woman with similar interests to use his plane ticket to go to Heilbronn this weekend. GSOH and NS essential, OHAC preferred. Reply to address above. (flight at 11.50 from Heathrow this Saturday, more details available by request, a slight discount on the 115 pounds may be available) Suzanne ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 18:41:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71HTTl28928 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:29:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71HTRO28918 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:29:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71HTP823243 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:29:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A9654530236; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 18:31:17 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.149.142] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A8EE6C3B010E; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 18:29:18 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01bffbde$3c1b5940$8e9543d4@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Hereford Cows & G-men Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:24:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone from Hereford Cows and also G-men please get in contact. For that matter, if there are any other teams floating around out there who are not on the BUF list (see http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf) please get in contact. We just want to be able to keep in touch. Thanks Ben Ravilious BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 18:48:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71Hm1901788 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:48:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71HlxO01778 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71Hlw824202 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:47:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from irafs1.ira.uka.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:47:51 +0200 Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de by irafs1 (PP) with ESMTP; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:47:50 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:47:50 +0200 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: Re: party Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Does anybody have details of the parties at Worlds? What's the theme, and >is there a web site for the tournament? The web site is here: http://www.wuc2000.org/ Don't know if there is a theme for the parties but the general tendency is towards having a beach party. Check out for yourself. And if you are looking for even more information on the WUGC you can still check in to the mailing list http://www.ira.uka.de/~thgries/disc/wugc2000-l.html or just browse its archive. Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 19:04:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71I3Xo04308 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:03:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71I3TO04299 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:03:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71I3S825164 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:03:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (user-01-056.oneview.net [62.172.177.56] (may be forged)) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id DXZ00053; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:03:25 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:58:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ben Peek To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nottingham 'Copa Cabana' Tournament 26th-28th August Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:58:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I forgot to say: Cheques payable to D Vitali please send to: Daniela Vitali 38 Sherbrooke Road, Carrington Nottingham NG5 2BE Cheers, Ben SuperFly From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 19:04:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71I4S604461 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:04:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71I4RO04451 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:04:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f334.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.209]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71I4Q825214 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:04:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:04:19 -0700 Received: from 62.6.127.249 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 01 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.6.127.249] From: "Andy Cox" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Reading Ultimate Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 18:04:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2000 18:04:19.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9F288F0:01BFFBE2] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Firstly, apologies to anyone who this doesn't apply to. Secondly, I'd like to ask everyone in Reading who's using andy@theroyals.co.uk to switch to this account. Also, someone e-mailed me recently asking about Reading practises (I think they knew someone who played for Point Blank?) Anyway, my another.com account has gone tits up, and I've lost the lot. So if you are that person or know them please don't give up! I did want to reply, honest!! Cheers Angie (Skunks) Moral of the story: stay away from another.com they are poo. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 1 21:13:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e71KCwJ25672 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:12:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71KCvO25661 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:12:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtcmta04.totalserve.net ([213.27.0.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e71KCt801882 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:12:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from default ([213.27.43.125]) by mtcmta04.totalserve.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id FYMQQI01.G23 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 20:11:06 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01bffbf3$caefc880$7d2b1bd5@default> From: "Alastair Findlay" To: Subject: DJ and Voodo from DSM Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:05:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BFFBFC.2AB50520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BFFBFC.2AB50520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry BD but has anybody out there got DJ and Voodo's e-mail address. = Many thanks. =20 ALi =20 Slimfast - giving it large ........ and lard p.s Good Luck to all those GB squads jetting out to Germany this week. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BFFBFC.2AB50520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Released by your own pituitary gland, GH starts declining in your 20s, even more in your 30s and 40s, eventually resulting in the shrinkage of From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 10:10:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7292Rl29184 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:02:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7292OO29176 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:02:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.BMPDDB.COM (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7292O806205 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:02:24 +0100 (BST) Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:02:29 +0100 Message-ID: <12ABA23297FBD31183C60008C786586A526DDB@polaris.bmpddb.com> From: David.Trovell@omduk.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Northwick Park? Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:02:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is anyone out there in Britdiscland studying at Northwick Park? If so let me know Cheers Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Cox [SMTP:andycox23@hotmail.com] > Sent: 01 August 2000 19:04 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Reading Ultimate > > Firstly, apologies to anyone who this doesn't apply to. > > Secondly, I'd like to ask everyone in Reading who's using > andy@theroyals.co.uk to switch to this account. Also, someone e-mailed me > recently asking about Reading practises (I think they knew someone who > played for Point Blank?) Anyway, my another.com account has gone tits up, > and I've lost the lot. So if you are that person or know them please don't > > give up! I did want to reply, honest!! > > Cheers > > Angie (Skunks) > > Moral of the story: stay away from another.com they are poo. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 11:14:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72A4H009882 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:04:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72A4EO09867 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:04:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e729lIY05631 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from rmexchange2.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09286 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:16 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange2.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: <9E34DDD518F1D211B1D50008C75D4D7B0550E6F7@rmexchange2.internal.rmplc.net> From: WILLIAM HALLIDAY To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ticket not SOLD!! Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:47:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e72A4FO09868 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello everyone Due to injury I'm in the unfortunate position of not going to Worlds with GB Masters so I'm trying to get rid of my flight to Stuttgart on Saturday morning at 11.50. So if you have a keen supporter or boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband who would like to go give me a mail soonish! The ticket was bought for £115 - I'm open to offers! Will -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com [mailto:Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com] Sent: 01 August 2000 16:45 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: WANTED SOLD!!! -----Original Message----- From: Penfold Suzanne Sent: 01 August 2000 15:51 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: WANTED One mature, slightly damaged frisbee player looking for man or woman with similar interests to use his plane ticket to go to Heilbronn this weekend. GSOH and NS essential, OHAC preferred. Reply to address above. (flight at 11.50 from Heathrow this Saturday, more details available by request, a slight discount on the 115 pounds may be available) Suzanne ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 11:15:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72ADm711667 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:13:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72ADkO11661 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:13:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72ABZY08290 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:11:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from rmexchange2.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11420 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:11:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange2.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:11:33 +0100 Message-ID: <9E34DDD518F1D211B1D50008C75D4D7B0550E6FA@rmexchange2.internal.rmplc.net> From: WILLIAM HALLIDAY To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: flight to Germany ticket still for sale Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:11:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BFFC6A.08664EDE" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFC6A.08664EDE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone The previous mail sent by Suze Pennington saying the ticket was sold = was wrong I'm afraid. Due to injury I'm in the unfortunate position of not going to Worlds = with GB Masters so I'm trying to get rid of my flight to Stuttgart on Saturday morning at 11.50. So if you have a keen supporter or boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband = who would like to go give me a mail soonish! The ticket was bought for =A3115 - I'm open to offers! Will STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy = it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information = only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of = this message. 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Hello Everyone

The previous mail = sent by Suze=20 Pennington saying the ticket = was sold was=20 wrong I'm afraid.

Due to injury I'm in the unfortunate position of not = going to=20 Worlds with GB Masters so I'm trying to get rid of my flight to = Stuttgart on=20 Saturday morning at 11.50.

So if you have a keen supporter or=20 boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband who would like to go give me a mail=20 soonish!

The ticket was bought for =A3115 - I'm open to = offers!

Will



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------_=_NextPart_001_01BFFC6A.08664EDE-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 12:02:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72B1O822166 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:01:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72B1MO22143 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:01:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from fsmail.net (mail.fsmail.net [216.200.119.37]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e72ApZY12882 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:51:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7167 invoked by uid 1120); 2 Aug 2000 10:51:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000802105132.7166.qmail@fsmail.net> From: david ness Subject: FAO Jim Macdonald To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 11:51:32 +0100 (GMT+01:00) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry all... Jim can you get in touch with me at this address cheers nessie _______________________________________________________________________ FSmail - Get your free web-based email from Freeserve: www.fsmail.net From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 12:43:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72BfO100575 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:41:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72BfMO00570 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:41:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f290.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.165]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e72BfL822620 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:41:21 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 50089 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 2000 11:40:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20000802114043.50088.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.92.195.244 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:40:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.195.244] From: "Tim Andrews" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Dales Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 11:40:42 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Whilst the Dales is a free and easy kinda event some idea of who plans to be there would be helpful. We have had indications from about 8 teams but only three confirmations. Whilst the beer will still flow the games may not unless we hear this week from some more teams. Cheers Zebs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 13:21:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72CKRd07128 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:20:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72CKQO07121 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:20:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from web5402.mail.yahoo.com (web5402.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.140]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e72CKI826930 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:20:19 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20000802122003.17745.qmail@web5402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.205.83.242] by web5402.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:20:03 BST Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 13:20:03 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Melanie=20Barlow?= Subject: Re: Reading Ultimate To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Andy, got it, thanks. For Andy, and anyone else who is interested: Reading practices are 7pm, Thursdays at Cintra Park (directions follow). Everyone is welcome (we need bodies). Thankyou to you die-hard lads who have made my Thursdays. So far, numbers have reached the dizzying height of 6 (thanks all) and have never fallen below 2 (thanks Pete). Suggestions or questions welcome. See some of you Thurs. Mel Directions to Cintra park from central Reading: Heading south on Southampton St (crosses with the A4.. also originates from the f*%$-off round-about next to the Oracle's car park). Keep travelling until you reach a 3-way intersection with another round-about(beyond having to turn to page 32 or your Reading AtoZ). Left at the round-about will take you along Christchurch Rd. Keep on driving, pass the big school (The Abbey) on the right, then turn right into Cintra Avenue. Continue and park on the right before its 90 degree bend. The part of the park that we play in is on your left, so you ought to see us playing right there. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 15:38:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72EbM204626 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:37:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72EbLO04621 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:37:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72EaRY06732 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:36:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id QAA21579; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:36:23 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma021577; Wed, 2 Aug 00 16:36:23 +0200 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA11616; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:36:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id QAA22775; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:36:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900010476069; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:38:17 +0200 To: Cc: , Subject: Re: [londonleague] London League final placings Message-ID: <0056900010476069000002L092*@MHS> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:38:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 08/02/00 16:32:37" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e72EbLO04622 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I would just like to say yet again, Thankyou for organising the whole thing Paul... you did a storming job! Hannah (Far Queue) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 15:38:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72EUEi03252 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:30:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72EUCO03244 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:30:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72EUB810200 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:30:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13JzX6-000ASC-0U; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:30:08 +0100 Subject: London League final placings Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:34:16 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "London League" , "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks Here are the final placings for the 2000 London Ultimate League: 1 Far Queue 2 Freak Show 3 Spandau Ballet 4 Strawberry Jam 5 Treadmill 6 Angels 7 Hammerage 8 Bad Habits 9 Odelayout And in the spirit competition, the top four places were as follows: 1 Far Queue (35.3 pts) 2 Spandau Ballet (33.6 pts) 3 Freak Show (29.6 pts) 4 Bad Habits (26.8 pts) Congratulations to Far Queue for doing the double. Trophies are being engraved and should be ready a week or so after Worlds. Respect to everyone who partied the night away on Friday and still made it to Ross the next day. Special thanks to Dr. Love and RV for their excellent DJ sets. Visit the website in a couple of weeks time for video of the lava lamp trophies, and incriminating pictures from the party. Finally, thanks to everyone who played in the 2000 League. The league is only a success because of the way you lot faithfully show up for your games each week. All I do is write a schedule and book a few pitches... Looking forward to 2001 already. Paul P.S. Don't forget there are still London pickup games happening until September at least. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt London Ultimate League http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 17:10:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72G9JU22691 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:09:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72G9HO22684 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:09:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.organic.com (mx1.organic.com [207.76.139.5]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72G98Y17378 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:09:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from fwd1-sf.organic.com (fwd1-sf [207.76.139.9]) by mx1.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08618 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1-lon.organic.com (bath.organic.com [192.168.136.7]) by fwd1-sf.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19832 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simonlaptop ([192.168.136.176]) by po1-lon.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA02034 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:10:24 GMT Message-ID: <007f01bffc9b$f3c7c7f0$b088a8c0@organic.com> From: "Simon Norris" To: "BritDisc" References: Subject: good worlds omen? Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:08:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk well maybe not but we did manage to win a tournament in Germany this weekend. read all about it in the Berlin Morgenpost: http://www.berliner-morgenpost.de/cgi-bin/e?u=/archiv2000/000801/lokalanzeig er_s/story166888.html of course its in German! Simon Hammerage From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 2 18:26:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e72HHnn04520 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:17:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e72HHlO04498 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:17:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe33.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e72HCiY22487 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:12:44 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 59406 invoked by uid 65534); 2 Aug 2000 17:12:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000802171237.59405.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [62.7.86.107] From: "Lars Patel" To: "Britdisc" Subject: London Practises Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 18:04:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've got a friend who lives in London who has never played before but is keen. Are there any practises going on that beginners could go along to in London? Lars Slipdisc & Arranged Marriage - Indian From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 3 16:56:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e73FrgV08909 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:53:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e73FreO08897 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:53:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e73FmRY15627 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 16:48:27 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA30302; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:48:22 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: <40BC86874C46D4118D7D0000F8023F0D57B6A8@GB-CHW-MAIL2> From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Contact for Will Halliday Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:47:21 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Will, if you get this at home can you please phone me about the plane ticket tonight. Does anyone else have the phone number for Will at home? Please call me as I am going home now. My phone number is 01509 558329. ta Suzanne ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 4 09:21:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e748J8K06718 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:19:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e748J6O06713 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:19:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e748J6808655 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:19:06 +0100 (BST) Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:15:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Tour 4 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:15:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you who don't know here are the results for Tour 4: 1 Doughboy 2 UTI 3 Catch 22 4 Chevron 5 Red 6 Druids 7 Fusion 8 DSM 9 BAF 10 Hammerage 11 Headrush 12 Strange Blue 13 Point Blank 14 Sharks 15 Night Fever 16 GB Juniors 17 Ro-Sham-Bo 18 Superfly 19 MMJ 20 More MMJ 21 Slipdisc 22 GB Women 23 Jedi 24 Mud Culture 25 LSI 26 BAF Co-ed 27 Yorkie Bar Kids 28 Swamp Donkeys 29 Bears From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 4 14:00:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e74CvGc26144 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:57:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e74CvEO26137 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:57:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f231.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.231]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e74CvDY23926 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 13:57:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 05:57:03 -0700 Received: from 195.92.67.72 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.72] From: "Chris Berry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lewis from PDQ Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:57:03 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2000 12:57:03.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C4A2190:01BFFE13] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have Lewis' (from PDQ) telephone number? Lewis, would like to talk to you asap (before sat)... thanx. Chris Berry. (o7967 757861) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 4 20:37:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e74JZTx23492 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:35:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e74JZQO23472 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:35:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e74JZP803864 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 20:35:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from s9402225.student.utwente.nl (ut117151.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.117.151]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id VAA07903; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:35:22 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000804205757.00bdc880@mail.student.utwente.nl> X-Sender: s9402225@mail.student.utwente.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 X-Priority: 2 (High) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:34:51 +0200 To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, wurfpost@uni-koblenz.de, frisbee_dk@egroups.com, itadisc@egroups.com From: Hinderik de Keijzer Subject: FW: Dutch Open -be there- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here's a (re)announcement: What? Dutch Open Ultimate Outdoor Championship 2000 When? 16-17 September 2000 Where? Enschede, The Netherlands ----- Who? 24 teams, most of them Dutch, but also some foreign teams It's not to late for you to register and enjoy! ----- Get? Ultimate, dinner saturday, party, sleep in your tent, breakfast sunday, more ultimate, lunch, souvenir Cost? fl. 175,-- p. team + fl. 25,-- p. player Send me an email for more info. If you're interested in coming as a pickup player, let me know also. If we get enough response we'll probably have a pickup team arranged. Hinderik -- I'll be back home aug, 13 after Worlds From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Aug 6 06:12:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7659pO06514 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 06:09:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7659nO06507 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 06:09:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from eve.speakeasy.net (eve.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.17]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7659lY10229 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 06:09:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultilinks.com (samb-3.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.44.47]) by eve.speakeasy.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e7659mb29860; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 22:09:49 -0700 Message-ID: <398CF1B4.753694CD@ultilinks.com> Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 22:03:48 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" Subject: Ultilinks [finally] updated Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey Ultimate lovers! I've finally had some time to update Ultilinks. Here's what's new: *.A new excellent article on Australian Ultimate by Sally Crick *.Updated the links: now we have more than 1000 links, in 43 countries! Hurray! *.The 2nd Paganello Photo Award is well under way: see some cool beach-ultimate pictures, send a postcard, and you could win a disc or shirt. *.New educational articles from The Ultimate Handbook: - Throwing in the presence of a mark (by Jim Parinella) - Buying Cleats (by David Jez) All of this and more at your favorite ultimate website: http://www.ultilinks.com/ Keep the spirit high, Peldi PS.For those of you I know personally (and care ;), I now live in San Francisco. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 07:50:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e776l4K11290 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e776l3O11284 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e776l2821186 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e776l2b04258 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200008070647.e776l2b04258@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 12th August 2000 The Dales Ultimate Tournament 2000 (2 days) @ Ilkley, Yorkshire [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.angelfire.com/ut2/daleszebedees/ Numbers are limited. To get your yourself there, send a cheque for £50 to the listed address. All profits go to charity. Contact Tim Andrews (Zebedees) Address Flat 3 50 Temple Road Sale Manchester M2 3DL Email daleszebedees@hotmail.com Phone 07771 734559 Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana.htm Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 Glastonbury 2000 - The Gunslinger (2 days) @ Glastonbury [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Contact Eli Katsavras (Substance Abuse) Email elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 09:29:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e778RgO19773 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:27:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e778ReO19768 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:27:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (web803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.63]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e778Rd827790 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:27:39 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 24711 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2000 08:27:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000807082727.24710.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.36.171.210] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:27:27 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?andy=20lucey?= Subject: worlds To: britdisc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk can someone give me a site address for following worlds __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 09:37:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e778aR521010 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:36:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e778aPO21001 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:36:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.organic.com (mx1.organic.com [207.76.139.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e778aO828689 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:36:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from fwd1-sf.organic.com (fwd1-sf [207.76.139.9]) by mx1.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA02054; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1-lon.organic.com (bath.organic.com [192.168.136.7]) by fwd1-sf.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23389; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from simonlaptop ([192.168.136.176]) by po1-lon.organic.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA13345; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:37:46 GMT Message-ID: <001201c0004a$8ae865c0$b088a8c0@organic.com> From: "Simon Norris" To: "andy lucey" , "britdisc" References: <20000807082727.24710.qmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: worlds Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:36:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk http://www.wuc2000.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy lucey" To: "britdisc" Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 9:27 AM Subject: worlds > can someone give me a site address for following worlds > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 12:39:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e77BYhG21288 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:34:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e77BYfO21278 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:34:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e77BYYY17103 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:34:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13LlAv-0002ji-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:34:33 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13LlAv-0004X5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:34:33 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: To ex-Cambridge Ultimate players, 1994-2000, and ex-GB Juniors. Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:34:33 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all ultimate players who played with Cambridge Ultimate or GB Juniors 1994-2000: I am afraid I have bad news. For those of you who knew James Metcalfe: James committed suicide. His Mum has asked me to pass this tragic news on to all the ultimate players who knew James. James started playing Ultimate with Strange Blue when he was about 13, in ~ 1994. He also played with the GB juniors squad for a couple of seasons. He was still playing with Strange Blue at Nationals 1999, and came to practices every month or so for much of 2000. He was loved by all who played with him; we will miss him terribly. James' Mum would like us to collect our recollections, photos and memories of James's life on paper (A4 paper please) so that a book of his life can be put together. If you would like to send your recollections by email, please visit the website: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james/ and send your contributions to me (mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk). Electronic contributions will be included in the website, and will be printed out on paper before the funeral. If you would like to send thoughts / photographs / memories by mail, here is the address: Tricia Metcalfe and Mark Shee 63 Rock Road, Cambridge, CB1 7UG 01223 563 031 Or send things to me (19 Thornton Road, Girton, Cambridge CB3 0NP) if you prefer. I will post the date of the funeral, which is likely to be after August 14th, on the website: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james/. I am really sorry to bring this bad news. yours David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 12:59:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e77BwqE24832 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:58:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e77BwpO24824 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:58:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e77Bwm819127 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:58:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:55:15 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:55:02 +0100 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Pickup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e77BwpO24825 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, One young, fairly fit (?), handler looking to play pickup at "copa cabana" in Nottingham. Happy to play the coed or open division. I want to play because I only live 25mins down the road. If any of the teams entering would like the extra player please get in touch. Thanks in advance, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 17:47:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e77Gixp17665 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:44:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e77GiwO17657 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:44:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from quasar.wds.org (fwproxy.hughsym.co.uk [193.115.216.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e77Giq817890 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:44:52 +0100 (BST) Received: by quasar.wds.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:44:46 +0100 Message-ID: <8C9F2D249B48D411ADD700508BA373221E037C@quasar.wds.org> From: Adriano Vitali To: "'britdisc'" Subject: PicK-ups for Nottingham co-ed Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:44:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We have had a few enquiries regarding pick-ups for the Nottingham "Copa-Cobana" Co-ed event. A form should soon be available on the website for those people interested in picking. A list will be compiled and depending on numbers we will either organise a pick-up team or distribute players throughout other teams. http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana.htm VITO PS. Details regarding the cocktail party will should soon be available too! ********************************************************************* One young, fairly fit (?), handler looking to play pickup at "copa cabana" in Nottingham. Happy to play the coed or open division. I want to play because I only live 25mins down the road. If any of the teams entering would like the extra player please get in touch. Thanks in advance, Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 7 18:49:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e77HmKJ26632 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:48:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e77HmIO26626 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:48:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e77HmH822036 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:48:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Mon Aug 7 10:48:00 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:48:00 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: newsletter extracts: GB teams @ WUGC2000 X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Shouldn't think I'll be doing this again, but here's the news of GB teams that appeared in Monday morning's edition of "Munchhausen", the WUGC2000 newsletter. http://www.wuc2000.org has schedules; results; each days full newsletter as a PDF; *** GB vs. Germany, Mixed, 15  4 Still disappointed after losing a tight opening game against the USA, the GB Mixed team were determined to make amends against the host nation. Both countries have brought strong, committed squads to the tournament. And as the sun baked the fields, both prepared for a long, hard game. Right from the start, GB seemed to have the aggression they were looking to use to overcome Germany, a country which , in the last few years, have developed an unshakeable habit of beating GB teams, and from whom the British expected a very tough game. However, it looked for a while as if this aggression might run out of control. After taking an early lead thanks to some lively defence followed by quick scores, GB began to miss their chances to score and the patient German offence brought them back into the game. Despite the fact that they were missing at least one key player, the Germans looked impressive through-out the first half, playing safe with the disc and moving steadily towards the zone. However, GB's desire to win was never more in evidence than when the team were defending their own goal line, and Germany were denied several crucial scoring chances by British pressure. Sideline support was loud for both teams and the atmosphere was friendly but intense. By the time half came around, GB, having found the knack of scoring again, had an 83 lead and were making life very difficult for the home team. Jack Goolden layed out twice to block passes from increasingly nervous German handlers, whilst Suze Penfold and captain Jeff Jackson made important blocks at the other end of the field. Despite the lead GB were determined not to relax, and in the second half, the fun really started. Sammy Neilson and Sue Underwood arrived pitch-side direct from the World Disc Golf Championships and immediately made an impact, Sammy getting an interception, Sue cutting so quickly that two German women almost knocked each other out! Unbelievable scoring catches from Merrick Cardew and Jane Holmes increased the pressure yet more, and by the time Rob Mitchell started clattering into players from both teams in pursuit of the disc, with one unfortunate German player receiving the full force of Rob's ample buttock in his face, the game was slipping away. In a game that was tight all the way, GB ran out 15  4 winners, but the German team were much better than the scoreline suggests. This GB team has the resolve to hang on to a lead and the desire and commitment to go far in this tournament, and were overjoyed at victory by a margin they had only dared to hope for. But the hosts also have the game and the strength throughout their squad to progress to the top eight. - Rob Mitchell GB Mixed *** GB vs USA Women Possibly a contender for game of the day, this was always going to be close. What came surprised everyone, not least the players. GB came out strong with some very safe offence and pressure D to pull out to a 50 lead after one point lasted nearly 10 minutes. They kept the pressure on to take the half 81, leaving the USA wondering what to do. They clearly sorted it out at half time as after trading a couple, they began to pull it back. First 95, then 107, and before you knew it, they were right back in the game with the score 1110 to GB. The disappearance of the GB support (to warm up for their own following games) did not help them keep their heads up, while the USA vocalists just got louder and louder as their confidence grew. The pressure was now really showing on both teams as the points became more important. USA managed to level the scores at 12 all and then kept going to take the lead for the first time and take game point 1412. GB did not give up and pulled one back before USA took the game 1513 just as time was over. Just time to mention the play of the game  Terris layout blade grab from a Ded endzone bound disc to keep GB alive. - Steve Balls --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com (mobile) 07970-903420 (office) 01737-273655 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 9 00:53:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e78NoZm08832 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:50:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e78NoVO08814 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:50:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from canonmk.canon.com.my ([202.186.173.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e78NoC825975; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:50:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from machine_[168.191.77.202] ([168.191.77.202]) by canonmk.canon.com.my (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.1a (Intl)) with SMTP id 2000080902501254:2907 ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 02:50:12 +0800 Received: from from jofecj. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 10 11:25:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7AALtr16890 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:21:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7AALsO16885 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:21:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7AALrY23343 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:21:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 10 Aug 100 11:21:45 GMT+0001 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 10 Aug 100 11:21:30 GMT+0001 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:21:22 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Disc Golf World Championships X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <659DE8E792A@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britain Qualifies for World Games!!!!!!!!! Britain will be one of six countries to be represented in the World Games next year for the Disc Golf Event. The invite was earned by our performance in the PDGA World Championships. In the Open division there were 238 competitors 101 Si Luard with -1 149 Derek Robins +10 206 Sam Neilson +28 In the Womens division there were 26 competitors 9 Sue Underwood +63 13 Ruth Steele +74 The performances of Sue, Si and Derek counted towards World Games qualification. The top male and female finishers in the 2000 BDGA Tour will represent Britain. Ken Climo regained his title to become 10 time World Champion, shooting an incredible -64 over 153 holes. He won a record $7303 Juliana Bower held off the challenge of Elaine King to take her 3rd straight World title and $1765 Including the amateurs and other age divisions there were more than 800 competitors playing 6 different courses and prize money totalled $100,000. Players were also invited to take part in field events and Ruth Steele of Britain took first place in Womens Distance. Si luard took 2nd in mini-disc golf and won $120. For listings and reports etc you can access www.disclife.com Derek *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 02476 528900 University of Warwick | | Fax 02476 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 10 22:38:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7ALZRD07916 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:35:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7ALZPO07908 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:35:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7ALZO808222 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:35:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from du-001-0166.freeuk.com ([212.126.145.166] helo=discgolf) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13Mzyy-0003f4-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:35:20 +0100 Message-ID: <003001c00315$2f4dd380$89927ed4@discgolf> From: "Derek Robins" To: Subject: Disc Golf in Metro paper Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 22:51:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C0031D.8E639640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C0031D.8E639640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If all goes as planned then there should be an article and photo on dis = golf in Monday's edition of the Metro. This a free paper distributed on = buses/underground etc. in major urban areas. Del ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C0031D.8E639640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C0031D.8E639640-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 11 17:55:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7BGrPD04122 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7BGrNO04111 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from navy.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@navy.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.49]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7BGr9Y15741 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by navy.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13NI3P-0005cl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:07 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13NI3O-0006d7-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:06 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: James Metcalfe funeral Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:53:06 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk James's funeral will be at St Andrew's church, Histon, Cambridge, at 2pm on Thursday 17th August. It will be followed by a HUGE BASH in memory of james, including marquee, food, drink, and ultimate. The bash will be at homerton college, Hills Road, Cambridge, and will go all night. Rooms can be booked at Homerton also. This information and more is on the website wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/james/ but I'm sending it out as a backup. Please email your tributes to James to mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk for inclusion in the book. ----- Congratulations to the GB teams on a great show this week. Welcome home! David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 11 19:26:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7BIP5V15283 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:25:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7BIP4O15278 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:25:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7BIP3Y19845 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:25:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A57E623F00E6; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:27:10 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.151.85] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4F6ACE0200; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:24:54 +0100 Message-ID: <006001c003c1$b352e6a0$3d9443d4@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: More Disc Sport Publicity. Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:26:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk More press: some good, some OK. August FT "How To Spend It" supplement nice double-page spread overview on Frisbee sports:- http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/press/FT.jpg (scanned) http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/press/FT.txt (just the raw text) September 'Red' magazine (fill in Leicester team gag here) Somewhat trivial plug for the new Gucci frisbee (sic) with a bit about Ultimate. I am biting my tongue to avoid saying something sexist about this as we have received several calls from Sloane Square types wanting to buy Gucci frisbees! Don't let me see anyone with one at a tournament! http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/press/RedMag.jpg The Mirror 'M Mag', tuesday 8th August. One reasonable account of disc golf: http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/press/MirrorM.jpg One smaller piece on ultimate with picture of a frisbee dog (arggg!) http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/press/MirrorM2.jpg Thanks due to Jonathan Hope for making this stuff happen. Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 07:52:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7E6l4c18044 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:47:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7E6l3O18038 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:47:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (serai@gem [137.205.224.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7E6l2Y01481 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Received: (from serai@localhost) by gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e7E6l1712653 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:47:02 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Neilson Message-Id: <200008140647.e7E6l1712653@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary --------------------------------------------- The events list can also be found at http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ---------- Saturday 26th August 2000 Mixed Series Event (2 days) @ Nottingham [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana.htm Please note that there will be 2 divisions the Mixed Tour Division and an Open Division. Contact Danni Vitali Email daniela.vitali@bhint.com BDGA Golf [B Tour] - Caledonian Open (2 days) @ Edinburgh [Golf] Contact Liam Young Phone 0131 225 2670 Saturday 9th September 2000 Glastonbury 2000 - The Gunslinger (2 days) @ Glastonbury [Outdoor Ultimate] URL: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Contact Eli Katsavras (Substance Abuse) Email elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk BDGA Golf [qualification required] - North v South (2 days) @ Quarry Park, Leamington Spa [Golf] Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 23rd September 2000 National Outdoors (2 days) @ TBA [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact Chris Hughes (Director of Competitions) Address 81 Bittern Avenue Abbeydale Gloucester GL4 4WG Email chughes@chelt.ac.uk cjhughes@talk21.com Phone 01242 543299 (work) 01452 380529 (home) BDGA Golf [A Tour] - Solstice IV (2 days) @ Burnlaw, Northumberland [Golf] Contact Oran Villiers-Stuart Phone 01434 345 359 Saturday 30th September 2000 Mixed Nationals (2 days) @ Leicester TBC [Outdoor Ultimate] Contact TBA Email TBA Phone TBA Saturday 7th October 2000 BDGA Golf [A Tour] (2 days) @ University of Essex, Colchester TBC [Golf] Contact Simon Luard Saturday 4th November 2000 BDGA Golf [qualification required] - Singles Matchplay IV (2 days) @ Ashton Court, Bristol [Golf] Featuring the BDGA Annual Dinner & Awards! Contact Andy Lucey Phone 020 8767 6766 Saturday 11th November 2000 8th Edinbugh Beginners Tournament (2 days) @ Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC. Contact Paul Eastman Address Flat 1f2 44 Warrender Park Road Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH Email pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Phone 0131 228 8337 ---------------------------------------------------------- British Ultimate Federation Disc Events Diary http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~ralf/bfdf/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 10:09:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7E979s03178 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:07:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7E977O03170 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:07:07 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:08:08 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Toby Green" Subject: British Open Report and Results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Toby Green" To: , "britdisc@csv. warwick. ac. uk (E-mail)" , "discgolf@freeuk. com (E-mail)" , "eurodisc@ira. de uka. (E-mail)" Subject: British Open Report and Results Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:00:52 +0200 Apologies for the delay. Here's a report and the results from a fine tournament, sponsored generously by Leah Healthcare. A record 76 players played the 22nd British Open at Whitcombe Farm's re-designed and expanded course. Or should I say courses, since there are now two, entirely separate, 18-double-chain basket courses at Whitcombe. I don't know if it was the news about the courses or the shocking size of the pot (USD2,000), but whatever it was, over 20 players from eight countries came to join the fifty-odd from the UK. Rich Hart drew applause and a cute prize from the Swiss for coming the furthest - all the way from the US of A!! For those familiar with Whitcombe, the New Course, now re-named Modern, was left almost untouched by the changes, losing Goolagong Dip (to the other course) and Bunny Valley Hop (now nearly unplayable due to tree growth). >From Round the Knoll the course now enters Bunny Valley playing a hole in the huge bowl to the left and then a viscious little number from the hillside to the basket position for the old Bunny Valley Hop. Not a place to fade right. (Steps are being made to re-introduce Bunny Valley Hop.) The Old Course, now re-named Ancient, takes the first seven holes from the Old, and then turns back on itself, crossing Bowling's Hill and then down through a field called Saunders, through Boar Wood (and over the stream) to the field beyond the Blasted Oak and back. For those with really long memories, this is over the route of the original course, but in reverse! So a total of 11 brand-new holes, including one of 200 metres and another of just 37metres. Many, many thanks to those who made this re-design possible and happen in time: Jester and Patrick for planting so many of the new baskets (and up-rooting the old ones!); Dan, Steve, Matt, and Sammy for getting the tees in trim and planting all the signs. (especially to Steve since he didn't even have time to stay and play!!). I'm sure there are others who helped, but those last couple of pre-tournament days were a little blurred for me. New challenges mean new formats, and I didn't really reckon we'd need the extra capacity the courses offer until next year. But with more than 72 players we were obliged to split the field, and then make a cut after two rounds. This means that not everyone played the same courses at the same time, and some not even playing the same combination of courses over 54 holes. However, the pars for the courses are the same, and at first glance, about the same level of hardness since there didn't seem to be any variation in the scores. I'm sure some stato will help us find if there is a significant difference or not. Toy is laying down rules on how the results affect the UK Tour. So the tournament itself? Well, Marco and Sammy both tried to do Tiger Woods impersonations, with Charlie, Liam and Rich showing early, and Derek hiding. Marco showed he was the real Tiger and savaged Sam in the second round and finished the day five ahead of both Sam and Liam. Marco kept burning bright into Round 3 and led by 11 from Sam and 14 from Si Luard who had been quietly pacing the leaders. A huge 20-player semi only served to build Marco's cushion and he went into the final 14 ahead of Sam. Derek had finally found some form and had climbed to fourth, with Liam taking the fifth spot. In the final, Derek caught Si for third, but Marco eased to his third British title, and his first at Whitcombe. There was a hole in the final that rather summed it all up. Eighth hole, Sam up first, fires off a monster (so we thought) and lands about 90 yards away on a bank. Liam, Derek, Si all land just shy of Sam. Up steps Marco and bang! his disc flies over the bank and on for about another thirty yards. Must be all that Belgian beer. Meanwhile in the Amateur division the Massey brothers three jostle for position behind the quiet but dominant form of Matt Pike. Like a terrier, Matt just took hold of the lead and wouldn't let go, taking his fifth Amateur title of the year. There were 21 in the Amateur Division. The Woman's defending Champion didn't suffer the humiliation of the Open Champion, and kept her crown with a solid performance in a record field of five. We need more woman to give Ruth some competition! The younger Green nephew, Edward, outlasted his elder brother, Patrick, to take the Juniors title. We need more Juniors too. What else is there to report? The sun shone, the BBQ was still singing at 3am, and two TV stations filmed the final. Final thanks to Ruth for her very courageous and kind words during the presentations. And to all you campers who left not a single piece of rubbish on the site - and I mean, nothing. All very neatly bagged up and by the bins - brilliant! You are all winners for your respect for this land and its continuing beauty. This was a memorable tournament. My Mum would have been proud of the lot of you for playing the tournament in such good spirit. She'll be with us, watching us, guiding us, for many more at Whitcombe, I'm sure. Toby From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 11:14:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7EACZ013551 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:12:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EACXO13545 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:12:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EACWY22453 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:12:32 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200008141012.e7EACWY22453@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from Kateyforth@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id 8.3b.8977e82 (15893) for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web44.aolmail.aol.com (web44.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.5]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:12:19 2000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:12:18 EDT From: Kateyforth@aol.com Subject: K & R PARTY To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody, No doubt you’re all missing each other & Germany already! But do not fear we can relive all the highs here in England----- at Bar Soho on Tuesday night from 7:30pm onwards…… Rebecca and I will be celebrating our 25th birthday, but it will also be a leaving do for me, as I am moving to Houston for 4 years. HOUSTON……..YOU’RE GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM… So I would love to see as many of you as possible before I go. Here are the details: Location: Bar Soho. London. Address: 23 Old Compton Street Date: Tuesday, August 15 Time: 7:30 onwards Dress: Anything decent or indecent. Wigs are always welcome. See Y’all there, Katey p.s. Whoever has Bex’s camera can they bring it with them….. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 15:20:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7EEIHt26114 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:18:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EEIFO26096 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:18:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EEIEY17269 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:18:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from SU-FR02120383.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.138.195]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id PAA10434 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:18:05 +0100 (BST) From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: national certificate for coaching In-Reply-To: <200008140647.e7E6l1712653@gem.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:18:14 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, does anyone know how to obtain a National Certificate for Coaching Ultimate (if such a certificate exists). Best regards, Stuart. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 15:52:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7EEoR504044 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:50:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EEoPO04036 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:50:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe43.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.79]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EEoOY20689 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:50:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:50:18 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [62.6.134.167] From: "Ali Topping" To: , "'Youth Ultimate'" Subject: Photo's From Worlds 2000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:50:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00607.54740040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2000 14:50:18.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[F68CD270:01C005FE] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00607.54740040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all those who went to Germany this year! If any of you great people who went to worlds this year and have take = photographs (doesn't matter how bizarre or crazy) and would like to = share them then you can send them to my email address as I am = concidering setting up a site for sharing these photo's. If u don't have = a scanner and are willing to send your pictures in the post then reply = and I'll try to send u my home address. The idea is that other people who did and didn't go to worlds can see = them on one site rather than having to visit 12 or 13 sites to see them = all. Thanks a lot=20 Ali Topping Gb Junior #99 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00607.54740040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To all those who went to Germany this=20 year!
 
If any of you great people who went to = worlds this=20 year and have take photographs (doesn't matter how bizarre or crazy) and = would=20 like to share them then you can send them to my email address as I am=20 concidering setting up a site for sharing these photo's. If u don't have = a scanner and are willing to send your pictures in the post then = reply and=20 I'll try to send u my home address.
 
The idea is that other people who did = and didn't go=20 to worlds can see them on one site rather than having to visit 12 or 13 = sites to=20 see them all.
 
Thanks a lot
 
Ali Topping
Gb Junior
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C00607.54740040-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 21:53:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7EKpEM24717 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:51:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EKpDO24709 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:51:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7EKov809898 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC3544F70106; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:53:09 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.150.43] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id ABA6139301EE; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:50:46 +0100 Message-ID: <031e01c00631$954a1bc0$2b9643d4@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Advice needed Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:51:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Folks, I have completed the majority of the work for the British Ultimate Association proposal but still need some help with one major aspect. I expect there might be a free year's membership available for someone willing to contribute their time! I need someone (perhaps a lawyer?) who understands constitutions and democracy for organisations like ours. Essentially, I want to know the best way to enable one-member one-vote elections without requiring the whole country to attend the AGM. I realise this requires some sort of proxy system but I need some more solid pointers on rewriting the constitution to acheive this. I also need to know if there are any significant constitutional changes required under English law in relation to employing staff. I know what is required of us from a tax/NI point of view but I just want to get the legal side up to scratch. Please contact me if you have any ideas or know anyone who could help me out. Cheers Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 14 22:37:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7ELaUJ00090 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:36:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7ELaTO00081 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:36:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7ELaS812362 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:36:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 13ORu7-00040q-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:36:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:58:27 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: FWD: London Ultimate MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone help... Thu, 10 Aug 2000, by dendawg ; Subject: London Ultimate >I'm a student who'll be spending a year at the London School of >Economics, and want to continue playing while i'm out there-I've >been unable to contact the LSE team (adam keen's email on the >british ultimate site hasn't responded, ever) so i was wondering >if anyone had any contact info for either LSE teams or the >University of London team(one and the same, as i understand it). >Also, if you have info on pickup in the heart of london >itself(I'll be near russel square) I'd apreciate it. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 15 12:05:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7FB1Va09281 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7FB1TO09275 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7FB1M828319 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (user-01-056.oneview.net [62.172.177.56] (may be forged)) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id EOJ11806; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:11 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:44:03 +0100 Message-ID: <155BD71A106DD411BC2700A0C9AD4BA3404D@NTS40BDC> From: Ben Peek To: Britdisc Subject: Nottingham Co-ed - Last Chance for entries Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:43:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Sorry if you're bored of hearing about this, but just in case anyone's come back from the worlds and hasn't heard about the Copa Cobana tournament - the 3rd National co-ed event in Nottingham on 26th - 28th August 2000, here are the details. This will be a really fun tournament with plenty of other activities (beer race, hacky volleyball, Saturday night party, etc.). We've got a couple of teams coming from the continent too, just to add to the party atmosphere. There's camping available on site and there will be plenty of food available on site. Check out the web site at http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana.htm There's a space for a pick up team (more women needed!) and there's a hat tournament on Monday too. There is still time to enter a team, so get in touch with me if you're interested (is anyone from Wage out there?). Cheers, Ben SuperFly benp@penninehealthcare.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 15 12:42:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7FBdfM16066 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:39:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7FBddO16059 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:39:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from mc-qout4.whowhere.com (mc-qout4.whowhere.com [209.185.123.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7FBdc801955 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:39:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared2-mail.whowhere.com; Tue Aug 15 04:39:25 2000 To: "BritDisc" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:39:25 0000 From: "Wayne Retter" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: FWD: London Ultimate X-Sender-Ip: 62.172.72.66 Organization: England E-mail (http://www.email.england.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Remember to take the NO SPAM out of the email address if you want to contact dendawg Wayne On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:58:27 Wayne Retter wrote: > >Can anyone help... > >Thu, 10 Aug 2000, >by dendawg ; > Subject: London Ultimate >>I'm a student who'll be spending a year at the London School of >>Economics, and want to continue playing while i'm out there-I've >>been unable to contact the LSE team (adam keen's email on the >>british ultimate site hasn't responded, ever) so i was wondering >>if anyone had any contact info for either LSE teams or the >>University of London team(one and the same, as i understand it). >>Also, if you have info on pickup in the heart of london >>itself(I'll be near russel square) I'd apreciate it. Thanks. --- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com (mobile) 07970-903420 (office) 01737-273655 __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 15 21:00:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7FJusS12211 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:56:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7FJuqO12204 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:56:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7FJul812497 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:56:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from charlesm (charles.mead.easynet.co.uk [195.40.244.78]) by chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EF03F86F3; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:56:42 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Charlie Mead" From: "Charlie Mead" To: "Derek Robins" , Subject: Re: Disc Golf World Championships Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:16:47 +0100 Message-ID: <01c006ed$5b753e40$4ef428c3@charlesm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well done all those who went to USA for the PDGA Worlds and helping GB qualify for World Games. However, I think I must be mistaken in deciding who goes. I thought it was the best finisher at Worlds but derek says it is the Tour winner. If this is the case then I think we need to reconsider. Simon beat Derek by nearly 50 places and 11 shots and Sammy by 100 places + and 29 shots indicating that he performs well at Worlds level. Simon might also win the tour, as might Sammy or Derek, but it might be better to have this discussion now. Charlie Mead -----Original Message----- From: Derek Robins To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 10 August 2000 11:29 Subject: Disc Golf World Championships Britain Qualifies for World Games!!!!!!!!! Britain will be one of six countries to be represented in the World Games next year for the Disc Golf Event. The invite was earned by our performance in the PDGA World Championships. In the Open division there were 238 competitors 101 Si Luard with -1 149 Derek Robins +10 206 Sam Neilson +28 In the Womens division there were 26 competitors 9 Sue Underwood +63 13 Ruth Steele +74 The performances of Sue, Si and Derek counted towards World Games qualification. The top male and female finishers in the 2000 BDGA Tour will represent Britain. Ken Climo regained his title to become 10 time World Champion, shooting an incredible -64 over 153 holes. He won a record $7303 Juliana Bower held off the challenge of Elaine King to take her 3rd straight World title and $1765 Including the amateurs and other age divisions there were more than 800 competitors playing 6 different courses and prize money totalled $100,000. Players were also invited to take part in field events and Ruth Steele of Britain took first place in Womens Distance. Si luard took 2nd in mini-disc golf and won $120. For listings and reports etc you can access www.disclife.com Derek *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins | | D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office | | Tel 02476 528900 University of Warwick | | Fax 02476 524573 Coventry CV4 7AL | | Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 16 09:23:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7G8KuI20618 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:20:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7G8KsO20610 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:20:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7G8KkY17646; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:20:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 16 Aug 100 09:20:44 GMT+0001 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 16 Aug 100 09:20:13 GMT+0001 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, eurodisc@ira.uka.de Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:20:08 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: World Games Representation X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <6E7DC6D72A1@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I received notice from WFDF on which nations have qualified to take part in the World Games in Akita, Japan next year. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 18 16:08:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7IF67h15468 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:06:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7IF65g15455 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:06:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7IF64Y01356 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:06:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (user-01-056.oneview.net [62.172.177.56] (may be forged)) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ERP00567; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:06:00 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:43:37 +0100 Message-ID: <155BD71A106DD411BC2700A0C9AD4BA34093@NTS40BDC> From: Ben Peek To: Britdisc Subject: Mohawk Mwncii Magic - where are you? Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:43:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, Can someone from Mohawk Mwncii Magic please contact me regarding the Co-ed tournament in Notitngham on 26th -28th August. I've not been able to get in touch with Nicole and I need to know if you're coming. Please reply to benp@penninehealthcare.co.uk as I'm not on Britdisc. Cheers, Ben SuperFly From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 18 21:02:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7IJxBo23545 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:59:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7IJxAg23540 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:59:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f239.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.239]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7IJx9Y17016 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:59:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:58:54 -0700 Received: from 62.7.180.201 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.7.180.201] From: "Dan Watters" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: London Ultimate Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:58:54 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Aug 2000 19:58:54.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCC8CFF0:01C0094E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, My name's Dan and I'm a Discaholic. Just wondering where I can get a game of pickup in London. I tried Clapham Common on a Tuesday eve, but alas wandered around throwing the frisbee to myself. Would actually love to join a team. Read on the website that there's a tournie in Regents but it's closed. Are you sure? Anybody need an extra player...? Look anything will do. I played back in Australia, but haven't played in 8 months. Am getting desperate, haha. Drop me a line at dan_watters@hotmail.com or call 0208 452 1194. Thanks Dan ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 21 12:29:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7LBPiY17773 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:25:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LBPgg17763 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:25:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LBPf821923 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:25:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (user-01-056.oneview.net [62.172.177.56] (may be forged)) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ESQ00147; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:25:28 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:11:21 +0100 Message-ID: <155BD71A106DD411BC2700A0C9AD4BA3409C@NTS40BDC> From: Ben Peek To: Britdisc Subject: Nottingham Co-ed Tour 3 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:11:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc. These are the 16 teams registered for the Co-ed Tour 3 in Nottingham on 26th - 28th August 2000. Chevron Action Flash KUPA Drop Dead Gorgeous Calimocho Mild Mannered Janitors Blue Arse Flies Mud Culture Sneeekys Aurora Borialis Mohawk Mwncii Magic Red Strange Blue SuperFly OUF (Tours, France) Jet Set (Leuven, Belgium) Pick up team Unfortunately we are unable to accept any more teams. If you are interested in playing for the pick up team, please contact Vito at adrianov@wds.org or register on the tournament web site (see below) Directions, maps and other information can be found at http://www.super-fly.co.uk/copa_cobana.htm Cheers, Ben SuperFly home: 0115 841 4194 mobile: 07971 699702 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 21 14:28:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7LDQ2k07158 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:26:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LDQ1g07152 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:26:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (web115.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7LDQ0813281 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:26:00 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 24709 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Aug 2000 13:25:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20000821132557.24708.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.11.148] by web115.yahoomail.com; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:25:57 PDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah Eckman Subject: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, f6uk@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Some ulty news from abroad...this is slightly unrelated to britdisc, but it's a good article, except for the no-skills-needed comment! Bye, sarah f6uk > To view the entire article, go to > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60972-2000Aug20.html > > Ultimately, It's Just a Lotta Fun > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 21 15:20:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7LEIYw15926 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:18:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LEIWg15918 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:18:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate01.e-mail.com (eugate01.e-mail.com [194.196.143.93]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LEIRY14655 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:18:32 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id OAA103026 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:17:57 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:19:11 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBF38DF8@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:19:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Eckman [mailto:seckman1@yahoo.com] Sent: 21 August 2000 14:26 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; f6uk@egroups.com Subject: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post Hi all, Some ulty news from abroad...this is slightly unrelated to britdisc, but it's a good article, except for the no-skills-needed comment! Bye, sarah f6uk > To view the entire article, go to > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60972-2000Aug20.html > > Ultimately, It's Just a Lotta Fun > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 21 17:52:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7LGnsd19229 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:49:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LGnrg19223 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:49:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (IDENT:root@[195.153.207.133]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LGnqY29937 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:49:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from fetchmail.com (IDENT:web@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk [195.153.207.133]) by 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01404 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:49:50 +0100 Message-Id: <200008211649.RAA01404@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) From: "Ben Ravilious" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:49:50 0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What image first attracted you to Ultimate? Was it 1) A highly competitive team sport played by a dedicated band of athletes or.... 2) A laid back 'alternative' mixed sport played mainly for the fun and social aspect rather than competitively (and with a frisbee for heaven's sake!). I bet 2 is the most common answer for most people - in which case the article may actually be quite helpful. I have to agree though - I wish it did mention the competitive side a bit more. I guess 2 appeals to non-sporty people (who have the potential to discover sport) and 2 appeals to sporty people who in all probability are already happily playing a different sport! Don't knock the 'not-serious' image - it is one of ultimate's main selling points. If you want to recruit athletes you have to start in schools like all the other sports - I wish we could do this more. Ben > And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarah Eckman [mailto:seckman1@yahoo.com] > Sent: 21 August 2000 14:26 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; f6uk@egroups.com > Subject: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post > > > Hi all, > > Some ulty news from abroad...this is slightly > unrelated to britdisc, but it's a good article, except > for the no-skills-needed comment! > > Bye, > sarah > f6uk > > > > To view the entire article, go to > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60972-2000Aug20.html > > > > Ultimately, It's Just a Lotta Fun > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. > This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which > is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication > and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication > in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Aug 21 20:16:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7LJEto07709 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:14:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LJEsg07704 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:14:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f93.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.93]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7LJEr815911 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:14:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:14:46 -0700 Received: from 195.92.67.72 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.72] From: "Paul Kett" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:14:46 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2000 19:14:46.0802 (UTC) FILETIME=[11D3F720:01C00BA4] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have to agree that the idea of ultimate as not such a serious sport is what attracts most people to take part. I'm currently trying to think of ways to encourage freshers to take up ultimate as opposed to joining one of the many other serious sports clubs at leicester uni and it seems to me the only way to compete with these clubs and to attract people is to appear as something different which ultimate is, however it is still a competive sport like any other. The main difference is that on the whole it is played by people who don't think winning is the only thing that matters and that's not such a bad thing is it? Paul >From: "Ben Ravilious" >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >Subject: RE: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:49:50 0100 > >What image first attracted you to Ultimate? > >Was it 1) A highly competitive team sport played by a dedicated band of >athletes >or.... > >2) A laid back 'alternative' mixed sport played mainly for the fun and >social >aspect rather than competitively (and with a frisbee for heaven's sake!). > >I bet 2 is the most common answer for most people - in which case the >article >may actually be quite helpful. I have to agree though - I wish it did >mention >the competitive side a bit more. > >I guess 2 appeals to non-sporty people (who have the potential to discover >sport) and 2 appeals to sporty people who in all probability are already >happily >playing a different sport! > >Don't knock the 'not-serious' image - it is one of ultimate's main selling >points. If you want to recruit athletes you have to start in schools like >all >the other sports - I wish we could do this more. > >Ben > > > > And they say there's no such thing as bad publicity. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sarah Eckman [mailto:seckman1@yahoo.com] > > Sent: 21 August 2000 14:26 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; f6uk@egroups.com > > Subject: Ultimate frisbee makes the Washington Post > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Some ulty news from abroad...this is slightly > > unrelated to britdisc, but it's a good article, except > > for the no-skills-needed comment! > > > > Bye, > > sarah > > f6uk > > > > > > > To view the entire article, go to > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60972-2000Aug20.html > > > > > > Ultimately, It's Just a Lotta Fun > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual >and >not necessarily the company. > > This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It >may >contain information which > > is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you >are not >the intended recipient > > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying >of >this communication > > and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this >communication > > > in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email >postmaster@roomuw.co.uk > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 22 19:18:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7MIECi01972 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:14:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7MIEBg01961 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:14:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7MIEAY14714 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:14:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13RIYV-0008yk-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:13:53 +0100 Message-ID: <17ZQQMAe5Yo5Ew5S@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:17:34 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Nationals: Still needs a host/venue! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Not a message about which anyone should "Panic", more a cause for "Concern"... I spoke to Chris Hughes (BUF Director of Competitions) last night, and was informed that, despite hard work from several people (thanks for your efforts!), BUF Nationals is still lacking a host and venue. Not a great state of affairs with only a month before the planned date! Chris is currently taking some time out from Ultimate to complete his MPhil. (so won't be at Nottingham this w/e) but expects to be back in the swing of things in a fortnight or so. In the meantime, anyone with potential venues, and maybe a willingness to host the event (assistance can be provided) should go contact their venue and determine what facilities are available and at what cost, and be prepared to drop Chris a line. As a minimum, the venue needs to be able to cope with 16 teams, so 6 level, cut and lined pitches (120yds long x 40 yds wide, plus "safety space" of ideally 10yds between/around each pitch - so that's longer but narrower than a soccer pitch) are essential, 8 preferable, for an all- day Saturday and all-day Sunday booking. On-site water taps are also essential. It is also preferred that there are on-site showers, some form of shelter from inclement weather, and provision of food/refreshments. Get looking! (We'll check out the Hitchin option as well... but we can't guarantee that it is possible, and we're under the impression that the players would prefer somewhere a little less windswept!) It's an ideal opportunity to make some money for your club, or yourself. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter on behalf of Chris Hughes From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 23 10:36:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7N9Wmt21543 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:32:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7N9Wlg21538 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:32:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from server-12.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (pool.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7N9WkY11553 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:32:46 +0100 (BST) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23745 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2000 09:31:04 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-12.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 23 Aug 2000 09:31:04 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:32:22 +0100 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B3B2@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'BritDisc '" Subject: RE: Nationals: Still needs a host/venue! Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:32:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >We'll check out the Hitchin option as well... but we can't guarantee >that it is possible, and we're under the impression that the players >would prefer somewhere a little less windswept! What! I didn't realise favouritism towards UTI extended this high into the Ultim8 committee. Surely Britain deserves National Champions who can throw a disk more than 10 yards. The 'Hitchin for Nationals' and 'Kick sleaze out of Ultim8' campaigns both start here! ;-) PS Lee's sidearm is exempt from any disrespect intended in this mail. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 23 14:29:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7NDQT401121 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:26:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7NDQQg01098 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:26:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7NDQ7Y11688 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:26:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13RaXV-000FZF-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:25:57 +0100 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 13RaXU-000OdD-01; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:25:57 +0100 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:22:16 +0100 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Britdisc' (E-mail)" Subject: Worlds photos Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:22:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if there are photos from Worlds up on the web yet. The official site is utter pants. Max Fever 35 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 23 14:47:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7NDjni06072 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:45:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7NDjlg06066 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:45:47 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:46:59 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: WUGC 2000 Ultimate Spirit Ranking Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk [I couldn't resist repsonding to the Dobyns 'Brit bashing' on rec.sport.disc ... sorry everyone! Sammy] Kenneth44 wrote: "we had three goals in mind when we went to worlds: have fun, pat asses, win the tournament. we achieved them all. because we were concerned that the spirit award might become a distraction, we made it all but impossible for us to win by giving every team we played a perfect 10, regardless of how many preposterous foul calls they made. we even gave a perfect 10 to the team with the player who spat on one of our players. the british team that won the award benefitted from playing us twice, and getting two perfect 10's. to give you an idea of their spirit in our games, when told we would be giving them a 10 the scorekeeper replied, "really?" with a look of disbelief on his face. consume all election results carefully. they don't always mean what you think." This is quite a coincidence - GB Mixed (Co-ed) also spotted that the Worlds organisers were attempting to stifle creativity by imposing a SOTG scoring system on the players (they even tried to add a fail-safe using the scorekeepers). Our approach was similar to yours except we awarded all teams a perfect ZERO. We seem to have inadvertently assisted the you in your goal of not winning the SOTG award - a happy bonus was that we ended up winning the SOTG award ourselves! If only you had told us earlier about your fear of winning the SOTG award, we could have provided the reassurance to allow you to cast your spirit votes in a grown-up fashion. A word of warning to the well-meaning organisers: 'consume SOTG election results carefully. even the rules of fair play can be bent.' sn From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 23 23:47:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7NMinx24337 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:44:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7NMilg24332 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:44:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f94.hotmail.com [209.185.131.157]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7NMikY01694 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:44:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:44:40 -0700 Received: from 193.113.57.167 by lw1fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:44:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.113.57.167] From: "leigh simmons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: brighton -> nottingham Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:44:39 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2000 22:44:40.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8D64270:01C00D53] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk can any of you nice people from brighton offer me a lift to nottingham this weekend? leigh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 09:25:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7O8DQj20265 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:13:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7O8DPg20257 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:13:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7O8DOY02796 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:13:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vlsilab2.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.142] helo=vlsilab2) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Rs7V-0007aA-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:12:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:11:49 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@vlsilab2 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Washington Post?! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > FW: WashingtonPost.com is running a survey on which sport should > be added to the next Olympic games... > > Ultimate Frisbee was only recently added this morning so currently > we are less popular than bowling. > > A large amount of votes for Ultimate will lead to absolutely nothing, > but if you're reading this now, then I'm sure you have > nothing better to do. > > So go here... > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/olyadd_survey.htm > and let's knock Rugby out of the water. Better make that water > skiing. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 09:47:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7O8hjK24311 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:43:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7O8hhg24303 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:43:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7O8hW826932 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:43:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.0.143] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000722841; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:44:43 +0100 Message-ID: <39A4E006.DEB287A1@deepend.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:48:12 +0100 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc CC: sneeekys@egroups.com Subject: Re: [sneeekys] FW: [SFUL] Vote for Ultimate! References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000823154230.030c8370@maxham.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Looks like the word got out! At the last count Ultimate had 87.7% (3359 votes) of the vote! It's closest rival was Rugby with 4.4% (167 votes). Go on, have a click and make us look more popular than anyone else. :) Jes* Mark Maxham wrote: > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Johhny Appleseed (by way of mathieau@yahoo.com (SFUL Registration > >>Coordinator)) [mailto:mathieau@yahoo.com] > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:11 AM > >>To: SFUL@egroups.com > >>Subject: [SFUL] Vote for Ultimate! > >> > >> > >>WashingtonPost.com is running a survey on which sport should be added to the > >>next Olympic games... > >>Ultimate Frisbee was only recently added this morning so currently we are > >>less popular than bowling. > >> > >>A large amount of votes for Ultimate will lead to absolutely nothing, but if > >>you're reading this now, then I'm sure you have nothing better to do. > >> > >>So go here... > >>http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/olyadd_survey.htm > >> > >>and let's knock Rugby out of the water. Better make that water skiing. > >> > >>Dan > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- How long does it take a new flavor of Gatorade to get from > initial brainstorm to your store shelf? You'd be surprised. > Check out the details at gatorade.com. > http://click.egroups.com/1/7607/8/_/4491/_/967070603/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------|e>- -- Jester | Usability Designer Deepend | 44-46 Scrutton Street | London | EC2A 4QL T +44 (0)20 7247 2999 | F +44 (0)20 7247 9996 E jester@deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.com Number 1: Global New Media Creative Agency 2000 - AdAge From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 11:36:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OAYDX15377 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OAYBg15370 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OAYBY21407 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from eis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:07 +0100 Received: from lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk (lang-ah38.lang.bris.ac.uk [137.222.156.167]) by eis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17946; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:33:08 +0100 (BST) From: rafael freire Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:33:00 +0100 To: "Todd C. Kleckner" Subject: Re: Washington Post?! (fwd) Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Build (55) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:11:49 +0100 (BST) "Todd C. Kleckner" wrote: > > A large amount of votes for Ultimate will lead to > absolutely nothing, Perhaps, and it looks like we've reached a suspiciously large nunber of votes already. However, viewing it optimistically, since the WashingtonPost clearly don't know how to carry out a survey, I'm hoping they won't know how to interpret the results either and conclude an overwhelming majority of their readership want ultimate in the olympics. I'm not about to write to them to put them right. Rafi (supporter of Hitchin for Nationals Campaign) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 12:24:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OBMJO23520 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:22:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OBMHg23513 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:22:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from proxy1.richardsbutler.com (mail.richardsbutler.com [195.152.50.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7OBMG815311 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:22:16 +0100 (BST) Received: by RBLON05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:22:50 +0100 Message-ID: <92B07CDC3278D411B5E100005A410C9A38ABA9@RBLON04> From: "Stanwell-Smith, Helen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Todd C. Kleckner'" Subject: RE: Washington Post?! (fwd) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:22:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just took a look at the site - Ultimate now has 88.3% of the vote! Nice one! (Rugby has only 4%!!) > ---------- > From: Todd C. Kleckner[SMTP:tck@elec.gla.ac.uk] > Sent: 24 August 2000 09:11 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Washington Post?! (fwd) > > > > > > FW: WashingtonPost.com is running a survey on which sport should > > be added to the next Olympic games... > > > > Ultimate Frisbee was only recently added this morning so currently > > we are less popular than bowling. > > > > A large amount of votes for Ultimate will lead to absolutely nothing, > > but if you're reading this now, then I'm sure you have > > nothing better to do. > > > > So go here... > > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/olyadd_survey.htm > > and let's knock Rugby out of the water. Better make that water > > skiing. > > > RICHARDS BUTLER INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Authorised by the Law Society to conduct investment business. The partners of Richards Butler are either solicitors or registered foreign lawyers. A full list of partners and their professional qualifications is available at Beaufort House, 15 St Botolph Street, London, EC3A 7EE, England. Further information can be found at http://www.richardsbutler.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 13:11:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OC99800591 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OC97g00585 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from scanner.tesco.net (spare6.btinternet.com [194.73.73.70] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OC97820266 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from dialup.62-172-23-130.tesco.net ([62.172.23.130] helo=ianstebb) by scanner.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13Rvoc-0001by-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:02 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c00dc4$a22bbb60$8217ac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed series update Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:01:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all- sorry for such a long delay on getting this update out. Mixed Nationals will be held in Leicester September 30-October 1. Contact details will follow. BTW- I have it on good authority that the band lined up for the party is fairly impressive. Anyway- the following teams have already qualified (listed in particular order): Wage Chevron AF KUPA Blue Arse Flies Drop Dead Gorgeous Mild Mannered Janitors Calimocho Strange Blue Mud Culture More Mild Mannered Janitors The following teams will qualify after the Nottingham tournament, regardless of their results there: Red Superfly Sneeekys Other teams may qualify based on results this weekend. Nancy Red From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 13:11:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OC9Ik00627 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OC9Hg00619 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from scanner.tesco.net (spare6.btinternet.com [194.73.73.70] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OC9G820286 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from dialup.62-172-23-130.tesco.net ([62.172.23.130] helo=ianstebb) by scanner.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13Rvoe-0001by-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:09:04 +0100 Message-ID: <002701c00dc4$a330a840$8217ac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed rosters Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:11:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK- I didn't go to Leeds, and then I made the mistake of relying on the Royal Mail to actually do their job and deliver an envelope. As a result, rosters from Event 2, held in Leeds, have gone missing. If you are planning to play at Nationals, you may need to re-submit the names from Event 2 to me. You need only do this if: 1. You didn't play at event 1 in Cambridge AND you won't be playing at event 3 in Nottingham. This 'you' includes both teams in general and individual players. Basically, if the only place you're going to have played before Nationals is Leeds, and you are coming to Nationals, then I need to know about you. 2. You (the team) want any qualification points you may have earned for rostering first-time players. For example- you could have finished dead last at Leeds BUT have brought 10 new players (who have never played a tournament before). If this (practically impossible) situation occured, you would have enough points to qualify for Nationals. If you're in doubt, please drop me a line. I don't want this cock-up to prevent anyone from playing Nationals if they have legitimately qualified. Sorry about this little problem. See you in Nottingham. (Yes, I'm going so- you'd better have those rosters ready!!!) Nancy Red From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 13:23:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OCLxG02848 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:21:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OCLvg02838 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:21:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OCLp821819 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:21:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (Mailer 3.1); Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:21:48 +0100 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21525; Thu, 24 Aug 00 13:21:48 BST Message-Id: <10008241221.AA21525@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:21:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Mark Jefferson X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone has present contact details for Mark can they let me know, or of course if Mark is out there, can you get in touch, Pete Connor 01908 654637 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 13:30:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OCTrN04277 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:29:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OCTpg04267 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:29:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from mv.egroups.com (mv.egroups.com [208.50.144.81]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7OCTnY04812 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:29:50 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-Return: sboimard@chubb.com Received: from [10.1.10.124] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Aug 2000 12:29:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:29:37 -0000 From: sboimard@chubb.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Lift London - Nottingham Message-ID: <8o34fh+pfpp@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 12.20.41.4 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I know it's quite late but, does anybody know anyone that could give me a lift to Nottingham ? Thanks, Sonia From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 15:59:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OEvuw02396 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:57:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OEvsg02389 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:57:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OEvrY23415 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:57:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13RyS3-0001MR-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:57:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Worlds photos Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:02:15 +0100 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "'Britdisc' (E-mail)" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Does anyone know if there are photos from Worlds up on the web yet. >The official site is utter pants. > >Max >Fever 35 Hi Max and all I'm working on it. I have a stack of pics of both GB and others. Waiting for finals shots to come back. Will keep you posted. Cheers Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 19:06:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OI4Pq29804 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:04:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OI4Ng29797 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:04:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from resolver.wilcom.com (resolver.wilcom.com [169.206.12.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OI4MY13015 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:04:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from wcghoue001.wilex.wilcom.com (wcghoue001.wilcom.com [172.29.15.100]) by resolver.wilcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09029 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wcghoue001.wilcom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:01:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Rowan, Michael" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Poll: new sport for 2004 Olympics Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:12:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey everyone- The washigton post has a poll asking what sport should be added for 2004 olympics. Go to this website to vote. Ultimate was a late entry but you can see how it is faring vs aerobics, bowling, etc. "What Sport Would You Add to the Olympic Program? If you were the czar of the Olympics which sport would you add to the program for Athens in 2004?" http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/polls/olyadd_survey.htm From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Aug 24 22:53:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7OLmRn27849 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:48:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OLmPg27841 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:48:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7OLmP809973 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:48:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13S4rC-000N58-0Y for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:48:19 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:46:48 +0100 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Theresa Travison Subject: FWD: search References: <65B583DBD4BED311A3C900508B6F7D6C5BBBE6@mailsv05.colgate.edu> In-Reply-To: <65B583DBD4BED311A3C900508B6F7D6C5BBBE6@mailsv05.colgate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Theresa Travison wrote to the Fluid Druids with the following query: > >Hi. I play ultimate in the US, but last semester I visited the >England and practiced with a team there. Now I'm trying to get in >touch with someone/anyone who plays ultimate in the Leeds/Bradford area. >Know of anyone? > >Thanks, >Terry Please reply to Terry with any assistance... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Aug 25 16:47:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7PFfc513105 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:41:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7PFfZg13093 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:41:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7PFfZ824305 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:41:35 +0100 (BST) Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id QAA11707; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:40:53 +0100 From: Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa11067; Fri, 25 Aug 00 16:40:05 +0100 Received: from uk-emamta003.ema.pwcinternal.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FZU004I7U7IMW@olive.uk.pw.com> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:40:34 +0100 (BST) Received: by uk-emamta003.ema.pwcinternal.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 80256946.0055DA99 ; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:37:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:20:19 +0100 Subject: European Clubs 2001 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <80256946.0055D984.00@uk-emamta003.ema.pwcinternal.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: EMEA-UK@INTL Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here are the initial basic details for the EUCC 2001. The number of pitches, teams per division etc. including whether there will be guest teams from North America and/or Japan are subject to change. Date: June 11th to 17th, 2001 Location: Blsany, Czech Republich (about 70km west of Prague). The site is a centre for Czech Football and they expect to have 12 and 24 pitches. Teams per division Open 32 Women 24 Masters 12 Junior 8 Mixed 12 Games will be to 17 points or 90 minutes, cap of 2; max 21 points As yet we do not know how many teams GB will be offered in each division, and except for Open I am unaware at this time how these places will be offered to teams. This information was relayed at the WFDF Congress at the recent World Championships in Heilbron Germany. I will send more details of the congress out as soon as I have some information requested from the WFDF. Ian Stebbing BUF Treasurer ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 09:52:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7T8nOD02081 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:49:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7T8nMb02058 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:49:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f279.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.154]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7T86XY14692 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:06:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:06:26 -0700 Received: from 129.31.1.159 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:06:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.31.1.159] From: "Auralyn MacKenzie" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A little leaving thing Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:06:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2000 08:06:26.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[07A79580:01C01190] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey All! Didn't really want to use Britdisc to get the word out, but some people I expected to see didn't come to Nottingham and my address book is woefully inadequate for getting in touch with other frisbee fans. Anyway, just thought I'd extend an invite out for a leaving do (mine as well as Sonya's) for Wednesday, August 30. That's tomorrow. Place is Freud's, 198 Shaftesbury Ave, WC2. Everyone is welcome. Some of us will be there for, oh 6:30ish, so come whenever. And pass this along if you know someone who's not on Britdisc or who won't check it before tomorrow. Oh, and if I don't see ya, have a good one! Cheers, Aura _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 09:52:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7T8o2502237 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:50:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7T8o0b02220 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:50:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from ml.egroups.com (ml.egroups.com [208.50.144.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7T76sY05271 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:06:54 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-Return: alirutty@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by ml.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Aug 2000 20:19:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:19:42 -0000 From: alirutty@hotmail.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The Gunslinger (F.A.O. Eli) Message-ID: <8oehgu+lkh4@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 195.92.67.77 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello to Eli or whoever is organising the Gunslinger, Ali from the bears here. Your e-mail address I have for you isn't responding so I thought I'd try this. Can the Bears still have a team at the tournie? We definitely have enough players interested. Could you please e-mail back asap so I can start organising players transport. Cheers. Ali From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 10:36:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7T9ZGR22330 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:35:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7T9ZEb22311 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:35:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from aloe.us.pw.com (aloe.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.123]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e7T9Z8Y29309 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:35:09 +0100 (BST) Received: by aloe.us.pw.com; id FAA17697; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 05:28:02 -0400 From: Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by aloe.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016542; Tue, 29 Aug 00 05:27:00 -0400 Received: from uk-emamta003.ema.pwcinternal.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0G0100FMPRWCUT@olive.uk.pw.com> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:33:53 +0100 (BST) Received: by uk-emamta003.ema.pwcinternal.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id 8025694A.00344324 ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:30:50 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:30:06 +0100 Subject: Re: European Clubs 2001 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <8025694A.003438E8.00@uk-emamta003.ema.pwcinternal.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: EMEA-UK@INTL Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have had a number of questions regarding my mail about European Clubs. 1) The date (June 11th - 17th) is what is stated on the documentation I was given, I checked to make sure that the 11th was in fact a monday as stated so I assume this is correct. 2) I know nothing about the guest spots that may be offered to non-European teams or what divisions they may be in. 3) The number of pitches, I think, will depend upon the final number of clubs entering the event. I sorry but I don't know any more than that. Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 13:25:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7TCNEl21515 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:23:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TCNDb21507 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:23:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TCNC815848 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:23:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from vlsilab2.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.142] helo=vlsilab2) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13TkOg-0000MI-00; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:21:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:21:19 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@vlsilab2 To: alirutty@hotmail.com cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Gunslinger contact details In-Reply-To: <8oehgu+lkh4@eGroups.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Ali, and anyone else interested in Glastonbury- Our fault - computer problems - from now on please use the substance-abuse@egroups.com address for Glastonbury queries. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 16:42:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7TFeIP07164 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:40:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TFeGb07155 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:40:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from receipt.tesco.net (receipt.tesco.net [194.73.73.175] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TFeG808995 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:40:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.68.125] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13Tjut-0003qZ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:50:59 +0100 Message-ID: <003401c011af$f2e644a0$7d448cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed rosters- last chance Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:53:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is your last chance to get your rosters updated for Mixed Nationals. As of now- only BAF, Drop Dead Gorgeous, and Red have checked that their rosters are complete and correct for all three events. As for everyone else, I only have confirmed rosters for Event 1 (except Chevron, who updated their Event 2 roster). Rosters cannot be updated after September1- because rosters for Nationals will need to be posted on September 12. I will be checking that players have actually played, so please get me the correct info or you might have players who will not be able to play at Nationals. Thanks, nancy red From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 18:49:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7THmQ626187 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:48:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7THmOb26177 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:48:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7THmNY10204 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:48:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A8013760246; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:50:57 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.152.53] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7601C6008E; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:48:16 +0100 Message-ID: <007101c011e1$a2fa4b80$359843d4@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Red at Leicester City Football Club Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:48:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Showbiz stars, We (Red that is) have been invited to run a demo ultimate game in front of several thousand spectators at Leicester City's 'Family Night' on Monday 11th September. Details yet to be finalised but we are toying with the idea of inviting another team to oppose us on the night. Any potential opposition must be reasonably photogenic (i.e. have a credible team strip), have a non-offensive, non-stupid team name and be mixed. We would also prefer a team purporting to be from a particular town or city as this will make more sense than any team name! You will need to arrive at Filbert Street by 6:30pm latest. The game is likely to only last 20 minutes maximum during a warm-up interval period and in all probability will be five-a-side. If you think your team fits the bill then email and tell us why and we'll consider you. If we get a response we like, we'll invite you over. R.O.A.R. Thanks Ben Red 10 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 22:45:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7TLgp625110 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:42:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TLgob25099 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:42:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TLgn802248 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:42:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from tot-wg.proxy.aol.com (tot-wg.proxy.aol.com [205.188.196.1]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA18785 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from addie (AC892F93.ipt.aol.com [172.137.47.147]) by tot-wg.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e7TLgde14575 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: Subject: Adam Keen has another Bright Idea Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:42:26 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, First, I think I need to apologize to someone at the LSE for not giving Britdisc my new address (this it be, in acase anyone is interested) Although I am sure that the right address is on the BUF teamfinder lists and the UPA teamfinder lists so .... In any case, if the LSE-er is still interested then I am definitely looking to have someone there coordinate their campus with UCL's. Second, Since the Edinburgh Beginner's tournament is, erm, in EDINBURGH I was thinking it might be feasible to have a beginner's tourney in London for teams that don't want to travel that far up north. If anyone on Britdisc is a student and is thinks they might be willing to do a mid-October oneday (or maybe even a whole weekend) then let's get together. And Wayne, before you go on with a lesson on posting ethics, I AM sending this to the student ultimate lists as well. Cheers Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers Ultimate 'I will get round to updating the undercoverlovers.co.uk website soon, honest!' From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Aug 29 23:02:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7TM1i927586 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:01:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TM1hb27579 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:01:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7TM1g803477 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:01:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA29864 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:05:57 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200008292205.XAA29864@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 22:19:48 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 2.56 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e7TM1hb27580 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 09 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY 2000 - THE GUNSLINGER Location: Glastonbury - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Eli Katsavras Main Email: elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 09 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - NORTH V SOUTH Location: Quarry Park, Leamington Spa - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 23 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF [A TOUR] - SOLSTICE IV Location: Burnlaw, Northumberland - [Disc Golf] Oran Villiers-Stuart Home Phone: 01434 345 359 ____________________________________________________________ 23 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - NATIONAL OUTDOORS Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes 81 Bittern Avenue, Abbeydale, Gloucester, , GL4 4WG Main Email: chughes@chelt.ac.uk Alternative Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 Work Phone: 01242 543299 ____________________________________________________________ 30 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS Location: Victoria Park, Leicester - [Outdoor Ultimate] Ben Ravilious Main Email: ben@ravilious.net Home Phone: 0116 2559638 Mobile: 07703 460866 ____________________________________________________________ 07 OCTOBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF [A TOUR] Location: University of Essex, Colchester TBC - [Disc Golf] Simon Luard Home Phone: TBA ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - SINGLES MATCHPLAY IV Location: Ashton Court, Bristol - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 30 09:06:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7U84vo27733 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:04:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7U84sb27720 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:04:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mirapoint1.oneview.net (IDENT:mirapoint@mirapoint1.oneview.net [212.100.96.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7U84qY02152 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:04:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from nts40bdc.penninehealthcare.co.uk (smtp1.oneview.net [212.100.96.17]) by mirapoint1.oneview.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id FCE02888; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:04:39 +0100 (BST) Received: by NTS40BDC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:48:56 +0100 Message-ID: <155BD71A106DD411BC2700A0C9AD4BA34135@NTS40BDC> From: Ben Peek To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Cedric Chaintron , "Peter Lemmens (Jet Set)" Subject: Nottingham Co-ed Results Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:48:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here are the results for the Co-ed tour 3 in Nottingham. 1 Chevron Action Flash 2 KUPA 3 Blue Arse Flies 4 Drop Dead Gorgeous 5 Mud Culture 6 Jet Set 7 Strange Blue 8 Mild Mannered Janitors 9 Calimocho (Plate) 10 Red 11 Aurora Borialis 12 OUF 13 SuperFly 14 Mohawk Mwncii Magic 15 Sneeekys (Spoon) 16 Pick Up Spirit of the Game - Sneeekys MVPs for final - Wayne and Laura There is a bit of lost property too, so spread the word amongst your team-mates - I'll try to get it to another tournament later in the year. Thanks to the 60 or so people who stayed on Monday for the hat tournament - I hope you all had some fun. SuperFly would like to send out a big thankyou to everyone who helped to make this tournament a success. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 30 10:51:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7U9nSj16403 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:49:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7U9nQb16384 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:49:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7U9nQ814448 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:49:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13U4Uo-0005Vc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:49:26 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 30 Aug 00 10:49:25 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.47); 30 Aug 00 10:49:14 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 10:49:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Sheffield Beginners Tournament X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: <190AA2994B50@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e7U9nQb16389 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All Kind of following on from Adams E Mail. On the 21st/22nd of October Sheffield and the Phat Eds will be hosting a beginners tournament at the Concorde Sports centre. There will be space for 16 beginners teams ( maximum one coach per team on pitch at any one time ) and 8 experienced sides who will play in a mini tournament at the same time ( To show the beginners how it's done ). As those of you who have played there will already know the Concorde has a good set up for frisbee with a large spectators gallery, electronic scoreboard etc and the fact that it has been used many times in the past means the staff are pretty tolerant of flying discs, rowdy calls etc. There should be plenty of floorspace available for those of you who want it and the party is in the process of being arranged. The concorde sports centre has now been taken over by Sheffield International Venues who unfortunately will no longer cut us any deals so the price will be £80 per team. Hope you can all make it especially those of you for whom Edinburgh is too far away. Cheques made payable to Robert Owen can be sent to 25 Bute Street Crookes Sheffield S10 1LG Hopefully I'll hear from you soon even if it's justy an indication that you're interested. Robert Owen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Aug 30 15:40:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e7UEbXN14750 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:37:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7UEbVb14743 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:37:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from fppserver.fpp.net (post.fpp.net [194.176.90.130]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7UEbUY22689 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:37:31 +0100 (BST) Received: by post.fpp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:33:49 +0100 Message-ID: <81F444CB9295D211A67A0008C709C9D617AF97@post.fpp.net> From: Gillon Campbell To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: London Ultimate Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:33:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Just e-mailing concerning getting a game of ultimate in London. I have just moved to London and am looking for getting to play with a fun and keen group who go to tournaments and play weekends and even midweek while the light is still good. I used to play for the Flying Sorcerers in St Andrews and just need to through some disk before I lose it..............no one understands me see......"what frisbee they say?!!!" So anyone in a team that I can come and huck some disk with just drop me an e-mail about when you meet. Cheers Gillon ************************************************************* PLEASE REPLY TO : gillon.campbell@fpp.net Gillon Campbell FPP DESIGN LTD (London office) 43 Eagle Street London WC1R 4AP United Kingdom Mobile : 0044 (0) 776-974-0455 Tel : 0044 (0) 207 831 6041 Fax : 0044 (0) 207 242 9295 ISDN : 0044 (0) 207 242 5550 ************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 1 08:26:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e817Mfv16532 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:22:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e817Mep16527 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:22:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e817MY816603 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:22:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.239]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id IAA07230; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:22:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26105; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:22:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 08:22:21 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman Reply-To: Paul Eastman To: britdisc cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: 9th Annual Beginners Tourni Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes Folks, that says 9th Annual Beginner Tourni, Only in Edinburgh can you find a tournament for beginners with such histroy, such style, and 32 TEAMS! As you've come to expect this years tournament will be Bigger, Bolder, and Better than any you've been to before. We've already had a stack of entries so if you're wanting to come you should be thinking about it now. Whys our tournament better than any other? (A quick 4 point guide to doing it right) 1) It will have 32 teams, the biggest indoor tourni you'll probably ever go to 2) It give you more time to prepare you teams than any other tournie, it is on the 11/12 November 3) The party venue has mover back to the student union! We have space for all your teams, their loved ones, their grannys and their pets if they want to bring them. Theres gonna be over 300 people at this party!! 4) Its in EDINBURGH, you all know that means some of the best hospitality, accomodation, and organisation you'll find in the known ultimate world. Please send any cheques to: Ro-Sham-Bo c/o Paul Eastman 1F2 44 warrender park road marchmont edinburgh eh9 1hh cheques for 90 GBP made out to EUUFC Many thanks and we'll see you all soon, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate eastman.pd@pg.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 1 14:57:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e81Drbe15674 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:53:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e81DrYp15657 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:53:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e81DrXY05907 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:53:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from s9402225.student.utwente.nl (ut117151.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.117.151]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/MQT) with ESMTP id PAA00615; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 15:53:19 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000901121807.00a81380@mail.student.utwente.nl> X-Sender: s9402225@mail.student.utwente.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 15:46:04 +0200 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Hinderik de Keijzer Subject: Dutch Open Pickup team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, There's gonna be a pickup team at the Dutch Open tournament, 16-17 september in Enschede, the Netherlands. If you want to play and haven't picked up with a team yet, let me know wou want to come and want to play in the pickup team. Hinderik T +31 (0)53 433 01 28 F +31 (0)20 874 15 83 E mailto:H.J.deKeijzer@student.utwente.nl [I think therefore I am, I think] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 1 21:31:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e81KSKp10775 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:28:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e81KSIp10767 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:28:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from bart.callnet0800.com (bart.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e81KS4Y13290 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:28:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.callnet0800.com [212.67.128.145] by bart.callnet0800.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1ED10DE013C; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 21:30:37 +0100 Received: from ben [212.67.149.48] by smtp.callnet0800.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1441F700AE; Fri, 01 Sep 2000 21:27:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c01453$70ddd080$309543d4@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Important message for #17 GB Mixed Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 21:29:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could number 17 from the GB Mixed team please get in contact. Anyone know who this is? Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 4 11:10:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e84A7JN13404 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:07:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84A7Ip13396 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:07:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f144.hotmail.com [216.32.181.144]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84A7H808739 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:07:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 03:07:10 -0700 Received: from 212.1.133.24 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 10:07:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.1.133.24] From: "Adam Milner" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Glastonbury 2000. The Gunslinger Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 11:07:10 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2000 10:07:10.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3ED27F0:01C01657] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc, The countdown for the shootout has begun. The Corral opens in 4 days. For those teams that have not sent cheques for The Gunslinger this w/e could they asap to: Todd Kleckner Top Floor 4 Crown Circus Dowanhill Glasgow G12 9HB Cheques (80 GBP/team) Or if you want to pay on the day could you at least let us know on. substance-abuse@egroups.com There are still a few spots left so if you don't want to miss the Bucking Bronko Rodeo competition or the whiskey bar then get yourself sorted out and send us some money. P.s. if your names Paul and you play for Strange Blue then I've been told to let you know you have a team for this w/e care of Leigh. Directions will follow for teams that have payed or let us know they are coming shortly. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 4 15:28:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e84EOTk29535 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:24:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84EOQp29514 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:24:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84EOP807818 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:24:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from vlsilab2.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.142] helo=vlsilab2) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13Vx9v-0003hw-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 15:23:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:23:12 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@vlsilab2 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: directions for Gunslingers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks- Directions are - at this very moment - being compiled. They will appear on Britdisc as soon as we have them in a form ready for digestion. I have had a lot of people emailing saying - "hey! I want to pickup" - if you are one of these people and are fairly certain you'll be there looking to pickup, drop me a line. Maybe if we have enough interest we can arrange a team called the random renegades, and y'all can shindig together. Incidentally - if you are a Texan and have been emailing us, email back soon. See y'all at the showdown. SA Inc. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 4 22:23:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e84LLNd23835 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:21:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84LLMp23830 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:21:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84LLGY07662 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:21:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:21:09 -0700 Received: from 212.41.32.7 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:21:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.41.32.7] From: "ed shardlow" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Glastonbury 2000. The Gunslinger Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 22:21:09 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2000 21:21:09.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B297860:01C016B6] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk howdy. sufferin' saspirella, me's lookin' fer a ride to the party town! can anyone give me a lift to the gunslinger? i live in chichester, which if you don't know is east of portsmouth on the south coast, so if anyone passing my way could drop me a line(maybe coming from brighton??) it would be much appreciated, ta, love ed ex-bears, soon to be GROOVE (Kobe, Japan). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 4 23:51:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e84MoFY01744 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:50:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84MoBp01735 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:50:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e84Mo1809689 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:50:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12904 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:56:36 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200009042256.XAA12904@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 23:08:11 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 2.56 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e84MoBp01736 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 09 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - GLASTONBURY 2000 - THE GUNSLINGER Location: Glastonbury - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/glastonbury2000 Eli Katsavras Main Email: elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 09 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - NORTH V SOUTH Location: Quarry Park, Leamington Spa - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 23 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF [A TOUR] - SOLSTICE IV Location: Burnlaw, Northumberland - [Disc Golf] Oran Villiers-Stuart Home Phone: 01434 345 359 ____________________________________________________________ 23 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - NATIONAL OUTDOORS Location: TBA - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes 81 Bittern Avenue, Abbeydale, Gloucester, , GL4 4WG Main Email: chughes@chelt.ac.uk Alternative Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 Work Phone: 01242 543299 ____________________________________________________________ 30 SEPTEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - MIXED NATIONALS Location: Victoria Park, Leicester - [Outdoor Ultimate] Ben Ravilious Main Email: ben@ravilious.net Home Phone: 0116 2559638 Mobile: 07703 460866 ____________________________________________________________ 07 OCTOBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF [A TOUR] Location: University of Essex, Colchester TBC - [Disc Golf] Simon Luard Home Phone: TBA ____________________________________________________________ 21 OCTOBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS Location: Concorde Sports Centre Sheffield - [Indoor Ultimate] 16 Beginners teams 8 Experienced teams Price £80 Robert Owen 25 Bute Street, Crookes, Sheffield, S10, Main Email: GGP99RDO@SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Alternative Email: robertowen1@hotmail.com Home Phone: 0114 2669647 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - SINGLES MATCHPLAY IV Location: Ashton Court, Bristol - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 5 03:53:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e852pG226016 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:51:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e852pEp26011 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:51:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from eve.speakeasy.net (eve.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.17]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e852pD815946 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:51:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultilinks.com (samb-3.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.44.47]) by eve.speakeasy.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e852nh032617 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:49:47 -0700 Message-ID: <39B45F5E.8BB4C222@ultilinks.com> Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 19:50:06 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The Ultilinks Ultimate Survey! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Whazzup everybody? I have created a survey to answer the 30 questions about the ultimate community that you've always been wondering about. http://www.ultilinks.com/survey.html It's not commercial, and the results will be published publicly on Ultilinks. Please tell all your ultimate friends about this; the more people who fill in this form, the more accurately the results will represent the entire ultimate community. So once again: http://www.ultilinks.com/survey.html Oh, and you could win a pair of excellent Gaia cleats! Keep having fun, Peldi PS.In case you're wondering, this is not related to the Washington Post thing, I've had my questions pretty much ready for months. The fact that the WP poll got more than 200,000 votes made me realize that my survey could be useful. PPSS.Props to Lyn Debelvoise, Brett Price, Margie Parkis and Zach Hochstadt for the help with the survey. You guys rock! ;) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 5 10:45:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e859g2501122 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:42:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e859g0p01114 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:42:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e859ft804654 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:41:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from vlsilab2.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.142] helo=vlsilab2) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13WFE0-0000Su-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:41:04 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:40:37 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@vlsilab2 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: gunslingers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks- I think we have the following teams entered for Glastonbury. If you're on this list and have decided you don't want to come, please let me know. Sneeekys BAF Point Blank Nightfever Mwnci See RED Superfly X2 MMJ Bears Brighton/Cambridge Hammerage Abuse Oxford people ... I'm also compiling a list of people wanting a piece of the pickup team. Reply to this letting me know if you're into this .. Todd From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 5 14:44:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e85DfJc15531 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:41:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e85DfHp15519 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:41:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e85DfC828093 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:41:12 +0100 (BST) X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Tue, 5 Sep 00 14:40:31 +0100 X-WebMail-UserID: jgoolden Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:40:31 +0100 From: Jack Goolden To: britdisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: FAO: Bradley Message-ID: <3B680DB6@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.01 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is Bradley out there? Jack Chevy/Superfly From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 5 15:53:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e85EoQV04366 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:50:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e85EoPp04360 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:50:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e85EoOY22278 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:50:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from millhouse.cognition.co.uk (unknown [212.134.61.195]) by chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF91F81C8 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:50:23 +0100 (BST) Received: by MILLHOUSE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:47:54 +0100 Message-ID: <494D3B0997E7D2119FCF00A0C9FC42751BF118@MILLHOUSE> From: Richie Smart To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Dave Trovell or Sara are you out there - sorry to all others! Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 15:47:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could Trouble or Sara please contact me on mailto:Richie@cognition.co.uk Cheers Richie Smart aka Splitter From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 6 10:52:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e869nn607886 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:49:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e869nlp07879 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:49:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e869nf805496 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:49:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by mx1.ft.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA02967 for ; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 10:49:38 +0100 Received: FROM ima1.ft.com BY mx1.ft.com ; Wed Sep 06 10:49:32 2000 +0100 Received: from Lotus Notes by ima1.ft.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 0012BAB8; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:51:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 10:48:18 +0100 Message-ID: <0012BAB8.N22024@ft.com> From: Paolo.Nistri@ft.com (Paolo Nistri) Subject: FW: bad call? (fwd) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Memo Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Seems like there's been some banter/discussion re: the contentious last call during the Open final in Heilbronn... read on... Paolo (The 22) ---------------------- Forwarded by Paolo Nistri/MDD/LONDON/FTI on 06/09/2000 10:47 --------------------------- Bart.EDES@oecd.org on 06/09/2000 11:35:28 To: Paolo Nistri/MDD/LONDON/FTI@FTI cc: Subject: FW: bad call? (fwd) his brother plays with Les Invalides! -----Original Message----- From: Alex [mailto:count@basit.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:13 AM To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de Subject: Re: bad call? (fwd) I would like to introduce myself. I am the person who was involved in the call in the finals from the American team. I would first like to point out that I did not call a strip, I called a foul. I can understand why there would complaints about a strip call as I admit I never had possession of the disc. And as for the play, at stall 7 or 8, Jim Parinella threw me a dump pass a little beyond me and away from Anders Jerhamre, who was defending me. As I went to pancake the disc, Anders came from behind and smacked the entire back of my hand just as I was about to catch the disc, whereupon I instantly called the foul. Unfortunately, we had already had an smaller argument between the two of us earlier in the game, and this one got ugly quickly. I was very angry because I knew that whatever happened to finish the game, it would always be 'tainted' in some people's minds. My behavior was inexcusable but I couldn't believe he was standing there with a straight face and saying that he never touched me when the back of my hand was still tingling. It was impossible that he didn't know he hit me. I was also aggravated because the game should never have come down to that play. We had had a number of chances to put the game away, and we had also given the Swedes a number of opportunities at the end. I was also angry because Anders and I had been teammates when he played with DoG in '95, and now he was putting me in that position. Unfortunately, this whole incident overshadowed what to that point had been a great game between two incredibly evenly matched teams, with both offenses performing almost flawlessly. I was unable to celebrate the victory because of the ending, even though I knew I had made the right call. As I am not on this distribution list, please include me in any relevant responses or further inquiries. Alex de Frondeville Death or Glory James Parinella wrote: > > Did you call "strip" by chance? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:42:19 > From: Johannes Epting > To: eurodisc , chello > Subject: Re: bad call? > > i was standing next to the field right where it happened; only some > subs where closer to the scene. i heard him make the call, and it was > "strip", not "foul". now noone else but him can know whether he > actually had a tight grip on the disc (control) or whether his > fingers were still "2 millimeters away" from the disc when his > opponent hit it; and since it all happens so fast, i can understand > that both players are firmly convinced of their respective versions, > especially in the given situation. it was a very close call. > > i also had a busload of youngsters (7-13 years old) with me (on the > finals day only, so they have no way of looking at the worlds as a > whole), who were right next to me; they have played tournaments > themselves (www.johannesepting.de/MIT), so they know what ultimate is > all about. we had watched the womens final, which was a perfect > display of it all. they also heard the call ("strip"). > > what followed then was no longer a perfect display: never mind the > audience being on the swedes' side, but the argument was really > heated, and it got dirty. some of my youngsters were even asking me: > "but you told us they can play without referees even at world > championships! yeah, right...", which they would have never thought > of saying after the womens final. i found this quite unfortunate. > > and when the teams met in the middle and did not form the usual > circle, something was definitely wrong; neither them nor i had seen > this before, and it should not have been that way. so in this > respect, one could say that it was a bad call. > > on the other hand, if you followed the media coverage, there was no > mentioning of any "problems" or the like; so the uninitiated had no > way of knowing what had gone on, and to them whether it was a bad > call or not did not matter. the americans won. > > so was it a bad call? it was a bad display of the sport, but only > "members of the family" could tell; and they will keep on playing > anyway. (incidentally, MIT was playing a tournament the following > weekend, and they were all there, despite the experience.) > > johannes > Wir spielen MIT. > > > Date sent: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:18:22 +0200 > > Subject: bad call? > > From: chello > > To: eurodisc > > > Hi, > > > > Do anyone have a comment on the last point on the open final imbetween > > Sweden and U.S.A. Was it a bad call and if so how bad was it? Did >this event > > disturb our common view of ultimate as a game of spirit? > > > > Edmund > > > > Enskede Frisbee Klubb > > > > ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster@ft.com * ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 6 11:54:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e86ApJH18307 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:51:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86ApGp18296; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:51:16 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009051603.e85G3qC17708@pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:52:34 +0100 To: tck@elec.gla.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Re: BOUNCE britdisc@warwick.ac.uk: Message too long (>40000 chars) Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:02:24 +0100 (BST) >From: "Todd C. Kleckner" >To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >cc: "Mr. Jazzy" , elisabeth@mcg.gla.ac.uk >Subject: Everything you wanted to know about the Gunslinger including where > to park your horse > >Dearest Britdiscers- > >Find attached information relevant to the Gunslinger. Todd (and all others tempted to post HUGE things to britdisc), PLEASE do NOT send attachments to britdisc! They get blocked and re-directed to myself because they make the message too long! If you have lots of details, why not put them onto your webpages and advertise the URL ... by all means summarise the details for those who cannot access the web (or else post paper copies to those unfortunate few). Thanks for your co-operation. Sam (still standing in as britdisc maintainer, well beyond the agreed 12 months ... hoping that the replacement for britdisc is not far away!) Neilson. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 6 12:13:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e86BBXV23023 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:11:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86BBWp23017 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:11:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate01.e-mail.com (eugate01.e-mail.com [194.196.143.93]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86BBV814087 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:11:31 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id LAA105526 ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:07:41 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:09:18 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BBF38EAD@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: "'count@basit.com'" Subject: RE: bad call? (fwd) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:09:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sky and I were standing about three yards away from the incident. I didn't see it clearly (heads in the way) and I didn't hear "strip", I was under the impression that it was a foul call. I believe that Sky saw it clearly but wasn't sure whether it was a good call, that it was one of those that only the players involved could know for sure. One thing I would like to say is that those people in the stand and around the ground who were jeering DoG for the rest of the game and, even worse, at the presentation ceremony should be ashamed of themselves. The vast majority of those people could have had no real perspective of the incident (it's clear that plenty of people didn't even know what the call was), and had an "any call's a bad call" mentality. I had a lot of sympathy for DoG, who are widely respected as one of the more spirited teams around. To end the Worlds final with such a contentious call was unfortunate, to end it with jeers and boos was a disgrace. Welshy (GB Open & UTI) -----Original Message----- From: Paolo.Nistri@ft.com [mailto:Paolo.Nistri@ft.com] Sent: 06 September 2000 10:48 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: bad call? (fwd) Seems like there's been some banter/discussion re: the contentious last call during the Open final in Heilbronn... read on... Paolo (The 22) ---------------------- Forwarded by Paolo Nistri/MDD/LONDON/FTI on 06/09/2000 10:47 --------------------------- Bart.EDES@oecd.org on 06/09/2000 11:35:28 To: Paolo Nistri/MDD/LONDON/FTI@FTI cc: Subject: FW: bad call? (fwd) his brother plays with Les Invalides! -----Original Message----- From: Alex [mailto:count@basit.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 11:13 AM To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de Subject: Re: bad call? (fwd) I would like to introduce myself. I am the person who was involved in the call in the finals from the American team. I would first like to point out that I did not call a strip, I called a foul. I can understand why there would complaints about a strip call as I admit I never had possession of the disc. And as for the play, at stall 7 or 8, Jim Parinella threw me a dump pass a little beyond me and away from Anders Jerhamre, who was defending me. As I went to pancake the disc, Anders came from behind and smacked the entire back of my hand just as I was about to catch the disc, whereupon I instantly called the foul. Unfortunately, we had already had an smaller argument between the two of us earlier in the game, and this one got ugly quickly. I was very angry because I knew that whatever happened to finish the game, it would always be 'tainted' in some people's minds. My behavior was inexcusable but I couldn't believe he was standing there with a straight face and saying that he never touched me when the back of my hand was still tingling. It was impossible that he didn't know he hit me. I was also aggravated because the game should never have come down to that play. We had had a number of chances to put the game away, and we had also given the Swedes a number of opportunities at the end. I was also angry because Anders and I had been teammates when he played with DoG in '95, and now he was putting me in that position. Unfortunately, this whole incident overshadowed what to that point had been a great game between two incredibly evenly matched teams, with both offenses performing almost flawlessly. I was unable to celebrate the victory because of the ending, even though I knew I had made the right call. As I am not on this distribution list, please include me in any relevant responses or further inquiries. Alex de Frondeville Death or Glory James Parinella wrote: > > Did you call "strip" by chance? > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:42:19 > From: Johannes Epting > To: eurodisc , chello > Subject: Re: bad call? > > i was standing next to the field right where it happened; only some > subs where closer to the scene. i heard him make the call, and it was > "strip", not "foul". now noone else but him can know whether he > actually had a tight grip on the disc (control) or whether his > fingers were still "2 millimeters away" from the disc when his > opponent hit it; and since it all happens so fast, i can understand > that both players are firmly convinced of their respective versions, > especially in the given situation. it was a very close call. > > i also had a busload of youngsters (7-13 years old) with me (on the > finals day only, so they have no way of looking at the worlds as a > whole), who were right next to me; they have played tournaments > themselves (www.johannesepting.de/MIT), so they know what ultimate is > all about. we had watched the womens final, which was a perfect > display of it all. they also heard the call ("strip"). > > what followed then was no longer a perfect display: never mind the > audience being on the swedes' side, but the argument was really > heated, and it got dirty. some of my youngsters were even asking me: > "but you told us they can play without referees even at world > championships! yeah, right...", which they would have never thought > of saying after the womens final. i found this quite unfortunate. > > and when the teams met in the middle and did not form the usual > circle, something was definitely wrong; neither them nor i had seen > this before, and it should not have been that way. so in this > respect, one could say that it was a bad call. > > on the other hand, if you followed the media coverage, there was no > mentioning of any "problems" or the like; so the uninitiated had no > way of knowing what had gone on, and to them whether it was a bad > call or not did not matter. the americans won. > > so was it a bad call? it was a bad display of the sport, but only > "members of the family" could tell; and they will keep on playing > anyway. (incidentally, MIT was playing a tournament the following > weekend, and they were all there, despite the experience.) > > johannes > Wir spielen MIT. > > > Date sent: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:18:22 +0200 > > Subject: bad call? > > From: chello > > To: eurodisc > > > Hi, > > > > Do anyone have a comment on the last point on the open final imbetween > > Sweden and U.S.A. Was it a bad call and if so how bad was it? Did >this event > > disturb our common view of ultimate as a game of spirit? > > > > Edmund > > > > Enskede Frisbee Klubb > > > > ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. 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If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 6 14:24:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e86DLYp16404 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:21:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86DLVp16385 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:21:31 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 14:22:50 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: ... a little reminder about britdisc Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to remind everyone about the limitations of the (current) britdisc forum, it seems worth re-iterating the advice from the person who originally set the whole thing up (Ralf Doswell): Some tips for britdisc: o Don't post things that look like commands. e.g. a subject or very short mail containing things like "help", "uns ubscribe", "remove" etc. o Don't post large things, especially not over 40K. MS Word attachments are a definite no-no. If you want to post large things, use plain text or put things up on a web-site and provide a URL. o Above all, have fun! Cheers and many thanks for your co-operation. Sam Neilson (Ralf's stand-in ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 6 15:30:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e86ESHH04194 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:28:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86ESFp04189 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:28:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e86ESAY11583 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:28:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from eeapp.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.58] helo=eeapp) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13WgAb-0001Ek-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 06 Sep 2000 15:27:21 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:30:11 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@eeapp To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Long awaited for .. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies for the delay in compiling this list of information. Far below find the relevant directions. Nearer the top, random blathering. Camping / Parking ... Either Abuse or Tor people will tell you where to camp when you arrive. If you arrive after hours camp next to the other tents, as there is only one area in which we can pitch our tents. Other tents could be burned. There's savages in them hills. The only horse allowed on the grass is the mechanical one that'll be giving rides Saturday afternoon/evening. Other horses caught on the grass will be shot. Live music (kids called Scary Monster) in on from 8pm onwards on Friday night. If you think they suck, have a few drinks and soften your critical judgement. I'm sure by closing you'll be beggging for autographs. Directions ... The address is: Tor Lesiure Centre, Street Road, Glastonbury BA6 7EF The best way to get a roadmap is to go to the site - www.streetmap.co.uk and put in the postcode BA6 9EF. By Road If you don't have web access, you want to get your horse on the M5, get of at Junction 23 and head along the A39 (sign posted Glastonbury). When you read a roundabout with the A361 (this is vitually in Glastonbury) take the A361. There will be cricket grounds and a Safeways on your left. The cricket grounds is the famed "Tor Lesiure Centre". By Bus 1) Badgerline Tel: 01225 464446 (Bath) 01749 673084 (Wells) The following buses operated by Badgerline provide services to Glastonbury: 163 Wells - Bridgewater via Glastonbury, Street, Ashcott, Woolavington, Puriton 376/676/929/976 Bristol - Yeovil via Farrington Gurney, Chewton Mendip, Wells, Glastonbury, Street, Somerton, Ilchester 969 Bath - Bridgewater via Radstock, Shepton Mallet, Glastonbury, Street For up to date timetables and other information visit the Badgerline website. http://www.firstbadgerline.co.uk/mendip/sumindxf.htm 2) National Express Tel: 0990 80 80 80 The following services call in Glastonbury: National Express ~ Weymouth to Hull (338) National Express ~ Street to London (402) http://www.gobycoach.com/gbchome.cfm?w=1024&from=www.nationalexpress.co.uk By Trains National Rail Enquiries Tel: 0345 48 49 50 The nearest train station to Glastonbury is Castle Cary (on the London Paddington to Plymouth line).There is a bus (Badgerline service 168) which runs from Castle Cary to Street/Wells in the afternoon from Monday - Friday but there are no buses at weekends or bank holidays. Alternatives are to travel to Bristol Temple Meads or Bath by train. Regular bus services operate to Glastonbury from Bristol town centre via Temple Meads (Badgerline services 376/676/929/976) and from Bath to Glastonbury (Badgerline service 969). For further information and up-to-date train timetables go to: http://www.glastonbury.co.uk/local_info/index.html Still taking names for the pickup team. Sneeekys say they could use a few too ... Todd From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 7 08:39:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e877ajB06532 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:36:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e877ahp06525 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:36:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e877ahY08957 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:36:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from vlsilab2.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.142] helo=vlsilab2) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13WwDt-0004Bd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:35:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 08:35:23 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@vlsilab2 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: glastonbury Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We've had a few teams drop in very recent times. There are still spots open for the Gunslinger if there are any takers. substance-abuse@egroups.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 7 20:49:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e87JkCI17682 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:46:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e87Jk5p17664 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:46:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e87Jk5805052 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:46:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-29.chlorine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.16.29]) by cmailg2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 13X7bc-0003Wa-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 07 Sep 2000 20:45:04 +0100 X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 20:48:04 -0700 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Stephen Porter Subject: South African Ultimate Beach Tournament Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Porter Subject: South African Ultimate Beach Tournament Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:25:47 +0200 Hi all, As a great warm up for Paga come to the most beautiful beaches in the world and the cheapest city (just about) in the world!! Join us in the sun for another South African first - the SA Ultimate Beach Tournament. Venue: Clifton Beach South Africa Dates: 1 March - 4 March Cost: R1000 per player ($155) excl. flight Costs include: Tournament transport, accoms, rediculous parties and the #1 beaches in the world. Exchange rates: Rand:Dollar = 7:1 and Rand:Pound = 10:1 - so you see, it is a joke. If you are interested, reply to: mailto:stix@mweb.co.za or goto: http://www.safda.org.za an register. Yours in ultimate, Steve From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 8 10:48:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e889jx621726 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:45:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e889jvp21715 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:45:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.BMPDDB.COM (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e889juY07932 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:45:57 +0100 (BST) Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:46:06 +0100 Message-ID: <12ABA23297FBD31183C60008C786586A526F03@polaris.bmpddb.com> From: David.Trovell@omduk.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate video footage Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:46:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm trying to talk Channel 4 into filming Ultimate on a regular basis and need some help. I've got all the usual Ultimate videos (Worlds 94, Rimini, etc) but I'm looking for good footage to add to this. I've seen video cameras at loads of tournaments over the years so there must be some decent UK footage out there somewhere. I'm also after the Madison video with Kenny Dobbins and Lenny's horns on. All help and tapes appreciated. Thanks Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 8 14:04:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e88D1K627075 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e88D1Ip27068 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e88D1H811519 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.28.133] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13XNmJ-0007bm-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:11 +0100 Message-ID: <002d01c01995$6e0ad8c0$851cac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed nationals roster rule change Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Several teams have approached me with roster problems involving dwindling numbers of women. These teams made an effort to play more than one Series Event, and I feel it would be harsh to exclude them from Nationals when finding enough women to play has been a problem for many teams. In addition, one of the reasons for starting a Mixed series was to encourage more women to play. So, the following 'softening' of the roster rules will be in force for Nationals rosters: Any team may add one WOMAN to their roster who has not played with them during the Mixed Series, provided that none of the woman's previous mixed teams are playing at Nationals. (Just like the Tour guest rule.) I apologise to all the teams that busted their butts to get their women out to the tournaments so they would have enough for Nationals. This is a compromise decision, and I admit it has its drawbacks. Given the above 'softening' of the roster rules- DO NOT SHOW UP WITH LESS THAN FOUR WOMEN READY TO PLAY AT NATIONALS. I will exclude you on the spot- there will be no captains' agreements to play with fewer women or anyone playing shorthanded. Bring enough players (male and female) or don't come. That said- hope to see you in LEicester, nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 8 14:04:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e88D1MY27095 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e88D1Kp27080 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e88D1K811521 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.28.133] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13XNmH-0007bm-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:01:09 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c01995$6d0f13a0$851cac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed nationals info- IMPORTANT Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:53:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The following teams have qualified for Nationals and will be seeded in this order (based upon points earned during the Mixed Series). 1 Chevron 2 KUPA 3 Wage 4 BAF 5 Drop Dead Gorgeous 6 Strange Blue 7 Mild Mannered Janitors 8 Mud Culture 9 Calimocho 10 Red 11 Superfly 12 Sneeekys 13 More Mild Mannered Janitors Thirteen is a crappy number for a tournament- so any team that has played in a mixed event but did not qualify on points is welcome to take the last three spaces. First come, first serve- email me. Team contacts from the above teams need to contact me and let me know if you plan to attend. Also- I need a snail mail address to get you rosters and info packs. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 8 17:16:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e88GE6E02212 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:14:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e88GE5p02206 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:14:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f226.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e88GE4Y18833 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:14:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:13:53 -0700 Received: from 212.24.71.28 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:13:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.24.71.28] From: "Paul Ruff" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: More discs for school? Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:13:53 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2000 16:13:53.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[C85A5BB0:01C019AF] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where I can get hold of a load of discs? The new term has started at school and I'm expecting an influx of keen new pupils who will all want one. If anyone could help me on this could you drop us a line? Cheers, Paul Ruff _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Sep 10 21:54:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8AKoxu04381 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:50:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8AKowp04375 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8AKov816067 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:50:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com ([213.120.10.89]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000910205154.ERLC11938.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com> for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:51:54 +0100 Received: by host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C01B70.B7E502E0@host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com>; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:47:30 +0100 Message-ID: <01C01B70.B7E502E0@host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Nationals in Cambridge Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:43:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8AKowp04376 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Due to some major panic, and last ditch attempts, we have managed to arrange Nationals in Cambridge at Cobham Common (Don't quote me on the name) - the same place that the co-ed event was held. I will put out the qualifying teams, and the seeding ASAP - couldn't be bothered to do it until it was worth doing. Please do not start asking me questions about the organisation because I don't know any of the local info. Please don't start trying to hassle the to be announced organisers - They are desperately trying to organise. Let them get on with it, and they will reveal the information as soon as they can confirm things. I can confirm, as per the tour rules - that NATIONALS is the determining event for teams wanting to qualify for Europeans - and no we don't know how many slots will be up for grabs. Finally many thanks to all those people who attempted to help out and host Nationals - your help was most appreciated. Many thanks to all those players who have had the patience to wait and not bombard me with silly emails - see in a couple of weeks time. Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 11 11:51:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BAobh22316 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:50:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BAoZp22304 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:50:35 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:51:15 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: andylucey@yahoo.com Subject: colchester Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 00:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: andylucey@yahoo.com Subject: colchester To: britdisc we have been given a 95% guarantee that the new course will be in place on thursday. si and guy luard have been working closely with the university to get everything pushed through. guy and myself will at the course on saturday (not sunday as originally thought) to play obviously, but also to show as many people round as wish to be there. we will be there from 11am and intend to start around midday, as we still have to mark tee positions etc. the formal, marked tees incidentally, will be there soon i am reliably informed. it would be great if as many of you as possible could make the trip up there this weekend. firstly to show some thanks to the uni, but secondly to sample the new course before the tounamnet in a month. the course itself is a real mixture of tight, accurate short holes and some big long mothers!- very challenging, but also very nice to play. par 63(?) i think we have kept 7 or 8 of the original holes- the rest are vastly improved esp where the tress had grown and buildings had sprung up. if you are thinking of making the trip- let me know in advance either by e or call- mobile- 07887 628544 or home- 01622 871640 as it will need some coordination, esp if fro some unforeseen reason the move does not happen thursday par is 63 i think __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 11 11:51:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BAmik21932 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:48:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BAmhp21926 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:48:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BAmf825481 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:48:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from s9402225.student.utwente.nl (ut117151.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.117.151]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/MQT) with ESMTP id MAA21562; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:48:26 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000911113138.00b3a370@mail.student.utwente.nl> X-Sender: s9402225@mail.student.utwente.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:37:25 +0200 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Hinderik de Keijzer Subject: Last time annoying you :-) NBK/Dutch Open - Pickup team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, If your interested in the pickup team at the Dutch Open tournament, 16-17 september in Enschede, the Netherlands, come over and enjoy. If you want to play and haven't picked up with a team yet, this is your chance to play! Hinderik T +31 (0)53 433 01 28 F +31 (0)20 874 15 83 E mailto:H.J.deKeijzer@student.utwente.nl [Boycott shampoo, demand real poo] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 11 12:05:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BB4cE24979 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BB4bp24969 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f334.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.209]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BB4a827778 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 04:04:29 -0700 Received: from 212.41.34.142 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:04:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.41.34.142] From: "ed shardlow" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: so long Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:04:29 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2000 11:04:29.0416 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E5FD680:01C01BE0] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ok people, i'm off to japan tomorrow, so... firstly thanx to substane abuse for an excellent last uk tournament for a year or so. maybe i'll make it back for glastonbury next year. good luck to bears (as if you need it). and if anyone's passing through japan, i'm planning on playing for kobe groove, so come along and huck some disc. i'll probably stay on britdisc, so expect the occasional homesick monologue, love ed _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 11 15:31:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BESg320272 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:28:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BESep20266 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:28:40 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:29:58 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Helen Myers Subject: calling Fraser McRae Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: 10 Sep 2000 17:47:33 -0500 From: Helen Myers To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk I'm hoping someone can send me a current e-mail address for Fraser McRae ... the one I have (fraserm@kscl.com) keeps bouncing ... maybe he's changed jobs? Cheers, Helen From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 11 15:40:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BEdUB24250 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:39:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BEdTp24241 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:39:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (exim@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk [131.111.36.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BEdT826975 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:39:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from gcf (helo=localhost) by mole.bio.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 13YUk0-00M7xT-00; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:39:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:39:24 +0100 (BST) From: Graham C Fletcher Reply-To: Graham C Fletcher To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nationals. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, As Chris said, Nationals are going to be hosted in Cambridge, at the same venue (nice pitches) that was used for the coed earlier this year. Entry is 95 pounds per team (including BUF tax). Please send cheques, payable to "Cambridge University Ultimate Club", to: 12a Amwell Road, Cambridge, CB4 2UH. Please send your cheques to arrive by Friday. We hope to be able to put out another email (and put up a website) by Thursday. These will contain accommodation information, directions and other details. Cheers, Graham. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Fletcher. Department of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge, Tennis Court Road, Cambridge. CB2 1QW. gcf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 12 00:31:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BNSDN13481 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BNSBp13472 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BNS5802884 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com ([62.7.187.98]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000911232855.DUWV15831.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:55 +0100 Received: by host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C01C4F.DAE1D040@host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <01C01C4F.DAE1D040@host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour And Nationals Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:08:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8BNSBp13473 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As promised, the results: RANK TEAM POINTS 1 Doughboy 952 2 UTI 935 3 Chevron Action Flash 872 4 Deep South Mentality 743 5 Fluid Druids 733 6 Red 730 7 Hammerage 700 8 Catch 22 662 9 Fusion 661 10 Blue Arse Flies 641 11 Headrush 631 12 Strange Blue 530 13 Point Blank 450 14 Fever 413 15 Sharks 361 16 Ro-Sham-Bo 352 17 Mild Mannered Janitors 314 18 Superfly 310 19 Skunks 287 20 GB Juniors 226 21 Angels 193 *(placed above MMJ based on T3 Results at which Angles finished higher than MMJ) 22 More Mild Mannered Janitors 193 * 23 Blue Arse Flies Coed 189 24 Jedi 163 *(placed above Mud based on results from T4 at which Jedi finished above Mud) 25 Mud Culture * 26 Slipdisc 159 27 GB Women 156 28 Swamp Donkeys 103.75 29 Bears 82 30 Yorkie Bar Kids 79 31 Hazefly 42 32 LSI 31 33 Mohawks 28 34 Albatross 21.25 35 Skunks 2 20 36 Sheffield Cardiff Alliance 14 The top 16 teams qualify for Nationals and therefore need to enter ASAP. MMJanitors are waiting to take any avalable slots, and therefore you need to beat them to your place. Send your entries to Graham as detailed below. Any slot not filled by reciept of a check by next monday is under threat from the hordes in Leeds. Seeding is based on Nationals other than Catch is moved up to 3rd place based on the ruling given before T4 (go to britdisc archives to refresh your memory) by the addition of 220.67 points. Hence Chevron move down to 4th, etc. Fusion remain seeded 9th. etc. Format will be as per a 16 team tour event. 2 pools of 4 to make the top 8 group on Saturday, and 2 groups of 4 to make the 9-16 group. Sunday will be 1-4 KO. 5-12 KO, and 13-16 pool. The rest you know. Can the UTI player in possesion of the trophy please make sure you bring it along, as well as whoever has the spirit trophy (we really ought to keep track of these things - if you have it can you let me know - cheers) Finally FUSION won the TOUR SPIRIT award this year - I will get the trophy to Nationals. Any other questions - don't ask me. Chris DoC ---------- From: Graham C Fletcher[SMTP:gcf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk] Sent: 11 September 2000 15:39 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nationals. Dear all, As Chris said, Nationals are going to be hosted in Cambridge, at the same venue (nice pitches) that was used for the coed earlier this year. Entry is 95 pounds per team (including BUF tax). Please send cheques, payable to "Cambridge University Ultimate Club", to: 12a Amwell Road, Cambridge, CB4 2UH. Please send your cheques to arrive by Friday. We hope to be able to put out another email (and put up a website) by Thursday. These will contain accommodation information, directions and other details. Cheers, Graham. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Fletcher. Department of Biochemistry, University of Cambridge, Tennis Court Road, Cambridge. CB2 1QW. gcf@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 12 00:31:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8BNSEq13487 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BNSDp13480 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8BNSC802896 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:28:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com ([62.7.187.98]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000911232906.DUXO15831.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:29:06 +0100 Received: by host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C01C4F.E19052E0@host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:24:57 +0100 Message-ID: <01C01C4F.E19052E0@host62-7-187-98.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Indoor Nationals (!?!) and Tour 2001 (!!!) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:24:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8BNSDp13482 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, In probably another futile attempt to avoid the organisational chaos of this year I will be attempting (maybe even for the AGM) to start sorting out the indoor events and the tour next year. So if you are interested in hosting any of the following events email me (don't phone - I'll forget - definitely don't mention it in passing at a tournament!). You will need to be especially quick for indoor Nationals as I am likely to book Cheltenham in the next two weeks if I don't get a response. Let me know location of venue, approximate size, and general facilities. Please say which events you are interested (more than one is good! - replies of 'any' will also go down very well) Remember you not only have to worry about where you are going to put all the players during the day, but also what you are going to do with over night as well (if you wish to take that last statement out of context, feel free to do so - just keep your fantasies to yourself - I'm sure you can find a more 'specialised' mail list to suit your tastes). Events: Indoor qualifiers - a good spread throughout the country (Feb / Mar 2001) Indoor Nationals (Mar 2001) T1 April 2001 T2 May 2001 T3 June-ish 2001 T4 July 2001 BUF Open (Anyone fancy a big event - Nolan?) August / September / Whenever 2001 BUF Nationals September 2001 There are also the following events that need organising, and I can pass on interest to the relevant co-ordinator Student events (indoors / outdoors/ regional teams) Coed events (at least 3 tours + nationals) Womens events (Indoors and outdoors) I look forward to a deluge of emails Cheers Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 12 02:15:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8C1DAi22990 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:13:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@wisteria [137.205.192.41]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8C1D6p22941 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:13:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from www.fasttrec.com (sdn-ar-002mnminnP321.dialsprint.net [206.133.127.99]) by wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e8C1BfW12605; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:11:44 +0100 (BST) From: Subject: ADV: Stock Profile - Your Bank Online Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:37:04 Message-Id: <567.460447.770486@www.fasttrec.com> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, to be removed from out mailing list, please visit http://www.stockprofile2000.net/remove.html STOCK PROFILE 2000 SEPTEMBER STOCK PROFILE YourBankOnline - Listed on the OTC Bulletin Board Trading Symbol: YBOL Recent Share Price: $1.38 52 Week Range: $0.56-$6 Shares Outstanding: 12 Mil For full company information please visit http://www.stockprofile2000.net **** News Flash **** YourBankOnline Declares Dividend SEATTLE, Aug. 14 -- YourBankOnline (OTC Bulletin Board: YBOL) announced today that effective September 15, 2000 all share holders of record will receive a dividend representing a proportionate number of shares in the company's wholly owned subsidiary, Contractors Directory, Inc. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 12 10:59:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8C9usO08171 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:56:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8C9uqp08161 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:56:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from server-18.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e8C9uoY06167 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:56:51 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200009120956.e8C9uoY06167@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 28274 invoked from network); 12 Sep 2000 09:52:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ukfw1.ge.boc.com) (193.131.2.157) by server-18.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 12 Sep 2000 09:52:26 -0000 Received: by excgfd01.uk.gases.boc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:56:20 +0100 From: "Cahill,Maria" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Flat to let Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:40:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Maybe not the right forum but I thought I might be doing myself and someone else a favour! 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However, it is still recommended that you use local virus scanning software to monitor for the presence of viruses. ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 12 13:16:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8CCEQf02933 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:14:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8CCENp02915 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:14:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from quasar.wds.org (fwproxy.hughsym.co.uk [193.115.216.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8CCEM817394 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:14:22 +0100 (BST) Received: by quasar.wds.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:14:07 +0100 Message-ID: <8C9F2D249B48D411ADD700508BA373221E046F@quasar.wds.org> From: Adriano Vitali To: "'britdisc'" , "'superfly@egroups.com'" Subject: FW: An alternative to Barcelona... Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:13:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed [SMTP:Andreas_Glindemann@public.uni-hamburg.de] > Sent: 12 September 2000 11:59 > To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de > Subject: An alternative to Barcelona... > > Hi, folks, > > failed to register in time at the Barcelona beach tournament in > October ? > > Still want to have this weekend with Spanish sun, beach and > ultimate ? > > Fischbees Ultimate Club Hamburg is thinking of setting up a wild > Pick Up / hat tourney the same weekend on the island of Mallorca. > > In case you're interested, want to be kept informed or can be of any > assistance get in contact with us. > > Ed > > > Did you know ? - fischbees love to dive ! > > www.fischbees.de !!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 13 00:05:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8CMR2Y00933 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:27:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8CMR0R00925 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:27:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com (neodymium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.83]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8CMPF805823 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:25:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.7.39.68] (helo=8945cjm20378) by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13YyTi-0003QW-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:24:35 +0100 Message-ID: <003201c01d08$1e37ef60$4427073e@8945cjm20378> From: "Laura Pearce" To: "britdisc" Subject: Womens Co-ordinator Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:11:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C01D0E.B8DCCE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C01D0E.B8DCCE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The position of Women's Co-ordinator will become vacant at the AGM, so = this message is to anyone out there who may be interested in taking over = this role.=20 =20 A brief description of the role is as follows:=20 =20 1. To maintain an up-to-date contact list of female players (in = conjunction with the BUF Secretary)=20 2. To ensure that a Women's Indoor Nationals and a Women's Outdoor = Nationals take place, although the postholder does not necessarily have = to organise them=20 3. Find ways to encourage more women to play in general, regardless of = preference of division.(E.g. regional/general practices, tournaments = other than nationals events, investigate any problems/difficulties = female players may face, look at ways for teams to recruit and keep more = female players etc. NB - these are just suggestions and are by no means = set in stone.)=20 4. Generally, to represent the interests of women playing ultimate.=20 =20 =20 Anyone that is interested in either taking on the role, or being = involved, should contact me for more information.=20 =20 Laura Pearce=20 BUF National Director=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C01D0E.B8DCCE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C01D0E.B8DCCE40-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 13 14:41:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8DDc7S08014 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:38:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8DDc4R08008 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:38:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from haymarket.ed.ac.uk (haymarket.ed.ac.uk [129.215.128.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8DDc4802387 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:38:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by haymarket.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24067 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:37:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <39BF83A4.50FC9B3E@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:39:48 +0100 From: Tim Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Annoying commercial messages! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if it is possible to filter out commercial messages from Britdisc? I guess the problem is identifying those messages, so is it possible to just make a convention, where say the word "ultimate" appears in a signiture or somewhere in the message, and those messages which have not got this word get filtered out? Incidently, I am not too bothered about it, and don't expect anyone to spend any time doing it. It would just be nice. Enough disclaimers. Tim RSB From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 13 20:58:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8DJtsw08291 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:55:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8DJtrR08285 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:55:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtcmta04.totalserve.net ([213.27.0.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8DJtl801264 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:55:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from default ([213.27.43.137]) by mtcmta04.totalserve.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G0UCL704.36P; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:53:31 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c01dbb$394cd3c0$892b1bd5@default> From: "Alastair Findlay" To: "Tim Rogers" , References: <39BF83A4.50FC9B3E@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Annoying commercial messages! Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:45:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk errrrrrr. which annoying commercial messages would those be?????????? I cant remember seeing any. ALi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Rogers" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:39 PM Subject: Annoying commercial messages! > Does anyone know if it is possible to filter out commercial messages > from Britdisc? I guess the problem is identifying those messages, so is > it possible to just make a convention, where say the word "ultimate" > appears in a signiture or somewhere in the message, and those messages > which have not got this word get filtered out? > > Incidently, I am not too bothered about it, and don't expect anyone to > spend any time doing it. It would just be nice. > > Enough disclaimers. > > Tim > RSB > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 13 21:56:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8DKsvc16123 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:54:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8DKsuR16118 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:54:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8DKstY20984 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:54:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben ([195.146.165.187]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09791 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:00:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <000e01c01dc5$3f9d2540$bba592c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Mixed Nationals - Leicester 30th Sept & 1st Oct. Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:02:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A reminder for teams taking part in the 2000 Mixed Nationals. You need to send a £90 cheque to 'Red Ultimate Club' PO Box 1075 Leicester LE2 1YQ The tournament will be held on the cricket pitches on Victoria Park Leicester (as per '99 nationals). We've got a great free party lined up with a Ska band and booze promotions. And of course there's those curries...... Deadline for entry is the open nationals. I would however prefer it if teams could stick a cheque in the post before then. Seeya Ben Red 10 0116 2559638 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 14 09:32:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8E8UNZ19089 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:30:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8E8UMR19084 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:30:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from lala.eng.gla.ac.uk (lala.eng.gla.ac.uk [130.209.176.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8E8UMY21105 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:30:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from vlsilab2.elec.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.176.142] helo=vlsilab2) by lala.eng.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13ZUOf-0006iX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:29:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:29:04 +0100 (BST) From: "Todd C. Kleckner" X-Sender: tck@vlsilab2 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Glastonbury - the beginning, middle and end bits. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It all started when 2 boys woke up in a cloud. In a way it was the perfect start. Or a perfect start. Eilers and Soundsystem Matt woke up on the top of Glastonbury Tor with tennis ball mouth, a retired junkie for company and no sign of the ground. They should have guessed that it would be the start of something beautiful. The retired junkie was called Ben, and he showed them where the chalice well was and how there was a red spring and a white spring. In return they gave him a light and invited him to the Gunslinger. They had to leave him then as there was so much to do. They only had one free day in a town which offered penguin hats, plastic birds nests and a shop owned by a man who had changed his name to Rob Free Cannabis. Needless to say, they spent their time wisely and by the time the outlaws started arriving all essential purchases had been made, relations were established with the local councillor ("You might be offered various substances. Be careful. Some are pretty poor quality." - he is the dean), and our flag was flying. Substance Abuse hosted their first tournament, and if you ask me, it wasn't bad at all. If you asked Madam Mayor of Glastonbury, it was the best thing that had happened since Adam and Eve ran out of apples* and wanted some exercise. Actually, if pushed, we'd probably agree with her. After all, there was sunshine, constant victuals and bevvy, flat green fields, 12 teams of beautiful people, a whole town of people who thought that frisbees were brilliant and weren't afraid to smile about it, a mechanical bull (and some pretty ace rodeo riders), a gun, frontier bourbon for all, skanking sounds broadcast live from the roof of the pavillion by the monkey-o-matic sound system, a club for Heroes, and everyones favourite trans-continental moustachioed cyclist called Everett (check him out at http://www.new-millennium-ride.org ) and authentic (ye-haw!) texans. Thanks for your services friends and keep on rolling. People came and played. And they finished in something like the following order (reverse, I think) ..? Bessie and the Mootones Mwnci See Blue Broncos Sneekys Bears Substance Abuse BAF MMJ (*winners of the Wyatt Earp trophy) Superfly (*spirit winners, and unlucky victims of Cypriot Ouzo) Point Blank Fever RED (*winners of the brass spurs) Other notables: 1. To the person who woke up the commune with deafening vomit on Sunday morning. Aces. Welcome to the wonderful world of rockstardom. 2. To the top cowboy/cowgirl of the weekend, as demonstrated on the mechanical bull: Eilers(SA) - 45s (*winner of a bullet-holed cowboy hat) Elisabeth(SA) - 32 seconds and honorable(?) mention to Jack (SF) with 41/2? seconds 3. Apologies to the victim of Glen's vicious yo-yoing on the Friday night and even more apologies for the laughter that erupted. 4. Thanks to MMJ for throwing up .. cash for the most corrupt beer race known to mankind. May you kids never out do yourself .. Thanks for coming. Aces, fly high, see y'all next time. And practice up on your draw, kids ... cause you'll never know what might roll into town next year. Substance Abuse Inc. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 14 11:42:27 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8EAeWV09911 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:40:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8EAeUR09902 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:40:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from bakery ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8EAeP815610 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:40:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.172.31.138] (helo=ianstebb) by bakery with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13ZWRM-0006d3-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:40:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01c01e38$c4cc5060$8a1fac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed nationals- are you coming? Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:42:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Today is the day I need to hear from you folks about coming to Mixed Nationals. Although the entry deadline is Sept. 23, rostes have to be submitted before then so they can be checked. I can't send you the from if I don't know your mailing address. I need to hear from: Wage Mild Mannered Janitors Mud Culture (a former woman player of yours -Alia- emailed me and wants to play, does that help? she doesn't have your contact details) Superfly More Mild Mannered Janitors Also, spaces are still available for any other team that played in thh mixed series this summer. If I don't hear from you by tommorrow, you're not coming. Nancy Red From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 14 11:50:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8EAo7011781 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:50:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8EAo6R11775 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:50:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from gw-nl4.philips.com (gw-nl4.philips.com [192.68.44.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8EAnt816623 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:50:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl4.philips.com with ESMTP id LAA22982 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:50:37 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from hannah.easter@philips.com) From: hannah.easter@philips.com Received: from smtprelay-eur1.philips.com(130.139.36.3) by gw-nl4.philips.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma022980; Thu, 14 Sep 00 11:50:37 +0200 Received: from notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (notessmtp-nl1.philips.com [130.139.36.10]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA15347 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:50:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (emlms01sv1.diamond.philips.com [130.143.165.213]) by notessmtp-nl1.philips.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id LAA17207 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:50:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by EMLMS01.DIAMOND.PHILIPS.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 4.0) with snapi via EMEA1 id 0056900011796343; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:57:26 +0200 To: Subject: worlds photos Message-ID: <0056900011796343000002L032*@MHS> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:57:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 09/14/00 11:46:34" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8EAo6R11776 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, Can someone mail me the web address's of some of the photos from worlds! Hannah ps Has John Hope re done his site yet? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 14 23:07:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8EM5jW24816 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:05:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8EM5hR24811 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:05:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f73.hotmail.com [216.32.181.73]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8EM5gY19402 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:05:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:05:25 -0700 Received: from 212.134.23.184 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:05:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.134.23.184] From: "roger bralow" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: pick up for nationals Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 22:05:25 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2000 22:05:25.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2B854C0:01C01E97] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm an australian frisbee player recently arrived in London and would like to pick up with any team for nationals or mixed nationals. If anyone has a spot, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks roger _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 15 00:32:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8ENVBk13403 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:31:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8ENV6R13382 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:31:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8ENV5Y28175 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:31:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13ZiT2-000I1m-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:30:57 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 23:55:02 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Roster Query re: Nationals References: <01C01B70.B7E502E0@host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com> In-Reply-To: <01C01B70.B7E502E0@host213-120-10-89.host.btclick.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk FAO Chris Hughes, Can you just reiterate/confirm the roster situation for Nationals again - I've overheard several teams trying to remember how to apply this years Rules. My reading/interpretation of this years Rules is: Roster additions had to be completed before 1 July 2000, but each team going to Nationals is allowed ONE (and only one) Guest. Players that have been Rostered for a team that did not qualify for Nationals may NOT play at Nationals as a Guest. BUT, players that were Unrostered during the Tour (whether they didn't play, played for an Unrostered Team, or spent the entire time Guesting) may play as Guests at Nationals. Is my reading/interpretation correct? Do teams have to tell someone official (who?) by some deadline (when?) who they intend to field as Guests? Wayne Retter Fluid Druids PS: Can Chris/Ben/Skunks confirm that Skunks were unrostered during the Tour, please. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 15 11:37:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8FAZXA13720 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:35:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FAZWR13715 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:35:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (exim@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk [131.111.36.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FAZR827717 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:35:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from gcf (helo=localhost) by mole.bio.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk id 13Zspi-00NgkN-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:35:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:35:02 +0100 (BST) From: Graham C Fletcher Reply-To: Graham C Fletcher To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Nationals: Directions, food, accommodation and the BUF AGM. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, A website has now been constructed with most of the relevant details for the Nationals, thanks to David Mackay. It can be found at http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/nationals2000/ and it includes details about: Directions and Maps. The format. Please note the Schedule is provisional and may change, however, if there are any changes made I will email Britdisc. N.B When you look at the website it may or may not have been updated. The correct start time on Saturday is 9.20, not 9.00. Captains can pick up team information and the pitch layout map from 9.00-9.20am. The 9.00am start on Saturday down on the website is incorrect and will be updated soon. Accommodation. Unfortunately there is no college accommodation available due to conferences and an alumni weekend. There are two sites with some B and B's and guesthouses on them and I have listed the ones that are within walking distance of the fields and or the city centre. We have limited floorspace available, this will be allocated on the basis of who needs it (i.e. student teams, teams travelling from further away), who replies first and who has put Strange Blue up in the past. Please sort out your accommodation soon as the alumni weekend may put pressure on accommodation. How to enter (if you haven't already sent a cheque, you should hurry up). Apparantly post may be disrupted over the weekend so please email me to confirm that a cheque is on the way. Catering and social events. We will have a BBQ on field and there is a Sainsburys nearby. Hot drink vending machines can be found in Abbey Pool. I'm still looking into finding a bookable venue to meet up at on Saturday. By the way, there is no pavilion/bar on site, so bring rain gear and your own beer if you want it. The BUF AGM. The BUF AGM will take place on Saturday evening. A room in Darwin College has been booked and we'll have directions/maps available at the weekend. Cheers, Graham. P.S. Any questions before the event I'll try to answer. On the weekend Dora Kemp is going to be tournament director and will run things. ----------------------------------------------------- Graham Fletcher, 12A Amwell Rd, Cambrdge, CB4 2UH 01223 709469 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 15 13:35:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8FCX8g00106 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:33:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FCX7R00099 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:33:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FCX6Y09491 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:33:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-47-140.host.btclick.com ([213.120.47.140]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000915123110.GHYU26996.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host213-120-47-140.host.btclick.com> for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:31:10 +0100 Received: by host213-120-47-140.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C01F18.F9D16620@host213-120-47-140.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:29:29 +0100 Message-ID: <01C01F18.F9D16620@host213-120-47-140.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Calling Doughboys! Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:24:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8FCX7R00101 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies to the rest. Doughboys - Last year at Nationals, somehow, you managed to win Spirit.:-) I seem to recall giving the trophy to Sky, and telling him that we wanted it back at some stage, and not to ship it out of the country. Sky - have you got still got it? Are you still in the country? If so can you let me know and can you bring it to Cambridge. If not can you hunt down the present incumbent of the award, and make sure through fair means or foul that they get it to Cambridge. Can the rest of the Doughpeople assist in making sure the trophy returns to Cambridge, and can someone let me know that it has be located and that plans are afoot. Thanks Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 15 14:02:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8FD1KF04885 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FD1IR04875 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:01:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FD1FY12956 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 14:01:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from ejpurdie.demon.co.uk ([193.237.55.200] helo=purdie.co.uk) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13Zv7A-000E1k-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:01:12 +0000 Received: from ejpcomp017 by purdie.co.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.4.R) for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:40:19 +0100 Message-ID: <00cb01c01f12$23bf5cf0$1101a8c0@purdie.co.uk> From: "John Purdie" To: "britdisc" Subject: flights to Barcelona for Porron - get in quick! Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:40:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C01F1A.854E5D10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: john.purdie@purdie.co.uk X-MDRcpt-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C01F1A.854E5D10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00C8_01C01F1A.854E5D10" ------=_NextPart_001_00C8_01C01F1A.854E5D10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New Page 1have just booked my flight to Barca for the Porron Beach T had been getting prices well in excess of =A3200 however, my flight cost me =A3129 inc tax !!!!!!!! try Cheapflights for the last few seats on a BA special offer from = Gatwick only here are my notes: BRET 0208 565 3020 direct or 0870 3334488 main no. - barca flights thurs 26th - gat 1330 - barca 1640 -=20 mon 30th - barca 1735 - gat 1855 =A3129 inc tax ba direct good luck john purdie ------=_NextPart_001_00C8_01C01F1A.854E5D10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New Page 1
have just booked my flight to Barca for the Porron Beach T
 
had been getting prices well in excess of =A3200
 
however, my flight cost me =A3129 inc tax !!!!!!!!
 
try Cheapflights for the last few seats on a BA special offer from = Gatwick=20 only
 
here are my notes:
 
BRET 0208 565 3020 direct or 0870 3334488 main no.   - barca=20 flights
thurs 26th  - gat 1330 - barca 1640 -
mon 30th  = - barca=20 1735 - gat 1855
=A3129 inc tax
ba direct
 
good luck
 
john purdie
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t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FIKG816668 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:20:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from host213-120-37-29.host.btclick.com ([213.120.37.29]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20000915181913.JOOG14498.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-120-37-29.host.btclick.com> for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:19:13 +0100 Received: by host213-120-37-29.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C01F49.7C6150C0@host213-120-37-29.host.btclick.com>; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:16:44 +0100 Message-ID: <01C01F49.7C6150C0@host213-120-37-29.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Calling UTI! Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:14:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8FIKHR19484 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk UTI people. Following the failure of the tour trophy to Turn up to the tournament Roger appears to be putting in an early bid for the rest of your trophy cabinet. So can whichever UTI player has got it please bring it along - so that at least he can see what it looks like at the weekend :-) ---------- From: Roger Thomson[SMTP:roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk] Sent: 15 September 2000 14:04 To: 'Chris Hughes ' Subject: RE: Calling Doughboys! Didn't UTI fail to bring the Tour trophy to Leeds? Who won Nationals last year? Better make sure they bring that as well....unless you have it already. rt -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hughes To: 'Britdisc' Sent: 15/09/00 13:24 Subject: Calling Doughboys! Apologies to the rest. Doughboys - Last year at Nationals, somehow, you managed to win Spirit.:-) I seem to recall giving the trophy to Sky, and telling him that we wanted it back at some stage, and not to ship it out of the country. Sky - have you got still got it? Are you still in the country? If so can you let me know and can you bring it to Cambridge. If not can you hunt down the present incumbent of the award, and make sure through fair means or foul that they get it to Cambridge. Can the rest of the Doughpeople assist in making sure the trophy returns to Cambridge, and can someone let me know that it has be located and that plans are afoot. Thanks Chris Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 15 23:58:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8FMuW716194 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:56:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8FMuTR16184 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:56:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e8FMuTY07467 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:56:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.24.12] (root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13a4OX-0002Xc-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:55:45 +0100 Received: from kauy7 by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13a4PY-0004Q6-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:56:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:56:48 +0100 (BST) From: Sarah Davis To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: picking up for mixed nationals. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having played in two of the mixed tour events I would really like to play at mixed nationals. Unfortunately Mohawks have had loads of trouble getting female players and we are therefore unable to enter a team. So I'm looking to pick up, if anyone is short of women and would appreciate another female player please e-mail me at . Sheep (Mohawks) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Sep 17 23:35:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8HMXAx02237 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:33:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8HMX7R02227 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:33:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8HMWx814762; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:32:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dailup112.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.112]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA24882; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:36:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001d01c020f7$a06ec9c0$70a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: 2000 BUF AGM Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:33:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, The BUF AGM will be held at 8:30pm on Saturday 23rd September in the Old Library, Darwin College, Cambridge. An agenda plus details of the motions are attached below. We would encourage all teams to send a representative. To aid this, we will allow teams not playing at the National Finals to nominate a proxy to represent them provided they inform us in advance. The two main motions which are being tabled would introduce changes to the format of the Tour and Nationals. We would therefore urge all the teams taking part in the National Finals to send at least one representative (maximum is two). In light of the protracted debate which took place at last years AGM we will be running a tight schedule which must finish at 10pm as that is when our booking of the Old Library finishes. Darwin is on the South side of Silver Street, just east of Queens Road. If you wish to park nearby, try Silver Street; the nearest reliable parking place is a car park off Barton Road (5 minutes walk South of Darwin). Small scale map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?P2M?P=CB39EU&Z=1 Large scale map: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=544551&Y=257932&A=Y&Z=3 Apologies to anyone who receives this email twice. Regards, Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation Phone 07092 175365 ================================================== AGENDA Apologies for Absence Minutes of the Last Meeting Officers Reports Election of Officers Motion: Modification of the Tour Motion: Change of Nationals Format Any Other Business Date of Next Meeting Toast to the Spirit of the Game ================================================== PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BUF TOUR AND NATIONALS STRUCTURE Full details of the proposed changes can be found at http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/tour2001.htm Please read them! Below is a brief summary........... The Tour:- The proposal puts forward a split in the tour events to generate an A tour and B tour. After the 1st event (which will remain an open format) the tour will split with 12 teams in the A tour, and the rest in the B tour. There will be promotion and relegation of two teams after each event, from T2 onwards. The scoring system will progress from winners of the A event down through to the last placed team, as in the present system. The system does little more than emphasise a split already present in the tour structure, and remove the requirement of large venues. The A and B Tour may still occur in the same location when the facilities are suitable, but allows the ability to split the events should requirement dictate it. This will have very little effect on the majority of teams other than improve the standards of venue, and the quality of tournament at their level. Nationals:- The proposal puts Nationals as a cup type event with a 16 team knock-out, with seeding based on the tour. This will provide the test of teams to perform on the day, when required. It allows a more open format where seeding is not important allowing teams to recover from bad results in the tour. It covers the top 16 so that those teams involved in promotion & relegation are not disadvantaged. At this stage it does not significantly reduce the number of quality games for the top teams, but allows the weaker teams to improve knowing that they can get a similar improvement in results. The format also allows the event to held in smaller venues, and later in the season without light becoming an issue. This allows expansion of the season, with the possibility of holding more tour or mixed tour events, yet still having Nationals as the curtain call. Nationals would still be used as qualification for BUF invited events, but the BUF will reserve the right to invite teams who are deemed suitable if required. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 18 12:26:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8IBOha04501 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:24:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IBOfR04491 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:24:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from exchange.integra-europe.co.uk ([193.123.31.169]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IBOcY24636 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:24:40 +0100 (BST) Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:27:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: Mike Beaton To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:27:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I guess only one person needs to send this message; no one else has yet... I can confirm that more than one person is seeing annoying commercial messages sent via britdisc - I certainly get them too, about one a week; they are spam in my inbox, usually from _fairly_ reputable sounding companies, always with 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' in the 'from', 'to' or 'cc' and no other sign that they should have been addressed to me. It would be a fair bet that Tim and me are not the only people seeing them. For anyone who's planning to look into it: I don't have any copies to send as I just delete them straight away - I could forward any more that I see to anybody who cares. I agree with Tim, they are currently below the 'seriously annoying' threshold. Mike (Sharks). -----Original Message----- From: Alastair Findlay [mailto:Alastair@ultimate.totalserve.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2000 20:46 To: Tim Rogers; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Annoying commercial messages! errrrrrr. which annoying commercial messages would those be?????????? I cant remember seeing any. ALi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Rogers" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:39 PM Subject: Annoying commercial messages! > Does anyone know if it is possible to filter out commercial messages > from Britdisc? I guess the problem is identifying those messages, so is > it possible to just make a convention, where say the word "ultimate" > appears in a signiture or somewhere in the message, and those messages > which have not got this word get filtered out? > > Incidently, I am not too bothered about it, and don't expect anyone to > spend any time doing it. It would just be nice. > > Enough disclaimers. > > Tim > RSB > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 18 13:07:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8IC5IT10849 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:05:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IC5GR10840 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:05:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IC5E801739 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:05:14 +0100 (BST) X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Mon, 18 Sep 00 13:04:32 +0100 X-WebMail-UserID: jgoolden Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:04:32 +0100 From: Jack Goolden To: britdisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: nationals Message-ID: <39D7CAFC@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.01 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anybody want a lift from South London? Leaving early Saturday morning. I have room for up to three. Jack Chevron From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 18 16:01:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8IEvft10025 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:57:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IEvcR10018 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:57:38 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:58:40 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Organization: Manchester Metropolitan University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:41:19 GMT Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! Hi, re: annoying commercial messages When I was setting up britdisc-daily, I discovered that you don't need to be su*scribed to britdisc to send a mesage to it. Whilst this was great for my project (it meant people could su*scribe to bd-daily, unsu*cribe from britdisc, and still send message to britdisc), it does mean that any commercial spammer could get hold of britdisc's address and send spam to it. I think that's why it happens, what to do about it is difficult to say (if I knew the answer, I'd be a e-millionaire by now). Of course, you could always join britdisc-daily... http://www.egroups.com/group/britdisc-daily (or email me for more info). Love & Luck, Lozza Night Fever BD-Daily's Mr Moderater From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 18 17:14:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8IGCGg02680 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:12:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IGCCR02643 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:12:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f106.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.106]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IGCBY29644 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 17:12:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:12:04 -0700 Received: from 129.11.119.146 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:12:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.119.146] From: "Matthew Hims" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A New Leeds Geo-Team. Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:12:04 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2000 16:12:04.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F3EF600:01C0218B] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am please to announce the creation of a new Geo club, hailing from mighty Leeds. The new team (nameless at the moment) brings together players from Mild Mannered Janitors, Jedi, UTI and Catch22......however we are still recruiting players! So this is an open invitation to anyone in the Yorkshire area who would like to play in a team who will train together on a weekly basis and who will hopefully be competing for top five places in the tour next year. We are planning to have our first training session on the Saturday 14th of October, followed by a few jars of ale I suspect. If your interested let me know and come along on the 14th. Cheers Bob (22) ------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Hims Molecular Medicine Unit e.mail mmhims@hotmail.com Clinical Sciences Building Tel. 0113 2064120 (work) St James's University Hospital 0113 3683741 (home) Leeds LS9 7TF ------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 18 20:56:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8IJsC326133 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:54:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IJsBR26126 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:54:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IJsA818098 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:54:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dailup33.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.33]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17142 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:58:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009901c021aa$9b5575c0$21a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: References: Subject: Re: Annoying commercial messages! Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:26:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, When I get around to it, I intend to look at a replacement for Britdisc, something along the lines of a premium Egroups, Smartgroups or Listbot account. Because we know there are people out there who want to be kept informed but would prefer to miss out on the flame wars we are considering splitting Britdisc into two separate lists. One would be purely for the debating society and the other would be an announcement-only list. Does this meet with everyone's approval? Cheers Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Beaton To: Sent: 18 September 2000 12:27 Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! > I guess only one person needs to send this message; no one else has yet... > > I can confirm that more than one person is seeing annoying commercial > messages sent via britdisc - I certainly get them too, about one a week; > they are spam in my inbox, usually from _fairly_ reputable sounding > companies, always with 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' in the 'from', 'to' or > 'cc' and no other sign that they should have been addressed to me. > > It would be a fair bet that Tim and me are not the only people seeing them. > > For anyone who's planning to look into it: I don't have any copies to send > as I just delete them straight away - I could forward any more that I see to > anybody who cares. I agree with Tim, they are currently below the 'seriously > annoying' threshold. > > Mike (Sharks). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alastair Findlay [mailto:Alastair@ultimate.totalserve.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, 13 September 2000 20:46 > To: Tim Rogers; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Annoying commercial messages! > > > errrrrrr. which annoying commercial messages would those be?????????? > I cant remember seeing any. > > ALi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Rogers" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 2:39 PM > Subject: Annoying commercial messages! > > > > Does anyone know if it is possible to filter out commercial messages > > from Britdisc? I guess the problem is identifying those messages, so is > > it possible to just make a convention, where say the word "ultimate" > > appears in a signiture or somewhere in the message, and those messages > > which have not got this word get filtered out? > > > > Incidently, I am not too bothered about it, and don't expect anyone to > > spend any time doing it. It would just be nice. > > > > Enough disclaimers. > > > > Tim > > RSB > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 18 21:39:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8IKc0i00180 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:38:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IKbwR00172 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:37:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8IKbt820257 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:37:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dailup150.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.150]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17812; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:42:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <02f401c021b0$b6c68c80$96a592c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: , "BRITDISC" Subject: FAO David Bishop Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:40:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could David Bishop from No Frills/DSM please get in contact. Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 11:43:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JAem521706 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:40:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JAejR21688 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:40:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JAeh800215 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:40:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA27893 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:45:20 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200009191045.LAA27893@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:59:24 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e8JAekR21690 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 23 SEPTEMBER 2000 (1 DAYS) - BUF AGM Location: Cambridge (See Nationals for details) - [Outdoor Ultimate, Indoor Ultimate] The AGM will be held on the evening of Saturday 23rd September in the Old Library, Darwin College. 8:30pm start. 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Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 12:13:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JBBob25912 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:11:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JBBnR25906 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:11:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from box.digitalasylum.co.uk (box.uu.digitalasylum.co.uk [195.217.170.186]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JBBmY06285 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:11:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from MORPHEUS (morpheus.uu.digitalasylum.co.uk [195.217.170.161]) by box.digitalasylum.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA29092 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:09:45 +0100 From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:17:15 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You know, I still don't see what people's problems are with BritDisc. True, I've still never got round to making the archive site more friendly, and have little motivation to do this at present (it was hacked together quickly because after about 9 months, someone wanted something they'd deleted). If anyone wants to do a proper archive, I have a copy of all messages from about the 40th. eGroups and all the rest won't offer you the advantages you think you'll get. It certainly won't prevent spam. In fact, it'll probably make you more open to spam as the mailing address is so much easier to find. And it'll certainly force you to look at advertising chosen by eGroups and every message will have the usual eGroups advertising at the bottom. All mail coming to Britdisc is filtered through Warwick's spam filters, so most spam will be rejected before it even gets near the list. In addition, BritDisc is set up so that only members of the list can post. Also the limit of 40k per message is intentional - I deliberately set that up so that people wouldn't send Word documents to the list. It can be increased, but most people don't want to receive big mails as they're connecting from dial-up. I've seen this touted as a limitation of BritDisc. It is not. In fact, all you gain by moving to eGroups is by having a "pretty" web interface to subscribe and manage the list. Most intelligent people can follow the subscription instructions, and managing the list only needs to be done by one person. This is all offset by having to make sure that everyone remembers to subscribe to the new group. And everyone having to use a web browser to change their account subscription. Yes, perhaps moving BritDisc to a more announcement role, and creating a discussion forum would be good. But I don't think eGroups is the way to go on that front; basically I'm opposed to having advertising subsidising our essentially private mail, when there are enough options for us doing it within the British Ultimate community. I'm going to look at available packages for a discussion mailing lists. Ralf -- Ranulf Doswell, Digital Asylum Limited Phone: 024 7663 2767 (intl +4424 7663 2767) Fax: 024 7663 4370 (intl +4424 7663 4370) Mobile: 07968 199 662 (intl +4479 6819 9662) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of British Ultimate > Federation > Sent: 18 September 2000 19:27 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Annoying commercial messages! > > > Dear all, > > When I get around to it, I intend to look at a replacement for Britdisc, > something along the lines of a premium Egroups, Smartgroups or Listbot > account. Because we know there are people out there who want to be kept > informed but would prefer to miss out on the flame wars we are considering > splitting Britdisc into two separate lists. One would be purely for the > debating society and the other would be an announcement-only list. > > Does this meet with everyone's approval? > > Cheers > > Ben Ravilious > Secretary > British Ultimate Federation > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 13:31:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JCTYc06871 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:29:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JCTXR06866 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:29:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.bibliotech.net (IDENT:0@smtp1.bibliotech.net [212.57.32.22]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JCTW810388 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:29:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from pm-web1.bibliotech.net (pm-web1.bibliotech.net [10.0.100.50]) by smtp1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15085 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:29:27 +0100 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pm-web1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30102; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:29:27 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Re: RE: Annoying commercial messages! To: BritDisc Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:29:26 +0100 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Tue Sep 19 13:29:26 2000; Local host: pm-web1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Ranulf Doswell" wrote: >You know, I still don't see what people's problems are >with BritDisc. Ralf, BritDisc does work well. Ultimate in the UK would probably be somewhat smaller and less informed without it (anyone received a tournament invite in the post recently?). I think that the main problem seems to be that it's just a bit "old"... and therefore just doesn't seem as "pretty" or "gadgety" as some of the newer systems available. As a manager of several eGroups lists, I see flaws in most of your arguments against their system. (There's a large amount of configuration options). However, you may indeed be correct that what such providers offer may not be what we're really looking for. As for the "Annoying commercial messages"... some have come from legitimately subscribed Ultimate players that are involved in share dealing or marketing pyramids (as a money spinning hobby, I guess). If we'd prefer that they didn't do this, I guess that we should ask them nicely to refrain. In the meantime, the occaisional use of the "delete" key seems to work quite well. Wayne Retter PS: I get messages to email accounts no longer on BD, where it looks as though someone has joined the list, acquired the membership listing from the majordomo system and then set up in their own list from it to Spam. That's more annoying to me. -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 13:31:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JCSmZ06738 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:28:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JCSkR06729 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:28:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.rmplc.net (dns0.rmplc.net [194.238.48.13]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JCSf810303 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:28:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mail.rmplc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA19127 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:28:40 +0100 (BST) Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:28:38 +0100 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270808CC93@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:28:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To add to Ranulf's post - i don't see a need for two mailing lists. If you split the list into two, you'll just complicate the issue. Also, eGroups have moved their adverts to the TOP of every mail, which is pretty irritating. The solution is to pay for a premium service - what's the point of that when it's currently free? You can limit your flow of traffice by receiving a daily digest if you want - that's an eGroup set up by Lawrence P. In my opinion, BD is fine as it is. The "debates" are occasional, and the flame wars pretty rare these days - surely there isn't enough traffic to warrant the change that some people feel necessary? Andy Chevron STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 14:01:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JD0Y910909 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:00:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JD0WR10899 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:00:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mrelay-b.lmu.ac.uk (mrelay-b.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.17]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JD0WY18390 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:00:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from [160.9.35.1] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by mrelay-b.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13bN4q-0002Hk-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:04:48 +0100 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:08:05 +0100 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC016597AC@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Calling UTI! Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:02:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Until Tour 4, both the Nationals Trophy and the Ben Rainbow Tour Trophy were at our house in Leeds. This is because Rik Shipley (of UTI) lives there. After Tour 4, Harvey and Doug (Doughboy) were presented with the Tour Trophy in a small, private ceremony. Rik still has the Nationals Trophy and will bring it with him on Saturday. Ben Mitchell Chevron Action Flash > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Hughes [SMTP:cjhughes@talk21.com] > Sent: 15 September 2000 15:14 > To: 'Britdisc' > Subject: Calling UTI! > > UTI people. > > Following the failure of the tour trophy to Turn up to the tournament Roger appears to be putting in an early bid for the rest of your trophy cabinet. > > So can whichever UTI player has got it please bring it along - so that at least he can see what it looks like at the weekend :-) > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 14:07:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JD70G11861 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:07:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JD6xR11855 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:06:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (IDENT:root@[195.153.207.133]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JD6v814063 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:06:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from fetchmail.com (IDENT:web@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk [195.153.207.133]) by 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03081 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:06:51 +0100 Message-Id: <200009191306.OAA03081@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) From: "Ben Ravilious" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Annoying commercial messages! Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:06:50 0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ralf and others, I was considering maybe looking at paying for a premium service from one of the commercial list companies and most of these are full of different settings to regulate who can or cannot post to them. I think a bit more research is warranted to find out whats available out there. I'm not proposing we ditch BD instantly. On the subject of whether Britdisc is great or not, can I draw it's supporters attention to the glaring self-selection issue here! Those who have replied in favour have done so because they are subscribed to Britdisc (and presumably like it!). I know for a fact that there are many players who are not on Britdisc. This is either by choice or because their work forbids them to subscribe to discussion lists. There's no doubt we're going to need something a little more sophisticated than one giant list as the sport grows. As far as an announcement-only list is concerned, we (the organisation that is) may want to reserve the right to email all members in a future association set-up. Whether we do this with a formal eGroup or just a private CC list remains to be seen. I'm also looking into the possibility of setting up a text message service. Anyone know of any funky technology out there? As I said, paid-for services are something we can consider if its worth it. Ben > You know, I still don't see what people's problems are with BritDisc. True, > I've still never got round to making the archive site more friendly, and > have little motivation to do this at present (it was hacked together quickly > because after about 9 months, someone wanted something they'd deleted). If > anyone wants to do a proper archive, I have a copy of all messages from > about the 40th. > > eGroups and all the rest won't offer you the advantages you think you'll > get. It certainly won't prevent spam. In fact, it'll probably make you more > open to spam as the mailing address is so much easier to find. And it'll > certainly force you to look at advertising chosen by eGroups and every > message will have the usual eGroups advertising at the bottom. > > All mail coming to Britdisc is filtered through Warwick's spam filters, so > most spam will be rejected before it even gets near the list. In addition, > BritDisc is set up so that only members of the list can post. > > Also the limit of 40k per message is intentional - I deliberately set that > up so that people wouldn't send Word documents to the list. It can be > increased, but most people don't want to receive big mails as they're > connecting from dial-up. I've seen this touted as a limitation of BritDisc. > It is not. > > In fact, all you gain by moving to eGroups is by having a "pretty" web > interface to subscribe and manage the list. Most intelligent people can > follow the subscription instructions, and managing the list only needs to be > done by one person. This is all offset by having to make sure that everyone > remembers to subscribe to the new group. And everyone having to use a web > browser to change their account subscription. > > Yes, perhaps moving BritDisc to a more announcement role, and creating a > discussion forum would be good. But I don't think eGroups is the way to go > on that front; basically I'm opposed to having advertising subsidising our > essentially private mail, when there are enough options for us doing it > within the British Ultimate community. I'm going to look at available > packages for a discussion mailing lists. > > Ralf > -- > Ranulf Doswell, Digital Asylum Limited > Phone: 024 7663 2767 (intl +4424 7663 2767) > Fax: 024 7663 4370 (intl +4424 7663 4370) > Mobile: 07968 199 662 (intl +4479 6819 9662) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of British Ultimate > > Federation > > Sent: 18 September 2000 19:27 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: Re: Annoying commercial messages! > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > When I get around to it, I intend to look at a replacement for Britdisc, > > something along the lines of a premium Egroups, Smartgroups or Listbot > > account. Because we know there are people out there who want to be kept > > informed but would prefer to miss out on the flame wars we are considering > > splitting Britdisc into two separate lists. One would be purely for the > > debating society and the other would be an announcement-only list. > > > > Does this meet with everyone's approval? > > > > Cheers > > > > Ben Ravilious > > Secretary > > British Ultimate Federation > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 15:01:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JDxCD19689 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:59:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JDxAR19683 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:59:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from lemontree.org (lemontree.org [194.105.162.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JDx9818846 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:59:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from [10.10.10.80] by lemontree.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:04:04 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:55:32 +0100 Subject: Spam Mail From: "Andy (UK Online)" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0846B011B9A4D111A1EE006097DA4FCE027165B3@icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't want to be the one to say this, but.... ... this seems to be a lot of chat about a couple of spam mails that crop up once in a blue moon. It probably took most of us longer to get hot under the collar and respond to these, than to just delete them and accept that its part of the deal for having a nice easy mailing list. OK, I agree that its productive to talk about this kinda stuff and the way forward for Ultimate communication, but I'd be more concerned by the amount of potential players who aren't currently online. They are the ones who aren't be kept informed at all and we should be more interested in recruiting/retaining this group into the sport. Thoughts, musings, etc Andy C Falling Skies From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 15:44:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JEgAj26051 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:42:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JEg9R26045 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:42:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailgate2.bass.com ([152.134.49.71]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JEg8Y01363 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:42:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hqbrnsmtpalpha.bass.com (unverified) by mailgate2.bass.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:41:12 +0100 Received: by HQBRNSMTPALPHA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:35:03 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Taylor, Ruth (Britvic)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Desperately seeking Jester's thang! Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:39:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry Jester if you're out there - I'm not after what you think I'm after!! I've just trawled through the Britdisc Archive trying to find Jester's email that tells me where to find his Quicktime movie on the web. I failed. If anyone knows where I can find this, or knows whether it's even still out there, please get in contact. Thanks Ruth Red ********************************************************************** This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to whom it is addressed. Its contents are confidential and if you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and delete all records of the message from your computer. 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Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE tel: +44 20 7409 1919 ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 16:10:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JF9Ab00352 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:09:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JF99R00340 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:09:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from fizzle.bomb.co.uk ([194.70.235.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JF98827176 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:09:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from pacino (ip190.bomb.co.uk [194.70.235.190]) by fizzle.bomb.co.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e8JF92n27109; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:09:06 +0100 Message-Id: <200009191509.e8JF92n27109@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> X-Sender: barry@mail.endzone.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:08:55 +0100 To: "Taylor, Ruth (Britvic)" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "Barry O'Kane" Subject: Re: Desperately seeking Jester's thang! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ruth (et al), Back by popular demand.... "Jesters thang" ! http://www.endzone.co.uk/ultimate/ (It was originaly hosted by me - but was then taken down.) Barry At 03:39 PM 9/19/00 +0100, Taylor, Ruth (Britvic) wrote: >Sorry Jester if you're out there - I'm not after what you think I'm after!! > >I've just trawled through the Britdisc Archive trying to find Jester's email >that tells me where to find his Quicktime movie on the web. I failed. > >If anyone knows where I can find this, or knows whether it's even still out >there, please get in contact. > >Thanks >Ruth >Red > > > >********************************************************************** >This document is intended for, and should only be read by, those persons to >whom it is addressed. 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Any views or opinions >presented are solely those of the author. > >Bass PLC. 20, North Audley Street, London W1Y 1WE >tel: +44 20 7409 1919 >********************************************************************** > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 17:12:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JGB5109956 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JGB3R09938 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e8JGB2Y12536 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.0.185] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000809272 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:11:52 +0100 Message-ID: <39C7904E.7C16C7E0@deepend.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:12:29 +0100 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Desperately seeking Jester's thang! References: <200009191509.e8JF92n27109@fizzle.bomb.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ahhhhh . . . nice to have it up again. ;•) Jes* Barry O'Kane wrote: > Ruth (et al), > > Back by popular demand.... "Jesters thang" ! > > http://www.endzone.co.uk/ultimate/ > > (It was originaly hosted by me - but was then taken down.) > > Barry > >Sorry Jester if you're out there - I'm not after what you think I'm after!! > > > >I've just trawled through the Britdisc Archive trying to find Jester's email > >that tells me where to find his Quicktime movie on the web. I failed. > > > >If anyone knows where I can find this, or knows whether it's even still out > >there, please get in contact. > > > >Thanks > >Ruth > >Red > > > > -- Jester | Usability Designer Deepend | 44-46 Scrutton Street | London | EC2A 4QL T +44 (0)20 7247 2999 | F +44 (0)20 7247 9996 E jester@deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.co.uk | W www.deepend.com Number 1: Global New Media Creative Agency 2000 - AdAge From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 19 19:38:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8JIaRH28674 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:36:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JIaPR28660 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:36:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx (dfprxy01.prodigy.net.mx [148.235.168.40] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8JIaOY22962 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:36:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from prodigy.prodigy.net.mx (du-148-233-71-212.prodigy.net.mx) by SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with SMTP id <0G1500JZKCEGV4@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:23:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:50:05 -0500 From: Linda Anderson Subject: Ultimate in Mexico wants you! To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <000301c02266$e2db3800$d447e994@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C02227.5E9D2600" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C02227.5E9D2600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! My name is Linda Anderson, and I'm a beginning Ultimate player and = the Accomodations Coordinator that is helping organize the Ultimate = Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta. It is a hat tournament that is going to be = held just outside of Acapulco, Mexico, January 17-21, 2000 (Wednesday = through Sunday). We are writing to teams in the U.P.A. to make sure they = are aware of this tournament, which should be a lot of fun and is also = intended to help Ultimate grow in Mexico. Here's the scoop: The tournament: The arrival day isWednesday the 17th. Then on Thursday the 18th we are = planning on having a mellow day with lots of beach Ultimate, perhaps a = game or two on grass. This was to allow stragglers to arrive and give = everyone time to relax and get into vacation mode. On Friday and = Saturday the hat tournament would start, although some beach Ultimate = can be mixed in. On Sunday the 20th we would revert to vacation mode, = going back to the beach since nobody is going to want to play a final = after the Saturday night bash and also ensuring nobody misses anything = if they have to catch an early flight. As I mentioned, we have planned this tournament not only to have a good = time, but to help promote Ultimate in Mexico. A lot of people will be = invited to observe and learn, including PE teachers, government people, = and the media. In addition to watching the games they will be = participating in some clinics or presentations. Any help you might want = to give would be appreciated! The location: Pie de la Cuesta is a beach located about 25 minutes from downtown = Acapulco. It's a low-key, unspoiled, gorgeous beach that is famous for = its sunsets. It is bordered on one side by the Pacific and on the other = by a fresh-water lagoon on which you can kayak, waterski, etc. The = hotel, Parador del Sol, is the only five-star hotel in the area. You can = check out its web page at www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/ The tournament package is all-inclusive, which means it includes three = meals (all-you-can-eat buffets) per day and all sodas and "national = beverages" (tequila and beer, what more could you need??) you can = consume. If you have any energy to spare after playing disc, a variety = of sports are offered for free, although water skiing does cost extra. = The rooms are actually broken up into two-bedroom villas, all with = air-conditioning and private terraces with hammocks. Please note that = the tournament price is for double occupancy, that is, two people to a = room. Other fun: We are planning on several fun events, including a bonfire on the beach = and an excursion to Acapulco to experience its world-famous nightlife. = Details will be forthcoming. Money matters: The price per player of the tournament package is $425. This includes = five days and four nights (double occupancy) in an all-inclusive resort, = all meals and national drinks, transportation to/from fields, a T-shirt, = and a disc. Transportation to and from the airport is extra, but should = be less than $25 round trip. Please note that this is based on an = exchange rate of 9.2 pesos to the dollar. Keep in mind that December of = an election year is traditionally somewhat volatile, and we may have to = make an adjustment if the exchange rate should rise by more than 10%, or = we won't be able to cover costs.=20 If you decide you want to come, we need a deposit to reserve your room = at the Parador del Sol. Instructions for wiring money are on the = tournament web page. Before you send money, though, please get in touch = with Beto Stern at astern@multibix.com to let him know it's coming. I hope this sounds like something you might want to do. If you have any = questions you can e-mail me at besttrvl@prodigy.net.mx or = andersonlinda_us@yahoo.com or anyone listed at the tournament web site = at www.discovolador.com/fiesta2001/ . Hope to see you in January. Thanks, Linda Anderson ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C02227.5E9D2600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi! My name is Linda = Anderson, and=20 I’m a beginning Ultimate player and the Accomodations Coordinator = that is=20 helping organize the Ultimate Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta. It is a hat = tournament=20 that is going to be held just outside of Acapulco, Mexico, January = 17-21, 2000=20 (Wednesday through Sunday). We are writing to teams in=20 the U.P.A. to make sure they are aware of this = tournament,=20 which should be a lot of fun and is also intended = to help=20 Ultimate grow in Mexico. Here’s the scoop:

The tournament:
The arrival day isWednesday the=20 17th. Then on Thursday the 18th we are=20 planning on having a mellow day with lots of beach Ultimate, perhaps a = game or=20 two on grass. This was to allow stragglers to arrive and give everyone = time to=20 relax and get into vacation mode. On Friday and Saturday the hat = tournament=20 would start, although some beach Ultimate can be mixed in. On Sunday the = 20th we=20 would revert to vacation mode, going back to the beach since nobody is = going to=20 want to play a final after the Saturday night bash and also ensuring = nobody=20 misses anything if they have to catch an early flight.

As I = mentioned, we=20 have planned this tournament not only to have a good time, but to help = promote=20 Ultimate in Mexico. A lot of people will be invited to observe and = learn,=20 including PE teachers, government people, and the media. In addition to = watching=20 the games they will be participating in some clinics or presentations. = Any help=20 you might want to give would be appreciated!

The location:
Pie de la Cuesta is a beach located = about 25=20 minutes from downtown Acapulco. It's a low-key, unspoiled, gorgeous = beach that=20 is famous for its sunsets. It is bordered on one side by the Pacific and = on the=20 other by a fresh-water lagoon on which you can kayak, waterski, etc. The = hotel,=20 Parador del Sol, is the only five-star hotel in the area. You can check = out its=20 web page at www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/=

 The tournament package is all-inclusive, which = means it=20 includes three meals (all-you-can-eat buffets) per day and all sodas and = "national beverages" (tequila and beer, what more could you need??) you = can=20 consume. If you have any energy to spare after playing disc, a variety = of sports=20 are offered for free, although water skiing does cost extra. The rooms = are=20 actually broken up into two-bedroom villas, all with air-conditioning = and=20 private terraces with hammocks. Please note that the tournament price is = for=20 double occupancy, that is, two people to a room.

Other fun:
We = are=20 planning on several fun events, including a bonfire on the beach and an=20 excursion to Acapulco to experience its world-famous nightlife. Details = will be=20 forthcoming.

Money matters:
The price per player of the = tournament package=20 is $425. This includes five days and four nights (double occupancy) in = an=20 all-inclusive resort, all meals and national drinks, transportation = to/from=20 fields, a T-shirt, and a disc. Transportation to and from the airport is = extra,=20 but should be less than $25 round trip. Please note that this is based = on an=20 exchange rate of 9.2 pesos to the dollar. Keep in mind that December of = an=20 election year is traditionally somewhat volatile, and we may have to = make an=20 adjustment if the exchange rate should rise by more than 10%, or we = won’t be=20 able to cover costs.

If you decide you want to come, we need a deposit to = reserve=20 your room at the Parador del Sol. Instructions for wiring money are on = the=20 tournament web page. Before you send money, though, please get in touch = with=20 Beto Stern at astern@multibix.com to let him know it’s = coming.

I hope this sounds like something you might want to = do. If you=20 have any questions you can e-mail me at besttrvl@prodigy.net.mx or andersonlinda_us@yahoo.com or anyone = listed at=20 the tournament web site at www.discovolador.com/fie= sta2001/ .   Hope to see you in = January.

Thanks,
Linda=20 Anderson

 

------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C02227.5E9D2600-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 20 20:33:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8KJUfR20752 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:30:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8KJUdS20742 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:30:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8KJUdY05586 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:30:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.75.46] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13bpZl-00061H-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:30:38 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c02339$d849d800$5e1cac3e@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: mixed coordinator 2001 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:33:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all- Thanks for the great response in playing the Mixed Series 2000. At this time, I think there are folks out there who could run next year's series better than I can. Having a toddler shadow your every move makes it difficult to think, and to get info out on time, and to answer questions, etc. She won't even leave the keyboard alone to let me type! Everything has to be done during nap time or after bedtime. So- if anyone is interested in doing the job next year, please make yourself known, by the BUF AGM at the latest. It was surprisingly little work to make this happen this year- you won't have to invest loads of time, about an hour a week from March to April to set up the venues and up to two hours for each tournament. See?- you could fit this into your schedule!!! BUT- if there is nobody who can carry on- I'll do it another year. It needs to keep happenning! See you in Leicester for Nationals! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 21 12:36:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8LBXUB24520 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:33:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8LBXSS24502 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:33:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from serv1.is1.u-net.net (serv1.is1.u-net.net [195.102.240.129]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8LBXNY29045 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:33:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from [195.102.200.235] (helo=[195.102.200.235]) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13c4bR-0000EV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:33:22 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:29:18 +0100 Subject: From: Adam Harras To: Britdisc Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk UKultimate The UK ultimate locator is now completely up to date (except JUMP, sorry jump I didn't have time to put Jersey on). Please check your teams location and details. Also pass on the URL (not easy to remember I know, but I think Ben is putting a link on the BUF site(Ben?)). Get other people to use the site that what it's there for. If you haven't checked it out have a look I think it'll amuse you if nothing else. The url is: http://www.ummedia.com/UltimateLocator/ Adam (under the cidertable) -- Adam Harras um Media 47 Radley Rd Abingdon Oxon OX14 3PL T 01235 527543 E adam@ummedia.com HTTP://www.ummedia.com (flash 4) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 22 00:04:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8LN1YW25046 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:01:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8LN1WS25038 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:01:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8LN1VY26324 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:01:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13cFKx-00012P-0A; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:01:19 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:52:26 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Fluid Druids From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: BritDisc Subject: 2000 BUF AGM items: changing Tour and Nationals References: <001d01c020f7$a06ec9c0$70a592c3@ben> In-Reply-To: <001d01c020f7$a06ec9c0$70a592c3@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk By the complete silence on the matter, I wonder whether anybody read Ben's posting: British Ultimate Federation ; Subject: 2000 BUF AGM >Motion: Modification of the Tour > >Motion: Change of Nationals Format > >PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE BUF TOUR AND NATIONALS STRUCTURE > >Full details of the proposed changes can be found at >http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/tour2001.htm >Please read them! Below is a brief summary........... Here's Chris Hughes' proposals for changing the Tour and Nationals for 2001. Circulate to your teammates; Read; Inwardly digest; Collate and take *well thought out* questions/comments to the BUF AGM; Be prepared to vote on this, or any alternatives. If you have a *well thought out* alternative, let everybody (especially Ben, the BUF Secretary), know NOW!!! Note: teams not attending Nationals can vote by proxy, if they let Ben know NOW!!! [I'll try to bring a quantity of hardcopy versions to distribute at Nationals captain's meeting this w/e, but I reckon it's probably worth your while to print it out for your own perusal in the meantime.] Wayne Proposal for the tour future This year has shown the flaws that the tour structure generates in trying to organise the events. The number of teams entering the tour is increasing every year, which makes the pressure to find venues that can cope with enough pitches even more difficult. Swindon needs vast advance warning to book, Towcester shows what can happen when organisers are forced to be the ground breakers in holding sporting events at venues not equipped for the job, and Leeds, for all their fantastic effort in organising on short notice, the venue suffered a number of pitches that were not up to the job. On top of this we have problems where for nationals we are struggling to find a venue that is big enough for the job. This is going to be complicated even further by the introduction in the next five years of FIFA's unified football season - the northern Hemisphere professionals are transferring to a summer season, although it is unsure that the amateurs will follow suit. This will mean even more direct competition for the limited number of venues already available. Whilst the tour is in a position to continue - the atmosphere after the problems this year is such that change will be encouraged. The plan that I am proposing is designed to do two things; 1. Maintain the standard of tournaments and competition at the highest level, without the exclusion or removal of those teams that have not made it to the top, or those players who compete for the sake of enjoyment. 2. Increase the quality of the venues by removing the need to source events that can provide for thirty-two teams or more The basic concept is to split the tour into an A-Tour and B-Tour, with a points scale that progresses down across the split. After a single event for T1, in which all teams can move freely, all subsequent events would be split, with promotion and relegation between events. The specific structure is of course flexible, although at this stage a top 12 / rest, split is the most sensible and feasible. Whilst most people would suggest a top 16 split, I feel that this is more stable because of a number of reasons. At this stage in British Ultimate there is a consistency of just over 12 higher standard teams, which by placing the split in the middle of will develop a level of competition as teams fight to maintain their position in the top division, and a top 12 format will provide teams with repeated competition against teams of a similar standard with a schedule of 2 pools for teams 1-8 and another for 9-12, followed by the traditional Sunday KO's for 1-4 and 5-12. The B-Tour events can be open to promote a more enjoyable experience for the teams enjoying for entertainment. Similarly when considering the viability of events, the focus needs to be on the B-Tour events. These are the events that will be less financially stable. Since the A-Tour event will always fill its quota as teams shuffle up the rankings to fill any gaps, the B-Tour event will be less certain of teams entering, and is also more likely to hosted by teams who are new to holding events, and will be assisted by the comfort of a more secure tournament attendance. On a similar front, the reduction of the A-Tour to 12 teams will mean that the venue only requires 6 pitches, while the increased cost of spreading the cost of facilities over fewer teams is more supportable since these teams are the teams that regularly attend with larger squads, allowing them to spread the cost. The issue of promotion and relegation will always cause concern. With only 12 teams I the A-Tour, there is no desire to move too many teams each event. At this stage I believe that 2 teams to be promoted, and similarly 2 teams to be relegated is a suitable compromise. Each option has its advantages and disadvantages; 1. To move one team ensures that the final of the B-Tour, and the 11th / 12th game in the A-Tour has meaning. It also ensure that teams are less likely to spend all tour bypassing each other as they are promoted and relegated simultaneously. However, this also means that it stifles the improvement of teams by limiting their movement into the top division. 2. To promote / relegate 2 teams allows teams to move up easier into the top division. However it also means that they are more likely to be relegated the event after, as they will have to finish at least 10th to maintain their position. Although it does mean a team can quickly return to the top levels. However it shifts the critical games to the semi- finals on Sunday for both events, leaving the only reward in the B-Tour being to win the event, whilst the 11th / 12th game becomes a pointless event. 3. To move 3 teams at this stage seems excessive, while it gives impetus to the 3rd / 4th playoff and the 9th / 10th games this implies that there are teams at present in 17th place that are able to compete in the 5-12 group. It also makes it much more likely that the same 6 teams will be in constant promotion or relegation through out the season. There are of course problems with this system, although I believe they are fewer than people believe, they are countered by the improvements it will hopefully bring.,and that it will improve the quality of venues. Advantages Tournament will not require the vast venues presently required with huge capacity for teams. These are few and far between, and difficult to book Teams will attend other events where these weaker teams may get to play the top teams, as well as see them. People have to accept that what is being done here is to promote for the premier BUF series the quality of play and not the social aspect of the sport. As for above there is always the possibility that venue will be big enough to host both events simultaneously. This occurs at present in the Tour. It will also occur at any point the split is imposed. Hopefully this system will encourage teams to improve and ensure they fight their way up and stay there. This can happen in any promotion system, and probably happens in the tour in its present form. However by choosing the right number of teams to promote this should become less likely. It will promote the relaxed atmosphere in tournament that those teams playing for enjoyment want. Not all teams want the stifling constrictions that are involved in the tour. Disadvantages More tournament directors required, with more suitable venues. However these venues will be smaller, and should be easier to find. Weaker teams will not get to see the stronger teams in action.. Couples who play on different teams will need to organise different transport, and will not get to see each other The split will disadvantage those teams just below the cut off level and force them to play an increased number of games below their standard. Teams of a similar standard may never play each other as they bypass each other in the promotion and relegation. Nationals In an attempt to keep the identity of nationals as a separate event to the tour, there is room to change the format of Nationals. Although I have football analogies in ultimate, if the tour can be related to the leagues, then Nationals can be considered to be the cups. The tour is about a team performing consistently over a period of time, while nationals is about producing the performance on the day when it matters. Hence this proposal includes converting nationals to a 16 team KO format. Using seedings generated from the tour the format would be a straight 16 team KO. Whilst this only produces 2 game per day, this would more closely recreate the conditions found in the major foreign events, where every game may affect the finishing position of the team by large number of positions. It also allows for flexibility in tour attendance by teams in allowing all teams from 16 upwards to qualify and win national championships. This would remove the problems caused by any teams non-attendance to the tour, for whatever reason, as demonstrated by Catch 22 this year. Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 22 14:43:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8MDdra07264 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:39:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8MDdpS07257 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:39:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (exim@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk [131.111.36.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8MDdb223331 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:39:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from gcf (helo=localhost) by mole.bio.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 13cT2y-00PnYh-00; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:39:24 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:39:24 +0100 (BST) From: Graham C Fletcher Reply-To: Graham C Fletcher To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, camdisc@egroups.com, Tom Spaight cc: Arun Sharma Subject: Nationals: Friday night meeting point. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you who are coming to Cambridge tonight, there will be at least a few people gathering at the Maypole Pub on Park Street. A streetmap can be found at: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=544750&Y=259250&zoom=1 To drive there go down Victoria Avenue, right onto Jesus Lane, right onto Park St and park in the multistorey. Later, Graham. P.S. A streetmap showing the tournament venue (off Whitehill Rd) is at: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=547250&Y=258750&zoom=1 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 22 16:04:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8MF2xM25845 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:02:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8MF2wS25833 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:02:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8MF2vY08115 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:02:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (max2-104.dialin.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.45.104]) by public.uni-hamburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA45150 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:02:52 +0200 Message-Id: <200009221502.RAA45150@public.uni-hamburg.de> From: "Ed" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:00:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: mallorca beach ultimate Reply-to: ed@fischbees.de X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, all, just in case you and your folks did't know yet : 27.-29.October beach ultilmate hat tourney on Mallorca, Spain. Registration's on now : http:www.fischbees.de/mallorca Ed/Andreas from Hamburg From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 22 17:13:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8MGC5g06642 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:12:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8MGC3S06626 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:12:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8MGBvY15843 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:11:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (max2-030.dialin.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.45.30]) by public.uni-hamburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27640 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:11:55 +0200 Message-Id: <200009221611.SAA27640@public.uni-hamburg.de> From: "Ed" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:09:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: mallorca beach ultimate Reply-to: ed@fischbees.de X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, just in case you and your folks did't know yet : 27.-29.October 2000 beach ultilmate hat tourney on Mallorca, Spain. Registration's on now : http://www.fischbees.de/mallorca Ed/Andreas from Hamburg From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Sep 24 00:24:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8NNKmP16971 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:20:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8NNKiS16966 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:20:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8NNKhY25119 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:20:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from tot-tj.proxy.aol.com (tot-tj.proxy.aol.com [152.163.213.131]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA08615; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from addie (AC9B05B5.ipt.aol.com [172.155.5.181]) by tot-tj.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e8NNKJI02321; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , Subject: Proposal for a London (and neighbouring) Beginners student tourney for 14/15 Oct Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:20:11 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Apparently-From: Addieandkeen@aol.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Adam here. About that London Beginners Tournament then ... here is the first proper volley. Let's shoot for the weekend before Sheffield, and go for two days in case one day is horrile and windy. Beginners being beginners we ought to try and give them at least a 50-50 chance at a decent day outdoors. Start at 10am, Captain's meeting at 9am. Round Robin format for 8 teams which we can split into two pools with NO Crossovers (except for 1A v 1B and 2A v 2B playoffs for top 4 positions in a 2 pool scenario) maintaining Round Robin format. Venue can be either Clapham Common or Regent's Park. Putting it to a vote from you lot. Benefits of Regents is that we can use the 2 marked pitches leftover from the Summer League and the changing rooms. No such luck at Clapham. Cost per team is GBP40 to go towards booking changing facilities, buying trophies and (maybe) a Saturday night party at UCLU/ULU wherever. Rules as per the Edinburgh Beginners format. It is a classic after all. And I will expect all hands to help with the running of the weekend. NOT doing it by myself. Not capable, too muddle-headed etc... So, London and near-London, whaddyathink? Cheers, Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Sep 24 01:55:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8O0s9K20637 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 01:54:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8O0s7S20632 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 01:54:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.168.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8O0s5207125 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 01:54:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from prodigy.prodigy.net.mx (du-148-233-71-9.prodigy.net.mx) by SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with SMTP id <0G1D00DJL96HOZ@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:54:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:50:02 -0500 From: Linda Anderson Subject: Ultimate in Mexico wants you! To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-id: <03d101c025c1$6436c240$0947e994@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03CD_01C02597.77179EE0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03CD_01C02597.77179EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! My name is Linda Anderson, and I'm a beginning Ultimate player and = the Accomodations Coordinator that is helping organize the Ultimate = Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta. It is a hat tournament that is going to be = held just outside of Acapulco, Mexico, January 17-21, 2000 (Wednesday = through Sunday). We are writing to teams in the U.P.A. to make sure they = are aware of this tournament, which should be a lot of fun and is also = intended to help Ultimate grow in Mexico. Here's the scoop: The tournament: The arrival day isWednesday the 17th. Then on Thursday the 18th we are = planning on having a mellow day with lots of beach Ultimate, perhaps a = game or two on grass. This was to allow stragglers to arrive and give = everyone time to relax and get into vacation mode. On Friday and = Saturday the hat tournament would start, although some beach Ultimate = can be mixed in. On Sunday the 20th we would revert to vacation mode, = going back to the beach since nobody is going to want to play a final = after the Saturday night bash and also ensuring nobody misses anything = if they have to catch an early flight. As I mentioned, we have planned this tournament not only to have a good = time, but to help promote Ultimate in Mexico. A lot of people will be = invited to observe and learn, including PE teachers, government people, = and the media. In addition to watching the games they will be = participating in some clinics or presentations. Any help you might want = to give would be appreciated! The location: Pie de la Cuesta is a beach located about 25 minutes from downtown = Acapulco. It's a low-key, unspoiled, gorgeous beach that is famous for = its sunsets. It is bordered on one side by the Pacific and on the other = by a fresh-water lagoon on which you can kayak, waterski, etc. The = hotel, Parador del Sol, is the only five-star hotel in the area. You can = check out its web page at www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/ The tournament package is all-inclusive, which means it includes three = meals (all-you-can-eat buffets) per day and all sodas and "national = beverages" (tequila and beer, what more could you need??) you can = consume. If you have any energy to spare after playing disc, a variety = of sports are offered for free, although water skiing does cost extra. = The rooms are actually broken up into two-bedroom villas, all with = air-conditioning and private terraces with hammocks. Please note that = the tournament price is for double occupancy, that is, two people to a = room. Other fun: We are planning on several fun events, including a bonfire on the beach = and an excursion to Acapulco to experience its world-famous nightlife. = Details will be forthcoming. Money matters: The price per player of the tournament package is $425. This includes = five days and four nights (double occupancy) in an all-inclusive resort, = all meals and national drinks, transportation to/from fields, a T-shirt, = and a disc. Transportation to and from the airport is extra, but should = be less than $25 round trip. Please note that this is based on an = exchange rate of 9.2 pesos to the dollar. Keep in mind that December of = an election year is traditionally somewhat volatile, and we may have to = make an adjustment if the exchange rate should rise by more than 10%, or = we won't be able to cover costs.=20 If you decide you want to come, we need a deposit to reserve your room = at the Parador del Sol. Instructions for wiring money are on the = tournament web page. Before you send money, though, please get in touch = with Beto Stern at astern@multibix.com to let him know it's coming. I hope this sounds like something you might want to do. If you have any = questions you can e-mail me at besttrvl@prodigy.net.mx or = andersonlinda_us@yahoo.com or anyone listed at the tournament web site = at www.discovolador.com/fiesta2001/ . Hope to see you in January. Thanks, Linda Anderson ------=_NextPart_000_03CD_01C02597.77179EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi! My name is Linda = Anderson, and=20 I’m a beginning Ultimate player and the Accomodations Coordinator = that is=20 helping organize the Ultimate Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta. It is a hat = tournament=20 that is going to be held just outside of Acapulco, Mexico, January = 17-21, 2000=20 (Wednesday through Sunday). We are writing to teams in=20 the U.P.A. to make sure they are aware of this = tournament,=20 which should be a lot of fun and is also intended = to help=20 Ultimate grow in Mexico. Here’s the scoop:

The tournament:
The arrival day isWednesday the=20 17th. Then on Thursday the 18th we are=20 planning on having a mellow day with lots of beach Ultimate, perhaps a = game or=20 two on grass. This was to allow stragglers to arrive and give everyone = time to=20 relax and get into vacation mode. On Friday and Saturday the hat = tournament=20 would start, although some beach Ultimate can be mixed in. On Sunday the = 20th we=20 would revert to vacation mode, going back to the beach since nobody is = going to=20 want to play a final after the Saturday night bash and also ensuring = nobody=20 misses anything if they have to catch an early flight.

As I = mentioned, we=20 have planned this tournament not only to have a good time, but to help = promote=20 Ultimate in Mexico. A lot of people will be invited to observe and = learn,=20 including PE teachers, government people, and the media. In addition to = watching=20 the games they will be participating in some clinics or presentations. = Any help=20 you might want to give would be appreciated!

The location:
Pie de la Cuesta is a beach located = about 25=20 minutes from downtown Acapulco. It's a low-key, unspoiled, gorgeous = beach that=20 is famous for its sunsets. It is bordered on one side by the Pacific and = on the=20 other by a fresh-water lagoon on which you can kayak, waterski, etc. The = hotel,=20 Parador del Sol, is the only five-star hotel in the area. You can check = out its=20 web page at www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/=

 The tournament package is all-inclusive, which = means it=20 includes three meals (all-you-can-eat buffets) per day and all sodas and = "national beverages" (tequila and beer, what more could you need??) you = can=20 consume. If you have any energy to spare after playing disc, a variety = of sports=20 are offered for free, although water skiing does cost extra. The rooms = are=20 actually broken up into two-bedroom villas, all with air-conditioning = and=20 private terraces with hammocks. Please note that the tournament price is = for=20 double occupancy, that is, two people to a room.

Other fun:
We = are=20 planning on several fun events, including a bonfire on the beach and an=20 excursion to Acapulco to experience its world-famous nightlife. Details = will be=20 forthcoming.

Money matters:
The price per player of the = tournament package=20 is $425. This includes five days and four nights (double occupancy) in = an=20 all-inclusive resort, all meals and national drinks, transportation = to/from=20 fields, a T-shirt, and a disc. Transportation to and from the airport is = extra,=20 but should be less than $25 round trip. Please note that this is based = on an=20 exchange rate of 9.2 pesos to the dollar. Keep in mind that December of = an=20 election year is traditionally somewhat volatile, and we may have to = make an=20 adjustment if the exchange rate should rise by more than 10%, or we = won’t be=20 able to cover costs.

If you decide you want to come, we need a deposit to = reserve=20 your room at the Parador del Sol. Instructions for wiring money are on = the=20 tournament web page. Before you send money, though, please get in touch = with=20 Beto Stern at astern@multibix.com to let him know it’s = coming.

I hope this sounds like something you might want to = do. If you=20 have any questions you can e-mail me at besttrvl@prodigy.net.mx or andersonlinda_us@yahoo.com or anyone = listed at=20 the tournament web site at www.discovolador.com/fie= sta2001/ .   Hope to see you in = January.

Thanks,
Linda=20 Anderson

 

------=_NextPart_000_03CD_01C02597.77179EE0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 25 02:30:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8P1Qdx10767 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:26:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8P1QbS10760 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:26:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1.mail.yahoo.com (smtp1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.69.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e8P1QWY06157 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:26:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from p8cs04a02.client.global.net.uk (HELO addie) (195.147.148.141) by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Sep 2000 01:26:26 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , Subject: Proposed beginner's tournament 14/15 - Draft 2 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:26:16 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, Ali (ex Mohawks) has made a couple of valid points. Being an outdoor tournament, a 2-5 experienced to newbie ratio is probably a better idea. Also, because it is so early and the newbies will be so green, we might have to make some adaptations. So, either we have it later and risk the weather turning (more) sour, or ... We have the Saturday as a coaching clinic, party through 3 pint challenges on the night, then play the games on Sunday. Personally I am loathe to move the dates back. I actually think that the clinic idea has legs. We could divide players according to ability, coach them at a suitable level to suit the individual with more hands to help the really new players, get them exposed to the fact that there are a LOT of beginners and they aren't particularly unco, and spend some time teaching basic tactics and strategy while pooling the knowledge of all the coaches and experienced players, and then letting them scrimmage a bit. Then party. Then play ulty OUTDOORS! So this is draft 2, still waiting for a show of hands. Cheers Adam _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 25 13:42:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8PCcOb21621 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:38:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8PCcNS21615 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:38:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from receipt.tesco.net (receipt.tesco.net [194.73.73.175] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8PCcH215449 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:38:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.74.95] (helo=ianstebb) by receipt.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13dXWQ-0003te-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:38:15 +0100 Message-ID: <002801c026ee$1288c8c0$5f4a8cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed Nationals and European Clubs Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:40:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk After some debate and 'opinion collection' it has become clear that results from next weekend's Mixed Nationals Tournament need to be used as the selection criteria for teams going to the European Club Championships next June. Reasons: Europeans are taking place in June (not in August as with World tournaments) and so a qualifying tournament in April would be unworkable, as teams will need to have entered long before then. Nationals is the obvious choice for selection of international slots. Selection is done this way with the Open and Women's division. Although there are additional factors in selecting mixed teams (such as teams that may split to play Open and Womens), Nationals remains the most fair way to select teams for a CLUB championships. Dont Panic: We don't know how many slots will be available for Mixed. Thanks to the strong performance of the National Squad, we can expect to do well- but there is no indication of how large the competition will be, and so how many teams will be invited. Qualification places that are not used by teams will be 'passed down' the results table until a team takes them up. IMPOrTANT- Rosters ARE NOT FROZEN for Europeans (as far as BUF is concerned). If you started up a development team but want to play internationally (and are good enough) you can go join a team that has qualified. MOST IMPORTANT- Qualifying teams that elect to go to Europeans MUST send at least seven of the players who played to get the qualification. (This is stated in the original Mixed Series description and rules.) For example- say team X qualifies, but all of team X's player elect to play Open and Womens with other teams except for two players. Those remianing two players can not form a 'new' team under team X's name in order to go to Europeans. I know this is late notice- but we only found out about European Clubs in August. I had no idea at the start of the Mixed Series that this would become an issue. Please accept my apologies for any problems caused. Talk to me if you have any huge problems. Nancy Stebbing National Mixed Co-ordinator From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Sep 25 13:55:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8PCsJD23911 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:54:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8PCsIS23904 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:54:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from draco.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@draco.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8PCsHY21301 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:54:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by draco.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #3) id 13dXlu-0007Ty-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:54:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:56:42 +0100 Subject: Nationals results/lost property From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all The BUF Nationals were held in Cambridge this weekend under brilliant sunshine (for a day and a half). Graham and I would like to thank everyone who helped out to make the last-minute organization a success: David Mackay for doing the website and Strange Blue for helping out with the BBQ, tents and all the other various jobs. We would also like to thank Chris Hughes for his help with the Nationals and all his hard work organizing the Tour throughout the year. Finally we would also like to acknowledge the help and support we received from the Cambridge City Council and Abbey Pool. Catch 22 and UTI provided a brilliant final. Unfortunately Guy Bowles' injury was quite a bad break in one bone in his wrist but it has now been reset by the doctors at Addenbrookes and he will find out today if surgery is needed. Here are the results: 1. UTI 2. Catch 22 3. Doughboy 4. Chevy 5. Druids (plate) 6. Red 7. Fusion 8. Blue Arse Flies 9. Deep South Mentality 10. Hammerage 11. Headrush 12. Strange Blue 13. Fever (spoon) 14. Point Blank 15. Sharks 16. Mild Mannered Janitors Spirit - Fusion MVP of the Final (by a large unbiased majority) - Graham Fletcher Thanks for coming and thanks to those people who helped us carrying stuff to and from the pitches. See you in Leicester. Dora ------------- LOST PROPERTY ------------- Valuables - Ladies Fossil silver watch - Shades - fake pearl necklace Chairs - green and white striped - white plastic garden - green canvas folding chair complete with drinks holders Clothing - black Donnay track suit bottoms - World clubs yellow regatta jacket - Heineken Export World Tour T-shirt - black jumper (M) - blue long-sleeved T shirt with no 8 on back - Colchester Europeans staff shirt Hats - battered straw hat - Killer loop baseball cap Umbrellas - Blue and white large - Red/orange Price Waterhouse large - Black small Discs - White blank with 'Rama Headrush' on inside - Faded BUF disc - 5th British open disc Miscellaneous - Ankle support - Lucozade water bottle - Isostar water bottle - chicken tikka samosa BUF property - one water container - black string bag for the containers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Sep 26 09:42:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8Q8bxL01070 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:37:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8Q8bwS01065 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:37:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8Q8bsY13961 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:37:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from homer.atm.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:root@homer.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.25]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e8Q8brN24640 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:37:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by homer.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA25462 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:37:53 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: homer.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:37:52 +0100 (BST) From: Ben Booth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: August 10 Draw Now Open - win 2 tickets to Sydney Australia in time for September Olympics - Enter Free 4141 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'd just thought I'd add this forwarded message I recived as spam through britdisc. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 27 00:13:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8QN9ZG03010 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:09:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8QN9VS02993 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:09:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8QN9U210089 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:09:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dailup140.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.140]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA29889; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:13:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00b701c0280f$42fa6320$8ca592c3@ben> Reply-To: "Leicester Ultimate Club" From: "Leicester Ultimate Club" To: "BRITDISC" Cc: , "Dora Kemp" Subject: Mixed Nationals Leicester - Accommodation & Directions Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:12:08 +0100 Organization: Leicester Ultimate Club MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Some preliminary details of the mixed nationals this weekend:- Accommodation: Phone Duncan on 0116 2530954 / 07718 954759 for floor space or phone the Tourist Information Office on 0116 2998888 Location: Victoria Park, Leicester (same as 1999 Open Nationals) Directions: http://www.ravilious.net/ultimate/mixed2000.htm Captains meeting: 9am, Games start 9:30am If anyone needs any of this faxed, posted or emailed directly please let me know. See you at the weekend Ben Red 10 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 27 12:27:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8RBNdX23999 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:23:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RBNaS23990 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:23:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RBNZ220619 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:23:36 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200009271123.e8RBNZ220619@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: britdisc Subject: BUSA and Ultimate Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:21:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Follows a couple of quotes from The Times Higher Education Supplement 22nd September 2000. "New Calls for New Balls" Starts: "Figures show that competitive sports are attracting more students than ever. And the growth is not just in the traditional team sports - there's been an explosion in minority and womens sports too says Jennifer Currie" important excerpt : . . . BUSA hopes to add sports such as Ultimate frisbee and American Football to its repetoire in the near future. . . . the article later quotes Nathan Homer the BUSA Student Vice Chair I assume that this may come from him. I think the BUF should follow this up. I know there has been considerable argument in the past about the pros and cons of BUSA affiliation. There is no doubt in my mind that it would be a step forward to more widespread recognition of our sport. I would assume that this should really be discussed on the student list. maybe someone can forward it to the list. stig red 14 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 27 13:08:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8RC6os01078 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:06:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RC6kS01060 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:06:46 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:08:00 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: andylucey@yahoo.com Subject: Colchester tournament Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:41:30 -0700 (PDT) From: andylucey@yahoo.com Subject: Colchester tournament tour 2000 comes to an end at colchester next weekend- october 7/8. despite the fact that dil has now won the open and matt the amateur (bearing any major shocks) there are still points at stake and a few personal scores to be settled in the last a event of the year. the new, big essex uni course is now in place. There are 11 new holes and some improvements made to some of the other 7. It is also long- 9 par 3's and 9 par 4's although some of them play closer to par 4 1/2- 5, leaving a course par of 63. format- 36 holes per day plus 6 hole final. sat am- 9.30 players meeting 10.00 round 1 sun am- 9.00 round 3 for accomadation details- contact colchester tourist board- 01206 282920 or si & guy luard-01206 263800/ si mobile- 07899902052 the tournament coincides with the university freshers week so there will be lots going on and according to simon loads of moist punami.... rich sampson is working on something to promote disc golf amongest the uni community- so bring any spare discs you can to help him please. see you there From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 27 22:48:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8RLk5G02885 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:46:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RLk3S02872 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:46:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RLk2215661 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:46:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from charlesm (charles.mead.easynet.co.uk [195.40.244.78]) by chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B71BDF846F; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:45:57 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Charlie Mead" From: "Charlie Mead" To: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" , "britdisc" Subject: Re: BUSA and Ultimate Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:32:35 +0100 Message-ID: <01c028ca$73919740$0100007f@charlesm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Without membership of BUSA Ultimate will not receive funding from the World Student Sports Association based in Germany that funds University teams to travelabroad to World Student events. World Student Ultimate starts next year in USA so there is a big pay off. Not least because WSSA (called something else in Germany) is affiliated to GAISF and all GAISF members (including WFDF) got 50,000 US dollars from worldsport.com for rights to advertise and promote their sport. Just a thought. Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee +44-121-449-3382 (home) +44-121-693-5363 (work) +44-121-693-5369 (FAX) +44-(0)802-321-710 (mobile) www.wfdf.org -----Original Message----- From: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO) To: britdisc Date: 27 September 2000 12:45 Subject: BUSA and Ultimate > >Follows a couple of quotes from The Times Higher Education Supplement 22nd >September 2000. "New Calls for New Balls" > >Starts: > >"Figures show that competitive sports are attracting more students than >ever. And the growth is not just in the traditional team sports - there's >been an explosion in minority and womens sports too says Jennifer Currie" > >important excerpt : > >. . . BUSA hopes to add sports such as Ultimate frisbee and American >Football to its repetoire in the near future. . . . > >the article later quotes Nathan Homer the BUSA Student Vice Chair >I assume that this may come from him. > >I think the BUF should follow this up. I know there has been considerable >argument in the past about the pros and cons of BUSA affiliation. There is >no doubt in my mind that it would be a step forward to more widespread >recognition of our sport. > >I would assume that this should really be discussed on the student list. >maybe someone can forward it to the list. > >stig >red 14 > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Sep 27 23:23:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8RMMI106843 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:22:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RMMGS06838 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:22:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f165.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.165]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RMMGY10206 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:22:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:22:05 -0700 Received: from 129.252.91.55 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:22:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.252.91.55] From: "ian bradshaw" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: re:ultimate and busa Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:22:05 BST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Sep 2000 22:22:05.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DEDDF00:01C028D1] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Another reason for joining BUSA must be that Ultimate clubs within universities will probably find it easy to obtain funds/help from their Unions and or universities if they are a BUSA sport. On the other hand there must be some cons to affiliating to BUSA I just can't think of any at the moment. Ian Bradshaw _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 28 10:38:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8S9Zq829387 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:35:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8S9ZoS29381 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:35:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8S9Zl201927 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:35:50 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200009280935.e8S9Zl201927@daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: britdisc Subject: contacting Kevin Lowe Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:33:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk anyone got his email address? stig From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Sep 28 14:52:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8SDntE21623 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:49:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8SDnsS21613 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:49:54 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:51:22 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Dave Neilson Subject: Lift from Coventry to Leicester? Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are there any Bears or other Coventry / Warwickshire based players driving over to Leicester this coming Saturday (30 September) for the Mixed Nationals? Any chance of a lift please (happy to share petrol costs and buy the driver a drink of their choice). Cheers Sam Neilson H: 01926 864 276 W: 024 7652 3880 E: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Address: 20 Alexandra Court Priory Road Kenilworth From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 29 08:57:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8T7spB20955 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8T7snS20948 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (IDENT:root@[195.153.207.133]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8T7sn209465 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from fetchmail.com (IDENT:web@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk [195.153.207.133]) by 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16423 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:44 +0100 Message-Id: <200009290754.IAA16423@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) From: "Ben Ravilious" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tonights Meet-up (Mixed Nationals) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:43 0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those of you arriving in Leicester tonight for the mixed nationals we will be receiving teams in the Wyvern pub (same as previous years) on Granby Street just the other end of the pedestrian subway from Leicester railway station. We'll be there from about 8pm but let us know if you want to arrive earlier. See you later Ben Red 10 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 29 11:30:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8TASff21042 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:28:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8TASeS21036 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:28:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from web2.zkey.com ([216.34.216.6]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8TASW225081 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:28:32 +0100 (BST) Received: by web2.zkey.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id AF18A18CFF; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:28:50 -0700 (PDT) From: M A To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: M A MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Zcentral 3.0 Webmail based on (IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.9) Subject: Midlands Winter practices Message-Id: <20000929102850.AF18A18CFF@web2.zkey.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We (SlipDisc) are thinking of arranging some winter practices in the Midlands some place. It is hoped that these will be multi-team events so if any Midlands teams fancy a combined winter assault then contact me at the details below: Mal 0121 472 3694 07720 142 720 M. Allen reply to: mta99@bigfoot.com \\|// [o o] \`/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Mailed from Virgin Student -- http://www.virginstudent.com "Sort your life out with Virgin Student" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 29 14:15:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8TDBlY20468 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:11:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8TDBjS20463 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:11:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp1b.mail.yahoo.com (smtp3.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.135]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e8TDBgY00775 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:11:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from async141-4.nas.onetel.net.uk (HELO addie) (212.67.100.141) by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2000 13:11:39 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , Subject: The First London Beginners Tournament and Clinic Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:11:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Right, here it is, the official invitation to what I hope to a fun and not too shambolic effort at helping new players love the game. UCL will be hosting a Beginner's tournament on the 14/15 weekend at Regent's Park. Entry fee is #40 per team or #4 per person if more than 10 people show up per team. Tournament format will be decided once all the RSVPs are in and we know how many to account for. Changing facilities are being negotiated but on site showers are not guaranteed. There are showers at ULU on Malet street which people should be able to use. Day one will be a clinic day with experienced players manning speicific stations for Rules, Throws, Tactics, Catching and Defense. There might be a scrimmage after the clinics. Anyone willing to help out on the day please contact me at london_ultimate@hotmail.com (Thanks Jack, Chris, Ali and Wayne (?)) There will be a Saturday party SOMEWHERE, so please bring NUS / ISIC student cards. Sleeping arrangements are ad hoc. Any London players willing to give up some floor space in halls / flats whatever, please contact me at the above email address. Cheques should be addressed to 'K. H. Koon' and sent to : 10 Caraway Heights, 240 Poplar High Street, E14 0BG London, as soon as poss. Day Two will be a tournament, format TBA. Anyone with discs for sale is welcome to bring them along. Further details will be sent to team captains once we have a confirmation on the number of teams entering. Cheers and beers and come have some fun with the Under Cover Lovers! Adam Keen mob: 07989 988367 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Sep 29 16:07:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e8TF5SA17197 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:05:28 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8TF5QS17189 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:05:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (IDENT:root@[195.153.207.133]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8TF5Q225429 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:05:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from fetchmail.com (IDENT:web@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk [195.153.207.133]) by 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09874 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:05:24 +0100 Message-Id: <200009291505.QAA09874@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) From: "Ben Ravilious" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Mixed Nationals: Start time Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:05:24 0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Captains meeting is at 9am First games start at 9:30am. 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(International Distributors are Welcome) ================================================== Double click on link below to be excluded from further communication. mailto:exclude6680@uole.com?subject=delete ================================================== From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 2 18:41:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e92HZPl27845 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:35:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e92HZOS27840 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:35:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mh-a05.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e92HZN229290 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:35:23 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3760 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2000 17:32:36 -0000 Received: from www-a27.backend.another.com (HELO www-a27) (172.16.100.27) by mh-a05.dmz.another.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2000 17:32:36 -0000 Message-ID: <15318205.970508140492.JavaMail.nobody@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:35:40 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: bensilk@another.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Old Bradford players Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="7660346.970508140399.JavaMail.nobody@www-a27" X-Funmail-UID: 2398110 X-Senders-IP: 195.92.198.74 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --7660346.970508140399.JavaMail.nobody@www-a27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all you old bradford players, are any of you on britdisc? 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Ta Ben Silk Be whoever you want to be with another.com Just click here: http://another.com/jump.jsp?destDesc=another.com/login.jsp?sig=390 --7660346.970508140399.JavaMail.nobody@www-a27-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 3 06:05:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9353YJ08220 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 06:03:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9353XS08207 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 06:03:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp.prodigy.net.mx ([148.235.168.44]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9353VY10123 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 06:03:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from prodigy.prodigy.net.mx (du-148-233-71-59.prodigy.net.mx) by SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with SMTP id <0G1U00BZI8P7Y9@SMTP.Prodigy.Net.mx>; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:03:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:03:17 -0500 From: Linda Anderson Subject: Ultimate in Mexico wants you! To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Message-id: <000201c02cf6$9cb294a0$3b47e994@prodigy.net.mx> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01C02CAB.CE2A91E0" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C02CAB.CE2A91E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! My name is Linda Anderson, and I'm a beginning Ultimate player and = the Accomodations Coordinator that is helping organize the Ultimate = Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta. It is a hat tournament that is going to be = held just outside of Acapulco, Mexico, January 17-21, 2000 (Wednesday = through Sunday). We are writing to teams in the U.P.A. to make sure they = are aware of this tournament, which should be a lot of fun and is also = intended to help Ultimate grow in Mexico. Here's the scoop: The tournament: The arrival day isWednesday the 17th. Then on Thursday the 18th we are = planning on having a mellow day with lots of beach Ultimate, perhaps a = game or two on grass. This was to allow stragglers to arrive and give = everyone time to relax and get into vacation mode. On Friday and = Saturday the hat tournament would start, although some beach Ultimate = can be mixed in. On Sunday the 20th we would revert to vacation mode, = going back to the beach since nobody is going to want to play a final = after the Saturday night bash and also ensuring nobody misses anything = if they have to catch an early flight. As I mentioned, we have planned this tournament not only to have a good = time, but to help promote Ultimate in Mexico. A lot of people will be = invited to observe and learn, including PE teachers, government people, = and the media. In addition to watching the games they will be = participating in some clinics or presentations. Any help you might want = to give would be appreciated! The location: Pie de la Cuesta is a beach located about 25 minutes from downtown = Acapulco. It's a low-key, unspoiled, gorgeous beach that is famous for = its sunsets. It is bordered on one side by the Pacific and on the other = by a fresh-water lagoon on which you can kayak, waterski, etc. The = hotel, Parador del Sol, is the only five-star hotel in the area. You can = check out its web page at www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/ The tournament package is all-inclusive, which means it includes three = meals (all-you-can-eat buffets) per day and all sodas and "national = beverages" (tequila and beer, what more could you need??) you can = consume. If you have any energy to spare after playing disc, a variety = of sports are offered for free, although water skiing does cost extra. = The rooms are actually broken up into two-bedroom villas, all with = air-conditioning and private terraces with hammocks. Please note that = the tournament price is for double occupancy, that is, two people to a = room. Other fun: We are planning on several fun events, including a bonfire on the beach = and an excursion to Acapulco to experience its world-famous nightlife. = Details will be forthcoming. Money matters: The price per player of the tournament package is $425. This includes = five days and four nights (double occupancy) in an all-inclusive resort, = all meals and national drinks, transportation to/from fields, a T-shirt, = and a disc. Transportation to and from the airport is extra, but should = be less than $25 round trip. Please note that this is based on an = exchange rate of 9.2 pesos to the dollar. Keep in mind that December of = an election year is traditionally somewhat volatile, and we may have to = make an adjustment if the exchange rate should rise by more than 10%, or = we won't be able to cover costs.=20 If you decide you want to come, we need a deposit to reserve your room = at the Parador del Sol. Instructions for wiring money are on the = tournament web page. Before you send money, though, please get in touch = with Beto Stern at astern@multibix.com to let him know it's coming. I hope this sounds like something you might want to do. If you have any = questions you can e-mail me at besttrvl@prodigy.net.mx or = andersonlinda_us@yahoo.com or anyone listed at the tournament web site = at www.discovolador.com/fiesta2001/ . Hope to see you in January. Thanks, Linda Anderson ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C02CAB.CE2A91E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi! My name is Linda Anderson, and I’m a = beginning Ultimate=20 player and the Accomodations Coordinator that is helping organize the = Ultimate=20 Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta. It is a hat tournament that is going to be = held just=20 outside of Acapulco, Mexico, January 17-21, 2000 (Wednesday through = Sunday). We=20 are writing to teams in the = U.P.A. to=20 make sure they are aware of this tournament, which should be a lot of = fun and is=20 also intended to help Ultimate grow in Mexico. = Here’s the=20 scoop:

The tournament:
The arrival day isWednesday the=20 17th. Then on Thursday the 18th we are=20 planning on having a mellow day with lots of beach Ultimate, perhaps a = game or=20 two on grass. This was to allow stragglers to arrive and give everyone = time to=20 relax and get into vacation mode. On Friday and Saturday the hat = tournament=20 would start, although some beach Ultimate can be mixed in. On Sunday the = 20th we=20 would revert to vacation mode, going back to the beach since nobody is = going to=20 want to play a final after the Saturday night bash and also ensuring = nobody=20 misses anything if they have to catch an early flight.

As I = mentioned, we=20 have planned this tournament not only to have a good time, but to help = promote=20 Ultimate in Mexico. A lot of people will be invited to observe and = learn,=20 including PE teachers, government people, and the media. In addition to = watching=20 the games they will be participating in some clinics or presentations. = Any help=20 you might want to give would be appreciated!

The location:
Pie de la Cuesta is a beach located = about 25=20 minutes from downtown Acapulco. It's a low-key, unspoiled, gorgeous = beach that=20 is famous for its sunsets. It is bordered on one side by the Pacific and = on the=20 other by a fresh-water lagoon on which you can kayak, waterski, etc. The = hotel,=20 Parador del Sol, is the only five-star hotel in the area. You can check = out its=20 web page at www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/=

 The tournament package is all-inclusive, which = means it=20 includes three meals (all-you-can-eat buffets) per day and all sodas and = "national beverages" (tequila and beer, what more could you need??) you = can=20 consume. If you have any energy to spare after playing disc, a variety = of sports=20 are offered for free, although water skiing does cost extra. The rooms = are=20 actually broken up into two-bedroom villas, all with air-conditioning = and=20 private terraces with hammocks. Please note that the tournament price is = for=20 double occupancy, that is, two people to a room.

Other fun:
We = are=20 planning on several fun events, including a bonfire on the beach and an=20 excursion to Acapulco to experience its world-famous nightlife. Details = will be=20 forthcoming.

Money matters:
The price per player of the = tournament package=20 is $425. This includes five days and four nights (double occupancy) in = an=20 all-inclusive resort, all meals and national drinks, transportation = to/from=20 fields, a T-shirt, and a disc. Transportation to and from the airport is = extra,=20 but should be less than $25 round trip. Please note that this is based = on an=20 exchange rate of 9.2 pesos to the dollar. Keep in mind that December of = an=20 election year is traditionally somewhat volatile, and we may have to = make an=20 adjustment if the exchange rate should rise by more than 10%, or we = won’t be=20 able to cover costs.

If you decide you want to come, we need a deposit to = reserve=20 your room at the Parador del Sol. Instructions for wiring money are on = the=20 tournament web page. Before you send money, though, please get in touch = with=20 Beto Stern at astern@multibix.com to let him know it’s = coming.

I hope this sounds like something you might want to = do. If you=20 have any questions you can e-mail me at besttrvl@prodigy.net.mx or andersonlinda_us@yahoo.com or anyone = listed at=20 the tournament web site at www.discovolador.com/fie= sta2001/ .   Hope to see you in = January.

Thanks,
Linda=20 Anderson

 

------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C02CAB.CE2A91E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 3 12:54:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e93Bpcx12177 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:51:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e93BpaJ12162 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:51:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from aisle.tesco.net (aisle.tesco.net [194.73.73.167]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e93BpZ210391 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:51:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from [212.140.73.64] (helo=ianstebb) by aisle.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13gQbb-0004pw-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:51:31 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c02d30$e239e8e0$40498cd4@ianstebb> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed Nationals Results Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 12:54:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all the teams who came to play Nationals this weekend. Your competetiveness and your excellent spirit makes all the hassle worth it! Also, thanks to Red fro hosting the tournament. The results: 1 Chevron 2 Wage 3 Blue Arse Flies 4 KUPA 5 Drop Dead Gorgeous 6 Mild Mannered Janitors 7 Mud Culture 8 Strange Blue 9 Red 10 Calimocho 11 Mowhawks 12 Sneeeky's 13 More Mild Mannered Janitors Spirit- Mud Culture Once I get some info about how many teams will be invited to Europeans, I'll be in touch with teams who finished high enough to qualify. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 3 18:23:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e93HL0U12641 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:21:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e93HKxJ12633 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:20:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h008.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e93HKwY05882 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:20:58 +0100 (BST) Received: (cpmta 17343 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2000 17:20:49 +0000 Date: 3 Oct 2000 17:20:49 +0000 Message-ID: <20001003172049.17342.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 3 Oct 2000 17:20:49 GMT Received: from [194.82.103.44] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 03 Oct 2000 17:20:49 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.0.10 Subject: Anyone seen Archie? X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Archie (ex-Bear and Horse Bandit?), are you out there? Can you contact me, we need some sportshall details from you? Mal. mbm (SD2K) mta99@bigfoot.com 07720 142 720 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 3 20:04:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e93J2rY27004 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:02:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e93J2qJ26998 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:02:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from imo-r06.mail.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.6]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e93J2kY11359 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:02:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from Chuckaway@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.24.) id 8.cc.acc8fbe (4197) for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:02:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuckaway@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:02:11 EDT Subject: 24 Hour Charity Ultimate Fest To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 140 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e93J2qJ26999 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The main details: 24 hour tournament 12 teams Venue = London First Come First Served Entry 'fee': raise £200 from charitable friends and family Dear all, I've started teaching at a new school and already we've got a team of bright young things (who want to call themselves whoosh (unless I can talk them out of it)) who want to do their bit for charity. So, in aid of Action-aid, we are going to hold a noon till noon 24 hour tournament on the weekend of the 4th and 5th of November in a sports hall in Hammersmith (how appropriate!) in London. Just to let you know, the normal 24 hour tournament accommodation will be provided - i.e. around the edge of your pitch, your cars, a spare squash court. We are planning to have twelve teams in all, so that will be 4 hours of playing time each in a gigantic round-robin format. Entry requirements are that, with the aid of sponsorship forms sent to you, each team will raise at least £200. That sounds a lot, and it is a lot - we want to raise a lot, but it might just mean each player raising £20 which is doo-able. If you do enter and it turns out you can't quite make £200 we won't kick you out, it is just a target. Though there will a prize for the team that looks like it has raised the most. Although we will be a school team we are looking for teams of all abilities to enter, though we only have limited spaces so you'd better all hurry. First come first served and all that. If you are interested in entering, or just want more info, please reply to chuckaway@aol.com and for flexible communication you can give me a ring on 020 8743 2231. Thanks, Charlie (of Headrush/ Village People/ Playthings/ .....) Congratulations you have reached the end of this e-mail. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 4 20:10:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e94J5vW11675 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:05:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e94J5uJ11668 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:05:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e94J5s227467 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:05:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dailup4.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.4]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17091 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:13:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <00ab01c02e36$94c00de0$04a592c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "britdisc" References: <001701c02d30$e239e8e0$40498cd4@ianstebb> Subject: Re: Mixed Nationals Results Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 20:00:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Mixed Nationals write-up in the Leicester Mercury at:- http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/scripts/edarchdisplay.asp?section=Loca l+news&ID=160483&source=LM&s=edit%2C+edit&area=Latest+news%2C+Latest+news&op ensect=Local+News%2C+Local+News Make sure you get the whole address in you browser!!!! Ben Red 10 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 5 11:40:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e95AaYZ06503 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:36:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95AaXJ06485 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:36:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from rw-gw-01.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95AaV207946 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:36:32 +0100 (BST) Received: by rw-gw-01.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4DLD1GAC>; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:36:23 -0700 Message-ID: <61C392E65B04D411897400062938B3E8D773A5@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc Subject: RE: Mixed Nationals Results Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 03:36:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "The title eventually went to Manchester, who beat rivals London in a close-fought match yesterday which ended 15-13." Hmmm, reporters just don't seem to understand team names do they? -- Neil Travers DDG From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 5 11:52:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e95Ap5k09986 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:51:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95Ap4J09973 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:51:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from eugate03.e-mail.com (eugate03.e-mail.com [194.196.143.91]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95AowY20944 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:50:58 +0100 (BST) Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id KAA120996 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:50:28 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:52:39 +0100 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BB0174F3CB@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: "britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Mixed Nationals Results Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:52:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Maybe if they all had sensible names like Red... Alex (Under the Influence, Freak Show, Mwnci See) -----Original Message----- From: Travers, Neil [mailto:Neil.Travers@BroadVision.com] Sent: 05 October 2000 11:36 To: britdisc Subject: RE: Mixed Nationals Results "The title eventually went to Manchester, who beat rivals London in a close-fought match yesterday which ended 15-13." Hmmm, reporters just don't seem to understand team names do they? -- Neil Travers DDG All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email and any attachments are only for the use of the addressee. It may contain information which is legally privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 5 12:10:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e95B7k613817 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:07:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95B7iJ13805 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:07:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95B7XY23157 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:07:39 +0100 (BST) Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:12:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc Subject: RE: Mixed Nationals Results Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:12:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Women rely on thinking and thought." Is that what they call multi-tasking?! > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Ravilious [SMTP:ben@ravilious.net] > Sent: 04 October 2000 20:00 > To: britdisc > Subject: Re: Mixed Nationals Results > > Mixed Nationals write-up in the Leicester Mercury at:- > > http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/scripts/edarchdisplay.asp?section=Lo > cal+news&ID=160483&source=LM&s=edit%2C+edit&area=Latest+news%2C+Latest+new > s&opensect=Local+News%2C+Local+News > > Make sure you get the whole address in you browser!!!! > > Ben > Red 10 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 5 13:03:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e95C1Md00975 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:01:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95C1LJ00962 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:01:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e95C1K218922 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.239]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA23175 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:01:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA21559 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:01:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:01:18 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tourni Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, We have already recived a large number of entries and will have no problem filling all 32 spots. I will send out a confirmations email in the next day or so to confirm that cheques have been recieved. This will not hawever confirm that teams have spaces, as we run a first come first serve system where all teams who apply before the closing date will get one team in. I have decided because of the large number of entries received to move the closing date forward to the 20th october. Any more entries should be sent to: Paul Eastman Flat 1F2 44 Warrender Pk Rd Marchmont Edinburgh EH9 1HH With a cheque for 90GBP made out to EUUFC Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 9 11:00:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e999gQm22911 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:42:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e999gOJ22906 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:42:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from gatekeeper.astra.com (gatekeeper.astra.com [192.71.102.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e999ZI209537 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:38:18 +0100 (BST) Received: by gatekeeper.astra.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA25220; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:28:32 +0200 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Message-Id: From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Player info Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:26:29 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can someone give me a rough figure for how many ultimate players there are in the UK please? Cheers Suze BAF ___________________________________________________________________________ AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 9 17:47:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e99GgbX03843 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:42:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e99GgXJ03812 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:42:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e99GgW220678 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:42:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from charlesm (charles.mead.easynet.co.uk [195.40.244.78]) by latimer.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AF99538E1; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:42:23 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: "Charlie Mead" From: "Charlie Mead" To: , Subject: Re: Player info Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:28:18 +0100 Message-ID: <01c0320d$eeb0c620$4ef428c3@charlesm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good question. If anyone has a definitive answer please let me know also as I often get asked and sometimes guess (usually over ). In the past year I have seen two articles state 700 and 2,000 but I guess this is journalists making it up or taking other figures out of context. I usually trawl the BUF website, add the number of teams and multiply by 20 for a rough figure. Charlie Mead Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee +44-121-449-3382 (home) +44-121-693-5363 (work) +44-121-693-5369 (FAX) +44-(0)802-321-710 (mobile) www.wfdf.org -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: 09 October 2000 11:41 Subject: Player info > > >Can someone give me a rough figure for how many ultimate players there are >in the UK please? > >Cheers >Suze >BAF >___________________________________________________________________________ >AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood >Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England >Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 >suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 9 19:06:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e99I49024211 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:04:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e99I47J24205 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:04:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e99I46228874 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:04:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dailup118.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.118]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA01327 for ; Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:11:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <005901c0321b$cce15880$76a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: References: <01c0320d$eeb0c620$4ef428c3@charlesm> Subject: Re: Player info Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:49:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Never easy to judge. The only solid figure is that there were 600 people on this years Tour roster. Given that there are around other 100 non-tour teams out there (some more active than others and some more distinct than others) I would think its fair to say that there are another 1000 people who play at least occasionally. Should you count all the new recruits at university freshers fairs? 50 uni teams x around 50 new recruits per team = 2500 new players but how many stay? Suzie, why do you ask? Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation ----- Original Message ----- From: Charlie Mead To: ; Sent: 09 October 2000 17:28 Subject: Re: Player info > Good question. If anyone has a definitive answer please let me know also as > I often get asked and sometimes guess (usually over ). In the past year I > have seen two articles state 700 and 2,000 but I guess this is journalists > making it up or taking other figures out of context. > > I usually trawl the BUF website, add the number of teams and multiply by 20 > for a rough figure. > > Charlie Mead > Chair WFDF Ultimate Committee > +44-121-449-3382 (home) > +44-121-693-5363 (work) > +44-121-693-5369 (FAX) > +44-(0)802-321-710 (mobile) > www.wfdf.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suzanne.Penfold@astrazeneca.com > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Date: 09 October 2000 11:41 > Subject: Player info > > > > > > > >Can someone give me a rough figure for how many ultimate players there are > >in the UK please? > > > >Cheers > >Suze > >BAF > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >AstraZeneca R&D Charnwood > >Discovery Bioscience, Bakewell Road, Loughborough, Leics LE11 5RH, England > >Tel: +44 (0)1509 644180 Fax: +44 (0)1509 645557 > >suzanne.penfold@astrazeneca.com > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 10 10:04:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9A90l115224 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:00:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9A90kJ15215 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:00:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from box.digitalasylum.co.uk (box.uu.digitalasylum.co.uk [195.217.170.186]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9A90j226638 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:00:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from MORPHEUS (morpheus.uu.digitalasylum.co.uk [195.217.170.161]) by box.digitalasylum.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA04670 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:38:21 +0100 From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: Subject: Warwick Bears Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:07:25 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to spam BritDisc, but I don't have any current contact details... Can anyone from Bears who knows the e-mail address of any of the exec, please e-mail me their details straight away? The club's e-mail account / web site is due to expire on Friday unless action is taken to re-register it... Cheers, Ralf -- Ranulf Doswell, Digital Asylum Limited Phone: 024 7663 2767 (intl +4424 7663 2767) Fax: 024 7663 4370 (intl +4424 7663 4370) Mobile: 07968 199 662 (intl +4479 6819 9662) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 10 11:03:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9A9t8l28926 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:55:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9A9suJ28891 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:54:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9A9st206060 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:54:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01362 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:03:10 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200010101003.LAA01362@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:14:25 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9A9svJ28897 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 21 OCTOBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS Location: Concorde Sports Centre Sheffield - [Indoor Ultimate] 16 Beginners teams 8 Experienced teams Price £80 Robert Owen 25 Bute Street, Crookes, Sheffield, S10, Main Email: GGP99RDO@SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Alternative Email: robertowen1@hotmail.com Home Phone: 0114 2669647 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 24 HOUR CHARITY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT Location: Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate] For Action Aid Hoping to raise over £2000 Lots of playing time around the clock! Entry 'fee: teams to raise as close to (or more than) £200. Please contact me early for an entry slot and so that I can send you sponsorship forms. Charlie Ben-Nathan First Floor Flat, 7 Coningham Road, London, , W12 8BP Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com Home Phone: 020 8743 2231 Work Phone: 020 8741 1851 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - SINGLES MATCHPLAY IV Location: Ashton Court, Bristol - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ 18 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2000 Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] Space for 20-24 teams Limited floor space so book early Price: £95 (cheque payable to Blue Arse Flies) http://www.bluearse.fly.to/ James 'Balti' Hewitson 8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ Main Email: James.Hewitson@zurich.com Home Phone: 01488 682943 Work Phone: 01793 506580 Mobile: 07747 844401 ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 10 11:24:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9AAIZx06821 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:18:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9AAI6J06762 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:18:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub3.hull.ac.uk (Puccini.ucc.hull.ac.uk [150.237.196.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9AAI5208718 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:18:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from humus.ucc.hull.ac.uk by puccini.ucc.hull.ac.uk; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:16:34 +0100 Received: from 23dfx92495 [150.237.82.41] by humus.ucc.hull.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 13iwSV-0007TW-00; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:16:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01c032a3$26c88f30$2952ed96@23dfx92495.hull.ac.uk> From: Mark Fulford To: britdisc Subject: sheffiel tournie Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:16:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C032AB.886CEC10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C032AB.886CEC10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me if there are any places left for the upcoming = sheffield beginners tournie at the end of this month? cheers marky mark. hulltimate. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C032AB.886CEC10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C032AB.886CEC10-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 10 13:14:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9ACBkK17200 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9ACBiJ17190 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9ACBd227801 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27049 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from B25A-18.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b25a-18.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.24.127]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9ACBbn01297 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:37 +0100 (BST) From: Andy Barr Reply-To: asb297@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: F.A.O. Rob Owen, r.e. Sheffield beginners tournie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:36 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9ACBiJ17191 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to abuse the britdisc list but I haven't got Rob's address. Rob, sorry about the delay with the money but it is my fault as I made it back to Soton late last week with the chequebooks. The cheque (£240)was posted on Saturday but I suspect that the postbox was emptied about midday on Monday - it's in the union. So, all being well it should get to you tomorrow. If you haven't got it by Thursday could you let me know and we'll get another one sent. Looking forward to a quality tourny and some great Sheffield hospitality! Cheers, Andy Barr, Treasurer Skunks > > You're still booked for two beginner teams and one experienced but > there is no sign of the cheque yet. Wait a few more days but if > you're worried cancel it and send a replacement to Robert Owen > 40 Cobden View Road > Crookes > Sheffield > S10 1HQ > > Looking forward to seeing you there. > Rob ---------------------- Andy Barr asb297@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 10 15:27:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9AENU627764 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:23:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9AENMJ27725 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:23:23 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9AEMnY06038 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:22:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk (pde@remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.239]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id PAA27279 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:22:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (pde@localhost) by remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA29417 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:22:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: remote.dcs.ed.ac.uk: pde owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:22:41 +0100 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tourni Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Here is the list as promised of cheques received for entry to beginners. As I said before this does NOT confirm you entries, I'll let you know on the 20th Oct about the exact number of entries you have received. Jedi Hulltimate OW! Grantham Far Flung Fish Northern Lights Agilent Mowhawks Faling Skies Trinety School (El Nino) Diablo Allstars Stirling Phat 'Eds Shooting Stars Purple Haze Jesters These are all the cheques I've recied as of this morning, if any are in the post I'll let you know as soon as they arive. 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Purchase of this stock may be considered speculative, and may result in the loss of some or all of any investment made. ================================================================= Removal Instructions: The only way to deleted from further communication is to reply with exclude in the subject line or double click on this link. mailto:exclude8860@uole.com?subject=EXCLUDE From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 11 09:45:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9B8hl829341 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:43:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9B8hkJ29336 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:43:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9B8hjY03469 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:43:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from tot-tj.proxy.aol.com (tot-tj.proxy.aol.com [152.163.213.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id EAA06406; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from addie (AC9B1546.ipt.aol.com [172.155.21.70]) by tot-tj.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9B8hA110513; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 04:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , , , Subject: Inaugural Regent's Park Beginner's Tourney 14/15 October - Final Terms Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:43:02 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Apparently-From: Londonultimate@aol.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Well, not everyone has given me the money they ought to have given me (which is rather predictable) But we have had verbal confirmations from Imperial, Kings, Sublime Patriots, Strange Blue, and proper confirmation from Blue on Blue. UCL will have enough for two teams which makes it, erm, a 7 team tournament. Seriously, if I have missed anyone who said they were coming, the best way to remind me is to send the cheque. START TIMES FOR SATURDAY 14/10/00 For Trainers: Thanks to everyone who has offered to help out with the Clinic date. Please be at the Hammerage pitches at 930am for some basic admin stuff to decide who helps where. For Players attending clinics: The clinic stations should be up and running by about 10am - 1030am. You have to make sure that you have paid for your entry. Look for Erik Jelinek of UCL and he will give you our stamp of approval. Clinics will end at about 2 - 3pm, after which we shall have a short break to reorganize for the scrimmage session. The experienced / newbie ration is 2 to 5 on pitch. Day finishes at 6pm Party will be at Easy J's at UCLU on Gordon Street. You don't have to pay money on the door but you will have to have student IDs (and be of legal age to drink) to, erm, drink. If you do not have student IDs then stick to someone from UCL who will be able to sign you in as a guest. Showers will either be on site at Regent's Park or at University of London Union, on Malet Street. START ON SUNDAY 15/10/00 Taking it easy with an 11am start time. Scrimmage will follow on from Saturday's results. Tournament format tbc but will probably be a twin pool round robin, then point difference shebang. ACCOMODATION Thank you to everyone who has offered up floor space to house travelling teams. But we still need more! So if you are in London and can clear enough space from your living room for people to put sleeping bags down, then please be generous and let me know. Cheers, I think that is everything everyone needs to know. For any last minute announcements, check with the website www.undercoverlovers.co.uk See you there, Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 11 10:39:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9B9bO614495 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:37:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9B9b3J14428 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:37:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from tantalum.btinternet.com (tantalum.btinternet.com [194.73.73.80]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9B9b2202438 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:37:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from [62.7.76.196] (helo=8945cjm20378) by tantalum.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #83) id 13jIJC-0003rN-00; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:36:23 +0100 Message-ID: <004401c03366$8133a4a0$bb59073e@8945cjm20378> From: "Laura Pearce" To: "Sally Quigg" , "Wendy Wiseman" , "Dave Trovell" , , , , "Erin Primas" , "Hannah Easter" , "Jodi Emmerton" , "Kate Sygrove" , "Rebecca Forth" , "Sam Stephenson" , "Shirley Fuller" , "Tara Jewell" , "Terri Whitehead" , "Gary and Kris" , Cc: "britdisc" Subject: London Women's Game/Practice Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:32:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0336E.889D4040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0336E.889D4040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all (apologies to those who receive this more than once) I am hoping to start having regular practices in London for women who = want to play and practice. The first session will be this weekend on = Saturday 14th and will be on Clapham Common. (In future, the practice = will usually be held in Regents Park, but for this week it will be in = Clapham.) Location - meet at the London League pitches - if you don't = know where they are, contact me. It is not an exclusive practice - ie it is open to any women who want to = play and develop their skills. Start time will be 1:00pm and will be finished by 3:30pm. If you want to come along, let me know asap (preferably by Friday = morning) so I can see if there are enough people for a game. If there = aren't, I'll let those who want to play know by Friday lunchtime. (If you can't make it this week, let me know if you are interested in = coming to future practices.) Please pass this onto anyone who may not receive this. Hope to see some of you on Saturday. 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Hi all (apologies to those who receive = this more=20 than once)
I am hoping to start having regular = practices in=20 London for women who want to play and practice.  The first session = will be=20 this weekend on Saturday 14th and will be on Clapham Common.  (In = future,=20 the practice will usually be held in Regents Park, but for this week it = will be=20 in Clapham.)  Location - meet at the London League pitches - if you = don't=20 know where they are, contact me.
It is not an exclusive practice - ie it = is open to=20 any women who want to play and develop their skills.
Start time will be 1:00pm and will be = finished by=20 3:30pm.
If you want to come along, let me know = asap=20 (preferably by Friday morning) so I can see if there are enough people = for a=20 game. If there aren't, I'll let those who want to play know by Friday=20 lunchtime.
(If you can't make it this = week, let me know=20 if you are interested in coming to future practices.)
Please pass this onto anyone who may = not receive=20 this.
Hope to see some of you on = Saturday.
 
Laura Pearce
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C0336E.889D4040-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 11 11:51:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9BAmQf08017 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:48:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9BAmKJ08005 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:48:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f270.hotmail.com [209.185.130.186]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9BAmD215242 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 11:48:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 03:47:55 -0700 Received: from 194.131.238.82 by lw1fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:47:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.131.238.82] From: "Rebecca Forth" To: laurapearce@btinternet.com, sally.quigg@beattie-lon.co.uk, wendy.wiseman@cityindex.co.uk, David.Trovell@omduk.com, V.C.White@tesco.net, katesmiles@totalise.co.uk, sally.riggs@ac.com, yo@eprimas.demon.co.uk, hannah.easter@philips.com, jemmerton@changepoint.com, ksygrove@yahoo.co.uk, Sam.Stephenson@barclayscapital.com, shirley.fuller@eu.effem.com, tsjewell@hotmail.com, terri@cloe.demon.co.uk, Gary.Jarvis@rocketmail.com, hsp298@lineone.net Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: London Women's Game/Practice Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:47:55 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2000 10:47:55.0675 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6737EB0:01C03370] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'll be there, hopefully this cold will stay at bay til after the practice! Rebecca xx >From: "Laura Pearce" >To: "Sally Quigg" , "Wendy Wiseman" >, "Dave Trovell" , >, , , >"Erin Primas" , "Hannah Easter" >, "Jodi Emmerton" , >"Kate Sygrove" , "Rebecca Forth" >, "Sam Stephenson" >, "Shirley Fuller" >, "Tara Jewell" , "Terri >Whitehead" , "Gary and Kris" >, >CC: "britdisc" >Subject: London Women's Game/Practice >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:32:19 +0100 > >Hi all (apologies to those who receive this more than once) >I am hoping to start having regular practices in London for women who want >to play and practice. The first session will be this weekend on Saturday >14th and will be on Clapham Common. (In future, the practice will usually >be held in Regents Park, but for this week it will be in Clapham.) >Location - meet at the London League pitches - if you don't know where they >are, contact me. >It is not an exclusive practice - ie it is open to any women who want to >play and develop their skills. >Start time will be 1:00pm and will be finished by 3:30pm. >If you want to come along, let me know asap (preferably by Friday morning) >so I can see if there are enough people for a game. If there aren't, I'll >let those who want to play know by Friday lunchtime. >(If you can't make it this week, let me know if you are interested in >coming to future practices.) >Please pass this onto anyone who may not receive this. >Hope to see some of you on Saturday. > >Laura Pearce _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 11 18:56:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9BHs9C22872 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:54:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9BHs8J22866 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:54:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from imo-r18.mail.aol.com (imo-r18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.72]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9BHs2221930 for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 18:54:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from Chuckaway@aol.com by imo-r18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.26.) id 8.e2.addfead (4216) for ; Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuckaway@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 13:53:39 EDT Subject: 24 hour tourny To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 140 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 24 hour charity tournament (4-5th November) Just to let you all know, there are still some spaces available at this tournament - sign up now for a ridiculous amount of indoor Ultimate. Details are on the BUF events list. (or mail me back) Charlie B-N From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 11:51:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9CAl5P03436 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:47:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CAl1J03396 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:47:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CAkt217417 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:47:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from tot-ti.proxy.aol.com (tot-ti.proxy.aol.com [152.163.194.131]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id GAA08392; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from addie (AC933672.ipt.aol.com [172.147.54.114]) by tot-ti.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9CAkZf02067; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 06:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , , , Subject: Inaugural Regent's Park Beginner's Tourney 14/15 October - EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:46:26 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Apparently-From: Londonultimate@aol.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Right, trust me to forget important details like WHERE the tournament is going to be, etc... LOCATION(S): Tricky, this one. The late breaking news is that the Park authorities have not been able to fully accomodate us for the weekend because we are not classified as an official winter sport (don't ask!) but they have been kind enough to give us the two fields on Marylebone Green (which is on the southern tip of the park, West of the Broad Walk and Children's playground, 5 mins from Regent's Park / Great Portland St tubes) from 9am to 12pm Sat. and Sun. They have not been able to give us changing facilities because those pitches do not come with changing facilities. So ... The morning sessions will run from 930 am onwards instead of 10am, so the captains/trainer's meeting will be at 9am instead of 930 as previously announced. Sorry. And Sunday starts at 10am, not 11am. Sorry, again! If we have to vacate the pitches after lunch we will continue at an alternative location closer to where Hammerage/First Touch have their pickup games. All play on Saturday will cease at 3pm so that people who need showers can use the ULU showers before the Sat night crowd becomes a problem. FOOD: I will be providing Snicker bars and Mars bars for players on the day but everyone should try and sort their own drinks out. There are pubs and a Hart's supermarket about 10 mins walk from the pitches if you need to buy groceries. PARTY GAMES: Each team is invited to enter a pair of players for the 3-pint challenge shootout at the Saturday night party. Under Cover Lovers have a limited Drinking Games budget, so we will be buying (some! not all) the beers. I hope that that covers it! Cheers Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 14:48:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9CDiuD06150 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:44:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CDiiJ06065 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:44:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CDic214874 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:44:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from stu-1157134.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.138.135]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id OAA12904 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:44:24 +0100 (BST) From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Student Indoors In-Reply-To: <200010101003.LAA01362@mail-gw1> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:44:34 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, does anyone know if, when and where the Student Indoor Qualifiers are being held? Best regards, Stuart. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 15:24:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9CEM4j20492 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:22:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CEM1J20475 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:22:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CEM1Y25640 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:22:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pcdddi.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.56] helo=pootle) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13jjF5-0004Y6-00; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:21:55 +0100 Message-ID: <007701c03454$1fc252e0$3800020a@aber.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Tim Blair" From: "Tim Blair" To: "BritDisc" , "Student Ultimate" References: Subject: Student Indoor Qualifiers Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:55:40 +0100 Organization: Mwnci See - http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Evening all... I apologise for the lateness of this message, but this year's indoor Student Regional tournaments will take place in the following places... SE : Mohawks (Brighton) SW : No Frills (Cardiff) Midlands : Purple Haze (Loughborough) North : Jedi (Leeds) Scotland : Far Flung (Glasgow) Please note that there have been changes to the regions this year, caused mainly by the splitting of the North and Scotland into two seperate regions. The following list should tell you which region your team is in, and hence where you are going to. Scotland : Falling Skies (Aberdeen) Far Flung (Glasgow) Flatball Project (St. Andrews) Ro-Sham-Bo (Edinburgh) Shooting Stars (Dundee) The Source (Strathclyde) Dross Magic (Stirling) North : Disciples (Bradford) Fingers 6 (Manchester) Phat'eds (Sheffield) Jedi Children (Leeds) Northern Lights (Durham) Fish (Lancaster) Yorkie Bar Kids (York) Hulltimate (Hull) COB (Liverpool) Midlands : Purple Haze (Loughborough) Superfly (Nottingham) G7 (Grantham) Jesters (Leicester) Bears (Warwick) Mwnci See (Aberystwyth) OW! (Oxford) Team Name? (Birmingham) South West : Mythago (Bristol) No Frills (Cardiff) Picnic (Plymouth) Skunks (Southampton) Uriel (Exeter) UWE (UWE) FUBAR (Cheltenham) South East : Strange Blue (Cambridge) Jesus College (Cambridge) Disc Doctors (Imperial) Falcons (Brunel) Mohawks (Sussex) None of the Above (King's College) Toxic Ninja Attack (Canterbury) Under Cover Lovers (UCL) Surreal Genocide (Guildford) Sublime Patriots (Portsmouth) If anyone is either not on this list, or believes they are in the wrong region, then just let me know. The top three teams from each region go through to the Finals, except the Midlands, where the top four go through (due to Bears winning the Nationals last year). As for Student Indoor Finals, the proposed date is the 24th-25th February 2001. I'm currently accepting bids, so get them in... That should just about cover it. If anyone's got any questions etc, just let me know. Keep the discs flying... Tim. -- Tim Blair National Student Co-ordinator 2000-2001 Captain - Clwb Ultimate Mwnci See http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ tim@mwncisee.co.uk . From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 16:05:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9CExEI03463 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:59:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CEx8J03436 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:59:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CEx7200155 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:59:07 +0100 (BST) X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 12 Oct 00 15:48:55 +0100 X-WebMail-UserID: jgoolden Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:48:55 +0100 From: Jack Goolden To: britdisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: Message-ID: <39EFAA1C@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.06 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anybody know of a London practice suitable for begginners? I know of some people keen to get involved. Jack Chevron ----------------------------------------------- Free SMS messaging ---> http://sms.totalise.net Totalise Shop ---> http://www.totaliseshop.com ----------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 19:13:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9CIBAl23737 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:11:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CIB8J23717 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:11:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtach2.zurich.com (chmail2.zurich.com [195.28.226.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CIB7202790 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:11:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: EgoWang Fest 2000 - 18th/19th Nov Cheltenham To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 15 December 1999 Message-ID: From: "James Hewitson" Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:09:48 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CHKNH021/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 12.10.2000 20:07:37 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9CIB8J23718 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BD, EgoWang Fest 2000 Indoor Ultimate Tournament Cheltenham 18th-19th November It's the indoor season again and that means EgoWang Fest 2000. As with last year, it will be held at two halls in close proximity of each other, giving us some big pitches and plenty of playing time. These being: 'Cheltenham Rec Centre' and 'Cheltenham and Gloucester College- Hardwick Sports Hall' * Cost: £95 per team. * Accommodating approximately 20-24 teams * Limited free accommodation available (long distance teams will have priority). * Ale and grog gathering, Saturday night. * Captains meeting: 09:00 (Rec Centre) * Games start: 09:30 * Game slots: at least 20 minutes Please Send Cheques, Contact Details and pleas for accomodation to : James 'Balti' Hewitson 8 Middletons Close Eddington Hungerford Berkshire RG17 0HQ Email: James.Hewitson@zurich.com "Ready-Made Reply Slip" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BLUE ARSE FLIES: EGO WANG FEST 17TH - 18TH NOVEMBER WE'RE INTERESTED IN A WEEKEND OF SOLID ULTIMATE FRISBEE ENTERTAINMENT Team Name: Main Contact: Name : Address : Tel (Home): Tel (Work): Tel (Mobl): Fax : Email : Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 12 19:47:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9CIif828633 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:44:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CIieJ28627 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:44:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from public.uni-hamburg.de (public.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.32.55]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9CIiYY26958 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:44:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from oemcomputer (max2-193.dialin.uni-hamburg.de [134.100.45.193]) by public.uni-hamburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA91436; Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:44:31 +0200 Message-Id: <200010121844.UAA91436@public.uni-hamburg.de> From: "Ed" To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:10:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: LAST CALL FOR MALLORCA Reply-to: ed@fischbees.de X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi beach ultimate lovers! Stop dreaming of next summer: Flight prices getting cheaper every day (check out the web), some spaces left for the BEACH ULTIMATE HAT tournament on the sunny island in Spain (27.-29.10.2000). Leave the shitty weather behind and enjoy golden October in the sand: http://www.fischbees.de/mallorca Ed/Fischbees Did you know ? - fischbees love to dive ! www.fischbees.de !!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 13 16:17:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9DFDVR03790 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:13:31 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DFDPJ03724 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:13:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f213.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.213]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DFDOY23788 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:13:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:13:18 -0700 Received: from 148.197.25.38 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:13:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [148.197.25.38] From: "Lewis Glover" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pompey Project (Tournament) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:13:17 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2000 15:13:18.0155 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DD0A1B0:01C03528] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sublime Patriots have finally got off their arses and have decided to give something back to ultimate.... The first ever Pompey tournament is to be held at the Mountbatten Centre on Sunday 29th of October. It is a 16 team ONE day tournament with two divisions of eight teams each ( 8 beginner and 8 non- beginner). Beginners division: Only one experienced player on pitch at any one time, experienced player can also play in the experienced division. (Schedule has been arranged to ensure no clashes). A beginner is a player who has played for less than 3 months. Details: £40 per team 10am - 5pm (Captain's meeting 09:45) On-site cafe and bar facilities Large Viewing gallery Evening party First come first serve (Cheques payable to UPSU) To be sent to: Ultimate Committee 65 Brompton Road, Portsmouth, PO4 9AJ. More info give us a call on: 023 92 363565 and ask for Mike, Lewis or Chris. Website: www.sublimeultimate.co.uk Get moving, you're not in till I get your cheque!! (Down to 8 spaces left already!!!!!) Perfect timing to practice before Regionals. Cheers Lewis (loopy) Sublime Patriots loopy1019@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 13 16:27:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9DFQ4L08273 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:26:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DEKBJ10828 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:20:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DEK1205645 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:20:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id PAA21722 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:19:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by canna; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:19:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:19:54 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Accomodation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, We will be providing accomodation on floors for all entries to the tournie. Once I've confirmed entries on the 20th I'll ask for rough numbers so we can best suit teams to accomodation. Many thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 13 17:32:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9DGUqi25539 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:30:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DGUoJ25526 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:30:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DGUi227874 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:30:44 +0100 (BST) X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Fri, 13 Oct 00 17:20:39 +0100 X-WebMail-UserID: jgoolden Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:20:39 +0100 From: Jack Goolden To: britdisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: FWD: RE:beginners in London Message-ID: <3A070648@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.06 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >===== Original Message From "Wall, Alexander P" ===== Jack Imperial college runs outdoor practices on Wednesday afternoons and Sunday (1:30 onwards) on Hyde Park. Due to large Fresher intake the practices are pretty much full of beginners, and many of the other London Uni's attend. Tell the people concerned to mail me at alexander.wall@ic.ac.uk and I'll try and help Junior -----Original Message----- From: Jack Goolden [mailto:jgoolden@totalise.co.uk] Sent: 12 October 2000 15:49 To: britdisc Subject: Does anybody know of a London practice suitable for begginners? I know of some people keen to get involved. Jack Chevron ----------------------------------------------- Free SMS messaging ---> http://sms.totalise.net Totalise Shop ---> http://www.totaliseshop.com ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Totalise Telecom offers a range of mobile phones and the latest accessories at competitive prices. Visit Totalise at http://www.totalisetelecom.net/store From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 13 22:37:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9DKiQH04539 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:44:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DKiPJ04534 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:44:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9DKiO221502 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:44:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from tot-wp1-wo.proxy.aol.com (tot-wp1-wo.proxy.aol.com [205.188.200.3]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id QAA26898; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from addie (AC8F4E37.ipt.aol.com [172.143.78.55]) by tot-wp1-wo.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e9DKhnf19059; Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , , , Subject: RE: Inaugural Regent's Park Beginner's Tourney 14/15 October - LAST MINUTE EMERGENCY Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 21:43:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Apparently-From: Londonultimate@aol.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, I am really sorry to announce that Friday the 13th has struck our little shindig!! Believe it or not, the ULU building where our showers for the weekend are / were located are closed because ... there was a FIRE!! This means that there are no free showers for Saturday!! I know this sucks, but the building was on fire and there was onthing I could do about it. The good news is that there are showers available still at the Bloomsbury gym and the YMCA off Tottenham Court Road. The bad news is that these will cost you about 3-5 pounds to use. More good news, there will be a free cloak room at the party in Easy J's so your bags and gear ought to be safe. Even more good news! Red Bull will be coming along at some time to give us all wings! Not literally of course ... But there are no showers. If anyone coming has a clever idea (ie sneak into halls) about where we can clean up, then let me know tomorrow. At 930am!! Do not be late! Cheers Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers Tel: 07989988367 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Oct 14 10:14:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9E8I3d29501 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:18:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9E8HqJ29477 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:17:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9E8Hp223117 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:17:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13kMVr-00009V-00; Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:17:51 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 14 Oct 00 09:17:50 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.48); 14 Oct 00 09:17:41 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimATE@egroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:17:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sheffield beginners tournament X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: <1D415FED085C@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thankyou to everyone who entered the tournament and I apoligise for the lack of postings keeping you up to date. The teams who have successfully entered are... Beginners 1. Phat Eds 1 2. Phat Eds 2 3. Jesters 1 4. Jesters 2 5. Bears 1 6. Bears 2 7. Purple Haze 8. YBK 9. Mythago 10. Jedi 1 11. Jedi 2 12. Skunks 1 13. Skunks 2 14. Kings College London Experienced 1. Little Shef 2. Odd Job 3. Jesters 4. YBK 5. Phat Eds 6. Mythago 7. Skunks I haven't been able to get to the post box yesterday and DJ has been keeping track of things. I'm expecting cheques from a number of teams if the cheques arrived on the same day then priority will go to the team that contacted mr first who are in order..... Mwnci See Hulltimate Stourbridge Superfly Random Fling Bradford I've spoken to most of thees teams already so they know what the situation is and will contact those who are in again on Monday. I will accomadate everyone but it is proving difficult to find hosts so if anyone has or can arrange their own accomadation it would be appreciated. If you can't I WILL find you somewhere. I have directions to the sports centre and other details which I can post by snail mail. If the teams who are in could inform me of how many of them there are and when they are arriving that wouyld be great ( Friday or Saturday ). I am away until Monday morning so soryy I can't get back to you this weekend. 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Sales/Wholesale Inquiries WELCOME (not MLM). ======================================================== Reply with delete in the subject box to be excluded from further communication or double click on this link. mailto:exclude6080@uole.com?subject=delete ======================================================== ***International Commercial E-mail Marketing Services available*** Click on the below link for complete details. mailto:marketing45@mixmail.com?subject=Marketing-Services From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 16 13:52:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9GAkKp26856 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:46:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9GAkHJ26829 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:46:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp2.mail.yahoo.com (smtp2.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.32]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9GAkE225365 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:46:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from pf7s03a02.client.global.net.uk (HELO addie) (195.147.147.248) by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2000 10:46:07 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Reply-To: From: "Adam Keen" To: , , , Subject: Tournament Report: Inaugural Regent's Park Beginner's Tourney 14/15 October Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:45:57 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, The tournament report for the Regent's Park clinic and tournament last weekend is up on www.undercoverlovers.co.uk so anyone who is interested, please feel free to visit. I will be posting pictures and other team's comments eventually, maybe even by the end of the week! Thanks again to everyone who helped make it such a great day out. Cheers Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 16 14:34:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9GCPaY13512 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:25:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9GCPNJ13382 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:25:29 +0100 (BST) Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9GCPJY06557 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:25:22 +0100 (BST) Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4FP3LVN7>; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 13:01:45 +0100 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Leeds Indoor Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:59:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C03768.954742F0" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03768.954742F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LEEDS INDOOR TOURNAMENT Dec 2nd/3rd at Leeds Grammar School (same place as Tour 4)=20 Cost =A395 Spaces for up to 24 teams Accommodation is available on first come first serve basis Send Cheques to: 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Make payable to 'Mild Mannered Janitors' Arun Sharma Staff Engineer Highway Insurance Sturge Court 120 Wellington Street Leeds LS1 4LT Tel (0113) 2441266 Fax (0113) 2428226 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C03768.954742F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leeds Indoor

LEEDS INDOOR TOURNAMENT

Dec 2nd/3rd at Leeds Grammar School = (same place as Tour 4)
Cost =A395 Spaces for up to 24 = teams
Accommodation is available on first = come first serve basis

Send Cheques to:

42 Richmond Mount
Headingley
Leeds
LS6 1DF

Make payable to 'Mild Mannered = Janitors'

Arun Sharma
Staff Engineer
Highway Insurance
Sturge Court
120 Wellington Street
Leeds
LS1 4LT
Tel  (0113) 2441266
Fax (0113) 2428226

------_=_NextPart_001_01C03768.954742F0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 16 17:58:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9GFu4q03466 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:56:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9GFtrJ03399 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:55:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9GFtc215393 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:55:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:root@pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.27]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e9GFtXN23332; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:55:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA04327; Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:55:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:55:32 +0100 (BST) From: Ben Booth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: hereford-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: A New Herefordshire Geo-Team. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a messsage to announce to the world the creation of a new Geo-Club in Herefordshire. The origional aim was to get a team together to play in the Ross tournaments but we've expanded a bit from that and we're looking to from an established team who'se name will be heard far and wide, not least in the ears of Herefordians. This name has yet to be decieded though - provisionally the Flycatchers. We are establishing regular outdoor practices, running fortnightly through the winter and irregular indoor practices, also running through the winter. This is an open invitation to anyone based in this part of the world (Marches area/Welsh borders and adjacent counties), who would like to be involved, whether thats joining in the training or playing with the team. The outdoor sesions are starting on the Saturday 29th and are running fortnightly from then. We're also entering a team for BAF's indoor tournament in Cheltnam, so there's also an indoor practice on the 5th November. Let me know if you're interested, or email hereford-ultiamte@egroups.com. Cheers Ben (herford ultimate) P.S. Thanks to Blue Arse Flys for coming to train with us on Sunday. It's made a world of difference, and we got alot out of it. See you in Cheltham. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 10:50:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9H9BKD06551 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9H9B4J06466 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:11:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9H9B2Y02627 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:11:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08291 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:18:17 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200010170918.KAA08291@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:30:40 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9H9BCJ06507 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 21 OCTOBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SHEFFIELD BEGINNERS Location: Concorde Sports Centre Sheffield - [Indoor Ultimate] 16 Beginners teams 8 Experienced teams Price £80 Robert Owen 25 Bute Street, Crookes, Sheffield, S10, Main Email: GGP99RDO@SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Alternative Email: robertowen1@hotmail.com Home Phone: 0114 2669647 ____________________________________________________________ 29 OCTOBER 2000 (1 DAYS) - POMPEY PROJECT Location: Portsmouth - [Indoor Ultimate] One day Indoor Tournament Sunday 29th October 2000 10am - 5pm (Captain's meeting 09:45) 16 teams 8 beginner 8 non-beginner £40 per team Mountbatten Centre, Portsmouth On-site cafe and bar facilities Large Viewing gallery Evening social event http://www.sublimeultimate.co.uk Lewis Glover 65 Brompton Road, Southsea, Portsmouth, , PO4 9AJ Main Email: loopy1019@hotmail.com Home Phone: 023 92 363 565 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON MINI TOURNAMENT Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Ten team tournament with play from 12 till 6 each day. Mixed ability tournament with emphasis on enjoyment rather than winning. Big party, cheap drinks, a bargain at only £40! http://www.soton.ac.uk/~frisbee/tourn/fixture.htm Andy Feltham 338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, SO16 3BJ, Main Email: af199@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: ajc298@soton.ac.uk Mobile: 0794 1039847 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 24 HOUR CHARITY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT Location: Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate] For Action Aid Hoping to raise over £2000 Lots of playing time around the clock! Entry 'fee: teams to raise as close to (or more than) £200. Please contact me early for an entry slot and so that I can send you sponsorship forms. Charlie Ben-Nathan First Floor Flat, 7 Coningham Road, London, , W12 8BP Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com Home Phone: 020 8743 2231 Work Phone: 020 8741 1851 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - SINGLES MATCHPLAY IV Location: Ashton Court, Bristol - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ 18 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2000 Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] Space for 20-24 teams Limited floor space so book early Price: £95 (cheque payable to Blue Arse Flies) http://www.bluearse.fly.to/ James 'Balti' Hewitson 8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ Main Email: James.Hewitson@zurich.com Home Phone: 01488 682943 Work Phone: 01793 506580 Mobile: 07747 844401 ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - NORTHERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Leeds University - [Indoor Ultimate] Joe Bolton 23 Wood Lane, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 2AY, Main Email: eng8jrb@leeds.ac.uk Home Phone: 0113 2302098 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Indoor Ultimate] 20-24 Teams. Cost £95 cheques payable to Mild Mannered Janitors. Accommodation available. Arun Sharma 42 Richmond Mount, Headingley, Leeds, , LS6 1DF Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: 0113 2441266 x2259 ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 12:11:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9HAZm704782 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HAZUJ04677 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:35:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f151.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.151]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HAZLY14264 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:35:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:35:12 -0700 Received: from 152.71.6.48 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:35:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.71.6.48] From: "samuel rey" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: update of student team contact details Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 10:35:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2000 10:35:12.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE481260:01C03825] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Sam from FlyTNT here... about our students down at the Notts Trent Uni... I would like to change the details on that contact list to Samanir@hotmail.com 07866 336643 62a Nottingham Road. i tried changing the info on the web, but, as i do not have access to the original email address... i cannot confirm. please amend / advise.... thanks sam _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 17:38:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9HFqFW24281 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:52:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HFq8J24253 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:52:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HFq6212508 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:52:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:51:46 -0700 Received: from 194.82.103.43 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:51:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.43] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate Rules Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 08:51:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2000 15:51:46.0076 (UTC) FILETIME=[27186DC0:01C03852] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Where can I obtain (online) the current version of rules for Ultimate? More importantly, is there a subset of rules for indoor play? Ultilinks and the BUF site didn't provide a conclusive solution. Are we on WFDF rules?? Thanks Tony Random Fling _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 18:39:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9HGdmI10828 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:39:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HGdgJ10763 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:39:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from hydrogen.cen.brad.ac.uk (hydrogen.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.241.18] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HGdf227104 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:39:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk [143.53.238.5]) by hydrogen.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12702 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:39:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from CIVC02CPC10_0.civ.brad.ac.uk (civc02cpc10.civ.brad.ac.uk [143.53.25.10]) by kestrel.cen.brad.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21067 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:39:37 +0100 (BST) From: "Felix B. Merry" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:39:04 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: jedi children In-Reply-To: <200010170918.KAA08291@mail-gw1> References: <200010170918.KAA08291@mail-gw1> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 5.1.1 Build (10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sorry BUF, this was my only way of contacting the jedi children, cos the Leeds Uni home page has gone daft. Hello any jedi children out there, I understand that you play in a school somewhere along the no.1 bus route from 2 until 4 on wednesdays. I shall endeavor to find tommorrows session, but any hints to aid my quest would be very welcome. I have been sent on this quest as an emissary of the bradford disciples, but I shall bring no cultural gifts or offerings as is expected of your average ambasador. If there are any mission hints out there, can you send them straight to my email rather than all the buf subscribers. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Felix Merry F.Merry@bradford.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 18:44:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9HGo5e14312 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:50:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HGntJ14246 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:50:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from rw-gw-01.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HGncY01806 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:49:44 +0100 (BST) Received: by rw-gw-01.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:49:19 -0700 Message-ID: <61C392E65B04D411897400062938B3E8D773EB@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate Rules Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:49:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk http://www.wfdf.org/2000ultirules.htm AFAIK, there are no written rules for indoor ultimate. The EFDF may have something... -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 18:48:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9HHA2Z20357 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:10:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HH9uJ20330 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:09:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from navy.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@navy.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.49]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9HH9tY02986 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:09:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by navy.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 13laFM-0006ZD-00; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:09:52 +0100 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13laFM-0006U9-00; Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:09:52 +0100 To: antony_marsh@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Ultimate Rules Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:09:52 +0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britain uses WFDF rules, which you can find here http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/rules/ in a very nice web site. The indoor rules are not included, sorry. Hope this helps David > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 17 18:02:48 2000 > From: "Antony Marsh" > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Ultimate Rules > > Where can I obtain (online) the current version of rules for Ultimate? More > importantly, is there a subset of rules for indoor play? > > Ultilinks and the BUF site didn't provide a conclusive solution. Are we on > WFDF rules?? > > Thanks > > Tony > Random Fling > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 18 10:57:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9I9Gj718616 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:16:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9I9GYJ18562 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:16:39 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:18:06 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: markoleoni Subject: Re: Sheffield Beginners directions Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:34:29 +0100 From: markoleoni To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Sheffield Beginners directions > The Sheffield Beginners is taking place at the Concorde Sports Centre. > This is how to get there: > > Directions to Concorde Sports Centre > > Directions from the Motorway to Concord SC > > Travelling from the SOUTH:- leave the motorway at J34(S). Take the > third exit (A613) and travel along the viaduct to the next roundabout. > ***Take the 3rd exit - BLACKBURN RD. This is a small road immediately > after the sliproad back on to the motorway. > Take the first left, go under the bridge and turn right at the traffic > lights on to Ecclesfield Road. Proceed for approx. 1 mile then turn > left on to Bellhouse Road. At the top of the hill turn left at the > traffic lights. Concord SC is 150m on the left. > > Travelling from the NORTH:- leave the motorway at J34 (N). > Take the 6th exit - BLACKBURN RD. This is a small road immediately > after the sliproad back on to the motorway. > Then proceed as above.*** > > Directions from the City Centre to Concord SC > > Travelling from the CITY CENTRE:- take the A6135 Barnsley Road and > proceed past the Northern General Hospital (2.5 miles from the City > Centre). > Turn right at the Pheasant Public House (traffic lights at the top of > the hill) on to Hatfield House Road. > Go straight across two sets of traffic lights. > Concord SC is 150m on the left. Mark (Phat'Eds) [Attachment suppressed - message too big for britdisc] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 18 12:14:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9IAWfG18232 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:32:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9IAWZJ18191 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:32:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from web1904.mail.yahoo.com (web1904.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.53]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9IAWXY27907 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:32:34 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 21229 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2000 10:32:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20001018103226.21228.qmail@web1904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [134.36.32.186] by web1904.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 03:32:26 PDT Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 03:32:26 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mike=20Scott?= Subject: St.Andrews Captain To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could the captain of St. Andrews please email the Dundee Shooting Stars captain Sam Lord at s.t.lord@dundee.ac.uk to arrange a match. Cheers Mike Scott Shooting Stars Vice-Captain www.geocities.com/dundee_shooting_stars __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 18 22:44:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9IKSGM18278 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:28:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9IKS5J18151 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:28:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9IKRk209499 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:27:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from ben (dialup88.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.88] (may be forged)) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA15879 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:34:55 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006f01c03942$6448eee0$10a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Attention Telewest Cable17 (SW London) Viewers Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:31:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you live in the catchment area of Telewest's Cable17 channel for SW London please can you get in touch. They are looking for local teams to film for a programme about ultimate. Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 19 09:33:15 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9J7G7H23054 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:16:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9J7G1J23032 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:16:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9J7G1Y17430 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:16:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from pebley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13m9vh-0000Qu-00; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:15:57 +0100 Received: from PEBLEY/SpoolDir by pebley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 19 Oct 00 08:15:58 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by PEBLEY (Mercury 1.48); 19 Oct 00 08:15:55 +0100 From: "R.D.Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:15:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Friday Night X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.50 Message-ID: <1DB85DBF39D9@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick note to say sorry I can't get the details of friday out until about 5 this afternoon. As far I am concerned the teams coming up on Friday are... Mythago Skunks Mwnci See Jesters Due to a lack of people willing to take teams for the whole weekend this is all that has been accomadated for so hopefully I'll see the rest of you first thing on Saturday. The first games have been scheduled to be between the above teams so as long as you get to the sports centre by 9.15 there should be no problem. I will E Mail the above by 5.30 tonight. See you all soon Rob From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 19 11:26:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9J9Hdx24259 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:17:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9J9HXJ24240 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:17:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9J9HWY25506 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:17:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (spencerstuart.com [216.80.20.106]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA22377 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 04:17:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from WZiants@SpencerStuart.com) Received: from 10.51.1.50 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 19 Oct 2000 04:16:53 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Received: by eurmailhub.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <4D5FZ2W3>; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:13:31 +0100 Message-ID: <1CE8BED757A5D411B85F0002B30806B704EC1E@frantapp01.spencerstuart.com> From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: More quality frisbee publicity Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:56:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nice work! Cheers Wayne x Alte Hunde, Frankfurt [my source - The Guardian's news digest http://www.guardian.co.uk/thewrap/article/0,6279,384407,00.html] ACCIDENT PRONE. The Star ridicules the British frisbee team, which hopes to compete in the next Olympics, for constantly injuring themselves, calling them a "right bunch of tossers". [and from the Star http://www.megastar.co.uk/news/20001019n_frisbee.html] Peril of the frisbee SPINNERS: Looks like the girls don't have limp wrists NEIL CHANDLER THE British frisbee team really are a bunch of useless tossers because they keep injuring themselves. So in desperation they've hired a team doctor to tend to a raft of odd ailments caused by chucking the lightweight plastic disc around. Team members regularly suffer flinger's finger, catcher's cramp, flicker's wrist, frisbee sting or tosser's toe. The injuries keep coming thick and fast and they hope the new medic can get to the root of their problems. Our frisbee players - who hope to represent Britain at the next Olympics - have already suffered serious injuries alongside regular muscle strains and frequent ligament damage. At the recent world championships in Germany one of the British team suffered serious chest injuries. He was rushed to hospital for emergency treatment after colliding with another player. Players say the sport is not as easy as it looks, and it involves two hours of non-stop action. And they hurl the discs huge distances, with the world record standing at 211.32 metres. Players of the game - invented in America in the 1940s - want it included in the next Olympics. The team's doctor Paul Marfleet, a GP from Colchester, Essex, will act as their medical advisor. He said: "It may look easy but you have to be extremely fit. And although the rules make it a non-contact sport collisions are inevitable with people constantly at risk of twisting an ankle or pulling a muscle." The frisbee - 200m have been sold worldwide - takes its name from the Frisbee Pie Company. Their round tin lids were used by the original inventors of the game in San Luis Obispo, California, in 1947. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 19 11:54:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9J9k4a03488 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:46:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9J9juJ03419 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:46:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f245.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.245]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9J9jt201514 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:45:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 02:45:48 -0700 Received: from 130.241.72.32 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:45:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [130.241.72.32] From: "Skogshyddans Frisbee Klubb" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Vintertrofen Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:45:48 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2000 09:45:48.0728 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C528380:01C039B1] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello! We would like to invite you to the Vintertrofé, an indoortournament in Gothenburg. It will be held in january 2001. Please visit www.holmstroms.com/skogshydddan/ for further information. Rickard Kindgren Skogshyddans FK Sweden _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 19 12:45:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9JBJ8D08904 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:19:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9JBIwJ08840 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:19:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9JBIv216622 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:18:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13mDiq-0003Ur-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:18:56 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13mDj0-0001ge-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:19:06 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4GF3WGQ6>; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:18:55 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654AFFC@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: SE student league Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:18:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sorry if you've had this mail already. Hello all, as nobody last year decided to organise the SE outdoor league, this year we will. If your interested email back so I can draw up a time table. I will need team name, contact details and dates of your terms. We are intending on running the league over both terms, with matches every other week. please reply asap Cheers Loz and Jon, Discdoctors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 19 18:23:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9JGfje18540 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:41:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9JGfdJ18512 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:41:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtach2.zurich.com (chmail2.zurich.com [195.28.226.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9JGfa209709 for ; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:41:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: EgoWang Fest 2000 - 18th/19th Nov Cheltenham To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 15 December 1999 Message-ID: From: "James Hewitson" Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:40:14 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CHKNH021/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 19.10.2000 18:38:03 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9JGfiJ18534 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BD, There's only a couple of spaces left for Ego Wang 2000 (details below) so if you want to play I need to know asap Balti BAF 34 ----------------------- BD, EgoWang Fest 2000 Indoor Ultimate Tournament Cheltenham 18th-19th November It's the indoor season again and that means EgoWang Fest 2000. As with last year, it will be held at two halls in close proximity of each other, giving us some big pitches and plenty of playing time. These being: 'Cheltenham Rec Centre' and 'Cheltenham and Gloucester College- Hardwick Sports Hall' * Cost: £95 per team. * Accommodating approximately 20-24 teams * Limited free accommodation available (long distance teams will have priority). * Ale and grog gathering, Saturday night. * Captains meeting: 09:00 (Rec Centre) * Games start: 09:30 * Game slots: at least 20 minutes Please Send Cheques, Contact Details and pleas for accomodation to : James 'Balti' Hewitson 8 Middletons Close Eddington Hungerford Berkshire RG17 0HQ Email: James.Hewitson@zurich.com "Ready-Made Reply Slip" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- BLUE ARSE FLIES: EGO WANG FEST 17TH - 18TH NOVEMBER WE'RE INTERESTED IN A WEEKEND OF SOLID ULTIMATE FRISBEE ENTERTAINMENT Team Name: Main Contact: Name : Address : Tel (Home): Tel (Work): Tel (Mobl): Fax : Email : Balti BAF 34 -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9699/14/_/_/_/971707997/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BAF_Ultimate-unsubscribe@egroups.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 20 11:39:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9K9mmD02429 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9K9mcJ02368 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9K9mbY29377 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13mYmy-0006kT-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:36 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13mYn5-0002Rp-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:43 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4GF3WQJQ>; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:31 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654B00F@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: SE student league Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:48:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sorry if you've had this already, Hello everybody, we've got 9 teams so far, Discdoctors mohawks strange blue sublime toxic ninja ucl ulu falcons BOB I haven't got all the details I need from everyone, ie contact name, telephone number and e-mail. Haven't heard anything from Kings (Chris and taylor get off your arses!)or Guildford (think they have a team). Remember all are welcome Please reply quickly, as we want to start things asap Cheers Loz, Discdoctors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 20 16:27:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9KEHMB12850 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:17:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9KEHEJ12757 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:17:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from mtach2.zurich.com (chmail2.zurich.com [195.28.226.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9KEHD204179 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:17:13 +0100 (BST) Subject: Ego Wang 2000 - Cheletnham 18/19 Nov To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: BAF_Ultimate@egroups.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 15 December 1999 Message-ID: From: "James Hewitson" Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:56:28 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CHKNH021/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.3 (Intl)|21 March 2000) at 20.10.2000 16:13:38 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BD, The 24 slots for Ego Wang are now full - BUT we ARE still taking teams for the reserve list : Teams Currently Entered For Ego Wang 2000 (A = Requested Accomodation): PAID : 01: BAF 02: BAF Too 03: Mr Men 04: Angels 1 05: Angels 2 06: Baboom 07: Mild Mannered Janitors 08: Sneeekys 09: Shrub 10: Red (A) STILL TO PAY (though most in the "the cheque is in post" group): 11: Whiplash 12: Total Muppets (A) 13: Bears 1 14: Bears 2 15: Mean Bean Machine 16: Hammerage 17: Mwnci See (A) 18: UTT 19: KY Jellybabies (A) 20: Flycatchers 21: Chevron Action Flash 22: Mud Fusion (A) 23: Superfly 24: Mexican Horse Bandits Reserves: A: Under Cover Lovers Laters Balti From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Oct 21 15:23:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9LCqgq27831 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:52:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9LCq1J27759 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:52:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9LCpv226615 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:52:01 +0100 (BST) Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA19187 for ; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:51:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by canna; Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:51:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 13:51:54 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Team Confirmation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, What follows is the confirmed number of teams you have for the Beginners weekend. I'm sorry for all of those teams who didn't get the number of spots you wanted but again the event was extremely over subscribed with 44 cheques for only 32 spots. Ro-Sham-Bo 3 Jedi 2 Hulltimate 2 Grantham 2 Far Flung 2 Fish 1 Norhtern Lights 2 Agilent 1 Mohawks 1 Faling Skies 1 El Nino 1 Diablo Allstars 1 Stiriling 1 Phat 'Eds 2 Shooting Stars 2 Loughborough 2 Jesters 1 Liverpool 2 Strange Blue 1 Random Fling 1 Sex With A Chicken 1 That makes all 32 spaces full. I'll post more details closed to the event. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 23 09:55:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9N7SWw02037 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:28:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9N7SPJ02018 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:28:30 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 08:30:01 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Linda Anderson Subject: NEW PRICES for Ultimate tournament in Acapulco, Mexico Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:01:57 -0500 From: Linda Anderson Subject: NEW PRICES for Ultimate tournament in Acapulco, Mexico TO: Everyone interested in the Ultimate Fiesta in Acapulco, Mexico FROM: Linda Anderson RE: Good News!!! Hi everyone, GOOD NEWS! In response to many requests for a lower price for the Ultimate Fiesta in Pie de la Cuesta (Acapulco, Mexico) hat tournament, we've lowered the prices! (What helped was we found out that an Ultimate player here had booked his November wedding at the hotel at a lower rate; when we confronted the hotel with this they obligingly lowered the price for January). Also, the hotel has agreed to allow triple occupancy in the rooms, which also helps the price. Given this, we've decided to insist that all players MUST be at the tourney hotel Friday and Saturday night, otherwise things would just be too difficult logistically. If people really want to try to save some more money and stay at other area hotels the remaining nights, we'll provide names and telephone numbers of hotels. However, keep in mind that food and drink are not included at these places, so your saving are going to be incremental. Also, since a flat tournament fee is applied to all to cover costs, t-shirts, and transportation, you cost per night actually goes down the longer you stay. The new price plan is as follows: 4 NIGHTS Single occupancy: $550 Double occupancy: $360 Triple occupancy: $330 3 NIGHTS (Thurs, Fri, Sat) Single: $425 Double: $285 Triple: $260 2 NIGHTS (Fri, Sat) Single: $300 Double: $210 Triple: $195 Again, please note that these prices include lodging, all food and drink, entertainment, transport to/from fields, and t-shirts. See hotel web page, www.acabtu.com.mx/parador/ Airport transfers are NOT included, count on around $30 max for that. This price is the absolute bare minimum, we can't offer any group discounts at this level. The other issue is headcount. The hotel wants us to sign some kind of contract by the end of the month, so the more people we hear from and the more deposits we get before then, the better. Please e-mail me back and let me know what you think, your feedback is welcome. Thanks, Linda PS Please note that these prices are calculated on an exchange rate of 9.5. (That is, the hotel quotes us a price in pesos and we divide it by 9.5 to get the dollar price.) On December 1 the new President Fox takes control of the country; this changeover is traditionally accompanied by some volatility in the currency. If the exchange rate shoots up to 10 or more, we can throw in extras or refund some money. On the other hand, in the unlikely event that the exchange rate goes the other way, we may have to ask for more money. One way to protect yourself is to get in ALL your money before December 1. You can only benefit by doing so. [SEND REPLIES TO: Linda Anderson NOT TO BRITDISC] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 23 17:54:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9NFe7i21687 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:40:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9NFdaJ21526 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:39:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from maggiore.dsnet.it (maggiore.dsnet.it [195.250.233.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9NFdX219899 for ; Mon, 23 Oct 2000 16:39:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 4114 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2000 15:39:18 -0000 Received: from dyn180-m-bo.dsnet.it (HELO ultilinks.com) (195.250.230.180) by maggiore.dsnet.it with SMTP; 23 Oct 2000 15:39:18 -0000 Message-ID: <39F4D986.7BDD277D@ultilinks.com> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:36:22 -0700 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "EuroDisc@ira.uka.de" , BritDisc , nz-ultimate@albatross.co.nz Subject: Ultilinks Mobile Edition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey Palm users out there. You're going to like this one: http://www.ultilinks.com/mobile.html It's a version of Ultilinks for your Palm OS or Windows CE device. What does this mean? Simply, you'll always have an updated list of upcoming tournaments around the world and more than 1000 ultimate related links in your pocket. Pretty snazzy huh? [ On the same page you'll find the amazing ULTISTATS software by Alan Harder. ] Enjoy! Peldi PS.Results of the Ultilinks Ultimate Survey are coming out soon. I promise. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 25 00:56:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9OMh8d07091 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:43:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9OMh6J07086 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:43:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f168.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.168]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9OMh5Y09852 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:43:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:42:59 -0700 Received: from 62.7.81.153 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:42:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.7.81.153] From: "Lewis Glover" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pompey Project Details Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:42:59 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2000 22:42:59.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[C26B05D0:01C03E0B] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tournament Details Don't forget clocks go back on Saturday night!!! As of today the teams enter in to the Inaugural Pompey Project Tournament are as follows: Experienced Skunks Night Fever UCL Disc Doctors Sublime 1 Sublime 2 Brunel - Cheque in Post Mohawks - Cheque in Post Beginners Skunks Disc Doctors Blue on Blue Sublime 1 Sublime 2 Format 9:00am - Minibus service from Portsmouth & Southsea Station Forecourt to Sport's Hall. (Please e-mail me if you wish to use this service, with ETA of your train) On the day the minibus number will be 07713 364635 9:45am - Captains Meeting 10:00am - Games Start 4:50pm (ish) - Beginners Final 5:20pm - Experienced Final 5:45pm - Presentation 6:00pm - Kicked out of Sport's Hall 6:00pm onwards - Minibus service from Sport's Hall to Party. Every team plays at least five games of a minimum of 18 minutes long. The Sport's Hall The sport's hall is in the north of the island. It's address is: Mountbatten Centre, Northern Parade, Portsmouth. On site facilities include a cafe with seating with reasonable prices and an onsite bar with large seating area and TV's. There is also a big viewing gallery which looks down on two sides of the sports hall and a children's playground outside for those with short attention spans. Directions: (A map will be going up on our web site in the next couple of days) By Car: >From M27, follow signs to M275 Portsmouth West. Take first exit down ramp to roundabout. First exit on rounabout, signed to Mountbatten Centre. Follow one way street. Continue following signs to Mountbatten Centre (Total Time from M27 - 10 Mins). If you get lost, either ask a friendly Resident (not likely) or phone 07713 364635 By Train: You need to get to Portsmouth and Southsea Station. This station is served by trains from London, Southampton, Oxford and Brighton. There will be a minibus service from the station forecourt from 9:00am (outside the Red Star office). If you miss this then you are best getting a taxi (They are very cheap in Portsmouth, especially if your sharing, the one's outside the station will be about £4.00 but if you phone Aqua on 0800 66 66 66 they'll charge about £3.) The Party Obviously being Sunday night it's not going to be the biggest night out in the world but we are having a tournaments drinks up at the Portsmouth Union. You need student ID to get in or if you ain't a student then grab a Sublime player and we can sign you in (you'll need proper photo ID though). Directions to the party will be supplied on the day. We will be having some three pint challenges as normal. So that's about it....I think. Any problems e-mail me on loopy1019@hotmail.com or phone: 023 92 363565 or: 07713 364635 See you Sunday, Loopy (Lewis) www.sublimeultimate.co.uk PS Don't forget clocks go back on Saturday night!!! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 25 12:14:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9PA2sg01073 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9PA2lJ01043 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9PA2WY12809 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:32 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13oNOB-0004FP-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:31 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13oNOM-0007ej-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:42 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4GF3XSQN>; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:30 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654B01D@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Last call for SE student league Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:02:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Again, sorry if you've already had this mail... Hello all, This is the last call if you want to be in the south-east student league, if you want to be in it and haven't contacted me yet, you better do so now!! To all those already signed up, I'll be sending out a list of the league rules, fixture table and team contacts very shortly. The first game is wednesday 1st November (next wednesday). Cheers Loz, Discdoctors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Oct 25 19:04:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9PHlYT04454 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:47:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9PHlWr04427 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:47:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from ei.egroups.com (ei.egroups.com [208.50.99.235]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9PHlVO12471 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:47:32 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-Return: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.134] by ei.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Oct 2000 17:47:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 17:47:23 -0000 From: "Mads Jacobsen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE indoor regionals Message-ID: <8t76bb+16q7@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 139.184.14.18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9PHlXr04433 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --- In student-ultimate@egroups.com, "Mads Jacobsen" wrote: Dear all, I apologise for the delay in posting this info, but here we go: The Mohawks would like to invite teams in the South-East to the South-East Regionals. The teams in our region are as follows: Strange Blue (Cambridge) Jesus College (Cambridge) Disc Doctors (Imperial) Falcons (Brunel) Mohawks (Sussex) None of the Above (King's College) Toxic Ninja Attack (Canterbury) Under Cover Lovers (UCL) Surreal Genocide (Guildford) Sublime Patriots (Portsmouth) The tournament will, as in previous years, be held in the Sportscentre at the University of Sussex in Brighton, and it will, as in previous years, act as qualifiers for the Indoor Nationals. The top three teams qualify. We have 16 spaces, teams will be entered as follows: - First teams have priority until Friday the 10th of November. - After this date, teams will be entered on a first come, first served basis. The tournament fee will be £75. If you plan to enter more than one team, please send seperate cheques. Cheques made payable to: Mohawks Ultimate and mailed to: Mads V. Jacobsen 76b Beaconsfield Rd. Brighton BN1 6DD More information will be posted as the date nears. Until then, hope to see you one of the next 3 weekends. Mads/MMMM (Manky Mingy Monkey Man) Mohawks --- End forwarded message --- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 26 12:41:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9QBbeT24239 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QBbbr24207 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QBbaO19261 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13olLc-000767-00; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:28 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13olLj-0000KG-00; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:35 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4GF3X8F0>; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:24 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654B023@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'student-ultimate@egroups.com'" Cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: strange blue SE league Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:37:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are you guys gonna play in the SE student league ? I need confirmation NOW and a contact + details I also need to know your term dates, as cambridge has very short terms, and I need to finish the fixtures table cheers Loz, Discdoctors From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 26 14:30:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9QDRdm28026 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:27:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QDRcr28018 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:27:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from b05.egroups.com (b05.egroups.com [208.50.144.96]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9QDRbH23982 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:27:37 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-Return: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.109] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2000 13:27:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:27:16 -0000 From: "Mads Jacobsen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE indoor regionals Message-ID: <8t9bfk+76rj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 139.184.14.18 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It seems I left quite an important bit out: The tournament will be held on the 2nd and 3rd of December. My apologies. Mads/MMMM Mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 26 14:32:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9QDVag29237 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QDVZr29231 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QDVUH24502 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:30 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13on7m-00057O-00; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:18 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13on7v-0006Yg-00; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:27 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4GF3X9X2>; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:14 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B2654B029@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Rees, Lewis" To: "'student-ultimate@egroups.com'" Cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: These are the Teams for SE league Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:31:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ok folks, time is up! here are the teams for the SE student league, Discdoctors Mohawks Strange Blue Sublime Patriots Toxic Ninja UCL ULU RCA Whoosh! OW! BOB Falcons first match is on wednesday, I don't know who your playing yet,but you'll know very soon. Thanks for helping me get this organised, any queries don't hesitate to email me or give me a ring on 07779 123179. Loz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 26 15:19:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9QEH7A15867 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:17:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QEH2r15805 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:17:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from fk.egroups.com (fk.egroups.com [64.209.169.105]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9QEH1O06482 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:17:01 +0100 (BST) X-eGroups-Return: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Received: from [10.1.10.98] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Oct 2000 14:16:57 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:16:49 -0000 From: "Mads Jacobsen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE STUDENT indoor regionals Message-ID: <8t9ech+rjuj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 139.184.14.18 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Our tournament on the 2nd and 3rd of December is the Student Indoor regionals, and not the Open Indoor regionals. Once again, sorry for the confusion. Mads/MMMM Mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 26 16:24:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9QFM5d12859 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:22:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QFM3r12842 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:22:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from imo-r05.mail.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QFM2H13532 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:22:02 +0100 (BST) Received: from Chuckaway@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id 8.7b.b47bea7 (4401) for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:21:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuckaway@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.b47bea7.2729a60b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 11:21:47 EDT Subject: 24hour Charity Tournament-one slot left To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 140 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Details: 4th and 5th of November noon till noon Entry 'fee' = raise money for ActionAid for 3rd world development projects. Please, if there is any team out there who has been thinking about taking part in this tournament, there is a slot waiting for you if you can mail me back. At the moment we have 11 enthusiastic teams waiting for you to join to give us an excellent tournament format of a twelve team round robin with a final play-off game for places. That is a lot of indoor Ultimate! If you are worried that your team is a little small, eg only five of six players, then there are some people coming along who are looking to pick up for a team, alternatively, if you as an individual would like to come along then I can setup and organise a pick-up team. Any interest at all please let me know. Cheers, Charlie B-N From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Oct 26 16:41:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9QFeig19706 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:40:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QFefr19696 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:40:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9QFeeO15680 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:40:40 +0100 (BST) Received: from student_cs.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.13.78] helo=lms.student.gla.ac.uk) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13op8y-0004r6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:40:40 +0100 Received: from STUDENT_CS/SpoolDir by lms.student.gla.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 26 Oct 00 16:41:18 BST Received: from SpoolDir by STUDENT_CS (Mercury 1.48); 26 Oct 00 16:41:06 BST From: "Philip Webb" <9800137W@student.gla.ac.uk> Organization: Glasgow University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 16:41:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Scottish student indoor regionals. Reply-to: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9QFefr19697 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Guys, This years Scottish regionals are being hosted by Far Flung (University of Glasgow) in Glasgow. This applies to all university teams within the scotland, i.e.: Ro Sham Bo - Edinburgh Flatball Project - St Andrews Shooting Stars - Dundee Falling Skies - Aberdeen The Source - Strathclyde Dross Magic - Stirling Far Flung - Glasgow The tournament is being held on the 2nd and 3rd of December. Accommodation will be provided. The cost of the tournament will be £85 entry fee per team and cheques should be made out to Glasgow University Ultimate Frisbee Club, and sent care of me (of course you can trust me) to: Philip Webb flat 3/3 76 Chancellor St Glasgow G11 5PW Further details will follow. Philip Webb Far Flung - captain 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk ph: 0141 334 6123. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Oct 27 19:08:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9RI4Ca24029 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9RI4Br24019 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9RI4AO23442 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13pDrM-0005My-00; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:08 +0100 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13pDrX-0007Qg-00; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:19 +0100 Received: by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4GF3YKPV>; Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:07 +0100 Message-ID: <773CDF6F1D26D211B0B300A0C9D85B26045566F5@icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Palmer, Jonathan" To: "'student-ultimate@egroups.com'" Cc: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: SE League Details Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:04:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, After many hours in the computer room the schedule for the SE League is now finished. All the contact details, rules, and the schedule will be up on the discdoctors web site, www.discdoctors.co.uk by Monday morning. First games will be Wed 1st Nov. (i.e. this Wednesday) and will be (home team first) OW! - Falcons DiscDoctors - Toxic Ninja RCA - UCL ULU - BoB Sublime Patriots - Mohawks BYE - Whoosh Can all scores please be reported to Loz and myself by the weekend after each game. Cheers and good luck Jon & Loz From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Oct 29 16:19:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9TGETq07872 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:14:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9TGESr07865 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:14:28 GMT Received: from web4301.mail.yahoo.com (web4301.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id e9TGERH28070 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:14:27 GMT Message-ID: <20001029161421.24617.qmail@web4301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.72.70.194] by web4301.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:14:21 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:14:21 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?A=20Lurker?= Subject: Indoor Practise - South London To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Lurkers indoor practise - open Croydon (about 20 minutes from victoria) Venue 5 minutes from East Croydon Station Wednesday nights; 6 - 7.30 Starting Wednesday 1st November Interested? Get in touch! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 30 10:58:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9UAtwI20331 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:58 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UAttr20295 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:55 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UAtmH27530 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:49 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id KAA25715 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:46 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:46 GMT Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman Reply-To: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, The directions for where we are to meet on Friday 10th Nov follow. We'll meet in the same pub as last year and the years before for those who remember, although it is now longer called the physician & firkin. It's now the Crags. TEAM COACHES Again this year all coaches will be required to wear a hat while playing. THE PARTY This years party will be held in the Teviot student union. Tickets will be free and handed out on the Saturday. RECEIPTS As we are not cashing the cheques until a couple of days before the tourni we will not give out recipts in advance. Recipts will be given to all teams over the weekend with their captains pack. CAPTAINS MEETING This will be held on the Friday night as time is limited in the halls. I'll post the exact time of this later. If any teams are not intending on turning up until saturday can you please let me know ASAP. ACCOMODATION Accomodation will be provided for all teams. This will be on students floors, so please remind all players to bring sleeping bags as Edinburgh is known to de a little nippy. You will be advised of where you are staying on arrival on Friday night DIRECTIONS Here follows direction to the The Crags. There will be people to meet you there from about 8:30 pm on. 1. FROM THE AIRPORT Once you have arrived at Edinburgh Airport you can take either the taxi or the bus. You can catch either type of bus. The fare is about 4 pounds. The bus will finally travel along Princes Street, and stop on Waverley Bridge, just beside the station. Walk back up the road to Princes Street, turn right and follow the road until you get to the lights and turn right up the hill, this is North Bridge. You can KEEP walking along the road. Just after passing The Abbey pub (on South Clerk Street) take a left, and follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction, turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block. This walk will take about half an hour! OR Catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' from North Bridge, and then walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub and turn left at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Get a taxi to The Crags , which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool. 2. FROM THE BUS STATION Once you have arrived at the bus station, follow the footpath (this is to the right of the entrance to the St. James Centre) through until you reach Princes Street (about 200m away). Across the road is the bottom of North Bridge. Walk straight up North Bridge and continue along until the far end of South Clerk Street, at this set of traffic lights take a left (just after passing The Abbey pub) and follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, this walk will take about half an hour! OR >From North Bridge catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' and then walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub and turn left at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and it is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Get a taxi to The Crags, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool. 3. FROM THE TRAIN STATION Once you have arrived in Edinburgh Waverley station find the large notice board (with arrivals and departures), turn your back to it. You should see a sign for the Way Out on your left. Take the steps (rising up over the bike stands) that go up to Waverley Market, they turn right and take you up to the East end of Princes Street. Catch any bus that goes to 'South Clerk Street' from North Bridge, and then walk along in the same direction until you reach The Abbey pub, and turn left at the set of traffic lights follow the road (East Preston Street) to the T-junction and turn right, it is on the right hand side of the road after one block, opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Get a taxi to The Crags, which is opposite the Commonwealth Pool. OR Walk straight up North Bridge and continue along South Bridge, Nicolson Street, Clerk Street, South Clerk Street, at the set of traffic lights take a left (just after passing The Abbey pub) and follow the road to the T-junction and turn right. The pub is on the right hand side of the road after one block, this walk will take about half an hour! 4. BY ROAD Follow the instructions for your chosen route. A1 ROUTE Follow the A1 until you reach the A720. Continue along the road and take the first exit, A 6095. The streets you drive along are as follows: , Newcraighall Road , Niddrie Mains Road Continue along Niddrie Mains Road. After two more sets of lights, this changes name to Peffermill Road. Follow to the roundabout and take the third exit, Dalkeith Road. Follow this road until you reach the Commonwealth Pool. The Crags pub is opposite, parking is available in the pub car park, and the bar will be open. M6/M74 ROUTE Follow the M6 until it becomes the M74/A74. Keep on this road until you get to Junction 13 (of the M74) which is at Abington. Follow the signs for the A702. Remember to take the A702 when it forks right shortly after joining the A702, or you'll drive straight onto the A73. The A702 is the usual route to Edinburgh and passes through Biggar. After about 40 miles you will pass the Hillend Artificial Ski Slopes. You want to take the City By-pass to the East, A720, to do this, drive over it and then come back round the roundabout and turn left down the slip road. Take the first exit, the A701. The streets you drive along are as follows: , Burdiehouse Road , Howden Hall Road, Liberton Gardens , Liberton Brae , Liberton Road , Lady Road Take the first left at the roundabout, and follow this road until you reach the Commonwealth Pool. The Crags pub is opposite, parking is available in the pub car park, and the bar will still be open. OTHER ROUTES Whatever other route you come to Edinburgh it is easy to meet the A720, the Edinburgh By-pass. If you don't know of an easier way, follow this until you reach the A701. The instructions after this are given above. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 30 18:25:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9UIKpQ17672 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:20:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UIKnr17661 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:20:49 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UIKlO12219 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:20:47 GMT Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA06876 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:26:24 GMT Message-Id: <200010301826.SAA06876@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:41:05 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9UIKnr17663 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON MINI TOURNAMENT Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Ten team tournament with play from 12 till 6 each day. Mixed ability tournament with emphasis on enjoyment rather than winning. Big party, cheap drinks, a bargain at only £40! http://www.soton.ac.uk/~frisbee/tourn/fixture.htm Andy Feltham 338 Burgess Road, Swaythling, Southampton, SO16 3BJ, Main Email: af199@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: ajc298@soton.ac.uk Mobile: 0794 1039847 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 24 HOUR CHARITY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT Location: Hammersmith, London - [Indoor Ultimate] For Action Aid Hoping to raise over £2000 Lots of playing time around the clock! Entry 'fee: teams to raise as close to (or more than) £200. Please contact me early for an entry slot and so that I can send you sponsorship forms. Charlie Ben-Nathan First Floor Flat, 7 Coningham Road, London, , W12 8BP Main Email: chuckaway@aol.com Home Phone: 020 8743 2231 Work Phone: 020 8741 1851 ____________________________________________________________ 04 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - BDGA GOLF - SINGLES MATCHPLAY IV Location: Ashton Court, Bristol - [Disc Golf] Qualification required! Andy Lucey Home Phone: 020 87676766 ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ 18 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2000 Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] Space for 20-24 teams Limited floor space so book early Price: £95 (cheque payable to Blue Arse Flies) http://www.bluearse.fly.to/ James 'Balti' Hewitson 8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ Main Email: James.Hewitson@zurich.com Home Phone: 01488 682943 Work Phone: 01793 506580 Mobile: 07747 844401 ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - OXFORD WOMEN'S INDOORS Location: Oxford - [Indoor Ultimate] Tara Jewell 63 Hertford Street, Oxford, , , OX4 3AL Main Email: tsjewell@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01865 726995 ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - NORTHERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Leeds University - [Indoor Ultimate] Joe Bolton 23 Wood Lane, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 2AY, Main Email: eng8jrb@leeds.ac.uk Home Phone: 0113 2302098 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: The Ark , sports recreation centre, Glasgow Caledonian University. - [Indoor Ultimate] The tournament is being held by Far Flung (University of Glasgow)on the 2nd and 3rd of December 2000. The tournament is open to all university teams within Scotland. Entry fee will be £85 per team, cheques should be made out to GUUFC and sent to Philip Webb Flat 3/3 76 Chancellor st Glasgow G11 5PW Accomodation will be provided. Further details will follow via email. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Philip Webb Flat 3/3, 76 Chancellor st, Glasgow, , G11 5PW Main Email: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk Alternative Email: 9806017L@student.gla.ac.uk Home Phone: 0141 334 6123 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTH-EASTERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate] Student Indoor regionals. Space for 16 teams. Tournament fee: £75 per team. Cheques made payable to Mohawks Ultimate. Music and merriment galore. Mads V. Jacobsen 76b Beaconsfield Rd, Brighton, , , BN1 6DD Main Email: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Alternative Email: juandimarco@hotmail.com Home Phone: (01273) 559283 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Indoor Ultimate] 20-24 Teams. Cost £95 cheques payable to Mild Mannered Janitors. Accommodation available. Arun Sharma 42 Richmond Mount, Headingley, Leeds, , LS6 1DF Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: 0113 2441266 x2259 ____________________________________________________________ 16 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON INDOORS Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS INDOORS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Oct 30 20:30:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9UKTQk10214 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:29:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UKTPr10205 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:29:25 GMT Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UKTPO19203 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:29:25 GMT Received: from host213-120-24-113.host.btclick.com ([213.120.24.113]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001030202810.DCHJ14131.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-120-24-113.host.btclick.com> for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:28:10 +0000 Received: by host213-120-24-113.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C042AF.DBE805A0@host213-120-24-113.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:27:44 -0000 Message-ID: <01C042AF.DBE805A0@host213-120-24-113.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Indoor Nationals Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:26:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9UKTPr10206 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc Due to the complete lack of interest in hosting Nationals I have booked the event for the weekend of 24 and 25 March for the National indoors. Hence I am looking to have regional events on either of the first two weekends in March. At the moment I have expressed interest for regionals from; Plymouth Edinburgh Sheffield Leeds Can those teams, and anyone else who wants to host a regional qualifier, let me know if they can still get venues, prices etc. I will probably have to make a decision over Leeds and Sheffield, based on cost facilities, and most importantly - if anyone else is hosting an event. Cheers, Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 31 10:41:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9VAc8v28185 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:38:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VAc5r28167 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:38:05 GMT Received: from mail.riverltd.co.uk (mail.riverltd.co.uk [194.193.184.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VAbxO24260 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:38:00 GMT Received: by ISLAY with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:39:39 -0000 Message-ID: <21A4DA02650FD211A32B00805FC7B5EE792BC7@ISLAY> From: Trevor Kalinowsky To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: accoms in London Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:39:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id e9VAc6r28171 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello All Quick email - London Ultimate player has a room available in my flat. Huge double room, Brixton (near to indoor and outdoor practices) 3 mins walk from tube, living with one guy and two girls, £424 per month. Give me an email on this address or call 0207 413 9377 if your interested, or would like to know more, or are just bored and feel like a chat. Trev Thanks, Trevor Kalinowsky Sales Executive, River Inflight Media 0207-413-9377 (dir) 0870-137-4833 (fax) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 31 15:12:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9VF9SW22499 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:09:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VF9Rr22489 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:09:27 GMT Received: from mimesweeper.bookham.com (mail.bookham.co.uk [195.166.17.164]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VF9PO24191 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:09:25 GMT Received: from alpha.bookham.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.bookham.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:06:40 +0000 Received: by alpha.bookham.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4K26VA93>; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:07:58 -0000 Message-ID: <86F477BCF025D411912F00508BACC30A236CFC@alpha.bookham.com> From: Jon Copeland To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: RumouR 2000 Web Site Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:07:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, For those of you that came to our little tournament and for those who should have. The Official RumouR 2000 web site has been set up you can, look at some pics, watch virtual hacky, leave a message or listen to those crazy tunes. Any how have a look and leave a message, tell us what you thought of the tourney and who you think that it might be bettered next year. We are looking to run RumouR 2001 at the same venue with some tweaks. happy surfin' see you next year Ickle Milky Beats ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 31 15:17:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9VFGmB24662 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:16:48 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VFGlr24649 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:16:47 GMT Received: from mimesweeper.bookham.com (mail.bookham.co.uk [195.166.17.164]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VFGWO25097 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:16:32 GMT Received: from alpha.bookham.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.bookham.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:13:32 +0000 Received: by alpha.bookham.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4K26VA0Q>; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:14:49 -0000 Message-ID: <86F477BCF025D411912F00508BACC30A236CFE@alpha.bookham.com> From: Jon Copeland To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: RumouR 2000 Web Site Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:14:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What, you want the URL as well!!! http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html ICKLE ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 31 18:45:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9VIgGF29907 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:42:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VIgEr29884 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:42:14 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VIgEH22007 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:42:14 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13qgMK-0008vB-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 18:42:09 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 23:31:05 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: US Nationals results MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those that are interested... Condors beat DoG 17-14 in the semi, then went on to defeat Furious George 16-15 in the (capped) Final for more info: rec.sport.disc tournament website at http://www.beach-ultimate.com/ some photos at http://www.upa.org/ Here are the QF and on results: Quarter Finals Results: Open Dog over Subzero 15-7 Furious over Sockeye 15-7 Jam over Ring 15-11 Condors over Florida 15-10 Women Schwa over Backhoe 15-12 Prime over Rare Air 15-13 Godiva over Sprawl 15-7 Fury over Homebrood 15-13 Semi Finals Results: Open Condor over DoG 17-14 Furious over Jam 17-14 Women Schwa over Prime 14-11 Godiva over Fury 17-8 Finals Open Condor over Furious George 16-15 Women Godiva over Schwa 17-12 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Oct 31 22:40:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id e9VMavg12504 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:36:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VMaur12494 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:36:56 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.36]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9VMapO00356 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:36:56 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:36:42 -0800 Received: from 213.120.62.70 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:36:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.120.62.70] From: "Lewis Glover" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Pompey Project Report Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:36:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2000 22:36:42.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A715AD0:01C0438B] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The results of the Pompey Project held on the 29th October were as follows: Experienced 1. Night Fever 2. Disc Dr's 1 3. Sublime 1 4. Skunks 1 5. Mohawks 6. UCL 7. Falcons 8. Sublime 2 Beginner 1. Sublime 3 2. Skunks 2 3. BoB 4. Disc Dr's 2 5. Sublime 4 Spirit Prize went to Sublime 2 Thanks to all who came along. See you at the next one. Lost Property!! Mentals Night Fever top Ben's ("stroke") Mohawks top. Cream and Beige fleece. Any feedback on tournament would be appreciated. Cheers, Lewis (Loopy) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 1 12:11:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA1C7rL17165 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:07:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1C7pr17149 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:07:51 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1C7VH06727 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:07:36 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id MAA26716 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:07:30 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:07:30 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:07:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Can all teams who are not planning on arriving in edinburgh until saturday morning and as such don't need accomodation until saturday night please contact me to confirm this. The 1st games will start at 9:30 on Saturday morning and 9:15 on sunday morning. To find the location of the sports hall please look on streetmap.co.uk with this url: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=329840&Y=674920&A=Y&Z=5 There is a cafeteria at the sporst centre and also a McDonalds just across the road. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 1 12:31:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA1CTwF22657 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:29:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1CTvr22648 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:29:57 GMT Received: from dove2.cf.ac.uk (dove2.cf.ac.uk [131.251.1.170]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1CToO15426 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:29:50 GMT Received: from nprdce1s.cf.ac.uk ([131.251.7.67]) by dove2.cf.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 13qx0I-0006MO-00; Wed, 01 Nov 2000 12:28:30 +0000 Received: from NPRDCE1S/SpoolDir by NPRDCE1S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 00 12:28:30 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by NPRDCE1S (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 00 12:28:25 GMT0BST From: "Stuart Austin" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, no_frills@egroups.com, ml9fph@bath.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:28:25 GMT0BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: W & SW Regional Indoors Message-ID: <3A000C68.16177.85DFF9@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eA1CTvr22652 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Wales and South West student indoor regionals will be held at Talybont Sports Hall, Cardiff. On the 2/3 December. Teams included in this region are: No Frills - Cardiff Mythago - Bristol Skunks - Southampton Picnic - Plymouth Uriel - Exeter U.W.E Bath university If each club president could send contact details to myself and ultimatefrisbee@cardiff.ac.uk as this will save clogging up distribution lists. Again like last year it will be a 16 team event, entry fee is £75 per team. First and second teams will get priority after that for third teams it will be based on whose cheques are received first. Cheques for £75 are made payable to UWC Ultimate frisbee and mailed to: Stuart Austin 2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff. CF24 4QW please send individual cheques for each team. Accomodation will be floor space for saturday night and for those who need it friday as well. The finer details will be sent to club presidents when their email addresses are received. Stu From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 1 16:07:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA1G3lF04852 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1G3jr04840 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:45 GMT Received: from msgbas1t.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1tx.cos.agilent.com [192.6.9.34]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1G3iO10632 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:44 GMT Received: from msgrel1.germany.agilent.com (msgrel1.germany.agilent.com [134.40.2.57]) by msgbas1t.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C5E1E5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:03:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from denep.germany.agilent.com (denep.germany.agilent.com [134.40.35.17]) by msgrel1.germany.agilent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C8EC1AB for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:03:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from 134.40.35.17 by denep.germany.agilent.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 01 Nov 2000 17:03:17 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Received: by denep with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:03:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: "BURDEN,CHRIS (A-Scotland,ex1)" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "BURDEN,CHRIS (A-Scotland,ex1)" Subject: Edin. Beginners - Agilent Technologies Recruitment Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 17:03:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Folks, At the Edinburgh Beginners Tournament there will be a team from Agilent Technologies. At the tournament we will have a display stand in the lobby. We are looking for graduates to recruit in the following areas: Computing and Electronic Engineers - Manufacturing Engineering Software/Hardware Development Engineers (various) - R&D Technical Marketing Engineers Procurement Engineers More details at www.agilentgraduates.co.uk Come and see our stand. FREE gifts !! Find out about a company that is willing to pay its employees to play Ultimate ! If you can not make the tournament you can still apply for a graduate position in Edinburgh, send your CV and covering letter to: graduates@agilent.com If we don't see you at the stand, or in the end-zone, we'll see you at the party !! Chris B. Agilent Ultimate Frisbee Team Coach From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 1 19:43:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA1JeNQ04383 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:40:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1JeMr04375 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:40:22 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f235.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.235]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1JeKO02010 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:40:21 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:40:09 -0800 Received: from 195.92.194.107 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:40:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.107] From: "Steven Hunter" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Bradford tournament...... Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:40:09 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2000 19:40:09.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B2BDA00:01C0443B] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This msg is for anyone who is interested in going to an indoor tourney on the 18th and 19th of november. There are few places left so it is very much first come first served. Bradford tourneys are always full of cheap food, cheap beer, great party and of course some scorching ultimate. So get your replies in soon, to steve_ninety@hotmail.com Cost is £60 per team and cheques are payable to UBU. Cheers, SHUNTER. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 1 20:56:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA1KtDM17689 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:55:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1KtCr17680 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:55:12 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f307.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.182]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA1KtAO06661 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:55:11 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:55:02 -0800 Received: from 193.113.185.132 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:55:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.113.185.132] From: "Tara Jewell" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Oxford women's tournament Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:55:02 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2000 20:55:02.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[01347B30:01C04446] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oxford women's tournament. November 25/26th. Space for up to 12 teams. Some accommodation available, please let me know if required. Cost 75 pounds to: Tara Jewell 63 Hertford Street Oxford OX4 3AL 01865 726995 Cheers, Tara _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 03:58:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA23uWZ19279 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:56:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA23uVr19273 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:56:31 GMT Received: from imo-r04.mail.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA23uUH03524 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:56:30 GMT Received: from WICKCHZ@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id 8.e1.bc08a92 (7556) for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:56:17 -0500 (EST) From: WICKCHZ@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:56:16 EST Subject: oliver watson query To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 124 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk anybody know ollie watson? if so, please forward this email to him, and/or ask him to send an email to Chad Hershman at HershmanC@aol.com. Last I knew, Ollie was in Brighton about 1991. Thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 09:52:57 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA29nka26857 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:49:47 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA29njr26851 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:49:45 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA29njH24879 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:49:45 GMT Received: from snailsden.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 13rH09-0006l6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:49:41 +0000 Received: from SNAILSDEN/SpoolDir by snailsden.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 2 Nov 00 09:49:42 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SNAILSDEN (Mercury 1.48); 2 Nov 00 09:49:35 +0000 Received: from Bob (143.167.212.22) by snailsden.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 2 Nov 00 09:49:24 +0000 From: "Jesper" To: "Britdisc" Subject: US Nationals Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:51:05 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, US nationals roundup if anyone is interested Jes > >Good morning everyone, > >Throwing in my two cents about UPA Nationals.. > >Quarterfinals >----- >Sub-Zero vs. Boston - Sub-Zero had a disappointing Thursday, going 1-2 >(losing to Florida and JAM). This dropped them down to the lower division >where they won two re-seeded pool games on Friday to gain entry to the >8-12/9-10 play-in game for the quarterfinals. Their opponent there was >C-BASS (DC Area) who they beat pretty solidly (7-5 half, 15-5 >game?). Boston had won their pool, then won their re-seeded pool. Boston >walked in this game, finishing significantly (45+ minutes) earlier than >any other quarterfinal (thus I did not see any of this game). > >Florida vs. SB Condors - I believe Condors ended up on the same side as >Boston by losing to Furious in re-seeded pool play. Florida got to the >quarters by beating Sockeye 15-14 or 16-15 after being down 14-10 in >the re-seeded pools. Condors 15-10. Florida was really pumped up playing >in front of a medium sized (but very energetic) home crowd. Condors worked >the disc side to side with small passes and overhead swings. Florida >played zone continuously, and flooded near the disc to try to force >turns. When Condors broke past the crowd, they scored. When they didn't, >Florida did. > >Furious George vs. Sockeye - Sockeye was forced to defend their place in >the quarters against Bomb Squad (NY) which had come up through the lower >re-seeded pools. That game was close for about a half. Furious won their >pool on Thursday, won their pool on Friday (beating Condors). Furious by a >whole bunch in this game. > >JAM vs. Ring - This game was *tight*. Observers requested, a fair number >of stoppages, many calls, some huge athletic plays on both sides. Ring >made more spectacular plays, but JAM possessed better and scored more. JAM >15-11. > >Semis >----- >Furious vs. JAM - Last year, JAM choked in the quarters, blowing a big >lead (4+ points) near the end of the game to Sub-Zero. This year JAM >choked in the semis, losing a big lead (3+ points) near the end of the >game (13-10 to 15) to Furious George. 17-14 final. Lackluster game, >esp. in comparison to the other semi. Many, many calls, many long >discussions, observers, looong time between points and with >time-outs. Furious George was down 1-2 breaks the whole game, then rushed >back to win. Evidently they started getting blocks (they had been playing >good D the whole time but no results) near the end of the game. 17-14 >Vancouver. > >Condors vs. Boston - Huge, huge matchup. Placed on the main field, big >crowd. Very exciting. Boston seemed to fall behind 1-2 breaks and stay >there most of the game. Great plays on both side. Good disc motion, >undercuts setting up deep shots. > >Most breaks seemed to go to SB. One example: DoG turnover turns into a >quick Condors break, with 1 cutter open deep pursued by two DoG >players. Huck goes up, but it's a bad throw, low, maybe three feet off the >ground, headed between the two Boston players. A DoG player (John >Bar?) layed out, almost blindly, to his right, and got a hand on the disc, >blocking it, but the MAC popped hard away and right, away from the other >DoG defender to the Condors cutter slightly downfield. Condors score. > >My recollection is of many many travel calls. Boston made mistakes, and it >cost them. SB Condors played better, but I'm not sure they won many >friends or influenced anyone. In one situation in particular, the Condors >scored on a quick sequence up the field, beating DoG up the field. James >Studarus started celebrating in scored-in end-zone, then ran down the >field, jumping between two DoG players who were talking about a foot from >each other (I think one of them was Eric's brother) and sprinting down to >stand in front of Fortunat Mueller who was still at his own brick mark, to >celebrate, screaming in Fortunat's face. Not appropriate. No place in the >game. Empty and classless. Fortunat, admirably, did nothing. Of course, >with the magic of video, that sequence may soon be available for your (and >James') viewing pleasure for a loooong time to come... > >Furious vs. Condors - Game was ok. Kindof flat. Furious fell behind >Condors early, then clawed back to tie around 9, then fell back >again. There were some heated calls and appeals to observers. Most >observer decisions seemed to go SB's way. Furious made uncharacteristic >mistakes, and a number of them. Big drops on basic come-back cuts and the >like. Mike Grant was *huge*. A force on offense and defense. Maybe >Furious's best player, period. > >Condors should have won easily, but got tight near the end. Furious tied >the game at 16. Santa Barbara threw a bad pass on the last point, a high, >arcing forhand huck going upwind. The disc went right over the Vancouver >player's head, but he appeared to lose it in the sun and stumble. Condors >17-16, UPA Open National Champions. > >Women's Final >----- >Dull dull dull. Godiva walked. Big deal. Turnover fest. Dull, slow, a >number of calls, loooong time-outs, not interesting. > >Notables >----- >-Billy Rodriguez had his obscene winning streak (8? championships, 70+ >games) at Nationals snapped. >-The curse of Tune-Up continues (DoG won this year) > >Gotta go work now... > >Akira > >----- ----- >Akira Yamaguchi ABN*AMRO >Inc. >2539 W. Altgeld St. #3 ISI Systems >Group >Chicago, IL 60647-1941 101 N. Wacker Dr. Suite >#1850 >a-yamaguchi-7@alumni.uchicago.edu Chicago, IL >60606-1718 > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 12:18:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA2CFQY14260 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:15:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2CFOr14247 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:15:24 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2CFFO01668 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:15:19 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:01:00 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:00:16 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'HershmanC@aol.com'" Cc: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: ollie watson query Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 11:00:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I've put this out on Britdisc - Hopefully one of the London Shotgun / Hombres / Bullfrogs crowd should know. Chris -----Original Message----- From: HershmanC@aol.com [mailto:HershmanC@aol.com] Sent: 02 November 2000 04:12 To: chughes@chelt.ac.uk; andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk Subject: ollie watson query either of you know a guy named ollie watson? last i knew, he was in brighton in about 1991. if you know him, and can contact him, please have him email Chad Hershman at HershmanC@aol.com. Thanks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 13:11:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA2D8kv02210 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:08:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2D8jr02200 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:08:45 GMT Received: from server-37.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eA2D8cO07078 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:08:44 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 13092 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2000 12:57:43 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-37.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 2 Nov 2000 12:57:43 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:08:31 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B0104B6F1@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'HUGHES, Chris'" , "'HershmanC@aol.com'" Cc: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: ollie watson query Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:08:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've already sent Ollie's email address to Chad Hershman, so if you were going to - don't worry. RE US Nationals mail from Jesper: Trust good old Liability (Mikey Grant) to get his name in lights. And compared to the fights and intimidation in US tournies it makes our little spats seem like no more than handbags at 5 paces! l8rs all, rt -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] Sent: 02 November 2000 11:00 To: 'HershmanC@aol.com' Cc: BritDisc (E-mail) Subject: RE: ollie watson query Hi, I've put this out on Britdisc - Hopefully one of the London Shotgun / Hombres / Bullfrogs crowd should know. Chris -----Original Message----- From: HershmanC@aol.com [mailto:HershmanC@aol.com] Sent: 02 November 2000 04:12 To: chughes@chelt.ac.uk; andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk Subject: ollie watson query either of you know a guy named ollie watson? last i knew, he was in brighton in about 1991. if you know him, and can contact him, please have him email Chad Hershman at HershmanC@aol.com. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 13:15:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA2DEo303959 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:14:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2DElr03947 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:14:47 GMT Received: from mrelay-b.lmu.ac.uk (mrelay-b.lmu.ac.uk [160.9.128.17]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2DElO07797 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:14:47 GMT Received: from [160.9.35.1] (helo=lis-exchange1.lmu.ac.uk) by mrelay-b.lmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 13rKHE-0002uc-00; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:19:32 +0000 Received: by lis-exchange1-private.lmu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:23:28 -0000 Message-ID: <352D4968F6DAD31181AA0090279C3DDC01659841@lis-exchange3-private.lmu.ac.uk> From: "Mitchell, Ben [LBS]" To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'arun sharma'" Subject: RE: Leeds Indoor Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:18:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eA2DEmr03951 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Please can all the teams that have expressed interest or are considering sending a team or teams to Leeds Indoors (2/3 December) please confirm their entry by Wednesday 8th November. There is a possibility that this tournament may be cancelled due to lack of numbers. Please do this by contacting Arun Sharma on email: Arun_S@hway.co.uk (Arun is away until Sunday). Thanks Ben Mitchell Chevron AF > -----Original Message----- > From: Arun Sharma [SMTP:Arun_S@hway.co.uk] > Sent: 16 October 2000 13:00 > To: 'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: Leeds Indoor > > LEEDS INDOOR TOURNAMENT > > Dec 2nd/3rd at Leeds Grammar School (same place as Tour 4) > Cost > £95 Spaces for up to 24 teams > Accommodation is available on first come first serve basis > > Send Cheques to: > > 42 Richmond Mount > Headingley > Leeds > LS6 1DF > > Make payable to 'Mild Mannered Janitors' > > Arun Sharma > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 14:28:24 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA2EQME27591 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:26:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2EQLr27580 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:26:21 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law-f56.hotmail.com [209.185.131.119]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2EQFH10255 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:26:15 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 06:26:06 -0800 Received: from 208.249.92.139 by lw1fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Nov 2000 14:26:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.249.92.139] Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com From: "Helen Myers" To: ECD97JS@sheffield.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: US Nationals Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:26:06 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2000 14:26:06.0501 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6478550:01C044D8] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The women's final was a little dull but, in the early stages my team (we ended up 15th!!) - the Hucksters, had a great game against Fury - the defending champions ... we lost narrowly 15-12 and gave a good fight all the way to the end ... we were winning at one stage of the game (after the first point!) ... we may not have won the tournament but, we were there ... a lot of teams never even made it ... 15th in the US isn't so bad really. Anyone want to come over to Florida and play in a tournament the first weekend of January ... Hammerage and Jedi Children expressed an interest early on ... still coming? Lots of love from across the pond, Helen PS : Met Katey at Regionals and Fee at Nationals (not playing - ha ha !!) That was cool ... come visit any time ... From: "Jesper" To: "Britdisc" Subject: US Nationals Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:51:05 -0000 Britdisc, US nationals roundup if anyone is interested Jes > >Good morning everyone, > >Throwing in my two cents about UPA Nationals.. > >Quarterfinals >----- >Sub-Zero vs. Boston - Sub-Zero had a disappointing Thursday, going 1-2 >(losing to Florida and JAM). This dropped them down to the lower division >where they won two re-seeded pool games on Friday to gain entry to the >8-12/9-10 play-in game for the quarterfinals. Their opponent there was >C-BASS (DC Area) who they beat pretty solidly (7-5 half, 15-5 >game?). Boston had won their pool, then won their re-seeded pool. Boston >walked in this game, finishing significantly (45+ minutes) earlier than >any other quarterfinal (thus I did not see any of this game). > >Florida vs. SB Condors - I believe Condors ended up on the same side as >Boston by losing to Furious in re-seeded pool play. Florida got to the >quarters by beating Sockeye 15-14 or 16-15 after being down 14-10 in >the re-seeded pools. Condors 15-10. Florida was really pumped up playing >in front of a medium sized (but very energetic) home crowd. Condors worked >the disc side to side with small passes and overhead swings. Florida >played zone continuously, and flooded near the disc to try to force >turns. When Condors broke past the crowd, they scored. When they didn't, >Florida did. > >Furious George vs. Sockeye - Sockeye was forced to defend their place in >the quarters against Bomb Squad (NY) which had come up through the lower >re-seeded pools. That game was close for about a half. Furious won their >pool on Thursday, won their pool on Friday (beating Condors). Furious by a >whole bunch in this game. > >JAM vs. Ring - This game was *tight*. Observers requested, a fair number >of stoppages, many calls, some huge athletic plays on both sides. Ring >made more spectacular plays, but JAM possessed better and scored more. JAM >15-11. > >Semis >----- >Furious vs. JAM - Last year, JAM choked in the quarters, blowing a big >lead (4+ points) near the end of the game to Sub-Zero. This year JAM >choked in the semis, losing a big lead (3+ points) near the end of the >game (13-10 to 15) to Furious George. 17-14 final. Lackluster game, >esp. in comparison to the other semi. Many, many calls, many long >discussions, observers, looong time between points and with >time-outs. Furious George was down 1-2 breaks the whole game, then rushed >back to win. Evidently they started getting blocks (they had been playing >good D the whole time but no results) near the end of the game. 17-14 >Vancouver. > >Condors vs. Boston - Huge, huge matchup. Placed on the main field, big >crowd. Very exciting. Boston seemed to fall behind 1-2 breaks and stay >there most of the game. Great plays on both side. Good disc motion, >undercuts setting up deep shots. > >Most breaks seemed to go to SB. One example: DoG turnover turns into a >quick Condors break, with 1 cutter open deep pursued by two DoG >players. Huck goes up, but it's a bad throw, low, maybe three feet off the >ground, headed between the two Boston players. A DoG player (John >Bar?) layed out, almost blindly, to his right, and got a hand on the disc, >blocking it, but the MAC popped hard away and right, away from the other >DoG defender to the Condors cutter slightly downfield. Condors score. > >My recollection is of many many travel calls. Boston made mistakes, and it >cost them. SB Condors played better, but I'm not sure they won many >friends or influenced anyone. In one situation in particular, the Condors >scored on a quick sequence up the field, beating DoG up the field. James >Studarus started celebrating in scored-in end-zone, then ran down the >field, jumping between two DoG players who were talking about a foot from >each other (I think one of them was Eric's brother) and sprinting down to >stand in front of Fortunat Mueller who was still at his own brick mark, to >celebrate, screaming in Fortunat's face. Not appropriate. No place in the >game. Empty and classless. Fortunat, admirably, did nothing. Of course, >with the magic of video, that sequence may soon be available for your (and >James') viewing pleasure for a loooong time to come... > >Furious vs. Condors - Game was ok. Kindof flat. Furious fell behind >Condors early, then clawed back to tie around 9, then fell back >again. There were some heated calls and appeals to observers. Most >observer decisions seemed to go SB's way. Furious made uncharacteristic >mistakes, and a number of them. Big drops on basic come-back cuts and the >like. Mike Grant was *huge*. A force on offense and defense. Maybe >Furious's best player, period. > >Condors should have won easily, but got tight near the end. Furious tied >the game at 16. Santa Barbara threw a bad pass on the last point, a high, >arcing forhand huck going upwind. The disc went right over the Vancouver >player's head, but he appeared to lose it in the sun and stumble. Condors >17-16, UPA Open National Champions. > >Women's Final >----- >Dull dull dull. Godiva walked. Big deal. Turnover fest. Dull, slow, a >number of calls, loooong time-outs, not interesting. > >Notables >----- >-Billy Rodriguez had his obscene winning streak (8? championships, 70+ >games) at Nationals snapped. >-The curse of Tune-Up continues (DoG won this year) > >Gotta go work now... > >Akira > >----- ----- >Akira Yamaguchi ABN*AMRO >Inc. >2539 W. Altgeld St. #3 ISI Systems >Group >Chicago, IL 60647-1941 101 N. Wacker Dr. Suite >#1850 >a-yamaguchi-7@alumni.uchicago.edu Chicago, IL >60606-1718 > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 2 16:08:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA2G6VE12361 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:06:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2G6Rr12311 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 16:06:27 GMT Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA2FXBH23047 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:33:25 GMT Received: from [195.157.34.122] (th-gt149-122.pool.dircon.co.uk [195.157.34.122] (may be forged)) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17352 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:32:49 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 15:31:07 +0000 Subject: Re: ollie watson query From: Ollie Watson To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all those who have helped Chad catch up with me again! (hint: no I don't need the mail forwarded again... and yes bizarrely enough I am still on BritDisc) Ollie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 3 16:40:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA3GaWo18226 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:36:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA3GaT218211 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:36:29 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA3GaTb12115 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:36:29 GMT Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:36:03 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Rimini Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 16:35:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can everyone who played for Poughkeepsie at Rimini please get in touch with me. Thanks DT From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 5 17:31:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA5HS0S01334 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:28:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA5HRw201326 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:27:58 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA5HRvb06259 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:27:58 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id RAA15586 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:27:55 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:27:55 GMT Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 17:27:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman Reply-To: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Spaces Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, Due to two teams dropping out at late notice we have a couple of spaces. Can some one from Far Flung, Jedi, Straange Blue and Sooting Stars, Superfly and Yorki Bar Kids please email me ASAP to discus these last two places. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 5 20:03:41 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA5K1Nw21939 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:01:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA5K1M221934 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:01:22 GMT Received: from fep09-svc.tin.it (mta09-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA5K0mb11082 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 20:00:48 GMT Received: from ultilinks.com ([213.45.32.123]) by fep09-svc.tin.it (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001105200042.YQLD26301.fep09-svc.tin.it@ultilinks.com>; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:00:42 +0100 Message-ID: <3A063A4F.964A76BC@ultilinks.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:57:51 -0800 From: Peldi Reply-To: peldi@ultilinks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc , "itadisc@egroups.com" , frisbeefrance@club.voila.fr Subject: [Ultilinks] Survey Results and more Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk FYI, new stuff on Ultilinks: http://www.ultilinks.com/ * Results of the 1st Ultilinks Ultimate Survey: http://www.ultilinks.com/survey/ * A new pic of the month (by Markus Lust, taken at Worlds), in the "Party" section. * A new interview (with Zach Hochstadt, about COED and charity), in the "Read" section. * An improved list of upcoming tournaments, in the "Play" section. Peace, Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 6 12:22:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA6CI7F14563 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:18:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA6CI4214546 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:18:04 GMT Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA6CHvb09070 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:18:03 GMT Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4FP3MMSD>; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:10:44 -0000 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Leeds indoors Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:10:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C047EA.9168EA90" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C047EA.9168EA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For all those who saw last weeks message re Leeds indoors - The tournament will be going ahead - thanks to all who confirmed their entry. There are spaces left for any other teams interested in coming. Thanks Arun Arun Sharma Staff Engineer Highway Insurance Sturge Court 120 Wellington Street Leeds LS1 4LT Tel (0113) 2441266 Fax (0113) 2428226 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C047EA.9168EA90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leeds indoors

For all those who saw last weeks = message re Leeds indoors - The tournament will be going ahead - thanks = to all who confirmed their entry.

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Thanks

Arun

Arun Sharma
Staff Engineer
Highway Insurance
Sturge Court
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Leeds
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C047EA.9168EA90-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 7 13:18:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA7DEOY17338 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:14:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA7DEN217332 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:14:23 GMT Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA7DEMb02914 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:14:23 GMT Received: from Chuckaway@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.32.) id 8.f8.457fe04 (15889) for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from web27.aolmail.aol.com (web27.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.3]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v76_r1.20) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:14:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:14:14 EST From: Chuckaway@aol.com Subject: 24 hour tournament report and stuff To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: Unknown Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eA7DEN217333 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Well done to all those who attended and managed to raise over £3600 for ActionAid development projects in Tanzania. The teams finished as follows, 12th Whoosh 11th UCL2 10th S.whoosh 9th Mohawks (Spoon winners) 8th Whiplash 7th Discdoctors 6th Hot Snatch (UCL1) 5th Scrapping the Barrel (Plate winners) 4th Night Fever 3rd One Night Stand 2nd Standard Pleasure Unit 1st OW! Spirit was won by Whoosh, though every team deserved it, and the most money was raised by One Night Stand with £720 odd. A couple of other things.... When you have finished collecting the money that you've raised (or before) can you send me a cheque made out to 'ActionAid' to Charlie Ben-Nathan Latymer Upper School King Street London W6 9LR Also there was one swipe card missing at the end, could this also please be posted back to me ASAP before I get sacked. Cheers, Charlie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 7 18:46:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA7IhbI03075 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:43:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA7IhZ203056 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:43:35 GMT Received: from scooby.lineone.net (doggy.lineone.net [194.75.152.224]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA7IhYb10926 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:43:34 GMT Received: from lineone.net (scooby-s1 [194.75.152.224]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA26587 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:43:21 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:43:21 GMT From: hsp298@lineone.net Message-Id: <200011071843.SAA26587@scooby.lineone.net> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Sothampton Christmas Tournament Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Only 7 weeks till Christmas and 8 weeks to go until we see out the Y2K so why not celebrate in style. Come and join us for the annual indoor Southampton Christmas tournament and start those New Years resolutions early. We have spaces for 20 teams so there is no excuse. Date: Sat 16th & Sun 17th December Venue: Southampton University Price:£80 per team, cheques made out to: 'S.U Frisbee' Deadline for entries is December 1st If interested please send cheques to: S Pennington 9 Nelmes Road Hornchurch Essex RM11 3JA Any queries?: e-mail hsp298@lineone.net or jsj198@soton.ac.uk If you require accomodation ie floor space please let me know numbers ASAP. Look forward to seeing you there Sally (Skunks) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 8 01:03:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA810mL15620 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:00:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA810k215611 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:00:47 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA810kb24984 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:00:46 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13tJbV-000707-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:00:43 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:34:27 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: No Newport Indoors this year MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With apologies, the Newport Centre is fully booked until after the outdoor season has started. Therefore, there'll probably be no Newport Indoors in 2001 Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 9 12:24:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA9CC2n22505 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:12:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA9CBs222453 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:54 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA9CBqb16413 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:53 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id MAA04318 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:48 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:47 GMT Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:11:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, The captains meeting will be held at the pub at midnight tommorow, for teams arriving on Saturday morning I'll run through everything you need to know then. For all of those comming up this weekend here are a couple of emergency phone numbers to use. You can ring me at home tommorow day on (0131) 2288337 if you have any problems. Or if you're going to be late in the evening please ring 0780 1234001 Again please only ring if you're having big problems. See you tommorow, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 9 12:29:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eA9CNWV27405 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:23:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA9CNK227349 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:23:21 GMT Received: from server.mycity.it (root@[195.36.12.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA9CN4b17691 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:23:05 GMT Received: from nricw011 ([213.198.141.3]) by server.mycity.it (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA17696; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:44:06 +0100 Message-ID: <00bd01c04a46$ac338e80$150c10ac@nricw011> From: "Paul Bernier" To: "Stefano Falciani" , "mi/Franco Figari" , "mi/Cristiano1" , "luc bidaine" , "gra" , "France disc" , "fb/Kevin Reardon" , "fb/Gavin Williams/C.v.Elsa" , "Fabio Frullini" , "d.beswick" , "Brit disc" , "Quintin" Subject: Fw: READ THE FOLLOWING SIX STATEMENTS ... Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:13:49 +0100 Organization: Neri S.p.A. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > 1. The sport of choice for the urban poor is BASKETBALL. > 2. The sport of choice for maintenance level employees is BOWLING. > 3. The sport of choice for front-line workers is FOOTBALL. > 4. The sport of choice for supervisors is BASEBALL. > 5. The sport of choice for middle management is TENNIS. > 6. The sport of choice for corporate officers is GOLF. > > AMAZING CONCLUSION: > The higher you are in the corporate structure, the smaller your balls > become > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 10 14:51:20 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAAEkRW02741 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:46:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAEkQ202732 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:46:26 GMT Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAEkOb09393 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:46:25 GMT Received: from pcedcd.dph.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.48.164] helo=aber.ac.uk) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13uFRO-0004ID-00; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:46:07 +0000 Message-ID: <3A0C09E7.55683BCE@aber.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:44:55 +0000 From: Dinesh Narayan Organization: The Integrated Sensors Research Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Student Ultimate , Britdisc Subject: Is ultimate a BUSA event? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Can someone tell me if student ultimate is recognized by BUSA? I think it is but I need to make sure before I ask our university's Athletic Union to help with tournament entry fees for student tournaments like the regional student indoor qualifiers (Loughborough for example). One condition for their help is that these tournaments are BUSA recognized Thanks for you help, cheers! Den (Mwnci See, Aberystwyth University Ultimate) -- Mwnci See, Aberystwyth Ultimate Frisbee See our website!!! >>> www.mwncisee.co.uk To subscribe to the club emailing list >>> send email to minidomo@mwncisee.co.uk, with no subject, and the body of the message saying subscribe mwncisee To unsubscribe to the club emailing list >>> send email to minidomo@mwncisee.co.uk, with no subject, and the body of the message saying unsubscribe mwncisee From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 10 17:27:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAAHP5927103 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:25:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAHOx227077 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:24:59 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAHOsb03257 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:24:54 GMT Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:24:53 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'thefreakshow@egroups.com'" , "'jack.Goolden@windsor.co.uk'" , "'Wall, Alexander P'" , "'sally.riggs@ac.com'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'james3murphy@another.com'" , "'UNDERTHEINFLUENCE@EGROUPS.COM'" , "'Cahill,Maria'" Subject: London training session Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:24:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Indoor training session Drills, skills, fitness and some games Thursday evenings from 8-10. Location Queen Mother Sports Centre(223 Vauxhall Bridge road,london, SW1).near Victoria Station. Open to all but we may restrict numbers if it gets too busy. Let me know by Tuesday if you are interested Dave From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 10 21:01:22 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAAKxII15365 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:59:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAKxG215354 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:59:16 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAAKxFo26346 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:59:16 GMT Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA17361 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:03:20 GMT Message-Id: <200011102103.VAA17361@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:19:57 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eAAKxH215359 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 11 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 8TH EDINBURGH BEGINNERS TOURNAMENT Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Players of less than 3 months experience - Cost: 90GBP payable EUUFC Paul Eastman Flat 1f2, 44 Warrender Park Road, Marchmont, Edinburgh, EH9 1HH Main Email: pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 2288337 ____________________________________________________________ 18 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - 3RD ANNUALISH BRADFORD TOURNEY Location: Bradford University Sports Centre - [Indoor Ultimate] Indoor tourney for any team wanting a fun competition with a great party and great spirit. SHUNTER 40 Eden crescent,, Burley,, Leeds, , West Yorks., LS4 2TW Main Email: steve_ninety@hotmail.com Home Phone: 0113 2753145 Mobile: 07944 785012 ____________________________________________________________ 18 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - EGO WANG FEST 2000 Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] Space for 20-24 teams Limited floor space so book early Price: £95 (cheque payable to Blue Arse Flies) http://www.bluearse.fly.to/ James 'Balti' Hewitson 8 Middletons Close, Eddington, Hungerford, Berkshire, RG17 0HQ Main Email: James.Hewitson@zurich.com Home Phone: 01488 682943 Work Phone: 01793 506580 Mobile: 07747 844401 ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - OXFORD WOMEN'S INDOORS Location: Oxford - [Indoor Ultimate] Tara Jewell 63 Hertford Street, Oxford, , , OX4 3AL Main Email: tsjewell@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01865 726995 ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - NORTHERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Leeds University - [Indoor Ultimate] Joe Bolton 23 Wood Lane, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 2AY, Main Email: eng8jrb@leeds.ac.uk Home Phone: 0113 2302098 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - W & SW STUDENT REGIONALS Location: Talybont, Cardiff - [Indoor Ultimate] Wales and South West Student Indoor Regionals Stuart Austin 2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff, , CF2 4QW Main Email: AustinSR@cardiff.ac.uk Home Phone: 029 20256285 Mobile: 07979 837347 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: The Ark , sports recreation centre, Glasgow Caledonian University. - [Indoor Ultimate] The tournament is being held by Far Flung (University of Glasgow)on the 2nd and 3rd of December 2000. The tournament is open to all university teams within Scotland. Entry fee will be £85 per team, cheques should be made out to GUUFC and sent to Philip Webb Flat 3/3 76 Chancellor st Glasgow G11 5PW Accomodation will be provided. Further details will follow via email. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Philip Webb Flat 3/3, 76 Chancellor st, Glasgow, , G11 5PW Main Email: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk Alternative Email: 9806017L@student.gla.ac.uk Home Phone: 0141 334 6123 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTH-EASTERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate] Student Indoor regionals. Space for 16 teams. Tournament fee: £75 per team. Cheques made payable to Mohawks Ultimate. Music and merriment galore. Mads V. Jacobsen 76b Beaconsfield Rd, Brighton, , , BN1 6DD Main Email: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Alternative Email: juandimarco@hotmail.com Home Phone: (01273) 559283 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Indoor Ultimate] 20-24 Teams. Cost £95 cheques payable to Mild Mannered Janitors. Accommodation available. Arun Sharma 42 Richmond Mount, Headingley, Leeds, , LS6 1DF Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: 0113 2441266 x2259 ____________________________________________________________ 09 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT REGIONALS Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate] http://www.purplyhaze.co.uk Luke Smith 3 Blithfield Avenue, Loughborough, Leicestershire, , LE11 4SY Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk Alternative Email: I.R.Thackrah-99@student.lboro.ac.uk Home Phone: 01509 267529 Mobile: 07867 502596 ____________________________________________________________ 16 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON INDOORS Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS INDOORS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 11 12:22:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eABCJiZ02709 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:19:44 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eABCJh202704 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:19:43 GMT Received: from snowstorm.mail.pipex.net (snowstorm.mail.pipex.net [158.43.192.97]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eABCJco24522 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:19:38 GMT Received: (qmail 29674 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2000 12:19:37 -0000 Received: from useraf93.uk.uudial.com (HELO ?62.188.132.80?) (62.188.132.80) by smtp-6.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2000 12:19:37 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:19:35 +0000 Subject: britdisc test - please ignore From: john purdie To: britdisc Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 11 20:23:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eABKKki20505 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:20:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eABKKj220500 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:20:45 GMT Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net (monsoon.mail.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eABKKjb10918 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:20:45 GMT Received: (qmail 28822 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2000 20:20:39 -0000 Received: from usercb73.uk.uudial.com (HELO ?62.188.150.240?) (62.188.150.240) by smtp-1.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2000 20:20:39 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:20:38 +0000 Subject: porron 2000 - pics up now! 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 13 11:37:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eADBWjt19239 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:32:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADBWi219232 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:32:44 GMT Received: from mimesweeper.guinness.com ([194.74.40.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADBWTo00203 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:32:34 GMT Received: from parhub03.pr.guinness (unverified) by mimesweeper.guinness.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:28:08 +0000 Received: by parhub03.pr.guinness with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:22:18 -0000 Message-Id: <5161973F4E87D211A7B00008C7A4DD00049CD452@parmsg01.pr.guinness> From: "Bowles, Guy" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Cc: "'adam harras'" , "'Under The Influence'" Subject: Under the Influence Retirement Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:29:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Under The Influence (UTI) Retire After much deliberation and after reaching consensus amongst the team, UTI have decided to retire with immediate effect. Originally formed as an indoor team in 1995, UTI re-joined in 1997 to enjoy considerable domestic success outdoors. UTI have always comprised of a geographical spread of players who have travelled far & wide to practice & play. But increasingly, these travel demands & personal commitments have made practising more difficult & as such we feel unable to improve (or even sustain) our high standard of play as a team. Unwilling to compromise the quality of our Ultimate, we've decided to call it a day & "go out at the top". The team would like to thank all those who played for UTI over the years & contributed to the unforgettable experience. UTI would also like to thank all those teams we've played, & especially those against whom we've had some epic contests: most notably Shotgun, Chevvy, Dough, & of course, Catch 22. It's been an honour & a pleasure, guys. As individual players, you'll still see us around, we may even be on the same pitch, but for once, UTEEs may be on opposing teams. See you soon & thanks again, UTI. 1997: British Open Champions 1998: Tour 1 Winners; Tour 3 Winners; Tour 4 Winners; Tour 5 Winners; Overall Tour Winners; 1999: Tour 2 Winners; Tour 3 Winners; Tour 5 Winners; Overall Tour Winners; British Open Winners; National Champions 2000: Tour 2 Winners; Tour 3 Winners; National Champions. ********************************************************************** This e-mail and any attachment contains information which is private and confidential and is intended for the addressee only. If you are not an addressee, you are not authorised to read, copy or use the e-mail or any attachment. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and then destroy it. ********************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 13 11:56:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eADBscN26990 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:54:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADBsZ226976 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:54:35 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADBsU208690 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:54:35 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13vIBw-0005on-0U; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:54:29 +0000 Subject: Worlds photos finally online Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:59:50 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" , "EuroDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all A selection of my photos from Worlds in Heilbronn are finally up on the web. When I say "selection", there's over 200 of them (Sebastian - the other official photographer - and I took about 700 shots each during the week). They're well organised by game, so you should be able to find what you're looking for. The site also features a slideshow of the best twenty or so, in case you're not really looking for anything in particular. If anyone wants reprints of any of these pictures, details are on the site. The URL is: http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/photos/ Thanks. Hope you enjoy it. Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 13 15:05:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eADF2Oh00409 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:02:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADF2M200396 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:02:22 GMT Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADF2K212740 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:02:20 GMT Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:53:42 -0000 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Leeds Indoors. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:04:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C04D81.71A8D3A0" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04D81.71A8D3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sine the last mail sent regarding the Leeds Indoors tournament, I am = pleased to say that there has been a good response and the event will happen (2nd/3rd December). =20 The problem now we have is that I have received interest from more than = 20 teams. Therefore the first 20 cheques that I receive will grant entry = for that team. Contact saying you're coming is not good enough anymore. = Sorry to hassle everyone but it gone from one extreme to the other. The following teams have paid and are in. MMJ More MMJ Even More MMJ Jedi 1, 2 & 3 Oddjob Bradford Export Mexican Horse Bandits Chevron Action Flash West Yorkshire All Stars Bears 1& 2 Send cheques to: 42 Richmond Mount Headingley Leeds LS6 1DF Payable to - MILD MANNERED JANITORS for =A395 Arun Sharma Staff Engineer Highway Insurance Sturge Court 120 Wellington Street Leeds LS1 4LT Tel (0113) 2441266 Fax (0113) 2428226 This email, together with any attachment(s), is for the exclusive=20 and confidential information of the addressee(s). Any other = distribution, use or reproduction without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised=20 and strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please=20 notify the sender immediately and delete the message without making = any copies.=20 Any views or opinions expressed are the author's and do not necessarily = represent those of Highway Insurance. You should not rely on the = content=20 of this message unless satisfied it is from an authorised source.=20 Highway Insurance reserves the right to monitor all email = communications.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04D81.71A8D3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leeds Indoors.

Sine the last mail sent regarding the = Leeds Indoors tournament, I am pleased to say that there has been a = good response and the event will happen (2nd/3rd December).  =

The problem now we have is that I have = received interest from more than 20 teams.  Therefore the first 20 = cheques that I receive will grant entry for that team.  Contact = saying you're coming is not good enough anymore.  Sorry to hassle = everyone but it gone from one extreme to the other.

The following teams have paid and are = in.

MMJ
More MMJ
Even More MMJ
Jedi 1, 2 & 3
Oddjob
Bradford Export
Mexican Horse Bandits
Chevron Action Flash
West Yorkshire All Stars
Bears 1& 2

Send cheques to:

42 Richmond Mount
Headingley
Leeds
LS6 1DF

Payable to - MILD MANNERED JANITORS = for =A395

Arun Sharma
Staff Engineer
Highway Insurance
Sturge Court
120 Wellington Street
Leeds
LS1 4LT
Tel  (0113) 2441266
Fax (0113) 2428226



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 and confidential information = of the addressee(s).  Any other distribution, use or reproduction = without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised

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 notify the sender = immediately and delete the message without making any copies. =
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 14 12:22:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAECGtv09026 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:16:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAECGq209000 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:16:52 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eAECGo215662 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:16:51 GMT Received: from cs701078.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.136.18] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13vf0s-0002oo-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:16:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:16:44 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmuj5@central.susx.ac.uk (james houghton) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (britdisc) Subject: Looking For Richard Hims In-Reply-To: ; from "mmuj5" at Tue Nov 14 12:16:44 2000 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmuj5@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to use Britdisc for this, but can Richard Hims from Jedi contact me. Thanks a lot James, Mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 14 16:10:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAEG8D425910 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:08:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAEG7u225852 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:07:57 GMT Received: from mtach2.zurich.com (chmail2.zurich.com [195.28.226.82]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAEG7to20244; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:07:55 GMT Subject: Ego Wang Fest 2000 - The Full Info To: andrew.tucker@warwick.ac.uk, Arun_S@hway.co.uk, a_brocklehurst@hotmail.com, BAF_Ultimate@egroups.com, ben@ravilious.net, booth@atm.ox.ac.uk, B.Mitchell@lmu.ac.uk, David.Trovell@omduk.com, djn94@aber.ac.uk, D.Grayson@psych.york.ac.uk, John.Garrett@otis.com, lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, martin@suht.swest.nhs.uk, mta99@bigfoot.com, PaulM@dmt.co.uk, richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk, richard.clegg@company-net.com, samanir@hotmail.com, sibarry@hotmail.com, simon.norris@virgin.net Cc: adamkeen@yahoo.com, BAF_Ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 15 December 1999 Message-ID: From: "James Hewitson" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:05:46 +0000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CHKNH021/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 14.11.2000 17:04:00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eAEG7v225853 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, This should hopefully be the final load of information for Ego Wang Fest 2000 (Apologies to those on BD who are not involved or those getting this e-mail more than once) TOURNAMENT INFO Captains Meeting: 9.00am @ Rec Centre (see below for directions) First Game: 9.20am The following teams (the Top 8 seeds) do not play their first game until 10.45 at the earliest - a secondary captains meeting will be held for them at 10.30 at the Rec Centre: - Baboom - BAF - Chevron - Hammerage - Mexican Horse Bandits - Mr Men - Shrub - UTT All other teams play before 10.45 and so will be expected to be at the 1st captains meeting. Games will not be rearranged so do not be late or you will forfeit the game. ACCOMODATION - Friday (See Below For B&B List) - 8*Red + 4*Fusion = Vere's - 10*Sneeekys = Luke's - 9*Mwnci See = Hughes' ACCOMODATION - Saturday (See Below For B&B List) - 9*Muppets + 2*Fusion = Vere's - 10*Sneeekys + 2* Fusion = Luke's - 9*Mwnci See = Hughes' - 7*Superfly TNT = Vere's Friends #1 - 8*Red = Vere's Friends #2 - 6*Mr Men = B&B's or we might be able to squeeze you in individually at different places DIRECTIONS >From Cheltenham Racecourse: - As you come into Cheltenham at the first roundabout (with the racecourse on it) take the last exit (Swindon Lane) down a small road. - Take the second turning on the left, Tommy Taylor's Lane. - Keep going until you reach the Rec Centre on your left Directions from M5 South: - Turn off the motorway at Junction 11, it will be marked as Regency Cheltenham. Head for the centre of town. - Once on the dual carriageway you want the left lane as you come to the first r'bout (with G.C.H.Q on it) go straight over. - Keep going until the next roundabout; go left, NOT TO TOWN CENTRE. - You will reach Coronation Square, pass the Red Lion pub on right and take the second exit. It is a square roundabout - you'll see what I mean. - Go down this road, mind the speed cameras, till you get to the MacDonald's roundabout. Go straight over. ** Keep going till you see mini roundabout take right lane and go right, the Cheltenham Bowling Alley is over the roundabout. - Go over a narrow bridge and down road. At the mini roundabout bear left. - Go past the Folly sportsfields (on your left) - Straight over the next mini r'bout (first exit) - Past Hardwick Campus - Under the railway bridge - Left into Folly Lane - Rec Centre is about 200 yards down on your right hand side Directions M5 North: - Come off at Junction 10. - Turn left onto road, keep going straight through two junctions, with traffic lights, keep going until you get to Macdonald's roundabout - Turn left and follow instructions from ** above. To Get to Hardwick Campus From the Rec Centre: - Come out of the Rec Centre, turn left - Go right to the end of the road, a T junction, turn right into St Paul's Road. - Under the railway bridge - Almost immediately after this turn right into Hardwick Campus B&B LIST - CHELTENHAM Bentons Guest House 71 Bath Rd Cheltenham 01242 517417 Bibury House Priory Place Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL52 6HG 01242 525014 £22> Brennan Guest House 21 St Lukes Rd Cheltenham 01242 525904 Cambray Guest House 10 Cambray Pl Cheltenham 01242 527239 Crossways Guest House Oriel Place, 57 Bath Road, Cheltenham GL53 7LH 01242 527683 £11.50-£70 Fromefield Guest House 127 St George's Road, Cheltenham GL50 3EQ £18-£40 Glencree 80 Lansdown Road Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL51 6QW 01242 260242 £17> Hamilton House 65 Bath Road, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL53 7LH 01242 527772 £20-£65 Ivydene Guest House 145 Hewlett Road Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL52 01242 521726 £22.50 Kingsmuir Guest House Kingsmuir Pittville Circus Cheltenham 01242 245397 Lawn Hotel 5 Pittville Lawn, Cheltenham GL52 2BE £18-£40 Leeswood 14 Montpellier Drive, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1TX 01242 524813 £18-£44 Lonsdale House Montpellier Drive, Cheltenham GL50 1TX 01242 232379 £20-£76 Moorend Park Hotel 11 Moorend Park Road Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 0LA 01242 224441 £26> Number 91 91 Montpellier Terrace Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL50 1XA 01242 579441 £25> Orion Guest House 220 London Road, Cheltenham GL52 6HW £19-£51 Parkview 4 Pittville Crescent, Cheltenham GL52 2QZ 01242 575567 £18-£44 Segrave 7 Park Place, Cheltenham GL50 2QS 01242 523606 £15-£35 St Cloud 97 Leckhampton Road, Cheltenham GL53 0BZ 01242 575245 £20-£44 Strayleaves 282 Gloucester Road, Cheltenham GL51 7AG 01242 572303 £20-£45 St James Hotel Ambrose Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 3LH 01242 522860 £15-£45 St Michaels 4 Montpellier Drive Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL50 1TX 01242 513587 £20> Steyne Cross Malvern Road Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL50 2NU 01242 255289 £20 Westcourt 14 Old Bath Road Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 7QD 01242 241777 £27.50> If you have any problems or questions get in touch See you all Saturday Balti BAF 34 Home: 01488 682943 Mobile: 07747 844401 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 15 14:05:52 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAFDplH18890 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFDpk218881 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:46 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFDpjo18443 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:45 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA09212 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:44 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:43 GMT Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Report Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last weekend Edinburgh was again proud to host the it's 9th Annual Beginners tournament. We hope that all those who played had a great time and we are again confident that it has been one of the best ultimate weekends in the calender. We again had no problems filling the 32 team spaces avaliable for the largest annual indoor tournament in Britain. The results, in reverse order, follow: 32 Northen Lights 2 (Winning the Hankey of Humilliation) 31 Reservoir Fish 30 Shooting Stars 1 29 Jesters 28 El Nino 27 Far Flung 2 26 Purple Haze 2 25 Hulltimate 1 (Winning the Garden Trowl) 24 Random Fling 23 Yorkie Bar Kids 22 Jedi 1 21 Shooting Stars 2 20 Northern Lights 1 19 Far FLung 1 18 Flatball Project 17 Hulltimate 2 (Winning the Plate) 16 Jedi 3 15 Agilent 14 SWAC 13 Falling Skies 12 Stirling 11 Strange Blue 10 Phat 'Eds 2 9 Phat 'Eds 1 (Winning the Quality St Collection) 8 Jedi 2 7 Purple Haze 1 6 Mange Le Foufou 5 Ro-Sham-Bo 1 4 3 Diablo Allstars & Boogie Knights 2 Mohawks 1 Ro-Sham-Bo 2 (Winning the Tankard of Triumph) Many of the matches through out the weekend were very close and many pools had teams tied for position after all the games were completed. The Final between Mohawks and locals Ro-Sham-Bo 2 was very closley faught with RSB taking a large lead at the start only to be brought back to a single point, from there on in it was any one game. A couple of quick points at the death secured a home win in front of a largly partisan crowd. The all important spirit prize went to the Boogie Knights, a great achievement in their first tournament. The party this year was held in the Teviot student union, so no problems with space as last year, and was MASSIVE. Alot of nudity, including a little full frontal(and I do mean little), followed and judgeing by some of the sorry faces on Sunday a huge amout of beer was drunk. The party prize went to the Boogie Knights. Three pint challange scores: Open: DJ & Dave(Phat 'Eds) 16.54 seconds Womans: Elaine & Heide(Shooting Stars) 24.43 Co-Ed: Me & Alia(Flatball) a sorry 40 seconds The sharking prize was hotly contested this year, however it had to be given to Sam from Random Fling, for as he put it, trying to shark everyone at a Tequela party, every one in the chippy, everyone on the walk to the venue, everyone at the venue and everyone onthe way home. We never really found out if he had any luck. The final prize was for the coaches hat which this year went to the Phat' Eds Alien. I hope you all had a great weekend and are already looking forward to next years event, which we are going to book in the next week. Lots of forewarning. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 15 14:48:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAFEYRW00977 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:34:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFEYP200967 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:34:25 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eAFEY6o21917 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:34:10 GMT Received: from cs732205.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.122.31] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 13w3dJ-0002WJ-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:33:53 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:34:02 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmu32@central.susx.ac.uk (Nicole Roberts) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (britdisc) Subject: lolking for bears and ybk players X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmu32@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to use the list for this, but could Mel from yorkie bar kids, and Amy and Sarah from bears contact me reguarding whether they want to play for the mohawks at the womens tournament in oxford in a couple of weeks. Also, if the two girls from whoosh are interested in coming could they let me know too cheers Nicole mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 15 19:18:19 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAFJF8Q25654 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:15:08 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFJF7225648 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:15:07 GMT Received: from usryws02.merck.com (wily.merck.com [155.91.6.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eAFJF6225422 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:15:06 GMT Received: from 155.91.2.103 by usryws02.merck.com with SMTP (WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:13:26 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: f2a5c32c-a38f-11d4-9435-00508be31830 Received: from 155.91.2.100 by usryws02.merck.com with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:33:26 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: f2a5c32c-a38f-11d4-9435-00508be31830 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.30]) by mgw1.merck.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #36699) with ESMTP id <01JWKE0OHWGK01376F@mgw1.merck.com> for neil_wilkie@merck.com; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:34:21 EDT Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFDtD208364; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:55:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk ( 8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAFDplH18890 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFDpk218881 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFDpjo18443 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51: 45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA09212 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost by canna; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:51:43 +0000 (GMT) From: "Paul Eastman" Subject: Edinburgh Beginners Tournament Report To: "britdisc" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 160C3FDC9628-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last weekend Edinburgh was again proud to host the it's 9th Annual Beginners tournament. We hope that all those who played had a great time and we are again confident that it has been one of the best ultimate weekends in the calender. We again had no problems filling the 32 team spaces avaliable for the largest annual indoor tournament in Britain. The results, in reverse order, follow: 32 Northen Lights 2 (Winning the Hankey of Humilliation) 31 Reservoir Fish 30 Shooting Stars 1 29 Jesters 28 El Nino 27 Far Flung 2 26 Purple Haze 2 25 Hulltimate 1 (Winning the Garden Trowl) 24 Random Fling 23 Yorkie Bar Kids 22 Jedi 1 21 Shooting Stars 2 20 Northern Lights 1 19 Far FLung 1 18 Flatball Project 17 Hulltimate 2 (Winning the Plate) 16 Jedi 3 15 Agilent 14 SWAC 13 Falling Skies 12 Stirling 11 Strange Blue 10 Phat 'Eds 2 9 Phat 'Eds 1 (Winning the Quality St Collection) 8 Jedi 2 7 Purple Haze 1 6 Mange Le Foufou 5 Ro-Sham-Bo 1 4 3 Diablo Allstars & Boogie Knights 2 Mohawks 1 Ro-Sham-Bo 2 (Winning the Tankard of Triumph) Many of the matches through out the weekend were very close and many pools had teams tied for position after all the games were completed. The Final between Mohawks and locals Ro-Sham-Bo 2 was very closley faught with RSB taking a large lead at the start only to be brought back to a single point, from there on in it was any one game. A couple of quick points at the death secured a home win in front of a largly partisan crowd. The all important spirit prize went to the Boogie Knights, a great achievement in their first tournament. The party this year was held in the Teviot student union, so no problems with space as last year, and was MASSIVE. Alot of nudity, including a little full frontal(and I do mean little), followed and judgeing by some of the sorry faces on Sunday a huge amout of beer was drunk. The party prize went to the Boogie Knights. Three pint challange scores: Open: DJ & Dave(Phat 'Eds) 16.54 seconds Womans: Elaine & Heide(Shooting Stars) 24.43 Co-Ed: Me & Alia(Flatball) a sorry 40 seconds The sharking prize was hotly contested this year, however it had to be given to Sam from Random Fling, for as he put it, trying to shark everyone at a Tequela party, every one in the chippy, everyone on the walk to the venue, everyone at the venue and everyone onthe way home. We never really found out if he had any luck. The final prize was for the coaches hat which this year went to the Phat' Eds Alien. I hope you all had a great weekend and are already looking forward to next years event, which we are going to book in the next week. Lots of forewarning. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 17 18:33:06 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAHITnM25311 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:29:49 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHITk225292 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:29:47 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f144.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.144]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHITk208416 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:29:46 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:29:35 -0800 Received: from 62.7.10.2 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:29:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.7.10.2] From: "Tara Jewell" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: women's indoor tournament - Oxford Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:29:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2000 18:29:35.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[564A5CE0:01C050C4] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oxford Women's Indoor Tournament - 25/26th November. There is one space left for next weekend - please contact me by Wednesday if you would like to enter. The following teams are registered: Skunks Mythago/Bath Janet Hawes Ow! Mohawks/Squaws Cardiff Angels Wow! Phat'Eds Bears Horrors Ro-Sham-Bo If you don't have a team but would still like to play, please email/phone me. Similarly, if you have registered and would like to pick-up a few extra players please also let me know. Directions/schedule will be sent out next week. Cheers, Tara (01865) 726995 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Nov 17 23:32:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAHNTYX16505 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:29:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHNTX216495 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:29:33 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f68.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.68]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHNTTo16105 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:29:29 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:29:23 -0800 Received: from 212.67.97.80 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:29:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.67.97.80] From: "dave linsenmeyer" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:29:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2000 23:29:23.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[379C90E0:01C050EE] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I was wondering if anyone knew of any teams in the London area that are currently selling discs. Thanks. Dave Linsenmeyer _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Nov 18 11:12:34 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAIBALM08826 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAIBAK208821 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:20 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAIBAJo10235 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:20 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20197 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:19 GMT Received: from B14E-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14e-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.181]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eAIBAIJ28677 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:18 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Indoors update Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to keep you up-to-date, we appear to have reached our entry limit. Teams entered: Skunks x3 Druids Mr Men Venom (bears old boys?) BAFx2 Nolan's Team (name to be confirmed) Shrub Mythago Yo Mama UTT Poughkeepsie Headrush Simpsoms Block Stack etc... Strange Blue Johnny Fake's team (name to be confirmed) Lewis' team (name to be confirmed) Please if your name is down and you are no longer able to make it could you let me know ASAP so other teams can enter. Times and directions to be sent out nearer the time. Those teams who have not yet paid (this is not many), could we get the cheques by the 1st December. Looking forward to seeing you all there. Any prob let me know on hsp289@lineone.net Sally (Skunks) ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Nov 19 14:17:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAJEDDU09473 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:13:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAJEDC209465 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:13:12 GMT Received: from web1904.mail.yahoo.com (web1904.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.53]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eAJEDB214157 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:13:11 GMT Received: (qmail 18717 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Nov 2000 14:13:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20001119141304.18716.qmail@web1904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.44.144.82] by web1904.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:13:04 GMT Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:13:04 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Gillam?= Subject: D BOB looking for Duncan To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sorry if this doesn't concern you but I am looking for Duncan who played with us during the indoor nationals last year. If you get this can you E-mail or phone me you have my number John ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 08:26:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAK8OdM27420 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAK8Oc227414 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:38 GMT Received: from mtach2.zurich.com (chmail2.zurich.com [195.28.226.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAK8Oc220206 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:38 GMT Subject: Ego Wang Results To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: BAF_Ultimate@egroups.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 15 December 1999 Message-ID: From: "James Hewitson" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:23:03 +0000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CHKNH021/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 20.11.2000 09:20:38 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Results From Ego Wang Fest : 24 - Hereford Hoofers 23 - Red 22 - Angels 2 21 - Sneeekys 20 - Bears 2 19 - Superfly 18 - Mwnci See 17 - EyeCheeWahWah - SPOON WINNERS 16 - Mean Bean Machine 15 - Bears 1 14 - BAF Too 13 - Mr Men 12 - Whiplash 11 - Angels 1 10 - Total Muppets 9 - Hammerage - PLATE WINNERS 8 - Baboom 7- Mild Mannered Janitors 6 - Mexican Horse Bandits 5 - Shrub 4 - Blue Arse Flies 3 - UTT 2 - Chevron - "NOT QUITE SO ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS 1 - Fusion - "ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS Spirit Of The Game - Hereford Hoofers Thanks to everyone who came and played and especially to those who helped with the scoring. Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 10:28:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKAOuW00761 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKAOp200740 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:52 GMT Received: from pax.panews.press.net (pax.panews.press.net [144.178.104.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKAOk209916 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:47 GMT Received: from BLAKE ([144.178.117.171]) by pax.panews.press.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id W5H9561F; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00d001c052db$b2536860$ab75b290@panews.press.net> From: "Neil Hornsey" To: Subject: North London Indoor Practice Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:21:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please note that we are holding weekly practices in North London. These = are open to anyone, so please feel free to join us if you're in the = area.=20 Thursdays, 9.30 - 10.30pm. Sobell Sports Center, junction of Tollington Rd & Hornsey Rd, N7. Nearest tube Holloway Road, 5 mins walk. =A34.50 Brought to you by the Exxxotica Playthings. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 11:40:59 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKBcP600365 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKBcO200355 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:24 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKBcNo18199 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:23 GMT Received: from steve ([62.253.84.36]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001120113821.QWDM277.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@steve> for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c052e6$7708e040$2454fd3e@steve> Reply-To: "shipley" From: "shipley" To: References: Subject: Lost cap at Cheltenham Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:22:02 -0000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone pick up a black (although now grey/brown) China ying and yang cap in Cheltenham. Reward offered. Thanks Steve Shipley ----- Original Message ----- From: James Hewitson To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: Ego Wang Results > Results From Ego Wang Fest : > > 24 - Hereford Hoofers > 23 - Red > 22 - Angels 2 > 21 - Sneeekys > 20 - Bears 2 > 19 - Superfly > 18 - Mwnci See > 17 - EyeCheeWahWah - SPOON WINNERS > 16 - Mean Bean Machine > 15 - Bears 1 > 14 - BAF Too > 13 - Mr Men > 12 - Whiplash > 11 - Angels 1 > 10 - Total Muppets > 9 - Hammerage - PLATE WINNERS > 8 - Baboom > 7- Mild Mannered Janitors > 6 - Mexican Horse Bandits > 5 - Shrub > 4 - Blue Arse Flies > 3 - UTT > 2 - Chevron - "NOT QUITE SO ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS > 1 - Fusion - "ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS > > Spirit Of The Game - Hereford Hoofers > > Thanks to everyone who came and played and especially to those who helped > with the scoring. > > Balti > BAF 34 > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 13:25:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKDNe512400 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:23:40 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKDNc212384 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:23:38 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKDNbo02468 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:23:38 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:24:21 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:19:31 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: Lost Phone at Cheltenham Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:19:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone lost a mobile phone on Sunday afternoon at Cheltenham could they please contact me either here or at home (01452 380529) I have a suspicion that it may belong to one of the Angels (possibly even a Matt Shearings?) having looked at the address book. If anyone knows matt, especially if he was at the tournament, can you get him to contact me. Chris PS Before anyone suggests that I phone people to find out the owner - it's out of credits. ___________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes Lecturer in Biomechanics School of Sport Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education Hardwick Campus St Paul's Road Cheltenham GL50 4BS 01242 543299 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 13:34:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKDXqc15394 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:33:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKDXp215387 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:33:51 GMT Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKDXI212669 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:33:51 GMT Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:25:37 -0000 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Leeds Indoors Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:25:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C052F5.5C80A2A0" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C052F5.5C80A2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The Leeds tournament is now full, any cheques received now will be returned be held till the tournament. If there are no withdrawals then the cheques will be returned. The teams that have entered are: TEAM ACCOMMODATION MMJ - n/a More MMJ - n/a Mexican Horse Bandits - Dale/Arun Bears 1 - Dale/Arun Bears 2 - Dale/Arun West York's All Stars - n/a Jedi - n/a Jedi 2 - n/a Jedi 3 - n/a Slipdisc - Jonnyboy (0113) 2759336 Mean Bean Machine - Claire (0113) 2759037 Phat-eds 1 - Sara (0113) 3683741 Too Phat Oddjob - n/a Fusion Bradford Export Disciples Chevron Hulltimate Yo-Mama Accommodation is organised for various team above. If you need accommodation let me know asap. Teams who have been allocated accommodation please call contact and confirm you're approx arrival time. Directions/meeting place and start times will be advised soon. Any probs let me know. Arun Sharma Tel H (0113) 2749097 M (07712) 583578 This email, together with any attachment(s), is for the exclusive and confidential information of the addressee(s). Any other distribution, use or reproduction without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message without making any copies. Any views or opinions expressed are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of Highway Insurance. You should not rely on the content of this message unless satisfied it is from an authorised source. Highway Insurance reserves the right to monitor all email communications. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C052F5.5C80A2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leeds Indoors

The Leeds tournament is now full, any = cheques received now will be returned be held till the = tournament.  If there are no withdrawals then the cheques will be = returned.  The teams that have entered are:

TEAM    =         =         =         ACCOMMODATION
MMJ     =         =         =         -  n/a
More = MMJ        =         =         -  n/a
Mexican Horse Bandits   =         -  Dale/Arun
Bears 1 =         =         =         -  Dale/Arun
Bears 2 =         =         =         -  Dale/Arun
West York's All Stars   =         -  n/a
Jedi    =         =         =         -  n/a
Jedi 2  =         =         =         -  n/a
Jedi 3  =         =         =         -  n/a
Slipdisc        =         =         =         -  Jonnyboy  =    (0113) 2759336
Mean Bean = Machine       =         -  Claire =       (0113) 2759037
Phat-eds = 1      =         =         -  Sara =         =         (0113) 3683741  =         =           
Too Phat  =       =           
Oddjob  =         =         =         -  n/a
Fusion
Bradford Export
Disciples
Chevron
Hulltimate
Yo-Mama

Accommodation is organised for various = team above.  If you need accommodation let me know asap.  = Teams who have been allocated accommodation please call contact and = confirm you're approx arrival time.

Directions/meeting place and start = times will be advised soon.

Any probs let me know.

Arun Sharma
Tel  H  (0113) 2749097 =
      M = (07712) 583578



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C052F5.5C80A2A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 20 17:01:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKGvNV08228 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:57:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKGvK208203 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:57:21 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f245.hotmail.com [216.32.181.245]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKGvIo27075 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:57:19 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:57:08 -0800 Received: from 194.200.241.2 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:57:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.200.241.2] From: "Adam Milner" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Accommodation in London Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:57:08 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2000 16:57:08.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB28A4C0:01C05312] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a room for rent from January till the end of March in London for a Mild Mannered Chevron player? Cheers Adam _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 21 09:28:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAL9PaN25093 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:25:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAL9PZ225087 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:25:35 GMT Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAL9PY219330 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:25:34 GMT Received: from enterprise.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.165.252]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13y9h4-0007IY-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:26:26 +0000 Received: from MMU-SCI-ENTERPRISE/SpoolDir by enterprise.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 21 Nov 00 09:25:32 gmt Received: from SpoolDir by MMU-SCI-ENTERPRISE (Mercury 1.48); 21 Nov 00 09:25:26 gmt From: "Lawrence PAULSON" Organization: Manchester Metropolitan University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:25:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Daily Digest Reminder X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, This is a reminder that you can avoid getting your inbox clogged up by having Britdisc delivered in one easy-to-swallow Daily Digest. To s*bscribe send an email to: britdisc-daily-s*bscribe@egroups.com (NB swap the * for a 'u' - this is to stop britdisc's automated mail system thinking this email is a s*bscription request) You'll then receive a confirmation email, and (once confirmed) an introductory mail with more details, followed by the new digest once a day. I would appreciate it if team captains / chairpeople could pass this message onto the various team email lists that abound, as I think this service may appeal to some people who currently are not s*bscribed to Britdisc. Please note this service does not replace Britdisc, and people cannot post directly to the daily version (all postings still have to go through Britdisc itself). A summary of these instructions can be found on the WWW at http://dive.to/strangeways Any queries, feel free to drop me a line, Love & Luck, Lozza (Night) Fever Ultimate Britdisc-Daily's Mr Moderate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 21 10:26:08 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eALAObl13964 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:24:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALAOZg13950 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:24:35 GMT Received: from wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net (wpk-smtp-relay2.cwci.net [195.44.63.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALAO1t00355 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:24:01 GMT Received: from smtpmail.ic24.net ([195.44.63.19]) by wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:21:16 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:20:58 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:20:27 +0000 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk ([137.205.192.30]) by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:46:57 +0000 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKATA210621; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:29:10 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKAOuW00761 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKAOp200740 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:52 GMT Received: from pax.panews.press.net (pax.panews.press.net [144.178.104.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKAOk209916 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:47 GMT Received: from BLAKE ([144.178.117.171]) by pax.panews.press.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id W5H9561F; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00d001c052db$b2536860$ab75b290@panews.press.net> From: "Neil Hornsey" To: Subject: North London Indoor Practice Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:21:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please note that we are holding weekly practices in North London. These = are open to anyone, so please feel free to join us if you're in the = area.=20 Thursdays, 9.30 - 10.30pm. Sobell Sports Center, junction of Tollington Rd & Hornsey Rd, N7. Nearest tube Holloway Road, 5 mins walk. =A34.50 Brought to you by the Exxxotica Playthings. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please note that we are holding = weekly=20 practices in North London. These are open to anyone, so please feel free = to join=20 us if you're in the area.
 
Thursdays, 9.30 - 10.30pm.
Sobell Sports Center, junction of = Tollington Rd=20 & Hornsey Rd, N7.
Nearest tube Holloway Road, 5 mins=20 walk.
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------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 21 13:13:35 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eALDAx315942 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:10:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALDAvN15927 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:10:57 GMT Received: from wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net (wpk-smtp-relay2.cwci.net [195.44.63.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALDAuA10247 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:10:56 GMT Received: from smtpmail.ic24.net ([195.44.63.19]) by wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:10:23 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:24:47 +0000 Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk ([137.205.192.31]) by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:18:52 +0000 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAIBD3o10306; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:13:03 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAIBALM08826 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAIBAK208821 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:20 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAIBAJo10235 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:20 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20197 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:19 GMT Received: from B14E-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14e-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.181]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eAIBAIJ28677 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:18 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Indoors update Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:10:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to keep you up-to-date, we appear to have reached our entry limit. Teams entered: Skunks x3 Druids Mr Men Venom (bears old boys?) BAFx2 Nolan's Team (name to be confirmed) Shrub Mythago Yo Mama UTT Poughkeepsie Headrush Simpsoms Block Stack etc... Strange Blue Johnny Fake's team (name to be confirmed) Lewis' team (name to be confirmed) Please if your name is down and you are no longer able to make it could you let me know ASAP so other teams can enter. Times and directions to be sent out nearer the time. Those teams who have not yet paid (this is not many), could we get the cheques by the 1st December. Looking forward to seeing you all there. Any prob let me know on hsp289@lineone.net Sally (Skunks) ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 21 22:10:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eALM7ga17893 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:07:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALM7fo17882 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:07:41 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALM7Lo05163 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:07:21 GMT Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23094 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:09:40 GMT Message-Id: <200011212209.WAA23094@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:28:10 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eALM7fo17883 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - OXFORD WOMEN'S INDOORS Location: Oxford - [Indoor Ultimate] Tara Jewell 63 Hertford Street, Oxford, , , OX4 3AL Main Email: tsjewell@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01865 726995 ____________________________________________________________ 25 NOVEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - NORTHERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Leeds University - [Indoor Ultimate] Joe Bolton 23 Wood Lane, Headingley, Leeds, LS6 2AY, Main Email: eng8jrb@leeds.ac.uk Home Phone: 0113 2302098 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - W & SW STUDENT REGIONALS Location: Talybont, Cardiff - [Indoor Ultimate] Wales and South West Student Indoor Regionals Stuart Austin 2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff, , CF2 4QW Main Email: AustinSR@cardiff.ac.uk Home Phone: 029 20256285 Mobile: 07979 837347 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: The Ark , sports recreation centre, Glasgow Caledonian University. - [Indoor Ultimate] The tournament is being held by Far Flung (University of Glasgow)on the 2nd and 3rd of December 2000. The tournament is open to all university teams within Scotland. Entry fee will be £85 per team, cheques should be made out to GUUFC and sent to Philip Webb Flat 3/3 76 Chancellor st Glasgow G11 5PW Accomodation will be provided. Further details will follow via email. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Philip Webb Flat 3/3, 76 Chancellor st, Glasgow, , G11 5PW Main Email: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk Alternative Email: 9806017L@student.gla.ac.uk Home Phone: 0141 334 6123 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTH-EASTERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate] Student Indoor regionals. Space for 16 teams. Tournament fee: £75 per team. Cheques made payable to Mohawks Ultimate. Music and merriment galore. Mads V. Jacobsen 76b Beaconsfield Rd, Brighton, , , BN1 6DD Main Email: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Alternative Email: juandimarco@hotmail.com Home Phone: (01273) 559283 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Indoor Ultimate] 20-24 Teams. Cost £95 cheques payable to Mild Mannered Janitors. Accommodation available. Arun Sharma 42 Richmond Mount, Headingley, Leeds, , LS6 1DF Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: 0113 2441266 x2259 ____________________________________________________________ 09 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT REGIONALS Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate] http://www.purplyhaze.co.uk Luke Smith 3 Blithfield Avenue, Loughborough, Leicestershire, , LE11 4SY Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk Alternative Email: I.R.Thackrah-99@student.lboro.ac.uk Home Phone: 01509 267529 Mobile: 07867 502596 ____________________________________________________________ 16 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON INDOORS Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - NATIONAL JUNIOR INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Grantham Meres Leisure Centre / Grantham College - [Indoor Ultimate] Paul Unwin (Stig) Grantham College, Stonebridge Road, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk Alternative Email: woolpack5dave@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01476 577993 Work Phone: 01476 400200 x317 Fax: 01476 400291 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS INDOORS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 21 23:05:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eALN3FT05988 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:03:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALN3Do05975 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:03:13 GMT Received: from wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net (wpk-smtp-relay2.cwci.net [195.44.63.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALN3Co00136 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:03:13 GMT Received: from smtpmail.ic24.net ([195.44.63.18]) by wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:02:08 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:39:15 +0000 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk ([137.205.192.30]) by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:28:53 +0000 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKATp210693; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:29:51 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKAOuW00761 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKAOp200740 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:52 GMT Received: from pax.panews.press.net (pax.panews.press.net [144.178.104.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKAOk209916 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:47 GMT Received: from BLAKE ([144.178.117.171]) by pax.panews.press.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id W5H9561F; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:24:23 -0000 Message-ID: <00d001c052db$b2536860$ab75b290@panews.press.net> From: "Neil Hornsey" To: Subject: North London Indoor Practice Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:21:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please note that we are holding weekly practices in North London. These = are open to anyone, so please feel free to join us if you're in the = area.=20 Thursdays, 9.30 - 10.30pm. Sobell Sports Center, junction of Tollington Rd & Hornsey Rd, N7. Nearest tube Holloway Road, 5 mins walk. =A34.50 Brought to you by the Exxxotica Playthings. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please note that we are holding = weekly=20 practices in North London. These are open to anyone, so please feel free = to join=20 us if you're in the area.
 
Thursdays, 9.30 - 10.30pm.
Sobell Sports Center, junction of = Tollington Rd=20 & Hornsey Rd, N7.
Nearest tube Holloway Road, 5 mins=20 walk.
=A34.50
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01C052DB.AF9AB100-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 21 23:14:14 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eALNDPu09044 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:13:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALNDOo09035 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:13:24 GMT Received: from wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net (wpk-smtp-relay2.cwci.net [195.44.63.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eALNBBe03290 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:11:11 GMT Received: from smtpmail.ic24.net ([195.44.63.18]) by wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:10:41 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:41:01 +0000 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk ([137.205.192.30]) by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:14:08 +0000 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKBgE224870; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:42:16 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAKBcP600365 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKBcO200355 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:24 GMT Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAKBcNo18199 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:23 GMT Received: from steve ([62.253.84.36]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001120113821.QWDM277.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@steve> for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c052e6$7708e040$2454fd3e@steve> Reply-To: "shipley" From: "shipley" To: References: Subject: Lost cap at Cheltenham Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:22:02 -0000 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone pick up a black (although now grey/brown) China ying and yang cap in Cheltenham. Reward offered. Thanks Steve Shipley ----- Original Message ----- From: James Hewitson To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:23 AM Subject: Ego Wang Results > Results From Ego Wang Fest : > > 24 - Hereford Hoofers > 23 - Red > 22 - Angels 2 > 21 - Sneeekys > 20 - Bears 2 > 19 - Superfly > 18 - Mwnci See > 17 - EyeCheeWahWah - SPOON WINNERS > 16 - Mean Bean Machine > 15 - Bears 1 > 14 - BAF Too > 13 - Mr Men > 12 - Whiplash > 11 - Angels 1 > 10 - Total Muppets > 9 - Hammerage - PLATE WINNERS > 8 - Baboom > 7- Mild Mannered Janitors > 6 - Mexican Horse Bandits > 5 - Shrub > 4 - Blue Arse Flies > 3 - UTT > 2 - Chevron - "NOT QUITE SO ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS > 1 - Fusion - "ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS > > Spirit Of The Game - Hereford Hoofers > > Thanks to everyone who came and played and especially to those who helped > with the scoring. > > Balti > BAF 34 > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 22 02:17:23 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAM2DqR10588 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:13:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAM2Dpo10581 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:13:51 GMT Received: from wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net (wpk-smtp-relay2.cwci.net [195.44.63.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAM2Doe10290 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:13:50 GMT Received: from smtpmail.ic24.net ([195.44.63.18]) by wpk-smtp-relay.cwci.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:09:19 +0000 Received: from mail pickup service by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:28:31 +0000 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk ([137.205.192.30]) by smtpmail.ic24.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:45:30 +0000 Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAK8Qu220412; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:26:56 GMT Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAK8OdM27420 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAK8Oc227414 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:38 GMT Received: from mtach2.zurich.com (chmail2.zurich.com [195.28.226.82]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAK8Oc220206 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:24:38 GMT Subject: Ego Wang Results To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: BAF_Ultimate@egroups.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2b (Intl) 15 December 1999 Message-ID: From: "James Hewitson" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:23:03 +0000 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CHKNH021/Zurich-Internet(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 20.11.2000 09:20:38 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Results From Ego Wang Fest : 24 - Hereford Hoofers 23 - Red 22 - Angels 2 21 - Sneeekys 20 - Bears 2 19 - Superfly 18 - Mwnci See 17 - EyeCheeWahWah - SPOON WINNERS 16 - Mean Bean Machine 15 - Bears 1 14 - BAF Too 13 - Mr Men 12 - Whiplash 11 - Angels 1 10 - Total Muppets 9 - Hammerage - PLATE WINNERS 8 - Baboom 7- Mild Mannered Janitors 6 - Mexican Horse Bandits 5 - Shrub 4 - Blue Arse Flies 3 - UTT 2 - Chevron - "NOT QUITE SO ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS 1 - Fusion - "ENORMOUS VASE" WINNERS Spirit Of The Game - Hereford Hoofers Thanks to everyone who came and played and especially to those who helped with the scoring. Balti BAF 34 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 22 16:08:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAMG5Cb25751 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:05:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAMG5AM25731 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:05:10 GMT Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAMG4uE02901 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:05:01 GMT Received: from [62.253.68.169] by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001122160247.ZDDQ11294.mta5-svc.virgin.net@[62.253.68.169]> for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:02:47 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:02:46 +0000 Subject: Indoor Practice In North London - Thursdays From: rob trup To: Britdisc Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3057753766_307103_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3057753766_307103_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Friendly, good standard practice takes place at Sobell sports centre Every Thursday 9:30 to 10:30pm - (loads of time to get home from work, watc= h eastenders ....) At the Sobell Sports Centre Tollington Road/hornsey Road N7 =A34.50 or =A33.00 unwaged (all money goes to hall hire) All welcome - if you want to know more please visit our web: rob.trup@virgin.net tel: 020 8906 9777 --MS_Mac_OE_3057753766_307103_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Indoor Practice In North London - Thursdays Friendly, good standard practice takes place at Sobell sports centre

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tel: 020 8906 9777 --MS_Mac_OE_3057753766_307103_MIME_Part-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 23 10:56:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eANAmsL06444 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:48:54 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eANAmfM06385 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:48:42 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:50:14 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: hannah.easter@philips.com Subject: Womens Tournament Directions and info... Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: hannah.easter@philips.com Subject: Womens Tournament Directions and info... Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:02:44 +0100 Oxford Women Tournament Venue ? Headington School, London Rd, Oxford >From the A420 London Rd, turn right @ the traffic lights next to the White >Horse Pub onto Headley Way B4495. Headington School is the first turn on >your left. Follow the path around to your left and park in front of the >school. >From the car park, head towards the swimming pool. (past the tennis courts >I think). The sports hall is situated to the right of the pool. CAPTAINS MEETING ? 8.45am GAMES START ? 9am The swimming pool will be avaliable during the tournament, so bring your cozzy's (swim suits)?. Friday Night Arrivals We will be in the Angel & Greyhound pub from 9pm on-wards. This is located on St Clements ? on the right hand side of the road if you are coming from Headington. If you can't find it, get lost or going to be late - call Hannah or Tara on 07711 521282. Party Venue Saturday night party will be @ the Chicago Rock, FREE before 10pm THERE IS A DRESS CODE!!! No trainers/ No Sports tops? [Attachments deleted to prevent the posting being too long for britdisc] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 23 18:13:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eANI9wF08844 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:09:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eANI9uw08823 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:09:57 GMT Received: from tweli.aber.ac.uk (tweli.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eANI9u913314 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:09:56 GMT Received: from iswspub129.psv.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.13.97] helo=ISWSPUB129) by tweli.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13z0of-0005Mw-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:09:49 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001123180949.00a11ab8@pophost.aber.ac.uk> X-Sender: pjl8@pophost.aber.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:09:49 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: PHILIP JAMES LAWRENCE Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <974911943.44164@egroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 27 12:21:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eARCHd318242 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:17:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eARCHbw18232 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:17:37 GMT Received: from server-41.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eARCHbk09351 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:17:37 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25906 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2000 12:03:31 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-41.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 27 Nov 2000 12:03:31 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:17:25 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B02D4301B@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'ClaphamBullfrogs@egroups.com'" Subject: New London geo team seeks recruits Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 12:17:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Those of you that have seen the UTI retirement mail will know that something must have been afoot - there's no way Guy could keep his rage in the cage! Doughboy and several of the London-based UTI players have decided to create a new club, based in South London, to challenge for European Club honours next year and use that as a springboard for World Clubs in 2002. In the interests of promoting geo Ultimate and to help open up the London scene in general we're inviting any London players who would like to be involved to come down, train with us and try out for the team at our weekly Sunday practices. We don't mind what team you're currently playing on and have even been joined at practice by several purple scum (Druids to those of you too young to know). We play at 1pm on Clapham Common, right by Eagle Pond in front of Clapham South tube station (see http://www.kbw.co.uk/shotgun/Graphics/Clapham.gif for map), and yes - we play outdoors pretty much whatever the weather! We're aiming to build a club with sufficient players to send two teams to the British Ultim-8 Tour next year, and to promote real competition for places in the squad we'll send to compete abroad. We believe that by building a large club like this we can continue to provide one of the highest quality regular practices in the country, while at the same time giving players who have in the past not been involved the chance to gain invaluable experience. We haven't yet decided how to limit numbers if we get overwhelmed, but we'll either establish a cut-off period after which we'll choose a squad, or we'll allow players a couple of practices to find their feet after which we'll let them know what we think their chances are. We play hard every practice, run drills every practice and expect players who make it to commit fully to our outdoor timetable over the winter and spring months. So, if you're interested - start showing up on Sundays, or email me at this address (roger.thomson@oyster.co.uk) for more information, especially if you'd like to come but have a particular reason for not being able to make Sundays just yet. Given that we already have several female players at practice and the team contains several KUPA players, we have considered trying to make the club a co-ed club and would be interested to hear the views of any female players and co-ed players alike. Anyway, INDOORS SUCKS! l8rs Pieboy on behalf of the self appointed junta: Euroboy (Guy Bowles), ex-UTI Pops (Aram Flores), Dough Carthorse (Alex Bowers), ex-UTI Sky (Jonathan Sinclair), Dough Miss Clapham (Mark Perryman), ex-UTI Pieboy (Roger Thomson), Dough and numerous other block-rocking South London Ultimate players (no Si Hill that description definitely doesn't include you, but even you're welcome too when you're better). __________________ Roger Thomson Consultant Oyster Partners t. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 27 15:35:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eARFW2E26553 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:32:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eARFW0w26532 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:32:00 GMT Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk ([195.44.57.146]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eARFVw905456 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:31:59 GMT Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:24:06 -0000 Message-ID: From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Leeds Indoors details Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:23:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C05885.FF6D0E00" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05885.FF6D0E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" LEEDS INDOORS : Friday night meeting THE LIBRARY same pub as normal used to be called the Feast & Firkin Captains Meeting 8.45am First Game 9.00am Saturday Night Party Fellon & Firkin - same pub as other Leeds tournaments in city centre. Contact Arun/Rick/Ben 0113 2749097 (Home) Arun (aft 6pm) 07712 583578 DIRECTIONS FOR THE WEEKEND >From South M1 M621(Leeds City Centre) Stay on City Loop signposted Universities Go past Leeds University (large White Building opposite Flames Kebab Shop) Pub is on corner of next main set of lights. >From North Follow Leeds City Centre Then follow signs for Universities Go past Leeds University (large White Building opposite Flames Kebab Shop) Pub is on corner of next main set of lights Any probs let me know or if you don't have accommodation please contact me. Arun Sharma Staff Engineer Highway Insurance Sturge Court 120 Wellington Street Leeds LS1 4LT Tel (0113) 2441266 Fax (0113) 2428226 This email, together with any attachment(s), is for the exclusive and confidential information of the addressee(s). Any other distribution, use or reproduction without the sender's prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the message without making any copies. Any views or opinions expressed are the author's and do not necessarily represent those of Highway Insurance. You should not rely on the content of this message unless satisfied it is from an authorised source. Highway Insurance reserves the right to monitor all email communications. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05885.FF6D0E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leeds Indoors details

LEEDS INDOORS :

Friday night meeting    = THE LIBRARY same pub as normal used to be =       =         =         =         called the Feast & = Firkin

Captains Meeting =        8.45am

First = Game      =         9.00am

Saturday Night Party    = Fellon & Firkin - same pub as other Leeds =       =         =         =         tournaments in city centre. =

Contact =         =         Arun/Rick/Ben   =   0113  2749097 (Home)
        =         =         Arun (aft 6pm)    07712 583578

DIRECTIONS FOR THE WEEKEND

From = South      M1
        =         M621(Leeds City Centre)
        =         Stay on City Loop signposted = Universities
        =         Go past Leeds University (large White Building = opposite
        =         Flames Kebab Shop)
        =         Pub is on corner of next main set of lights.

From = North      Follow Leeds City Centre
        =         Then follow signs for Universities
        =         Go past Leeds University (large White Building = opposite
        =         Flames Kebab Shop)
        =         Pub is on corner of next main set of lights

Any probs let me know or if you don't = have accommodation please contact me.
        =        =20
Arun Sharma
Staff Engineer
Highway Insurance
Sturge Court
120 Wellington Street
Leeds
LS1 4LT
Tel  (0113) 2441266
Fax (0113) 2428226



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------_=_NextPart_001_01C05885.FF6D0E00-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Nov 27 18:59:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eARIuYY03402 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:56:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eARIuVw03380 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:56:31 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eARIuQ924641 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:56:30 GMT Received: from cs732211.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.122.37] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 140TRP-0001u7-00; Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:55:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:56:13 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: kauy7@central.susx.ac.uk (Sheep) To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, mohawks@central.susx.ac.uk Subject: Lost t-shirt at oxford women's X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: kauy7@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I lost my black Mohawks shirt (number 07 on the front, 'SHEEP' on the back) in oxford this week, and was just wondering if anyone picked it up. Thanks, Sheep @@@@@@@@@@ /\___ @@ @@@ O \ @@ SHEEP @@____/ @@ @@@ @@@@@@@@@@@ || || ~~ ~~ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 28 00:09:13 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAS061I09028 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:06:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAS05ww09014 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:05:59 GMT Received: from web3705.mail.yahoo.com (web3705.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eAS05v910632 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:05:58 GMT Message-ID: <20001128000551.11980.qmail@web3705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.82.103.74] by web3705.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:05:51 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:05:51 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: Lost Waterproof at Northern Students To: eng8jrb@leeds.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yeah another lost property call! I left a black jacket with 'LATYMER' written in Sky-blue on the back. If it was picked up by anyone then could they let me know. If Jedi have it then Si (Higgins) is coming to Durham this weekend so he could bring it (if that's okay with him). Cheers, Joe Graves, Zésinho/Sox @ Northern Lights, Aurora Borealis, TFC P.S. If there any other ex-Latymer students around do contact me at this address. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 28 10:44:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eASAgHE06452 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:42:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASAgFw06435 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:42:15 GMT Received: from chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASAg9k26392 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:42:09 GMT Received: from millhouse.cognition.co.uk (unknown [212.134.61.195]) by chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98599F83F6 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:41:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: by MILLHOUSE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:39:10 -0000 Message-ID: <494D3B0997E7D2119FCF00A0C9FC427526FBCE@MILLHOUSE> From: Richie Smart To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: Mr Skinny looking for team at Leeds Indoor..... Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:39:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C05927.707A4312" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05927.707A4312 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mr Skinny is searching for a team to play with at the Leeds Indoor. Only require the following ingredients to start pitch activity: 1. Beer 2. Warm place for late Friday and Saturday.. 3. Beer Mr Skinny of Mr Men aka Splitter of Funky Monks aka Richie Smart ------_=_NextPart_001_01C05927.707A4312 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Mr Skinny is searching for a team to play with at the Leeds Indoor.
 
Only require the following ingredients to start pitch activity:
 
1.    Beer
2.    Warm place for late Friday and Saturday..
3.    Beer
 
Mr Skinny of Mr Men
aka Splitter of Funky Monks
aka Richie Smart
------_=_NextPart_001_01C05927.707A4312-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 28 16:59:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eASGs6a23402 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:54:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASGs4w23388 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:54:04 GMT Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASGrw923818 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:53:59 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst228.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.42]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eASGrq311177 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:53:52 GMT Message-ID: <3A23E320.3E300B10@york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:53:52 +0000 From: Jaimie Cross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Wanted, a team for Leeds. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Does anyone need a pickup of reasonable standard for the indoors this weekend? Being a student I have nothing better to do, and only live up the road so accommodation isn't an issue. All (ultimate related) offers welcomed. Cheers Jaimie Cross (Aftershock) ex-Junior, ex-YBK, poss-WYAS. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 28 18:23:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eASILbh26235 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:21:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASILZw26224 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:21:35 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f232.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.232]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASILY901765 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:21:34 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 10:21:24 -0800 Received: from 193.113.185.164 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:21:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.113.185.164] From: "Tara Jewell" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Report - Ox Women's Indoor Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 18:21:23 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2000 18:21:24.0140 (UTC) FILETIME=[03C9C6C0:01C05968] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Women’s Oxford Indoors 1. Janet Hawes, Leeds – Winners 2. OW!, Oxford 3. Skunks, Southampton 4. Phat’Eds, Sheffield 5. Ro-Sham-Bo, Edinburgh 6. SWAC, London 7. Bears, Warwick Uni 8. Squaws, Brighton - Joint Spirit Winners 9. Mythago, Bristol - Joint Spirit Winners 10. Angels, Cardiff With every team winning at least one game, the round-robin tournament format results were close with 4 of the 8 placings decided on the last 2 pool games played. The improvement in play throughout both days was immense. Some of the most competitive games included: Phat ‘Eds (4) v Janet Hawes (1) 5:7 Angels (10) v Bears (7) 5:3 Phat’Eds (4) v Ro-Sham-Bo (5) 8:7 Squaws (8) v Mythago (9) 5:4 Skunks (3) v Bears (7) 6:5 Spirit nominations were spread across many of the teams with Squaws and Mythago tied. The final saw the only undefeated team, Janet Hawes, v home team OW! Having lost severely in pool play (7:3) it was time for Oxford’s revenge. Relying on a strong, balanced team, and good understanding between players, JH were taken by surprise by OW!’s improvement over the weekend. Oxford took an early lead but strong defence from JH, combined with break-force throws, ensured OW! were always going to have to work hard. Despite OW! just managing to stay ahead for 24 minutes of the game, victory was clinched by JH in sudden death to finish 8:7 (or was it 9:8????). A HUGE thank you to all the guys who helped out this weekend - in particular: the Oxford boys who grudgingly gave up their Sat night to have a women’s team sleeping in their room; the power trip guys who I couldn’t get off the score board; the minibus drivers – petrol is always a good plan guys!; the pick-up game boys who couldn’t resist showing how to throw away with style; and the general hecklers who turned up to give constructive criticism. Lost property: One pair of tracksuit trousers A couple of discs One game of butt head? Cheers, _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Nov 28 21:57:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eASLsEJ12864 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:54:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASLsDw12852 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:54:13 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe31.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.24]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eASLs7918627 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:54:07 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:53:58 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [193.113.185.166] From: "Alan Harding" To: Subject: Looking for 'Can I Have A 'D' Please Bob' People Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:47:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C05984.D1E56200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2000 21:53:58.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5E1CB10:01C05985] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C05984.D1E56200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry BD, Please could Kevin Lowe, Ali Topping, Stan Topping or anyone else who is = playing this year please contact me. Cheers Al. Exeter alan_harding28@hotmail.com Mobile: 07790819002 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C05984.D1E56200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry BD,
 
Please could Kevin Lowe, Ali Topping, = Stan Topping=20 or anyone else who is playing this year please contact me.
 
Cheers
 
Al.
Exeter
 
alan_harding28@hotmail.com=
 
Mobile: = 07790819002
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C05984.D1E56200-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 29 11:57:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eATBp4a07386 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:51:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eATBnCw07082 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:49:37 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eATBnBk00668 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:49:11 GMT Received: from cs701078.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.136.18] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 1415jU-0001vA-00; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:49:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:49:06 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmuj5@central.susx.ac.uk (James Houghton) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: SE Student Indoor Qualifiers In-Reply-To: ; from "mmuj5" at Wed Nov 29 11:49:06 2000 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmuj5@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick note to tell people when things are kicking off on Saturday. Captain's meeting at 9.10am OUTDOOR charity match 3.00pm, so bring some studs There will also be a special guest appearance by Dr and Brother Love on their wheels of steel. Any questions problems, just reply or mail tournament@mohawks.co.uk OK see you all at the weekend James, Mohawks, TD From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Nov 29 23:37:40 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eATNScv24805 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:28:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eATNSaw24793 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:28:36 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h007.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.107]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eATNSQk28117 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:28:31 GMT Received: (cpmta 26300 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2000 23:28:20 +0000 Date: 29 Nov 2000 23:28:20 +0000 Message-ID: <20001129232820.26299.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 29 Nov 2000 23:28:20 GMT Received: from [212.139.185.214] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 29 Nov 2000 23:28:20 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.2 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Pick-ups welcomed for Leeds this weekend Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With open arms we are looking to help out some players looking for games at the Leeds tournie this weekend. If YOU are interested then WE are interested. Mail me or phone/txt me with the number below. The Beans are waiting for you call. Mal. MeanBeanMachine \\!// mta99@bigfoot.com [o o] 07720 142 720 \-/ ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 30 12:15:43 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAUC43R07061 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:04:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUC3ww07019 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:03:58 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (lsumc@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUC3v911493 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:03:57 GMT From: Miss M E Bridges Received: from localhost (lsumc@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20054 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:03:55 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: lsumc owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:03:55 +0000 (GMT) To: Subject: Warwick Indoors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eAUC3ww07022 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am pleased to announce that the famous WARWICK INDOOR TOURNEMENT will be taking place on the weekend 13th and 14th January 2001. We have space for 12 teams. You are gonna have to move fast and book your place before next Wednesday (6th Dec) because we need to know how much interest before our term ends. Cost is £95. Accomodation available. Possibly free Red Bull (we're working on it!). Massive social Saturday as per usual. Don't miss out, email lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cheers, Meg (bears) Contact: Meg Bridges. 34E Tocil Flats, University of Warwick, Coventry, CV4 7AL. Tel: 07773063043 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 30 13:33:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAUDSpc16715 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:28:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUDSkw16662 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:28:46 GMT Received: from mps1.leeds.ac.uk (mps1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUDSQk00371 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:28:27 GMT Received: from arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (arts-01.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.124.2]) by mps1.leeds.ac.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAUDSM110918 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:28:22 GMT Received: from LUCS-H22/SpoolDir by arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 30 Nov 00 13:30:52 GMT Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H22 (Mercury 1.47); 30 Nov 00 13:30:47 GMT From: "Anna Winter" Organization: University of Leeds To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:30:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Northern student report/lost property. Reply-to: eng9aw@leeds.ac.uk Message-ID: <3A265663.2316.23FB809@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last weekend was the Northern Student Indoor Qualifiers held in Leeds. The standard of play was consistently high all weekend and any of a number of sides were in with a shot of qualification. With only three qualification places and eleven first teams it was always going to be a tough tournament. Saturday saw the group games and some surprise results including a victory by Phat-'Eds 2 over Jedi 1 and a great win for Hulltimate over Northern Lights. The top 8 going into Sunday's Quarter-Finals were Phat-'Eds 1+2, Jedi, Hulltimate, Northern Lights, Yorkie Bar Kids, Fish and Finger 6. Fish ended Phat-'Eds second team's impressive run while a Fingers team growing in confidence defeated Hulltimate. Lights' qualification hopes were ended by a dominant Phat-'Eds performance and a nail-biting quarter-final between Jedi and Yorkie Bar Kids went to sudden-death at 5-5 before Rich Hims got the winning catch for Jedi, defeating a great York side. The semi-finals saw Phat-'Eds confidently stride into the final with a victory over Fingers and Fish banished memories of missing out on Nationals last year by beating Jedi in another close game. The final was a relatively straightforward 13-6 victory for Phat- 'Eds over Fish but both teams had safely qualified. In the 3/4 qualification play-off intense play by Jedi put daylight between them and Finger 6 at the beginning. Fingers fought to the end but Jedi managed to maintain their lead and take the final qualification place. Elsewhere, Posh Disc, over from Trinity College, Dublin managed to edge a brilliant plate final against Fish 2 and Lights made a storming comeback to take fifth from Phat-'Eds 2. Jedi Juniors were proud spoon winners while Boogie Knights 2 were a popular spirit choice. Congratulations to Flaming Monkeys as well. It was their first tourney and for a few of them, their first ever match! Here's the final run-down with lost property at the bottom, thanks to everyone who came and made it a great tournament. Joe/Muppet. Jedi. 1) Phat-'Eds 2) Fish 3) Jedi 4) Finger 6 5) Northern Lights 6) Phat-'Eds 2 7) Yorkie Bar Kids 8) Hulltimate 9) Posh Disc 10) Fish 2 11) Jedi Children 12) Disciples 13) Boogie Knights 1 14) Northern Lights 2 15) Boogie Knights 2 16) Yorkie Bar Kids 3 17) Jedi Juniors 18) Yorkie Bar Kids 2 19) Hulltimate 20) Flaming Monkeys Lost property: Grey Jumper (probably Piers from Fish) Size 11 Acupuncture Trainers White Exotech T-Shirt Black Latymer Jacket (Sox-I'll try to get it to Simon) Red Long-Sleeve T-Shirt Blue Nike Tracky bottoms (Kevin B?) Blue Nike T-Shirt Hull Uni Thwaite Hall T-Shirt White Fernando Brazil T-Shirt Blue Fina T-Shirt Grey T-Shirt, Tom on the back Blue Falling Skies T-Shirt Black Backpack Any takers? Get in touch and we'll arrange to get the stuff to you. I'll be at the Leeds Indoors this weekend if anyone wants to pick stuff up then. If anything new turns up, I'll let you know. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 30 13:35:47 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAUDYhq19648 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:34:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUDYcw19614 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:34:38 GMT Received: from server-40.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eAUDYAk03178 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:34:15 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 25338 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2000 13:16:54 -0000 Received: from baby.kbw.co.uk (193.133.242.50) by server-40.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 30 Nov 2000 13:16:54 -0000 Received: by baby.kbw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:33:58 -0000 Message-ID: <1DBF2E3701DFD211A65300902728A91B02D43077@baby.kbw.co.uk> From: Roger Thomson To: "'Miss M E Bridges'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Warwick Indoors Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:33:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eAUDYdw19618 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Possibly free Red Bull (we're working on it!). Just a warning that athletes (both on pitch and in bar) should perhaps be careful of overindulging in Red Bull and other energy drinks. http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/11/26/stiheahea03003.html Mango (ex-Catch22) had a very severe episode at Worlds this year which some of you will know about. We never got to the bottom of it (let us know if you know anything better), but quite a few of the Open team had suspicions that it may have been a reaction to overdosing on one of the powdered isotonic drinks. Maybe Doc Marfleet has an opinion if he's out there... Regards PieBoy -----Original Message----- From: Miss M E Bridges [mailto:lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk] Sent: 30 November 2000 12:04 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Warwick Indoors I am pleased to announce that the famous WARWICK INDOOR TOURNEMENT will be taking place on the weekend 13th and 14th January 2001. We have space for 12 teams. You are gonna have to move fast and book your place before next Wednesday (6th Dec) because we need to know how much interest before our term ends. Cost is £95. Accomodation available. Possibly free Red Bull (we're working on it!). Massive social Saturday as per usual. Don't miss out, email lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cheers, Meg (bears) Contact: Meg Bridges. 34E Tocil Flats, University of Warwick, Coventry, CV4 7AL. Tel: 07773063043 ------------------------------------------------------------ Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Nov 30 15:39:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eAUF6sO01484 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:06:54 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUF5Yw00861 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:05:35 GMT Received: from mail-gw1 (mailgate.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAUF5Sk19979 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:05:33 GMT Received: from ultimateweb (www.ultimateweb.co.uk [195.146.160.203]) by mail-gw1 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA13262 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:06:58 GMT Message-Id: <200011301506.PAA13262@mail-gw1> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:06:54 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eAUF5aw00880 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - W & SW STUDENT REGIONALS Location: Talybont, Cardiff - [Indoor Ultimate] Wales and South West Student Indoor Regionals Stuart Austin 2 Monthermer rd, Cathays, Cardiff, , CF2 4QW Main Email: AustinSR@cardiff.ac.uk Home Phone: 029 20256285 Mobile: 07979 837347 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: The Ark , sports recreation centre, Glasgow Caledonian University. - [Indoor Ultimate] The tournament is being held by Far Flung (University of Glasgow)on the 2nd and 3rd of December 2000. The tournament is open to all university teams within Scotland. Entry fee will be £85 per team, cheques should be made out to GUUFC and sent to Philip Webb Flat 3/3 76 Chancellor st Glasgow G11 5PW Accomodation will be provided. Further details will follow via email. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Philip Webb Flat 3/3, 76 Chancellor st, Glasgow, , G11 5PW Main Email: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk Alternative Email: 9806017L@student.gla.ac.uk Home Phone: 0141 334 6123 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTH-EASTERN STUDENT INDOOR QUALIFIERS Location: Sportscentre, University of Sussex - [Indoor Ultimate] Student Indoor regionals. Space for 16 teams. Tournament fee: £75 per team. Cheques made payable to Mohawks Ultimate. Music and merriment galore. Mads V. Jacobsen 76b Beaconsfield Rd, Brighton, , , BN1 6DD Main Email: lukas_bob@hotmail.com Alternative Email: juandimarco@hotmail.com Home Phone: (01273) 559283 ____________________________________________________________ 02 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - LEEDS INDOORS Location: Leeds Grammar School - [Indoor Ultimate] 20-24 Teams. Cost £95 cheques payable to Mild Mannered Janitors. Accommodation available. Arun Sharma 42 Richmond Mount, Headingley, Leeds, , LS6 1DF Main Email: arun_s@hway.co.uk Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: 0113 2441266 x2259 ____________________________________________________________ 09 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - MIDLANDS STUDENT REGIONALS Location: Loughborough University - [Indoor Ultimate] http://www.purplyhaze.co.uk Luke Smith 3 Blithfield Avenue, Loughborough, Leicestershire, , LE11 4SY Main Email: L.M.Smith-99@student.lboro.ac.uk Alternative Email: I.R.Thackrah-99@student.lboro.ac.uk Home Phone: 01509 267529 Mobile: 07867 502596 ____________________________________________________________ 16 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON INDOORS Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 12 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK INDOORS Location: University of Warwick, Coventry - [Indoor Ultimate] Only 12 places available! Meg Bridges 34E Tocil Flats, University of Warwick, Coventry, , CV4 7AL Main Email: lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mobile: 07773063043 ____________________________________________________________ 17 JANUARY 2001 (5 DAYS) - FLYING DISC FIESTA 2001 Location: Acapulco, Mexico - [Outdoor Ultimate, Other Event] Please come help us start up Ultimate in Mexico! We would really love for you to come and have fun with us!! http://www.discovolador.com/fiesta2001/ Linda Anderson Apdo. Postal 11-351, Mexico D.F. 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To excluded from further communication, double click on the link below. mailto:return89@uole.com?subject=delete-edan From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Dec 3 17:12:29 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB3H2SL16174 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:02:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB3H2Pw16011 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:02:25 GMT Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (web124.mail.yahoo.com [205.180.60.192]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eB3H2Nk22128 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:02:24 GMT Received: (qmail 9890 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2000 17:02:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20001203170221.9889.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [193.122.96.173] by web124.yahoomail.com; Sun, 03 Dec 2000 09:02:21 PST Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 09:02:21 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Mallarkey?= Subject: ForcingHome - New tournament photos online To: sneeekys@egroups.com, ro-sham-bo@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, brolles.christophe@vnumail.com, jrbaudot@wanadoo.fr, dan@farfromout.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, sorry to those who get this mail more than once! Just a quick mail to let you know that I've updated my website with photos taken at tournaments throughout the summer. In addition to the Hong Kong 7s (Leeds, June) lot, there's also photos from Ross-on-Wye, Glastonbury Gunslinger and Leicester Mixed Nationals. Ego Wang Fest 2000 (Cheltenham, November) photos will be up very soon! Have a look during your coffee break if you can. It's at http://www.forcinghome.co.uk Cheers, Andy (Sneeeky's, Edinburgh) ===== strijka - It's pronounced "stree-kaa" ===== Visit http://www.forcinghome.co.uk - the Ultimate photo archive ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 4 13:30:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB4CgUb21661 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:42:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB4CgHw21354 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:42:18 GMT Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB4CgA916465 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:42:10 GMT Message-Id: <200012041242.eB4CgA916465@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: britdisc Subject: Junior National Indoors Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 12:37:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eB4CgJw21381 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk CALLING ALL JUNIORS 2001 Junior National Indoors 20/21 January 2001 To be held at Grantham Meres Leisure Centre, Trent Road, Grantham, Lincolnshire All Juniors are invited to play whether they have a team or not. So if you dont have enough players for a full team. . . . chill; . . . we'll match you up with some pick ups. The event will be held at the Leisure centre, but party, accommodation and food will all be accessed at the Local FE college. Price is £15 per head. £7 for non playing coaches. For your fees you will get ULTIMATE 2 full days worth of indoor ultimate, a minimum of 8, 15 minute games. Coaches game. See the game played by your gurus. FOOD Breakfast on Saturday morning if you travelled up on the friday night. Saturday Dinner after a hard days play Sunday breakfast ACCOMMODATION You have 2 options 1. To bring your sleeping bag, and kip with your team on the floor of classroom at the local college or 2. Pay an extra £9 for a bed! in the college halls. PARTY Party is at the on site Bar. We'll have all sorts going on, a spitting distance from where you'll be sleeping. QUALIFICATION To qualify as a junior and eligible to play you must be under the age of 20 for all of 2001. If you turn 20 in 2001 you are too old. Anyone younger than this qualifies. FACILITIES FOR WOMEN Separate facilities will be available for females whether part of an all female of mixed team. CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL All players and coaches will be invited to the saturday night party. If juniors are expecting to be served with alcoholic beverages, they will need ID with proof that their age exceeds 18. Please send your cheques payable to Grantham College to: National Junior Ultimate Championships c/o Paul Unwin Grantham College Stonebridge Road Grantham Lincs NG31 9AP Closing date for entries: 20th December 2000 Along with cheque please specify team name, number of players of each sex, accommodation option, and any specific dietry requirements. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 6 13:17:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB6DB0416301 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:11:00 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB6DAsw16238 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:10:54 GMT Received: from hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk (hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.16.102]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB6DAqk22337 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:10:52 GMT Received: from student_cs.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.13.78] helo=lms.student.gla.ac.uk) by hillend.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 143eLT-0000iF-00; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 13:10:51 +0000 Received: from STUDENT_CS/SpoolDir by lms.student.gla.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 6 Dec 00 13:11:24 BST Received: from SpoolDir by STUDENT_CS (Mercury 1.48); 6 Dec 00 13:11:02 BST From: "Philip Webb" <9800137W@student.gla.ac.uk> Organization: Glasgow University To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:10:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Scottish Student Indoor Regionals. Reply-to: 9800137w@student.gla.ac.uk CC: ssul@egroups.com X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last weekend the Scottish student indoor regionals were held in Glasgow. The final positions were: 1) Ro Sham Bo 1 Top 2)Far Flung 1 Three 3)Flatball Project 1 - Spirit Winners. Qualify. 4) Ro Sham Bo 2 5)Shooting Stars 6)Falling Skies 1 7)Well Hung (Far Flung ) 8)Flatball Project 3 9)Flatball Project 2 - Plate Winners 10)Falling Skies 2 11)Shooting Off (Dundee) 12)Iron Lung (Far Flung) 13)Ro Sham Bo 3 14)Screaming Stars (Dundee) 15)Highly Strung (Far Flung) - Spoon Winners Despite the much smaller region this year the high standard of play was still maintained as well as spirit, combining to make it a very succesful, enjoyable tournament. Philip Webb Far Flung 9800137w@student.glas.ac.uk Lost Property: Black Helly Hansen waterproof Small grey Nike t-shirt XL University of Wisconsin T-shirt Small black Umbrella. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 6 13:20:48 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB6DJf221997 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:19:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB6DJdw21986 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:19:39 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f54.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.54]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB6DJck27895 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 13:19:39 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Dec 2000 05:19:26 -0800 Received: from 137.222.10.58 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 13:19:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.222.10.58] From: "Scymetar -:D" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Mythago Tournament 2001 Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 13:19:25 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2000 13:19:26.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[27E3FB50:01C05F87] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk YOU ARE INVITED TO THE MYTHAGO OPEN TOURNAMENT 2001 Bristol will be hosting an INDOOR TOURNAMENT in a large double pitched hall in February 2001. The date is set at 2 weeks before the proposed date of Student Indoor Finals, so it's the ideal time to perfect those plays. For those of you who aren't students, there's going to be some high-class ultimate, so don't miss out on your chance practice those skills ahead of the Indoor Regionals. All teams are welcome so it would be good to see some of those new up and coming teams too. It's going to be a 16 team tournament so get your cheques in quickly! As you'd expect, teams will be treated to the finest Bristolian hospitality on Saturday evening, involving food, beer and dancing to name but a few. Accommodation will be available over the weekend for any teams that need it (priority to students...sorry). So there you go ... no excuse not to come, really. Date: February 10-11th, 2001 Venue: Whitchurch Sports Centre, Bristol Cost: £90 per team Cheques payable to: "U.B.U.F.C." Send to: J Cater, 5 Clifton Down Road, Clifton Village, Bristol, BS8 4AG. Contact: Jon Cater (captain) , James Rodgers (vice-captain) Cheers James. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 7 12:20:28 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB7CGr014698 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:16:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB7CGow14669 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:16:50 GMT Received: from primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (lsumc@primrose [137.205.192.26]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB7CGo908642 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:16:50 GMT From: Miss M E Bridges Received: from localhost (lsumc@localhost) by primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23378 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:16:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: primrose.csv.warwick.ac.uk: lsumc owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:16:48 +0000 (GMT) To: Subject: Warwick Indoors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just like to say a big thank you to everyone who has requested places at our fantastic tournement and their speedy cheque postage! The deadline for entries was yesterday and I am pleased to announce the allocation of places as follows (in no particular order): 1. Baboom 2. Fusion 3. Red 4. Strange blue 5. Sneekys 6. Mwnci See 7. Substance Abuse 8. WAS 9. Janitors 10. Whiplash 11. Mexican Horse Bandits 12. Angels Sorry to eveyone who didn't get a place. I shall be contacting everyone who sent cheques personally. Cheers, Meg From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 7 13:36:42 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB7DZJo03295 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:35:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB7DZHw03273 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:35:17 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f33.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB7DZG900771 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 13:35:17 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 05:35:09 -0800 Received: from 62.7.19.51 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 13:35:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.7.19.51] From: "Tara Jewell" To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Fwd: RIMINI - Paganello beach tournament Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 13:35:09 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2000 13:35:09.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[847CA580:01C06052] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anybody is interested, please contact Sara direct (I presume she means women players - but I'm not certain). Tara >From: Sara.Godomen@legalease.co.uk (Sara Godomen) >To: tsjewell@hotmail.com >Subject: REMINI >Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 12:57:49 +0000 > >Hi Tara !!! > >My name is Sara, I'm french and I played in an ultimate team called >Synoptic. >I live in london now, but I have heard about Remini (Italie) >I know you have already played in this tournement.This year a french team >try to be create as last year, but I think they won't be enought so they >need players. I think it could be a nice idea to mix players from france >and england, so if some of you are interessed in, Just send me a mail. > >I hope my english is not too bad, you can also contact me on 0207 938 43 57 > >Speak with you soon > >Sara > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Dec 9 12:45:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eB9CgDI25876 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:42:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB9CgC825863 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:42:12 GMT Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eB9CgAY23406 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:42:12 GMT Received: from otto ([212.120.114.106]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001209124204.OEYC25998.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@otto>; Sat, 9 Dec 2000 13:42:04 +0100 X-Sender: s9506594@mail.student.utwente.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:41:48 +0100 To: itadisc-owner@egroups.com, frisbee_dk-owner@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Otto Wormgoor Subject: Devils' Heaven 2001 invitation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20001209124204.OEYC25998.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@otto> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear indoor-ultimate fans,

For the fifth year in a row it is our privilege an honor to invite you to =93Devils=92 Heaven=94, the indoor tournament hosted by the Disc Devils Twen= te. For 2001 we set the tournament date for 24 and 25 February; the last weekend of that month.

The Campus of the University of Twente is an excellent location for a tournament; the sportscentre, the Mensa (were we will eat on Saturday evening) and the Vestingbar (party & live band!!) are all in crawling distance. Up till now, the tournament has attracted strong Dutch and foreign teams and for this years=92 edition we also expect strong competition. In a few weeks we will update the tou= rnament homepage to keep you informed on which teams have registered.

The teamfee will be NLG: 200,- with a players fee of NLG 25,-. For this amount you will receive
=B7 dinner, party & live band, and a place to sleep on Saturday evening
=B7 breakfast on Sunday morning
=B7 a tournament disc
=B7 and = of course, eight matches of ultimate (25 min. each)
=B7 (accommodation on Friday can be arranged. If you need accommodation on Friday evening, please contact us.

Registration can be done by replying to this mail with the attached registration form and by payment of the total fee (teamfee + number of player times the player fee). Payment can be made by depositing the total fee in our account (see below) or by sending Eurocheckes for that amount. Only Eurocheckes in NLG are accepted. Your registration is final when we have received your payment. When we know which teams will participate, we will sent you information detailed information on the tournament.

Register early to make sure you don=92t miss this years Devils=92 Heaven. Deadline is January 15th. To celebrate fifth time we organise the tournament we will do our best to surprise you with the best ultimate and a great party.

See you on the field!

Kind regards,

The Devil=92s Heaven Committee
Anet, Otto, Roelof, Stefan and Wim

Bank Account info: #7741757
in the name of Devils' Heaven
P.O.Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede.


Devils=92 Heaven 2001 Registration From
24-25 February 2001


Team: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

No. of players: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Contact: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Address: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Phone: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

e-mail: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Please fill out and return to:

University of Twente
Disc Devils Twente
P.O. Box 217
7500 AE Enschede
the Netherlands

or e-mail to: o.s.wormgoor@student.utwente.nl


Do not forget to enclose Eurocheckes (in NLG) or to pay your fees to 7741757
 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Dec 10 21:07:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBAL3vO27646 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:03:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBAL3t827635 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:03:55 GMT Received: from bodum.sout.netline.net.uk (bodum.sout.netline.net.uk [213.40.2.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBAL3sY00116 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:03:54 GMT Received: from [213.40.9.115] (helo=desai) by bodum.sout.netline.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 145DdA-0000rj-00; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:03:36 +0000 Message-ID: <003501c06330$75e81d20$730928d5@desai> Reply-To: "rjdesai" From: "rjdesai" To: , Subject: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:08:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C062ED.632F7680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C062ED.632F7680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, As Captain of GBH - I'd like to get the first word in on the decision = not to allow GBH to qualify for nationals. The decision was made just prior to the final (GBH v. Ow! 1) due to one = (of nine) of my players being classified as not sufficiently 'full time' = a student to be elligible to take part thus disqualifying the entire = team from nationals. This we feel is a totally unfair decision for numerous reasons. Firstly, the player in question is a beginner of this academic term and = played (in our key games) a maximum of a couple of points . He therefore = made no difference what so ever to us qualifying. Secondly, this issue was raised only once we had displaced Bears 1 = (Sunday morning), thereby preventing them from qualifying, and beaten = Mwnci See 1, for a place in the final, if it had been raised earlier we = would of course have removed our "part time" student (which would have = made no difference to the result) immediately and we would have been = elligible to qualify. We felt the issue was raised not on grounds of = fairness, as any team playing us would have seen the player in question = was there more to watch then to play, but because we displaced a team = which was expected to win.=20 We attended the tournament with the best of intentions and I can testify = my players played with a lot of enthusiam and spirit. This decision goes = no way to reciprocating this. I understand the need to have a fixed rule but I can see no = justification, in a specific case as this, for a decision to go against = what is clearly the right and fair thing to do.=20 This is GBH s first and probably last year of student Ultimate. We = trained hard and that paid of in Loughborough but unreasonable decisions = such as this are what demoralise new teams and in no way help the = development of the sport.=20 I think further discussion of this issue is in order before a decision = is made.=20 Also, in future when new teams such as our own enter clarification = should be given on such points and should not have to be especially = sought since as shown here; how were we supposed to know a part time = student is not a student in the eyes of student ulitimate? - the onus = should be on those in the game to help new sides not for them to = disqualify them on an obscure technicality as here. I hope the decision will be reversed in light of this. Yours, Raj GBH / GB Junior ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C062ED.632F7680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
As Captain of GBH - I'd like to get = the first=20 word in on the decision not to allow GBH to qualify for=20 nationals.
The decision was made just prior to = the final=20 (GBH v. Ow! 1) due to one (of nine) of my players being classified = as not=20 sufficiently 'full time' a student to be elligible to take part=20 thus disqualifying the entire team from nationals.
This we feel is a totally unfair = decision for=20 numerous reasons.
Firstly, the player in question is a = beginner=20 of this academic term and played (in our key games) a maximum of a = couple=20 of points . He therefore made no difference what so ever to us=20 qualifying.
Secondly, this issue was = raised only=20 once we had displaced Bears 1 (Sunday morning), thereby preventing them = from=20 qualifying, and beaten Mwnci See 1, for a place in the final, if it had = been=20 raised earlier we would of course have removed our "part time" student = (which=20 would have made no difference to the result) immediately  and = we would=20 have been elligible to qualify. We felt the issue was raised not on = grounds of=20 fairness, as any team playing us would have seen the player in = question was=20 there more to watch then to play, but because we displaced a team = which was=20 expected to win. 
We attended the tournament with the = best of=20 intentions and I can testify my players played with a lot of = enthusiam and=20 spirit. This decision goes no way to reciprocating this.
I understand the need to have a = fixed=20 rule but I can see no justification, in a specific case as this, for a = decision=20 to go against what is clearly the right and fair thing to = do. 
This is GBH s first and probably = last year of=20 student Ultimate. We trained hard and that paid of in=20 Loughborough but unreasonable decisions such as this are what = demoralise=20 new teams and in no way help the development of the = sport. 
I think further discussion = of this=20 issue is in order before a decision is made. 
Also, in future when new teams such = as our=20 own enter = clarification should be=20 given on such points and should not have to be especially = sought since=20 as shown here; how were we supposed to know a part time student is not a = student=20 in the eyes of student ulitimate? - the onus should be on those in the = game to=20 help new sides not for them to disqualify them on an obscure = technicality as=20 here.
I hope the decision will be = reversed in=20 light of this.
Yours,
 
Raj
GBH / GB = Junior
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C062ED.632F7680-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 11 16:15:12 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBBG9SL00184 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:09:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBBG9R800175 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:09:27 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBBG9ON03953 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:09:26 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA34502 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:08:07 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200012111608.QAA34502@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:11:07 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBBG9R800178 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 16 DECEMBER 2000 (2 DAYS) - SOUTHAMPTON INDOORS Location: Southampton - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 13 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK INDOORS Location: University of Warwick, Coventry - [Indoor Ultimate] Only 12 places available! Meg Bridges 34E Tocil Flats, University of Warwick, Coventry, , CV4 7AL Main Email: lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mobile: 07773063043 ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (1 DAYS) - MAGIC CIRCLE SCOTTISH INVITATIONAL Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Indoor tournament at Meadowbank on the Saturday, optional outdoor pickup game at the Meadows on Sunday. Space for 10 Scottish teams - for further info email the address below. http://www.forcinghome.co.uk/ Andy Mallarkey Main Email: strijka@yahoo.com Mobile: 07867 583899 Fax: 0870 70 60 498 ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - NATIONAL JUNIOR INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Grantham Meres Leisure Centre / Grantham College - [Indoor Ultimate] Paul Unwin (Stig) Grantham College, Stonebridge Road, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk Alternative Email: woolpack5dave@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01476 577993 Work Phone: 01476 400200 x317 Fax: 01476 400291 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS INDOORS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry, isle of mull - [Disc Golf] andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Dec 11 16:35:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBBGYbB13464 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:34:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBBGYa813451 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:34:36 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBBGYaN14688 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:34:36 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03457 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:34:35 GMT Received: from B45B-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45b-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.41]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eBBGYYf15211 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:34:34 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Subject: Southampton Indoors Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:34:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes the time is nearly hear so I thought that it was about time to let you know how to get here and some hotels/b&b's if needed. DIRECTIONS: go to- http://www.soton.ac.uk/menus/mimenu/where.html For info on how to find sports hall click on Highfield campus. ACCOMODATION: Highfield House Hotel 119 Highfield lane 023 80359955 The Lodge 1 winn road 023 80557537 Travelodge Lodge road 023 80229023 Novotel Hotel (slightly further away, in town centre) 1 west quay road 023 80330550 floor space as been asked for by: Mythago - sat Total muppets - fri and sat? Essex Boys - fri and sat? Hope this is okay any probs contact me. 023 80678147 or email this address See you all there Sally (skunks) ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 00:39:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBC0a6400779 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:36:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC0a4800764 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:36:04 GMT Received: from bedpan.sout.netline.net.uk (bedpan.sout.netline.net.uk [213.40.2.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC0ZmN28087 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:36:03 GMT Received: from [213.40.20.89] (helo=desai) by bedpan.sout.netline.net.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 145dPp-0004lL-00; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:35:34 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c06417$3fc870e0$591428d5@desai> Reply-To: "rjdesai" From: "rjdesai" To: , References: <003501c06330$75e81d20$730928d5@desai> <03ad01c06384$8529dcc0$3800020a@perkin> Subject: Re: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 00:40:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim et al, You misunderstood if you thought I knew that any such rule existed. Secondly, while I do understand the rule to be necessary to prevent teams from fielding experienced unelligible players under flimsy pretences, it surely was not intended to disqualify a team under these circumstances. Here, to reiterate, the inelligible player in question, Tim, was subbed on, as with several other of our inexperienced subs, only when we had a clear lead or were losing badly i.e. when we could afford to compromise the standard of the team. Rules are rules but I feel it is important to look to the intentions behind those rules and where there is a VALID exception it should be made. Perhaps this a sentiment shared by others? Yours, Raj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Blair" To: "Student Ultimate" Cc: "rjdesai" Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:10 AM Subject: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision > Raj et al, > > For those that don't know the details : at the Midlands qualifiers this > w/e, GBH finished 2nd, beating two of the top 4 seeds in the process. > However, the decision was made that they would not qualify for nationals due > to them having fielded an ineligible player in a student tournament. > > This player (I believe his name was Tim), is currently working, and spending > two evenings a week at college. The eligibility rules define an eligible > student as follows : > > "Any player is considered a student if, at the time of the tournament, they > can show themselves to be registered as a full or part time internal > student, on a graduating course at the institution under consideration. Part > time students must be able to demonstrate that their student status is their > primary occupation." > > As the player was a part-time student, he had to prove that his primary > occupation was as such. Two nights a week does not class as a 'primary > occupation'. > > Now on with the discussion: > > > Firstly, the player in question is a beginner of this academic > > term and played (in our key games) a maximum of a couple of > > points . He therefore made no difference what so ever to us > > qualifying. > > Yes, he may have only played a couple of points, but he still did play. > Whether he played 1 point all w/e, or every point, he still played. > > > Secondly, this issue was raised only once we had displaced Bears > > 1 (Sunday morning), thereby preventing them from qualifying, and > > beaten Mwnci See 1, for a place in the final, if it had been > > raised earlier we would of course have removed our "part time" > > student (which would have made no difference to the result) > > immediately and we would have been elligible to qualify. > > The only reason it was only bought up at this point was due to the fact that > we only learned of it then. If we had known about it on Saturday afternoon, > things would have been sorted out then. The only way in which a difference > would have made would have been by discovering this _before_ play even > started on the Saturday morning. Even if he had played one point in the > first game only, he still played, and made the team ineligible. > > > We felt the issue was raised not on grounds of fairness, as any > > team playing us would have seen the player in question was there > > more to watch then to play, but because we displaced a team which > > was expected to win. > > The decision was _not_ made because you displaced any top teams. The > decision was made because we had to enforce the eligibility rules. It only > made a difference because you would have qualified. If you had finished < > 4th, you still would have got a telling off, but it wouldn't have made a > difference. > > > I understand the need to have a fixed rule but I can see no > > justification, in a specific case as this, for a decision to go > > against what is clearly the right and fair thing to do. > > It may seem unfair. It may actually _be_ unfair. But the rules are in > place for everyone. If we start making exceptions for one team, soon enough > other teams will start saying "you let them do it, so why can't we", and the > whole thing becomes a big mess. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and > unfortuneately you crossed it, whether intentionally or without knowing. > > > Also, in future when new teams such as our own enter clarification > > should be given on such points and should not have to be especially > > sought since as shown here; how were we supposed to know a part time > > student is not a student in the eyes of student ulitimate? - the onus > > should be on those in the game to help new sides not for them to > > disqualify them on an obscure technicality as here. > > Yes, I agree - new sides should be encourage at all times. However, with > your "how were we supposed to know..." comment - you said yourself on Sunday > afternoon that you knew of some limitation as to part-time students. You > said yourself that you should have checked it out... > > > I hope the decision will be reversed in light of this. > > I apologise, but my decision will _not_ be reversed. > > Tim. > > -- > Tim Blair > National Student Co-ordinator 2000-01 > Captain - Mwnci See > http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ > tim@mwncisee.co.uk > > > > > . > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/1/_/4490/_/976547389/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Blair" To: "Student Ultimate" Cc: "rjdesai" Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:10 AM Subject: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision > Raj et al, > > For those that don't know the details : at the Midlands qualifiers this > w/e, GBH finished 2nd, beating two of the top 4 seeds in the process. > However, the decision was made that they would not qualify for nationals due > to them having fielded an ineligible player in a student tournament. > > This player (I believe his name was Tim), is currently working, and spending > two evenings a week at college. The eligibility rules define an eligible > student as follows : > > "Any player is considered a student if, at the time of the tournament, they > can show themselves to be registered as a full or part time internal > student, on a graduating course at the institution under consideration. Part > time students must be able to demonstrate that their student status is their > primary occupation." > > As the player was a part-time student, he had to prove that his primary > occupation was as such. Two nights a week does not class as a 'primary > occupation'. > > Now on with the discussion: > > > Firstly, the player in question is a beginner of this academic > > term and played (in our key games) a maximum of a couple of > > points . He therefore made no difference what so ever to us > > qualifying. > > Yes, he may have only played a couple of points, but he still did play. > Whether he played 1 point all w/e, or every point, he still played. > > > Secondly, this issue was raised only once we had displaced Bears > > 1 (Sunday morning), thereby preventing them from qualifying, and > > beaten Mwnci See 1, for a place in the final, if it had been > > raised earlier we would of course have removed our "part time" > > student (which would have made no difference to the result) > > immediately and we would have been elligible to qualify. > > The only reason it was only bought up at this point was due to the fact that > we only learned of it then. If we had known about it on Saturday afternoon, > things would have been sorted out then. The only way in which a difference > would have made would have been by discovering this _before_ play even > started on the Saturday morning. Even if he had played one point in the > first game only, he still played, and made the team ineligible. > > > We felt the issue was raised not on grounds of fairness, as any > > team playing us would have seen the player in question was there > > more to watch then to play, but because we displaced a team which > > was expected to win. > > The decision was _not_ made because you displaced any top teams. The > decision was made because we had to enforce the eligibility rules. It only > made a difference because you would have qualified. If you had finished < > 4th, you still would have got a telling off, but it wouldn't have made a > difference. > > > I understand the need to have a fixed rule but I can see no > > justification, in a specific case as this, for a decision to go > > against what is clearly the right and fair thing to do. > > It may seem unfair. It may actually _be_ unfair. But the rules are in > place for everyone. If we start making exceptions for one team, soon enough > other teams will start saying "you let them do it, so why can't we", and the > whole thing becomes a big mess. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and > unfortuneately you crossed it, whether intentionally or without knowing. > > > Also, in future when new teams such as our own enter clarification > > should be given on such points and should not have to be especially > > sought since as shown here; how were we supposed to know a part time > > student is not a student in the eyes of student ulitimate? - the onus > > should be on those in the game to help new sides not for them to > > disqualify them on an obscure technicality as here. > > Yes, I agree - new sides should be encourage at all times. However, with > your "how were we supposed to know..." comment - you said yourself on Sunday > afternoon that you knew of some limitation as to part-time students. You > said yourself that you should have checked it out... > > > I hope the decision will be reversed in light of this. > > I apologise, but my decision will _not_ be reversed. > > Tim. > > -- > Tim Blair > National Student Co-ordinator 2000-01 > Captain - Mwnci See > http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ > tim@mwncisee.co.uk > > > > > . > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/1/_/4490/_/976547389/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 09:23:44 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBC9Jud18013 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC9Jr817993 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:53 GMT Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (mail@ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC9JqN06225 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:52 GMT Received: from mx0.nmh.ifl.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mx0.ifl.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #12) id 145lb5-0001Zi-00; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:43 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mx0.ifl.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBC9JhJ10335; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:43 GMT Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:38 -0000 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270808D0D2@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: "'rjdesai'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:19:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk GBH, The eligibility rules should exist, and should be in place. Several years ago, Mohawks beat Mythago in the Outdoor Student Finals. Three weeks later, they were stripped of the title because they fielded students from overseas - it so happened that those players *did* make a difference: there wasn't much argument to be made. You ask for leniency in your case, but as Tim pointed out, *you* should have known the rules, and *you* should have made it clear to the TD, at the start of the tournament, that you wished to see some flexibility in the rules. It's harsh, but you cannot blame someone else for your own inability to read the eligibility rules. They are there for very good reasons. Yeah, Spirit can be applied, but Spirit means playing by the rules, just as much as it means playing with silly hats on, or getting pissed in the bar. Andy Cotgreave Chevron (and I was on the Mythago team that "won" the student nationals that year, too!) STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 09:46:05 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBC9j8129778 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:45:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC9j7829769 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:45:07 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC9j6N08294 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:45:07 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus via SMTP Local (Mailer 3.1); Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:44:59 +0000 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08345; Tue, 12 Dec 00 09:44:54 GMT Message-Id: <10012120944.AA08345@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:44:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion Cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com In-Reply-To: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270808D0D2@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > You ask for leniency in your case, but as Tim pointed out, *you* should have > known the rules, and *you* should have made it clear to the TD, at the start > of the tournament, that you wished to see some flexibility in the rules. > It's harsh, but you cannot blame someone else for your own inability to read > the eligibility rules. They are there for very good reasons. Yeah, Spirit > can be applied, but Spirit means playing by the rules, just as much as it > means playing with silly hats on, or getting pissed in the bar. This argument isn't any of my business but this last got me thinking, isn't one of the aims of the rules to try to "provide a guideline which describes the way the game is played. It is assumed that no ultimate player will intentionally violate the rules; there are no harsh penalties for inadvertent infractions but, rather, a method for resuming play in a manner which simulates what would most likely have occurred had there been no infraction." does/should this still apply to the way competitions are sorted out as well as to problems on the actual field of play? If so it would seem to have some applicability to this argument. Peter Connor (noting that the best way to avoid this trouble is to know the rules) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 09:56:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBC9tM703811 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:55:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC9tL803797 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:55:21 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBC9sAN09525 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:54:24 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10561 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:54:09 GMT Received: from B45B-03.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45b-03.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.39]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eBC9s9f27572 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:54:09 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Subject: Southampton Indoors Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:54:07 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry, Forgot to say that captains meeting is at 9am sharp on Saturday in the sports hall at Highfield campus (directions sent yesterday) C U at the weekend ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 10:13:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCACOq10543 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCACN810524 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:23 GMT Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCACMY10869 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:22 GMT Received: from stu-1157140.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.138.202]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id KAA06519; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:12:16 GMT From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: rjdesai Cc: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision In-Reply-To: <003501c06330$75e81d20$730928d5@desai> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:09:45 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A few questions need to be asked here: one being what constitutes as a student? The answer to this can be solved as follows - a student is a person who studies at or is affiliated to an academic institute. For convenience sake you can classify a student as one with an NUS card. Part time students are members of the NUS and therefore constitute as students. There are no shades of gray with this classification and so all students are eligible to play in student tournaments. "not sufficiently 'full time' a student" - this description is (to be quite frank) a load of bollocks. A full time course (such as psychology) could only have as little as 2 hours a week time allocated to study at an institute where as a part time course (such as mechanical engineering) could have as much as 9 hours a week - so which is "sufficiently 'full time'" enough for student ultimate? UWE as a university has over 24 000 students around 10 000 of which are part time. For the last 3 years UWE (ultimate frisbee) have had part time students playing for us as if we didn't we would be openly discriminating against them. Never once have we been asked if we've got any part time students playing for us. This is probably because we have normally played against times with good spirit who care more about enjoying the sport rather than beurocrasy. The South West Student Qualifiers are run with good spirit so it seems rather a shame that other student qualifiers are not run to the same level as the South West. Good luck Raj, Stuart. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 11:11:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCBA0U07921 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:10:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCB9w807898 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:58 GMT Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCB9vN29411 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:58 GMT Received: from pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:root@pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.27]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id eBCB9rl01954; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:53 GMT Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA28921; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:52 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Booth To: "'rjdesai'" cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion In-Reply-To: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270808D0D2@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I agree that eligibility rules should exist, and that once there they should be used. While I think its reasonable to expect established teams - like Bears, Muncic and Ow - to be aware of these rules and abide by them, the problem arose with the new sides. The Midlands qualifiers saw a record 28 teams entered. Many of them have never competed at that level before and most of these teams were completly new to us. How many of us could have quoted the student eligilbility rule before this tournament - I couldn't. I rely on the more experienced members of my team to be on top of this. But there isn't that history of of playing in Student competions in the 6-8 new teams who played last weekend. GBH hasn't a team trained by an old frisbee hand but a bunch of folk who decieded that they wanted to play and got themselves there - and into the final of the qualifiers. With GBH disqualified, we all lost out, GBH, Bears and student ultimate. If new teams are out there and are going to come into the sport and put forward serious challanges - we need to ensure that they are aware of the situation before the semi-final stage of the competition. This need to be a wake up call to the student body that we need to ensure that new teams are aware of the situation before hand. Who failed in this situation GBH for not checking meticulously enough or Student ultimate for not ensuring that they were aware. Ben Booth('s two pence) On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, ANDY COTGREAVE wrote: > GBH, > The eligibility rules should exist, and should be in place. Several years > ago, Mohawks beat Mythago in the Outdoor Student Finals. Three weeks later, > they were stripped of the title because they fielded students from overseas > - it so happened that those players *did* make a difference: there wasn't > much argument to be made. > > You ask for leniency in your case, but as Tim pointed out, *you* should have > known the rules, and *you* should have made it clear to the TD, at the start > of the tournament, that you wished to see some flexibility in the rules. > > It's harsh, but you cannot blame someone else for your own inability to read > the eligibility rules. They are there for very good reasons. Yeah, Spirit > can be applied, but Spirit means playing by the rules, just as much as it > means playing with silly hats on, or getting pissed in the bar. > > Andy Cotgreave > Chevron > (and I was on the Mythago team that "won" the student nationals that year, > too!) > > > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or > disclose its contents to anyone. 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If this email has come to you in error please delete it and > any attachments. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 11:40:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCBdb124077 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCBda824056 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:36 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCBdZY01308 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:35 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24104; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:25 GMT Received: from B25A-33.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b25a-33.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.24.142]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eBCBdPf12799; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:25 GMT From: andy cox Reply-To: ajc298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry guys, time for another tuppence-worth. Why in a sport where we pride ourselves on our SOTG and general opinion of "play because we enjoy it" rather than "play to win at all costs" do we say part-time students are inellegible? I cannot see how this helps anyone in any way. Surely a student is a student whatever way you look at it and all of us should be entitled to play in student tournys and represent the university we are a member of. Even if in five years time I become a good player (some chance!) and take a part-time course at a university I would hope to be allowed to play student games again. Because I would be a student. Maybe in the Mythago v Mowhawks example it was slightly different - were the inellegible players attending Sussex at the time? If so, I'd say let them play. Oxbridge let foreigners row for them against each other, why do we have to limit the people who can play for us? This seems to me to have no practical use, please correct me if I've missed something. Also, who knows of these rules in their first tournament? I've played for two years and this is the first I've heard of part-time students being inelligible. Where do you find these things out? I've no idea and didn't think there was any real need to as for the most part I've experienced nothing but commmon sense prevailing in ultimate. Hoping I don't sound too self-righteous, Angie (Skunks) PS We didn't use any part-time students in the SW qualifiers! On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:52 +0000 (GMT) Ben Booth wrote: > I agree that eligibility rules should exist, and that once there they > should be used. While I think its reasonable to expect established teams > - like Bears, Muncic and Ow - to be aware of these rules and abide by > them, the problem arose with the new sides. The Midlands qualifiers saw a > record 28 teams entered. Many of them have never competed at that level > before and most of these teams were completly new to us. > > How many of us could have quoted the student eligilbility rule before this > tournament - I couldn't. I rely on the more experienced members of my > team to be on top of this. But there isn't that history of of playing in > Student competions in the 6-8 new teams who played last weekend. GBH > hasn't a team trained by an old frisbee hand but a bunch of folk who > decieded that they wanted to play and got themselves there - and into the > final of the qualifiers. > > With GBH disqualified, we all lost out, GBH, Bears and student ultimate. > If new teams are out there and are going to come into the sport and put > forward serious challanges - we need to ensure that they are aware of the > situation before the semi-final stage of the competition. This need to be > a wake up call to the student body that we need to ensure that new teams > are aware of the situation before hand. Who failed in this situation GBH > for not checking meticulously enough or Student ultimate for not ensuring > that they were aware. > > Ben Booth('s two pence) > > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, ANDY COTGREAVE wrote: > > > GBH, > > The eligibility rules should exist, and should be in place. Several years > > ago, Mohawks beat Mythago in the Outdoor Student Finals. Three weeks later, > > they were stripped of the title because they fielded students from overseas > > - it so happened that those players *did* make a difference: there wasn't > > much argument to be made. > > > > You ask for leniency in your case, but as Tim pointed out, *you* should have > > known the rules, and *you* should have made it clear to the TD, at the start > > of the tournament, that you wished to see some flexibility in the rules. > > > > It's harsh, but you cannot blame someone else for your own inability to read > > the eligibility rules. They are there for very good reasons. Yeah, Spirit > > can be applied, but Spirit means playing by the rules, just as much as it > > means playing with silly hats on, or getting pissed in the bar. > > > > Andy Cotgreave > > Chevron > > (and I was on the Mythago team that "won" the student nationals that year, > > too!) > > > > > > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or > > disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only > > for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and > > therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > > message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and > > not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and > > any attachments. > > > > > ---------------------- andy cox ajc298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 12:01:17 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCC0Ev05755 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:00:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCC0D805741 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:00:13 GMT Received: from angelo.kcl.ac.uk (root@angelo.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.66.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCC07Y13067 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:00:07 GMT Received: from str15a-10.paws.kcl.ac.uk (str15a-10.paws.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.175.165]) by angelo.kcl.ac.uk with ESMTP id eBCC05t00573; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:00:06 GMT From: John Taylor Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:59:49 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 5.1 Build (9) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick one, honest, Could someone please let me know where I can find the complete set of rules for student ultimate, and ultimate in general for that matter. Although this is my third year of ultimate, its my first year of actually running the team. And although Kings were never going to challenge for a final place at the SE qualifiers, so it doesn't really matter, if a "part-time" student had turned up to training I would definately have brought him along, completely unaware that I was 'cheating'. I just think it would be a good idea to clarify things now to avoid people like myself inadvertantly walking through red tape. Thanks in advance, John (KCL) On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:39:24 +0000 (GMT) andy cox wrote: > Sorry guys, time for another tuppence-worth. > > Why in a sport where we pride ourselves on our SOTG and > general opinion of "play because we enjoy it" rather than > "play to win at all costs" do we say part-time students are > inellegible? I cannot see how this helps anyone in any way. > > Surely a student is a student whatever way you look at it > and all of us should be entitled to play in student tournys > and represent the university we are a member of. Even if in > five years time I become a good player (some chance!) and > take a part-time course at a university I would hope to be > allowed to play student games again. Because I would be a > student. Maybe in the Mythago v Mowhawks example it was > slightly different - were the inellegible players attending > Sussex at the time? If so, I'd say let them play. Oxbridge > let foreigners row for them against each other, why do we > have to limit the people who can play for us? This seems to > me to have no practical use, please correct me if I've > missed something. > > Also, who knows of these rules in their first tournament? > I've played for two years and this is the first I've heard > of part-time students being inelligible. Where do you find > these things out? I've no idea and didn't think there was > any real need to as for the most part I've experienced > nothing but commmon sense prevailing in ultimate. > > Hoping I don't sound too self-righteous, > > Angie (Skunks) > > PS We didn't use any part-time students in the SW > qualifiers! > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:09:52 +0000 (GMT) Ben Booth > wrote: > > > I agree that eligibility rules should exist, and that once there they > > should be used. While I think its reasonable to expect established teams > > - like Bears, Muncic and Ow - to be aware of these rules and abide by > > them, the problem arose with the new sides. The Midlands qualifiers saw a > > record 28 teams entered. Many of them have never competed at that level > > before and most of these teams were completly new to us. > > > > How many of us could have quoted the student eligilbility rule before this > > tournament - I couldn't. I rely on the more experienced members of my > > team to be on top of this. But there isn't that history of of playing in > > Student competions in the 6-8 new teams who played last weekend. GBH > > hasn't a team trained by an old frisbee hand but a bunch of folk who > > decieded that they wanted to play and got themselves there - and into the > > final of the qualifiers. > > > > With GBH disqualified, we all lost out, GBH, Bears and student ultimate. > > If new teams are out there and are going to come into the sport and put > > forward serious challanges - we need to ensure that they are aware of the > > situation before the semi-final stage of the competition. This need to be > > a wake up call to the student body that we need to ensure that new teams > > are aware of the situation before hand. Who failed in this situation GBH > > for not checking meticulously enough or Student ultimate for not ensuring > > that they were aware. > > > > Ben Booth('s two pence) > > > > > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, ANDY COTGREAVE wrote: > > > > > GBH, > > > The eligibility rules should exist, and should be in place. Several years > > > ago, Mohawks beat Mythago in the Outdoor Student Finals. Three weeks later, > > > they were stripped of the title because they fielded students from overseas > > > - it so happened that those players *did* make a difference: there wasn't > > > much argument to be made. > > > > > > You ask for leniency in your case, but as Tim pointed out, *you* should have > > > known the rules, and *you* should have made it clear to the TD, at the start > > > of the tournament, that you wished to see some flexibility in the rules. > > > > > > It's harsh, but you cannot blame someone else for your own inability to read > > > the eligibility rules. They are there for very good reasons. Yeah, Spirit > > > can be applied, but Spirit means playing by the rules, just as much as it > > > means playing with silly hats on, or getting pissed in the bar. > > > > > > Andy Cotgreave > > > Chevron > > > (and I was on the Mythago team that "won" the student nationals that year, > > > too!) > > > > > > > > > STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or > > > disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only > > > for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and > > > therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this > > > message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and > > > not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and > > > any attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > andy cox > ajc298@soton.ac.uk > ---------------------- John Taylor john.e.taylor@kcl.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 14:49:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCEkOL05710 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCEkM805688 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f131.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCEkLN01242 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:22 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:46:15 -0800 Received: from 208.249.92.139 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 14:46:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.249.92.139] Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com From: "Helen Myers" To: theraj@supaman.com, student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:46:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2000 14:46:15.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[47257AD0:01C0644A] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I could maybe arrange for us to vote on it over here in Florida!! You may get a result by Nationals 2005 ... Just to say "Merry Christmas" to all those who still remember me ... wishing you all the very best for 2001 ... hopefully I can make it back in the summer for a tournament or two ... Take care. Love, Helen x From: "rjdesai" Reply-To: "rjdesai" To: , Subject: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 21:08:47 -0800 Hi All, As Captain of GBH - I'd like to get the first word in on the decision not to allow GBH to qualify for nationals. The decision was made just prior to the final (GBH v. Ow! 1) due to one (of nine) of my players being classified as not sufficiently 'full time' a student to be elligible to take part thus disqualifying the entire team from nationals. This we feel is a totally unfair decision for numerous reasons. Firstly, the player in question is a beginner of this academic term and played (in our key games) a maximum of a couple of points . He therefore made no difference what so ever to us qualifying. Secondly, this issue was raised only once we had displaced Bears 1 (Sunday morning), thereby preventing them from qualifying, and beaten Mwnci See 1, for a place in the final, if it had been raised earlier we would of course have removed our "part time" student (which would have made no difference to the result) immediately and we would have been elligible to qualify. We felt the issue was raised not on grounds of fairness, as any team playing us would have seen the player in question was there more to watch then to play, but because we displaced a team which was expected to win. We attended the tournament with the best of intentions and I can testify my players played with a lot of enthusiam and spirit. This decision goes no way to reciprocating this. I understand the need to have a fixed rule but I can see no justification, in a specific case as this, for a decision to go against what is clearly the right and fair thing to do. This is GBH s first and probably last year of student Ultimate. We trained hard and that paid of in Loughborough but unreasonable decisions such as this are what demoralise new teams and in no way help the development of the sport. I think further discussion of this issue is in order before a decision is made. Also, in future when new teams such as our own enter clarification should be given on such points and should not have to be especially sought since as shown here; how were we supposed to know a part time student is not a student in the eyes of student ulitimate? - the onus should be on those in the game to help new sides not for them to disqualify them on an obscure technicality as here. I hope the decision will be reversed in light of this. Yours, Raj GBH / GB Junior _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 15:53:26 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCFqEp11730 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCFqD811713 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:13 GMT Received: from ox.rmplc.co.uk (mail@ox.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCFq6Y23199 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:12 GMT Received: from mx0.nmh.ifl.net ([194.238.48.13] helo=mx0.ifl.net) by ox.rmplc.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #12) id 145rin-0007oR-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:05 +0000 Received: from rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net (hercules.rmplc.co.uk [194.238.48.90]) by mx0.ifl.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBCFq5J10151 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:52:05 GMT Received: by rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:51:59 -0000 Message-ID: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270808D0D4@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> From: ANDY COTGREAVE To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:51:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Angie, You asked where the inelgible students were from. Paris,France, as far as I remember! Andy STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore RM does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of RM. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 17:16:54 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCHFKO27842 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:15:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCHFH827774 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:15:17 GMT Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCHFCN03480 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:15:12 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst431.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.93]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eBCHF6806275; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:15:06 GMT Message-ID: <3A365D19.5CE15E3@york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 17:15:05 +0000 From: Jaimie Cross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc , student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Midland Qualifiers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBCHFH827775 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, I think it unfair that a decision has already been 'made' in regards to the eligibility of students. After Catch-22 pulled out of Tour 2, it was some weeks (standard disclaimer: bad memory) before a final decision was reached which (surely not) changed the rules that had been decided on before Tour 1. Similarly, can there not now be some discussion on this point culminating in a fair and spirited decision. I met Raj at Junior outdoors in Shropshire this year. He'd played for juniors in Minneapolis, but because of the lack of a local team, hadn't been able to play regularly (if at all) since. He came along hoping for a game. After watching him play on the Saturday we were all amazed that he wasn't going to be able to go to Germany (partly for financial reasons, but also because of the atmosphere at the last world's). We managed to convince him to go and promised to all chip in (I paid £100) to pay what he couldn't make up. Believe me it was worth every penny, not only was Raj a major factor for our success in Germany, but it inspired him enough to put a lot of time and effort into getting his friends together to form a team so he could play in the year leading up to University. Yes on his own he managed to convince an (indoor) squads worth of people to take up Ultimate. So lets all thank Raj and help him with his commendable work! NO, fuck that, lets kick him and his team-mates out for a minor indiscretion (no, not Lewinski minor), and never see most of them play Ultimate again. Yeah, good decision. If you have a problem with the Mike Grant-esque part timer, then simply tell him that he can't play at Nationals and see how much of a difference that makes. Or is that too sensible a decision. Rant over, for now. Jaimie Cross Leeds BTW York had a similar part-timer in our team this year, but no one had an issue with that. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 19:28:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCJNIF09062 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:23:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCJNG809046 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:23:16 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCJNFY24627 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:23:16 GMT Received: from dadscomp ([213.104.232.99]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20001212192303.MZDY16684.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@dadscomp>; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:23:03 +0000 Message-ID: <005d01c06471$1972a640$63e868d5@dadscomp> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BritDisc" , References: <3A365D19.5CE15E3@york.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Midland Qualifiers Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:24:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jaime I don't think you are particularly helping Raj, and several others have mentioned "inexperience" up until this point, but like Jaimie pointed out, Raj has been playing for at least 3 years at a good level. There were also several members of the GBH squad who I recognised, that have been playing for a similar period (I doubt a new team would qualify for nationals). I do believe one of them should have at least checked on the eligibility rules before entering just to make sure and I don't feel inexperience should be an excuse for this side. Saying that, I would like to know where these eligibility rules are printed. I'm under the impression that there are no hard rules for this and I think we ought to have something drawn up to stop further confusion. These rules are important to make sure teams don't feel hard done by. Raj, the point you're making saying that your ineligible player did not have any influence on the result I find to be a little short sighted. Just the presence of the player effects the game. It allows you to rest better players, he has the attention of opposition players when on a field and he can encourage players from the sideline. You cannot say a player has had no impact on the event. The similar fault exists in footballs offside rule (a bit of a tangent but it proves my point I think!?!), where players are allowed to be offside if they are not in an active area of the pitch. On many occasions this has proven to be a faulty rule as a player on a pitch is never in an inactive are. If one player is wandering back from an offside position on the right wing and a pass is put through to a striker in a central position (the striker being onside at that point of the pass) most linesmen would not give the offside, but in many situations the defenders will "step up" or hold their run back because they see the offside player on the right wing. So although the winger was considered inactive he did influence other players actions leading to a advantage. Sorry, it was a round about description but hopefully you get the idea, there are no inactive players. No matter how little influence you may think they have had, they have still been an influence. I personally feel that part time students should not be allowed to take part in student ultimate as this is one way teams could take an unfair/unspirited advantage in events. I have had a student team previously suggest to me that I ought to take a part-time course or night class at their uni, so that I could play for their team at student events (though I doubt it would have helped them qualify). The fact is some are suggesting this should be within the rules yet it is option which could be abused. Don't get me wrong, I do believe there ought to be spirit towards new teams to help them develop. I too met Raj before worlds this year and was amongst those that wanted him to take part. I also know of the lack of Ultimate in his area and I'm very glad he now has a team going, but spirit towards teams should not extend quite so far as to deprive another team of a place it deserved and would have attained legally. One thing I can say in favour of GBH was that the timing of eligibility being raised as an issue was very late in the tournament and a little unspirited. Several teams had asked amongst themselves how eligible GBH were for a lot of the tournament, but no one had taken the matter further because most of the "big" teams assumed they'd beat them. Only when these teams lost there games against them (and as a result their place at nationals) did they actually go to the event organisers and make their concerns known. To sum up (sorry about the length of this mail) I think the rules need to be set in stone and all teams, no matter how new, should have to stick to them. That's my pennies in, good look GBH at open regionals, Matt PS. Another similar issue, what happens if I'm at uni but my institution does not have an ultimate team? Am I able to play for the nearest student ultimate team and compete with them at student events? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaimie Cross To: BritDisc ; Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Midland Qualifiers > All, > > I think it unfair that a decision has already been 'made' in regards to > the eligibility of students. After Catch-22 pulled out of Tour 2, it was > some weeks (standard disclaimer: bad memory) before a final decision was > reached which (surely not) changed the rules that had been decided on > before Tour 1. Similarly, can there not now be some discussion on this > point culminating in a fair and spirited decision. > I met Raj at Junior outdoors in Shropshire this year. He'd played for > juniors in Minneapolis, but because of the lack of a local team, hadn't > been able to play regularly (if at all) since. He came along hoping for > a game. After watching him play on the Saturday we were all amazed that > he wasn't going to be able to go to Germany (partly for financial > reasons, but also because of the atmosphere at the last world's). We > managed to convince him to go and promised to all chip in (I paid £100) > to pay what he couldn't make up. > Believe me it was worth every penny, not only was Raj a major factor for > our success in Germany, but it inspired him enough to put a lot of time > and effort into getting his friends together to form a team so he could > play in the year leading up to University. Yes on his own he managed to > convince an (indoor) squads worth of people to take up Ultimate. > So lets all thank Raj and help him with his commendable work! > NO, fuck that, lets kick him and his team-mates out for a minor > indiscretion (no, not Lewinski minor), and never see most of them play > Ultimate again. > Yeah, good decision. > If you have a problem with the Mike Grant-esque part timer, then simply > tell him that he can't play at Nationals and see how much of a > difference that makes. Or is that too sensible a decision. > Rant over, for now. > > Jaimie Cross > Leeds > > BTW York had a similar part-timer in our team this year, but no one had > an issue with that. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 21:05:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCL2lr27303 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:02:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCL2j827292 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:02:46 GMT Received: from mtcmta03.totalserve.net ([213.27.0.17]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCL2jN06193 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:02:45 GMT Received: from default ([213.27.33.87]) by mtcmta03.totalserve.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G5H3UO01.3XF; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:04:00 +0000 Message-ID: <004301c0647e$a4c7fa80$57211bd5@default> From: "Alastair Findlay" To: "Jaimie Cross" Cc: References: <3A365D19.5CE15E3@york.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Midland Qualifiers Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:01:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think this situation needs a mountain load of spirit applied to it. Ultimate, like any other sport, has rules that govern the way we should play the game. But we also have SOTG which means that we should apply them in the manner in which they were intended to apply and not rely on the exact wordings of each and every rule in order to win a game. This i think has relevance to the situation we are now in. In my opinion the part-time/full time student rule (I think the discussions on what is a full-time student are pretty irrelevant) was introduced to stop experienced players who just so happen to be doing a part time course playing student Ultimate for the nearest uni. An example I have from down here in Brighton is that this year "Mental" Ben Rolfe from Nightfever (hope you don't mind me using your name Ben) is this year doing a part time course at a college in Brighton and holds a NUS card. If part time students were allowed to play he could legitiamtley play for the Mohawks and would have probably got into an already strong first team. I'm sure there are numerous other examples up and down the country. Which brings us back to the problem at hand. I do not believe that this rule was introduced in order to catch out teams who unintenionnally field part time students (I'm not saying that GBH unintenionally fielded a part time student, I wasn't there so I can't comment on that aspect). My final angle on this would be Did a) GBH intenionally field an ineligible player and b) did this ineligible player significantly change the outcome of any one match. If the powers that be can honestly answer No to both of these questions then I think that the original result should stand. ALi (ex) mohawks p.s There is of course another factor in this argument, namely that the person on whom it rested upon to make this decision, was actually at the tournament (I presume it was Tim Blair). Would there have been the same result if the protests had all occured after the event!!!!! p.p.s Matt. If you want info about the "playing for your closest team" debate, I suggest you join the student e-groups list. The ULU debacle should provide more that enough info on that subject. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaimie Cross" To: "BritDisc" ; Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Midland Qualifiers All, I think it unfair that a decision has already been 'made' in regards to the eligibility of students. After Catch-22 pulled out of Tour 2, it was some weeks (standard disclaimer: bad memory) before a final decision was reached which (surely not) changed the rules that had been decided on before Tour 1. Similarly, can there not now be some discussion on this point culminating in a fair and spirited decision. I met Raj at Junior outdoors in Shropshire this year. He'd played for juniors in Minneapolis, but because of the lack of a local team, hadn't been able to play regularly (if at all) since. He came along hoping for a game. After watching him play on the Saturday we were all amazed that he wasn't going to be able to go to Germany (partly for financial reasons, but also because of the atmosphere at the last world's). We managed to convince him to go and promised to all chip in (I paid £100) to pay what he couldn't make up. Believe me it was worth every penny, not only was Raj a major factor for our success in Germany, but it inspired him enough to put a lot of time and effort into getting his friends together to form a team so he could play in the year leading up to University. Yes on his own he managed to convince an (indoor) squads worth of people to take up Ultimate. So lets all thank Raj and help him with his commendable work! NO, fuck that, lets kick him and his team-mates out for a minor indiscretion (no, not Lewinski minor), and never see most of them play Ultimate again. Yeah, good decision. If you have a problem with the Mike Grant-esque part timer, then simply tell him that he can't play at Nationals and see how much of a difference that makes. Or is that too sensible a decision. Rant over, for now. Jaimie Cross Leeds BTW York had a similar part-timer in our team this year, but no one had an issue with that. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 21:40:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCLc4I15604 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:38:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCLc2815587 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:38:02 GMT Received: from eagle.eng.warwick.ac.uk (eagle [137.205.144.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCLc2N22679 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:38:02 GMT Received: from pces624 (pces624 [137.205.146.112]) by eagle.eng.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA29454; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:37:49 GMT From: "Andrew Tucker" To: , Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:37:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision Reply-to: Andrew.Tucker@warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: <3A369AA7.12785.B9E0203@localhost> In-reply-to: <005d01c06471$1972a640$63e868d5@dadscomp> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't want to get involved in the particulars of this case, but I have been involved in student ultimate on and off for 8 years (gulp!), and I don't think that in any of those 8 years there hasn't been some sort of frantic debate involving student eligibility issues.To make matters worse this issue always seems to be raised just after a tournament as a result of some sort of controversial result, and so is never discussed outside the narrow boundaries of a certain team's viewpoint. But each year if it's not about part-time students, then it's post-graduates, or juniors, or students who go to a university without an ultimate team, or foreigners or whatever.... I could go on. For some time I have strongly advocated that student ultimate has grown to such an extent, that it should now become a strictly inter- university competition run along the lines adopted by BUSA. Obviously we all know that student ultimate for various reasons is not a BUSA sport, but it would be very easy for us to adopt their eligibility criteria, which both for individuals and institutions clear up very effectively all these difficult issues for us. These are readily available and would bring ultimate inline with every other university sport. Admittedly these rules are fairly strict, but I see that as part of their advantage. Unfortunately it seems eligibility is an issue that has repeatedly shown itself too difficult to rely on some vague interpretation of spirit. Luckily there are now enough non-student tournaments being run that those teams or individuals who might be made ineligible can still play plenty of great and competitive ultimate against a wide variety of student and non-student opposition. Otherwise I can inevitably see this debate annually re-occuring and more otherwise great student tournaments also becoming unfortunately soured in a similar way..... Andy Tucker (Norm) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 21:40:39 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCLbm515464 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:37:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCLbk815449 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:37:46 GMT Received: from [192.251.30.171] (svvan340.sierrasys.com [192.251.30.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBCLbcY09512 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:37:40 GMT Received: from svvan2100.sierrasys.com by [192.251.30.171] via smtpd (for mail-relay-1.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.128.7]) with SMTP; 12 Dec 2000 21:37:38 UT Received: by scvanex1.sierrasys.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:37:58 -0800 Message-ID: <2417BD0B3A2D5A4086512AD8BDDB1D4EB0A533@scvanex1.sierrasys.com> From: "Munro, Cassandra" To: BritDisc , student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Midland Qualifiers Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 13:37:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc folks, it's been fun/amusing seeing this debate. I don't know if I missed a vital point somewhere, or maybe I just have a different view of Frisbee coming from a different part of the world, but I sure am curious to know why a part time student is considered to give a team an unfair advantage? Is it because they go to school part time and work part time that their ultimate skills are somehow enhanced? Anyway, the rules that are being quoted about the eligibility/ineligibility of certain types of students - are these the WFDF rules? I see others asking where to find these rules, I am also curious to see them. Thanks, Cassandra from Vancouver, Canada >"< http://vul.bc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Lowe [mailto:matthew.lowe@ntlworld.com] Sent: December 12, 2000 11:24 AM To: BritDisc; student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Re: Midland Qualifiers Jaime I don't think you are particularly helping Raj, and several others have mentioned "inexperience" up until this point, but like Jaimie pointed out, Raj has been playing for at least 3 years at a good level. There were also several members of the GBH squad who I recognised, that have been playing for a similar period (I doubt a new team would qualify for nationals). I do believe one of them should have at least checked on the eligibility rules before entering just to make sure and I don't feel inexperience should be an excuse for this side. Saying that, I would like to know where these eligibility rules are printed. I'm under the impression that there are no hard rules for this and I think we ought to have something drawn up to stop further confusion. These rules are important to make sure teams don't feel hard done by. Raj, the point you're making saying that your ineligible player did not have any influence on the result I find to be a little short sighted. Just the presence of the player effects the game. It allows you to rest better players, he has the attention of opposition players when on a field and he can encourage players from the sideline. You cannot say a player has had no impact on the event. The similar fault exists in footballs offside rule (a bit of a tangent but it proves my point I think!?!), where players are allowed to be offside if they are not in an active area of the pitch. On many occasions this has proven to be a faulty rule as a player on a pitch is never in an inactive are. If one player is wandering back from an offside position on the right wing and a pass is put through to a striker in a central position (the striker being onside at that point of the pass) most linesmen would not give the offside, but in many situations the defenders will "step up" or hold their run back because they see the offside player on the right wing. So although the winger was considered inactive he did influence other players actions leading to a advantage. Sorry, it was a round about description but hopefully you get the idea, there are no inactive players. No matter how little influence you may think they have had, they have still been an influence. I personally feel that part time students should not be allowed to take part in student ultimate as this is one way teams could take an unfair/unspirited advantage in events. I have had a student team previously suggest to me that I ought to take a part-time course or night class at their uni, so that I could play for their team at student events (though I doubt it would have helped them qualify). The fact is some are suggesting this should be within the rules yet it is option which could be abused. Don't get me wrong, I do believe there ought to be spirit towards new teams to help them develop. I too met Raj before worlds this year and was amongst those that wanted him to take part. I also know of the lack of Ultimate in his area and I'm very glad he now has a team going, but spirit towards teams should not extend quite so far as to deprive another team of a place it deserved and would have attained legally. One thing I can say in favour of GBH was that the timing of eligibility being raised as an issue was very late in the tournament and a little unspirited. Several teams had asked amongst themselves how eligible GBH were for a lot of the tournament, but no one had taken the matter further because most of the "big" teams assumed they'd beat them. Only when these teams lost there games against them (and as a result their place at nationals) did they actually go to the event organisers and make their concerns known. To sum up (sorry about the length of this mail) I think the rules need to be set in stone and all teams, no matter how new, should have to stick to them. That's my pennies in, good look GBH at open regionals, Matt PS. Another similar issue, what happens if I'm at uni but my institution does not have an ultimate team? Am I able to play for the nearest student ultimate team and compete with them at student events? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaimie Cross To: BritDisc ; Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Midland Qualifiers > All, > > I think it unfair that a decision has already been 'made' in regards to > the eligibility of students. After Catch-22 pulled out of Tour 2, it was > some weeks (standard disclaimer: bad memory) before a final decision was > reached which (surely not) changed the rules that had been decided on > before Tour 1. Similarly, can there not now be some discussion on this > point culminating in a fair and spirited decision. > I met Raj at Junior outdoors in Shropshire this year. He'd played for > juniors in Minneapolis, but because of the lack of a local team, hadn't > been able to play regularly (if at all) since. He came along hoping for > a game. After watching him play on the Saturday we were all amazed that > he wasn't going to be able to go to Germany (partly for financial > reasons, but also because of the atmosphere at the last world's). We > managed to convince him to go and promised to all chip in (I paid £100) > to pay what he couldn't make up. > Believe me it was worth every penny, not only was Raj a major factor for > our success in Germany, but it inspired him enough to put a lot of time > and effort into getting his friends together to form a team so he could > play in the year leading up to University. Yes on his own he managed to > convince an (indoor) squads worth of people to take up Ultimate. > So lets all thank Raj and help him with his commendable work! > NO, fuck that, lets kick him and his team-mates out for a minor > indiscretion (no, not Lewinski minor), and never see most of them play > Ultimate again. > Yeah, good decision. > If you have a problem with the Mike Grant-esque part timer, then simply > tell him that he can't play at Nationals and see how much of a > difference that makes. Or is that too sensible a decision. > Rant over, for now. > > Jaimie Cross > Leeds > > BTW York had a similar part-timer in our team this year, but no one had > an issue with that. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 12 23:17:11 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBCNDFh02652 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:13:15 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCNDD802623 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:13:13 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBCNCtY03147 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:13:12 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 145yaa-000EwN-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:12:06 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:11:48 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision References: <005d01c06471$1972a640$63e868d5@dadscomp> <3A369AA7.12785.B9E0203@localhost> In-Reply-To: <3A369AA7.12785.B9E0203@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Norm mentioned BUSA rules... and it reminded me that I _think_ I've seen an email on Britdisc, in the not so distant past, saying that the BUSA eligibility rules _are_ applied to Ultimate (as an effort to make Ultimate more BUSA-friendly) even though it's not (yet) a BUSA sport. I could, however, be wrong... Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 01:50:16 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBD1mOP15003 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:48:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBD1mK814977 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:48:20 GMT Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBD1m5N05562 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:48:05 GMT Received: from sable.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.4]) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14611Y-0003rq-00; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:48:04 +0000 Received: from worc0587 (helo=localhost) by sable.ox.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14611Y-0008H1-00; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:48:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 01:48:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Gareth Lloyd To: ANDY COTGREAVE cc: "'rjdesai'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: RE: [student-ultimate] Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decis ion In-Reply-To: <41F16105E0DAD211AE8A0008C7A4F1270808D0D2@rmexchange.internal.rmplc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In GBH's deffense...what rules published where? I know they exist...and have read them a couple of years ago and have played by them. However, where are they for a new team to read? If not published maybe they should have been sent to GBH when they entered the regional qualifiers. I think it is a shame that GBH lose the chance to go to nationals and would really like to see them there as they are a team with a lot of potential. Personally, I would like to see an exception made this time as the player in question was a 'part time' student and how is a new team supposed to know the exact rules if they are not published or distributed. Just my views on the issue. Gary (OW!) > It's harsh, but you cannot blame someone else for your own inability to read > the eligibility rules. They are there for very good reasons. Yeah, Spirit > can be applied, but Spirit means playing by the rules, just as much as it > means playing with silly hats on, or getting pissed in the bar. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 13:19:56 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDDGbh24104 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDDGZ824087 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:35 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDDGJY11588 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:19 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26704 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:14 GMT Received: from B45A-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45a-02.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.6]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id eBDDGDf25906 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:14 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Subject: For those arriving in Southampton on Friday night Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:16:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For those coming down on Friday night we will be in the Varsity pub if you wish to join us, directions as follows: >From the M3 follow signs for Southampton A33 (not Southampton Docks). Follow the A33 (Bassett Ave.) through 2 roundabouts to a major intersection (with the University's Medical and Biological Sciences building to your left). Follow this road into a 30mph area after which you will come to a set of traffic lights (with Forte Travelodge on your left), carry straight over and follow the road round to the right, take the first exit after this (you should have a solicitors and Royal Bank of Scotland on your left). You should be able to see the VARSITY pub on the first road on your left. If coming from the west, the 4th exit. Follow the A335 dual carriageway through 2 sets of traffic lights. At the 3rd set, the road divides. Turn right onto Burgess Road (McDonald's will be on your left). Carry along this road through 3 sets of traffic lights at the 4th (with the University's Medical and Biological Sciences building to your right)turn left this will get you on to A33 follow this road into a 30mph limit... (see above) Hope that this makes sense, any problems I will have my mobile with me: 07799065713 Cheers Sally (Skunks) ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 13:37:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDDaqB05559 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:36:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDDao805537 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:36:50 GMT Received: from pat.bath.ac.uk (pat.bath.ac.uk [138.38.32.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDDanY24442 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:36:49 GMT Received: from ss1.bath.ac.uk ([138.38.32.41] helo=bath.ac.uk ident=mmdf) by pat.bath.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 146C5P-0006Cz-00; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:36:47 +0000 Received: from bucspc-lc3-112.pc.bath.ac.uk by ss1.bath.ac.uk id aa02403; 13 Dec 100 13:36 GMT From: Rich Dean Shelmerdine To: "Munro, Cassandra" Cc: BritDisc , student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: Re: RE: [student-ultimate] Midland Qualifiers In-Reply-To: <2417BD0B3A2D5A4086512AD8BDDB1D4EB0A533@scvanex1.sierrasys.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:36:44 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk okay - to join in this debate (but keeping it very brief). i took up our brilliant sport only 2months ago, when i came to uni. i had heard about it before, but never had the opportunity to start it. back home, the only team within 50miles was at the uni but i couldn't have played for them as i wasn't a student! i might have been able to play many years ago, but for this fact! my point is that, like one of my other sports (trials mountain biking), the more people we can get involved, the better it will be for all! i don't see why it shouldn't be opened up to more people. and i say this having been amazed and thoroughly delighted at the attitude and spirit between all players (i have not seen another sport yet with such an overall friendly attitude). surely we should open up out arms and welcome new players - i for one wish that i'd started earlier! i'll leave it there (i mean, what do i know - i am only started this lark very recently). hmm - should there be a limit to the length of time you have had to be a student? dean - blt. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 14:17:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDEFo028538 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:15:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDEFn828517 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:15:49 GMT Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBDEFlY19117 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:15:47 GMT Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:15:06 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:14:59 +0000 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Warwick Indoors pickup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBDEFn828520 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If any teams could do with an extra player for the Warwick Indoors please let me know as I'd like to play. I'm a 20 year old handler, unfit with almost 4 years experience of ultimate. I hope one of you can help, Matt teamless matthew.lowe@ntlworld.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 15:13:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDFBug29059 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:11:56 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDFBs829037 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:11:54 GMT Received: from server-40.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBDFBqN15633 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:11:53 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 23665 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2000 14:53:01 -0000 Received: from mail.kbw.co.uk (HELO aurora.oyster.co.uk) (193.132.201.148) by server-40.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 13 Dec 2000 14:53:01 -0000 Received: by AURORA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:09:40 -0000 Message-ID: <7165D5A55FC4D41184DB00D0B7B9E62D0928D5@AURORA> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Warwick Indoors pickup Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:09:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are you a full or part-time student? Surely people should be obliged to declare their educational status when mailing Britdisc like this. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Lowe [mailto:Matthewl@fisher.co.uk] Sent: 13 December 2000 14:15 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Warwick Indoors pickup If any teams could do with an extra player for the Warwick Indoors please let me know as I'd like to play. I'm a 20 year old handler, unfit with almost 4 years experience of ultimate. I hope one of you can help, Matt teamless matthew.lowe@ntlworld.com _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 15:46:00 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDFhrC19945 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:43:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDFho819896 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:43:50 GMT Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDFhiN29794 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:43:44 GMT Received: from pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:root@pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.27]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id eBDFhel22703; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:43:40 GMT Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA30507; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:43:39 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: pakora.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:43:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Booth To: student-ultimate@egroups.com cc: BritDisc Subject: Re: GBH In-Reply-To: <3A365D19.5CE15E3@york.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sod it! I know I've had my two pence. This essentially comes down to two things: 1) Firstly and most importantly: The rules are there and should be keep to. Did GBH intentionally, knownly ingnore the eligiablilty rule. Did they omit to find the information that would have told them about the eligiability rule? 2)secondly, did fielding the ineligiable player effect the outcome of the game which resulted in them qualifying. OR did he effect the more general result. THAT is the only two questions relevent to this. If the answer is yes to any part then the disqualification should stand. My own gut instinct from watching them play in loughborough is that this player didn't have a significant impact on the qame in question. The first point I find harder to answer. I don't believe that they intentionally fielded him knowing that he was ineligiable, whether they should/could have found out about the rule before hand is harder to answer. Is that information readily available? I suspect that is isn't easy to find out. But perhaps others should answer that question. If this information wasn't readily avaliable. i.e. short of writing a writern letter to some official in the organisation before hand asking for clarification on the point - which I think is too much to have expected - then responsiability for this slip up can't be entirely placed on GBH's shoulders There would therefore be a strong case for reinstatement. Leeds beginners tournament - as I understand it - saw GBH enter much the same team as student qualifiers - they didn't apprechiate that it ment that the players should be complete beginners not the team. The team contained 3 ex GB juniors. When the this was raised with GBH they agreed to forfit all their games. Leeds was unfortunate and I kinda suspect that it lead to the discision on Sunday. The 3 who where ineligiable where playing as eligiable players in the midlands qualifiers - the midlands' ineligiable player was eligiable to play in the beginners tournament in Leeds. It could be argued and has been argued that Leeds should have ment that GBH should have spent more time finding out about eligiablility rules before entering thier second tournament. This goes back to the first point!! Did GBH make themselves suficiently aware, within reason, of the entrance requiremnets. If the answer to that is no then the disqualification should stand. If the answer is yes then we should really consider reinstatement. As I have said I don't feel in the position to answer that - but I suspect that the information isn't readily available. This is the question that we need to answer! Ben OW3 - though again this is very much my thoughts and not OW3's or even OW's - it hasn't been discused as OW is now on holiday. Appologies to those who wheren't part of the midlands Qualifying group or interested in the outcome. I have been trying to sit on my hands these last two days, but it majorly annouys me that a new team has been disqulaified for a technical infringment, that didn't have a major impact on the result, and which they may understandaly not have been aware off. I feel that there may have been a suspicion of GBH because of Leeds which wasn't raised with them until they started beating top seeds. One reason I love ultimate is that there isn't all this bullshit over rules. (But perhaps we need a referee in this case!?!) --- In student-ultimate@egroups.com, "Brendan Cuddihy" wrote: > I've just been reminded of a run-in I had with Raj of GBH over his > fielding ineligable experienced players in the beginners division of > the Sheffield tournament earlier this year, after which they were > forced to concede their games. Odd that! > > Brendan > Jedi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 15:59:10 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDFvst27769 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:57:54 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDFvq827751 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:57:52 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDFvlN05258 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:57:52 GMT Received: from modem-205.eyelash-blennie.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.8.205] helo=jacksoniii) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 146EHp-00052p-00; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:57:45 +0000 From: richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk To: BritDisc , student-ultimate@egroups.com Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:55:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: RE: [student-ultimate] Midland Qualifiers References: <2417BD0B3A2D5A4086512AD8BDDB1D4EB0A533@scvanex1.sierrasys.com> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With this argument going on... I played for Kings this year at student regionals in Sussex. I would like to know if Juniors could play student Ultimate if we decided that it would be ran like a BUSA event???(Tim?) Cheers Richard Jackson aka Jacko/LD GB Juniors/Total Muppets From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 16:32:46 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDGUhi14677 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:30:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDGUf814663 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:30:41 GMT Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDGUVN18025 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:30:36 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst409.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.229]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id eBDGUP807552 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:30:25 GMT Message-ID: <3A37A420.A45B84FD@york.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 16:30:24 +0000 From: Jaimie Cross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: GBH References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBDGUf814664 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Having reacted rather in the heat of the moment, I think I may have missed the key point. In this I am assuming that the alleged ineligible player was born in or after 1981. I believe that it was agreed after worlds that 'Juniors' were eligible to play for (their closest) university team. This was of particular interest to me, as my younger brother who is still at school (and not eligible for an NUS card) was interested in playing Ultimate. I therefore e-mailed Tim (Blair) several (at least three) times for clarification, but can't remember receiving the promised ruling (I've probably just forgotten about it). If this is so then we can stop the argument, allow GBH back in and get down to clarifying the rules for next year. Jaimie Leeds PS My brother could have paid £25 for membership of York's AU and played anyway!! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 17:52:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDHoXh28679 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:50:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDHoV828660 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:50:31 GMT Received: from box.digitalasylum.co.uk (box.uu.digitalasylum.co.uk [195.217.170.186]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDHoLN22964 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:50:21 GMT Received: from MORPHEUS (morpheus.uu.digitalasylum.co.uk [195.217.170.161]) by box.digitalasylum.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23395 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:47:36 GMT From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: Subject: RE: GBH Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:52:54 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-reply-to: <3A37A420.A45B84FD@york.ac.uk> Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBDHoW828663 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > PS My brother could have paid £25 for membership of York's AU and played > anyway!! That doesn't make him a student, it merely gives him access to the University facilites. Certainly, he'd not be allowed to play in any BUSA tournaments. Ralf. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 18:31:45 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDIUq714122 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDIUo814106 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:51 GMT Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDIUjY16665 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:50 GMT Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 146Gfr-0000dp-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:43 +0000 Received: from icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.1]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 146Gg5-00058w-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:57 +0000 Received: by icex1.cc.ic.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:42 -0000 Message-ID: From: "White, Tom" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: gbh thang Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:30:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk sup dudes? yeah, bad things happened, but we gotta stick with the rules, cos like tim says: if you make one exception for one team, then you gonna have to do that stuff again. (he prolly said it better). Peeps should just go to egroups (www.egroups.com/group/student-ultimate), and check out tim blairs' (student coordinator) mail what says the shit and how it is. He answered the questions, and sounded pretty cool too. I reckon if y'all wanna get the rules changed to either make student ultimate more wide ranging, or make it only uni or whatever, then email student ultimate ( student-ultimate@egroups.com) , and bring it up at the big meeting thing that happens in the student competition next year. (I dunno what its called, mebbe "student agm"). So, Tim (the head dude) has made his decision, and its done. No more whining on about whether whatever affected whoever, got that kids? laters tom box packer, bottle putter in bagger. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 18:55:30 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDIsk726234 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:54:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDIsi826222 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:54:45 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f247.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.247]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDIsiN07421 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:54:44 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:54:36 -0800 Received: from 62.255.32.4 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:54:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.255.32.4] From: "King Taz" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Midlands Students.. Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:54:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 18:54:36.0784 (UTC) FILETIME=[23B15F00:01C06536] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey all, Having read the countless messages on BD over the last few days regarding GBH etc, as a member of the Bears 1 team that played at the weekend, I wanted to clear up a couple of things. Mainly, the issue implied by some that GBH have been the victim of a sort of 'witch-hunt' because they beat one of the top seeds. After our quarter final with GBH, we were gutted at losing, but congratulated them and wished them the best of luck for the tournament. We did not, as has been loosely insinuated, search for some loophole to see us reinstated into the tournament. The first most of us heard of the issue was five minutes before our next game, against Haze, when it conspired that we might not simply be playing for 5th-8th, but a qualification place. We left the relevant parties involved to discuss GBH's situation and got on with our games. Basically, we did not assert any pressure for a decision to be made against GBH. It is a shame that this seems to have taken the focus away from what was a great, closely fought tournament. Cheers to Haze for putting on a great weekend. We sincerely hope to see GBH at the Regional Qualifiers in the spring, and hope there will be no hard feelings between the two teams. Merry Christmas y'all, Taz (Bears) _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 19:50:04 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDJm5N24093 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:48:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDJm3824075 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:48:04 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f306.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.184]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDJm3N00389 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:48:03 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:47:56 -0800 Received: from 129.252.106.20 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:47:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.252.106.20] From: "Ian Bradshaw" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pickup for warwick tourny Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:47:56 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 19:47:56.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[96FD3180:01C0653D] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all Do any teams want/willing to have a pickup for the Warwick indoors in January. I played for Bears last year, I'm currently on exchange in the US, so I would really like to be able to play at Warwick. I've been playing for a year and a half so I'm not a complete amateur, if anybody out there feels like takeing pity on me please get in touch. Ian University of South Carolina "Flying Squirals" _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 20:35:36 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDKYMm17589 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDKYK817576 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:21 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f270.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.145]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDKYKN19261 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:20 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:34:09 -0800 Received: from 137.82.79.68 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.82.79.68] From: "Aura Mackenzie" To: student-ultimate@egroups.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Midland's Student Qualifier: GBH Decision Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:09 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2000 20:34:09.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BF0DD10:01C06544] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Interesting argument, but things go both ways. Last spring (not so long ago!) I was asked to play in some 'special' student regional outdoor tournament that was somehow short of a team (there were the 5 regional teams and the directors apparently wanted 6, so London was asked to throw together a student team at the last minute - minus all the London players who were already on the SE team). Well, we were a pretty straggly bunch - at least 5 nationalities, and part timers galore (including me, who was working full-time but for part-time credit at my uni back home). Definitely questionable under the rules mentioned in previous emails. However, I honestly thought that I was playing within the rules because I was a part-time student - no one mentioned the 'primary occupation' clause when I was asked to play. Probably everyone else on my team thought they were within the rules too, while now I wonder if even 50% of us were 'legal'. Of note, this wasn't a qualifying tournament. My point is, it would seem to me that A) the student directors are able to exercise some discretion in who they will allow to play at student tournaments, B) if there are rules somewhere governing Student Ultimate over there, I've seen them bent in a BIG way and C) if the rules aren't available, how are you supposed to know you are infringing on them? Take North America for instance (below) which make things exceptionally clear... For all those who expressed interest: To play in a student tournament in Canada or the States you must do a lot of crap. Tournament directors ask for records of uni registration stamped by the Registrar's Office (must be full-time in the States, 60% part-time for Canada) for every player in advance (also meaning traveling teams must be made up several weeks before the tournament) and all players must be able to produce uni photo ID on demand at any time during the tournament. Also, no player can play as a student if their first year of membership to any National ultimate organization (ie BUF) was more than five years ago (to limit experienced players). There are a lot of conflicts about these rules and how they inhibit rookie student teams. Anyway, that my two cents (I know, they're not worth as much). Happy Holidays! Aura Back in Vancouver, Canada _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 13 22:49:25 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBDMliN25848 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:47:44 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDMlg825804 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:47:42 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBDMleN18114 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:47:40 GMT Received: from cs801977.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.177.46] by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #17) id 146KgC-0000aW-00; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:47:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:47:37 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: hdue1@central.susx.ac.uk (Natalie visser) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: student ultimate X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: hdue1@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I have also been a bit amused by the debate, and now that we are entering the 'exclusion' why's, I have to ask why student ultimate, is mainly male. Shouldn't we be discussing how to include more people instead of how to exclude them? thanks. Natalie Visser From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 05:01:53 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBE4xIv04055 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 04:59:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBE4xH804041 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 04:59:17 GMT Received: from infoviaplus.net.ar (adv18.infoviaplus.net.ar [200.9.212.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBE4xFN21066 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 04:59:15 GMT Received: from np ([209.13.201.171]) by infoviaplus.net.ar (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #976758284.049640001; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:44:44 -0300 To: grupo@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: mcgltda@infovia.com.ar Subject: About spamming Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:50:08 -0300 Message-Id: <36873.951485532408700.9809@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Infomail-Spawn: mcgltda@infovia.com.ar a 500 destinos X-Infomail-Id: 976758284.136401AC1E039F.18284 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, Many thanks by its interes. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 11:35:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBEBWjk18831 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEBWf818760 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:41 GMT Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail2.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEBWfN09781 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:41 GMT Received: from heraldgate2.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.50] helo=frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 146Wcq-0006Jc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:40 +0000 Received: from dhcp44.sant.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.233.75] helo=usr090b.sant.ox.ac.uk) by frontend2.herald.ox.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 146Wcr-0007RE-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:32:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c065c1$f9bed2e0$4be901a3@sant.ox.ac.uk> From: "Justin O. Parkhurst" To: Subject: Need a player this weekend? Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:35:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all I was wondering if any teams are looking to pick up a player this weekend at Southampton. In case you care - I've been playing for around 3+ years now in Oxford - for OW! (1st team) and Sharks - as well as the occasional beach-hat tour. Please reply to my e-mail address, as I am not subscribed to Britdisc. Cheers -Justin -------------------------------------------- Justin Parkhurst St. Antony's College Oxford OX2 6JF justin.parkhurst@sant.ox.ac.uk --------------------------------------------- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 11:47:51 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBEBl7l24136 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:47:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEBl5824117 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:47:05 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.24]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEBkpY29023 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:46:52 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 03:46:42 -0800 Received: from 193.145.114.81 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:46:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.145.114.81] From: "valerio iani" To: frisbee_dk@egroups.com, EuroDisc@ira.uka.de, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, itadisc@egroups.com Subject: Dr.SAND&Mr.GRASS tenerife tournament Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:46:42 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2000 11:46:42.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[87232770:01C065C3] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk
 
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 12:00:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBEBxqP27175 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEBxp827166 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:51 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEBxpN12965 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:51 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 146X38-000Bx5-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:50 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 146X37-0000eW-01; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:50 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:16 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Need a player this weekend? Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:59:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk alles klar -Justin :-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 15:46:31 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBEFhon13442 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEFhm813433 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:48 GMT Received: from polaris.bmpddb.com (gatekeeper.bmpddb.com [193.130.32.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBEFhgN28698 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:43 GMT Received: by polaris.bmpddb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:59 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Thursday Night London Training Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:43:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Thursday Night sessions in Victoria have now finished until the new year > (i.e. no session tonight). James and I will send a note out when it is to > restart. > Thanks > Dave > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 14 23:49:37 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBENlTp05371 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:47:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBENlQX05357 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:47:26 GMT Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBENlQx25740 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:47:26 GMT Received: from compulink.co.uk (oubliette.compulink.co.uk [194.153.16.204]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.1/CIX_MySQL/8.11.1) with SMTP id eBENlJV29195 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:47:20 GMT X-Envelope-From: paul@oubliette.cix.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 23:51 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: paul@oubliette.cix.co.uk (Paul Holden) Subject: GBH Ruling To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-To: holden@oubliette.cix.co.uk Message-Id: X-Ameol-Version: 2.52.2000, Windows 98 4.10.2222 ( A ) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't wish to comment on the details of the particular situation as much of the discussion seems to have happened elsewhere. Having seen this type of discussion repeat itself all too often over the years I would say, however, that in every sport in which I have been involved where eligibility criteria were in force all teams entering an event or league were given those criteria or directed to the publication in which they could be found. If you invite teams to an Ultimate tournament and don't specifically direct them otherwise I would expect them to use the WFDF rules of Ultimate which aren't real detailed on UK student eligibility requirements. If you want teams to obey additional rules you should provide those rules to each team in advance otherwise you might as well be making new ones up on the spot. Paul Holden ex Lurkers, ex SLUT, now Slipdisc Birmingham From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 15 19:08:50 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBFJ4Q523065 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:04:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBFJ4PX23059 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:04:25 GMT Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBFJ4Nu03806 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:04:24 GMT Received: from modem-51.amras.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.105.51]) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14709T-0008Ro-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:04:19 +0000 X-Sender: frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk@pop.freeserve.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001201c06108$bbc89010$a87011d4@shaun> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:59:12 +0000 To: "lum" From: Sam Neilson Subject: Re: special request Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >hi, unfortunately i never played with you guys [the Warwick Bears], this >is a request of a different nature. i was at the worlds in germany this >summer and juro, a player from bratislava, showed me a t-shirt he acquired >on trading night. it was one of your older ones. it was a simple stick >figure drawing with a person in a puddle of blood and a bear walking off. >i think it said something like: don't chase bears on it. is there any way >i can get my hands on one of those? i have a girlfriend who plays in >california. she's also a firefighter and a couple of years ago she got >awarded medals for bravery from both the u.s. and canada for chasing off a >bear and resuscitating a female victim. i wouldn't mind having one of your >shirts myself, but above all i'd love to have one for ingrid, this friend >of mine. please let me know if and how. i'd really appreciate it. it >wouldn't have to be new either. thanks. kimi kimi.lum@chello.at Hi Kimi I know the shirt you mean, but I do not have one myself. I'll copy your request onto britdisc and maybe someone can help. ... amazing story! Cheers Sam Neilson From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Dec 17 01:10:49 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBH15xD12004 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:05:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBH15vX11998 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:05:57 GMT Received: from ts-bay-exch-02.talkstar.com (209-128-83-093.bayarea.net [209.128.83.93]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBH15tx25563 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:05:56 GMT Message-Id: <200012170105.eBH15tx25563@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from localhost (chv-nc5a-164.rasserver.net [198.211.90.164]) by ts-bay-exch-02.talkstar.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id Y5P34XTZ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:03:35 -0800 X-Sender: ben@cfxtras.com From: Ben Wilson To: "Claude" Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:03:25 -0500 Subject: Friends and Clients MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_001__2273947_72205.76" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a Multipart MIME message. ------=_NextPart_001__2273947_72205.76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try these out. 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(IDENT:exim@duck.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.46]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBH2Y9x26858 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:34:09 GMT Received: from sync12.doc.ic.ac.uk ([146.169.49.12] ident=tfc97) by duck.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #7) id 147TeG-0002CD-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:34:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:34:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Tom Coerkamp To: Subject: IMPORTANT: Virus In-Reply-To: <200012170105.eBH15tx25563@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Ben Wilson wrote: >Try these out. 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In case you didn't already know, the last message send by Ben Wilson was an incarnation of the I-Worm virus - DO NOT OPEN THE ATTACHMENT - for more details, see http://www.viruslist.com/eng/viruslist.asp?id=4063&key=00001000130000100034 Cheers, TC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 19 12:12:33 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBJC7Dq16335 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:07:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJC7CX16328 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:07:12 GMT Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJC7Bx04060 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:07:11 GMT Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:07:05 +0000 Received: from law-graz.law.bris.ac.uk (graz.law.bris.ac.uk [137.222.84.11]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20637; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:05:39 GMT From: MOJO Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:12:36 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@egroups.com Subject: MYTHAGO Indoors 2001 FULL! Reply-To: scymetar@hotmail.com, jc7775@bristol.ac.uk Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Build (55) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk THE MYTHAGO OPEN TOURNAMENT 2001 is now full - thanks to everyone who showed an interest and apologies to those teams who didn't quite manage enter in time. The lucky participants are: 1 Mythago1 2 M2 3 M3 4 BAF 5 BAF Too 6 Skunks 7 Discult 8 Fever 9 Angels 10 Playthings 11 Sneekys 12 Bath 13 Cardiff 14 UWE 15 Phat Eds 16 Mohawks Details of accomodation and directions will be sent out mid January next year, but can any teams wanting floorspace reply to this message with numbers and days required. Date: February 10-11th, 2001 Venue: Whitchurch Sports Centre, Bristol Contact: Jon Cater (captain) , James Rodgers (vice-captain) [P.S. Martin (Mr Men) if you want your cheque back, could you get in touch please?] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 19 13:17:07 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBJDEHn02883 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:14:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJDEFX02870 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:14:16 GMT Received: from sphmgaaf.compuserve.com (hs-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.177.155]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJDE9u12062 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:14:09 GMT Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by sphmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id IAA06610 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:14:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:13:44 -0500 From: Stuart Clark Subject: Looking for Andy Roberts To: Britdisc Message-ID: <200012190813_MC2-BF1C-C007@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBJDEGX02873 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry BD'ers, Just a quick request - has anyone got an e-mail address or contact phone no. for Andy Roberts a.k.a. Mr Kipling who played with the Simpsons at Southampton. If you could forward it on to me I'd appreciate it. Cheers Stu. BAF #77 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 19 14:09:01 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBJE7Rr14485 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:07:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJE7QX14471 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:07:26 GMT Received: from bws024.hway.co.uk (bws109.hway.co.uk [195.44.57.146]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJE7Iu17814 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:07:20 GMT Received: by BWS024 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:06:46 -0000 Message-ID: <30155F86A2D1D411BA0D00508B8BC4B418975E@BWS024> From: Arun Sharma To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: CONTACT FOR BRADFORD EXPORT Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:05:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C069C4.B2CF7220" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. 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Message-ID: <91r0r1+juik@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 152.163.213.178 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey guys, Sorry to use Britdisc for this, but does anyone have a contact number or e-mail address for Russ who played for Skunks 2 at Southampton last weekend? Cheers, Sarah. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 21 10:25:03 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBLAMYD22597 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:22:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBLAMXX22589 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:22:33 GMT Received: from crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@crocus [137.205.192.13]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBLAMWx24228 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:22:32 GMT Received: from unknown (bc-van-nwt-a53-02-50.look.ca [204.174.249.50]) by crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA21203 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:22:29 GMT From: heesun9@mail.com Message-Id: <200012211022.KAA21203@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> To: Subject: OS Software? Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 01:11:54 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are you interested in Office 2000? 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Developer $65 (Everything Premium has plus Powerful Tools for software developers) MS Project 2000 $30 MS SQL Server 7.0 $50 MS WIndows 95 $15 MS Windows 98 SE $20 MS Windows 2000 Pro $20 MS Windows 2000 Advanced Server $65 MS Windows Millenium (WinME) $20 MS Visio 2000 Server $50 MS Visual Basic 6 Professional $30 MS Visual Studio Enterprise 6.0 $55 (Visual Basic, Foxpro, C++, InterDev, J++) *Other titles available: Corel Draw 10 $30 Macromedia Flash 5 $30 Macromedia Fireworks 4 $30 Macromedia Dreamweaver 4 $30 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 22 10:26:21 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBMAKJ627559 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:20:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBMAKGX27539 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:20:17 GMT Received: from netmail.co.uk (netmail.netmail.co.uk [194.205.11.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBMAK3u21624 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:20:13 GMT Received: from PROXY2 (PROXY2 [194.205.11.21]) by netmail.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.afxy) with ESMTP id ha580613 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:20:12 +0000 Received: from ben [218.99.151.24] by vac.uk.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:19:57 +0000 From: "Ben Rolfe" To: Subject: tv appearance Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 10:19:34 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c06c00$aeb57020$189763da@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: High X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello BritDisc, Any players living in Brighton area: BBC Sport have expressed an interest in making a report on Ultimate. Date for filming looks like Sunday 7th January, now would be a good time to make yourself known to me. Mohawks; will any of you be around over Christmas/NY or have come back by then? Stroke (hope your knees recovering)? James? Madz? Kate? Natatlie "mangos"? Loopy Lewis and Little Rich - u in the area? Voodoo, hope yous on the mend - St. Andrews Boys School, Worthing want to take you on as a coach, you available for the 7th? Their PE teacher and core of their team will be there. Please get in touch asap. (ps Voodoo is injured and may not be at work - anyone got a number for him?). Sorry to hit everyone like this but the beeb sprung this on me yesterday and now I must sort out quick-smart - always a test for me! Cheers, (mental) ben (07771 883769 over holidays - please get in touch if you are available!) PS - I wrote the following (rant) a while ago but never sent it cos I didn't want a flare-up - just some thoughts on the non-student debate, no need for any response but may be something to think about... RULE-MAKERS (is that jus Tim?): please consider: 1) is the game about excluding the young (<17/18), the experienced and the tax-paying? I only do 1 day a week in college, but that's a 9-6 day with 10 hrs home study, by this very real definition of time spent in study, I'm more of a student now than I ever was in my 1st or 2nd year at uni. However I also work and would not have a problem paying a higher subscription or registration fee to the ultimate association (26GBP/year, even 52GBP/year!), the university, the team or whoever, as long as it meant more options to play ultimate! 2) is "student ultimate" about funding? that is a big issue - do teams still get funding if they field a (or multiple) part-timer from another college and they hold a valid NATIONAL UNION OF STUDENTS card? If only 1,2 or 3 part-timers/experienced students were allowed there could be a selection process. 3) Do we want to improve the standard of ultimate play in this country? In which case let's make it as easy as possible for as many people as possible to play as much as possible. Or, as devils advocate, is student ultimate about keeping the numbers and the standard as low as possible? 4) Finally for the rule-makers - do we want University Ultimate or Student Ultimate or both? CHAOS-MAKERS: 1) let the SOTG prevail, does anyone intentionally want to break the rules? If they do their karma not yours. SOTG would want this taken back to thrower, and played out between the contesting teams without the ineligible player, once the rule-makers have decided what ineligible is. That's the first issue, and all BD should be asking themselves - what's our motivation for division and how anal do we want to get over the dividing line? We can thank the 2 Tims and Raj for bringing this into BD-consciousness, conflict isn't always a bad thing - there is no progress without a struggle. 2) If in doubt the decision should rest with the TD - maybe some TD's want to get tough, may be some don't give a fk. If anyone has a suspicion that a player is not a student (his team members should know!) they owe it to all competitors to report this to the TD asap, then s/he can check it out but don't necessarily have to get nanoscopic on the definitions. This is tricky now for Tim B, cos he took responsibility for making an on the spot decision, as opposed to deferring the decision for consideration. 3) When I found I was going back to school I read somewhere that if your college doesn't have a team you can play for the nearest one to you. Now I can't remember where I read this but I did. Sorry for takin so long once Ali F had invited me to comment ;) - what can I say- bit busy what with work and college and ultimate and Christmas and stuff. Thanks also to everyone trying to push the association through - don't give up, British Ultimate needs you! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Dec 22 17:36:38 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBMHUZ229722 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:30:35 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBMHUYX29717 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:30:34 GMT Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBMHUXu01301 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:30:34 GMT Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 149W1X-0007ZC-00; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:30:31 +0000 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 149W1X-0001NB-00; Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:30:31 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, camdisc@egroups.com Subject: Ultimate to finish off the year Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:30:31 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi folks, for anyone who wants to end the year right, there will be an Ultimate session in Cambridge, on Jesus Green, on December 31st (Sunday) from 11am. See you there! David http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate/ Cambridge Ultimate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Dec 23 14:13:32 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBNE8gG06589 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:08:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBNE8eX06577 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:08:40 GMT Received: from b05.egroups.com (b05.egroups.com [208.50.144.96]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id eBNE8Wu24505 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:08:37 GMT X-eGroups-Return: janitoire@yahoo.co.uk Received: from [10.1.10.126] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Dec 2000 14:08:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:07:34 -0000 From: janitoire@yahoo.co.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: looking for Jo Message-ID: <922bj6+5ca0@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 213.120.56.49 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone has any contact details for Jo from juniors/BAF could they please either email them to me or give me a call on my mobile: 07714 142038 cheers, Booboo. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Dec 24 12:59:58 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBOCsJP29392 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:54:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBOCsIX29387 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:54:18 GMT Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBOCsHx14438 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:54:17 GMT Received: from modem-10.pajama-cardinal.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.45.138] helo=computer) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14AAfH-00008Y-00; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:54:16 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c06da7$9cee41c0$8a2d893e@computer> From: "John Schoch" To: , , "David J.C. MacKay" References: Subject: Re: [camdisc] Ultimate to finish off the year Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:22:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Folks, I'm up for it and may bring guests..but please let me know if it looks like slim pickins' so I don't drive all the way out to Cambridge for a non-game! Thanks, and Happy Christmas to all! John From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Dec 26 21:06:02 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBQL0DX10529 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:00:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBQL0BX10523 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:00:11 GMT Received: from postfix2.free.fr (postfix@postfix2.free.fr [212.27.32.74]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBQL06u22262 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:00:11 GMT Received: from [213.228.28.251] (nantes-28-251.dial.proxad.net [213.228.28.251]) by postfix2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52720741C0; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:59:38 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:57:03 +0100 Subject: VERSAILLES INDOOR ULTIMATE OPEN 2001 From: "Friselis Club Versailles" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3060712623_327771_MIME_Part" Message-Id: <20001226205938.52720741C0@postfix2.free.fr> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > CE MESSAGE EST AU FORMAT MIME. Comme votre lecteur de courrier ne comprend pas ce format, il se peut que tout ou partie de ce message soit illisible. --MS_Mac_OE_3060712623_327771_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Frisbee=B9s friends, On the 14th, 15th and 16th of April 2001, the Easter week-end, VERSAILLES=B9 FRISELIS CLUB organises its great : INDOOR ULTIMATE OPEN OPEN DIVISION (+16 years) JUNIORS DIVISION (under 16 years : 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988) All matches will be played in two adjoining gymnasiums. Not less than 36 hours of Ultimate playing are planned. Meaning more 10 matches for each team. The players will be lodged in h=F4tels near of Versailles, about 15 minutes away from the gymnasiums. Organisation costs include civil responsability insurance (+ rapatriation), a party on sunday evening, and a surprise. IMPORTANT : For organisation purposes, we are obliged to limit the numbers of participating teams... - Open division : the first 16 wich will return their inscription fully completed will be registered... - Juniors division : the first 8... We hope to see you soon in Versailles and happy new year. -- FRISELIS CLUB VERSAILLES E-mail : friselis@free.fr Site internet : http://friselis.free.fr --MS_Mac_OE_3060712623_327771_MIME_Part Content-type: application/pdf; name="Inscription Form.PDF"; x-mac-creator="4341524F"; x-mac-type="50444620" Content-disposition: attachment Content-transfer-encoding: base64 JVBERi0xLjMKJXpHX9X530qkGLewI3M2H6ZkUiBMhHMfCjEgMCBvYmoKPDwKL1R5cGUgL0Nh dGFsb2cKL1BhZ2VzIDMgMCBSCi9PdXRsaW5lcyAyIDAgUgo+PgplbmRvYmoKMiAwIG9iago8 PAovVHlwZSAvT3V0bGluZXMKL0NvdW50IDAKPj4KZW5kb2JqCjMgMCBvYmoKPDwKL1R5cGUg L1BhZ2VzCi9Db3VudCAxCi9LaWRzIFsgNSAwIFIgXQo+PgplbmRvYmoKNCAwIG9iagpbL1BE RiAvVGV4dCAvSW1hZ2VCIC9JbWFnZUMgXQplbmRvYmoKNSAwIG9iago8PAovVHlwZSAvUGFn ZQovUGFyZW50IDMgMCBSCi9SZXNvdXJjZXMgPDwKL0ZvbnQgPDwKL0ZjcGRmMCA3IDAgUgov RmNwZGYxIDggMCBSCi9GY3BkZjIgOSAwIFIKL0ZjcGRmMyAxMCAwIFIKPj4KL1hPYmplY3Qg PDwKL0lNY3BkZjAgMTEgMCBSCi9JTWNwZGYxIDEyIDAgUgovSU1jcGRmMiAxMyAwIFIKPj4K 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[129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBRC0Dx20928 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:13 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id MAA28627; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:11 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:11 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:00:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: ro-sham-bo cc: britdisc Subject: Merry Christmas and a Happy new years Game Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey folks, I hope christmas has treated you well. For anyone planning to be in Edinburgh over the new year, there will be a game on New Years day, probably at around 1pm, on the usual spot on the Meadows. So don't forget to bring your boots. Hope you all have a fantastic time where ever you are. Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Dec 27 14:11:18 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBRE79820185 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:07:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBRE78X20180 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:07:08 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBRE76u28122 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:07:06 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA05517 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:06:10 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200012271406.OAA05517@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 14:09:28 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id eBRE79X20181 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 13 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WARWICK INDOORS Location: University of Warwick, Coventry - [Indoor Ultimate] Only 12 places available! Meg Bridges 34E Tocil Flats, University of Warwick, Coventry, , CV4 7AL Main Email: lsumc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mobile: 07773063043 ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - NATIONAL JUNIOR INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Grantham Meres Leisure Centre / Grantham College - [Indoor Ultimate] Paul Unwin (Stig) Grantham College, Stonebridge Road, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk Alternative Email: woolpack5dave@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01476 577993 Work Phone: 01476 400200 x317 Fax: 01476 400291 ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (1 DAYS) - MAGIC CIRCLE SCOTTISH INVITATIONAL Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Indoor tournament at Meadowbank on the Saturday, optional outdoor pickup game at the Meadows on Sunday. Space for 10 Scottish teams - for further info visit the website below. http://www.forcinghome.co.uk/magic Andy Mallarkey Main Email: strijka@yahoo.com Mobile: 07867 583899 Fax: 0870 70 60 498 ____________________________________________________________ 03 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS NATIONALS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: hsp298@lineone.net Mobile: 07799065713 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 28 01:14:55 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBS1AKg14658 for britdisc-outgoing; 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I will be out of the office from 12/23/2000 until 12/31/2010. I have left Kerry Foods, please direct any matters needing attention to David Farquhar (David.Farquhar@kerryfoods.co.uk). Please send all personal mails to me on "alex_bowers@yahoo.com" ******************************************************************** This message, including any attachments, is confidential, privileged and for the sole benefit of the person(s) to whom it was intended to be addressed. If you receive it in error, please delete it from your system, make no copies of it, do not disclose its contents to any third party or use it for your own or any other person's benefit. Please advise "mailmaster@kerryfoods.co.uk" of its receipt as soon as possible. Kerry Foods Ltd +44 (0) 1784 430777 ******************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Dec 28 19:46:09 2000 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id eBSJeW522389 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:40:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBSJeUD22383 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:40:30 GMT Received: from postfix2.free.fr (postfix@postfix2.free.fr [212.27.32.74]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBSJeUg13330 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:40:30 GMT Received: from pcportable (nas-cbv-1-7-137.dial.proxad.net [213.228.7.137]) by postfix2.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id C2E2874092; Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:40:20 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <002a01c07106$57210c60$05dc2c96@pcportable> Reply-To: "Frisbeurs Nantais" From: "Frisbeurs Nantais" To: "BritDisc" , "Eurodisc" Subject: Beach Ultimate Tournament in France (June 2,3,4th) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:42:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0710E.B53B0A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0710E.B53B0A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SURVEY ;-) 1) ULTIMATE IS STILL YOUR FAVORITE SPORT YES - NO 2) YOU STILL LOVE TO PLAY ON THE BEACH YES - NO 3) YOU STILL NEED FUN YES - NO IF YOU ANSWERED YES, COME VISIT US AT: HTTP://FRISBEURS.FREE.FR THE "YES BUT NAU" TOURNAMENT - MILLENIUM EDITION - IS WHAT YOU NEED WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU IN LE POULIGUEN (NEAR NANTES - FRANCE) FOR THE = SECOND EDITION LES FRISBEURS ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0710E.B53B0A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0710E.B53B0A00-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 1 18:27:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f01INof11691 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:23:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f01INnD11686 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:23:49 GMT Received: from scooby.lineone.net (doggy.lineone.net [194.75.152.224]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f01INmf26191 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:23:48 GMT Received: from lineone.net (scooby-s1 [194.75.152.224]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAB00156 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:23:28 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:23:28 GMT From: hsp298@lineone.net Message-Id: <200101011823.SAB00156@scooby.lineone.net> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Southampton Indoor Results Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks once again to all those who played and to those who helped with the organisation and running of the weekend. Results as follows: 1- UTI 2- Druids 3- Shrub 4- Poughkeepsie 5- Total Muppets 6- Essex Boys 7- Yo Mamma 8- <45 9- Mr Men (plate) 10- Skunks 1 11- Headrush 12- Venom 13- Simpsons 14- Strange Blue 15- BAF 1a 16- Mythago 17- BAF 1 (spoon) 18- Skunks 2 19- Skunks 4 20- Skunks 3 Spirit of the game- Poughkeepsie MVP- John Copeland (UTI) Hope everyone had a good christmas, thanks once again. We still have lost property so get i contact if you are missing items. Sally (Skunks) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 1 18:34:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f01IXrY12361 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:33:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f01IXpD12354 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:33:51 GMT Received: from scooby.lineone.net (doggy.lineone.net [194.75.152.224]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f01IXpg17761 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:33:51 GMT Received: from lineone.net (scooby-s1 [194.75.152.224]) by scooby.lineone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA07623 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:33:26 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:33:26 GMT From: hsp298@lineone.net Message-Id: <200101011833.SAA07623@scooby.lineone.net> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: womens nationals 3-4th feb Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I realise that this is late notice but the venue we were hoping to use looks to be causing problems. If any one has a suitable sports hall that would be able to host us, on the 3rd/4th february, could you please get in contact with me as soon as possible. One sports hall is needed to host about 12 teams between the times of 9am/10am-6pm. Any other queries please do not hesitate to get in contact with me on: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Cheers Sally (womens Co-ordinator) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 3 20:22:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f03KIaJ03327 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:18:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f03KIYD03320 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:18:34 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f03KISg18322 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:18:29 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14DuMc-000NhS-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 20:18:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 23:49:29 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder References: <200012271406.OAA05517@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200012271406.OAA05517@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are there any "officially informed" clues as to what the Tour dates are likely to be? and any official news on the EFDF club championships (supposedly Prague, June 11-17 ish?) Wayne Wed, 27 Dec 2000, by British Ultimate Federation ; Subject: BUF Events Reminder >BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > >See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. >Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 3 22:49:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f03MlaY21298 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:47:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f03MlYD21292 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:47:35 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f03MlYf24469 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:47:34 GMT Received: from ben (dialup144.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.144]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA03981 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:48:02 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-ID: <065501c075d7$fc0cf560$aba592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" References: <200012271406.OAA05517@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> Subject: Tour Dates and Europeans Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:52:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wayne and all, TOUR DATES Chris Hughes will publicise these as soon as he's ready. You can hassle him at cjhughes@talk21.com EUROPEANS Frustratingly little further information. The latest information we have is that they are "currently planning to host the EUCC on 9 - 14 July, 2001". There has been a change of venue as the Blsany site has fallen through. We are now told that Prague is the intended location. I would advise everyone to pencil this in your diaries but be prepared for possible future changes of date and venue or even cancellation. Put it this way: Hwo is still offering odds of 250 - 1 that the event will be in Leicester! ;-) Please don't ask us to speculate on team allocations and divisions. Until they have a firm venue they're not going to be able to do this. Ominously, there are plans to admit some non-European teams to "raise the the level of play and give European teams at least a glimpse of Ultimate from other continents." (to quote Thomas Griesbaum of EFDF). The BUF have complained vigourously about this on a number of occasions. With the exception of the junior division (which may need non-euro teams in order to be viable) we want to see as many European (and hopefully British) teams reach the event as possible. Lets not forget that a European team reached the final of the 1999 World Club Championships. We'll try to keep you up to date... Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Retter" To: Sent: 02 January 2001 23:49 Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder > > Are there any "officially informed" clues as to what the Tour dates are > likely to be? > > and any official news on the EFDF club championships (supposedly Prague, > June 11-17 ish?) > > > Wayne > > > Wed, 27 Dec 2000, by British Ultimate Federation .co.uk>; > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > >BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > > >See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > >Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > mobile: 07970-903420 > w.retter@bigfoot.com > office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 5 10:37:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f05AXnJ21910 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:33:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f05AXkD21900 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:33:47 GMT Received: from bramg1.net.external.hp.com (bramg1.net.external.hp.com [192.6.126.73]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f05AXgf04208 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:33:46 GMT Received: from quasit.br.itc.hp.com (quasit.br.itc.hp.com [15.145.8.135]) by bramg1.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9164389; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:33:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from loddon.br.itc.hp.com (loddon.br.itc.hp.com [15.145.8.166]) by quasit.br.itc.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit6.0.6 OpenMail) with SMTP id KAA13033; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:33:28 GMT Received: from 15.145.8.166 by loddon.br.itc.hp.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:33:28 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: by loddon.br.itc.hp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:33:28 -0000 Message-ID: <47B8A4087B4ED411B3F700D0B747AC7F0179AD58@kipling.br.itc.hp.com> From: "CHARETTE,PAUL (HP-Unitedkingdom,ex1)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: Rocky Beach Subject: Calling all Yanks! Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:33:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I forward the following message on behalf of Rocky ... He can be reached on solomonbeach@yahoo.com. ---------- begin forwarded message ---------- Calling US citizens, How would you like to come down the warm Canary Islands for a weekend full of ultimate? Well, the US team is looking for 1 more male player to fill out the roster. Well, OK, it won't be like the World Championship, but it will be really fun. It will be co-ed Savage Seven (grass) on Friday, 5 vs 5 (sand) on Saturday with 2 subs, then back to co-ed Savage Seven (grass) on Sunday. The tournament is called Dr. Sand and Mr. Grass. Dates: February 16, 17, 18 I need to know almost immediately if you can make it. We need to fill this last spot. PLAYER PROFILE: We are looking for a good player with good spirit. We should have a fun and competitive team. You can contact me at: Rocky Beach solomonbeach@yahoo.com Tournament web page: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/tenerife/ Help support the Stars and Stripes. Take it easy, Rocky From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 5 11:57:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f05BsOd05152 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:54:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f05BsND05143 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:54:23 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f05BsMf11520 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:54:22 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18093 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:54:21 GMT Received: from B45B-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45b-05.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.41]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f05BsLS06728 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:54:21 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: BRITDISC Subject: Womens Nationals- 3rd/4th February Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:54:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f05BsND05145 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK panic over, we have a venue for all those teams interested the details are as follows: Date: 3rd/4th February Venue: Cantell School - Southampton (sorry to all those in the North!) Cost: £75 we have room for 12 teams. cheques made payable to SU FRISBEE send to Sally Pennington 39 Portswood Road Portswood Southampton SO17 2ET Could all interested reply by the 27th January so I can sort out the schedule, could you also let me know if accomodation will be needed and roughly how many. Directions and further details will be sent out in the near future. Thank you, hope to see you there Sally (skunks) ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 5 12:11:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f05CARY07900 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:10:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f05CAPD07893 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:10:25 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f05CAOg15117 for ; Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:10:24 GMT Received: from modem-892.babbelas.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.25.135.124] helo=www) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14EVhG-0006SG-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 05 Jan 2001 12:10:15 +0000 From: "Edward Grigson" To: Subject: Housing in London for returning Ultimate player? Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:06:58 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Having just returned from a year in that lovely warm place Down Under, I'm now looking for accomodation in the Clapham area - in order to play Ultimate on the common obviously! I doubt Clapham Common will seem so appealing to us after the Sydney beaches but rain has an appeal all of its own doesn't it?? If anyone knows of a good double room going in the near future please get in touch (Edward_Grigson@hotmail.com). My girlfriend and I are both professionals, reliable etc, all our friends are really good looking, plus we'd bring a PC, DVD player, car and Playstation to enrich everyone's lives with... Thanks, Ed Grigson. Email: Edward_Grigson@hotmail.com Tel: 07949 885416 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 8 10:23:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f08AJJG21104 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:19:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f08AJ7D21053 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:19:10 GMT Received: from mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (lsumc@mimosa [137.205.192.34]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f08ADog03910; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:13:50 GMT From: Miss M E Bridges Received: from localhost (lsumc@localhost) by mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15518; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:13:43 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk: lsumc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:13:43 +0000 (GMT) To: cc: , , , , , , , , Mr A J Tucker , , , , , Subject: Warwick Indoors. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For all those people attending the tournament this weekend, listen up! Would the following teams please inform me if they want accomadation for Friday and/or Saturday night: Fusion Baboom Red Sneekys Strange Blue If you are coming up Friday night, we will be meeting in the Varisty pub (directions below) from around 8.30pm. Captains meeting 9am Saturday morning. To speed our entry into the Union on Saturday night could you please email me a list of your players names. I need this information by Thursday. Don't worry if your team changes, we just need a rough list. Cheers guys, see you very soon! Meg DIRECTIONS: REMEMBER - WARWICK UNIVERSITY IS NOT IN WARWICK!!! FROM THE NORTH: M1 to junction 21 Follow signs for M69 - Coventry and Birmingham M69 to end junction of M6 Follow signs to A46 - Warwick - Stratford Left at 1st roundabout Straight over 2nd roundabout Right at 3rd roundabout to A45 - Warwick - Stratford Take 1st exit to Warwick - Stratford (ignore signs for University) 1st exit off roundabout for Warwick-Stratford 1st exit off A46 for NAC Stoneleigh and University Turn right at top of slip road Take first right signed to University Cross lights into Gibbet Hill Straight over at first roundabout Turn right at Second roundabout Take 3rd exit (just passed bus shelters) Park in Car park on right FROM SOUTH M40 to A46 Coventry - junction 15 A46 to Coventry Exit off A46 to University and NAC Stoneleigh Turn left at top of slip road Follow signs to Univeristy Cross lights into Gibbet Hill Road Straight over first roundabout Right at second roundabout 3rd exit (just passed bus shelters) park in car park on right VARSITY PUB - FRIDAY + SATURDAY NIGHT Instead off turning right into the Univeristy, go straight over roundabout and pub is on the right From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 8 11:09:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f08B5Lk06975 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:05:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f08B5FD06946 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:05:15 GMT Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f08B5Cf29016; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:05:13 GMT Received: from pbncomputer ([213.120.138.167]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010108110641.VZXD1799.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@pbncomputer>; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:06:41 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01c07962$4387c0e0$a78a78d5@pbncomputer> From: "Pete Thomas" To: "Miss M E Bridges" , Cc: , , , , , , , , "Mr A J Tucker" , , , , , References: Subject: Re: Warwick Indoors. Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:00:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, It's Pete from the National Sports Library. Can I ask someone to kindly send me a couple of icons which I could use to show the following sports. Double Disc Court Ultimate Frisbee Freestyle Disc Golf All relating to frisbee, ofcourse. GIF or ICO format is fine but no larger than 32x32. Thanks for your help. Privately if you wish, maybe better. pete@snyde.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 8 13:38:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f08DYqs06048 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:34:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f08CrJD19236 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:53:20 GMT Received: from mail02-lhr.pilot.net (mail-lhr-2.pilot.net [212.117.0.17]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f08CrDf24184 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:53:14 GMT Received: from sclon005.seacontainers.com (unknown-212-117-10-192.pilot.net [212.117.10.192] (may be forged)) by mail02-lhr.pilot.net (Pilot/) with ESMTP id MAA07193 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:53:09 GMT Received: from sclon005.seacontainers.com (unverified) by sclon005.seacontainers.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.2) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:53:05 +0000 Received: by ntlon008.geseaco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:53:05 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Dray,Nick" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Jack from Red Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:52:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone know of current whereabouts or e-mail address of the white haired demon? All info gratefully received. cheers, nick fever ****************************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. It may also be protected by legal privilege. It is intended only for the stated addressee(s). If you are not an addressee you must not disclose, copy, circulate nor use the information contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error please inform the sender immediately and delete it and any copies from your system. ****************************************************************************** From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 10 12:26:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0ACI8B07187 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:18:08 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0ACI1D07139 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:18:01 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f248.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.248]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0ACHwg20417 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:17:59 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:17:33 -0800 Received: from 193.145.108.51 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:17:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.145.108.51] From: "valerio iani" To: EuroDisc@ira.uka.de, aus-ultimate@egroups.com, frisbee_dk@egroups.com, Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, itadisc@egroups.com Subject: tenerifeTOURNAMENT:Dr.SAND&Mr.GRASS Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:17:33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2001 12:17:33.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FA02B80:01C07AFF] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Good news for the players "enemies of the coldness". We have decide to make one more team: the European Union (pick up team), Remember that our teams are mixed-Teams (co-ed) So write us immediately because the tournament starts during only 1 month. Dr.SAND&Mr.GRASS Tournament TENERIFE (Canary Island) 16-17-18 February 2001 FEE = 60 EURO (10.000 Ptas.): 3 days (Friday, Saturday, Sunday) 3 nights (Thursday, Friday, Saturday) 3 breakfasts 2 dinners + 1 lunch 1 welcome party + 2 parties SAUVAGE-SEVEN CO-ED division: 56 players 8 teams, 8 nations (USA, Germany, UK, Spain.....) 9 GAMES EACH TEAM: Friday: 3 games on Grass + GUTS Saturday: 4 games on Sand + GUTS Sunday: 2 games on Grass (finals) + GUTS final FIELDS: GRASS: great university field, perfect "green" SAND: yellow beach with sand from Sahara For more information and photos, see: www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/tenerife see you in the sand&grass fields valerio bleifrei ex La Fotta ex I Fessi ex Patatas Bravas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C07B0C.9E21E7A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 10 23:02:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0AN04o15254 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:00:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0AN03D15244 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:00:03 GMT Received: from iraun1.ira.uka.de (iraun1.ira.uka.de [129.13.10.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0AMxvW09103 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:59:58 GMT Received: from i02mac181.ira.uka.de by iraun1 (PP) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:59:05 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:59:01 +0100 To: BritDisc Mailing List From: Thomas Griesbaum Subject: More Canary Island Ultimate Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Beach Ultimate on the Canary Islands ! In addition to the Beach & Grass Ultimate event in Tenerife which you read about today, there will also be the second edition of last year's "Beach Ultimate Hat Tournament Ciudad Las Palmas de Gran Canaria". Those who had a great time there in 2000 will be glad to hear that everything will be the same it was last year: When: March 16-18, 2001 Where: Las Palmas, Playa de Las Alcaravaneras http://www.mma.es/docs/costas/playas/html/f/gc/gc0003.htm Costs: Option A: 15.000 pts., 90.15 Euros, ~84.45 $ U.S 3 nights in a 2 star hotel, 3 breakfasts, party, players fee Option B: 5.000 pts., 30.05 Euros, ~28.15 $ U.S party, players fee Deadline: Feb 15th, 2001, or when 120 players have sigend up Weather: Sun, sun, sun and 30 degrees (well, there's no money back guarantee for that) For more information and to sign up go to the web site http://www.mundofree.com/iag1/ Questions may also be directed to: Ignacio "Nacho" Arcos Please pass this on to anyone possibly interested ! Thomas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 11 14:43:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0BEce925405 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:38:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0BEcbD25393 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:38:38 GMT Received: from mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (lsumc@mimosa [137.205.192.34]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0BEcaW21072 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:38:37 GMT From: Miss M E Bridges Received: from localhost (lsumc@localhost) by mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15108 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:38:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk: lsumc owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:38:36 +0000 (GMT) To: Subject: Warwick Indoors- Schedule Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all those concerned, the frist games are as follows: 9am - Captains meeting 9.10am - Baboom v Bear Naked Ladies (Bears 2) 9.26am - Substance Abuse v Mwnci See 9.42am - Grin + Bear It (Bears 1) v Bear Faced Cheek (Bears 3) 9.58am - Janitors v Fusion 10.14am - Strange Blue v Bear Necessities (Bears 4) 10.30am - WAS v Mexican Horse Bandits 10.46am - Angels v Sneeekys 11.02am - Whiplash v Red Be VERY VERY aware that games will probably be running ahead of schedule so arrive in plenty of time. If you don't make it to the Captains meeting, make sure you come and find me so I can issue you with your schedule and your goody bag!! See you Friday/Saturday, Meg From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 12 14:22:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0CEH3T11140 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:17:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0CEGxD11108 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:16:59 GMT Received: from mail.community.net.uk (bsd01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0CEGuW05858 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:16:58 GMT Received: from oxtutor.community.co.uk ([195.72.164.109] helo=hercules.oxfordtutorialcollege.ac.uk) by mail.community.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #6) id 14H4vr-0001B2-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:11:56 +0000 Received: by HERCULES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:52:32 -0000 Message-ID: <0FB424FA1B6ED4118BB600B0D03E1CF101FEEC@HERCULES> From: Jonathan Hope To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Photos of WUGC 2000 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:52:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Half a dozen of the shots I took in Germany last summer have finally made > it to my photo web-site. There's a pic from one GB Open game and another > from the Co-ed semi-final - featuring Mr Harry Golby, again, I'm afraid. > And no, Harry, you didn't get this one either...! > > I'd be really grateful if anyone can help provide names for the other > players featured - from the USA, Canada, Japan and Australia - by > forwarding the site details to anyone you know in those countries. > > Thanks to Barry O'Kane for doing all the technical stuff. > > Cheers > Jon Hope > > www.endzone.co.uk/ultipics > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 14 14:37:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0EEY0203145 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:34:00 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0EEXwD03139 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:33:58 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0EEXvc11450 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:33:58 GMT Received: from ben (dialup118.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.118]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA15310 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:34:57 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-ID: <007701c07e37$e1ea3ea0$76a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Europeans: Who wants to go to? Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:10:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, We need to hear from teams intending/hoping to attend the Europeans in Prague this summer. As yet we have no indication of slots available but rather than just saying "yes please, we'll have as many as possible" we would like to be able to give the organisers a firm(er) idea of how many British teams are serious about playing. You response does not have to be a cast iron commitment at this stage but we would like to hear from you straight away (i.e. this week). So far, we have heard from Chevron, London and Bristol(Masters). Thanks Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 15 17:23:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0FHJdk09772 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:19:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0FHJbD09762 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:19:37 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h008.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.108]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0FHJbW20437 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:19:37 GMT Received: (cpmta 10676 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2001 17:19:19 +0000 Date: 15 Jan 2001 17:19:19 +0000 Message-ID: <20010115171919.10675.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 15 Jan 2001 17:19:19 GMT Received: from [152.71.30.183] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 15 Jan 2001 17:19:19 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: cjhughes@talk21.com From: samuel rey Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.2 Subject: Regional events Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Chris We would like to hold the regional qualifiers, for the Midland Region.... if possible. Is this possible? the w/e 24 February is perfect for us and there are at least 2 sports hall pitches available, and another if neccessary. I appreciate this is short notice, please confirm,asap, that a decision has not been made, or that we can do it. If not, and the Regionals is at a later date we would like to hold a pre-stress event. Your rapid response would be most appreciated. Thanks Sam SuperFly ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 15 20:13:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0FKBOA15841 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:11:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0FKBND15836 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:11:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f146.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.146]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0FKBMc12252 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:11:22 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:11:14 -0800 Received: from 212.59.97.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:11:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.59.97.12] From: "Tom Styles (Block Stack)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Warwick Tournament Video Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:11:14 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jan 2001 20:11:14.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FEC4A90:01C07F2F] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello All, For those who didn’t make it to Warwick over the weekend you maybe interested to know that it was the first outing for a new project. “Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers” are a group of ultimate players trying to push the sport forward, by covering the event Sky Sports style. After a few technical problems on Saturday, which we always intended to use as an experiment, the Block Stack crew was busy on Sunday morning setting up our three cameras, and equipment for editing and recording the game and the live commentary. At the end of the day we took orders for videos, which cost £10 each. Our aim for the weekend was to see if there was demand for a video, and to see if it was possible to produce something professional on a limited budget and little experience. I think every one who came up and saw what we were doing would agree that the output was professional, all of the players at Warwick also proved that there is plenty of demand. I’d like to thank the Block Stack team, Martin Cross (Editor), Ian Duckling (Camera and Technical) Andy Brown (Camera and Technical) and our guest camera men Jamie (Bears) and Graham(Baboom) for their silky skills. Thanks also to Tim and Cat from Mwnci and all the team captains for their help with players names, to everyone who parted with money to support the venture, and finally to Meg and the Bears for their tolerance, support, and encouragement. We originally planed to edit the tournament down to 90 minutes but we figured that you guys know how to use a fast forward button so you can do your own editing. As a result the tape now include 5-12 minute sections of the last four semis and at least 8 minutes of all the finals including most of the Grand Final, we also tacked on some interviews from around the tournament. Final total 2h 30mins. A snip at only £10. If you’d like to order a video please send a cheque for £10 payable to Tom Styles to: 151b Main Street, Woodborough, Nottingham, NG14 6DD Don’t forget to enclose your return address and an email address so we can confirm your money has arrived. We aim to send out the videos within ten working days of receiving your money. If you’d like to invite us to your tournament (we can’t promise), or would like to contact us about anything else, please feel free to write to blockstack@hotmail.com Regards to all, Tom Styles (Producer and Commentator) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 16 13:04:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0GD0OA16520 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:00:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0GD0ND16507 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:00:23 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0GD0Mc12052 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:00:22 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:52:55 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:51:26 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'samuel rey'" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Regional events Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:51:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sam, and the rest of you. Regionals and National indoors are organised (apart from a hiccup in the south). Teams will be getting invites soon and will get a chance to enter any of the regional events - you reply to the place you want to go to. To that end you need to make sure that your contact details are up-to-date on the Buf mailing list - see the BUF website, and you info will arrive in the near future. Chris -----Original Message----- From: samuel rey [mailto:samanir@breathe.com] Sent: 15 January 2001 17:19 To: cjhughes@talk21.com Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Regional events Hi Chris We would like to hold the regional qualifiers, for the Midland Region.... if possible. Is this possible? the w/e 24 February is perfect for us and there are at least 2 sports hall pitches available, and another if neccessary. I appreciate this is short notice, please confirm,asap, that a decision has not been made, or that we can do it. If not, and the Regionals is at a later date we would like to hold a pre-stress event. Your rapid response would be most appreciated. Thanks Sam SuperFly ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 16 13:10:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0GD9Lv19307 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:09:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0GD9JD19294 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:09:19 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0GD9EW20961 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:09:19 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:04:49 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:03:19 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: Tour Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:03:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A lot of people are inquiring about the tour (where, when, can I host, avoid this, avoid that). Until the EFDF let the BUF know where and when the wandering landmine that is the European Championships will be then the tour is in limbo. We have some plans and venues provisionally booked, but they are not definite until the event can be confirmed. Therefore please ensure that your contact details are up to date on the BUF website. (If you are a defunct team - please make sure you have removed the team from the list) This is important as when we decide to move, deadlines and flexibility will be limited. However if people want to help - the thing that we need (and don't yet have) is a venue for T1. Somewhere in UK, sometime in April, with as many pitches you can get (8 will work, 10 is good, 12 is useful). To those people who want me to avoid the weekend after Rimini, the weekend before Rimini, Rimini itself, Brugge, Rotterdam (they're sounding hopeful this year!). When you are dictated to by the few feasible venues in the country, you take what you can get. I will try as hard as I can to avoid the tournaments, but the timing of your holidays is your choice. Chris DoC ___________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes Lecturer in Biomechanics School of Sport Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education Hardwick Campus St Paul's Road Cheltenham GL50 4BS 01242 543299 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 16 21:16:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0GLD7u08822 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:13:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0GLD5D08814 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:13:05 GMT Received: from bramg1.net.external.hp.com (bramg1.net.external.hp.com [192.6.126.73]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0GLD0W17961 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:13:05 GMT Received: from quasit.br.itc.hp.com (quasit.br.itc.hp.com [15.145.8.135]) by bramg1.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90D1D for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:12:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from loddon.br.itc.hp.com (loddon.br.itc.hp.com [15.145.8.166]) by quasit.br.itc.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit6.0.6 OpenMail) with SMTP id VAA14833 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:12:45 GMT Received: from 15.145.8.166 by loddon.br.itc.hp.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:12:45 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: by loddon.br.itc.hp.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:12:45 -0000 Message-ID: <47B8A4087B4ED411B3F700D0B747AC7F019DCE4D@kipling.br.itc.hp.com> From: "CHARETTE,PAUL (HP-Unitedkingdom,ex1)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoors near Victoria? Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:12:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, There was an indoor training session near Victoria Station on Thursday nights before Xmas, but I don't know if it was to continue in the new year. Does anyone know about this? Who to contact, details, etc.? Thanks, Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 17 00:45:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0H0gga24257 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0H0geD24250 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:40 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0H0geW02037 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:40 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14IggB-0002Td-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:23:05 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder References: <200012271406.OAA05517@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200012271406.OAA05517@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What's happened to the weekly publishing of these things? Or are they just issued when there's a change? Yeah, I know I could go check the BUF website... Wayne Wed, 27 Dec 2000, by British Ultimate Federation ; Subject: BUF Events Reminder >BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > >See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 17 00:45:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0H0gXm24235 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0H0gVD24226 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:31 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0H0gUW02032 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:30 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14IggB-0002Te-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:42:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:31:30 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk in case you didn't know: Chris Hughes> the weekend after Rimini, the weekend before Rimini, Chris Hughes> Rimini itself, in a slightly different order... 07-08 April 13-16 April (incl. Good Friday and Easter Monday) 21-22 April Chris Hughes> Brugge 05-06 May and the 7th is a Bank Holiday Chris Hughes> Rotterdam (they're sounding hopeful this year!). 24-27 May (probably - this is Ascension w/e) and the 28th is a Bank Holiday ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 17 17:42:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0HHcTq27340 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:38:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HHcQD27327 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:38:26 GMT Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HHcLW12185 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:38:26 GMT Received: from [62.253.68.5] by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010117173820.IKWS29672.mta5-svc.virgin.net@[62.253.68.5]>; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:38:20 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:38:19 +0000 Subject: Re: Indoors near Victoria? From: rob trup To: "CHARETTE,PAUL (HP-Unitedkingdom,ex1)" , CC: Glyn Lewis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47B8A4087B4ED411B3F700D0B747AC7F019DCE4D@kipling.br.itc.hp.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul and all, There still is the original Thursday night practice at Sobell Sports Centre, Islington. For details visit.. http://www.popstar.demon.co.uk/playstX.html Rob > From: "CHARETTE,PAUL (HP-Unitedkingdom,ex1)" > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:12:44 -0000 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Indoors near Victoria? > > > Hi all, > > There was an indoor training session near Victoria Station on > Thursday nights before Xmas, but I don't know if it was to > continue in the new year. Does anyone know about this? Who > to contact, details, etc.? > > Thanks, > Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 17 23:32:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0HNRpf04562 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:27:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HNRnD04553 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:27:49 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HNRlW11326 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:27:47 GMT Received: from ben (dialup70.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.70]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA85795 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:28:47 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-ID: <005101c080dd$fa7d0940$46a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: World Clubs Hawaii 2002 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:22:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk www.hui2002.org From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 18 14:58:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0IEkOs09455 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:46:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IEjpD09087 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:46:07 GMT Received: from web4307.mail.yahoo.com (web4307.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.199]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0IECdc17913 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:12:39 GMT Message-ID: <20010118135950.23111.qmail@web4307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.72.70.194] by web4307.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:59:50 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:59:50 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?One=20of=20The=20Lurkers?= Subject: Indoors To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk and theres still open indoor practise in Croydon, Wednesdays 6-8 if anyone else wants to come along Croydon is 15 minutes from Victoria..... Ed - Lurkers ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 18 16:13:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0IG8rB10676 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:08:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IG8nD10656 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:08:49 GMT Received: from thorndyke01.thorndyke.co.uk (hidden-user@[62.232.12.138]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IG8mW07085 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:08:48 GMT Received: by THORNDYKE01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:03:28 -0000 Message-ID: From: Ben Ravilious To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Virus Warning Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:03:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a warning. I recently received a suspicious file called 'AVP_Updates.EXE' in an email from Rik Shipley. My suspicions were justified as this turned out not to be an anti-virus program as the name suggests but a particularly nasty virus (just as well I didn't run the program!). See below for details. http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/descriptions/mtx.htm I wouldn't recommend you open any EXE files you receive unexpectedly in the next few days. Especially from ex-UTI players! Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 18 16:13:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0IGBwi11905 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:11:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IGBqD11841 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:11:52 GMT Received: from thorndyke01.thorndyke.co.uk ([62.232.12.138]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IGBpc15208 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:11:51 GMT Received: by THORNDYKE01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:06:29 -0000 Message-ID: From: Ben Ravilious To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: FW: Virus Warning Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:06:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My mistake. Wrong Shipley brother. Sorry! Call me Duncan if it helps. Ben > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Ravilious > Sent: 18 January 2001 16:03 > To: 'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk' > Subject: Virus Warning > > Just a warning. > > I recently received a suspicious file called 'AVP_Updates.EXE' in an email > from Rik Shipley. My suspicions were justified as this turned out not to > be an anti-virus program as the name suggests but a particularly nasty > virus (just as well I didn't run the program!). See below for details. > http://www.cai.com/virusinfo/encyclopedia/descriptions/mtx.htm > > I wouldn't recommend you open any EXE files you receive unexpectedly in > the next few days. Especially from ex-UTI players! > > Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 18 16:40:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0IGZQl21427 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:35:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IGZOD21419 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:35:24 GMT Received: from server-45.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0IGZNW10782 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:35:24 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 2970 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 16:17:29 -0000 Received: from mail.kbw.co.uk (HELO aurora.oyster.co.uk) (193.132.201.148) by server-45.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 16:17:29 -0000 Received: by AURORA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:34:41 -0000 Message-ID: <7165D5A55FC4D41184DB00D0B7B9E62D092A4C@AURORA> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: There will be no practice on Clapham Common this Sunday (21st) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:34:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is intended for those of you who've been showing up but aren't on the Clapham Bullfrogs mailing list. Sorry to bother everyone else. The core team has a game against the purple scum on Saturday and the younger team members aren't fit enough to play on two consecutive days. What's the world coming to....;-) Practice will be back on again as usual at 1pm the following Sunday (28th) and is still open to any player with sufficient experience not to be eaten alive. Those London players intending to try out for the London team which has evolved from Doughboy and UTI (name still to be decided) should start coming down as much as possible on Sundays: the web site for European Clubs is up with schedules for rosters and payment - and we're stepping up a gear. We've had over 25 people down each of the last few weeks so competition's hotting up! Cheers, rt PS Indoors never has been and never will be considered an excuse - especially if you acquire injuries of Trovellian absurdity. ------------------------------------------------------------ Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 18 20:22:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0IKGgH16149 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:16:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IKGeD16141 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:16:40 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0IKGYW05719 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:16:39 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA04317 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:17:33 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:19:35 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f0IKGeD16144 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - NATIONAL JUNIOR INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Grantham Meres Leisure Centre / Grantham College - [Indoor Ultimate] Paul Unwin (Stig) Grantham College, Stonebridge Road, Grantham, Lincs, NG31 6RL Main Email: punwin@grantham.ac.uk Alternative Email: woolpack5dave@hotmail.com Home Phone: 01476 577993 Work Phone: 01476 400200 x317 Fax: 01476 400291 ____________________________________________________________ 20 JANUARY 2001 (1 DAYS) - MAGIC CIRCLE SCOTTISH INVITATIONAL Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Indoor tournament at Meadowbank on the Saturday, optional outdoor pickup game at the Meadows on Sunday. Space for 10 Scottish teams - for further info visit the website below. http://www.forcinghome.co.uk/magic Andy Mallarkey Main Email: strijka@yahoo.com Mobile: 07867 583899 Fax: 0870 70 60 498 ____________________________________________________________ 03 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS NATIONALS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: hsp298@lineone.net Mobile: 07799065713 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 21 10:33:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0LATWU13748 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:29:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0LATTD13743 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:29:29 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0LATRW02385 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:29:29 GMT Received: from pbncomputer ([213.120.136.154]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010121102758.PXVE15069.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@pbncomputer>; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:27:58 +0000 Message-ID: <007b01c08394$6cbd07e0$9a8878d5@pbncomputer> From: "Pete Thomas" To: "British Ultimate Federation" Cc: References: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:23:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: British Ultimate Federation To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:19 PM Subject: BUF Events Reminder Hiya, Dont forget, when you have created your events page, register it with www.nationalsportslibrary.com and put it into 'leagues'. That way, you'll get the page noticed even more. After the event, you may wish to keep it there for a month or so, so put the total match reports there too! Good luck. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 21 22:39:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0LMaL005317 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:36:21 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0LMaJD05312 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:36:19 GMT Received: from SydGate1.qbe.com.au ([203.0.73.235]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0LMaEW02902 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:36:17 GMT Received: by SydGate1.qbe.com.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) id CA2569DB.007CC8AE ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:42:58 +1100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: QBE From: cwagstaff@qbe.com.au To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:34:47 +1100 Subject: Laura, please can you get in touch. Thanks, Colin. Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 22 06:52:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0M6oRH21584 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:50:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0M6oQD21579 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:50:26 GMT Received: from server-7.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0M6oPc08955 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:50:25 GMT Message-Id: <200101220650.f0M6oPc08955@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 5519 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2001 06:49:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ukfw1.ge.boc.com) (193.131.2.157) by server-7.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2001 06:49:47 -0000 Received: by excgfd01.uk.gases.boc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:49:00 -0000 From: "Cahill,Maria" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Women's Events Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:44:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick message to confirm that we have had approval to run women's tournaments on the same weekend and at the same venue as two of the open tour events. I am hoping to choose two open events that run during university term time so as to accomodate student teams. The events should be a good opportunity to prepare for women's outdoor nationals as well as giving women's teams hoping to compete in Prague a chance to play together. As far as I know the venues and dates of the open tour have not been finalised yet so I realise that it is difficult to give a definite response, but if I could get an idea of how many teams are interested that would be very useful. Any comments or suggestions - feel free to mail me. Thanks, Maria ********************************************************************* This footnote confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of known computer viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. However, it is still recommended that you use local virus scanning software to monitor for the presence of viruses. ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 22 12:42:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0MCce322164 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:38:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MCcZD22126 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:38:35 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MCcPW29413 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:38:30 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03197 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:38:24 GMT Received: from B45A-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45a-01.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.5]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f0MCcNp13866 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:38:23 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Women's Nationals Update Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:38:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ok here is the list of entries, unfortunately all places are now taken, apologies to those on the reserve list, you will be informed if a space becomes available. Bliss Mavis Janet Hawes Disco Inferno Ro Sham Bo Squaws Portsmouth+squaws Superfly Skunks BAF Bears Strange Blue Reserve list: Angels Mythago Bears Directions as follows: >From the M3 follow signs for Southampton A33 (not Southampton Docks). Follow the A33 (Bassett Ave.) through 2 roundabouts to a major intersection (with the University's Medical and Biological Sciences building to your left). Turn left onto Burgess Road then turn left at the traffic lights (with the Shell garage). At the mini roundabout take the right exit and carry along this road, Cantell School will shortly be on your left hand side (Triangular building). Minimal parking infront with more parking behind. >From the M27, use junction 5 (Southampton Airport/Eastleigh). If coming from the east, take the 1st exit off the roundabout. If coming from the west, the 4th exit. Follow the A335 dual carriageway through 2 sets of traffic lights. At the 3rd set, the road divides. Turn right onto Burgess Road (McDonald's will be on your left). Carry on this road through 2 sets of traffic lights, at the third set(with the Shell garage)turn right. At the mini roundabout take the right exit and carry along this road, Cantell School will shortly be on your left hand side (Triangular building). Minimal parking infront with more parking behind. ACCOMODATION: Floor space available, if you require floors please let me know how many ASAP so that I can find you accomodation. If not here is a list of hotels/B&B's if you prefer. Highfield House Hotel 119 Highfield lane 023 80359955 The Lodge 1 winn road 023 80557537 Travelodge Lodge road 023 80229023 Novotel Hotel (slightly further away, in town centre) 1 west quay road 023 80330550 Any problems let me know 023 80678147 07799065713 Cheers Sally ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 22 13:58:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0MDs9v20588 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:54:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MDs5D20565 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:54:05 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f174.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MDrxW12879 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:59 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 05:53:48 -0800 Received: from 137.73.159.71 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.73.159.71] From: "Chris Berry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Discs to sell? wanted: £70 worth Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:53:48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2001 13:53:48.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[BEA67370:01C0847A] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all disc sellers, I have £70 and I need to buy as many discs as possible for this amount... please could you reply to christopher.berry@kcl.ac.uk with what you can offer,design is not important. Thanks alot, Chris Berry (Kings College London/Druids) >From: "British Ultimate Federation" >To: "BRITDISC" >Subject: World Clubs Hawaii 2002 >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:22:00 -0000 > >www.hui2002.org > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 22 15:20:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0MFIkZ22770 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:18:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MFIhD22755 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:18:44 GMT Received: from web9901.mail.yahoo.com (web9901.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.36]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0MFIhW26291 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:18:43 GMT Message-ID: <20010122151841.77553.qmail@web9901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.250.100.120] by web9901.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:18:41 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:18:41 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Catherine=20Moore?= Subject: Wanted: Lift from North to Womens' Tourney To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone out there driving down to Southampton with room for one little one? I'm in Carlisle, could get to Leeds or Manchester fairly easily. Cheers, Catherine ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 22 18:24:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0MILdC24975 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:21:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MILaD24957 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:21:36 GMT Received: from mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (lsumc@mimosa [137.205.192.34]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0MILaW23714 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:21:36 GMT From: Miss M E Bridges Received: from localhost (lsumc@localhost) by mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16773 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:21:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk: lsumc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:21:36 +0000 (GMT) To: Subject: Warwick Indoors - Lost items! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there, just a quick message concerning a few things I found at the Tournament last weekend: Mwnci See T-shirt "Spawn of Bisto" White T-shirt "I Conquered the fridge at Boomerangs!" Discs: Skunks design - Peter Wright '97 World Club Championshipz Vancouver. Please CLAIM NOW!!!! meg From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 23 09:43:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0N9eBg13640 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:40:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0N9eAD13633 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:40:10 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0N9e7W13023 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:40:09 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA69848 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:41:12 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200101230941.JAA69848@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:43:19 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f0N9eAD13636 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 03 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS NATIONALS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: hsp298@lineone.net Mobile: 07799065713 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Lindsay Cuthbertson 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 Mobile: 07776 187819 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. Two halls 12 teams... 8 places available get on it Sam Rey TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? Main Email: samanir@breathe.com Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 Mobile: 07866 336643 ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 23 15:59:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0NFsiW29632 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:54:44 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NFsgD29620 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:54:42 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe32.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.89]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NFsYc10702 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:54:34 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:54:24 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [212.140.165.130] From: "Kevin Lowe" To: "Britdisc" Cc: "Youth Ultimate" Subject: National Junior Indoors 2001 - Results Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:56:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2001 15:54:24.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1C11EE0:01C08554] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This weekend saw 14 teams compete in the National Junior Indoors in Grantham. This event hadn't happened for the last couple of years due to a lack of junior teams, but that has thankfully changed, and most juniors competing were playing in their first tournament. With 13 junior teams (and one Old Gits / Giffers team), this event equalled junior nationals of 97 as being the largest junior event seen in the UK. Apologies if any of the information is wrong, especially the final placings. This is all from memory, and there may be an official report coming from the organisers later. The tournament was hosted by Grantham College and brilliantly run by Paul Unwin and his students (Dave, Kim, Sammy, Rob et al). The pitches were a touch on the small side once the hall had been divided into two courts, but teams soon adjusted and preferred to have far more games than would have been possible on a single large court. The teams were split into two pools of 7 to play Round Robin. Pool A saw Thundercats and Kamaya maya (alias GBH) dominating, with Kamaya winning the rather heated head-to-head 7-5 to top the pool. KFC were the only team to not win a pool game and headed straight for the plate. Pool B saw Muppet Babies and St. Peters draw their opening head-to-head game, and then both won all their remaining games. St. Peters ended top on goal difference. Old Gits lost all their games by default, but did beat every team in the pool and felt very old and tired against the top two teams. Cross-over games between the two pools to decide who made the top 8 all went according to seedings, but with El Niño just losing out, Whoosh 1 and Mange Tout celebrating making the top 8. Saturday night was spent celebrating Stig's birthday, playing pool, table football, hack volleyball, crab football, dancing, and everything else that you associate with Ultimate, but with a little less alcohol. On Sunday, the bottom 6 consisted of St. Peters 2, Whoosh 2, KFC, Giffers, El Niño and Hint of Lemon. These teams played Round Robin on the Sunday having carried through their Saturday results. Hint of Lemon and El Niño met knowing that whoever won would win the plate, and having started very close, El Niño pulled ahead to win. It's worth noting that all five junior teams in the plate were co-ed, with girls often out-numbering the boys on pitch. Whoosh 2 and KFC met knowing that the loser would walk away with the spoon, and with Whoosh down to just 4 players (and none of them injury-free), they offered to concede the game. Following some frantic persuasions from various coaches and spirit from KFC, they agreed to play 5 on 4. Whoosh proceed to learn a zone in about 30 seconds, and after some frantic play, pull away to win 13-3. A bit tough on KFC but they are very young, and a great prospect for the future. As for the top 8, Sunday morning saw the quarter finals. Due to a communication cock-up, Thundercats due on court at 9 were still waiting for a lift, upsetting the schedule. Banbars decided to concede their quarter against Muppets feeling that they wouldn't win, and thus helping to get the schedule back on course. Muppets reluctantly accepted the win, but really would have preferred to play (such naivety is sweet). Great spirit from both teams though. Top two teams from both pools go through to the semis largely untroubled. In the first semi, St. Peters 1 met Thundercats. Thundercats had been very impressive at reaching this stage, and looked like they could run out easy winners, but St. Peters shocked them and soon had a 4 point lead. Both teams suffered a bit from not looking where the outside lines were, both when catching, and when marking. Calls were spirited though, and the crowd often asked for its opinion (and rightly ignored sometimes). As time ran out, Thundercats had drawn level and we entered sudden death. St. Peters had three opportunities to score but squandered them all with throw aways, and Thundercats celebrated. In the other semi, Kamaya maya built up a massive lead of 10-2 over Muppets before they got their act together. Final score was 10-5, but Muppets knew they had been out-played having failed to shut down Raj and Mike. Before the final was an exhibition match, where each team nominated one of their players to play. Muppets somehow managed to sneak on a couple more of its players, but their arrogance and skill made a better spectacle, with the opening point of dump, hammer, layout score being fairly typical. So to the final, with both teams psyched up. 30 minutes on the clock, and Kamaya maya having played all weekend without any subs. Rory Underwood was there to watch the final and to present the prizes, and he seemed fairly impressed with the level of play (he'd previously seen Ultimate on Sky). Any chance of a repeat of the not so spirited first meeting of these two teams was quickly diffused when Thundercats score first but their player landing on the sideline. After a brief discussion, Raj concedes the point, and both teams relax into a very spirited final. Kamaya built an early lead of a couple of points, and then traded throughout, not being phased by the bigger pitch or the lack of subs. Final score was (I believe) 12-8 to Kamaya maya. Spirit ended up being extremely close with 5 teams receiving 2 votes, but eventual winners were El Niño. There were the inevitable injuries, with three casualty runs, each time for badly sprained ankles that needed x-rays. Overall, it was a great tournament, with so many new teams, and so much promise for the future. Let's see how many attend the junior outdoors. Final Placings. 1 Kamaya Maya (Stourbridge) 2 Thundercats (Leicester) 3 Muppet Babies (all over) 4 St. Peters 1 (Exeter) 5 Hint of Lime (Gosport) 6 Banbars (Banbury) 7 Mange Tout (Grantham) 7 and 8 may be the wrong way round. 8 Whoosh 1 (Hammersmith) 9 El Niño (Carlise) 10 Hint of Lemon (Gosport) 11 St. Peters 2 (Exeter) 12 Whoosh 2 (Hammersmith) 13 KFC (Milton Keynes) 14 Giffers (coaches / ex-juniors) Spirit (El Niño) Table Football (El Niño) Pool (Grantham I think) Kevin. --- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07968 249437 | The enemy isn't the other side, wherever they draw the line | The enemy is the ruling class that draws the bloody line. |--- | If you have an Orange or One2One mobile and never | want to pay more than 3p per min, or if you're with | BT and want 33%+ savings on all calls, email or visit | http://x-stream.fortunecity.com/coderscl/155/telco From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 23 19:32:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0NJUEv01932 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:30:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NJUCD01927 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:30:13 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NJUBc17379 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:30:12 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA84309 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:31:14 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200101231931.TAA84309@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:33:22 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f0NJUDD01928 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 03 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS NATIONALS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: hsp298@lineone.net Mobile: 07799065713 ____________________________________________________________ 10 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - MYTHAGO OPEN TOURNAMENT Location: Whitchurch Sports Centre, Bristol - [Indoor Ultimate] 16 open and university teams have already signed up. Jon Cater Main Email: jc7775@bristol.ac.uk Home Phone: 0117 317 9224 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. Two halls 12 teams... 8 places available get on it Sam Rey TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? Main Email: samanir@breathe.com Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 Mobile: 07866 336643 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Lindsay Cuthbertson 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 Mobile: 07776 187819 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 23 20:45:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0NKfVZ14889 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NKfUD14883 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:30 GMT Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NKfTW19282 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:30 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14LAFn-000KfZ-0B; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:24 +0000 Message-ID: <5lV3FLAnkeb6Ewtm@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:27:19 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, Chris Hughes , Chris Hughes From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Indoor Regionals - where and when? please! References: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris - as I'm sure you're the one that's co-ordinated the whole thing... Any chance of the slightest hint of which particular regionals will be held roughly where and on what date? Something a little more accurate than "24 February - 10 March, Indoor Regionals Everywhere" e.g. (NOTE: I'm making this up!) 24/25 Feb: SE Regionals (Kent) & Welsh Regionals (MidWales) 03/04 Mar: Scottish Regionals (MidScotland) & Mids Regionals (Leics) 10/11 Mar: SW Regionals (Devon) & Central Regionals (London) I'm not fussed about exact locations, or contact details, no of teams or costs, that will wait until the invites are published. I just want to get some idea of how the Indoor Regionals fit into our other plans, and how much travelling our remaining options might be. Looking forward to a prompt response, Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 23 20:46:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0NKfUO14884 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NKfTD14877 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:29 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0NKfTc24629 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:29 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14LAFm-000Pvg-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:41:23 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:39:59 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions References: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I'm looking for details (days; times [floodlit?]; grass/astro; cost; website; contact details) of Outdoor Ultimate sessions, and Ultimate teams' fitness sessions, in the following locales: Birmingham Bournemouth Bristol London Oxford Reading Southampton I've got some players that I need to send to local sessions... If you want everybody to know your session details, reply to Britdisc (and hopefully all those people that compile the not-quite-up-to-date websites will be able to update them). If not, please just reply to me. TIA Wayne PS: Ma Frisbee's Pie Co (Clapham Division) needn't reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 24 08:27:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0O8Os622103 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:24:54 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0O8OrD22096 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:24:53 GMT Received: from bridget.hoogovens.com ([195.129.2.61]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0O8Oqc04589 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:24:52 GMT Received: from bridges.hoogovens.nl (145.8.252.111 [145.8.252.111]) by bridget.hoogovens.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id Z63DMR0W; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:19:44 +0100 Received: by bridges.hoogovens.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Kuiper, M" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: Ultimate in London Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:24:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, Can anybody can help me out some info on which team are training where in the area of London, at what times and are if there some nice tournaments (international) scheduled for the coming period in the UK or abroad. I just moved from the Netherlands to London and cannot get rid of my addiction for Ultimate. I haven't played anymore since last world championship, so I am quite a wrack at the moment, but keen on getting the good feeling back again. Unfortunately I am not having any access yet to the internet, so links to websites are only interesting for me after a couple of months. Miranda Kuiper Player of Dutch Women/ Force Electro/ LCF From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 24 21:36:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0OLWRs00970 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:32:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0OLWPD00961 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:32:25 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0OLVXW26140 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:31:50 GMT Received: from ben (dialup152.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.152]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07463 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:32:26 GMT (envelope-from ben@ravilious.net) Message-ID: <003e01c0864d$e589f000$98a592c3@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: <200101182017.UAA04317@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> Subject: Re: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:36:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are you seriously expecting us to train Druids? This brings the nesting habits of the cuckoo to mind!!! ;-) As it happens we have pretty much everything you're looking for in Leicester if its of any use to you - provided you trust your players not to defect! Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Retter" To: Sent: 23 January 2001 20:39 Subject: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions > > I'm looking for details (days; times [floodlit?]; grass/astro; cost; > website; contact details) of Outdoor Ultimate sessions, and Ultimate > teams' fitness sessions, in the following locales: > > Birmingham > Bournemouth > Bristol > London > Oxford > Reading > Southampton > > I've got some players that I need to send to local sessions... > > > If you want everybody to know your session details, reply to Britdisc > (and hopefully all those people that compile the not-quite-up-to-date > websites will be able to update them). > > If not, please just reply to me. > > TIA > Wayne > > PS: Ma Frisbee's Pie Co (Clapham Division) needn't reply. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Retter > mobile: 07970-903420 > w.retter@bigfoot.com > office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 25 11:15:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0PBAJX07100 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:10:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PBA8D07047 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:10:09 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PBA3W14816 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:10:03 GMT Received: from snailsden.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.249]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14LkHz-0004c7-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:10:03 +0000 Received: from SNAILSDEN/SpoolDir by snailsden.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jan 01 11:10:03 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by SNAILSDEN (Mercury 1.48); 25 Jan 01 11:09:59 +0000 From: "Jes" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:09:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions In-reply-to: <003e01c0864d$e589f000$98a592c3@ben> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <1FD8EF95BDE@snailsden.shef.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "Ben Ravilious" Druids and Red, now there is a great combination if I ever saw one! To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions Date sent: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:36:05 -0000 > Are you seriously expecting us to train Druids? > > This brings the nesting habits of the cuckoo to mind!!! > > ;-) > > As it happens we have pretty much everything you're looking for in Leicester > if its of any use to you - provided you trust your players not to defect! > > Ben > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Retter" > To: > Sent: 23 January 2001 20:39 > Subject: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions > > > > > > I'm looking for details (days; times [floodlit?]; grass/astro; cost; > > website; contact details) of Outdoor Ultimate sessions, and Ultimate > > teams' fitness sessions, in the following locales: > > > > Birmingham > > Bournemouth > > Bristol > > London > > Oxford > > Reading > > Southampton > > > > I've got some players that I need to send to local sessions... > > > > > > If you want everybody to know your session details, reply to Britdisc > > (and hopefully all those people that compile the not-quite-up-to-date > > websites will be able to update them). > > > > If not, please just reply to me. > > > > TIA > > Wayne > > > > PS: Ma Frisbee's Pie Co (Clapham Division) needn't reply. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wayne Retter > > mobile: 07970-903420 > > w.retter@bigfoot.com > > office: 01737-273655 > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 25 11:34:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0PBX4614703 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:33:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PBX0D14681 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:33:00 GMT Received: from chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PBWtW17266 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:33:00 GMT Received: from millhouse.cognition.co.uk (unknown [212.134.61.195]) by chalfont.mail.uk.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA47F87AA for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:31:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: by MILLHOUSE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:30:47 -0000 Message-ID: <494D3B0997E7D2119FCF00A0C9FC427526FD27@MILLHOUSE> From: Richie Smart To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Mythago Indoors... Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:30:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Once again I am on a quest to find a team that will be willing to put up with me for a weekend. If anyone has a spot on their team for Mr Skinny at the Mythago indoor tournament I would love to hear from them. Cheers Mr Skinny of Mr Men aka Richie Smart From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 25 14:34:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0PERS712401 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:27:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PERJD12360 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:27:20 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PER4c27435 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:27:04 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:21:47 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:20:16 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Wayne Retter'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Indoor Regionals - where and when? please! Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:20:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Another good question. Since I emailed last time I had indoor regionals organised - now I don't. As the situation stands we have Southern: Plymouth (moved from Portsmouth) Midlands: Birmingham Northern: Loughborough Scotland: (I've forgotten - not Edinburgh) London: Nothing - due to a cock up with Si Barry's venue cancelling the event Sorry I can't provide more detail - all the info at home. Once I have confirmed all the venues I will send you an invite for all events, and teams can enter where they like. The real point of this emial is: If anyone knows of a venue in or around London (SE) where they can host an event of either 3/4, or 10/11 of March (or even 17/18) please contact me now (cjhughes@talk21.com). Venue need only be 1 pitch and able to cope with 12 or 16 teams. Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Retter [mailto:druid#6@phidelta.demon.co.uk] Sent: 23 January 2001 20:27 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Chris Hughes; Chris Hughes Subject: Indoor Regionals - where and when? please! Chris - as I'm sure you're the one that's co-ordinated the whole thing... Any chance of the slightest hint of which particular regionals will be held roughly where and on what date? Something a little more accurate than "24 February - 10 March, Indoor Regionals Everywhere" e.g. (NOTE: I'm making this up!) 24/25 Feb: SE Regionals (Kent) & Welsh Regionals (MidWales) 03/04 Mar: Scottish Regionals (MidScotland) & Mids Regionals (Leics) 10/11 Mar: SW Regionals (Devon) & Central Regionals (London) I'm not fussed about exact locations, or contact details, no of teams or costs, that will wait until the invites are published. I just want to get some idea of how the Indoor Regionals fit into our other plans, and how much travelling our remaining options might be. Looking forward to a prompt response, Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Jan 25 20:17:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0PKB9324813 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:11:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0PKB7D24801 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:11:07 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h015.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.115]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0PKB6c19949 for ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:11:06 GMT Received: (cpmta 4060 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2001 20:10:54 +0000 Date: 25 Jan 2001 20:10:54 +0000 Message-ID: <20010125201054.4059.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 25 Jan 2001 20:10:54 GMT Received: from [212.139.37.193] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 25 Jan 2001 20:10:54 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.2 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Slipdisc training times - BIRMINGHAM Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk For any one who is interested and fancies outdoor action in Birmingham: Slipdisc practice outdoors every Sunday, rain and snow included, from 12:00. Venue - Metchley Park Lane playing fields (v. close to Queen Elizabeth hospital nr Harborne), any of the free rugby pitches. All welcome. We also play indoors on a wednesday night but can you contact me 1st as we often need to limit numbers. For further details, email me at mta99@bigfoot.com, failing that slipdisc@egroups.com. Any help Wayne? Mal. slipkno........disc aka MBM \\!// mta99@bigfoot.com [o o] 07740 194 504 \-/ 0121 472 3694 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 26 10:53:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0QAoS210343 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:50:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0QAoRD10336 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:50:27 GMT Received: from web11502.mail.yahoo.com (web11502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.47]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0QAoPc00525 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:50:26 GMT Message-ID: <20010126105015.71862.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [217.8.13.2] by web11502.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:50:15 PST Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 02:50:15 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Andrew=20Mallarkey?= Subject: Chris Bull's yellow disc To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, sorry to all but one of you that this doesn't concern. I have been handed a disc by an attendant at Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh. It was handed to me on Sat 20 Jan, the attendant said "I know your Mum - you play frisbee don't you? Someone left a frisbee here." Very strange. Anyway, she's held it for weeks on end (I think since Beginner's in November). It's a bright yellow Ultrastar, with "Play Ultimate!" on it, with the name CHRIS BULL written on the inside on Tippex. Email me back so I can arrange sending it back to you. Andy Sneeeky's, Edinburgh ===== strijka - It's pronounced "stree-kaa" ===== Visit http://www.forcinghome.co.uk - the Ultimate photo archive ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Jan 26 12:24:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0QCMp911036 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:22:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0QCMnD11027 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:22:49 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f185.hotmail.com [216.32.181.185]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0QCMmc23575 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:22:48 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 04:22:41 -0800 Received: from 141.245.40.230 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:22:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [141.245.40.230] From: "Will Parker" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions: Bournemouth Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:22:40 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2001 12:22:41.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD81E500:01C08792] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There is a weekly practice in Bournemouth on Sundays, open to all. 2-4pm in Meyrick Park. Will (Druids) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:39:59 +0000 From: Wayne Retter Subject: Outdoor Ultimate Sessions I'm looking for details (days; times [floodlit?]; grass/astro; cost; website; contact details) of Outdoor Ultimate sessions, and Ultimate teams' fitness sessions, in the following locales: Birmingham Bournemouth Bristol London Oxford Reading Southampton I've got some players that I need to send to local sessions... If you want everybody to know your session details, reply to Britdisc (and hopefully all those people that compile the not-quite-up-to-date websites will be able to update them). If not, please just reply to me. TIA Wayne PS: Ma Frisbee's Pie Co (Clapham Division) needn't reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Jan 27 18:49:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0RIk6Y09563 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:46:06 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0RIk4D09552 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:46:04 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0RIk2W19664 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:46:02 GMT Received: from ben (dialup104.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.165.104]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA57756; Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:47:08 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-ID: <051b01c08892$508e9c20$68a592c3@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Cc: , , , Subject: Stockport area players needed Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 18:48:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We've received a call from Stockport Council who are interested in getting ultimate into the summer activities programme. I need players who live in the area top help them out. Even if you're not into coaching you could well help them get things going. Strong potential for starting a new team I would think. Do you live in/near Stockport or know anyone who does? Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Jan 28 22:44:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0SMfT625449 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:41:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0SMfRD25440 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:41:27 GMT Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0SMesc29826 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:40:54 GMT Received: from cst432.york.ac.uk (cst432.york.ac.uk [144.32.9.94]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0SMeli28646; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:40:47 GMT Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:40:46 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: pete w To: British Ultimate Federation cc: BRITDISC , iain_mckeith@yahoo.co.uk, monkey_magic14@hotmail.com, john.e.taylor@kcl.ac.uk, s.j.kinsey@ex.ac.uk Subject: Re: Stockport area players needed In-Reply-To: <051b01c08892$508e9c20$68a592c3@ben> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk when is this taking place? i live about 5 mins drive from stockport when i'm back at my parent's house, which is where i will probably be after june for most of the summer. any use? pete (rodders) YBK -- ................................................................ We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur." - Former U.S. Vice-President Dan Quayle ................................................................ On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, British Ultimate Federation wrote: > We've received a call from Stockport Council who are interested in getting > ultimate into the summer activities programme. > > I need players who live in the area top help them out. Even if you're not > into coaching you could well help them get things going. Strong potential > for starting a new team I would think. > > Do you live in/near Stockport or know anyone who does? > > Thanks > > Ben > BUF Secretary > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 29 19:32:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0TJTTj00150 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0TJTRX00133 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:27 GMT Received: from ns2.nimr.mrc.ac.uk (ns2.nimr.mrc.ac.uk [194.80.106.149]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0TJTQ604964 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:26 GMT Received: from saffron.local.nimr (nimrfw.nimr.mrc.ac.uk) by ns2.nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0G7X00L4LVRG5L@ns2.nimr.mrc.ac.uk> for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:35:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:29:50 +0100 From: Sven Pfeiffer Subject: indoor ultimate in Croydon on Wed In-reply-to: X-Sender: spfeiff@saffron.local.nimr To: BritDisc Mailing List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk 2-3 weeks ago somebody mentioned an indoor practice in Croydon (15min or so from Victoria) on Wed. Whoever posted it, could you email the details again please? cheers Sven From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Jan 29 22:49:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0TMjQm06937 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:45:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0TMjPX06932 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:45:25 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0TMjO622952 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:45:24 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA89674 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:46:17 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200101292246.WAA89674@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:48:46 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f0TMjPX06933 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 03 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMENS NATIONALS Location: TBA - [Indoor Ultimate] Sally Pennington Main Email: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Alternative Email: hsp298@lineone.net Mobile: 07799065713 ____________________________________________________________ 10 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - MYTHAGO OPEN TOURNAMENT Location: Whitchurch Sports Centre, Bristol - [Indoor Ultimate] 16 open and university teams have already signed up. Jon Cater Main Email: jc7775@bristol.ac.uk Home Phone: 0117 317 9224 ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. Two halls 12 teams... 8 places available get on it Sam Rey TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? Main Email: samanir@breathe.com Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 Mobile: 07866 336643 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Lindsay Cuthbertson 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 Mobile: 07776 187819 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 30 00:16:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0U0F5L24649 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:15:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0U0F2X24635 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:15:03 GMT Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0U0F1V02265 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:15:02 GMT Received: from host213-120-4-122.host.btclick.com ([213.120.52.117]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010130001641.YCBE24947.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host213-120-4-122.host.btclick.com> for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:16:41 +0000 Received: by host213-120-4-122.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C08A50.1DD52AA0@host213-120-4-122.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:03:46 -0000 Message-ID: <01C08A50.1DD52AA0@host213-120-4-122.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Sal Pennington? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:02:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can either Sal Pennington get in touch, or someone with her contact details let me have them. Cheers Chris (01452) 380529 h (01242) 543299 w From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 30 09:33:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0U9Wkg18061 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:32:46 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0U9WfX18031 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:32:42 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:35:02 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Cyberstork@aol.com Subject: Masters Overall Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Sent: 21 January 2001 19:42 Subject: Masters Overall Please forward to the adequately-aged and interested players in your association. The information for the 2001 World Masters Overall Championship in Boulder/Denver, CO is now up on the Masters site at: http://www.dtworld.com/ The Masters age divisions for overall play are 35-44, 45-54, 55-64 and 65 and over. Some of the sections such as the schedule are not yet in place, but you will find most of what you need now including the hotel information and registration form which you can print out and send to our event host, Bill Wright. The overall schedule for this season is shaping up to be one of the most busy and exciting in several years. Here's how it looks right now: Masters Overall: Boulder/ Denver, CO, USA: 25-30 June Various Mt. Disc Golf events including Kiss The Sky: CO, USA: 7-15 July WFDF Overall: San Diego, CA, USA: 23-28 July PDGA Worlds: MN, USA: 5-12 August World Games (Golf and Ultimate): Akita, Japan: 16-20 August Also, remember that we're in New England for Masters in 2002 and we have a preliminary bid for 2003 from Milwaukee, WI, a hotbed of masters play that has never hosted the wolves. [British disc players, of any age, who would like to know more about the above events should contact Sam Neilson: sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 30 09:33:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0U9U2x17418 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:30:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0U9U0X17410 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:30:00 GMT Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0U9Tw611237 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:29:59 GMT Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28878; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:29:49 -0600 (CST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (avocdc01.admin.cargill.com [167.136.226.136]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03684; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 03:29:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA01051; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:29:46 GMT X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:29:43 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: RE: indoor ultimate in Croydon on Wed MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, spfeiff@nimr.mrc.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" ;Creation-Date="Tue, 30 Jan 2001 09:29:43 +0000" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f0U9U1X17413 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The Lurkers Practice is on the Tavistock rd in Croydon, at Saint Mary's School, from 6pm to 7:30. the cost is £3. If you come into East Croydon station, and turn right out of the front of the station. Walk down a small hill, turn left, down the side of the Lloyds Bank (Dingwall RD). Cross straight over the roundabout and talk the second left Bedford Park. First right is Tavistock Rd, it is along ther on the left (300 Yrd) CLiff -----Original Message----- From: spfeiff@nimr.mrc.ac.uk [mailto:spfeiff@nimr.mrc.ac.uk] Sent: 29 January 2001 18:30 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: FW: indoor ultimate in Croydon on Wed 2-3 weeks ago somebody mentioned an indoor practice in Croydon (15min or so from Victoria) on Wed. Whoever posted it, could you email the details again please? cheers Sven From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 30 18:26:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0UIMxb12525 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:22:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0UIMvX12511 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:22:57 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0UIMs604912 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:22:56 GMT Received: from modem-86.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.2.86] helo=ben) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14NfQX-00087U-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:22:49 +0000 Message-ID: <00d901c08aea$98eca5c0$8f07883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Fw: UPA Rules committee seeks new members Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:27:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anybody interested in exerting some British influence on the rules of Ultimate...? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Van Holmes" To: Sent: 29 January 2001 21:26 Subject: UPA Rules committee seeks new members > Eurodisc: > > I would like to thank everyone who has contibuted to the 10th > edition thru this forum. Your input has been valuable and has made our > work easier. > > The Standing Rules Committee has completed its annual cycle with the > submission of it's current draft to the Executive Director for > consideration by the college division. We will be seeking new members > to replace those who leave the committee. If you have an interest in > actively participating in the next annual cycle of the SRC, please > repy directly to me (cvh@u.washington.edu) with your qualifications > for such a position along with an estimate of the time you can devote > to the tasks below. > > The tasks the next SRC will tackle include: > > Examining current 10th for ambiguities,uncovered scenarios and > contradictions for submission to membership for a vote. > Consider penalties for time limit violation. > Finalize the annual rules process > Consideration of unifying WFDF and UPA rules > > The job description includes: > > All committee members are appointed for a single calender year > begining Jan 31 of the year appointed > > Appointment may be terminated at will by member by giving notice to chair. > > Appointment may be terminated by ED for demonstrated failure to uphold > responsibilities > > Responsibilities: > Keep SRC communications confidential > Participate in discussions > Vote on all issues before the committee > Solicite feedback from alternative sources especially players > When soliciting external feedback, provide only the > specific wording of the rule of interest. Feel free to include > your own thoughts but do not not include those written or > spoken by other SRC members. > Serve on subcommittees > Report to the committee as requested > Present rules proposals to the board as required > > > > Chris Van Holmes > UPA SRC Chair > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Jan 30 23:23:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0UNJT216062 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:19:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0UNJRX16043 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:19:28 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0UNJR604446 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:19:27 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14Nk3W-000Bsv-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:19:22 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:52:02 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Fw: UPA Rules committee seeks new members References: <00d901c08aea$98eca5c0$8f07883e@ben> In-Reply-To: <00d901c08aea$98eca5c0$8f07883e@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Subject: Fw: UPA Rules committee seeks new members >Anybody interested in exerting some British influence on the rules of >Ultimate...? On the UPA rules - i.e. those used in some parts of the US and Canada !? How close are they getting (or vice-versa) to the WFDF Rules - i.e. the ones the rest of the world uses !? Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 31 09:15:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0V9CAG28854 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:12:10 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0V9C9X28845 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:12:09 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0V9C8608532 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:12:08 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21504 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:12:00 GMT Received: from B14E-21.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14e-21.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.201]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f0V9BxV01255 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:11:59 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: BRITDISC Subject: Womens nationals details and directions for meeting friday night Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:11:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just to let you all know that the captains meeting will be held at 9.30am at Cantell school (directions sent previously) For those coming down on Friday night we will be in the Varsity pub if you wish to join us, directions as follows: >From the M3 follow signs for Southampton A33 (not Southampton Docks). Follow the A33 (Bassett Ave.) through 2 roundabouts to a major intersection (with the University's Medical and Biological Sciences building to your left). Follow this road into a 30mph area after which you will come to a set of traffic lights (with Forte Travelodge on your left), carry straight over and follow the road round to the right, take the first exit after this (you should have a solicitors and Royal Bank of Scotland on your left). You should be able to see the VARSITY pub on the first road on your right. If coming from the west, the 4th exit. Follow the A335 dual carriageway through 2 sets of traffic lights. At the 3rd set, the road divides. Turn right onto Burgess Road (McDonald's will be on your left). Carry along this road through 3 sets of traffic lights at the 4th (with the University's Medical and Biological Sciences building to your right)turn left this will get you on to A33 follow this road into a 30mph limit... (see above) Hope that this makes sense, any problems I will have my mobile with me: 07799065713 Cheers Sally ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Jan 31 11:08:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f0VB5oM28652 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0VB5jX28618 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:45 GMT Received: from claudio.bib.co.uk (gateway.bib.co.uk [195.171.24.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f0VB5j629930 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:45 GMT Received: from 127.0.0.1 by claudio.bib.co.uk (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:33 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: by claudio with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:33 -0000 Message-ID: <36086CC80304D3119B040008C75DF596050CF31F@claudio> From: "Sheridan, Daniel" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: Bristol Indoors Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:05:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Is anybody looking for pickups that weekend? I have been playing a while and just want to play another indoor tournie. If anybody is please reply to daniel.sheridan@open-talk.co.uk Cheers Dan (Nightfever & Lurkers) _______________________________________________________________________ This message is confidential and is intended for the addressee only; unless clearly stated that this disclaimer should not apply, this e-mail is not intended to create legally binding commitments on behalf of any company in the British Interactive Broadcasting Holdings Limited group, nor do its contents reflect the corporate views or policies of any such company. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. _______________________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 1 14:33:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f11EG2I22023 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:16:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f11EFrO21960 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:15:53 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f11EFmS25967 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:15:52 GMT Message-Id: <200102011415.f11EFmS25967@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: from [62.252.1.47] [62.252.1.47] (jgoolden@totalise.co.uk) by mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:15:38 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 1 Feb 01 14:15:38 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:17:07 +0000 Subject: chevron>rimini From: "jack" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f11EFrO21963 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Due to some last minute drop-outs, chevron are looking for an experienced pick-up for Rimini. Anyone interested needs to get in touch asap, as tournament fees need to be paid up shortly. The T fees (inc. acomadation, parties, meals etc) are about £130, and flights range from £120- £200 l;ast time I checked. jack -- Jack Goolden www.malago.co.uk 07968720331 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 1 15:15:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f11FBiT12742 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:11:44 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f11FBdO12708 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:11:40 GMT Received: from web906.mail.yahoo.com (web906.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.81]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f11FBcS08482 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:11:39 GMT Received: (qmail 762 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2001 15:11:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20010201151133.761.qmail@web906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.113.57.163] by web906.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:11:33 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:11:33 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Christian=20Nistri?= Subject: Re: chevron>rimini To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are your prospects looking any better than 32nd? I think that there are some Distant Cousins who will want to play Wigsy --- jack wrote: > Due to some last minute drop-outs, chevron are > looking for an experienced > pick-up for Rimini. > > Anyone interested needs to get in touch asap, as > tournament fees need to be > paid up shortly. > > The T fees (inc. acomadation, parties, meals etc) > are about £130, and > flights range from £120- £200 l;ast time I checked. > > > > jack > > > > -- > > Jack Goolden > www.malago.co.uk > > 07968720331 > ===== "That’s some catch, that Catch-22," "It’s the best there was" __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 09:05:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1291YA23057 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:01:34 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1291VO23040 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:01:31 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:03:47 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "British Ultimate Federation" Subject: Update your team contact details TODAY! Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "British Ultimate Federation" Subject: Update your team contact details TODAY! Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:43:25 -0000 On Monday night we will take a snapshot of the contact teams database from the website to use for mail-outs regarding the Indoor Qualifiers and Finals. You have until then to make sure your team's details are up to date. Please read the instructions carefully - I have had several teams trying to make duplicate registrations - you don't need to do this. If the email addresses listed against your team are obsolete make an *update* anyway then email buf@ultimateweb.co.uk to let me know its bona fide. If your team contact is a slacker do something about it or you may not get an invite. Apologies to those who receive this twice. Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 11:47:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f12BjPw08467 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:45:25 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f12BjIO08418; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:45:18 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:47:41 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, bdga@yahoogroups From: Dave Neilson Subject: Warwick Bears 25: Update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f12BjLO08436 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To: britdisc & bdga readers Following on from our December announcement about the up-coming 25th Anniversary of the Warwick Bears Frisbee Club, here is the latest news. The '25th Anniversary Organising Group' (six strong at present, but expected to grow with your help) have put together a web database of as many Old Bears as we can brainstorm. Those on this list will soon be receiving the first mailshot to inform them of plans, and seek their help, support and commitment for the celebration event. You can check out if you are already on this list by visiting the Old Bears website at: http://oldbears.ranulf.net/ There will soon be many more facilities on this website, but even now you can update your contact details and browse through the list of fellow Old Bears - maybe you can remember some that we have missed?! Below is a preview of the letter which will go into the post over the next few days [NB The address used will be the one on record with the WGA / Alumni Office, which may or may not be completely up-to-date, also the WGA cannot disclose all the addresses it holds, so it would help us a lot if you let us have your current contact details (by post, e-mail or via the website)]. Cheers Sam Neilson [Bears 1981-1984] =========== START WARWICK UNIVERSITY FRISBEE CLUB - 25th ANNIVERSARY 13 Ashfield Road, Kenilworth, Warwickshire, CV8 2BE 31st January 2001 Dear Old Bear, The Warwick University Frisbee Club will be 25 years old on 27th October 2001. Time for a party, I think. Yes, the club has been in existence continuously since Wednesday 27th October 1976, when fifteen people assembled in the ground floor of Rootes (a completely different place then to the upmarket conference reception of today) before trekking over to the "Health Centre Field" (now buried under the Jack Martin residences) to be introduced to the game of Ultimate Frisbee. This unbroken history is quite amazing in the context of student societies outside of the mainstream sports and is also unusual in UK ultimate. In fact Warwick is probably one of the two or three longest-established ultimate clubs in the world. Something about the combination of the game and the place seems to have ensured that each new generation of students has carried the club forwards and had a significant impact on the development of the sport in the UK. An anniversary well worth celebrating, then. If players from each of those generations come back for the celebrations it will be an amazing event, and a huge one. Plans are taking shape for a dinner and a mini-tournament, events for children and partners, commemorative videos and who knows what else (zimmer frame races for the oldies, probably). Will you be there? As it happens, 27th October 2001 will be a Saturday, so that is the likely date for the event. Please return the form on the next page as soon as possible, to confirm that you are interested in attending and also to let us know if you can help in any way. Don't forget to let us have as many names and addresses as you can dig out; with the help of the WGA we hope to contact everyone who has been active in the club over the last 25 years. As I wrote 15 years ago, when we organised the 10th Anniversary dinner: This should be the biggest celebration the club has seen - be there! Richard Hicks First President of the Frisbee Club On behalf of the 25th Anniversary Organising Group [FOOTER: Please send paper replies to Richard Hicks at the address shown at the top of this letter. You can also e-mail sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk and check out the website: http://oldbears.ranulf.net/] WARWICK UNIVERSITY FRISBEE CLUB - 25th ANNIVERSARY Please tick / delete as appropriate and provide as much information as you can. We will only use your contact details for Old Bears correspondence. This letter may have been posted to you by the WGA / Alumni Office, so please provide us with your current address. Name: - I am interested in attending the Anniversary celebrations in October 2001. - I will not be able to attend the Anniversary, but please add my details to the Old Bears list. Course and Year: Current address: Telephone: E-mail: Are you likely to be accompanied by a partner? And children? Will you require accommodation? Would you be prepared to help with any aspect of the organisation? - between now and the event? - during the event itself? Might you be able to help us obtain sponsorship for the event? Please list all the previous players' addresses that you know below. Also add any comments or suggestions which you have regarding the celebrations. Thanks. Name Course Year Current Address - Or: Last Known Address (if known) (and date) [FOOTER: Please send paper replies to Richard Hicks at the address shown at the top of this letter. You can also e-mail sammy@frisbee.fsbusiness.co.uk and check out the website: http://oldbears.ranulf.net/] =========== END From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 13:03:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f12CxTQ02414 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:59:29 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f12CxRO02398 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:59:27 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f12CxQr12683 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:59:26 GMT Received: from cs742232.central.susx.ac.uk ([139.184.124.26]) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 14Ofn6-0001rd-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:58:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:59:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmuj5@central.susx.ac.uk (James Houghton) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Pickups wanted for Sublime Squaws in Southampton X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmuj5@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have been asked to mail britdisc to see if there are any people who are looking to pick up at the weekend. As our second team is a little short as several people have dropped out at the last minute. If you can then speak to Lucy from the Squaws tomorrow or Sally, TD. Thanks a lot James, Mohawks. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 2 18:26:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f12ILvG12320 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:21:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f12ILuO12315 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:21:56 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h007.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.107]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f12ILkr06432 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:21:46 GMT Received: (cpmta 4840 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2001 18:21:28 +0000 Date: 2 Feb 2001 18:21:28 +0000 Message-ID: <20010202182128.4839.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 2 Feb 2001 18:21:28 GMT Received: from [212.139.34.215] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 02 Feb 2001 18:21:28 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.2 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Practice and pick-up game in Birmingham this Sunday. Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone up for an outdoors game in Birmingham this Sunday, come along to the SlipDisc practice at midday. Numbers should be good. Contact me for details and directions. Mal. \\!// mta99@bigfoot.com [o o] 07740 194 504 \-/ 0121 472 3694 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 10:24:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f15AIp017138 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:18:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15AInF17129 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:18:50 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15AIig17222 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:18:44 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02755 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:18:40 GMT Received: from B45B-10.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45b-10.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.55]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f15AIdV27809 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:18:39 GMT From: sal Reply-To: hsp298@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Women's Results Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:18:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks once again to all thsoe who played helped out and supported at the weekend. The results are as follows: 1. The Family Jewells 2. Mavis 3. BAF 4. Janet Hawes 5. Bears 6. Skunks 7. Angels 8. Strange Blue 9. Sublime Squaws 1 10. Filth 11. Disco 12. Sublime Squaws 2 MVP- Diana (family jewells) Spirit- Janet Hawes Still have lost property clothes mainly and water bottles let me know if you think any of these are yours Cheers Sally ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 5 21:48:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f15Ljal09085 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:45:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15LjYh09074 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:45:34 GMT Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15LjXY14131 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:45:34 GMT Received: from modem-246.muellers-butterfly.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.217.246] helo=jacksoniii) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14PtRc-0000yu-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:45:08 +0000 From: richard@jacksons5.freeserve.co.uk To: BritDisc Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:48:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Pick-Up for Bristol X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Anyone need an extra player? Cheers Richard Jackson (Jacko, LD) GB Juniors & Total Muppets #42 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 10:38:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17AZov27594 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:35:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17AZnh27581 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:35:49 GMT Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f17AZmY02227 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:35:48 GMT Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:30:33 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:30:20 +0000 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: pick up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f17AZnh27584 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, I know it's a bit early but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm looking to pick up on this years tour and at the Indoor regionals in Loughborough. So if any teams require a 6 foot, slightly out of shape, 20 year old handler who has been playing for about 3 years then I'm your man :o) cheers, Matt ¯-------------------------- matthewl@fisher.co.uk matthew.lowe@ntlworld.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 10:38:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17AXoA26975 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:50 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17AXlh26962 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:47 GMT Received: from smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.105]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17AXgF13202 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:42 GMT Received: from pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.113]) by smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32089 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:37 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27422; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:37 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Mixed Series To: BritDisc Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:33:37 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Wed Feb 7 10:33:37 2001; Local host: pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I hear rumours that the open Tour dates are just about finalised (nice work, Chris), so... Is there any news on the Mixed Series? Nancy*- are you still in charge? Wayne Retter * smalltalk: Hi! how are you? -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 11:00:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17AxFh05044 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:59:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17AxDh05035 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:59:13 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17AxDY06464 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:59:13 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:58:31 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1KYMJ753>; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:57:14 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: Indoors and Tour Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:57:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Indoors; Apologies for some the large amounts of confusion - events have been playing musical chairs. The invites are going in post tomorrow, so expect them before the weekend. The events are; 24/25th of April - London (I am aware that this clashes with Student Nationals, and is very short notice - we were lucky to get this) 3/4 March - B'Ham 3/4 March - Sheffield (Apologies for the last Email from me - Loughborough were never hosting the event, I was being stupid) 10/11 March - Plymouth (Again another replacement for Portsmouth) 10/11 March - Dundee The rules allow you to enter any event of your choice, and priority is based on first come first served. Entries MUST be sent to the relevant TD, at the relevant contact address. These details will be in the invites sent out. Finals - 24/25th March in Cheltenham Tour The dates are set, and will be sent out in the indoors invites - I am not releasing them here because there are still two issues to be dealt with before going public, since I do not want to have to change info mid season. Thank you all for your patience - this year has been one of the most difficult to organise and it hasn't even started. Chris Hughes DoC Feeling very stressed And you can all stop hassling me now!! ___________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes Lecturer in Biomechanics School of Sport Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education Hardwick Campus St Paul's Road Cheltenham GL50 4BS 01242 543299 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 14:08:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17E3fk03964 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:03:41 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17E3ch03947 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:03:38 GMT Received: from scanner.tesco.net (scanner.btinternet.com [194.73.73.70]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17E3NF16657 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:03:23 GMT Received: from dialup.62-172-21-27.tesco.net ([62.172.21.27] helo=Nancy) by scanner.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14QVBo-0005Cf-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:03:20 +0000 Message-ID: <003601c0910e$44cf9b80$1b15ac3e@Stebbing> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" References: Subject: Re: Mixed Series Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:59:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > I hear rumours that the open Tour dates are just about finalised (nice work, Chris), so... > > Is there any news on the Mixed Series? > Nancy*- are you still in charge? Still in charge, if you can call it that. Once tour dates are announced, we can see what we can arrange in terms of co-ed dates. Hopefully, teams will be as helpful and keen about holding events as they were last year! nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 14:58:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17EYTH12838 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:34:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17EYEh12748 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:34:15 GMT Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17EY6Y20902 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:34:13 GMT Received: from iswspub476.psv.aber.ac.uk ([144.124.1.99] helo=ISWSPUB476) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14QVfU-0005IV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:34:00 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010207143400.008bf968@pophost.aber.ac.uk> X-Sender: all7@pophost.aber.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:34:00 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: DAVID ALEXANDER LEVERTON Subject: Your old Aber account! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi there Sorry about this, but I thought I should let you know that I've just returned to Aberystwyth and been allocated the all7 username (I was ddl7), which means I'm getting all the mail aimed at the previous user of the account - you, I believe...? Since there's a lot of mail appearing in the inbox that's apparently being forwarded from your 'britdisc' address, I thought I'd write to it to try and find you. Assuming that account is set up to forward/copy mail to this one, I'd be grateful if you could disable any such function - I've had about 50 messages aimed at you in the last few days! Cheers; David Leverton. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 15:03:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17ExOl23304 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:59:24 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17ExCh23258 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:59:13 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17Ex7Y26577 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:59:07 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:58:30 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1KYMJ97H>; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:57:13 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Jack Goolden'" Cc: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Indoors and Tour Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:57:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >24/25th of April - London (I am aware that this clashes with Student >Nationals, and is very short notice - we were lucky to get this) Sorry - 24/25 February -----Original Message----- From: Jack Goolden [mailto:jgoolden@totalise.co.uk] Sent: 07 February 2001 14:54 To: HUGHES, Chris Subject: RE: Indoors and Tour 24/25th of April? Thats midweek! jack chevy > >24/25th of April - London (I am aware that this clashes with Student >Nationals, and is very short notice - we were lucky to get this) >3/4 March - B'Ham >3/4 March - Sheffield (Apologies for the last Email from me - Loughborough >were never hosting the event, I was being stupid) >10/11 March - Plymouth (Again another replacement for Portsmouth) >10/11 March - Dundee > >The rules allow you to enter any event of your choice, and priority is based >on first come first served. Entries MUST be sent to the relevant TD, at the >relevant contact address. These details will be in the invites sent out. > >Finals - 24/25th March in Cheltenham > >Tour > >The dates are set, and will be sent out in the indoors invites - I am not >releasing them here because there are still two issues to be dealt with >before going public, since I do not want to have to change info mid season. > >Thank you all for your patience - this year has been one of the most >difficult to organise and it hasn't even started. > >Chris Hughes >DoC > >Feeling very stressed >And you can all stop hassling me now!! > > >___________________________________________________________ > > Chris Hughes > Lecturer in Biomechanics > School of Sport > Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education > Hardwick Campus > St Paul's Road > Cheltenham > GL50 4BS > > 01242 543299 ----------------------- Sell Art with GetSomeArt - FREE register at http://www.getsomeart.com quoting reference TOTSEL From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 17:57:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17HrMc16987 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:53:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17HrKh16975 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:53:20 GMT Received: from bucky.excite.com (bucky-rwcmex.excite.com [198.3.99.218]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17HrJF23574 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:53:19 GMT Received: from dotty.excite.com ([199.172.152.205]) by bucky.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010207175310.DGNC20854.bucky.excite.com@dotty.excite.com> for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:53:10 -0800 Message-ID: <474086.981568390568.JavaMail.imail@dotty.excite.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:53:10 -0800 (PST) From: Lucy Archer To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A friendly game in Wales anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 194.83.88.37 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Pembrokeshire ultimate frisbee are a new team just started up in Pembrokeshire, Wales, and are challenging any team, who dare try, to a friendly game. Any team wanting to try their luck then please get in touch. we have all played before, train twice a week, but have only just recently got together and called ourselves a team. Cardiff or Aber, you're not too far away, are you out there somewhere? Cheers Lucy Archer (PUF!) _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 19:17:21 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17JEjU03971 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:14:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17JEih03959 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:14:44 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17JEcF02877 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:14:43 GMT Received: from dadscomp ([62.255.236.130]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010207191437.OQMG10171.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@dadscomp> for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:14:37 +0000 Message-ID: <009a01c09139$f8efc380$0200a8c0@dadscomp> From: "Matthew Lowe" To: "BritDisc \(E-mail\)" References: Subject: Re: Indoors and Tour Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:56:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hmm, ok, I'll change my earlier requested :) Is anybody looking for a pick up player for the Tour and regional indoors in Sheffield. If you are, I'm your man!! You can contact me at matthewl@fisher.co.uk or matthew.lowe@ntlworld.com Cheers, Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 10:57 AM Subject: Indoors and Tour > All, > > Indoors; > > Apologies for some the large amounts of confusion - events have been playing > musical chairs. The invites are going in post tomorrow, so expect them > before the weekend. The events are; > > 24/25th of April - London (I am aware that this clashes with Student > Nationals, and is very short notice - we were lucky to get this) > 3/4 March - B'Ham > 3/4 March - Sheffield (Apologies for the last Email from me - Loughborough > were never hosting the event, I was being stupid) > 10/11 March - Plymouth (Again another replacement for Portsmouth) > 10/11 March - Dundee > > The rules allow you to enter any event of your choice, and priority is based > on first come first served. Entries MUST be sent to the relevant TD, at the > relevant contact address. These details will be in the invites sent out. > > Finals - 24/25th March in Cheltenham > > Tour > > The dates are set, and will be sent out in the indoors invites - I am not > releasing them here because there are still two issues to be dealt with > before going public, since I do not want to have to change info mid season. > > Thank you all for your patience - this year has been one of the most > difficult to organise and it hasn't even started. > > Chris Hughes > DoC > > Feeling very stressed > And you can all stop hassling me now!! > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Chris Hughes > Lecturer in Biomechanics > School of Sport > Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education > Hardwick Campus > St Paul's Road > Cheltenham > GL50 4BS > > 01242 543299 > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 7 21:45:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f17Lfpf29381 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:41:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17Lfnh29374 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:41:49 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f49.hotmail.com [216.32.181.49]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f17LfmY17720 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:41:48 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:41:37 -0800 Received: from 62.188.67.172 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:41:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.188.67.172] From: "Martin Cross" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Practices in Milton Keynes or surrounding area? Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:41:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2001 21:41:37.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFD41DC0:01C0914E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Are there any practices at the moment, indoors or out, in the Milton Keynes or surrounding area? I've played for a couple of years and fancied a chuck about. Please can you let me know where and when. Cheers, Martin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 14:52:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f19EgA706032 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:42:10 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f19Eg9h06026 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:42:09 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.43]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f19Eg3Y08655 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:42:04 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 06:41:56 -0800 Received: from 205.188.199.162 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:41:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.199.162] From: "Kilkenny Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: trouble subscribing Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:41:55 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2001 14:41:56.0061 (UTC) FILETIME=[732820D0:01C092A6] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk
To whoever is in charge of the list,
 
I am having trouble subscribing to britdisc, despite doing exactly what it says to do on the BUF website. If whoever does such things could subscribe me to the list I would be most greatful. Ta.
 
Ian Cuddihy
 
ps sorry to bother everyone else with this small matter.

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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 17:19:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f19HG9O23761 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:16:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f19HG7h23750 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:16:07 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f19HG6F21123 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:16:07 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:15:32 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1KYMK34T>; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:14:16 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: Indoor Nationals Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:14:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All Invites to Indoor Nationals went in the post today - 1st class so expect them on your doorstep tomorrow (assuming Royal Mail keeps its end of the bargain) There are 84 slots available around the country up for grabs. You need to get your replies in early. Entries will be accepted by first come first served, and will only be accepted by tournament directors when accompanied by money. 2nd and 3rd teams are not precluded from entering, and will have the rights of entry as other teams. You will need to enter your team's roster on the BUF Website. This must be done before 22nd February, otherwise teams will not qualify for indoor finals. Enter your rosters on the buf website, by going to your team details page and then following the links. Chris DoC ___________________________________________________________ Chris Hughes Lecturer in Biomechanics School of Sport Cheltenham & Gloucester College of Higher Education Hardwick Campus St Paul's Road Cheltenham GL50 4BS 01242 543299 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 9 18:17:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f19IFVH06526 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:15:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f19IFTh06519 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:15:29 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h006.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f19IFSF27274 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:15:29 GMT Received: (cpmta 13401 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2001 18:15:11 +0000 Date: 9 Feb 2001 18:15:11 +0000 Message-ID: <20010209181511.13400.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 9 Feb 2001 18:15:11 GMT Received: from [212.140.65.32] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 09 Feb 2001 18:15:11 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: samuel rey X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.6 Subject: Nottingham Tourni Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well i guess its on... There are 2 team places available... If anyone out there is interested in coming along please call Sam 07866 336643 or mail to Samanir@breathe.com alternatively cheques deadline is Friday 16 February Please post £70 payable to TNTUUS (Ultimate Frisbee) sendable to Ultimate Frisbee Byron House Shakespeare Street Nottingham NG1 but hurry sam ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 10 16:08:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1AG5e424715 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:05:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1AG5ch24706 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:05:38 GMT Received: from usryws04.merck.com (pepe.merck.com [155.91.6.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1AG5bF23036 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:05:37 GMT Received: from 155.91.2.105 by usryws04.merck.com with SMTP (WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:59:49 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: f2a5c32c-a38f-11d4-9435-00508be31830 Received: from 155.91.2.100 by usryws04.merck.com with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Mon, 05 Feb 2001 06:24:24 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: f2a5c32c-a38f-11d4-9435-00508be31830 Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.30]) by mgw1.merck.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #36699) with ESMTP id <01JZQP7W8TBA0022F6@mgw1.merck.com> for neil_wilkie@merck.com; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:25:50 EST Received: from pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (daemon@pansy [137.205.192.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15AMeC15427; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:22:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk ( 8.10.1/8.9.3) id f15AIp017138 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:18:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15AInF17129 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:18:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f15AIig17222 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02755 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from B45B-10.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b45b-10.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.26.55]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f15AIdV27809 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:18: 39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 10:18:40 +0000 (GMT) From: "sal" Subject: Women's Results To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Reply-to: hsp298@soton.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none X-WSS-ID: 169BBAFF1025569-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks once again to all thsoe who played helped out and supported at the weekend. The results are as follows: 1. The Family Jewells 2. Mavis 3. BAF 4. Janet Hawes 5. Bears 6. Skunks 7. Angels 8. Strange Blue 9. Sublime Squaws 1 10. Filth 11. Disco 12. Sublime Squaws 2 MVP- Diana (family jewells) Spirit- Janet Hawes Still have lost property clothes mainly and water bottles let me know if you think any of these are yours Cheers Sally ---------------------- sal hsp298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 11 09:56:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1B9qdX16815 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:52:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1B9qch16809 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:52:38 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h009.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.109]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1B9qWY03443 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:52:33 GMT Received: (cpmta 28026 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2001 09:52:26 +0000 Date: 11 Feb 2001 09:52:26 +0000 Message-ID: <20010211095226.28025.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 11 Feb 2001 09:52:26 GMT Received: from [212.139.33.129] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 11 Feb 2001 09:52:26 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.8.1.6 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Update - Midlands Regionals (Birmingham) - Update Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In addition to the 'info' in the entry pack, here are a few additional details that may sway your decision. =============================================== Midland Regional Qualifier (March 3/4) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ For your £80 entry fee you get 1 pitch, 12 teams, over 2 hours pitch time, playing times (Sat 12-7:30ish, Sun 9-6) that allow you plenty of time to break yourselves into the weekend, party in private venue. Some accommodation available with SlipDisc players and local B+Bs / Travelodge. Tournie venue in easy throwing (?!?!) distance of Tesco's (5 mins walk), student Union (1 min walk), selection of Balti Houses (~12 to choose from), closest pub Gun Barrels (2 mins). Come on, you know it makes sense. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If that sheds any more light on it, then good. Contact 'Lars' on address in info pack. Mal. SlipDisc aka MBM \\!// mta99@bigfoot.com [o o] 07740 194 504 \-/ 0121 472 3694 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 11:57:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CBqod08833 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:52:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CBqlh08815 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:52:47 GMT Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CBqeY29253 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:52:40 GMT Received: from kmcbglenn (dialup408.brugge.skynet.be [194.78.237.24]) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.09) with SMTP id f1CBqLS05431 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:52:21 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Reply-To: From: "Glenn Nolf" To: "BritDisc \(E-mail\)" Subject: Britdisc, Tom's Tourney 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:49:47 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01c094ea$19e48a40$6b1ca8c0@kmcbglenn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C094F2.7BA8F240" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C094F2.7BA8F240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Brugge, 3 oktober 1997Dear ultimateplayers, On May 5th and 6th we’ll organise our 9th international ultimate tournament “Tom’s Tourney” in Brugge. If you would like to join a great weekend please read on. You can register on-line on our website. Just keep in mind that we can accept 24 teams, so don’t wait too long. Players-fee is set at 500 Bef (12,39 Eur) per person. There is no additional team-fee. We organise the over-night stay(s) in two youth-hotels in town : “Bauhaus” (460 Bef or 11,40 Eur per night, ± 10 minutes from the playing fields, 20 beds on Friday and 60 on Saturday) and “Europa” (430 Bef or 10,66 Eur per night, ± 15 minutes from the playing fields, 60 beds on Friday and 120 beds on Saturday). In both youth-hotels breakfast is included but you will have to bring your own sleeping-bag. If they are both fully booked, you will have to stay in the camping or make your own arrangements, so first come first serve ... The camping is located 500 meters from the playing fields and costs 145 Bef (3,59 Eur) per person plus 135 Bef per tent and 135 Bef (3,35 Eur) per car. If you would like to stay somewhere else please contact us. The Saturday-evening dinner will cost about 450 Bef (11,16 Eur) per person. Since we haven’t decided what we’ll have for dinner, the price isn’t yet set. When we receive your registration form and money (a crossed Eurocheque, for other modes of payment : please contact us), we'll send you a confirmation. A letter with all tourney details will follow in the second week of April. Check out our web-site to see which teams are registered and to find out all extra info. You’ll also find pictures and video from the last couple of years. Top-4 in the last 5 years : 1996 22 teams Red Lights (NL) XLR8RS (B) Under the influence (GB) Violently happy (GB) 1997 24 teams Tartarus (USA) Violently Happy (GB) Crunch (NL) XLR8RS (B) 1998 24 teams Violently Happy (GB) Invalids (F) Fluid Druids (GB) XLR8RS (B) 1999 24 teams Red Lights (NL) Ultimatum (F) Belgian National Team Sun (F) 2000 23 teams Dutch National Team + Iznogood (F) Circus on the run (NL) XLR8RS (B) See you soon !!! Glenn Nolf Freezzz Beezzz Viaduktstraat 6 B8000 Brugge Email : glenn@km.be Web : www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C094F2.7BA8F240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brugge, 3 oktober 1997

Dear=20 ultimateplayers,

 

On=20 May 5th and 6th we’ll organise our = 9th=20 international ultimate tournament “Tom’s Tourney” in=20 Brugge.

 

If=20 you would like to join a great weekend please read=20 on.

 

You=20 can register on-line on our website. Just keep in mind that we can = accept 24=20 teams, so don’t wait too long.

 

Players-fee=20 is set at 500 Bef (12,39 Eur) per person. There is no additional=20 team-fee.

 

We=20 organise the over-night stay(s) in two youth-hotels in town : = “Bauhaus” (460 Bef=20 or 11,40 Eur per night, =B1 10 minutes from the playing fields, 20 beds = on Friday=20 and 60 on Saturday) and “Europa” =20 (430 Bef or 10,66 Eur per night, =B1 15 minutes from the = playing=20 fields, 60 beds on Friday and 120 beds on Saturday). In both = youth-hotels=20 breakfast is included but you will have to bring your own sleeping-bag. = If they=20 are both fully booked, you will have to stay in the camping or make your = own=20 arrangements, so first come first serve ... The camping is located 500 = meters=20 from the playing fields and costs 145 Bef (3,59 Eur) per person plus 135 = Bef per=20 tent and 135 Bef (3,35 Eur) per car. If you would like to stay somewhere = else=20 please contact us.

The=20 Saturday-evening dinner will cost about 450 Bef (11,16 Eur) per person. = Since we=20 haven’t decided what we’ll have for dinner, the price = isn’t yet=20 set.

 

When=20 we receive your registration form and money (a crossed Eurocheque, for = other=20 modes of payment : please contact us), we'll send you a confirmation. A = letter=20 with all tourney details will follow in the second week of=20 April.

 

Check=20 out our web-site to see which teams are registered and to find out all = extra=20 info. You’ll also find pictures and video from the last couple of = years.=20

 

Top-4=20 in the last 5 years :

 

1996

22=20 teams

Red=20 Lights (NL)
XLR8RS (B)
Under the influence (GB)
Violently = happy=20 (GB)

1997

24=20 teams

Tartarus=20 (USA)
Violently Happy (GB)
Crunch (NL)
XLR8RS (B)

1998

24=20 teams

Violently=20 Happy (GB)
Invalids (F)
Fluid Druids (GB)
XLR8RS (B)

1999

24=20 teams

Red=20 Lights (NL)

Ultimatum=20 (F)

Belgian=20 National Team

Sun=20 (F)

2000

23=20 teams

Dutch=20 National Team

+=20 Iznogood (F)

Circus=20 on the run (NL)

XLR8RS=20 (B)

 

See=20 you soon !!!

 

Glenn=20 Nolf

Freezzz=20 Beezzz
Viaduktstraat 6
B8000 Brugge

Email=20 : glenn@km.be

Web=20 : www.brugge.com/freezzzbeezzz

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C094F2.7BA8F240-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 12:59:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CCrr529324 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:53:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CCrph29305 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:53:51 GMT Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CCrjY13247 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:53:50 GMT Received: from sis.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:53:33 +0000 Received: from chte026.chm.bris.ac.uk (chte026.chm.bris.ac.uk [137.222.46.125]) by sis.bris.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07991; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:50:56 GMT From: MOJO Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:50:55 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@yahoogroups.com Subject: MYTHAGO INDOOR TOURNAMENT 2001&LostProperty Reply-To: jc7775@bristol.ac.uk Message-ID: X-Mailer: Execmail for Win32 Version 5.0.1 Build (55) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk MYTHAGO INDOOR TOURNAMENT 2001 Thanks to everyone who attended (especially those who travelled from far and wide) and made the event such a success. Apologies to the Night Fever player who got knocked out at the club (who said Ultimate was non-contact?) and congratulations to the two student teams who made it to the final. 16th Bath - THE WOODEN SPOON 15th Mythago 3 14th UWE 13th No Frills 12th Mythago 2 11th Skunks 10th Angels 9th Blue Arse Flies Too - PLATE WINNERS -------------------------------------- 8th Playthings 7th Mythago 6th Sneekys 5th Blue Arse Flies 4th Night Fever 3rd Discult 2nd Phat Eds ************************************** 1st CUP WINNERS: MOHAWKS ************************************** * MVP of the Final was Dave (Phat Eds) * * The Spirit Vote was tied between: * SKUNKS and BLUE ARSE FLIES LOST PROPERTY Timex Triathlon digital watch Layout dreams cap Navy "blue inc." trousers Black hooded "catch the spirit" top Night Fever's Trojan T-shirt Purple "animal" long sleeved top Black "catch the spirit" T-shirt with St Andrews logo Contact me if it's yours, cheers, Jon. Mythago __________________________________ PI EATER jc7775@bristol.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 13:29:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CDRHM10037 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:27:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CDREh10018 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:27:14 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CDRDY20307 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:27:13 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA32963 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:28:14 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200102121328.NAA32963@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:31:05 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1CDRFh10026 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. Two halls 12 teams... 8 places available get on it Sam Rey TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? Main Email: samanir@breathe.com Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 Mobile: 07866 336643 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Lindsay Cuthbertson 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 Mobile: 07776 187819 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 13:36:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CDYgF12530 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:34:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CDYeh12520 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:34:41 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CDYeF02019 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:34:40 GMT Received: from cs701080.central.susx.ac.uk ([139.184.136.16]) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 14SJ6Y-0000jc-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:33:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:34:36 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmu32@central.susx.ac.uk (Nicole Roberts) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: women's nationals - lost property X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmu32@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We lost a red mohawks wife beater at women's nationals at southampton. If anyone knows of it's whereabouts could you please mail me and let me know. Tah Nicole squaws From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 14:49:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CEZKJ03422 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:35:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CEYqh03306 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:34:52 GMT Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CEYnY07820 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:34:51 GMT Message-Id: <200102121434.f1CEYnY07820@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:31:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling island hurricane. Coz Ultimate rules! Stig ---------- From: British Ultimate Federation To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: BUF Events Reminder Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds sunday afternnon. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net Home Phone: 01622871640 Mobile: 07887628544 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. Two halls 12 teams... 8 places available get on it Sam Rey TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? Main Email: samanir@breathe.com Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 Mobile: 07866 336643 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Lindsay Cuthbertson 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 Mobile: 07776 187819 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 16:05:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CFq1V02897 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:52:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CFplh02817 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:49 GMT Received: from [212.135.235.186] (dsl-212-135-235-186.dsl.easynet.co.uk [212.135.235.186]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1CFpkF26561 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:46 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.5] by daletaylor.co.uk (CommuniGate SMTP 2.9) with ESMTP id S.003501566005 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:29:00 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:51:34 +0000 Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder From: Nolan To: Britdisc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200102121434.f1CEYnY07820@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk At last someone has said what I've been thinking for about three years. I really can't be bothered reading the events reminder anymore, as I have to wade through detritus to get to any real sport. Let's do it. I'm sure the golfers can manage setting up their own mailout. BUF does stand for British ULTIMATE Federation, or did I miss something? Nolan > From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:31:00 -0000 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder > > When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? > > I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling > island hurricane. > > Coz Ultimate rules! > > Stig > > ---------- > From: British Ultimate Federation > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 > > BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ > ____________________________________________________________ > > 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. > 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds > sunday afternnon. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net > Home Phone: 01622871640 > Mobile: 07887628544 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG > Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] > > If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come > and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. > > Two halls > 12 teams... > 8 places available > > get on it > > Sam Rey > TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? > Main Email: samanir@breathe.com > Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com > Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 > Mobile: 07866 336643 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > Lindsay Cuthbertson > 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , > Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk > Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 > Mobile: 07776 187819 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and time to be confirmed > > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] > > To be confirmed closer to date > > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: chughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING > Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] > > 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 > Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, > England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with > "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due > to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the > biggest and best ever. > > http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate > > Oisin Flanagan > 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , > Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com > Home Phone: 01 4971862 > Mobile: 086 312 3364 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY > Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to > 40mins > Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or > Campsite > Dinner available on Saturday night > Saturday night party > GREAT BEER > > http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm > > Glenn Nolf > Main Email: glenn@km.be > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN > Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] > > 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 > (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE > Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] > > 4th leg bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > 5th leg bdga tour 2001 > also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC > Location: london - [Disc Golf] > > leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. > event and venue to be confirmed > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS > Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > > > http://eucc.frisbee.cz > > TBC > Main Email: TBC > ____________________________________________________________ > > 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN > Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] > > 7th bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN > Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] > > leg 8 bdga tour 2001 > date and venue tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 > Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 9 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN > Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 10 > the last open event of this years tour > date tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 16:16:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CG95B09619 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:09:05 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CG8uh09573 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:08:57 GMT Received: from oxmail.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CG8fY26918 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:08:41 GMT Received: from wing6.herald.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.0.230] ident=exim) by oxmail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14SLWq-0004zM-00; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:08:40 +0000 Received: from httpd by wing6.herald.ox.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.02 #1) id 14SLWq-0006rR-00; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:08:40 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.103 (Entity 4.115) From: Matthew Woods Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:08:40 +0000 (GMT) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, student-ultimate@yahoogroups.com Subject: Calling Charlie Ben-Nathan Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Charlie - Last month I sent you a cheque for the 24hour charity tourni, but it's been returned to me by the Post Office - can you e-mail me your correct address so I can get it to you? Sorry to put this on the list, but I don't have your e-mail address, Matt Woods(OW!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 16:41:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CGMjC14729 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:22:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CGLOh14467 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:21:24 GMT Received: from eugate01.e-mail.com (eugate01.e-mail.com [194.196.143.93]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CGLNY29688 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:21:23 GMT Received: Received: by eugate.e-mail.com with ESMTP id QAA92518 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:19:45 GMT Received: by roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:20:35 -0000 Message-ID: <9DFF74641994D11187F4080009CBF4BB0174F891@roomuw-mail.roomuw.co.uk> From: "Evans, Alex" To: Britdisc Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:20:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could we also separate the ultimate from the indoors? Alex -----Original Message----- From: Nolan [mailto:nolan@daletaylor.co.uk] Sent: 12 February 2001 15:52 To: Britdisc Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder At last someone has said what I've been thinking for about three years. I really can't be bothered reading the events reminder anymore, as I have to wade through detritus to get to any real sport. Let's do it. I'm sure the golfers can manage setting up their own mailout. BUF does stand for British ULTIMATE Federation, or did I miss something? Nolan > From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:31:00 -0000 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder > > When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? > > I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling > island hurricane. > > Coz Ultimate rules! > > Stig > > ---------- > From: British Ultimate Federation > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 > > BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ > ____________________________________________________________ > > 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. > 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds > sunday afternnon. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net > Home Phone: 01622871640 > Mobile: 07887628544 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG > Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] > > If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come > and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. > > Two halls > 12 teams... > 8 places available > > get on it > > Sam Rey > TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? > Main Email: samanir@breathe.com > Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com > Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 > Mobile: 07866 336643 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > Lindsay Cuthbertson > 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , > Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk > Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 > Mobile: 07776 187819 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and time to be confirmed > > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] > > To be confirmed closer to date > > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: chughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING > Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] > > 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 > Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, > England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with > "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due > to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the > biggest and best ever. > > http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate > > Oisin Flanagan > 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , > Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com > Home Phone: 01 4971862 > Mobile: 086 312 3364 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY > Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to > 40mins > Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or > Campsite > Dinner available on Saturday night > Saturday night party > GREAT BEER > > http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm > > Glenn Nolf > Main Email: glenn@km.be > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN > Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] > > 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 > (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE > Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] > > 4th leg bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > 5th leg bdga tour 2001 > also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC > Location: london - [Disc Golf] > > leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. > event and venue to be confirmed > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS > Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > > > http://eucc.frisbee.cz > > TBC > Main Email: TBC > ____________________________________________________________ > > 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN > Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] > > 7th bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN > Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] > > leg 8 bdga tour 2001 > date and venue tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 > Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 9 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN > Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 10 > the last open event of this years tour > date tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > > All information is 'Without prejudice' and is the view of the individual and not necessarily the company. 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If you received this communication in error, please phone +44 20 7 667 8600 or email postmaster@roomuw.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 16:45:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CGVgl17816 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:31:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CGV5h17788 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:31:06 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1CGV2F06094 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:31:02 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.95] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000284813; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:35:25 +0000 Message-ID: <3A880FBC.B9AAAAEE@deepend.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:39:36 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" CC: BritDisc , BDGA Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder References: <200102121434.f1CEYnY07820@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Come on Paul, we've had stuff in this diary over the years from Golf to Gutz. I might not be thinking of making specific plans to play in the Masters Overall Championships in Somewheresville, but if it's in the diary and I happen to be *in* Somewheresville at that time I might go and see what's happening. This is the one place where folk can look and see what's happening in all disc related sports and maybe try something new. You like Ultimate, I like Ultimate. You don't like Golf, I do like Golf. I want to see all the stuff together. TDs can also help avoid clashing events. Bollcks to splitting in up. :) All the bes* Jes* ps You wouldn't be 'jealous' now of the way every Golf tourny this season in already scheduled?? :) "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" wrote: > When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? > > I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling > island hurricane. > > Coz Ultimate rules! > > Stig > > ---------- > From: British Ultimate Federation > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 > > BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ > ____________________________________________________________ > > 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. > 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds > sunday afternnon. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net > Home Phone: 01622871640 > Mobile: 07887628544 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG > Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] > > If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come > and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. > > Two halls > 12 teams... > 8 places available > > get on it > > Sam Rey > TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? > Main Email: samanir@breathe.com > Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com > Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 > Mobile: 07866 336643 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Lindsay Cuthbertson > 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , > Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk > Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 > Mobile: 07776 187819 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and time to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] > > To be confirmed closer to date > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: chughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING > Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] > > 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 > Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, > England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with > "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due > to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the > biggest and best ever. > > http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate > > Oisin Flanagan > 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , > Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com > Home Phone: 01 4971862 > Mobile: 086 312 3364 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY > Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to > 40mins > Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or > Campsite > Dinner available on Saturday night > Saturday night party > GREAT BEER > > http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm > > Glenn Nolf > Main Email: glenn@km.be > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN > Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] > > 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 > (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE > Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] > > 4th leg bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > 5th leg bdga tour 2001 > also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC > Location: london - [Disc Golf] > > leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. > event and venue to be confirmed > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS > Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > http://eucc.frisbee.cz > > TBC > Main Email: TBC > ____________________________________________________________ > > 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN > Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] > > 7th bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN > Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] > > leg 8 bdga tour 2001 > date and venue tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 > Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 9 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN > Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 10 > the last open event of this years tour > date tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:06:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CH41f00491 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:04:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CH3wh00477 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:03:58 GMT Received: from rw-gw-02.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CH3PY08854 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:03:40 GMT Received: by rw-gw-02.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:02:53 -0800 Message-ID: <45C4368325C2D411898E00062938B3E827F3CB@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: Britdisc Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:02:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The main question is, how easy/difficult would this be for the person who runs the diary/reminder. If it is too much effort to do this, then there's no point in trying to argue about whether to do it or not. I'd vote for splitting them up. I don't want to see golf stuff and I would imagine some golfers don't want to see Ultimate stuff. If there were two separate reminders, they could still both be posted to britdisc and people could choose which one(s) they want to read. The only negative (for the reader) is it is more difficult to see clashes between Golf and Ultimate. -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:22:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CHJJm05518 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:19:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHJFh05497 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:19:15 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHJFY12116 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:19:15 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:18:32 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1KYMK5DQ>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:17 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'jester@deepend.co.uk'" , "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" Cc: BritDisc , BDGA Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jes> ps You wouldn't be 'jealous' now of the way every Golf tourny this season in already scheduled?? :) Yes Chris Hughes Director of Competitions Man desperately trying to schedule everything -----Original Message----- From: JimJam [mailto:jamie@deepend.co.uk] Sent: 12 February 2001 16:40 To: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO) Cc: BritDisc; BDGA Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Come on Paul, we've had stuff in this diary over the years from Golf to Gutz. I might not be thinking of making specific plans to play in the Masters Overall Championships in Somewheresville, but if it's in the diary and I happen to be *in* Somewheresville at that time I might go and see what's happening. This is the one place where folk can look and see what's happening in all disc related sports and maybe try something new. You like Ultimate, I like Ultimate. You don't like Golf, I do like Golf. I want to see all the stuff together. TDs can also help avoid clashing events. Bollcks to splitting in up. :) All the bes* Jes* ps You wouldn't be 'jealous' now of the way every Golf tourny this season in already scheduled?? :) "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" wrote: > When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? > > I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling > island hurricane. > > Coz Ultimate rules! > > Stig > > ---------- > From: British Ultimate Federation > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 > > BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ > ____________________________________________________________ > > 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. > 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds > sunday afternnon. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net > Home Phone: 01622871640 > Mobile: 07887628544 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG > Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] > > If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come > and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. > > Two halls > 12 teams... > 8 places available > > get on it > > Sam Rey > TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? > Main Email: samanir@breathe.com > Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com > Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 > Mobile: 07866 336643 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Lindsay Cuthbertson > 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , > Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk > Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 > Mobile: 07776 187819 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and time to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] > > To be confirmed closer to date > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: chughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING > Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] > > 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 > Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, > England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with > "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due > to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the > biggest and best ever. > > http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate > > Oisin Flanagan > 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , > Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com > Home Phone: 01 4971862 > Mobile: 086 312 3364 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY > Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to > 40mins > Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or > Campsite > Dinner available on Saturday night > Saturday night party > GREAT BEER > > http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm > > Glenn Nolf > Main Email: glenn@km.be > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN > Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] > > 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 > (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE > Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] > > 4th leg bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > 5th leg bdga tour 2001 > also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC > Location: london - [Disc Golf] > > leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. > event and venue to be confirmed > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS > Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > http://eucc.frisbee.cz > > TBC > Main Email: TBC > ____________________________________________________________ > > 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN > Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] > > 7th bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN > Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] > > leg 8 bdga tour 2001 > date and venue tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 > Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 9 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN > Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 10 > the last open event of this years tour > date tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:22:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CHLti06420 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:21:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHLrh06403 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:21:53 GMT Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHLqY12692 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:21:52 GMT Message-Id: <200102121721.f1CHLqY12692@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: JimJam Cc: britdisc Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:17:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Other than to avoid clashes, what point is there of having golf and ultimate events on the same diary? How many people would suffer from clashing Golf and Ultimate events anyway? count on the fingers of one hand. If ultimate players are interested in Golf they can seek out the BDGA. Let the BDGA sort out their own diary. (i'm sure they have one . . . just dont bother us with it) Jes. cant believe you're happy with everyone knowing that you want to play more golf! Bollcks to golf Stig ---------- From: JimJam To: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO) Cc: BritDisc; BDGA Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Date: 12 February 2001 16:39 Come on Paul, we've had stuff in this diary over the years from Golf to Gutz. I might not be thinking of making specific plans to play in the Masters Overall Championships in Somewheresville, but if it's in the diary and I happen to be *in* Somewheresville at that time I might go and see what's happening. This is the one place where folk can look and see what's happening in all disc related sports and maybe try something new. You like Ultimate, I like Ultimate. You don't like Golf, I do like Golf. I want to see all the stuff together. TDs can also help avoid clashing events. Bollcks to splitting in up. :) All the bes* Jes* ps You wouldn't be 'jealous' now of the way every Golf tourny this season in already scheduled?? :) "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" wrote: > When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? > > I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling > island hurricane. > > Coz Ultimate rules! > > Stig > > ---------- > From: British Ultimate Federation > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 > > BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ > ____________________________________________________________ > > 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. > 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds > sunday afternnon. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net > Home Phone: 01622871640 > Mobile: 07887628544 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG > Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] > > If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come > and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. > > Two halls > 12 teams... > 8 places available > > get on it > > Sam Rey > TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? > Main Email: samanir@breathe.com > Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com > Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 > Mobile: 07866 336643 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Lindsay Cuthbertson > 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , > Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk > Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 > Mobile: 07776 187819 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > Specific venues and time to be confirmed > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS > Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] > > To be confirmed closer to date > > Chris Hughes > Main Email: chughes@talk21.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING > Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] > > 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 > Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, > England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with > "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due > to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the > biggest and best ever. > > http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate > > Oisin Flanagan > 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , > Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com > Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com > Home Phone: 01 4971862 > Mobile: 086 312 3364 > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY > Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to > 40mins > Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or > Campsite > Dinner available on Saturday night > Saturday night party > GREAT BEER > > http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm > > Glenn Nolf > Main Email: glenn@km.be > ____________________________________________________________ > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN > Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] > > 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 > (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE > Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] > > 4th leg bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > 5th leg bdga tour 2001 > also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC > Location: london - [Disc Golf] > > leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. > event and venue to be confirmed > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS > Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > http://eucc.frisbee.cz > > TBC > Main Email: TBC > ____________________________________________________________ > > 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN > Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] > > 7th bdga tour 2001 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN > Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] > > leg 8 bdga tour 2001 > date and venue tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 > Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 9 > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ > > 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN > Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] > > bdga tour 2001 leg 10 > the last open event of this years tour > date tbc > > andy lucey > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:34:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CHWqv09165 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:32:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHWoh09154 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:32:50 GMT Received: from aluminium.rcp.co.uk (backbone-station2.rcp.co.uk [194.154.18.66]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHWdF15195 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:32:44 GMT Received: from [194.154.28.161] by aluminium.rcp.co.uk (NTMail 5.06.0016/NT1534.00.51ac46a4) with ESMTP id ctdkcaaa for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:32:46 +0000 Received: by arsenic.rcp.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1TA8CK7F>; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:28:00 -0000 Message-ID: <217F6DFA440ED111ACDA00A0C906B0060297DB94@arsenic.rcp.co.uk> From: Andy Cotgreave To: britdisc Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:27:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hmm, paul, you must be a young, student player, who doesn't live near anyone who plays golf. and probably doesn't have a strong enough arm to throw a gold disk properly. you're also boring, and surely you're getting too overexcited about a trivial little matter. Birthday Boy, Chevron Action Flash. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO) [mailto:punwin@grantham.ac.uk] Sent: 12 February 2001 17:17 To: JimJam Cc: britdisc Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Other than to avoid clashes, what point is there of having golf and ultimate events on the same diary? How many people would suffer from clashing Golf and Ultimate events anyway? count on the fingers of one hand. If ultimate players are interested in Golf they can seek out the BDGA. Let the BDGA sort out their own diary. (i'm sure they have one . . . just dont bother us with it) Jes. cant believe you're happy with everyone knowing that you want to play more golf! Bollcks to golf Stig From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:40:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CHdPR10777 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:39:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHdNh10758 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:39:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f49.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.49]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHdMY15522 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:39:22 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:39:04 -0800 Received: from 152.163.205.39 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:39:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.205.39] From: "Kilkenny Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Kilkenny Tournament 2001 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:39:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Feb 2001 17:39:04.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[B16EF0A0:01C0951A] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk
The Jazzman and Jazz Jr. proudly present:
 
The Kilkenny Ultimate Tournament 2001.
 
June 16th and 17th 2001 sees Ultimate descend for the first time on the sleepy Irish town of Kilkenny. Set in the leafy green surrounds of Kilkenny College, the tournament promises a weekend of quality ultimate in the home of Kilkenny Beer (brewery tours can be arranged and written into the game schedule if necessary). Booze, lunacy and ultimate guaranteed or your money back!
 
Reasons to come to Kilkenny:
 
Tournament entry fee is the low low price of IRL£35 per team (approx £28 stg.) which can be paid on the Saturday. This is to help offset any travelling costs you may have.
 
These travelling costs can be minimised by booking in advance from airlines such as Ryanair (at www.ryanair.com) who fly to Dublin from Stanstead, Gatwick, Prestwick, Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol and Bournemouth. The easiest way to get to Kilkenny from Dublin is by train or coach with many regular daily services.
You can also catch ferries from Fishguard, Holyhead and Liverpool.
Coach companies offer direct coaches to Dublin from most major UK cities.
 
The strength of the British pound at the moment means that you can now come to Ireland and buy more that ever before with your English (or Scottish) tenner. This is your chance to use your wealth to Lord it up over the Irish like your ancestors one did. Surely an opportunity not to be missed!
 
This is a prime opportunity to play some overseas ultimate without having to learn Flemish or Czech, as most of us Irish can speak something that at least approximates towards English.
 
Sort out that weekend off now and stock up on Alka-Seltzer.
 
More info to follow via tournament website. Details from britdisc soon.
 
In the meantime contact Jazz at either
 
 
 
 

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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:43:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CHgiY11692 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:42:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHghh11682 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:42:43 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1CHgaF16435 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:42:37 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.95] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000285423; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:47:00 +0000 Message-ID: <3A882083.4294BD6A@deepend.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:51:22 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" CC: britdisc Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" wrote: > Jes. cant believe you're happy with everyone knowing that you want to play > more golf! 6th in the UK Nationals, 22nd on the Eurotour, BDGA Most Improved Player last season, and proud of it! I still love Ultimate! Can't a man have two mistresses??? Bes* Jes* ps - Check out my new book: 'How Disc Golf helped me reach tranquil inner spiritual harmony and throw ****ing big hucks in Ultimate' From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 17:46:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CHjH812422 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:45:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHjGh12416 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:45:16 GMT Received: from rw-gw-02.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CHjBF16710 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:45:15 GMT Received: by rw-gw-02.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:44:37 -0800 Message-ID: <45C4368325C2D411898E00062938B3E827F3CC@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:43:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Stig, young!! Wasn't he on last years masters team? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 19:09:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CJ6Bj02863 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:06:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CJ69h02855 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:06:09 GMT Received: from pop2.spray.se ([212.78.193.181]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CJ5sF25193 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:05:59 GMT Received: from spraymail.spray.se (sonen [212.78.193.147]) by pop2.spray.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049CEDB3F0 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:00:26 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <84739295@spray.se> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Johansson?= Subject: DIVE HARD - the Fifth Edition To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:02:11 Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn_Johansson?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello, britdisc members! Carnegie USC wants to invite you to "DIVE HARD - the fifth edition", June 2-3 in Göteborg, Sweden. DIVE HARD V is an Ultimate Frisbee tournament with very skillfull teams participating. Last year The best Finnish and Danish teams joined the list of teams. DIVE HARD V is also the first qualification tournament of two to the Swedish Nationals, which means the best teams in Sweden will participate. This year we will make an even bigger effort to attract international teams to DIVE HARD V. More information can be found on our homepage at: http://welcome.to/carnegie Questions? carnegie@welcome.to Thank you for your time and welcome to Göteborg this summer! Best Regards, Björn Johansson, PR-DH V, CUSC _________________________________________s_p_r_a_y_ Här börjar Internet! Skaffa gratis e-mail och gratis Internet på http://www.spray.se From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 20:06:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CK3qw13664 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:03:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CK3oh13654 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:03:50 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CK3nY04702 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:03:49 GMT Received: from modem-19.colorado.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.57.19] helo=ben) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14SPCM-000229-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:03:47 +0000 Message-ID: <017901c0952f$e878b440$1339893e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:35:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Re Disc Golf on BUF Diary: I can turn off their pacemakers all too easily if there is enough of a majority in favour of doing this! As a reneral rule it is better to have multiple optional Internet services rather than lumping things together. Remember Britdisc slitting off from Eurodisc, Student-Ultimate egroup splitting from Britdisc, etc? Provided people have the option to have both (which they would even if two entirely separate diary systems existed) then there shouldn't be a problem. This somewhat revives a long-running debate about whether disc sports should be run separately or bundled into a bigger 'product'. I notice that as ultimate players have become more serious about what they do the general opinion seems to have drifted towards separation. I think the same is generally true of disc golf players. You might find there are just as many ultimate players who would be interested in football results but that doesn't mean they have to be on the same diary. I think it was Toby Green who first argued against 'disc sports' as an entity on the basis that it presented a confusing image to newcomers. FWIW, I am generally of this opinion myself though there are certain places where we can benefit from working together (putting 'disc sports' leaflets in discs sold in shops was always a good idea and maybe some day soon we'll have the manpower to actually make it happen). Try convincing WFDF that dealing with the sports separately is a good idea and you will see just how backwards we really are. Many foreign 'flying disc associations' do nothing other than ultimate which surely damages the other disc sports more than anything else. It seems Britain and Switzerland are alone in Europe as countries who have totally independent (and flourishing?) organisations for each sport. I have been arguing that this is in fact healthy but there hasn't been a change in personnel at WFDF in about ten years as far as I can see so we're still running on some very old ideas. Convince me that the prospect of more golf events in the diary is abhorent to the majority of players and maybe we'll do something about it. Come to think of it, 'Britdisc' is bit old hat.... Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nolan" To: "Britdisc" Sent: 12 February 2001 15:51 Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder > At last someone has said what I've been thinking for about three years. I > really can't be bothered reading the events reminder anymore, as I have to > wade through detritus to get to any real sport. Let's do it. I'm sure the > golfers can manage setting up their own mailout. > > BUF does stand for British ULTIMATE Federation, or did I miss something? > > Nolan > > > From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" > > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:31:00 -0000 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: RE: BUF Events Reminder > > > > When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? > > > > I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling > > island hurricane. > > > > Coz Ultimate rules! > > > > Stig > > > > ---------- > > From: British Ultimate Federation > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: BUF Events Reminder > > Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 > > > > BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY > > > > See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. > > Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk > > Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER > > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > > > first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. > > 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds > > sunday afternnon. > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net > > Home Phone: 01622871640 > > Mobile: 07887628544 > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG > > Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come > > and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. > > > > Two halls > > 12 teams... > > 8 places available > > > > get on it > > > > Sam Rey > > TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? > > Main Email: samanir@breathe.com > > Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com > > Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 > > Mobile: 07866 336643 > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS > > Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > > > > > Lindsay Cuthbertson > > 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , > > Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk > > Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 > > Mobile: 07776 187819 > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > > Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > > > > > > > Chris Hughes > > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > Specific venues and times to be confirmed > > > > Chris Hughes > > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS > > Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > Specific venues and time to be confirmed > > > > > > Chris Hughes > > Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS > > Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] > > > > To be confirmed closer to date > > > > > > Chris Hughes > > Main Email: chughes@talk21.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING > > Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] > > > > 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 > > Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > > > This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, > > England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with > > "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due > > to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the > > biggest and best ever. > > > > http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate > > > > Oisin Flanagan > > 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , > > Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com > > Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com > > Home Phone: 01 4971862 > > Mobile: 086 312 3364 > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY > > Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > > > Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to > > 40mins > > Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or > > Campsite > > Dinner available on Saturday night > > Saturday night party > > GREAT BEER > > > > http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm > > > > Glenn Nolf > > Main Email: glenn@km.be > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN > > Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] > > > > 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 > > (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE > > Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] > > > > 4th leg bdga tour 2001 > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN > > Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] > > > > 5th leg bdga tour 2001 > > also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC > > Location: london - [Disc Golf] > > > > leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. > > event and venue to be confirmed > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS > > Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] > > > > > > > > http://eucc.frisbee.cz > > > > TBC > > Main Email: TBC > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN > > Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] > > > > 7th bdga tour 2001 > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN > > Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] > > > > leg 8 bdga tour 2001 > > date and venue tbc > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 > > Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] > > > > bdga tour 2001 leg 9 > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN > > Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] > > > > bdga tour 2001 leg 10 > > the last open event of this years tour > > date tbc > > > > andy lucey > > Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 12 23:02:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1CMxbl17053 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:59:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CMxYh17047 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:59:34 GMT Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (mail3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.19]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1CMxSY18613 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:59:28 GMT Received: from modem-30.blue-head-tilefish.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.235.30] helo=home-pc) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14SRwG-00056T-00; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:59:20 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01c09546$a035bea0$1eeb883e@home-pc> From: "william ault" To: , "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" Cc: "BritDisc" , "BDGA" Subject: Re: [bdga] Re: BUF Events Reminder Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:53:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I should just point out it is the "Hayling Hurricane" (note capital letters.) Which happens to be held on Hayling Island. Obviously there was more than a quick glance at the diary. I think we should start a new "OUTING" campaign. Come on you closet golfers, put on your wacky trousers and throw plastic at targets that don't run around all the time! What is this "Ultlimutt" thing anyway! Sounds just a bit too silly! Slim Billy -----Original Message----- From: JimJam To: Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO) Cc: BritDisc ; BDGA Date: 12 February 2001 16:31 Subject: [bdga] Re: BUF Events Reminder >Come on Paul, we've had stuff in this diary over the years from Golf to Gutz. > >I might not be thinking of making specific plans to play in the Masters Overall >Championships in Somewheresville, but if it's in the diary and I happen to be >*in* Somewheresville at that time I might go and see what's happening. > >This is the one place where folk can look and see what's happening in all disc >related sports and maybe try something new. You like Ultimate, I like Ultimate. >You don't like Golf, I do like Golf. I want to see all the stuff together. TDs >can also help avoid clashing events. > >Bollcks to splitting in up. :) > >All the bes* >Jes* > >ps You wouldn't be 'jealous' now of the way every Golf tourny this season in >already scheduled?? :) > > > >"Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" wrote: > >> When are we going to have a separate diary for golf? >> >> I dont want to know about the Frost breaker, spring fling or the hayling >> island hurricane. >> >> Coz Ultimate rules! >> >> Stig >> >> ---------- >> From: British Ultimate Federation >> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >> Subject: BUF Events Reminder >> Date: 12 February 2001 13:31 >> >> BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY >> >> See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. >> Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk >> Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 17 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - FROSTBREAKER >> Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] >> >> first leg of the 2001 bdga tour. >> 54 holes of golf over sat and sunday for all players, plus final rounds >> sunday afternnon. >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> Alternative Email: tobygreen@attglobal.net >> Home Phone: 01622871640 >> Mobile: 07887628544 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG >> Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] >> >> If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come >> and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. >> >> Two halls >> 12 teams... >> 8 places available >> >> get on it >> >> Sam Rey >> TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? >> Main Email: samanir@breathe.com >> Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com >> Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 >> Mobile: 07866 336643 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS >> Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] >> >> Lindsay Cuthbertson >> 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , >> Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk >> Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 >> Mobile: 07776 187819 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS >> Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] >> >> Specific venues and times to be confirmed >> >> Chris Hughes >> Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS >> Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] >> >> Specific venues and times to be confirmed >> >> Chris Hughes >> Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS >> Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] >> >> Specific venues and time to be confirmed >> >> Chris Hughes >> Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS >> Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] >> >> To be confirmed closer to date >> >> Chris Hughes >> Main Email: chughes@talk21.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING >> Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] >> >> 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2000 >> Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] >> >> This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, >> England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with >> "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due >> to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the >> biggest and best ever. >> >> http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate >> >> Oisin Flanagan >> 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , >> Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com >> Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com >> Home Phone: 01 4971862 >> Mobile: 086 312 3364 >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY >> Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] >> >> Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to >> 40mins >> Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or >> Campsite >> Dinner available on Saturday night >> Saturday night party >> GREAT BEER >> >> http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm >> >> Glenn Nolf >> Main Email: glenn@km.be >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN >> Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] >> >> 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 >> (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE >> Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] >> >> 4th leg bdga tour 2001 >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN >> Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] >> >> 5th leg bdga tour 2001 >> also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC >> Location: london - [Disc Golf] >> >> leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. >> event and venue to be confirmed >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS >> Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] >> >> http://eucc.frisbee.cz >> >> TBC >> Main Email: TBC >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN >> Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] >> >> 7th bdga tour 2001 >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN >> Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] >> >> leg 8 bdga tour 2001 >> date and venue tbc >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 >> Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] >> >> bdga tour 2001 leg 9 >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ >> >> 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN >> Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] >> >> bdga tour 2001 leg 10 >> the last open event of this years tour >> date tbc >> >> andy lucey >> Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com >> ____________________________________________________________ > > >------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups >Click here for more details >http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/1/_/14925/_/981995461/ >---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 10:10:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1DA67920081 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:06:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DA64h20064 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:06:05 GMT Received: from web3704.mail.yahoo.com (web3704.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.133]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1DA63F22070 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:06:03 GMT Message-ID: <20010213100601.28277.qmail@web3704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.83.240.34] by web3704.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:06:01 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:06:01 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder-A solution? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: bdga@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <002f01c09546$a035bea0$1eeb883e@home-pc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Okay, I have never played disc-golf in my life, and certainly don't have the time to go to any tournaments in between the heavy schedule for the Tour and other summer Ultimate events. But that is not to say that others wouldn't, or indeed I wouldn't perhaps think about going to see an event. I understand what Stig is saying and to some extent I agree, but it would be a shame to lose any link with the BDGA. My proposal is that the BDGA set up their own e-mailing system, and either: a) Cc: the events list to Britdisc. or b) Create an embedded link, or an attachment, within the text of the existing BUF events list we receive. With both of these options we, as the souly Ultimate playing fraternity, have the ability to screen anything we do not wish to read. If option (a) is preferred then we can simply not open that letter, or with (b) we just don't click on that link, or open the attachment. Just some thoughts, and perhaps a way of avoiding further squabbling. But I leave it in the hands of Ben (who I think is in charge of that stuff). In the spirit of Peace Joe AKA Sox/Zésinho @ Northern Lights, Durham ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 13:26:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1DDJfR23994 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:19:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DDJch23969 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:19:38 GMT Received: from web5407.mail.yahoo.com (web5407.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.199]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1DDJXY15746 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:19:37 GMT Message-ID: <20010213131923.94782.qmail@web5407.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.205.83.242] by web5407.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:19:23 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:19:23 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Melanie=20Barlow?= Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder-A solution? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20010213100601.28277.qmail@web3704.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk b) sounds like a good compromise.. That's what categorising is good for.. .. a central place for disc things (so that people just need to know one web address/e-group to start with), and then sub-categories for particular interests/non-interests. surfing v's body-boarding snow skiing v's snow-boarding wing chun v's tai chi (seems this situation has been faced before) "ebony... ivory.. living in perfect harmony" (to quote from the 80s) There are a few solutions.. the right one being the one that suits the majority. How does Britdisc apply democracy? Casual or formal methods? Melanie --- Joe Graves wrote: > Okay, I have never played disc-golf in my life, and > certainly don't have the time to go to any > tournaments > in between the heavy schedule for the Tour and other > summer Ultimate events. But that is not to say that > others wouldn't, or indeed I wouldn't perhaps think > about going to see an event. I understand what Stig > is saying and to some extent I agree, but it would > be > a shame to lose any link with the BDGA. > > My proposal is that the BDGA set up their own > e-mailing system, and either: > a) Cc: the events list to Britdisc. > or > b) Create an embedded link, or an attachment, within > the text of the existing BUF events list we receive. > > With both of these options we, as the souly Ultimate > playing fraternity, have the ability to screen > anything we do not wish to read. If option (a) is > preferred then we can simply not open that letter, > or > with (b) we just don't click on that link, or open > the > attachment. > > Just some thoughts, and perhaps a way of avoiding > further squabbling. But I leave it in the hands of > Ben (who I think is in charge of that stuff). > > In the spirit of Peace > > Joe > AKA Sox/Zésinho @ Northern Lights, Durham > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 16:54:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1DGnxh09192 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:49:59 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DGnuh09170 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:49:56 GMT Received: from admin.warwick.ac.uk (sigma [137.205.249.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DGntY03641 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:49:55 GMT Received: from SIGMA/SpoolDir by admin.warwick.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 13 Feb 101 16:49:55 GMT+0001 Received: from SpoolDir by SIGMA (Mercury 1.43); 13 Feb 101 16:49:50 GMT+0001 From: "Derek Robins" Organization: University of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:49:46 +0000 (GMT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder-A solution? In-reply-to: <20010213131923.94782.qmail@web5407.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010213100601.28277.qmail@web3704.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.01d) Message-ID: <1E1F977F9D@admin.warwick.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1DGnuh09174 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, I am primarily a disc golfer now, though Ultimate was my main activity for many years. The inclusion of non-ultimate events in the listing may appear a little odd now, but the listing used to be maintained at Warwick and was a service provided for all disc sports. It has since been taken over by BUF and hosted on ultimateweb, minus the facility to screen for ultimate/golf/other only. At the time BUF (Ben R) was happy to continue to cover all disc sports. I am not going to get worked up about inclusion or exclusion of disc golf on that particular mailing/database, but all events do belong on britdisc. I welcome the positive comments of Melanie and Joe, they display open minds, respect and cooperation. That is what spirit is about. Del Date sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:19:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Melanie Barlow Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder-A solution? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > b) sounds like a good compromise.. > > That's what categorising is good for.. > .. a central place for disc things (so that people > just need to know one web address/e-group to start > with), and then sub-categories for particular > interests/non-interests. > > surfing v's body-boarding > snow skiing v's snow-boarding > wing chun v's tai chi > > (seems this situation has been faced before) > > "ebony... ivory.. living in perfect harmony" > > (to quote from the 80s) > > There are a few solutions.. the right one being the > one that suits the majority. How does Britdisc apply > democracy? Casual or formal methods? > > Melanie > > --- Joe Graves wrote: > > Okay, I have never played disc-golf in my life, and > > certainly don't have the time to go to any > > tournaments > > in between the heavy schedule for the Tour and other > > summer Ultimate events. But that is not to say that > > others wouldn't, or indeed I wouldn't perhaps think > > about going to see an event. I understand what Stig > > is saying and to some extent I agree, but it would > > be > > a shame to lose any link with the BDGA. > > > > My proposal is that the BDGA set up their own > > e-mailing system, and either: > > a) Cc: the events list to Britdisc. > > or > > b) Create an embedded link, or an attachment, within > > the text of the existing BUF events list we receive. > > > > With both of these options we, as the souly Ultimate > > playing fraternity, have the ability to screen > > anything we do not wish to read. If option (a) is > > preferred then we can simply not open that letter, > > or > > with (b) we just don't click on that link, or open > > the > > attachment. > > > > Just some thoughts, and perhaps a way of avoiding > > further squabbling. But I leave it in the hands of > > Ben (who I think is in charge of that stuff). > > > > In the spirit of Peace > > > > Joe > > AKA Sox/Zésinho @ Northern Lights, Durham > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > > or your free @yahoo.ie address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Derek Robins D.J.Robins@admin.warwick.ac.uk Finance Office, 304b Senate House, Warwick University, Coventry CV4 7AL Tel Work 02476 522710 Fax 02476 524573 Home 01926 864136 *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 16:54:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1DGq4810054 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:52:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DGq1h10028 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:52:02 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DGplF26471 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:52:01 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Sig6-0008Xz-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:51:46 +0000 Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder-A solution? Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:52:01 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >b) sounds like a good compromise.. Personally, I'd support the idea of splitting the golf and ultimate diaries. Saves wading thru events that don't interest you (and sometimes it takes a moment to figure out which sport a diary entry is for). But: Attachments? Personally, I almost never look at them. Too much hassle (no doubt some bright spark will recommend sending it as a Word or Excel file - aaarrgh!) A web link? I like being able to check the diary without having to log on, then wait for some potentially slow web server to get its act together. (Isn't the BUF diary on the web anyway? How many people actually bother to look at the web version though?) Why not just send two mails - one golf, one ultimate. Then just delete the one you're not interested in. I'm sure those (few) of us who are concerned about clashes can easily do the cross-referencing. Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 17:25:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1DHOCq19571 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:24:12 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DHOAh19564 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:24:10 GMT Received: from web5408.mail.yahoo.com (web5408.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1DHO4Y11939 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:24:04 GMT Message-ID: <20010213172401.91206.qmail@web5408.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.205.83.242] by web5408.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:24:01 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:24:01 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Melanie=20Barlow?= Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder-A solution? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Attachments? Personally, I almost never look at > them. Too much hassle (no > doubt some bright spark will recommend sending it as > a Word or Excel file > - aaarrgh!) yeah.. okay.. just discussing the high-level concept at the mo.. (Britdisc as forum for both golf and Ultimate).. haven't performed a feasibility study on the proposed/possible solutions to date. > Why not just send two mails - one golf, one > ultimate. Then just delete > the one you're not interested in. Yeah.. that would be inkeeping with the goal of keeping the central disc-sport thing going. Melanie --- Paul Hurt wrote: > >b) sounds like a good compromise.. > > Personally, I'd support the idea of splitting the > golf and ultimate > diaries. Saves wading thru events that don't > interest you (and sometimes > it takes a moment to figure out which sport a diary > entry is for). > > But: > > Attachments? Personally, I almost never look at > them. Too much hassle (no > doubt some bright spark will recommend sending it as > a Word or Excel file > - aaarrgh!) > > A web link? I like being able to check the diary > without having to log > on, then wait for some potentially slow web server > to get its act > together. (Isn't the BUF diary on the web anyway? > How many people > actually bother to look at the web version though?) > > Why not just send two mails - one golf, one > ultimate. Then just delete > the one you're not interested in. > > I'm sure those (few) of us who are concerned about > clashes can easily do > the cross-referencing. > > Paul ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 13 18:19:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1DIGN802724 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:16:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1DIGLh02716 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:16:21 GMT Received: from web4303.mail.yahoo.com (web4303.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.195]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1DIFnF07503 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:16:03 GMT Message-ID: <20010213181544.26434.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.72.70.194] by web4303.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:15:44 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:15:44 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?One=20of=20The=20Lurkers?= Subject: Re: BUF Events Reminder To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20010213172401.91206.qmail@web5408.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just for the record - we're quite happy with the events reminder as it is.... Cheers Ed - Lurkers ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 16:03:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1EFvcZ07888 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:57:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1EFvbh07879 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:57:37 GMT Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1EFvaF03716 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:57:36 GMT Received: from york.ac.uk (cst406.york.ac.uk [144.32.8.214]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1EFvUY25735 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:57:30 GMT Message-ID: <3A8AAAE9.B79A0F06@york.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:57:29 +0000 From: Jaimie Cross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: BUF Reminder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk It's BritDisc, not BritUltimate. There's no such thing as democracy on Britdisc, that's why its so good!! Jaimie Leeds (we still haven't got a name!!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 14 20:54:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1EKoCf05096 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:50:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1EKoBh05087 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:50:11 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.57]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1EKoAF12747 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:50:10 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:50:02 -0800 Received: from 138.40.1.12 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:50:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [138.40.1.12] From: "Simon Barry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: London Regionals Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:50:02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2001 20:50:02.0841 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3F80C90:01C096C7] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The info on the London Tourny on the invites that went out is a little unrepresentative of our humble hometown venue. I realise it is rather late now, but here is what it should have said in case anyone is still wondering what to do: Big hall in Rec centre with banked seating at side. Will do 1 big/2 smaller pitches on Sat depending on numbers. 2 Swim Pools, Sauna, Kindergarten/Creche and all other usual Rec Centre facilities on site. Large Food/Drink/Chill area for our exclusive use. Brixton BR 45 secs walk; Brixton Tube 2 mins walk; Multi-Story car park adjacent to Rec Centre; London City Airport 35 mins by car (come on Sneeekys, we'll come and pick you up :-) Within 400 yd radius of Rec Centre there are 2 supermarkets, 2 sports shops, 60+ restaurants, take-aways and food shops doing every kind of food you can imagine, a market, 20+ pubs, 10+ late night bars and several night clubs inc The Fridge, Mass, Bug Bar. Can accommodate Fri and Sat. Love to see ya Si B/Angels 020 7733 8155 (H) sibarry@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 15 13:01:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1FCsiK27218 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:54:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1FCseh27195 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:54:40 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1FCsdF03534 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:54:39 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:53:46 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1KYML3Y1>; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:52:32 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Simon Barry'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: London Regionals Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:52:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My Apologies to Si and all the Angels working hard to make sure this happens. I wasn't trying to suggest that London event wouldn't be up to standard - instead I didn't want to say much because in the short period of time between Si giving me the nod, and me getting the info out I didn't have time for much fluffiness. I am assured that the venue and event will be of a similar standard to the rest of the regional events - the Angels consistent host good tournaments and this should be no different. If you are a southern team and want to play at regionals go (If your a Londoner you can get there on your tube pass) to London. Enjoy. Get into Nationals. The Angels can put you up, and provide a good event. Chris DoC -----Original Message----- From: Simon Barry [mailto:sibarry@hotmail.com] Sent: 14 February 2001 20:50 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: London Regionals The info on the London Tourny on the invites that went out is a little unrepresentative of our humble hometown venue. I realise it is rather late now, but here is what it should have said in case anyone is still wondering what to do: Big hall in Rec centre with banked seating at side. Will do 1 big/2 smaller pitches on Sat depending on numbers. 2 Swim Pools, Sauna, Kindergarten/Creche and all other usual Rec Centre facilities on site. Large Food/Drink/Chill area for our exclusive use. Brixton BR 45 secs walk; Brixton Tube 2 mins walk; Multi-Story car park adjacent to Rec Centre; London City Airport 35 mins by car (come on Sneeekys, we'll come and pick you up :-) Within 400 yd radius of Rec Centre there are 2 supermarkets, 2 sports shops, 60+ restaurants, take-aways and food shops doing every kind of food you can imagine, a market, 20+ pubs, 10+ late night bars and several night clubs inc The Fridge, Mass, Bug Bar. Can accommodate Fri and Sat. Love to see ya Si B/Angels 020 7733 8155 (H) sibarry@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 16 12:20:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1GBvVu18841 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:57:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1GBvRh18817 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:57:27 GMT Received: from c000.lhr.cp.net (c000-h013.c000.lhr.cp.net [209.228.22.113]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1GBvMF17129 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:57:22 GMT Received: (cpmta 9842 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2001 11:57:15 +0000 Date: 16 Feb 2001 11:57:15 +0000 Message-ID: <20010216115715.9841.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> X-Sent: 16 Feb 2001 11:57:15 GMT Received: from [57.67.16.50] by mail.breathe.com with HTTP; 16 Feb 2001 11:57:15 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "M Allen." X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.0.16 X-Sent-From: mta99@breathe.com Subject: Ankle supports Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, can anyone help me with a contact for buying an ankle support? I am looking for one of the type which laces up and has lateral supports. An email or web address would be useful. Ploddy, you had some when you knackered your ankle didn't you? Cheers. Mal. Slip....kno....Disc MBM \\!// mta99@bigfoot.com [o o] 07740 194 504 \-/ 0121 472 3694 ___________________________________________ It's amazing what happens when you breathe. www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 16 14:48:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1GEQ7504002 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:26:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1GEQ2h03983 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:26:02 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1GEPuF06458 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:26:01 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.82] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000307290 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:30:29 +0000 Message-ID: <3A8D386B.7A6D194B@deepend.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:29:13 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Ankle supports References: <20010216115715.9841.cpmta@c000.lhr.cp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk While we're at it, where are they selling knee pads these days? (for a pal playing volleyball) Jes* "M Allen." wrote: > Britdisc, > can anyone help me with a contact for buying an ankle support? I am looking for one of the type which laces up and has lateral supports. An email or web address would be useful. > Ploddy, you had some when you knackered your ankle didn't you? > > Cheers. > > Mal. > Slip....kno....Disc MBM > > \\!// mta99@bigfoot.com > [o o] 07740 194 504 > \-/ 0121 472 3694 > > ___________________________________________ > It's amazing what happens when you breathe. > www.breathe.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 16 17:19:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1GHE9Z06160 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:14:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1GHDxh06091 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:14:00 GMT Received: from web4303.mail.yahoo.com (web4303.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.195]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1GHDwY26532 for ; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:13:58 GMT Message-ID: <20010216171357.11086.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.189.144.81] by web4303.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:13:57 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:13:57 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=20J?= Subject: looking for Mango To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk You out there? I've lost your contact details... tia, MJ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 18 03:51:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1I3mN027280 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:48:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1I3mLh27268 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:48:21 GMT Received: from cefni.aber.ac.uk (cefni.aber.ac.uk [144.124.16.40]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1I3mLY24849 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:48:21 GMT Received: from pcdddi.pjmv.stunet.aber.ac.uk ([10.2.0.56] helo=perkin) by cefni.aber.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14UKpI-0003yn-00; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:47:56 +0000 Message-ID: <040c01c0995d$fb15ebe0$3800020a@perkin> From: "Tim Blair" To: "Student Ultimate" , "BritDisc" Cc: "Mwnci See" , "Sarah Kirwan" , "Sally Pennington" Subject: Women's Student Indoors Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 03:50:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Announcing the first WOMEN'S Student Indoors!!! To be held in Aberystwyth on 10th-11th MARCH (yes, I know it's short notice...) All accomodation will be with Mwnci See players for Friday to Sunday, or Monday if you're desperate ;o) Due to problems with the hall (the Aber AU is cr*p), we've only got room for 12 teams, so GET YOUR ENTRY IN QUICKLY!!! Entrance fee is £60 per team, party tickets will be £2.50 each (possibly £3) and can be bought during play on Saturday. Send entrance fee (and an indication of how many player's you'll be bringing) to Tim Blair at: 69 Pentre Jane Morgan, Penglais, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion. SY23 3TE. Tel: 01970 615077 Cheques are payable to ABER GUILD OF STUDENTS. Again, sorry about the delay (blame the AU). See everyone in three weeks! Tim. -- Tim Blair National Student Co-ordinator 2000-01 Captain - Mwnci See http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/ tim@mwncisee.co.uk . From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 19 14:27:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1JEJ4T15741 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:19:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1JEJ0h15722 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:19:00 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1JEIjY15138 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:18:45 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id OAA00404 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:18:37 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:18:37 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:18:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: britdisc Subject: Online britdisc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, As the buf page is down can someone please mail me the www address for the Britdisc repository. Thanks, Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 19 15:32:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1JFOEo09587 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:24:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1JFNsh09503 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:23:55 GMT Received: from chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (th-gt145-076.pool.dircon.co.uk [195.157.32.76]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1JFNmF19128 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:23:48 GMT Received: from ralf ([10.226.114.163]) by chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1JFGGv23529; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:16:16 GMT From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: "Paul Eastman" Cc: Subject: RE: Online britdisc Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:19:02 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > As the buf page is down can someone please mail me the www address for the > Britdisc repository. http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suaaz/BritDisc/ I never did get round to sorting it out nicely. Ralf. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 19 23:49:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1JNkDf03630 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:46:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1JNkCh03624 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:46:12 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1JNkBY10629 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:46:11 GMT Received: from ultimateweb ([195.146.169.203]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA67964 for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:47:19 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200102192347.XAA67964@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:50:37 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1JNkCh03625 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: tba - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - STUDENT INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Meadowbank Sports Centre, Edinburgh - [Indoor Ultimate] Lindsay Cuthbertson 16 Mayfield Road (Top Flat), Edinburgh, EH9 2NJ, , Main Email: L.F.Cuthbertson@sms.ed.ac.uk Home Phone: 0131 667 0154 Mobile: 07776 187819 ____________________________________________________________ 24 FEBRUARY 2001 (2 DAYS) - PROSPECTIVE PRE REGIONAL INDOOR OPEN THANG Location: Clifton, NOTTINGHAM - [Indoor Ultimate] If it doesn't Clash with the more important tournaments of this period, come and tone up your play with 11 other teams at Nottinghams Brand new venue. Two halls 12 teams... 8 places available get on it Sam Rey TNTUUS, Byron House, Shakespeare Street, Nottingham, NG? Main Email: samanir@breathe.com Alternative Email: fly2k@egroups.com Work Phone: 0115 988 1029 Mobile: 07866 336643 ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMEN'S STUDENT INDOORS Location: Aberystwyth - [Indoor Ultimate] The first women's student indoors, and hopefully not the last! 12 slots available, let's fill them up and enjoy it! http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/womens2001/ Tim Blair 69 Pentre Jane Morgan, Penglais, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, SY23 3TE Main Email: tim@mwncisee.co.uk Home Phone: 01970 615077 ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2001 Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate] Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details Ian Cuddihy 1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com Home Phone: +3535652871 Mobile: +447957667837 ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 20 09:52:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1K9nDH16353 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:49:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1K9nCh16346 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:49:12 GMT Received: from chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (th-gt144-169.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.59.169]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1K9nBY19782 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:49:11 GMT Received: from ralf ([10.226.114.163]) by chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1K9esv25391 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:40:54 GMT From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: Subject: RE: Online britdisc Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:43:48 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <003101c09aa2$182aa000$f23b893e@ben> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As some of you probably remember, I never formally announced the BritDisc archive, partially because it's pretty crap! Basically, I've kept a personal archive of all britdisc mail since about the fifth mail ever, and when somebody wanted to retrieve an old e-mail, I just hacked together a simple script to turn the whole lot (a 15mb mail spool) into seperate HTML files and create an index. Back then, there was well under a thousand e-mails in the mailbox. Now, there's close to 6000. I'd always intended this to be upgraded, but as nobody ever actually really seemed to use it, it sunk to the bottom of my list of priorities. > Sooner or later we'll probably move to using a paid-for egroup service or > something similar so that we can have multiple groups. If you > like, we could > upload the whole archive (once Britdisc is dead) to the new > www.ukultimate.com website. Any idea how much webspace it'll need? It's about 15mb for the original mail spool, and about 19-20mb for the generated HTML. You know, though, I still don't see the need for paid-for services. There are enough of us on BritDisc in the web development community that we can keep this kind of thing in-house. > What exactly was it you were thinking of doing? I've tried using the > archive a few times, and if it wasn't for the fact that the university > computers are fast, I would have found it a highly frustrating > experience. Now, my skills aren't that great just yet, but I am > currently studying computer science, and I do have an interest in > helping the beautiful game. If there is anything you think a first > year may be able to help with [Ideally no more than a few hours a > week, I'm afraid], please don't hesitate to ask. Basically, there are a variety of things that could be done. The simplest is splitting the display into small month-sized chunks. Now I've got some permanent web-space again and there is actually a demand for this, I'll probably re-visit this. My priority right now is the Old Bears web-site. Ralf. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 20 15:04:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1KEn3529032 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KEmjh28922 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:48:46 GMT Received: from dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk (dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk [149.170.190.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KEmdY29150 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:48:39 GMT Received: from defiance.mmu.ac.uk ([149.170.166.216]) by dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 14VE6X-0002Zg-00 for Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:49:25 +0000 Received: from MMU-MAN-DEFIANCE/DEFIANCE_MAIL by defiance.mmu.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43); 20 Feb 101 14:49:26 GMT0BST Received: from DEFIANCE_MAIL by MMU-MAN-DEFIANCE (Mercury 1.43); 20 Feb 101 14:49:01 GMT0BST From: "Lawrence Paulson" Organization: Manchester Metro Uni (FMB/ACA) To: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:48:57 GMT0BST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Online britdisc X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12b) Message-ID: <2A437B5689A@defiance.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, It's only been going since May 2000, but if anyone wants a searchable database of Britdisc's postings, then britdisc-daily's space at yahoogroups (formerly egroups) has one. Goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/britdisc-daily/messages And you don't even need a yahoo ID to browse it. Love & Luck, Lozza Fever Ultimate Britdisc Daily's Mr. Moderate From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 20 22:13:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1KMCOQ01911 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:12:24 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KMCMh01904 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:12:23 GMT Received: from dump.peldi.net (IDENT:root@r-bo043-1-29.tin.it [213.45.32.29]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KMCKF21571 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:12:21 GMT Received: from ultilinks.com (swing.peldi.net [192.168.1.2]) by dump.peldi.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1KMDTP17214 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:13:29 +0100 Message-ID: <3A92EBBB.C1D3AA4B@ultilinks.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:12:07 +0100 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: EUCC: New interview on Ultilinks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Ultilinks you can find a new interview with Jan of the organizing committee for the upcoming European Ultimate Club Championships: http://www.ultilinks.com/cgi-bin/viewint.cgi?file=2001_02 Peldi From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 20 22:13:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1KM8hB01334 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:08:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KM8fh01328 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:08:42 GMT Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KM8fF21351 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:08:41 GMT Received: from magic.excite.com ([199.172.148.161]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010220220827.RRDV2935.ewey.excite.com@magic.excite.com> for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:08:27 -0800 Message-ID: <11268815.982706907693.JavaMail.imail@magic.excite.com> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: M Allen Reply-To: To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: trouble getting into BUF site for rostering stuff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 195.92.194.11 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is it me or are other people having trouble getting into the BUF site? I managed yesterday to get some additions to our roster done but today i can't get in. Any hints anyone? Ben / Chris - if I can't get it done online then can I send you an email containing player details? Mal. SD aka MBM .\\|// mta99@bigfoot.com { o o } 0121 472 3694 (home) ...^ 07740 194 504 (mob) ...0 _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 20 23:02:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1KN12909022 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:01:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KN10h09016 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:01:00 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1KN0jF25395 for ; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:00:45 GMT Received: from modem-55.hydrogen.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.0.55] helo=ben) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14VLlw-0001Hy-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:00:41 +0000 Message-ID: <007a01c09b91$fa9b0340$3700883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" References: <11268815.982706907693.JavaMail.imail@magic.excite.com> Subject: Re: trouble getting into BUF site for rostering stuff Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:07:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry about the website problems. Scott assures me it will be working again tomorrow (Wednesday). Please do not email roster information to me. Thanks Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Allen" To: Sent: 20 February 2001 22:08 Subject: trouble getting into BUF site for rostering stuff > Is it me or are other people having trouble getting into the BUF site? > I managed yesterday to get some additions to our roster done but today i > can't get in. > Any hints anyone? > > Ben / Chris - if I can't get it done online then can I send you an email > containing player details? > > Mal. > SD aka MBM > > .\\|// mta99@bigfoot.com > { o o } 0121 472 3694 (home) > ...^ 07740 194 504 (mob) > ...0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 21 09:30:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1L9RbJ23814 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:27:37 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1L9RZh23794 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:27:35 GMT Received: from ntex1.webleicester.co.uk (ns2.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1L9RLY16788 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:27:34 GMT Received: by ns2.webleicester.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:32:10 -0000 Message-ID: <102C64E43C05D51184810080AD7451A355E5@ns2.webleicester.co.uk> From: Ian Scotland To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: trouble getting into BUF site for rostering stuff Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:32:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09BE9.29740B10" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09BE9.29740B10 Content-Type: text/plain The BUF site was down for hardware repairs last night and is now back up. My apologies to those trying to access it last night! Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of M Allen > Sent: 20 February 2001 22:08 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: trouble getting into BUF site for rostering stuff > > > Is it me or are other people having trouble getting into the BUF site? > I managed yesterday to get some additions to our roster done > but today i > can't get in. > Any hints anyone? > > Ben / Chris - if I can't get it done online then can I send > you an email > containing player details? > > Mal. > SD aka MBM > > .\\|// mta99@bigfoot.com > { o o } 0121 472 3694 (home) > ...^ 07740 194 504 (mob) > ...0 > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09BE9.29740B10 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: trouble getting into BUF site for rostering stuff

The BUF site was down for hardware repairs last night = and is now back up.  My apologies to those trying to access it = last night!

Scott

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> Subject: trouble getting into BUF site for = rostering stuff
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> Mal.
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C09BE9.29740B10-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 21 18:44:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1LIfDD10265 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:41:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LIfCh10253 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:41:12 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.43]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LIfBF28838 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:41:11 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:40:42 -0800 Received: from 194.82.103.35 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:40:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.35] From: "Simon Barry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Listen to the Voices - Play More Ultimate Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:40:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2001 18:40:42.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB2B34A0:01C09C35] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The SE Regional tournament has suffered a withdrawal and needs another team to take up the vacant place. Are there any student teams out there who are not going to student nationals this weekend and who were planning to spend the weekend doing something dull and irrelevant, like... not playing ultimate??? Or are you a member of the 2nd/3rd/4th/(Bears 5th/Bears 6th/...) team wondering why all the superstars are going to Edinburgh while you are stuck with finally getting around to your dissertation on Serbian Public Transport Policy in the 19th Century??? OR are you an unrecognised student talent who is tired of being passed to once every half hour at practice sessions while surrounded by a posse of gangling identikit disc-huckers with predictably wacky nicknames screaming "DUMP" at you???? WELL, GET OVER IT!!!! Get half a dozen of you together and come to the most happening part of London for a quality weekend of ultimate. We will accommodate you, feed you and/or show you 50 places to get fed, entertain you in a Central Brixton Bar on Saturday night and show you as much of the ways of the wicked world as you can take. You will play ultimate all weekend on a big pitch with oodles of game-time, chill-out room, on-site sauna and swimming pool. AND we will video at least 2 of your matches of your choice for you to take away with you. This is YOUR chance to be YOUR teams main Handler for an entire weekend - WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???? Just call your mates and e me right back and tell me that you are ready to kill any team that thinks it can stand between you and the weekend you deserve. We look forward to pleasing you Si B/Angels 020 7733 8155 sibarry@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 21 21:20:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1LLIk109674 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LLIhh09664 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:43 GMT Received: from t21mta03-app.talk21.com (mta03.talk21.com [62.172.192.172]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LLIhY15175 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:43 GMT Received: from host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com ([213.120.26.172]) by t21mta03-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010221212029.RGTQ24947.t21mta03-app.talk21.com@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:20:29 +0000 Received: by host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C09C4C.2938A6C0@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:20:48 -0000 Message-ID: <01C09C4C.2938A6C0@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'BUF'" , "'u8c'" , "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:19:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1LLIjh09667 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Finally, I think I have it sorted. Firstly, many, many, many thanks to the Dublin boys who have managed to rearrange their tournament to fit our schedule - I am most grateful. The Dublin event is now the weekend of 31st of March and 1st of April. Second, thanks as ever to the few tournament directors (and others who offered) who managed to come up with the goods at late notice once the EFDF finally sorted their lives out. Thirdly - some changes to the rules. Some of the events are limited on pitch numbers, and so the entry rules will change this year. No longer will the top teams get priority entrance - especially as they are usually the worst at entering on time. This year deadlines will be enforced, and teams that miss deadlines will not be allowed entry to events. If this means you are unable to qualify for Nationals, WUCC in Hawaii, or do not win the tour then unlucky. You have been warned. Emails of the 'it's in the post' will be ignored. Cost - due to the escalating costs of hosting an event, and to make all the grief of organising a tour event worthwhile the cost of entering a tour event has escalated and was approved at the BUF AGM (If you don't like this go the AGM next and gripe). The average tournament entry will be £150, with a sliding scale so that the higher seeded teams who gain more pitch time will pay anything upto £180. Those smaller teams further down the list an expect to pay less than £150. This includes BUF tax/deposit of £15 per team, which will get you in the queue. Women's events - there will be a couple of women's events at the later tour events. These will be separate, and independent events to the open tour, simply held on the same site. Maria Cahill is leading this little innovation, and more info will be available in the invites. At last the dates - Organisers contact details will go out on the mailshot along with info on how to enter (GET ON THE BUF MAIL LIST BY ENTERING YOUR CONTACTS ON THE WEBSITE - NOW!) 31st March - Dublin 7th April - T1 Bristol 14th April - Rimini (13th - 16th) 21st April 27th April 5th May - Brugge 12th May - T2 Banbury 19th May 26th May - Rotterdam (24th - 27th) 2nd June 9th June 16th June 23rd June - T3 Southampton 30th June - Junior Nationals 7th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th) 14th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th) 21st June - T4 Leeds Plans are afoot for the Open - Nolan has options (although some of the options don't involve Nolan Nationals are not yet confirmed - again plans are afoot Lots of space for other events, and of course Nancy will throw the co-ed events in there. If you can organise a co-ed event talk to her. Cheers, Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 21 21:22:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1LLIQP09615 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LLINh09605 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:23 GMT Received: from t21mta02-app.talk21.com (mta02.talk21.com [62.172.192.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LLINF10222 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:18:23 GMT Received: from host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com ([213.120.26.172]) by t21mta02-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010221211513.CKVP19514.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:15:13 +0000 Received: by host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C09C4C.07D4AD80@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com>; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 21:19:52 -0000 Message-ID: <01C09C4C.07D4AD80@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com'" , "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'Ben Ravilious'" Subject: RE: Registration of indoor team Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:28:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1LLIOh09610 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All teams. Why do you need to roster? The need to roster players to your teams is to prevent the increasing number of players who feel that it is acceptable to play for more than one team at a tournament. This is annoying enough when losing to opposition due to the addition of extra players, who then lose subsequent games because they have buggered off elsewhere, but when demonstrated at National Championships (of any kind) it says little for the development of the sport - especially when done by those teams who should be demonstrating the pinnacle of our sport. Any such activity at a BUF National championships will result in the disqualification of both teams that the floating player plays for. Where do you need to roster? On the BUF website through your team contact page. When do you need to roster? Due to technical faults causing unavailability of the website means that in a fit of leniency I have decided that teams can continue to roster their teams up to and including Tuesday of next week (Ben - can we make sure people are not locked out of the roster page until then. All teams that play at the London event will need to roster irrelevant of whether they qualify (we are trying to gain stats on indoor players). You will need to roster all players that played for you. Failure to do so will result in penalties - see above. Finally to answer the inevitable questions - yes a team can pick up a player between qualifiers and Nationals - as long as they did not play or were rostered for ANY team (irrelevant of whether they qualified or not) at qualifiers. Chris DoC ---------- From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com[SMTP:Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com] Sent: 21 February 2001 14:12 To: cjhughes@talk21.com Subject: Registration of indoor team Where, How , why do we have to register our team, could we not simply turn up and register once we know Who, is going to be there, you know the Lurkers, we couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone know what the team will be until at the earliest Saturday (probably not till Sunday.) Cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 21 23:34:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1LNSXG00065 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:28:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LNSUh00059 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:28:31 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f78.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.78]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1LNSUF18943 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:28:30 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:28:19 -0800 Received: from 64.12.101.163 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:28:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.12.101.163] From: "Kilkenny Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Gap in the summer schedule... Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:28:14 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Feb 2001 23:28:19.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[F92F4490:01C09C5D] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk


Chris Hughes wrote:

>
>31st March - Dublin
>7th April - T1 Bristol
>14th April - Rimini (13th - 16th)
>21st April
>27th April
>5th May - Brugge
>12th May - T2 Banbury
>19th May
>26th May - Rotterdam (24th - 27th)
>2nd June
>9th June
>16th June
>23rd June - T3 Southampton
>30th June - Junior Nationals
>7th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th)
>14th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th)
>21st June - T4 Leeds
>
 
With such a huge gap between Tour 2 and Tour 3 some of you may feel that you'll be out of match practice before Southampton.
 
Never fear, for this can be resolved by playing at the Kilkenny Ultimate Tournament 2001 on the 16th and 17th of June (yes, this is a blatant plug).
 
Check out the website at www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/kilkenny or mail me at
 
Come to the home of Kilkenny Beer for a weekend of mayhem, lunacy and quality Ultimate.
 
Ian.
 
 
 

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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 00:04:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1M02NJ06466 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:02:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1M02Lh06458 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:02:21 GMT Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1M02KF20974 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:02:21 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VjCh-00068Q-0V for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:01:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:00:19 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) References: <01C09C4C.2938A6C0@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com> In-Reply-To: <01C09C4C.2938A6C0@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wed, 21 Feb 2001, by Chris Hughes ; Subject: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) >2nd June >9th June >16th June >23rd June - T3 Southampton >30th June - Junior Nationals >7th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th) >14th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th) >21st June - T4 Leeds Obviously, the second June in 2001 is actually July :) Wayne PS: RossOnWye will probably happen in late July or early August... but the Fluid Druids need to check that the venue still actually exists before they commit to any more than this comment... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 10:06:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MA3rx23988 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:03:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MA3oh23977 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:03:50 GMT Received: from mail.dmt.co.uk (mail.dmt.co.uk [193.130.13.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1MA3iY12616 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:03:49 GMT Received: From DMTNT.DMT.CO.UK (192.168.10.2[192.168.10.2 port:3059]) by mail.dmt.co.uk Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <3164@mail.dmt.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:02:00 AM +0000 smtpmailfrom Received: by dmtnt.dmtdomain with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:52 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Meaney To: "'BUF'" , "'u8c'" , "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:18:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MA3qh23979 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > next and gripe). The average tournament entry will be £150, > with a sliding scale so that the higher seeded teams who gain > more pitch time will pay anything upto £180. Those smaller > teams further down the list an expect to pay less than £150. > This includes BUF tax/deposit of £15 per team, which will get > you in the queue. excellent - and for our money, I assume there will be *guaranteed* decent pitches and constant HOT showers, then?. If there is nay form of foul- up, you can be sure that any team paying up to 180 quid for a weekend will be less than amused should they finish late on a saturday to find the showers are freezing cold. Or is this now another argument that the Tour, in it's current format, is becoming too unwieldy and should be split into 'A' and 'B' tours? Also where on the BUF website can I find out exactly what the BUF does with a revenue of £2000 for the four Tours? Who remembers ultimatum, anyone? Basically, where on the website is the accounts for the last year (and statment of current expenditure). Again, I'd just like to see where the money is going. Paul ps - Chris nice one on getting the events actually sorted! From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 10:30:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MATP500861 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:29:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MATNh00846 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:29:24 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MATEY17899 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:29:23 GMT Received: from digley.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.79.248]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Vszm-0003OV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:29:10 +0000 Received: from DIGLEY/SpoolDir by digley.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 22 Feb 01 10:29:10 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by DIGLEY (Mercury 1.48); 22 Feb 01 10:29:07 +0000 From: "Mark Lean" To: "BritDisc" Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:29:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Tour Dates In-reply-to: <040c01c0995d$fb15ebe0$3800020a@perkin> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v3.12a) Message-ID: <29EAF346CBF@digley.shef.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MATOh00849 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 players it would make it very expensive for us. Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! Mark (Phat'Eds) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 11:25:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MBMjn17545 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MBMgh17532 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:42 GMT Received: from charon.cargill.com (charon.cargill.com [167.136.225.225]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MBMRY29570 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:32 GMT Received: from hermes.cargill.com (hermes.cargill.com [167.136.226.140]) by charon.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19318; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:22:16 -0600 (CST) From: Clifford_Bottomley@cargill.com Received: from cobo.cgo.cargill.com (avocdc01.admin.cargill.com [167.136.226.136]) by hermes.cargill.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03681; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:22:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by cobo.cgo.cargill.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA08551; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:09 GMT X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:05 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: Brixton - Indoor Qualifiers MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, buf@listbot.co.uk, u8c@egroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" ;Creation-Date="Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:05 +0000" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone give me the address of the Qualifiers in Brixton, I know it is at a sports center, but there seem to be two very close to the station. Cliff From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 11:25:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MBMLI17423 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MBM9h17381 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:09 GMT Received: from embelia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-7.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.161]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MBM7Y29517 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:22:07 GMT Received: from antholoma.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.153) by embelia.wanadoo.fr; 22 Feb 2001 12:22:05 +0100 Received: from pcolivier (193.253.229.129) by antholoma.wanadoo.fr; 22 Feb 2001 12:21:40 +0100 From: "Olivier Chevalier" To: "'BUF'" , "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:45 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01C09C4C.2938A6C0@host213-120-1-106.host.btclick.com> Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Another date not to forget : 2nd-4th June : Yes But Nau (2nd edition) Beach Ultimate Tournament In Le Pouliguen, near Nantes (France) 4 english teams are already registered Les Frisbeurs Nantais frisbeurs@free.fr http://frisbeurs.free.fr/ -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]De la part de Chris Hughes Envoyé : mercredi 21 février 2001 22:20 À : 'BUF'; 'u8c'; 'Britdisc' Objet : Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) Finally, I think I have it sorted. Firstly, many, many, many thanks to the Dublin boys who have managed to rearrange their tournament to fit our schedule - I am most grateful. The Dublin event is now the weekend of 31st of March and 1st of April. Second, thanks as ever to the few tournament directors (and others who offered) who managed to come up with the goods at late notice once the EFDF finally sorted their lives out. Thirdly - some changes to the rules. Some of the events are limited on pitch numbers, and so the entry rules will change this year. No longer will the top teams get priority entrance - especially as they are usually the worst at entering on time. This year deadlines will be enforced, and teams that miss deadlines will not be allowed entry to events. If this means you are unable to qualify for Nationals, WUCC in Hawaii, or do not win the tour then unlucky. You have been warned. Emails of the 'it's in the post' will be ignored. Cost - due to the escalating costs of hosting an event, and to make all the grief of organising a tour event worthwhile the cost of entering a tour event has escalated and was approved at the BUF AGM (If you don't like this go the AGM next and gripe). The average tournament entry will be £150, with a sliding scale so that the higher seeded teams who gain more pitch time will pay anything upto £180. Those smaller teams further down the list an expect to pay less than £150. This includes BUF tax/deposit of £15 per team, which will get you in the queue. Women's events - there will be a couple of women's events at the later tour events. These will be separate, and independent events to the open tour, simply held on the same site. Maria Cahill is leading this little innovation, and more info will be available in the invites. At last the dates - Organisers contact details will go out on the mailshot along with info on how to enter (GET ON THE BUF MAIL LIST BY ENTERING YOUR CONTACTS ON THE WEBSITE - NOW!) 31st March - Dublin 7th April - T1 Bristol 14th April - Rimini (13th - 16th) 21st April 27th April 5th May - Brugge 12th May - T2 Banbury 19th May 26th May - Rotterdam (24th - 27th) 2nd June 9th June 16th June 23rd June - T3 Southampton 30th June - Junior Nationals 7th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th) 14th June - EUCC Prague (7th - 15th) 21st June - T4 Leeds Plans are afoot for the Open - Nolan has options (although some of the options don't involve Nolan Nationals are not yet confirmed - again plans are afoot Lots of space for other events, and of course Nancy will throw the co-ed events in there. If you can organise a co-ed event talk to her. Cheers, Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 12:45:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MCfSS14835 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:41:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MCfNh14814 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:41:23 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MCf8Y19632 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:41:08 GMT X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 01 12:41:00 +0000 X-WebMail-UserID: ruth11 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:41:00 +0000 From: Ruth Taylor To: "Mark Lean" , BritDisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: RE: Tour Dates Message-ID: <3AF789CB@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MCfNh14815 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Mark, I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for students that are a lot cheaper. As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these events, then I would say that you're not that serious. If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger serious team for the summer and join them for the Tour. Ruth Red (in no way expressing the views of the team) >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 12:55:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MCohn18411 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:50:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MCoWh18318 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:50:34 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MCoUF22811 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:50:30 GMT X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 01 12:50:24 +0000 X-WebMail-UserID: ruth11 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:50:24 +0000 From: Ruth Taylor To: "Mark Lean" , BritDisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: RE: Tour Dates Message-ID: <3AF7EC92@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MCoYh18336 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Mark, I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for students that are a lot cheaper. As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these events, then I would say that you're not that serious. If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger Open team for the summer and join them for the Tour. Ruth Red >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 13:18:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MDFqR28682 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:15:52 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDF0h28434 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:15:46 GMT Received: from muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk (muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDELY26352 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:14:26 GMT Received: from canna (root@canna.dcs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.106]) by muck.dcs.ed.ac.uk with ESMTP id NAA22136; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:14:20 GMT Received: from localhost by canna; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:14:20 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:14:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Paul Eastman To: Ruth Taylor cc: Mark Lean , BritDisc Subject: RE: Tour Dates In-Reply-To: <3AF789CB@mail.totalise.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ruth, I think your argument fails all over the shop. Last year we, Ro-Sham-Bo played only 3 of the 4 tours, and still managed to qualify for nationals! All this was done by students, and we never took 12 people to a tournament.There are student teams out there who consider themselves quite seriousand as we proved last year we should be able to compete, because we just might suprise a few people. The cost may well put teams off, and so will attitudes like that. Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 13:22:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MDJtH00168 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:19:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDJqh00141 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:19:52 GMT Received: from grassmarket.ucs.ed.ac.uk (grassmarket.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.166.64]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDJpF27440 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:19:51 GMT Received: from swan-037 (swan-037.publab.ed.ac.uk [129.215.109.38]) by grassmarket.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1MDJob29859; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:19:50 GMT From: "Ben H" <9759341@sms.ed.ac.uk> To: BritDisc , Ruth Taylor Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:19:50 +0000 Subject: RE: Tour Dates Message-ID: <3A9511F5.3570.9A75DE51@localhost> In-reply-to: <3AF7EC92@mail.totalise.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Last year both Skunks and Ro-Sham-Bo, if I remember correctly, qualified for nationals, and were both purely student teams. I feel that students can compete at the highest level and should be given a lower entry fee. This would not be unique to ultimate and encourages grass-roots development. Laters Ben H (RSB) PS Skunks, I look forward to seeing you on the pitch this weekend.. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 13:37:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MDZSW05290 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDZQh05284 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:26 GMT Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDZQF29303 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:26 GMT Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Vvty-0002RD-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:22 +0000 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VvuB-0002Yk-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:35 +0000 Received: from peter (dialup-10-4.net.ic.ac.uk [155.198.8.148]) by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CGZR53XL; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:35:16 -0000 Message-ID: <00b101c09cd3$9ae1dda0$9e08c69b@peter> From: "Jonathan Palmer" To: "Ruth Taylor" , "BritDisc" References: <3AF789CB@mail.totalise.co.uk> Subject: Re: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:30:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing > Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for > students that are a lot cheaper. Term time or not is not really the issue, and which term time outdoor tournaments are you talking about, Student Outdoors + ?? Plus I'm sure that increasing the cost of Tour events will only make it easier for other TD's to increase the cost of their "cheaper" tournaments > As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams > SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least > 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these > events, then I would say that you're not that serious. One of the biggest reasons that these students teams can only manage 8-9 players is not that they aren't serious but that it was already very too expensive, especially when you add in travel. This increase in cost will only amplify this problem. > If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality > Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger serious team for the > summer and join them for the Tour. All very well in principle but much harder to do in practice, surely we should be encouraging new student players to start new teams, enter tour events and learn to play at a higher level. The growth ultimate numbers is going to come mostly from the student base I hope that this can be encouraged, student discounts sound like an excellent idea. Cheers Jon Palmer (DiscDoctors) >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 13:47:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MDia908252 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:44:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDiXh08238 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:44:33 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDiXY02945 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:44:33 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:43:27 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:42:16 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:42:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Of course the cost will put people off. But until ultimate players have a complete rethink of their attitudes towards the organisation of ultimate and tournaments the tour is dead. It will not progress beyond this year or the next in its present form. It needs to change. But - people like the large events, which are difficult to organise, difficult to provide quality facilities like hot showers (ever been to a concert where the toilets have backed up Paul?), and very difficult to book. Few venues have the facilities to cope with over 600 people wanting a shower in two hours. So to provide these facilities the cost will escalate, and these events are still run on a shoe string with little reward for organisers. These organisers are doing more and more as fewer and fewer people are prepared to get involved. So that is the bottom line - don't get me wrong, the tour is a fantastic concept and has worked well, but is too big to survive in its present form - the tour is a dinosaur - and like the dinosaur it is going to be extinct - and in the meantime you are going to be paying for life support. In the meantime - don't winge to me, don't winge to Britdisc - the time to complain was at the AGM, and most of you weren't there. Chris DoC -----Original Message----- From: Paul Eastman [mailto:pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk] Sent: 22 February 2001 13:14 To: Ruth Taylor Cc: Mark Lean; BritDisc Subject: RE: Tour Dates Ruth, I think your argument fails all over the shop. Last year we, Ro-Sham-Bo played only 3 of the 4 tours, and still managed to qualify for nationals! All this was done by students, and we never took 12 people to a tournament.There are student teams out there who consider themselves quite seriousand as we proved last year we should be able to compete, because we just might suprise a few people. The cost may well put teams off, and so will attitudes like that. Paul Eastman Ro-Sham-Bo Edinburgh Student Ultimate pde@dcs.ed.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 13:55:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MDrfH11044 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:53:41 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDrdh11039 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:53:39 GMT Received: from mailhost.fisher.co.uk (mailhost.fisher.co.uk [193.132.123.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1MDrcY04780 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:53:38 GMT Received: from SYSTEMS-Message_Server by mailhost.fisher.co.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:54:22 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:54:08 +0000 From: "Matthew Lowe" To: Subject: Wolverhampton players Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MDreh11040 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, A friend of mine is currently studying at Wolverhampton Uni and is keen to start an Ultimate team. He is not the most experienced of players and is struggling to find the minimum numbers to get the Student Union's support. I was hoping to put him in touch with a local ultimate team but to my surprise Wolverhampton appears to be an Ultimate wilderness. If there are any Wolverhampton based players on this list (or that you know of) that are interested in starting a local team please can you get in touch with me. Thanks in advance, Matt teamless matthewl@fisher.co.uk matthew.lowe@ntlworld.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 13:57:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MDuol12308 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:56:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDudh12213 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:56:39 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f179.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.179]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MDuNY05393 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:56:28 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:56:12 -0800 Received: from 193.82.207.155 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:56:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.82.207.155] From: "Gareth Goo" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:56:12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2001 13:56:12.0939 (UTC) FILETIME=[377FADB0:01C09CD7] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think the suggestion about a lowered price for Student teams sounds perfectly reasonable. I would also say that it is fairly offensive to imply that student teams are not as "serious" about playing as the "adult" teams just because they are asking for a lower entry fee. I would hazard a guess that it's because of lack of funds that many student teams do not play in the tour, also when I was as student the Tour takes place over the Final exams period and the fact that so many student players turn up is a testimony to their commitment. Should you discount an enitre team just because they struggle to get 8/9 members because the rest have exams? or should we be encouraging that kind of commitment and enthusiasm for OUR sport rather than telling them to go back to the playground? There are some brilliant student players around, why the hell should they have to go and play for an other team rather than their own just because they couldn't afford to enter? Seems a bit of dumb argument to me. Good suggeastion Mark (Phat Ed's)....maybe a bit of support is in order from the rest of us. Gareth - Hammerge ex. Fish _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 14:01:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1ME16x13921 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:01:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1ME13h13901 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:01:03 GMT Received: from vulture.bird.com ([194.217.135.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1ME11Y06442 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:01:01 GMT Received: by VULTURE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1Z882A6H>; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:58:44 -0000 Message-ID: From: Deirdre Mahon To: "'Jonathan Palmer'" , Ruth Taylor , BritDisc Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:58:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1ME14h13902 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If cost is the real issue, then what about charging non-student teams a usual fixed fee and charging student teams a reduced fee per person; thus ensuring the events are not prohibitively expensive for up and coming talent regardless of squad numbers. Deirdre -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Palmer [mailto:jonathan.palmer@ic.ac.uk] Sent: 22 February 2001 13:30 To: Ruth Taylor; BritDisc Subject: Re: Tour Dates > I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing > Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for > students that are a lot cheaper. Term time or not is not really the issue, and which term time outdoor tournaments are you talking about, Student Outdoors + ?? Plus I'm sure that increasing the cost of Tour events will only make it easier for other TD's to increase the cost of their "cheaper" tournaments > As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams > SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least > 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these > events, then I would say that you're not that serious. One of the biggest reasons that these students teams can only manage 8-9 players is not that they aren't serious but that it was already very too expensive, especially when you add in travel. This increase in cost will only amplify this problem. > If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality > Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger serious team for the > summer and join them for the Tour. All very well in principle but much harder to do in practice, surely we should be encouraging new student players to start new teams, enter tour events and learn to play at a higher level. The growth ultimate numbers is going to come mostly from the student base I hope that this can be encouraged, student discounts sound like an excellent idea. Cheers Jon Palmer (DiscDoctors) >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 BIRD & BIRD The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information which may be confidential and which may also be privileged. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Further, we make every effort to keep our network free from viruses. 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Details of our offices are available from http://www.twobirds.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 14:19:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MEHm119921 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:48 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MEHih19883 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:44 GMT Received: from virgo.cus.cam.ac.uk (cusexim@virgo.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MEHcF07843 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:43 GMT Received: from caj1.arch.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.34.20]) by virgo.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14VwYk-0002TU-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:17:30 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:20:04 +0000 Subject: Tour Dates etc. From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To everyone out there...take note. People seem perfectly willing to complain about Tour issues on email (such as the higher fees this year) where it is easy. But did anyone show up at the AGM where these issues were discussed extensively. No - despite all the prior announcements about the meeting and active persuasion at the Nationals themselves. With 16 teams at the Nationals only two were represented outside the BUF committees and that included the hosting team! If people want to have a say in British Ultimate and make their say count then they have to make the effort and COME TO THE AGM! There are a few hard-working people out there desperately trying to run this show but without much encouragement or thanks from the rest of the community. Dora Kemp Strange Blue From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 14:26:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MEPUZ22606 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:25:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MEPQh22579 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:25:27 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MEPQF09364 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:25:26 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04627; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:25:24 GMT Received: from B14E-24.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14e-24.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.204]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f1MEPNl09259; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:25:23 GMT From: andy cox Reply-To: ajc298@soton.ac.uk To: Ruth Taylor Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour Dates In-Reply-To: <3A9511F5.3570.9A75DE51@localhost> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:25:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ruth, Skunks finished where we did having not made it to Leeds as the travel cost was putting people off who thought we were going to Birmingham (no gripe intended to the organisers) and RSB also went to 3 out of 4. Skunks put out 2 teams in Southampton - so there are people wanting to play, but only when they don't have to pay for travelling the length of the country. If the opinion is that student teams are less important than your "serious" teams then take a look at how many of those "serious" players started at university. Then look at the fact that two student teams made it to the nationals without attending all the events. And don't forget that stundent teams run some of your "serious" events. Think twice before shutting the door on student ultimate, although it could well solve Chris's problem with his dinosaur. Angie (Skunks) PS RSB see you tomorrow - I can't wait. ---------------------- andy cox ajc298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 15:08:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MF5AZ08032 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:05:10 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MF57h08005 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:05:07 GMT Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MF51Y20999 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:05:06 GMT Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VxIi-0004pD-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:05:00 +0000 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14VxIw-0005dX-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:05:14 +0000 Received: from peter (dialup-10-6.net.ic.ac.uk [155.198.8.150]) by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CGZR5QH3; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:04:56 -0000 Message-ID: <011101c09ce0$21d098e0$9e08c69b@peter> From: "Jonathan Palmer" To: References: Subject: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:59:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Chris/Dora, I think most people appreciate the effort and time put in to the organizing of the tour, and I agree that the level of representation at the AGM is pretty sad, BUT on the issue of student participation in tour events I disagree. Most of the student based teams (with the exception of Skunks and RSB) play in the 16-32 and didn't qualify for Nationals. So your asking these student teams to fork out 50 quid for a train ticket and find accommodation for the night to go to the AGM to put their point across that British ultimate is too expensive for students?? I don't buy that, britdisc is a fine forum for these issues to be discussed it's easy and cost nothing. Secondly I don't remember Tour costs being an advertised topic of discussion at the AGM, and on doing a brief scan of the britdisc archive I can't find any mention there either. Thirdly, You have to have to have a team to get a proxy vote, so what are newly forming student based teams supposed to do to get their point across? Wait until the tour is over and go to the next AGM or try and get a sensible discussion (not whining) on britdisc? Chris or whoever's responsibility it is what is your position on some sort of student discounts? Jon Palmer (DiscDoctors) ----- Original Message ----- From: Dora Kemp To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: Tour Dates etc. > To everyone out there...take note. > > People seem perfectly willing to complain about Tour issues on email (such > as the higher fees this year) where it is easy. But did anyone show up at > the AGM where these issues were discussed extensively. No - despite all the > prior announcements about the meeting and active persuasion at the Nationals > themselves. With 16 teams at the Nationals only two were represented outside > the BUF committees and that included the hosting team! > > If people want to have a say in British Ultimate and make their say count > then they have to make the effort and COME TO THE AGM! There are a few > hard-working people out there desperately trying to run this show but > without much encouragement or thanks from the rest of the community. > > Dora Kemp > Strange Blue From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 15:17:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MFFRu11435 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:15:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MFFNh11407 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:15:23 GMT Received: from mail.dmt.co.uk (mail.dmt.co.uk [193.130.13.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1MFF6Y23542 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:15:06 GMT Received: From DMTNT.DMT.CO.UK (192.168.10.2[192.168.10.2 port:3261]) by mail.dmt.co.uk Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <3238@mail.dmt.co.uk> for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 3:13:04 PM +0000 smtpmailfrom Received: by dmtnt.dmtdomain with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:29:56 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Meaney To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:29:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MFFNh11411 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > (ever been to a > concert where the toilets have backed up Paul?), and very yes chris I have. so I do the sensible thing - have a dump before I go and then have one when I get back! However a concert usually lasts two hours. So what are you proposing? If I follow your logic you are suggesting I do not have a shower all weekend, but have one before I leave and one when I come back?. that's fine by me! - which means you don't need changing rooms, SO bring the costs down!!! I'm just saying that if you are going to take money off me I expect a certain standard in return. If you bought a video player and it was crap, you take it back and give someone grief. Likewise if someone takes your money for a tournament and it is badly run with lousy facilities and they have the nerve to charge over £100 then likewise that organiser should be held accountable. organisers. These organisers are doing more and more as fewer > and fewer > people are prepared to get involved. > and again, is that not because a 32 team tour event is too large? Given also that on a per tour basis, the people who are most affected are those playing for crossover into top/ bottom 16, as that affects overall nationals qualifiaction? > In the meantime - don't winge to me, don't winge to Britdisc > - the time to > complain was at the AGM, and most of you weren't there. to Chris and Dora... hmmm... yes... about this whinging thing.... Chris, I've looked at your initial report at: http://www.ultimateweb.co.uk/buf/tour2001.htm Dora, I've also looked at the agenda for the meeting: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/britdisc-daily/message/552 (can I strongly suggest ALL ultimte players who were NOT at the AGM have a look too.) in NEITHER OF THESE does it say: 'oh and another disadvantage, we are going to have to hike the cost of a tour entry fee by up to 100% in 2001'. what you are proposing is changes to the tour structure from (at least) 2002 onwards! And this mean prices have to go up because..... Chris, you must admit you *slightly* omitted that little perl of wisdom. Dora, you must also acknowledge that the agenda details were also lacking in this. Where was the motion: increase of tour fees for the 2001/2002 season. If it was slipped in under AOCB, that is what I call being bloody underhanded! That should have been a SEPERATE issue as it DIRECTLY affects all players/ teams - especially students. If that had been included in the digest/ full report, I'm sure that more people would have been interested in attending. Do people not think it a *tad* important to be told "Oh, by the way the average entry fee is going to up by at least 50 quid?" Dora, you say no- one turned up. Is it any wonder? The agenda of the meeting looks as it it is tailored EXCLUSIVELY for the BUF and U8C. Do you not think that people are only really interested if something *directly* affects them? Whatever you decide, there will still be tours of some form. Big deal. People will still get to play disc, in whatever format YOU decide. Hooyah! That is why we have committees - to do the thinking for us!! (yes I know, major can of worms, but at heart it's the truth). However, anything that involves radical price hikes is something that needs to be told to people because that DOES affect people. Can you not see a knock on effect? Increasing the price of a tour event can also cause across the board increases in other tournaments. So - Dora, it was not on the agenda that tour fees were going to be increased. Chris - in your (absolutely correct, IMHO) report It was not mentioned that tour fees for the 2001 season were going to have to increase. Therefore I believe I'm fully entitled to bring it to light now. Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 15:36:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MFYiK18300 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:34:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MFYgh18287 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:34:42 GMT Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MFYRF20131 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:34:27 GMT Received: from cs701705.central.susx.ac.uk ([139.184.136.19]) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 14Vxjm-0005Xu-00; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:32:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:34:20 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: mmu32@central.susx.ac.uk (Nicole Roberts) To: gareth_goo@hotmail.com (Gareth Goo), britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: RE: Tour Dates In-Reply-To: <011101c09ce0$21d098e0$9e08c69b@peter>; from "mmu32" at Thu Feb 22 15:34:20 2001 X-Mailer: Siren Mail (Windows Version 4.0.2 (Windows 95/NT)) X-Sender: mmu32@mailhost.central.susx.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And while we're talking about numbers, if we look at the co-ed tour which admittedly is somewhat smaller, at nationals one of the teams was playing iron man, and the team consisted of some of the best players in british ultimate, so surely we cannot relate the number of players to the quality of ultimate . There has also been many instances in the tour events where the top teams have only fielded a 8 or 9 strong team. (Maybe red just need to work on their fitness...) I do agree that something needs to be done about the tour, but ostricising players because of their financial position does nothing to improve the quality of british ultimate. Just my tuppence worth (as I feel there will be a collection of coppers soon) Nicole mohawks From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 16:32:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MGUVc08849 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:30:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MGURh08831 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:30:27 GMT Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MGURF27851 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:30:27 GMT Received: from mx1.ft.com (mx1.ft.com [194.128.253.3]) by mx1.ft.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA04944 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:28:25 GMT Received: FROM ima1.ft.com BY mx1.ft.com ; Thu Feb 22 16:28:14 2001 0000 Received: from Lotus Notes by ima1.ft.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 002864B2; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:34:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:10:08 +0000 Message-ID: <002864B2.N22024@ft.com> From: Paolo.Nistri@ft.com (Paolo Nistri) Subject: RE: Tour Dates To: Ruth Taylor Cc: ARA98MDL@sheffield.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Description: Reply Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1MGUTh08843 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >>then I would say that you're not that serious. >>Ruth >>Red Do you play for a serious team? Paolo Ruth Taylor on 02/22/2001 12:50:24 PM To: ARA98MDL@sheffield.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Paolo Nistri/MDD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: RE: Tour Dates Mark, I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for students that are a lot cheaper. As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these events, then I would say that you're not that serious. If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger Open team for the summer and join them for the Tour. Ruth Red >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * For UK personal finance, please visit http://www.ftyourmoney.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster@ft.com * ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 16:33:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MGWEB09514 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:32:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MGWCh09505 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:32:12 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f58.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.58]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MGVdF28034 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:31:39 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:31:26 -0800 Received: from 152.163.201.186 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:31:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.201.186] From: "John Randall" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: sheffield indoors Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:31:25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2001 16:31:26.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6A87AF0:01C09CEC] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If anyone from the London area is making the trip up to Sheffield for the Northern indoors on the 3 + 4th Feb and wants a bit of company for the journey I would be very grateful for a lift and I'm happy to chip in for petrol and stuff. If this sounds like you please drop me a line. Cheers, John, Odd Job...... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 16:54:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MGpBn17563 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:51:11 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MGp6h17507 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:51:07 GMT Received: from dns1.tctrust.net (lovelace.tctrust.net [212.250.101.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MGp1Y15981 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:51:01 GMT Received: from rmproxy1.landau-forte.org.uk (proxy.landau-forte.org.uk [10.20.117.1]) by dns1.tctrust.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29972 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:52:00 GMT Received: from WR_PEPA1 (WR_PEPA1 [192.168.1.142]) by rmproxy1.landau-forte.org.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ga031128 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:49:16 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01c09cef$1c7f5e80$8e01a8c0@wrpepa1> From: "unwin" To: "Nicole Roberts" , References: Subject: Re: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 16:46:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C09CEF.12480340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C09CEF.12480340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would personally like to know how many of the individuals expressing = their opinions on Britdisc have contributed to the organisation of = tournaments or the tour itself on any level aside from reaping the = benefits of others labour. To name Ruth's team and infer anything, = joking or not Nicola, is shameful. One member of Ruth's team is BUF = president, another I believe is integral in the maintenance of britdisc = itself, another has recently organised Junior Nationals and is now = organising tour 2 in Banbury (a very central location) and the team = itself have run numerous tournaments including Nationals. Hand on heart = does the team really deserve anything but a vote of thanks. Here's my = tuppence, go organise a tournament. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicole Roberts To: Gareth Goo ; Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: RE: Tour Dates > And while we're talking about numbers, if we look at the co-ed tour > which admittedly is somewhat smaller, at nationals one of the teams = was > playing iron man, and the team consisted of some of the best players = in > british ultimate, so surely we cannot relate the number of players to > the quality of ultimate . There has also been many instances in the > tour events where the top teams have only fielded a 8 or 9 strong = team.=20 > (Maybe red just need to work on their fitness...) >=20 > I do agree that something needs to be done about the tour, but > ostricising players because of their financial position does nothing = to > improve the quality of british ultimate. >=20 > Just my tuppence worth (as I feel there will be a collection of = coppers > soon) >=20 > Nicole > mohawks >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C09CEF.12480340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would personally like to know how = many of the=20 individuals expressing their opinions on Britdisc have contributed to = the=20 organisation of tournaments or the tour itself on any level aside from = reaping=20 the benefits of others labour.  To name Ruth's team and infer = anything,=20 joking or not Nicola, is shameful.  One member of Ruth's team is = BUF=20 president,  another I believe is integral in the maintenance of = britdisc=20 itself, another has recently organised Junior Nationals and is now = organising=20 tour 2 in Banbury (a very central location) and the team itself have run = numerous tournaments including Nationals.  Hand on heart does the = team=20 really deserve anything but a vote of thanks.  Here's my tuppence, = go=20 organise a tournament.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Nicole Roberts <mmu32@central.susx.ac.uk>=
To: Gareth Goo <gareth_goo@hotmail.com>; = <britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk= >
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:34=20 PM
Subject: Re: RE: Tour = Dates

> And while we're talking = about=20 numbers, if we look at the co-ed tour
> which admittedly is = somewhat=20 smaller, at nationals one of the teams was
> playing iron man, and = the=20 team consisted of some of the best players in
> british ultimate, = so=20 surely we cannot relate the number of players to
> the quality of = ultimate=20 .  There has also been many instances in the
> tour events = where the=20 top teams have only fielded a 8 or 9 strong team.
> (Maybe red = just need=20 to work on their fitness...)
>
> I do agree that something = needs to=20 be done about the tour, but
> ostricising players because of their = financial position does nothing to
> improve the quality of = british=20 ultimate.
>
> Just my tuppence worth (as I feel there will = be a=20 collection of coppers
> soon)
>
> Nicole
>=20 mohawks
> ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C09CEF.12480340-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 17:16:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MHES726582 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:14:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MHEQh26574 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:14:26 GMT Received: from ovemailhub2.arup.com (ovemailhub2.arup.com [193.116.20.21]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1MHEKY20776 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:14:25 GMT Received: from 69.69.6.61 by ovemailhub2.arup.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:29:06 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: from mailhub2.arup.com (127.0.0.1) by mailhub2.arup.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0000E3CA@mailhub2.arup.com>; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:23:10 +0000 Received: from 69.69.11.39 by mailhub2.arup.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:23:10 -0000 (GMT Standard Time) Received: from a_cnts21.arup.com (hub2) by Exchange-gateway-out (4.1/SMI-SVR4) id AA04089; Thu, 22 Feb 01 17:14:31 GMT Received: by A_CNTS21 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:14:25 -0000 Message-Id: <50262ABE9B88D311991E00A0244C33FB7744C7@C_CNTS01> From: Steve Higgins To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: sheffield indoors Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:12:02 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C09CF2.E7B40AEE" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09CF2.E7B40AEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ditto Steve (Fat Ted's Ultimate Club) > -----Original Message----- > From: John Randall [mailto:mexicans21@hotmail.com] > Sent: 22 February 2001 16:31 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: sheffield indoors > > > If anyone from the London area is making the trip up to > Sheffield for the > Northern indoors on the 3 + 4th Feb and wants a bit of > company for the > journey I would be very grateful for a lift and I'm happy to > chip in for > petrol and stuff. > > If this sounds like you please drop me a line. > > Cheers, > > John, Odd Job...... > ______________________________________________________________ > ___________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C09CF2.E7B40AEE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: sheffield indoors

ditto

Steve
(Fat Ted's Ultimate Club)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Randall [mailto:mexicans21@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 22 February 2001 16:31
> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk
> Subject: sheffield indoors
>
>
> If anyone from the London area is making the trip up to
> Sheffield for the
> Northern indoors on the 3 + 4th Feb and wants a bit of
> company for the
> journey I would be very grateful for a lift and I'm happy to
> chip in for
> petrol and stuff.
>
> If this sounds like you please drop me a line.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John, Odd Job......
> ______________________________________________________________
> ___________
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C09CF2.E7B40AEE-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 17:36:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MHYqm02695 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:34:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MHYoh02685 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:34:50 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.214]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MHYnF09799 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:34:49 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:34:38 -0800 Received: from 193.82.207.155 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:34:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.82.207.155] From: "Gareth Goo" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:34:38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2001 17:34:38.0136 (UTC) FILETIME=[BACE0B80:01C09CF5] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ok. No I haven't held a tour tournament. I have held a student one, but having only just graduated I haven't quite got round to a tour. But that's besides the point. The reason there has been a response to the mail is compounded by the fact that it comes from (although not on behalf of, or representing) a team which does do a lot for Ultimate. I think little name calling is silly, but at the same time the comment was bound to get people's backs up when you question their commitment to a sport which basically only exists because of the time and effort EVERYONE puts in, that means not simply being TD but attending, playing, paying the lot. Basically we all know we have a problem with the tour because of venues and rising costs, and the increase in team numbers in general, placing more pressure upon "someone" to come up with the answer. Increasing the fee may well be a part of that answer, but prior warning of quite such a jump might have been a good idea with hindsight, do we not think? And a student discount doesn't really seem all THAT unreasonable does it? Hell, students are the backbone of most tournaments, basically because they have the time and the drinking capacity to be there all the time and I think the response was a bit harsh. Can we not start slamming everyone that decides to join the discussion and start taking sides, since this IS supposed to be a british ultimate forum....not bitching. Errrr...I think that's all my change gone from my piggy bank and some extra from my sock drawer...... Gareth - Hammerage ex. Fish _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 18:05:21 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MI3Dh10344 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:03:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MI3Ch10334 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:03:12 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f292.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.167]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MI3BY27763 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:03:11 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:02:57 -0800 Received: from 143.167.2.14 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:02:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [143.167.2.14] From: "Robert Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour Costs. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:02:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Feb 2001 18:02:57.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFDE38E0:01C09CF9] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Venues cost money. Do you honestly think that Chris and whoever else make the decisions about hosting Tour events have the luxury of picking bids on the basis of cost. There aren't that many suitable venues out there and there aren't many people willing to organise events. If there were then cost could be one of the factors taken into consideration. Yes it's a pain when the showers are cold and yes it's annoying that costs are going to go up. But it's unlikely that there were many viable alternatives. Would you rather there was no Tour at all. The cost may put students off but split between a team of 8 you're only talking about an extra £10 a player. There may be exceptions but generally everyone ( even students ) who really want to play will be ablt to save up that amount extra every 3 or 4 weeks Those that put bids together should be applauded for their hard work. More bids = more competition = lower costs. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 18:19:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MIIIL15412 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:18:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIIGh15401 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:18:16 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIH5Y00427 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:17:06 GMT Received: from [212.159.133.58] (ruth11@totalise.co.uk) by mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:16:49 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 01 18:16:49 +0000 Message-ID: <008f01c09cfb$0f047a90$3a859fd4@hq1039.bass.co.uk> From: "Ruth" To: "Paolo Nistri" Cc: Subject: Re: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:09:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes Do you even have a team?! -----Original Message----- From: Paolo Nistri To: Ruth Taylor Cc: ARA98MDL@sheffield.ac.uk ; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thursday, February 22, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: RE: Tour Dates >>>then I would say that you're not that serious. >>>Ruth >>>Red > >Do you play for a serious team? > >Paolo > > > > > >Ruth Taylor on 02/22/2001 12:50:24 PM >To: ARA98MDL@sheffield.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk >cc: (bcc: Paolo Nistri/MDD/LONDON/FTI) > >Subject: RE: Tour Dates > > >Mark, > >I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing >Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for >students that are a lot cheaper. > >As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams >SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least >12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these >events, then I would say that you're not that serious. > >If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality >Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger Open team for the summer >and join them for the Tour. > >Ruth >Red > >>===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >>Hi, >> >>Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >>help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >>teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >>players it would make it very expensive for us. >> >>Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >>up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >>for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! >> >>Mark >>(Phat'Eds) > >----------------------- >Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! >Visit www.flowers2send.com or phone 0845 1200 430 > > > > > > >********************************************************************* >* Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * >* http://www.ft.com * >* * >* For UK personal finance, please visit http://www.ftyourmoney.com * >* * >* This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * >* contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * >* recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * >* of this communication is strictly prohibited. * >* If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * >* immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * >* * >* postmaster@ft.com * >********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 18:20:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MIJRA15755 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:19:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIJOh15715 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:19:24 GMT Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIJNF14680 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:19:23 GMT Received: from default ([213.104.232.42]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010222181919.JYZA285.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@default> for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:19:19 +0000 Message-ID: <00cd01c09cf2$f962e300$afe968d5@default> From: "matthew.lowe" To: References: Subject: Re: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:14:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Skunks finished where we did having not made it to Leeds as > the travel cost was putting people off Yeah southern teams do have it hard, what with having to travel to one northern tour event a year and everything :) Is it my maths or are we only talking about an increase of roughly £6 per player for each event. Granted top teams may have to pay more but I'm sure most top teams will have a big squad (I'm not saying small teams may have low skill levels just that big squads tend to cope better), so the increase still levels at about the same each. Is that so much to ask?? Travel costs are still the same! Accommodation is still the same! It's just £6!! That's about 3 pints, surely you can give those up!?!?!? I've had to pay for my own ultimate play for a long time as a junior, it is an expensive sport but that's mainly due to the travel, this increase is very little per head and it keeps the 32 team events that we love. Of course we could play A and B tours, but personally I'm gonna shell out that little extra to keep the tour I love. Matt From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 18:52:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MIoQH24637 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIoOh24631 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:24 GMT Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIoJF17791 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:19 GMT Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14W0oj-0002Cb-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:17 +0000 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14W0p1-0004u6-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:35 +0000 Received: from peter (dialup-9-16.net.ic.ac.uk [155.198.8.144]) by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CGZR5S8N; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:50:16 -0000 Message-ID: <018201c09cff$9cf57760$9e08c69b@peter> From: "Jonathan Palmer" To: References: Subject: Re: Tour Costs. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:45:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yes I agree that cost are rising but 50% over one year is hardly in line with inflation. If these increase are really due to higher costs then how about someone posts one of the budgets/cost analysis from one tour last year and one tour this year, that way we can all see the difference. Assuming that each tour runs at a small profit surely a small cut in profits to offer student discounts would be acceptable in order to encourage student teams. more information = less scepticism = less whining/bitching = happier people Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Owen To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:02 PM Subject: Tour Costs. Venues cost money. Do you honestly think that Chris and whoever else make the decisions about hosting Tour events have the luxury of picking bids on the basis of cost. There aren't that many suitable venues out there and there aren't many people willing to organise events. If there were then cost could be one of the factors taken into consideration. Yes it's a pain when the showers are cold and yes it's annoying that costs are going to go up. But it's unlikely that there were many viable alternatives. Would you rather there was no Tour at all. The cost may put students off but split between a team of 8 you're only talking about an extra £10 a player. There may be exceptions but generally everyone ( even students ) who really want to play will be ablt to save up that amount extra every 3 or 4 weeks Those that put bids together should be applauded for their hard work. More bids = more competition = lower costs. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 18:59:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MIwbr26171 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:58:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIwah26162 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:58:36 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MIwZF18621 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:58:35 GMT Received: from hq1039 [212.159.131.62] (ruth11@totalise.co.uk) by mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:58:28 +0000 X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 01 18:58:28 +0000 Message-ID: <00b601c09d00$e0c128d0$3a859fd4@hq1039.bass.co.uk> From: "Ruth" To: Subject: Re: Tour Costs. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:54:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK OK. Seeing as everyone seems to think I was slagging off all Students, and have started slagging back, I'd better put the record straight. Please cast your minds back to the email I responded to... "Bearing in mind that student teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 players it would make it very expensive for us." The inference from the email was that because it is not term time, student teams find it hard fielding a full squad. I was simply saying that this is not a good enough argument to ask for a reduction in costs. I do NOT think that all students have no commitment to the sport, or are worse players than Open players, as some people seemed to think I said. Most "serious" teams (there's that word again) have loads of players who commit to the Tour early and that's the way it should be. The Tour should not have teams in it that have just been scraped together. That's what I firmly believe. I know, you'll all say that there are not enough other tournaments for teams like this to play in outside of the Tour and this is the age old argument. Maybe now Tour tournaments are too expensive, more of you will start organising your own. I do agree that Student ultimate is the greatest area of growth for the sport, and should continue to be. Now you have more incentive to get even more players together! To illustrate what I was suggesting, Red will probably field squads of around 15 players, maybe more, for all Tours. This has already been confirmed and this includes some students from the local universities because they realise that their own university teams would be unlikely to be able to field a full squad. Another instance of Uni teams organising themselves for the Tour is the Mohawks and Mwnci See collaboration - they realised that on their own they didn't have enough players, but together they could do it justice. Believe it or not, I have nothing against a discount for students if there's a good reason (although that will undoubtedly mean that us tax-payers will be paying even more and subsidising you again ;-) ), and you've come up with lots of more viable arguments now than lack of players and that's fair enough. Now please - let's stop the personal slagging, there's no need. It looks like you'll have to wait for the next AGM to sort it all out now, because most of the Tours are well into the organised stage. So take my suggestion as an idea on how students can compete in the Tour without paying astronomical costs. Ruth Red From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 23:21:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MNIDU12032 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:18:13 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MNIAh12022 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:18:10 GMT Received: from cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.173]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MNI0Y27017 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:18:04 GMT Received: from modem-81.aluminum.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.12.81] helo=ben) by cmailg3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14W4zm-0006WG-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:17:58 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c09d26$bbf3a980$510c883e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: <011101c09ce0$21d098e0$9e08c69b@peter> Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:25:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, I could bore you all with how I want us to have individual membership, electronic voting, a proper newsletter, etc, etc but I won't. What I will say is that proper player representation is something that I have put my mind to and when I find the time I will share the subject with everyone. On the subject of the Tour fees, I'll come clean and admit that I was the one who first suggested the so called 'price hike'. The reason for this is because we are experiencing big problems with finding tournament hosts with the current Tour format and wanted to increase the incentive for people to run events. I proposed that rather than having tournament directors bidding to run an event for the cheapest price we should set a price and invite TD's to bid on the basis of having the *best venue and facilities for that price* This would have the added advantage of taking the heat from snipers like Paul Meaney off the tournament directors back and onto the BUF (who love that sort of thing :-). If however people perceive the BUF as some sort of profit-making outfit with a customer services hotline and £5 goodwill vouchers for annoyed customers then they really should stop watching Watchdog and start finding out more about how we work (or don't work). In fact it would be great if more people could contribute their considered time and opinion but usually it all goes quiet when I suggest this! Re Student discounts: The principle of making events cheaper for students is a perfectly reasonable one and indeed one I am proposing with the association individual membership fee. However, I'm afraid for the time being we have a messed-up 2001 Tour to run and need to run that before the longer term stuff can be sorted. One of the options with Chris Hughes' plan for dividing the Tour (which we shelved due to lack of attendees at the AGM) is to vary the prices across the divisions. This would mean that the generally non-student top division would pay more for a 'superior experience' and the lower divisions (*generally* where *most* of the student teams fit) would get the usual bargain events we're all used to. Please spare me the "how well the University of Central Studentshire did" rant - yes there are some great student outdoor teams around but they will *never* threaten the top eight teams just as there are no uni soccer teams in the premiership (bad analogy but you get the point) We are reaching a point here where the Tour has a conflict of interest between the top teams who want it to be the best event possible and are generally willing to pay extra to get it and the lower placed teams who see it as the only credible outdoor event worth attending but are not happy with paying extra. I've had brand-new novice teams asking about playing in the Tour which is madness and is certainly not what it was designed for. The Solution: Like it or not, we need some means of subdividing the Tour (or whatever events we eventually decide to use to rank teams in this country.) This might be based on regionalisation or it might be based on team quality. If people want to start a debate on *this* subject then brilliant - do us all a favour and express yourselves instead of sitting on your arses and letting someone else make all the decisions. Some of the older players with work and childcare committments might even like to discuss whether the principle of doing everything at tournaments is always the most suitable. I wonder how many people we lose purely because an event taking up a whole weekend is not practical. Another debate worth having.... We must agree on a system which acknowledges the commitment and higher facility requirements of the elite teams but *also* allows for more laid back 'recreational' teams with smaller budgets and less concern over commitment. And we must create a ladder of opportunity between all the levels of competition so that teams get to play at the most suitable level yet still have a crack at superior teams. To my mind a system of divisions with regular relegation and promotion between seems ideal. On the other hand some might argue that regionalisation would be better as it would encourage local growth and reduce travel distances. Please, for pity's sake, come up with some constructive ideas and opinions on how we should proceed. Ben (BUF Secretary) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Palmer" To: Sent: 22 February 2001 14:59 Subject: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) > Chris/Dora, > > I think most people appreciate the effort and time put in to the organizing > of the tour, and I agree that the level of representation at the AGM is > pretty sad, BUT on the issue of student participation in tour events I > disagree. Most of the student based teams (with the exception of Skunks and > RSB) play in the 16-32 and didn't qualify for Nationals. So your asking > these student teams to fork out 50 quid for a train ticket and find > accommodation for the night to go to the AGM to put their point across that > British ultimate is too expensive for students?? I don't buy that, britdisc > is a fine forum for these issues to be discussed it's easy and cost nothing. > > Secondly I don't remember Tour costs being an advertised topic of discussion > at the AGM, and on doing a brief scan of the britdisc archive I can't find > any mention there either. > > Thirdly, You have to have to have a team to get a proxy vote, so what are > newly forming student based teams supposed to do to get their point across? > Wait until the tour is over and go to the next AGM or try and get a sensible > discussion (not whining) on britdisc? > > Chris or whoever's responsibility it is what is your position on some sort > of student discounts? > > Jon Palmer > (DiscDoctors) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dora Kemp > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:20 PM > Subject: Tour Dates etc. > > > > To everyone out there...take note. > > > > People seem perfectly willing to complain about Tour issues on email (such > > as the higher fees this year) where it is easy. But did anyone show up at > > the AGM where these issues were discussed extensively. No - despite all > the > > prior announcements about the meeting and active persuasion at the > Nationals > > themselves. With 16 teams at the Nationals only two were represented > outside > > the BUF committees and that included the hosting team! > > > > If people want to have a say in British Ultimate and make their say count > > then they have to make the effort and COME TO THE AGM! There are a few > > hard-working people out there desperately trying to run this show but > > without much encouragement or thanks from the rest of the community. > > > > Dora Kemp > > Strange Blue > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Feb 22 23:45:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1MNieB17835 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:44:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MNibh17825 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:44:37 GMT Received: from puce.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1MNiaF09769 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:44:37 GMT Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by puce.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14W5PX-0004N2-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:44:35 +0000 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14W5PX-0007hP-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:44:35 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: A suggestion for partly solving the cost-of-travel issue Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:44:35 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Here is a suggestion for British ultimate tournaments, based on the way things work in America. SPLIT THE YEAR INTO TWO OUTDOOR SEASONS ======================================= Spring Season ------------- In this season there would be GEO-TOURS. Each geo-tour tournament would be (1) not very far to travel; (2) not a super-huge tournament, because it would only be hosting one quarter of the UK teams. The spring season would also contain the STUDENT-ONLY tournaments, and, maybe, the NATIONAL COED TOUR. Summer Season ------------- In this season, there would be a NATIONAL TOUR. The teams entering the national tour would not necessarily be similar to the teams in the geo-tours. For example, perhaps some of the nationwide big-gun squads would play in separate local Geo teams in the geo tour, and would then form into a big-gun squad for the Nationals. This would be a good thing for Geo ultimate, without sacrificing the ambitions of the best players to play in top teams. The Summer season would be a natural time to hold a series of WOMENS TOURNAMENTS too. =========================== Just in case it wasn't clear, the Geo-tours would be organised in (say) four regions (SE,SW,Midlands,Scotland, or whatever). Hope this idea helps David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- David J.C. MacKay email: mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk www: http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/ Cavendish Laboratory, tel: (01223) 339852 fax: 354599 home: 740511 Madingley Road, international code: +44 1223 Cambridge CB3 0HE. U.K. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 01:43:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1N1eSk10114 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:40:28 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1N1eNh10097 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:40:23 GMT Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1N1eMY06995 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:40:23 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14W7DT-000IJ2-0A for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:40:17 +0000 Message-ID: <2vVPDiA8Aal6Ewc9@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:26:52 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Re: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thu, 22 Feb 2001, by Paul Meaney ; Subject: Tour Dates!!!!!!! (Yeaah) > excellent - and for our money, I assume there will be *guaranteed* >decent pitches and constant HOT showers, then?. Maybe not this year, but with any luck next year there'll be so many bids to hold Tour events that we'll actually see a bidding war and therefore sensible (i.e. making an "acceptable" level of profit) prices for tournaments, because people will actually bother to NOT ONLY think "I can do better than this, for cheaper (and still make a bit of cash)", but ACTUALLY DO IT!!! As for the venues for the 2001 Tour. E > Or is this now another argument that the Tour, in it's current >format, is becoming too unwieldy and should be split into 'A' and 'B' tours? ... and require co-ordination of twice as many venues that can't understand the concept of ultimate and wonder why we want showers if we're only throwing a frisbee around... > Also where on the BUF website can I find out exactly what the BUF >does with a revenue of £2000 for the four Tours? not sure about the location of such info, but... in the 4 years (1997-2000) that the Tour has been running so far, I can think of: cones, and replacement thereof; scoreboards; waterbottles and replacement thereof; petrol contribution for the DoC carting these things about the country; phone/postage costs for the DoC in co-ordinating the events; Tour Champions and Tour Spirit trophies. Not sure what this all adds up to, but I'd reckon it's more than you, or even I, might guess at. >Who remembers ultimatum, anyone? Me. I've got copies of them all from issue 20 (October 1990) to issue 38 (July 1999) And I know how much hard work went in, again from a VERY small group of people. Ultimatum died because there are people willing to put the effort into presentation/publishing the info, BUT very few people submit anything. It's kinda tempting to try for the various copyright holders permissions to scan them and put them on the web... anyone know what it costs to set up a pay-site? [Joke! I think...?] >ps - Chris nice one on getting the events actually sorted! Aye! and thanks to the TDs for putting in the effort - I for one am looking forward to a year's Ultimate without having any personal accountability!!! Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 10:13:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NAAKJ05906 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:10:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NAAHh05888 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:10:17 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f291.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.166]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NAAGF17177 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:10:16 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:10:10 -0800 Received: from 129.11.159.105 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:10:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.159.105] From: "Kilkenny Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour costs Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:10:09 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2001 10:10:10.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[CDD8DC10:01C09D80] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk How about paying approximately £28 stg. for a tournament? Yes that's all it costs to play in the Kilkenny Ultimate Tournament 2001! Yes you lucky people are all invited to come on a lovely holiday to the real heart of Ireland (and home of Kilkenny Beer): Kilkenny. While there play some fantastic ultimate in the leafy green surrounds of Kilkenny College, with full facilities provided of course. It's all happening on the 16th/17th June, a weekend free of any other disc related activities. So visit www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/kilkenny and sign up, or contact the TDs at kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com Don't miss out on this incredible opportunity to play cheap ultimate and see the real Ireland. Brendan Jedi, oddJOB, Ireland. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 10:26:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NAPkH10293 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:25:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NAPih10286 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:25:44 GMT Received: from mail.dmt.co.uk (mail.dmt.co.uk [193.130.13.212]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1NAPfF20057 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:25:41 GMT Received: From DMTNT.DMT.CO.UK (192.168.10.2[192.168.10.2 port:3485]) by mail.dmt.co.uk Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <3343@mail.dmt.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:12:52 AM +0000 smtpmailfrom Received: by dmtnt.dmtdomain with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:29:46 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Meaney To: BRITDISC Subject: RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:29:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > On the subject of the Tour fees, I'll come clean and admit > that I was the > one who first suggested the so called 'price hike'. The that's fine ben. Where was it in the AGM minutes? please don't say under AOCB? > This would have the added advantage of taking the heat from > snipers like > Paul Meaney off the tournament directors back and onto the hmmm.. so I'm a sniper now? No I'm a BLOODY ULTIMATE PLAYER. I love this game and am sick and tired of the 'well just be thankful there was an event, no matter how shit and by the way it'll cost you WELL more than last year' kind of attitude so prevalent nowadays. I've run tournaments when I've restricted entry because the venue was crap, and ALL TEAMS WERE TOLD IN ADVANCE that is was crap and I MADE DAMN SURE THE COSTS WERE DOWN. silly bloody me! I should have just doubled all the prices, told everyone they should be grateful, made about a grand and sorted out the Sneeekys kit for the following year. But I didn;t and that tournament (the Edinburgh Beginners) is appraching it's 10th year, is complelety oversubscribed and is on the list of the best tournaments. Come on guys, it's about putting players FIRST and your money SECOND!!! I guess I'm just a wee bit too idealistic for this game. in the meantime, Ben, yes I will continue to take potshots at tournaments which offer less than Value For Money! I did it, why the hell can't you! Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 11:23:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NBLIB27997 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:21:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NBLGh27982 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:21:16 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NBLAF00033 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:21:15 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29912; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:21:09 GMT Received: from B25A-07.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b25a-07.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.24.116]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f1NBL9l12321; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:21:09 GMT From: andy cox Reply-To: ajc298@soton.ac.uk To: "David J.C. MacKay" Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: A suggestion for partly solving the cost-of-travel issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:21:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > SPLIT THE YEAR INTO TWO OUTDOOR SEASONS > ======================================= > Just in case it wasn't clear, the Geo-tours would be organised > in (say) four regions (SE,SW,Midlands,Scotland, or whatever). Would that incorporate a system of the best 4 (say) from each area qualify for the national tour? Allowing "lesser" teams to poach the experienced players would obviously be great during the first half of the season. For instance there's been talk of a team in Reading starting but people have been reluctant to leave their established teams for a start-up, understandably, although the new team is closer to home (no criticism meant to be levelled at any Reading player, was just an example) However, if you're allowing teams to seperate and rejoin between each half of the season would there be a case of top four get to re-enter without qualifying? And what would happen to the teams which benefited from those big teams' players being free and then lost them for the second half of the season? Would the second half be the point for Chris' A and B tours? E.g. Top 4 get to play in tour A and next four get Tour B. This could leave Tour B at risk of inconsistent attendance, but is it a risk worth taking? Sounds like a very promising idea, for my money if the above (and a few other points without doubt) are sorted could well be a great idea. Angie Skunks ---------------------- andy cox ajc298@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 11:40:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NBdos04237 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:39:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NBdnh04232 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:39:49 GMT Received: from 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (IDENT:root@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk [213.167.73.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NBdmY29835 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:39:48 GMT Received: from fetchmail.com (IDENT:web@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk [213.167.73.4]) by 020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17354 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:39:47 GMT Message-Id: <200102231139.LAA17354@020-out.hosting.coconut.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) From: "Ben Ravilious" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:39:47 0100 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul, Can I have your considered opinion on how we should encourage more people to come forward and run tournaments please. In return I will personally email you a copy of the minutes of the AGM. The larger the tour gets and the more demanding the players become for decent facilities, the less TD's come forward. Its that simple. The days when people ran major tournaments for the good of the sport alone are gone I'm afraid. Thats not because people don't care any more, its because they have jobs, families and lives to go to and aren't able to offer the effort and commitment to running events. And you're making it worse by demonstrating exactly what response they can expect when it doesn't go perfectly. That said, you would indeed by right to expect better events given the higher fees. We're all looking forward to the improvements the extra budget should enable. And on the subject of the AGM, the main reason the last one was not well attended was because it was only announced a week in advance. And why was it not annouced earlier? Because we couldn't find a venue for the Nationals where we agreed to hold the meeting! HELLO!!! Paul, I really don't mean this to be having a personal go at you, but until you show some signs of positive input you will be treated as nothing but a sideline heckler. If you have experience of running tournaments then PLEASE run an event. We're desparate for venues. I am prepared to admit that at present AGMs aren't particularly effective but all I can offer is that I AM trying to do something about it. As someone else pointed out, expecting every team to be represented at the AGM is not really practical - thats why I want to implement electronic/postal voting as part of the association. If you have any experience of running committees or organising democracy then please come forward - we need your help. One final point, there is no requirement for every subject to be discussed and voted on at AGM. Its generally better to allow the officers to make executive decisions. You can then vote them out if you don't like it - otherwise noone can ever do anything without having to vote on it which is pants. Again I am prepared to admit that some of us officers are not always very open about what our intentions are. Please understand this is not due to some hidden agenda (we're not paid for heavens sake) - just that we happen to have other things other than the BUF in our lives (no honestly ;-) STAND AGAINST US. See you at the AGM then? Ben > > > > On the subject of the Tour fees, I'll come clean and admit > > that I was the > > one who first suggested the so called 'price hike'. The > > that's fine ben. Where was it in the AGM minutes? please don't say > under AOCB? > > > This would have the added advantage of taking the heat from > > snipers like > > Paul Meaney off the tournament directors back and onto the > > hmmm.. so I'm a sniper now? No I'm a BLOODY ULTIMATE PLAYER. I love > this game and am sick and tired of the 'well just be thankful there was an > event, no matter how shit and by the way it'll cost you WELL more than last > year' kind of attitude so prevalent nowadays. I've run tournaments when I've > restricted entry because the venue was crap, and ALL TEAMS WERE TOLD IN > ADVANCE that is was crap and I MADE DAMN SURE THE COSTS WERE DOWN. silly > bloody me! I should have just doubled all the prices, told everyone they > should be grateful, made about a grand and sorted out the Sneeekys kit for > the following year. > > But I didn;t and that tournament (the Edinburgh Beginners) is > appraching it's 10th year, is complelety oversubscribed and is on the list > of the best tournaments. > > Come on guys, it's about putting players FIRST and your money > SECOND!!! > > I guess I'm just a wee bit too idealistic for this game. > > in the meantime, Ben, yes I will continue to take potshots at > tournaments which offer less than Value For Money! I did it, why the hell > can't you! > > Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 12:03:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NC2WZ11664 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:02:32 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NC2Uh11654 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:02:31 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1NC2OF05034 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:02:24 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.65] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000032179 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:02:46 +0000 Message-ID: <3A965148.728FD07D@deepend.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:04:48 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: A suggestion for partly solving the cost-of-travel issue References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk andy cox wrote: > Allowing "lesser" teams to poach the experienced players > would obviously be great during the first half of the > season. The mixing of 'high level' players with beginners is already happening of course with much success in the form of the London Summer League. The benefit to the beginner is obvious, and the experienced player has to work harder than usual to make up ground normally covered by his/her team-mates. More productive ideas and discussion like this is what I want to read on Britdisc, it's the only way we're going to move our sport forwards. *Our* sport, remember that. This isn't about one person giving all the grief or coping all the flack. Work together and leave the squabbling out of it. Bes* Jes* Back on Tour From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 12:28:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NCRVD20881 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NCRSh20853 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:28 GMT Received: from mailhub1.shef.ac.uk (mailhub1.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NCRSF08002 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:28 GMT Received: from hagglee.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.59.252]) by mailhub1.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14WHJm-0001eL-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:26 +0000 Received: from HAGGLEE/SpoolDir by hagglee.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.48); 23 Feb 01 12:27:27 +0000 Received: from SpoolDir by HAGGLEE (Mercury 1.48); 23 Feb 01 12:27:19 +0000 From: "Tony Hutton" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Tour costs X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1NCRTh20857 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I do realise the effort, or rather I can probably guess at a fraction of the effort, it takes to organise the tour and the problems of suitable venues etc... but for a student a tournament during term time usually costs about £20, this includes the entry fee and transportation to and from the tournament. This is because we are able to hire minibuses/share cars as we are all coming from the same area i.e the university. The tour being out of term time (understandably for the climatic conditions) is not that cheap. The entry fees may not be unreasonable in themselves however the transportation costs increase dramatically as we usually have to get there individually and from all over the country. In my case I would estimate that the travel last year cost an additional £45 for each event. Do we (students) have to suffer this increased cost or are we forced to play for a team other than the one with our friends who's abilities we know, that we have been training with three times a week, have played with in tournaments over the rest of the year and who's tactics we know well? Can a student discount to compensate for this added cost not be seriously considered? In writing this I am not asking for it this year/now I realise all the arrangements are made etc.. but am merely adding my vote to question put forward, as I very much doubt I will be able to afford the time/costs of attending this years AGM. Tony (phat ed's) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 12:28:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NCRHR20788 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NCRGh20779 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:16 GMT Received: from mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NCRGY10943 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:16 GMT Received: from wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.24]) by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14WHJW-0001et-00; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:10 +0000 Received: from mackay by wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with local (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14WHJW-0000KM-00; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:10 +0000 To: ajc298@soton.ac.uk, mackay@mrao.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: A suggestion for partly solving the cost-of-travel issue Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: From: "David J.C. MacKay" Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:27:10 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > SPLIT THE YEAR INTO TWO OUTDOOR SEASONS > Would that incorporate a system of the best 4 (say) from > each area qualify for the national tour? My suggestion would be to have no connection at all between the Geo tour and the National tour, so as to encourage top players to put their weight into their Geo team for part of the year. Some teams (eg Red, and other geo-squads) might remain the same, but I'd certainly expect a load of reforming of teams. [Of course, it would be a blast to have a tournament with the top 4 from each region fighting it out for the "top Geo-team" trophy; we should do that, at the end of the Geo-tour.] >> What would happen to the teams which benefited from those big teams' players being free and then lost them for the second half of the season? Teams like that would have other tournaments organised for them, and would [I hope] organise tournaments themselves too. They could participate in a National or Geo "B" league. They could go to open tournaments like Ross-on-Wet. ---------- Thanks for your positive reaction, David From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 14:01:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NDwRZ21469 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:58:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NDwPh21463 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:58:25 GMT Received: from mail.dmt.co.uk (mail.dmt.co.uk [193.130.13.212]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1NDwHF22122 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:58:19 GMT Received: From DMTNT.DMT.CO.UK (192.168.10.2[192.168.10.2 port:3619]) by mail.dmt.co.uk Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <3374@mail.dmt.co.uk> for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 1:56:08 PM +0000 smtpmailfrom Received: by dmtnt.dmtdomain with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:13:02 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Meaney To: "'BRITDISC' (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:13:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1NDwPh21464 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben, chris had the right idea. Make the tour smaller. I believe I've mentioned this about four or five times. Ultimate is not a high enough profile sport in the UK to demand access to decent facilities of the size required by the tour. That way you only have to worry about one large event - Nationals. personally email you a > copy of the minutes of the AGM. > Ben, I'm not desperately bothered about the minutes, as that's closing tha gate after the horse has bolted.. but I am bothered about why this budget increase was not on the Agenda. That's all I have been asking. And also, why has it taken until now (the AGM was in september) to find out that the Tour fees are going up dramatically? This, surely, is a question of accountability? > The larger the tour gets and the more demanding the players > become for decent > facilities, the less TD's come forward. Its that simple. The so the simple answer is make the tour smaller. Or have we already mentioned this. ning > events. And you're making it worse by demonstrating exactly > what response they > can expect when it doesn't go perfectly. Ben - it's all about information. Britdisc has been around for years. I don't think it would be too much to ask of a TD to send an email out saying "guys, we've been let down by the groundstaff and there are no hot showers. We are really sorry and will look into offering you a refund. Just be aware opf this when you turn up". Is that so difficult. But no - the attitude is "good show! great effort! the facilities were shit, but well worth the £100 per team" people are quite happy to take the congratualtions for doing the event. dare to criticise something and you get stamped on. > > That said, you would indeed by right to expect better events > given the higher > fees. We're all looking forward to the improvements the extra > budget should > enable. > agreed. > Paul, I really don't mean this to be having a personal go at > you, but until you > show some signs of positive input you will be treated as > nothing but a sideline > heckler. and this bothers me because.... So is that an official line of the BUF? to utterly ignore criticism? I am sick and tired of the closing of ranks when a tournament goes drastically wrong. Instead of a hands-up 'yep, sorry, we goofed we'll do better next time' , the attitude of recent years has been a closed shop "tough, you should be grateful" or "if you can do better do it yourself" attitude. that's a crock of b.s. Anyways Ben what am I criticising? I am having a go at a tour entry fee of 150 quid MINIMUM. I am also criticising the BUF for (a) not mentioning this little nugget in the AGM agenda (b) not telling us until now and (c) not making the AGM minutes publicly available. for the sixth time Chris Huges has the right Idea (god I never thought I'd say that in public!) I have read his proposal, I think it's well thought out and he's covered all bases, from a top teams POV as well as a lower teams POV. He's right about the skills gap between top and bottom 12 and the issue of number of promotable teams remains tricky. He's come up with a number of ideas and scenarios to get around this issue. I have no idea which one will work best in practice. An option is to have no promotion/ relegation on a per tour basis, but on a per season. Nationals include all of division 1 and eg top four of division2. I disagree with his nationals strategy, but hells teeth, I don't think it's been done before, give it a go and see what people think! If it's crap and doesn't work - don't to it again. At least give the man the benefit of the doubt and give it a try. At the end of the day, you have to give things a try, see what works, see what doesn't, take the criticisms on the chin, and take them POSITIVELY, LEARN from them and DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME! The attitude of late has to be constantly defend, rather than learn from mistakes and strive to improve. I think that the defensiveness of your repsonse, Ben , has merely emphasized this point. The actual issues are being missed under a load of rhetoric. This is not squabbling, this is highlighting flaws in the existing structure , and a little humility on the part of either the BUF, the U8C or a TD to admit when things are not working wouldn't go amiss. That's what I'm getting at. > One final point, there is no requirement for every subject to > be discussed and > voted on at AGM. Its generally better to allow the officers > to make executive > decisions. You can then vote them out if you don't like it - what, decisions like upping Tour fees by 50%? what's the next one? BUF Taxes up by 200% Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 14:24:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NEN9d29320 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:23:09 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NEN6h29299 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:23:06 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NEN5F25385 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:23:05 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus.open.ac.uk via SMTP Local (Mailer 3.1); Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:22:51 +0000 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07631; Fri, 23 Feb 01 14:22:49 GMT Message-Id: <10102231422.AA07631@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: "'BRITDISC' (E-mail)" , Paul Meaney Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:22:47 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Options RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk What are the possibilities for tour events (and others) following what seems to be the European practice of having a team fee for entering tournaments combined with an additional personal fee for each player. This would seem to take some of the burden off smaller teams and share costs out more evenly amongst everybody playing at a tournament. I suppose the downside is that this may not accurately reflect pitch time versus cash paid on an individual basis, but to be honest I'm not entirely convinced thats how the players on the top teams view events such as the tour. Can anybody comment on the pros and cons of such a fee system? Pete Connor From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 14:55:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NEsGj11134 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:54:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NEsFh11129 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:54:15 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe45.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.17]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NEsEF29137 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:54:14 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:54:02 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [212.140.165.130] From: "Kevin Lowe" To: "Britdisc" References: <10102231422.AA07631@damson.open.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Options RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:56:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Feb 2001 14:54:02.0258 (UTC) FILETIME=[75C97F20:01C09DA8] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We have had many events where there is a team fee plus a player fee. BUF Open at Eastbourne is a recent example, but going back a few years, some of the tournaments I ran had that concept (National Indoors in Plymouth 94, £2.50 per head to sleep in Sports Hall and have breakfast; South West Regionals 95, again for breakfast, etc.), mainly because you were trying to have 'added value' and it seemed wrong that larger squads would benefit more if you just whacked up the team fee to cover costs. The downside is the administration involved. If you're issuing party tickets, then it's normally in team's interests to declare the right number. Issuing meal tickets means someone has to 'police' the system. When the tour first started, it was discussed at some length whether teams in the top 8 should pay a higher rate because of their privileged position (tended to be longer games, better pitches, etc.) and generally, have a much larger squad. Catch always tended to be the exception playing with a squad of 9 (normally not through choice). I'm pretty sure we did agree this tiered system of payment, but no one ever put it into effect. We also discussed having a team fee and a player fee on top (mainly because of student teams that struggled to get a team of more than 8 players out), but without the obvious added value, administering it was the sticking point. Tournament Directors and U8 committee members have enough on their plate without the added inconvenience. With Stig (Tour 2) looking at the possibility of providing this added value, then there will a good test case for the tour. Echoing what others have said, if you're concerned about the hike in price of tour tournaments (and I certainly am), then do something about it. Put in a bid to run a Tour tournament next year. Having had two years off from running a Tour event in Exeter, I almost feel stress-free enough to do it again, and I can promise that the team fee (can't be arsed with player fees) will still not be over £60. Kevin. --- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07968 249437 | Won't see the golden of the sun when I'm gone | And the evenings and the mornings will be one when I'm gone | Can't be singing louder than the guns when I'm gone | So I guess I'll have to do it while I'm here. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 19:24:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NJLmO19616 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:21:48 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NJLkh19610 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:21:46 GMT Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NJLfY14887 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:21:46 GMT Received: from modem-66.california.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.56.66] helo=ben) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14WNav-0001xf-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:09:33 +0000 Message-ID: <00f701c09dce$e0e37240$4238893e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:26:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul, This is my last output on the subject as I think most people have had enough. (happy to continue in private if you're going offer to help us though Paul!) Making the Tour smaller is fine but we then need to find something for the non-tour teams to do. As of this year the Tour is the main means of getting national rankings (of interest to every team whatever their standard) This means that, as I said, we need to provide a ladder of opportunity leading up to the Tour as the pinnacle. So even if the Tour is reduced to say 12 teams, we must have lower level 'national' events accessible to every team. Fee increase - sorry it wasn't on the agenda (hell no - it doesn't have to be!). The idea only came to me at the AGM as a suggestion and we didn't agree on it or take a vote on it at that time (we're not required to and we agreed NOT to prolong the meeting with AOB stuff). In fact the increase was purely an executive decision by the committee to try to drum up more interest from potential TD's. Not fantastically accountable but not beyond acceptable limits of our executive powers either. As to whether TD's get criticism or not - moot point - I think they get their fair share when things go wrong (ask Nancy Stebbing about the Towcester response). We felt we had to be seen to be standing up for her otherwise there was a danger that noone would ever want to run a tournament again. The more important issue is whether we get TD's *at all* and *that* is the purpose of the increased fees. Official BUF line on criticism is "If you don't like what others do, do it better yourself" This applies to us volunteer officers and to TD's (though TD's should expect some criticism if events are poor value for money) and is why your rather aggravated style of criticism annoys us. If you were to turn round and offer your assistance by either getting involved in the running of the BUF or bidding for a tournament then you'll find us far less 'defensive'. Can you not appreciate how infuriating and arrogant paragraphs like this.... "At the end of the day, you have to give things a try, see what works, see what doesn't, take the criticisms on the chin, and take them POSITIVELY, LEARN from them and DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME!" .... seem to someone who gives up their free time do run something? Why the hell do you wait until its gone wrong (in your opinion) before saying something. Why weren't you at the AGM to voice your concerns? Do you claim to know any better and would perform any better than the current BUF officers? What in the way of assistance are you offering to make this better? No really, what are YOU going to do actually help us? We'll listen if you've got ideas to put forward (like Dave MacKay's geo Tour.) And we DO listen to criticism when it is more rational than just shouting at us the top of your voice. What you fail to grasp is that any of us officers can walk away from all of this tomorrow and there isn't a thing you can do about it so you bloody well have to like it, lump it or get involved and change it yourself. Top tips for working with volunteers:- Every extra piece of effort they do is a bonus, If they do nothing you cannot complain, Thanks is always appreciated, Criticism needs to be constructive, and, most important of all, help is absolutely vital. Paul, If you want to earn the respect of everyone you really should now put your money where your mouth is and offer to help us. We need:- 1. Someone willing to research an suitable democratic set-up for an individual membership association. 2. Someone to print, seal and post the Tour mailshot 3. Someone to put together and maintain advice leaflets for such things as how to run a tournament, how to start a team, how to coach players, how to retain women players, how to advertise your club, how to warm up properly, etc, etc 4. Someone to support teams who are recruiting new players (especially at universities). They must be willing to mail-out promotional stuff of use in fresher's fairs. 5. Someone to audit injuries and see if we can reduce the number. 6. Someone to hold our stock of discs and mail them out to teams and players who buy them. 7 +101 other people we need. Can you help? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Meaney" To: "'BRITDISC' (E-mail)" Sent: 23 February 2001 14:13 Subject: RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Ben, chris had the right idea. Make the tour smaller. I believe I've mentioned this about four or five times. Ultimate is not a high enough profile sport in the UK to demand access to decent facilities of the size required by the tour. That way you only have to worry about one large event - Nationals. personally email you a > copy of the minutes of the AGM. > Ben, I'm not desperately bothered about the minutes, as that's closing tha gate after the horse has bolted.. but I am bothered about why this budget increase was not on the Agenda. That's all I have been asking. And also, why has it taken until now (the AGM was in september) to find out that the Tour fees are going up dramatically? This, surely, is a question of accountability? > The larger the tour gets and the more demanding the players > become for decent > facilities, the less TD's come forward. Its that simple. The so the simple answer is make the tour smaller. Or have we already mentioned this. ning > events. And you're making it worse by demonstrating exactly > what response they > can expect when it doesn't go perfectly. Ben - it's all about information. Britdisc has been around for years. I don't think it would be too much to ask of a TD to send an email out saying "guys, we've been let down by the groundstaff and there are no hot showers. We are really sorry and will look into offering you a refund. Just be aware opf this when you turn up". Is that so difficult. But no - the attitude is "good show! great effort! the facilities were shit, but well worth the £100 per team" people are quite happy to take the congratualtions for doing the event. dare to criticise something and you get stamped on. > > That said, you would indeed by right to expect better events > given the higher > fees. We're all looking forward to the improvements the extra > budget should > enable. > agreed. > Paul, I really don't mean this to be having a personal go at > you, but until you > show some signs of positive input you will be treated as > nothing but a sideline > heckler. and this bothers me because.... So is that an official line of the BUF? to utterly ignore criticism? I am sick and tired of the closing of ranks when a tournament goes drastically wrong. Instead of a hands-up 'yep, sorry, we goofed we'll do better next time' , the attitude of recent years has been a closed shop "tough, you should be grateful" or "if you can do better do it yourself" attitude. that's a crock of b.s. Anyways Ben what am I criticising? I am having a go at a tour entry fee of 150 quid MINIMUM. I am also criticising the BUF for (a) not mentioning this little nugget in the AGM agenda (b) not telling us until now and (c) not making the AGM minutes publicly available. for the sixth time Chris Huges has the right Idea (god I never thought I'd say that in public!) I have read his proposal, I think it's well thought out and he's covered all bases, from a top teams POV as well as a lower teams POV. He's right about the skills gap between top and bottom 12 and the issue of number of promotable teams remains tricky. He's come up with a number of ideas and scenarios to get around this issue. I have no idea which one will work best in practice. An option is to have no promotion/ relegation on a per tour basis, but on a per season. Nationals include all of division 1 and eg top four of division2. I disagree with his nationals strategy, but hells teeth, I don't think it's been done before, give it a go and see what people think! If it's crap and doesn't work - don't to it again. At least give the man the benefit of the doubt and give it a try. At the end of the day, you have to give things a try, see what works, see what doesn't, take the criticisms on the chin, and take them POSITIVELY, LEARN from them and DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME! The attitude of late has to be constantly defend, rather than learn from mistakes and strive to improve. I think that the defensiveness of your repsonse, Ben , has merely emphasized this point. The actual issues are being missed under a load of rhetoric. This is not squabbling, this is highlighting flaws in the existing structure , and a little humility on the part of either the BUF, the U8C or a TD to admit when things are not working wouldn't go amiss. That's what I'm getting at. > One final point, there is no requirement for every subject to > be discussed and > voted on at AGM. Its generally better to allow the officers > to make executive > decisions. You can then vote them out if you don't like it - what, decisions like upping Tour fees by 50%? what's the next one? BUF Taxes up by 200% Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Feb 23 19:33:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1NJWco21034 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:32:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NJWbh21022 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:32:37 GMT Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1NJWaY15402 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:32:37 GMT Received: from modem-66.california.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.56.66] helo=ben) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14WNlb-0004hn-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:20:36 +0000 Message-ID: <014f01c09dd0$6bb5aa40$4238893e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Message from the BUF Treasurer Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:39:51 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul, The money from the tour goes towards the purchase of: Cones Water containers Scoreboards and their transport to and from all the tour tournaments. It also covers the administrative costs of printing and sending out the relevant documentation relating to the tour. Whats left over plus the other tournament taxes covers any other expenses the BUF runs up like all the phone calls sorting out stuff like European or Worlds participation both for clubs and the national teams, BUF membership of the World Federation to allow our teams to participate in those events, 3rd party insurance etc. We also had to front the money for many of the participating National teams last year, and covered some of the medical expenses. there was also a small amout used to help fund the junior team to participate in World Nations last year. There will be a financial report produced for the AGM, where I will also attempt to answer any questions on that report that are tabled as per other questions for such an event. I do not however have the time to continually update a web page every time I receive or write a cheque just so you can see it! If you don't like it, find out how to call an EGM, get rid of me and find someone else to do the job. The same goes for Ultimatum. Get someone to write/produce/print/distribute it and we can all enjoy it. If we move to individual membership and pay a bit more (oh god no not that) maybe we can pay someone to do this work, because believe it or not producing a magazine is work! Ian Stebbing BUF Treasurer From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 24 00:22:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1O0GWc29000 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:16:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1O0GCh28993 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:16:12 GMT Received: from web3705.mail.yahoo.com (web3705.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1O0GBY02375 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:16:11 GMT Message-ID: <20010224001610.15147.qmail@web3705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.234.4.1] by web3705.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:16:10 GMT Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:16:10 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Joe=20Graves?= Subject: The whole lack of student funding and Tour stuff To: BRITDISC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have been thinking about the issues raised over the whole student costs thing. It 'seems' well agreed that students, only the whole, do not have the money to travel the length and breadth of the country. Also due to us actually being 'students' and the Tour dates being during the exam times, it makes it very difficult for even the 'Serious' teams to put in a serious bid to make the Nationals. Also taking what Ben said in his previous mail, would it be a sensible suggestion to give an automatic place to the winners of the Students outdoors? People may not agree, and I understand why, but I thought that it might be worth suggesting at least. And maybe something to consider at the next AGM. Please do not clog up Britdisc with your opinions too much, as it may be better to send ideas to me (or Ben), and I will be happy to paraphrase what peoples thoughts are. As I said there are lots of problems with this, but if we are to change the Tour set-up and thus the qualifying for the nationals, then could this be considered. If we want to avoid being mad at the powers-that-be, we need to discuss and communicate with them. Joe AKA Sox, Northern Lights (who will never get anywhere near the top Uni teams, and so I am not trying to promote our own cause) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 24 01:57:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1O1sVO17939 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1O1sUh17933 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:30 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1O1sTF23771 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:29 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14WTuh-0005eB-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:24 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:17:45 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: How to pay for/budget a tournament? {was....} References: <10102231422.AA07631@damson.open.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <10102231422.AA07631@damson.open.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Peter Connor wrote: >What are the possibilities for tour events (and others) following >what seems to be the European practice of having a team fee for >entering tournaments combined with an additional personal fee for >each player. I'll start with my "credentials": * player - at least 4 European/International tournaments a year for the last 6 years; * TD - at least 4 UK events each year for at least the last 4 years; * administration - u8c member 1997-2000 * a tendency to be over-cautious/pessimistic, hoping to not overlook any potential pitfalls in a plan but there's a good chance I've missed something important... Any ideas on a vague strategy for which part of the running costs you'd hope each part of the fee would cover? It seems to me that most of the player fees in European tournaments covers "extras" that are directly related to expected numbers of players. Many of these per person "extras" aren't (yet) a part of the UK tournament. Obviously the maths of "team fee = total costs/no of teams" is dead simple, and tends to be used in the UK. and what are "total costs"? from personal experience: BUF tournament tax; admin costs; fields; toilets; showers; trophies; discs; party (venue, DJ, etc); first aid cover; massage; on-site food. things that you see most often incorporated into a player fee: individual gifts (discs/shirts/waterbottles...) accommodation the priority is subject to debate (on-site food or party or first aid cover?) depending on who you ask, but some of the little luxuries (like trophies and discs) are a lot easier to arrange than some the essentials (like first aid cover) However, not many of the above costs Here's a good place to stop, unless you'd like to track the rambling maths of an experienced TD... ... if you're still with me: Assume the equation above works out to a cost of £70.00 per team. split this £70.00 to being a "team fee" plus "X player fees" for an "average" sized team. What's X? 10 would be reasonable? and convenient! That could give us a £20.00 "team fee" and £5.00 "player fee" so, * ironman team would pay 20.00 + (7 * 5.00) = £55.00 [£7.86 each] * average sized team of 10 would pay 20.00 + (10 * 5.00) = £70.00 [£7.00 each] * wholesale subs team would pay 20.00 + (14 * 5.00) = £90.00 [£6.43 each] That means the bigger teams are actually paying less per capita ??? (Sudden thought - could student teams get their universities to cover the team entry fee part? If so, I'd be more inclined to argue louder for adopting this fee strategy) Also, as Kev Lowe mentioned, how many teams know how many players they will be bringing to a tournament at the time at which you need to pay your entry fee? OK, so you pay a minimum fee (eg team + 8 players). But then there's all the hassle of collecting the extra money for the extra players. And what do you do about the player that's only around for one day, or happens to be otherwise occupied but local, so swings by for one game... I'm not trying to squash the idea, just throwing in a little more thinking... from the angle of a TD that intends not to make a loss, but not to fleece people stupid... so I've probably missed something... I haven't missed: * that two teams totalling 20 players still pay a total of £140.00, whether it's teams of 7 and 13, or two teams of 10. * or that if all teams bring more than the average 10 players, the TD is on to a winner, * the counter-argument: if the total players is less than the budgeted average, the tournament is likely to make a loss, and put the TD off ever doing another! Maybe my starting theory is incorrect - trying to re-assign £70.00 to an "average" size team? and what is the real value of X? Until someone (other than the already hassled TD!) does some real record keeping on attendance at tournaments (believe me, rosters don't do this!) we can only guess! Hope it helps, Wayne Retter ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 24 01:58:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1O1sUb17934 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:30 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1O1sTh17927 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:29 GMT Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1O1sSY08404 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:28 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14WTuh-0005eD-0K for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:54:24 +0000 Message-ID: <1kh$BXAuOxl6Ewtm@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 01:51:42 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Wayne Retter Reply-To: Wayne Retter Subject: Insurance References: <014f01c09dd0$6bb5aa40$4238893e@ben> In-Reply-To: <014f01c09dd0$6bb5aa40$4238893e@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk for Ben, as head paperwork honcho, I guess? > 3rd party insurance Can you explain the insurance thing? as I understand it: BUF approved tournaments are insured for any potential claims by 3rd parties that get (accidentally) injured whilst in attendance ? (e.g. the random spectator that gets their nose broken by a stray huck? or run / laid out into by the receiver concentrating on the disc?) There's no injury insurance for tournament participants - we rely on the NHS and/or any personal medical cover to deal with that It all relies on the 3rd party actually making a claim, not a common occurrence in the UK - I'm assuming that non-accidental injury (never thought of hucking through the irritating locals that insist on walking across your pitch despite polite requests not to? honestly?) would more likely end up in the hands of the police as some form of assault... It's also my understanding that the whole insurance concept would be revisited if/when the Association occurs - to incorporate a level of personal injury cover for all members. Questions: Is there cover for property? like discs (or, remembering Eastbourne, players) through windows (buildings or cars), and suchlike? What makes a tournament BUF approved? Does a tournament participant, not involved in the game that the incident occurred in, count as a third party and get the same sort of cover? Does it cover the circumstances of a third party being injured by players "just throwing around"? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter mobile: 07970-903420 w.retter@bigfoot.com office: 01737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 24 21:37:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1OLaK325786 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:36:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1OLaJh25780 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:36:19 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f99.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.99]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1OLaIF07699 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:36:18 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:36:07 -0800 Received: from 208.249.92.138 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:36:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.249.92.138] Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com From: "Helen Myers" To: deirdre.mahon@twobirds.com, jonathan.palmer@ic.ac.uk, ruth11@totalise.co.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:36:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2001 21:36:07.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[CBE8D7F0:01C09EA9] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And reduce incentives to increase your squad size and participation ... mmmmmmm ... From: Deirdre Mahon To: "'Jonathan Palmer'" , Ruth Taylor , BritDisc Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:58:38 -0000 If cost is the real issue, then what about charging non-student teams a usual fixed fee and charging student teams a reduced fee per person; thus ensuring the events are not prohibitively expensive for up and coming talent regardless of squad numbers. Deirdre -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Palmer [mailto:jonathan.palmer@ic.ac.uk] Sent: 22 February 2001 13:30 To: Ruth Taylor; BritDisc Subject: Re: Tour Dates > I don't believe that the hike in cost will put off students from playing > Ultimate, there are plenty of tournaments during term time especially for > students that are a lot cheaper. Term time or not is not really the issue, and which term time outdoor tournaments are you talking about, Student Outdoors + ?? Plus I'm sure that increasing the cost of Tour events will only make it easier for other TD's to increase the cost of their "cheaper" tournaments > As I understand it, the Tour is an elite set of tournaments for those teams > SERIOUS about playing Ultimate. Most of these teams have squads of at least > 12-15 players. If your student team can only manage 8 or 9 players for these > events, then I would say that you're not that serious. One of the biggest reasons that these students teams can only manage 8-9 players is not that they aren't serious but that it was already very too expensive, especially when you add in travel. This increase in cost will only amplify this problem. > If individuals amongst your student team ARE serious about playing quality > Ultimate, then they should find themselves a larger serious team for the > summer and join them for the Tour. All very well in principle but much harder to do in practice, surely we should be encouraging new student players to start new teams, enter tour events and learn to play at a higher level. The growth ultimate numbers is going to come mostly from the student base I hope that this can be encouraged, student discounts sound like an excellent idea. Cheers Jon Palmer (DiscDoctors) >===== Original Message From "Mark Lean" ===== >Hi, > >Just a quick word from the students amongst us but I could not >help notice the £150 per tour event. Bearing in mind that student >teams often struggle during the summer to get more than 8 or 9 >players it would make it very expensive for us. > >Could there be some sort of 'Student Discount' that could be made >up by the bigger teams paying more. Student Teams are important >for the growth of the sport, don't put them off now! > >Mark >(Phat'Eds) ----------------------- Flowers2send - your guarantee to success on Valentines Day!!! 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Details of our offices are available from http://www.twobirds.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 24 21:38:00 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1OLbdN25891 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:37:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1OLbch25885 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:37:38 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f222.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.222]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1OLbbY07564 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:37:37 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:37:30 -0800 Received: from 208.249.92.138 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:37:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.249.92.138] Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com From: "Helen Myers" To: dak12@cam.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tour Dates etc. Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:37:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2001 21:37:30.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD748F30:01C09EA9] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well said Dora ... keep up the good work ... From: "Dora Kemp" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour Dates etc. Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:20:04 +0000 To everyone out there...take note. People seem perfectly willing to complain about Tour issues on email (such as the higher fees this year) where it is easy. But did anyone show up at the AGM where these issues were discussed extensively. No - despite all the prior announcements about the meeting and active persuasion at the Nationals themselves. With 16 teams at the Nationals only two were represented outside the BUF committees and that included the hosting team! If people want to have a say in British Ultimate and make their say count then they have to make the effort and COME TO THE AGM! There are a few hard-working people out there desperately trying to run this show but without much encouragement or thanks from the rest of the community. Dora Kemp Strange Blue _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Feb 24 21:38:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1OLY7825531 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:34:07 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1OLY6h25524 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:34:06 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.25]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1OLY0Y07429 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:34:00 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:33:53 -0800 Received: from 208.249.92.138 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 21:33:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.249.92.138] Reply-To: helenmyers@bigfoot.com From: "Helen Myers" To: gareth_goo@hotmail.com, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:33:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2001 21:33:53.0710 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C384CE0:01C09EA9] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk In fact, students often have a higher disposable income than those who have recently graduated (say in the last two or three years). Living off loans and grants, rather than actually having to pay them back ... Just thought I'd add a little fuel to the fire ... ha ha !! Have fun ... Helen x From: "Gareth Goo" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour Dates Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 13:56:12 I think the suggestion about a lowered price for Student teams sounds perfectly reasonable. I would also say that it is fairly offensive to imply that student teams are not as "serious" about playing as the "adult" teams just because they are asking for a lower entry fee. I would hazard a guess that it's because of lack of funds that many student teams do not play in the tour, also when I was as student the Tour takes place over the Final exams period and the fact that so many student players turn up is a testimony to their commitment. Should you discount an enitre team just because they struggle to get 8/9 members because the rest have exams? or should we be encouraging that kind of commitment and enthusiasm for OUR sport rather than telling them to go back to the playground? There are some brilliant student players around, why the hell should they have to go and play for an other team rather than their own just because they couldn't afford to enter? Seems a bit of dumb argument to me. Good suggeastion Mark (Phat Ed's)....maybe a bit of support is in order from the rest of us. Gareth - Hammerge ex. Fish _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Feb 25 23:19:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1PNCJb12546 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:12:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1PNCGh12538 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:12:16 GMT Received: from mta3-svc.virgin.net (mta3-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.43]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1PNCFF26435 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:12:15 GMT Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.37.36]) by mta3-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010225231214.UAVX4343.mta3-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:12:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c09f82$95628300$2425fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" To: "British Ultimate Federation" , "BRITDISC" References: <014f01c09dd0$6bb5aa40$4238893e@ben> Subject: Re: Message from the BUF Treasurer Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:27:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well said! Dont winge DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Fatboy Pissed off with the idiots of the world ( Any complaints PLEASE take them up personally and UP CLOSE) ----- Original Message ----- From: British Ultimate Federation To: BRITDISC Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 7:39 PM Subject: Message from the BUF Treasurer > Paul, > > The money from the tour goes towards the purchase of: > Cones > Water containers > Scoreboards > > and their transport to and from all the tour tournaments. > It also covers the administrative costs of printing and sending out the > relevant > documentation relating to the tour. > Whats left over plus the other tournament taxes covers any other expenses > the > BUF runs up like all the phone calls sorting out stuff like European or > Worlds > participation both for clubs and the national teams, BUF membership of the > World Federation to allow our teams to participate in those events, 3rd > party > insurance etc. We also had to front the money for many of the participating > National teams last year, and covered some of the medical expenses. there > was > also a small amout used to help fund the junior team to participate in World > Nations last year. > > There will be a financial report produced for the AGM, where I will also > attempt > to answer any questions on that report that are tabled as per other > questions > for such an event. I do not however have the time to continually update a > web > page every time I receive or write a cheque just so you can see it! > > If you don't like it, find out how to call an EGM, get rid of me and find > someone else to do the job. The same goes for Ultimatum. Get someone to > write/produce/print/distribute it and we can all enjoy it. If we move to > individual membership and pay a bit more (oh god no not that) maybe we can > pay > someone to do this work, because believe it or not producing a magazine is > work! > > Ian Stebbing > BUF Treasurer > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 10:40:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QAZPr07534 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:35:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QAZLh07514 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:35:21 GMT Received: from mail.dmt.co.uk (mail.dmt.co.uk [193.130.13.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1QAZIY01666 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:35:19 GMT Received: From DMTNT.DMT.CO.UK (192.168.10.2[192.168.10.2 port:4011]) by mail.dmt.co.uk Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <3515@mail.dmt.co.uk> for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:32:45 AM +0000 smtpmailfrom Received: by dmtnt.dmtdomain with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:50:47 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Meaney To: "'BRITDISC' (E-mail)" Subject: FW: Message from the BUF Treasurer Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:50:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > > > The money from the tour goes towards the purchase of: > > <>> > thank you Ian. > > > > There will be a financial report produced for the AGM, where > > I will also > > attempt > > to answer any questions on that report that are tabled as per other > > questions > > for such an event. I do not however have the time to > > continually update a > > web > > page every time I receive or write a cheque just so you can see it! > > Oh, Ian, not you too. All I am asking for is a statmente of account for last years budget. The AGM was in september. It is now march(ish). Just wanted to know if and when and where last years accounts will be made available. It is a perfectly reasonable request for any poaying member of the BUF to request to see a copy of the accounts you know. > > If you don't like it, find out how to call an EGM, get rid of > > me and find > > someone else to do the job. The same goes for Ultimatum. > > Get someone to > > write/produce/print/distribute it and we can all enjoy it. > > If we move to > > individual membership and pay a bit more (oh god no not that) > > maybe we can > > pay > > someone to do this work, because believe it or not producing > > a magazine is > > work! > thank you Ian. that response has typified the attitude of the BUF that I have been complaining about. I have not questioned your ability in these matters. Far from it. I have SIMPLY asked to see the accounts for last year. It is not a personal insult and I have no intention of doing it myself as that is not a response to the question of when and where the accounts will be made public. why is this such a problem? Paul > > > > Ian Stebbing > > BUF Treasurer > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 11:17:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QBFH521764 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:15:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QBFEh21755 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:15:14 GMT Received: from web12606.mail.yahoo.com (web12606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.229]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1QBFDY11743 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:15:13 GMT Message-ID: <20010226111508.23456.qmail@web12606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.154.28.16] by web12606.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 03:15:08 PST Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 03:15:08 -0800 (PST) From: john doe To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > why is this such a problem? > > Paul Because there are two ways of criticising and asking things, Paul. A constructive way and a destructive way. the BUF are volunteers. They give up their free time for this. The same goes for TDs. I expect they all welcome criticism, given in the right way. your mails are tedious, boring and contradictory. you raise concerns that lots of the Ultimate community probably support, but the aggressive tone you use loses you support and respect. you keep using the fact that you know what it's like to organise a tournament. great, you organised an indoor tournament, for beginners, TEN years ago. Big deal. That's a world apart from the tournament demands of today. You've stated yourself that it beginners don't place such importance on quality facilities. Come on Paul, the BUF do a great job - they don't get it perfect, but then, who cares. You are currently alienating yourself by your aggressive tones, and as long as that continues, I expect you will not be listened to. Frisbee Boy. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 12:44:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QCesN00255 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:40:54 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QCeoh00212 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:40:50 GMT Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QCedY29200 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:40:44 GMT Message-Id: <200102261240.f1QCedY29200@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: britdisc Subject: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:40:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1QCeoh00218 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Two teams from Grantham College competed with open and student teams this weekend in Nottingham. My junior team were energised by their first tournament, for which they were hosts in January and were excited to enter more tournaments. Nottingham offered an ideal opportunity close to home. A great time was had by all my students. During the closing ceremony though, I could not find a Hole big enough to hide in. I find it difficult to comprehend how the organisers saw fit to award Red Eye Bongs from Amsterdam as prizes. This is the first time I have encountered the legitimisation of drug taking in Ultimate. To make it worse the awards ceremony was in full view of parents and sponsors of my team and was videoed by Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers. A Spliff holder was also given as a gift to my junior team during an post game huddle. Some of us are putting big efforts in getting growth, TV coverage, publicity, and legitimacy for our sport. We shall never get any of this as long as this sort of thing happens. Whether you are pro or anti Cannabis use, I am sure you will agree with me that such promotion of an ILLEGAL act so blatantly (and especially when targeted at Juniors) is very harmful for our sport. I charge the organisers of this weekend's tournament in nottingham with BRINGING THE GAME INTO DISREPUTE, and I would like YOU the ultimate community to register your displeasure by replying to britdisc. As an aside. I would like to know what the video makers will be doing about releasing video of the awards ceremony (I think the BUF would also like to know). If the awards ceremony is to be featured on the video I'll HAVE MY £20 BACK Action please BUF. Stig Red 14 Masters2000 14 GB Junior Coach Coach to Horizontally Challenged and Aussie Kiss From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 13:13:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QDCFm15218 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:12:15 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QDC4h15155 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:12:04 GMT Received: from server2041.virtualave.net (qmailr@server2041.virtualave.net [63.251.5.41]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1QDC3Y05550 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:12:03 GMT Received: (qmail 17549 invoked by uid 2799555); 26 Feb 2001 13:12:01 -0000 Date: 26 Feb 2001 13:12:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010226131201.17548.qmail@server2041.virtualave.net> To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: mr.snow@mrmen.vg (Mr. Snow) Subject: Re: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Absolutely disgraceful.....especially since they didn't give out anything to put in the bongs. Now that really would be worth a 150 quid entry fee...... Jimmer Mr Men Monks Two teams from Grantham College competed with open and student teams this weekend in Nottingham. My junior team were energised by their first tournament, for which they were hosts in January and were excited to enter more tournaments. Nottingham offered an ideal opportunity close to home. A great time was had by all my students. During the closing ceremony though, I could not find a Hole big enough to hide in. I find it difficult to comprehend how the organisers saw fit to award Red Eye Bongs from Amsterdam as prizes. This is the first time I have encountered the legitimisation of drug taking in Ultimate. To make it worse the awards ceremony was in full view of parents and sponsors of my team and was videoed by Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers. A Spliff holder was also given as a gift to my junior team during an post game huddle. Some of us are putting big efforts in getting growth, TV coverage, publicity, and legitimacy for our sport. We shall never get any of this as long as this sort of thing happens. Whether you are pro or anti Cannabis use, I am sure you will agree with me that such promotion of an ILLEGAL act so blatantly (and especially when targeted at Juniors) is very harmful for our sport. I charge the organisers of this weekend's tournament in nottingham with BRINGING THE GAME INTO DISREPUTE, and I would like YOU the ultimate community to register your displeasure by replying to britdisc. As an aside. I would like to know what the video makers will be doing about releasing video of the awards ceremony (I think the BUF would also like to know). If the awards ceremony is to be featured on the video I'll HAVE MY £20 BACK Action please BUF. Stig Red 14 Masters2000 14 GB Junior Coach Coach to Horizontally Challenged and Aussie Kiss From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 14:01:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QDvZp07640 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:35 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QDvXh07626 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:33 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QDvWY13840 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:32 GMT Received: from thecoach ([195.146.169.250]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA79806 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:58:33 GMT (envelope-from scott@ultimateweb.co.uk) Reply-To: From: "Ian Scotland" To: "'britdisc'" Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:02:15 -0000 Message-ID: <102C64E43C05D51184810080AD7451A355F3@ns2.webleicester.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <102C64E43C05D51184810080AD7451A35461@ns2.webleicester.co.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Bongs as prizes!? I find this hard to believe, but unfortunately I know Paul (Stig) wouldn't lie about something this serious. Can the BUF please take some action to make an example of this kind of unacceptable behaviour! I know people think this is just a bit of fun, but when you have juniors and spectators much younger than you witnessing this kind of thing it becomes extremely embarrassing for the sport. Unless the BUF acts there will always be an element that thinks this is something to joke about (Jimmer: there are probably juniors and their parents who read this mailing list!). Scott Who cares what team I play for! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk > [mailto:owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Paul Unwin > (GC_11_PO) > Sent: 26 February 2001 12:40 > To: britdisc > Subject: Bringing the Game into Disrepute > > > Two teams from Grantham College competed with open and > student teams this > weekend in Nottingham. My junior team were energised by their first > tournament, for which they were hosts in January and were > excited to enter > more tournaments. Nottingham offered an ideal opportunity > close to home. > > A great time was had by all my students. > > During the closing ceremony though, I could not find a Hole > big enough to > hide in. > > I find it difficult to comprehend how the organisers saw fit > to award Red > Eye Bongs from Amsterdam as prizes. > > This is the first time I have encountered the legitimisation > of drug taking > in Ultimate. > > To make it worse the awards ceremony was in full view of parents and > sponsors of my team and was videoed by Block Stack and Two > Smoking Hammers. > A Spliff holder was also given as a gift to my junior team > during an post > game huddle. > > Some of us are putting big efforts in getting growth, TV coverage, > publicity, and legitimacy for our sport. We shall never get > any of this as > long as this sort of thing happens. > > Whether you are pro or anti Cannabis use, I am sure you will > agree with me > that such promotion of an ILLEGAL act so blatantly (and > especially when > targeted at Juniors) is very harmful for our sport. > > I charge the organisers of this weekend's tournament in > nottingham with > BRINGING THE GAME INTO DISREPUTE, and I would like YOU the ultimate > community to register your displeasure by replying to britdisc. > > As an aside. I would like to know what the video makers will > be doing about > releasing video of the awards ceremony (I think the BUF would > also like to > know). If the awards ceremony is to be featured on the video > I'll HAVE MY > £20 BACK > > > Action please BUF. > > Stig > Red 14 > Masters2000 14 > GB Junior Coach > Coach to Horizontally Challenged and Aussie Kiss > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 14:01:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QDvLn07537 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:21 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QDvIh07514 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:18 GMT Received: from mercury.uwe.ac.uk (mercury.uwe.ac.uk [164.11.132.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QDvCY13770 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:13 GMT Received: from stu-1157139a.uwe.ac.uk ([164.11.138.219]) by mercury.uwe.ac.uk (2.0.4/SMS 2.0.4-devel) with SMTP id NAA21185 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:57:00 GMT From: "Frisbee, Frisbee" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:59:22 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (47-uwe) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi all, is there any more space at any of the regionals? Cheers, Stuart. ---------------------------------------- Frisbee, Frisbee Email: Frisbee@uwe.ac.uk "University of the West of England" From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 14:04:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QE3dJ10567 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:03:39 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QE3ah10534 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:03:37 GMT Received: from web3402.mail.yahoo.com (web3402.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.56]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1QE3ZF26518 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:03:35 GMT Message-ID: <20010226140332.21343.qmail@web3402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.117.23.129] by web3402.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:03:32 GMT Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:03:32 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?JOE=20PIETRZAK?= Subject: Re: Bringing the Game into Disrepute To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <20010226131201.17548.qmail@server2041.virtualave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk My only comment on this is that the people who would object to such behaviour probably wouldn't be too keen on a team name that is slang for oral sex. Joe. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 15:27:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QFNrK18710 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:23:53 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QFNqh18700 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:23:52 GMT Received: from chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (th-gt149-065.pool.dircon.co.uk [195.157.34.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QFNkF05019 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:23:46 GMT Received: from ralf ([10.226.114.163]) by chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f1QFFSY03717 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:15:28 GMT From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: "Britdisc" Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:19:24 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010226140332.21343.qmail@web3402.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > My only comment on this is that the people who would > object to such behaviour probably wouldn't be too keen > on a team name that is slang for oral sex. Joe. There is, however, a big difference between a team naming themselves, and the actions of a TD. Whilst there were quite a few teams with questionable names this weekend (Cupids, Random Fling, Mange), these can be explained away to parents as actions of a minority, and more importantly a minority that doesn't represent mainstream Ultimate. It's true that a small minority of players indulge in a joint or two at tournaments, and most of us will acknowledge that. However as soon as that ceases to be a sub-culture, it's going to have a very detrimental effect on how Ultimate is perceived. Openly endorsing and associating illegal behaviour with Ultimate is only going to cause the sport to be even further marginalised. It's a shame that this is what this debate is focusing on, but I guess this underlines the point being made - an excellent tournament is being completely overshadowed by the drugs issue. Is this what we want *all* discussion about Ultimate to focus on? For the record, the tournament this weekend was excellent - good facilities, good games and good spirit. I know that Whiplash and all the teams we talked to and played with this weekend enjoyed themselves immensely. Congratulations to the organisers for hosting their first tournament - I hope you'll be able to host some more, as it really is an excellent indoor venue. Ralf (Whiplash) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 16:07:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QG5U509464 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:05:30 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QG5Nh09374 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:05:23 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f261.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.136]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QG5LF24727 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:05:22 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:05:12 -0800 Received: from 165.76.196.213 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:05:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.76.196.213] From: "ed shardlow" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:05:12 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2001 16:05:12.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[E67218B0:01C0A00D] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >It's true that a small minority of players indulge in a joint or two at >tournaments, and most of us will acknowledge that. However as soon as that >ceases to be a sub-culture, it's going to have a very detrimental effect on >how Ultimate is perceived. Openly endorsing and associating illegal >behaviour with Ultimate is only going to cause the sport to be even further >marginalised. > >It's a shame that this is what this debate is focusing on, but I guess this >underlines the point being made - an excellent tournament is being >completely overshadowed by the drugs issue. Is this what we want *all* >discussion about Ultimate to focus on? the fact is, we all know there is a certain degree of substance abuse involved with our sport and opinions will undoubtably be divided as to how much this is an essential aspect of the ultimate community and as to how serious a problem it is. some may well say it is in the nature of the sport, but even those who have no qualms about it (and even play under the influence) will admit that there's far more to the sport than that, if only the ignorant, mainstream-sport-supporting public would realise it. but then, while the sport is minority and alternative, why not combine it with more illicit pleasures? ultimate is unique in many ways, and one is its laid back, beach-chuckabout, showboating style. i'd be interested in whether there were similar obstacles to beach volleyball being embraced by the mainstream. ultimately, drug use was a minor factor when snowboarding was integrated into the olympics, but the sport spoke for itself. ed japan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 16:09:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QG92Z11142 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:09:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QG8xh11114 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:08:59 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f74.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.74]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QG8lF26452 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:08:47 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:08:29 -0800 Received: from 165.76.196.213 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:08:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.76.196.213] From: "ed shardlow" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:08:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2001 16:08:29.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[5BB92320:01C0A00E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk is it just me, or is there some problem with britdisc whereby some messages are being sent out twice? ed _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 16:26:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QGOhL17738 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:43 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QGOgh17727 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:42 GMT Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QGObY19174 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:41 GMT Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14XQRh-00010O-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:21 +0000 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14XQRy-0000BV-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:38 +0000 Received: from peter (dialup-10-5.net.ic.ac.uk [155.198.8.149]) by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CGZR6LHM; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:20 -0000 Message-ID: <010301c0a00f$e2e0a2a0$9408c69b@peter> From: "Jonathan Palmer" To: "BritDisc" Subject: Tour Structure Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:16:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben asked for suggestions on the tour structure so here goes. If indeed the tour does need to be split (which would be a shame but I'm in no real position to comment on so I won't) then I think the biggest problem is the combing of the tour and qualification for Nationals. The simple solution is to separate them (see below) Split Tour Structures 1. As previously discussed a first tour 32+ and then a split tour with top 16 and bottom 16+ with promotion and relegation of say 4 teams. OR 2. A ranking system (don't know if it's been suggested before) The system I imagine would be something like the Tennis world rankings. a) Tour 1 would need to be a large 32+ tournament with points awarded as before (250 for win etc.) b) Then there would be a further 3 (or more) Grand slam tournaments, 16 teams with 250 points for a win etc. c) Alongside this would run a number (hopefully greater) of "B" tour events with say 120 points for a win (roughly 13th place in a slam event allowing teams to break into the top 16) these events would attract more local teams and hopefully student teams. d) The top 16 teams on points at get invited to the next Slam tournament e) After the season is over each teams best 4 results are used for the final tour rankings. There are some obvious wrinkles that would need to be worked out but I'll only think about it if people think it is worth pursuing. Nationals Structure Separate Nationals from the tour. Have 4 regional qualifiers for Nationals (8-16 teams) with 4 qualification spots. The biggest criticisms of a split tour are that split works badly as a qualification for nationals because of the slight randomness around 16th and the lower teams don't get to see the top teams play. By separating Nationals and the tour you fix the first and by having National qualifiers you allow weaker teams to watch the top teams in their region. Plus it encourages Geo teams especially in the weaker regions. How could it possibly go wrong?!?! Cheers for reading, Jon From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 16:27:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QGOXF17684 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QGOWh17672 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:32 GMT Received: from judy.ic.ac.uk (judy.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.28]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QGOUF04288 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:31 GMT Received: from juliet.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.5.4]) by judy.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14XQRg-00010K-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:20 +0000 Received: from icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.3.6]) by juliet.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14XQRx-0000BS-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:37 +0000 Received: from peter (dialup-10-5.net.ic.ac.uk [155.198.8.149]) by icex6.cc.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id CGZR6LHK; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 16:24:19 -0000 Message-ID: <010101c0a00f$e2173820$9408c69b@peter> From: "Jonathan Palmer" To: "BritDisc" References: <011101c09ce0$21d098e0$9e08c69b@peter> <002501c09d26$bbf3a980$510c883e@ben> Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:43:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben, > One of the options with Chris Hughes' plan for dividing the Tour (which we > shelved due to lack of attendees at the AGM) is to vary the prices across > the divisions. This would mean that the generally non-student top division > would pay more for a 'superior experience' and the lower divisions > (*generally* where *most* of the student teams fit) would get the usual > bargain events we're all used to. Please spare me the "how well the > University of Central Studentshire did" rant - yes there are some great > student outdoor teams around but they will *never* threaten the top eight > teams just as there are no uni soccer teams in the premiership (bad analogy > but you get the point) If you are talking about individual uni teams then I agree with *never*, but if you look at teams that are student teams then I disagree. Look at teams like DSM, the SE student All stars more than held their own against Hammerage a few weeks ago etc. Surely as ultimate grows and more and more people learn to play at a junior level more and more students will be able to cut it at the top level. The idea of following the American system and splitting of the student players I think is a bad one. To force the top players into a 3/4 year probationary system before being allowed to play (dare is say it) Serious ultimate would be very bad for British ultimate. The top student players need the experience of the tour/European-World Clubs/GB to improve their game. We need a system were they can do that whilst continuing to support their student teams. Cheers Jon From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 18:40:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QIaKW13693 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:36:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QIaJh13676 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:36:19 GMT Received: from web12101.mail.yahoo.com (web12101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.21]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1QIaDF02387 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:36:18 GMT Message-ID: <20010226183611.94560.qmail@web12101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.61.63.109] by web12101.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:36:11 PST Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:36:11 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Keen Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since the call was for people to register their objection to any official association btw drugs and ultimate (and giving away drug-related prizes counts as 'official' surely) then here I am registering mine. I remain agnostic about unofficial substance abuse :) Adam Keen Under Cover Lovers __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 20:58:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QKoSO25455 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:50:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QKoQh25444 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:50:26 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QKoLF27295 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:50:21 GMT Received: from modem-17.echuir.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.167.145] helo=v2n6k5) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14XUM0-0000XC-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:34:45 +0000 Message-ID: <006f01c0a035$cf5774e0$91a7883e@v2n6k5> From: "Chris White" To: "britdisc" References: <200102261240.f1QCedY29200@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:47:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK, didn't think I'd ever get into this sort of thing so quickly into setting up a team. (Still unregistered, sorry Ben and Kevin!) I run a school based team. We're trying to get it set up outside the school, but as yet, we're still a cosy school group. Had my team been at that event then it would have been the last event they (and the school) would have ever been to. (And that's not due to any feelings on my behalf) If you think I'm exaggerating then let me explain why. Any school based event has to have at least 2 teachers with it. The other would probably have felt a duty to report it, even if I didn't. There is also the fact the kids would have talked about it and it would be round the school in a matter of minutes. Any school trip (apart from the masses of paperwork) needs to have permission from both the headteacher and the governors. The head would have been bound to hear. I would have been called up to explain what happened. The governors would have been informed, and I would have probably faced some sort of disciplinary as a minimum, possibly more, especially if it was ever reported in a newspaper. 'Teacher takes students to drugs endorsing sports event' or something like that. It could ultimately cost me my job as a teacher, permanently. I know that sounds drastic, but that is how things work in teaching. It would have definitely cost me my probationary year at the school, I would probably have to look for a job at another school and go through my probationary year again, assuming a school would take someone who had failed a probationary year (far whatever reason). The head and the governors would then never endorse a team going to another tournament, and the training sessions would come to an end as well. (Sorry I realise that's a bit long) I'm sure that the people involved in the tournie didn't mean any harm by, though I don't think it's the sort of things I'd want, but at the end of the day everyone really needs to think about the whole game, the whole time. One of the biggest problems I've encountered (especially with starting the club up at school) is that for many people perception is reality. If they perceive that it is a drugs related sport then they will believe it really is (and I don't know why people feel that any sport should have drugs image due purely to the sport that it is). Again, such a thing can be deadly (job wise) to someone in the teaching profession. Just one 'headline', true or otherwise can ruin a career. Irrespective of whether or not I, or any of the students take drugs, I am now in the unenviable position where I will have to think twice about taking any of them to a tournament. As much as I have enjoyed ultimate whenever I've played it, it's not worth a job I've invested so much of my own time and money in. Sorry that this has been such a long note, and rather heavy at times. I dare say that some of you won't believe me (for whatever reasons you have), I can only assure you that what I have said is either reality or a real fear of what could easily happen. Chris "yes I'm Vanessa's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" White From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 22:00:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QLtlc15400 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:55:47 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QLtjh15382 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:55:45 GMT Received: from viper.usafa.af.mil (viper.usafa.af.mil [204.34.211.81]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QLthF24440 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:55:43 GMT Received: from viper.usafa.af.mil (root@localhost) by viper.usafa.af.mil with ESMTP id OAA20916 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:50:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from hermes.usafa.af.mil (hermes.usafa.af.mil [128.236.5.5]) by viper.usafa.af.mil with ESMTP id OAA20895 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:50:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from hermes.usafa.af.mil (hermes.usafa.af.mil [128.236.5.5]) by hermes.usafa.af.mil (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/fast-hermes) with SMTP id OAA12488 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:57:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from fsxqpz01.usafa.af.mil ([128.236.5.60]) by hermes.usafa.af.mil (NAVGW 2.2 bld 75) with SMTP id M2001022614574802523 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:57:48 -0700 Received: by exchange.usafa.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2607.0) id ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:55:31 -0700 Message-ID: <15A5B6227F19D311856E0090274645350263194B@fsxqpz05.usafa.af.mil> From: Schuricht Paul Dr USAFA/DFAN To: BritDisc Subject: FW: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:55:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2607.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Oops this reply was meant to go to Britdisc, not just Jonathan. -----Original Message----- From: Schuricht Paul Dr USAFA/DFAN Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:02 AM To: 'Jonathan Palmer' Subject: RE: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Under the american system (college tournaments in the spring, open tourneys in the fall) there is no 3/4 year probation. Just because you played in the college division in the spring does not prevent you playing in the open divison in the fall. All you need is a team to play for, if you are serious about your ultimate then that you should be able to sort that out. If you can keep you college team together for the fall series then that's good, though some times there are the usual problems with holidays. Otherwise you could start practicing with a local team and play for them in the fall - A great way for students players to gain more experience. Or you could form a team for the fall with the other students from local colleges who want to play in the open division. Sonic -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Palmer [mailto:jonathan.palmer@ic.ac.uk] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 8:44 AM To: BritDisc Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Ben, > One of the options with Chris Hughes' plan for dividing the Tour (which we > shelved due to lack of attendees at the AGM) is to vary the prices across > the divisions. This would mean that the generally non-student top division > would pay more for a 'superior experience' and the lower divisions > (*generally* where *most* of the student teams fit) would get the usual > bargain events we're all used to. Please spare me the "how well the > University of Central Studentshire did" rant - yes there are some great > student outdoor teams around but they will *never* threaten the top eight > teams just as there are no uni soccer teams in the premiership (bad analogy > but you get the point) If you are talking about individual uni teams then I agree with *never*, but if you look at teams that are student teams then I disagree. Look at teams like DSM, the SE student All stars more than held their own against Hammerage a few weeks ago etc. Surely as ultimate grows and more and more people learn to play at a junior level more and more students will be able to cut it at the top level. The idea of following the American system and splitting of the student players I think is a bad one. To force the top players into a 3/4 year probationary system before being allowed to play (dare is say it) Serious ultimate would be very bad for British ultimate. The top student players need the experience of the tour/European-World Clubs/GB to improve their game. We need a system were they can do that whilst continuing to support their student teams. Cheers Jon From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 23:14:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QN92h07737 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:09:02 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QN91h07727 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:09:01 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QN8sF27475 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:08:59 GMT Received: from ntintel3 (ntintel3.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.6]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA90617 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:09:57 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200102262309.XAA90617@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:04:36 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1QN91h07730 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 03 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and times to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMEN'S STUDENT INDOORS Location: Aberystwyth - [Indoor Ultimate] The first women's student indoors, and hopefully not the last! 12 slots available, let's fill them up and enjoy it! http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/womens2001/ Tim Blair 69 Pentre Jane Morgan, Penglais, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, SY23 3TE Main Email: tim@mwncisee.co.uk Home Phone: 01970 615077 ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2001 (NB CHANGE OF DATE!) Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1 Location: Bristol - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 12 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 2 Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate] Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details Ian Cuddihy 1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com Home Phone: +3535652871 Mobile: +447957667837 ____________________________________________________________ 23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3 Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate] Details to be announced nearer the time Clifford Bottomley 11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com Home Phone: 0208-542-4966 Work Phone: 01932-861461 Mobile: 0777-5917169 Fax: 01932-576033 ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4 Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 23:17:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QNFcC10030 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:15:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QNFVh09999 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:15:31 GMT Received: from dump.peldi.net (IDENT:root@r-bo043-1-29.tin.it [213.45.32.29]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QNFEY06327 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:15:14 GMT Received: from ultilinks.com (swing.peldi.net [192.168.1.2]) by dump.peldi.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1QNHNP31028 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:17:24 +0100 Message-ID: <3A9AE37C.5BEE38E5@ultilinks.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:15:06 +0100 From: Peldi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: First Pasticciotto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey Beach Ultimate Lovers! You are going to Paganello and plan to travel around Italy for a bit? Or your team didn't make it to Rimini and you're itching for a beach-ultimate experience? Bar do Peixe (Lisbon), the Porron Open (Barcelona) or the Hawaii Hat are your favourite tournaments in the whole World? Well, if you've read this far... ...YOU'RE SO READY FOR PASTICCIOTTO. http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/pasticciotto/ The first tournament in the gorgeous south of Italy, Pasticciotto will be a three day relaxing beach-ultimate extravaganza, filled with fun, great food, local beauty of all kinds, good COED games and great Spirit. When? The week-end after Paganello: 20-21-22 of April 2001. If you're going to Paganello, you might also be interested in the "Survivor Series", a set of rendez-vous points in pubs and restaurants all over Italy during the week between tournaments. Where? In "Torre dell'Orso", a beautiful beach near Lecce, in Puglia, "the heel of the Italian boot". All the info you need is on the web site: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/pasticciotto/ The tournament fee is 150.000 lire (77.5 Euro, about 70 USD). It includes: -accomodation in 5-or-6-people apartments for 3 nights (with sheets and blankets) -big italian and continental breakfast for 3 days -lunch for 3 days (sandwitches) -1 huge dinner (4 courses + wine) -2 all-night long parties with live band (and dance lessons!) -Clean (cleanED by trucks), soft beaches (with an ambulance standing by) -a T-Shirt -the chance to go for a swim in April -the chance to help start a local team in the south of Italy -a surprise gift -a helluva good time And a lot more. Believe me, A LOT more. I won't tell you more because you wouldn't be able to sleep for the excitement. ;) How cheap is that? This is going to be sweet. Go to the site and check it out: http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/pasticciotto/ Make up your mind FAST and sign up before all sposts get taken: we can only host 120 people this year. Sign-up opened this morning and almost half the spots have already been reserved. Peldi and Will Tams-Wadman Organizers - 1st Pasticciotto PS.Did we mention "first game in the morning is at 1:05pm"? ;) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 23:23:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QNLsb12148 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:21:54 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QNLph12128 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:21:51 GMT Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QNLpF03748 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:21:51 GMT Received: from modem-113.carbon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.5.113] helo=ben) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14XWlQ-0001R5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:09:08 +0000 Message-ID: <005201c0a04b$ef9848e0$7105883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Roster Deadline Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:29:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Today (Tuesday 27th Feb) is the deadline for indoor rosters. Below is a list of teams who have submitted a roster plus the numbers of players they have listed. IF YOUR TEAM IS NOT ON THIS LIST or you have not added all your players then you need to do something about it today. BABOOM 8 BEARS 17 BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 8 BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 20 BLUE KINGS 10 BLUE ON BLUE 2 CHEVRON ACTION FLASH 13 FALLING SKIES 17 FAR FLUNG 36 FAT TED'S ULTIMATE CLUB 7 FEVER 10 FUSION ULTIMATE 9 HAMMERAGE 13 HEADRUSH 8 I'LL HAVE A D PLEASE BOB 13 JEDI CHILDREN 11 JESTERS 3 KAMAYA MAYA 12 MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 9 MOHAWKS 20 MR MEN 10 MWNCI SEE 10 NORTHERN LIGHTS 6 ODDJOB 8 PHAT 'EDS 16 PLAYTHINGS 9 POINT BLANK 8 RANDOM FLING 11 RO-SHAM-BO 22 SHOOTING STARS 39 SHRUB 8 SKUNKS 20 SLIPDISC 13 SNEEEKY'S 19 SPACE MONKEYS 6 STRANGE BLUE 32 THE GOONIES 6 TOTAL MUPPETS 5 TRIGGER HAPPY 15 URIEL 6 WHIPLASH 9 YO MAMA 9 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Feb 26 23:25:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1QNNTX12547 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:23:29 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QNNSh12539 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:23:28 GMT Received: from mta2-svc.virgin.net (mta2-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.42]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1QNNSY06777 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:23:28 GMT Received: from oemcomputer ([62.255.20.89]) by mta2-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010226232246.IMGL8990.mta2-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:22:46 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c0a04d$4f124fe0$2025fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" To: "BRITDISC" Cc: "Mathew Edwards" Subject: Re The Cost of Tour 1 and students Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:38:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0A04D.3D6DB5E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0A04D.3D6DB5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All Matt Edwards and I are organising Tour 1 in Bristol (do not send money = to me or contact me about this tournament PLEASE as Matt will be dealing = with the organisation as he has the time available). I personally am = involved because I am aware that Chris Hughes was struggling for venues = so I told him I would do it if I could charge a large amount of money to = make my profit margins very good. I am short of time and while most of = you guys were in nappies I was organising Tourneys and making a profit = from them. If you don't want people to make a profit out of Ultimate = players then YOU DO IT, BUT if not then don't whinge to me because I m = not interested - Try calling your mother if you want sympathy! Now I have been accused of being a profiteering bastard and I would just = like to say - yes what's your point. There will be a =A330 discount for all student teams at Tour 1 in = Bristol as well as camping available on site (not restricted to = students) at no additional fee and a cheap food option (pasta and such = like) available at the clubhouse for the evening meal where there will = also be a late bar (1pm hopefully) and party. Rumour has it that one or = two people may even get hot showers! I believe that the cost per team will be Student Teams =A3120 =20 Others =A3150 This is yet to be confirmed. Hope I haven't bored you L & K=20 Adam Fatboy Batchelor PS This discount does not apply to Mythago as they would not let us = enter their tournament. PPS That was humour? http://www.virgin.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0A04D.3D6DB5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Matt Edwards and I are organising Tour = 1 in Bristol=20 (do not send money to me or contact me about this tournament PLEASE as = Matt will=20 be dealing with the organisation as he has the time available). I = personally am=20 involved because I am aware that Chris Hughes was struggling for venues = so I=20 told him I would do it if I could charge a large amount of money to make = my=20 profit margins very good. I am short of time and while most of you guys = were in=20 nappies I was organising Tourneys and making a profit from them. If you = don't=20 want people to make a profit out of Ultimate players then YOU DO IT,=20 BUT if not then don't whinge to me because I m = not=20 interested - Try calling your mother if you want = sympathy!
 
Now I have been accused of being a = profiteering=20 bastard and I would just like to say - yes what's your = point.
 
There will be a =A330 discount for all = student teams=20 at Tour 1 in Bristol as well as camping available on site (not = restricted to=20 students) at no additional fee and a cheap food option (pasta and such = like)=20 available at the clubhouse for the evening meal where there will also be = a late=20 bar (1pm hopefully) and party. Rumour has it that one or two people may = even get=20 hot showers!
 
I believe that the cost per team will=20 be
Student Teams   =20 =A3120     
Others    =    =20         =A3150
 
This is yet to be = confirmed.
 
Hope I haven't bored you
 
L & K
Adam Fatboy Batchelor
 
PS This discount does not apply to = Mythago as they=20 would not let us enter their tournament.
PPS That was humour?
http://www.virgin.net/
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0A04D.3D6DB5E0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 00:22:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1R0Fax28023 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:15:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R0DDh27700 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:14:12 GMT Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R0DDY10618 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:13:13 GMT Received: from modem-166.carbon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.5.166] helo=ben) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14XXaA-0001ND-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:01:34 +0000 Message-ID: <072401c0a053$07628240$7105883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: 2000 AGM Minutes Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:18:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Paul, Your pound of flesh..... http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/2000agm.htm Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 00:29:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1R0RWA09602 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:27:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R0RUh09592 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:27:30 GMT Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (mail12.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.215]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R0ROY11175 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:27:24 GMT Received: from modem-166.carbon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.5.166] helo=ben) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14XXo0-0003Yh-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:15:53 +0000 Message-ID: <074601c0a055$06e35540$7105883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Plea for help. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:34:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, We are in desparate need of someone to do the distribution of BUF discs. If anyone out there would be willing to give up a small amount of their time to box up and post the occasional disc order please get in contact. This would be extremely helpful to us as Chris Hughes is rarely able to reach a Post Office due to long work hours. Thanks Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 07:42:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1R7Znu29108 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:35:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R7Zlh29098 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:35:47 GMT Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R7ZlY29580 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:35:47 GMT Received: from jupiter ([213.105.79.149]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010227073546.POGF283.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@jupiter> for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:35:46 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Duncan Pocklington" To: Subject: Into the Lions Den - bringing the game into disrepute Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:38:25 -0000 Message-ID: <000201c0a090$454a35c0$954f69d5@jupiter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk OK, it would be easy to become judgemental, high and mighty, holier than thou, but I shall try and remain objective. Drugs in Ultimate - this is not the first time this issue has been raised, and I'm sure it isn't the last, but lets think about what we are doing here. It is something I feel very strongly about and would like to see our sport doing something positive and accepting that we have social responsibilities. Fact: most kids, from the age of 14, have already encountered drugs, soft or otherwise, at youth clubs, schools, from their older siblings, and know where to get them. Fact: people make their own decisions about whether or not they want to use drugs, sometimes they do it because they want to experiment, rebel, they like it, or they may feel forced to by peer pressure - "everybody else is doing it". Fact: players at all levels are known to smoke dope, some do it before during and after playing, others don't, leaving it for the party. Fact: players at all levels do not smoke dope, many don't smoke tobacco, others don't even drink. Fact: because of the way the media likes to operate our sport will be judged on our stance on issues such as social inclusion, drugs tolerance, NOT how fast it is, how fit you have to be and how great it is to watch a top level (or any) game. Fact: if and when our sport is accepted as an Olympic event our players will be subject to random drug tests which will not only pick up performance enhancing substances but will also detect illegal drugs, be they cannabis, ecstasy or something harder. (The snowboarding incident was resolved - I believe - on the basis the individual had not actually smoked anything himself, he had absorbed the fumes from his buddies he socialised with.) Fact: other sports, that attract funding, sponsorship, tv and media coverage, take a very hard line on drugs, witness recent incidents resulting in fines and suspension. I have coached a junior team and was always very aware of the drug issue, I made it clear this was a form of behaviour that I would not tolerate on the team, they respected this, and yes, they may have been experimenting away from the team, but it was nothing to do with Ultimate. And my point is? I personally am appalled at the lack of judgement shown here by the hosts. What message are you giving out? It does not project the image that I (and I would've thought you ) want for this sport. Finally, well done to the team and individuals who organised and ran what was obviously a popular and successful event. To the person who had the great idea for the trophies - grow up, its not funny and you haven't helped promote the sport you love to play. Sadly (to me anyway) it appears that drugs are an integral part of the Ultimate culture. I hate the idea that the drugs side of things might actually attract people to our sport. It's not why I play ultimate. I accept that drugs are part of our society and have many friends who like to sit around the campfire and spliff up. Personally, I don't join in but I respect their right and they respect mine. What happens now (besides loads of replies that may or may not agree with me?) Lets have some positive action on this one. BUF we're waiting Sarah Pocklington From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 08:30:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1R8Qdi19185 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:26:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R8Qbh19174 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:26:37 GMT Received: from mail.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1R8QaY02980 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:26:37 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 24309 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2001 08:01:34 -0000 Received: from mail.kbw.co.uk (HELO aurora.oyster.co.uk) (193.132.201.148) by server-33.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 27 Feb 2001 08:01:34 -0000 Received: by AURORA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1V2VQ4Q8>; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:26:30 -0000 Message-ID: <7165D5A55FC4D41184DB00D0B7B9E62D8DC32A@AURORA> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:26:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Despite many people's ambivalence over the issue of drug-taking, surely there can be no objections to the fact that we shouldn't be seen to be advocating it through ANY official channels (which the position of Tournament Director constitutes). Team names are individual teams' choice and there's little we can do to stop them having other connotations, at this stage of the sport I don't think we're in a position to affect that (or would want to). But we could as a group insist that in future drugs should not be mentioned or alluded to by any of the official side of the sport. If we did that maybe people like Chris would have a little faith restored and would continue to bring new youngsters along. Would we want to think we'd prevented other people getting the enjoyment we all get out of the sport, just for the sake of giving out a red-eye bong or spliff-holder? I'm sure I'll be accused of hypocrisy, but aren't the best vicars ex-convicts? Cheers PieBoy (Bullfrog) -----Original Message----- From: Chris White [mailto:penguins@hove42.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 26 February 2001 20:48 To: britdisc Subject: Re: Bringing the Game into Disrepute OK, didn't think I'd ever get into this sort of thing so quickly into setting up a team. (Still unregistered, sorry Ben and Kevin!) I run a school based team. We're trying to get it set up outside the school, but as yet, we're still a cosy school group. Had my team been at that event then it would have been the last event they (and the school) would have ever been to. (And that's not due to any feelings on my behalf) If you think I'm exaggerating then let me explain why. Any school based event has to have at least 2 teachers with it. The other would probably have felt a duty to report it, even if I didn't. There is also the fact the kids would have talked about it and it would be round the school in a matter of minutes. Any school trip (apart from the masses of paperwork) needs to have permission from both the headteacher and the governors. The head would have been bound to hear. I would have been called up to explain what happened. The governors would have been informed, and I would have probably faced some sort of disciplinary as a minimum, possibly more, especially if it was ever reported in a newspaper. 'Teacher takes students to drugs endorsing sports event' or something like that. It could ultimately cost me my job as a teacher, permanently. I know that sounds drastic, but that is how things work in teaching. It would have definitely cost me my probationary year at the school, I would probably have to look for a job at another school and go through my probationary year again, assuming a school would take someone who had failed a probationary year (far whatever reason). The head and the governors would then never endorse a team going to another tournament, and the training sessions would come to an end as well. (Sorry I realise that's a bit long) I'm sure that the people involved in the tournie didn't mean any harm by, though I don't think it's the sort of things I'd want, but at the end of the day everyone really needs to think about the whole game, the whole time. One of the biggest problems I've encountered (especially with starting the club up at school) is that for many people perception is reality. If they perceive that it is a drugs related sport then they will believe it really is (and I don't know why people feel that any sport should have drugs image due purely to the sport that it is). Again, such a thing can be deadly (job wise) to someone in the teaching profession. Just one 'headline', true or otherwise can ruin a career. Irrespective of whether or not I, or any of the students take drugs, I am now in the unenviable position where I will have to think twice about taking any of them to a tournament. As much as I have enjoyed ultimate whenever I've played it, it's not worth a job I've invested so much of my own time and money in. Sorry that this has been such a long note, and rather heavy at times. I dare say that some of you won't believe me (for whatever reasons you have), I can only assure you that what I have said is either reality or a real fear of what could easily happen. Chris "yes I'm Vanessa's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" White ------------------------------------------------------------ Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 09:25:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1R9MHr10260 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:22:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R9MDh10222 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:22:14 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f211.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1R9MCY13389 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:22:13 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:21:58 -0800 Received: from 152.71.30.138 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:21:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.71.30.138] From: "David Wynd" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Bringing the Game into Disrepute Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:21:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Feb 2001 09:21:58.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC2433E0:01C0A09E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all I feel i should apologize for the prizes that were awarded at the nottingham tournament this weekend. I helped in organizing the tournament and although i had nothing to do with the nature of the prizes i feel i should of been more aware of what the prizes were going to be before they were purchased and made an effort to have them changed to things more along the line of the traditional vase/plate/spoon. I know this is not much consolation to any reputations that may of been damaged due to our mistake and i will make sure this will not happen again at a tournament that i help organize. I will also make sure that everyone else involved in this mistake will realize what they have done and maybe apologize to you all themselfs. David FlyTNT _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 10:14:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RACl203258 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:12:47 GMT Received: from 137.205.222.1 (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1RACgh03227; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:12:43 GMT Message-ID: <3A9B7E35.ABB@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:15:35 +0000 From: Dave Neilson Reply-To: D.P.Neilson@warwick.ac.uk Organization: Warwick Institute of Education X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: [Fwd: World Ultimate Sponsorship Advertising Program] Content-Type: message/news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Path: warwick!server1.netnews.ja.net!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!portc.blue.aol.com.MISMATCH!portc01.blue.aol.com!peerfeed.news.psi.net!news-feed2.tiac.net!news.total.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3A9B70B4.75098CF9@interlog.com> From: John C Harris Reply-To: harrisj@interlog.com Organization: SOTG Events X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc Subject: World Ultimate Sponsorship Advertising Program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:17:40 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 154.20.80.8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@total.net X-Trace: news.total.net 983265379 154.20.80.8 (Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:16:19 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:16:19 EST Xref: warwick rec.sport.disc:29901 I am helping Dave Brown re-launch the World Ultimate Magazine (some of you may have seen the first two issues which were awesome)! Dave has set up a program to allow Ultimate players an opportunity to raise funds by helping to secure advertisers for the magazine. There are some details below. I hope that some of you will be able to take advantage of this program. John C. Harris Toronto ********************** ATTENTION: Ultimate players interested in raising funds for yourself, your team or your project World Ultimate magazine, after partnering with Parallel, a successful advertising agency, and SOTG Events, run by John Harris of Toronto, is in the midst of securing advertisers (hi-tech recruiting companies and others) as it works towards its Spring re-launch of this quarterly magazine. As part of this effort, and in conjunction with the growing need for Ultimate sponsorship funds, it has launched the "World Ultimate Sponsor Advertising Program" - (WUSAP) The program is simple: World Ultimate will give the usual agency and ad rep fees, equaling 25% commission, to anyone who can bring in advertisers at our published rates. That is, if you (Ultimate player, coach or team) bring World Ultimate magazine an advertiser (ex: a $3,414 full page ad), WUM will issue you a cheque for 25% commission ($853.50). This program gives players an opportunity to raise money for tourney expenses, league fees, uniforms, discs for clinics or whatever..... and basically turns each Ultimate player who gets involved into an Ad Rep for the magazine and the sport. EXAMPLE: Potential advertisers/sponsors include: * Hi-tech companies wishing to advertise their career opportunities to a demographic that has more than 50% working in the hi-tech sector and a substantial university market of students studying as engineers, programmers etc. * Companies wishing to promote their services, company or products to outdoor and sports-minded professionals who not only play Ultimate but have a keen interest in anything to do with the outdoors, traveling, and so on. For further information check out our web page: http://www.worldultimate.com. If you have a lead you'd like to pursue, please contact John asap. We believe this is an innovative and strong approach to fundraising, and we look forward to hearing from anyone who can secure a sponsor/advertiser as we ready for your tourneys, and our Spring issue. Please forward this to any Ultimate-related email lists you may have in order to facilitate a trickle-down effect of getting the word out on this new and exciting program. Thanks in advance! Dave :) Dave Brown Publisher/Editor-in-Chief World Ultimate Magazine ************************************** For more information, please contact: John C. Harris Director of WUSAP Sponsorship World Ultimate Magazine 104-1264 York Mills Rd Toronto, Ontario M3A 1Y9 H. 416-441-2773 W. 416-426-7175 F. 416-426-7153 mailto:wusap@worldultimate.com http://www.worldultimate.com/wusap.html From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 11:40:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RBZ5N12452 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:35:05 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RBZ0h12423 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:35:00 GMT Received: from orion.uk.insnet.net (orion.uk.insnet.net [194.177.174.244]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RBYiF20068 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:34:56 GMT Received: from kingsbrook.northants.sch.uk ([213.12.252.176]) by orion.uk.insnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18844 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:34:33 GMT Received: from reoffice by kingsbrook.northants.sch.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.5.0.R) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:20:04 +0000 Message-ID: <004c01c0a0ae$e63599c0$2b02a8c0@reoffice> From: "j_rushton" To: "Jonathan Palmer" , References: <011101c09ce0$21d098e0$9e08c69b@peter> Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:17:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: J_Rushton@kingsbrook.northants.sch.uk Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk as an interesting post script to the debate are we all aware that there is an ex-student is now holidaying round the world on profits made from the sheffield tour of 1999 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 13:31:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RDSRG06410 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:28:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RDSPh06401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:28:25 GMT Received: from smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.104]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RDSIF14157 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:28:19 GMT Received: from pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.113]) by smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27654 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:28:17 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00852; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:28:17 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:28:17 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Tue Feb 27 13:28:17 2001; Local host: pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > are we all aware that there is an ex-student is now > holidaying round the world on profits made from the > sheffield tour of 1999 If you're right, we are now... ...and my congratulations go to that person. Mostly for bothering to run the event in the first place, but with a healthy dose of "for getting away with it"! Ok, we could all probably niggle about something at Sheffield, and there were definitely a few _comments_ about a couple of the pitches, but there was no noticable _outburst_ at the time (was there?) and it's way too late now... But does anyone wonder why we haven't been back there ? Does anyone wonder if the powers that be learned lessons from experience and have effectively now designated that particular Sheffield setup as "realistically too small" for that no. of pitches? Here are some other definite financial facts, that I have a personal involvement in: and a large chunk of the Ultimate participation that the Layout Dreams duo do is funded by the profits we make from the tournaments we run... the Fluid Druids aim to (at least!) fully fund their entries to Indoor and Outdoor Nationals from the profits they make at Newport and RossOnWye tournaments, respectively. For a couple of years, all UK tournaments we entered were covered by the profits made by the tournaments we ran. In 1997, the Ross entry was jacked up (near doubled!) to provide us with some funding for WUCC - and we were still oversubscribed. It seems to me that the current debate isn't so much "tournaments shouldn't make a profit" as "tournaments should appear to provide value for money" What is "an acceptable level of profit", or, from the alternative perspective, what is "apparent value for money" It's complicated by the "supply and demand" factor (my RossOnWye example earlier) and the "vicious circle" it generates... If people really want to play, they WILL pay whatever is necessary. Therefore, TDs charge more... teams pay more... TDs charge more... But, as Paul Meaney is rightly concerned but poorly expressing, are the facilities provided actually any better??? Why should teams pay this much? Answer: because, if they want to play, they either have to pay that much, or organise a more economical alternative. However: If a team CAN go out and run a tournament in profit for £60 per team, WHY BOTHER when they can charge £80 and cover a whole host of other expenses? For that matter, why aren't more teams doing this??? Hopefully, somewhere in my ramblings, there's some food for thought... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids Layout Dreams and fifth sub-level assistant to anybody that's asked questions on how to set up/run a tournament. -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 15:03:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1REwDv17636 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:58:13 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1REw9h17601 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:58:10 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:00:42 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: John C Harris Subject: Fwd: World Ultimate Sponsorship Advertising Program Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: John C Harris Reply-To: harrisj@interlog.com Organization: SOTG Events Newsgroups: rec.sport.disc Subject: World Ultimate Sponsorship Advertising Program Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:17:40 -0500 I am helping Dave Brown re-launch the World Ultimate Magazine (some of you may have seen the first two issues which were awesome)! Dave has set up a program to allow Ultimate players an opportunity to raise funds by helping to secure advertisers for the magazine. There are some details below. I hope that some of you will be able to take advantage of this program. John C. Harris Toronto ********************** ATTENTION: Ultimate players interested in raising funds for yourself, your team or your project World Ultimate magazine, after partnering with Parallel, a successful advertising agency, and SOTG Events, run by John Harris of Toronto, is in the midst of securing advertisers (hi-tech recruiting companies and others) as it works towards its Spring re-launch of this quarterly magazine. As part of this effort, and in conjunction with the growing need for Ultimate sponsorship funds, it has launched the "World Ultimate Sponsor Advertising Program" - (WUSAP) The program is simple: World Ultimate will give the usual agency and ad rep fees, equaling 25% commission, to anyone who can bring in advertisers at our published rates. That is, if you (Ultimate player, coach or team) bring World Ultimate magazine an advertiser (ex: a $3,414 full page ad), WUM will issue you a cheque for 25% commission ($853.50). This program gives players an opportunity to raise money for tourney expenses, league fees, uniforms, discs for clinics or whatever ... and basically turns each Ultimate player who gets involved into an Ad Rep for the magazine and the sport. EXAMPLE: Potential advertisers/sponsors include: * Hi-tech companies wishing to advertise their career opportunities to a demographic that has more than 50% working in the hi-tech sector and a substantial university market of students studying as engineers, programmers etc. * Companies wishing to promote their services, company or products to outdoor and sports-minded professionals who not only play Ultimate but have a keen interest in anything to do with the outdoors, traveling, and so on. For further information check out our web page: http://www.worldultimate.com. If you have a lead you'd like to pursue, please contact John asap. We believe this is an innovative and strong approach to fundraising, and we look forward to hearing from anyone who can secure a sponsor/advertiser as we ready for your tourneys, and our Spring issue. Please forward this to any Ultimate-related email lists you may have in order to facilitate a trickle-down effect of getting the word out on this new and exciting program. Thanks in advance! Dave :) Dave Brown Publisher/Editor-in-Chief World Ultimate Magazine ************************************** For more information, please contact: John C. Harris Director of WUSAP Sponsorship World Ultimate Magazine 104-1264 York Mills Rd Toronto, Ontario M3A 1Y9 H. 416-441-2773 W. 416-426-7175 F. 416-426-7153 mailto:wusap@worldultimate.com http://www.worldultimate.com/wusap.html From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 15:56:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RFZWs07096 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:35:32 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RFZUh07082 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:35:30 GMT Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com (web11207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.189]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1RFZ7Y05736 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:35:19 GMT Message-ID: <20010227153451.5064.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.71.30.222] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:34:51 PST Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:34:51 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stewart Subject: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi, my names dan. my ears have been burning a little recently as it seems everybody has been talking about me. yes it was i who purchased those now immortal prizes for last weekends FLY TNT nottingham tournament. when i first read stigs email i must admit i went fucking apeshit. upon reflection i can see how the prize giving ceremony may have put the game in a bad light as far as the teams sponsors were concerned. however i am of the opinion that paul knew exactly what sort of tournament he was coming to when the invitation asked: "are your team smoking, non-smoking or schmokin'". i dont want to start some sort of slagging match with paul, but when your team names refer to foul language and cunnilingus, i dont feel you're setting the best example for the game either; hardly appropriate for two junior teams. i think everybody else at the tournament took the prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I respect paul's point, and his postion as a teacher, but i am NOT going to apologise for my actions. had i been organizing prizes for a regional final, i probably would've done things a little differently. but as it stands, the tournament has no 'official' connections, and was only a little fun. as for BUF action, i implore you not to take any action against the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am responsible for the prizes, so blame me. and remember kids, winners dont take drugs. dan. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 17:33:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RHCCN22790 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:12:12 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RHC9h22760 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:12:09 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:14:35 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: "j_rushton" Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1RHCBh22776 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: "j_rushton" Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:18:27 -0000 yup fair enough you host a social tourny and everyone knows where the money is going and people can vote with their feet (i did) if they don't want to go, good luck to you Big difference between that and hosting a tour tourny which everyone has to go to if they want to qualify for anything (we'd have missed nationals and world clubs if we hadn't gone) and then going round the world on the profits, and it was a pious skint student who did it. I never dissed sheffield 1999, I accept how hard the whole tourny thing is, the whole team hosting (well Ben mainly) the Nationals in 1999 was hard enough. facilities and showers are all part of the gamble and fun of it. But COME ON, I'm allowed to be a little narked and worried in the current climate of price hikes and profit making. I'll pay the money, with a big fat smile on my face, and enjoy the humour of cold showers and no toilet paper, if it buys disks and pitches for orphan frisbee players or even if it funds a trip to hawaii or prague for the druids but not if it pays for someones year off ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Retter To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) > are we all aware that there is an ex-student is now > holidaying round the world on profits made from the > sheffield tour of 1999 If you're right, we are now... ...and my congratulations go to that person. Mostly for bothering to run the event in the first place, but with a healthy dose of "for getting away with it"! Ok, we could all probably niggle about something at Sheffield, and there were definitely a few _comments_ about a couple of the pitches, but there was no noticable _outburst_ at the time (was there?) and it's way too late now... But does anyone wonder why we haven't been back there ? Does anyone wonder if the powers that be learned lessons from experience and have effectively now designated that particular Sheffield setup as "realistically too small" for that no. of pitches? Here are some other definite financial facts, that I have a personal involvement in: and a large chunk of the Ultimate participation that the Layout Dreams duo do is funded by the profits we make from the tournaments we run... the Fluid Druids aim to (at least!) fully fund their entries to Indoor and Outdoor Nationals from the profits they make at Newport and RossOnWye tournaments, respectively. For a couple of years, all UK tournaments we entered were covered by the profits made by the tournaments we ran. In 1997, the Ross entry was jacked up (near doubled!) to provide us with some funding for WUCC - and we were still oversubscribed. It seems to me that the current debate isn't so much "tournaments shouldn't make a profit" as "tournaments should appear to provide value for money" What is "an acceptable level of profit", or, from the alternative perspective, what is "apparent value for money" It's complicated by the "supply and demand" factor (my RossOnWye example earlier) and the "vicious circle" it generates... If people really want to play, they WILL pay whatever is necessary. Therefore, TDs charge more... teams pay more... TDs charge more... But, as Paul Meaney is rightly concerned but poorly expressing, are the facilities provided actually any better??? Why should teams pay this much? Answer: because, if they want to play, they either have to pay that much, or organise a more economical alternative. However: If a team CAN go out and run a tournament in profit for £60 per team, WHY BOTHER when they can charge £80 and cover a whole host of other expenses? For that matter, why aren't more teams doing this??? Hopefully, somewhere in my ramblings, there's some food for thought... Wayne Retter Fluid Druids Layout Dreams and fifth sub-level assistant to anybody that's asked questions on how to set up/run a tournament. -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 17:47:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RHjID07010 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:45:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RHjEh06978 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:45:14 GMT Received: from mta2-svc.virgin.net (mta2-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.42]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RHirY29668 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:45:04 GMT Received: from oemcomputer ([62.255.20.17]) by mta2-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010227174400.JIO1897.mta2-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:44:00 +0000 Message-ID: <004101c0a0e7$26a34e20$1114ff3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" To: "Schuricht Paul Dr USAFA/DFAN" Cc: "BRITDISC" References: <15A5B6227F19D311856E0090274645350265FBAD@fsxqpz05.usafa.af.mil> Subject: Re: Re The Cost of Tour 1 and students Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0A0E7.25EAAC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0A0E7.25EAAC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Doh! Yes ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Schuricht Paul Dr USAFA/DFAN=20 To: adam batchelor=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Re The Cost of Tour 1 and students Hope you mean 1am for the late bar. -----Original Message----- From: adam batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 4:39 PM To: BRITDISC Cc: Mathew Edwards Subject: Re The Cost of Tour 1 and students Dear All Matt Edwards and I are organising Tour 1 in Bristol (do not send = money to me or contact me about this tournament PLEASE as Matt will be = dealing with the organisation as he has the time available). I = personally am involved because I am aware that Chris Hughes was = struggling for venues so I told him I would do it if I could charge a = large amount of money to make my profit margins very good. I am short of = time and while most of you guys were in nappies I was organising = Tourneys and making a profit from them. If you don't want people to make = a profit out of Ultimate players then YOU DO IT, BUT if not then don't = whinge to me because I m not interested - Try calling your mother if you = want sympathy! Now I have been accused of being a profiteering bastard and I would = just like to say - yes what's your point. There will be a =A330 discount for all student teams at Tour 1 in = Bristol as well as camping available on site (not restricted to = students) at no additional fee and a cheap food option (pasta and such = like) available at the clubhouse for the evening meal where there will = also be a late bar (1pm hopefully) and party. Rumour has it that one or = two people may even get hot showers! I believe that the cost per team will be Student Teams =A3120 =20 Others =A3150 This is yet to be confirmed. Hope I haven't bored you L & K=20 Adam Fatboy Batchelor PS This discount does not apply to Mythago as they would not let us = enter their tournament. PPS That was humour? http://www.virgin.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0A0E7.25EAAC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Doh! Yes
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Schuricht Paul Dr USAFA/DFAN =
To: adam=20 batchelor
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, = 2001 4:56=20 PM
Subject: RE: Re The Cost of = Tour 1 and=20 students

Hope=20 you mean 1am for the late bar.
-----Original Message-----
From: adam batchelor = [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.ne= t]
Sent:=20 Monday, February 26, 2001 4:39 PM
To: = BRITDISC
Cc:=20 Mathew Edwards
Subject: Re The Cost of Tour 1 and=20 students

Dear All
 
Matt Edwards and I are organising = Tour 1 in=20 Bristol (do not send money to me or contact me about this tournament = PLEASE=20 as Matt will be dealing with the organisation as he has the time = available).=20 I personally am involved because I am aware that Chris Hughes was = struggling=20 for venues so I told him I would do it if I could charge a large = amount of=20 money to make my profit margins very good. I am short of time and = while most=20 of you guys were in nappies I was organising Tourneys and making a = profit=20 from them. If you don't want people to make a profit out of Ultimate = players=20 then YOU DO IT, BUT if not then don't = whinge to me=20 because I m not interested - Try calling your mother if you want=20 sympathy!
 
Now I have been accused of being a = profiteering=20 bastard and I would just like to say - yes what's your = point.
 
There will be a =A330 discount for = all student=20 teams at Tour 1 in Bristol as well as camping available on site (not = restricted to students) at no additional fee and a cheap food option = (pasta=20 and such like) available at the clubhouse for the evening meal where = there=20 will also be a late bar (1pm hopefully) and party. Rumour has it = that one or=20 two people may even get hot showers!
 
I believe that the cost per team = will=20 be
Student Teams   =20 =A3120     
Others    =    =20         =A3150
 
This is yet to be = confirmed.
 
Hope I haven't bored = you
 
L & K
Adam Fatboy Batchelor
 
PS This discount does not apply to = Mythago as=20 they would not let us enter their tournament.
PPS That was humour?
http://www.virgin.net/
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0A0E7.25EAAC80-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 18:17:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RI0kG13146 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RI0hh13125 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:43 GMT Received: from netmail.co.uk (netmail.netmail.co.uk [194.205.11.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1RHxXY01632 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:00:31 GMT Received: from PROXY2 (PROXY2 [194.205.11.21]) by netmail.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.afxy) with ESMTP id za606475 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:58:07 +0000 Received: from ben [218.99.151.24] by vac.uk.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:56:34 +0000 From: "Ben Rolfe" To: Subject: tour(naments) and money... Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:55:27 -0000 Message-ID: <003001c0a0e6$79303aa0$189763da@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "Make the tour smaller. I believe I've mentioned this about four or five times. Ultimate is not a high enough profile sport in the UK to demand access to decent facilities" Paul Meaney (Fri by Britdisc daily) Hoping to counter Paul's position - I'd like more cash, bigger tournaments and a bigger profile for our sport, I can mention this many times if it helps. Cash gets goods and services, and profile follows from how much you have, how well you use it and how widely you publicise/advertise what you do. I think a good mission statement for the BU Association would be "raise as much cash as possible and spend it wisely to take Ultimate to as many players and spectators as possible ". I'd like to hear more along the lines of Kev Lowe's positive attitude AND action. TD's, Organisers and even BUF workers deserve to make money out of Ultimate, even if they don't do a perfect job all the time. And for TDs and Organisers who know where and how to get decent facilities and customer satisfaction time after time, they deserve to make a decent amount of profit. One day maybe tournaments will be run to zero profit and the TD's paid a fixed rate from central funds, with bonuses for good behaviour. So bring on the BUA and paid employees who CAN be held accountable - our sport needs time AND money to grow. For example 45 GBP per player per year and 30 GBP for students - you get a few weeks off school to work don't you? Failing that there's always your parents. One could take this a stage further and divide into hi and lo earners, unemployed and free for juniors. Whatever - our sport needs investment from somewhere - someone's got to bite the bullet, then with a better system maybe we get more players, more publicity, some external funding and before you know it the cost is coming down. Web database every player and use this info. For example for payment at tournaments, mailings, rostering, perhaps sell the database to people who might be interested in advertising to us (ok - not worth much now but in 5-10 yrs time?), and also use it for our own stats. Registration could run out at the end of outdoors and extended at cost for those who play indoors. With an association fee behind us we could move to pay-per-player-per-tournament (drop the team fee) to be fair to small/hardcore/poorer teams who are as valuable to Ultimate as any other team. This way the "serious" teams contribute more than just great players in that they also generate more money for Ultimate by necessitating a seriously sized squad and possibly a second team. Teams would have to submit all their player fees (~15GBP per player?) in advance to the TD with a list of their players, these are entered on the tournament website which could highlight any players not subscribed to the BUA or any players down to play for 2 different teams. Alterations and pick-ups could be sorted before Saturday lunchtimes. Stuff like Wayne was saying about players only playing one game or day is interesting - I'd say make them pay the full fee - if your team really need them and they refuse or are unable to pay - subsidise them, all of 1GBP from each of the other players - whatever they would have to be registered (by proxy if necessary) at the tournament by Saturday lunch. TD's could offer tournament fee discounts for students and juniors when possible and/or to get the numbers right for the tournament - nothing new in sales through discount or prohibition through price. Regarding travel and overall costs - think about how Ultimate compares to other leisure activities on a pounds/hour basis, and also how lucky we are to play the sport we love all over the beautiful UK without having to be a county level sportsperson. Personally I'm thankful to all Bdisc - without the full range of hecklers and hot heads, the skint and the "savers", I don't think any kind of debate would spark, let alone evolve. Cheers, mb ps sorry for dragging this out - been a bit busy what with ultimate, work AND studies now where'd those 8 pitches get to? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 18:34:14 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RIVQg25403 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:31:26 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RIVPh25396 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:31:25 GMT Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (mail2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RIUEF02827 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:30:19 GMT Received: from modem-2.armenelos.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.125.2] helo=v2n6k5) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14Xosy-0004mz-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:30:09 +0000 Message-ID: <003101c0a0eb$718e8c20$027d883e@v2n6k5> From: "Chris White" To: References: <20010227153451.5064.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:31:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies etc aside I'd like to say that I also hope that a blanket action against a whole community wouldn't be taken. Dan, you've taken the responsibility for the prizes, and while you feel an apology isn't warranted, given the same situation, would you do it again. You said you'd have done it differently if it were an official tournie, but at the end of the day my head and governors would not have seen any difference between an unofficial and official tournie. At the end of the day, the simple fact remains that I can't risk a career (let alone a job) for a tournie. I appreciate that this doesn't happen as a regular occurrence and will obviously be trying to get my students to an event at some point in the future (paperwork etc permitting), but will I have to be ensuring that every tournie is an Official BUF one etc to make sure that someone else's idea of a joke (and I appreciate that you did mean it is jest) isn't going to land me in very serious trouble (jest or no jest). Dan, please don't think that I'm trying to be personal at all, and this isn't directed solely at you. I've sent it to Britdisc for a reason. I need real assurances that I'm not going to get caught out. Sorry if I seem to have repeated the same thing several time there, but it's important to me. Chris From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Feb 27 19:13:01 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1RJBc309832 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:11:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RJBah09820 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:11:36 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1RJBVF21726 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:11:36 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus.open.ac.uk via SMTP Local (Mailer 3.1); Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:11:23 +0000 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22562; Tue, 27 Feb 01 19:11:22 GMT Message-Id: <10102271911.AA22562@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:11:20 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Students & the Tour (was Tour Dates etc.) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1RJBbh09823 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Jack, please note 1) Chris Hughes is NOT inundated with lots of quality bids for tour events. 2) He has to find four venues and four TD's to run tournaments at them each year. 3) He can only use the bids he has. Are you advocating he adds some kind of ethics test to the requirements for making a bid? It seems to me that in the absence of anybody else, the guy who ran the Sheffield Tour was the cheapest source of what we wanted, or he would have been undercut by somebody else wanting to roll around in piles of cash. What he does with the money is of no real interest to me. If Chris only has four bids, even for poor venues, he's somewhat limited in what he can do. If he gets less than four bids, then we're all screwed. Evidently even at the old low prices, which supposedly offered plenty of scope for profit, not enough people were motivated to make bids. Alternatively, maybe there was only room for profit in a few situations, and the number of bids was limited by the venues that could be afforded. Increasing the maximum that can be charged only increases the range of bids that can be made, as well as offering more motivation to bidders. As Adam Batchelor and Kev Lowe have both pointed out, the fees don't have to be £150 a team, you and every one else can put in bids for tour tournaments which charge less, and hopefully this will be because you need to do so to undercut the other huge number of bids. Either way hopefully all the people who follow this thread will be motivated to cash in next year - I know its got me thinking. Pete Connor (who played Sheffield with a large combined student team which spread the cost around nicely thank you) > From: "j_rushton" > Big difference between that and hosting a tour tourny which everyone has to > go to if they want to qualify for anything (we'd have missed nationals and > world clubs if we hadn't gone) and then going round the world on the > profits, and it was a pious skint student who did it. > I never dissed sheffield 1999, I accept how hard the whole tourny thing is, > the whole team hosting (well Ben mainly) the Nationals in 1999 was hard > enough. facilities and showers are all part of the gamble and fun of it. But > COME ON, I'm allowed to be a little narked and worried in the current > climate of price hikes and profit making. I'll pay the money, with a big fat > smile on my face, and enjoy the humour of cold showers and no toilet paper, > if it buys disks and pitches for orphan frisbee players or even if it funds > a trip to hawaii or prague for the druids but not if it pays for someones > year off From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 01:58:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1S1ruD00466 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:53:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1S1rch00363 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:53:53 GMT Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk (mail1.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1S1rYF26974 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:53:38 GMT Received: from modem-107.carbon.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.5.107] helo=ben) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14Xvo5-00084f-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:53:33 +0000 Message-ID: <002e01c0a12a$3de39fc0$d901883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: References: <003001c0a0e6$79303aa0$189763da@ben> Subject: Association Proposal Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:00:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, This seems a good moment to publish the first draft of the association proposal. I would be very happy if as many people as possible took the time to read it in full and give as much feedback as they like. Much of the tone is of a 'we will do x' nature. Please don't take that to mean its all been decided! http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.doc (Word 97 - better quality) http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm (Webpage) Looking forward to the response.... Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 09:50:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1S9ltj13778 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:47:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1S9lmh13702 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:47:48 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1S9lkY03785 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:47:47 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Y3Cw-000BhR-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:47:42 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14Y3Cw-000Cv3-01; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:47:42 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:38:53 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:38:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi my [sic] names max. Dan, I like most of us out here, don't know who you are, but you really do come across as a bit of a twat. > i went fucking apeshit. nice terminology. > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I Red nose day is normally taken in jest, not the promotion of illegal drug taking when we are trying to the public's perception of Ultimate. > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. We are. Surely you can open your eyes wide enough and clear your head sufficiently to realise that you've made a mistake. A simple uncomplicated apology for your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot as we had at first thought. Max "yes, I'm Penny's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" Keogh From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 10:59:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SAul615918 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:56:47 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SAukh15902 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:56:46 GMT Received: from mail.london-2.starlabs.net (mail.london-2.starlabs.net [212.125.75.4]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1SAuhY16306 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:56:45 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 16226 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2001 10:41:27 -0000 Received: from mail.kbw.co.uk (HELO aurora.oyster.co.uk) (193.132.201.148) by server-43.tower-1.london-2.starlabs.net with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 10:41:27 -0000 Received: by AURORA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1V2VQ7H3>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:56:36 -0000 Message-ID: <7165D5A55FC4D41184DB00D0B7B9E62D8DC35B@AURORA> From: Roger Thomson To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:56:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >A simple uncomplicated apology for >your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot >as we had at first thought. Max - what you're saying is true to some extent, but can't we all just calm down? Dan takes the point, this kind of things doesn't seem likely to ever happen again - so there seems little point forcing someone who had no bad intentions into an unheartfelt apology. He thought what he did was going to be funny, it just turned out to be a mistake. All this name-calling reminds me of when a certain nameless player threatened me physically after a heated Britdisc discussion about 5 years ago, we don't want to go down that road do we? Things have been so civilised for so long.... I don't think there's any need for us all to victimise him - it's a consequence of one of the aspects of our sport being at the stage it is. There's alot of different reasons for playing the sport, and alot of different attitudes to the game. An un-official BUF policy on not mentioning or alluding to drug-taking would help (after all it would probably be bad press for us to be seen as having to address this officially), but we've got to remember that for a lot of people the sport is a social one with all the connotations that brings, and we wouldn't want to disenfranchise them (us?) for the sake of an archaic unlibertarian law which is under constant threat of review. It's a tough cookie though. Even more reason to be glad you're not Ben Ravilious ;-) Laters, PieBoy (Bullfrog?) -----Original Message----- From: Max Keogh [mailto:max@student-reservations.co.uk] Sent: 28 February 2001 09:39 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS hi my [sic] names max. Dan, I like most of us out here, don't know who you are, but you really do come across as a bit of a twat. > i went fucking apeshit. nice terminology. > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I Red nose day is normally taken in jest, not the promotion of illegal drug taking when we are trying to the public's perception of Ultimate. > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. We are. Surely you can open your eyes wide enough and clear your head sufficiently to realise that you've made a mistake. A simple uncomplicated apology for your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot as we had at first thought. Max "yes, I'm Penny's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 11:13:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SBBkU24103 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:11:46 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SBBih24087 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:11:45 GMT Received: from hermes.dur.ac.uk (hermes.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SBBiY19801 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:11:44 GMT Received: from mercury.dur.ac.uk (mercury.dur.ac.uk [129.234.4.40]) by hermes.dur.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SBBKr27063 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:11:20 GMT Received: from [129.234.53.60] (s-cws60.dur.ac.uk [129.234.53.60]) by mercury.dur.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1SBBJB04249 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:11:19 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:08:16 +0000 Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS From: Paul Williamson To: Brit disc Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think that the resolution to this problem is simply some common sense from the Ultimate community. It is clearly unacceptable to associate the sport with Drugs in any way. The responsibility for this lies with every player. Individual choice on the drugs issue is still yours, just don't associate it with the sport. In this way you will be helping the sport to be open to everyone, which is surely one of the reasons it is a great sport. Surely even Dan can't disagree with this. Although he didn't come across as someone with much common sense.. Paul Squeaky, DUF, Northern Lights -- http://www.dufdisc.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 11:28:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SBQbW01097 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:37 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SBQXh01070 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:33 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SBQWF04563 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:32 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Y4kR-000E1T-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:23 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14Y4kQ-000JEF-01; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:26:22 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:22:41 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:22:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Rog et al, Don't worry. I'm quite calm and certainly don't want this to escalate to the levels of the aforementioned slanging match some years back. I simply felt that Dan's attitude was a little arrogant. He made a mistake and an apology would go some way towards resolving the situation and hopefully put him and his Nottingham teammates in a better light. I'm just making a point. Nothing more. Max -----Original Message----- From: Roger Thomson [mailto:Roger.Thomson@oyster.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:56 AM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS >A simple uncomplicated apology for >your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot >as we had at first thought. Max - what you're saying is true to some extent, but can't we all just calm down? Dan takes the point, this kind of things doesn't seem likely to ever happen again - so there seems little point forcing someone who had no bad intentions into an unheartfelt apology. He thought what he did was going to be funny, it just turned out to be a mistake. All this name-calling reminds me of when a certain nameless player threatened me physically after a heated Britdisc discussion about 5 years ago, we don't want to go down that road do we? Things have been so civilised for so long.... I don't think there's any need for us all to victimise him - it's a consequence of one of the aspects of our sport being at the stage it is. There's alot of different reasons for playing the sport, and alot of different attitudes to the game. An un-official BUF policy on not mentioning or alluding to drug-taking would help (after all it would probably be bad press for us to be seen as having to address this officially), but we've got to remember that for a lot of people the sport is a social one with all the connotations that brings, and we wouldn't want to disenfranchise them (us?) for the sake of an archaic unlibertarian law which is under constant threat of review. It's a tough cookie though. Even more reason to be glad you're not Ben Ravilious ;-) Laters, PieBoy (Bullfrog?) -----Original Message----- From: Max Keogh [mailto:max@student-reservations.co.uk] Sent: 28 February 2001 09:39 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS hi my [sic] names max. Dan, I like most of us out here, don't know who you are, but you really do come across as a bit of a twat. > i went fucking apeshit. nice terminology. > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I Red nose day is normally taken in jest, not the promotion of illegal drug taking when we are trying to the public's perception of Ultimate. > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. We are. Surely you can open your eyes wide enough and clear your head sufficiently to realise that you've made a mistake. A simple uncomplicated apology for your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot as we had at first thought. Max "yes, I'm Penny's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" Keogh ------------------------------------------------------------ Internet communications are not secure and therefore Oyster Partners Ltd does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Oyster Partners Ltd. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 12:05:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SC3A919597 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:03:10 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SC36h19561 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:03:06 GMT Received: from dns1.tctrust.net (lovelace.tctrust.net [212.250.101.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SC36Y00874 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:03:06 GMT Received: from rmproxy1.landau-forte.org.uk (proxy.landau-forte.org.uk [10.20.117.1]) by dns1.tctrust.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19106 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:03:55 GMT Received: from WR_PEPA1 (WR_PEPA1 [192.168.1.142]) by rmproxy1.landau-forte.org.uk (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id ma032070 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:02:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c0a17d$d7348060$8e01a8c0@wrpepa1> From: "unwin" To: "Dan Stewart" , References: <20010227153451.5064.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:58:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk ". i dont want to start some sort of > slagging match with paul, but when your team names > refer to foul language and cunnilingus, i dont feel > you're setting the best example for the game either As far as I am aware neither foul language nor cunnilingus are illegal in this country as yet. David ex of superfly teacher of PE unemployed if I had taken a junior team to your tournament ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Stewart To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS > hi, my names dan. my ears have been burning a little > recently as it seems everybody has been talking about > me. yes it was i who purchased those now immortal > prizes for last weekends FLY TNT nottingham > tournament. when i first read stigs email i must admit > i went fucking apeshit. upon reflection i can see how > the prize giving ceremony may have put the game in a > bad light as far as the teams sponsors were concerned. > however i am of the opinion that paul knew exactly > what sort of tournament he was coming to when the > invitation asked: "are your team smoking, non-smoking > or schmokin'". i dont want to start some sort of > slagging match with paul, but when your team names > refer to foul language and cunnilingus, i dont feel > you're setting the best example for the game either; > hardly appropriate for two junior teams. > > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I > respect paul's point, and his postion as a teacher, > but i am NOT going to apologise for my actions. had i > been organizing prizes for a regional final, i > probably would've done things a little differently. > but as it stands, the tournament has no 'official' > connections, and was only a little fun. as for BUF > action, i implore you not to take any action against > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. > > and remember kids, winners dont take drugs. > > dan. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 12:42:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SCewA04252 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:40:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SCevh04241 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:40:57 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SCevY19099 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:40:57 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Y5uW-000FUb-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:40:52 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14Y5uW-000MwY-01; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:40:52 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:37:12 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Britdisc' (E-mail)" Subject: FW: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:37:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think Tom intended this for Britdisc and not just me. Max p.s. Tom, I don't know Dan so can't comment one way or another as to his personality. I only felt the tone of his e-mail was "a little arrogant" nothing more. p.p.s. Last you'll hear from me as I have other things to get on with and I think I've made my point. -----Original Message----- From: White, Tom [mailto:tom.white@ic.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:26 PM To: 'Max Keogh ' Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS yo, well, mebbe dan is an arogant nasty guy, but whatever. there IS a big difference between tournaments in this country, and its pretty obvious which ones are serious, and which are more like freinds organising a weekend of fun. If you know your tourny is gonna be attended by kids and their parents and be videod, it prolly wouldn't be a good idea to promote illegal activities in the prizes. But if you know all the people going are adults, and they know what they are letting themselves in for, I can't see a problem. It would be foolish to harm the fun spirit of certain tournaments by restricting everyone to a kinda "strict" format where the prizes are always cups or badges etc. This sort of thang could result in tournaments being drug and alchohol free zones, which can't be a good thing. Do people not think that by having a party on saturday night, they are encouraging kids in the sport to get drunk, and have fun. No one's complained about that before, and its just as illegal to drink under aged as it is to take drugs. Anyways, have fun! laters tom (S&G) ps, snoochie boochie woochies From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 13:23:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SDLE320894 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:21:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SDLAh20867 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:21:10 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe48.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.20]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SDL9F24519 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:21:09 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:20:45 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [212.140.165.130] From: "Kevin Lowe" To: "Britdisc" Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:23:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2001 13:20:45.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[41B33930:01C0A189] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Feel I've got to jump in now. I liked the responsible attitude show by David Wynd (TD) apologising for what happened, and taking on board the lessons learnt from that. It was a mistake waiting to happen, it happened, learn from it and move on. No need to any heavy handedness from the BUF sanctioning Nottingham Ultimate or those involved. Great! Then we get Dan's email (guy who bought the prizes). Given Paul's (Stig) email, and then Chris White's, I find it amazing that Dan feels he only 'respects his point' but feels no need to apologise. Sure, it was 'only a little fun' but jeopardising someone's career, no matter how unintentional deserves better than that. And as for the patronising "remember kids, winners don't take drugs", I'm just lost for words. The problem here is not that there were juniors and their parents present, but it's about the public perception of this sport. We've had radio, newspaper and TV reporters at tournaments before. We often have members of the public watching games or the presentation at the end. Any one of them could land us in it. And Tom, I disagree with the analogy with alcohol. Getting technical first, it is not illegal for a minor to drink, it is illegal for someone to sell it to them, or to supply them with it. On a practical level, people drink - no laws broken. People under 18 are going to drink, and I've always felt proud that Ultimate tournaments provide a safe environment (but not a coercive one) should someone (of any age) choose to drink. I'd much rather know that a couple of juniors were drinking publicly, knowing what they were drinking, and ready to intervene if necessary, than having them sneak off and swigging from a bottle of vodka in a tent somewhere, scared of getting help if things got out of control for fear of punishment. Look at how many juniors do drink at tournaments, hit 18, and practically become teetotal. Look at how GB juniors handled themselves at Worlds last year. They knew their limits, unlike some of the Swiss, Canadian and US juniors who obviously came from prohibitive environments, had never drunk, and now had the opportunity with little knowledge or experience. Had the prizes been a huge bottle of vodka for the spirit prize (it's been done before) and was due to be given to a junior team, I suspect alarm bells may have been ringing way before the presentation. One final point, Britdisc is a public forum, where anyone can join. We have to be careful of what we say here too. We need public debate like this, but we need to reach sensible consensus, and I don't believe Dan's comments are that helpful. If you don't feel you did anything wrong, then we have a problem that we have to address. Kevin. --- | Kev@cheerful.com Tel: 07968 249437 | The enemy isn't the other side, wherever they draw the line | The enemy is the ruling class that draws the bloody line. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 13:58:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SDuXr05610 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:56:33 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SDuWh05599 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:56:32 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f15.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.15]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SDuRY25071 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:56:31 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:56:16 -0800 Received: from 194.82.103.71 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:56:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.71] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:56:16 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2001 13:56:16.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[383A59B0:01C0A18E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Kevin For your information, the spirit prize was a bottle of Tequila. However, it was given to our second team, none of whom are juniors. Tony Random Fling >Had the prizes been a huge bottle of vodka for the spirit prize (it's been >done before) and was due to be given to a junior team, I suspect alarm >bells >may have been ringing way before the presentation. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 14:13:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SECKo11775 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:12:20 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SECIh11756 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:12:18 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f157.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.157]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SEBJF15484 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:11:44 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:11:02 -0800 Received: from 193.82.207.155 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:11:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.82.207.155] From: "Gareth Goo" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Association Proposal Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:11:02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2001 14:11:02.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[4812FB60:01C0A190] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Errrr....slightly off the point from the whole drugs thing (which wasn't the best thing to do) Was that Ben that put the proposal together?, I've managed to delete the mail that the atachment came on. I have just finished reading the proposal and (for what my opinion's worth) I thought it was well thought out, workable and generally looked like a good idea. I would just like to congratulate the person(s) who put it together and putting so much effort into taking UK Ultimate to another stage. Quick question on the proposal coz I am not sure if I read it right, but, once the individual fee is payed, does that mean that there is no team entry fee for Natioanls, Indoor/outdoor etc? I get that Ross et al will be pretty much unchanged but does the membership fee cover entering the BUF "serious" events, if so, excellent sounds even better than I thought (I think this is what was implied but was trying to ge through it all in lunch), if not, what would the team fee then be? Cheers for the proposal, it was a really good read and everyone should give it at least a good glance. Thanks to Angels for the Brixton Qualifiers and putting it together at such short notice. Tigger - NICE party venue mate!! Gareth - Hammerage _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 15:03:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SF2p204393 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:02:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SF2nh04368 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:02:49 GMT Received: from bluews.com ([193.123.230.61]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f1SF2dY07736 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:02:43 GMT Received: from seer.bws_europe.bluews.com by bluews.com;Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:03:31 GMT id ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:47:19 -0000 Message-ID: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE037109@bluews.com> From: Stephen Giguere To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: re: WINNERS DON'T...blah blah blah Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:56:19 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can you believe I just joined BritDisc just to send this email. I'm so sad. So.... Bongs for prizes. Terrible stuff. It's amazing how long people can talk about this. Some people even resorting to name calling. Poor Dan. The guy meant well...I guess I shouldn't say that exactly. He didn't mean harm. There. I played in the tournament and I know Dan alright. Good guy. Hey the Hackey Sacks for every team was a wicked idea. Give some credit there. So...Dan... I've done some pretty stupid things in my life I don't apologise for. We all have. Anyhow to the point... 1. Bongs for prizes bad... seemed like a fun idea at the time. You could apologise or not. Oh well. Probably good it happened. Now the UK ultimate world is awake to being careful about things like that and I think for the teachers out there, everyone in the community learned a lesson not to promote illegal things in sport even if it is a somewhat underground sport. I think the likelyhood of this happening again anywhere in the UK is pretty much nil. Ask Dan. I'm sure nobody wants the hassle he's been going through. 2. Team names that refer to naughty sexual things etc... I'm surprised nobody has brought up the thought that having a team name of Mange le Foo Foo might offend some women as much as Bongs for prizes might offend people. Mixed references like Random Fling I see no real problem with but Mange le Foo Foo? Do I have any support here from any girls on BritDisc? If not I'll shut up. Some dubious characters out there complaining. In fact I learned how to spell spliff reading the complaints. I did think the person that put a capital 'S' on 'Spliff' when referring to a spliff holder let something a little Freudian slip out there. I'm done. ( 'Good!' you're all saying collectively) Let's all shut up now and not do it again. BUF...you're great... don't change a thing after all...it's supposed to be self refereeing isn't it? Steve ps. Perhaps someday cannibus will be legal and we'll all be able to do some work instead of writing emails. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 15:06:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SF64J05936 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:06:04 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SF62h05918 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:06:02 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SF62Y08371 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:06:02 GMT X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 01 15:05:55 +0000 X-WebMail-UserID: jgoolden Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:05:55 +0000 From: Jack Goolden To: britdisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Message-ID: <3B8CD196@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > No need >to any heavy handedness from the BUF sanctioning Nottingham Ultimate or >those involved. Great! As a founding member of Superfly, I'd just like to straighten this out, there are three teams in Nottingham, Superfly, Fly TNT, and FarFlung. Superfly do not want to be tarred with the same brush, as we had nothing to do with the tournament - we didn't even attend. In fact we don't even go to the same practices as FlyTNT. We have held tournaments in the past, and intend to do so in the future. We may have a reputation already, but we would not have gone as far as to given out bongs as prizes, or 'promoted' drugs in any other way. Jack Chevy (and Superfly) ----------------------- InterMutual Healthcare from Totalise. Peace of mind at an affordable price. Visit http://www.intermutual.com/health/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 15:17:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SFGv510769 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:16:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SFGuh10754 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:16:56 GMT Received: from rw-gw-02.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SFGpY10705 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:16:55 GMT Received: by rw-gw-02.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:16:10 -0800 Message-ID: <45C4368325C2D411898E00062938B3E827F42C@uk-msg-01.broadvision.com> From: "Travers, Neil" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Association Proposal Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:16:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f1SFGuh10756 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > does that mean that there is no team entry > fee for Natioanls, Indoor/outdoor etc? My understanding was that it was only the BUF Tax that would go. i.e. the extra £15 or whatever that you have to pay to the BUF. So you'd still have to pay the team fee (or player fee or whatever). -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 18:05:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SI1h526132 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:01:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SI1ch26084 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:01:38 GMT Received: from mary.csd.plymouth.ac.uk (mary.csd.plymouth.ac.uk [141.163.2.62]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SI1bF06417 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:01:37 GMT Received: from csuf43.csd.plymouth.ac.uk ([141.163.188.1.1297] helo=csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk) by mary.csd.plymouth.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14YAuR-0001mZ-01; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:01:07 +0000 Received: from CSUF43/SpoolDir by csuf43.csd.plym.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 28 Feb 101 18:01:08 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by CSUF43 (Mercury 1.44); 28 Feb 101 18:01:01 +0100 From: "KERRY ANNE MAYBURY" Organization: University of Plymouth To: S.J.kinsey@ex.ac.uk, jwl@cypress.com, Duracell_don@hotmail.com, ru.m@usa.net, hsp298@soton.ac.uk, johnatkinson2000@yahoo.com, paul.meaney@qa.com, Mohawks@hotmail.com, tomrainbow99@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:00:57 GMT Subject: Plymouth Regional CC: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, The teams that have made it into the plymouth regional are: Picnic Picnic Skunks 1 Skunks 2 Skunks 3 Sublime Patriots 1 Sublime Patriots 2 Mohawks 1 Mohawks 2 Uriel 1 Uriel 2 Mr Men Headrush Shrub Blaggers Iveybridge Can those of you needing floor space (Sal,Adrian,Nicole) e-mail me asap with days & numbers, it's going to be tight as many of our players are in halls!! Also can Shrub and Sublime let me know there indoor results over the past year to aid seeding. More details will follow. Oh, Also my contact number has changed it is now 07900412402, my last phone had a soggie death!!! Bye for now, Kerry Picnic Pres. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 19:10:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SJ81P21173 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:08:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJ80h21163 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:08:00 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f254.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.148.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJ7xF09256 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:07:59 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:07:29 -0800 Received: from 194.82.103.45 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:07:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.45] From: "Simon Barry" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Angels Practices At Brixton Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:07:29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2001 19:07:29.0847 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2482C70:01C0A1B9] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Just putting out the general message that A's practices at Brixton Rec Centre are OFF for the whole of March due to the floor being resurfaced. We are trying to arrange an alternative practice but don't have one fixed yet. If you want to know where we end up and when then reply to this and I will keep you on the update list Si x _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 19:38:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SJbrK01123 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJboh01101 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:50 GMT Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJbnY19878 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:50 GMT Received: from modem-52.finasteride.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.180] helo=ben) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14YCPt-0000vB-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:41 +0000 Message-ID: <011d01c0a1be$e85f6d00$b45e883e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: References: Subject: Re: Association Proposal Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:05:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, Thanks for the support and suggestions - keep them coming. Some quick clarifications:- 1. I'm afraid membership will not make the tour/nationals free. However the abolition of tournament tax should represent a saving of around 5 to 10 quid each per year. For your extra money you will get Newsletter, proper website, ISP, Insurance, a vote, better run organisation, etc. Is it worth it? You decide. 2. Ideally student competition would be exempt from the requirement to be members. However if that meant that there was an exodus of students from the big events then we would have a problem (both for particpation and for funding.) Give it a year or two and it won't matter anyway as there will be enough non-students to support it on their own. But we really do need the 'serious' students to join if we're to make it happen at this price this year. 3. Under 16s will not be able to have individual membership. The laws about keeping their details on file are way too scary. Their teachers/youth leaders would be encouraged (and maybe subsidised) to join and they would also continue to have the Association Youth Co-ordinator to look after their interests. Perhaps they could elect the co-ordinator? 4. The Provisional Membership fee is really aimed at foreign guest players and also muppets who don't join in time for the tournament. Novice players trying out the game at an indoor regional aren't going to be charged £10 though we would like them to register so that we can keep in contact. 5. A Web-based version of the newsletter is undoubtedly a good idea. It would provide us with regular content to make our website look fresh. Until such time as Western society becomes truly paperless I think a printed copy is also needed. It would be particularly useful as a publicity tool. It might be possible to charge a lower membership fee to those who elect to receive the newsletter electronically but actually the main cost of the newsletter is in the production not the printing and posting. Not a big issue either way unless you're a tree. 6. In my key recommendations in the 'Getting Things Started' section I neglected to mention the need for a further General Meeting to elect new board members. It would seem sensible to do this before employing the paid staff. Cheers Ben Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 19:38:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SJcMt01273 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:38:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJcHh01248 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:38:17 GMT Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SJcBF25089 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:38:11 GMT Received: from modem-52.finasteride.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.180] helo=ben) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14YCQ4-00011A-00; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:52 +0000 Message-ID: <012001c0a1be$ee987180$b45e883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "Jonathan Palmer" , , , , , "Antony Marsh" , "BRITDISC" References: <074601c0a055$06e35540$7105883e@ben> Subject: Disc Distribution Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:11:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Big thanks to the *six* people who offered to distribute the discs. I'll get Chris to fill you in with more details of what is required and how much work is involved. Forgive us if it takes a week or two to sort out - we have the Tour to deal with too. We might put some sort of order form on the website also. Thanks again Ben BUF Secretary From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 20:02:15 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SK1Ex09042 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:01:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SK1Ch09030 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:01:12 GMT Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (mail11.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.23]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SK17Y21592 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:01:07 GMT Received: from modem-52.finasteride.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.94.180] helo=ben) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14YCmY-00082s-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:01:06 +0000 Message-ID: <014b01c0a1c2$2cfed740$b45e883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Disqualified teams? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:07:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Would a representative from Lurkers please come forward and explain why you have not entered an indoor roster for your team. Already one extended deadline has passed and still there are teams for this coming weekend's regionals missing or incomplete. It has been made abundantly clear in writing and via email why we need the roster and when we need it by. Must we disqualify people to get any action? Again, check that your team is on this list and that there are some players listed against it. ANGELS 18 BABOOM 8 BEARS 17 BLOCK STACK & TWO SMOKING HAMMERS 8 BLUE ARSE FLIES OPEN 20 BLUE KINGS 9 BLUE ON BLUE 2 CHEVRON ACTION FLASH 17 FALLING SKIES 19 FAR FLUNG 36 FAT TED'S ULTIMATE CLUB 7 FEVER 9 FLATBALL PROJECT 28 FUSION ULTIMATE 9 HAMMERAGE 13 HEADRUSH 8 I'LL HAVE A D PLEASE BOB 12 JEDI CHILDREN 11 JESTERS 19 KAMAYA MAYA 12 MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS 9 MILD MANNERED JANITORS 13 MOHAWKS 20 MR MEN 7 MWNCI SEE 11 NORTHERN LIGHTS 6 ODDJOB 8 PHAT 'EDS 30 PICNIC 1 PLAYTHINGS 9 POINT BLANK 8 RANDOM FLING 11 RO-SHAM-BO 22 SHOOTING STARS 39 SHRUB 8 SKUNKS 43 SLIPDISC 14 SNEEEKY'S 19 SPACE MONKEYS 6 STIRLING BLAZE 14 STRANGE BLUE 32 SUBLIME 31 THE GOONIES 6 TRIGGER HAPPY 15 URIEL 6 UWE 7 WHIPLASH 9 YBK 17 YO MAMA 9 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 20:11:28 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SKA1m11895 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:10:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SK9xh11883 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:09:59 GMT Received: from venus.open.ac.uk (venus.open.ac.uk [137.108.143.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SK9wY22324 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:09:59 GMT Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus.open.ac.uk via SMTP Local (Mailer 3.1); Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:09:37 +0000 Received: from 173049.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27246; Wed, 28 Feb 01 20:09:36 GMT Message-Id: <10102282009.AA27246@damson.open.ac.uk> From: Peter Connor To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:09:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: FAO Jack from Chevy X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I think you may have accidentally sent an email to me, instead of to Britdisc about a friend of yours looking for pickup in London, I would have forwarded it but only realised it wasn't going to everyone on britdisc as I hit delete, Pete From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 22:02:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SM0Hl18317 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:00:17 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SM0Fh18307 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:00:15 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f210.hotmail.com [216.32.181.210]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SM0EF01775 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:00:14 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:00:02 -0800 Received: from 62.188.67.168 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:00:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.188.67.168] From: "Martin Cross" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The ongoing drug debate Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:00:01 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2001 22:00:02.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCD23960:01C0A1D1] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, The Ultimate/Drugs debate has been going a fair while now, and it seems that people acknowledge the potential problem with linking Ultimate to drugs, but some want to play the sport and enjoy the sub-culture. In my oppinion we should not be looking to blame the boys in Nottingham for a bit of fun that went a bit wrong, but look to the future and our attitude to drugs in Ultimate. (The tounament was excellent, by the way!) If we expect the sport to grow in this country, we cannot be seen to advocate the use of any illegal substance. People will always smoke Hash whether it is illegal or not, but the sport will be seriously damaged if links continue to be made between illegal drugs and Ultimate. People will always be partial to a smoke, but for the sake of the sport i hope that those who want to smoke at tounaments, do so with the reputation of Ultiamte in mind. We all have a responsibilty to act in a way that doesn't damage the public perception of Ultimate. I don't think that we need an official BUF response on this as (was mentioned earlier) this is likely to be counterproductive in terms of the press response. We should police ourselves and make tournaments an environment to which a junior team and their teachers can come without fear of exposure to drugs. (On this point, it would be naieve to think that most middle teenagers haven't had exposure to hash, because they inevitably have) What players get up to outside the venue is up to them. What is important is that Ultimate remains a friendly sport and that everyone at a competition enjoys it. The actions of some should not prevent others from attending or tarnishing the image of the sport. Cheers, Martin (Block Stack) PS I have no problem with smokers (I have done it myself), it's just the association with the sport that could get us into trouble later as the sport grows. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Feb 28 22:26:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f1SMPRn26548 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:25:27 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SMPPh26534 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:25:25 GMT Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-win.server.ntli.net [62.253.164.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f1SMPPF13704 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:25:25 GMT Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.100.254]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010228222522.FYZB5029.mta5-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:25:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c0a1d7$8b688fa0$fe64fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" To: "Max Keogh" , References: Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:41:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Well said!! Fatboy PS Max, are you treasuring that druid shirt! ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Keogh To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS > hi my [sic] names max. Dan, I like most of us out here, don't know who you > are, but you really do come across as a bit of a twat. > > > i went fucking apeshit. > nice terminology. > > > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I > Red nose day is normally taken in jest, not the promotion of illegal drug > taking when we are trying to the public's perception of Ultimate. > > > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. > We are. > > Surely you can open your eyes wide enough and clear your head sufficiently > to realise that you've made a mistake. A simple uncomplicated apology for > your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot > as we had at first thought. > > Max "yes, I'm Penny's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" Keogh > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 00:32:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f210V8K13820 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:31:08 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f210V7h13811 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:31:07 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f9.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f210V5Y13821 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:31:06 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:30:59 -0800 Received: from 212.38.176.153 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:30:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.38.176.153] From: "Adam Hughes" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, ickle12@hotmail.com Subject: ultimate frisbee injuries - a dissertation Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:30:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2001 00:30:59.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[E31D6B80:01C0A1E6] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Britdisc members I am currently doing a dissertation into players perception of their own injuries from playing ultimate. I have a short questionnaire which I would be grateful if you could fill in and send back to me at injury_dissertation@hotmail.com all information is totally confidential. Thanks Adam Hughes (Ickle) Ultimate Injuries Questionnaire 1. How many years have you been playing Ultimate? _____Years 2. To what level of play have you reached? (Please mark with an ‘X’) Beginner ____ Indoors ____ University ____ Tour ____ Nationals ____ International - World Clubs ____ International - National Team ____ 3. Have you ever played ultimate when already carrying an injury from a previous game? Yes/No ____ 4. Have you had any leg injuries from playing Ultimate in the last 2 years? Yes/No ____ 5. Where were the injury/injuries? (Please mark with an ‘X’) Hip ____ Groin ____ Thigh ____ Knee ____ Shin ____ Calf ____ Ankle ____ Foot ____ 6. Was it an acute injury (happened quickly or suddenly), or was it a chronic injury (developed over a period of time)? Chronic/Acute (Please mark with a ‘C’ or ‘A’ for each injury) Hip ____ Groin ____ Thigh ____ Knee ____ Shin ____ Calf ____ Ankle ____ Foot ____ 7. With regard to the most frequent how did you deal with the injury? (Please mark with an ‘X’) Continued playing – played through the injury ____ Stopped playing for the remainder of the game ____ Stopped playing for the remainder of the tournament ____ Sought medical advice/treatment ____ Other, please specify. ____ 8. What medical treatment did you have for your injury? (Please mark with an ‘X’) Accident and Emergency ____ GP ____ Physiotherapist ____ Podiatrist/Chiropodist ____ Self Treatment ____ Other, (please specify) ____ _____________________________________ 9. Do you warm up before playing? Yes/No ____ 10. Do you warm down after playing? Yes/No ____ 11. How often do you train? _______Times a week/month (Delete as appropriate) 12. Do you play any other sports regularly? Yes/No ____ 13. If yes what other sports do you play? ____________________ _____________________________________________________ 14. How often do you play them? _______Times a week/month (Delete as appropriate) 15. Occupation? _______________________________________ 16. Age _____ Years 17. Sex Male/Female _______ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 09:39:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f219ag117471 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:36:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f219aeh17453 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:36:40 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f219aYF01977 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:36:35 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14YPVh-0004dx-02; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:36:33 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14YPVg-000Fqh-01; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:36:33 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:33:01 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'adam batchelor'" , Max Keogh , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Druids shirt Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:32:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Adam, I've used it for cleaning my bike and the bath. It's good for the bath as it picks up all the scummy bits! :-) Max -----Original Message----- From: adam batchelor [mailto:adam.batchelor@virgin.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:41 PM To: Max Keogh; britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS Well said!! Fatboy PS Max, are you treasuring that druid shirt! ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Keogh To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:38 AM Subject: RE: WINNERS DONT USE DRUGS > hi my [sic] names max. Dan, I like most of us out here, don't know who you > are, but you really do come across as a bit of a twat. > > > i went fucking apeshit. > nice terminology. > > > i think everybody else at the tournament took the > > prize giving in jest, as it was meant to be taken. I > Red nose day is normally taken in jest, not the promotion of illegal drug > taking when we are trying to the public's perception of Ultimate. > > > the ultimate community of nottingham. i and i alone am > > responsible for the prizes, so blame me. > We are. > > Surely you can open your eyes wide enough and clear your head sufficiently > to realise that you've made a mistake. A simple uncomplicated apology for > your actions would have made a lot of people think you weren't such an idiot > as we had at first thought. > > Max "yes, I'm Penny's brother b4 anyone else asks!!!" Keogh > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 14:31:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f21ERpV27401 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:27:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f21ERkh27350 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:27:46 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f21ERfY23003 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:27:45 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <44GDPQQT>; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:25:48 -0000 Message-ID: <69CA03802427D411B5ED00C04F1FFD231F5CAC@EXCHANGE> From: Simon Salt To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: FAO Nancy - Co-Ed Tour Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:20:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0A25B.8218DF39" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A25B.8218DF39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Apologies to Britdisc but I don't have Nancy's email address ... Nancy Are you looking for venues for the Co-ed tour yet, I have a potential venue here in Edinburgh, we have used it before for an open tour venue, the dates that we have are 19/20th May. Can you let me know if this is of any use so that I can let the venue know fairly quickly. cheers Simon Sneeeky's ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A25B.8218DF39 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Apologies to Britdisc but I don't have Nancy's email address ...
 
Nancy
 
Are you looking for venues for the Co-ed tour yet, I have a potential venue here in Edinburgh, we have used it before for an open tour venue, the dates that we have are 19/20th May.
 
Can you let me know if this is of any use so that I can let the venue know fairly quickly.
 
cheers
Simon
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A25B.8218DF39-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 1 15:44:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f21FdxA02987 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:39:59 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f21Fdgh02823 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:39:43 GMT Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com (web11205.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.187]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f21FdXF23643 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:39:33 GMT Message-ID: <20010301153928.54042.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.71.30.232] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:39:28 PST Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:39:28 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stewart Subject: drugs To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk it seems about time for me to make an apology about the whole bong issue. this is aminly to clear my name as people who dont even know me have been dissing me. i know im an arrogant prick, but im certainly not a nasty guy. i think ive been so defensive over the whole issue because it was my idea, and at the time it was the funniest joke in the world. hope i didnt get stig into trouble, and i extend my apologies to chris white - i know that you guys are in somewhat of a difficult postions as teachers. there you go, i said it. and remember kids...... no, probably not so funny this time. dan. fly tnt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 09:57:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f229sD408477 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:54:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f229sBh08464 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:54:11 GMT Received: from mailhub-node1.mailbox.net.uk (calvin.mailbox.net.uk [195.82.125.30]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f229sAF03372 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:54:11 GMT Received: from [195.82.118.153] (helo=[195.82.118.153]) by mailhub-node1.mailbox.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14YmGB-00069M-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:54:03 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 09:47:40 +0000 Subject: re>roster From: Mark Thomas To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk D. 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Prichard From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 10:16:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f22AE3m16554 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:14:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22AE1h16539 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:14:01 GMT Received: from alvis.ntu.ac.uk (alvis.ntu.ac.uk [152.71.0.136]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22ADtF13411 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:13:55 GMT Received: by alvis.ntu.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:13:52 -0000 Message-ID: <6B9350990D99D411993800508BF9C49E1C30F4@zelda.ntu.ac.uk> From: DA000750 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Sheffield Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:13:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Could someone please tell me what is the name of the venue for the sheffield indoor regionals and where abouts it is. Thankyou David FlyTNT From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 10:42:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f22AfVH29179 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:41:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22AfTh29161 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:41:29 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f243.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.243]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22AfSY27235 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:41:29 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:41:07 -0800 Received: from 195.171.219.237 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:41:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.171.219.237] From: "Darroch Reid" To: DA000750@ntu.ac.uk, britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Sheffield Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:41:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 10:41:07.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[49CB0620:01C0A305] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, The Concorde Sports Centre is on Shiregreen Road near J34 of the M1. I've redone the directions and maps for those coming from the South. I hope they help: http://www.fla5h.co.uk/directions.htm Possum p.s. It shouldn't be too difficult to use if you're coming from the North, just miss the bit about the A631. Take the 6th exit after leaving the M1. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 13:56:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f22DqcN03389 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:52:38 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22DqZh03369 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:52:36 GMT Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (mail6.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.212]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22DqSF23367 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:52:35 GMT Received: from modem-79.oxygen.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.7.79] helo=ben) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14Ypyp-0005Oq-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:52:23 +0000 Message-ID: <004801c0a321$010f44c0$4f07883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Bringing the game into disrepute. Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:59:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Bongs as prizes. Whilst this in itself is not illegal - and yes there is a mildly funny side to it - we cannot afford the risk of having the sport associatied with this sort of thing. As someone pointed out there has always been a certain amount of this going on at tournaments. This is in no way unique to the 'culture' of ultimate. However, that does *not* mean that it is acceptable. Because we are such a very small entity, each of us must really be an ambassador for the sport. That means players must think carefully about whether their actions are going to harm the sport they love. Its very easy to think that there isn't a problem when you're surrounded by people who probably haven't got a problem with cannabis or offensive language (or whatever it is.) However, we *must* open our eyes and see how we appear to parents, non-players, junior players, the press, etc. Just because the Nottingham event was not an 'official' BUF tournament does not make it any less potentially damaging. Were we to implement sanctions this would not be an issue. In this instance we will not be taking any action against the Nottingham team or the individual concerned as I doubt they will make the same mistake again. In the forthcoming association we would seek to outlaw the following with potential barring from tournaments or even expulsion as penalties:- A) Openly using illegal substances on the premises at tournaments B) Endanger the safety of others by playing whilst intoxicated (he says trying to avoid the obvious UTI gag) It seems necessary to also include a catch-all:- C) Engaging in any activity which brings the game into disrepute. This could mean, substance abuse (BTW, please-oh-please change your name guys!), offensive language on the pitch, intimidation, offensive team names, dangerous play, etc. Clearly so many of these things are difficult to police and we would most likely have to consider their occurances case by case. Its a shame to have to lay down the law on a game which is supposed to referee itself, so: You're the referee - impose these rules yourself. In case anyone has any doubts about the need for this stance, recall that we lost a fantastic venue at Lydney in Shropshire some years ago due to a team being arrested for possesion. This pales in comparison to what might happen if a tabloid newspaper were to get hold of the story. Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 2 14:54:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f22EqV303719 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:52:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22EqTh03707 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:52:29 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f309.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.184]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f22EqSY24975 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 14:52:29 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:51:58 -0800 Received: from 143.167.1.16 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:51:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [143.167.1.16] From: "Robert Owen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Northern Regionals Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 14:51:58 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2001 14:51:58.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[54F2EE00:01C0A328] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a quick notice to everyone coming to the Northern Regionals. I've borrowed a mobile for the weekend and can be contacted Tonight after 5 and tomorrow morning on 0771 235 9413 alternatively leave a message with one of my housemate on 0114 268 5079 and they'll get in touch. Tonight I am expecting.... Mwnci See Baboom Jedi Space Monkeys + a couple of YBK Discult/I'll have a D Please Bob. I'll be in the Grindstone from 8.45 till closing and I'll see the rest of you tomorrow morning. First Games 9.00 Space Monkeys v YBK 1 Jedi v Mwnci See 9.20 Yo Mama v Disciples Trigger Happy v Fly TNT 9.40 Fat Teds v YBK 2 Chevron v Phat Eds 2 10.00 Jesters v Northern Lights Baboom v Northern Lights 2 Please try to be there on time See you later Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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But, as always, I can use more, if you're interested. The details: OK- first the available dates: April 21-22 April 28-29 May 26-27 June 30-July 1 (follows Tour 3, so not the best dates) July 7-8 (coincides with Europeans, so again not the best dates) July 28-29 (follows tour 4, so not the best dates) any August weekend Nationals in September- (as far as I know, open nationals has not been = set yet, so right now it's any weekend) You need to provide as a minimum- 4 to 6 pitches and showers. Add-ons = like camping, food, and a party are very much appreciated. Expect = tournaments of 12-16 teams, you can go larger if you wish and there is demand. You = will be expected to enforce roster rules, which are going to be a bit more = strict that last year- but this should not be a huge work load. You simply = have to collect rosters and possibly DQ teams without adequate players. Details of roster rule 'imrovements' will be announced on Britdisc soon. There isn't a 'proper' bidding process. First come, first served, as it were. If you have a site, make a provisional booking, email me the = dates and info, and I'll try to get back to you within 24 hours. Then it's a = matter of getting it on the BUF list. That's all! I'm looking to hold at least 3 'tour' events and a nationals, but if you want to have more- cool!! I wish I could play, but the bump will be too big. As such, I can't guarantee that I'll be able to make it to your = event, but I'll do my best if the travel is reasonable. Any other questions, please get back to me. Thanks a bunch for the interest. nancy ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C0A4C2.4BF482A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all-
 
I've already had a great response from = folks=20 wanting to host co-ed events.  But, as always, I can use more, if = you're=20 interested.
 
The details:
 
OK- first the available dates:
April = 21-22
April 28-29
May 26-27
June 30-July 1 (follows Tour 3, so = not the=20 best dates)
July 7-8 (coincides with Europeans, so again not the best = dates)
July 28-29 (follows tour 4, so not the best dates)
any = August=20 weekend
Nationals in September- (as far as I know, open nationals has = not=20 been set
yet, so right now it's any weekend)

You need to = provide as a=20 minimum-  4 to 6 pitches and showers.  Add-ons = like
camping, food,=20 and a party are very much appreciated.  Expect tournaments = of
12-16=20 teams, you can go larger if you wish and there is demand.  You will = be
expected to enforce roster rules, which are going to be a bit more = strict
that last year- but this should not be a huge work load.  = You=20 simply have to
collect rosters and possibly DQ teams without adequate = players.
Details of roster rule 'imrovements' = will be=20 announced on Britdisc soon.
 

There isn't a 'proper' bidding = process. =20 First come, first served, as it
were.  If you have a site, make = a=20 provisional booking, email me the dates
and info, and I'll try to get = back to=20 you within 24 hours.  Then it's a matter
of getting it on the = BUF=20 list.  That's all!

I'm looking to hold at least 3 'tour' = events and=20 a nationals, but if you
want to have more- cool!!  I wish I = could play,=20 but the bump will be too
big.  As such, I can't guarantee that = I'll be=20 able to make it to your event,
but I'll do my best if the travel is=20 reasonable.

Any other questions, please get back to me.  = Thanks a=20 bunch for = the
interest.

nancy

------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C0A4C2.4BF482A0-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 07:35:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f257XRx16118 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:33:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f257XPh16107 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:33:26 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (oe69.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.208]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f257XOY04596 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:33:25 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:33:17 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [195.44.205.177] From: "Lars" To: "britdisc" Subject: midlands regional results Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:31:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2001 07:33:17.0590 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BAAE360:01C0A546] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Thanks to all those who came to Birmingham at the weekend. The results are as follows with the top 4 qualifying for Nationals. 1. Mexican Horse Bandits 2. Blue Arse Flies 1 3. Bears 1 4. Random Fling 5. Kayama Maya 6. Mild Mannered Janitors 7. Whiplash 8. Slipdisc 1 9. Blue Arse Flies 2 10. Block Stack & 2 Smoking Hammers 11. Bears 2 12. Slipdisc 2 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 10:01:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f259nV417619 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:49:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f259nIh17492 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:49:18 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f183.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.183]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f259nFY15848 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:49:16 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:49:08 -0800 Received: from 194.217.129.254 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:49:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.217.129.254] From: "sarah gibbons" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:49:08 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2001 09:49:08.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[86442860:01C0A559] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tough on Drugs, Tough on the causes of Drugs! BUF secretary Ben Ravilious unveiled his tough new stance on drug abuse within the ultimate community today. At a press conference held at his local shop in Leicester, Mr Ravilious claimed that he was prepared to take "draconian measures" against any athletes who wilfully "bring the game into disrepute." "Quite frankly, some of these things that ultimate players get up to at tournaments is outrageous! I once saw a player leaving an off-licence with four whole cans of Stella! This is a serious sport for serious people, we'll have no trouble!" Mr Ravilious exclaimed, before resuming his online game of Connect-4 with his Peruvian penpal. Some of the more radical members of the community are shocked by the BUF hardman's tough stance. "It's an open cry of fascism," decried one anonymous protestor, from an unknown location in Nottingham. "Who the f*ck to the BUF think they f**king are? Ann F**cking Widdecombe?" The Society for the Promotion of Naked Ultimate also expressed some concerns. In an official statement to the press, a representative stated that while they had no problems with certain restrictions on prizes, they had reservations about some of the more broad-reaching measures. "Indeed, last year, at a tournament we hosted, we were going to present each team with a king-size dildo. But after careful consideration, we realised that we might offend the highly active ultimate-playing Eunuch community, and some of britain's male players with deeper psychological insecurities." The restrictions imposed upon any game of naked ultimate by a British citizen are explicit. All nude players are now required apply for a permit 6 months before the game takes place. Permits will not be granted to anyone with a criminal record or with an unduly large member (size to be decided by two-thirds majority of a committee of Druid players with no less than 20 years playing experience each) Similar limitations are to be applied to anyone wishing to roll a spliff in a discraft 175. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 12:45:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25Cetf28235 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:40:55 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25Cesh28223 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:40:54 GMT Received: from gcexchange.grantham.ac.uk ([194.83.4.254]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25CerY14939 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:40:53 GMT Message-Id: <200103051240.f25CerY14939@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> From: "Paul Unwin (GC_11_PO)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, sarah gibbons Subject: RE: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:39:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sarah Do you work? If you do, you may understand the need for a job. The Bong incident in Nottingham put my job at risk. I dont find that funny! The BUF have acted to make sure it does not happen again. If you want a debate about whether we should have such a "bringing the game into disrepute" clause in the BUA proposal, then make your point. We are waiting. Stig (unamused) ---------- From: sarah gibbons To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs Date: 05 March 2001 09:49 Tough on Drugs, Tough on the causes of Drugs! BUF secretary Ben Ravilious unveiled his tough new stance on drug abuse within the ultimate community today. At a press conference held at his local shop in Leicester, Mr Ravilious claimed that he was prepared to take "draconian measures" against any athletes who wilfully "bring the game into disrepute." "Quite frankly, some of these things that ultimate players get up to at tournaments is outrageous! I once saw a player leaving an off-licence with four whole cans of Stella! This is a serious sport for serious people, we'll have no trouble!" Mr Ravilious exclaimed, before resuming his online game of Connect-4 with his Peruvian penpal. Some of the more radical members of the community are shocked by the BUF hardman's tough stance. "It's an open cry of fascism," decried one anonymous protestor, from an unknown location in Nottingham. "Who the f*ck to the BUF think they f**king are? Ann F**cking Widdecombe?" The Society for the Promotion of Naked Ultimate also expressed some concerns. In an official statement to the press, a representative stated that while they had no problems with certain restrictions on prizes, they had reservations about some of the more broad-reaching measures. "Indeed, last year, at a tournament we hosted, we were going to present each team with a king-size dildo. But after careful consideration, we realised that we might offend the highly active ultimate-playing Eunuch community, and some of britain's male players with deeper psychological insecurities." The restrictions imposed upon any game of naked ultimate by a British citizen are explicit. All nude players are now required apply for a permit 6 months before the game takes place. Permits will not be granted to anyone with a criminal record or with an unduly large member (size to be decided by two-thirds majority of a committee of Druid players with no less than 20 years playing experience each) Similar limitations are to be applied to anyone wishing to roll a spliff in a discraft 175. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 12:49:39 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25CkPr01351 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:46:25 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25CkMh01338 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:46:22 GMT Received: from mps1.leeds.ac.uk (mps1.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.16.8]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25CkLY17412 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:46:21 GMT Received: from lucs-03.novell.leeds.ac.uk (lucs-h13-atm.leeds.ac.uk [129.11.5.13]) by mps1.leeds.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25Ck9D08064; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:46:09 GMT Received: from LUCS-H13/SpoolDir by lucs-03.novell.leeds.ac.uk (Mercury 1.47); 5 Mar 01 12:49:14 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by LUCS-H13 (Mercury 1.47); 5 Mar 01 12:49:09 GMT0BST From: "Rich Hims" Organization: University of Leeds To: "sarah gibbons" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:48:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs Reply-to: rich8@mail.com Message-ID: <3AA38B25.4647.1904790@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Initial disclaimer: Please don't come back to me with the "it was a light-hearted way of voicing my criticism" argument - we've all heard that before, and this kind of attitude does nothing to further the kind of sensible debate that is needed on either the current issue of drugs, or any of the other important debates that BritDisc is used for. Ben's post about "bringing the game into disrepute" boils down quite sensibly to the fact that the sport is self-refereeing. He quite clearly implies that he wouldn't want to police what should really be common sense to most people. Ben works damn hard [along with others who have received this type of unnecessary and hurtful criticism in the past] to keep Ultimate in this country alive and well. He is acting in the sport's best interests to ensure that we don't suffer horrendously from adverse publicity. Whilst I'm sure he'd welcome intelligent discussion on the issue, quoting "anonymous protestors" in a banal and immature post like yours is a long way from either intelligent or discussion. Although I'm loathe to enter the ranks of the "we've all had smoked at some time in the past, but we have a public image to consider" brigade [it's a very half-hearted response, in my opinion], the fact remains that we _do_ have a public image to consider. Surely we're all aware that the representation of the truth is often more important than the truth itself. If we want Ultimate to be a serious, competitive, enjoyable sport that continues to grow in the country, then we all need to take an adult attitude towards our part in that sport and how we choose to represent ourselves as a community. As Ben suggested, if Ultimate could be seen as a self-refereeing sport both on and off the pitch, it would do us the world of good. I dislike having to repeat what others have said many times in the past, but when we get the same kind of ill-considered and unhelpful comments on Britdisc, it appears that people do need reminding that sensible discussion will bring us all nearer a golden mean, but that jibes and insults and puerile sarcasm gets us nowhere and instead only serves to irritate those who do so much for the game that we all claim to love. Final Disclaimer: I realise that at time this e-mail meanders a little, but to make it more concise would involved tying in the thread of "let's all talk about where we want Ultimate to be in 10 years time", and that's a debate that I don't want to claim responsibility for starting yet again. On 5 Mar 2001, at 9:49, sarah gibbons wrote: > Tough on Drugs, Tough on the causes of Drugs! > BUF secretary Ben Ravilious unveiled his tough new stance on drug > abuse within the ultimate community today. At a press conference held > at his local shop in Leicester, Mr Ravilious claimed that he was > prepared to take "draconian measures" against any athletes who > wilfully "bring the game into disrepute." > > "Quite frankly, some of these things that ultimate players get up to > at tournaments is outrageous! I once saw a player leaving an > off-licence with four whole cans of Stella! This is a serious sport > for serious people, we'll have no trouble!" Mr Ravilious exclaimed, > before resuming his online game of Connect-4 with his Peruvian penpal. > > Some of the more radical members of the community are shocked by the > BUF hardman's tough stance. "It's an open cry of fascism," decried one > anonymous protestor, from an unknown location in Nottingham. "Who the > f*ck to the BUF think they f**king are? Ann F**cking Widdecombe?" > > The Society for the Promotion of Naked Ultimate also expressed some > concerns. In an official statement to the press, a representative > stated that while they had no problems with certain restrictions on > prizes, they had reservations about some of the more broad-reaching > measures. "Indeed, last year, at a tournament we hosted, we were going > to present each team with a king-size dildo. But after careful > consideration, we realised that we might offend the highly active > ultimate-playing Eunuch community, and some of britain's male players > with deeper psychological insecurities." > > The restrictions imposed upon any game of naked ultimate by a British > citizen are explicit. All nude players are now required apply for a > permit 6 months before the game takes place. Permits will not be > granted to anyone with a criminal record or with an unduly large > member (size to be decided by two-thirds majority of a committee of > Druid players with no less than 20 years playing experience each) > Similar limitations are to be applied to anyone wishing to roll a > spliff in a discraft 175. -- Rich, Jedi rich8@mail.com Tel: 07968 248529 www.leedsjedi.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 13:49:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25Dk2103355 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:46:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25Dk1h03345 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:46:01 GMT Received: from mail.dmt.co.uk (mail.dmt.co.uk [193.130.13.212]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f25DjrY09111 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:45:58 GMT Received: From DMTNT.DMT.CO.UK (192.168.10.2[192.168.10.2 port:2978]) by mail.dmt.co.uk Mail essentials (server 2.422) with SMTP id: <37@mail.dmt.co.uk> for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 1:42:49 PM +0000 smtpmailfrom Received: by dmtnt.dmtdomain with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:02:09 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Meaney To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:02:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, do people not feel that while any public expression of the apparent condoning of the use of illegal substances is detrimental to our game, there is little point in trying to enforce restrictive measures to the behaviour of the individual. A few ideas - in professional sports, there have been long associations with alcohol and drugs (witness rugby and cricket respectively), and yet when we hear of some famous cricketer rolling a joint before going on, or some rugby team drunk out of their skulls destroying a bar, it's all reluctantly accepted and the game seems to trundle on (in fact it's par for the course that if you are a rugby player, thou shall drink unfeasible quanitities of beer. Or that's my perception of it.). I feel that it is the general perception of Ultimate as a sport, rather than any inherent associations, that should be the focus here, not wether some people wish to enjoy different forms of recreation. The fact that most people are introduced to ultimate at university is a major problem and I applaud all the efforts of people to establish a strong base of ultimate oat the school level. I feel that is how we will change the public perception of our game. The more is is played in schools the more it becomes more acceptable. However this leads into a circular argument in that Stig and other likeminded individuals are jepoardising their jobs, the range of tournaments his team can attend and the development of school ultimate if there is apparent public condoning of drug use by TD's - no matter how lightheared or innocent. (I remember a Student Outdoor Nationals not too long ago, where the players pack included a packet of Rizlas. I wonder why.....) Whilst I fully agree with Stig that any *public* support for drug use (bongs etc) must be avoided at all costs, it seems a bit unrealistic to stop individuals discretley 'nipping outside...' and penalise teams accordingly IIRC, the reason we lost lydney was that someone living in the area thought that an illegal rave was going on and phoned the police. Surely, it could be argued, that a better promotion of the event in the local area may have prevented suspicions being aroused? Under current legislation somking cannabis is illegal. Am I right in thinking that current perception is that Ultimate is played by a bunch of stoners? Surely then, it should be the attitude of the BUF/ BUA that any PUBLIC facet of the game (media coverage, any potential interaction with members of the public - finals, prizegiving, parties) must display the image that we all desire should be promoted, a fast, atheltic, healthy, fun game with SOTG at it's heart. Paul (really trying to be nice - honest) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 15:18:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25FEek22640 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:14:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25FEch22620 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:14:38 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25FEZF23235 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:14:36 GMT Received: from ntintel3 (ntintel3.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.6]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA02552 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:15:48 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200103051515.PAA02552@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:10:47 "GMT" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 3.0 (SMTP480C3F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f25FEch22621 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - WOMEN'S STUDENT INDOORS Location: Aberystwyth - [Indoor Ultimate] The first women's student indoors, and hopefully not the last! 12 slots available, let's fill them up and enjoy it! http://www.mwncisee.co.uk/womens2001/ Tim Blair 69 Pentre Jane Morgan, Penglais, Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, SY23 3TE Main Email: tim@mwncisee.co.uk Home Phone: 01970 615077 ____________________________________________________________ 10 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR REGIONALS Location: Everywhere - [Indoor Ultimate] Specific venues and time to be confirmed Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2001 (NB CHANGE OF DATE!) Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1 Location: Bristol - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 12 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 2 Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 19 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate] Simon Salt Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - CO-ED TOUR Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate] CO-ED TOUR 16 TEAMS ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS A SHARMA 42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: N/A Mobile: N/A ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate] Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details Ian Cuddihy 1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com Home Phone: +3535652871 Mobile: +447957667837 ____________________________________________________________ 23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3 Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001 Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate] Check out the web site muppet http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html Jon Copeland 47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com Home Phone: 07899 996686 Work Phone: 01235 827295 ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate] Details to be announced nearer the time Clifford Bottomley 11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com Home Phone: 0208-542-4966 Work Phone: 01932-861461 Mobile: 0777-5917169 Fax: 01932-576033 ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4 Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 15:29:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25FRpv00765 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:27:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25EnZh09373 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:49:35 GMT Received: from counter.tesco.net (counter.btinternet.com [194.73.73.69]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25EnSF11253 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:49:30 GMT Received: from [212.140.69.119] (helo=Nancy) by counter.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14ZwId-0001P5-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:49:23 +0000 Message-ID: <006e01c0a582$d3fbcd00$77458cd4@Stebbing> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" Subject: Mixed series dates news Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:43:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C0A582.AF8C1A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C0A582.AF8C1A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the pleasure of announcing the the dates for the first few = confirmed Mixed Series Events: May 19-20: Edinburgh June 9-10: Leeds Dates that are being worked on right now (these are NOT definite yet!): May 26-27: Cambridge June 30-July 31: Oxford?????? August 25-26: Nottingham As with last year, teams only need to attend enough events to earn = enough qualifying points for Nationals. You could do it at one = tournament! More news to follow.... nancy ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C0A582.AF8C1A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have the pleasure of announcing the = the dates for=20 the first few confirmed Mixed Series Events:
 
May 19-20:   = Edinburgh
June 9-10:   = Leeds
 
 
Dates that are being worked on right = now (these are=20 NOT definite yet!):
 
May 26-27:  Cambridge
June 30-July 31:  =20 Oxford??????
August 25-26:  = Nottingham
 
 
 
 
As with last year, teams only need to = attend enough=20 events to earn enough qualifying points for Nationals.  You could = do it at=20 one tournament!
 
More news to follow....
nancy
------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C0A582.AF8C1A60-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 19:54:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25GhJt17914 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:43:19 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25G7Oh24479 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:07:24 GMT Received: from mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (mail.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.1]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25G7BY09586 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:07:12 GMT Received: from tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:root@tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk [163.1.242.206]) by mail.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f25G5nI23313 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:05:50 GMT Received: from localhost (booth@localhost) by tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA28505 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:05:49 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: tashtego.atm.ox.ac.uk: booth owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:05:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Ben Booth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've followed the debate on britdisc leading on from the Nottingham tournament with interest. In what other sport would you get such a frank discussion about things that effect our sport? I think that the whole process has been a complete success (admittedly I'm not one of the BUF official that gets mauled - and I hope that Ben, Chris and Ian amongst others know that vast majority support what they do). Because of the issues raised by stig and chris, what ever we now do as individuals I think we are far more aware of the wider impact to the ultimate community of our actions. I don't see the prize giving at Nottingham being reproduced again. I'm not so worried about Sarah's news piece. Those of us who are still concerned that the messsage has still to be taken on - I think it has. While I am in full agreement with Stig on the issue of bongs as prizes, I am haisitant to step towards official regulation to do this. The line has to be drawn, but while we still can, I hope that the line can be drawn in forums like britdisc. It is far more likely that the rank and file ultimate players will govern their own behaviour because they are aware of the possible impacts than because there is an official clause in the association proposal. Ben Hoofers/OW Standard Disclaimers(/problems with the above statements) (I apprechiate that this is a benifit from the small size of the sport at the moment that we can still use britdisc in such a way and that we can't expect this to continue as the sport grows). From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 19:55:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25JGt803299 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:16:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25Gc7h14485 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:38:07 GMT Received: from prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk (prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.76.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25Gc3F26461 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:38:04 GMT Received: from eels01.ee.surrey.ac.uk ([131.227.74.11] ident=exim) by prue.eim.surrey.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Zxzf-000022-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:37:55 +0000 Received: from ma81lm (helo=localhost) by eels01.ee.surrey.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #5) id 14Zxza-0003Zl-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:37:50 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:37:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Luke Marsh X-Sender: ma81lm@eels01.ee.surrey.ac.uk cc: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Subject: Surrey tournament In-Reply-To: <200102192347.XAA67964@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanner: exiscan *14Zxzf-000022-00*omoHGgzFuU2* Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, we're looking for a couple of teams for our indoor tournament on Sunday 18th March. It is an eight team tournament with all teams guaranteed five 15 minute games. Cost is 20 pounds per team. Email me back if anyone is interested. Lucas From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 20:27:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25KQ2O13611 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:26:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25KQ0c13602 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:26:00 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25KPjY17060 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:25:46 GMT Received: from modem-231.eglantine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.174.231] helo=v2n6k5) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14a1Y6-0007lK-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 20:25:43 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c0a5b2$a05bb3e0$e7ae883e@v2n6k5> From: "Chris White" To: References: Subject: Re: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:26:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With Stig on this one I'm afraid Sarah. While you (and others) may find your comments amusing I'm sure it's possible to put your views in a more constructive way. I'm sure that Ben and any others are more than willing to listen to views providing they are constructive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "sarah gibbons" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: Tough on drugs, tough on the causes of drugs > Tough on Drugs, Tough on the causes of Drugs! > BUF secretary Ben Ravilious unveiled his tough new stance on drug abuse > within the ultimate community today. At a press conference held at his local > shop in Leicester, Mr Ravilious claimed that he was prepared to take > "draconian measures" against any athletes who wilfully "bring the game into > disrepute." > > "Quite frankly, some of these things that ultimate players get up to at > tournaments is outrageous! I once saw a player leaving an off-licence with > four whole cans of Stella! This is a serious sport for serious people, we'll > have no trouble!" Mr Ravilious exclaimed, before resuming his online game of > Connect-4 with his Peruvian penpal. > > Some of the more radical members of the community are shocked by the BUF > hardman's tough stance. "It's an open cry of fascism," decried one anonymous > protestor, from an unknown location in Nottingham. "Who the f*ck to the BUF > think they f**king are? Ann F**cking Widdecombe?" > > The Society for the Promotion of Naked Ultimate also expressed some > concerns. In an official statement to the press, a representative stated > that while they had no problems with certain restrictions on prizes, they > had reservations about some of the more broad-reaching measures. "Indeed, > last year, at a tournament we hosted, we were going to present each team > with a king-size dildo. But after careful consideration, we realised that we > might offend the highly active ultimate-playing Eunuch community, and some > of britain's male players with deeper psychological insecurities." > > The restrictions imposed upon any game of naked ultimate by a British > citizen are explicit. All nude players are now required apply for a permit > 6 months before the game takes place. Permits will not be granted to anyone > with a criminal record or with an unduly large member (size to be decided by > two-thirds majority of a committee of Druid players with no less than 20 > years playing experience each) Similar limitations are to be applied to > anyone wishing to roll a spliff in a discraft 175. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 5 20:28:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f25KR1914123 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:27:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25HH7h25170 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:17:07 GMT Received: from mail5.svr.pol.co.uk (mail5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.20]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25HH5Y07828 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:17:05 GMT Received: from modem-169.antimony.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.42.169] helo=pentiumii) by mail5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14ZybL-0001Lv-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:16:51 +0000 From: "Juan Carlos Cabrejas" To: Subject: Spanish players Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:13:11 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0A597.8F32F4E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0A597.8F32F4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I know this is of interest for just a few players, but otherwise it is quite difficult to find them. Are there any other Spanish players around in UK? I´m sure there must be some and I´m interested in finding them. Do you know of any? If so, e-mail me back and remember not to reply to britdisc, but to my home account. 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Yo Mama 2. Chevron Action Flash 3. Fat Ted's Ultimate Club 4. Jedi 5. Phat Eds 1 6. OddJOB 7. Space Monkeys 8. Baboom 9. Northern Lights 1 ( Plate Winners ) 10. Discult 11. Point Blank 12. Trigger Happy 13. Fly TNT 14. YBK 1 15. Mwnci See 16. Northern Lights 2 ( Spirit Winners ) 17. Jesters ( Spoon Winners ) 18. YBK 2 19. Phat Eds 2 20. Disciples A Lost property list will be up soon. Rob _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 13:59:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f26Dnw927014 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:49:58 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f26Dntc26987 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:49:55 GMT Received: from web11604.mail.yahoo.com (web11604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.56]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f26DnsF02970 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:49:55 GMT Message-ID: <20010306134943.83347.qmail@web11604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.234.4.1] by web11604.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 05:49:43 PST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Brooks Subject: RE: TOG, TOTCOD To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > if you are a rugby > player, thou shall drink > unfeasible quanitities of beer. Yes. > The fact > that most people are introduced to ultimate at > university is a major problem Apologies - we really should stop trying to promote the sport. > (really trying to be nice - honest) Ditto! jon aka kosovo Northern Lights, and many rugby teams in my time __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 14:36:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f26EYGu20691 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:34:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f26EYBc20648 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:34:12 GMT Received: from mimesweeper.bookham.com (mail.bookham.co.uk [195.166.17.164]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f26EYAF21654 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:34:10 GMT Received: from alpha.bookham.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.bookham.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:30:34 +0000 Received: by alpha.bookham.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1RXHRQ3F>; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:32:20 -0000 Message-ID: <86F477BCF025D411912F00508BACC30A236EC4@alpha.bookham.com> From: Jon Copeland To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Cc: "Oxford Ultimate (E-mail)" , "Team Shark (E-mail)" Subject: RE: A RumouR Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:32:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tournament - 7 - 8 July 2001 Ultimate Hacky Volley Tequila You know who ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 6 14:59:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f26EunN04887 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:56:49 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f26Eukc04855 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:56:46 GMT Received: from bakery.tesco.net ([194.73.73.174]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f26EugF01374 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:56:42 GMT Received: from [212.140.74.213] (helo=Nancy) by bakery.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14aItC-00020R-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:56:38 +0000 Message-ID: <003e01c0a64c$fff2c740$d54a8cd4@Stebbing> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" References: <006e01c0a582$d3fbcd00$77458cd4@Stebbing> Subject: Re: Mixed series dates news Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:48:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry all- but it's a proven fac tthat you lose brain cells when pregnant. So- here's how that probable June tournament should have looked: NOT > June 30-July 31: Oxford?????? but June 30-July1: Birmingham Sorry for the confusion- well, I was confused. I'm sure the rest of you figured it out. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 7 12:26:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f27CJuc08280 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:19:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f27CJrv08256 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:19:54 GMT Received: from mimesweeper.bookham.com (mail.bookham.co.uk [195.166.17.164]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f27CJnL11762 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:19:53 GMT Received: from alpha.bookham.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.bookham.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:15:57 +0000 Received: by alpha.bookham.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1RXHRS9R>; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:17:43 -0000 Message-ID: <86F477BCF025D411912F00508BACC30A236ED2@alpha.bookham.com> From: Jon Copeland To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Cc: "Team Shark (E-mail)" , "Oxford Ultimate (E-mail)" Subject: RE: I heard a RumouR Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:17:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This Rumour can be checked out at http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html Team Shark ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 00:42:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f280civ03029 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:44 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f280cfv02996 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:41 GMT Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f280cQL27804 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:26 GMT Received: from phidelta.demon.co.uk ([158.152.248.177]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14aoRi-0006Vj-0C for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:24 +0000 Message-ID: <0nOU1JAApsp6Ew8V@phidelta.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:54:40 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Layout Dreams Subject: FAO: Indoor Nationals Entrants MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f280cgv02999 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Further to Chris Hughes' letter containing the following info: > Teams that qualify for Nationals will be required to pay the entry to > their entry fee no later than 19th March 2001. Should a team not pay > then they will forfeit their slot at nationals, which will be offered > to the next highest non-qualifying team. Any team that requires an > invoice to pay can pay by personal cheque and exchange this later for > a club or counter cheque. In return teams will receive an information > pack on the Nationals event. GBP 95.00 cheques, payable to LAYOUT DREAMS, should be sent to: Layout Dreams c/o Wayne Retter 8 Avon House Rutland Close Redhill Surrey RH1 1EH and send me an email to let me know it's on the way. (Dora, Chris says he's got your cheque, thanks!) > National Championships > Location; Cheltenham Recreation Centre > Dates; 24th & 25th March > Cost; £95.00 - made payable to Layout Dreams > Tournament Director; Layout Dreams > Contacts; Layout Dreams: layoutdreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk > Chris Hughes: cjhughes@talk21.com / 01452-380529 > Max number of teams; 20 > Information; Three pitches for most of the weekend. Teams can be > accommodated, but there are a large number of B&B's in Cheltenham (I > hope to have the arts centre again as a cheap option). Once again we > shall be upsetting the locals in the Fish and Fiddle. Swimming pool, > squash courts, bar and food all available on site. > Closing date; 19th March (see list of points) addendum: There will be 24 teams at Nationals. the info pack will contain some info on accommodation, etc, but in the meantime, you could check out http://www.cheltenham.gov.uk/ for the Racecourse and other B+Bs Wayne ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Retter Layout Dreams - Indoor Nationals 2001 TD layoutdreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 00:42:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f280cqD03075 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:52 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f280cpv03063 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:51 GMT Received: from t21mta01-app.talk21.com (mta01.talk21.com [62.172.192.171]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f280coL27972 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:38:50 GMT Received: from host213-120-23-75.host.btclick.com ([213.120.15.97]) by t21mta01-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010308003712.LQEI310.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@host213-120-23-75.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:37:12 +0000 Received: by host213-120-23-75.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C0A768.5B906140@host213-120-23-75.host.btclick.com>; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:40:22 -0000 Message-ID: <01C0A768.5B906140@host213-120-23-75.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Steven Hunter'" Cc: "'Britdisc'" Subject: RE: Tour 2001 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:39:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f280cpv03066 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To enter the events you need to make sure that you add your team details to the BUF mail list. See the BUF website at www.ultimateweb.co.uk/BUF to set this up. Details should be going soon (I've been promising that for weeks now) The events are T1 - Bristol - April 7/8 T2 - Banbury - May 12/13 T3 - Southampton - June 23/24 T4 - Leeds - July 21/22 Chris DoC ---------- From: Steven Hunter[SMTP:steve_ninety@hotmail.com] Sent: 07 March 2001 22:59 To: cjhughes@talk21.com Subject: Tour 2001 <> From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 13:51:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f28Dja024833 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:45:36 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28DjYv24761 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:45:34 GMT Received: from mimesweeper.bookham.com (mail.bookham.co.uk [195.166.17.164]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28DjJL09466 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:45:33 GMT Received: from alpha.bookham.com (unverified) by mimesweeper.bookham.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:41:00 +0000 Received: by alpha.bookham.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <1RXHRW36>; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:42:47 -0000 Message-ID: <86F477BCF025D411912F00508BACC30A236EDF@alpha.bookham.com> From: Jon Copeland To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Cc: "Team Shark (E-mail)" , "Oxford Ultimate (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Its true its a RumouR therefore it must be a true RumouR Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:42:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All RumouR2001 is going to be bigger and better than RumouR2000. This year we have better pitches (same site), more music, more hacky volley with the same package as last year. As last year registration is first come first serve, once we have opened it. Visit our web site for more details and to get on the RumouR e-mailing list. People on this list will get "E"vited three weeks before the same "E"vite goes out on Britdisc. This tournament will be happening on the weekend of the 7,8th July. Jon Copeland Team Shark http://www.ummedia.com/shark/ http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/ ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 17:58:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f28Hqk922448 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:52:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28Hqhv22379 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:52:43 GMT Received: from rw-gw-02.BroadVision.com (bv200.broadvision.com [198.211.204.200] (may be forged)) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28HqgL03235 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:52:43 GMT Received: by rw-gw-02.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:51:59 -0800 Message-ID: <45C4368325C2D411898E00062938B3E827F46C@UK-MSG-01> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "'fluiddruids@yahoogroups.com'" Cc: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: [fluiddruids] Fw: Virus Warning - HOAX. Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:52:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk http://vmyths.com/hoax.cfm?id=222&page=3 A Virtual Card for You virus A typical variation of the original Good Times hoax virus alert (see related link). It claims your computer will suffer a horrible death if you read "a virtual card for you" with your eyeballs. Fact: you just read "a virtual card for you" with your eyeballs, but your computer didn't self-destruct. Need we say more? One variant of this hoax claims "Microsoft and McAfee" announced the alert, and it's "THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE OF ALL TIMES!!!!", and "THERE IS STILL NOT DEVELOPED A VACCINE!!!!" Naturally, it urges you to "PLEASE, DISTRIBUTE TO THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE!!!!" --11/13/00 http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/virtual.card.hoax.html Description The following message has been sent out by email. It is a hoax. This "virus" does not exist. The hoax message includes the following "warning": WARNING DO NOT OPEN THE VIRTUAL CARD. There is a virus spreading through the lists of roots web. One of the was is gets around the filters and other protection devices that roots web has is through ruses like this. It's a virus that mails itself using names it pickup up from the computers it gets into. Do Not Trust this simply because it mentions Cynthia's name. It is also using her e-mail address. This is one of those viruses Cynthia has been warning us about. I've been seeing it on other lists that I belong to. I can't type the name of the virus. According to the semantic sight just typing certain word will send this insidious thing along to others. I've seen it happen once tonight in a message I sent to another list. I am not going to put that on this list. I've already updated my anti virus program since then, but I'm not going to take the chance. There are two ways this virus is being spread. One is through a specific web address, the other is through a greeting card invitation like this one. The web address appears as a hyper link. Another of the things that is happening is people are getting e-mails sent to them from themselves. These e-mails contain the virus. Please ignore any messages regarding this "hoax" and do not pass on any messages regarding it. Passing on messages about this hoax serves only to further propagate it. Write-up by: Motoaki Yamamura Dec 28, 1999 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 8 22:13:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f28M9a814947 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:09:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28M9Zv14901 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:09:35 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.57]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f28M9Yg24681 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:09:34 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:08:48 -0800 Received: from 212.67.111.149 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:08:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.67.111.149] From: "Kerry maybury" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tourney Directions ect. Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 22:08:48 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2001 22:08:48.0849 (UTC) FILETIME=[59FA2410:01C0A81C] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk
Hi guy’s:
Ok, here’s the info pack for the Plymouth tourney including maps. I’m not going to bore you all with directions, if you follow the signs for Plymouth you should be ok. Just one hint if you’ve passed Exeter and you’re not on the A38, your doing something wrong!!! The captains meeting will start at 8.45am on Saturday morning and the first game at 9am.
For those of you arriving on Friday night we will be meeting in The Roundabout (it’s a scream pub) on North Hill opposite uni buildings. We will be in there from 8.30pm until closing, if you’re arriving outside of these hours or get lost you can contact me (Kerry) on 07900412402. The phone will be on all Friday night and Saturday morning as well.
As far as Saturday night goes it will be a night of wild drinking shenanigans. We will be meeting up in The Roundabout at about 9pm and then moving on to the Union between 10 and 10.30. The union will cost 50p and tickets will be on sale all day Saturday. The dress code is pretty casual, fancy dress is Hawian beach style, so if you’re that way inclined why not?!
I think that’s about it, can’t wait to see you all for what promises to be an excellent weekend.
Kerry Maybury
T.D. / Picnic Pres.

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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 12:26:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f29CLY816737 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:21:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f29CLVv16661 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:21:31 GMT Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f29CLPg28772 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:21:26 GMT Received: from ally.excite.com ([199.172.148.156]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010309122116.ZILQ28640.ewey.excite.com@ally.excite.com> for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:21:16 -0800 Message-ID: <17797421.984140476362.JavaMail.imail@ally.excite.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:21:16 -0800 (PST) From: gynga@excite.com To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: practice in London? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 62.140.196.133 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sorry to bother everyone else, Can anyone tell me if there's a mixed or womens open practice this w/end in London? If so, where & when is it. thanks Fiona _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 9 13:28:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f29DOuB11282 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:24:56 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f29CEBv02618 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:14:12 GMT Received: from mailer2.lut.ac.uk (IDENT:root@mailer2.lut.ac.uk [158.125.1.206]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f29CDZL10334 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:13:40 GMT Received: from [158.125.1.117] (helo=studentpop1.lboro.ac.uk ident=root) by mailer2.lut.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 14bLm1-0006ug-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:13:33 +0000 Received: from elchb by studentpop1.lboro.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14bLm1-0003Lx-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:13:33 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010309121323.00a65d70@student-mailin.lboro.ac.uk> X-Sender: elchb@student-mailin.lboro.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:13:23 +0000 To: BritDisc From: Carl Bayley Subject: red practice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Lboro-Filtered: mailer2.lut.ac.uk, Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:13:33 +0000 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone pick up my loughborough training top and abercrombie cap last night?? If you did could you bring it to the next practice on thurs, also could you let me know if you have it. Cheers, Carl (Lboro) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 10 02:14:48 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2A2AGm11627 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:10:16 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2A1cgv09640 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 01:38:43 GMT Received: from netmail.co.uk (netmail.netmail.co.uk [194.205.11.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f29N0EL03284 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:00:19 GMT Received: from PROXY2 (PROXY2 [194.205.11.21]) by netmail.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.afxy) with ESMTP id na610233 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 22:58:47 +0000 Received: from ben [218.99.151.24] by vac.uk.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 18:21:46 +0000 From: "Ben Rolfe" To: Subject: Ultimate & Britdisc - enjoyable, competitive and presentable Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:21:18 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c0a8c5$bce63100$189763da@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk "people do need reminding that sensible discussion will bring us all nearer a golden mean, but that jibes and insults and puerile sarcasm gets us nowhere and instead only serves to irritate those who do so much for the game that we all claim to love." The fabled Golden mean and puerile sarcasm all in the same sentence? Someone might need reminding this is Britdisc and not a lecture hall, can't it be fun at times (even/esp when under stress)? And why claim - I think we all love the sport don't we? "If we want Ultimate to be a serious, competitive, enjoyable sport that continues to grow in the country" how about just enjoyable and competitive? FYI seriousness does not equate to professionalism. *Professionalism is about money and conduct; hence the need for the BUA*: as well as rules of conduct for players AND TDs, how about some prize money for the tour and/or nationals in 2002 and see what that could do by way of Sponsorship-Publicity (also a good way of getting a bit of extra money to top players/teams who would be taking GB Ultimate abroad). Have a go at defining this "serious" thing everyone's on about (eg Paulo and Ruth ages ago), sure it's in the dictionary with a whole string of adjectives, but, I believe, in the sporting context it relates to ability, ambition and the lengths one would go to to attain "success". Now define success in ultimate; beating the opposition and having fun, and there we are straight back to compete and enjoy without a mention of the word serious. If u really want to get "serious" forget about SOTM;-) I'm afraid, and that comes from speaking with athletes, basketballers, soccerplayers (all people who could be playing) and the BBC (the people who could be watching) - none of whom get their heads round it actually working and thus perceive the game as "quirky", unlike (watch out - "joke" comin) dope toking university students who are at present our main recruits. "Surely we're all aware that the representation of the truth is often more important than the truth itself." I think "sometimes" instead of "often" would be preferable. As for growth - I dunno - is ultimate growing in this country?? If we register all the players who actually want to play (more than they want to get stoned and/or pissed!) we might know if and where it is growing, and more significantly why and how. For such a good "product" I feel we're not seeing the growth we could - this could be due to a flaw in our marketing "strategy". Fairplay to Stig and Chris (b4 anyone asks yes- Daniel is my nephew!!), Charlie, Hurricanes, and every1 else pulling others into the game, but should we rely solely on these rare and beautiful(ly) well placed people's good nature and bravery (I guess no-one ever imagined careers would be on the line for ultimate) to promote our sport? Having said this we (the Ultimate community - through the good work of the BUF) do OK for very little funding. Ben, Ian et al do a good job - but lets stop kissin butt and put our money where our mouths are (!). At the same time let's try not to rely solely on institutions to take OUR sport forward (apologies to the Disc-golfers - like everyone else on BritDisc (except the events diary!) I'm talking Ultimate ;-) Cheers, and a good weekend to all, mb PS in case u missed it - that was a rant in support of a professional association AND an open-minded free-for-all britdisc alongside it/in amongst it! (ok, plus a bit of gut reaction to something that _sounded_ a bit up-the-arse-facist-bully-boy, soz Rich - may the force b with u) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sun Mar 11 15:42:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2BFbCI19642 for britdisc-outgoing; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:37:12 GMT Received: from csv.warwick.ac.uk (nt209 [137.205.41.128]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2BFb9v19555 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:37:09 GMT Message-ID: <3AAB9B7C.268858A4@csv.warwick.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:36:28 +0000 From: Pimpy Organization: University of Warwick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Swindon/Oxford practice? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm an 19 year old, male Bears (3) player looking for a team to throw a disc around with over Easter and the summer near to Swindon or Oxford. If anyone is interested please drop me a line at mawdo@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thanks Pimpy Bears From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 09:45:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2C9fwc14141 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:58 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2C9fuv14087 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:57 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f90.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.90]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2C9ftg07939 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:55 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:41:35 -0800 Received: from 137.222.10.57 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.222.10.57] From: "Dirk van Swaay" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Ultimate & Britdisc - enjoyable, competitive and presentable Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:41:35 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2001 09:41:35.0637 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0F3E450:01C0AAD8] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Just a comment on your rant, MB: "how about some prize money for the tour and/or nationals in 2002 and see what that could do by way of Sponsorship-Publicity (also a good way of getting a bit of extra money to top players/teams who would be taking GB Ultimate abroad)" Don't you think that SOTG will be at a loss once players start getting paid? Money is by far (at least from my point of view) the strongest corruption agent in society.. it is very easy for players to make bad calls, contest, argue, etc. if both teams know that the winner of the match is up for a money prize. Competition is good and healthy, but it's not the main reason why people play Ultimate - or any sport, for that matter. Please raise your voice against this if I'm wrong, but I think everyone plays for fun first. When players enter the pitch with this priority in mind, that's when they experience the sport at its prime.. real Ultimate. Dirk Mythago PS: Cheers for Mohawks, for showing what Ultimate is all about at student nationals - never had I seen a team play Ultimate as they did. That's a real team... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 12:04:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CC0a218645 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:00:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CC0Yv18630 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:00:34 GMT Received: from elslonexc001.epress.co.uk (elslonexc001.epress.co.uk [194.128.151.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CBxxg05106 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:00:01 GMT Received: by elslonexc001.epress.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:59:40 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Gibbons, Sarah (ELSLON)" To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: tough on drugs etc. Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:59:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I would have responded to this sooner but I have been away on business in New Orleans for the past week. I didn't post this to Britdisc and I certainly don't own an account called "nakedultimate@hotmail.com," however appropriate this may seem to some of my closer aquaintances. I wrote this piece mainly for my own amusment and then forwarded it to a couple of friends who'd also been following the drugs debate. One of them saw fit to post it to Britdisc in my name. It was never my intention to contribute to the drugs debate in this way and I'm certainly not egotistical enough to believe that everyone on Britdisc would find this amusing. The article itself was a purely frivolous commentary, which was aimed more at the way in which the debate was conducted rather than the BUF/Britdisc establishment. I had no desire to lower the tone of this serious debate. If it appeared otherwise, please attribute this to my literary clumsiness rather than any malicious intent. However, as someone who works for a dot.com, I should be old enough and ugly enough to know that once you forward something electronically, although you may loose control of it, you still have to take responsibility for its content. I regret that this has happened, and naturally, I take full responsibility for any offence this article has caused. I would like to extend my profound apologies to all concerned. Sarah Sarah Gibbons ChemWeb.com http://www.chemweb.com Mediapack: http://www.chemweb.com/mediapack tel: +44 20 7611 4416 fax: +44 20 7611 4301 Meet us at: Pittcon 2001 - New Orleans - March 5-8 - booth 7406 and the ACS Spring Meeting - San Diego - April 2-4 - booth 939 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 13:15:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CD9oD25708 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:09:50 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CD9iv25651 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:09:44 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f248.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.248]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CD9eg06114 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:09:43 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:09:08 -0800 Received: from 129.11.159.161 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:09:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.159.161] From: "Kilkenny Ultimate" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: scaff71@hotmail.com, johnrandall1@hotmail.com, bensilk25@hotmail.com, matthewv@chemistry.leeds.ac.uk, josephorgan@hotmail.com, eng8jrb@leeds.ac.uk, andy_mawer@hotmail.com, fue8bkc@leeds.ac.uk Subject: Withdrawal from Indoors Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:09:02 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2001 13:09:08.0433 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F65C410:01C0AAF5] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk
Due to lack of comitted indoor players/money/time etc. oddJOB officially withdraw from the National Indoor Finals in Cheltenham.  We feel a comitted team that enjoys indoor ultimate would be better off than an understrength oddJOB side.
 
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 16:22:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CGGJ311836 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:16:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CGGCv11772 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:16:12 GMT Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CGG8L00539 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:16:10 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA25738 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:15:45 GMT Message-ID: <3AACF599.2B0A849F@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:13:13 +0000 From: Tim Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate Directions: Do we care about our routes? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Do we care about our routes? ===================== How many of these statements do we hear the echo of? 1) "Other sports do this; we should do this" 2) "We want to be on TV; we want to play professional sport" 3) "We have graduated from university, are now earning a bit more money and we need more comfort: hotels, pitches all to the highest possible standard." 4) "We need to be more status conscious" 5) "We are so desperate to win that we forget that we are playing a game, and even play under such a rigid mandate that we forget to express ourselves." 6) "We need to be much more institutionalised, so we can get more respect from other institutions" The founders of our beautiful game had a vision: a new sport that was not like traditional sports. Do we reject everything from our culture, because the time it was written in has gone out of fashion? People who believed more in that culture have left the sport, they don't like the conflict and yes to a certain extent it is their fault that they haven't propagated their vision. Incidently, I do call fowls when I see them, and as anybody who has ever played in my team will tell you I am as committed in a game as you will find any ultimate player to be. I also love the high of competitive ultimate, the passion, the pain, the freedom of expression, the fight, and even the social tension. Its what makes us human! Sport is life on fast forward. I think we as a community need to be more introspective. Even if we did want to be on TV then who is going to be interested in a wannabee sport. Tim Ro Sham Bo "You don't lose your soul all at once; you lose it a bit at a time." Not sure who said that, but its very true. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 17:42:40 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CHeAb29727 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:10 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CHe8M29706 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:08 GMT Received: from server-12.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2CHe6L09072 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:06 GMT X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 9176 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2001 17:34:08 -0000 Received: from mcproxy.mcww.net (HELO mcmail1.mediacomtmb.com) (195.153.204.5) by server-12.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 12 Mar 2001 17:34:08 -0000 Received: by mcmail1.mediacomtmb.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:39:40 -0000 Message-ID: From: David Trovell To: "'Tim Rogers'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Ultimate Directions: Do we care about our routes? Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:35:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2CHe8M29707 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The people who founded the sport were hippies - good riddance and bring on the TV cameras! -----Original Message----- From: Tim Rogers [mailto:trogers@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk] Sent: 12 March 2001 16:13 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Ultimate Directions: Do we care about our routes? The founders of our beautiful game had a vision: a new sport that was not like traditional sports. Do we reject everything from our culture, because the time it was written in has gone out of fashion? People who believed more in that culture have left the sport, they don't like the conflict and yes to a certain extent it is their fault that they haven't propagated their vision. Incidently, I do call fowls when I see them, and as anybody who has ever played in my team will tell you I am as committed in a game as you will find any ultimate player to be. I also love the high of competitive ultimate, the passion, the pain, the freedom of expression, the fight, and even the social tension. Its what makes us human! Sport is life on fast forward. I think we as a community need to be more introspective. Even if we did want to be on TV then who is going to be interested in a wannabee sport. Tim Ro Sham Bo "You don't lose your soul all at once; you lose it a bit at a time." Not sure who said that, but its very true. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses. The information in this communiqué may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this E-Mail by anyone else is unauthorised. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 21:06:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CL2jv29347 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:02:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CL2hM29335 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:02:43 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CL2fg22701 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:02:42 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14cZSd-00045P-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:02:36 +0000 Subject: Stop the threat to our beautiful game Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:03:10 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ultimate faces it's biggest threat ever - that of improved organisation and increasing public awareness. As fellow Ultimate players, I urge you to stamp out any activities that result in the promotion or development of our sport. Such irresponsible action will result in ever increasing numbers of people enjoying themselves, making friends, getting fit, and so on. Plus, when I show up to tournaments, there's a danger that I won't know everybody. Sign the petition now. Join the campaign to stop the development of my, I mean our wonderful sport. Keep Ultimate for Ultimate Players - not riff-raff. (Or people with money). ;-) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 12 23:03:20 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2CN0jD21703 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:00:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2CN0fM21673 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:00:41 GMT Received: from netmail.co.uk (netmail.netmail.co.uk [194.205.11.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2CN0bL17221 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 23:00:40 GMT Received: from PROXY2 (PROXY2 [194.205.11.21]) by netmail.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.afxy) with ESMTP id ga611032 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:59:11 +0000 Received: from ben [218.99.151.24] by vac.uk.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:33:58 +0000 From: "Ben Rolfe" To: Subject: fun-competition-money Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 18:34:01 -0000 Message-ID: <006601c0ab23$02a44920$189763da@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dirk, good points all, but please consider also: 1) greed is the real villain - the abuser of a >10K yr old evolving trade system (aimed at rewards for goods/deeds), 2) bad calls already happen - at all except the, er, least intense levels, again this could be ego related, 3) how to raise the profile of Ultimate with an aim to involve more people. I've had the good fortune to live near the Mohawks for a few years now - you're right of course, they also demonstrate that Ultimate was, is and always will be, all good. Have a good1 2, Ben S&G Ps: I've never played unreal Ultimate for an unreal team - it soundz like fun - where can I play and how much is it? oh- it's 3? Wikkid - c u there! ;-) Just a comment on your rant, MB: "how about some prize money for the tour and/or nationals in 2002 and see what that could do by way of Sponsorship-Publicity (also a good way of getting a bit of extra money to top players/teams who would be taking GB Ultimate abroad)" Don't you think that SOTG will be at a loss once players start getting paid? Money is by far (at least from my point of view) the strongest corruption agent in society.. it is very easy for players to make bad calls, contest, argue, etc. if both teams know that the winner of the match is up for a money prize. Competition is good and healthy, but it's not the main reason why people play Ultimate - or any sport, for that matter. Please raise your voice against this if I'm wrong, but I think everyone plays for fun first. When players enter the pitch with this priority in mind, that's when they experience the sport at its prime.. real Ultimate. Dirk Mythago PS: Cheers for Mohawks, for showing what Ultimate is all about at student nationals - never had I seen a team play Ultimate as they did. That's a real team... From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 00:13:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2D07Xo20344 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:07:33 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2D07TM20316 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:07:29 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2D07TL19033 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:07:29 GMT Received: from host62-7-180-45.host.btclick.com ([62.7.180.45]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010313000548.MAMT25463.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host62-7-180-45.host.btclick.com>; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 00:05:48 +0000 Received: by host62-7-180-45.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C0AA88.B267DFC0@host62-7-180-45.host.btclick.com>; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:09:25 -0000 Message-ID: <01C0AA88.B267DFC0@host62-7-180-45.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Cc: "'cc701660@ntu.ac.uk'" , "'markwideburg@btinternet.com'" , "'steve_ninety@hotmail.com'" , "'john.armitage@ic.ac.uk'" , "'matthew@lateralshift.com'" Subject: Tour Entry Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:05:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2D07VM20329 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Final Chance! I will be taking the list off the BUF website for contact details in the next day or so. If you want to get tour entries be on that list. I will NOT be sending entries to stragglers - I haven't got time. Get your team details on that list NOW! Chris DoC From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 09:56:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2D9qtu05768 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:52:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2D9qaM05634 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:52:50 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f111.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.111]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2D9qZL18871 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:52:35 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 01:52:16 -0800 Received: from 137.222.10.58 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:52:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.222.10.58] From: "Dirk van Swaay" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: fun-competition-money Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:52:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2001 09:52:16.0483 (UTC) FILETIME=[4956FB30:01C0ABA3] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben, You're right.. money is just paper, greed is the culprit. But, with bad calls happening already, don't you think they would happen much more often when players are playing for money? If you look at professional football players, they don't carry big smiles on their faces during matches like the Mohawks do, and neither do they make hilarious in-game jokes... (YEEAAHH!!!) They all know that they will receive a bonus to their salaries if they win the match, so the sport they play is no longer about having fun, it's about feeding kids/getting ahead/buying fancy cars/etc. With that priority in mind, players don't hesitate as much about spoiling the fun for others and themselves if they think that this will bring them closer to the cash bonus at the end. Have a good one, Dirk PS: www.unrealtournament.com (I'm sure someone has made a mod for Ultimate Frisbee!) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 10:23:42 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DAMjb21661 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:22:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DAMgM21639 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:22:42 GMT Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DAMeg08959 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:22:41 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA22817 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:22:32 GMT Message-ID: <3AADF44F.1A7EC345@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:19:59 +0000 From: Tim Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Stop the threat to our beautiful game Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Yeah, your funny - but addressing the half that was not in jest. I am not saying anything against "improved organisation and increased public awareness". However, the easiest way to grow the sport is not through mass media, but from within the sport. Increasing the number of growth centres by supporting the fledgling teams, producing a record of players so that players without a team can find one (lots are lost after leaving university), keeping the cost down, continuing to make the sport attractive for those who play. If we do this then ultimate growth should be exponential, as its growth will depend largely on its existing population. Incidently, I mentioned some of these growth issues last year and we still haven't got a register for players, the cost of ultimate is about to go up, and I haven't seen Stirling or Strathclyde at any tournaments this year. So where is the "improved organisation". Tim Ro Sham Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 12:28:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DCQ0t29367 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:26:00 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DCPvM29343 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:25:57 GMT Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DCPnL01186 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:25:49 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14cns2-000ENC-0X for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:25:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Stop the threat to our beautiful game Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:26:21 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Yeah, your funny - but addressing the half that was not in jest. My point was that many players that were around for "the roots" of Ultimate didn't want the sport to get any bigger, because they liked the fact that they personally knew each and every person that played the game. We're way beyond that now. Ultimate is way more fun now than it was 18 years ago. Also, if the roots of Ultimate mean queueing for cold showers and having to play on a hillside, then as Dave said, bring on the sponsors and the TV cameras. :-) Many of the founders of our sport didn't have any particular vision - they just liked to smoke a lot of dope, drive around the country and throw frisbees with their mates. > >I am not saying anything against "improved organisation and increased >public awareness". However, the easiest way to grow the sport is not >through mass media, but from within the sport. Absolutely agreed. I just thought your list of "statements" seemed to suggest that being more organised, and having an eye on the sport's public image, were bad things. >Increasing the number of >growth centres by supporting the fledgling teams, Yes >producing a record of >players so that players without a team can find one (lots are lost after >leaving university), I think we lose them because it gets harder to find a team to play for once you leave University. Mad keen players will sort themselves out when they graduate. But many others find that new aspects of their life take priority, to the exclusion of Ultimate (certainly happened to me). Hopefully we'd automatically keep track of players who wanted to carry on playing via the BUA membership system. As you say, what we could do with is more support for fledgling teams, and a wider range of types of tournament. I still think city leagues have a lot going for them in terms of developing the sport. Which reminds me, I'd better get on with London League 2001...! >keeping the cost down, continuing to make the sport >attractive for those who play. Frequently these two do not go hand in hand. >If we do this then ultimate growth >should be exponential, as its growth will depend largely on its existing >population. This assumes no drop-out rate. Outside of student Ultimate, there aren't any mechanisms bringing significant numbers of new players into the sport. And the biggest drop-out rate is probably also from students after graduation. I imagine there's a lot of "churn" in the player base around the 18-22 age range, but above say 25 it gets a bit stagnant. Improved growth depends on either: i) keeping students in the sport after they leave University ii) promoting the sport outside of the student world We could always do both. But who's going to do the work? > >Incidently, I mentioned some of these growth issues last year and we >still haven't got a register for players, the cost of ultimate is about >to go up, and I haven't seen Stirling or Strathclyde at any tournaments >this year. So where is the "improved organisation". Good question. I'm sure Ben's working on it, though key to the whole issue is who's going to volunteer to be part of that organisation? Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 12:41:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DCeVE05514 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:40:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DC0hM15782 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:00:43 GMT Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DC0aL19402 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:00:37 GMT X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Tue, 13 Mar 01 12:00:25 +0000 X-WebMail-UserID: ruth11 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:00:25 +0000 From: Ruth Taylor To: Tim Rogers Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: RE: Stop the threat to our beautiful game Message-ID: <3AD9DD28@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk With respect to people finding teams near them, have you checked out the BUF web site recently? I think you'll find there is such a mechanism on there and has been for a long while. On the subject of a register of players, there is no quick and easy way to achieve this. As a player interested in the organisation of our sport, I would have expected you to have done this already, but may I suggest that you read the BUA proposal where this has been addressed in full. Ruth >===== Original Message From Tim Rogers ===== >Yeah, your funny - but addressing the half that was not in jest. > >I am not saying anything against "improved organisation and increased >public awareness". However, the easiest way to grow the sport is not >through mass media, but from within the sport. Increasing the number of >growth centres by supporting the fledgling teams, producing a record of >players so that players without a team can find one (lots are lost after >leaving university), keeping the cost down, continuing to make the sport >attractive for those who play. If we do this then ultimate growth >should be exponential, as its growth will depend largely on its existing >population. > >Incidently, I mentioned some of these growth issues last year and we >still haven't got a register for players, the cost of ultimate is about >to go up, and I haven't seen Stirling or Strathclyde at any tournaments >this year. So where is the "improved organisation". > >Tim >Ro Sham Bo ----------------------- InterMutual Healthcare from Totalise. Peace of mind at an affordable price. Visit http://www.intermutual.com/health/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 14:04:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DE17O14273 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:01:07 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DE15M14265 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:01:06 GMT Received: from netmail.co.uk (netmail.netmail.co.uk [194.205.11.2]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2DE0oL09448 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:01:00 GMT Received: from PROXY2 (PROXY2 [194.205.11.21]) by netmail.co.uk (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.afxy) with ESMTP id fa611239 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:59:15 +0000 Received: from ben [218.99.151.24] by vac.uk.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:49 +0000 From: "Ben Rolfe" To: Subject: fast forward Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01c0abb4$6a56a4a0$189763da@ben> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk X-Return-Path: ben.rolfe@vac.uk.com Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim, What about u don't grow up all at once - u do it a bit at a time? Have fun where u r at but know u will move on! That's the essence of my route exploration - I don't like static, or even to some extent inertia - I like interesting movement - and ok these are primarily ideas, but that's where a lot of stuff starts - my preferred route for ultimate? fast-beautiful-safe(ish) FYI Joel Silver was the prime founder of the game - he WAS a hippy (and even a student at some point!) but he went on to make a killing producing shite films like lethal weapon lots, but also more recently Matrix. U don't even know the founders so don't presume to know what they would want for the game. As well as getting more people involved in Ultimate, some people can't play sport at all, and maybe can't even get around 2much (believe it or not they're human too even though they don't fit into your definition of what makes us human), but they would really like to c ultimate on tv, jus a thought for u. As for Sport bein life on fast forward! Like your numbered points I don't know where u dredge such rubbish up from! Sport's jus one aspect of life - don't get too carried away with it all eh? I believe in our sport as it is here and now - I don't know what a wannabee or a wannabee sport is so I'll leave that one with u. Now go introspect, lots. :) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 14:20:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DEI6820761 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:18:06 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DEI0M20703 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:18:00 GMT Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DEHxg22019 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:17:59 GMT Received: from ultimatum.demon.co.uk ([158.152.203.174]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14cpcU-000Bgv-0U for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:17:51 +0000 Subject: London League 2001 - here we go Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:18:26 +0000 x-sender: ultimatum@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Paul Hurt To: "BritDisc" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Apologies to non-Londoners. You might want to stop reading now ;-) London Ultimate League 2001 --------------------------- This is just a quick call to arms really. I'm in the process of getting the London League sorted for this summer, and it's about time I had an idea of how many teams will be playing. Those who played last year will know how it worked. It's pretty much the same plan for this year. But for those new to the concept, here's the main points: * Games are played on a weeknight (probably Wednesday), between May and August * It won't be *every* Wednesday. There are off weeks. Teams will probably end up playing about eight games. * Venues for games will be Clapham Common and Regents Park * It's up to you to form teams and enter as a team. It's not a hat. * Teams play co-ed. 5-2 ratio. * There's a team fee of about 100 quid or so (might not be that much, not sure yet). * There are trophies to be won. Quite cool they are too (see website). I haven't updated the website yet, but if you want to see how it all worked last year, visit: http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ Seemed to work well last year, so there are unlikely to be many changes (though I'm hoping to actually have a "finals" day, and subsequent party, on a Saturday). What am I asking for at this stage? ---------------------------------- Simply that you start organising your teams. Get on the case, start making those phone calls and sending e-mails. Please let me know a.s.a.p. if you're planning to enter a team, whether it's complete and ready to go, or if you're just thinking about it. There's plenty of advice on forming teams on the website. Please also join the London League mailing list if you haven't already. To join, visit: http://www.groups.yahoo.com and do a search for "londonleague". There are currently 106 players on the mailing list. Info about the league will be sent to the league list, and not to BritDisc, so you need to join up if you want to know what's happening. If you're a spare player looking for a team, it wouldn't hurt to put a message out on the list declaring your availability. Okay, I'm done for now. Later people. Thanks Paul --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Hurt London Ultimate League http://www.ultimatum.demon.co.uk/londonleague/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 14:33:33 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DEWCt28347 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:32:12 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DEWAM28338 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:32:10 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DEW9L21412 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:32:09 GMT Received: from ntintel3 (ntintel3.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.6]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA46507 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:33:25 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200103131433.OAA46507@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:31:44 (GMT) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspQMail 2.0 4.03 (QSM287871F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2DEWBM28341 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 18 MARCH 2001 (1 DAYS) - SURREY TOURNIE Location: University of Surrey - Guildford - [Indoor Ultimate] Indoor Tournament with 8 teams taking part Luke Marsh Main Email: ma81lm@surrey.ac.uk ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2001 (NB CHANGE OF DATE!) Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1 Location: Bristol - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 12 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 2 Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 19 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate] Simon Salt Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com ____________________________________________________________ 26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED TOURNAMENT Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate] Mixed Series Event http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate Robert Hadfield 20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP Main Email: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk Home Phone: 01223 704254 Work Phone: 01223 334375 Fax: 01223 334373 ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - CO-ED TOUR Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate] CO-ED TOUR 16 TEAMS ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS A SHARMA 42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: N/A Mobile: N/A ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate] Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details Ian Cuddihy 1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com Home Phone: +3535652871 Mobile: +447957667837 ____________________________________________________________ 23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3 Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001 Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate] Check out the web site muppet http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html Jon Copeland 47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com Home Phone: 07899 996686 Work Phone: 01235 827295 ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate] Details to be announced nearer the time Clifford Bottomley 11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com Home Phone: 0208-542-4966 Work Phone: 01932-861461 Mobile: 0777-5917169 Fax: 01932-576033 ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4 Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 15:32:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DFTkS28873 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:29:46 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DFTgM28830 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:29:42 GMT Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DFTeL18790 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:29:41 GMT Received: from srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk (trogers@rupert.mech.ed.ac.uk [129.215.113.221]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA11964 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:29:39 GMT Message-ID: <3AAE3C49.C5DF37E5@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 15:27:05 +0000 From: Tim Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Hippies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk >Many of the founders of our sport didn't have any particular vision - >they just liked to smoke a lot of dope, drive around the country and >throw frisbees with their mates. I am not idealising hippies, and I'm sure that this is true to some extent. However, somebody developed the format of tournaments, ran them, set up the BUF, grew the sport, and developed the sports culture. The cultural aspect of ultimate has lots going for it. Yes, it must continue to evolve and to progress must face up to its faults, but we have to identify what WE treasure and maintain that through its growth. These answers cannot be found by trying to emulate other sports, or trying to please the media. Tim Ro-Sham-Bo From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 18:09:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DI5I717283 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:05:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DI5DM17244 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:05:14 GMT Received: from infoviaplus.net.ar (adv26.infoviaplus.net.ar [200.9.212.55] (may be forged)) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DI55g11555 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:05:06 GMT Received: from pn ([200.41.162.83]) by infoviaplus.net.ar (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #984492859.080740001; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:14:19 -0300 To: ukmail@inter.com.uk From: mmnp@infovia.com.ar Subject: About your long distance calls. 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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 18:28:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DIRaL28247 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:27:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DIRYM28232 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:27:34 GMT Received: from smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.117]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DIRTg20294 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:27:34 GMT Received: from pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.100]) by smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16521; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:14:05 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19569; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:16:26 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: FAO: Indoor Nationals Entrants - Part 2 To: BritDisc Cc: Layout Dreams Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:16:25 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Tue Mar 13 18:16:25 2001; Local host: pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Further to my email of 07/03/2001 this email contains the following sections: - Qualifying Teams - Payment - Accommodation Info - Useful Website(s) QUALIFYING TEAMS Teams that have qualified for BUF National Indoor Championships 2001: Scotland (5): Fusion # Shooting Stars 1 Flatball Project 1 Sneeekys 1 Far Flung 1 Northern (6): Yo Mama # Chevron Action Flash Fat Ted's Ultimate Club Jedi # Phat Eds 1 OddJOB * Midlands (4): Mexican Horse Bandits Blue Arse Flies Bears Random Fling Southern (5): awaiting official announcement of results (it's rumoured 4 of the top 5 are: Bristol; Mr Men; Shrub; and Sublime Patriots, not necessarily in that order.) London (4): Strange Blue 1 # Hammerage Angels 1 Playthings * Note: we are aware that OddJOB have withdrawn. Decision to follow as to where that space will be allocated. # cheques received, thanks. PAYMENT If you don't want to take up your qualifying spot, drop me a line so that we can work out who's next on the list, and whether they want to come. Otherwise, if you haven't already, get those cheques in the post and drop me a line (LayoutDreams@phidelta.demon.co.uk) to let me know they're coming. >> Teams that qualify for Nationals will be required to pay >> the entry to their entry fee no later than 19th March >> 2001. Should a team not pay then they will forfeit their >> slot at nationals, which will be offered to the next >> highest non-qualifying team. Any team that requires an >> invoice to pay can pay by personal cheque and exchange >> this later for a club or counter cheque. >> In return teams will receive an information pack on the >> Nationals event. > > GBP 95.00 cheques, payable to LAYOUT DREAMS, should be sent to: > > Layout Dreams > c/o Wayne Retter > 8 Avon House > Rutland Close > Redhill > Surrey > RH1 1EH > > and send me an email to let me know it's on the way. ACCOMMODATION INFORMATION I have been advised that we have definitely secured exclusive use of the Arts Centre, which contains 19 beds and a whole pile of floor-space. There will be a nominal charge for this accomodation. B&Bs should be in plentiful supply. We suspect that Cheltenham Racecourse, and the Hotel there, are closed as a result of the foot and mouth epidemic. USEFUL WEBSITES http://www.visitcheltenham.gov.uk/ the Cheltenham Tourism website containing info for restaurants, pubs (there's a section on the "Fish & Fiddle"!), and B&Bs Unfortunately, there's unlikely to be a Layout Dreams tournament website, as my home PC has died. Wayne -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 19:14:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DJBc420006 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:11:38 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DJBYM19971 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:11:35 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DJBWg06694 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:11:34 GMT Received: from modem-19.erythromycin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.93.19] helo=ben) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14cuCE-00030J-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:11:02 +0000 Message-ID: <00ac01c0abf2$61d5a2c0$135d883e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: <3AADF44F.1A7EC345@srv1.mech.ed.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Stop the threat to our beautiful game Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:44:17 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tim, Don't worry, we're not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater (or sell our souls to Satan or Sky for that matter!). You're right that getting things sorted internally is the most important thing hence the proposal to become a proper players association (which I assume you haven't read judging by your emails) http://www.ukultimate.com/docs/assoc.htm Your dead wrong if you think publicity is certain to harm us. Publicity means more people have heard of the sport which means players, more teams, more local competition, cheaper membership fees, etc. Basically its good news for everyone. The 1994 Channel Four documentary on ultimate has been cited by countless people visiting freshers fair stalls as the time they first heard about ulimate. The positive preconception this gave them was invaluable for recruitment. We're not going to suddenly become premiership football overnight so chill out. Actually there is a great deal we can learn from other sports. They have after all succeeded as we hope to eventually. Its only football thats got itself in such a mess through having too much money, most other sports are doing just fine with sponsorship, etc. Anyway whos to say we can't retain our special identity as well as become more 'mainstream'? To be honest ultimate is a lot like many other minority sports. Having no referees (debate anyone?!) is certainly unusual but apart from that there are an awful lot of other people doing similar sorts of things across the country. Take it easy mate - its only a sport - not a cult. Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Rogers" To: Sent: 13 March 2001 10:19 Subject: Re: Stop the threat to our beautiful game > Yeah, your funny - but addressing the half that was not in jest. > > I am not saying anything against "improved organisation and increased > public awareness". However, the easiest way to grow the sport is not > through mass media, but from within the sport. Increasing the number of > growth centres by supporting the fledgling teams, producing a record of > players so that players without a team can find one (lots are lost after > leaving university), keeping the cost down, continuing to make the sport > attractive for those who play. If we do this then ultimate growth > should be exponential, as its growth will depend largely on its existing > population. > > Incidently, I mentioned some of these growth issues last year and we > still haven't got a register for players, the cost of ultimate is about > to go up, and I haven't seen Stirling or Strathclyde at any tournaments > this year. So where is the "improved organisation". > > Tim > Ro Sham Bo > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 13 22:22:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2DMItN15354 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:55 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DMIsM15340 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:54 GMT Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2DMIcL13003 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:39 GMT Received: from cloe.demon.co.uk ([194.222.139.162]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14cx7l-0004IU-0W for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:37 +0000 Message-ID: <36DKxCAmxpr6Ew9y@cloe.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:17:10 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: David Whitehead Subject: Re: sarah's news item and apology References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Sarah, It's a shame that the response to your "news flash" induced you to post an apology. It was the only post I saved of the whole drug debate, and it made me laugh out loud. I thought it was clearly in good fun and not intended to be critical of the people who were understandably serious about the issue. Please put me on your email list next time you try your hand at creative writing. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 14 01:12:45 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2E19pj10595 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:09:51 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2E19mM10573 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:09:48 GMT Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2E19mg11350 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:09:48 GMT Received: from modem-19.erythromycin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.93.19] helo=ben) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14cuCV-00033v-00; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:11:19 +0000 Message-ID: <00b601c0abf2$6bf30d60$135d883e@ben> From: "British Ultimate Federation" To: "BRITDISC" , "Will Parker" , "Delbert" , Subject: Calling Dorset/Wessex are players/teams Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:16:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Can anyone help out this woman....? If you can then please get back to me. I imagine a demo game might fit the bill. Ben Ravilious Secretary British Ultimate Federation > You have had the following enquiry via the BUF web site > > Name: Louise Treacher > Address: North Dorset District Council, Blandford Forum, Dorset > Message: I am organising a Day of Sport in July 2001 as a showcase for sport and active recreation. I would very much like Ultimate to be part of this day and am looking for help and suggestions !! 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I was embarrased after sending my last email, its a danngerous tool. The soul quote by the way I have been told is Martin Sheen, so thats sort of OK. However, "treasure" was unforgivable: my girlfriend thinks its a lovely word, which makes things much worse. I really should endure much more stick. Sorry, won't happen again! Tim From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 14 15:15:09 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2EFAVg07500 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:10:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2EFATM07471 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:10:29 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2EFARL02884 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:10:28 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.210] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000103259 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:10:39 +0000 Message-ID: <3AAF89CD.94D832CE@deepend.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:10:29 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: For London players going to Nationals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi If you play for Strange Blue, Hammerage, Angels or Playthings and you're driving to Cheltenham and could offer me a life please get in touch. I pay for petrol and stop singing if asked politely. Regards Bes* Jes* - This weekend I have mostly been playing for Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 14 15:50:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2EFlvg25819 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:57 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2EFluM25802 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:56 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2EFleL21664 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:45 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.210] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000103559 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3AAF9289.4BCE38B0@deepend.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:47:24 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Re: For London players going to Nationals References: <3AAF89CD.94D832CE@deepend.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Wicked. Now that I've got a life, any chance I could get a lift? Bes* Jes* Jester wrote: > Hi > > If you play for Strange Blue, Hammerage, Angels or Playthings and you're > driving to Cheltenham and could offer me a life please get in touch. I > pay for petrol and stop singing if asked politely. > > Regards > Bes* > Jes* - This weekend I have mostly been playing for Shooting Stars From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 02:15:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2F2BgQ22664 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 02:11:42 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2F2BdM22643 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 02:11:39 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.63]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2F2BcL01341 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 02:11:39 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:11:32 -0800 Received: from 194.82.103.77 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 02:11:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.77] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth? Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:11:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 02:11:32.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[40ED9190:01C0ACF5] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Seeing that the Dublin Tournament has had to be cancelled due to the foot and mouth problem, can someone tell us the fate of Tour 1 the following weekend? I'm hoping Bristol's not so badly affected as Dublin. Still - 32 teams of people from all across the country playing in some fields might raise some local concerns. Tony RF _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 11:50:54 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FBhY319702 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:43:34 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FBhQM19665 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:43:26 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FBhPL08284 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:43:25 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:41:49 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:40:51 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Antony Marsh'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:40:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk All, I have spoken to Adam about the F&B problem. He is looking into exactly what is necessary and what is required by MAFF. However, at the moment there is no restriction on the movement of anything other than livestock, and since the fields are a sports ground - therefore no animals allowed - there are no restrictions placed upon them. Nor are the fields in a quarantined area, nor within the 10 miles radius of a quarantined farm. This issue with eh Dublin tournament is the international travel aspect and all the Brits bringing it over. HOWEVER - should the need arise that we need to disinfect, can all people ensure that they disinfect their cars, and ALL boots (since I know many of you have more than one pair), on arrival at the tournament - this may well be very important. We will of course be keeping you informed. Chris Hughes DoC PS Tour invites went in the post today! -----Original Message----- From: Antony Marsh [mailto:antony_marsh@hotmail.com] Sent: 15 March 2001 02:12 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth? Seeing that the Dublin Tournament has had to be cancelled due to the foot and mouth problem, can someone tell us the fate of Tour 1 the following weekend? I'm hoping Bristol's not so badly affected as Dublin. Still - 32 teams of people from all across the country playing in some fields might raise some local concerns. Tony RF _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 13:19:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FDCaX29057 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:12:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FDCWM29016 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:12:32 GMT Received: from smtp8.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp8.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.118]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FDCDg22649 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:12:13 GMT Received: from pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.100]) by smtp8.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09099 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:19:25 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31284; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:01:08 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Re: RE: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:01:07 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Thu Mar 15 13:01:07 2001; Local host: pmweb5.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > HOWEVER - should the need arise that we need to > disinfect, can all people ensure that they disinfect > their cars, and ALL boots (since I know many of > you have more than one pair), on arrival at the > tournament - this may well be very important. Now there's an idea... a car washing/disinfection service... could make some cash! Seriously, though, how might we be supposed to do this? Bring a bucket and bottle of bleach with us so we can scrub our boots before playing? Wayne -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 13:53:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FDkSU15778 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:46:28 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FDkQM15758 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:46:26 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FDkOL11506 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:46:24 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:45:02 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:44:05 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'w.retter@bigfoot.com'" Cc: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: RE: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth? Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:44:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk No, Stuff will be provided, and apparently you need specific bleach as recommended by the MAFF (maybe they've already figured out how to make some cash out of this ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Retter [mailto:wretter@postmaster.co.uk] Sent: 15 March 2001 13:01 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: RE: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth? > HOWEVER - should the need arise that we need to > disinfect, can all people ensure that they disinfect > their cars, and ALL boots (since I know many of > you have more than one pair), on arrival at the > tournament - this may well be very important. Now there's an idea... a car washing/disinfection service... could make some cash! Seriously, though, how might we be supposed to do this? Bring a bucket and bottle of bleach with us so we can scrub our boots before playing? Wayne -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 15:15:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FF7QE21537 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:07:26 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FF7MM21503 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:07:22 GMT Received: from mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (mailgw.chelt.ac.uk [194.81.184.203]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FF7Lg03008 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:07:21 GMT Received: from exchange.chelt.ac.uk (unverified) by mailgw.chelt.ac.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:05:41 +0000 Received: by exchange.chelt.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:04:42 -0000 Message-ID: From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Matti Pellervo KAJASTE'" Cc: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Foot and Mouth Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:04:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Matti (plus others) The National Indoors will be taking place next weekend. Yes the Gold Cup festival has been cancelled. This is a horse racing event (again we're back to the livestock issue). However, the event was cancelled after they had decided to go ahead, when they discovered that sheep had been grazing on the race course - big no-no! Again the presence of another 200 ultimate players is highly unlikely to affect the risk factors in spreading disease. However, this does mean that the race-course hotel - one of our usual accommodation options is probably out of bounds. We however have been unable to confirm the hotels availability since we can't contact them (suspect that means they are shut). We have other accommodation options if people contact me at home - cjhughes@talk21.com Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Matti Pellervo KAJASTE [mailto:mpk2@st-andrews.ac.uk] Sent: 15 March 2001 14:54 To: HUGHES, Chris Subject: Foot and Mouth Hi Chris, I was just wondering whether the foot and mouth disease is gonna affect the Open indoors in Cheltenham next weekend? I heard from one of the guys in my team that some big festival has been cancelled because of that. And I've got at least one guy who needs to know asap, whether it's gonna be played or not, since he's got a plane ticket to book. St Andrews, to my knowledge, is not very close to an affected farm, but there are pig farms etc. near the town. If one of them gets infected, do you think we could not come down? Does it matter if the tournament is indoors? I'm gonna check these things from our athletic union and the MAFF website, but I'd like to hear what you think. Cheers, Matti Kajaste Captain of the Flatball Project, St Andrews From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 15:38:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FFahU04781 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:43 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FFadM04748 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:39 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FFaYL14397 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:34 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14dZnR-000O9S-02 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:13 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14dZnR-000HcO-01; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:36:13 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:31:13 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Foot and Mouth Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:31:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: HUGHES, Chris [mailto:CHughes@chelt.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 3:05 PM To: 'Matti Pellervo KAJASTE' Cc: BritDisc (E-mail) Subject: RE: Foot and Mouth Matti (plus others) The National Indoors will be taking place next weekend. Yes the Gold Cup festival has been cancelled. This is a horse racing event (again we're back to the livestock issue). However, ... Chris, does this mean that Carthorses should be banned? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 16:31:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FG6Vd18567 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:06:31 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FG5rM18264 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:05:54 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f77.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.77]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FG5Lg19677 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:05:52 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 08:05:13 -0800 Received: from 194.200.241.2 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:05:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.200.241.2] From: "Adam Milner" To: CHughes@chelt.ac.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: Foot and Mouth Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:05:12 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 16:05:13.0185 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7B83D10:01C0AD69] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since its Cloven hooved animals that catch foot and mouth are we banning you from coming Chris? Adam Chevron ----Original Message Follows---- From: "HUGHES, Chris" To: "'Matti Pellervo KAJASTE'" CC: "BritDisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Foot and Mouth Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:04:41 -0000 Matti (plus others) The National Indoors will be taking place next weekend. Yes the Gold Cup festival has been cancelled. This is a horse racing event (again we're back to the livestock issue). However, the event was cancelled after they had decided to go ahead, when they discovered that sheep had been grazing on the race course - big no-no! Again the presence of another 200 ultimate players is highly unlikely to affect the risk factors in spreading disease. However, this does mean that the race-course hotel - one of our usual accommodation options is probably out of bounds. We however have been unable to confirm the hotels availability since we can't contact them (suspect that means they are shut). We have other accommodation options if people contact me at home - cjhughes@talk21.com Cheers, Chris -----Original Message----- From: Matti Pellervo KAJASTE [mailto:mpk2@st-andrews.ac.uk] Sent: 15 March 2001 14:54 To: HUGHES, Chris Subject: Foot and Mouth Hi Chris, I was just wondering whether the foot and mouth disease is gonna affect the Open indoors in Cheltenham next weekend? I heard from one of the guys in my team that some big festival has been cancelled because of that. And I've got at least one guy who needs to know asap, whether it's gonna be played or not, since he's got a plane ticket to book. St Andrews, to my knowledge, is not very close to an affected farm, but there are pig farms etc. near the town. If one of them gets infected, do you think we could not come down? Does it matter if the tournament is indoors? I'm gonna check these things from our athletic union and the MAFF website, but I'd like to hear what you think. Cheers, Matti Kajaste Captain of the Flatball Project, St Andrews _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 18:00:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FHvxg07626 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:57:59 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FHvvM07613 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:57:57 GMT Received: from smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.117]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FHvtL24167 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:57:56 GMT Received: from pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.113]) by smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19864 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:44:26 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23390; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:57:48 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Re: RE: Foot and Mouth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:57:48 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Thu Mar 15 17:57:48 2001; Local host: pmweb6.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Since its Cloven hooved animals that catch foot and mouth > are we banning you from coming Chris? In defence of Chris, I think you'll find he suffers from "foot IN mouth" s'different, see? Wayne -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 18:06:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FI5IW09513 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:05:18 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FI5GM09503 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:05:16 GMT Received: from web9504.mail.yahoo.com (web9504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.134]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2FI52g27906 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:05:02 GMT Message-ID: <20010315180500.7178.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.106.154.10] by web9504.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:05:00 PST Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:05:00 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mike?= Subject: Foot and mouth Epidemic To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdiscers Should we all be doing our bit to understand and accommodate the crisis our community's are undergoing, urban and rural? If that does mean cancelling a tourney or two. Mike O'Meara Pookas Dublin 4 P.S Lets hope this disease is away soon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 18:29:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FISNP14935 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:28:23 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FISKM14920 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:28:20 GMT Received: from janus.cypress.com (janus.cypress.com [157.95.1.1]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FISFL27454 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:28:19 GMT Received: from cobweb.mis.cypress.com (cobweb.mis.cypress.com [172.16.2.5]) by janus.cypress.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18473 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypg.ukdesign.cypress.com (cypg.ukdesign.cypress.com [157.95.18.17]) by cobweb.mis.cypress.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f2FIS6605844 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from cypress.com (bere [157.95.18.67]) by cypg.ukdesign.cypress.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27045 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:25:36 GMT Message-ID: <3AB1091F.7D9E5F79@cypress.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:25:35 +0000 From: James Lutley Organization: Cypress Semiconductor UK Design Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Foot and mouth Epidemic References: <20010315180500.7178.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------435A562C8F840F851D8D893E" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------435A562C8F840F851D8D893E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well I don't know about the Emerald Isle, but our urban communities don't tend to have many herds of cows or pigs wandering about, so we are pretty much unaffected. Instead of playing a tournament, perhaps we should organise Ultimate trips into the countryside to shoot and burn any wild animal that we see. The Tour rankings could then be decided on how many tonnes of innocent beasties you have managed to destroy. I'm off to buy a gattling gun & a flame thrower. Cheers Jimmer Mike wrote: > Britdiscers > Should we all be doing our bit to understand and > accommodate the crisis > our community's are undergoing, urban and rural? > If that does mean cancelling a tourney or two. > Mike O'Meara > Pookas > Dublin 4 > P.S Lets hope this disease is away soon. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------435A562C8F840F851D8D893E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jwl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for James Lutley Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jwl.vcf" begin:vcard n:Lutley;James tel;fax:+44 1256 416970 tel;work:+44 1256 416102 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Cypress Semiconductor [UK] Ltd. version:2.1 email;internet:jwl@cypress.com title:Staff Design Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;Unit 11 Cedarwood,=0D=0AChineham Business Park,;Basingstoke;Hants;RG24 8WD;UK x-mozilla-cpt:;-12504 fn:James Lutley end:vcard --------------435A562C8F840F851D8D893E-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 19:16:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FJDGv25527 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:13:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FJDCM25507 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:13:12 GMT Received: from lemontree.org (lemontree.org [194.105.162.108]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FJDBg07053 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:13:11 GMT Received: from [10.10.10.40] by lemontree.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:21:20 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:54:11 +0000 Subject: Re: Foot and mouth Epidemic From: "andy.catlin" To: James Lutley , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3AB1091F.7D9E5F79@cypress.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Nice One Jimmer Bet you do a good line in after-dinner speaking on such jaunty topics as genocide, child abuse and amusing disabilities. Some stuff isn't funny. Candy Falling Skies > From: James Lutley > Organization: Cypress Semiconductor UK Design Centre > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 18:25:35 +0000 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: Re: Foot and mouth Epidemic > > Well I don't know about the Emerald Isle, but our urban communities > don't tend to have many herds of cows or pigs wandering about, so we are > pretty much unaffected. > > Instead of playing a tournament, perhaps we should organise Ultimate > trips into the countryside to shoot and burn any wild animal that we > see. The Tour rankings could then be decided on how many tonnes of > innocent beasties you have managed to destroy. > > I'm off to buy a gattling gun & a flame thrower. > > Cheers > > > Jimmer > > > Mike wrote: > >> Britdiscers >> Should we all be doing our bit to understand and >> accommodate the crisis >> our community's are undergoing, urban and rural? >> If that does mean cancelling a tourney or two. >> Mike O'Meara >> Pookas >> Dublin 4 >> P.S Lets hope this disease is away soon. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. >> http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 19:28:19 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FJRG528994 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:27:16 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FJREM28979 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:27:14 GMT Received: from rw-gw-02.BroadVision.com ([198.211.204.200]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FJR9g08350 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:27:13 GMT Received: by rw-gw-02.broadvision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:26:19 -0800 Message-ID: <45C4368325C2D411898E00062938B3E827F49C@UK-MSG-01> From: "Travers, Neil" To: "Britdisc (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Foot and mouth Epidemic Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:26:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > Bet you do a good line in after-dinner speaking on > such jaunty topics as genocide, child abuse and > amusing disabilities. > > Some stuff isn't funny. Oh come on, you can't say foot&mouth is in the same league as child abuse. And just because there is a bit of a crisis at the moment (or not if you believe the government), doesn't mean it is a taboo topic for humour. Lighten up. -- Neil Travers From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 19:38:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FJbVA01463 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FJbKM01371 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:20 GMT Received: from mercury.ex.ac.uk (mercury.ex.ac.uk [144.173.6.26]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FJb0L05092 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:37:14 GMT Received: from [172.16.150.228] by mercury via SMTP (TAA31119); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:39:35 GMT From: "ROB DANIELS" To: "britdisc" Cc: "Tom Penultimate Ultimate" , "Sally Skunks Ultimate" , "Paul Airbadgers Ultimate" , "Nicole Mohawks Ultimate" , "Lewis Sublim Ultimate" , "Kerry Picnic Ultimate" , "Jim Mr Men Ultimate" , "James Mohawks Ultimate" Subject: Early Warning Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:35:22 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I know this is a bit early but I feel that the Exeter Hat is an event that people should be putting in their diaries so here goes The Exeter Hat will be held on the 30th of June and 1st of July. Entry will be approximately £5 per person all abilities welcome Any quires E-mail me at R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk Rob From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 20:46:13 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FKhvU14967 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:43:57 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FKhtM14952 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:43:55 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FKhsg16897 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:43:54 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26364 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:43:50 GMT Received: from B14E-23.sucs.soton.ac.uk (b14e-23.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.20.203]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f2FKhnl01904 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:43:49 GMT From: rich abrams Reply-To: ra299@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc Subject: LOST Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 20:43:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Did anyone happen to pick up any of the following things at Plymouth? 1. A blue sparkle skunks disc 2. an A5 plastic wallet containing what looks like crappy bits of paper (and, as skunks organisational stuff, is crappy bits of paper) 3. a white #3 skunks t shirt. muchos gracias rich (guess who?) ---------------------- rich abrams ra299@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 22:16:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FMDjr05955 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:13:45 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FMDeM05892 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:13:40 GMT Received: from wesserver (xd84b4f96.ip.ggn.net [216.75.79.150]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FMDcL23632 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:13:38 GMT Received: from 216.75.79.150 ([216.75.79.150]) by wesserver with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2172.1); Thu, 15 Mar 2001 17:09:39 -0500 Content-type: text/html Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:47:52 -0500 From: cyclone@planetsweep.net Subject: Introducing Cyclone from Planet Sweep To: britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2001 22:09:39.0298 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0F04C20:01C0AD9C] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk pLaNeT cYcLoNe !!!________________________
 
 
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 15 22:38:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2FMb1Y11628 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:37:01 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FMb0M11621 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:37:00 GMT Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2FMaxL27996 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:36:59 GMT Received: from jupiter ([213.105.79.149]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010315223659.JHOC281.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@jupiter> for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:36:59 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Duncan Pocklington" To: Subject: Foot and mouth - Swindon Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:40:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000301c0ada0$f2c14960$954f69d5@jupiter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk The key point is that we follow guidance, local communities will not appreciate any possible infection, not just people bringing it to Bristol but taking it home with them. If the tour is to go ahead then people need to take the precautions put in place seriously, we are talking about peoples livelihoods here. It would be helpful to know where Tour 1 is actually going to be held, I don't recall many venues "in the city" that could host a big tournament, so it could be "out in the sticks" or at least close to livestock. This information will help us make a sensible and responsible decision. If Tour 1 goes ahead, are there contingency plans for teams who are unable to attend due to foot & mouth (west country, wales, northwest england, Wiltshire seem to be worst affected)so they are not penalised for something out of their own control? For information, Tour 1 is in Bristol but that is only 40 miles from Swindon. There are a number of farms affected in this area, and some exclusion zones, all public areas outside of the town are off limits, and we have the first possible prosecution of people under the 1983 Foot & Mouth Act (ignoring signs and entering a closed area). According to the local paper in Swindon large areas of Bristol are also closed,residents of Bristol will be able to confirm this. Keep us informed and lets make a decision/give more guidance asap. Sarah P From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 08:22:27 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2G8Jnl09991 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:19:49 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2G8JmM09980 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:19:48 GMT Received: from admin.company-net.co.uk (admin.company-net.co.uk [193.129.5.65]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2G8Jlg02225 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:19:47 GMT Received: by admin.company-net.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <44GDPX0B>; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:18:07 -0000 Message-ID: <69CA03802427D411B5ED00C04F1FFD231F5D7D@EXCHANGE> From: Simon Salt To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: RE: Foot and mouth Epidemic Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 08:12:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I don't usually jump on these bandwagons, usually just let them roll on by but.... the comment "there is a bit of crisis" shows a complete lack of understanding and grasp of how serious this situation is, especially for the people whose entire lifestyle is going to be decimated by the culling of over 2 million animals. I'm all for a bit of humour, God knows we all need something to laugh at these days but this is not it. Simon Sneeeky's > -----Original Message----- > From: Travers, Neil [mailto:Neil.Travers@BroadVision.com] > Sent: 15 March 2001 19:27 > To: Britdisc (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Foot and mouth Epidemic > > > > Bet you do a good line in after-dinner speaking on > > such jaunty topics as genocide, child abuse and > > amusing disabilities. > > > > Some stuff isn't funny. > > Oh come on, you can't say foot&mouth is in the same league as > child abuse. > And just because there is a bit of a crisis at the moment (or > not if you > believe the government), doesn't mean it is a taboo topic for humour. > > Lighten up. > > > -- > Neil Travers > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 10:28:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GAQ9913057 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:26:09 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GAQ5M13033 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:26:05 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f223.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.223]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GAQ0g01653 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:26:00 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 02:25:53 -0800 Received: from 212.59.97.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.59.97.12] From: "Tom Styles (Block Stack)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Video in Ultimate Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:25:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 10:25:53.0091 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A923130:01C0AE03] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone, This is a dual Purpose Email. Firstly, We are videoing Nationals and would like your help. Secondly, We'd like to ask what you'd like to see in any coverage the sport receives. NATIONALS Block Stack Productions are a group of ultimate players who aim to promote the sport through making videos. So far we've made two, one at Warwick in January and one in Nottingham at the now infamous bong tournament. Those who have seen either of the tapes will know that we are taking it "seriously" :-) For nationals we aim to make a 2.5 hour video featuring some of the best bits from Saturday most of the action from the top teams on the Sunday. For the first time we have some post production facilities at our disposal so the tape will be a little bit tighter than before, We have also got our score board fixed since Warwick and also have some music too. In order to make our commentary job easier we use team sheets so we can recognise players on the pitch. Previously we have filled them in at the tournament, but because of the number of teams its may be impractical to do this at Cheltenham. If you could put together a team sheet including Name, Nickname, Distinctive features, (Glasses, height, crazy hair, no hair, knee supports, baseball caps, bandanas, cloven hooves, are all very useful, eye colour less so) and any other comments. Information on the teams history, location, and other spurious data makes the commentary more interesting. Email completed sheets to blockstack@hotmail.com and I'll do my best to learn names and facts. If you have a team photo you could scan in, or a web site with photos of the team that would be even better. Congratulations to all the teams who qualified for Nationals I'll see you there. FUTURE OF THE GAME In the light of the Nottingham tournament and its much discussed aftermath, and this weeks discussion on the development of the sport, I thought it would be a good time to ask you, the ultimate community (sorry golfers), What you would like from any coverage of the sport. Our current format is the final ten minutes of each game, with scoreboard in between each point and some analysis from anyone who cares to give it. At the end of the game a courtside interview with a player from each team. Ideas and input about how we can improve this format are very welcome. If you've seen one of our videos and thought something could have been improved or included, we'd like to know about that too. Those are things that we can control there are things that we can't control. For example when a team doesn't have the same kit the game is very hard to follow on TV. The fact that the lines on the pitch are usually very difficult to see doesn't help. There are scheduling concerns too but a TD's job is tough enough as it is. Any other thoughts, advice, offers of help, (emma from mwnci get in touch) or equipment (specifically semi-pro digital video cameras, duplication equipment) is also appreciated. One final Note Although we did video the closing ceremony from Nottingham we cut the scene from the tape before it was copied. Regards to all Tom Tom Styles Block Stack Productions Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers http://www.blockstack.co.uk blockstack@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 12:29:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GCNA618693 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:23:10 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GCN6M18674 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:23:06 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f140.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.140]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GCN5L13868 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:23:05 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 04:22:49 -0800 Received: from 129.11.159.162 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:22:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.11.159.162] From: "odd JOB" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: foot and mouth in Dublin Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:22:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 12:22:49.0988 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0F7B440:01C0AE13] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk


Tony,
Dublin isn't "badly affected" as you say.  The Republic of Ireland has yet to have a confirmed outbreak of foot and mouth.  The reason the tournament is cancelled is 12 UK teams were going to be coming across, mingling in fields with Irish people and possibly spreading the disease there.
With Bristol being in an already affected part of Britain, I can only assume the tournament will not be called off for the same reason.
 
Brendan
Jedi, oddJOB etc.

> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:11:31 -0800
> From: "Antony Marsh"
>Subject: Tour 1 - Foot and Mouth?
>
>Seeing that the Dublin Tournament has had to be cancelled due to the foot
>and mouth problem, can someone tell us the fate of Tour 1 the following
>weekend?
>I'm hoping Bristol's not so badly affected as Dublin. Still - 32 teams of
>people from all across the country playing in some fields might raise some
>local concerns.
>
>Tony
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 12:36:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GCZPl24066 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:35:25 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GCZOM24050 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:35:24 GMT Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.mail.yahoo.com [205.180.60.129]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2GCZGL15444 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:35:17 GMT Received: (qmail 10427 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2001 12:35:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20010316123509.10426.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.11.148] by web121.yahoomail.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 04:35:09 PST Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 04:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Sarah=20Eckman?= Subject: Re: foot and mouth To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <984740087.608.12916.l10@yahoogroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Britdisc, I appreciate the humour some of you are trying to put into the situation, but imagine this. You are a farmer and your farm so far has been disease free. Then you find out some Ultimate players who drove through ... happened to pass an infected farm, then played frisbee with whomever, passed on airborne disease, and x player drove past your farm. Now you have to stand there and watch as thousands of your sheep have to be killed, and you have no way of earning a living for at least the next year... We may see ourselves as exempt, but we need to do the responsible thing. Hopefully the BUF and tour directors will really look at the situation closely... now back to the jokes, sarah f6uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 13:40:44 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GDYeR12051 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:34:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GDYcM12038 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:34:38 GMT Received: from web11302.mail.yahoo.com (web11302.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.205]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2GDYbL25530 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:34:37 GMT Message-ID: <20010316133435.91372.qmail@web11302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.189.144.81] by web11302.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:34:35 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:34:35 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?M=20J?= Subject: generic playbooks? To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any generic playbooks? especially those showing standard zone etc? ...trying not to reinvent the wheel. tia MJ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 13:46:36 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GDh4b14259 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:43:04 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GDh1M14238 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:43:01 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f50.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.50]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GDgtL26480 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:42:55 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 05:42:40 -0800 Received: from 212.67.97.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:42:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.67.97.100] From: "Kerry maybury" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: CHughes@chelt.ac.uk, cjhughes@talk21.com Subject: plymouth Results Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:42:40 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 13:42:40.0639 (UTC) FILETIME=[F86B08F0:01C0AE1E] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk

The results from the Plymouth regional qualifire were:

16) Goonies (last by default)

15)Mohawks 2

14)Picnic 2

13)Penultimate - Spoon Winners

12)Sublime 2

11)Skunks 3

10)Skunks 2

9)Uriel 2 -Plate Winners

8)Picnic 1

7)Uriel 1

6)Skunks 1

5)Mohawks 1

4)Sublime 1

3)Headrush

2)Mr Men

1)Shrub

The final like all the games was though and competitive, Mr Men with there hungover iron man team were narrowley beaten by Shrub 14-10 in the 40min grand final.  Lee from Shrub won MVP for his outstanding performace over the weekend(how did he catch that?), while Mr Men took home a crate of beer for winning the party award.  Uriel 2 did well on the trophey front, not only did the win the plate but they took home spirit too. Well done guy's.  Last but not least MPP went to roof from mohawks, i wonder why!!!

Well I had a great weekend and hope all those that came down did to, well done to the top five who qualified good luck at the nationals.  A BIG thank you to everybody who helped out over the weekend you know who you are.

Look forward to seeing everyone at outdoors,

Kerry

Picnic Pres.

any tour teams looking for players?

 



 

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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 17:31:17 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GHRpi04800 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:27:51 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GHRkM04759 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:27:46 GMT Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.45]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GHRkL00060 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:27:46 GMT Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.40.83]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010316172734.SSDY5029.mta5-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer>; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:27:34 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c0ae40$a76dba20$5328fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" To: Cc: "British Ultimate Federation" , "BRITDISC" References: <000301c0ada0$f2c14960$954f69d5@jupiter> Subject: Re: Foot and mouth - Swindon Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:43:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I have checked with the site today and there is currently no restrictions on this site. They have been running other events over the past weeks. Adam Batchelor PS Duncan / sarah its being held at the old Clerical Medical site ----- Original Message ----- From: Duncan Pocklington To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:40 PM Subject: Foot and mouth - Swindon > The key point is that we follow guidance, local communities will not > appreciate any possible infection, not just people bringing it to Bristol > but taking it home with them. If the tour is to go ahead then people need to > take the precautions put in place seriously, we are talking about peoples > livelihoods here. > > It would be helpful to know where Tour 1 is actually going to be held, I > don't recall many venues "in the city" that could host a big tournament, so > it could be "out in the sticks" or at least close to livestock. This > information will help us make a sensible and responsible decision. > > If Tour 1 goes ahead, are there contingency plans for teams who are unable > to attend due to foot & mouth (west country, wales, northwest england, > Wiltshire seem to be worst affected)so they are not penalised for something > out of their own control? > > For information, Tour 1 is in Bristol but that is only 40 miles from > Swindon. There are a number of farms affected in this area, and some > exclusion zones, all public areas outside of the town are off limits, and we > have the first possible prosecution of people under the 1983 Foot & Mouth > Act (ignoring signs and entering a closed area). According to the local > paper in Swindon large areas of Bristol are also closed,residents of Bristol > will be able to confirm this. > > Keep us informed and lets make a decision/give more guidance asap. > Sarah P > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 17:46:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GHk3h13054 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:46:03 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GHk1M13042 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:46:01 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f131.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.131]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GHk0g20638 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:46:01 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:45:50 -0800 Received: from 137.205.8.1 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:45:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [137.205.8.1] From: "Luke Hartley" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: strange blue Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:45:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2001 17:45:50.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0E7D8C0:01C0AE40] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Getting off the foot and mouth for a moment, and onto something more personal... (altrhough admittedly it is an omportnat issue and the cancellation of dublin is an arse. Hopefully tour1 will be okay) Are Strange Blue practicing over easter and would i be able to come along to any practices as i live in cambridg? Currently play for bears 2nds, and would appreciate the chance to play a little over the break. I've already sent this to the contact address on the BUF website, but person concerned may have gone home by now. Anyway, woull appreciate any response. :) Cheers Luke Hartley _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 16 18:43:18 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2GIerF06932 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:40:53 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2GIepM06909 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:40:51 GMT Received: from web4307.mail.yahoo.com (web4307.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.199]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2GIejg14165 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:40:50 GMT Message-ID: <20010316184040.14056.qmail@web4307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.112.58.245] by web4307.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:40:40 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:40:40 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mathew=20Edwards?= Subject: Bristol Tour1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: adam.batchelor@virgin.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ive been sat silently watching all of this debate about the Foot & Mouth situation. Today Adam and myself have had a meeting with the authorities of the venue where Bristol tour 1 is being held. We have been assured that there is no problem at the "present" of infection or quarantine. Although it is only a small percentage of farms that are infected I think it may be wise for all players concerned to clean their boots before coming to the tour. This is a major disease and I dont think that any of us want to help spread it. I hope that everyone involved has received their invites, if not contact me on the E-mail address below thanks for your cooperation mee matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 10:53:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2JAkHW23189 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:46:17 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2JAkFM23180 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:46:15 GMT Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2JAkEg14025 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:46:14 GMT Received: from modem-55.bicolor-angel.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.229.55] helo=tom) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14exAy-0003kE-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:46:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001c01c0b0a5$5a42e600$b1a5fea9@tom> From: "Tom Candlin" To: Subject: Looking for Pete Coy Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 10:45:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0B061.AD934500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0B061.AD934500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete (or someone who knows him), Could you get in contact with me please? Cheers Tom Space Monkeys, Leeds, YBK ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C0B061.AD934500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Apologies to those of you who have not received the invites for Tour1. Please find attached a copy. thanks Matt Headrush ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA --0-1856717822-985028453=:5791-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 22:31:51 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2JMSji07831 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:28:45 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2JMShM07815 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:28:43 GMT Received: from server-11.tower-4.starlabs.net (mail.london-1.starlabs.net [212.125.75.12]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2JMSYg15230 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:28:43 GMT Message-Id: <200103192228.f2JMSYg15230@snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk> X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 1588 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2001 22:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ukfw1.ge.boc.com) (193.131.2.157) by server-11.tower-4.starlabs.net with SMTP; 19 Mar 2001 22:20:20 -0000 Received: by excgfd01.uk.gases.boc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:27:03 -0000 From: "Cahill,Maria" To: Student Ultimate , BritDisc Cc: Sally Pennington Subject: RE: Women's Student Indoors Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:09:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey, Just a quick reminder to all that the first women's outdoor event will take place at the tour event held at Southampton on the 23rd of June and the second event will be held in Leeds on the 21st and 22nd of July. The event organisers are looking for team numbers so can women's teams that think they will make it please let me know as soon as you can. If you are an individual without a team or think you can only get half a team together let me know and I will see if I can sort out pick-ups etc. If you are a bloke and know of women who may be interested in participating, please can you pass this info on. Finally any questions, just drop me a line. Thanks, Maria ********************************************************************* This footnote confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of known computer viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. However, it is still recommended that you use local virus scanning software to monitor for the presence of viruses. ********************************************************************* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 19 22:54:59 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2JMsJT18000 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:54:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2JMsGM17975 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:54:16 GMT Received: from t21mta00-app.talk21.com (mta00.talk21.com [62.172.192.40]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2JMsGL14929 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:54:16 GMT Received: from host213-120-33-15.host.btclick.com ([213.120.33.15]) by t21mta00-app.talk21.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010319225233.DKJD85.t21mta00-app.talk21.com@host213-120-33-15.host.btclick.com> for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:52:33 +0000 Received: by host213-120-33-15.host.btclick.com with Microsoft Mail id <01C0AFFE.9591FAE0@host213-120-33-15.host.btclick.com>; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:55:53 -0000 Message-ID: <01C0AFFE.9591FAE0@host213-120-33-15.host.btclick.com> From: Chris Hughes To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Tour Invites Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 22:54:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2JMsHM17980 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk As you have all see from Matt Edwards the tour invite has gone out on Britdisc - and it is here again (except not as an attachement) The entry deadline is Next monday - apologies for the lateness. You need to organise yourselves quickly. Tour waiting list rules will be strictly applied with no leniency for incompetence. Read your rules - learn the major parts - act on the info. You will also need to sort your roster. This must be done by the 4th of April (last day). Do it now - don't leave it until the end. Only one guest per team is allowed - don't be disqualified because you haven't rostered everyone. Any problems mail me - but don't expect a rapid response so again - be ahead of the game (unlike me!) Cheers Chris Tour 1 invite follows: Mathew Edwards 4 Wick Crescent Brislington Bristol BS4 4HL E-mail address: matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk Mobile: 0781 138 2084 TOUR ONE BRISTOL Ultimate Tournament 7th & 8th April 2001  Dear All  You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton College Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 7th and 8th of April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26th of March.  ENTRY FEE - £150 per team A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of £30 is available for student teams i.e. £120.  CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open to all. Changing rooms with hot showers "yes, hot" will be readily accessible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses is available on request.   GRUB - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff will be laid on for the Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar with a late licence, hopefully of 1am.  DIRECTIONS - From North, South, East or West: M5 - exit at Jct 19. Follow A369 towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on a windy road through small villages until you see a narrow turning on the right hand side signed posted for Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you - if you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! - this does not include the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at Abbots Leigh Village). See you there!  Mathew Edwards TOUR ONE BRISTOL - Clifton Rugby Club 7th & 8th April 2001  I ENCLOSE MY CHEQUE FOR £????????????? PLEASE MAKE ALL CHEQUES PAYABLE TO MATHEW EDWARDS AND RETURN TO ABOVE ADDRESS NAME:????????????????????????????????????????????.. TEAM:????????????????????????????????.????????????. ADDRESS:??????????????????????????????.????????????. ??????????????????????????????????????????.???????????????.?..????????????????..?POSTCODE:??????????.?? TEL:?????????????????????...MOBILE:??????????????????.? E-MAIL ADDRESS:??????????????????????????????????????? From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 20 12:08:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2KC4dx28797 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:04:39 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KC4bM28775 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:04:37 GMT Received: from mh-a05.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2KC4Zg04662 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:04:36 GMT Received: (qmail 7292 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2001 11:55:49 -0000 Received: from www-a25.backend.another.com (HELO www-a25) (172.16.100.25) by mh-a05.dmz.another.com with SMTP; 20 Mar 2001 11:55:49 -0000 Message-ID: <14513440.985089806313.JavaMail.nobody@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:03:25 +0000 (GMT+00:00) From: bruce@pointblank.co.uk To: chris hughes , "'britdisc'" Subject: Re: Tour Invites Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="4431066.985089805932.JavaMail.nobody@www-a25" X-Funmail-UID: 268015 X-Senders-IP: unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --4431066.985089805932.JavaMail.nobody@www-a25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=646 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a question... Given your paper work suggests approx cost of 135 quid per tour + 15 quid B= UF tax/deposit, is the Tour 1 cost quoted at 150 quid the total price, ie I= only send Matt 135, and Dora the other 15, or is it 150 to Matt and 15 to = Dora? I'm probably being dense, so humour me :o) Bruce Point Blank -----Original Message----- >From : Chris Hughes To : 'Britdisc' Date : 18 March 2001 22:54:26 Subject : Tour Invites As you have all see from Matt Edwards the tour invite has gone out on Britd= isc - and it is here again (except not as an attachement) > >The entry deadline is Next monday - apologies for the lateness. You need t= o organise yourselves quickly. Tour waiting list rules will be strictly app= lied with no leniency for incompetence. Read your rules - learn the major p= arts - act on the info. > >You will also need to sort your roster. This must be done by the 4th of Ap= ril (last day). Do it now - don't leave it until the end. Only one guest pe= r team is allowed - don't be disqualified because you haven't rostered ever= yone. > >Any problems mail me - but don't expect a rapid response so again - be ahe= ad of the game (unlike me!) > >Cheers Chris > >Tour 1 invite follows: > >Mathew Edwards >4 Wick Crescent >Brislington >Bristol BS4 4HL >E-mail address: matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk >Mobile: 0781 138 2084 >TOUR ONE BRISTOL >Ultimate Tournament >7th & 8th April 2001=A0 >Dear All=A0 >You are invited to Bristol Tour One, which will be held at Clifton College= Sports Ground, Abbots Leigh, Bristol on the weekend of the 7th and 8th of = April. The deadline for all entrants is Monday 26th of March.=A0 >ENTRY FEE - =A3150 per team=20 >A (hopefully satisfactory) discount of =A330 is available for student team= s i.e. =A3120.=A0 >CAMPING/B&B - On site camping available with 24hr toilet facilities open t= o all. Changing rooms with hot showers =93yes, hot=93 will be readily acces= sible. A list of local B&B / Guest Houses is available on request. =A0 >GRUB - A cheap food option of pasta and other quick stuff will be laid on = for the Saturday evening, followed by a party and a bar with a late licence= , hopefully of 1am.=A0 >DIRECTIONS - From North, South, East or West: M5 - exit at Jct 19. Follow = A369 towards Bristol for approximately 4 miles on a windy road through smal= l villages until you see a narrow turning on the right hand side signed pos= ted for Sports Ground. (Watch out as this turning can creep up on you - if = you get to the traffic lights, you have gone too far! - this does not inclu= de the pedestrian crossing lights at the George Inn at Abbots Leigh Village= ). See you there!=A0 >Mathew Edwards >TOUR ONE BRISTOL - Clifton Rugby Club >7th & 8th April 2001=A0 >I ENCLOSE MY CHEQUE FOR =A3????????????? >PLEASE MAKE ALL CHEQUES PAYABLE TO MATHEW EDWARDS AND RETURN TO ABOVE ADDR= ESS >NAME:????????????????????????????????????????????.. >TEAM:????????????????????????????????.????????????. >ADDRESS:??????????????????????????????.????????????. >??????????????????????????????????????????.???????????????.?..????????????= ????..?POSTCODE:??????????.?? >TEL:?????????????????????...MOBILE:??????????????????.? >E-MAIL ADDRESS:???????????????????????????????????????=20 > > > ----- Express yourself @ another.com http://another.com --4431066.985089805932.JavaMail.nobody@www-a25-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 20 13:05:06 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2KD3RC28318 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:03:27 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KD3PM28305 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:03:25 GMT Received: from smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.117]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KD3Jg28578 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:03:25 GMT Received: from pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.101]) by smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27762; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:49:22 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18386; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:01:11 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Re: Tour Invites To: bruce@pointblank.co.uk Cc: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:01:10 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Tue Mar 20 13:01:10 2001; Local host: pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I wondered this too, and have just spoken to Chris Hughes - we should be sending Matt £135.00 and Dora £15.00 (Adam, apparently you know this, but maybe haven't made Matt accurately aware...?) Wayne bruce@pointblank.co.uk wrote: > I have a question... > > Given your paper work suggests approx cost of 135 quid per tour + 15 quid BUF tax/deposit, is the Tour 1 cost quoted at 150 quid the total price, ie I only send Matt 135, and Dora the other 15, or is it 150 to Matt and 15 to Dora? > > I'm probably being dense, so humour me :o) > > Bruce > Point Blank -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 20 19:43:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2KJfMY02537 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:41:22 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KJfLM02521 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:41:21 GMT Received: from web4301.mail.yahoo.com (web4301.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.193]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2KJfHL13958 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:41:17 GMT Message-ID: <20010320194110.10143.qmail@web4301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.157.33.119] by web4301.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:41:10 GMT Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:41:10 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mathew=20Edwards?= Subject: tour1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: adam.batchelor@virgin.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Confused? After speaking with Adam we have come to the decision that we really are profiteering Bastards. The entry fee is £150 and £120 for student teams. The situation on Tax is that if you want to help BUF and the sport, you will need to take care of that yourselves. We expect one or other of the figures quoted above. To quote a wise old proverb" If you do not like it, go tell your mother"....FatBoy Cheers Matt ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 20 21:06:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2KL5KS04297 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:05:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KL5IM04285 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:05:18 GMT Received: from nephi.webleicester.co.uk (radium.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KL5Hg11344 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:05:17 GMT Received: from ntintel3 (ntintel3.webleicester.co.uk [195.146.160.6]) by nephi.webleicester.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA77922 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:06:29 GMT (envelope-from buf@ultimateweb.co.uk) Message-Id: <200103202106.VAA77922@nephi.webleicester.co.uk> From: British Ultimate Federation To: "britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk" Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:05:10 (GMT) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspQMail 2.0 4.03 (QSM287871F) Subject: BUF Events Reminder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2KL5IM04288 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BRITISH ULTIMATE FEDERATION DISC EVENTS DIARY See http://www.ukultimate.com/ for updates. Contact the BUF at buf@ultimateweb.co.uk Create your tournament web page at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/ ____________________________________________________________ 24 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - INDOOR NATIONALS Location: Cheltenham - [Indoor Ultimate] To be confirmed closer to date Chris Hughes Main Email: chughes@talk21.com ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - DUBLIN TOURNAMENT 2001 (CANCELLED) Location: Either UCD or Phoenix Park - [Outdoor Ultimate] NB: CANCELLED DUE TO FOOT AND MOUTH DISEASE OUTBREAK. This is the seventh annual tournament. We have had teams from Ireland, England Scotland, Wales, France and Germany competing in the past with "WeiBblau" from Germany being the current holders. This year is(partly due to the venue change and a hope of it being televised) expected to the biggest and best ever. http://www.geocities.com/ucdultimate Oisin Flanagan 9 Cullenswood Gardens, , Ranelagh,, Dublin 6, , Main Email: o_flanagan@yahoo.com Alternative Email: skizwan@yahoo.com Home Phone: 01 4971862 Mobile: 086 312 3364 ____________________________________________________________ 31 MARCH 2001 (2 DAYS) - SPRING FLING Location: bristol - [Disc Golf] 2nd leg of the bdga 2001 tour andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 APRIL 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 1 Location: Bristol - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - SCOTTISH OPEN Location: ulva ferry isle of mull - [Disc Golf] 3rd leg of the bdga tour 2001 (this replaces event on calendar for april 5/6) andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 05 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOM'S TOURNEY Location: Brugges, Belgium - [Outdoor Ultimate] Historically: 24 teams; 5 pitches; Saturday games to 30mins; sunday games to 40mins Accommodation can be booked via TD at local hostels (Bauhaus & Europa) or Campsite Dinner available on Saturday night Saturday night party GREAT BEER http://www.brugge.com/sports/sport/freezzzbeezzz/tom.htm Glenn Nolf Main Email: glenn@km.be ____________________________________________________________ 12 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 2 Location: Banbury - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 19 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate] Simon Salt Main Email: simon.salt@company-net.com ____________________________________________________________ 26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED TOURNAMENT Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate] Mixed Series Event http://wol.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk/ultimate Robert Hadfield 20 Victoria Street, Cambridge, , , CB1 1JP Main Email: rhh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk Home Phone: 01223 704254 Work Phone: 01223 334375 Fax: 01223 334373 ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HAYLING HURRICANE Location: hayling island nr portsmouth - [Disc Golf] 4th leg bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - CO-ED TOUR Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate] CO-ED TOUR 16 TEAMS ACCOMODATION AVAILABLE ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS A SHARMA 42 RICHMOND MOUNT , HEADINGLEY, LEEDS, , LS6 1DF Main Email: ASHARMA43@HOTMAIL.COM Home Phone: 0113 2749097 Work Phone: N/A Mobile: N/A ____________________________________________________________ 16 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - KILKENNY ULTIMATE TOURNAMENT 2001 Location: Kilkenny, Ireland - [Outdoor Ultimate] Come to Kilkenny to experience the fun and mayhem of Irish Ultimate. See for yourself why Ireland won SOTG at Worlds 2000. All teams and pick-ups welcome. Low entry fee of IRL£35 (approx £28 stg) per team. Contact kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com for details Ian Cuddihy 1 Brougumakers Hill , Kilkenny , Ireland, , Main Email: kilkennyultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: iancud@hotmail.com Home Phone: +3535652871 Mobile: +447957667837 ____________________________________________________________ 23 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 3 Location: Southampton - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - EXETER HAT Location: Exeter - [Outdoor Ultimate] Robert Daniels Moberly House, , Duryard Halls, Lower Argyll Road, Exeter, EX4 4QT Main Email: R.M.Daniels@exeter.ac.uk Alternative Email: Randomist@hotmail.com Mobile: 07733152313 ____________________________________________________________ 30 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - BRITISH OPEN Location: whitcombe farm, beaminster, dorset - [Disc Golf] 5th leg bdga tour 2001 also the british leg of the 'eurotour south' disc golf tour. andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BONGOS CLASSIC Location: london - [Disc Golf] leg 6 of the bdga 2001 tour. event and venue to be confirmed andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 07 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - RUMOUR 2001 Location: Chipping Norton 20 Miles north of Oxford - [Outdoor Ultimate] Check out the web site muppet http://www.ummedia.com/rumour2000/rumour.html Jon Copeland 47 Radley Road, Abingdon, Oxon, , Main Email: oxfordultimate@hotmail.com Alternative Email: Jon.Cpeland@bookham.com Home Phone: 07899 996686 Work Phone: 01235 827295 ____________________________________________________________ 08 JULY 2001 (7 DAYS) - EUROPEAN ULTIMATE CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS Location: Prague - [Outdoor Ultimate] http://eucc.frisbee.cz TBC Main Email: TBC ____________________________________________________________ 14 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - LURKERS TOURNAMENT Location: Cobham, Surrey - [Outdoor Ultimate] Details to be announced nearer the time Clifford Bottomley 11 Woodlands, Raynes Park, London, , Sw209JF Main Email: clifford_bottomley@cargill.com Home Phone: 0208-542-4966 Work Phone: 01932-861461 Mobile: 0777-5917169 Fax: 01932-576033 ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - QUARRY PARK OPEN Location: quarry park, kenilworth, warwick - [Disc Golf] 7th bdga tour 2001 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 21 JULY 2001 (2 DAYS) - TOUR 4 Location: Leeds - [Outdoor Ultimate] Chris Hughes Main Email: cjhughes@talk21.com Home Phone: 01452 380529 ____________________________________________________________ 25 AUGUST 2001 (2 DAYS) - CALEDONIAN OPEN Location: edinburgh, scotland - [Disc Golf] leg 8 bdga tour 2001 date and venue tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 22 SEPTEMBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - SOLSTICE 5 Location: burnlaw, nr newcastle - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 9 andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ 06 OCTOBER 2001 (2 DAYS) - ESSEX OPEN Location: essex university, colchester - [Disc Golf] bdga tour 2001 leg 10 the last open event of this years tour date tbc andy lucey Main Email: andylucey@yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 20 21:51:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2KLoMD23042 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:22 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KLoKM23028 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:20 GMT Received: from mta5-svc.virgin.net (mta5-svc.virgin.net [62.253.164.45]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KLoAg01099 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:10 GMT Received: from oemcomputer ([62.252.36.65]) by mta5-svc.virgin.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010320215005.KXPT5029.mta5-svc.virgin.net@oemcomputer> for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:05 +0000 Message-ID: <007c01c0b18a$02674760$aa24fc3e@oemcomputer> From: "adam batchelor" To: "BRITDISC" Subject: Re Tour 1 Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:06:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0079_01C0B18A.01C0F540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C0B18A.01C0F540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All Chris & I have cocked up. Apologies! We both blame each other totally. The result to you guys is as follows: Normal entry fee: =A3135.00 to Matt Edwards etc =A315.00 to BUF (Dora) Student team: =A3105.00 to Matt Edwards etc =A315.00 to BUF (Dora) If you have already sent the full amount to the profiteers then you need = to send =A315.00 to Dora and we will refund your money on the day of the = tournament at the captains meeting. If you do not ask for it then tough. = (ie you have a small window of opportunity so please take it to make = life easy for us). Yours sulkingly? Fatboy -- http://www.virgin.net/ ------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C0B18A.01C0F540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All
 
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Student=20 team:         =A3105.00 to Matt = Edwards=20 etc
          &nbs= p;            = ;       =A315.00=20 to BUF (Dora)
 
If you have already sent the full = amount to=20 the profiteers then you need to send =A315.00 to Dora and we will refund = your=20 money on the day of the tournament at the captains meeting. If you do = not ask=20 for it then tough. (ie you have a small window of opportunity so = please=20 take it to make life easy for us).
 
Yours sulkingly?
Fatboy
 
 

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------=_NextPart_000_0079_01C0B18A.01C0F540-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 20 22:16:57 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2KMEaM03224 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:14:36 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KMEYM03203 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:14:35 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f181.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.181]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2KMEYg11415 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:14:34 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:14:27 -0800 Received: from 194.82.103.78 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 22:14:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.82.103.78] From: "Antony Marsh" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Confused about Co-Ed Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:14:27 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2001 22:14:27.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[20D53CB0:01C0B18B] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Is there any distinction between a BUF Mixed Series Event, an apparently non-BUF Mixed Series Event, and the Co-Ed Tour? We may not be able to take a team to all the events - including those not yet advertised - but we'd like to enter for as many of the "tour" events as possible, whichever ones they are, so we might qualify for the co-ed nationals. Tony Random Fling Flyght Club >____________________________________________________________ > >19 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - BUF MIXED SERIES EVENT > >Location: Edinburgh - [Outdoor Ultimate] >____________________________________________________________ > >26 MAY 2001 (2 DAYS) - CAMBRIDGE CO-ED TOURNAMENT > >Location: Cambridge - [Outdoor Ultimate] > >Mixed Series Event >____________________________________________________________ > >09 JUNE 2001 (2 DAYS) - HONG KONG SEVENS - CO-ED TOUR > >Location: BOSTON SPA COMPREHENSIVE - [Outdoor Ultimate] > >CO-ED TOUR _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Wed Mar 21 19:28:25 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2LJNJC22523 for britdisc-outgoing; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:23:19 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2LJNHM22500 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:23:17 GMT Received: from web4306.mail.yahoo.com (web4306.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.198]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2LJNDL15358 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:23:14 GMT Message-ID: <20010321192311.16541.qmail@web4306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.157.33.21] by web4306.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:23:11 GMT Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 19:23:11 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mathew=20Edwards?= Subject: tour1 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: adam.batchelor@virgin.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk To all you smug people I personally am relieved that the confusion over Fees is sorted. Whilst none of the blaim can be allocated to me, I want to make clear, that I blaim the other two muppets. Please note for the record " Im not best pleased about the profiteers backing down". I will be having words with Fatboy about the rules of this game, I am sure it says in the profiteers handbook that the other side are supposed to back down. Yours Unhappily Matt P.S. Adams the soft one of the family, I wanted to charge £200 :-) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 09:34:58 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2M9SK720609 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:28:20 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2M9SIM20582 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:28:18 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net (anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net [194.159.243.144]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2M9S3g02230 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:28:03 GMT Received: from anchor-sbs-1.mail.demon.net ([194.159.243.143] helo=mail-1.sbs.demon.net) by anchor-sbs-2.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14g1Ns-0005ne-02; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:27:56 +0000 Received: from sbs1459.customer.demon.com (server01.student-reservations.co.uk) [194.159.222.79] by mail-1.sbs.demon.net with esmtp id 14g1Nr-000PxH-01; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:27:56 +0000 Received: by SERVER01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:20:23 -0000 Message-ID: From: Max Keogh To: "'Mathew Edwards'" , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: tour1 Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:20:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2M9SIM20585 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Matt, Maybe with all this profit you're going to make to can afford a decent education so you can learn to spell and punctuate properly. Max :-o -----Original Message----- From: Mathew Edwards [mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:23 PM To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: adam.batchelor@virgin.net Subject: tour1 To all you smug people I personally am relieved that the confusion over Fees is sorted. Whilst none of the blaim can be allocated to me, I want to make clear, that I blaim the other two muppets. Please note for the record " Im not best pleased about the profiteers backing down". I will be having words with Fatboy about the rules of this game, I am sure it says in the profiteers handbook that the other side are supposed to back down. Yours Unhappily Matt P.S. Adams the soft one of the family, I wanted to charge £200 :-) ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 10:04:05 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MA0Zm29198 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:00:35 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MA0XM29193 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:00:33 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f19.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MA0WL29908 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:00:32 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:00:25 -0800 Received: from 139.133.21.92 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:00:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.133.21.92] From: "Dave Gardner" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Aberdeen Beach Tournament Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:00:25 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2001 10:00:25.0994 (UTC) FILETIME=[EAD42EA0:01C0B2B6] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Two quick things... Falling skies is now officially changed its name to 'POSITIVE MOJO'. secondly... Heres a general invitation to the first ever C.U.B.E. (caledonia's ultimate beach event) - cheesy, I know! Held on the 5th & 6th May, on Aberdeen's Sunny and Sandy beaches. Team entry = £25 Accommodation is in various student flats. Friday social - in the Bobbin - local 'its a scream' Saturday social - tba (prob. large union venue - cheap beer!) The tournament will follow the same guidelines as other open outdoor tournaments. Its aimed to be a fun weekend, full of good spirit and ultimate, so come along if you can - and enjoy the hospitality of the NORTH! e-mail - positivemojo@hotmail.com Look forward to hearing from you all soon, Dave positive mojo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 10:50:12 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MAlVY20458 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:47:31 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MAlTM20443 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:47:29 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f162.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.162]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MAlSL18182 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:47:29 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:47:19 -0800 Received: from 212.59.97.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:47:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.59.97.12] From: "Tom Styles (Block Stack)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Team details for Video at Nationals Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:47:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2001 10:47:19.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[77ACF2C0:01C0B2BD] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, So far I have recieved team sheets for the Commentary at Nationals from the following teams. Jedi, Strange Blue, Sublime, Shooting Stars, BAF, Fusion. We use the team sheets to make our commentary more interesting and informative, this makes the video more personal to you. If your team are comming to nationals and haven't yet sent a brief team sheet then please do so, I'll do my best to learn them. Team sheet should include, Name, Nickname, Distintive features, and any other comments, for each player (Distnctive features should include, height, hair colour, bandanas, baseball caps, knee pads, shirt numbers if you have them,) Cheers Tom www.blockstack.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 16:04:02 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MDxNE09105 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:59:23 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MDSbM22736 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:28:37 GMT Received: from smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.117]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MDS6g14978 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:28:06 GMT Received: from pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.101]) by smtp6.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26086; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:13:10 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09747; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:25:00 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: FAO: Indoor National Entrants - Part 3 To: BritDisc Cc: ralf@cabalgroup.com Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:25:00 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Thu Mar 22 13:25:00 2001; Local host: pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Indoor Teams Here's the email that I recently sent to your Team contacts. There was also a map of Cheltenham attached, but I can't send that to BritDisc. (get it off your contact!) Answers to some additional questions: FRIDAY NIGHT ACCOMODATION I won't be around 'til late on Friday night; Chris will be working 'til at least 10.00 pm If you want Friday night accomodation, follow this procedure: 1) go there, and check to see if it's open yet (probably not, if it's before 10.00, as Chris has the keys; 2) call Chris at work 01242-543299 3) if no answer, call Chris at home 04452-380529 Chris will let you know whether he can get out to you quickly and let you in, or whether you should go and find a pub, and he'll come to find you a litle later. CAPTAINS MEETING is currently planned to be in the Recreation Centre at 08:45 NOTE: Chris is considering replacing the Captain's Meeting with an email before the w/e, which would also detail what time YOU need to be where for your first game! NOTE2: Unless you hear this for definite from him, prepare to be in Cheltenham for 08:45 !!!! Regards Wayne ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:46:28 -0000 From: "Retter, Wayne" To: Mohawks; Sublime; Headrush; Mr Men; Shrub; Angels; Hammerage; Strange Blue; Random Fling; Bears; Blue Arse Flies; Mexican Horse Bandits; Space Monkeys; Phat Eds; Jedi; Fat Ted's; Chevron Action Flash; Yo Mama Far Flung; Flatball Project; Shooting Stars; Fusion; Kamaya Maya; Mild Mannered Janitors Subject: Directions for Indoor Nationals First: ANY AND ALL replies to this message should be addressed to w.retter@bigfoot.com Second: there's (sort-of) a tournament website at http://www.ultilinks.com/tournaments/buf2001indoors/ Unfortunately, it doesn't have the map listed below/attached on it, which was the whole point... hopefully some of the other stuff will be useful (like, the list of teams attending!) Don't expect to see the seedings and/or schedules until the captain's meeting on Saturday morning. Third: PARTY info - In his finite wisdom, Chris has decided that we'll "invade" the "Fish'n'Fiddle" at 1a Imperial Square - just around the corner from Pizza Piazza, I think... Check out http://www.visitcheltenham.gov.uk and follow the "Life After Dark", "club: life", "Fish & Fiddle" links sequence for a little more info. I called them (01242-238001) to check out their dress code, and they said they don't have one!!!! (somewhat different to last time I was there!). Sorry, forgot to check on entry prices/times - from memory, it cost about a fiver, after 10pm ? Last: some tournament info - directions to the halls, address of the accomodation, URLs for maps on the web, an attached JPG file (I hope this gets through to you all!) The tournament is taking place on two sites, approx. five minutes walk from each other. Every team will have an equal chance of winning, according to the format. The tournament format will be four pools of six, with teams moving between halls, followed by three eight team knockouts. Captain's meeting will be at 8.45am on the Saturday morning, and all teams need to be there. We recommend the following routes; (BEWARE SPEED CAMS!) North (Birmingham'ish): Come down the M5, to J10, and turn towards Cheltenham on the A4019. Go past Sainsburys, past the TVR and BMW garages, and then turn left at the roundabout, onto Kingsditch Lane. Turn right at the mini-roundabout on to Swindon Road. Over the railway, be careful of the narrow bridge. Follow the road left at the next mini-roundabout. Past The Railway pub, and turn left at the next mini-roundabout onto St Paul's Road. The Hardwicke sportshall is in Hardwick Campus, immediately on the left; The Recreation Centre is in Tommy Taylors Lane, for which you need to go under the railway bridge and left into Folly Lane. London / South: The fastes route now is not the M40 / A40, but instead along the M4 to J15 and the A419 at Swindon to Cirencester, follow that road straight onto the A417 (both brand new roads with no speed cams.). Stay on the A417 to J11A of the M5 and get on to go one junction north to J11 (A40). Then follow the next set of directions. South-West (Bristol'ish): Up the M5 to J11 and onto the A40 towards Cheltenham. Straight over the first roundabout, past GCHQ, and turn left at the next roundabout, onto Princess Elizabeth Way, the A4013. Go straight across the square roundabout, i.e. opposite corner, back onto Princess Elizabeth Way. Go past Pate's Grammar School , Hall 2, and carry on until the roundabout by the Rover Garage. Straight across onto Kingsditch Lane. Turn right at the mini-roundabout on to Swindon Road. Over the railway, be careful of the narrow bridge. Follow the road left at the next mini-roundabout. Past The Railway pub, and turn left at the next mini-roundabout onto St Paul's Road. The Hardwicke sportshall is in Hardwick Campus, immediately on the left; The Recreation Centre is in Tommy Taylors Lane, for which you need to go under the railway bridge and left into Folly Lane. A40 East (Oxford'ish): Follow the A40 all the way through Cheltenham towards the M5, and eventually you will come to Lansddown Road, The Junction has a Petrol Station in the middle of the road in a roundabout. Carry along Lansdown Road until it become a single lane over a bridge. Turn right immediately after at the traffic lights, by the Lotus garage, onto Gloucester Road, the B4633. Past the Railway station, over the mini-roundabout. Past a number of traffic lights, past JJB Sports and tesco's. At the next set of lights, outside lane and straight on into Townsend St. (one way). Turn left at the end onto Swindon Road, and then immediately turn right at the mini-roundabout onto St Paul's Road. The Hardwicke sportshall is in Hardwick Campus, immediately on the left; The Recreation Centre is in Tommy Taylors Lane, for which you need to go under the railway bridge and left into Folly Lane. maps on the internet: sports halls: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?X=394378 &Y=223332&arrow=Y&zoom=2 C&G College "Hardwicke" hall is where the arrow is; Cheltenham Recreation Centre is where the river crosses Tommy Taylors Lane; ACCOMODATION We have confirmed our exclusive booking of the Arts Centre, with approx 25 beds/mattresses and lots of floor space. The costs to stay there will be: bed/mattress: £ 5 per person per night floor: £ 1 per person per night the Tournament Directors will collect the money on the day. If you'd like to stay there, we'd appreciate notification before the tournament. Address: Northlands Youth Arts Centre Pittville Circus Cheltenham GL52 2PX Streetmap link: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=395750 &y=222750&zoom=1&isp=200&ism=500&arrow=y?23,47 in the centre of square D3 on the map <> hopefully you should be able to tie this in with the directions Hopefully, that'll cover it all... see you at the weekend. 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The results were:- 14- Sneeekys 2 - wooden spoon 13- Drinking Jars 12- Stirling Blaze 11- Flatball Project 2 10- Looting Bras - Spirit 9- Falling Skies - Plate winners 8- Flatball project 3 7- Far Flung 2 6- Ro-Sham-Bo --------------------------------- below line qualify for finals 5- Far Flung 1 4- Sneeekys 1 3- Flatball Project 1 2- Shooting Stars 1- Fusion - Cup winners MVP for the final- Miss Ayla Ford(Fusion) Cheers Sam Lord (Shooting Stars) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 16:34:16 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MGXEd18038 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:33:14 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MDdGM28774 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:39:16 GMT Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MDdFg20021 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:39:15 GMT Received: from Marfleet11@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 8.43.1260253f (3858) for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:38:58 -0500 (EST) From: Marfleet11@aol.com Message-ID: <43.1260253f.27eb5a71@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:38:57 EST Subject: dads photos To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Phil, do you by any chance have Dad's original photos, which went into the book? Paul From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 17:14:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MHCBO09060 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:12:11 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MHC9M09040 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:12:09 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2MHC8L11849 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:12:08 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.98] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000139539; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:12:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3ABA325E.39009318@deepend.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 17:12:54 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Lord CC: Britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Scottish Qualifiers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Samuel Lord wrote: > MVP for the final- Miss Ayla Ford(Fusion) Just a typo, should be Isla Ford. :) Jes* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 18:54:22 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MIqE627806 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:52:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MIqCM27782 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:52:12 GMT Received: from web4303.mail.yahoo.com (web4303.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.195]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2MIpdL25595 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:51:53 GMT Message-ID: <20010322185134.4765.qmail@web4303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.112.59.122] by web4303.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:51:34 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:51:34 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mathew=20Edwards?= Subject: RE: tour1 To: Max Keogh , britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Max, Education is not a birthright, so yes I will continue to pay for my education with the money earned. If possible could you please forward on the details of your school/college because I think that it would suit my needs. I would like to learn to spull like wot you does. Well on second thoughts, don't. Yours grateful for the input Matt --- Max Keogh wrote: > Matt, > > Maybe with all this profit you're going to make to > can afford a decent > education so you can learn to spell and punctuate > properly. > > Max > :-o > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mathew Edwards > [mailto:matteedwards@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:23 PM > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Cc: adam.batchelor@virgin.net > Subject: tour1 > > > To all you smug people > > I personally am relieved that the confusion over > Fees > is sorted. Whilst none of the blaim can be allocated > to me, I want to make clear, that I blaim the other > two muppets. > Please note for the record " Im not best pleased > about > the profiteers backing down". I will be having words > with Fatboy about the rules of this game, I am sure > it > says in the profiteers handbook that the other side > are supposed to back down. > > Yours Unhappily > > Matt > > P.S. Adams the soft one of the family, I wanted to > charge £200 :-) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 20:08:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MK5eV02643 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:05:40 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MK5cM02632 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:05:38 GMT Received: from imo-r11.mx.aol.com (imo-r11.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.65]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MK5XL28576 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:05:33 GMT Received: from Marfleet11@aol.com by imo-r11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 8.b7.c762504 (4182) for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:05:17 -0500 (EST) From: Marfleet11@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:05:16 EST Subject: dads photos To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk How did I manage to send this to britdisc??!! Sorry folks By the way, looking through the archives I see that someone was trying to sell you all Growth Hormone by offering eternal youth. Interesting that they didn't delve into the side effects! Paul M ('ultimate doc!) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Thu Mar 22 20:15:03 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2MKEC906458 for britdisc-outgoing; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:14:12 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MKEBM06446 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:14:11 GMT Received: from trolley.tesco.net (trolley.tesco.net [194.73.73.166]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2MKEAg17255 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:14:10 GMT Received: from [212.140.73.41] (helo=Nancy) by trolley.tesco.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 14gBTA-0007YI-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:14:04 +0000 Message-ID: <009001c0b30b$dde728a0$29498cd4@Stebbing> From: "Nancy Stebbing" To: "britdisc" References: <046301c0b19f$5c804340$e001883e@ben> Subject: Re: Still Confused about Co-Ed Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:06:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Tony and others- Sorry for the delay in responding- I've been ill. Anyway- Mixed rosters are a different thing from Tour rosters. In the Mixed Series, you can tart around all you like during the regular events (ie anything but Nationals.) Play for a different team for every event if you like. The restriction comes into effect at Nationals- if you want to play for a team at Nationals you MUST HAVE PLAYED with that team at one of the Mixed Series Events. (That does not mean you can combine two teams at the last minute. You'd have to do that at one of the Mixed Series Events prior to Nationals.) So, you could enter a couple of different teams during the Series. But you must be sure that all of your Nationals players have played on whichever team you enter for Nationals. The complete rules will be posted as soon as I can keep my head out of the toilet long enough to update them. Also, I'll try to get them out at Tour 1 for those non-wired types. nancy From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 09:26:30 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2N9NKX11042 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:23:20 GMT Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2N9NIM11022 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:23:18 GMT X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 09:25:52 +0000 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: nessawhite@another.com Subject: Change of email addres Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk So I have had enough of all the junk mail and porn I get in my hotmail account and will be using this email address from now on, so please update your address books. Thanks Nessa Vanessa White nessawhite@another.com ----- Be passionate about your email Just click here: http://another.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 10:42:49 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NAfDs20119 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:41:13 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NAfBM20096 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:41:11 GMT Received: from web9502.mail.yahoo.com (web9502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.132]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2NAfAL01924 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 10:41:10 GMT Message-ID: <20010323104109.24798.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.106.154.10] by web9502.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 02:41:09 PST Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 02:41:09 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mike?= Subject: Irish wannabee wanted. To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: cmolony@rcsi.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Pookas, The premier Irish club are looking for a suitable candidate, to join them in the mixed division at Rimini this year. The Candidate, should have some of the following qualities. Male, Pale, Scrawny looking, Some morsel of Irish heritage, Sense of humour, The ability to moan about how the "Guinness doesn't taste that good away from home" Believe that U2 saved RocknRoll. If you think you fit the bill, give us a yell to meself or cmolony@rcsi.ie Thanks for your time. PS A good command of Dublin slang, would be an advantage. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 11:54:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NBr2i23780 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:53:02 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NBr0M23765 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:53:00 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f70.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.70]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NBqxg28524 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:52:59 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 03:52:53 -0800 Received: from 212.47.76.11 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:52:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.47.76.11] From: "Diana Worman" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Team Kit Available Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:52:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2001 11:52:53.0232 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAE8BF00:01C0B38F] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdisc, I have about 45 x-large white t-shirts available for no cost! I work at Macmillan Cancer Relief and we are not able to use these brand new t-shirts because they have a small outdated sponsor-logo on the front. So...if you would like to use this as kit for upcoming tournies,- e.g. Rimini, Indoors, Tour, training sessions...London Bullfrogs - perhaps you would like them as training tops? It would be great if you could give a small donation for these t-shirts, even if it's just 20/30 quid - we are a charity and unfortunately can't afford to ship them anywhere. However I live in London and am happy to meet anyone centrally. I can be contacted by this email or by work number - 020 8222 9013, or mobile 07747 783755. Kind regards Diana Worman _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 12:22:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NCLYA07778 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:21:34 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NCLWM07759 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:21:32 GMT Received: from maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.16]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NCLVg12007 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:21:31 GMT Received: from poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk [152.78.128.30]) by maple.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07231 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:21:30 GMT Received: from OT294620.phys.soton.ac.uk (phys-265.phys.soton.ac.uk [152.78.195.247]) by poplar.sucs.soton.ac.uk (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f2NCLTl04270 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:21:29 GMT From: rich abrams Reply-To: ra299@soton.ac.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Letherman Wave Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:20:03 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've only just realised that i can't find my letherman wave penknifey thing, and the last time i had it was at the plymouth tournie. It was a pretty tresured present and i'd be forever indebted to anyone who might have picked it up? rich skunks ---------------------- rich abrams ra299@soton.ac.uk From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 12:44:26 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NChE318621 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:43:14 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NChCM18610 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:43:12 GMT Received: from mailhost.deepend.co.uk (mailhost.deepend.co.uk [195.92.122.194]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2NChAL26752 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:43:10 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.158] (HELO deepend.co.uk) by mailhost.deepend.co.uk (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with ESMTP id S.0000143132 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:43:13 +0000 Message-ID: <3ABB44DB.3368DBC@deepend.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 12:44:50 +0000 From: JimJam Reply-To: jester@deepend.co.uk Organization: Deepend X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BritDisc Subject: Si Barry's phone number? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk If you have it please. Or if you're an Angel driving to Cheltenham please reply. Cheers Bes* Jes* From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 13:23:47 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NDN1808737 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:23:01 GMT Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NDMwM08713 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:22:58 GMT Received: from smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.104]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NDMvg12000 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:22:57 GMT Received: from pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.114]) by smtp5.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26452; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:22:51 GMT Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30406; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:22:50 GMT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: FAO: Indoor Nationals Entrants - Captain's Meeting & Schedule Info To: BritDisc , andrew.vaughan@royalsoc.ac.uk Cc: cjhughes@talk21.com, CHughes@chelt.ac.uk, w.retter@bigfoot.com Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 13:22:50 +0000 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Fri Mar 23 13:22:50 2001; Local host: pmweb8.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk THERE WILL BE NO CAPTAIN'S MEETING due to the fact that some teams would end up sat around for a couple of hours between the captain's meeting and their first game! We will have some info (the rest of the schedule, and the rules/info below) to give you when you arrive, though... so come and find Chris when you arrive. In the meantime, read and inwardly digest: - the tournament info/rules; - pools info; - schedule of first games; Note: Hardwick are having an Open Day on the Saturday, so there'll be numbers of prospective students (and parent!?) wandering around... be nice to them! Regards Wayne --- Indoor Info 2001.doc --- National Indoor Ultimate Championships 24th & 25th March 2001 Cheltenham Recreation Centre & Hardwick Campus Welcome to the 2001 National Indoor Ultimate Championships. I hope you all enjoy your weekend, and that we all get to see and play some good Ultimate. As well as the tournament, we are also trying to raise the awareness of the sport in the area so please offer explanation and assistance to any interested spectators that may be looking bemused. Scoring  In an attempt to make the tournament progress easier teams will be required to score. The winners of each game will be required to score the game following theirs in that hall. You will need to nominate someone to score immediately after your game.  If you do not score we will assume that you did not win your game and your results will be adjusted accordingly. (Teams last on on Saturday will not be required to score games first thing on Sunday) Games  We have three pitches , although at some stage we are reduced to only two. Make sure that you are fully aware of the time and location of all your games. You should have 5 pool games – check your schedule.  Hall A is the Recreation Centre main Hall; Hall B is the Hardwick Hall; Hall C is the Recreation Centre Cricket Hall.  All games are 23 minutes long or first to 13 points. The game finishes at the hooter, discs in the air may be caught. Games can be tied.  Knockout games are 23 minutes or first to 13 points. The game finishes at the hooter, discs in the air may be caught. Games cannot be tied; if at time the score is level when the hooter sounds then play continues without a check until there is a winner.  Rules concerning pulls are identical to outdoors, excluding the brick rule. Pulls that lands out of bounds at any stage may be middled either at the front of the end-zone or level with where they left the confines of the pitch. Discs that land in and slide out of the pitch must be played at the point where they left the pitch proper. If a disc slides out of the endzone then the disc may be brought forward in line with where it left the pitch. Discs that land in or caught must be played from where possession is gained. A dropped disc is a turnover. Pulls must be flat and catchable in the endzone.  No time-outs are allowed other than for injury. Pools  Four pools of six teams, and teams will move between halls. All teams within a pool play at the same time.  Final positions are decided on no. of wins, no. of draws; points difference between tied teams, points for between tied teams, total points difference, total points for. If this does not separate teams then results against the highest placed teams in the pool, in order, will be considered until the teams can be separated. Knockout  The top two teams from each pool progress to the eight team championship knockout, middle two to the Plate title, and bottom two to the Spoon title.  Each team retains the seeding position for that pool depending on its finishing position, and then the schedule is based on game numbers. E.g. LA33 – is the losers of game 33 in hall A; WC44 – winners of game 44 in hall C. General  During Saturday Lunchtime there is an open day at C&G College and prospective student and parents will be shown round by senior members of the college. Please ensure that you are courteous and do not present an obstruction.  Both sites are open to the public, so can all players please be considerate to spectators throughout both sites. This means, please do not throw in corridors, and remember that you are on display, as well as the sport.  Consider the security of your property at all times, both in the halls and also in the car parks.  Please ensure that when you cheer you are not disturbing others, or blocking access ways.  Please attempt to place rubbish in bins so that staff are not constantly cleaning up behind you.  There should be game discs available per pitch, please do not remove these.  Accommodation is available at Northlands Youth Arts Centre. Limited bed space is available at £5, or else floor space is available at £1 per player. See Chris or Wayne for accommodation arrangements.  Yet again we shall be invading the ‘Fish and Fiddle’ (Check maps for location). There is no dress code and a minor charge after 10:00pm for entrance.  Both site will have ice, and limited first aid for players. Ask members of staff for assistance.  If you have any questions or are aware of any problems please tell us rather than moaning about it afterwards. --- end Indoor Info 2001.doc --- --- Pools --- SATURDAY POOLS A1 MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS A2 HAMMERAGE A3 MR MEN A4 FAR FLUNG A5 JEDI A6 WHIPLASH B1 YO MAMA B2 FUSION B3 HEADRUSH B4 BEARS B5 RANDOM FLING B6 SPACE MONKEYS C1 STRANGE BLUE C2 BLUE ARSE FLIES C3 FAT TED'S C4 SUBLIME C5 KAMAYA MAYA C6 MOHAWKS D1 SHRUB D2 CHEVRON ACTION FLASH D3 SHOOTING STARS D4 ANGELS D5 PHAT EDS D6 MILD MANNERED JANITORS --- end Pools --- --- Schedule --- HALL A - Recreation Centre GAME TIME HALL A 1 09:00 SHRUB D1 v D4 ANGELS 2 09:25 SHOOTING STARS D3 v D6 MILD MANNERED JANITORS 3 09:50 HAMMERAGE A2 v A5 JEDI 4 10:15 YO MAMA B1 v B4 BEARS 5 10:40 HEADRUSH B3 v B6 SPACE MONKEYS 6 11:05 BLUE ARSE FLIES C2 v C5 KAMAYA MAYA HALL B - Hardwick GAME TIME HALL B 1 09:00 CHEVRON ACTION FLASH D2 v D5 PHAT EDS 2 09:25 MEXICAN HORSE BANDITS A1 v A4 FAR FLUNG 3 09:50 MR MEN A3 v A6 WHIPLASH 4 10:15 FUSION B2 v B5 RANDOM FLING 5 10:40 STRANGE BLUE C1 v C4 SUBLIME 6 11:05 FAT TED'S C3 v C6 MOHAWKS HALL C - Recreation Centre Cricket Hall no games until GAME 11 --- end Schedule --- -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 16:33:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NGWIT13604 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:18 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NGWEM13570 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:14 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (f115.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.115]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NGWDL17418 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:13 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:32:06 -0800 Received: from 212.59.97.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.59.97.12] From: "Tom Styles (Block Stack)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Helpers wanted for Nationals Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:32:06 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2001 16:32:06.0762 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCCA8CA0:01C0B3B6] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear all, Due to unfortunate circumstances we are a couple of team members down for filming this weekend. If you are coming to nationals and not playing but would like to get involved (Camera people needed) then come and see us on Saturday Morning and tell us what you'd like to do. We will get by with the team that we have but a couple of extra people would be very helpful. Thanks to for all the team details, looking forward to a great tournament. Regards to all Tom www.blockstack.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Fri Mar 23 16:45:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2NGj6720266 for britdisc-outgoing; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:45:06 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2NGj1M20226 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:45:01 GMT Received: from web11603.mail.yahoo.com (web11603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.55]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2NGj0L23495 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:45:00 GMT Message-ID: <20010323164458.95426.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.83.240.18] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:44:58 PST Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 08:44:58 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Brooks Subject: Looking for DJ To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Sorry to bother everyone - anyone know DJs address please? Cheers kos __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Sat Mar 24 10:43:34 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2OAg3M05958 for britdisc-outgoing; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:42:03 GMT Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2OAg2M05949 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:42:02 GMT Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2OAg1L08933 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 10:42:02 GMT Received: from Ukroxy@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 8.ce.126d595f (4312) for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: Ukroxy@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:41:53 EST Subject: (no subject) To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce.126d595f.27edd3f1_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 58 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --part1_ce.126d595f.27edd3f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsuscribe britdisc --part1_ce.126d595f.27edd3f1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsuscribe britdisc --part1_ce.126d595f.27edd3f1_boundary-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 10:04:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2Q90rU06492 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:00:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2Q90px06473 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:00:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from bluews.com ([193.123.230.61]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2Q90jg04274 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:00:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from seer.bws_europe.bluews.com by bluews.com;Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:02:12 GMT id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:45:05 +0100 Message-ID: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C72B@bluews.com> From: Stephen Giguere To: "'britdisc'" Subject: The flying leap point Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:53:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey britdiscers, Something that's getting more and more frequently in these indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point. It's particularly popular against a flood defence. My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous tactic. It's only a matter of time before some clever individual sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team. In the smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was thankful is wasn't one of our women. I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to be dangerous play. The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then waste time bickering about it. I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path. You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then, that's correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards into the wall. -Steve and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 11:37:53 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QAOMe20812 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:24:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QAODx20722 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:24:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (th-gt144-164.pool.dircon.co.uk [194.112.59.164]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QAOAg14631 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:24:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from ralf ([10.226.114.163]) by chinstrap.intranet.cabal.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f2QAHW211046; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:17:32 GMT From: "Ranulf Doswell" To: "Britdisc" , "Stephen Giguere" Subject: RE: The flying leap point Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:21:09 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C72B@bluews.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really > annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous > tactic. [...] > You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through > someone it's an offensive foul. Yes and no. If you are aiming to deliberately jump into a defensive player, then without a doubt it is a foul, and should be called. Usually, however, this time of move is made into a space, and collisions occur when the defence close up into that space. In this case, if the offensive player is already in the air, then it's clearly a foul against him, as he can't change his direction. Another thing I think is worth bringing up is a call that occurred in one of our games. Basically, we called double team at one point when three defenders were crowding round one offensive player in the zone. The other team moaned, saying that "there *must* be an exception for zone play". Now, as far as I know, the only time it isn't a double team is if you're sufficient close to another offensive player to be deemed marking him. Bearing this in mind, it's probably fair to say that on most occasions of a zone defense that I've seen, there probably is a double team going on. Notably, the better teams who use zone defense have three markers spread across the width of the zone. However, on some occasions over the weekend, I saw four, and once, five, defensive players at the front of the zone. With defensive players this close together with only one offensive player nearby, it's surely highly likely that two of them are within one metre of him. Ralf / Whiplash. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 11:41:52 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QAf5k27770 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:41:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QAf3x27762 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:41:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QAf3L11052 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:41:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk ([139.184.24.12] ident=root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 14hUQV-000432-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:40:43 +0100 Received: from kduk5 (helo=localhost) by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.20 #10) id 14hUQX-000501-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:40:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:40:45 +0100 (BST) From: Steven Prince To: Subject: Flying Leap Point Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reckless play isn't really acceptable I agree, but it is down to the player to make the decision every time whether or not they are risking injuring another player. If they think they may collide then it shouldn't be attempted and it is surely a spirit foul if not an actual foul if they do. However this tactic can be used very effectively against against a flat four in the zone where options are limited. Teams which can't be bothered to play proper D and pull out the bullshit flat four could be perhaps be seen to be encouraging this kind of Jump in though...... Roof From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 12:05:41 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QB4ak08185 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:04:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QB4Zx08176 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:04:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f209.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.209]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QB4Ug02140 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:04:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:04:23 -0800 Received: from 145.246.25.99 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:04:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [145.246.25.99] From: "Indoors Sucks" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The Flying Leap Point Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:04:22 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2001 11:04:23.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[8390CDD0:01C0B5E4] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk This brings us nicely to the point that basically, when all is said and done... INDOORS SHOULD BE BANNED. You could write a thesis on this, so suffice to say that it's an insult to a beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term development of Ultimate. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 12:31:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QBUag22194 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:30:36 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBUYx22181 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:30:34 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.totalise.co.uk (mail.totalise.co.uk [212.1.157.18]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBUYg13276 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:30:34 +0100 (BST) X-WM-Posted-At: mail.totalise.co.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 01 12:30:23 +0100 X-WebMail-UserID: ruth11 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:30:23 +0100 From: Ruth Taylor To: britdisc X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000112 Subject: RE: The flying leap point Message-ID: <3C23C46F@mail.totalise.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: InterChange (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk We all play this sport expecting a little bit of contact, despite it being a "non-contact" sport. You can't tell me that you've never been clobbered by somebody when you've gone up for a 50/50 disc. I agree that this particular play might be deemed "asking for it" on the part of the offensive player, but as you say, it would be an offensive foul. This in itself should be enough to make the O player pick his spot and land without touching another player. Personally, I reckon that more often than not, when the O player has aready lept, seeing a gap, the D player then decides to move into the path of the leap to try to stop it. That's instinctive and is probably more what like what happens - it all happens so fast it's hard to tell. But in that case, it's the D player's own fault. As a woman who plays this game, I don't expect the men to pull their plays just because I'm on the pitch and hate the way you mentioned that you were only glad it wasn't one of your female players who got hit. How patronising? We may be smaller and lighter than you lads, but we play knowing the risks and are prepared to take it. If we weren't, we'd all stick to women's Ultimate. As far as I'm concerned, this play is fine. If I'm hit, I'll call it. If I'm injured, it was an accident - I'm sure the O player didn't mean to do it. I dunno, next you'll be saying that a lay-out D bid is dangerous and shouldn't be attempted because you "might" take out the offensive player! >===== Original Message From Stephen Giguere ===== >Hey britdiscers, > >Something that's getting more and more frequently in these >indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter >of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air >to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point. It's >particularly popular against a flood defence. >My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really >annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous >tactic. It's only a matter of time before some clever individual >sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team. In the >smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and >a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a >member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious >injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder >quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was >thankful is wasn't one of our women. >I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this >received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing >body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to >be dangerous play. >The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency >for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime >catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then >waste time bickering about it. >I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation >and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor >teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these >Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a >good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path. >You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through >someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then, that's >correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might >end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards >into the wall. > >-Steve >and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes. ----------------------- The Totalise Email system, probably the most flexible email system in the world. To register for an account goto http:/www.totalise.net From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 12:35:43 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QBYpB24204 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:34:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBYmx24180 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:34:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from rinka.central.susx.ac.uk (root@rinka.central.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.19]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBYmL03814 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:34:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from keeler.central.susx.ac.uk ([139.184.24.12] ident=root) by rinka.central.susx.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #3) id 14hVGe-0006wW-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:34:36 +0100 Received: from kduk5 (helo=localhost) by keeler.central.susx.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.20 #10) id 14hVGh-0005sk-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:34:39 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:34:39 +0100 (BST) From: Steven Prince To: Subject: Re:indoors sucks Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk A fair and valid point, it does suck the jib and even calling it ultimate is stretching the imagination considerably. Interesting that you remained anonymous on that last mail though! Attend any recent indoor tournies did we? Roof Don't ask me the same question please as I'll end up looking like a dick. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 12:46:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QBiri29209 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:44:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBiqx29194 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:44:52 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (10.spencerstuart.enterconnect.net [216.80.20.106]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2QBiog20095 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:44:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.51.1.50 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:46:34 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by eurmailhub.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:44:56 +0100 Message-ID: <1CE8BED757A5D411B85F0002B30806B704F2A4@frantapp01.spencerstuart.com> From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: indoors sucks Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:42:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2QBiqx29197 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I've obviously been out the country too long: what on earth is "sucking the jib"? You crazy youngsters, I don't know.... Any chance of some results from Nationals, then we can all start looking forward to playing in the wind and the rain? Cheers Wayne ex-pretty much every team, UK currently-any team that'll have me, Germany -----Original Message----- From: Steven Prince [mailto:kduk5@central.susx.ac.uk] Sent: Montag, 26. März 2001 13:35 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re:indoors sucks A fair and valid point, it does suck the jib and even calling it ultimate is stretching the imagination considerably. Interesting that you remained anonymous on that last mail though! Attend any recent indoor tournies did we? Roof Don't ask me the same question please as I'll end up looking like a dick. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 12:52:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QBpjr02661 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:51:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBpgx02620 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:51:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from mx1.organic.com (mx1.organic.com [207.76.139.5]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QBpfg23472 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:51:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from vw-sf.organic.com (vw-sf.organic.com [207.76.139.10]) by mx1.organic.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA06870 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: FROM fwd1-sf.organic.com BY vw-sf.organic.com ; Mon Mar 26 03:51:28 2001 -0800 Received: from po1-lon.organic.com (bath.organic.com [192.168.136.7]) by fwd1-sf.organic.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27100; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 03:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from SIMONSPARE ([192.168.136.210]) by po1-lon.organic.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20113; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:52:45 GMT Message-ID: <006401c0b5ea$fd9d40d0$d288a8c0@SIMONSPARE> From: "Simon Norris" To: "Steven Prince" , References: Subject: Re: Re:indoors sucks Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:50:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I challenge you to see the indoor game played in scandinavia where the standard is very high, and still say it sucks. This is also coming the day after a very well organised and high quality National finals, show some respect guys! Simon - currently injured from indoors, admittedly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Prince" To: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: Re:indoors sucks > > A fair and valid point, it does suck the jib and even calling it > ultimate is stretching the > imagination considerably. Interesting that you remained anonymous on > that last mail though! Attend any recent indoor tournies did we? > > Roof > > Don't ask me the same question please as I'll end up looking like a > dick. > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 13:16:04 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QCDv713934 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:13:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCDtx13920 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:13:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f87.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.87]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCDsg04423 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:13:54 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:13:42 -0800 Received: from 194.217.129.254 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:13:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.217.129.254] From: "Babe Basher" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoors Sucks Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:13:42 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2001 12:13:42.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[32FD5140:01C0B5EE] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I disagree. It's helped me (and other academics)to secure substantial government grants for 12 years. Infact, I have for the past 10 years, been conducting specific research for my thesis (to be published soon) which addresses the different chaffing effects caused to nipples by varying gym floor surfaces. I think I'll calling it "Ultimate Chaffing". -----Original Message----- From: Indoors Sucks [mailto:ban_indoors@hotmail.com] Sent: 26 March 2001 12:04 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The Flying Leap Point This brings us nicely to the point that basically, when all is said and done... INDOORS SHOULD BE BANNED. You could write a thesis on this, so suffice to say that it's an insult to a beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term development of Ultimate. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 13:18:24 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QCHnw15963 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:17:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCHlx15948 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:17:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from bluews.com ([193.123.230.61]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2QCHjg06215 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:17:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from seer.bws_europe.bluews.com by bluews.com;Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:19:01 GMT id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:02:11 +0100 Message-ID: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C732@bluews.com> From: Stephen Giguere To: britdisc Subject: RE: The flying leap point Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:10:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ruth and others, My apologies for patronising women. You're correct. In retrospect I should have said smaller players since it was one of our bigger guys that had to 'take it'. One of our smaller guys would have felt more serious effects as much as our women. As for your point, the typical scenario is... O player sees gap, runs and jumps looking to handler for the pass, lands in the zone. Point. If the hole was still there because it was a big enough gap then good, the handler could have led the pass into the end zone for the running player and not the leaping player. Really the leaping point play is simply dangerous whether some people are prepared to take it or not. If you can make a hole leaping then you can make it running. Leaping is insurance since once in the air heading towards a gap and you can't change your path it seems to declare you innocent of all potential fouls. Even if the hole was small if any D player dares to enter to take the hit it's "their own fault". Hence my later issue of the Michael Jordan point. Shall I get our indoor team out at the track practicing long jump then? Myself I could easily get 10 feet+. Then I see a two foot wide hole in the zone as long as it's still there when I leave the ground I'm home free. This is what you're telling me? This is a good idea? As for the D player moving into the hole and taking it. Since it does happen so fast a D player can start his motion towards the hole as the O player starts his run. The O player however leaps into the air at which time most D players hit the brakes and the O lands. Perhaps the D players should leap into the air as well and in the fashion of some of the kung fu movies clash with the O in mid air both of course fault free. Layout D but not aiming for the disc. In fact it might be in the best interest of the D player to leap regardles of whether the O player is attempting one of these points because it would work either way to take out a running player or leaping player. Certainly would make the game more spectacular. Hey why don't we just all give up ultimate and go play american football. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruth Taylor [mailto:ruth11@totalise.co.uk] > Sent: 26 March 2001 12:30 > To: britdisc > Subject: RE: The flying leap point > > > We all play this sport expecting a little bit of contact, > despite it being a > "non-contact" sport. > You can't tell me that you've never been clobbered by > somebody when you've > gone up for a 50/50 disc. > > I agree that this particular play might be deemed "asking for > it" on the part > of the offensive player, but as you say, it would be an > offensive foul. > This in itself should be enough to make the O player pick his > spot and land > without touching another player. Personally, I reckon that > more often than > not, when the O player has aready lept, seeing a gap, the D > player then > decides to move into the path of the leap to try to stop it. That's > instinctive and is probably more what like what happens - it > all happens so > fast it's hard to tell. But in that case, it's the D player's > own fault. > > As a woman who plays this game, I don't expect the men to > pull their plays > just because I'm on the pitch and hate the way you mentioned > that you were > only glad it wasn't one of your female players who got hit. > How patronising? > We may be smaller and lighter than you lads, but we play > knowing the risks and > are prepared to take it. If we weren't, we'd all stick to > women's Ultimate. > > As far as I'm concerned, this play is fine. If I'm hit, I'll > call it. If I'm > injured, it was an accident - I'm sure the O player didn't > mean to do it. > > I dunno, next you'll be saying that a lay-out D bid is > dangerous and shouldn't > be attempted because you "might" take out the offensive player! > > >===== Original Message From Stephen Giguere > ===== > >Hey britdiscers, > > > >Something that's getting more and more frequently in these > >indoor games is this "play" of running in from a half to a quarter > >of the pitch away from the opposite zone, leaping into the air > >to catch the disc and fly into the end zone for the point. It's > >particularly popular against a flood defence. > >My question is... does anyone realise that this is not only really > >annoying and exhibits rather poor spirit, but is a rather dangerous > >tactic. It's only a matter of time before some clever individual > >sails into the zone and takes out someone on our team. In the > >smaller gymnasiums the wall is only just behind the defender and > >a direct collision from someone at speed in the air into a > >member of the opposing team's defence could result in very serious > >injury. I know one of my team member was clipped in the shoulder > >quite hard during one of these plays on the weekend and I was > >thankful is wasn't one of our women. > >I've played in both the States and Canada and tactics like this > >received rather harsh punishment from the leagues governing > >body and the tour directors as it is considered by the rules to > >be dangerous play. > >The annoying aspect of it aside from the above is the tendency > >for people with bad timing to try it again and again everytime > >catching the disc and THEN jumping into the zone and then > >waste time bickering about it. > >I don't expect anyone to read this email and have a revelation > >and never do it again but it would be nice for next years indoor > >teams to try to get a handle on it before we end up with these > >Michael Jordan points flying in from 6 feet outside the zone a > >good 4 feet in the air clobbering anything it it's path. > >You could say it's a perfectly legal play and if you move through > >someone it's an offensive foul. Ok fine, no point then, that's > >correct but it doesn't change the fact that one of our players might > >end up with a concussion or worse from being sent backwards > >into the wall. > > > >-Steve > >and yes I do realise these points happen accidentally sometimes. > > > ----------------------- > The Totalise Email system, probably the most flexible email > system in the > world. To register for an account goto http:/www.totalise.net > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 13:24:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QCNI418885 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:23:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCNGx18868 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:23:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f269.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.20.144]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCNFg09002 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:23:16 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:23:09 -0800 Received: from 194.217.129.254 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:23:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.217.129.254] From: "Babe Basher" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Indoors Sucks Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:23:08 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2001 12:23:09.0075 (UTC) FILETIME=[8479A630:01C0B5EF] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I disagree. It's helped me (and other academics) to secure substantial government grants for me for 12 years. Infact, I have for the past 10 years, been conducting specific research for my thesis (to be published soon) which addresses the different chaffing effects caused to nipples by varying gym floor surfaces. I think I'll calling it "Ultimate Chaffing". -----Original Message----- From: Indoors Sucks [mailto:ban_indoors@hotmail.com] Sent: 26 March 2001 12:04 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: The Flying Leap Point This brings us nicely to the point that basically, when all is said and done... INDOORS SHOULD BE BANNED. You could write a thesis on this, so suffice to say that it's an insult to a beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term development of Ultimate. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 13:37:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QCa7424466 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:36:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCa6x24456 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:36:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f76.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.76]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QCa5g12307 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:36:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 04:35:59 -0800 Received: from 193.82.207.252 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:35:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [193.82.207.252] From: "Gareth Goo" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Indoor sucks Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:35:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2001 12:35:59.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F83D700:01C0B5F1] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Indoor Ultimate sucks" ???? what the ?? >"INDOORS SHOULD BE BANNED. You could write a thesis on this, so suffice to say that it's an insult to a beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term development of Ultimate. "< Hmmmm, obvioulsy Mr (Or Miss, Ms, Mrs) Annonymous wasn't at Cheltenham at the weekend. Indoors requires different skils to outdoor, one of which is faster handling skills and also to a certain extent more accuracy on the throws since the target area is going to be smaller than on an outdoor pitch. Could it be that the author has some problems with the above skills and that's why they aren't keen on Indoor Ultimate? Awwwwww....I would suggest an alternative "Indoor" sport that he/she could play on their own, but I get the feeling they already are a major force to be reckoned with in that area! Thanks for a great INDOOR Nationals. Gareth - Hammerage Ps: Si - you are the weakest link.......goodbye! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 13:44:23 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QChkF27074 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:43:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from [137.205.222.1] (mac-wie-31 [137.205.222.1]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QChix27054 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:43:44 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: serai@mail.csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:46:25 +0100 To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk From: Jonathan Hope Subject: DEEP - Party in EC1 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk From: Jonathan Hope Subject: DEEP - Party in EC1 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:46:42 +0100 My brother Nick is a DJ in London and this coming Saturday he's organised a party at a club in EC1 - and told me to bring along as many ultimate players (and their friends) as want to come! The venue sounds good - it's just around the corner from "Fabric" - and the entry fee is a mere 3 quid.... Anyone who was at WUCC'99 in St.Andrews will remember the parties - that was Nick doing his thing, though DEEP is likely to be more house-oriented. If any further incentive is required, I should perhaps mention that many of the other invited guests will be models - so there should be one or two pretty fellas and handsome gals about (though distinguishing them from the ultimate players won't be easy, right?!)... Hope to see some of you there. Get in touch if you want more information. Cheers Jon Hope [NB Large file attachment deleted for brevity - ask Jon if you want a copy] From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 14:02:37 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QD1MK03987 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:01:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QD1Lx03976 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:01:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from proxy1.richardsbutler.com (mail.richardsbutler.com [195.152.50.2]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2QD1Kg15797 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:01:20 +0100 (BST) Received: by RBLON18 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:00:08 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Stanwell-Smith, Helen" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk, "'Indoors Sucks'" Subject: Why?? Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:00:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Mr "Sucks" Something I have constantly failed to understand about certain members of the ultimate community is their antipathy towards indoor ultimate. Indoor ultimate is certainly not the same as outdoor ultimate in terms of the stamina and disk skills needed and few people would claim that it was - but why do you have a problem with that? Indoor ultimate is fun to play and a good way to keep fit without having to brave the elements in the lovely British winter. Yes, there are injury problems with walls/floors indoors but, from what I have seen, I would say that there were just as many injuries sustained in outdoor matches. Why can you not accept it as a different game with the same relationship as, say 11 a side football to 5 a side football? - Both have their advantages and disadvantages but you dont hear 11 a side teams calling for 5 a side to be banned. As for being "detrimental to the long term future of ultimate" - why should a venue which is so" beginner friendly" be detrimental to the future of the sport? If you dont enjoy playing indoor ultimate - Dont slag it off using an anonymous identity - just dont play it. Helen > ---------- > From: Indoors Sucks[SMTP:ban_indoors@hotmail.com] > Sent: 26 March 2001 12:04 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: The Flying Leap Point > > This brings us nicely to the point that basically, when all is said and > done... > > INDOORS SHOULD BE BANNED. > > You could write a thesis on this, so suffice to say that it's an insult to > a > beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term development of > Ultimate. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > RICHARDS BUTLER INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM This e-mail is confidential and may be protected by legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy it, re-transmit it, use it or disclose its contents, but should return it to the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. Thank you for your cooperation. Authorised by the Law Society to conduct investment business. 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Further information can be found at http://www.richardsbutler.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 14:07:55 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QD7Cs06113 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:07:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QD7Bx06104 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:07:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f31.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.31]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QD7AL16558 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:07:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 05:07:00 -0800 Received: from 194.217.129.254 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:07:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.217.129.254] From: "Ms Whiplash" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Re: Indoor sucks Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 13:07:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2001 13:07:00.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[A522CC30:01C0B5F5] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk And what exactly is wrong with a spot of sado masochism to accompany my afternoon tea? Mme Indoor Ultimate sucks" ???? what the ?? >"INDOORS SHOULD BE BANNED. You could write a thesis on this, so suffice to say that it's an insult to a beautiful sport and is detrimental to the long term development of Ultimate. "< Hmmmm, obvioulsy Mr (Or Miss, Ms, Mrs) Annonymous wasn't at Cheltenham at the weekend. Indoors requires different skils to outdoor, one of which is faster handling skills and also to a certain extent more accuracy on the throws since the target area is going to be smaller than on an outdoor pitch. Could it be that the author has some problems with the above skills and that's why they aren't keen on Indoor Ultimate? Awwwwww....I would suggest an alternative "Indoor" sport that he/she could play on their own, but I get the feeling they already are a major force to be reckoned with in that area! Thanks for a great INDOOR Nationals. Gareth - Hammerage Ps: Si - you are the weakest link.......goodbye! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 14:27:31 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QDQE715368 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:26:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QDQCx15351 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:26:12 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net (smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.105]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QDQBL25297 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:26:11 +0100 (BST) Received: from pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net [212.57.34.101]) by smtp7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17381 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:24:27 +0100 Received: (from pmweb@localhost) by pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07763; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:23:25 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Wayne Retter" Subject: Indoor Nationals Results To: BritDisc Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:23:25 +0100 Reply-To: w.retter@bigfoot.com X-Postmaster: Sent from Postmaster http://www.postmaster.co.uk/, the world's premier free web-based email service, based in London, England. X-Postmaster-Trace: Account name: wretter; Local time: Mon Mar 26 14:23:25 2001; Local host: pmweb7.uk1.bibliotech.net; Remote host: 62.172.72.66; Referer site: www.postmaster.co.uk X-Complaints-To: Administrator@postmaster.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk BUF National Indoor Championships Dates: 24 + 25 March 2001 Venue: Cheltenham Recreation Centre and Cheltenham & Gloucester College Hardwick Sports Hall Tournament Directors: Layout Dreams (Chris Hughes and Wayne Retter) FORMAT: Teams qualify from teh Regional Championships; Four pools of 6 playing round robin, becoming 3 divisions of 8, playing quarters, semis, and finals for positions. All games were to 23 minutes or 13 points, except the Final, which was to 23 minutes plus a 2 point cap. Draws were allowed in pool games, but not in the knockouts. RESULTS (also showing Regional finishing positions) SOTG Shooting Stars TROPHY 1 Mexican Horse Bandits (M1) 2 Blue Arse Flies (M2) 3 Shrub (SW1) 4 Fusion (Sc1) 5 Yo Mama (N1) 6 Hammerage (L2) 7 Fat Ted's Ultimate Club (N3) 8 Angels (L3) PLATE 9 Headrush (SW3) 10 Bears (M3) 11 Strange Blue (L1) 12 Mohawks (SW5) 13 Jedi (N4) 14 Mr Men (SW2) 15 Chevron Action Flash (N2) 16 Phat Eds (N5) SPOON 17 Sublime (SW4) 18 Whiplash (M7) 19 Far Flung (Sc5) 20 Kamaya Maya (M5) 21 Mild Mannered Janitors (M6) 22 Space Monkeys (N7) 23 Random Fling (M4) 24 Shooting Stars (Sc2) Sc=Scotland; N=North; M=Midlands; L=London; SW=SouthWest THANKS TO: Cheltenham Recreation Centre staff, esp Tracey Milligan, our contact; Harwick Sports Centre staff; "BlockStack and 2 Smoking Hammers" - for coming to film the whole thing (note: they have a video to sell you!); 24 teams for attending - esp Kamaya Maya, Mild Mannered Janitors and Whiplash for being able to field teams with a max of 48 hours notice! The people that made it happen on Sunday morning at 09:00(whilst the TDs were still asleep!) esp Dora Kemp; James "Balti" Hewitson and Jeff Jackson. LOST PROPERTY We have a (suprisingly?) small quantity - more news on that later. Wayne Retter and Chris Hughes Layout Dreams -- Wayne Retter w.retter@bigfoot.com mobile: +44/0-7970-903420 office: +44/0-1737-273655 From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 15:56:08 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QErOA27826 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:53:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QErMx27814 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:53:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail01.community.net.uk (mail01.community.net.uk [195.72.164.132]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QErMg08383 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:53:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from oxtutor.community.co.uk ([195.72.164.109] helo=hercules.oxfordtutorialcollege.ac.uk) by mail.community.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 14hYMy-0001cQ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:53:20 +0100 Received: by HERCULES with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:23:18 +0100 Message-ID: <0FB424FA1B6ED4118BB600B0D03E1CF101FF78@HERCULES> From: Jonathan Hope To: "'britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk'" Subject: DEEP - Party Details Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:23:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2QErNx27815 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Since Britdisc failed to forward the flashy attachment I sent out about the party, here are the basics for anyone who's interested: DEEP PRODUCTIONS dynamic & uplifting house DJ's: Nick Hope & Ingrid Sat 31st March Dome: 57 - 59 Charterhouse St, EC1 Farringdon Tube 9.00pm - 2.00am Entry £3.00 hope to see you there! Jon Hope From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 17:28:32 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QGOHK14251 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:24:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QGOFx14238 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:24:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from web12606.mail.yahoo.com (web12606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.229]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2QGO9g22610 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:24:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20010326162408.48548.qmail@web12606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.115.255.24] by web12606.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:24:08 BST Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:24:08 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Waite?= Subject: re: the flying leap point. To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Stephen, This is the first time I have written to britdisc - but i've made an exception in this case. The intention of most players who do this are aiming for the gaps not the opponents. In majority of cases the people that get hit during this play are the people without the spirit, since in most cases they are trying to impead the offensive players progress into the endzone by stepping across creating a forceout. I don't like it when fellow frisbee players get injured, but I don't feel that one of the few options against this defence should be stopped just because of the unco-ordinated people that can't tell the difference between a gap and a person. Voodoo. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 18:45:29 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QHhK521324 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:43:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QHhIx21310 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:43:18 +0100 (BST) Received: from bluews.com ([193.123.230.61]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2QHhDg29490 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:43:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from seer.bws_europe.bluews.com by bluews.com;Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:44:28 GMT id ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:27:38 +0100 Message-ID: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C73B@bluews.com> From: Stephen Giguere To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: RE: the flying leap point. Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:36:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hey Paul, I can't argue it anymore. Has that play always been around with indoors? I've always been outdoors for the most part so perhaps that's my problem. Too used to the big end zone where this stuff isn't needed. Thankfully it's outdoor season again so I've got til next winter to figure out how to defend against this crouching tiger offence without resorting to a flailing kangaroo defence. Thanks Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Waite [mailto:voodoo_1978@yahoo.co.uk] > Sent: 26 March 2001 17:24 > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > Subject: re: the flying leap point. > > > Stephen, > > This is the first time I have written to britdisc - > but i've made an exception in this case. > The intention of most players who do this are aiming > for the gaps not the opponents. > In majority of cases the people that get hit during > this play are the people without the spirit, since in > most cases they are trying to impead the offensive > players progress into the endzone by stepping across > creating a forceout. > I don't like it when fellow frisbee players get > injured, but I don't feel that one of the few options > against this defence should be stopped just because of > the unco-ordinated people that can't tell the > difference between a gap and a person. > > > > Voodoo. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 20:29:10 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QJQ4j01384 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:26:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QJQ3x01373 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:26:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from mh-a05.dmz.another.com (vs-a01.funmail.co.uk [212.62.7.9]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2QJPvL14441 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:25:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 3457 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2001 19:16:54 -0000 Received: from www-a23.backend.another.com (HELO www-a23) (172.16.100.23) by mh-a05.dmz.another.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2001 19:16:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20117464.985634784516.JavaMail.nobody@smtp.backend.another.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:26:24 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: gordonthomas@misfit.co.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: telephone no. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="17211719.985634784259.JavaMail.nobody@www-a23" X-Funmail-UID: 328359 X-Senders-IP: unknown Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk --17211719.985634784259.JavaMail.nobody@www-a23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone have tom (slip disc) supple's telephone no. please? i'm thinking maybe jack goulden, chevron, might have it? please help me out. cheers gordon thomas. groove (japan) and sometime slip disc. ----- 20 email addresses from 15,000 domain names - free at http://www.another.com --17211719.985634784259.JavaMail.nobody@www-a23-- From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 21:52:35 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QKoii07481 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:50:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QKohx07467 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:50:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.195.175]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QKoag27312 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:50:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from modem-53.boron.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.4.53] helo=ben) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14hdwT-0001dZ-00 for britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: <00e201c0b637$75fc4f20$3504883e@ben> From: "Ben Ravilious" To: "BRITDISC" References: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C73B@bluews.com> Subject: Re: the flying leap point. Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:55:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Probably of more importance is the whole issue of using the walls as boundaries indoors. In the last couple of years we have had two cases which have become litigious with players sustaining bad injuries through hitting the wall and/or other objects in the hall. I think the time may be approaching when we need to audit our injuries and see if there are any measures we could take to reduce them. Not using the walls as boundaries is an obvious one. Others maybe worth considering (thanks to Paul Marfleet for recent help with safety ideas) :- 1. Stopping people leaving their bags near the sideline. 2. Using the basketball 'key' as the endzone instead of the last few metres of the court. Apparently this works perfectly well in New Zealand (?). The emphasis would be on jumping into the endzone rather than dangerous jumps towards the side walls. Suppose it doesn't really solve the 'flying leap' issue though. 3. Keeping the floor clean (some TD's already do this) 4. Stopping anyone from playing whilst drunk. People become less aware, less cautious and more oblivious to pain and danger when they're pissed. We've all done it and it can seem a laugh until it goes wrong. Basically its all about cutting down risks. Maybe some of the points above are unimportant (discuss!) but it would be a worthwhile exercise finding out. Any medical students in need of a project??? Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Giguere" To: Sent: 26 March 2001 18:36 Subject: RE: the flying leap point. > Hey Paul, > > I can't argue it anymore. Has that play always > been around with indoors? I've always been outdoors > for the most part so perhaps that's my problem. > Too used to the big end zone where this stuff isn't > needed. > Thankfully it's outdoor season again so I've got > til next winter to figure out how to defend > against this crouching tiger offence without resorting > to a flailing kangaroo defence. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Waite [mailto:voodoo_1978@yahoo.co.uk] > > Sent: 26 March 2001 17:24 > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > Subject: re: the flying leap point. > > > > > > Stephen, > > > > This is the first time I have written to britdisc - > > but i've made an exception in this case. > > The intention of most players who do this are aiming > > for the gaps not the opponents. > > In majority of cases the people that get hit during > > this play are the people without the spirit, since in > > most cases they are trying to impead the offensive > > players progress into the endzone by stepping across > > creating a forceout. > > I don't like it when fellow frisbee players get > > injured, but I don't feel that one of the few options > > against this defence should be stopped just because of > > the unco-ordinated people that can't tell the > > difference between a gap and a person. > > > > > > > > Voodoo. > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Mon Mar 26 22:35:07 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2QLYJq27480 for britdisc-outgoing; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:34:19 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QLYHx27472 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:34:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp4.ihug.co.nz (smtp4.ihug.co.nz [203.109.252.5]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2QLYFL11769 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:34:15 +0100 (BST) Received: from NEPTUNE (p59-max1.akl.ihugbusiness.co.nz [203.109.227.59]) by smtp4.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id JAA20847 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:34:03 +1200 X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p59-max1.akl.ihugbusiness.co.nz [203.109.227.59] claimed to be NEPTUNE Message-ID: <00a501c0b63d$352d37b0$0e00000a@NEPTUNE> Reply-To: "Neil Cooper" From: "Neil Cooper" To: References: <6D293A121957D4119899009027FCB5DE18C73B@bluews.com> <00e201c0b637$75fc4f20$3504883e@ben> Subject: Re: the flying leap point. Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:39:03 +1200 Organization: Reveal Ltd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Indoor zone defence in New Zealand is even more dull (is that possible ??) than zone defence in the UK. Yes they do use the basketball key which means that nearly all points are scored through the 'flying leap'. It gets to the stage where it;s an indoor version of hotbox. Don't do it, or more to the point - get outdoors..... blah blah blah .... Coops. (x Headrush 14), in NZ and now with a mini-cooper who's not quite throwing sidearms yet, but the hammers are coming along after 3 months. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ben Ravilious To: BRITDISC Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2001 08:55 Subject: Re: the flying leap point. > Probably of more importance is the whole issue of using the walls as > boundaries indoors. > > In the last couple of years we have had two cases which have become > litigious with players sustaining bad injuries through hitting the wall > and/or other objects in the hall. > > I think the time may be approaching when we need to audit our injuries and > see if there are any measures we could take to reduce them. Not using the > walls as boundaries is an obvious one. Others maybe worth considering > (thanks to Paul Marfleet for recent help with safety ideas) :- > > 1. Stopping people leaving their bags near the sideline. > > 2. Using the basketball 'key' as the endzone instead of the last few metres > of the court. Apparently this works perfectly well in New Zealand (?). The > emphasis would be on jumping into the endzone rather than dangerous jumps > towards the side walls. Suppose it doesn't really solve the 'flying leap' > issue though. > > 3. Keeping the floor clean (some TD's already do this) > > 4. Stopping anyone from playing whilst drunk. People become less aware, less > cautious and more oblivious to pain and danger when they're pissed. We've > all done it and it can seem a laugh until it goes wrong. > > Basically its all about cutting down risks. Maybe some of the points above > are unimportant (discuss!) but it would be a worthwhile exercise finding > out. > > Any medical students in need of a project??? > > Ben > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Giguere" > To: > Sent: 26 March 2001 18:36 > Subject: RE: the flying leap point. > > > > Hey Paul, > > > > I can't argue it anymore. Has that play always > > been around with indoors? I've always been outdoors > > for the most part so perhaps that's my problem. > > Too used to the big end zone where this stuff isn't > > needed. > > Thankfully it's outdoor season again so I've got > > til next winter to figure out how to defend > > against this crouching tiger offence without resorting > > to a flailing kangaroo defence. > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Paul Waite [mailto:voodoo_1978@yahoo.co.uk] > > > Sent: 26 March 2001 17:24 > > > To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk > > > Subject: re: the flying leap point. > > > > > > > > > Stephen, > > > > > > This is the first time I have written to britdisc - > > > but i've made an exception in this case. > > > The intention of most players who do this are aiming > > > for the gaps not the opponents. > > > In majority of cases the people that get hit during > > > this play are the people without the spirit, since in > > > most cases they are trying to impead the offensive > > > players progress into the endzone by stepping across > > > creating a forceout. > > > I don't like it when fellow frisbee players get > > > injured, but I don't feel that one of the few options > > > against this defence should be stopped just because of > > > the unco-ordinated people that can't tell the > > > difference between a gap and a person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Voodoo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > > > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > > > > From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 01:16:38 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2R0Cpb15830 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:12:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R0Cnx15812 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:12:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from NS18.ThamesWater.Co.Uk (mailhost2.thameswater.co.uk [195.153.0.210]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R0Cmg01936 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:12:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: Peter Cotton is out of the office until Monday 2 April From: Peter.Cotton@thameswater.co.uk To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:01:42 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NS18/Gway/ThamesWater(Release 5.0.2c (Intl)|2 February 2000) at 27/03/2001 01:07:16 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2R0Cnx15816 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I will be out of the office starting 26/03/2001 and will not return until 02/04/2001. 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For more information on Thames Water visit our web site at www.thames-water.com From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 03:35:46 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2R2Y9615540 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:34:09 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R2Y8x15527 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:34:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f226.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.226]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R2Y6g07135 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:34:07 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:34:00 -0800 Received: from 212.126.144.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:34:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.126.144.12] Reply-To: cheesy@iname.com From: "Chris Hutchinson" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Keeping the sidelines sacred Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:34:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2001 02:34:00.0659 (UTC) FILETIME=[61972A30:01C0B666] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk
Just an observation over the weekend, but there were lots of people sitting in the sidelines of the main hall (as is the case in many indoor tournaments) and I think this is a practice that we might have to reconsider for a number of reasons:
 
1. There were a number of occasions when players were involved in collisions with those on the sidelines when their play overran the edge of the pitch. I don't think there was any injury caused in the occasions that I whitnessed but there is the possibility in the future. It can't be blamed on the player as they should not have to become less comitted to a catch/D/or whatever, just because they are near the edge of the pitch.
 
2. People stood on the sideline can obstruct vision of the pitch and stop rollcurves etc
 
3. It can make it confusing for observers to see what's going on.
 
4. It looks messy, especially as this tournament was being filmed.
 
5. People also choose to throw discs around etc on the edge of the pitch and on a number of occasions these discs rolled onto the pitch sometimes stalling play completely. On one occassion a disk made it onto the pitch 3 times in quick sucession. It was frustrating for the players and the observers and again looked unprofessional to the cameras.
 
In some tournaments where there is no proper seating available, this might be understandable but as there was spectator seating available to the teams, don't we think it would be better to use this?
 
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From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 09:14:50 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2R8BOI04036 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:24 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R8BLx03984 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from pump3.york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2R8BKL21094 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailer.york.ac.uk (mailer.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.96]) by pump3.york.ac.uk (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f2R8BCq17486 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:11:12 +0100 (BST) From: Catherine Walker To: britdisc Subject: RE: The flying leap point In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > As for your point, the typical scenario is... > O player sees gap, runs and jumps looking to handler > for the pass, lands in the zone. Point. > If the hole was still there because it was a > big enough gap then good, the handler could have > led the pass into the end zone for the running > player and not the leaping player. > Not really, cos a person can fit through a gap that a disc would be D'd if it went through, and a running person will still take up the same amount of space as a jumping person when going through the zone D. The point is that the disc was caught outside the zone, and as defenders are there to D against the disc, the it follows that they were essentially inthe wrong place cos it is now too late as the O team has caught the disc and as the rules state that it is where the first foot touches the ground that deems whether a catch is in or out then as long as they are in the zone they've got the point. You would have to change the rules to "where the disc was caught" but this would be very difficult to judge due to the speed of the game. I agree that it does hurt when bashed into by other players, and as a non contact sport we do have an awful lot of injuries between us. I haven't reasearched the point particulalry but I would guess that if you compared the number of injuries caused by that play compared to just running around the pitch in normal play, eg sprained ankles when going up against people for a high disc, collisions in general ( I broke my hand cos the guy I was marking collided with someone else and fell back on me and I was out of action for ages), it happens and we all expect it at some point. Nobody is out to be particularly rough on purpose, if we wanted to play a contact sport then we would be playing American football or rugby, but most sports are dangerous and accidents will happen. As a girl (and a rather little one at that) I use being little to my advantage when I can and I've learnt to move out of the way pretty quick when I see someone flying through the air in my direction I think it's fine as a play, no more no less dangerous that anything else and it counters that particular zone. Catherine Frizzly Bears (Germany, but coming home to play good British ultimate soon) From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 11:22:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2RAKZI03573 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:20:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2RAKXx03542 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:20:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from web10007.mail.yahoo.com (web10007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.43]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2RAKRg09632 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:20:27 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <20010327102022.19320.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [194.82.103.36] by web10007.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:20:22 PST Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bryce Subject: Mountain Bike Ultimate To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Cc: sneeekys@egroups.com, ro-sham-bo@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi Britdiscers, If you've had enough of flying leap endzone play, come play Britain's first game on Mouintain Bike Ultimate. Its hard to bunnyhop your bike while riding no-hands to get a high catch. Sunday, 1st of april (yes I know its April Fools Day but we will really be there) on the Meadows, Edinburgh, (its a field in a town near Glasgow) at 2pm. The rules: -no pedalling while in posession of the frisbee -no ground contact other than that of your tyres whilst picking up the frisbee from the ground -no aero wheels with only four spokes, someone might lose an arm -no lycra -wear a helmet (and body armour if you've any sense) If it's crap weather then don't expect too much, but I'll be there in anything nicer than a drizzle. See you there Bryce Far Flung, Ultimate at Glasgow University __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 12:04:56 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2RB3RV23913 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@daffodil [137.205.192.30]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2RB3Px23891 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from mailhost.spencerstuart.com (10.spencerstuart.enterconnect.net [216.80.20.106]) by daffodil.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f2RB3JL08956 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from 10.51.1.50 by mailhost.spencerstuart.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:05:12 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Received: by eurmailhub.spencerstuart.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:03:28 +0100 Message-ID: <1CE8BED757A5D411B85F0002B30806B704F2AD@frantapp01.spencerstuart.com> From: "Ziants, Wayne" To: "'Britdisc'" Subject: Indoor injuries Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:01:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk id f2RB3Qx23898 Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Ben, Something else for your injury audit? from the BBC website today http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1243000/1243545.stm Trainers with air pockets in their soles could be leading to sports injuries, research suggests. The study, published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine, found that basketball players wearing this type of footwear were four times more likely to suffer ankle injuries. ....[more, worth a look IMHO] Cheers Wayne Germany -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ravilious [mailto:ben@ravilious.net] Sent: Montag, 26. März 2001 22:56 To: BRITDISC Subject: Re: the flying leap point. Probably of more importance is the whole issue of using the walls as boundaries indoors. In the last couple of years we have had two cases which have become litigious with players sustaining bad injuries through hitting the wall and/or other objects in the hall. I think the time may be approaching when we need to audit our injuries and see if there are any measures we could take to reduce them. Not using the walls as boundaries is an obvious one. Others maybe worth considering (thanks to Paul Marfleet for recent help with safety ideas) :- 1. Stopping people leaving their bags near the sideline. 2. Using the basketball 'key' as the endzone instead of the last few metres of the court. Apparently this works perfectly well in New Zealand (?). The emphasis would be on jumping into the endzone rather than dangerous jumps towards the side walls. Suppose it doesn't really solve the 'flying leap' issue though. 3. Keeping the floor clean (some TD's already do this) 4. Stopping anyone from playing whilst drunk. People become less aware, less cautious and more oblivious to pain and danger when they're pissed. We've all done it and it can seem a laugh until it goes wrong. Basically its all about cutting down risks. Maybe some of the points above are unimportant (discuss!) but it would be a worthwhile exercise finding out. Any medical students in need of a project??? Ben From britdisc-owner@csv.warwick.ac.uk Tue Mar 27 17:54:11 2001 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f2RGoda14120 for britdisc-outgoing; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:50:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (root@snowdrop [137.205.192.31]) by pansy.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2RGocx14094 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:50:38 +0100 (BST) Received: from hotmail.com (f179.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.179]) by snowdrop.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2RGo6g03951 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:50:06 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:49:54 -0800 Received: from 212.59.97.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:49:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.59.97.12] From: "Tom Styles / Martin Cross (Block Stack)" To: britdisc@csv.warwick.ac.uk Subject: Video of Nationals Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:49:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2001 16:49:54.0967 (UTC) FILETIME=[F324B270:01C0B6DD] Sender: owner-britdisc@warwick.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear All, For those of you who were at Nationals this weekend you may have noticed a bunch of guys running round the place all weekend with cameras. Well, Block Stack Productions are part of the Block Stack and Two Smoking Hammers Ultimate team and we are working to raise the profile of our sport. This weekend we shot 6 hours of video from the tournament from three camera positions with live commentary. Over the next week we will produce a tape (around 3 hrs) of the best moments, cut with music and graphics. Thank you to everyone who ordered a copy of the tape at the tournament and for your support. For those of you who weren't in Cheltenham at the weekend but would like to see what went on, the tape is available for a mere ten pounds! The tape would also make a very useful training aid, and the ideal tool for recruitment at freshers fair etc. If you would like a copy, please send a cheque to:- Block Stack Productions c/o Tom Styles, 151b Main Street, Woodborough, Nottingham, NG14 6DD For more details please check out www.blockstack.co.uk The tapes should be ready in two to three weeks. (Sorry it's not sooner, you know, full time jobs get in the way of Ultimate and all that!) Well played to all the teams at the weekend and congratulations to the Bandits for claiming yet another indoor trophy this year. Cheers Tom Styles and Martin Cross Block Stack Productions blockstack@hotmail.com www.blockstack.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.